The Rollback Show
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The Rollback Show
JusttNick + Nxventura + Vroom
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Step into the dynamic world of car meets with Vroom, the sharpshooting sensation who's turning heads and challenging stereotypes. As a woman dominating the scene, Vroom story is just the beginning of a thrilling ride through the history and heartbeat of local car culture. Join us in paying tribute to legends like Bobby of the 312 crew and celebrating the extraordinary figures, like Papa Poseidon, who fuel the community's soul with their unwavering support.
From the charged atmosphere of Christmas meets to the arresting story of Varglo's graffiti encounter with the CPD, we explore the threads that weave together the tapestry of this vibrant scene. The episode is a candid snapshot, capturing the essence of community unity, the respect owed to photographers, and the shared frustrations when art is co-opted without credit. Our conversation traverses through laughter and nostalgia, heartfelt stories, and the palpable energy of the streets that we all treasure.
We round off with a dive into the gravity of our passion, examining the nuances of car takeovers, the troubling rise in reckless behavior, and the role of law enforcement in shaping community dynamics. With insights on the VVS game , and reflections on safety and crime in the district, this episode is not just a discussion—it's an homage to the culture that drives us. Tune in for an authentic glimpse into the multifaceted world of car culture, where every anecdote and opinion fuels the engine of our collective story.
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I am now. Yeah so Yo yo yo, it's your boy. The hood floors and y'all tuning in to the motherfucking rollback show. I got just Nick to the left of me, but wait a minute, wait a fucking minute. Out there in TV land we got motherfucking VVS and room in this bitch and I just found out room is a woman G like what I Been. I've been talking to this account Since last year thinking it's a nigga.
Speaker 1Everyone thinks that, literally everyone, until they're like hey bro, can I get these clips? I'm like, I'm not a bro.
Speaker 2Gee so. So this is crazy. Like One of the hardest shooters in the city is a woman.
Speaker 4This is like real, real special for me, because this dude Gave me like man, I don't know what to say. Man, you got me on there. There's no my heart ain't beating right, you want.
Speaker 2This motherfucker was lacking in the fall, baking a cake with with the wife.
Speaker 4Pounding on the window like the fucking pole. I didn't even pout, I did a no.
Speaker 2Yeah, okay it was not but anyway it was like a faux peas log.
Speaker 4This dude VVS. He was like a big inspiration because he's one of the first accounts that I ever saw. When I started doing this takeover Stuff me. I was like holy shit, dude, this dude's a shooter. And back then there weren't many camera man out there. Huh, no, it was basically you.
Speaker 5That was it. No, it was like maybe three, four. It's that and then it wasn't even like people really shooting right right, it was just cell phone videos, really we're just enjoying it at that moment, right?
Speaker 4So this is real crazy for me.
Speaker 2G like like this history in the making. First off. I'm happy, just puts ass, nigga. Nick pulled up like cuz.
Speaker 4What honky-ton. No, you don't get along bro.
Speaker 2Yeah, fuck Orlando any who. Any who it ain't. No, it like it's the old love, but it's fuck, orlando. Like it took me nine months to get my hoodie. Like fuck.
Speaker 4Orlando oh.
Speaker 2He had the motherfucking go men in the cotton and shit, like he was in the field picking cotton for this. It was summertime when I got my shit like yeah, so it's always, I'm always talk my shit. That's just me like but yeah, I'm still, I'm still stoned off that you are a girl.
Speaker 1You're shook Right now.
Speaker 2Yes.
Speaker 1Yeah, every like I'm telling you everyone, I Don't, I don't even know when I had told you I was a girl. Like, did you know? I did you know it was a girl?
Speaker 4No, you came up to me talking and then I was a Bobby at the time. Yeah, you were just like I'm room and I was like huh.
Speaker 1They way I Told them ain't no way. Yeah, I told him, I was room and he's like oh, wait, you was with which, bobby.
Speaker 2Little little white boy Bobby little.
Speaker 4Bobby before the times the start of the.
Speaker 1I'm gonna say it right now. The start haven't been the same since Bobby left hey the so so so the start of three, the, the originator of three ones. Yes, the originator.
Speaker 4Rio. Rio didn't have nothing to do with it either.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, of course. I mean, they were like a team together. Okay but you know, I guess, but Bobby Bobby.
Speaker 2Bobby put from what I'm getting from the history of this shit. Bobby Created 312 crew. I will say that yeah, like Bobby and then everybody motherfucking Joined up and it was all under one umbrella.
Speaker 1And then like he was like on his shit, like he was like only like 15 at the time, maybe when I first saw this dude dude, I was like where's your, where's your pants? He look, the thing is the thing is like sometimes, like he'd be, like he like I gotta call my mom real quick and I'm Bobby. It's like 2 am.
Speaker 2Right, he's out there in it bro, just checking in mom, I'm cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, he's a cool kid, but you know, just grew.
Speaker 2Yeah. So look, y'all gotta do me a favor, y'all gotta give me Bobby on the show.
Speaker 1Oh, I will, Will call Bobby right here, real over here too.
Speaker 2I.
Speaker 4We are talking. We are talking real yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, I already talking real.
Speaker 1Oh, you're gonna get him on. Yeah, oh, cool.
Speaker 2I want a lot of old geez.
Speaker 1Oh, period oh geez, come first.
Speaker 2Like, like, like. Seniority is mean something, he's coming.
Speaker 1I love the put the he'll be a surprise guest. People, people.
Speaker 2Alright, alright, you're going government now.
Speaker 1Oh yeah.
Speaker 2We gonna put a bleep on that.
Speaker 1Number two like get them all in here. Yeah, no, I'm sorry, it's just like, yeah, they're like fam.
Speaker 2No, they are fam. Yeah, they're people and a lot of people don't even understand, like the type of dedication it takes For a father to be like, to see his son doing what he's doing and go out there and be like, well, I'm gonna be out here with you, make sure you say no one else so awesome like you've never seen no parent on the scene like that. Not, not, not with a slider. Yeah, that was back when families and shit was coming outside. After popping them left, what? No more families coming out Drinking Hennessy.
Speaker 4To say I think he was drinking whatever it was, it was brown.
Speaker 2Hey, me and Papa Poseidon got a funny story. Like the first time he invited me to the to the shop I brought a bottle of black on tequila. I drink it a lot. Is called John Basil tequila and when I get fucked up off it they call me Johnny. Bad decisions and shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it get bad, but Me and me and pops was drinking that shit. We got fucked up at the motherfuckers shop.
Speaker 2He was like man what's the name of that tequila? I gotta buy something that shit. Yeah, shout out pops shout out pops shout out po. Yeah, y'all know, y'all know I started like I named the blue roses, poseidon blues.
Speaker 1Did you? Yeah that's so sweet.
Speaker 2Before I met Poseidon in them I was gangbanging. It was gangster, gangster blues. Then I changed it to Poseidon blues. After that, cuz bro, walk me into the sink.
Speaker 1One crazy like so when'd you come in?
Speaker 2that shit.
Speaker 1Last year.
Speaker 4How'd you, how'd you get in?
Speaker 1Yeah, like what was your steps cuz like, can we talk about that? Like, what was everyone's like? How did everyone get? In here Stumble across the type shit like, so like it's so crazy, like, like, I don't we, let's go with you first. I mean, I don't know like we've been here since what 21? Right, we've been here since 21. Yeah and like it's just so weird. How it's not weird. It's just crazy, how it just like.
Speaker 2Yeah, like you got ginormous.
Speaker 1So like, how'd you hear about it?
Speaker 2But, like Initially, the first time I seen it was during the pandemic 2021 motherfuckers would be meeting up on 87. But, I'm on 87. I'm sitting there. I'm just a meetup spot. We kicking in. Then I see everybody leave, so I live on the east side, so I just go home, not knowing that y'all, that these motherfuckers is going somewhere else.
Speaker 1They don't they way the White Castles. It was always. It was always like that. Oh my god.
Speaker 2I'm like didn't have a clue about it.
Speaker 1You know what I'm saying, so Um, like the og locations the White Castle, the old foods. What was it Um?
Speaker 2it was crazy, though I cook brother. Oh, it was crazy for me, though, because Leon, literally, was, like I, not been following Leon for years, and then he started posting footage of the takeovers to his main page, and I'm like, bro, what is he said right outside my window right.
Speaker 4He was posting stuff from.
Speaker 2No, that was when he was actually walking out there and shit like he, he started dropping the actual footage he had stored up. Man, I'll say and Leon said yeah, bro, just just Just meet me, and that's what it was.
Speaker 1So you all been friends.
Speaker 2I've been first off. I've been a fan of Leon oh videography for 10 plus years. He did one of my homies, that's he did one of my homies music videos is called off with your head and my homie and that bitch playing with a pig. He, like Leon, did all the graphic work. Is fucking blood splurting every fucking way. It's like what's bro's name? Artist Boogie food. Boogie food, yeah.
Speaker 1Checking that out later.
Speaker 2Yeah, for sure. Yeah, like a lot of people don't know, that Leon was Before the takeover shit and all this shit he was. He was in the music scene heavy. He's a reason why a lot of the Chicago talent got as far as they got, because he was behind the way Like motherfuckers don't even know.
Speaker 4Leon, a closet goat.
Speaker 2Yeah, and don't even brag about it.
Speaker 1There you go. That's, that's exactly how to word it.
Speaker 5I've seen like herbal, like he posted on the story that herbal came, and I looked at his Paintings like years ago.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5That's crazy.
Speaker 2Like they used to be in here shooting music video. He's had this studio for a long time, so yeah, but how y'all getting this shit?
Speaker 1No, I just love asking questions.
Speaker 2Y'all didn't, motherfucking, put me on the spot for 10 minutes.
Speaker 1How did I get in here? Well, yeah, I was like in 2020, like 2021, like March. It was still cold out.
Speaker 2Ain't nothing like a cold takeover.
Speaker 1No, there was like there was literal times like we were outside at like fucking.
Speaker 5It was like what negative what I mean we were down 20, we were in fucking 20. We had gloves on it. It was never that Fucking dude if you're recording video, your battery would die at one spot. Yeah right 20 30 minutes battery.
Speaker 1Yeah, at lumber.
Speaker 2Yeah, but it was just like it was worth it for that 23 minutes.
Speaker 1I Hope so. I don't remember at the time. At the time I was like dude, I hate this shit. It's cold when you went back and look at that footage you know, oh yeah, like, oh, new, real, new, real, let's go get in there, yeah, but it was like first off, I'm still amazed that you are a woman.
Speaker 2Go ahead.
Speaker 1Why is everyone amazed?
Speaker 2No, no, no, there isn't women on the scene. Actually like doing shit with the cameras or none of that shit. Like, like, like, gee I was. I was literally expecting another hard leg, really.
Speaker 1Really.
Speaker 2Like I'm like I thought you knew.
Speaker 1I thought someone had told him already.
Speaker 2No no. I'm glad they didn't cuz the shock value is so much better.
Speaker 1Yeah, surprise, I'm a girl, but um yeah.
Speaker 2Cold with this camera, shit.
Speaker 1Thank you, what's?
Speaker 2crazy. I got on to you through her. I Was following room first. Sweet, no bullshit.
Speaker 5Rooms. The one, though, when it came to video like she's, the og I've been there since when it came to the real party, like party vibe reels, like made it look exciting. Yeah look like a family outside.
Speaker 2Like, like, like. I know a chick that do good reels from her camera phone, but the quality is just different.
Speaker 1Yeah, like that's that's one thing I like. Take, or pride, I guess, I don't know like it's just quality, like I like I'm still very like I Don't like post a lot now, but like back then, like that's like one thing I would always. It was just always Quality over quantity. That's why like when I would post, it'd be like, oh, like a new, like you know what I mean. Yeah it was just very like.
Speaker 2That was the wrong. It was supposed to be the round of applause and they hit the Whatever.
Favorite Memories and Photography Ethics
Speaker 1I'm fresh learning the board, Forgive me but yeah, that's kind of like Like to bring up VBS Like that's, that's where our quality, like Just quality shooters that we have in VVS, you know so so tell me something Nate like what, what, what, what.
Speaker 2What was your favorite moment? Like if you could think of any memory right now. What was your favorite memory?
Speaker 5probably my favorite memory Honestly, it's got to be the Just off the top the Christmas meets with Papa Poseidon, because those were different, like when you were outside, like Everyone felt, like they were just all together. You know what I mean. Like you have the shooters over here and then then you got pops outside. You got everyone getting hyped. He had the light flashing, people to get back. Yeah, you know, crowd control in a care like in a In a pops way.
Speaker 5Yeah, I mean like not know, like, oh, just get back, get back, they don't hit you all this, or are you know? You don't got to be looking around looking for nobody like.
Speaker 2I was the motherfucking get back, you might get hit.
Speaker 1I didn't know no better, you know what's crazy is, because you didn't know I was a girl, you would tell me all the time to get back and I was like dude, I'm, I'm just recording.
Speaker 2All the time you didn't know who I was at the time. Yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 1You're like dude, get back. And I'm like oh, just trying to record here.
Speaker 2G next time. Look, if you see me and I'm on crowd controls, flash me your camera. I'm not gonna say shit. Well, I know, I know that you're a girl now, yeah, so I'm gonna be like hey.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, I'm not your way, I'm now I'm being a stupid spectator.
