Terribly Unoblivious

Rocking Nostalgia: Movies, Music, and Tattoos in a Journey of Discovery

• Brad Child & Dylan Steil • Episode 32

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Ever wondered how our favorite music videos and movies from the past still influence us today? Join us as we journey through some iconic pop culture moments, like Yellowcard's unforgettable MTV tribute to "The Breakfast Club" and Charlie Sheen's legendary cameo in "Ferris Bueller's Day Off." We reflect on the emotional power of the Foo Fighters' performance with Taylor Hawkins' son, and even entertain the idea of rocking a "November Rain" inspired wedding dress. Of course, we also couldn't help but feel a bit of concert FOMO over missing Adele in Munich.

Our tales don't stop with music and movies. We share our recent travels, contrasting visits to historic sites and the introspection they inspire, with lighter stories about tattoos and redemption. Discover the significance of places like the Badlands and the Black Hills, and hear about a unique tattoo parlor owned by a former felon now supporting others on their paths to better lives. Amidst these reflections, we sprinkle in some lighthearted banter about movies, celebrity culture, and even the intriguing possibilities of alien existence with special guest Shane Hawkins, who brings his infectious energy and drumming prowess to the episode.

We're also exploring cultural contrasts, like the charmingly slow-paced hospitality found in German beer gardens and how it contrasts with the hustle and bustle of American service. Get a peek into the world of sports fandom, as we reminisce about soccer matches at Soldier Field and marvel at the sheer size of American college stadiums compared to their European counterparts. From extreme cave diving stories to curious political discussions, our conversation meanders through the quirky, the profound, and the just plain fun—proving that sometimes the best journeys are the unexpected ones.

Dylan:

This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast.

Brad:

Yep, I said it before and I'll say it again Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. Don't play the whole thing, claire.

Dylan:

It's a fat girl's nameire. It's a fat girl's name. Oh, thank you. What is this one? You wear tights. This is the breakfast club, oh but this is a video but no yellow card. This is mtv music awards back in movie awards. I think it's it's 15 years ago, so 2009,. They did like a celebration. Oh, the rat pack.

Brad:

Okay, yellow card was big at that time.

Dylan:

Yeah Uh, ocean Avenue yellow card. Yes, there's a place off ocean. Um, so they did. Uh, don't you forget about me as a tribute, and then they played videos of the breakfast club behind them on stage. Yeah, tribute. And then they played videos of the breakfast club behind them on stage. Yeah, and everyone was there but amelio, which takes me back to charlie sheen son. Men at work what charlie sheen's son? Oh what amelio no god brothers.

Dylan:

No, oh yes, but charlie sheen would have been in uh 16 candles, not breakfast club charlie sheen was no, yes, he was, he was remember he was in the police station.

Brad:

No, that's not that wasn't 16 day off god damn it, I don't want to record this podcast anymore because I'd love that movie so much, but that that is. Uh. Yeah, that's funny, we've talked about that before. Like he was, he was so good in that small role that they had, to like, cut pieces out.

Dylan:

Yeah, because it was like why don't you stick people up your ass?

Brad:

people were too invested in his character.

Dylan:

He looks at her and she's. What's her name again? What's Ferris's sister but the Jennifer gray?

Brad:

Yeah, she's a babe.

Dylan:

But then she, she went down the plastic surgery rabbit hole and she good for her. She went too far. It's not bad. She was naturally gorgeous. Seen worse, that's true, there's always worse. That's a cat lady, naturally gorgeous. Seen worse, that's true, there's always worse that's a cat lady.

Brad:

I don't like that argument.

Dylan:

No offense any. I don't like that argument anymore. It's like it always be worse and it's like, yeah, it could always be worse, could always be worse, could always be worse um, but with the mtv thing, I did just see the meme yesterday where it's a.

Brad:

It looks almost like the jetsons background and it's what the world would look like if MTV just kept playing music videos. Yeah exactly, I enjoy that Right. But previous to the record button, dylan was just saying he was going down a little bit of an emotional rabbit hole with music videos before bed the other night.

Dylan:

Couldn't sleep last night I was like there's some good ones. I just watched it. So the what I was telling Brad is the one that gets me, and it's not one that I found last night. It's one I found I don't know a couple months ago, but anytime I'm in that moody emo moody phase of my life that I'm just by myself.

Dylan:

I'm just gonna watch music videos. Uh, it's not necessarily a music video, it's live, but it's when, um, the foo fighters did their first concert after shane. Oh yeah, uh, uh, hawkins dies and his son's his son comes up and plays the drums for, uh, my hero, yeah, I was it's. It's so powerful because they get just bawling.

Dylan:

But grohl is, you can tell like it's. It is amazing the fact that girl can keep it together as well as he can for that concert. Because he's talking. You can tell he's talking with emotion but he's he's not like breaking down and he's like we had to get the little guy out here and you know it's only, it's only fair that he was here and he's like this guy hits the drums harder than anyone and Holy shit, this kid just bashes like he is. He just absolutely tries to destroy that drum set but it plays so well and in tune and it's emotional.

Brad:

You're just like wow, that's a I mean, that's a great song to play too.

Dylan:

I'm sitting in my dad's seat right now and I'm paying tribute to him.

Brad:

Yeah, my hero, I mean anyway. Yeah, imagine having a son that liked you that much.

Dylan:

I was thinking about that Actually. I'm like what?

Brad:

would I like.

Dylan:

What's my tribute to my dad? Like I don't know, I'm just making my kids feel like they're no purpose in life. Would my sons just be like I, I'm not I'm not playing the drums I stuck my in the dry.

Brad:

I don't want to stick my balls in your drum set.

Dylan:

I know you touch my drum set so we're four minutes into a four and a half 444 minutes into a podcast.

Brad:

Anyways, mine was, mine was November, rain, november rain, yes, guns and roses music video, the extended version. Yeah, and I always dreamed of my bride walking down the aisle in that white miniskirt dress.

