JD on the Rocks Podcast

The Black Phone + Linkin Park's New Era

JD on the Rocks Season 1 Episode 19

Have you ever wondered how a band can carry on when its iconic frontman is no longer with them? Join us for a heartfelt exploration of Linkin Park's evolution, as we recount our unforgettable night seeing them live, with Emily Armstrong stepping in for Chester Bennington. Her incredible talent shines through despite facing some unfair backlash, and we’re certain Chester would cheer for this new chapter. Dive into a spirited discussion on the band’s new single "Heavy as a Crown," a milestone that even tops the charts in ways you wouldn't expect. Plus, our own adventures at London's O2 Arena add an extra layer of excitement, from the impressive amenities to a quirky tale involving dental floss that you won't want to miss.

On top of music tales, we’re also celebrating a milestone of our own—a streak of consistent podcast episodes, now sounding crisper than ever thanks to our new mic mufflers. Curious about how these upgrades impact your listening experience? We've noticed a big change, and we're eager for your feedback. As we share our struggles of juggling work, farming, and parenting under relentless weather conditions, we invite you into our world of candid chats and personal storytelling, promising an episode packed with passion, humor, and a little bit of rock 'n' roll magic.

We then dive into the Film of the week :2022's The Black Phone, whilst rounding out the episode with some Halloween Trivia and a small feature with our first guest !!

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Speaker 1:

we're back, we are back.

Speaker 2:

Three weeks in a row, smashing it what?

Speaker 1:

more could you ask for? Honestly, do you know what I mean? We're back, better than ever.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm loving it. Don't know why I'm saying we're back, because we were back last weekend, but the weekend before that.

Speaker 1:

Listen, we're going to keep being back until this becomes a constant thing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah. How's your week been? Wow, what an exciting week it's been for me, has it? No, I've just worked, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, fair enough yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah same here. Yeah same here.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's just been work and fatherhood. Yeah, nothing's really changed. Boring Right, listen here, you little shit.

Speaker 2:

Don't swear at me.

Speaker 1:

I will. This is a PG channel now.

Speaker 2:

No, yeah, no, yeah. Curse words, don't swear at me, I will.

Speaker 1:

This is a PG channel. Now this no, yeah, no, yeah, curse words are allowed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, alright, maybe not the C word that's a bit, that's a bit sharp, or the N word, or probably the R, the R word as well yeah, yeah, unless we're specifying it's a movie, yeah thing, but we stay away from those ones.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but yeah, yeah, movie thing, but we stay away from those ones.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but yeah, yeah, you've been. I was going to say something that's gone up my head.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, nothing. Anything interesting happen at work this week?

Speaker 2:

No, it just rained.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it rained. It has not stopped.

Speaker 2:

It literally rained heavy this week yeah, we should have drilled our winter barley now, mm-hmm, and we've not even started preparing the fields for it. We should be about to start drilling some wheat. That isn't looking likely for a few weeks.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, it's only probably your job, is it?

Speaker 2:

It's very weather reliant, yeah, drilling if anyone doesn't know, is planting a seed in the ground. We call it drilling. As a farmer, farmer.

Speaker 1:

Anchor butter Yarp Yarp.

Speaker 2:

Yarp, yeah, apart from that, no, not done much apart from I went down to London, you did. We briefly talked about it last episode.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's touch on it a bit more Because, yeah, we barely spoke about it last one. Yeah, you went to see.

Speaker 2:

I saw my childhood band yeah, which I Do you know. If you'd have told me two months ago that on September 24th you were going to go and see Linkin Park live, I'd have told you. You're absolutely mental yeah turns out. I went and saw them, I see them. Yeah, like it still. It still freaks me out that.

Speaker 1:

I've seen them. It is wild, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

crazy.

Speaker 1:

It really is crazy yeah seeing, seeing especially something from your childhood yeah, something that I've known literally for all my life yeah, yeah, like I remember, like I remember the first time I ever saw john cena wrestle. Yeah, he's my childhood hero. Yeah, apart from my dad, love you dad but, yeah, the first time I saw him wrestle it was like it was like surreal. He's, like, he's here, yeah, like oh my god, he's actually in the same vicinity as me it's absolutely crazy.

Speaker 2:

Crazy really is obviously no, chester, if you don't know that by now, grow up. I feel like. I feel like you're not even.

Speaker 1:

You don't even have to be a fan of that music to know about that that was a.

Speaker 2:

Emily Armstrong has now taken the reins from Chester yeah doing.

Speaker 1:

Taking the reins from Chester? Yeah, doing a good job, from what I'm hearing as well.

Speaker 2:

Honestly, I don't want to be riding on her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But she does not deserve the hate that she's getting. Yeah, the hate she's getting is completely uncalled for and I hate to say it and we might get some backlash from me saying this people are treating Chester like he was a god. He was holy.

Speaker 2:

He was a man and, let's be honest, he probably would have loved the fact that they've got Emily now singing for them. I don't think he'd want them to. It's a typical thing of people saying he'd want you to be happy. I genuinely think he would be happy with the fact that they are finally able to move on 100%.

Speaker 1:

I'm not even a Linkin Park fan, but I've seen some clips of them live recently and her screaming is it's not Chester and it will never be Chester, but it's pretty damn good and it's, I rate, highly as a singer, to be honest the new single was also released the same day.

Speaker 2:

I saw them in London yeah. Heavy as a Crown. If no one's listened to that yet, please go and do yourself the justice and go and watch it. Listen to it and watch the music video, because it is actually the theme song of the World Series of League of Legends this year oh nice yeah, and they've got an animated video for it and the band's all animated.

Speaker 1:

Oh nice, that's a good little thing for them actually. Yeah, that's quite cool.

Speaker 2:

I think, if I'm not mistaken, it's about to hit, or already has hit, 50 million views on YouTube.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Which is absolutely incredible.

Speaker 1:

That is mad the Emptiness.

Speaker 2:

Machine, the song that they came back with a month ago. Last time I checked on Spotify had I think it was 120 million streams already bloody hell.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's really good that emptiness machine is their first ever UK number one yeah bloody hell wait like first ever first ever with first ever with Chester were they never number one with Chester?

Speaker 2:

no, no, no, never, not even with the Jay-Z club. No, sorry, sorry, I got that wrong why they didn't get number one. Yeah, this is their first ever UK top ten ever for them really, since they started since they started, even with Chester, they'd never got number one in the UK.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that shocks me as well, because we've got a big metal scene.

Speaker 2:

They came back and, yeah, the first week they hit got number one. Sorry, I keep screwing that up. They got a top ten, I think. If I'm not mistaken, the highest they got was number four.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Bloody hell, which is still amazing. That's actually quite buffing.

Speaker 2:

They beat a lot of Sabrina Carpenter songs.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, yeah, Good, I mean, yeah, yeah. That's the problem. The problem with hers is that the radio is killing it for me they just keep playing like please, please, please and espresso and stuff, and I'm like.

Speaker 2:

I'm just sick of hearing it. I'm not going to lie, I find her music boring.

Speaker 1:

It's truthful, yeah well, she was a supporter for Taylor Swift, so it's that kind of you know girl, girl music for girls cult cult.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, the Swifties. First time being in London for a show, technically because I've seen Lamb of God at Wembley, but I wouldn't really class that as London.

Speaker 1:

It was Wembley's kind of outside London, just outside London. Yeah, this was.

Speaker 2:

O2 is literally smack bang in the middle yeah, central London yeah wow, what a venue. Yeah, have you ever been to the O2?

Speaker 1:

I have been to the O2 not in the main stage, though. I went there years and years ago with my dad. I think we went there to watch a pantomime that right, the British, the British presenter guy who did the show about dogs.

Speaker 2:

He was in it Paul O'Grady, paul O'Grady, yeah, paul.

Speaker 1:

O'Grady was in it as the.

Speaker 2:

Was that the drag show? Because, he used to do Paul O'Grady like drag.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, the character he was was in drag, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

What a venue the O2 is. It's literally like a city inside of a tent. Yeah, yeah, like a city inside of a tent.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, they've got hundreds put it on hundreds but dozens of restaurants, yeah, I do remember that, I do remember. I do remember seeing. I do remember seeing, um, when we walk around the edge and there was loads of uh, there was, there was loads. I think there were weather spoons in there. Sorry, I'm getting a bit off track. We might have to just pause very quickly.

Speaker 2:

We will pause and if this pisses up, then you will hear this.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there we go, there we go. Right, we're back. Apologies for that. My other half just came in with a dilemma. She had dental floss stuck in her teeth which I've just had to like wrench out of her mouth.

Speaker 2:

So that's hilarious, yeah that's a funny moment. Chat clip that yeah, if only we had video oh yeah, I'll cut to the camera.

Speaker 1:

That'd be great for the talk, wouldn't it?

Speaker 2:

yeah, where were we O2?

Speaker 1:

O2 yes yeah, sorry, I was kind of losing track there because I had a message off the same show.

