Entrepreneurship, Self Doubt, Comparison on Social Media, Alcohol Triggers and Hustle Culture with Haley and Kara

In this episode Haley and Kara sit down and have a candid conversation about entrepreneurship . They, delve into the journey of starting a business from its inception to growth, addressing the raw experiences and pivotal moments along the way.

They get real about self doubt and share strategies for handling uncertainties during those crucial early phases of business development. They reveal how this entrepreneurial experience has become an unexpected avenue for personal growth and development.

They touch on the influence of social media on their work and its impact and the emotional challenges of comparison it often triggers.

Contrary to the 'hustle' culture, they unpack why Gateless work feels more like an enjoyable journey than a relentless grind. Haley candidly shares insights into managing personal triggers around alcohol and anxiety, shedding light on coping mechanisms learned along the way.

Tune in for a very raw discussion on entrepreneurship, personal growth, and the unforeseen lessons learned on this exciting adventure.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Reflecting on Gateless's Journey
• 2:33 Behind the Scenes: Business Coaching with Jasmine Star
• 10:04 The Impact of Alcohol on Anxiety and Productivity
• 17:06 Navigating Holiday Triggers and Setting Boundaries
• 21:11 New Job, New Challenges
• 25:31 Decoding Gut Feelings
• 26:18 The Unexpected Journey of Our Podcast
• 27:21 Shoot Your Shot Fridays
• 28:39 Redefining Hustle
• 36:06 Navigating Self-Doubt in Entrepreneurship
• 38:49 Managing Social Media Influence
• 43:15 Reflecting on Our Business and Personal Growth
• 43:53 Introducing Our Email Newsletter

Transcript

00:00:00.040 hello Haley hello just us today it is
00:00:03.919 having to chat about uh the last couple
00:00:06.440 of months catching up catching up on
00:00:10.639 everything gatess and what we I mean
00:00:14.160 we're only August September October
00:00:15.719 November like 3 months into this as a
00:00:18.439 business a lot has happened yeah we went
00:00:21.359 from being a little confused sitting at
00:00:23.080 a coffee shop on what we been talking
00:00:24.640 about and what we were trying to build
00:00:26.119 to having recorded now six
00:00:31.160 episodes of really interesting
00:00:33.520 conversations with women that have
00:00:36.879 taught us a lot and I I feel like I've
00:00:38.440 gotten a lot of takeaways from these
00:00:40.000 this is like the best
00:00:41.360 networking it definitely is and it's
00:00:44.360 it's a really for me it's a a really
00:00:47.360 good um opportunity to kind of hone in
00:00:51.440 on my skills of speaking and um I don't
00:00:55.239 know going into this I was a little
00:00:56.640 nervous honestly CU I'm not the best
00:00:59.120 public speaker but it it gets more
00:01:00.960 comfortable every time so practicing is
00:01:04.080 important for that I think we also have
00:01:06.520 recently had this unlock for ourselves
00:01:09.920 on the purpose of the podcast and the
00:01:12.720 purpose of gatess and to me something
00:01:17.200 that we talk about I've always believed
00:01:19.080 and something we talked about right at
00:01:20.280 the beginning was there's this like
00:01:22.439 proverbial gate up in between us and
00:01:26.079 some conversations we want to be having
00:01:27.640 with people or rooms where interesting
00:01:29.439 things are being discussed there's a
00:01:31.400 gate between us in the rooms that
00:01:33.079 interesting conversations are happening
00:01:35.640 and decisions are being made and all
00:01:37.720 these things and the the proverbial room
00:01:42.439 where the conversation is happening is
00:01:44.799 this podcast and we are we are having
00:01:47.280 discussions and documenting our
00:01:48.759 discussions with women who have achieved
00:01:52.320 a lot and have found a way that works
00:01:54.119 for them to do so and we're we want to
00:01:56.079 share it with everybody our whole point
00:01:57.640 is like we're The anti- Gatekeepers club
00:01:59.439 we want to let everybody into the room
00:02:02.479 where these conversations are happening
00:02:04.439 because you might not have these people
00:02:06.079 in your network and you might not be
00:02:07.560 able to talk to these people one-on-one
00:02:09.119 but like we have been people have been
00:02:11.160 so generous with us in their Network and
00:02:13.080 so we're having these amazing
00:02:14.480 discussions with Incredible women and
00:02:16.840 the whole purpose of the podcast is
00:02:20.080 opening the doors to the proverbial room
00:02:23.360 where it happens even for us without
00:02:25.599 this podcast we wouldn't have we
00:02:27.560 wouldn't be having these conversations
00:02:29.160 and we wouldn't have access to these
00:02:30.400 conversations so it's really interesting
00:02:32.440 it's really cool yeah it is and you
00:02:36.160 recorded an episode without me a couple
00:02:39.239 weeks ago in San Diego which was the
00:02:43.000 business coaching conversation yes
00:02:46.239 how full transparency Haley still hasn't
00:02:48.800 even listened to that conversation yet
00:02:50.480 because she's scared to listen to this
00:02:52.040 whole episode but I am curious to hear
00:02:54.800 your takeaways from that experience yeah
00:02:58.760 so I went to um San Diego for like about
00:03:04.720 2 weeks or so um for my birthday and
00:03:08.120 happy birthday thank you we've been
00:03:09.760 talking about my birthday a lot um but
00:03:14.080 um so Jasmin star I did her Mastermind a
00:03:18.440 few months ago and it was amazing and
00:03:20.000 she mentioned during her Mastermind
00:03:22.360 which was like a group of women that she
00:03:23.840 basically did business coaching for this
00:03:25.599 whole group of women um but she
00:03:27.560 mentioned you know that she did offer
00:03:29.920 like a business coaching kind of like
00:03:32.159 off the the table um and so I talked to
00:03:35.840 her about it and she lives in Newport
00:03:37.360 Beach which is near San Diego so I got
00:03:39.480 it set up and um so it was like a 4-Hour
00:03:42.879 coaching session but I was like what if
00:03:45.159 we opened up like one hour of this to be
00:03:48.760 a podcast episode that is a behind the
00:03:51.480 scenes of a business coaching session so
00:03:53.640 I'm still getting my business coaching
00:03:56.480 session but I'm just we're just going to
00:03:58.239 start recording it so that we can put it
00:04:00.200 on the podcast and people everybody can
00:04:01.959 learn from it and I'll ask her I'll save
00:04:04.319 the questions that I think are more
00:04:05.680 applicable to everyone else for the end
00:04:07.560 of the podcast yeah um so that was the
00:04:09.959 idea behind it I found a like someone to
00:04:13.680 record it out there and they came with
00:04:15.560 like microphones you know like podcast
00:04:17.759 microphones and stuff and I think what
00:04:19.440 went wrong was that I It was supposed to
00:04:21.720 be like a behind the scenes look but
00:04:24.040 then once they're there with like the
00:04:25.479 microphones and you're kind of like
00:04:27.120 sitting like a podcast it just kind of