Speaker 2Let me move.
Speaker 1That's so funny. That's something I always remember because, like, when he told me we were coming on to this, I was like I just remember him telling me to get back.
Speaker 2I was like I didn't, but I'm glad I know now like like to be in a room which I was legendary because, like I.
Speaker 2Y'all are definitely like some of the people that I like I paid attention to when I first got on the scene, like it was funny because it went in this order and I shit you not, it went from Leon. Then Leon introduced me to Nick and super Mike. Mike was coming, oh, jude was coming around. Well, fucking Chicago underground was coming around. Like he was around, but like I wasn't hip to his style of shooting and shit check, like, yeah, but Lee the, I was trying to make a mixtape covering. I asked Leon. I said Leon, who's one of the coldest shooters? And he was like Just Nick, just Nick got it, just Nick got it. You know what I'm saying. And I literally go Steal a picture from him because he wouldn't respond to me. I was gonna pay off for that picture, yeah, and I'm gonna fucking G Y'all remember 4.6, right, yeah, it was 4.6 doing a burnout and I literally made that my mixtape cover, but I mean my, my, my single cover.
Speaker 2But in the I Crop my, my, all my homies from my hood. I Cropped them into the smoke but you can't really see them. You know what I'm saying, but it was his, it was his photo. You could go look on Apple music right now for facts, blocked by no freelancers. Why and that's his photo that I stole made my album cover. I'm dead.
Speaker 1He takes you back after I stole it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I didn't call you on it, did I know you didn't call me out on it? You didn't call me out on it, but you responded back to me. Finally, after I stole it, and I'm like but I gave him his credit when I dropped it like photo, photo by just.
Speaker 4Nick like See, that's all it takes man some people like don't even do, go that thank you, that's what it is. If you ask me, yeah, dude, I'm gonna always tell people, yes, just give me credit, that's. I'm not asking anybody for money, just give my fucking credit.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's the worst, that's been going on since the OG times, like when, I was shooting like in 21 Like and it was only like three shooters outside. And then I came out and I was doing like the black and white stuff. I remember people started like car clubs like the old GOG ones that are no longer around. They would like screenshot my photo for my post and then they would have their own guy like edit a bunch of stuff over the photos, like just Wild stuff, and I was like that's crazy.
Speaker 1I just came over here and people already taking my work to Know, yeah, getting like getting tagged is like such a crime to everyone, like no one knows how to do it, it's just like, and then just you know what's worse than getting your photo stolen?
Speaker 4Well, getting your photo stolen and then someone tries to re-edit it.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's the worst.
Speaker 4I'll put hands out of my fucking dude.
Speaker 2I'm gonna say fuck up, too bad, cuz you ain't trying to put hands on me. I didn't change. I didn't change the the the colorway, though, cuz right you just.
Speaker 1Saturated to like it's. It's crazy and like that bar.
Speaker 2Yep, then they think they're done that once or twice and then Nick said to me eight, motherfucker. But then once I realized I'm like damn that dude, take away from the shooters work, shoot. The editing, taking the picture itself is a task, and adding in it and color grading it, that's a task and like we pay for, like those. Adobe yeah. Adobe like and it's not cheap, it's not cheap at all, like a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1Like for people to like, the least they can do is literally just tag us. You know they mean or not. Not re-edit our stuff cuz like we spent like money, time and everything like. That's all we want.
Speaker 5It's the shooters vision.
Speaker 1Yeah, there you go, the shooters vision, the shooters vision.
Speaker 3Yeah, I like that. I like that too, I like that it's the shooters vision.
Speaker 2Hey cuz. Indeed, shooters are artists too, and I don't think people recognize that like. And that's the thing about this, take over shit. Like, everybody has a art form, whether you, whether you take pictures, you shoot videos, you do drones, you motherfucking swing the car, you motherfucking host the event. The rowdy is spectator, like, and sometimes the rowdy get on my nerves, cuz you ain't gotta be that guy.
Speaker 4You ain't gotta be, that goddamn rowdy.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, there's some spectators, they just need a relax a bit. It's just never that deep.
Speaker 2I mean technically Nando, somewhat like what'd you say wild and out. Nando's like a partial swinger when he jump in the fucking, when he jumping the ring with the vixy. If he got time he would do it and do a little quick something. Then he's gone again and he's back in the middle of the pit causing chaos. He definitely didn't do that, that big-ass boat, a couple times.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, I know who you're talking about now?
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm a doll, though, so I'm gonna ask y'all this question because we really got to get back to you, because you didn't get to tell how you got here. But first I'm gonna ask y'all this question Give me y'all top three favorite swingers? Oh, of all time. It could be of Chicago only. It don't have to be Chicago only. We're not. We're not biased here, because there's a lot of fucking raw motherfuckers out here at this point and a lot, of, a lot of raw motherfuckers came and showed. They asked here at in Chicago from other places. So I can't say like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5Yeah, this bunch of car goes a hub, so yeah, like, like, like, like we've become, we've become it.
Speaker 2If it literally goes Oakland I Don't know too much about shit else in between now I'm lying Oakland, tucson, chicago Then you get the KC, then you get to like, if you, if you point out on the map, them, the, them, the spots you go, hit Texas, like you know what I'm saying. Like we, chicago has definitely become a staple in the community, yeah, and we got our own style. That's the beauty.
Speaker 5Yeah, last year really put Chicago on the map. Yeah, to a different level.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 4I wish I could go back in time. Man, I do too. Don't we all Like I?
Speaker 2really wish we could have got somewhere where I could have set up the flower cone challenge. I brought out four big-ass flower cones so motherfuckers could do rollbacks on them. I remember that specifically. Cts V Joe.
Speaker 5Yep Joe.
Speaker 2I brought them out for you, dog. Oh, legal pit, we gonna. We gonna find us a nice legal pit and we gonna make that for sure. Boxes, bring your ass to.
Speaker 4Washy washy.
Speaker 5We need the v tandem, like all all three, four of them. I think it's four of them, yeah it's four of them.
Speaker 2I ain't gonna lie to you. I want boxes to go back to, to, to, to dodge something. I could see him right now if he could get a motherfucking Of red-eyed chile manual or something Like, like, like he's a real ghetto boy. That's what he belongs. The v look good on them, but it just it ain't the same motherfucking. Act bad, too sophisticated. It ain't even too sophisticated. It's just Because the the CTS V is more of a Finesse profile and the motherfucking dodge profile you could beat on that bitch, you know what.
Speaker 5I'm saying like that's when we need more and more, more chiles that are manual.
Speaker 1Yeah, I need me a hellcat. Yeah, because it's, don't we all.
Speaker 2Because, like I'm a bo One, don't worry about it.
Speaker 4Like, and we all wait till they go up to a hundred grand yeah well, now you know, you get crepe motors out of Ohio for like 25,000.
Speaker 2They come with motor turns, All that shit they came out of wreck joints. I send y'all to details. I got I got a shield for one already. So yeah, that's, that's my next project. My chop, my charge I would had last summer. It died. I killed it chasing, chasing unknown driver, beating the motor minds off that.
Speaker 4Yeah, I'm gonna driver. If you're listening. You washed up bro washed up the omium motor. You can't, you don't got no wheel, dude that v3, though definitely was the way over dodged.
Speaker 5That v3 is beautiful.
Speaker 2No, that v3 is beautiful, but the it's not enough aggression. Yes, yeah, that's that's, that's the, that's the thing that it lacks like and that's why I say the cts v All of them is more of a finesse profile, like you can do what you do to it and it got good power and it's like, but and I'm using joe for an example, because he was the first motherfucker I ever seen going Bucket wild in that bitch yeah, like fool motherfucking.
Speaker 4You saw that silver one he had before Right. We saw videos. That thing was nasty.
Speaker 2Yeah, I saw the videos. I saw the videos. It was crazy, the very first night I seen him, he motherfucking did some and the motherfucking pipes and all the fucking flames and the fucking Wind that it spit when he hit the roll back like yeah.
Speaker 5Now, that red line is probably the best red line.
Speaker 2But that bitch, the way that motherfucker, the way that, like the way he used to swing in general, like it just looked like he was Skating on ice and and and, and that's why I say, like that fit joe Boxes, he needs some aggression. It's like a pit bull, but you took his jaw away. Why you do that? You know what? I'm saying it's nothing without the bite.
Speaker 1Yeah like you're saying like the car, like every car just, or like it just doesn't fit him. Yeah, it don't fit, yeah, there you go.
Speaker 4Some off off the fucking wall loud, because you don't give a fuck.
Speaker 2He need like, like, like, like the v is a finesse, it's, it's, it got that finesse to it. It's like over sleek, it stayed on ice. And like the dodge profile, just mean and aggressive and you know what I'm saying? Like joe, real laid back boxes, he laid back, but he's a different monster, like he don't give a fuck literally. But I'm happy that the v boys is like building the team of v's. But, hey, boxes, if you hear this, uh, go ahead and motherfucking, get me a motherfucking. Uh, for me, get another motherfucking dodge, something manual. I appreciate it. Love to see you in there. More manual, maybe we'll get him in. We'll get him in here eventually. See, everybody got to see.
Speaker 1All those v's? Are they manual? All of them? Yeah.
Speaker 5Yeah.
Speaker 1It was dope.
Speaker 2Yeah, all of manual. I'm worried off.
Speaker 4I wish sick would have came out more. I do too. I don't think he had his thing. He's got, he's had it for a while, I think, but I just don't think he ever came to the meets. Yeah, well, is that the?
Speaker 5white.
Speaker 4Yeah, we're yeah, one viral swinging outside the theater.
Speaker 5Yeah, I should have been done. I wasn't there for that should have been done with some.
Speaker 2Definitely should have been done with some shooting. But don't worry, we don't. We don't get all the v's to do the row back challenge and I'm gonna have all the shooters on calling all the og's and I'm not going to yield none of the new media and they gonna be mad. We're gonna say that for the og setup, new media ain't got nothing to get in shaw. I love y'all, but this project is for those who've been thugging it from the start.
Speaker 1Yeah, I feel like that's um Shut up.
Speaker 5No.
Speaker 7Let me shut up, I'm gonna get Speak it.
Speaker 2You have to speak it.
Speaker 4Um, you gotta hear this.
Speaker 1Like. I don't want to like.
Speaker 4Speak it, write it down. I'll say it. No, I'll say it like.
Speaker 1I'll. I'll say it like Now that you're talking about, like the new media with like the old media, it's like I don't like I don't know how to say this, but like they're like, they're like a reason why we don't really even pop out as much and like anymore. I'm speaking for me, I'm just not enough for over there, but like I feel like they like I don't want to put this, but like they make the scene look a lot different than it was before. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2You think it's the media that's making the same difference, or do you think it's the people that's?
Speaker 1following. It could be both.
Speaker 4I don't know, but I don't know they just don't tell the same story as it did before, that's kind of why I somewhat regret posting photos or like cops, cars getting Destroyed and all that stuff, because that's like the negative side of it, you know.
Speaker 2I mean, yeah, fuck the police and they deserve everything they get. Like it's people that die by police hands somewhere in this world every day. You know what I'm saying and yeah, like I'm, I'm not for the spectators destroying police property, but the times that it's happened it was well deserved. It's just, it's just the youth speaking out on the, on the oppressors, like that's how they feel. Y'all fucked us over, we're gonna fuck y'all over, why we having fun and there's nothing you can do about it. Like, all right.
Speaker 2I can't be mad at that voice. That's the streets talking back.
Speaker 5Yeah, that totally changed the scene though. It did definitely Like, really like. It's not the same like sense that state police photo that nick took.
Scary Night and Graffiti Arrest
Speaker 4And low key. I was so scared, bro, because I thought cpd was behind him on the other side of the bridge. I thought that they were gonna rush everybody, but they did.
Speaker 5I was shook. Oh gee, that's. That's when my guy varglo got locked up. They took my card at Yo. That was a crazy night, hey where is varglo?
Speaker 2Like I remember when that happened, like I, I remember looking for him like is he good?
Speaker 4What's going on? What do you get locked up for graffiti? Oh, that's right.
Speaker 5It was something little right on a bench or something, or they said like on a, on a bench and like on a bank. They said they saw him do it on a bank. I don't know, bro, it was. That was a wild night.
Speaker 2Man, look and that's another thing, lee these goddamn graffiti artists alone. It's people out here running around with guns and shit. Lee, go, go do some real police work.
Speaker 1They're just bored. I don't, I don't know, I don't know what's wrong with them.
Speaker 4When they took me for at lumber. When we got to the station they were talking mad shit and I asked them like why do you guys like fuck with like spectators and photographers? They were talking how that they're higher up, said you know they don't want them trying to grab the drivers, trying to round the drivers or Do all this and that. So they're mad that they can't really do anything, so they take it out and whoever they can't, they fucking threw me around like I'm gonna fuck her dude in that, in that cop car. Really yeah fucking.
Speaker 4Uh, what's his name? Uh, francis Egan is his name, officer Egan. Fuck you Uh. Officer tan, he's cool, the Asian dude. He's all right, he's all right, ricky tan.
Speaker 1He warned me.
Speaker 4He's like dude, we're gonna grab you. We're gonna grab you like dude.
Speaker 1No, you're not, and they're ready. They were already like on you, right?
