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Hot Takes - Diving into Digital Realms

Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 25

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Ever found yourself questioning the very fabric of reality in our AI-infused world? That's the rabbit hole we're leaping headfirst into, as we spar with disinformation's dark arts and the genuine perplexity of artificial intelligence. Imagine a society where deep fakes make you double-take at your own memories and where the boundary between human essence and binary code is as blurred as a UFO sighting. We've rolled up our sleeves to debate these digital dilemmas, armed only with our sharpest wit and an unwavering belief in the power of critical thinking.

Join us for a whirlwind tour across a landscape of random ruminations, where we're as likely to dissect AI's future as we are to debunk a conspiracy theory or two. With our guests, we're flinging open the doors to all topics - from the Supreme Court's dynamics to the murky depths of the Titanic's true story - while keeping the mood as light as an astronaut's first spacewalk. It's not all serious business though; we meander through Hollywood trivia and the enigma of octopuses, proving that learning can indeed be a laughter-laden affair.

Rounding off this eclectic escapade, we reflect on the shifting sands of knowledge that COVID-19 has left in its wake, embracing our own tech faux pas with a chuckle. As we stumble over our podcast's email address and the digital breadcrumbs of listener feedback, we invite you to chuckle right along with us. So, if you're up for something different - where the insights pack a punch, and the chuckles are free - you've found your tribe. Hit play and let's keep the conversation as lively as a cage match with Nicolas Cage himself.

Navigating Disinformation and Artificial Intelligence

Dylan

On a desolate, frozen tundra surrounded by mindless, brain numbing cold takes, two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience brad and dylan's hot takes. Here we go again. Again whoa, that's how to open fucking martin yawning into the microphone at 11 pm On a thursday night. Brad, how do you feel about that? I don't like it. Take, hot takes. This show fuck. How do I feel about this Hot takes.

Brad

I'm really sad to see people are disenchanted, denialistic and depressed, and anxious and aimless and and perverse and it's never gonna get old.

Dylan

Why is he sad that they're perverse? I don't know. Are you supposed to be perverted? I don't know, I don't know that it makes me sad. Oh, he means like in another type of way, all right, so we don't do this don't don't what. I already know what's gonna happen.

Martin

No, you don't okay continue.

Dylan

We all know that I'm struggling with figuring out if the world is flat or not. Oh my goodness. Okay, let's go, let's do it, and I and now I've I've seen these videos when they're time-lapse stabilized cameras- Mm-hmm and how did that go?

Dylan

gimbals, I can't those. I can't figure out how, the how the world tilts like that. If it's flat, our viewers don't know what we're looking at. It's, it's. It's how the earth actually rotates, because it's a. It's a I fucking glow. It's a I, you fucking is it. Did they just get me again? They got you again. Aliens.

Martin

Oh, you got, you got it, you get, you get, you have aliens he's job. Aliens got me Squeak, really, king.

Dylan

It's been a while so are we just to the point where we can't believe anything anymore? No, there's always been disinformation. Uh, disinformation is a big thing right now.

Martin

Yeah there's always been disinformation. I haven't been for the last. Wow, seven, eight years. Okay, so it's more than that.

Dylan

So we talked about critical thinking a lot, yeah, and so it used to be in in writing or news or something like that. We could be like Something sounds a little fishy about that. Let's, let's go do some research on it now. It's more in your guys's room where you're having these deep fakes and and voiceovers and things like that. Don't put this on programming. It is on programming, but it's all. But it's also the only way to solve it is there are people like you Back in the 1700s you know what?

Martin

don't fucking point fingers at me, like I was at nixon side.

Dylan

Oh sorry, not the 17 1800s that said this about the printing press. Information's moving too fast If you listen to the second part.

Brad

I didn't say it was your douche bag fault.

Dylan

I said, the only way to really Get to the point that it is disinformation is also, through the, the coding process, what you think ones and zeros are gonna figure it out. How else do you figure it out? This just goes back to the debate you and I had that one time which is it are humans, ones and zeros? Are they more than that?

Dylan

This is not a human though this is a video or a audio take. Yeah, so Computers are ones and zeros. We're not at gi, we're at ai, artificial intelligence. And again there's a, there's a. Ai is a very fun buzzword for wall street, right now because it involves lots of dollars behind your name.

Random Conversations on Various Topics

Dylan

There's difference between a very sophisticated algorithm ai and then gi. Very sophisticated algorithm is we found a very complex pattern and we cracked the code. We're a chess player. Ai is we actually have some movement within some parameters to be able to figure out things on our own. And then gi is general intelligence. So, or nowhere near general intelligence. Yeah, that's gonna take a while. All I'm saying is that if somebody you're wrong.

