Terribly Unoblivious

Meditatively Unaware: Navigating Self-Deception and Personal Resilience

Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 32

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Have you ever wondered if you're your own harshest critic or if you're blissfully oblivious like the rest of us? Join Brad and Dylan as they embark on a hilarious yet deeply introspective journey through the frosty landscapes of self-preservation and self-deception. With a blend of candid humor and genuine reflection, they tackle the intriguing concept of being "Meditatively Unaware," questioning whether it's preferable to remain politely detached from our truths. As we navigate this metaphorical tundra, you'll hear quotes and anecdotes that spark both laughter and contemplation on personal success and resilience.

In this episode, we reflect on the human condition and the surprising endurance that accompanies it. Whether it's enduring chronic pain or surviving the daily grind, we take a raw, honest look at how people reconcile ongoing struggles. Brad and Dylan share their own experiences with physical and emotional challenges, pondering if most of us are merely trudging through a mediocre existence. Is it possible that 90% of us are oblivious, while a vocal 10% are our own toughest critics? This conversation promises to be both entertaining and soul-searching, challenging you to engage more authentically with your inner world.

Brad

on a desolate frozen tundra surrounded by mindless brain-numbing cold takes. Two bros trek through the nothingness to bring hope to a new generation. You are about to experience brad and dylan's hot takes. Here we go again again.

Dylan

hey, brad, but remember the time we had a conversation about how we lie to ourselves? Nope, what do you lie to yourself about most?

Brad

I don't remember that conversation.

Dylan

I feel like it only happened a few minutes ago, and when I say a few minutes, I mean like two or three days ago. Why do you like this? I like the idea that we lie to ourselves for self-preservation. It's a fascinating topic for me. I lie to myself all the time, self-preservation.

Brad

Yeah.

Dylan

Or self-fulfillment.

Brad

I don't know if I lie to myself as much as I avoid myself. What's the difference? I don't know. I think lying to yourself would be saying I'm fine and avoiding myself would be be saying I'm fine and avoiding myself would be saying I'm not fine, but I'm not going to look at that right now. I'm going to look over here.

Dylan

That's a really blurry line. Do people actually distinguish that line or? I don't know I do.

Brad

Maybe, maybe. I don't like the term line.

Dylan

Cordially uninvolved. I don, maybe, maybe I don't like the term lying Cordially uninvolved, I don't know.

Brad

What would you rather say? Meditatively unaware?

Dylan

That's not bad. I like that Meditatively unaware Miltimig hats. That could be our new merch.

Brad

Meditatively unaware.

Dylan

Meditatively unaware. Okay, put it down Terribly unoblivious. Meditatively unaware. Meditatively unaware.

Brad

Okay, put it down. Terribly unoblivious, meditatively unaware, I like it. Yep, which, if we're talking about lying to myself, I was reading you some quotes from random scribblings. Let's do it. Do you want the funny? Let's do the not funny one first. Oh, there's a not funny one. Well, it's funny to me. Might not be funny to other people.

Dylan

There are no points for second place.

Brad

Oh, I better start strong then. Thank you, Top Gun. Thinking about not having killed yourself for 30 years as a success doesn't really feel like a success. Rule number one you admire a character for trying more than for their success. Those were unrelated. I can't remember where I got these from. I was reading something and they were just quotes and that felt like it was funny.

Dylan

after that, it is really funny though, because no, but like the first one you said how, how many people resonate, and not even necessarily to a self-harm level, but a. I feel like I'm going through life and I've accepted the human, the, the human body, the human condition. We were extremely resilient in the fact that we accept so much, and it's I've talked about. I've talked to people that have had back pain and I've had my own physical pain for various reasons, where you live with it for a year, two years, three years, and then you finally go and get it corrected and then you're like, how did I live that long with that pain? How did I? You with Crohn's, your own battle? Like, how did I live this long with this? Yeah, heroin, cocaine is a hell of a drug, um, but just saying that I haven't done it for 30 years doesn't seem like a victory it kind of resonates with a lot.

Dylan

I mean, that's what I mean like hey, it's not supposed to just be mediocre for that long, not saying it's supposed to be instantly gratifying for ever. There should I. There should absolutely be some down times, there should be some up times, but 30 years of just me, right?

Brad

oh, you know, I don't know, but I followed that up with that I'm, and a lot I think a lot of us probably are that we're our own biggest critic.

Dylan

Do you think so?

Brad

Or do you think?

Dylan

that, like 90% of the world, is oblivious, and that 10% are the biggest critics and are the most noisy about it.