Speaker 4Yeah, they were looking at you.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, they knew I was hey, from now on, whenever I see him, I'm gonna walk up to him and say who? The hell is Ricky tan. Oh my god yeah, that's funny, it's here, but so so you ain't never tell us how you got on the scene, how you get on the scene, or see we just bouncing?
Speaker 4around this year. Original dude.
Speaker 2Yeah, the original shooter.
Speaker 5Uh, how I got into the scene one of my guys uh, actually, motor media right here, this guy.
Speaker 2All right, he was shout out trippy. He was here last night with panda.
Speaker 5Oh, he came with panda.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 5Panda's a great guy. He would always come up that episode, that pug, all the time. But um, now he so motor media. He brought me out, uh, one night, like with some of my friends, and uh, I mean I, I didn't even know what it was, I just popped out with them because I mean, what else are we gonna do, you know?
Speaker 5Yeah and um. So that was the only night I ever popped out without my camera. You know like I. I came out. It was there a while then, right in front of the the planet fitness, I forgot what spot that is. They still use that spot.
Speaker 2I know what you tell me Is that on uh, is it pilotski?
Speaker 5It might be something um, but that, that location and uh, after that night, I definitely knew that I I have to come with my camera, and never then, ever since then, I ain't never come without it. So I've been shooting since my second meet ever. And yeah, and that was like when plump snow was out, heartless, you know, obviously Poseidon. Yeah all, all those drivers. I'm just a team bro. The team, I'm just a team bro.
Speaker 2Strictly sideways, he coming on the show.
Speaker 4No, he ain't.
Speaker 2Yes, he is no, yes, he is Merck.
Speaker 4Oh, my kids, I keep getting you a dad.
Speaker 2Yeah, I got two little, two little girls, 13 and six, but I just don't post them on social media.
Speaker 5No, that's good.
Speaker 2I don't, I don't need people in in that part of my life.
Speaker 5Now that's why people don't even know what I look like like for most part, like People don't know me, I didn't have a clue dude for two years A lot of people a lot of people don't know me and I like it, like that.
Speaker 2Hey, but Leon, the same way, nobody. Everybody knows them, but nobody knows. If you walk up on them, they won't know who the fuck he is.
Speaker 4Well, he used to two blocks away when he's filming type shit something. The old, he finally started coming up our foot, as he should be.
Speaker 5Yeah and speaking of drone guys, we had a shout out six one again super super. That's the og drone guy.
Speaker 2Hey, hey, if I could get super to come, would y'all come back and hang out with us of?
Speaker 5course I would All right, but I'll be done for that.
Speaker 2But the og. Because, because, no, we're there, because super, super don't want to get on the podcast and I'm on his ass.
Speaker 4Yeah, we're gonna go get that fool yeah.
Discussing Favorite Swingers and Community Unity
Speaker 2We're gonna kidnap him, but I think he, I think I think he would, I think he would have fun doing a podcast with a bunch of other media. Yeah, I don't think he really want to talk to no other motherfucker. But uh, yeah, man, like Wait, you told me your three, did you know?
Speaker 1my three what?
Speaker 2Top slinger.
Speaker 1That's hard. There's a lot.
Speaker 4Man, there's a lot like let's keep it local how?
Speaker 2about you.
Speaker 1I love everyone no you gotta pick three.
Speaker 2She said. I love everyone. You gotta pick three of your favorites.
Speaker 1Oh, I can't.
Speaker 5Yes, you can and take take the relationships and shit out of the. It's so easy to pick right.
Speaker 3Take it's like so easy to pick, take, take good drivers.
Speaker 1Well, like right now, or overall like overall since the beginning.
Speaker 2Since the beginning, your top three favorites the people that left left the most impressionable motherfucking stain on your camera lens. That day.
Speaker 1Well, my first one has got to be um at eastpins Drives the infinity and the frisks.
Speaker 5You know what I'm talking about. Uh-huh.
Speaker 1Yeah, he's super underrated. Um, my other one would be it's definitely got to be Poseidon too. Poseidon's like that one put the mark on you know what?
Speaker 5I mean Anytime he popped out, people were high like everyone was always like are you coming out?
Speaker 1Are you coming out? Like, because he always just put on a show. Like he just put on a show, um, my third one.
Speaker 4You recording this over there?
Speaker 2Who you recording that?
Speaker 1for oh hell no.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, but who you were?
Speaker 1she's recording me.
Speaker 5I know they better bust on the door right now.
Speaker 1No, for real. Um, so yeah, I said my three right.
Speaker 2No, no, we are one more. Look she Chinese yeah Um.
Speaker 1Um, oh, my gosh guys. Yeah, I can't. Where are these fingers at?
Speaker 5Gone to OGs.
Speaker 1The OGs. I told you. I said Poseidon Like he's the OG.
Speaker 5OG Poseidon, yeah, e-spins.
Speaker 1E-spins.
Speaker 5Who else brought the energy Like? Who made the crowd hype before they even started sliding.
Speaker 1Let me think of another. You know who ate Like and like. Where is he at right now, zuzu?
Speaker 2Yeah he ate Zuzu be here Sunday.
Speaker 1Oh, thank you. So yeah, I guess, like my like top three overall, like at the like from like start to now, I guess it's those three, I guess.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm not playing. I'm not playing. I'm going to get all the OGs. I'm not playing.
Speaker 1Yeah, like get him in here.
Speaker 4I wonder where I used to be terrified when he swung bro, because he wild. No, like he was scary. He got wheeled, but he wild. He was scary, but like he was like it was fun Like it was a fun scary Like he was.
Speaker 1like it was like really good shooting him.
Speaker 5And 35.
Speaker 1Yeah, I remember a good moment.
Speaker 4He hopped in Wu's Mercedes at four. Were you guys there for that?
Speaker 1No, yeah, like he was, he was spinning anything.
Speaker 2Wait, who is Wu Shoo? Wu oh, shoot a Wu Shoot to the Wu.
Speaker 4Shoot a Wu.
Speaker 1Shoot a Wu Shoot a Wu. Oh, my God, oh, it was one of the.
Speaker 4I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2Rom swingers with fast cars and shi***. That's, that's. That's what I'm pushing for now.
Speaker 1Oh, thank you, yeah, I think, yeah, those, those three are very like, um, just overall good swingers. They put on a little show and yeah.
Speaker 5Nate, I'd have to say Joe for sure, oh, my god Joe to.
Speaker 1Joe mention Joe yeah no, no, that's why I couldn't even pick, like guys. I'm telling you like no, joe's in there, joe's like in my top three, top four.
Speaker 5Yeah, well, it makes him like there, you know, I mean like up there is the fact that he's trying to actually bring Cali vibes, like I would always see him underneath, like my.
Speaker 5You know the people that I got involved with VVS, like Underneath the all the Cali in Bay area people like hype Do you know what I mean with those drivers? I know he's like really, you know, like he's really invested into that type of driving, so he's got to be there. Then you got to do Poseidon because the crowd when, anytime he pulled up, the crowd, was yelling.
Speaker 1And like, even if you were to pull up like now, like everyone would be like Poseidon's here.
Speaker 5I'm gonna pull up right now in the streets. I remember he came back outside for Chicago.
Speaker 2He's everybody, he's low key takeover Jesus.
Speaker 1He really is like he. Yeah, I know he's awesome, he did his thing.
Speaker 5No, he did for sure who else would be after that side? And Joe, maybe plum snow? Yeah, my boy.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, he ate to. He always telling you they like the OG's eight.
Speaker 5And plum always showed love to me, every single thing. Oh, for sure. Oh, great guy he was. He's actually wanted a very few guys. That knows how I look, because I would always. He would always come up. We'd tap each other up. Yeah, great guy.
Speaker 4I look you miss, when no one knew who I was or where I looked like.
Speaker 5You became a celebrity, right now yeah two months in. You said two months.
Speaker 1Was your favorite swingers over there. Man, go ahead, get the three out, that's easy.
Speaker 2Like super easy. All right well, fucking Joe side. And motherfucking more X Okay oh. I do international, I do it all.
Speaker 1Oh my god, yes, and what's that?
Speaker 2guy's big red big red.
Speaker 1Yeah big red shadow, big red he big red with the catty.
Speaker 4No, no, he had that.
Speaker 1the red eye chalice over one she needs to get back in a man I thought he had the corvette.
Speaker 4More access. Oh, when he was here the first year, first year.
Speaker 1Crazy.
Speaker 2I missed that. You got them clips out of ground, bro.
Speaker 4Well, that's meant to shit out of, but you roll back in the underground pretty hard if you got the clips of that. I want to see. I would just shoot a photo back there, bro I.
Speaker 2Still, I want to see the photo. I don't care.
Speaker 5Nick, do you remember the, the black vet, the tattoo artist that you, oh gee, they used to slide here and then it blew up. What kind of fire. I forgot his name Soly who?
Speaker 4are so, lee, I forgot about, oh dude, yeah him, and he was getting into it with, uh, he was big shit talker, right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I remember, yeah, it didn't blow up now, I remember they said that I only seen it like a couple of times.
Speaker 5And then I seen it when I was on fire and I was like, well, and then I saw it at the shop. Low-key. I was working one day. I was driving through the city and I saw I saw the blown up vet at the at the shop. I was like, ah, that's, that's a great guy right there I had. It's been a very long time, though, since that period.
Speaker 1Oh, good times.
Speaker 2Oh, if y'all could Tell the community anything in particular, what would it be? What?
Speaker 4like you're gonna need a little while for room.
Speaker 2Hey, no room. Take it that intermission.
Speaker 7What do you mean? What do you mean by that?
Speaker 4Tell them, tell them how you feel when we talked about her coming on and she's like all right, I got some shit to say, I guess.
Speaker 1I do, but I it's cuz I don't know if I can't get canceled guys.
Speaker 2Fucked out by who Time TV. Fuck whoever don't like it.
Speaker 1You're right, I guess I shouldn't really care, but, um, I Did something I got. I got so much to say and we were like, should I say it? Yes. Thing like advice or just a thing to say to the man talk, speak your piece Um tell them.
Speaker 2Tell them, what your issues is, guys.
Speaker 1Can we please go back to 2021? Please please like, can we just like all come together, like no, I'm for real, like I'm a talk now. Like can we just all like, really just like. Like can we just all come together and like, um, not everything has to be a competition? Like can we just swing, shoot and like vibe, is that not like? Is that not good, like it's just swing, shoot and vibe like the old times. I Don't know, I just feel like now it's like, really like it's all hate.
Speaker 1It's just so everyone's hating everybody and there's just so much beef all the time. So, like, like crew versus crew, this and that, like it doesn't have to be this way.
Speaker 4It really doesn't know it was better when there was one crew. Yeah, it really was everyone just came for the show went back when lumber lasted like when?
Speaker 1remember when it was like they posted on their Instagram story. It was just like everyone pop up here, you're locked in, you're good. And then everyone would just pop up and like there was nothing, like nothing. There was never no beef. Now there's just like too much.
Speaker 4It's scary now, like I like every time I open these group chats, it's shit talking, literally like with its swingers media, like everyone, just like, is always competing with everyone and like I get.
Speaker 1It's a competitive, I guess, environment, but it doesn't have to be like a hater environment. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2Tell them again Competition is good. The competition is good, but you ain't gotta be a fucking hater.
Speaker 1No, you know where it should stop. Like it should end after. Like, yeah, the little competition in the pit it's fun, but like as soon as you go home, like drop it. You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 5Yeah, you're bringing like beef to like. You know, these people that are trying to leave the streets like this is the. The purpose is to not be in that, yet they're bringing it here and don't don't even make sense the streets are a part of it now. Yeah, which is like you start making sense.
Speaker 5It's not what it, what it should be like. When I went to la, you know there's of course the people like that, because that's what happens when a group of people come. You know, I mean that's just probabilities, but like it's real competition, but it's just driving, it's no, I know this person is garbage and all this. And now you know, I mean now everybody got to be ready in case of whatever like.
Photographing Car Takeovers
Speaker 1Exactly like you just never know anymore. Like it's just so, like it's just scary shooting at the meets now, like you never know when someone's gonna pull out.
Speaker 4When I first started popping out, I never saw a single handgun, didn't see a single god.
Speaker 1Me neither. Yeah, I mean either. It was like everything was cool, I felt safe.
Speaker 2You know what? I got a question for you. Do you wish you'd never started taking here?
Speaker 4we go, bro man, you make me feel bad, dude.
Speaker 2That was a good one Do you wish you had to start taking niggas pictures with a good it makes that big.
Speaker 4I low key think I added to it. When people saw it like shit, I'm gonna bring out my gun next weekend, so I'm gonna get a picture from nick.
Speaker 1And I bet they came up to you too.
Speaker 2They're like I'll take a picture, yeah like because everybody want to just nick, just nick flip. When I remember the first time I jumped at nick inbox I'm gee, you won't never take no pictures of me, what the fuck.
Speaker 1That's what I want to ask you. Like, how did you feel about everyone be like oh, why don't you ever take pictures of me? Like, take a picture of me Like? How did you feel? Because, like, you were very like I mean you still are super known but like, even like, then everyone would always be like Nick, don't got me, nick, nick.
Speaker 4Nick Hollywood. I mean, yeah, it kind of pissed me off, but I mean, you know, I just I want my photos to, like you know, tell a story or something you know that make people feel something. And you know, I'm not always gonna take pictures of just people and I honestly don't, uh, ain't bringing me no fucking panda.