Brad

Good, thank you. Bye. I cast over.

Dylan

That's not how that wanted to go for you, was it? Nope, sure wasn't continue.

Martin

Everybody's nice. Yeah, sorry guys.

Dylan

My thoughts are irrelevant. Oh oh, this is when he starts doing the false dichotomy us versus them. He loves to point other people out, but then he gets all moody, judy, on us moody.

Martin

Judy, oh, I like that one.

Brad

That's you suddenly. I'm less.

Martin

Moody.

Dylan

Judy, we should get a voice modulator for that. You should just give me the button, so I could push it whenever I want.

Martin

Cranky Frankie. My god, okay, we're waiting what no, that was it, that was it no, clearly, ai, yeah, gi, yeah, clearly.

Dylan

This is all general intelligence algorithm. Yeah, one zeros. Yeah, clearly the sophisticated algorithm. You could have no way of going back in and referencing that that was created by somebody and wasn't actually a real thing. That's not what we were saying. That's what you just told me, because that's the fucking point.

Brad

I was trying to make that. You cut me off.

Dylan

I was giving you distinctions. You were broadly generalizing.

Martin

No, I was not.

Dylan

Abigail Shrier from last episode.

Martin

No what.

Dylan

So be better. Make some distinctions, dear Abigail, continue, go for it, say your words, be a man or woman, whatever you want to be push it down. Just shut that shit. Man. Martin likes to say put it in your body. I like to say push it down in your body, oh hey feelings?

Martin

Okay, they don't matter. I'm sorry, right, it's alright.

Dylan

Are we going with all this? I wasn't going anywhere. We're talking about AI taking over the world.

Martin

No, why is Martin shivering over there?

Dylan

I'm always cold. Hmm, I did turn the air off because the age packets in the audio Can't be cold. This is Takes. Thank you see what you did there. You guys want to talk about Christian nationalist Supreme Court judges. No, okay, not today. You don't like the earth's rotating.

Martin

Oh, we like the earth. Yeah, that's real.

Dylan

Yeah, I think so, pretty sure, yeah, I think so. Didn't the Vatican's Chief archivist, the, just retire and he spilled some beans? It wasn't like a thing that it's flat, no, that. Maybe they persecuted Galileo a little too early in life.

Martin

Galileo, Galileo. They did that to everybody.

Dylan

Galileo. How much of it. I mean those. Those guys were the first OGs dude persecution. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I mean not the first, but like the smartest ones, you know. The first kid you, you're a bit the Vatican. No I mean, we've established this. I'm not fucking been. Yeah, sorry, okay, you go. You've been the Vatican. Yeah, you go there. It's and it's it's. Don't. Don't get me wrong.

Martin

It's, it's actually really small. It's isn't weird that's, but it's also big.

Dylan

It's small, but big. Yeah it's weird, good really.

Martin

Mm-hmm, really.

Dylan

You're just a powder.

Martin

Sip, sip your energy.

Dylan

All I get the one I go, I go. Hmm, this is the original mob. This is you know, oh yeah this is Tony Soprano sitting right in the. Right yeah, Hmm but then you're like, where all this, what all this marble come from me? Where'd all this marble come from? And they're like oh, we took it from the cows the Coliseum. You're like what? Like yeah, the Coliseum is dirty because they took all the marble from it. That's just the structure underneath it. Kind of books Do you think they have there?

Dylan

where in the Vatican New D magazines.

Martin

Gazine day it's.

Dylan

I guarantee you they have the pope. I guarantee you they are like the Library of Congress. They've got one of everything, and that includes Playboy 74 June. Playboy 74 July. Playboy 74.

Martin

August, the. What about that's a hot take. What?

Dylan

about older stuff. Are we talking about, like Leo and Kate on the Titanic, older or no? Like library of?

Martin

like painting, like one of your French girls?

Dylan

Oh, no, french rules. Hmm, did you guys watch the Titanic?

Martin

Yeah, yeah, okay.

Dylan

Oh, they have the original copy button. Which one hot take, hot takes. Titanic didn't sink. Is that a real one right now? Is that? Is that that's, that's a hot take, a truthy, or?

Martin

false either. That's Brad's back here. It's been a theory, there's a theory that?

Dylan

well, the theory is that the boat that sank was not the Titanic. And what was the deep six there, like what was the whole point? It was the what was the point? Russia.

Martin

No, cuz, this was my insurance 1912. Insurance. It's probably insurance Ponzi schemes in 1912.

Dylan

Who would? Have thought, but it had to do with the, you know the three boats that were all like so well there that it was all the Nina. I love it. I love where that went. That was good, I Wish.