00:04:29.919 turned into like an interview so I felt
00:04:33.440 like I walked away from a feeling super
00:04:35.080 disappointed like I had like ruined my
00:04:37.440 opportunity of this episode because I
00:04:40.720 was like if this was an interview I
00:04:42.160 would have asked her different questions
00:04:44.280 and it was supposed to be like a behind
00:04:46.600 the-scenes look but then it kind of
00:04:48.000 turned into like a hybrid and uh so all
00:04:52.360 that to say I walked away feeling like a
00:04:53.880 little bit disappointed but then I
00:04:56.560 actually did listen to it on the way
00:04:58.240 here um for like just like the first
00:05:01.240 like few minutes and I was like oh this
00:05:02.840 is actually pretty good I mean after
00:05:05.280 that session you hadn't sent me anything
00:05:08.520 other than I'm so sorry in advance over
00:05:12.280 text and I was like what okay yeah so
00:05:14.440 also full transparency I so mid podcast
00:05:20.080 I I kind of like want to F like have the
00:05:22.639 people send me the clip of it because
00:05:24.520 like mid podcast she said she's just so
00:05:26.560 good I think she like well actually tell
00:05:28.960 us who I don't think everyone who knows
00:05:31.280 so Jasmine star is um she basically is
00:05:35.560 an entrepreneur CEO she has a podcast
00:05:38.240 she's a speaker um she's just like a a
00:05:42.479 genius and um she has a business it's
00:05:45.759 very similar to my business coffee and
00:05:48.039 contracts so she does like a it's now a
00:05:51.840 like subscription software as a
00:05:53.639 subscription but it basically helps
00:05:55.840 business owners with social media and
00:05:57.319 it's like very similar um um so I really
00:06:01.199 wanted her to get her on the gatess
00:06:03.319 podcast because whenever I applied for
00:06:05.479 her Mastermind I was like she's probably
00:06:07.880 going to reject me because my business
00:06:10.280 is essentially a competitor to hers like
00:06:12.680 she's not going to want to give me all
00:06:14.039 her Secrets but I was like could not be
00:06:16.560 more wrong she like especially wanted me
00:06:18.840 because I had such a similar business to
00:06:21.319 hers to be a part of the Mastermind and
00:06:24.039 whenever I talked to her she was like
00:06:25.280 the most excited she was like honestly
00:06:27.440 I'm so excited because our businesses
00:06:28.919 are so simp and she's like here's what I
00:06:30.599 learned here's the mistakes I made like
00:06:32.720 I was so shocked at everything she told
00:06:34.560 me I was like w she just like gave me
00:06:37.120 all the secrets like she saved me two
00:06:39.199 years the OG anti-at keeper and every
00:06:41.840 yeah exactly so um anyways but during
00:06:45.199 the interview I completely blacked out
00:06:47.639 at one point like she had such a good
00:06:50.400 answer like I asked her a question and
00:06:52.319 she she just like answers it to
00:06:54.039 completion and so you're like okay I got
00:06:57.599 nothing yeah so she I asked her
00:06:59.879 something and then she answered and I
00:07:01.440 was like like it was literally just you
00:07:04.120 just said nothing I I saw the vid the
00:07:06.160 people behind the video like and she was
00:07:08.800 like and I was
00:07:10.479 like anyways like I totally just like it
00:07:14.080 was like a a glitch in my brain yeah um
00:07:16.720 so I think that and then after that my
00:07:18.639 mind was just going like oh God yeah it
00:07:22.199 just started making me spiral I was like
00:07:24.160 you you just ruined it and but yeah I'm
00:07:27.800 working on that I've I real tooo like
00:07:30.120 one thing that I am going to practice is
00:07:33.000 visualizing and that's what I did today
00:07:35.520 too is kind of like visualizing The
00:07:37.000 Experience going better beforehand
00:07:40.360 because my mind I'm just an anxious
00:07:42.960 person and I start to like Spiral like
00:07:45.520 even there's like some weird voice in my
00:07:47.280 head that like midc conversation will be
00:07:48.919 like woo you're not doing so good like
00:07:51.479 really yeah something's something I
00:07:53.560 think that that happens to a lot of
00:07:54.639 people but visualization practices are
00:07:56.400 so powerful um my dad shout out to dad
00:08:00.280 again twice in one day three times I he
00:08:03.319 gave me a I was in high school playing
00:08:06.919 High School sports and he gave me one of
00:08:09.000 those like little mini um iPods M uh
00:08:12.599 Shuffle the iPod Shuffle yeah and on the
00:08:15.599 back of it he put um he like had it
00:08:17.639 engraved it said visualize success oo
00:08:20.120 and I have always always always thought
00:08:22.400 about that because it is so true like
00:08:25.000 you if you
00:08:26.400 visualize what is about to happen and
00:08:29.319 visualize a positive outcome or you
00:08:31.520 visualize yourself overcoming obstacles
00:08:33.440 that are inevitable to come at you you
00:08:36.120 are prepared even though it didn't
00:08:37.958 happen and you don't have the physical
00:08:39.200 experience of doing it in your mind you
00:08:40.479 do I also once had a soccer coach that
00:08:42.599 used to make us play mental soccer for
00:08:44.399 an hour in our head every day W that's
00:08:46.519 aggressive but it helped it's like when
00:08:49.160 you're in the situation you feel like
00:08:50.560 you've been there before you feel You'
00:08:52.360 before and you see the positive outcome
00:08:53.640 so it's it's huge in like every sport
00:08:55.880 and everything it's very important but
00:08:58.120 yeah it's hard to sometimes it's easy to
00:08:59.640 forget when you get yeah caught up in
00:09:01.640 other things in daily daily life so I
00:09:04.480 have listened to that recording a couple
00:09:06.399 times and it was not a flop and it was
00:09:09.399 very valuable well they cut out the part
00:09:10.920 where I well whatever well let's get our
00:09:12.800 hands on that we should post it I know I
00:09:14.839 was I was I was going to ask them but I
00:09:16.480 thought they would be like we definitely
00:09:18.800 threw that away questioning yourself
00:09:20.519 again just ask for it um but it was I
00:09:23.519 had a lot of takeaways uh she taught me
00:09:26.839 things about the way she thinks about
00:09:28.720 like Footprints and um the way you
00:09:32.399 prioritize focus and uh she really
00:09:36.079 pressed on you a little bit
00:09:38.000 on you do have something to say and you
00:09:40.240 are relatable to a big audience and the
00:09:43.200 fact that you think your voice doesn't
00:09:44.480 matter is just a cop out at this point
00:09:46.800 well I don't like consciously think that
00:09:49.040 yeah it's just like sneaks up in
00:09:51.320 different ways that prevents me from
00:09:53.040 doing things you know yeah absolutely so
00:09:56.320 my best friend lives in San Diego and my
00:09:58.320 brother lives over there as well um so
00:10:02.800 we just kind of hung out um up until
00:10:05.880 then one thing that we that I know we
00:10:07.760 want to talk about on the podcast is
00:10:09.440 like of course topics that people don't
00:10:12.839 typically talk about um or just like
00:10:16.160 things that people struggle with and