Speaker 2:

I've lost it yeah, it was incredible venue.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, ot was fantastic, my dad never won definitely go back. My dad never won. He's done the walk over the top really, yeah. Yeah, it's not a chance in hell you get me up there as a 6 foot 10 man you could not pay me.

Speaker 2:

You could not pay me unless you want to sponsor us.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, if you want to sponsor us, I'll do it. Yeah, that'd be a good YouTube video. John, you've got a spider in your house sorry, I'm just taking one hail up yeah it's too much wrench and a dental floss on my neck yeah, the O2, it's got everything I didn't realise.

Speaker 2:

It had a boom bar battle bar. It had it had a boom bar battle bar. It had a casino, bloody hell.

Speaker 1:

I forget how big it is.

Speaker 2:

I forgot what the arcade is. I forgot what it's called.

Speaker 1:

Is it called now? I'm just spitballing here, Is it called the arcade? No, Okay, right. Well, I'm shit out of luck.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, no, I got there after a nice two and a half hour drive, parked up, yeah, went over, and I saw Linkin Park on their Instagram earlier put a story out saying we're releasing 500 early entrant wristbands.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But you have to have Linkin Park passport, linkin Park underground passport plus, which is like their version of a Patreon, it's like a it all goes to the creator, sort of thing yeah, yeah and I thought, well, I have that.

Speaker 2:

But it was like five, six hours after they put it up so I thought, well, there's probably not any chance of me doing it. And then my dad I was on the phone with my dad and he went just, just just go and have a look, just go and have a look. So I went over and, yeah, somehow, by everything that was holy, I've got, I've get one, I've managed to get one nice and yeah, got in, was able to get front row yeah, I mean, that is literally.

Speaker 1:

I know people who want to be front row, get front row when they do shit like that, but it's like it's a lot more standing, yeah, which I am not for yeah, I'm a pit guy, not a front row guy.

Speaker 2:

I used to be a front row guy yeah. I wasn't even planning to get front row for this one, yeah it just happened childhood band man, you got it but in my next upcoming shows. It's pitting.

Speaker 1:

I'm going mental at the pit 100% yeah while she sleeps a slipknot yeah, I would have to pit a slipknot. Yeah, yeah, I would have to pit to Slipknot. Yeah, I'd pit to anyone old. Yeah, old school Like Slayer. Yeah, I'd pit.

Speaker 2:

Slayer, they've come back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, grandson was opening for them.

Speaker 1:

Mm.

Speaker 2:

Not my type of band.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 2:

If you listen to this, if you ever hear this, I apologise, but you do have a really annoying American accent.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Really whiny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's typical LA.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it turns out their last song I actually have heard before.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's called Blood in the Water. Yeah, you'll know it, uh-huh.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't ring a bell.

Speaker 2:

Lamb to the slaughter, slaughter. What you gonna do when there's blood in the water?

Speaker 1:

Oh no, that rings a bell yeah.

Speaker 2:

That was them, which I had no idea it was. But I was like, oh my god, I know this. I literally sang the lyrics. I went I know this song.

Speaker 1:

See, that's what I like about gigs when you don't know the supports, because you actually like you either find a gem or you actually like. You. Either find a gem or you're like oh my god, I've been listening to you for like 10 years and I didn't know it was you, the entire set.

Speaker 2:

I had no idea who they were until they went bloody water and I was like oh this sounds sick yeah then he sang it and I went I know this one yeah, yeah that song actually was pretty sick, not gonna lie, I'm not just saying this I've never heard a crowd that loud yeah, never heard a crowd that loud, literally Mr Mr Johan, yeah, the DJ, he went up first and the entire place.

Speaker 2:

You could hear the echo from everyone at the top yeah, it just went, wah yeah, and then when Mike and Emily came on, it was even louder, and then they started off with Somewhere I Belong and it almost felt like a blur after that just crazy magical literally magical. Never thought I'd hear, well, I never thought I'd hear any of the songs live, but hearing New new divide live was amazing. Yeah, um and numb. But the encore version with jay-z I never thought I'd hit live.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, that's yeah that I actually do like that one um, I like the video where jay-z's doing it with him live. Yeah, he does the how long is the scream? I think it's like eight seconds. Isn't there something like the eight second?

Speaker 2:

scream or something, and he's like and even j the scream, I think it's like 8 seconds. Is it something like the 8?

Speaker 1:

second scream or something and he's like even Jay-Z turns to him afterwards and he's like got this face like oh ok, fair play yeah, yeah and then, yeah, they debuted.

Speaker 2:

No, they didn't debut, they debuted it in Germany, but that was the first night that Heavy is the Crown was officially released and, uh, let's just say she does, she does a.

Speaker 1:

I think it was a 16 second long scream in that song oh nice she can do it live yeah, yeah she, she does sometimes struggles with chester screams yeah, no one else, no one ever be able to copy a different vocal style.

Speaker 2:

Yes, 100 um but 100%, but yeah, she can do her stuff amazingly well, yeah, so yeah, they're meant to be coming back next year and I will be fighting for a ticket again. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And I'm also anyone watching this coming back in a month's time. I am predicting that Linkin Park is going to head. Want to be one of. If I don't like stumble over my words, I'll say yeah. I'm predicting that Linkin Park will headline one of the nights.

Speaker 2:

A download oh yeah, oh yeah, they've got to innit if it's not this year, it's got to be next year yeah, if like, if like Metallica or Slipknot Aren't doing a download they're there, they're up top. I've got a feeling Slipknot's Going to be there again.

Speaker 1:

I think they are.

Speaker 2:

I know they did it last year, but Because they're doing the 25th anniversary Of their first album, it's kind of like you can just see them being there again.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I swear to god, though, if I see Sleep Token as a headliner, I will never go again.

Speaker 1:

I like one of their songs.

Speaker 2:

They're an acquired taste, I must admit that was the highlight of my month, probably year, to be honest. Yeah, I don't really know if there's anything else I can say without nerding out about the set list.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I did just think there is. I know I said I had a boring week at work, but it has been a productive week for the pod because we have got an equipment upgrade.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we've got mic mufflers, so if it sounds a bit weird, yeah if we sound hella different and if you don't like it, please let us know, because we'll take that into consideration If we get two people saying they don't like it, then we'll whip them off.

Speaker 1:

Maybe try a different brand if that brand doesn't work because it's from Amazon.

Speaker 2:

These are it feels like we're professional now it feels better. It's a tiny little change, yeah but it feels like a big change.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I don't have to.

Speaker 2:

This is a bit behind the scenes right now, just quickly. I am watching the meter. Oh, like the volume bar, the volume meter at the bar, and it is rarely going up to the red, whereas before it was always going up to the red If the mic came too close.

Speaker 1:

that was it.

Speaker 2:

Right now we're not even close to the red.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so yeah, we got a little great, Slowly but surely. Headphones.

Speaker 2:

I think are next. Headphones, I think are next. Headphones are next. Yeah, Whichever adapter we need, because we still haven't figured that one out, I'm going to try and maybe get some music. Yeah, Maybe an intro made.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, 100%, yeah, that'll be good.

Speaker 2:

Don't know how you go about doing that, but Not as close.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely not, scooby. No, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 2:

Maybe in like ten years' time we'll get a Get a video.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I don't. Are we all caught up? I believe that is. I just stole that from Jack mate.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yes, I believe we are. Yeah, I believe that is the main catch-up.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Right, then should we go into this week's topic.

Speaker 1:

This week's topic. Film of the week Film of the week is as we are in october. We're doing spooky spooky horror month thriller, horror thriller month. We are in spooky season, yeah, so it's going to be very horror thriller based.

Speaker 2:

Who's going to introduce these films? Is it going to be you or me?

Speaker 1:

oh, go on, then, I'll do.

Speaker 2:

It, okay, go on then so this week's film, film of the week out on netflix. It is leaving at the beginning of November, so get on watching it.

Speaker 1:

Get on it.

Speaker 2:

Is 2021. Sorry, 2021's, that's better. The Black Phone.

Speaker 1:

Yes.

Speaker 2:

Produced by Blumhouse Productions.

Speaker 1:

Blumhouse, Everything. What a legacy.

Speaker 2:

Blumhouse, blumhouse, is it Blum or Blum, blum isn't it?

Speaker 1:

We both said different, is it Blumhouse do? What a legacy Blumhouse do.

Speaker 2:

Is it Blum or Blum?

Speaker 3:

Blum isn't it? We both said different. Is it Blum?

Speaker 1:

It's B-L-U-M.

Speaker 3:

House, isn't it? I think it's.

Speaker 1:

Blumhouse yeah. Everything they do is absolutely phenomenal. What a legacy they have Honestly I did have it somewhere.

Speaker 2:

I've just lost it. Had a little bit of a Blumhouse fa. It came up with quite a few of the sorry, just give me literally two seconds.

Speaker 1:

Jeremy, talk about something. Well, for anyone who hasn't heard of the black foam, it is a horror mystery crime thriller, I'd say yeah, which, in my opinion, two genres that just go hand in hand, yes, mystery and scared.