Dylan:

Not white snakeskin, no, ohkin no, oh, okay, no, that's what Axel was wearing.

Brad:

He could have been, could have been. White snakeskin jumpsuit yes that sounds on par yeah, but it didn't happen. I don't remember. I don't remember what the dress was like.

Dylan:

I don't know when.

Brad:

I got married.

Dylan:

I watch a lot of Adele.

Brad:

I wasn't wearing one.

Dylan:

I'm actually kind of upset. I saw Taylor Swift in Munich and then Adele did a 10. She's doing a 10-part concert series in Munich. Oh, Started two nights ago.

Brad:

Too bad for you.

Dylan:

I missed it. No, it was last Friday, so it was longer.

Brad:

That leads into what I want to talk about today, though. What do you want to talk about? We both have been on vacation.

Dylan:

We tried to do a vacation episode? How long ago. And it never happened. No, you just never published it. Do we have unpublished episodes? Oh yeah, Okay.

Brad:

We have unpublished episodes. Oh yeah, we got a bunch. Sorry, guys, I know you're not getting enough content from us, but we have unpublished episodes. Yeah, one person. No, we did one and it was good and you didn't publish it, so we're going to do it again.

Dylan:

Well, it wasn't really finished we kind of talked about your shit but I had been on a lot of vacations and we never got to all my stuff.

Brad:

It's like a Little League baseball game.

Dylan:

It's not real.

Brad:

It doesn't count for anything, just fucking do it. It's true, all right. So, vacay, where were you at brad? What happened? What did you learn? Yeah, that's we. We went to very different places, right, um, I went to a place where people were massacred and you went to a place where people did the massacring In history Not like recent history, kind of recent, it's not that long ago, it's not that long ago.

Dylan:

Whenever you read about history and the atrocities in history, you're like well, it was a while ago, we didn't know any better.

Brad:

That was my grandpa. That was my grandpa's time. It didn't know any better. Like this one was my grandpa, this one was my grandpa's, like yesterday.

Dylan:

And it's not. It doesn't seem any better.

Brad:

No, I can't remember who talks about that, but when you start talking generally generationally, like that was two, it was two generations ago, not that far no.

Dylan:

Yeah, no, I mean, we had a Pope, we had a Pope that was part of that. Hey he, he resigned. What he's pope? And what do they call that pope emirates? What?

Brad:

are you saying? What are you saying?

Dylan:

we're trying to get it benedict was part of hitler youth. Everyone knows this. Oh, was he? Yeah, but he was rat. What was his?

Brad:

He wasn't rat singing Whenever you say Benedict, I think Arnold or a sandwich Pope Benedict.

Dylan:

No.

Brad:

Eggs Benedict. Is Pope Benedict still alive, by the way? I don't know. I'll go Okay.

Dylan:

I'll go.

Brad:

I'll go. I'll go. He'll keep calling See there you go first builder's day. Thank you, here we go so we took our first trip to south dakota. So we did not leave the states, because I can't leave the states, because that breaks the rule I have of traveling outside the united states. Sounds terrible. Other than ireland, which we established it was rat zinger jesus out of the states okay so never been, drove through, never stopped anywhere, never saw anything.

Brad:

We're seeing and started looking it up. Turns out, yeah, fair amount of shit to do out there in one particular area. More or less Funny enough, that area was heavily populated by the Lakota people and then subsequently kicked out because they don't get to have cool shit. Um, no, pottery, not no. I mean like this is really beautiful land. How about you don't get this anymore and we'll just give you this desert? We've talked about this before, do you like that?

Dylan:

Who was our national parks guy?

Brad:

Teddy Roosevelt.

Dylan:

Hmm, who was the other one? John Muir. There you go. Yeah, that's simple, like creme de mure. No, okay, where's my creme fraiche? We're creme de mure in the liquor cabinet okay, it's good, I believe you, okay. So we went out there, did uh, the badlands which were you, on an episode of Suns of Anarchy.

Brad:

No, we did see some motorcycles.

Dylan:

Okay, I could see how it would be cool. Well, sturgis is going on right now. Yeah, yeah, I know that because, Gas Monkey. Rich Rollins has got Gas Monkey Sturgis going. Oh, does he? I don't know why I did that accent.

Brad:

I apologize to anyone I know that because the guy that did my tattoo is at Sturgis right now because he's probably making a fuckload of money. So cool.

Dylan:

Does he look like the guy that would just like take all the money in and spend it right away? Or is he a saver?

Brad:

So interesting story about my last two tattoos, not the tattoos themselves but the parlors. Okay, the one in Colorado last year was allegoric art and that was kind of interesting because that was a little throwback to Plato. I like to make connections that don't mean anything, coincidences, if you will fate or fate serendipity, yes okay, shannon's favorite movie, serendipity john cusack.

Dylan:

She hates that movie. Who's the female in it? My?

Brad:

girlfriend. What's uh, kate beckinsale?

Dylan:

is it yeah?

Brad:

it's got to be so. That was the colorado last year. This year did some browsing because I was kind of hankering for another tattoo and this one was uh, convicted designs is kate beckinsale, wow why is's so much hotter?

Dylan:

What's the vampire like in a movie Leather?

Brad:

Because it's leather, or is it leather? What do you call that? Underworld Vinyl?

Dylan:

Underworld was great.

Brad:

Is she wearing vinyl? She was in Van Helsing too, I forgot about that.

Dylan:

She had a vampire motif going on for a while.

Brad:

It's fine, I'm here for it. I'd stab her with a wood stake. I see what you did there but I'm not going to two on the nose.

Dylan:

No, it's good. Okay, that's good, it's really good. All right, I just can't. I can't compliment you, so I can't. That's fine with a wooden, uh got that for my yep.

Brad:

I'm gonna put that in my back pocket. So convicted designs was his uh shop. He's got a couple of them actually. Is he convicted of anything? Yeah, he was a felon.