Dylan

That's funny yeah speaking of those big ships, we learned, we learned about the Civil War submarine the other day. Really, yes, like we're talking like Nick Cage national treasure submarine, which one was that? That was number one when, like that's how the treasure got out, what treasure? Nick Cage national treasure? That was not number one. The Resolute desk. The Resolute desk.

Martin

Wait, no, that was that was that was to. That had to be those number two was it, was it?

Dylan

Oh, it was number two so. The Hunley book of secrets, the Hunley H-u-n-l-e-y. This is the ship name submarine. It was named after the designer, uh short, but you know.

Martin

Was a made of wood or steel.

Dylan

No steel so 40 feet long. I launched July 1863, shipped by rail to Charleston. So it was At that point they were. They were barely submerged Underwater. It was more like a floaty. It kind of looked like a log.

Martin

Yeah cuz you gotta get more zos fumes out more.

Dylan

Did it have a motor, if they have it's? So I going through this when I still look like that was Thor. The idea of submarines has gone back to like, uh, like 1400-1500 or something like that DaVinci, davinci for sure and yeah, essentially they were just boats that somehow they got to go.

Martin

Guess what under the water? You know, and they still rode them.

Dylan

You know what? I guarantee it Civil War. Submarine copy of that blueprint, vatican, oh, mmm. I don't know about that, cuz they just like in 2005, 2006. Okay, so we're jumping ahead because, spoiler alert it sank three times.

Martin

Did the recover, or they just made it, and that's so I was a charm came from it launched.

Dylan

It sank on August 29th 1863 during a test run, killed five members. They brought it back up October 15th. It killed a all eight members.

Martin

It's gonna be great guys trust us, you'll watch weight deliver it practice, love it.

Dylan

The second time it killed the, the actual creator himself, and then it did the segue guy died yeah segue. Yeah, and then they actually put it into battle. On February 17th of the following year, attacked a 1240 ton United States Navy. Screw sloop of war, screw, screw. So that's the official screw sloop of war Jesus, which we've been naming things wrong which which is.

Dylan

This is what reminded me of it, because it looks more of like the Danic, the Nina and the Pinto, and the same thing, pinto with the pinto, where if you ran into the back of it it blew up. Was it that kind of ship? Mmm, was there? Does a Ford I'll afford? Yeah you can don't get rear-ended in that car I thought it was a gremlin GMC. Was it AMC. Sorry, I'm see gremlin. I don't know if they have the same problem or not?

Brad

Did they have?

Dylan

red licorice on the top the roof? Probably okay, but it sank this thing. So this little 40-foot boat sank this Warship, 19th century warship, the wood warship, but, but unfortunately, where was it fiberglass? No, it would have been a wooden one. Okay, everybody in the submarine died. I Attempting to do this? No, they did it. They did it.

Martin

Why didn't attempt it?

Dylan

One of the original ones is a Kamikaze, but essentially that's what it was. So what they did was they kind of had like a hundred fifty pound black powder torpedo it's going to be great guys On a stick On a stick and they just would float up to the ship. We're just going to ram it up your ass. They just float it up to the ship and then, on contact, the thing exploded. What's the worst thing that could happen? Well, their heads would basically implode from the shockwave.

Martin

That's what happened, so not not good, A little bit like a popcorn effect. Right Hit the button. Which one?

Brad

I'm really sad.

Dylan

Well, that's that's how they felt afterwards. Hot takes, hot takes. Yes, don't set off explosives in a steel tube underwater While you're in the tube. It's not a bad idea. I don't think they knew about ultrasonic frequencies back then, or just frequency general.

Martin

They learned the hard way.

Dylan

They gon' learn today why is their face inside of their skull. But somehow after Pressure it's a weird thing it blew up, it sank, whatever, or everybody died and there was no one to man it. I don't even know if it actually sank itself. It probably just was chilling there, just fine, but the internal pressure? I'm guessing on the first two test runs that it did sink Because it was a bad design. That's your opinion?

Martin

I just think it's amazing they were able to bring it back up.

Dylan

I'm amazed that they went in a second and third time. You think there was a choice. No, okay, I don't, it's great. That's like being an astronaut during or sorry, a cosmonaut during Russia's space program back in the USSR, when they were racing in the United States space. It's like, yes, you're in number two. Yes, sir, I will definitely be in number two. I'm so excited to go to space. I'm like we only killed like 25, 30 dudes, yeah, but if you win that, like it's pretty cool.

Martin

You know, yeah, if you're the winner.

Dylan

So who was the first man in space?

Martin

But like if you win at a submarine, just like I just floated in water and I didn't die.

Dylan

Brad, who's the first man in space? That was a monkey, I didn't say man. I'll give you a hint Name is Shai Yuli.

Martin

Mm-hmm. Negalnikov Shmenknov. Oh, yuli, neguerian, urigagarian, there it is Dummy air.