Speaker 2:

I say if you're looking for a scary film, this is not the film for you. This is not a scary film.

Speaker 1:

If you want jump scares and your typical poltergeisty stuff or anything like that, it's not for you it's not. It's more, it is like a crime film almost, because you are trying to work out yeah, you're trying to work out yourself as it's going along yeah, I do want to point out that there will be spoilers ahead for anyone who hasn't seen this film and does want to watch it. So if you haven't, seen the film please pause the part. Watch the film, come back.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you've got Blumhouse yes, I've got the rankings of the highest to the lowest. Ok on on IMDB. Yep, I'm not gonna. I'm just gonna name them. I'm not gonna worry about rankings. Mhm, erm, get Out solid film.

Speaker 1:

Loved it. Split good film.

Speaker 2:

Speak no Evil. Brand new film.

Speaker 1:

Yep, not seen it yet, can't comment on that one, the Invisible man. Good film. Speak no Evil.

Speaker 2:

Brand new film. Yep Not seen it yet, can't comment on that one. The Invisible man.

Speaker 1:

Good film.

Speaker 2:

The Black Phone.

Speaker 1:

Good film.

Speaker 2:

Insidious. Brilliant film Sinister. Brilliant film Glass. Good, happy Death Day. Okay, halloween. Iconic. Insidious, chapter 2. Obviously, you didn't see this.

Speaker 1:

Brilliant Creep 2. Oh the.

Speaker 2:

Creeps were brilliant films, One of my I think this is probably my favourite one out of the series the Purge Anarchy.

Speaker 1:

Yes, purge, yeah, very good Did too, many of those in my opinion, but very good.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, paranormal Activity which I didn't actually know they did, oh, which I didn't actually know they did.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I didn't. I don't remember them doing that. Paranormal Activity number one, especially number one, is brilliant.

Speaker 2:

Ouija. Origin of Evil. Oh yeah, good yeah, the Bloodline as in, as in Robin Reigns? Oh, love it. No, I don't know what it is, I'm just seeing Paranormal Activity's one, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9.

Speaker 1:

The Purge, every Purge, Every Sinister.

Speaker 2:

Halloween Kills. So they've done all. Yeah, they would have done all the latest trilogy of Halloweens. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they would have done the re-dos, the re-dos, reboots.

Speaker 2:

I'm seeing it's jumping out Truth or Dare.

Speaker 1:

A lot of. I mean, they are horror.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

You think horror, you think Blumhouse.

Speaker 2:

Oh, they did also Another horror film that came out this year Night Swim.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that was okay. You know, that is another jump-scary one.

Speaker 2:

I forgot about that they were also doing the reboot of the Exorcist.

Speaker 1:

Oh, very good, yeah, the Exorcist.

Speaker 2:

Believer that came out last year. Yeah, they tanked that badly. The director left. Oh god, yeah, I don't think there's any others here that stand out. Ouija, yeah. Area 51.

Speaker 1:

That just sounds good.

Speaker 2:

Mockingbird, what, what? There's a film here that we've seen that they've done.

Speaker 1:

That we, oh okay, go on. Martyrs, martyrs, they did, martyrs they did Martyrs, they did Black Christmas. Great, in my opinion, the best You're going to hate this, Jamie.

Speaker 2:

Oh, go on. Black Christmas has the lowest score on. Imdb.

Speaker 1:

How it was iconic for its time. Yeah, late 70s, I believe. Early 80s. Yeah, are you? No, that believe? Early 80s? Yeah, are you? No, that's got to be wrong. No, it was 93. Wow, man, black Christmas is a fantastic film. We've got to do an episode about that, because that film is fantastic.

Speaker 2:

So yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what was that they did, what they were. Blumhouse were the they produced it.

Speaker 2:

Production, production, yeah Right, okay, which I think is the same as producing, isn't it?

Speaker 1:

Basically I'd think so yeah, yeah, but they're obviously. The Blumhouse film that we have today is the Black Phone. The Black Phone, yes. Directed by Scott Derrickson.

Speaker 2:

Scott Derrickson. I don't actually that name does not ring a bell.

Speaker 1:

I, I think I may have heard of him previously I think I may have seen his name mentioned had no idea he has got some iconic films under his belt.

Speaker 2:

He's Sinister right, yeah, the.

Speaker 1:

Exorcism of Emily Rose.

Speaker 2:

Deliver.

Speaker 1:

Us From Evil, that's good, yeah, he had. I believe he was involved in the production of both Doctor Strangers right.

Speaker 3:

I believe he was involved in the production of both Doctor Strangers Right.

Speaker 1:

Sinister 2, the Day that Earth Stood Still VHS 85, iconic.

Speaker 3:

And he will also be.

Speaker 1:

I'm assuming he will be coming back to direct but the Black Phone 2, the sequel next year.

Speaker 2:

Next year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, 25. I've never seen a way to see that. 100%, 100%.

Speaker 2:

Writers of this is Scott Derrickson.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Quite abnormal to have your director being one of your head writers as well. Joe Hill and C Robert Cargill Never heard of them two either. No, but if this is the stuff they do, then I'm interested.

Speaker 1:

I'm involved, I love them.

Speaker 2:

So some of the cast.

Speaker 1:

Oh, stacked.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, mason Thames plays Finney. Madeline McGrath played Gwen, the little sister. Yep, ethan Hawke was the grabber. I actually really like Ethan Hawke as an actor.

Speaker 1:

He is training day.

Speaker 2:

He was really good in Moon Knight.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That is the only Marvel thing that I liked after Endgame, and yeah it was.

Speaker 1:

He was really good. I've liked a few things, but there has been some. There has been some.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Shit houses since Marvel.

Speaker 2:

Terrence. The father was played by Jeremy Davis. Yeah, one of the detectives was played by E Roger Mitchell and the other one was by Troy. Oh God, rude Rudaseal. Max was played by James Ransom, robin was played by Miguel Mora, and the others are just.

Speaker 1:

There's a lot of. There's a lot of child actors in this which you probably. They probably don't look the same if you saw them there no. I literally.

Speaker 2:

I've looked at their little sister and it does not look like the same version.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I saw this film when it came out in 2021. Yeah, you watched it for the first time last night no, this morning. Oh sorry this morning yes, this morning it's literally been 14 hours, yeah, so it's fresh in your memory it's relatively fresh in mine, but I'll let you take the lead on the old plot.

Speaker 2:

I can't remember. This is going to be a very quick summary of it. It is a bunch of children started going missing. This is going to be a very quick summary of it. It is a bunch of children who started going missing in high school. I can't remember, was it Chicago?

Speaker 1:

I can't actually remember where it was set. No, I can't.

Speaker 2:

I don't think it's going to say in the description either.

Speaker 1:

No, I've just had a look and it doesn't. I've just seen a review. It got given.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it's I actually. I really liked whoever reviewed this. They reviewed it as claustrophobic, sinister and suspenseful. That's a solid review of that issue of film. You've got to love that. But yeah, ethan Hawke is. I've seen him in a lot of action films yeah and he's like he's good, but he played a sinister bastard in this a very sinister bastard.

Speaker 2:

He actually looked and seemed unhinged, yeah, like almost to the point where me personally, I wanted to, you know, I almost felt bad for him, like I wanted to know why he was messed up, like that yeah, yeah. And I don't think it alluded to it. But I think it might have also hinted at domestic abuse. Yeah. Because it was literally like it was the same as Finney's father was to him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

How he was treating him. So I don't know whether that's like a clever little hint, I don't know, erm, but yeah, yeah, so oh yeah, sorry I was doing the plot wasn't I?

Speaker 1:

yes, my brain.

Speaker 2:

The thing is we're getting distracted, we're trying to remember where it took place yeah, so yeah, a bunch of children are going missing whilst they're going through high school and Finney is getting bullied, and then he, he gets picked on in the bathroom. And then this kid, robin, walks in. Who's the brick shithouse at school? Yeah, no one messes with him. Yeah. And he said right, you guys are leaving Finney alone, otherwise I'm coming for you.

Speaker 2:

So they leave him alone. But the next day Robin's missing. So Finney gets attacked again. Blah blah, blah blah, and on the way home, he he gets grabbed by the grabber yeah. Ethan Hawke. And then he's, yeah, just kidnapped and kept in a basement. Kept in a basement trying to escape. But there's a. There's a phone on the wall. Funny enough, it's a black phone yeah, it's the black.

Speaker 1:

It's a black phone.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's the black phone it's just the black phone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the black phone, the, the black bloom, the blibblibb, exactly, and it, it, it.

Speaker 2:

You know almost instantly it shows you that the wire for the phone is cut.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So that phone don't work.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

But spoilers he gets phone calls in that film from dead people. Yeah, from the other dead children, the children before him that have been killed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, which I thought was mental.

Speaker 2:

Each one of them has a aspect of how he escapes. So one kid is like has a aspect of how he escapes. So one kid is like Dig a hole here. The other kid's like I've left A shoelace, whatever. It was A bit of wire, but I can't remember.