Dylan:

Oh good um and is he like jelly roll, like big meth guy, and then just?

Brad:

now he's talking about not doing meth. Yes, basically that's awesome. Yeah are him and jelly roll fans friends jelly roll is actually performing a sturgis, so possibly how do you know this much about sturgis?

Dylan:

because billboards, that makes sense, yeah okay, yeah, he got me there, um, and they say so, he, he was a big work anymore a big advocate of change.

Brad:

So he does like discounts to um felons that can prove like rehabilitation, yes, like post work. So the system works. I don't know that that's through the system. I believe that's probably after they get out, would be my guess, through grit and tenacity.

Brad:

So that was and I was like, okay, yeah, like that, like the work like the, the idea of change, and so walk into a shop in rapid city which was not the closest one to where we were staying. Actually, he's his really big one was two minutes away from where we were staying, instead of driving for an hour okay but the rapid city one was, uh, I believe, his first shop, smaller shop.

Brad:

You walk in there and then across the whole uh length of the shop it says be the change you seek in the world, which was one of my other tattoos, uh theme motifs. I was like what the fuck is going on here. Serendipity, you know, I got to go back to that store and buy the left glove.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

Or the right glove, whatever Center glove. Isn't that how they met in that movie?

Dylan:

It was a pair of. It was a pair of gloves, right, a pair of gloves. Yeah, it was the only size Shannon will know. And then John was like, no, you take him. And then she was like, no, you take him. And then they went out to coffee.

Brad:

Okay, and then they never talked again.

Dylan:

Well, no, he wanted to.

Brad:

No, she wrote it down in a book.

Dylan:

But we're both with other people, we can't. So she wrote her information on the book and then they did the elevator thing I remember that which was pick a floor, and he picked the right floor.

Brad:

But then a kid got in and just fucking oh, I know way too much about this movie. That's fine, I like it. So there's a little bit about that. But so we went to the badlands. Okay, motif baggins, uh, badlands, pretty badass it's. It's another planet, feels like another planet.

Dylan:

Um, it's very surreal speaking, Speaking of other planets. The Boeing astronauts are still stuck up in space.

Brad:

Eh, I mean, eh, what Boeing astronauts.

Dylan:

So Boeing is trying to compete with SpaceX.

Brad:

SpaceX.

Dylan:

Okay, and they're like we have a reusable capsule, like it's unfair if we don't get a chance in space. And then the two astronauts they sent up are still at the space station and are possibly going to be there till 2025. Now they were supposed to be there for like a two-week mission. That's your dream, right? Oh, my god, I the if, if the boeing ceo, I would be on the comms. I'd be like you better keep me up here, because when I get back down there, I will kill you. It's that I will find you and I will kill you as the, the shane gillis, uh, skit.

Brad:

When he's on the, he's on the airplane and it's getting ready to go down, yeah, and he's like uh. He's like yeah, is this, is this thompson's ford? He's like, hey, you, you fuck my car up. I'm coming down there to fuck you up right now. He's like you better get ready, bitch. And this lady's like what?

Dylan:

are you doing?

Brad:

he's like we're gonna die this guy needs to know I'm coming for him. It's never gonna happen, but it's exactly it I know I haven't heard of that. What do?

Dylan:

you mean you have it's been all over I don't read the news and boeing knew they had leaky seals or some bullshit before it got sent up. It it's always the seals, it's like seven, 37. I mean, like the doors bust off. All this there's been some bad leadership of Boeing, I feel like.

Brad:

So they made it to the space station and now they're stuck.

Dylan:

Yeah, Because of the they can't return the, the craft on the way there was throwing air warnings out the ass Like gonna die, gonna basically all the you know like the oh what nasa says.

Brad:

Boeing starliner astronauts may fly home on spacex in 2025 they're definitely flying home on spacex.

Dylan:

That's good. That's bad marketing. So the only reason like and this is what I've been thinking about I'm get it. This is a very delicate thing. Everyone's like just send a spaceship up to rescue them. There's a lot of things that go into it, but there is some politics and you probably could just send a spaceship up there to get them, but Boeing's up there going no, we're not going to do that because it's going to look really bad for us. So give us a little bit of time. We're going to fix our seals, yeah, and if they die, they'll forget about it. Stakeholders will forget about it in two years and we'll still have stock, is this?

Brad:

if they sent a spaceship, like if NASA just sent a spaceship. Most expensive recovery in history or no?

Dylan:

I think the Concordia is going to go down as the most expensive recovery and that's more of a salvage. That's the Italian Remember the Italian um uh cruise ship that the captain abandoned, shipped and he got. He got prosecuted for abandoning ship because it's maritime law. You don't as captain, you're not allowed to, and people died.

Brad:

I think that's going down as like 800 billion.

Dylan:

Wow, that might be a ridiculous Cool.

Brad:

So thanks for throwing off that Cordia salvage. So I was in South Dakota. Is this why the last vacation one didn't air? I don't know. Cause you just fucking don't stay on topic.

Dylan:

I have. Add man, it's not cool.

Brad:

Not my problem. You're absolutely right.

Dylan:

It was $612 million to build in 2004. What do you think that salvage is going to cost?

Brad:

How much do I hate when you say numbers.

Dylan:

Well, you don't understand finance, so probably a lot yeah it's a lot, okay.

Brad:

Anyway, we're moving on Badlands. I did a little solo track. I abandoned family. Okay, I pulled a captain and abandoned ship. We were doing a hike and everyone was like this fucking sucks. I was like, yeah, I'll do it by myself. You just pull the ripcord and just say peace bitch. I was like, yeah, I'll do it by myself. You just pull the ripcord and just say peace bitches. Yeah, I was like go back. That's awesome. The show must go on. How was it? It ended up being pretty cool, yeah.

