Terribly Unoblivious

Egg Gravy, Lingerie, And A Tree That Hangs From The Ceiling

Brad Child & Dylan Steil Episode 40

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If social pressure had a season, it would be December. We jump straight into the mess of timelines, labels, and expectations: how long should you wait to commit, and who gets to decide what “dating” even means? The joke about seven dates not being “dating” turns into a smarter question—are we aligned on language and outcomes, or hiding behind ambiguity to dodge responsibility?

From there, we wade into the deep end of holiday logistics: merging family traditions without smothering the magic. Wrapped vs unwrapped gifts, Christmas Eve vs Christmas morning, and the thorny question of holiday travel when kids want to stay home with new toys. We land on a practical principle—keep the feeling, not the script. Nostalgia is about atmosphere, rhythm, and meaning, not perfect replication.

Food rituals add heart and heat: a humble “egg gravy” over buttered toast and a wildly indulgent donut-or-cinnamon-roll custard bake become the soundtrack to a morning that feels like home. We talk about how small, repeatable choices—music in the dark, warm lights in January, easy playlists and cozy textures—can carry winter beyond the tree. Think hygge without the hashtags: keep the white lights, pour something warm, invite friends over for nothing special, and let the season soften.

Along the way, there are dogs tearing stockings, shelter shout-outs with a smart way to sponsor adoptions, tech mishaps with voice assistants and deliveries, and the lightly unhinged humor that keeps families stitched together. The throughline is simple and human: alignment over timelines, boundaries over guilt, traditions over performance. Make the rituals you’ll want to repeat and give them room to evolve.

If this resonates, hit play, share with a friend who’s renegotiating holiday rules, and leave a review with your non-negotiable tradition. Subscribe for more candid, funny, and unexpectedly tender conversations that make winter—and love—a little warmer.

Pressure To Commit And Defining “Dating”

Dylan

This is the Terribly Unoblivious Podcast.

Ferris

Yep. I said it before, and I'll say it again. Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while. You could miss it.

Dylan

Pretty peace.

Shannon

Or 300. I'm sorry, 300.

Dylan

Can we just talk about the bullshit of I'm talking about finding myself and I have at least five years to figure myself out and then I'm getting hit with you need to be married in the next year by you two.

Shannon

No, I didn't say a year. I said you don't have to say five years. Oh, that's a lot of pressure. Brad said that.

Dylan

That's a lot of fucking pressure.

Shannon

Well, no, I'm just saying, like, if let's say like in a year, you're like, man, I'm with somebody. This is the one. I don't think you need to wait five years to be like, okay, yep, you passed the test. We made it five years.

Dylan

That's what I did wrong the last time. Okay, I get it now. I fucked up.

Brad

Okay.

Shannon

Are we recording? Because this is some good stuff. Yeah, do you know?

Brad

Do you know how you get married in one year? Uh grinder. No. No.

Shannon

I've known people that have gotten married within the first like few months of and they're still together. No. Oh. Just of meeting each other, being together, that sort of thing.

Brad

A farmer's wife?

Shannon

No, Brad. No.

Brad

What's that called?

Shannon

Anyways, I feel like people get really hung up on like dates and significance of how long you've been together. And then, you know, if you wait long enough, that'll be a problem.

Dylan

Cousin lives in LA. Actually, both a couple cousins live in LA. I went and visited him. He's like, Oh, I'm gonna bring this girl around. We've been on seven dates. And I'm like, Oh, you're dating her. And he's like, No, no, no, we're not dating. This is the one. I'm like, seven, seven dates. Like the act of dating, like whether you call her your girlfriend or not, I don't care. But like, don't say you're not dating. That's just a like they're doing a suffering club or what? They label everything. And it's just like, no, we oh, that's labeling. We can't do that. I'm like, you guys are fucking weird. Like, yeah, I'm I'm dating this person. We're not we haven't had serious conversations about what we are or where we're going, but we're going on dates, the act of dating.

Shannon

It's not important that I just don't think I ever made it to that where I was dating multiple people.

Brad

Well, it's not it's not important that I couldn't handle it. That sounds exhausting. It is your definition and his definition are different. It's important that his definition and the person that he's going to dinners with are the same.

Shannon

They're on the same path.

Brad

Makes sense? No. Okay, so how you get married in a year is you how do you, Brad? You tell that person that there are no points for second place. That's a good start. Yeah. And also they get to be on this podcast.

Shannon

Uh if I No, wait, let's say they don't have to be on it, but let's this will be the telling point for you. You'd be comfortable having them on the podcast. It doesn't mean you have to pull the trigger and put them on here, but that should be the dividing factor for you. Would I let her come on the podcast with Brad and a copy of her now?

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Wow.

Shannon

Well, I mean, I've only known you to date females. So small of you small so I mean, do you want me to start lining up men for you? I can do that too.

Brad

I'm a pass on the sex this time. Also, when we're not opposed to that.

Shannon

Let's just go ahead and clear that up. We're open to all things. I've just only known Dylan to date women.

Brad

The day you get married, you have to be honest with yourself and say, is this gonna end in divorce? Because that's gonna be the first first subject in our research. And just so you know that we talked about last year.

Shannon

50% of marriages end in divorce. So you got a 50-50 chance.

Dylan

This is the funny part is like, I absolutely know that Brad, they'll be like, I do sign the contract, and then Brad's gonna wheel out the podcast table and be like, okay, we're doing this, right? Do you really do we're doing like we're doing it? Do you? It it you can't. If we're consummating with a podcast.

Shannon

This is Brad and Shannon live from Dylan's wedding.

Dylan

My future.

Brad

You may stick the mic in the bird's me.