Dylan

Okay, so how hard was that? First man on the moon? Not Armstrong, buzz Aldrin, it was Armstrong.

Martin

Oh, it was Armstrong.

Dylan

Yeah, they were together, though no, no, no, no, no, damn it, buzz Aldrin was.

Brad

Wait, wait.

Dylan

Buzz Aldrin was the second man in space. For the United States he was third overall, but nobody ever went to the moon. Oh fuck, I forgot.

Martin

Hot takes oh hot takes yeah.

Dylan

Yeah, Didn't happen. Did you ever see Eyes Wide Shut? I'm just saying same guy which one?

Martin

Stanley Kubrick. Oh, I thought you were talking about Cruz. He might have been on it.

Dylan

Are we talking about the last samurai? Again, I might be an alien. Oh yeah, I mean it could be.

Martin

When he dies, he's definitely a man Because he got his own planet.

Dylan

He's not like when Tommy Lee is like. Elvis isn't dead, he just went home, yeah. Oh yeah, I thought you were Mollye Crue. Aliens, tommy Lee, I didn't say aliens, no, no, also Sorry, never mind.

Martin

Zing yeah. Submarines.

Dylan

When did Age of Death? He died very quickly after that. He's 34 years old.

Martin

Who Geek Aaron?

Dylan

Did they really go to the moon? Who? Russians never been to the moon. They made it to space. They haven't made it to the moon. Chinese go to the moon.

Martin

No, no who. Recently the Japanese made it to the moon?

Dylan

Did they? Did they take a rover?

Martin

Yes, how did they go?

Dylan

India made it to space. Japan made Sorry India made it to space. They were the latest country to go to space that hadn't been to space yet, and that was pretty recent.

Martin

But someone landed on the moon North.

Dylan

Korea. I thought we just, no, we just tipped one over what, or was it us? We just tipped over that rover. No, yeah, we landed a rover on the moon Just in the last three months and it was tipped over. Ooh, who did that? You didn't see this. Oh, this is fascinating. Who did that? I think it was the Abominable Snowman. Do you know how many galaxies there might be? Look at this image. This is the guy explaining to Congress what happened.

Martin

It's like Tommy Boy hey, let's go die while on fire. Your brakes don't work.

Dylan

You imagine showing up with that little guy and you're like, okay, this is what happened. We came in the velocity was a little hot on the way into reentry and we think when the legs gave out they know it's not completely over because they have telemetry data, but it's just slightly above horizontal or parallel.

Dylan

How much does Columbia have to pay to put the logo on that On the side of the rover? But yeah, they think it's. Oh, I don't know if that's actually a legit photo or not, but it's definitely tipped over. That's fake, this one? Yeah, anytime there's foil, foil is an easy one.

Martin

Yeah, conspiracy theories but look at how, yeah, that's bad, that's fake.

Dylan

Look at it, look at it.

Brad

Look at it.

Dylan

See how that looks like the moon. It's not the moon. Is that Russia?

Martin

Yeah.

Dylan

And you see how all of that stuff in space that is tin foil, that's not, it's so good. And then it tipped over and we did not foresee that happening. It'll probably bring COVID 2.0 back home. And when it tipped over, it made me really sad.

Brad

I'm really sad, really sad.

Martin

So, that's exciting. Moral of the story kids Don't go to space.

Brad

Don't go to space? Yeah, would you go to space?

Dylan

No, would you go to space? I would go to space before I would get in a submarine.

Brad

You and I are on the same page, not going in a fucking submarine.

Aliens, Octopuses, and Space Chat

Dylan

No, I had a yeah. Do you know what could be in space Aliens Avatar? Do you know what are for sure underwater?

Brad

Landmines.

Dylan

Ooh, well, they're not landmines if they're in water.

Martin

Water mines Okay.

Dylan

There's definitely aliens underwater. Ooh, hot tanks, octopuses are aliens. Yeah, it seems fair, that's all that, that one got. Semi-scientifically proven. All of that one got. What about jellyfish? No, because octopuses don't Octopi.

Martin

Yeah, it's octopi.

Dylan

Learn to speak Latin, you. Why not octa cake? Uneducated fuck, oh boy. Why not octasufle?

Brad

Because there's no egg.

Dylan

What is it that they? There is some unknown origin DNA in them. Are we talking about your son?

Brad

or are we talking about no?

Dylan

no, no, no, Ze Yikes. Okay, so now we're going to talk about the alabama thing.

Martin

No, we're not segwayed quite yet.

Dylan

All right, I'm not done with this one yet. All right, that's what I've heard. You didn't let Martin answer submarine or?