Brad

No, to themselves or in general.

Dylan

I think a lot of people have like no self-awareness. There's that. I mean, that's kind of the whole topic of this podcast is self-awareness.

Brad

That definitely happens. But I think, to the extent that people do think about themselves, they're doing it more so than anyone else else is typically, if that makes sense. So more so than anyone else else is typically, if that makes sense. So so in that sense, if someone thinks I'm a piece of shit, they have a long way to go before they're on my level. It reminds me of that liar, liar scene.

Brad

I'm kicking my own ass royal blue that's what it feels like a little bit, and is so you have no idea where they you, where you got these from what I know, I wrote those, I know, but these, uh, no, there was another one like how long?

Dylan

how long ago was that in the journal of thought? No, like a week or two. Oh, I didn't know. These are some of your no, no, bradley meandering, these are just script not brad meandering, these bradley college meandering, yeah, oh that, uh, we can talk about something else yeah maybe no we, I think we talked about uh, do we talk about the the bad, the bad visions after surgery?

Brad

a little bit on here, yeah, where I was seeing very graphic, graphic faces yeah, post-surgery not really. It was very, very strange okay. And then I think it was brit that said it was probably the drugs which yeah, that episode never made it remember.

Brad

Oh, we cut those episodes yeah, no, they're here, we're, we're, we're censured. They're here somewhere censured. Um, they should probably come out. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, that was a good one. People need to know the truth, okay, but having a rough week or two over the last month, there's a thing called what is it Like? Passive suicidal thoughts? So it's just this, like this internal dialogue yeah. That's how the earth turns, god, the worst. You can't slide one by me. No, we're not. We're talking about Coriolis effect.

Dylan

I'm really sad to see.

Brad

I was really sad. But so it's just this internal monologue that you have right. So there there's no, versus an active where people are sending goodbye notes and selling shit and all that kind of stuff. So I read something there. So it's like this passive idea, but the sense that after so, after surgery, I have a part of me that feels like a sense of rebirth, like I get to do this all over again. And then there's this other little part of me that's like you could just die. That was the way out, that was it that you're asleep. Look at, that's it.

Dylan

And then poop, purple fall night night do you feel like you would have missed anything? But yeah, I would miss this right now, no, okay, this, this sucks.

Brad

But do you?

Dylan

feel would you have?

Brad

would you have overwhelming regret for and would I or would it just restart all over again?

Dylan

and we're not gonna get into that. Come on, no, we're gonna start with. I want to do it. We're gonna start with would you if you could look back at it? But and you can have no thoughts of I could have controlled things differently. It was purely retrospective, with zero ability to change that. You don't have that feeling in your gut that says I could have changed this.

Dylan

I could have done that if you have looked back at your life, would you have been happy? But at that point in time, when you're just like pro fall and I'm out, but you, you have to take out the fact of I would have changed this. It's all purely things I could have done in the future, not retroactive. Are you happy with the events that have led up to that moment? I don't understand the question.

Brad

Okay, would I have wanted to do more?

Dylan

Yeah, you can't go back and go, oh, I wish I would have done this.

Brad

That's why these are passive okay, just that's it right.

Dylan

Fine, does that make sense for the office?

Brad

I mean for the audience that I've said before like that. And well, actually eminem said it, you only lose yourself, you only get one shot spaghetti spaghetti, spaghetti and that's it to me anyways. So shots not done yet kobe said it, kobe's are you happy. Job's not done, job's not done, job's not done when will the job be done?

Dylan

and I'm not saying Job's not done, job's not done. When will the job be done? And I'm not saying your life's over, but what quantifies a happy life?

Brad

Job's not done.

Dylan

You can play your cards close to your chest. That's fine.

Brad

Yeah.

Dylan

Not a quitter, that's heavy, wasn't it?

Brad

It's not that it's heavy.

Dylan

I mean it is. But how do you? How many people actually think on that? What is? And nobody wants? I'm not saying anyone is ready to die or wants to die. That's it's the into the unknown. Um, you know whether you believe in a higher power or not. Either way, that's, it's a, it's uncharted territory. That's it's. It's scary.

Dylan

But at what point do you sit down with yourself and say, when I've accomplished x, I'm okay, and not that I'm not afraid of the future. I'm still timid, I'm still apprehensive, but I'm okay with what I've done in this life? But also, how? How do you? How do you go into the? What motivates you if you're not accomplishing those things, and how do you come to peace with that at the end of your life?