Speaker 2Jackass my father, anywho, my father honky-tonk uh, I mean, yeah, piss me off.
Speaker 4But I'm like I mean, what can I do, you know? I mean, if you want a picture, come up and ask me for a photo. Don't like it bad at me if I don't. You know, get a photo, you will post it in a set, or, you know, it's all love though. Right, of course.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's all love. Hey, one day, one day I just stopped asking and one day he just randomly. First off, I didn't even know who nick was, but I remember the day he took the picture. Like I remember seeing him aim the camera like in my direction, but I wasn't sure if he was thinking the picture of me. I was just in my phone with the flower.
Speaker 4He was at that warehouse right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2and he sent me the picture a couple days later like Ain't say nothing he like here you go See, that's a secret.
Speaker 4If you want a photo for me, leave me the fuck alone and I'll just send you a photo.
Speaker 5And those are the best photos too, right.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 4I don't play in my shots, you know I yeah, they're all spontaneous.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's, it's once, but that's the thing a lot of people don't Under really understand that. Yeah, so once I got around I don't know motherfuckers and um, once I got around motherfuckers and seen it like being around media specifically, and actually seeing how photography, videography worked, it really made A difference. Like that. That taught me lessons. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4Did either you like see Callie stuff before you hit the meets here?
Speaker 1I went to Callie, like we both did.
Speaker 5You even came oh dude.
Speaker 1I didn't know I didn't know it was a Chicago Right. Yeah, it was, it was.
Speaker 2Chicago, I got to get that drop. It just started with Chicago, and then I guess, yeah, because I didn't know, like I didn't go looking for Bay Area shit until after I experienced Right cities. I didn't know other until after I experienced Chicago, and then, from that moment forth, I started looking up Well, where did the takeovers come from? Where did they originate? Right or else?
Speaker 2this happened, man. No, I literally wanted to know where it originated and it took me to bay area, california. And I'm like damn, so I start, I start Typing in on instagram takeovers california. And just watching they, like I'm talking about binge watching a video, like it's an episode of motherfucking. It's like I'm binge watching dragon balls yeah, some crazy ass shit. I'm just sitting there for hours scrolling through reels and photos and shit, like In a time loop, just watching shit like Do y'all know takeovers been going on for almost 30 plus years.
Speaker 5Yeah, you know that. Yeah, no, it's been happening since the 80s.
Speaker 2It's been happening since the 80s in oakland in oakland. It's been going on since the fucking oh they haven't put a stop to it. Yeah.
Speaker 5Zest. He knows zest ways. Yeah in part of vvs. Yeah.
Speaker 4Yeah, part of the family.
Speaker 5Yeah yeah, he's always posting videos like from 80s, 90s. Oh sure, there's a lot and. It's definitely different, yeah.
Speaker 5Like the crowd wasn't all like that around the car, but no, yes, that's why all the cali people that we got like in vvs Really has been in their blood. Like these people been in there since before high school Popping out taking photos. You know what I mean. Like these people have been there for a very long time, and even their parents. You know what I mean. Like some like I know some guys like their whole family has like four cars each.
Speaker 5They're just sitting on the lawn, like just because that's how many cars like they've been in it for so many years, like yeah, it's different out there for sure.
Speaker 2Hey, jenny, I'm glad that you're here because now your 2021 specialty skills can come into play. Come take a seat and talk the room and Vvs game you really in next? What is it? Ventura in next? Ventura, yeah, but I Put vvs, not knowing that vvs is the umbrella this dude literally started the best Crew as far as like media, like we have all the heavy hitters in the vvs from cali from East coast Everywhere so I know who, I know who to call when I need shooters, when.
Speaker 5I'm going out of town. I got 40 people on call, so you let me know say less, because you, you big 2021 I.
Speaker 7All right, what questions I got? I didn't come prepared. I'm not gonna lie to y'all. So what's up? Um, let's talk about a comparison from 2021 compared to let's talk about 23. What's the biggest difference, you guys see?
Speaker 5Vibe yeah, that's the biggest one.
Speaker 7So we talk about vibe through the swingers, or vibe through spectators, or just everyone. Everyone literally everyone, yeah. So what's the vibe change like?
Speaker 5Dangerous outside now, like for no reason, like you got to come prepared, like literally you got to come prepared, just in case Like there's so many bodies I've seen on the ground. Like just just cuz I'm just outside, you know like for no reason that ain't never happened before.
Speaker 4Like spots last in 20 minutes. Only two hours, three hours, 2021.
Speaker 5We used to be outside in a spot for so long that they would move it because we were bored from being right, like everyone's saying, like do someone call the cops? Could?
Speaker 4we got to move yeah.
Speaker 7No, so what we were talking about the other day was how we had um in 2021, we literally have full-ass families outside with kids, and they'd be kids sitting on the whips and they would all be looking at everything and, like their parents, would feel comfortable bringing them out. Yeah, because it was safe and now Do you guys see any kids out, any families out?
Speaker 1Oh, I got. I barely go out now.
Speaker 7I got a younger brother and I would not bring his 15 year old ass out here and he's 15, but there was, we had like five year old, six years, we had babies. We had moms walking around with their babies In their arms. Yeah, no, literally yeah.
Speaker 5Halloween We'd see him, yeah, but not no more people. Now, drivers, all of them. They got jr, they got the window. We're just cool for photos, but like the last time I popped out officially this year, bro, why is a spectator hanging out of an ultima? What a AR 15.
Speaker 7Like an ultima is crazy.
Speaker 5Dude. Like he had to, he had to ski on, and we're not even at the pit yet and there's. There's just literally civilians doing u-turns going over curbs, because people start panicking, like what are you doing? Like for what?
Speaker 1it's just you know we don't talk about a lot is the fact that, like everyone has to race to the next spot, that's crazy.
Speaker 4You want to talk about some fucking stress. No, that's the one thing I hate about it.
Speaker 1I've gone, hit two times at these meets like literal, like and I bet you wasn't by a swinger.
Speaker 7It sure was. It was from a swinger. It was from a swinger Dude.
Speaker 1Was someone a g, someone in a g, hit me in 2021? I want to fight.
Speaker 4Fucking vq driver.
Speaker 1No, but um this a, g, just knows no bueno, dude, I don't know, but they hit me and Luckily they did. Like insurance and stuff, whatever, it's all cool, never, doesn't matter, no more, but like Like our friends literally got hit, god had like sent to the hospital, type beat. Like oh, yeah, like it's like it's been bad, like there's like it's just not that deep.
Speaker 7No, yeah, I've definitely been. Like I pop out with some friends and they definitely do the same Shit and I'd be sitting there cussing them the fuck out. Like you need to chill the fuck out, because it's not just your life in danger. You're putting my, like my life as a passenger in danger and everybody around us in danger and everybody's trying to rush to the spot. And it's crazy because a lot of the time what I was saying was that, like I guess swingers have a reason to get up and go. You know what I'm saying. Like, if I'm gonna stop.
Speaker 7Somebody's gonna be the swingers, but the spectators? They just be rushing in and trying to follow the crew and trying to follow the swingers and keep up with them, like, sir, you are in a Nissan.
Speaker 1That's why we brought up Nissan and we brought it up like that's what I mean, like what? Like I think, like I get the like swingers, like go ahead, go do your thing, but like specters, let's relax, like You'll get there and if you don't, there's another spot. You know what I mean. And then like especially like what road is?
Speaker 7it like if people want to race, that bad, we could bring lumez back. Lumez, we could bring lumez back if people really want to race, because, hey, that's, that's how we used to end a lot of the carnage. Every single night I fucking three in the morning and it didn't matter who the fuck lined up. It would be a Ultimate versus a fucking charger.
Speaker 1So it don't matter, it was just vibes back then. That's the like, that's what I was talking about, like it was just so much like vibes back then, like no one, like Like no one was judging no one like everyone was just doing like their own thing, bringing their families, bringing their friends, like it was something to do on the weekends you know what I mean something kind of to look forward to, but like now it's just like yeah, I'll catch next me like maybe if there's nothing going on, you know, but like that's what I mean like vibes are not there, no more.
Speaker 1It's like not something like really like Just to look forward to, in a way.
Speaker 7So do you guys think that we could bring the same vibe that was back in 2021 back to 2024? No, I honestly don't.
Speaker 1I think, that she's dead.
Speaker 5Issues on numbers work. Yeah, I mean like.
Speaker 7I mean, maybe if, like, there's just one crew, like three went no but the thing is, we had multiple crews back then, like yeah, you know what I'm saying like 2021 was the year that 312 blew up in the summer. That's when that happened, that's what I meant.
Speaker 1That's what I meant, everyone.
Speaker 7We had multiple crews but it was all just love. It wasn't like on dirt, it wasn't on like bullshit, like fuck that crew. If it was, fuck that crew is this as a joke and it's homies versus homies. You know?
Speaker 1I'm saying it was all jokes like right, it was just all jokes, but I feel like it's real quote-unquote beef nowadays literally.
Speaker 7Which I feel like is irrelevant. Like, at the end of day, we all outside, we all try to enjoy the cars, we all try to become one big happy family and shit, but as long as there's more fuck is trying to be because Unique it a rollback on somebody. You know what I'm saying. Now we all, we all of a sudden, we ops.
Speaker 1Exactly Like it's never that deep. Can we just please all collectively agree it's not that deep, please? Thank you.
Speaker 7So yeah, because that's how we ended our podcast yesterday. We were talking about how, basically, we are the root of the problem. We are, we are. Everybody sits here and everybody always talks about how, oh shit's dead, yada, yada, yada. It's not the same, but at the end of the day, we're the people who ruined it, and I feel like everybody wants to take accountability when it comes to that. Everybody wants to be like, oh yeah, it's dead, but it wasn't us, like what the fuck was it? Because I will say I do put a lot of like Quote on. I guess you could say blame on the new Spectators, newcomers, because they definitely are not car lovers. They just want to be out there, they just want to Fuck it up. I don't see anything else to do exactly.
Speaker 1I feel like now it's not even like, it's just like street related, now it's not car related at all, like yeah, no it's even that people just being outside just to drink, just to Pop pills, whatever, like it means we're just something to do.
Irresponsible Behavior's Impact on Car Meets
Speaker 5It's literally just something to do, especially in Chicago. Like, yeah, sure, there's stuff to do, but, like when you're a teen and you're surrounded by some stuff, you're gonna go out and you're like, oh, like, oh, this is all over my snapchat, right, you're obviously gonna be trying to pop out. Be fried, driving speeding. Be Stupid, drunk driving on the highway Like I've seen before. Like drivers so drunk they can't even drive their own car, but they'll be sliding when they get to the next spot right crazy throwing up. It doesn't make no sense.
Speaker 7So I definitely always say we don't want more drinking and driving. If you want to pop out, if you want to be drunk, that's cool.
Speaker 6Be a pretty passenger, be a pretty passenger, don't matter if you a guy or a female like just don't matter.
Speaker 7Just we all got to play it safe. At the end of the day, like I said, all of our lives are at risk. When we're all at these car meets Like we know what we're getting ourselves into, but we can also Deescalate how bad the accidents are we can also control that yeah, like that's all in our control, and I feel like that's what people don't understand.
Speaker 7They just it's always, always Chicago. What do you expect? There's gonna be shootouts? No, no, because in 2021 there wasn't that many. I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, we never had a shootout. No, because, yes, it is Chicago, but we didn't have them every fucking weekend. Yeah, we didn't have bodies Drop like that. We didn't have crazy fucking accidents Like I know there was. There was a crazy accident, I seem like killing like innocent people that not even part of the car meets, just because y'all cutting up trying to get to the next spot, exactly.
Speaker 5No, I remember the first ever shooting that ever happened under me. Look, I think that you said that that was the first meet you ever went to, right? Is that?
Speaker 4when uh like the super far east.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's super.
Speaker 7So the first meet that you went to was a shootout and you said, yeah, let me come in, Uh well, I didn't see it.
Speaker 4I just, you know someone started shooting and that's when we went home. But I'm like this I'm hooked.
Speaker 5But even then, though, people weren't even getting hit when people were shooting right and like hitting people or nothing like that. You know it's just no. Well, obviously it ain't normal but people just shooting in the air or whatever, you know, at least people ain't on the floor. But when it happens repeatedly and repeatedly, I mean I feel like it's normalized because it's.
Speaker 7Chicago. Yeah, because it's Chicago, it's normalized, but but it shouldn't be. Yeah and that could go into a deeper conversation about just everything going on in Chicago. But strictly in the car scene, it wasn't always like that. We didn't have motherfuckers just Showing the stripes out the window just to show them off. Like hood always says a real motherfucker always have that shit tucked, they don't gotta flaunt it.
Speaker 1Yeah, that was so like what? 2023?, no, 2022 when they started showing like their guns and everything, yeah, 2022.
Speaker 4Shut the. I knew you were a station you know low key bro. I remember the first, the first blip photo I took. It was it was zoo and it's Gucci belt.
Speaker 1Oh hell no.
Speaker 4That's when everyone started, you know it became a trend. So I apologize for that.
Speaker 5They probably had their outfit laid out.
Speaker 1No, they're like. They said this.
Speaker 7I'm gonna walk up to Nick and show him. I got a blick and let me look fresh as fuck and boom.
Speaker 1I'm gonna be on a grand Like I'm good.