Martin

Oh no, Space is good. I'm going to go with space Bungie jump or skydive.

Dylan

Skydive.

Martin

Skydive yeah.

Dylan

Okay.

Martin

Okay.

Dylan

Go to space. You have to hang out in the space station for a week, dude, once you're in space, like, oh, mm-mm, mm-mm, I'm Strap me to that rocket.

Brad

I will. That's not how that works.

Dylan

I will do the dangerous thing, which is go up there. You're not a fucking Tesla. But the moment, the moment I get to the space station, I want to peek my head in for five seconds and go cool, did it. And then I want to get back on the ship and I want to go straight back to Earth. If you told me I hang out on that space station for a week, hmm, that's no bueno for me. I don't know if I'd do well with that. I would not do well at the space station. I feel like I'd throw up the whole time. I think as long as long as that little rocket ship was moving towards, whatever I was going to, I'd be good. I'd be like, ok, we're making progress, we're going to throw up on that too.

Dylan

Yeah, no, I would throw up in the space station because I would just be so mad to find out that the world was not flat. Damn it. Oh, they got me again. Octopuses are aliens, or at least so vastly different in their genetic makeup that they might as well be considered out of this world. Hmm, those do. They mapped the first genome, octopus genome project.

Martin

As of when.

Dylan

Don't make me do things. Why research Chromebook boy? Oh, 2024 Island Bay Marine Education Center. Hmm, she say mammogram center. Oxpuses have 33,000 genes, roughly 10,000 more than a human. Seems legit.

Martin

And you've seen those things slip through a crack that's like like a dime size?

Dylan

Have you seen them camouflage themselves from one instant to the next? No, you really. Yeah, I have. They're amazing. Look at me. Hmm, I'm well read and they're smart. And did you know that they I don't know if this is true for all of the species. Let's say, you're, you're swimming in some reefs and you see some of the smaller ones, they only live for a year. Yes, this is true. That's wild. Hmm, think of, think of the shit that is in their DNA that allows them to do all of the things they do, and they only live for a year. Yeah, the instincts built in, so you say programmed.

Dylan

Yeah, Drogenically programmed Aliens, eugenics, genics. I think of an eye camouflage. Can we talk about some really, really pressing things in this world right now? Hot takes Great Hit it. Nick Cage has an Academy Award for what? Leaving Las Vegas 1996. As he should. It was fantastic, that was, but if you showed your DNA you would have been a real genius. That was what if you showed your children a Nick Cage movie that wasn't leaving Las Vegas and you said that he has the creme de la creme of acting awards. Bullshit, face off. Hmm.

Film Theory and Martial Arts Talk

Martin

I heard they're going to face off to Connair Put the bunny back. But what's the bees one? What's the bees one? He was also in the rock.

Dylan

Oh, the rocks.

Martin

So there's a Amazing.

Dylan

So there's a, there's a whole like conspiracy theory or yeah, I take that Spirits Hot takes that Sean Connery is actually.

Dylan

So there's a there's a long game there 007, james Bond. They give James Bond 007 to the new guy and it's, it's not just one person. James Bond is an amalgamation of many guys, and that because in the rock he alludes to the fact that he was at my six at one point. He's retired, he's his own thing. So it's when the Sean Connery James Bond is retired, he goes off and does his own thing and he becomes Nick Cage's mentor in the rock, like so he was. He was James Bond and it's an extension of the James Bond.

Dylan

And then Nick Cage goes on to be James Bond, james Bond and the franchise, and he wins another Academy Award. He doesn't, but he does go on to make National Treasure, which is Archie.

Brad

Lee.

Dylan

Bond S it's a lot of this. It's a lot of same tactics. Who's the girl in last or?

Martin

Lady Las.

Dylan

Vegas no National Treasure. Oh yeah, she is God. What is it? She's cutie. I can't remember the name. You better tell it right now. Tell it to me, I'm looking for a hurry up. Abigail Chase Diane Krueger.

Martin

Diane Krueger. I knew it was a K Krueger. I knew it was a. What else is?

Dylan

she in? Um, I was a real Elizabeth Shoe fan Back in the day. Oh, you've talked about this with me. No, I haven't miss you. Oh, you don't know. You're probably in a robot chicken too. Why was she in it? No, yes, she was. Oh, I did like robot chicken for a brief minute, yeah no, but that like that movie, in particular like her as sex worker.

Martin

Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about leaving Las Vegas.

Dylan

Oh, I can't remember that movie at all, mmm. Yeah, nick Cage couldn't either, cuz he was drunk the whole time.

Martin

Oh god, really played the part.

Dylan

You know, that's a terribly sad movie. I don't remember it, just kidding, it was a comedy. What was a comedy? Leaving Las Vegas, was it? It was sad. Spoiler alert he never left. I fucking died there.