Dylan

That's, that's what I'm trying to wrangle my head around of. How do you? There are only so many things that are in your control. You can do the best you can do in so many situations. But if you have wild aspirations of I want to be the next great movie star, I want to be the next great pop star, I want to be you know some of those unattainable things where it's like you can absolutely work as hard as you can at some of that, but some of it's luck, some of it is you are destined for it. You know there's. How do you take the items that are chance and how do you still be okay with what you did in life?

Brad

I don't there's god, I gotta find it now because I'm sorry I wrote about that too it's. I got to find it now because I just I wrote about that too it's.

Dylan

this idea of pain Is it the idea of chasing excellence versus obtaining excellence.

Brad

So people tend to ask what, what do you want out of life, what do you want to be, what do you want to have, what do you want to do? What do you want out of life? What do you want to be, what do you want to have, what do you want to do? And somebody said what pain do you want in your life? What pain are you willing to go through and accept so that you can have the life you want?

Dylan

I will bite an apple.

Brad

right now, you bite an apple, that's okay, her name's Eve, oh, eve, oh yeah, she did it. Go go get it, go get it, girl. But when you, when you put it like that, uh, I think it kind of takes on a different perspective. So, like, what do you want?

Dylan

I want to be happy.

Brad

Okay, what the fuck does that look like? What do you have to do to be happy?

Dylan

What makes you happy.

Brad

That's too broad. What is it? Is it a relationship? Okay, are you willing to go through the pain of miscommunication and fights and the emotional stuff and highs and lows and all of those things Like it's not? Anything that is worth it, that makes you happy is not going to be pain-free. No, and to the higher level that you want it, more pain will be involved, absolutely in some way, shape or form, and so, in a sense, when you're setting goals that you, that are realistic, that you really want to have you're, you're accepting the type of pain that you want in your life.

Dylan

That's a really good way to put it. I don't think enough people. So we start with. We start with the end goal, which is I want X. Yeah, and that can be obtuse, it can be not, you know, vague, it doesn't need to be but to what you're saying is so many people just leave it at I want this or X. But reverse, engineer it backwards now and go what is it going to take to get there? And am I okay with sleepless nights going to take to get there? And I'm, am I okay with sleepless nights? Am I okay with, am I okay with, you know, being uncertain about my partner for a few days while we're trying to figure out if we're on the same page when it comes to how we want to continue this relationship? It it's not rainbows and butterflies.

Brad

No, and one example from what you've talked about before was when your parents were willing to displease themselves in order to hold down a punishment. Yeah, over you. Yeah, that's. That's something where, okay, it do. I think this is being a good parent, and if I think that it is, does it suck for me to do yes? Is it worth the end goal?

Dylan

Yes.

Brad

I think so. So it's doing those kinds of things where it's not just the good stuff. So I I thought about it as, um, there's pain in becoming something new. How bad do you want the new versus how bad do you hate the old? Like, you want the new because it's new. Do you want the new because it's it's not old, it's different? Like, do you really dislike where you're at or who you're with or what you're doing and who you're becoming enough?

Dylan

to change and there's a reason that the statement the devil you know is so popular.

Brad

Yeah.

Dylan

Words. Are you comfy? You're not comfy. And how much? How much do you hate comfy for a lack of exploration?

Brad

Yeah, do you make excuses. Do you make improvements? Are you proud of yourself? Oh, stop. Yeah, do you make excuses? Do you make improvements? Are you proud of?

Dylan

yourself.

Brad

Oh hard, stop. This session is over. What do you say, rambo? Nothing is over Nothing. You have exploding arrows. Not yet, not yet. No, I'm still on m60. Uh, this was the one of the quotes. To go back to the pain thing, um, what we get out of life is not determined by the good feelings we desire, but by what bad feelings we're willing and able to sustain to get us to those good feelings. So if you think about it in terms of levels, if you can't withstand enough bad, you're not going to get the great highs. You're going to end up in that mediocre section. Your lows are not so low and your highs are not very high. The difference between the two are not going to be dramatic.

Dylan

How do you? And so some people will misconstrue that, for I absolutely know the person I'm with right now is not the right person and we do have some knockdown drag out fights and we have a terrible relationship. But maybe, if we keep going through this, that's really hard, so it's going to get better, Okay, and it's because it's easier, but then that's where you got to have to. People need to learn the different shit, it's like. But then that's where you have to. People need to learn the different, it's like well, this is easier for me to stick around versus I need to make a conscious decision to grow.