Speaker 7It's your own famous. I know.
Speaker 1That's a thing it's. It's too normalized now all that and it doesn't Okay change.
Speaker 7So we're talking about change period. I'm looking at a table full of media crew here, Media wise. What's the biggest change?
Speaker 5It's terrible now.
Speaker 7It's terrible. You think the media is terrible?
Speaker 5I agree, absolutely horrible.
Speaker 1I do agree with him to.
Speaker 5I mean look, go ahead speak.
Speaker 1I'll take the floor after you. It is what it is Right.
Speaker 5It's like you're watching television Not everything is going to be good, but it has the flow going. Right, that's the point of social media. But if you're going to be an actual media person, right, you got to actually have some sort of work into it. Like it's not just like oh, let me post this raw photo with some Instagram, real like audio and no color. You know what I mean? No color grading, no, no, nothing. You know? Like there's that's really like a, like a soulless video, damn near. You know what I mean. Like it's empty. You know, like that you can't be media. You're just another spectator and that's okay. You know what I mean. Like that's what the majority of these people are anyways. But obviously, when more people come in, everyone wants to be included. So that's like something that totally changed was how media was, like everyone's claiming to be media.
Speaker 7So do you feel some type of way, then, when spectators claiming to be media, just basically what you're saying is not putting in the work to actually be a photographer, actually be an artist when it comes to put in the clips together?
Speaker 5Yeah, like taking that title and like you just got a camera.
Speaker 7I feel like it should be given and it's earned right you just don't have passion, bro.
Speaker 4They're not passionate about photography or photography. That's what I want to say. I feel like now.
Speaker 1Media is just chasing views, chasing like clout, chasing clout like which is needed, because that's what makes everything bigger.
Speaker 5Right, right.
Speaker 1But there's no passion, right, and you know what?
Speaker 4fucking murdered it. These reels do.
Speaker 1And really real, literally, the city photo and video.
Speaker 4They hit the algorithm. Now look, they got 50,000 followers.
Speaker 1That's what that's my biggest, my biggest song.
Speaker 5You see them on the timeline five times in a day.
Speaker 1Exactly they, yeah, they like they post 10 videos. Of course, at least like three of them are going to get like blown up, you know yeah. Well, like we, while we take our time to, you know, like edit and like color grade and everything, like pick a good song and everything, and then, one that goes with the flow. Like the vibes and like we get, which is doesn't matter, I rather take like. Was it that you said like? You rather take like like?
Speaker 7speaking to your mic, oh sorry.
Speaker 1You rather take like people like closer to you than like just randoms like that will like literally unfollow you like within two days. You know what I mean and that's why I feel like I just feel like these, like this media, now just a bunch of clout chasers.
Speaker 5And that's why you'll see them tag 57 people in the real. You know what I mean, right.
Speaker 1And hashtag, like just to get them out of random ass shit.
Speaker 2And they learned that from Nick.
Speaker 1Shut up.
Speaker 4And then I'm not going to say it.
Speaker 7Oh say it. You're over here coming at me Say it. That's what we on a podcast, for a sake.
Speaker 4If you make a real, you don't need to send it to every group chat.
Speaker 7Thank you, that's for you. Hey, they calling out hood right now. Oh, I'm not even on the mic.
Speaker 2I'm not media, so I'm going to send it to every goddamn body because I'm shadow band shadow band. No, for real, they said. Instagram sent me a message.
Speaker 7What Instagram? Tell you, your shadow band.
Speaker 2He watched, told me that we will no longer show your follow, your videos or pictures or anything to new people. Why. What they told me. Sent me a message saying that I need to see the proof. Yeah, what you post.
Speaker 7What you mean. It had to be a reason.
Speaker 2I got this, happened this year.
Speaker 7Good speaking to the mic.
Speaker 2This happened this year and they was telling me about shit from last year. I'm like what the fuck?
Speaker 3I already be in my time for this, Like bro, what.
Speaker 4Floris been shadow band.
Speaker 2You remember all the time they kept telling me I couldn't be monetized.
Speaker 4He said monetized.
Speaker 7Monotized. Okay. So, since we're on, obviously, 2021, let's talk about spots. What is one of your favorite spots that was killed, right?
Speaker 5here lumber, yeah right here the OG lumber Lumber, you know it's crazy right under right underneath the underpass.
Speaker 1That was Union. We call it Union.
Speaker 7That was Union man. I remember literally dropping the low for the first time. Who the fuck gave it?
Speaker 4a go which one? That by the show Right here. Underneath the bridge at lumber, the one. You just pull it up.
Speaker 7Let me pull it up the one you literally just drove underneath to get here.
Speaker 4That's like we all swum there.
Speaker 7Yes, we used to swing right there. That was the, that was the OG lumber. We didn't even bring it down to that fat ass intercession. Right there, we was underneath the bridge, right there.
Speaker 5That was the OG, it was Union. That's what we call it Right underneath the bridge. So it echoes You'll be dead for a second.
Speaker 4You all got killed these half sticks of fucking dynamite.
Speaker 2Gee, I'm not going to lie to you. Having my shop in Pilsen, I found out that's a Mexican thing Not to be on the racist what's a Mexican thing. The fucking half sticks of dynamite.
Speaker 7That's an Arab thing.
Speaker 2No, the fuck is not I ain't no, it ain't no, goddamn Arabs on 18th Street. It ain't no goddamn Arabs on 18th Street. Them motherfuckers be half sticking it up, just walking down a block. Boom. Where did you pull that from out your ass?
Speaker 5No, they'll have five of them. Got to keep them on hand man.
Speaker 7Ok, so, besides Union, I feel like Union ain't killed, though I feel like we sometimes run it back to lumber because we just had moved it to lumber and I feel like people forgot about it.
Speaker 2Yeah, I'm going to tell you the truth. Nothing in this district is safe. This shit is over. What 12th? Yeah, this shit fried Barbecue, especially after we got Sergeant Dick Buck, is about to hit.
Speaker 5Dude on the news right.
Speaker 4Yeah, scouts, or what's his name. I don't know what to say. A fuck dude. I don't know what to say.
Speaker 5But I called him Dick Buck, dick Buck.
Speaker 2If you know he arrested.
Speaker 4Leon and him yeah and he didn't arrest me. He was a part of it.
Speaker 7Did we already talk about?
Speaker 4that Briefly.
Speaker 7Briefly, you want to run into that?
Speaker 4Like what happened.
Speaker 7Yeah.
Speaker 4So we was here at lumber, we mentioned it a lot so 12 pulled up. They started grabbing people. They actually ripped a spectator out of his car, threw him on the ground, and then this officer it was a guy and a girl. Well, yeah, you're right, the girl got thrown on the ground. The guy 12 hopped into his car, threw it in park and everything, and then this one cop, Francis Egan, he kind of sucked her. He looks over and sees me.
Speaker 4I was standing right by the bench with the dog. I was standing by myself. He walked right up to me and grabbed me. He said get the fuck over here, motherfucker, dragged me in the street, threw me up against the back of dude's car that they pulled out of, took my camera. And then his buddies pulled up, same guys that were out here Hassel and me, mike and Leon, and then, of course, officer Tan. The Chinese dude walks up. He said Nick, I told you, man, we're going to get you.
Speaker 2Who the fuck is Rick and?
Speaker 4Tan, and they threw me in the car and took me to District 12, but then they transferred me to one for whatever reason District 1.
Speaker 2That shit was a wild night because wifey was freaking the fuck out.
Speaker 4Oh, my God, I finally get my phone back. Dude 100 messages, everyone's story, free Nick, free Nick.
Speaker 7Free Nick to his back, where it's.
Speaker 4It was going to happen eventually. So you know I'm still out here.
Speaker 7Let's hope it don't happen again, man, so do y'all remember your first car meet?
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 7When was it?
Speaker 5June 2021.
Speaker 7June 2021.
Speaker 1Yeah, march 2021. It was 2021.
Speaker 4I don't remember one month.
Speaker 1Yeah his was probably me. I was March.
Speaker 7March. You know it's crazy, is that that white castle? Oh my God, I miss this, that's another spot.
Speaker 1That's another spot, that white castle.
Speaker 7We fucked that bitch up Like that's just, we can go.
Speaker 1We literally never go back to that. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 7Never for guy, but that'll never be retrieved.
Speaker 1I feel like ever like no, yeah, that that place is over with some same with like With Whole Foods, like we can't go back there either.
Speaker 5Wacker though that was the best. Like that was, there was a lot of speed bumps.
Speaker 1Oh, they added them Right.
Speaker 5Yeah, they added them. No, that would be crazy. Back then Wacker Tanders and people don't do tandems like that the upper part or the Both. I remember one time we hit both at the same time. Oh yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 7I'm low key, like lower better than upper. Yeah, I agree, that just might be me, though, because I don't know. I mean, granted, upper felt bigger, but I feel like lower, and that's crazy, because you know people who go on high speeds, that's what they always get caught up, the people who don't know how to get through and what's what's that?
Speaker 1road Wacker right Like when you're like speeding down there. What is that?
Speaker 4Well, like the tunnel thing. Yeah, yeah, it's wack.
Speaker 1Yeah, dude, that's scary that place is scary. Like everyone going like a hundred, a hundred and ten, trying to find the curves at a hundred and ten.
Speaker 7I'm like, oh, we're going so fast. And then slamming the brakes and you just see the lights go.
Speaker 1Dude it's the worst, like it was so, and then people are outside the window like, can you guys get in?
Speaker 7Like yeah right. They've been hitting themselves on the fucking road, oh my God, yeah, no, it's like it's very anxious in there. Right.
Speaker 1Major anxiety in there.
Speaker 7That place scares me. All right, let me think so. Anything back then that. So we go ahead.
Speaker 1What's the goal here? What's the goal? What are we going to?
Speaker 7do so I feel like that goes back to how we were saying that we are the root of the problem. So I feel like if we just sit here we could talk about it all day long, but it ain't shit for the change, yep, so shit. People just have to start holding themselves accountable. We said we'd grown fucking people. This little baby-ass beef, or whatever the fuck y'all want to call it, it just got to go, like y'all need to literally take accountability and be like you know what.
Speaker 7I don't even know why. I don't like this motherfucker. We cool. You know what? I'm saying Like y'all be having beef with motherfuckers and don't even know them. Y'all be calling them by the Instagram. Handles like yeah, I don't like someone's out on the score 321.
Speaker 7Yeah, I don't even know their real names and that's insane. Like if you have real beef with a motherfucker, like okay, I guess. Like if he fuck your bitch, then okay, fuck him, but you mad because he cut you off while we was going to the next spot, so now you don't fuck with him, he y'all like I think they go straight to Instagram story straight.
Speaker 1Man, it's fuck this person, fuck that.
Speaker 7I'm like dude, fuck this fuck that, all the goofy shit.
Speaker 2Fuck Orlando. Oh my God, bro, man Lord Moving on, it's a it's a, it's a he he ha ha moment with me is like I ain't got no beef with dude, he do got a. Run me my fade of calling me a bitch and shit.
Speaker 7Oh my God, Damn not the be where. That's insane. And what do we say about?
Speaker 1dropping the beef.
Speaker 7No, he's going to say it till his backwards and I don't think it's ever going to be backwards for him.
Speaker 2No, no, no, it's, no. It's literally no beef with him. Like we can shoot a fair one and it'll be all up.
Speaker 1Oh hell. No, I just want to show you.
Speaker 2I just want to show you I'm not a bitch Like we take that shit personal where I come from.
Speaker 7All right, so calling out Orlando, we for the start right there. I need you to mend this little, whatever fuck situation, because we all become an accountable for our own shit, right? Oh my? God. Right.
Speaker 2And I'm going to bring the boxing gloves to the pit and then, after that, I'm going to give you a nice hug and a kiss, and then y'all going to be besties.
Speaker 7Yeah, all right. I got two pairs of boxing gloves in the car. They're both 14 hours. Let me know when you need them. One is pink, though. You can give that to him if you want it. You want the pink ones, all right, we call it breast cancer awareness, right there? Hey, y'all remember when they brought the boxing gloves to lumber.
Speaker 1Dude yes.
Speaker 7Do you remember that?
Speaker 1Dude, where's Kevin? Y'all gonna get Kevin on here, the one with the Hummer.
Speaker 7Oh, Kevin, with the Kev-o Dude he.
Speaker 1That's another thing we're missing. We have no music, no more.
Speaker 5That's low key. No one plays fucking music no more.
Speaker 7It's set to live. I think we talked about him like 1300,000 times.
Speaker 1Bro, what you guys already talked about him.
Speaker 7We talked about him on every episode. Wait did you talk to him. Nobody sent me his Alright cool y'all, I'll just take some. You know everybody. You know G, you know everybody From 2021.
Speaker 2That was relevant in 2020.
Speaker 7There you go. We can say that, something like that. I don't know. Pull up the hook. Hey, do you want me to tell you to speak into the mic? Alright, he bumping. So, as for the host, what changed? It changed Too many people trying to host Bad.
Speaker 5Bad and people are doing it for the wrong things. Some people got it already on lock.
Speaker 1You know what's crazy? It's people with no cars Like that actually don't like their.
Speaker 4People that need to get picked up.
Speaker 1No, literally always are like can you guys pick me up? Like what, how are you hosting with no car?