Shannon

Although I feel like no, because if she would murder you, then that's not the right one. So you'll inevitably end in divorce. So if you're if you're getting you're engaged and you're like, oh my god, she is gonna find this hysterical. She's a riot, she's gonna love it, then that's the right one. And I saw you hit that mic.

SPEAKER_03

But did you die? But did you die? But where is it? I don't know. Oh God. How do you know?

Shannon

There's a lot of it looks like uh, what's that? Simon says. It looks like a Simon says game over there. Wow.

Dylan

Sorry. I'm that's I can't see it from here. I'm normally closer to the this is such a cozy, I gotta like, I need to get a stand so it's like right here and I can do things. You need to get that Elon Musk chip in your head. That'd be sick. No, it wouldn't.

Brad

Okay, never mind.

SPEAKER_01

I'm getting really excited about this possibility of another female on the podcast that is gonna be your future wife or your wife.

Brad

Don't get too excited about it because it's probably not gonna happen. No, he's years down the road.

Shannon

It's gonna happen. He's absolutely I feel very confident in this. I think I think it's gonna happen.

Dylan

Is it hot in here? If it doesn't happen in the next year, I've I mean I'm warm, but I drank some wine and I think. I'm gonna quit. Uh you should quit. Maybe more room for me.

SPEAKER_03

Quit.

SPEAKER_01

Really, Rad.

Dylan

All right. What are we?

SPEAKER_03

I can't quit you.

SPEAKER_01

I like this. Let's go down this path some more, Dylan.

Labels, Seven Dates, And Expectations

Brad

Let's talk about no, you're going real off the Christmas theme here.

SPEAKER_01

I don't care. You guys have done it to me twice already.

Dylan

She's she's one of us. She gets it. She's like, no, side roads are way more. Side quests are way more fun.

Shannon

Let's get into this.

Dylan

Should we start a new series called SideQuest? Oh, you want to talk about this? No.

Shannon

That would also be a really good t-shirt. So side quests.

Dylan

So we've got Brad's, we've got Brad's hot takes. Do I have to do the side quest one? Can I do like a jingle, like uh like a save big money at Minards style side quest? Ooh, they got sued. Save big money at Minards?

Shannon

Why?

Brad

Uh, because they said everything's 11% off, and that's not factual. It's a rebate.

Shannon

What mathematician called that one out?

Dylan

Well, I mean I'm trying to think in my head how that would go. What you want to talk about this? Well, we're gonna side quest. I don't I don't know. Are you gonna make a jingle? Let's talk about side quests. Oh no, no, no. Let's talk about me and you. Let's talk about side quests. That's our let's not talk about you. Let's talk about me and side quest. I don't know how we're okay. I like where we're going with this.

SPEAKER_01

Gosh, you're gonna have to get another mic. I have another mic. Oh, what about a headset?

Dylan

I have another headset, but it's not it's not for it's not for anyone. Blue ice double espresso. What is that? Have you ever seen that? Mm-mm. Okay. What is it just coffee liqueur?

Brad

Uh it's espresso flavored vodka.

Shannon

Is that for like martinis?

Brad

I don't know. Somebody sent it to me. I thought if anybody'd know, you'd know. Okay.

Dylan

Where are we going with this one? I don't know. Christmas. Christ. Shannon wants to talk about Christmas. Okay.

Shannon

Well, I actually kind of liked this other topic we were getting.

Dylan

Well, you gotta insert yourself. That's how this works. You have to just take over. Let's Okay.

Brad

Be curious, not judgmental. I'm gonna be judgmental right now. What is your favorite Christmas tradition with your new wife?

Shannon

What do you want? What do you want it to be? What do you want it to be? Because you gotta say it out loud and then it'll like what you think about, you bring about. What do you want it to be?

Brad

Materialize it.

SPEAKER_06

That's that's that's wait. That's between me and the universe.

Shannon

Maybe it's a feeling.

Brad

Um are you a are you a Christmas morning or a Christmas night? Christmas morning. Christmas morning. Oh wait, what do you mean? Finish the question.

Dylan

Yeah, yeah, what is that? I answered prematurely.

Brad

I mean, it's your tradition. I what do you want it to be like?

Dylan

You got you guys There are phases of Christmas Day for me. So I like them all, but they all have their own nostalgic feeling. I like the buildup.

Brad

But I'm asking, like, what kind of tradition would you create?

Shannon

Yeah, this is your future self, Dylan. This is the like you guys Christmas.

Brad

You guys like wake up early. Jesus. You put the coffee on, you guys turn on die cards. I love how he says and you guys are gonna slap this shit on me.

Shannon

Yes.

Dylan

Oh, fuck. Yeah, you wanted this.

Shannon

Let's just start with something similar.

Dylan

I just want more content.

Shannon

You wake up on Christmas morning. What's the first thing that tells you it's gonna be an amazing Christmas morning with your new wife?

Dylan

I don't know.

Brad

Put the baby oil away. Put the baby oil away.

Shannon

Stop.

Brad

You said wake up in the morning. It's hard not to. Wake up in the morning, feeling like beating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Dylan

Um I don't I don't know. I don't I don't do kids, no kids? Like, how are we doing this?

Shannon

Uh well, I mean Do you want to do your first let's say your first Christmas together as husband and wife? What one little thing that would make it just slightly magical.

Brad

And you guys got married on Christmas Eve.

Shannon

No, no, no, we're not doing that.

Dylan

That'd be terrible. Oh.

Shannon

Yeah.

Dylan

Really? I don't like when people get married on holidays. That's a hot take.

Shannon

Hot take. Where's I can't read hot takes.

Dylan

Yeah, guess what another hot take is? Stop interrupting. Every day is a holiday.

Shannon

What? Let's say you got married at an ideal time and the first Christmas is rolled around.