00:10:17.880 just don't that nobody wants to talk
00:10:19.440 about you know things that they're
00:10:21.120 struggling with and instead kind of like
00:10:23.000 social media is like a highlight reel
00:10:24.360 and all that kind of stuff so we kind of
00:10:26.040 want to shed some light on things that
00:10:27.440 like people don't talk about as much and
00:10:31.360 leading up to my birthday I like hadn't
00:10:34.839 been drinking alcohol for a while I just
00:10:38.160 like yeah like three months or so um and
00:10:41.399 like all year I've been doing like
00:10:43.079 really long streaks of not drinking and
00:10:45.320 then like I would be like oh there's a
00:10:47.240 birthday party or something and then um
00:10:50.399 so it was my birthday and I kind of like
00:10:52.000 initially was like it's my birthday I'm
00:10:54.160 not going to drink because I want to
00:10:55.600 feel amazing and but then like once
00:10:59.360 something I I told you something about
00:11:00.800 getting at the airport once you're at
00:11:02.440 the airport I'm like it's vacation time
00:11:05.279 or something like that does happen at
00:11:06.639 the airport it makes fun to eat
00:11:07.760 unhealthy snacks and have a glass I'm
00:11:09.639 like it's yeah it's time to have sour
00:11:11.120 Skittles and like stuff You' never buy
00:11:13.920 yeah I'm like weport those pretzel
00:11:16.120 combos like I would never buy those at
00:11:18.200 the airport they're they're being yeah
00:11:20.040 and even like yeah so um so I ended up
00:11:23.240 drinking on my birthday and like you
00:11:26.560 know all that because I was excited to
00:11:29.600 see my friends and family and like it's
00:11:32.240 just something that we always do
00:11:34.040 together or we always have done together
00:11:35.680 so it's kind of like hard to break that
00:11:38.240 mold I think or like that habit I mean
00:11:41.320 it went fine I just like I don't know if
00:11:44.800 alcohol is for me it's like does not
00:11:47.680 agree with my body the like amount of
00:11:50.720 anxiety I get after drinking alcohol is
00:11:53.800 insane um what does the anxiety feel
00:11:56.160 like well I already have pretty bad
00:11:59.040 anxiety and I think that like you know
00:12:01.399 it's pretty scientifically proven that
00:12:04.240 you put alcohol in anxiety it just makes
00:12:05.959 it a lot worse um but I just get like I
00:12:09.959 it's like it's sometimes it's not even
00:12:11.720 like I'm having thoughts like oh I did
00:12:14.160 something crazy or I did something bad
00:12:15.680 like while I was drinking it's literally
00:12:17.440 like I wake up the next day with like a
00:12:19.120 physical feeling of just being so down
00:12:22.680 and like not feeling my best I think
00:12:25.639 maybe it's almost like that you get
00:12:27.519 anxious when you're just not feeling
00:12:29.040 like physically good maybe I don't know
00:12:32.360 I mean definitely there has been times
00:12:33.839 where I have like a ton of thoughts to
00:12:36.560 running through my head racing thoughts
00:12:38.000 of me like picking apart something tiny
00:12:40.519 that I did like oh I I probably act like
00:12:43.160 talk too loud or I probably acted too
00:12:45.639 crazy or I was too this or I was too
00:12:47.279 that so a lot of it is like there's some
00:12:49.320 sort of like shame wrapped up in there
00:12:51.079 too but um but yeah it's just like and I
00:12:53.880 feel like it's just kind of like getting
00:12:55.760 harder for me so I'm that's something
00:12:57.399 that I'm working with like like
00:12:59.560 especially like when I don't drink
00:13:02.560 alcohol for a while I notice that my
00:13:05.600 business and me and my team and
00:13:08.720 everything is like just doing so much
00:13:11.199 better just absolutely thriving I think
00:13:14.120 it's almost like sometimes I wonder if
00:13:16.760 like sometimes drinking is a way a
00:13:20.639 little bit of self-sabotage because if
00:13:22.920 you see you're like we got to slow this
00:13:25.000 train down baby like just kid you know
00:13:28.040 like maybe they something subconsciously
00:13:30.320 that's like we got to we got to slow our
00:13:33.240 rooll we're going too hard I don't know
00:13:35.760 there's a lot to unpack there there is a
00:13:37.399 lot to unpack there how long does it
00:13:39.360 take you to feel better after these Ani
00:13:44.000 either I'm a whole day um or two and
00:13:48.360 you're not even talking about a lot of
00:13:49.959 alcohol you're talking about like
00:13:51.320 feeling this anxiety after a few DRS
00:13:53.639 yeah I drank the same amount as like my
00:13:57.120 friends and they wake up the next
00:13:59.040 morning and are like it's a beautiful
00:14:01.120 day and I wake up and I'm like dark and
00:14:03.600 stormy yeah just like I'm just sad I
00:14:05.839 don't know yeah and it just I don't know
00:14:07.680 I just don't like the feeling of feeling
00:14:09.360 like uh fuzzy like I don't know how to
00:14:12.279 explain it but like yeah the next day
00:14:14.519 you just feel like foggy brained I guess
00:14:17.440 we don't have time for that yeah we're
00:14:19.160 busy ladies I know got a lot to
00:14:21.120 accomplish yeah it's just I don't don't
00:14:23.000 know if it's serving me these days so um
00:14:26.480 so do you have uh like a a PL a plan or
00:14:30.120 a goal for yourself are you g to
00:14:32.279 continue I've kind of just been um doing
00:14:36.160 these streaks where I'm just like okay
00:14:38.360 I'm just it gets very hard during the
00:14:40.680 holidays though that's for sure um it's
00:14:44.040 hard does it get hard during the
00:14:46.040 holidays because it's just around a lot
00:14:47.720 or does it get around hard during the
00:14:48.959 holidays because holidays are
00:14:51.800 stressful I feel like both um you it
00:14:57.000 depends like and also there's
00:14:59.480 it's kind of goes back into like the
00:15:01.160 ritual thing of like when I'm with like
00:15:06.079 my dad side of the family like that's
00:15:08.120 kind of like a big thing that we've
00:15:10.120 always done is like like at you know at
00:15:13.120 the cabin having like our our whiskies
00:15:15.519 or our wine or whatever um so it's kind
00:15:18.600 of like it's I think part of it too as
00:15:21.680 as much as it shouldn't be is like you
00:15:23.240 don't want to make other people
00:15:24.560 uncomfortable uh yeah that's a thing
00:15:27.560 yeah like you're like you don't want
00:15:29.120 them to feel like they can't drink
00:15:30.319 around you yeah yeah so if they're like
00:15:32.319 haly you want to you want like you know
00:15:34.959 we're pouring up sometimes people will
00:15:36.440 just pour you a glass of wine without
00:15:38.120 you even saying anything if you're like
00:15:39.319 no I'm I'm just going to have a Diet
00:15:40.839 Coke or something then they're like
00:15:42.560 really yeah yeah oh no that's a thing
00:15:45.720 like people assume that there's
00:15:47.000 something wrong with you if you don't
00:15:48.120 want to have a drink and that's really
00:15:49.399 not true maybe you're just choosing to
00:15:51.880 have mental Clarity it's the only drug
00:15:53.360 you have to explain the reason you're
00:15:55.160 not doing oh yeah that's a really good