Speaker 1:

It was a bit of wire.

Speaker 2:

The other kid was like Teaching him how to box.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, to kill him. Yeah, essentially they, they all. They all kind of like Almost Not sacrificed All of their failures.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, essentially they all kind of like almost not sacrificed, but All of their failures Led to his success Led to his success. Yeah, yeah 100% yeah. Which I thought was really cool. And then, yeah, he has a fight with him.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Chucks him down the alley breaks his ankle.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And he strangles him and then he walks out as the detectives discover the bodies in the house across the road which they never alluded to. Yeah, I love that twist they were literally showing it as it was happening was the detectives were finding they were walking down the basement to find the bodies dug underneath the basement. But they were also showing it that Finney was walking up the stairs. He thought are they going to meet? They never meet and you go. Oh god, what's going on?

Speaker 2:

yeah turns out it was the house across the road which they never. They never showed. It's about the entire film, yeah they never showed the other house. Yeah, brilliant, absolutely amazing twist at the end brilliant.

Speaker 1:

Yes, fantastic twist. Yeah, I do remember from the first time I watched it. Yeah, um, obviously it's a fantastic twist. Yeah, I do remember from the first time I watched it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Obviously it's more fresh in your memory, so correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember quite a sinister. It was really a sinister scene where the grabber essentially left the basement door open.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And then the camera kind of comes out to him. Sat there on a chair and if your memory doesn't With a belt, with a man doesn't with a belt. He does have a belt, doesn't he? He has a belt and he's topless and yeah, he's topless with this belt and it's almost like it was so dark, because he's like enticing Finita to leave and he's just gonna probably kill him but it's the way he's sat there and he just his eyes are just locked in on the basement door and it's just so fucking sinister.

Speaker 2:

One of the gates, one of the ghosts, if I'm not mistaken, did say don't, don't like, do anything.

Speaker 1:

Don't leave.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because that's when he'll get you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

If you, what was it If he can't punish you if you're not a bad boy, or something like that?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you.

Speaker 2:

What was it If he can't punish you, if you're not a bad boy, or something like that? He said.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Which I'm not going to lie, he had that little rocket in his hand.

Speaker 1:

He literally could have gone up to him and sliced it in his neck, he could have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, he could have. Yeah, just the typhoon could have been averted.

Speaker 1:

As soon.

Speaker 2:

That's basically a very, very short, awful round up of the film. I've made it sound awful, but just go and listen to it. Go and listen to it, go and watch it. Really good, it's only an hour and 40, which is really nice that it's a shorter film compared to every other film nowadays it's over two and a half hours long it seems like.

Speaker 1:

it seems like they're getting longer and plus, if it's a film like where it's just a jump scare fest, you're looking at an hour and 20 minutes of just shitting yourself. Really yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm literally just looking at the storyline now on IMDb. Yes, and they've got taglines. The tagline's so funny for this Just never talk to strangers. Just never talk to strangers, I mean true Fair. You might already know this, because you might be looking at it right now, but what age do you think this is?

Speaker 1:

certified at 18. 15. Oh, okay, I did see someone online back in the day when it came out. Yeah, someone was saying like no younger audiences. Yeah, it can actually scar you a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Have you got anything else to add to the plot?

Speaker 1:

I'm just looking at the reviews, so the ratings for it. Imdb yeah, 6.9 out of 10. Reasonable yeah. Rotten Tomatoes, which are known to be very, very harsh yeah, 81% that's not bad which I actually think. Which are known to be very, very harsh 81%, which I actually think is not too bad.

Speaker 2:

I've heard a lot of shit about this film, people saying how bad it is. I actually really enjoy it. I didn't think it was bad at all.

Speaker 1:

I think it's the mystery. The mystery always entices me, man, like trying to figure it out while you're going.

Speaker 2:

But it also pisses me off that I don't know any of the lore behind it now yeah they just don't do it, which I'm hoping we might get seen in number two or, yeah, in the sequel. Completely different route in the sequel.

Speaker 1:

They might do just kind of a double thing in the sequel. They might do a prequel to his life, yeah, yeah. The one thing I would like to point out about the film, though, is he wears a very cool mask.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it's like a two part mask, yeah he can take the top off and he can take the bottom off yeah, because the iconic picture of him is the full mask.

Speaker 1:

It's the. He's got his glasses on because it's set back in the 80s. The 80s. He's got the big, thick, square, almost Jeffrey Dahmer type glasses and he's got the mask on underneath, where it's got the big grin with all the teeth showing. It's really sinister. And then he's wearing this black top hat and then just a fucking cool look, really fucking cool look.

Speaker 2:

And his straight hair curtain falling down each side really like it.

Speaker 1:

I've just seen another photo on Google yeah Of him wearing the top half of the mask with the horns.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think you know, he was a child kidnapper which is a crime. Yes, but I think a bigger crime is the white polo shirt with the suede brown shoulder pads and the suede brown trousers. Now I know it's the 80s, mate, but come on, what will it cost you people thinking because that is a crime to fashion. But yeah, yeah. So that's the ratings from the official yes website. Letterd gave it a 3.3 out of 5, which is over half, so it's good. What would you give it out of 10?

Speaker 2:

Ooh, should we do a JD on the Rocks reviews. Yes, we should, we should start a website where we just review films and literally our own version of Rotten Tomatoes.

Speaker 1:

Start a blog.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah we yeah, we do once a month yeah, yeah, same as this yeah, what would I rate it? Ooh, that's a good question. I think it deserves a good seven, seven and a half out of ten yeah, I was gonna go, I think seven.

Speaker 1:

I was gonna give it a solid seven.

Speaker 2:

I think, seven's fair. It's a defo watch yeah, it's an easy watch. I can go and watch it again right now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, and it was nice to see Ethan Hawke not playing a police officer. Yeah, do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

because he has got a I don't want to say he's been typecast yeah but he was almost typecast yeah, so are you going 7 out of 10 as well, I'd go 7 out of 10.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's a good start to Spooky Month, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, spooktober yeah.

Speaker 1:

For the JD on the Rocks podcast.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, scaretober.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oktoberfest.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you like a little trivia? Go on then. So do you remember one of the ghosts was a paperboy? Yeah Well, the paperboy is a reference to Johnny Gosch, a paper boy from Iowa who was on a route with his dog, gretchen, and disappeared. His dog was found later, but Johnny's disappearance remains unsolved to this day. Oh, okay, so there's a little callback there. Oh, so one of them was based off a real after his death right.

Speaker 1:

Oh, so one of them was based off a real life truth story. I like when films have elements of truth. It's quite good.

Speaker 2:

Right, just on the mask, because I know we pulled it up. Yep, the Grabber has several creepy masks throughout this film, each exposing different portions of his face.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

They were designed by legendary prosthetic makeup artist Tom Savini. Mason Thames said that the first time he saw the mask coupled with Ethan Hawke's bone-chilling performance, he was terrified. So, Finney, First time Finney saw it. Nice he was terrified Nice.

Speaker 1:

I love when the cast get actually scared. It gives elements of realness.

Speaker 2:

The Grabber is a clown in the short story, but Hill himself, one of the writers, suggested in a post-Steven King's it world they couldn't keep that and should instead switch him to a magician. Early drafts of the script also describe the mask as the leather ones with a smile or a frown. But Scott Derrickson, the director, knew they'd be the centrepiece of the film's marketing, so he spent a lot of time designing it.

Speaker 3:

So he was meant to be.

Speaker 2:

Do you remember when he grabs Finney, he was like I'm a magician. Do you want to see a magic trick?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do I remember having balloons? Yeah, you always had black balloons, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So, yeah, it's. Yeah, that's basically. He should have been a clown, but they didn't want to because it's too similar to it it's too similar to it and like you're going down the John Wayne Gacy side route there. Yeah that's a little cool little trivia. There's plenty of trivia, but this starts getting too long a paragraph and I'm not a good reader, so yeah but I think there was something else.

Speaker 1:

There should be.

Speaker 2:

A little goof.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2:

When Finney breaks down crying, his hair is soaking from sweating and exertion. Seconds later, when he is on the phone, his hair is dry.

Speaker 1:

Fair Little movie thing I didn't notice.

Speaker 2:

Little mistake.

Speaker 1:

Do you?

Speaker 2:

want a quote? Go on, this is from the little sister Jesus. What?

Speaker 1:

the fuck.

Speaker 2:

What a quote sums up the film perfectly this was the the first film to debut the new Blumhouse logo, featuring a zoom through a house filled with horror film references.

Speaker 1:

I know, I know the intro. Yeah, oh, okay, that's interesting erm. I'm just sitting, so it's I know. I know the intro, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's interesting. I'm just sitting, so it's 2021? Yeah, the film.

Speaker 1:

I can't believe it's been three years. I remember it like the hype coming out.

Speaker 2:

The release date on Google says 24th of June 22. I wonder if it was pushed back a year because of COVID?

Speaker 1:

Oh, maybe, yeah. Yeah, I forget, covid happened, you know.