Dylan

I don't want to play this game right now.

Shannon

Are you gonna have coffee? Are you gonna make breakfast?

Dylan

I don't like plans.

Shannon

What would you eat for breakfast on Christmas?

Dylan

Spontaneity of egg. Jesus, alright? What would you do? You guys buy each other presents? Yeah, yes.

Shannon

So we'll go back to tradition. So, like, we've traditionally had we make egg gravy on Christmas morning. So, like Shannon makes egg gravy. I made egg gravy, but that was something that was.

Dylan

Not what New Windsor were they from? Where was New Windsor?

Shannon

Alpha.

Dylan

I don't know. New Orleans. I don't remember. New Guinea. Which is a Beastwick. It's in the Monmouth area, but they made egg gravy all the time. You know them.

Shannon

Alito, oh I know them.

Dylan

I'm not gonna tell them.

Shannon

Oh, I'm not gonna say them out loud. Okay. Oh, okay. Yeah. Well.

Dylan

Yeah, they're big egg gravy people. Way. Nope. Completely different family. Never mind. I'm getting confused.

Shannon

Anyways. Well, I think it is. I mean, I've known a few people out there that have made it. So yeah.

Brad

My mom asked what I'm saying. Can you explain what egg gravy is?

Shannon

Okay, so egg gravy is essentially like a scramble, like you're making scrambled eggs, but basically you add more milk than eggs, so it's more milk heavy. And then like some people like to make a thickener and then add it. I just like a roux?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. You use it like a roux?

Shannon

Yeah, I don't do a roux. Okay. But most I think my mom did do a roux, but I'm just like, screw it. I toss the flour.

Dylan

Fat to flour people.

Shannon

I just toss in the flour. King Arthur's flour, and I just toss it in there. Does it get lumpy? Oh, and butter. So then you butter some toast, you toast some toast, put some butter on it. Salt and pepper is a must. And then you just pour the egg gravy on top. It's good.

Dylan

Sounds awesome.

Shannon

Next time you podcast here, I'll make egg gravy for you.

Dylan

She's fattening me up. Why you fatten me up? At night?

Shannon

This feels like a Because your future wife won't care if you're fattened up or not.

Dylan

This is gonna be that episode, isn't it? I love it. So that's egg grave.

Shannon

So like that's our tradition. What food would you want to eat on Christmas morning? Brad? Grapefruit. Don't enter. Oh yeah, Brad's would be grapefruit. So I'm getting that for him next year.

Dylan

That's that's a solid choice. But that's a tradition. What?

Brad

With a marchino cherry in the middle. I know.

Dylan

Are we doing a tiki theme? Are we doing a tiki theme? We should do a tiki.

Brad

I'm just saying that's the tradition.

Dylan

Oh, good thing nobody heard that. Yeah, uh only on the feedback on your guys' microphones. Close those noise gates, guys. I don't know what that means. So this is awkward now.

Shannon

Great, but okay, so Brad said grapefruit. And I just all I'm asking for is food, Dylan. This is a soft launch.

Brad

Soft launch. No food. I go, I like to make it.

Shannon

Would you stop interrupting him? I want to hear what his food is.

Brad

Lingerie and eggnog. That's a good that's a good one.

Shannon

No, now see you just interrupted his thought, and now I'm not gonna hear about it.

Marriage Odds, Humor, And Podcast Bits

Dylan

No, I I like to uh I make a there's two variations of it. Um I make a glazed donut or a mini cinnamon roll um like bread pudding almost. So you make a custard and then you dry, like you turn your oven on, and you cut the mini cinnamon rolls into like quarters, or like the glazed donuts into quarters, and then you dry them out a little bit. You want them a little bit crustier, a little bit dry because it absorbs better. Throw it in a cast iron pot, cover it with the custard, and then throw it in the oven, and that is just diabetes in a cast iron pan. That's super, super tasty in the morning.

Shannon

But it's Christmas, so it's not like you make it every morning.

Dylan

Yeah, I mean, diabetes is a Christmas story. I think once was a complete accident. We didn't know.

Shannon

Well, your future wife is listening to this and she's looking forward to the custard and cinnamon rolls.

Dylan

That's fun. That was actually one of my favorite Christmas memories, actually.

Shannon

Yeah. See?

Dylan

Diabetes? Yeah, the diabetes. I didn't have anything to do in the morning. And so I was a quick start. I'm like, what can I make? And I was like, Oh, I got glazed donuts, and I can make a custard, and I was like, Oh, I could do this.

Shannon

What's in a custard?

Dylan

Last dance. It is egg and milk and egg milk sugar. Ice cream. It's ba yeah, it's basically an egg to milk and sugar. Is there any there's no butter in there's no fat I so the fat is a lie.

Shannon

Oh, it's sugar. Never mind.

Dylan

It was sugar that you I think that's it. I don't think I'm missing it.

Shannon

You did it, Dylan. You answered a question about this one little thing.

Dylan

I don't know if that's gonna be my new tradition.

Shannon

I don't know, it doesn't have to be your new tradition. It's gonna be someday's tradition.

Brad

Christmas trees, right side up or upside down?

Dylan

Matt, my buddy Matt used to have his tree hanging from his ceiling upside down. Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah. Kept it up all year round. Oh, really? He's a wacky dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Shannon

I mean does he decorate it in different holidays? Or just uh probably probably hard to think maybe.

Brad

I'm cool with it.

Shannon

I got a new Christmas sweater yesterday and no one even noticed me wearing it. So maybe they won't notice the trees either. I don't know.

Brad

People aren't allowed in the house on July 4th, anyways. Oh.