00:15:58.360 point mhm it's the only drug that you
00:16:00.279 have to explain why you don't want it
00:16:02.680 yeah I feel like that's a big thing for
00:16:05.319 everyone to remember like if there are
00:16:07.519 people around you that are choosing not
00:16:10.199 to drink MH don't ask them why yeah
00:16:13.680 everybody has different reasons or at
00:16:15.120 least don't ask them publicly maybe
00:16:16.360 there is something under there that you
00:16:17.480 want to get to with your friends you're
00:16:19.639 curious about it for yourself but like
00:16:21.440 it doesn't have to be a oh wow why not
00:16:23.839 yeah it's not always a bad thing it's
00:16:25.800 maybe because they're choosing a
00:16:27.399 positive outcome for themselves yeah it
00:16:29.560 could be health related Co and admirable
00:16:31.399 actually yeah I remember one time I was
00:16:33.759 some this is like a while ago I just
00:16:35.519 didn't want to drink one night and I
00:16:36.839 didn't feel like you know some of like I
00:16:40.079 was at a bar and some of them was like
00:16:42.560 can I get you a drink I'm like oh I'm
00:16:43.959 good like I have water or something and
00:16:46.240 they were like why aren't you drinking
00:16:47.880 and I was like and I lied and I I know
00:16:50.079 you don't have to lie but I was like I'm
00:16:51.560 on a I'm on a medicine that I can't
00:16:53.800 drink like and they were like oh I'm a
00:16:55.120 nurse what medicine and I was like get
00:16:57.160 out of my bsiness I was like um I don't
00:16:59.240 remember what it's called but I was like
00:17:00.759 it felt like she was like testing me
00:17:02.399 like interesting yeah I know so people
00:17:04.599 get really weird about it at this point
00:17:06.679 well speaking of holidays uh the we are
00:17:09.599 a week away from actually by the time
00:17:12.679 this airs it might even be uh
00:17:15.919 Thanksgiving or on Thanksgiving
00:17:17.160 something like that I think holiday
00:17:21.359 triggers everyone thinks about them
00:17:23.280 maybe consciously subconsciously and
00:17:26.280 it's so easy to be like okay this is
00:17:29.520 going to be a doozy of a family outing
00:17:31.280 or family gathering I'm going to make
00:17:32.600 sure I like grab a glass of wine to be
00:17:34.559 chill and um I have a shift in my own
00:17:39.000 mentality this year and how I'm thinking
00:17:41.039 about going into the holidays because I
00:17:43.280 get I do get stressed and overwhelmed a
00:17:45.280 little bit with like the amount of
00:17:47.000 people and like the fact that you really
00:17:50.400 you're you're wanted and needed in a lot
00:17:52.440 of places and it's logistically kind of
00:17:55.240 a nightmare especially with a kid and uh
00:17:58.400 there's just pressure around the
00:17:59.799 holidays and then all of your childhood
00:18:01.440 triggers come up when you're on family
00:18:03.440 you know um so my I'm more thinking
00:18:06.520 about the holiday season this year is
00:18:08.400 like how do I have my brain and my
00:18:11.159 emotions and my mindset in the most
00:18:14.039 optimal place ever to go into the
00:18:15.840 holiday season um and like I don't have
00:18:18.559 the same experience with alcohol that
00:18:19.960 you have but I definitely know that it
00:18:23.840 doesn't help an anxious situation it
00:18:26.039 doesn't help when you need to be like on
00:18:29.200 it cognitively um so you know I I'll
00:18:32.840 probably have like a glass wine or
00:18:34.080 something but I am thinking more about
00:18:36.480 this holiday season of like how can I
00:18:37.799 get my mindset in the best place
00:18:39.200 possible like I'm going to exercise
00:18:40.520 every day I'm definitely going to do my
00:18:42.280 I'm definitely going to do my journaling
00:18:44.559 and like set intentions for every day
00:18:46.400 during the holidays and um I'm curious
00:18:49.039 how you're if you have the same triggers
00:18:51.559 for holidays or just how you're thinking
00:18:53.080 about it yeah what came up for me was
00:18:54.919 like you of course still want to enjoy
00:18:56.880 it and like be present and not be so
00:18:59.000 like you know focused on yourself but I
00:19:01.600 think it's important to put yourself in
00:19:04.640 like your you know the habits that make
00:19:07.039 you feel good first so that you can show
00:19:10.039 up for your family like yeah and your
00:19:12.600 best self so um yeah I mean that's like
00:19:16.640 kind of gets into boundaries and stuff
00:19:19.080 but
00:19:20.080 um yeah like setting boundaries around I
00:19:23.240 have to do these things and I can't do
00:19:26.039 these things and but I want to spend
00:19:27.919 time with you in in these ways you know
00:19:30.880 yeah like I'm really happy to be there
00:19:32.480 with you for Thanksgiving um but here
00:19:35.240 are the days that I can be there and I'm
00:19:37.840 going to do every morning and I'm going
00:19:39.720 to do this for myself and maybe you
00:19:41.280 don't have to like say all this but
00:19:42.760 you're right like boundaries are really
00:19:44.120 important at least and really boundaries
00:19:45.760 are just deals you make with yourself
00:19:48.559 you're not expecting anyone else to
00:19:49.880 behave a certain way necessarily you're
00:19:52.000 just you're making the boundary with
00:19:53.559 yourself to say if this happens I will
00:19:56.000 leave if this happens I am going to get
00:19:59.960 up and remove myself yeah you know MH
00:20:02.640 the boundaries aren't even about
00:20:04.600 somebody else's Behavior necessarily
00:20:06.400 they're about what you're going to do in
00:20:08.480 response to certain situations and like
00:20:10.960 your time limits or or whatever so um I
00:20:14.080 don't know that's just how how I'm
00:20:15.400 thinking about it yeah I think I want to
00:20:17.080 be intentional about how I'm spending
00:20:20.240 like I feel like last holiday season I
00:20:22.360 didn't I wasn't very intentional about
00:20:24.400 anything like I just kind of going
00:20:26.400 through the motions and it like you have
00:20:28.760 a lot more like Logistics and family and
00:20:32.200 things but like around like the holidays
00:20:34.360 I I have like kind of a relative I mean
00:20:36.360 like a
00:20:37.159 small uh amount of people that I like
00:20:39.280 spend the holidays with like it's pretty
00:20:41.440 simple um but I so I think I just kind
00:20:43.880 of like go with went with the flow
00:20:45.640 whatever and I really want to get more
00:20:46.919 intentional about like spending how I'm
00:20:49.240 spending my time with my family and like
00:20:52.080 um and the things I want to do and
00:20:55.760 rather than just like kind of being
00:20:56.919 there and going with the flow I want
00:20:58.120 want to like get really intentional and
00:21:02.000 have certain like experiences with my
00:21:05.120 family make memories yeah not anxiety
00:21:08.480 yep so let's see what else has happened
00:21:10.840 for me the last couple of months I
00:21:12.159 started a new job a few months ago mhm
00:21:16.000 and that has been a really interesting
00:21:19.120 and fun experience I started a new job
00:21:23.039 after taking a couple months off and
00:21:24.840 previously to that leaving a situation