Brad

Yeah, I think back to what you said before about uh, what is it? The devil, you know? I think that's what it is. I it's not easier. I don't think it is easier to stay in those bad situations. It's just maybe Unfamiliarity. I think it's less uncomfortable in the short term. So going through a big breakup after a long relationship and something that you know is not working, your whole is going to be system gets rocked.

Brad

Yeah, it's going to be very painful because your whole system has been defined by a partner in in that short period of time, yeah, and so there's going to be a massive change and a lot of pain that goes with that. But on the flip side of that there's there's a very high upside potential mm-hmm versus it. I already know the pain that I'm in in this relationship and by not changing it, that doesn't change.

Dylan

I can, there's no, I already know how to.

Brad

Yeah, there's no dynamic movement, but there's also the potential. Upside is also much slimmer, because, especially if it's been a long-term thing, you you kind of know where you're at. So that would have to be some pretty dynamic movement, probably on both parts to to see a massive change, if that's what was needed. So so I think it is a little bit the like I can look at it from, like my surgery point of view. I went, it was, it was just like this constant pain of yeah, I can, I can kind of deal with this, and then every once in a while it gets really bad. But thinking about being cut open and going through like a two month recovery versus a three day recovery and potential for an ileostomy.

Brad

Yeah, I mean some other downsides and not knowing what the upside could be could be great, but it could also be the exact same. But it could also be the exact same. It could also be the exact same plus a bag plus who? Knows. So there is definitely a fear of of the unknown and yeah sometimes you gotta fucking jump and you know, let the lady have her scalpel.

Dylan

I think it was Indiana Jones going after the uh, the cup, the oh, when he had to take the blind, the blind stuff on the bridge. Oh, oh, when he had to take the blind, the blind stuff on the bridge.

Brad

Oh, yeah, that one.

Dylan

Raiders of the Lost Ark right.

Brad

No, yeah, no, that was Indiana Jones. And the Last Crusade Yep, okay, raiders was the Ark of the Covenant, the Holy Grail.

Dylan

No, oh, he's going for the Ark. Yes, you're right.

Brad

Sorry the arc had some very strange power that turned everybody to skeletons. I believe, I'm pretty sure like they opened it and everybody just fried and turned to skeletons.

Dylan

The last crusade was not the chalice, I'm pretty sure the last crusade was chalice.

Brad

I'm pretty sure the Last Crusade was Chalice, was it? Yep, trust me, it's one of the best ones. But yeah, you got to take the leap. I guess Fuck it was. And following up that bad feelings, to get good at dealing with negative experiences is to get good at dealing with life.

Dylan

That's it. Full, full, full sentence. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's just, it's not easy.

Brad

Remember, remember what life is like a penis it's hard, but it can't stay hard. How old is your?

Dylan

son. I love that your son was making dick jokes.

Brad

It probably wasn't even him. I'm sure it was somebody else that wrote it.

Dylan

I don't even know what a penis is, and undoubtedly yes, dad, yes Dad.

Brad

It was not original, I'm sure. I'm sure it was not an original quote. Yeah, try writing down your thoughts every once in a while instead of copying.

Dylan

How do you feel about copyright? Like, I don't know. I hate you, I know it's. Do you have any other words of wisdom on that notepad over yours over there?

Brad

yeah, I do. I was talking to the soccer kids last night about it and to along with this. To get good at dealing with negative experiences is to get good at dealing with life, and so we were talking about pain and you know what they want, what they want to improve at, what they want in life, blah, blah, all this kind of stuff and what does it?

Dylan

what does a 12 year?

Brad

old. Uh, they want a hot wife. Turns out really yeah. And and then what do they define by hot? I have no idea.

Dylan

I you might want qualitative no, I don't I don't really okay. No, I don't think I want to go into that. I think for podcast day steak. We need you to supply a written test and, hey boys, if you get outside the circle it will not count.

Brad

So make sure that you fill that in correctly. I don't know.

Dylan

And it must be a number two lead. Oh, it wouldn't be a podcast if the door wasn't an opening and closing.

Brad

He just made me keep doing this until you came home. I'm curious. But the kid was like, oh well, see, you have to be a millionaire if you want to have a hot wife. Oh my god. And I was like I don't are they just watching tick?

Dylan

is this, is this coming from tiktok? Where's this coming from?

Brad

it's gotta be social media. It's gotta be social media. And I was like no that's not true at all.

Dylan

Yeah, otherwise you gotta have mad riz this is what this is mad riz, mad riz. What is mad riz beyond?