Speaker 2:

It feels crazy that it's happened, doesn't? It yeah it's like we lost three years. I was going to say it feels mental that it's been three years since it's released. There's no way it's been three years, but just seeing how quick this year has gone, it wouldn't surprise me now actually. Yeah, yeah, I think it was 2022, though that rings more of a bell.

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't think it can't have been three years ago.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because it's still quite fresh in my head.

Speaker 2:

Would you like me to read you a quote, not a quote, sorry. A review.

Speaker 1:

Oh go on.

Speaker 2:

This person's given it a 7 out of 10, which is the same we did Nice Big words, twisted good. Big big words, twisted good, indeed well entertained. I was a fine cast and solid production takes us back to the late seventies.

Speaker 2:

I thought was a tease could have been like so nice and that blend of thriller with a good shot of supernatural horror made the black phone a nice entertaining trip. The cast is really good, especially the younger ones. To recommendended, if you like, such films as the Lovely Bones Split, chained House at the End of the Street and so on. Nice little review.

Speaker 1:

That's Lovely Bones. I can see where it gets it from Right the idea, because Lovely Bones is a brilliant film.

Speaker 2:

I've just scrolled down IMDB release date June 24th 2022. So it was 22, but if you, scroll up to the top, it does say 2021 yes, and maybe that was the intended release day.

Speaker 1:

Then I've just found something interesting from filmed in North Carolina. Oh no, I found them, so I went on Google yeah, views and I filtered it by one star.

Speaker 1:

These are some of the bad reviews people gave it. So the first one star review Horrible plot, horrible acting, horrible characters, some of them totally useless to the story, and not even a hint of suspense. And what's with Jeremy Davies character? No backstory as to why his character is such an abusive drunk, just yelling at him and beating his kids for being noisy or dreaming, never mind. He totally overacted in every scene did he watch? He has done he has done a big, big review did he watch the film?

Speaker 2:

it literally explains why he's abusive Because the mother of the children, his wife, committed suicide, so he's, you know, resulting to alcohol.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this review yeah, this is a one-star review. 11 months ago, from an account called Poo Poo, right, poo Poo gave it the review. If you're going to have a kid be the main character of a horror film, have him act like a kid in the horror film. No child would act the way he did in the situation he was put in.

Speaker 2:

I kind of agree with that.

Speaker 1:

yeah, I get it, but do people not understand the concept of a film. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, Like it's not real, Even movies that are based off true stories. It's based on a true story. It's not the true story yeah, how does?

Speaker 2:

There's so much negativity, some people just can't be pleased.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, there's so much negativity in people's lives I don't get it.

Speaker 2:

Would you like some box office stats?

Speaker 1:

Oh, go on, yes, budget what?

Speaker 2:

do you think the budget was?

Speaker 1:

I think the budget was 45 mil.

Speaker 2:

No, nowhere near.

Speaker 1:

Do I need to go higher or lower?

Speaker 2:

Half that at least 20?. Not half sorry, A little bit less A little bit less than 20?

Speaker 1:

17?.

Speaker 2:

Oh, a little bit more 18.5? 18 million.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

How much do you think it did on its opening weekend?

Speaker 1:

I want to say this actually did reasonably well. I don't know if it did as well as 18 million Right Opening weekend. I'm going 12.

Speaker 2:

See it's not giving me a proper thing because it's only done opening weekend for the US and Canada okay, yeah but for the opening weekend for US and Canada was 23 million not bad, 5 over, but gross gross worldwide. Sorry, yeah, I don't know why I just stopped talking. Yeah, gross worldwide was 161 million.

Speaker 1:

I see that's solid. Yeah, for an 18 mil budget, that's solid.

Speaker 2:

I'd take that 100% that is all from IMDb. I don't know if there's another sort of any other things I can click on yeah, I'm just looking at.

Speaker 1:

I'm just looking at the sequel. Yeah. So I don't know if it's rumoured or not, but the sequel is actually scheduled for release in 25, so I don't know what happened. Refresh my memory what happens to the grabber at the end of the first one dead? He gets killed. Yeah. So, freshman memory what happens to the grabber at the end of the first one Dead? He gets killed. Yeah. So do you reckon this is going to be kind of oh, do you reckon they're going to go the copycat route?

Speaker 2:

I was literally thinking. I think it's going to be copycat.

Speaker 1:

Oh, oh. Finny turns into the grabber from the trauma. Oh, that'd be a class plot line. Get me in the bloody director's chair.

Speaker 2:

So you know, you said you think it's. You don't know if it's been confirmed or not. Yeah Well, IMDb have got it up. Oh okay, Expected release date October 17th 2025. Same director, same writers and Ethan Hawke, Mason Thames, Madeline McGrath, Miguel Mora and Jeremy Davis will all reprise their roles yeah so how are they going to do that? So it's got to be.

Speaker 1:

They've got a prequel storyline, surely? Yeah, they're all coming back, so maybe, maybe they're doing it from, maybe they're going from talking about him kidnapping the first lot. How the black phone started the first call.

Speaker 2:

But why would they? Why would they go back? Because they've explained it all from there.

Speaker 1:

They have, but they could probably just show him kidnapping the other kids, because I wonder if after the first kid it happened to and then the second kid was kidnapped, did the phone ring for the second kid and it was the first kid talking to him.

Speaker 2:

I wonder this would just be me just trying to think to be different, if I was in that situation where I've got all the same actors coming back yeah. I'd do the same story, but change it. Okay, if you get what I'm saying, right, go on elaborate instead of grabbing the older brother. I'd do the same story but change it. Okay, if you get what I'm saying.

Speaker 1:

Right go on. Elaborate Instead of grabbing the older brother, grab the little sister.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what if? What if Robin?

Speaker 1:

was the one who escaped not Finny what if, if it was one of the other ones that escaped first. Yeah, interesting I think to me.

Speaker 2:

I just, I think someone like that just completely changed. You know, same plot, maybe not the same plot, maybe different, but if you're having the same access again, I think you've just got to do something like because it was supernatural, anyways, maybe maybe go complete different supernatural now or maybe go like a normal route I don't know I don't know how they're going to do it. To be honest, I think it'll be really interesting yeah to see, did the?

Speaker 1:

did the grubber know in the first one that the phone was going?

Speaker 2:

I'm, if you ever hear him talking I think, if I'm not mistaken, they said that none of the kids could hear the phone ring. One of the ghosts said all of us can't hear the phone ring, apart from you and the grabber. So I wonder if so that explains your bit earlier where they said, like if the second kid got kidnapped, could he hear the first one?

Speaker 1:

No, None of the kids could hear it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but Finny and the grabber. So I would like almost you can't really explain it got kidnapped could he hear the first one? No, none of the kids could hear it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but Finney and the grabber so I would like almost you can't really explain it, I'd like almost an explanation of why did it ring for Finney yeah, why did they all ring for him? Why was he so special that they all tried to?

Speaker 2:

help. Yeah, but his sister had powers and apparently so could the mum maybe she didn't kill herself maybe she was kidnapped and murdered yeah by the grabber taken for her powers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, makes sense. That'd be a good plot line that's my.

Speaker 2:

That's probably what they're gonna do. I can imagine actually thinking about it now yeah keep up the same acts and just have the mum come as someone yeah, it makes more sense, yeah maybe that's why Finny was targeted, because it was his mum.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, bloody hell. There's a lot to this film.

Speaker 2:

There is, isn't there? Yeah, there's a lot. It's a very simple film, but yeah, I feel like you can dive quite deep into it. I feel like I rambled on there for about three minutes dived quite deep into it.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I rambled on there for about three minutes. No, but it's interesting, man. I like the trivia stuff, I like the detail that goes into all the little things in it, Because, like someone would have gone like, oh we need, no, this part of the bed, this part of the mattress needs to look like this, Because it tells its own little thing. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 3:

Yes, I do, yeah, Like just the little details matter.

Speaker 1:

I think that's what I love about movies. Since I've become a bit of a movie buff, it's really. It's really I've noticed more. It's like really come to my attention, like just the little things.

Speaker 2:

Yep.

Speaker 1:

Do you know what I mean? Like, especially in like, especially in films with mad plot lines like Tenet, yeah, where it was like you were fighting the past future self of these people and you can rewind time, but it still happened. And all this stuff, yeah. But when you're watching it you're like ah okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, it's a. It's a really really good you know thing to. I don't know how to describe it. That's sounding rude, Like it's an easy watch, like it's something you could just chuck on yeah, that is almost.

Speaker 1:

It's a backhanded compliment that isn't it really?

Speaker 2:

yeah, yeah, I don't know what you all fancy doing now, if you want to do the thing we talked about or I've also got some Halloween trivia if you'd like that- we can hit up some Halloween trivia it's not really Halloween.

Speaker 1:

Halloween as in the film, or Halloween as in the season, the season, I don't understand how these are connected to Halloween, because I've been reading some of them some of them. I've got no idea because I know Trick or Treating was a concept we stole from the Americans how did early New Englanders protect their homes from evil spirits? With a basket of wheat.