00:21:27.480 that had me
00:21:28.840 more burnt out than I've ever been in my
00:21:30.520 entire life and I was feeling the worst
00:21:32.480 that I have I didn't realize it maybe in
00:21:34.520 the moment until the very end when I was
00:21:36.520 about to break but I felt worse then
00:21:39.320 than I had felt in a really long time
00:21:41.480 and like I wasn't being creative anymore
00:21:43.600 and I wasn't really thinking beyond what
00:21:45.880 was in front of me day to-day that I had
00:21:47.480 to accomplish which is so not me um and
00:21:50.240 so I left and took that time off and
00:21:51.799 then took this new job and I have a lot
00:21:54.320 of responsibility um I'm leading revenue
00:21:56.799 for a tech startup
00:21:58.760 and the the journey from like day one of
00:22:02.520 starting to now um has been a little bit
00:22:08.080 of like an emotional roller coaster I
00:22:10.400 think the first couple of weeks I was
00:22:13.039 overwhelmed with the amount of
00:22:14.039 information I was consuming and then a
00:22:16.200 little bit taken back by how many
00:22:18.480 decisions I personally had to make M
00:22:21.600 because I got the job because I was
00:22:23.640 qualified and I got the job because I I
00:22:26.679 do know what I'm doing but it to be the
00:22:28.919 person in the position of like what
00:22:32.360 direction do we take how what do we do
00:22:34.480 how do we do this um I was kind of like
00:22:36.840 Paralyzed by probably for three to four
00:22:39.360 weeks um and I questioned myself so much
00:22:42.919 and I kept asking myself like are they
00:22:44.320 seriously asking me this question I
00:22:46.880 don't know any I don't know how to do
00:22:48.600 that and it's like yeah you do actually
00:22:50.360 know how to do that you maybe have never
00:22:51.600 been the end end like decision maker
00:22:54.440 before but you do know how to do that
00:22:56.559 yeah um so that has been a nice journey
00:23:01.000 to overcome and I feel a lot more
00:23:02.200 confident now like three three months
00:23:03.640 into the job I'm like you know what
00:23:05.919 you're talking about girl like be be
00:23:09.400 thoughtful critically think like you
00:23:11.400 always do you will make the right
00:23:13.120 decision and so I've had that pivot for
00:23:15.360 myself do you feel like that's like a
00:23:16.760 write of Passage into any new like role
00:23:20.080 or something that's new is that you're
00:23:22.039 going to question yourself in the
00:23:23.200 beginning or do you think you could have
00:23:24.760 bypassed that I I think it means you
00:23:27.960 hook the right job and opportunity if
00:23:29.799 you're out of your comfort zone you're
00:23:31.760 stretching your brain in a way that it
00:23:33.559 hasn't been stretched in a while and
00:23:35.120 though you might have like the
00:23:36.440 foundation to come to the right answer
00:23:38.640 or to know what you're doing or to
00:23:40.039 succeed in this role maybe the way it's
00:23:42.320 framed or the the context in which you
00:23:45.200 have to apply it is different at a new
00:23:46.840 job but that is such a good thing like
00:23:48.919 if you're stretching your brain in a new
00:23:51.240 way you're adding to your skill set
00:23:52.880 you're adding to the how Dynamic you are
00:23:55.400 you're becoming like an agile in my in
00:23:57.279 my case becoming an agile leader yeah
00:24:00.799 for small Tech a tech small Tech startup
00:24:04.679 and that I think it's dangerous actually
00:24:07.240 to just keep staying in your comfort
00:24:08.640 zone yeah I don't think it's possible to
00:24:10.400 start a new job or take on new
00:24:13.400 responsibilities without you know
00:24:15.600 questioning yourself and trying to and
00:24:17.200 if you did that means that you already
00:24:18.440 know exactly what you're doing and maybe
00:24:19.840 you you that wasn't the right role to
00:24:21.840 stretch and
00:24:23.200 grow so I've been thinking about that a
00:24:25.559 lot lately um it took me you know I'm
00:24:28.039 three months into it and I'm just now
00:24:29.640 feeling super confident um about what
00:24:32.960 I'm doing but it also brings me to this
00:24:35.320 topic we were talking about yesterday
00:24:36.919 the gut feeling oh yeah versus critical
00:24:39.240 thinking MH and I had never thought
00:24:41.919 about it this way but someone pointed
00:24:43.320 out to me hey you just said that that
00:24:45.640 was a gut feeling and that was intuition
00:24:48.000 are you sure it wasn't just that you
00:24:49.279 like critically thought about it and
00:24:50.399 you're intelligent and you have the
00:24:51.399 tools to like come to the right answer
00:24:53.640 but it made me like do you know what I'm
00:24:54.880 saying yeah it's super interesting it
00:24:56.480 made me think about how over how much we
00:24:58.720 overuse oh it was just my gut I had this
00:25:01.399 like feeling this intuition yeah I think
00:25:04.159 maybe sometimes there's a combination of
00:25:06.200 of them both as well like you're like I
00:25:09.200 have this gut feeling let's let's look
00:25:11.919 at the now let's think about it
00:25:13.880 realistically let's do like a pros and
00:25:15.679 cons or you know let's let's figure out
00:25:18.440 the logistics of it and but you still
00:25:20.159 know in your gut like what you want to
00:25:22.559 do but then you back it up by doing like
00:25:25.159 the math you know yeah so sometimes
00:25:27.880 turns into like a combination of both it
00:25:29.760 probably most of the time is a
00:25:30.919 combination of both yeah and everyone
00:25:33.399 just just says like I had theut feeling
00:25:35.919 yeah I think like maybe it's used when
00:25:38.159 we're being lazy too yeah and we don't
00:25:40.480 want to explain how we came to an answer
00:25:42.200 oh it's my gut yeah true you don't want
00:25:44.880 to explain all the reasons why you made
00:25:46.679 that decision or whatever it was or
00:25:49.320 maybe you don't actually consciously
00:25:50.640 know why you made the decision but you
00:25:52.279 you could figure it out if you sat there
00:25:53.720 and thought about it yeah that's true I
00:25:55.760 don't know any who like I'm just going
00:25:58.559 to be conscious of when I use that term
00:26:02.559 a little bit I think I know now I am too
00:26:05.120 anytime I'm like it's a gut feeling I'm
00:26:06.520 like wait is it is it a gut feeling or
00:26:08.679 do I just know the answer yeah or am I
00:26:11.080 or am I actually smart yeah is that my
00:26:13.720 brain talking or my heart talking I like
00:26:15.840 how Marin put it the head thinking or
00:26:17.559 the heart thinking yeah um let's see
00:26:20.840 what else in the last couple of months
00:26:22.760 uh this podcast has become something
00:26:25.240 that we weren't exactly expecting it to
00:26:26.760 become mhm yeah which is really cool
00:26:29.360 yeah number 230 on the charts in Ireland
00:26:32.679 baby shout out to our Ireland
00:26:35.960 listeners please keep listening that's
00:26:38.159 so fun let's get to 229 I'm you are you
00:26:41.080 Irish I'm half Irish I think I'm a
00:26:42.960 little bit I've got a touch our
00:26:44.399 ancestors yeah
00:26:46.720 oh supporting us yeah we were so