Dylan:

Let me guess you found one of those really flat big rocks and then you got naked and you turned your asshole up to the sun and you're like oh, i's a second time for everything.

Brad:

What is that? Hey, I have coordinates, just do not Google.

Dylan:

Earth.

Brad:

it okay, Suntanning butthole I can't believe I'm Googling this right now. That's not good.

Dylan:

Perennium sunning.

Brad:

Great, thank you.

Dylan:

It's a real thing.

Brad:

Everything is a real thing. Everything is a real thing, everything is a real thing. I don't like that. That didn't happen. I'm going to make you get rid of your laptop. I'm going to make you turn it off. You stop it. No, we're not. We're talking about buttholes.

Dylan:

I am really sad, right now. You're just so nihilistic and anxious, so yeah, What'd you do?

Brad:

Because you know, fuck my vacation.

Dylan:

You went to Germany.

Brad:

Saw Taylor Swift Sounds fun. It was okay. It was okay, it's good you saw her there, because you could have been part of a terrorist plot.

Dylan:

Yeah, I'm glad I'm not on an FBI watch list. She got shut down.

Brad:

I know when was that Vienna Vienna? Where's Vienna? Austria?

Dylan:

oh, sausage no yeah, there's some there okay, but you were in austria I was in austria.

Brad:

Okay, now I'm on the dots are connecting.

Dylan:

I'm on the fbi watch list, thank you see what's happening here. Well, was it amazing yeah, it was pretty cool it was pretty cool.

Brad:

I saw two pictures, uh, concert related, mine or somebody else's, I yours, I think I probably plagiarized it. Okay, uh, it made me very uncomfortable. Which one? Uh, both of them, because of how many people? Yeah, yeah, that's a lot of people, yeah so what is funny about germany?

Dylan:

still a lot of people a lot of people, yeah, but we think they're very, we're like what's the american joke? But like, oh, very stoic, very engineering, you know, like just you know yeah, methodical turns out, they're a bunch of hash heads dude.

Dylan:

It took us fucking 40 minutes being third person in line to get a cocktail from their bar in the stadium, like it was the most haphazard service ever. I'm like this this is german engineering at its finest. Like I thought you guys would have machines and everything doing all this shit for you well, they do?

Dylan:

they do like they're hot, so is their hospitality slower. So their hospitality is very much european, which surprised me. It shouldn't spray and that sounds terrible, but their hospitality falls a lot in line of spain, france, um, where the server or the waiter whatever you want to, whatever term you want to use is there, working a room, but it is very relaxed, like it is not like you're back and call whatever and you, just you, raise your hand when you need something. Okay, um, spain, the whole thing is they do like their whole culture is based on we don't want to bother you while you're at a table. If you need something, raise your hand, grab us, get our attention. And it's not rude to be like barking at someone in spain, like when you're like hey, like that's not rude, that's just like, oh, they want my attention. I didn't want to bother them because that's your table, is your personal space.

Brad:

Yeah, so if you have a drinking problem, your hands just like always up.

Dylan:

Let's just say that I have a shoulder sling on. I have a shoulder sling on right now, nice, but Germany was very much along the same lines of just we'll get to you when we get to you, but their beer gardens. They have a culture of beer gardens, which are a couple rules. When it comes to their traditional beer gardens, one has to be pea gravel two, no, but chestnut trees oh three.

Dylan:

Um, it can be. Bring your own food. There's, it goes back to the day, it's a whole thing. Okay, and uh, for self-serve beer, okay, not like in the tree, you have to. You can self-serve and go grab as much as you want, like you don't need somebody that come around to you. You can go, like, grab beers as you want. So there's a, there's rules like that. But, um, yeah, it was interesting the fact that it was way more laid back, which doesn't bother me because it's it's fun.

Dylan:

It's nice to be able to sit down and actually like take in the environment around you, versus like I'm just just getting here for a quick beer. And it does change your perspective on things because I've done that here. We're like, well, we got 15 minutes, let's have a quick beer, but you're so entrenched in the moment of trying to get a quick beer and all the process that goes along with it. Are you actually enjoying that 15 minutes where it's like you're over in, you're over, I'm over here and I'm sitting at a beer garden and there's all this fun shit going on around me. It forces you to ground yourself and be like what's going on around me right now, because I'm not no rush. There's no rush. You're in the moment, even though you have a rush, which is something that I've learned is it takes time to check out. When I go to Europe, I'm in a rush, and then, by the time I'm leaving Europe, I'm like I'm not in a rush, I don't really want to go anywhere.

Brad:

There's definitely parts of the United States that are like that too.

Dylan:

The South has a little bit of that.

Brad:

Everything's a little bit different pace yeah.

Dylan:

The Midwest is just too efficient sometimes and too hospitable. We've got a lot of shit to do, yeah, but what though?

Brad:

We got corn to pick.

Dylan:

That's true.

Brad:

Corn to plant corn to pick corn to eat. It is sweet corn season? Yeah, it is, I just heads on.

Dylan:

I was just informed by Brittany that we have sweet corn.

Brad:

I don't know why I'm not eating it right now. That would make for some great audio, yeah brad and dylan braces and ate sweet corn so how many people? How many people were in, like the stadium that she played 5 000 and that is what's that like a, a big European football stadium.

Dylan:

It's three and a half times the mark.

Brad:

Three and a half times, that's pretty big. Yeah, what is it?

Dylan:

It's a little bit smaller than Kinnick Stadium.

Brad:

What about Soldier Field?

Dylan:

See, the thing is actually in the United States which actually kind of wakes people out is that college stadiums are actually bigger than professional stadiums. Um, soldier field all the time capacity not all the time, but um, for the most part okay, like the biggest stadiums united states are, I want to say michigan, ohio and alabama. Soldier field is 62,500, so 10,000 more people, what? No, the mark's only 50, 10 or 15,000 let's go with 15.