Brad

money mad skibity ohio toilet riz.

Dylan

Nobody has riz, I don't know what the fuck they're saying these days I have to ask people all the time.

Brad

That's, and I and I feel like I'm reasonably with it okay, sure, I'm connected to the youth, I guess, okay.

Brad

And so I I told him absolutely that was false and that, uh, if I, if I talk to a thousand girls, oh right, I'm like, do you think that by the time I talked to the thousandth one, that I would be significantly better at talking? Because that was the thing. I was like, yeah, but what if you don't have any money and you're really bad at talking to girls? I was like, well then, fucking, talk to more girls, talk to more girls. Yeah, this is a numbers game. So I said I'm going to be better at it at a thousand than I was at one Criss Angel Mind, better at it at a thousand than I was at one chris angel mind. Freak. There you go. That's was that? What was that one show where they had the pimp guy on.

Dylan

Yeah, he looked like chris angel but he was yes.

Brad

What was that show? Artist? The pickup that was scary. I know that guy's probably in prison.

Dylan

He had a top hat. He had gloves with his knuckles cut off and he would walk into the club and act like he was the coolest guy and you're like, no, no one in this club would ever go home with you. I don't understand, no.

Brad

No, exactly what city were they in? Probably Cleveland. No, couldn't have been the Midwest.

Dylan

Do we really get Cleveland's?

Brad

not the.

Dylan

Midwest no no.

Brad

I think it is. No, it's not Appalachia. They're one of those areas, that's like nobody claims them.

Dylan

Midwest doesn't claim them, the East doesn't claim them. Rust Belt we don't claim them either.

Brad

No, I don't claim them either. No, I don't know what that would be. Ohio has got its own real problems right now. Yeah Right, isn't that like a meme? Isn't Ohio a meme basically?

Dylan

Why wouldn't it be? Look at that state it sucks. Well, that's.

Brad

Sorry to all our viewers. That's the meme. Yeah, supposedly sucks well that's sorry to all our viewers. That's the meme. Yeah, supposedly tom brokaw's from ohio. Yeah, look at him liar.

Dylan

No, that was um.

Brad

That was his successor no, well, you know who brian adams not summer of night, oh 1970, brian summer of 70, brian, I was in a helicopter getting shot down, but actually wasn't. But actually wasn't. Um, it was just a story. I heard why that I made it. How?

Dylan

again. So this is even before, and I'm not going to get into this conversation because it's I, it's so subjective and I don't give a fuck anymore. Before. Quote unquote woke media. How do you succeed Tom Brokaw, become the NBC news anchor before the country gets as divided as it does? And then you proceed to have a fake testimony of being in a helicopter where your neighbor got shot down and you were lucky to survive, and then everyone with you was like uh, what are you talking about? You had the perfect career. You didn't need any fake or stolen valor. His ratings were fine. He was still the number one in the country.

Brad

He was the nbc on air he did yeah, that was uh brian cranston no, that's the drug dealer damn it brian media. Do I have to google this?

Dylan

yes, figure it out. But his uh, when he left uh, msnbc, because they gave him a job on msnbc. Yeah, he was scathing towards the media, oh yeah it was.

Brad

That was a pain he was willing to endure. I don't know who knows for what end.

Dylan

Nobody's seen him since Brian Williams, so close. I don't understand, though, but like he was, he was actually okay. How many?

Brad

like what? What is this? You know, catch me if you can. Yeah, it's a little like that. What can I get away with?

Dylan

yeah, you're not wrong, uh, but I wonder, I wonder. But you're in media. The whole identity of media is the questions around it. Who's this?

Brad

effect. What effect does it have?

Dylan

on the population. Can it be verified? Like all those like, have you heard of tucker carlson? Well, he likes his zins and he likes russian white bread okay, so actually we should start a brand called russian white bread.

Brad

I just saw and sell it for 79 cents I just saw a thing that is called white zinfandel. Are they zen? You put two zins into a white monster and let it steep, and then that's awesome, have at it. I'm in.

Dylan

I've never had it in my life, I haven't either I'm not sure if that would be good for us.

Brad

Probably not. Maybe Possibly, I don't know.

Dylan

Who's worse, tucker Carlson or Brett Baer? I'm Brett Baer. That was a good, that was a bad, I forgot about him.

Brad

That was old school Fox, right? No?

Dylan

Brett Baer's still the younger guy.

Brad

Is it? Pull a picture of him. I got to see it. Who am I thinking of? I'm thinking of somebody early 2000s who came on before. What the fuck is that guy's name? I don't even remember. I don't like this job anymore. I know, here you go, look at how much Botox he's had.