Shannon

Yeah, they are shut up. I mean I'm not sure. People come in the house all the time. I mean, they're allowed in, nobody comes.

Dylan

I mean, they go in to use a bathroom and do you think there's a video of guys just getting out of control over in London, like that are from the US, like just purposely went over to celebrate Fourth of July over in London? Well, now that you say that, yes. I I feel like we should go to London to celebrate the Fourth of July.

Brad

I don't. I don't.

Dylan

Why?

Brad

Uh I feel like we should go to over there and protest the Fourth of July. Like to Christmas today, I was in Vit. Like an ex-boyfriend that wants them back so bad.

Dylan

I was in Vietnam for their US independence day when we were the occupation ended. Um, I'm not gonna lie, I felt a little unsafe. That was the only time I felt unsafe. And it's not because anyone was mean or out of control, but it was a crazy mob, and it was a peaceful mob, but they were getting absolutely wrecked alcohol-wise, and there's just a ton of people, and I was like, maybe we go to like the less congested areas of town. Yeah, you guys got any like, I don't know, foxholes around here?

Brad

Yes, that's exactly what I was gonna ask for. You guys got like tunnel systems around here.

Shannon

So, what other traditions, Brad?

Brad

Ooh, well, uh, when you get married, you are No, it doesn't have to be let's let's derail this.

Shannon

No, nobody will fucking hit that record button so fast. This is a dead horse, right?

Brad

Listen, it's getting Linda Linda Linda, Linda, Linda. Listen, when you get married, you merge traditions. And most of them you will hate.

Shannon

That's that's a lie, Brad. Shut up.

Brad

Pretty pretty pretty true. I mean, some of them can be uh seemingly mundane things that have real consequences on your psyche. Like, are the presents wrapped or unwrapped?

Dylan

I don't like opening presents before Christmas.

Shannon

Like, whoa!

Dylan

Christmas Eve people freak me out.

Shannon

You would be big mad at me and Brad that in our early years.

Dylan

We did really good this year.

Shannon

This year we did good, but in future years we were opening like within the first week or two of December. Oh no, it was like whenever I bought it. We were terrible.

Brad

I was like, you know, I know what I got to do. And she's like, yeah. And I was like, here you go.

Shannon

One year we both bought ourselves, oh not ourselves, we bought each other boxing gloves. And I don't think we planned on it.

Brad

No, we didn't, but she got a concussion.

Shannon

That's not true. That's one of my favorite crazy.

SPEAKER_04

Was it like the the bob?

Shannon

What was it the no, they're real boxing gloves.

SPEAKER_04

Why did you guys buy each other real boxing gloves?

Shannon

I think I was going to kickboxing or something at the time.

SPEAKER_04

They came with headgear.

Shannon

No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they did.

Shannon

We still have them downstairs. We got pink and blue.

Dylan

This was a little bit of a little bit of a little headgear later. Once this goes up, it can be used in a court of law. I'm just letting you both know.

Shannon

I'm just saying.

Dylan

There's no video, only pictures.

Shannon

We did we did um then entertain ourselves because this was back in the day before like phones could take. I think we used cameras, maybe I don't remember.

Brad

Yeah, that's what takes pictures.

Shannon

Uh um, I'm just amazed that we set it up the way we did because we took like action shots and like pretended like we were like punching each other and all that, and like just very it was very cinemat symptom sentimental. Symptomatic that that one of our cinemantic.

Brad

Yeah, keep going.

Shannon

That's something like that. I don't even like you. We need us. I don't even like Brad. So, anyways, you don't you're not gonna give gifts early. Are you gonna even give it a gift? Give a gift?

Brad

I don't know. I've decided but but when you opened presents on like Christmas morning as a kid, did you open presents? Or or did you walk out to like just Did Santa bring us gifts wrapped or unwrapped?

Dylan

Wrapped. There might have been like a like I can like what were the wooden, like uh where are the wooden horses? So yeah, um the ones that like snap together.

Shannon

Thomas the Trink?

Dylan

Yeah, kind of like yeah, yeah. So like stuff like Oh no, no, I know what you're talking about. Like some of the some of the stuff that was like pre that needed to be pre-built, my dad oh shit, sorry, Santa would pre-build and it would be out, but for the most part, everything was wrapped. But if there was like a big gift that they wanted to present, they'd have it just chilling out. Or they'd have it like under a blanket and big reveal.

Shannon

Big reveal.

Dylan

Yeah. My parents were good though. They would bring us down and then we would have breakfast. Like it was shut the doors to the room with the tree, and they'd be like, We're gonna we're gonna sit down and have a family meal.

Shannon

Yeah, we'd sit down and before you went to that.

SideQuests, Jingles, And Banter

Dylan

Before we went to the tree. Yeah. Talk to the trauma about that. Oh, that's no, I tricky. I I enjoy it, and to this day, we still like to have something before we before you do that.

Shannon

Yeah.

Dylan

We do that a little bit.

Shannon

I did I do like the idea of we have a curtain.

Brad

Yeah, there's leftover. It's like the what would you call that? Tinsel.

Shannon

The Christmas curtain. Um, it's like a a hooker sheet? No, it's like uh kind of.

Brad

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Kind of, yeah.

Shannon

It's like a tinsel.

Brad

It's not solid, it's stringy. Yeah. And it's like, yeah, you can't. Everybody's gotta be up, everybody's gotta have their coffee.

Shannon

We're like, at least let us get the coffee, you know. Put the the fire on the Netflix uh TV. Yeah.

Dylan

Put the fire on. It was uh, yeah, do breakfast and then like get our hot chocolate and then take our hot chocolate into the room.

Shannon

Syracuse don't eat breakfast, so yeah.

Dylan

I'm yeah, I don't know.