Speaker 2I'm just, I have a car, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 7Hold on, are you, jenny Am?
Speaker 4I Jenny.
Speaker 7Rackies.
Speaker 4Jenny, Now rackies Jenny.
Speaker 7I didn't belong to him Merch, Merch, that was you outside his chair? That was me, when you all hit.
Speaker 4dude. That was my first meet. Oh my God, I'm so sorry, dude, that was my first meet, oh my. God hey, listen, listen listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 7We didn't hit nobody, he hit the chat he wanted to kiss her. That was. You can't even put that on him, though.
Speaker 4No, bro was wasted.
Speaker 7We could right yeah, stumbling around, shout out dude because he was chill about it after the fact, but that was definitely an interesting night. But it was not TJ's fault. We could say that Federal federal federal. I'm just saying. You could be, a re-go after this episode bro.
Speaker 4Dude we're.
Speaker 1I'm dropping Just a hard-pulling up camera footage from 2021. Oh yeah.
Speaker 7We're not looking for him For who Dunno what you're talking about. I feel like we need to have another box of night. We had a box of night. When was it? It wasn't even at a car meet. It was the pre-meat. Yep at the beach. And they set up a ring and anybody who wanted to box stepped the fuck up. They did do that shit.
Speaker 4I wasn't around for that right.
Speaker 7No, you're not. We know. Your first call-out is Orlando, Bro. It was half your age, dude.
Speaker 4Half your size.
Speaker 2That's why he needs to stay in the fucking house. Please, I'm gonna put belt to ass. You got a box in with one arm on.
Speaker 7Yeah, in your left I will sleep him with either one.
Speaker 4What the fuck, bro, you had me.
Speaker 7I think that's how we should start out 2024. Fuck it, pull the ring up and anybody who has beef call your people out, and then I think we should start with Orlando.
Speaker 1Leave your guns at home.
Speaker 4Leave your guns at home Register at guns.
Speaker 7We'll provide the gloves for y'all, as long as y'all squash whatever little childish ass beef y'all got going on after.
Speaker 4Your pointless beef, just because someone said that, oh, dude's a better swinger than you, or dude's better than you.
Speaker 5I just gotta be better drivers.
Speaker 4Do you know how many times I get told that I'm a shitty photographer, that so-and-so is better than me? I'm not out here to compare myself to somebody else or to be better than anybody else. I think that's what makes me different than 99.9% of these motherfuckers out here, and you made a good point. People are just picking up a camera, not even for a month, and now they're calling themselves goats, saying they glass photos Like dude.
Speaker 1Ben here, since I'm like alright, that's enough.
Speaker 4You do you man.
Speaker 7E-S-T December 31st 2022. An OG, because I'm in 2022. No literally.
Speaker 1You're like no.
Speaker 7Do you guys think that when the party scene and the car scene merged, it was a good or bad thing? That was?
Speaker 1a terrible idea. I feel like that's what ruined it. That's literally what ruined it, because everyone thought that it was a party.
Speaker 7So I think, well, realistically, it was out there party Especially with Kev, I think my personal opinion, my personal opinion before y'all try to come at my neck.
Speaker 7I feel like what ruined it was media, not you guys, not the professional media, but I'm talking about how we talk, about all the randoms just posting literally Snapchat stories and them blowing up. I think once they blew up, it just reached the wrong crowd and all of a sudden it's oh my god, I want to be there because they look like they having fun and shit. Once the streets got involved, that's when the problem became the problem.
Speaker 7Now I'm pretty sure you know don't get me wrong Like we could all be one happy family and we could all be happy family and we could all be happy family and we could all be one happy family If y'all devoted to cars, like if y'all devoted to cars. When you out here like shit, we not telling you you gotta go and buy a fucking hellcat, hold on, say that.
Speaker 2one word one more time. I don't even know what I said.
Speaker 7Devoted Family, oh family, I don't even know what I said.
Speaker 6You know family is the most important thing in order of the day. Yeah, and you got to look out for your own. And we ain't gonna let nobody snag us off our mainframe for a month and we ain't kissing no ass to be accepted. But at the same time we gonna lay back. We gonna be cool. We not gonna kick nothing, no fights with nobody. We not gonna run up to no other man's fights and get involved in no bullshit.
Speaker 1Oh my God, we need that. That was a penicy.
Speaker 5That was a penicy. Okay, I can respect penicy.
Speaker 7He been waiting for that all night. He just love pushing them damn buttons. Yeah, we could tell. See, now you made me lose my train of thought.
Speaker 2I got a lot of buttons to push.
Speaker 7Leave me alone. You be pushing my buttons.
Speaker 1Yeah, I know, but I agree with you. I do think that the media, I guess, in a way did kind of like. It's like the different type, how you look at it, what type of media?
Speaker 7Yeah, we're not trying to say we're welcoming anybody with open arms. You know what I'm saying. If you have love for the scene but, like you said, be humble.
Speaker 7and you got to like we can't be two separate crews as in the streets, versus like the car scene at the same fucking spot. You know what I'm saying. I feel like if you're going to be out here, then you're out here for the cars period, whether you just like to fucking see drifting, you want to be part of Fast Furious or whether you genuinely have a love for cars. You know what I'm saying. But at the end of the day, we got to make it about the cars because that's what we were here for to begin with right, it's just clout.
Speaker 1Now it's literally Every. There'll be people literally just buying cars just to swing it.
Speaker 7I mean that ain't no problem. Like fucking get a beater and shit. I wouldn't blame him. You spent all your damn hard work money on a fucking car to get it hit at a car.
Speaker 4If you want to buy your fucking beater, and something, and that's why a lot of these heavy hitters stop coming out.
Speaker 7Yeah, that's fact, though we need more buckets out, though.
Speaker 5True, if we're going to really do this scene, we have to actually look at the places that have been here for longevity. You know what I mean. Every single city in Demiurge, except for San Diego, maybe, like everywhere in Cali, they've been in there for multiple years. We got to actually look these people it's street people, it's car crews that are out there that are really in some stuff. You know what I mean. But then you have people that just are in the cars, you know, and build multiple cars, but they all come together in this super competition all the time, and that's mainly what it is. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5These people have been in here for so long. Chicago ain't been here for so long. Like that, we blew up. Yeah, that's just what happens when you have a bunch of people to be able to post something. But you got to also take notes from people that have been in here for so long, like there's hosts out there that they don't even know how these people look. They don't know who these people are. You know what I mean. There's people that don't post nothing on social media and they still do it like that, just word-to-mouth. You know what I mean, that's what we need. We got people that solve their beefs by banging their cars up together in the pit.
Speaker 7As long as y'all are not hitting people, though.
Speaker 5Yeah, yeah, if y'all want to play bumper cars, that's dope, that's good footage, that's good photos and that's just good enjoyment with your spectating. But then you know you got to get out the cars and do all this extra because you got a rollback done and you got an auto like come on, and we got to stop these auto rollbacks because they're actually trash. Y'all got to fuck your transmissions up doing these neutral drops and even then, if you got them wanting to do that, that's cool.
Speaker 7but like you look a little slow. So we had somebody say that rollbacks was an issue. They said that rollbacks was the root of the problem because they said it was such a big form of disrespect. And Hood said no, what's disrespectful about it? Like getting rolled back on and they think that people take it to heart and they're like damn, I just got rolled back on, that's a hop. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 5That's so emotional. That's crazy, and they got to learn how to be better drivers. That's literally the key. If we had better drivers, they wouldn't be crying all the time Like, come on, I'm gonna roll back on you Now, get your get back and kick him out the pit, get on his door and kick him out, or if you can't, then that's okay. Just get out the pit and deal with the night. Everyone will forget the next week.
Speaker 1It's whatever Maybe.
Speaker 5Everyone's already like Until they see the video. Until gets posted up by.
Speaker 7Just Nick, I feel like you don't miss. Any event you miss any event that you miss, you have to tap in with Nick, and you got it. So, as for your guys' media, where do you guys see it taking you? Where do you want to take your art? How do you? Plan on taking it to the next level.
Speaker 5Go ahead.
Speaker 5So I guess I'll be like I'll just start from in and go out Right. So that's the point. Gallery VVS right Is to create this group of people that we can get together to create an actual movement, an actual media company that isn't just the preppy kids that have been having photography their entire life. We got people that they might be 15 years old, that just live in a random spot in LA. They live in Compton Industries, but they've been shooting photography since 15. That's what we need those people and those visions, those street visions. They'll de-grit the real life and with all those types of visions together you're able to create projects to make for companies or ourselves. There's so many opportunities because it's not something that's so tapped in. Yet. Of course, there's underground art, but during these underground artists that are 16 years old working with someone that's 37, you know what I mean. That's different.
Speaker 2I'm finna ask you some crazy shit. Can we get a VBS crapbook? Yeah, hey that would be dope.
Speaker 5We could definitely do that. I'll buy it.
Speaker 2Pre-order right now.
Speaker 7Pre-order in the comments. We could definitely do that. We could do it by year. Oh, that would be hard. So, Nick, you said you want to get paid for it, so do you guys not do shoots outside of?
Speaker 4Yeah.
Speaker 7You know what I'm saying, not as often as I want, so like from the car scene. You feel like it's fake love just because you've given them shit for their Instagram.
Speaker 4Sometimes? Yeah, most definitely. They'll only hit me up for photos, they don't.
Speaker 7The free ones, though they don't hit you up for shoots, because I feel like, at the end of the day, the media don't got to take pictures for shit. Yeah, y'all see it with your own eyes, and I feel like, when it comes down to the fact that we all family, we all support each other, that also means supporting businesses. You know what I'm saying? Like cameras ain't cheap. Right.
Speaker 7And for them to be bringing it out and risking it, because let them get smacked and boom, there goes their camera getting ran over. That's a lot of money. Or the lasers.
Speaker 2Yeah, hey, I seen folks and I'm talking about Nick here I seen folks buy a lens for like $1,200 or some crazy ass shit.
Speaker 7I'm like what the fuck are you doing? That's just the lens, and one of them.
Speaker 5And that's just Nick. Like there's shooters out here with like $4,000 lenses on it.
Speaker 2And Nick was getting that, and Nick was getting that man. They fried my lens with a fucking laser.
Speaker 4Oh, bro, I would be so what.
Speaker 7So, if y'all don't know, do not point fucking lasers at cameras, don't do that?
Speaker 4Point them at the tires.
Speaker 5Not cameras, give us some color in there? Yeah it makes photos look dope.
Speaker 1But not at the cameras.
Speaker 5Not at the sensors, not at the sensors.
Speaker 7But I feel like Shit. Y'all need to tip your photographers. Tip your photographers. We're gonna start that because y'all be in the middle of the pit too. That's the crazy thing. It's not y'all not just shooting from the outside, like y'all trying to get it captured the moment, and then they go back home and they look at this picture every fucking day like damn they be having it. How many more photographers do you think got the sure pictures that you took on their log screen? Y'all remember when iPhone used to make you pay for them pictures?
Speaker 2Post on y'all Instagram cash at me with watermarks all over the pictures.
Speaker 7Yeah, that part for real. I would be like you know what? Here's a little preview, but if you want the rest of the pic, $5, fuck, $1.
Speaker 2$1 more than one like not having it. Fuck that $10.
Speaker 7$10 for a photo $20. A hundred dollars right now per picture.
Speaker 2Facts, because they do glass work and I pretty much equate this team of shooters and the shooters that I selected as real media in my mind. I view y'all work like I view my bouquets. Whatever the fuck y'all tell them or fuck the y'all price is. That's what it is.
Speaker 1I feel like the problem is is like the swingers are like well, we're the ones that give you guys the show. I have been told that. Yeah. And then they're like, why would we pay when we give you the show, which is true, that's like not wrong, but like you wouldn't have the pictures if it wasn't for the photographer You'd have the shitty ass raw pictures. Exactly like. If you want to take those pictures over, you know ours, that's on you.
Speaker 4And I even get told like bro, why are you holding pictures of me? Why don't you give me pictures of me? You're gonna crash at me right now, Right exactly.
Speaker 7Send me the dub and it don't take fucking one second to edit them pictures and y'all don't realize that. Like for them to put out that quality media, they're not only taking the time that they do at the car scene to take the pictures, but they gotta go home and they gotta look at all the fucking pictures. They don't just take ten pictures a night and be like, okay, yeah, I'm done. How many pictures you gotta go through to pick?
Speaker 2the pictures and a lot of people don't know that Jenny motherfucking could talk her shit like this because she used to take photos with her.
Speaker 4Merch, she was the OG.
Speaker 7Yeah, she's the. Og.
Speaker 3I was a photographer and a host you don't know this.
Speaker 7I was a photographer and a host At the same time. G. Jenny's the OG. What'd you shoot on? I'm literally a shitty camera. I'm not even a cap. I'm not as good as y'all. That's why I don't say that.
Speaker 7It was literally just a canning Actually you made a mart, though and that's crazy, because I would never put myself in the dark of it because you're a kid and I know what your babies are on because I never fully invested into it. I love photography and all, and I did just-start shooting at the scene just to shoot it, and then I was like yo, this is kinda dope. I remember one of my first pictures I actually liked. I literally hung out of my homie's challenger on the fucking highway and it was a picture of Hertz. It was freezing, fucking cold, and we going 80 miles per hour. I'm outside the window with my fucking camera, like shit. That was one picture that I was like I like this picture.