00:26:50.440 confused at what we were doing even two
00:26:52.000 months ago yeah I mean aren't we always
00:26:55.919 aren't we always
00:26:58.120 and I think slightly delusional to think
00:27:01.600 that we could just start having
00:27:04.200 conversations with women and people
00:27:06.679 would actually want to listen to that
00:27:08.320 yeah um but you know if you not
00:27:10.159 delusional you're not living yeah honey
00:27:12.679 mm the culu is to be dulu that's like my
00:27:16.120 new favorite say I know I keep thinking
00:27:18.360 about that the culu is to be dulu yeah
00:27:21.760 and shoot your shot Fridays yes oh we
00:27:24.440 should talk about that and we need to do
00:27:26.039 it today I have a lot of things I need
00:27:27.360 to a lot of shots I need to shoot yeah
00:27:29.840 um shoot your shot Friday is something
00:27:31.240 that we've been doing uh these like
00:27:34.760 tasks or asks or emails that need to be
00:27:38.960 sent or invites to but things that you
00:27:42.880 feel like you're shooting your shot like
00:27:45.080 you don't expect them to even see your
00:27:47.600 message it's called shoot your shot
00:27:49.640 Fridays so that could mean anything for
00:27:52.000 anyone and we're kind of combining the
00:27:53.919 two like we're doing the Power Hour
00:27:56.960 combined with with shoter shot Friday I
00:27:58.720 think we took like an hour last time to
00:28:00.399 do it and combo it's like a yeah habit
00:28:03.760 stacking
00:28:05.440 yeah supercharged like yeah it's worked
00:28:09.679 though I mean every time we've done a
00:28:11.519 shoot your shot Friday something
00:28:13.120 positive has come have has come out of
00:28:15.000 it yeah I think if it's Friday you just
00:28:17.799 got you have to choose one thing and
00:28:19.120 shoot your shot something that you've
00:28:21.000 thought about that's crazy and just do
00:28:23.279 it yeah send that a cold email I have
00:28:26.279 something I'm gonna do today yeah I I
00:28:29.080 can always shoot a
00:28:31.080 shot I think we have some questions oh
00:28:33.760 yeah we have questions from our question
00:28:35.159 from our from our two listeners in
00:28:36.760 Ireland so okay so the first
00:28:40.640 question that we have is from um Taylor
00:28:43.840 she said I want to hear your why what's
00:28:46.679 driving you to keep hustling for more
00:28:49.440 first of all thank
00:28:51.559 you she's flattering us it's kind of
00:28:55.799 like not about like the business or like
00:28:59.440 making more money or that kind of thing
00:29:01.720 or you know starting a new project when
00:29:03.640 I already have a business like I I think
00:29:06.600 I've had some friends be like why are
00:29:08.440 you just adding more on your plate and
00:29:11.799 it's kind of I mean it's like we talked
00:29:13.440 about like passion it's that it's like
00:29:16.640 kind of the pursuit of self-growth and
00:29:19.200 professional growth and it's just human
00:29:22.720 nature to never feel like satisfied it's
00:29:26.159 not like you're ever going to get to
00:29:27.519 point where you're like all right we're
00:29:29.799 done here yep logging off but um so I
00:29:35.840 don't know it's just kind of like a
00:29:37.200 natural evolution of things I think for
00:29:39.399 me and it's just kind of following what
00:29:42.840 what's looks fun and exciting and um not
00:29:46.840 worrying too much about like how it's
00:29:49.360 going to what it's going to result in or
00:29:52.480 if it's going to succeed or not but just
00:29:54.120 doing it because it's fun and exciting
00:29:57.320 so you've kind of shifted it as you
00:29:59.039 don't feel like necessarily you're
00:30:00.320 hustling because you're doing something
00:30:01.480 that is fun for you yeah I don't feel
00:30:03.120 like it's hustling I think the word
00:30:05.080 hustling to me means um things that I
00:30:09.039 don't know hustling to me sounds not fun
00:30:11.039 it sounds like cold calls and cold door
00:30:13.840 knocking or like Sals I don't know
00:30:16.720 that's what hustling sounds like to me
00:30:18.799 uh but I mean that probably looks
00:30:20.080 different for everyone this is more like
00:30:21.799 fun like this is actually like more just
00:30:24.840 like doing fun exciting things I think
00:30:28.679 yeah I I actually agree with you I've
00:30:30.880 never identified as a hustler cuz I I
00:30:34.559 think that I work really strategically
00:30:38.240 and smart I don't like overwork myself
00:30:41.480 of course I have been there I have been
00:30:42.679 burnt out before I um and I do work very
00:30:45.679 hard like I'm not trying to um discredit
00:30:47.720 my work ethic because I'm very
00:30:49.159 consistent I'm very
00:30:50.480 self-motivated um but I agree with you
00:30:53.799 it doesn't to me feel like hustling and
00:30:56.840 that's such an interesting point because
00:30:58.240 I think from the
00:30:59.279 outside uh it probably looks like
00:31:03.399 hustling and I have no idea how those
00:31:04.840 two girls have time for a full-time job
00:31:08.679 a new business that they're growing
00:31:11.760 friends family a child Wellness a child
00:31:15.760 and like I do all of those things and
00:31:19.480 it's because I want to not because I
00:31:22.519 feel like I have to um and so it's fun
00:31:25.679 like I love figuring out like the
00:31:27.840 perfect routine for myself at home so
00:31:30.679 that I feel my best and I look my best
00:31:33.760 and I am a good friend and I'm a good
00:31:35.919 partner I I love fig like hacking those
00:31:37.919 things and figuring out how to do it I
00:31:39.480 love figuring out how to be amazing in
00:31:41.039 my full-time job without feeling
00:31:42.919 terrible and overstressed and I love
00:31:45.519 figuring out this business for sure um
00:31:48.760 so yeah I agree it doesn't feel like I'm
00:31:49.960 hustling but I do know what my
00:31:51.039 motivation is to do all these things and
00:31:53.120 it's that I want to I want to contribute
00:32:03.639 ayf and us and for us that is women that
00:32:07.399 want to achieve a lot in their life and
00:32:10.679 they want to optimize their performance
00:32:12.840 they want to optimize their happiness
00:32:14.559 and their fulfillment there there are so
00:32:18.440 many things that just are not openly
00:32:21.679 talked about and there are so many ways
00:32:24.120 that people achieve success that are not
00:32:26.080 just like at your finger tips to go
00:32:27.600 figure out M and I I just feel like I
00:32:30.519 want my
00:32:32.039 contribution in this life to be that I
00:32:35.320 made somebody else's Journey To Success
00:32:37.440 a little easier yeah and I feel so
00:32:40.080 strongly about that and I and I love
00:32:41.720 what you said about like this is fun
00:32:44.440 because it's a journey of self-growth
00:32:45.679 for me too I agree like all of these
00:32:48.080 conversations that we're having I am
00:32:50.000 learning and growing from and it's an
00:32:51.880 amazing feeling and it's an even more
00:32:53.440 amazing feeling that we're sharing that
00:32:54.679 with other people and other people are
00:32:56.320 probably learning and growing too um so
00:32:58.760 it that gives me a lot of energy yeah it
00:33:01.399 fills my cup for sure it's also like an