Brad:

So, hey, we're going back to soldier field. Which game to see? Not messy play again yeah, again miami.

Dylan:

And whom, chicago?

Brad:

oh what that's disappointing that's older field, who else?

Dylan:

is playing there. I mean, I saw manchester united and chelsea there when lampard oh, actually wasn't that. No, it was terry, it was rooney, it was oh, what were you two? Who was the Portuguese defender for her nobody cares about me, just reunited okay, where's my friend at?

Brad:

he's gone he's gone, we're talking about Martin I asked him what do you say? Fuck you guys.

Dylan:

I hate them. Officially, it's fine Okay.

Brad:

We also went to Black Hills Explain the Black. Hills, the Black Hills are like hills, but instead of green they're black. I don't understand it actually comes from the rock, I guess that's. So they're granite hills Surrounding them, so the native people called them Black Hills. I don't understand.

Dylan:

It's very Western South Dakota, northern Wyoming, are primarily composed of ancient granite and metamorphic rocks. The core of the Black Hills consists of pre Cambrian granite and schist, which are some of the oldest rocks in North America, dating back to 1.8 billion years. These ancient rocks from the central peaks of the region I almost fell on my sword right there which one?

Brad:

Just so you'd stop reading. Oh, Dislike.

Brad:

They have a core of sedimentary limestone sandstone shale and they're deposited during the Paleozoic and mesozoic eras so the other week I sent you a thing that I'm gonna start booing when I don't like conversations that are happening. Be curious, not judgmental. I'm gonna be judgmental. Okay, I'm just gonna start booing. Okay, when you start reading, I'm gonna start booing. Other. People may find it fascinating probably not, I don't. I'm just going to start booing. Okay, when you start reading, I'm going to start booing. Other people may find it fascinating Probably not, I don't. I know I don't like it. We saw a lot of Buffalo.

Dylan:

They're tasty, they're so good. Buffalo are so tasty, extremely lean too.

Brad:

Yes, I'm going to also very tender and delicious, amazing flavor. I know the meatloaf.

Dylan:

I don't know how to describe it. The meat almost has a sweetness to it.

Brad:

It's the best beef you've ever had, but it's not beef. I know that's what it's like, but what is so like birds or poultry? Yes?

Dylan:

Beef is cattle. Yes, what is buffalo? Bison, bison, thank you. Yeah, that's it, but that's just we call them red meat.

Brad:

Yeah, it's just red red meat poultry red meat okay, one thing I found interesting was we we did end up going to the crazy horse uh memorial, which is the giant memorial that they're in process of carving for. The last Is that where Geronimo was 80 years.

Dylan:

No, Crazy Horse was the chief of the what tribe.

Brad:

I believe he was part of the Lakota tribe. Okay, he was a why I mean he was, he was, he was a wily one, yeah, but he was an app.

Dylan:

I mean he was a savage and and and like. I mean that in a positive way like the guy, the guy who didn't. The guy has. I don't mean it. No, you didn't. Yes, I definitely using it in the pocahontas way. Thank, you. Disney. Good job. She didn't end up with John, by the way. Everyone Spoiler alert. No, he was very, he was very like.

Brad:

I mean modern day. Like you could describe him as a big gangster. He was a crafty motherfucker, I mean. Anyways, at the memorial Stay on topic, Brad. Yeah, so very fascinating, highly recommend it. Shannon wanted to go.

Brad:

I was kind of like eh it's another big rock that's being carved, uh, but there's a ton of history and, um, all sorts of Indian artifacts and art uh, both from the past and the present. There is now a uh education center there. I think it's a college, uh, they have started. That's another like big piece of this. Okay, and so you go in and you get a little 15 minute video about the sculptor and the process of why it is what it is and where, why it's where it is and all these different things. And then you come out and you can see all these different art pieces and artifacts and things like that. One of them was, uh I think it was a kid at the time, it was like 14 that went in and painted every single survivor of uh, like the custer's last stand oh so all of the indians that were survivors of that I thought they won the battle they did okay yeah, I mean, a bunch of them still died, but they did win that.

Brad:

I thought Custer went off a cliff. No, it was a hill, don't fuck with me. So when he was painting them, most of them were.

Dylan:

Was Daniel Day-Lewis there?

Brad:

No, okay Before his time Different documentary yes, yeah, that was in the East Coast, I believe. Yeah, that was in the East Coast, I believe, yeah.

Dylan:

I will find you.

Brad:

Yeah, he did, he found her. They were most of them in their 90s, most of these survivors, by the time this person was painting them and I thought how like how many people now live to their 90s In such a small like. If you took uh friar talk, if you took that small of a group, say like the smallest group, like a small platoon that was uh in normandy on d-day, okay right, and then come back when they're all 90 yeah, how many of them are left?

Brad:

a few, I don't know, I don't know, yeah, a few couple. There seem to be a lot of these motherfuckers left, like many of them are left a few, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, a few couple. There seemed to be a lot of these motherfuckers left, like none of them died. It's not an easy life, and so my thought was they eat a lot of buffalo, so I might start eating a lot of buffalo. Low trans fat I like it yeah yeah, so well, there's gotta be something. What was the?

Dylan:

raccoon's name in uh pocahontas miku, maybe it was.

Brad:

It was miku, I'm gonna fucking jump off custer's cliff better you than him killing me smalls sandlot. Great movie, thank you, but yeah, I mean, I had it a couple times. Let me buffalo meatloaf.

Dylan:

You just can't go wrong I don't think I've ever had buffalo meatloaf. Where are you getting your buffalo at, uh?

Brad:

fresh local there. Yeah, here there. Okay, so it's a big product up there oh yeah, okay, uh, we have a buffalo farm here though which one um what's out off 61 we're talking about coconut? What goes to Muscatine 61, that's south.

Dylan:

Yeah, 61 south. There's one out there.