Speaker 2:

Wrong, okay, by hiding their shoes in the walls.

Speaker 1:

What, what? You just whack a loafer in the fucking wall and it gets rid of a ghost. What do you mean?

Speaker 2:

What do you mean? What do you mean? What is the significance of bobbing for apples during Halloween?

Speaker 1:

Do you know what? I did this when I was a kid? Never got it. Is it something to do with a witch, or witches back then, or who they thought was?

Speaker 2:

Or kind of.

Speaker 1:

Right, okay, did you have to bob for the one fruit that goes rotten over time, or something like that?

Speaker 2:

No, it was originally a fortune telling game where it was believed that the first person to catch an apple would be the next to marry.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, weird.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

What vegetable was once thought to have supernatural powers on Halloween? Carrot cabbage fuck. Why would they think of some of this stuff?

Speaker 1:

they're absolutely mental old people pilgrims were.

Speaker 2:

They were fruity bro in 2023, travis Scott Ginger nabbed the Guinness World Record for the heaviest pumpkin. How much did it weigh? Oh god pounds.

Speaker 1:

It's in Gengar nabbed the Guinness World Record for the heaviest pumpkin. How much did it weigh? Oh God, it's in pounds, isn't it? Because it's American 140 pounds.

Speaker 2:

You realise that's like 55 kilograms.

Speaker 1:

I don't know the conversion.

Speaker 2:

It's around half.

Speaker 1:

Let me give it you. No, I'm going to have to give it you in pounds 310.

Speaker 2:

You're nowhere near 1,604. Still nowhere near Is it higher yeah.

Speaker 1:

How? What are you growing it with Bone meal from Minecraft? Yeah, must be Go on £2,749.

Speaker 2:

Which, if I'm not mistaken, that is around two toes.

Speaker 1:

I like how they just described that as well. He just nabbed the world record. What was the last one? 2,600. They take that shit seriously, man.

Speaker 2:

What historic weather event occurred Occured, occured. How do you say that fucking word?

Speaker 1:

I can't Occured. What historic event occurred, occured, occured, yeah.

Speaker 2:

On Halloween in 1991?.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I was going to say Y2K, but that's New Year's Halloween.

Speaker 2:

91 Metallica it was a blizzard where I want specifics was there deaths? Who brought the Halloween tradition to the United States? Christopher Columbus this debunks you because Halloween is not an American thing. No, trick or treating is. Oh sorry, christopher Columbus. So this Debunks you Because Halloween Is not an American thing.

Speaker 1:

No trick or treating is oh sorry yeah.

Speaker 2:

Who brought?

Speaker 1:

Halloween Out to the US, the Scandinavians, Nope. China, other side of the water. Other side of the water, to us, to France.

Speaker 2:

Other side of the water To us.

Speaker 1:

Technically, the other side is the rest of the world, so I'm not wrong.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

Because if you don't stop, you're going to hit that country.

Speaker 2:

Literally, I'm a neighbour.

Speaker 1:

Ireland.

Speaker 2:

Yes, ireland.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

Ireland brought it during the potato famine in the mid-1800s.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you know what's better than being scared, being scared of running out of taters?

Speaker 2:

Which US city hosts the world's largest Halloween parade?

Speaker 1:

Which US city? Us city New Orleans?

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

No, that's Mardi Gras.

Speaker 2:

New York.

Speaker 1:

Oh, okay, I can understand that.

Speaker 2:

When was the first known guide on celebrating Halloween published?

Speaker 1:

The guide of celebrating it yeah. I didn't know. There was a way, no.

Speaker 2:

I didn't.

Speaker 1:

When was it published? Yep 1965.

Speaker 2:

1897. Fuck, I was way off Shit. What is another name for Halloween?

Speaker 1:

Spooky season.

Speaker 2:

This is stupid. All Hallows' Eve.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I've heard about that. I'm pretty sure there's a horror film called All Hallows' Eve.

Speaker 2:

Why do some people wear their clothes inside out on Halloween?

Speaker 1:

Because that is one of the scariest things you can do in public.

Speaker 2:

They believe they'll see a witch at midnight.

Speaker 1:

That's pilgrimage type shit. That is one of the scariest things you can do in public.

Speaker 2:

They believe they'll see a witch at midnight. That's pilgrimage type shit. That is Witch. Wow, when did Halloween start? This is incredible.

Speaker 1:

The film came out in 1974. No 1603.

Speaker 2:

No. No Do you want the answer or do you want to guess?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, go on.

Speaker 2:

It started around 600 AD with the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain.

Speaker 1:

Bloody hell, they just rob everything, don't they? Yeah, they just start everything. That's the Christians for you.

Speaker 2:

No, no offense. Father Christmas is literally Odin. Yeah, christmas trees are pagan.

Speaker 1:

Odin's how can I put? It More militant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Why was Halloween nearly cancelled as a holiday in the 1930s?

Speaker 1:

It's got to be something to do with being scared, Like scaring people, Scaring kids. Kind of Is it something along the lines of like the government or the police Didn't want people walking around in masks and stuff. Kind of Is it something along the lines of like the government or the police didn't want people walking around in masks and stuff.

Speaker 2:

Pranksters and vandals were causing millions of dollars of damage to US cities on Halloween night.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, I mean, when I was a kid I did go egging yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry for it, but I did go egging. Do you want a?

Speaker 1:

few more.

Speaker 2:

We'll do a couple more.

Speaker 1:

Why do we trick?

Speaker 2:

or treat the Americans For home owners To reward pranksters For not vandalising their homes On Halloween.

Speaker 1:

Oh, thanks for not breaking me window.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Here's a Snickers. Do you know?

Speaker 2:

what I mean. Oh, you didn't egg my gaff.

Speaker 1:

Here's a fucking Mars bar.

Speaker 2:

This one's quite easy. Which Halloween candy Was originally referred to as chicken feed? Think about it.

Speaker 1:

Candy corn yes, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 2:

Before pumpkins. Which root vegetable did the Irish and Scottish carve on Halloween?

Speaker 1:

Which root vegetable Tater?

Speaker 2:

Turnips.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that would be so much better. That would be.

Speaker 2:

It would be a lot better. Oh, if you had a turnip screaming at you, yeah, can you imagine loads of little bloody things?

Speaker 1:

Could you get? Wait, I didn't know turnips could get that big.

Speaker 2:

Depends how long you've grown for.

Speaker 1:

Six months.

Speaker 2:

You could be pretty big.

Speaker 1:

Nice.

Speaker 2:

What did Americans use for Halloween decorations in the early 1900s?

Speaker 1:

In the early 1900s. In the early 1900s yeah, so we're talking before the Great Depression I reckon they used animal bones.

Speaker 2:

Yep, creep, paper, cardboard cutouts, corn stalks, pumpkins, gorns, gourds and hay, so literally like nowadays.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, literally nowadays yeah.

Speaker 2:

Which First Lady was the first? Which First Lady was the first to decorate their White House for Halloween?

Speaker 1:

It's got to be Nancy Reagan.

Speaker 2:

Mammy Eisenhower.

Speaker 1:

Eisenhower's wife In 1958.

Speaker 2:

We'll do. I've got two more if you want. Oh, go on then.

Speaker 1:

Do two more. Yeah, two last ones.

Speaker 2:

Which US president told a group of school kids that the White House was haunted by the ghost of Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 1:

Which president said that yeah, nixon Bush Of course Bush would.

Speaker 2:

Why Bush? Of course Bush would. Why are the Halloween colours orange and black?

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

This is literally the most simplest thing ever. I don't think you'll even think how simple this is. They look good together. Orange is for pumpkins and harvest and black represents night and darkness. Standard Literally Love that Is there anything else Just quickly.

Speaker 1:

That's a good little bit of Halloween trivia to kick off spooky month. It is yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Oh, just this one, because I know you'll like this one. Go on. How many Halloween movies has Jamie Lee Curtis appeared in?

Speaker 1:

Oh, my God right, you had the first two. H20. Halloween Halloween Kills, halloween Ends. She was in another one. H2o Halloween Halloween kills, halloween ends. She was in another one when she was Knocked off. Seven.

Speaker 2:

You are Correct. Oi, I'm actually such a.

Speaker 1:

Halloween nerd oh my god. That one's so simple. I'm not going a Halloween nerd, oh my god.

Speaker 2:

That one's so simple I'm not going to say that one. Oh, what movie tops Rotten Tomatoes list of the scariest horror movie Ever made?

Speaker 1:

Scariest horror movie ever made.

Speaker 2:

Sorry, horror movies ever made.

Speaker 1:

Movies.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but it's a movie. Don't count the second one, because it's only just come out. It's fucking awful.

Speaker 1:

Smile. The second one's only just come out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's a chat like 50 years between them. We saw this film in the cinema. Oh, the Exist, yep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because I remember everyone back then talking about how the the crab backwards crab walk down the stairs was actually cut that was Rotten Tomatoes scariest film ever I can back that. That's scary. She got death threats man.