00:33:04.720 expression of yourself as well like it's
00:33:07.880 a way that we can express ourselves and
00:33:09.960 build something outside of us but I love
00:33:12.880 that I love everything you said I think
00:33:14.880 too like what you said too
00:33:17.200 about contributing and opening up like
00:33:20.720 conversations and stuff for me too it's
00:33:22.960 like I have with um having coffee and
00:33:27.840 contracts and having my business it can
00:33:30.320 feel very lonely when you're just doing
00:33:32.279 it by yourself and this has given me a
00:33:34.440 lot more sense of like a kind of
00:33:36.639 community of like people doing similar
00:33:38.799 things and business owners and stuff
00:33:40.440 like that and I don't know so I think I
00:33:43.399 like part of me just wants to kind of
00:33:44.880 like have those conversations that like
00:33:47.639 I've been for the past few years like in
00:33:50.720 my head asking these questions and stuff
00:33:52.799 it's nice to like I feel like other
00:33:55.159 business owners who are kind of feeling
00:33:57.240 lonely or having the same thoughts and
00:33:59.880 stuff and I kind of want to like have
00:34:01.880 those conversations like you said and
00:34:04.080 and you know create a platform for that
00:34:07.399 but like the motivation of why you do
00:34:09.280 anything is interesting to dig into and
00:34:11.639 like get really honest with yourself
00:34:12.839 about why I do my full-time job well I
00:34:15.839 find it really fascinating and
00:34:17.079 interesting but I do that because I it's
00:34:20.280 lucrative and I want a certain lifestyle
00:34:24.000 so I'm going to maintain a full-time job
00:34:25.800 to do that that I that I like and I feel
00:34:28.399 very fortunate that I've found something
00:34:29.719 that I'm actually more passionate about
00:34:31.000 and I think also combines like my skill
00:34:33.359 set and my passions um much better than
00:34:35.800 anything that I've done before and I'm
00:34:37.639 learning so much I think that's the
00:34:39.839 other motivation for me too is like I'm
00:34:42.839 just a that's so silly to say and I
00:34:44.639 actually don't even like this phrase
00:34:45.639 like a student of life but I love I
00:34:48.040 consume so much information every day
00:34:50.040 and week and I I love it it like fuels
00:34:53.119 me and so this is another this is I
00:34:55.520 think that we're learning we've keep
00:34:57.040 saying that but like we're learning a
00:34:58.200 lot and this is more information that
00:34:59.760 we're consuming that we wouldn't have
00:35:01.000 access to if we wouldn't have started
00:35:02.359 this yeah and that is so motivating MH
00:35:05.880 yeah absolutely yeah and I think you
00:35:07.800 talk you like touched on something too
00:35:09.359 is like you have a certain lifestyle
00:35:10.800 that you want to live as well and I
00:35:12.320 don't want to say like it's all like oh
00:35:14.520 you know I just want to make an impact
00:35:16.160 like it's also yeah money's great too
00:35:19.000 it's also a big
00:35:20.400 motivator yeah and I want to create a
00:35:23.760 lifestyle for my kids and I want to be
00:35:26.000 able to
00:35:27.520 like honestly make their I want to make
00:35:30.160 their life set up to where they can do
00:35:32.440 what they love and not have to make
00:35:34.200 decisions for moneymaking purposes
00:35:37.240 necessarily and like I will definitely
00:35:39.880 raise some kids that are hard workers
00:35:41.760 and can make an impact and do good in
00:35:43.680 the world and be amazing people but
00:35:45.920 wouldn't it be cool if like they didn't
00:35:47.599 even have to choose to take the job that
00:35:50.440 sucked their soul out because it paid
00:35:52.040 well mhm and they had in instead
00:35:54.520 instilled in them like these values of
00:35:57.040 like creating a life that they love and
00:35:59.480 that feels fulfilling and that they're
00:36:00.760 making an impact and like they just know
00:36:02.520 that they have the ability to do that I
00:36:03.880 think that that's really cool yeah
00:36:05.599 absolutely so our next question um
00:36:09.920 is they well I asked if they had any
00:36:12.920 questions or any topics so this one kind
00:36:15.000 of seems more of like a topic um but
00:36:17.960 self-doubt when starting your own
00:36:20.520 business o why don't you kick that one
00:36:23.920 off yeah so I have like a few a few
00:36:27.119 thoughts that come up for this um which
00:36:31.119 first of all I would say it's totally
00:36:33.119 normal to feel self-doubt when you're
00:36:36.480 doing something new which we just kind
00:36:37.920 of talked about like I it's kind of the
00:36:41.240 very natural thing right of passage when
00:36:43.119 you're doing something new it feels
00:36:45.240 uncomfortable um but I think the advice
00:36:47.760 that I would give to this person is to
00:36:49.240 try to which I know it's easier said
00:36:51.480 than done and it's going to take some
00:36:53.560 practice it's not just going to be like
00:36:55.720 you know immediate
00:36:57.240 but to look at your self doubts and the
00:37:00.839 doubts that you're having and reframe
00:37:03.720 them into like opportunities or
00:37:07.359 questions so like if you're
00:37:09.760 thinking uh gosh I'm posting on social
00:37:12.800 media nobody's like liking what I'm
00:37:14.640 posting you can turn it into like how
00:37:17.880 like this is a cool learning experience
00:37:19.960 how can I figure out what my audience
00:37:22.319 wants to hear about and start looking
00:37:25.440 just reframing everything into like more
00:37:27.800 of an experiment and less of like oh my
00:37:30.800 gosh what if I fail but like instead
00:37:33.440 saying like let's figure out if this is
00:37:35.960 going to work and like looking at it
00:37:37.800 with a different kind of mindset that's
00:37:41.000 what kind of came up for me there yeah
00:37:43.520 that's a really really great reframe
00:37:45.800 yeah it makes it more uh action oriented
00:37:49.240 and learning focused than like anxiety
00:37:51.720 ridden and like paralyzing yeah and it's
00:37:53.440 much easier said than none I think
00:37:54.640 another thing too that I want want to
00:37:56.800 mention is that for me whenever I think
00:37:59.280 about like when I started my business I
00:38:01.040 I'm not like immediately thinking like I
00:38:03.440 had so much self-doubt when I was
00:38:05.280 starting my business I was just doing it
00:38:07.960 like for fun so it was an experiment and
00:38:10.160 so maybe that's why it worked like I was
00:38:11.960 just like let's just see if this works
00:38:14.000 and like let's just keep doing this and
00:38:15.520 it's fun BL la la and then it turned
00:38:17.440 into a business and then I was like oh
00:38:19.520 okay I got to figure out how to turn
00:38:22.240 continue this and keep it going and make
00:38:24.240 it a business and when that process
00:38:26.839 started happening that's when the
00:38:27.960 self-doubt started coming in and I the
00:38:31.720 biggest trigger of self-doubt for me is
00:38:34.599 social media and seeing competitors or
00:38:39.760 other people in like the same space or
00:38:41.760 whatever just like seeing what they're