Brad

None, none, I shouldn't make fun of that Significant. If a bulldog was a person, that might be Pretty close, possibly. If a bulldog was a person, that might be, yeah, pretty close, possibly fox. Wow, who are you going after? Which guy much older? And these are all the worst. You know what I love watching in the mornings fox and friends. You know what I love watching in the mornings Fox and friends. It's just us hanging out. It's so bad.

Dylan

It's just. I'm sorry, but all news is terrible. It's really hard anymore.

Brad

It's not good.

Dylan

It's a lot of not good stuff.

Brad

It's not really news either.

Dylan

It's not news.

Brad

It's as much news as this is.

Dylan

So this is the dichotomy, this is the paradox of what we've talked about on this show Everyone's responsible for their own knowledge. Have we talked about that? Sure, no, I don't want you to placate to me, I want you to talk to me straight, real fast.

Brad

As in like, ignorance of the law is not an excuse.

Dylan

Yeah.

Brad

Okay.

Dylan

So everyone is supposed to think critically?

Brad

It's a big ask, yeah okay, I'm not saying it's not a big ask All right, all right.

Dylan

we, whether you believe it or not, news was probably at one point in time pretty.

Brad

not by it I mean not, not saying, just pretty it was report, it was just reported, it was just report. Now, what in? What was given to people to report. You could judge that however you wanted to.

Dylan

Whoever was in control of that information? Up until a point in time, it was zero opinion facts. And to your point, what was or wasn't? There's some discrepancies there. Yes, there's some discrepancies there. Yes, now we have reporting opinions with some fact yeah, some omitted fact. And now we're asking people to be educated, and they don't get it from a easy source, which the united or the general populace is not good about easy and convenient. If it's not easy and convenient, we're not going to do it. So now I've got to go to the internet, which is super trustworthy, and try to figure out what the fuck is actually going on. So are we setting our? I mean, are we too critical of the people or should we be more critical of the system? Um?

Brad

No, I think you've got to be critical of the ideas honestly.

Dylan

The perpetration of the ideas. To me it's the system and I'm not anti.

Brad

It's hard for me because I but I could go to TikTok and say this is disseminating a massive amount of false information.

Dylan

You could say that, though, because you have a much higher IQ than the person next to you. Yes, but it's which? That is and IQ. By all intent, you can't change your IQ. Very little you can do about it. Either you're born smart or you're not.

Brad

However, so that is true. There's a large amount of misinformation disseminated on social media because of the live nature of things like tiktok. It also provides a very clear reporting status of what is happening in real time, so you can get events yeah, what do from? They have fact checks? No, but you, you can get, you can see live. So what I'm saying is like you're getting live reporting without, without the bias from bystanders, like this is happening right here.

Brad

Okay, right. So there is. There is another sense where, maybe in a country that would not give out that actual information to news sources, other people are able to report on that or not report, but show what's actually happening, right. So you have the good and the bad, and so I think what is required, I think what some people believe is that you have to know everything. Well, what's your thought on Israel and Palestine? Fuck all. I mean, I feel like maybe I should have an opinion on this, because everybody else seems to have a fucking opinion on this, and then they'll throw out a couple of talking points, and then what am I supposed to know? The whole fucking hundred year history of this and exactly everything that's happening, because that's a lot and I have to go to work. You can't keep up with all that.

Dylan

No.

Brad

So a lot of it is just putting these little sound bites into into videos and be like oh, here you go, snack on that. And then just having the ability to say, I don't know, I don't know. I mean, I know that there's some. They did some bad shit, they did some bad shit. There's still shit going on. I don't know, I am not a conflict resolutionist. Yeah, I mean, where's Dennis Rodman?

Dylan

Doesn't he do shit?

Brad

like this.

Dylan

He was with Kim Jones.

Brad

He was just like hey I play basketball.

Dylan

You like basketball, let's do this. I knew Michael Jordan. Hey, I play basketball.

Brad

You like basketball, let's do this. I knew Michael Jordan, you got a bad haircut. Let's go. That's weird. You're not wrong. That's weird.

Dylan

You're not wrong.

Brad

So yeah, send.

Dylan

Dennis to Israel. We should make those t-shirts too. Not only are we going to do, what did I say?

Brad

Can we get rid of news channels?

Dylan

I think the moment yeah, how do you do that? That's the problem. The moment you can somehow figure out a systemic way to make news and not be able to make money, yeah, yeah.