Brad:

I think you can house your bison there, hey. Fred, I got a nice little sanctuary for you until I'm ready to kill you. You just got to shelter them there for, like, you're going on vacation, and you got to put your bison somewhere, you know, yeah, and then I think they tag them so they don't accidentally slaughter them, probably. Yeah, this is all hearsay.

Dylan:

Nobody really knows. You want to hear a funny story? Yes, okay, please, I've actually. I farm buffalo.

Brad:

Oh.

Dylan:

What yeah Been part of a couple roundups.

Brad:

Have you, yeah, really In those glasses 250 of them.

Dylan:

Just bring them on in City slicker styles and actually one died because when you take them from the open into the pen and they start to filter in. One got um into the pen and they they start to um filter in uh.

Dylan:

One got pinned up against the wall and they're 1,450 pounds and um one got stabbed to death cause it kind of got pinned up against them Like they all have horns and they didn't mean to do it, they just were all kind of like roaming by, and one just got gouged to death in the middle of the pen. So then we had like stopped the traffic and then we had to uh go in with a forklift and uh pick it up and bring it out, um, and then the rest of them got their vaccines.

Brad:

It was great, though they're all yeah, no brucellosis, no people, just walk up to them in the wild. That's a bad idea and I don't fucking murder you. I don't understand yeah, I don't understand people's complete lack of sense for things that will easily kill them.

Dylan:

But they look cute, brad, and it's going to be a great Instagram photo.

Brad:

Disagree.

Dylan:

Okay, I've got a prime example. Where's the cat? Is the cat around here right now? I don't know that cat. She can't kill you Wherever she is. No, no, no, no. This is why humans do this shit. That cat Loud banging noises in this house, whether it's nail guns going outside, it's lightning, it could be me throwing a box down the steps that cat doesn't move. She's completely okay with whatever danger is going around her, because nothing's bad happened to her in her entire life.

Brad:

True, she's been domesticated.

Dylan:

Yes, Same with humans. Oh, nothing terrible could happen to me. They lose their fight or flight system, yeah, and then all of a sudden, when that fight or flight system kicks in, it's a very scary place for someone to be. That's never actually been there before, ooh, because then you're like you're flooded. Your body is your body's never. It's unfamiliar.

Brad:

I don't think these people have that.

Dylan:

Oh, they do right before they die. Eh, it's, it's unfamiliar. I don't think these people have that.

Brad:

Oh they do be right before they die. And it's not enough. It's not enough, it's not enough too domesticated. It's too late. Yeah, this is everyone.

Dylan:

Everyone has been. So this is my issue. People conflateges with rights.

Dylan:

Yes, you have certain rights you don't have, and safety is some of it. But you don't have a right to inherent safety, no matter where you are at any given moment in your life. It's not an inherent right. It's a privilege to be in an area that allows you to have that safety. It is not a right. And people are like well they, they think of black and white terms. Well, I should be safe no matter what. This is ridiculous. You're like that's not how this world works. Should, isn't an actual variable? That's not really how safety works either, exactly and but people do that like they're like well, I, I should be, so I? Why? Why can't I walk down this alley in this really sketchy place the middle of the night and not be safe? Because that's not how it works?

Brad:

Think of safety as a bulletproof vest. Right, like things that are put into place to make you safe. That's your vest, right, but they can still shoot you in the fucking head. Yeah, what if he would have shot you in the head?

Dylan:

Yeah, exactly.

Brad:

Yeah, yeah. What if he would have shot me in the fucking head? Yeah, what if he would have shot you in the head? Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. What if he would have shot me in the head?

Dylan:

it's a risk we were willing to take but yeah, we we did drive by.

Brad:

Uh, one of these things it was right on, it was a lone one. Didn't think we were gonna see any that day. Just, I mean, it's a small house, is what it feels like, just walking and doesn't care about you, doesn't care about your car, nothing, just meandering through, just it's yeah. And then, and then you think like, hey, there's 100 out there, let's go walk in the middle of them. No, no, what are you doing? Have you ever been hit by a 250 pound man? Multiply that it's not going to be good. I don't, I don't like it. Yeah well, and I don't really understand the difference between how people like if you ask that same person like, hey, would you go ride a bull? They'd be like mm-mm. No way not doing that Like, but you will stand next to this thing. Different, yeah, yeah, not really.

Dylan:

I get really, really angry at the world a lot because I'm like why do I have to answer so many questions? Why do I have to help people figure shit out so all the time? And it's easier to just remind yourself sometimes that your job is just to answer questions and help other people get to where they need to go. No, I mean and you just have to understand that, not everyone, not everyone knows where they're going.

Brad:

I mean, sometimes you just have to hit the record button and watch that person get flown by a buffalo.

Dylan:

Yeah.

Brad:

That's all.

Dylan:

Speaking of the record button, did you see the crossfitter that died today? I did see that happen and that a person jumped in to save them and they apprehended that person before they could get to that person.

Brad:

No, yeah, I did not see that part. That's unfortunate.

Dylan:

And the lifeguard that was on the paddleboard was not doing their job apparently.

Brad:

How many people are in the water at the time.

Dylan:

I think they do all women and males at the same time. So whatever the individuals 40, 50, I don't know what the individuals are anymore.

Brad:

The CrossFit games are kind of annoying. Was it an open water swim, just a short swim or longer? I have no idea. Yeah, I'm not a good swimmer. It was bound to happen at some point, though I can swim. But the thought of the beginning of triathlons and things when everybody just goes all at once, no thanks, that's terrifying to me. Getting kicked head, just. I mean, even with safety precautions, you put that many people in the water like you're watching everybody you can't it's physical imposs.

Brad:

that's not. I don't like it, but yeah, that's sad. It's not us, though. It could always be worse. It could be worse. So we got back from vacation and we wanted a little bit more adventure. What did you guys do? We watched that 13 Lives the Thai soccer kids.

Dylan:

Have you seen it? You watched?