Speaker 7I mean, you know like I took photography classes, but, like I said, I would never put myself up to that, because I understand that the level that I was at was still fucking amateur, and that's why, when I see your guys' what you guys produce and how much time and effort you put into it, I'm amazed by it and I appreciate it. That's why it's like kind of shitty in my eyes, because it's like I understand how much effort you're putting into it, how much patience it takes, how much time it takes and how much learning. Because you don't just hop on Photoshop and be like oh, I know exactly what the fuck to push. I want y'all to open Photoshop and do something. Do something that look good.
Speaker 4Like people think that the photos on my feed. That's how my camera takes the photo.
Speaker 7No.
Speaker 4No dude, not at all, not even close Editing is everything.
Speaker 7Like literally through Photoshop, lightroom, everything Like. Sometimes it's not even just one application. You take it through and that's why, like it makes me mad for you guys that the swingers are over here like oh, if it wasn't for us. And da, da da da, or that people just like you guys said like just the raw ass images, the shitty, no offense, black take it, offense Don't matter, but like that doesn't add up to all these people with actual cameras and putting in all the effort, and not only that, but like equipment, like not just the camera what you think they editing on their fucking phone, exactly.
Speaker 1That's what I was telling him. Like it goes through a lot, like we pay for the like, um, like subscription to like edit the camera, the lens, the time we're not getting paid.
Speaker 4Right and we're not getting paid. It's costing me money.
Speaker 1Yeah, Like we're taking exactly like it, Like we're doing it out of you know like passion and shit, and like it's like a slap in the face when those swimmers like why I got to pay you Right.
Speaker 7And we literally give that little them. Yeah, is it insane? Because if it wasn't for the media, we wouldn't have blown up the way we had, exactly.
Speaker 4You won't have that dope ass profile.
Speaker 7Exactly, you wouldn't have the clap that you got All the clips that you'll be posting in your reels. Y'all wouldn't have that shit. Y'all wouldn't have the raw ass edits. Y'all wouldn't have any of that. Y'all wouldn't have content, because you could swing as long as you want.
Speaker 7What you going to post videos of you inside the car, right, I mean, it's a dope POV, don't get me wrong. But who get in the outside shots? You know what I'm saying? It's like I feel like there just needs to be even respect all around in the car scene, because we all play a part. The spectators play a part, the swingers play a part, media plays a part, hosts play a part and everybody has to stay in their lane. But respect everybody else, because I know a lot of people talk shit on spectators. A lot of people say when I ask them what they wish they could change, we have a lot of controversy because a lot of people say that swingers I mean not the swingers, sorry, the spectators they say they're the worst, they're the problem, but then we have people that say they're the best and they don't got to change.
Speaker 1I honestly, because of the content I produced, I love them because they're the ones that get the vibe going. You know what I mean? They're the ones that I don't know how to put it, but they're literally the ones that put on a low show.
Speaker 7They put the vibe outside of the car.
Speaker 1Yeah, create the environment People jumping around like a firework or like dancing, like that's literally. I started shooting more of that, rather than the cars, I mean obviously the whole scene and everything, but they play a big part.
Speaker 7Because you can actively see the enjoyment and you can see the happiness that the car scene creates Exactly.
Speaker 5I always thought like with this, if we had these spectators in LA, that'd be different. La would be live every week.
Speaker 1they have Over there they're very like. I mean, I haven't been there in a long time, but when I had went everyone's very like. It's not like Chicago. It really isn't like we bring a whole different vibe. I feel like we're just a lot smaller and closer, though.
Speaker 5That's why yeah, in LA they're just kind of like stand and some of them gnaws out. You know what I?
Speaker 1mean they're little balloons. They got their little balloons.
Speaker 5But, like you know, everyone's just kind of just standing around, you know, and soon as one cop would come, everyone kind of runs. But that's LA. It is different in Oakland, you know. But if we had these spectators with those types of drivers, that's probably like would be one of the best environments to really shoot at and get content and have real competition.
Speaker 7So where else have you guys shot it?
Speaker 5San Diego and LA.
Speaker 1I've just shot in LA.
Speaker 7LA and we're talking about car scene. Yeah, like takeovers. Yeah, how would you compare that to the Chicago? They're crazy.
Speaker 5You could tell it's like it's actually what they do. You know what I mean. They're not just out here just to do a tight circle and be like, oh shit, like bro, send me that video, bro, that was crazy bro. Like no, these people are hitting all four corners. You know what I mean. They're on doors. You can see autos like the Lexus boys out there, like they know how to whip it so they'll be in the auto, but they might have a little rollback about six feet just in the auto, just because of how hard they can whip the car. You know what I mean. These people, you know it's just like it's a lot more, like you could tell they've invested a lot of time and like a lot.
Speaker 7Like that's the lifestyle Basically that's where you see the skill Rather than just fun play.
Speaker 5Yeah, that's like the lifestyle, but like out there, you know what I mean, like the daytime, it don't matter, they could be solo out there, they'll do it, it don't matter. It don't matter where they're at, whatever.
Speaker 7See in a lot of, a lot of swingers love to claim like oh, we don't need a, we don't need the spectators, we don't need a crowd.
Speaker 1We don't need a gotta, gotta, gotta.
Speaker 5Yeah, we do that, shit wouldn't be as entertaining they're going to be like oh I don't want to waste no tie, or ain't nobody here?
Speaker 7to see. Yeah, that's the crazy part, because they're. They're on the show.
Speaker 1Literally it's a show, exactly, but if you're out there.
Speaker 5You know what I mean, in a different state, with some drivers. They don't care, it's about them sliding, it's not about other people seeing them slide. And then they're real appreciative when they get some photos, yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah, I just feel like now it's just like super clout, it's just clout.
Speaker 4And I think we overdid it, man. Like we had that stretch, we were doing it three days and three nights a week. Yeah, on a Monday.
Speaker 1Really there is one on a Monday. No, I went to that one. Is it like?
Speaker 7that no, oh, my God I was about to say that, oh, 20, 21. We used to do Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Sunday. But the crazy thing is, we were able to hold this.
Speaker 5Next to an independence. We don't damn near the whole week.
Speaker 7Yeah, 20, 21,. I remember that Mexican independence was the whole week and I remember, I believe, and Cinco de Mayo as well. We was the whole weekend and I think I want to say it was this year, I don't think it was 2022. Was Cinco de Mayo? The meet was asked.
Speaker 1It was both of these last two years.
Speaker 7I'm not going to cat For sure this year Because I think I only went to two spots Did we go. I remember we went right.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, we went to two spots where, like this is disgusting, I rarely ever pop out.
Speaker 7Rarely, I think I popped out to maybe two to three car meets this whole year and that includes Cinco de Mayo and Mexican Independence Day and Cinco de Mayo. I remember not being able to hold a single spot. I remember getting out the whip and boom, we all running away.
Speaker 1already I'm going to put the fuck. It was one intersection that did it, and then Ford.
Speaker 5I mean the host burned it.
Speaker 1Like I know, you know we could talk about Ford right now.
Speaker 5He don't like Ford either. Yeah, ford's pretty mid.
Speaker 1I am good for drivers, it's good for the drivers, but for media it's just like a.
Speaker 7I don't bring on my camera. They like the lot period.
Speaker 2So wait, did I just hear you complain about Ford?
Speaker 1I did. I'm sorry, I'm a Ford hater. I'm a Ford city hater. The only reason why is because it's just too dark in there.
Speaker 4It's way too dark yeah there's only really one spot at Ford that's lit up enough for photos.
Speaker 1I know exactly where it is too.
Speaker 2But see, that's a part of the underground. See, y'all got to get some night vision goggles on that bitch or something.
Speaker 1We're doing too much. Now, exactly, we're doing way too much now.
Speaker 7We was just talking about how people be asking for too much with all the money they put into it, and you can say talk about some, buy a night vision camera.
Speaker 1Exactly For real hood.
Speaker 7I'm going to call you out on your bullshit.
Speaker 2I mean I'm just saying, man, like, first off, you can't call me out, because when I was Christmas coming up.
Speaker 7They all want that night vision. Yeah thanks, I'm broke.
Speaker 5He should have broke.
Speaker 2The takeovers took all my money in 2021. I was spending thousands of dollars to come out there bringing out them flower cones. That shit not cheap.
Speaker 7Not you saying that your job ain't cheap, but trying to get them to buy more expensive equipment.
Speaker 2Look, look, look.
Speaker 7I'm not trying to get them to buy more expensive anything, I just he just said y'all better put some night goggles on that shit, Didn't he?
Speaker 2Yeah, but that was just from like.
Speaker 7Like, like, like, yeah, you cut, watch out.
Speaker 2Watch out, you getting. You getting a little too big for your britches. I don't let you sit in the big ball seat Now. You want to play crazy Watch out, but no, like. I only said that because, like when motherfuckers go to Ford, that should be all time to enjoy it if y'all can't get no real picture.
Speaker 1No, yeah, I definitely Just intermission. I love it. Don't be a Ford hater.
Speaker 2I'm a Ford hater just in like photo-wise, If you give us Ford tomorrow as a legal pit. I'm there every night.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, I love the vibe there. It's like really fun. It's like so much is going on, but like photo-wise, like I don't. You can never get like a good, I guess, photo or video.
Speaker 4It is hard.
Speaker 1It's really hard, yeah. And then like it's just like, it's also like not, I don't know how to say this, but it's just like it's just a lot. You know what I mean. Like it's not interesting, no building's in the background you got JC.
Speaker 7Penney in the background there you go what you got a whole fucking mall Right, but that's no, nobody want that and they flicked. Sponsored by JC Penney. Be fucking for real.
Speaker 2Literally. I love to see it because sponsored by Sears. I grew up on it. I grew up with Sears. Sears don't even exist no more, but I can see the Sears sign in the picture.
Speaker 7Let's go. They be like OK, fuck this hellcat that just hit a rollback in a fucking auto. Let me go to Sears, though you see it no.
Speaker 2I'm looking at the rollback in the auto and he's rolling back on Sears because that bitch gone.
Speaker 7And now he said he's RIP Sears.
Speaker 1Yeah, no, Ford is like a really fun spot, but camera-wise I'm out.
Speaker 4Were you guys there when they did it on the AMC side when Geese was here. He could be mad. I called him that, geese, my boy Geese, he could be that Fees.
Speaker 1When was that?
Speaker 4That was when they were just here with the.
Speaker 1In.
Speaker 2September. We haven't been since Mexico right. Who.
Speaker 4They called Fees, fees, fees is crazy. It was just recent.
Speaker 2Fees is crazy, if somebody did call Foo Feesie.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, we did go. No, not, we didn't go to that.
Speaker 4I don't remember if I saw. Ok remember, no, we didn't go there.
Speaker 1I haven't been since Mexico Independence, so whenever that was.
Speaker 4It would have been, yeah, december, and that was or don't. That was insane.
Speaker 1September they were going crazy in Ford.
Speaker 5I usually don't even go to Ford anymore, if they call it to be honest.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 5But I kind of just skip it, and if it's another missed spot after that it's that's the night. That is the night. We need. We need better spots, we need more streets, more intersections.
Speaker 4I don't fuck with these spots. They're 30 minutes away from each other either, Dude.
Speaker 7No, yeah, that should be killing everything. I just be going home after that.
Speaker 2For real. Hey, I saw that. Listen, you go to Cali, that's what it's like. I ain't been yet, but everybody else.
Speaker 3They did not like that, so everybody I talk to from Cali be like one that should be further and further away.
Speaker 2Just, we burnt this city up. Go to the next.
Speaker 1Maybe now, but like when I had went, maybe when you went, like they were like dude, five minutes apart, 10. Yeah, 10 minutes, 10 minutes max. None of my shoes, literally we were aimed for 10 minutes.
Speaker 7It was 10. 15 was pushing it and five was like how much do we want to play with 12 tonight?
Speaker 5You got to fill up twice if you go out in Chicago now.
Speaker 1You got to fill up two new times Going back and forth. It ain't like that over there, though I'd be getting mad as hell about it, Dude, when they be taking us like damn near to Indiana. Y'all know that one spot.
Speaker 5The whole G times like close to Indy.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're like literally passing that? Yeah, no, that's crazy. And then they're like lumber right after I'm like dude, it's 40 minutes, Bro like. I'm like.
Speaker 7I'll just go home. So I know, it was kind of like I want to say dissing the swingers, Just trying to tell y'all, I guess, to take a step back. But coming back to your favorite swingers, name three swingers and something you would want to see them swinging other than what they swing now. Oh.
Speaker 2Ooh.
Speaker 5I just want to see all the Mopar guys in actual buckets that are manual.
Speaker 7OK, clearly OK, ok, specifically.
Speaker 5Joe. I want to see Joe in something that he doesn't care about Because he babies to V a little bit. You know what I mean.
Speaker 6I know he's cautious, I know he has the skill to whip it Crazy.
Speaker 5Pause, but whip it crazy in like a GS or a G or something. I mean something manual, something crazy, but then put on a real show him boxes. If they were both in buckets they'll really chase each other.
Speaker 7Damn, that's crazy. Wait, I just realized y'all don't have a bottle crack today. That's why you so chill hood. Normally you out here screaming and shitting to the mic.
Speaker 2I was drinking tequila before I got here, not enough.