Brad

I mean it's got to make some money. It's got to make money but it could be non-profit, Like it pays for itself.

Dylan

Yeah, right, but that's NPR, yeah, yeah.

Brad

So they're totally unbiased. Mostly yeah. Yeah. If you really want a good opinion, just go to some other country's news about that's true. Our country. Yeah, yeah, a good opinion. Just go to some other countries. News about, it's true, our country. No, it's not bad, it's usually. It's usually different. I, I personally love north korea and china I don't feel like they're putting north korea's putting out a lot of what?

Dylan

what are their news channels like?

Brad

they, they have to be a rerun. Just how amazing.

Dylan

You think they just like UPS, like VHS tapes to every?

Brad

house.

Dylan

No, I think it's probably like yeah, just play this for the next three nights. Wait, wait, wait. On Monday you stop at one oh eight, and then on Tuesday you start at one oh 8.5. Welcome to Tuesday and welcome to Tuesday.

Brad

I know this might seem pre-recorded, but it's not.

Dylan

It's definitely live.

Brad

Thank you, almighty leader. Then you get to Wednesday. You're like I don't know about this. It feels like 1984. That's what it would feel like the book. Yeah, just constant propaganda, kind of like that apple commercial.

Dylan

What apple commercial? Apple commercial did uh george orwell? Really oh my god, they threw the sledgehammer through the screen. This was back when 2000? No, 1984. Post-1984. Post-84. 1984.

Brad

Apple Macintosh.

Dylan

Yep, it was a Macintosh commercial. You ever seen this one?

Brad

This was from one year ago 1984., oh, was it a Super Bowl ad. Let's celebrate the first glorious anniversary of the information purification practice, 1984. Oh, was it a Super Bowl ad. Ugh Wait who's this?

Dylan

This is Apple commercial.

Brad

I know who's the girl running with the sledgehammer? Don't know.

Dylan

Are you sure?

Brad

It's not Blade Runner. Oh, why is she running like that Very Baywatch? What's going to happen? She's running. Why is she wearing a Hooters outfit? Don't know.

Dylan

Weird Apple's probably going to sue her ass, whoa.

Brad

Whoa, whoa, she's hammer throwing what? No, that's not. On january 24th, apple computer will introduce macintosh and you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984. Wait what? This was actually in the 80s.

Dylan

Yeah, what, yeah, how have you never seen that?

Brad

I thought they were just doing a throwback. Wait, Did Hooters steal her outfit? Quite possibly, when was Hooters started? So this was what was that?

Dylan

1983?.

Brad

I don't know. Obviously, obviously it was right before 84, right, maybe? No, nobody wants to order hooters online start oh, yeah, because you know, here you go whoa 83, 40 years old, shut up.

Dylan

Uh what? Hey man? What happened? Conspiracy theory, brad?

Brad

oh my god how did I fall into that turn on man? So october 4th 1983. We're going to have to find out the exact date of that commercial.

Dylan

Because either they stole that or they were in cahoots. See what you did there.

Brad

Mm-hmm. Oh, funny story. The older soccer team at our last tournament said that if they won they wanted to go to Hooters. Why? And I was like, why do you want to be punished? Let's make something good.

Dylan

I mean, maybe we could go to Grand City, I don't know.

Brad

And they're like well, just for lunch. And I was like no, no, no, no, no, no, you don't go during lunch, you want coffee. And they're like why not Like, listen, listen, listen listen, listen you go.

Dylan

Daddy was a pro, not during lunch, daddy was a pro.

Brad

You go, you start at happy hour and you just ride the storm out. That's, that's what you do.

Dylan

Are you an advocate for an 18 year old drinking age brad?

Brad

oh, be curious, not judgment I'm trying to be, I'm trying to be, I maybe raise it. Raise what at 25?

Dylan

yeah, you can't rent a car, can't drink. The only issue I have is um, I don't, and I don't know how valid they're valid the argument is anymore. But if you're allowed to get drafted in the military, yeah, you should what?

Brad

you should be able to have a fucking cocktail. But what are the stats on other countries Like? These stats have to exist. So if you have a 16, 17, 18 drinking age, it's not 16, it's 18.

Dylan

Yeah, whatever.

Brad

Okay, it probably was like 14 at one point.

Dylan

I mean, I think you can drink beer at 16 in the UK.

Brad

So what do the bad side effects of that look like?

Dylan

I mean, what does alcoholism look like?

Brad

I absolutely what does binge drinking look like? What does alcohol poisoning look like? The effects.