00:38:43.720 doing seeing their highlight re on
00:38:45.240 social media every day and just
00:38:47.520 instantly comparing myself to them yeah
00:38:49.920 so I would say if you're struggling with
00:38:51.280 self-doubt delete your social media apps
00:38:53.480 and just upload from your computer when
00:38:56.240 you need to promote your business or
00:38:58.200 like download the app when you need to
00:38:59.760 post a story I still do this I still
00:39:02.359 catch myself seeing a competitors post
00:39:05.200 pop up and being like Oh my gosh they're
00:39:06.640 so smart and creative and they're
00:39:09.400 amazing and I suck and um and it's so
00:39:12.599 natural I'm sure everyone does it yeah
00:39:15.000 and um so I would say just delete the
00:39:18.319 apps yeah delete the apps I have done
00:39:20.800 that a few times you I think you were
00:39:22.319 the first one that inspired me to do it
00:39:24.079 no social Saturday well also also you're
00:39:28.119 the things that you are
00:39:29.720 consuming in social media are impacting
00:39:33.319 you the same way if not more than like
00:39:35.319 the food you consume and so thinking
00:39:38.240 about it like a diet and there I mean I
00:39:40.800 think there's like a term uh content
00:39:43.000 diet and it's basically you being as
00:39:46.440 conscious of what you're consuming via
00:39:48.839 social platforms as the things you're
00:39:51.040 putting into your body and consuming and
00:39:53.480 there is a direct correlation in how
00:39:54.960 you're going to feel in both of those
00:39:56.079 categ ories and there there it is no
00:39:58.040 different if anything like the things
00:39:59.520 you're consuming affect your brain more
00:40:00.839 instantly than the food that you're
00:40:02.200 eating and so something that I have done
00:40:05.480 is unfollowed and deleted a lot of
00:40:08.920 people or accounts that don't trigger
00:40:13.359 like energy and happiness in me and I
00:40:15.960 don't want that to be in my face yeah I
00:40:18.400 want to look if I'm going to if I'm
00:40:20.000 thinking if I'm being really honest like
00:40:21.640 the the things I follow now are like
00:40:24.400 business accounts that I find or
00:40:26.720 inspiring or they teach me something
00:40:28.640 people in my life that I that are
00:40:30.160 actually in my life and that I love um
00:40:32.440 and that I wouldn't compare myself to or
00:40:34.079 I know they're not comparing themselves
00:40:35.280 to me um and then maybe like health and
00:40:38.400 wellness things that's pretty much it
00:40:40.640 and I only want to consume those things
00:40:42.079 and I feel really good now from that
00:40:44.119 that's great yeah yeah for me it's like
00:40:46.440 I just have to stay off of it sometimes
00:40:48.359 cuz I can my mind is sneaky and it'll
00:40:50.920 compare it'll compare me to
00:40:53.240 anyone oh that's funny I think for uh so
00:40:56.599 my my what came up for me in that
00:40:58.480 question like the self-doubt and
00:40:59.640 starting a business um all related to to
00:41:02.400 gateless and I think the biggest um
00:41:04.280 trigger for me of self-doubt was at the
00:41:06.760 beginning when we were trying to figure
00:41:08.480 out what this community represents and
00:41:11.520 what this business is and when people
00:41:14.119 would ask me so like what is it but like
00:41:16.160 what is it and I kept feeling like
00:41:18.160 people were trying to put me in a box or
00:41:20.760 put this this concept in a box and we
00:41:23.520 didn't yet know what box it was in and
00:41:25.520 so it really Trigg I was I was like I
00:41:27.359 don't know I don't know and it's people
00:41:29.520 I love that ask it and it is not at all
00:41:32.119 they I'm not like that is not the
00:41:34.680 self-doubt is coming from myself not
00:41:36.200 from them but that question is really
00:41:39.000 triggering when you know you have an
00:41:40.560 idea and an energy for something and you
00:41:42.880 know you can make an impact and create
00:41:44.400 something amazing but you don't know how
00:41:45.920 to describe it yet or you don't know how
00:41:47.520 to it how it will tangibly form into
00:41:50.480 something that people consume and that
00:41:52.760 question is just like stop putting me in
00:41:54.440 a box like I don't know what this is yet
00:41:56.440 like I like didn't tell anyone we were
00:41:58.240 doing this and then my mom was like I
00:41:59.800 saw you like did a podcast or something
00:42:02.440 and I didn't tell her at first and I was
00:42:05.200 like yeah just I'll tell you about it
00:42:08.040 later like I'm like well you know cuz
00:42:10.040 you didn't know how to describe it yet
00:42:11.240 yeah I'm like I'll just show you just
00:42:13.280 follow us on Instagram yeah and it t it
00:42:16.319 really takes a while to get clear I
00:42:17.800 think on what you're doing in a concept
00:42:19.319 and so that really it I it created a lot
00:42:22.040 of self-doubt in me am I talking about I
00:42:24.400 don't know when people ask me about like
00:42:25.880 what do for work with I remember when I
00:42:27.960 moved into an apartment building I think
00:42:29.640 everyone in that building thought I was
00:42:30.880 very weird cuz they'd be like they were
00:42:33.359 like the first question they're like
00:42:34.680 What's your name and I'm like Haley and
00:42:36.160 they're like what do you do for work and
00:42:37.599 I'd be like um like I would just get be
00:42:40.839 like um real estate marketing like I
00:42:43.400 would just like I never knew what to say
00:42:45.160 yeah but um I still so I'm still like I
00:42:48.040 don't know and I still don't have like
00:42:49.760 an exact answer when someone says what
00:42:51.359 do you do I know four years later and
00:42:53.319 you have a multi-million dollar business
00:42:54.800 and you're still saying I don't know
00:42:55.839 what I I'm like um real I just say real
00:42:58.280 estate marketing and they're like so you
00:42:59.520 help agents promote their listings I'm
00:43:01.160 like yeah yeah sure not really but yeah
00:43:04.800 well also part of that is that you don't
00:43:06.760 H you have no obligation to give the
00:43:08.440 energy to like go into a great detail
00:43:10.280 with everybody like you need your
00:43:11.599 elevator pitch like who cares you know
00:43:14.160 what you do yeah well this was really
00:43:16.319 fun we're going to we're going to do
00:43:17.960 more I really like these uh solo episode
00:43:20.760 formats because I feel like there's so
00:43:22.960 much especially at this phase in
00:43:24.880 building this business for us to reflect
00:43:27.440 on and debrief with each other we got a
00:43:29.400 lot to unpack we have a lot to unpack
00:43:31.559 both personally and professionally and
00:43:33.760 again like we are two women that are
00:43:37.480 doing a lot and building a business on
00:43:40.359 the side and we take you on that journey
00:43:43.280 and like that's the whole purpose of
00:43:44.280 these is just to connect further with um
00:43:46.440 each other and the audience and get just
00:43:49.480 you know break open the door to to
00:43:51.480 what's really going on in our head
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