Shannon

But we do get coffee, so we did do that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, I find it interesting.

Dylan

This one's got the vodka, honey.

SPEAKER_06

No, no, no? No vodka in your coffee.

Shannon

Yeah, I think Phoenix ate the eggnog that Dylan made.

SPEAKER_06

Oh.

Shannon

Just kidding. No, he didn't. No, it didn't. Okay. I almost made the joke of Corbin, but that would not be a funny change. That would be doubly bad.

Dylan

That'd be doubly.

Shannon

That would be terrible.

Dylan

Eggnog's good.

Shannon

It is Brad's been thoroughly enjoying your eggnog.

Brad

Yeah, I got it. I I wasn't fully expecting that. It honestly gets better with age.

Shannon

It gets better the more you I don't know how much that'll age because Brad seems to be going down.

Brad

That's why I told you.

Dylan

How much you got left? How much did I give you?

Brad

And how much you got left? You had three bottles, and I'm I I'm through almost two. I got a little bit left of one. Think. Oh fuck. I should have poured a little bit. I would have drank that for this.

Shannon

There's a little there's an open bottle.

Brad

No, I can't leave.

Shannon

No, no. No, we're not gonna do it. We're locked in. I'm locked in until Wednesday.

Brad

So but I find it funny because as we've gotten older and we have kids, and your parents become grandparents and you become parents, and blue is old. Old people die. That's what they do. And every everybody's ideas of the their Christmas traditions kind of change.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

Brad

So as we're planning for like my mom's Christmas, I have in mind what you did what what we did as a family when I was a kid.

Shannon

At your house.

Brad

At my house. And I think sometimes the parents have in mind more like what everybody did at the grandparents' house, because that's kind of how like our situation happened because everybody's reasonably close. And it's almost like trying to replicate that instead of just you know sticking with what worked well in as I was growing up.

Shannon

The messaging, it's somebody is calling Corbin on his messenger. Yeah.

Brad

Thanks a lot.

Shannon

Kids, they do that.

Brad

They're the worst.

Shannon

And I think that's hard for you because your guys is, you know, sometimes a grandma hosted, or then it went to a different house to host, whereas mine was always hosted by the same person for a certain time.

Brad

And well, it's hard because you go through generational change. This person hosts, and everybody shows up, and then everybody's families grow and things change.

Dylan

It's things change, Mox. What you're saying is like the integration of families and the expectations and letting go of some of your old traditions because you have to integrate new traditions. And um, so I remember growing up, Christmas Eve was always my mom's grand my my mom's parents and the her family. She's one of seven, ton of cousins, and that would just be absolutely cram full of people. And it was awesome. Yeah, I grew up I had my I'm extremely close to my cousins on that side, and we all I mean, I've got cousins that are younger than me, and I've got cousins all the way up to their sixties, maybe now. My mom's the second youngest out of seven, so she has a lot of older sisters and brothers, or one older brother, older sisters. Um, but that was always like a crazy wild fun night, and then come home, do Christmas in the morning, and then my dad's parents lived in Dubuque, and then we would drive to Dubuque, and then we'd come back at some point, yeah. Which I absolutely hated.

Shannon

Yeah.

Dylan

Not a reflection of my grandparents or my family in Dubuque. But you want to be home with all your new presents. You want to be home with your presents, and so that's something that I have said is that my home will be open to my family. Yeah, but I'm not going to uproot my kids on Christmas if I have kids. I just I'm like, It's hard. You guys are more than welcome to come, but the kids are gonna be able to do that.

Brad

Some people have problems with that.

Dylan

I understand that. And I understand.

Shannon

We've done it once or twice.

Pivot To Christmas Traditions

Dylan

But I just but it is it's one of those where you I felt like I had some of the magic of Christmas ripped away at some of those points. And I get it. You want to see your family, it's holidays. My parents want to see their parents. Like, I can't imagine not seeing my parents around Christmas time. Um, but that's hard. The other integration story I have is my cousin is dating a girl, and I just heard this from my mom the other day. I was laughing, and she's like, Yeah, so there's one family Christmas for Grant because he's got, you know, his parents are my mom's my mom's brother and her his wife are still together, and you know, they've got the single family Christmas. The girl he's dating, like divorced parents, divorced grandparents, but she's got like seven or eight family Christmases. And one of her family Christmases, and it wasn't even like it wasn't like one of the main family Christmases, happened to fall on my cousin's family, but the one family Christmas. And she was mad that she wasn't gonna be able to get to go to her family Christmas. He's like, You have like seven I'm sorry, but you have like seven or eight. I have one.

Shannon

I'm glad you went with seven or eight instead of six.

Dylan

Oh no, no, no, no, no.

Shannon

And I was just laughing, and I was like, Yeah, there's uh at least five or six I mean five, six quet like Christmases within like sometimes two days. But that was way back. Well, that was when there was some different things going on. So it was like one, two, three, four, five. I think we did five. Because like sometimes when there's bigger things going on, then you're like, well, we're just gonna do it with the immediate family. So then it's like you go to your big one on Christmas Eve, but then you still gotta do something with just like your parents or your parents.

Brad

I like Christmases where shit goes sideways, you know, like somebody's pregnant that's not supposed to be pregnant.

Dylan

Does that happen that happen often?

Brad

Not often.

Dylan

No. No. Like when what's the most off-the-rails Christmas that you've had?

Brad

Oh, I mean, I mean, it probably didn't involve me personally.

Shannon

I mean, I can't think of off the wall Christmas.

Dylan

They got pregnant or Christmas when they weren't. Who's the Virgin Mary?

Brad

No, no, no, no, no, no, Immaculate Conception. There might have been a story.

Shannon

Brad proposed to me before Christmas, so that was an exciting Christmas.