Dylan

The effects show that you're as both male and female, till the time you're about 21, 23 depending on your maturity age, and really 25 if you want to take it to the extreme. Your brain isn't fully developed and then it does have some adverse effects.

Brad

Okay.

Dylan

But I don't think adverse effects have been quantified. I think it just says adverse effects. So is it a 1%, a 2%, a 5% a?

Brad

10 a five percent. I mean someone's blacking out from getting hit by baseball, but that never stopped me. So football all of it so how do you?

Dylan

how do you? It's I don't know if the studies exist where it compares any of that brain development function across.

Brad

Yeah, contact sports all there, there is a, there's an idea, and I'm sure there's probably plenty of so of work out here, done that. If you take away something enticing like if you just show okay, okay, this this is makes it worse. Yeah, this isn't illegal anymore, this is just. You can do this if you want to.

Dylan

Even in the uk, though, they have uh, they have 21 and older bars. I'm pretty sure they even have 25 and older bars Like fucking adults. You can buy alcohol, but you can't come into this bar because you're not 21. And I'm pretty sure there's still 25-year-old bars over there too. You can't come into this bar because you're not 25. There's probably 85-year-old bars over there. That'd be sick. I'm sure there are. I was always thinking about that. There's a market in this town for 30 and older bars.

Brad

That's stupid, 30-year-olds are dumb.

Dylan

That was funny, yeah, that was cute On the nose, if you will third yeah, 30, and that does.

Brad

What does that? Even look like.

Dylan

This looks like a restaurant no, I think those are the bars I go to. I think you still get blackout.

Brad

40 year old, 40 and over bars. Are it's mexican restaurants? Damn, anything about that. Yeah, let's go. So we do a bar with chorizo and chips. You know you don't need to, they already exist. You just go. What do you want?

Dylan

what happens if you didn't have a hot redhead to go home to like would I go there by myself? Yeah, I go there by myself all the time yeah, but are you going there to pick up other chicks?

Brad

no, exactly is that? Is that what I'm supposed to do at a bar?

Dylan

no, that's never what I've done at a bar. We're talking about singles like that was not explained. Now it is okay so if you didn't have a hot redhead to go home to that likes to puke after most mexican restaurant experiences.

Brad

I I shannon I'm talking about you. I mean, I still think that this is the way to go. I still think this is the way to go. I like it, yeah, I, I. I don't think I can change my tune on this if it was between that and some rookies I can tell you went to bradley no hard pass. Yeah, no lumpies, grumpies, lumpies, lumpies.

Dylan

That was the thing, yeah that was on the hilltop, right. Yeah, yeah, lumpy's was on the hilltop, mm-hmm, no, okay, fair.

Brad

I'm right there with you. I don't, I don't, I would. I feel like if it was Mexican every time you got shot down, it's still a win.

Dylan

What I can't pour queso on your breasts. Okay, I'm just gonna eat it I'm gonna eat it.

Brad

This margarita is still good like it's. This place doesn't smell like beer spilled all over the floor for three months dude how many times you, how many times you?

Dylan

just, you just walk into a bar and you're just like they just stick.

Brad

It's from all the schnapps, it's all the sugar.

Dylan

These kids don't even know what Dr McGillicuddy's is anymore.

Brad

He's some mad dog.

Dylan

Okay, so life lessons from this podcast for anyone out there listening Don't drink. Don't drink. If you do, don't go pick up chicks at a Mexican restaurant. A hundred percent Agave Right.

Brad

Agave, that's what I said. Agave, that's better. Yeah, that's sweeter. Be curious, not judgmental, unless you want to be.

Dylan

Yeah, true, all right, it was fun while it lasted, was it no? Do you have some other parting thoughts that you want to talk about?

Brad

Hooters and Apple oh.

Dylan

Hooters and Apple, that's right.

Brad

Cahoots, cahoots.

Dylan

Look it up, go watch the video.

Brad

I actually don't hate that. I like that conspiracy theory. I don't know how it links together yet, but I'm going to find out.

Dylan

Until next time, Brad and Dylan, Conspiracy Theories, Apple and Hooters. What's Hooters' tagline? More Hooters.

Brad

No, it's not.

Dylan

How many licks does it?

Brad

take to get to the center of a.

Dylan

Tootsie Pop. Our butts are orange and white, really. No, it's the tank top. Oh, all right, guys, toodles are orange and white, really. No, it's the tank top. Oh all right guys, toodles, you're still here it's over go home go.