Martin

Oh, alcoholic why did I do that like that?

Dylan

What cuz? It's like 40 years old, 96?. Don't project your old man vibes on me. I mean it's pretty old. Maybe you know who's not ever aged. Hot takes Steven Segel.

Brad

Still, still has it still has it.

Dylan

Oh my god, dude, I see the videos of him all the time just dude sucks, taking kids down left and right. Yeah, what's the video where he's dancing? Oh my, he's like fight dancing oh well, tom Segura remade that. What did you not see that? Oh, I did, yeah, okay amazing. Well, bert made the fat man Facing video. And then Tom Segura did, did that where he he took off the.

Martin

Plate Steven. Oh my goodness, what's going on in that one? Oh right, why is this?

Dylan

Guys gone in 60 seconds. Mmm yeah, great documentary. Guy that goes undercover just to help his brother out. What Nick Cage goes undercover? Yeah, he returns to a life of crime.

Martin

I hope it's not undercover.

Dylan

It was undercover because he had to go undercover, otherwise the cops were gonna know what he was up to. How is he undercover? He was incognito. Did you even watch that movie? Yeah, a million times. He threw baking soda on the fucking skillet he was making to make sure that the grease fire didn't go.

Martin

Pretty sure you start my gun in 60 seconds of grease fire big rig.

Dylan

Is that your big rig wrecker?

Martin

out there.

Dylan

I like the best the best line in the movie yeah, exactly that's what I'm talking about. Don't come at me. But yeah, that's my big ring wrecker, I'm just just dragged. You gotta go truck driving school. This is Russian dancing and it's so bad. How does he not just have it this? Look at this. Oh, how was this guy ever taken seriously? What? What is the martial arts that he practices? I, I, don't is it I keto?

Martin

He's an I keto guy I keto Say karate, that's about the family man guys.

Dylan

He's in so many good movies. I Mean under siege, not Steven Seagal.

Martin

Is there a receipt?

Dylan

So, martin, oh growing up Nicholas.

Martin

Cage. Oh, you're talking about Nick. I thought you were.

Dylan

Was there any predominant martial arts in your family or anywhere near you? Was there over a movement for any of the old? I poke.

Martin

II yeah, but the throat yeah, I Just kickbox in kickbox in Muay Thai, mm-hmm.

Dylan

Yeah, what is that? Don't get anywhere near their fucking legs. No, it's like a horse. You just don't walk behind a horse because you just gonna get smoked. That's shit scares. What the tie I Watched. I watched a video the other day of this girl that was Like fake kicking. So she would extend her leg like she would kick you like around waist height, mm-hmm, and then just snap it right at head height like you imagine that you'd be like huh, and then you're just out cold.

Dylan

Dude, I don't like that and nobody wins unless somebody goes down right Muay Thai.

Martin

Yeah, I've been to has to be outright winner, right, and but they'll stop it, but there has to be like an outright winner. I've been to live fights and I Mean when, when they make connections, it's like and they're doing this nice smelling sauce after which you're like, and then oh, I have some.

Dylan

You want some really dude yeah is it good? Though. No, it's not good. Oh, this isn't gonna be good. I, oh, no, that hurt. You know you don't like the smelling salts. No, why not? You get used to it Boom.

Martin

I mean no, I mean he's done?

Dylan

I mean, like, are they? Is it like a good, like potent one? Have you ever done them? Mm-hmm, oh my god, have you done them? We're gonna do that in upcoming episode, okay. Do you know what cat piss smells like? Oh yeah, multiply it by like a thousand. My sister bought that house. No, I'm, it is just. Have you ever had horse radish or your nose?

Brad

bridge.

Dylan

Yeah, so combine cat piss. Horse radish is Intenses you can think of. Okay, that's what smelling. So I can't, I can't think of the intensity. Okay, because I've not done it. What horse radish? No, no, no, no. Horse Raraj.

Martin

If you take wasabi, same thing, hmm.

Brad

It's.

Dylan

It's like saying have you ever been punched in the face? Yeah, okay, imaginately. Imaginately imagine it infinitely hard.

Martin

Yeah, I can't do that, I'm not practice.

Dylan

No, we're not. We're talking about hitting people in the face. Can practice? Practice hitting people in the face? Yeah, and then when you get in the face, you know what you feel like.

Brad

I'm really sad, yes.

Dylan

I. I'm really sad you don't like it. You ever who I ever ever punch anyone in the face. Hot takes. Kids need to fight more. You're not wrong they definitely need to scrap more. I think if more kids got Hot takes hit in the face, they'd be great by kids.