Speaker 7That's crazy, y'all. The first one for you is not bringing a bottle. Sorry, I just really peeped that, but continue.
Speaker 1No, I'm going to be drinking that bottle Dude? I don't, even I don't. I'm sorry to be honest, I don't really know Swinger's names, like that or like really.
Speaker 7Cars question mark.
Speaker 1Well, like cars, like what I would like to see, like what type of cars you could do that. Yeah, I guess more buckets, like more I guess manual cars and stuff, and I don't know. Like this is my opinion, unpopular opinion, but like, let me shut up. I feel like you're tired of seeing Mopar Yep there you go, thank you, she has to say it. No, like I am, I'm not going to lie. I'm like it's just like it's.
Speaker 1It was nice and it's cool, but like I don't know, like a little IS up in there a little something. It's so different. Yeah a. Z a G.
Speaker 5Chicago's the home of Mopar. So all the cities that I look at and that I've been to all of them. Chicago has a Mopar down the block. Right after that one, right after that one, I go to Cali, and Cali there was no Mopar. I saw one Scat Now is it? I go to the East Coast none.
Speaker 1Exactly.
Speaker 5Yeah, they don't have that out there I don't know, I really don't, it's just a super comment out here, super super comment. So they all look the same.
Speaker 7So there's a question, nick, you said ooh, when we asked it. So who are your swingers?
Speaker 2You know why they all super common here? Because they all fucking stole them, everybody riding in a fucking stolen All the ones that are out now.
Speaker 5yeah, we need to steal better cars. What was the question again?
Speaker 7So three swingers you would want to see in a different car, other than the one they swing now. Yeah.
Speaker 4I don't like that question. I got to name three.
Speaker 7Name as many as you want, what you want to see him in.
Speaker 2All right, put some boots.
Speaker 4This is actually a hard question.
Speaker 7That's a good question. I know you want to shoot those.
Speaker 5Cali cars like a Trans Am.
Speaker 4Yeah, I want more like G8s and more bats and you know they're like my boy Chappell bro. He go to my hood. He actually came out and showed out he's like the only good G out here. Well, no, there's who else is out here.
Speaker 5No, he was the only good G out here. Well, Tay had a G yeah. For like a couple weeks I do shoot with that Just. I asked how many couple of me's. It looked nice, so he had the nicest G8. Yeah, yeah, that's true, he had the nicest.
Speaker 2G8. Uh, it was a piece of shit, oh my God.
Speaker 4It's rusty as hell.
Speaker 2No, no, no, Tay my son, I'm going to keep talking shit.
Speaker 4Then my father had electrical issues. He really thinking I know Well, I want to answer this.
Speaker 5You want to see that box Chevy out in Cali. Yeah, that type of vibe yeah.
Speaker 7You need a minute.
Speaker 4Yeah, come back to me.
Speaker 7OK, he quit.
Speaker 4Shut up.
Speaker 7You had about five minutes to think about it. But it's OK, ventura, I know you've got a little.
Speaker 5Z out there. You ever think about swinging it. I have. I have at Ford. I got a full of it. You fun to see it.
Speaker 7I wasn't there to see it. I'm disappointed.
Speaker 5I was at figure eights one night too at a private in Ford and like the entire Ford that was fun. That's why I could see why Ford is so fun for drivers. But that car's low key kind of boring.
Speaker 7Damn, that kind of broke my heart. It's kind of boring now.
Speaker 5No, it was dope. It was dope with the time that it had. Damn you, just kicked you out, yeah.
Speaker 4She.
Speaker 7Nick, keep thinking about them. Answers, we waiting, yeah.
Speaker 1Nick.
Speaker 7All right 10 minutes.
Speaker 1He's like I thought y'all forgot no low key.
Speaker 4I want to see all the heavy hitter Mopar guys being something different, like Plum, a team, a team I can say his name. He's out of the scene, he don't care, but you know what. But yeah, I want to see Flores try to swing low key.
Speaker 7That's what I said. I literally called his ass out.
Speaker 4People will die.
Speaker 2No 2024 is going to be great. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, it's coming, coming so.
Speaker 4You know who I want to see in something crazy? The bully himself.
Speaker 2Dusky, dusky, dusky needs to bring the IS back.
Speaker 5Dusky brought a different energy with the IS. Rest in peace, kobe. But not 24 Kobe, but Jay-Z, the king of the ISs. Rest in peace to him. But Dusky would also bring a different energy and he was chasing doors. It's not the same when he's in the stand or the scat at all. True, it's not. He could bring energy in a bucket.
Speaker 2Yeah, that's why these people need buckets.
Speaker 2Yeah, them clapped outers. It'd be a special vibe Because motherfuckers. So my first time seeing a real, real clapped out leak. I was in Tucson, arizona, went up there, for I was in Phoenix. I drove two hours to Tucson because Smurf had put me in tune with some motherfuckers in Tucson and they was having a meet. So I'm a fucking drive. I didn't rent it, a motherfucking RT charge and I'm cutting up on my way out there, 170 all the way there. So I swear to God, motherfucking, get out there, link up with them. Gee, the most clapped out VQ I ever seen. Like it was missing a door. It was missing the motherfucking like the hood. The trunk part was off, all the motherfucking panels on the side of the front. I'm like gee he about to get crazy.
Speaker 2And sure enough, he didn't even wait till motherfuckers left Pre-me. He just started dawg walking that bitch in there and I'm like, oh my God, great night to remember for sure A lot of people don't even know it. Go down in Tucson, they got a slab in the middle of the desert. That's that's what that group chat was. Desert Storm, that's what that's about.
Speaker 4Ok, yeah, well, I could add it to all these random ass chats too. They flagging up my phone, bro, like y'all. Stop adding me to these group chats, yeah lagging the phone is crazy.
Speaker 5Gee, I'll be, I'll be.
Speaker 2I'll be leaving group chat as soon as I get added. If there's more than five people, I'm going to end the most, and most of them are fucking group chat. I'm in with 10 or more. Nobody says nothing, but that's because we all grown and got shit going on.
Speaker 4There's that one chat. It's got 150 people in it. That shit's going off at three or five in the morning.
Speaker 2Muffers ain't doing shit with it Like just bored.
Speaker 4I think that's a problem too. Man, all these new people on the scene, a lot of them. This is all they have. Like, yeah, that's why they're always out, they're always doing shit.
Speaker 2Like. But the see what the problem is, though, these shorties, they somebody then taught them how to scam and do all this other shit so they don't have to work a job. They don't you know what I'm saying. They literally on their phone 24 seven, because that's how they make their money. They, they drop the check, they fucking go get the little 2000. They got three ways. Yeah, they got to drop 50 of them bitches, to make some real money. Like, let that shit go. I can't knock no hustle, though.
Speaker 5Yeah, as long as you guys bring some decent cars out Right, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 2And learn how to dry your shit. You learn how to dry your shit. You do whatever you want to do. I ain't going to talk shit about you or nothing. I just. I just want you to know. I'm a hustler, not a scammer, and I got more respect for hustling than scamming. But if you do it the right way, what can I say If you make a lot of money and don't get caught?
Speaker 5And they make the world go round too. Yeah, for sure, you need them.
Speaker 2Yeah, hey, one of my closest friends is from Russia and if you know, you know, huh, yeah, real, real hacker, if you know, you know. So my question, my question for y'all is there any message that y'all want to leave the community to like? And it could be to the spectators, to the media, to the swingers or to the community as a whole, because the state that the state of the community now is way different and you don't feel the love when you go out there.
Speaker 2You know what I'm saying. Like it's literally everybody versus everybody. So what's something y'all want to tell the community? How can the community get motherfuckers, ogs like y'all see us back outside? What do they need to see from y'all? Well, what do y'all need to see from them? Oh, room over here turning her nose up.
Speaker 1Well, I answered this like an hour ago.
Speaker 2But no, you got to answer it again, but like oh, I answered again. I will answer it again, I want, I want to reiterate as we close out what message would I like to leave?
Speaker 1Um, I don't even know what I said back then. I think I just said like, like, can we just stop beefing?
Speaker 4Yeah, stop making a competition. Yeah, like that's what I meant.
Speaker 1Yeah, stop making everything a competition. Like. At the end of the day, we're just like swinging cars, having fun, like, and like what Jenny said, like, can I see? Okay, good, I don't know that's brilliant. Okay perfect, I didn't I don't know if that was like, because everyone's like don't say names, but like what she, what she has said is like, um, like, can we go back to? Like just like the cars and everything, and just like spectators knowing their place as well, and like also new media too?
Speaker 1And but yeah, like that's, I don't know.
Speaker 2Deflate they big head, basically.
Speaker 1Yeah, like can we just stop clout chasing too?
Speaker 2Get your head out the air.
Speaker 1Yeah, and like I don't know, let's just just go back to vibing. I feel like the love back.
Speaker 5Exactly, I mean with with these.
Speaker 1I have to stop saying your name V, his name out.
Speaker 5Um, we're gonna put it. It's been said.
Speaker 1I've said it like six million times. Like don't say his name. Bleep, bleep bleep.
Speaker 5I mean, if we have been like these, these different scenes merging like party, and you know the takeover scene, then we got to make it actually seem like enjoyable, like a party again. You know what I mean. Like we can't just have like all the people come at the end of a party and now everyone wants to get serious and do all that, and now they're drunk, so you bump into a woman now or something. You know what I mean.
Speaker 5Like if they're going to come from a party and we want to do all these merging, then let's make it like how it was back then, like, like, literally like a party, because if nobody was swinging, we were there, we was in the middle of a big party.
Speaker 2We were enjoying it.
Speaker 5We'll go in the pit. Everybody going to the pit.
Speaker 4Everybody dancing this speaker Yo hey, shout out my boy Scotty. Dude Scotty.
Speaker 2Scotty, scotty, scotty, hey, scotty, the motherfucking that run up on you with a fifth and be like here, take it. Yeah, let's fucking go.
Speaker 4Bro was on house rest for like three years. Yeah, Shit's nuts Shout out Scotty.
Speaker 1What message would you leave, nick, both of you.
Speaker 2Yeah, I was going to say Nicky. I tell you, I've told this message a thousand times.
Speaker 4Yeah, just stop. Stop trying to be better than people. Stop being in competition. A lot of y'all are in secret competition with each other. That's the fucked up part, you know. And back, so you know you new host and media y'all, y'all got to earn your title.
Speaker 1There you go.
Speaker 4Earn it. I'm going to say this right now Followers don't mean shit. You can have 80,000 followers and be a shitty fucking photographer.
Speaker 1You know, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4These reels like, like, oh my God, it's like because I busted my ass to get 10,000 followers. That was like right before reels came out, I busted my ass to get the K dude. I was one of the first ones that, as soon as these reels came out, motherfucking little joey over here, or little Timmy over here, has got 30, 40,000 followers because of his iPhone video. That you know it's and you know.
Speaker 1And then what's crazy is that they're like I'm charging.
Speaker 3I'm charging for videos. Right, you're trying to charge for a reel. I'm like you're charging.
Speaker 1I'm like, I'm not even fucking charging.
Speaker 3I'm like I'm not even charging Charge for a shout out.
Speaker 1Yeah, and that's what I mean. That's just clout, it's just all clout. I think we should drop the clout, drop the beef, the competition and just get back to the like, the vibes and bring the love back.
Speaker 4There, you go.
Speaker 1That's the moral of the story.
Speaker 4I used to shake up with a hundred people on the weekend. Man, I had these meats. Now I don't really talk to anybody. I guess keep to myself type shit, because bro I don't want snakes on the ground.
Speaker 1None of us do.
Speaker 2I mean come outside and pan to keep telling me come outside, come outside he's still outside.
Speaker 1Of course, he started coming forever, did he?
Speaker 5See if Panda's back, I'm back. No, it's not the same. This deal not the same.
Speaker 2Folks came up here we had a damn near two hour interview yesterday and folks was like, yeah, it's just, it's different. But we outside, we big outside, and I'm like man, gee, we gotta put the reins on this shit and get it together. Yeah.
Speaker 2Like I just want y'all to know it was a pleasure having y'all. Thank you, and y'all more than welcome to come back when the fuck ever. I want to let this be clear. So just because this is your first time, don't make it your last. Like the conversations was really dope and flowing and like the passion that y'all share. That's why I like having Nick here with media come, because it's things that he could talk about that I don't quite necessarily understand. You know what I'm saying? Or, leon, as long as one of the guys from media is here, when media is here, it really makes the conversation a real firecracker piece, and that's what y'all gave me today, and I'm so happy that Nicholas talked into the mic for a change.
Speaker 7We're gonna have to disinfect that, because that's my mic right there.
Speaker 4And he just blew into. Is that why it?
Speaker 7smells all fucking weird. Now it smells like Nick. I don't know if I like that.
Speaker 2Yeah, man, but it was definitely a vibe with y'all. I'm in this bitch with just Nick fucking room and in next Ventura like goat shit.
Speaker 1God did the applause now.
Speaker 2Which one is it.
Speaker 1I don't know, I don't remember.
Speaker 2There we go, I found it. I found it. Actually, that was laughing.
Speaker 4Oh my God, there we go. Oh, the rule of the way he don't know. I said all these shit's up.
Speaker 2But yeah, y'all tuning in to the rollback show and we rolling the fuck out man. Yeah, yeah, huh. Niggas looking salty.
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