Brad:

it. Are you fucking? You watched the whole thing, yes, oh, have you never seen it before?

Dylan:

no I hadn't.

Brad:

I didn't even know the story. So I mean I knew, I knew they got stuck and I knew they came out well, elon musk was even like we're building submarine.

Dylan:

We're building self-driving submarines that we're gonna send over to help rescue, like that. Don't you remember that elon was tweeting shit like we're developing drone submarines, basically shocking.

Brad:

I know my and it wouldn't have worked.

Dylan:

So, um, one of the guys I work with is a uh, scuba. He's a steve. He's a scuba steve. Is he a dive master? He's more than a dive. I'm gonna do a discredit now, but he has all the certs and he's actually on the local rescue team, okay, and um, he goes in the mississippi the rock river and you know, like hey car in the river, he does all that and he's like hardcore, like nah dog would never do that.

Dylan:

But he said when he watches that it is the most because he's used to like two inch of visibility like literally going down into the mississippi, not being able to see your hands when you hold them out in front of you until you bring them right in front of your goggles right and like in, they have this. All they have. Part of becoming a safety diver and a rescue diver is they know where all their tools on their body are. And they have to do like all these kind of like crazy, like grab your tool in this moment, kind of um training scenarios and an observer has to like certify you, okay, so like. You basically have to be like a really good feeler and he's just like.

Dylan:

Those guys had to take their tanks off their bodies and I've, and I've had to take my tanks off and other things through my own personal scuba diving in very clear water. It is not fun to take your tank off your back, yeah, and try to get it back on your body and be like, oh, am I good? Can I still have my breathing apparatus? They would take their tanks off, yeah, and they would slide them through holes for a mile where their tank was in front of them and they would just be like well, I hope nothing gets pulled away from my body right now, because if it does, I'm dead. And they had to stage tanks over weeks because it was such a long dive in they would have to trade tanks off as they went. Because it was such a long dive in, they would have to trade tanks off as they went. So not only are you scuba diving, you're climbing through a PVC pipe that's five inches wide. I mean, it was so dumb.

Brad:

It was scary as shit. The movie itself is scary as shit, and you know, because it's a movie, so the scenes that they're shooting have to be visible, right? Otherwise what's the fucking point? You know it's a movie, so that they, the scenes that they're shooting, have to be visible, right? Otherwise what's the fucking point? You know it's not that visible it's not that light in there well, not even. I mean they have lights on.

Brad:

Yeah but the water is just going to be murky yeah, and so at best it's probably like that because it's constant running water. That was part of. The whole issue was that all this water running in from the cave is creating all these currents. We have currents. You have dirty rock everywhere. If you've been inside caves. It's just what's it covered in? It's just muck like mud. So I think of the mindset of being underwater in the dark, not knowing where you're at, and then just do that for six hours straight sounds cool oh, and here, here's some ketamine yeah, give me that if.

Brad:

If I had to choose between being the kids on ketamine or the divers, give me the ketamine. Yeah, yeah, I'm out, I'm good. Hey, I go back to surgery. Right, like lights out bitches, here we go, and if I'm going to die I'm never going to know. Hopefully You're never going to wake up, hopefully. But yeah, that was wild and I did not know that part.

Dylan:

I didn't sleep that night, Like we made the mistake of, like it was like 10 o'clock at night.

Brad:

We're like we're not ready for bed yet. You watch that movie.

Dylan:

Yeah, it was like five o'clock in the morning and I was like, okay, I'm finally dozing off now.

Brad:

Like it ended at 1230.

Brad:

You just wake up upside down, stuck between your nightstand no, pretty much Nice. So, hey, martin, not going to Thailand? No, thanks, I don't like what you have to offer. Okay, keep it. Keep that shit for yourself. It's wild. So that was it. That was, yeah, I got more stuff, but talk about it? No, I don't want to do it right now. Why not? Because I'm going to incorporate it into something else. Okay, so I feel like all we did is talk about your trip. No, you don't eat, that's you don't like talking.

Dylan:

So that's true.

Brad:

Yeah, germany's still there, taylor Swift's still good.

Dylan:

So Munich's completely flat city, get this right Totally flat, like, totally, like it is as flat as flat gets. But then there's a big ass hill right in the middle of it. That's Olympic, that's Olympic village and there's a big ass hill right in the middle of it.

Brad:

That's olympic, that's olympic village. Little dog, where'd that hill come from? Oh, can I take guesses? Yep, do you know the answer? Yeah okay, ready, all right, munich, germany. Uh, is it really old? Is the hill really old? No, it's not old like 100 years. Yeah, oh, it's not bodies, right, it's not bodies right, it's not bodies. There might be some bodies in it, unexploded ordinance. You're on the right track.

Dylan:

Okay, we literally bombed the shit out of that town and rubbled it. They took all the rubble over there and they mounded it and they just built a big dump site for all the rubble Wow, and they just filled it in with dirt. And they just built a big dump site for all the rubble, wow, and then they just filled it in with dirt. And then all of a sudden they're like oh, we got a hill. And then part of like going back to sports.

Brad:

My grandpa might have done that.

Dylan:

So sports washing, we talk about sports washing. We've talked. When were we Sports washing? Sports washing, which is what Cutter was trying to do during the world cup, which is pouring billions of dollars into fifa and being like look at us, we're a great country.

Brad:

Oh yeah, we're not doing all these heinous things. The women and gay rights and you know it's sports washing it's and the actual workers making the stadiums exactly yeah so sports washing.

Dylan:

That part of that was oh, we have this big hill over here, we'll put the olympic village over here. It's the renaissance and the resurgence of germany, 50 years actually. It's in the 70s or the 80s, don't know. When was the munich olympics?

Brad:

I'm not. Oh, that was that long that was.

Dylan:

Munich was like 80s right late 70s yeah, so like 40 years, after all that shit, they allowed them to have the olympics that doesn't seem.