Brad

Yeah, because I was not gonna do that shit on Christmas.

Dylan

Dude, it did the fucking social pressure that you get from people, especially when you start, you know, you've been with someone for a period of time, or as you're getting older, it's just like it's not a Christmas present.

SPEAKER_01

We knew Brad couldn't make it to Christmas because we gave our Christmas presents.

Brad

I mean, if you're getting anything for Christmas, it's a dick hello.

Shannon

That's not true.

Brad

It wasn't out yet.

Dylan

Oh. Mm-mm. You were early on that one. Was I? Oh, yeah. But I also know someone else that just got engaged and that was very exciting.

Shannon

December 12th.

Dylan

It's like it's not too close to Christmas.

Brad

Close enough.

Shannon

Oh shit, maybe you're no.

Brad

Yeah, it was. We got married in 06. Right?

Shannon

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was no.

Brad

No.

Shannon

That can't be right. It was the year.

Brad

Yeah, that's right. It was the year of the turtle.

Dylan

Yeah.

unknown

Right.

Brad

It was 06, right? 2006.

Shannon

I don't know. This is we've been married 19 years?

SPEAKER_06

I don't know, man. I don't know.

Shannon

You were a baby. I was still in the womb when we got married. Um practice.

SPEAKER_07

Uh now wait a second.

Shannon

Okay, wait. Okay. Oh, eight seven?

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

Shannon

Got married in 06. Yep. Yeah, you proposed to me in 05. So it was like we got married, we got engaged in 05, but we got married in September. I mean, it was not a full year.

Brad

I mean, it wasn't a five-year engagement.

Shannon

It was not a five-year engagement. It was fine. It was just fine, Dylan.

Brad

Yeah, okay. Whatever you guys say. Whatever you guys say. Talking about cocaine, daddy.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's a good one. Oh, nope. No. You had you did have to survive. I did have to survive though.

SPEAKER_07

My favorite type of weed was uh cocaine.

Shannon

Um, let me see here.

SPEAKER_07

Very Christmassy. It's snowing.

Shannon

So one thing that always I'll tell you a Christmas tradition. This was the Christmas magic in my house growing up.

Brad

Oh, yes, I know.

Shannon

We would wake up Christmas morning very early. It was still dark out because we had to go to another family Christmas. But we would wake up to the bells. And I'm talking sleigh bells from Santa Slay. And it was the real deal. And I would hear a ho ho ho, Merry Christmas. And it was on the roof. I don't know where it was. No, because it was it's like the door was opened and like you could hear, I mean, and these were like real loud sleigh bells.

SPEAKER_06

Who did it? Uh my grandpa. Santa. Oh nice.

Shannon

My grandpa. But it was bizarre because you were just like, I mean, like you could it just sounded so real, and we were always like, our dog didn't bark. Or like, it just was it sounded so I don't know if you did you ever get to hear it, Brad, or no?

Brad

The ho ho ho?

Shannon

Just the bells, the well, your mom has bells. Did he ever do it around you though?

Brad

But it was uh no, I was never a kid in your house.

Shannon

Wild because no, I didn't know if he did it whenever at one of our Christmas.

Brad

I mean, how old were you guys when you got engaged? Not kid age, yeah.

Shannon

But I didn't know if he was doing it at all, Brad. That's the question.

Brad

Wait, let me do the math. Shut up. 24. You're a child. Was I? No.

Shannon

But he I didn't know if he still did it for fun around you. That's what I was saying.

Brad

Hold on. Hold on. I gotta do math real quick.

Shannon

Please, Brad. Please, by all means, pause, please.

Brad

Phoenix.

Dylan

How many fucking years was I in college? Phoenix.

Shannon

Too many. You did five. I did four.

Dylan

Phoenix is closer to the age you got married than you are.

Shannon

Yeah. It's weird, isn't it?

Dylan

Oh, wait. I'm at 23.

Shannon

My friends and I, I was technically 23. We're like, when we were 15 or 16, we're like, can you believe in 15 more years we're gonna be 30? Because we would talk on the landline, we'd be talking, and it'd be like, oh my God, in 15 more years, we're gonna be 30. And that seemed so far off as a 15-year-old.

Dylan

It's funny you say that. I was having a conversation with someone yesterday about this, and I made a lot of decisions about the future of my life when I was between the ages of 18 and 22, based on being 30 or early 30s, in the sense of I'm not gonna go down that path because if I go down that path in life, I won't get out or I won't do things until I'm post-30, and that's just uh my life's over. Like at that point, like my best years are over. And you're like felt like a little time. I wish I could go back. And that's like if I had the time machine, the one thing I would do is go back and just say, listen, you gotta 34, you're just starting to figure this thing out. You're gonna have plenty of time. Like, go do the things you want to go do, take you know, invest in what you want to go invest in, whether climb yeah, but that's exactly it. There was so much, there was so many things. I mean, there were so many things that I wish I would have done, but I was like, oh, I need to start my career right now. I need to do this, I need to do that. It's like, yeah, sure. I'll then need to do that. Starting a great starting career is important, you know, you need to have some financial responsibility, but yeah, you have time to figure it out.

Shannon

You don't have time to take five years before you get married if you know it's the one.

Brad

Jesus Christ. Well, I mean, there's that. There's that too.

Shannon

You know, you don't want to send five years.

Dylan

I I just put an arbitrary number on it.

Shannon

It's not like I have any it's not like I'm five seems like a big number though.

Dylan

Just here.

Shannon

Look at Kona doesn't even like it. She is.

Food Rituals: Egg Gravy And Custard Bakes

Brad

When you when you find the one that you want to spend the rest of your life forever with, you want the rest of your life to start right now. I need to go fucking throw up.