Speaker 2:

That was lethal is there anything else that I can think of? How many minutes does Michael Keaton appear on screen in Beetlejuice? How many minutes does Michael?

Speaker 1:

Keaton appear on screen in Beetlejuice. How many minutes? Yeah, 118. 17. Oh, Alright. Anything else. The film's about him. Hang on how the fuck.

Speaker 2:

I know the film's about him. Now, this is cool because I know the history of this place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

This will be the last one. Where was Hocus Pocus filmed?

Speaker 1:

Oh, the same place they filmed another horror film.

Speaker 2:

Probably, it's probably been a lot longer.

Speaker 1:

The Amityville Horror House.

Speaker 2:

No, my Dad's Gaff, this is.

Speaker 1:

Yes, this is going to give it away.

Speaker 2:

There's probably been a lot of horror, the Amityville Horror House. No, um, there was a lot. My Dad's Gaff, this is this. Yes, this is gonna give it away because it's literally in the name, but there was a lot of witch trials there the witch trials house no, it's a town. Northampton shit boy, you got it, yeah what no, salem, salem's lot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, should have got that. Maybe my horror knowledge is not any shit. Yeah, that's bummed me out a little bit. I didn't get that.

Speaker 2:

I should have got that oh, that's that, just gave it away as well. Witch trials, salem witch trials, sailing witch trials never seen it no, no, it was an historic event.

Speaker 1:

They killed like weren't there a bunch of people weren't there.

Speaker 2:

Don't remember not many people were. It was about 400 years ago the good old days you burned that woman. Yeah, she rejected you.

Speaker 1:

She's a witch right and um yeah so that was a gnarly little bit of trivia it was. I hope you enjoyed that. I hope that didn't bore you. I think I might.

Speaker 2:

I might try and do some every episode for this month. Yeah, because that was quite fun.

Speaker 1:

I liked that. Yeah, so to end off, uh, on this week's pod, yep, um, we've got a a now for the first time ever returning guest for the last ten or so minutes. It's Big John, big John, oh, hello, how are you?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I'm tired now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, to be fair, while we've been doing this, you've literally been sat there playing Carmageddon max damage.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to lie, for for like 20 minutes I was literally just staring at him playing Minecraft and getting severely pissed off for how much he misses placing blocks.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah that's why I don't play games anymore, because I'm just shit at them nah, we all hit that age we all hit that age.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, to end this off, we're going to keep it very horror themed, as it's spooky season. Yes, so do you remember the first ever horror film you watched? Yeah, it was Resident Evil 1 oh good shout, that's a good film yeah, I watched that.

Speaker 3:

I was probably 7, 6 or 7 years old and I watched that and I fell in love with Mila Jokovic, whatever her name is yes, mila Jokovic, whatever her name is.

Speaker 1:

Yes, mila Jokovic, yeah, she is amazing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, good film to watch at 7 as well yeah, that, and there was another one as well, but yeah, mainly.

Speaker 1:

Resident.

Speaker 3:

Evil 1 was the main one I watched and yeah, I remember watching Aaron play the games as well, and I used to sit there and shit my pants while he was playing the game.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I actually remember once when I, our cousin, my cousin, your brother, and he was playing a Resident Evil game on PlayStation 1, I think and he literally I stood there watching him and I was like what is that? And he went oh, watch this. And he walked in between past these boxes and in between you just saw feet, and then the zombie just got up and started going at him and I was like eight-year-old me, he's like I was absolutely screaming um. So yeah, since, in in your entire life, since you've watched your first one, what would you say is your favorite horror of all time?

Speaker 3:

oh, my favorite horror, um, as in when it comes to like being very, very creepy and like actually making me feel a bit like weird was probably hereditary. I'll Hereditary had really messed me up. I was watching it and I was like Jesus Christ, I'm actually scared. I'm looking behind me and I'm running up the stairs making sure there's no one chasing me. I was looking at the corner of my room and no one woman is hovering there.

Speaker 2:

Do you know what? I could agree on that one, because Hereditary did make me feel very uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

I'm pretty sure I've watched this.

Speaker 2:

I think it's an awful film, but it did make me feel uncomfortable.

Speaker 1:

You see, I liked it, but I think I've watched it recently. Is that the one with the lad when he's in class and he just starts racking his head off the desk? Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

That fucked with me man.

Speaker 3:

I think it's.

Speaker 2:

Isn't it the?

Speaker 1:

one where the little girl sticks, she gets decapitated. Yeah, deca-ca-ca-ca, she gets decapitated, yeah, yeah, oh, spoilers for Hereditary, but watch that it's brilliant.

Speaker 2:

I think it's been up for eight years now.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's pretty old but oh yeah, that's actually a shout.

Speaker 1:

That was really creepy. The girl at the start creeped me out with that. Do you know?

Speaker 3:

when she just stands there looking in the distance speaking yeah, like listening to someone yeah, yeah, they say all the aspects of it, the whole, like it wasn't even jump scare, things was. It was a case of just you could see something at the corner and it just freaking, freaked you out yeah like, um, it was an old asian horror movie I used. Uh well, I've never seen the full thing, but I've seen clips on social media and it was of this woman who was going like in slow motion, going up and down, and like it was freaking's no jump scares.

Speaker 2:

That's not a horror film, mate. That's an illegal 18+.

Speaker 3:

I probably shouldn't be on the internet that's X-rated.

Speaker 1:

You might have watched a snuff film in that one.

Speaker 2:

Please do not say any more on that. This is now a PG-13 channel.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we don't talk about 18-rated films, although we just spoke about a girl being decapitated. So in your opinion then, if you can remember one, what's a horror film you've watched and you thought that's sick? That film was absolutely banging, but the worldwide reviews of it is that it was terrible.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's going to take me a while to think of. I'll be honest.

Speaker 1:

Because I've got kind of microwave massacre. Now just hear me out. Right, it's B rated, low budget. The whole concept is he kills his wife because she keeps making microwave meals and it's set in like the 70s 80s that's an amazing film listen.

Speaker 1:

People shit on it and they're like. They're like what is this? And I'm there, like this is amazing. He, he, he kidnapped. He basically chats up girls, takes them home, sleeps with them, kills them, cooks them in his brand new microwave 9000. Yeah, no, but in actual fact it's probably one of the worst films I've ever seen. I've ever seen.

Speaker 3:

It was funny but it's one of the worst ones, I reckon probably. I mean, as far as I know, it's got bad reviews. But the first Hostel was something that I thought was really good. The first one, the goriness of it and just I thought it was alright, but then I heard a lot of people slander it quite a lot.

Speaker 1:

I didn't. If I'm not, I swear. The first hostel had a theatre show in and someone either passed out or threw up watching it.

Speaker 3:

I swear I could not tell you Probably both you know some people, especially me, I'd imagine would probably be in the American theatres, because they tend to squeal at things more like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I feel like us British when it comes to horror. We are hard bastards. Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 2:

there's a film that I watched about a year ago on Shudder, and I cannot, for the life of me, remember the name. I think it's Paris, something like that, or. Catacombs, something like that.

Speaker 1:

As above, so below no as above down, no as above down below, or something like that. Where they're in the catacombs, they get lost.

Speaker 3:

Yeah and then they find a Nazi soldier. Yes, yeah, I remember that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I can't remember that. I don't remember that from as above, so below, yeah, I think it only came out like a year or two ago, oh no as above, so below came out in like 2016.

Speaker 2:

It's only been on Shudder. Is it should original? I think so. Shout out, shoulda man. Yeah, these teenagers go down catacombs. And then they yeah, they somehow find an old German base that's still run by this cracked out Nazi who's got zombie dogs and he's basically a zombie as well it reminded me now people hate it, but I fucking loved it zombie, nazis and all that was.

Speaker 3:

Dead Snow remember. Dead Snow, dead Snow Remember.

Speaker 1:

Dead Snow. Dead Snow is a shout out of the film. Actually, it's comical for how it is. It's like proper typical gory zombie, but it's so good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and there was another one Wreck as in record. I remember that it's like a zombie that's trapped in this apartment building, the news reporters and policemen and firemen, and there's like a whole zombie outbreak going on inside and it just like gets to everyone. There's an English version with the woman who played the haunting of Emily Rose. That woman was in White Chicks and there was a foreign version as well. But I remember I think the foreign version was the best one. I think it was always like better, well done. But people also, you know, they shit on that one as well. They shit on those kind of movies.

Speaker 1:

No, a sub-genre of horror that I rate highly is how do you call it self-recorded?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, POVs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, pov Creep VHS Found footage.

Speaker 1:

Found footage type shit and obviously Blair Witches.

Speaker 2:

It's the top dog.

Speaker 1:

I was about to say. That is literally the film. It's the number one, isn't it 100%?

Speaker 2:

There was a film Found Footage. Is it Found Footage?

Speaker 3:

I can't actually remember if it is now. Do you know the name of the movie?