Brad:

What do you mean? Allowed them? It's not the same people. It wasn't, are you sure? Yeah, didn't they all go to?

Dylan:

they went to, I'm sure all of them went and I'm sure, not every the entire country. I thought they went to south america do you think this is how we're going to talk good ones? This is how we're going to talk about fanatical trump people? In like 40 years we're like, why don't we let them do this again? Like well, no, they lost their rights.

Brad:

Uh, the other thing I saw in South Dakota Trump signs so much merch talking about merch.

Dylan:

Okay, so I'm agnostic, but this is fucking horrendous. Just no, this is. This is kamala she oh, where'd this go? Where'd this go? She her instagram as of yesterday she posted her, her and waltz between the olympics and this usa is so back. For the first time in a long time, I feel some hope for the leadership in this country. That's kamala's. That's kamala's post. Okay.

Dylan:

And then the next one is they released a camo with hunter safety, orange threaded harris waltz hat okay, saw that okay, okay, also so stoked to reclaim camo and the flag in a patriotic sort of way, not a potentially racist and homophobic sort of way. Wait what that was the post.

Brad:

Reclaim camo from who I don't know.

Dylan:

Hunters. It just says reclaim camo and the flag in a patriotic sort of way and not potentially racist and homophobic sort of way. Okay, well, there's some blanket statements being made.

Brad:

There are because of the hat. It's real tree camo, right, yeah, uh. But now just hearing you verbally say that without seeing it, uh, I'm thinking. Well, who wears camo?

Dylan:

oh, the military wears camo don't ask, don't tell baby, that's uh okay, yeah, I mean covering a lot of ground there.

Brad:

You should have saved that for the next episode. We are so fucked. Hot takes.

Dylan:

We are so fucked. I look at both sides and I'm like, ah, it's going to be fine. We are so oh, my God. Trump almost got assassinated. In the time that we haven't talked.

Brad:

Did he, though? Did they find out if a bullet really hit him? It did? Positive Mm-hmm, not shrapnel. Confirmed, confirmed, ooh.

Dylan:

Yeah. Do you know what my favorite thing is, though? The Secret Service Director, when she showed up to Congress with zero answers.

Brad:

And she thought she could stonewall Congress. Oh Wait, answers. And she thought she could stonewall congress.

Dylan:

Oh wait, you have to give them answers apparently bullshit, I don't know. Whatever. She resigned after day one of testimony, though. Oh, I got hammered I would too.

Brad:

She got hammered, I would. I would just resign from listening to those people talk. I would have resigned before I even showed her like I thought you're right, we lied yeah, I mean we didn't do it.

Dylan:

They had a, they had an anti-drone machine. That quote unquote just wasn't working that day.

Brad:

Okay, like okay is this conspiracy now? Or? I know it's not a conspiracy, this is just it was negligence.

Dylan:

Okay, that's all it was yeah I don't know when people get all worried, like and you're like, no, it's just negligence. Negligence often gets, that's all it was. Yeah. I don't know when people get all worried. They're like, oh, and you're like, no, it was just negligence.

Brad:

Negligence often gets misconstrued for conspiracy.

Dylan:

Churchill. What was his quote Um?

Brad:

uh, no, it's, it's, it's. It's just easier to believe, you know people, people are dumb than people are just the cabal of evil things yeah, but it's a don't misconstrue what was yeah yeah, yeah, everybody knows what you're talking about. Can't wait for you to wake up tomorrow upside down. Oh, what was it don't uh. Oh, what is he?

Dylan:

yeah, just look it up, I can't remember it it basically says like anytime you think someone's being an aggressor towards you, just it's easier to assume that they just don't understand or that they're just, it's just, yeah, stupidity don't I don't know, sorry, you don't know.

Brad:

Never attribute malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity. Yes, thank you, it's basically that.

Dylan:

Yeah, god, that took me like two seconds to find lan's razor is what it is never attribute to malice that was, which is adequately explained by stupidity, and I that is hard. When people do stupid shit against you, you get angry you get emotional, and so it's easier to just to make some big thing out of it.

Dylan:

But yeah, but you don't have to turn it into like you know I get really mad about and this goes back to the conversations we've had about, um, uh, how do I describe it? Information overload. There's information overload, but it's that open-mindedness which is just because you're a conspiracy theorist doesn't mean you're open-minded. It's being open to the information around you and being able to distill that Boring. It is boring, but we can't keep anything in this society a secret. How do you think there's a secret society out there?

Brad:

We can't keep anything a secret? Nothing.

Dylan:

We know that aliens exist.

Brad:

They kept that locked up. Pretty good, there's not Okay For a while. A while okay, it's out now, is it they? Yes, I just had this conversation with my son oh god, he goes last is literally last night. Uh, do aliens exist? And I said there are questions and then there are better questions, and he was like yeah so, and I was like shut it questions.

Dylan:

You're not picking better questions down right now yeah, I was like does?

Brad:

has anyone seen an alien on this planet? I don't know, I don't have the answer to that. Have they ever been to this planet? Don't know, don't have an answer to that. In all of history, eternity, existence, are there aliens? Yeah, I would well, almost with certainty. Yes, so does it matter if they're here or not? Yeah, it probably does, right? No, he's a member of our family and he needs to be here tonight with all of us.

Brad:

Aliens. He's going to come up and play with us tonight. Ladies and gentlemen, would you please welcome Mr Shane Hawkins on the drum? Well, he's not an alien, could be? Look at his hair?

Dylan:

I can't see his hair, we're going to begin where we ended.

Brad:

No, or head where we began.

Dylan:

Thank God Hit it. No, he hasn't even started bashing on the drums yet. Don't care, we're just going to really let this one go.

Brad:

Good. As he starts busting into it, I'm going to bust a nut, bang my head Like that. This kid goes hard. I wish my face was in front of that bass drum right now. Bye, guys, you're still here. It's over. Go home, go.

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