SPEAKER_03

What's that from?

Brad

I hope that in the next in our next lifetime. I hope that in our next lifetime I find you sooner so that I can love you longer.

Shannon

Is that the notebook, Brad?

Brad

Is it? I don't know.

Shannon

It probably is. I think it is the notebook.

Dylan

We should get some notebook. If I'm a bird, you're a bird. I think we could.

Shannon

Guess what movie Brad and I watched on our very first quote unquote date together. And don't say it out loud.

Brad

And that we just watched the other night. And we did a little bit of it.

Shannon

No, it's not the notebook, no.

Brad

Well, take another guess.

Shannon

Come on, guess.

Brad

Not really rom com. Yeah, kind of rom com. How to lose a guy. Nope.

Shannon

No. No. That was probably before that.

unknown

I don't. Oh fuck.

Brad

Um serendipity. Do it. Do it.

Shannon

Do it.

Brad

Go down the road.

Shannon

I hate that movie.

Dylan

Whoa. I did not expect that one. Yes, we've talked about this. John. John Cusack. John Cusack.

Shannon

That is the dumbest movie I think I've ever wasted my time watching. Oh my god. Beautiful scene. Get the glove and go on with life.

Brad

All the lights? You can't just go on with life. She's a beautiful woman.

Shannon

I don't care. It was stupid.

Brad

She's English.

Shannon

Thank God we didn't watch that on our first date, or we might not have got married. This would have never happened.

Dylan

Yikes. I'm upset, right? Okay. Okay, so just tell me the movie.

Brad

Well, can I give you the actress? Sure. Because I don't know the actor. Oh, I know one of them, maybe. Reese Witherspoon.

Dylan

Sweet Alm Alabama.

Brad

Yes. God, if you were going to say legally blonde, I was going to punch you.

Dylan

Patrick Dempsey. Yeah. And then I forget.

Shannon

I can't think the one guy that is her husband. Yeah, that's what we watched. Brad made a tombstone and we watched that one.

SPEAKER_03

We kind of watched. So I can kiss you anytime I want.

Shannon

Uh we uh Brad actually got me a sign that said that in our bedroom. And I watched the tail end of that one. I'm like, oh, I just watched that part of the movie. It's like what part?

Brad

And I'm like, I said the part where she's talking to the dead dog.

Shannon

I was like, no, when they're on the beach and it's raining. I just watched the best part.

Brad

And I was like, the part where she's talking to the dog in the cemetery. That was the only part I cried at.

Shannon

So make a tombstone pizza and watch a movie with someone and see what happens.

Brad

That's okay. That's a I feel like I figured that one out. Yeah, that's like an analogy. So not a bun in the oven.

Shannon

What? Why would you put a bun in the oven? Oh my god.

Dylan

Again, this goes back to our conversation. Like, when's it appropriate to be like so birth control?

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you brought that up during the last podcast I was done.

Dylan

Yeah, I know. Do you not remember? Nope. And apparently I was the one drinking shit.

Shannon

No, I remember. I just remember thinking I was coming down to a Christmas traditions podcast.

Dylan

Well, here we are.

Shannon

We're 35 minutes into a fucking And I what did I say about the birth control? Just be open about it. You can openly communicate about that, then you should be able to openly communicate about other things.

Brad

That's true. Like wrapping presents or not. Yeah.

Shannon

Should I wrap this gift or not?

Brad

Okay.

Shannon

I don't know if it comes with insurance or not. Is there a warranty on it?

Brad

You want to see it as soon as you go through the curtain or you want to open something up? Jesus Christ. Talking about Christmas. Talk about practice.

Dylan

We're talking about practice.

SPEAKER_03

We're talking about practice.

Dylan

Talk about practice and trying to survive this goddamn podcast.

Shannon

You're doing good, Dylan. You're doing real good. This is good.

Brad

Yeah. I'm trying to think what I to your point with the I don't know what the house was like on your mom's side with all the people, but we had we were just discussing this the other night at my grandma's because she had, I mean, a house this size-ish, maybe.

Shannon

But she had you guys could the kids could go to the basement.

Brad

Yeah, we could go to the basement here too.

Shannon

Yeah.

Brad

I don't even know if like this room would really count.

Shannon

Well, I think you'd probably be setting up a table in here if it was I'm just I'm just comparing size-wise.

Brad

Yeah. And then fitting 40 people in this house, you know. Which you which you can do.

Shannon

You can do. And it worked out just fine.

Brad

It's packed and it also is awesome.

Dylan

It's awesome. I enjoy it until the kids are running around and spell shit everywhere, which is still part of the fun.

Shannon

That's what the basement's for.

Dylan

Yeah. So I've been to a couple different families, you know, significant others, Christmases through the years. And it's always fun, kind of I shouldn't say it's fun. It's fun for me. Fun integrating into that life. Because, you know, you were in the past episode, people probably don't watch sequential order, so it's fine. But we're talking about, you know, the you versus the real you versus the toned-down version of you. And um, with a severe case of ADHD, I go into these people's homes and they probably think I'm just like not very social and into them, like introverted almost. And it's not because I'm like scared or afraid, but I'm in a new environment and I'm taking it all in. My brain just starts analyzing everything. And then like I'm looking at a family photo, I'm wondering about the dynamics. Then I'm like, who's been with who and how and long, and what stories do you have? And then I just start playing this game in my head, and then somehow I'll start inventing something. I'll be like, Oh, I think there's a better method to do that over there. And so I just get like super wound up that way, and then everyone's like your brain starts going, my Dylan doesn't talk, and then inevitably my significant other would always be like, Oh, yeah, no, that no, you don't want to see him talk because when he does, he just doesn't stop.