Dylan

Yeah yeah by by other kids. Oh, it's not cool when we do it. No, okay, no, no. Then we just talk about like I don't want to fight like a Muay Thai fighter, oh, no, no, I want to fight like some other. You know, almost crippled, 40 year old, yeah, that would be. That would be fair. So it Kids, kids need to fight kids. I guess learning violence at a younger age so they don't want to use it when you're older, there's probably better.

Dylan

I think there's yeah. Plus, you gotta learn to be the monster at a young age. God, here we go, here we go. If you're not monster, then you're gonna feel hot takes, hot, hot takes no really sad, really sad, disenchanted. Yeah.

Brad

I was too can depressed and anxious and aimless, and and perverse and vengeful.

Dylan

Yeah, you just, if you were just a monster, you wouldn't feel those things, you know, and you feel happy and be happy that you're the monster and you contain it. Yeah unless you can't, you got a punch, jimmy, in the face, it might solve you Some problems. No therapy beating the shit out of each other at a young age and what else wait yeah?

Martin

what are?

Dylan

cigarettes gonna help? No, no, no, okay, no, let's agree on that. But there's, there's a, there's a bunch of things. The problem is, you know, like they frown on experimenting, like you know things that could potentially be bad for you, even though they might be good for you even though what? Even though they might be good for you. Yeah, I mean, just like the Moderna vaccine. I'm just saying I've lost a lot of weight and I'm getting kind of jacked since I've had the vaccine. So I'm right there with you.

Martin

Actually, if I look at my, I lost routine.

Dylan

Yeah, yeah. So I Was gonna jab myself as many times they told me I didn't care. They're like your DNA is gonna change. I'm like Listen, the poison I put my body were way past that.

Martin

But the nurse had. The nurse had to take the needle away from hit me up.

Dylan

Oh, you wanted it. Yeah, I was just like she's, like there's nothing left in there. I want my note card to be. You fall, You're going through customs, you're like stamp it again stamp it again.

Dylan

I the only reason I say that is to me I I went to Mexico last week and I had my passport and I still have my vaccine card in there, because couple years ago I went to Canada and they're still requiring it and I totally had forgotten about it and I pulled it out. I'm just sat there and giggled. It's a note card.

Dylan

Yeah, I V yeah, and it's like my, then the vaccine number, or like the dope, not the dose, the batch number, yeah, and it's like and then the date and then the signature of the farm, is which clearly no one really, really this is this is this is the best we could do bang yeah that's going to get me in the country, and it was actually as real as the vaccine itself. Oh, thank you Sorry. Thank you very much.

Brad

I.

Dylan

Allegedly saltwater.

Martin

Here's a hot takes.

Dylan

What we did in response to that was absolutely correct. We didn't know what was coming. We didn't know what was happening. It was the subsequent effects afterwards where we maybe tried to hold on to some, some items and it was like, oh no, it's still really bad, guys, it's really really bad. You're like well, the hospitals have cleared up a little bit. Maybe we don't need to be super protective.

Martin

Are we talking about?

Dylan

Israel and Gaza. Yeah right now, but hindsight swing we've, hindsight is 20-20, but we disenfranchise ourselves for if something was never happened again. I think? I Think we are really fucked if something very serious comes, because everyone's gonna be like, yeah, you guys really blew this last one out of proportion and fuck you, dude, we're not gonna do it, fuck you again, I'm not gonna do a goddamn thing.

Dylan

Same Harris was talking about that really early on. Like you can't. He was still. I mean, he was very much of the point where it's like I'm playing this overly safe. I'm gonna play this overly safe, I was all. And then he would talk to pathologists who are in a lab setting and they deal with the Deadliest things on earth on a daily basis. That's their job. And so they come on and they start talking about COVID and they're like it's not you know is it harmful?

Dylan

Yes, does it kill some people? Yes, but it's. This is not like a, a game changer. You know, because they're dealing with things, that there's a perfect out. There's a perfect relationship between Contagion or contagiousness, or yes, and death. If it's highly deadie, deadly, it cannot be that contagious because it can't spread that fast because the host die so fast. It can be based on where it's released, at where it's released. But but yes, the the more deadly it is and the faster it is it killing you, the less likely it is to spread.

Martin

But, you're talking about Ebola. I mean, it was like yeah yeah, but what?

Dylan

what he was saying was this. This is actually a an interesting take on how we would respond to. Oh, absolutely, if something that was or so fucked for the that was mid-range where it's, it, doesn't kill you right away, it, maybe it's a one week response.

Dylan

And it has plenty of time to train and he goes this, this is not like it. At what death rate do people Figure out that? Okay, when we have to act like really seriously about this? And then is it, is it too late? So no, yeah, I think probably fucked, and Don't again. The immediate response totally understand, we had no idea it and Spanish flu was the previous one, that's 19. What would you say earlier, 1916, 1918, you know?