Speaker 2:

No, I know the name of the movie. I just can't remember if it's Found Footage or not, but I think it is, or parts of it is, fan footage. That is my favourite horror film of all time.

Speaker 3:

Paranormal Activity was up there as well. Oh, I thought they were awful Really.

Speaker 2:

I thought Paranormal Activity was awful.

Speaker 3:

They were dragged on a bit. They were. They were very slow, they could have been 20 minute YouTube videos. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

That would have been a good docuseries. Yeah, no, but did Paranormal Activity 1, the bit in number one where the spirit stood at the door and you can't see it, but you can see its shadow, did that not?

Speaker 3:

fucking creep you out. Yeah, and then the footprints in the flower on the floor when you put the flower on the floor whatever it was. That was quite scary. I think the one thing that got me when I first watched it because I was probably about 12 when I first watched it was the ending scene. There's two different ending scenes. There's alternative and there's ones in cinema, and the one that I watched for the first time is when she goes downstairs, pretends to spoil it as well, if you haven't seen it. Pretends to scream.

Speaker 3:

It's a demon that's absorbed her, and then Micah take it in her soul possessed but then Micah the fellow ran downstairs because he thought, oh, this is a, take it in a possessed like a sponge. Possessed, yeah, I said the word possessed, um. But then Micah the fella ran downstairs because he thought, oh, my missus is in trouble. And then you just hear like this you know um assault happen, you know he got hurt, basically. And um, give it. About a minute later we hear his footsteps and all of a sudden his body just goes, flies at the camera. That shit me up when I was probably about 12 yeah but it was good that's solid.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but they did it's. I think it's in four or five. That's when you knew Paranormal Massacre had gone down the shitter. When they were, they were seeing the spirit through a Xbox Kinect sensor. Yeah, that's like, yeah, you've really fucking, you've run out of ideas now, haven't you really?

Speaker 2:

Good brand deal though.

Speaker 1:

Oh 100%, yeah, 100%.

Speaker 3:

Sponsored by Xbox.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so We'll finish it off With one last question, and we can answer this as well, because we didn't answer it ourselves, right? But we'll start off with you, john. Obviously, boys, we're in our 20s, we're too old to trick or treat, we're past it. But when you were a kid and you go trick or treating, what was that one sweet or chocolate or, as an American tradition, candy that you got and you were so fucking excited to get, you were like I'm gassed, I got this chocolate stars in the blue packet milky way stars that was one that was my favourite like sweet chocolate to get and I always got it around the neighbourhood I used to live in, obviously doing it, you know, in Snillsville and yeah, and I won a chocolate stars that was.

Speaker 3:

You know that was really good. I was really happy about that when I was about 10.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do you know the thing? I think the last time I went trick-or-treating I was about 16.

Speaker 3:

I think I stopped about 12, 13 with my stops. Yeah, but only because I ran out of ideas for outfits, you know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I was Michael Myers, jason Voorhees, leatherface. I think I was Pinhead at one point. Yeah, at one point, but I don't do it anymore.

Speaker 1:

I'd imagine if us three went trick or treating three, a 25 year old going on 26 and like a 20 year old and a 21 year old knocking at your door, going can I have some sweets? They'd be like can you fuck off?

Speaker 3:

no, I think the problem is now is that if we went trick or treating, we would probably pick outfits that would get us into a lot of trouble in public. You would yeah. I personally would yeah, because I've got ideas in my head on what I would go, as you know. But it's yeah. I'd get in trouble. I'd probably be in a cell, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't think there's anything wrong with if I went as Maggie Thatcher. You know what I mean the Iron.

Speaker 3:

Lady, the zombified, maggie Thatcher.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that'd be cool. A zombified Maggie Thatcher would be awesome. What about you, damien? You, when you were a? Oh me, yeah, see, it never happened. I would have been gassed if I'd got a caromac, but it never happened. No, but when I was a kid, bearing in mind I. But when I was a kid, if someone banged me with one of those diddy packets of Haribo Tangfastics, I was like, yeah, I ain't going to sleep tonight.

Speaker 3:

That was like the childhood cocaine.

Speaker 1:

It literally was, yeah, like sour sweets, was like it was like it's drugs for children really. Come on, dan, you've been thinking about this question but I can see in your face for about three minutes and you look awfully lost in thought thinking about this question. But I can see your face for about three minutes and you look awfully lost in thought. I can literally only think when I got a new part for my tractor.

Speaker 2:

I've been trick or treating once in my entire life. Really, I might be mistaken, but it's not. It's literally.

Speaker 1:

I don't even think it's a handful oh my god, this, literally this went from like wholesome childhood experience, like depression oh shit, really they'll go see, you know, mother yeah, well, we, me and Asa used to take trick or treat but we always got candy that we ate.

Speaker 2:

because she doesn't like to do trick-or-treating, she's like I'm not giving kids candy.

Speaker 1:

I used to love it, man, this little girl, one of my mum's ones. Someone up the road went all out, did like things jumping out and everything. She was in fucking tears, bless her. And one kid had come before her and I was like, ah, screw it. So you get the Diddy bags and Harry bows those multiple multi bags and like chocolate and everything. I literally just tipped it all in a bag and I was like, there you are. That made me feel better.

Speaker 2:

The only candy sweets, whatever you want to call them that I can think of, that I actually, you know, relate to Halloween. That I love, that I haven't had in literally at least 10 years, probably even longer, is Candy Call yeah. I really like Candy Call do you know what? I can't even remember getting that. I had it once on a cake, that was it nice.

Speaker 1:

I've eaten it now and I'm just saying I've missed out when I was a kid. Do you know what I mean? Yeah but yeah, fair play, yeah, fair play, right. Well, what a way to start off a spooky season with JD on the Rocks, it is.

Speaker 2:

Spooky, spooky, skeleton. Yeah, a good Shivers down my spine.

Speaker 1:

A brilliant horror mystery film. Yeah, some good Halloween trivia.

Speaker 2:

Definitely.

Speaker 1:

Know what I mean. We've hit it hard with this one. I deserve a nap.

Speaker 2:

Well, I mean, it is literally my bedtime.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I mean, it is literally my bedtime. Yeah, it was. With how much sleep I got last night. Yeah, it should be now, but no, I think I might sit on the Xbox for another three hours. Why?

Speaker 2:

not. Yeah, I might just call in sick to work and just never turn up again you know you would cry.

Speaker 1:

You can't go five minutes without farming.

Speaker 2:

True, yeah, but yeah, thanks, should we, should we tease? Shall we tease?

Speaker 1:

we won't give it away we won't give it away check our socials for these teasers coming up keep your eye on the Instagram and TikTok the next weekend if you're a fan of horror, especially nowadays especially gore you're going to be excited for this, this next week's episode.

Speaker 2:

The next week's episode because it will be almost what's going to be excited for this next week's episode, because it will be almost what's the word I'm trying to think of, almost like a red carpet review, because it literally comes out and we're watching it we're watching it and we're recording the day after yeah, so this is literally on the spot yeah first, first react there's something I want to say as a teaser for the film Do you want to.

Speaker 1:

But it would give it away if I used the describing word I want to use.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but let's be honest, Nin and my dad aren't going to know.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, Nin doesn't watch those much.

Speaker 2:

Just give it a little teaser, little teaser, do it.

Speaker 1:

Do it, do it, do it, do it. So keep an eye out for next week's episode, because it will be quite terrifying yes, it will be and that's all I'm saying, because I give it away, because I'm getting excited. I'm getting excited that we're going to. I'm actually really excited about this episode. But yeah, right, so thanks everyone for listening to this.

Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's not very good.

Speaker 2:

I might fire her. Our manager will text you. Yes, the manager will get back in three to five working days. Yeah, she's not very good. I might fire her.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you in there. Oh, I made trouble oh lucky this is right at the end, so she might not get to it.

Speaker 2:

I'm hoping she's turned off by now. I'm hoping she's bored. Yeah, this is where she's standing outside the door again. She's been listening to this all the time. The glass On the wall.

Speaker 1:

But, yeah, thanks to everyone who's listened to this. Thank you very much. We really appreciate it. Check out. Hope you enjoyed.

Speaker 2:

I think I've said it about four or five times now, but check our socials. Follow us on socials, jd on the Rocks pod.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 2:

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Speaker 1:

Yes, get season one hell of a season to some people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely I want to. At least. I want to at least make some 10 random people I don't know. Yeah, have a good month this year. Just talk about horror films. Absolutely, we have some. We have some people that listen in jakarta not jakarta, sorry java.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we, yes, we looked at the countries who are, who are I'm I'm actually gassed when we've got a silly country.

Speaker 2:

Big up Singapore. Big up Singapore. They've listed 16 downloads from Singapore. We've got one download from Mexico, India.

Speaker 1:

I think we've got one from Peru as well, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And big up Tanzania.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we've got two from Tanzania. Yeah, big ups to all you lot for listening, man, we appreciate you, we love you. But yes, so yeah thank you again and we'll see you in the next one. We will, yeah, enjoy your week and, yes, have a good week stay scared absolutely.