Martin

I was like put it in your body. That was the. That was what happens.

Discussion on Lack of COVID Knowledge

Dylan

That was the previous one. So there's no institutional knowledge in terms of maybe a few people live through it but they're not cognizant enough to tell us what it really was like. And also the medical knowledge has changed so much so nobody knew how to deal with it. It's like, okay, we're not sure what's happening, let's do these few things. But then, as we went through it, it was the lack of Propriety To say you know what?

Dylan

maybe we can just start peeling some of these things back, because we seem to be okay right now. It's it's not the best situation, but can I not wash the outside of my groceries when I bring them home?

Martin

I mean Lysol man, lysol stock. The initial understanding of that was correct, but obviously, as we held on for a long time, we learned more about that situation. That was like not even needed what, and I had a thought.

Dylan

I forgot about it. Yeah, that's what I call it. Do you? Hot takes hilarious? Was I a COVID? I can't remember. Did you? When did you get COVID? I never got it. You never got it.

Dylan

Yeah never, I know you know who else never got it? Who finance bro Chris Crone? Oh, because he willed it. Yeah, because he just said I don't have it. You know who else didn't get it? Everybody that never got tested to have it, hmm, didn't get it. That's why I never got it. I don't believe in testing. You know, I don't believe in any of it. I don't believe in math tests. I'm believing pregnancy tests. Yeah, we're so getting kicked off. Buzz bro. I don't believe in. Are we even here right now? Are we just in our own heads? I don't believe in a machine. Mike checks, do we do it?

Martin

Mike check. I don't like any of it.

Dylan

No, no, I like fuck it. We'll do it live. We did do it live. That's what I like. By the way, have you guys ever read lamb the gospel? According to Biff, christ, childhood pal.

Martin

No, it's a really good.

Dylan

It's really good book what? Yeah, no, it's who's Biff. Is he from Back to the Future? No, biff is. Biff is a god. He's an unknown disciple. I mean he's a disciple but he's just like a low-level guy in the gospel. Oh but uh, it's a. It's written by Christopher Moore. It's a satire on Jesus's life. It's and me coming from Catholic school. It's fucking hilarious because he does a fantastic job of like. Yeah, I was. I was all in until you mentioned it was sat fire. I thought this was real thing.

Martin

So okay, I'm not interested anymore.

Dylan

Levi bar Alfeas was Biff, he was one of the disciples According to According to the gospel oh, one of the 12. Yeah, so I'll give you the quick premise who's all 12? I'll give you the premise. Don't ask me. Are we talking?

Martin

about reindeer.

Dylan

We're talking about gospel, no, or disciples reindeer, make up a song for the 12 disciples. No, I can't do it. Okay, so it's fair. Yeah, we're ever gonna get into it, so you guys should do the tune of the Rudolph though. So all I'm gonna say is that Jesus goes looking for the three wise men that came to visit him Under the star Bethlehem that seems like it'd be hard. He was a fucking funny baby it's that would be like me going to search for it when he was a baby.

Dylan

He did it. The whole point of this book, do you not know? No, he was a baby when they visited him. Yeah, it's the whole point. That's why it's difficult. Oh, so the premise of the book is that Jesus goes missing for the first 32 years of his life. From the moment he was born to the first time you really see him in action in the gospel is like Late 20s, early 30s.

Martin

I mean it was a carpenter.

Podcast Email Address Confusion

Dylan

Well, he made shitty furniture, so they put him away. Sorry, brad, this is based on this book. It's based on you. Optics, and now I feel you suck at this really sad. It's just fun to be delayed for you I.

Martin

Don't like those same way yeah.

Dylan

Well, you started this dumb podcast About practice. Speaking of practice, what my email work? Why wouldn't it?

Brad

because I emailed myself today. I didn't get it.

Dylan

Bar check that Bar check everybody's everybody's been writing us and we're not a marketing. D Mark and D Kim are working.

Brad

So I don't know it's not Give.

Dylan

Give him the. Give him the address again. You, what? What's the address? I don't know why. All right, terribly oblivious, yeah, hi, what is it? Oh, you don't know. This is how this show works. We just meaningly no. First I give you correct information and then you tell me not to give out my correct information, and then you give me false information. Oh, it's hello at. Terribly on, oblivious, calm. Okay, give the right password. If it is that, I give everyone your password if it is that, I don't. Yes, I.

Dylan

Do three ABC ABC you're gonna have to check yours what. What am I checking? I don't know, because I didn't go to mine so if you guys want to leave comments on anything? Don't, because we don't fucking see him, so Bye you're still here.

Martin

It's over, go home.

Dylan

Oh.