SPEAKER_06

And I was like, Yeah, that's yeah, eventually you'll see me just.

Shannon

What'd you do when you came to my family's?

Dylan

Is this how this podcast got started? Yeah, yeah, I think so.

Shannon

Well, I think I don't know if you pitched it or if I pitched it.

Brad

I think you pitched it. Dude, I think I wore a fucking cowboy hat to your first Christmas.

Shannon

No, you were always really big on like cutting your hair into a mohawk, which is kind of funny that Phoenix came up with a mohawk a little bit ago, but you would always like cut your hair or like do something.

Brad

That was one time mohawk. That was that was after we were married.

Shannon

Right before Christmas.

Brad

That was after we were married.

Shannon

So what'd you feel about it before then?

Brad

I wore I wore a cowboy hat.

Shannon

No, you didn't.

Brad

Yeah, I did.

Shannon

Never do I remember you wearing a cowboy hat.

Brad

100%. There's a picture of us. I remember the Christmas. Where might have been 05.

Shannon

Magic, madness, heaven, sin. Saw you then and I thought. Oh, yeah. Do you or a cowboy hat at the time?

Brad

We'll find a picture. All right, let's get the goddamn picture. Jesus.

Shannon

Oh five.

Brad

I remember on my way to your mom's house.

Shannon

Okay.

Brad

Following a Cadillac on Route 67 that was driving through Viola in the other lane.

Shannon

Why do you think I think we called that in?

Brad

We did. Blew through the stop sign, kept it going.

Dylan

I've got a call in before.

Shannon

Oh, I did. But you were wearing a cowboy hat then? Oh, were we living? No, we weren't living.

Dylan

Was it a straw hat? Do you do that? Was it a straw hat? Maybe it was 04. It might have been 04.

SPEAKER_04

Was it beaver?

Shannon

I remember the Cadillac. You know what I did? I don't remember a cowboy hat. I remember the car going in the wrong lane, but I don't remember the card.

Dylan

What was the fabric? Laptop.

Shannon

I don't remember because he didn't wear it, Dylan. That's the point.

Dylan

Don't make me do this. I feel like Brad. Have you seen? Did you guys ever watch 30 Rock? No.

Shannon

Maybe bit super.

Dylan

So Kevin was like one of the NBC pages. He was like this very lovable, like all over the place type of guy. And they did an episode from Kevin's perspective one time. And it was a Muppet musical. And it was like, how what's inside Kevin? I sometimes wonder if Brad lives in this musical. And it's just like how he sees the world. And I'm like, no, yeah, Brad just sees Muppets and cowboy hats. I see things in slow motion.

Shannon

Do we have a picture of you in the said cowboy hat?

Brad

Because I don't remember the You have a picture of me in that cowboy hat.

Shannon

I'm sure I do.

Brad

Whoa.

Shannon

Yeah, that was from college.

Dylan

I thought she said I thought she said she doesn't have a space in this house.

Shannon

But was that in I don't have space in this house that is just solely mine.

Brad

So yeah, like two drawers in the bathroom.

Shannon

You have a garage, you have you have the closet. This space.

Brad

This space.

Shannon

I tried to make this my space at work.

Brad

This is how you do with this space. How would you do that?

Shannon

Nothing, but it's this is where I work out in the mornings. So I kind of like it to be a little bit clutter-free. And sometimes the garage storage spills out to this area.

Dylan

Oh, I would have never guessed that.

Shannon

That becomes a real problem.

Dylan

Do you ever notice that he does the wounded puppy thing where he just won't look they know they're in trouble?

SPEAKER_01

That's probably why we're still married. He just keeps giving the wounded puppy look.

Dylan

They know they're in trouble, and so they just look away, and then you're like, look at me, look at me. And they're like, I'm not gonna look. I'm not gonna look. If I don't look, I can't get in trouble. I don't even know what we're talking about right now.

Shannon

Bad dog.

Dylan

Oh, I can't use their names because I know they'll come running, but I'm just like laughing.

Shannon

And they're very calm right now. Look at it. They're being a good boy and a good girl.

Brad

I can't see you.

Wrapping Presents And Timing Debates

Shannon

Oh they know. It was funny because who was I was I talking to you? We were in bed the other night, and of course, Kilo had somehow managed his way up there. And I'm like, it's funny because he knows when I'm talking to him, because he'll start patting his tail. I'll be like, oh, what do you think we should do later? Do you think that we should go to bed? Should we go? And like I'll just be talking to him, and it's just like me. You just hear the smack. And then I'll say something to Brad, like, I don't know, should we watch this show? Should we watch that show? And doesn't even pay attention. That's true. The dog. The dog knows when I'm talking to him. That's what I'm saying.

Dylan

Also true. Also he's the goodest boy. Yeah. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. You did it. Oh.

Shannon

Shocked me.

Dylan

We get his licks on. Get his license on get his license on the mic.

Brad

No, you don't like that. Lay down.

SPEAKER_01

Lay down. Lay back down.

Brad

He has a fun Christmas tradition. What's his habit of ripping the the stockings that are his Ankonas out of wherever they are.

Dylan

My stepmom, uh her dogs all open their presents. They've for whatever reason she's trained them to open their we didn't train them and they We love our dogs, but we never get them gifts.

Shannon

Um And you know what? Well, actually, I to be fair, we got him a ball. Lay down.

Brad

But every day is Christmas for them. That's how I feel.

Shannon

But Brad's mom and dad got them stockings. You guys rescued them.

Brad

They've got good lives now. Every day's Christmas.

Shannon

Lay back down. I'm done talking to you right now.

Brad

I think.

Shannon

I think he does.

Brad

We got our first dog on Christmas Eve.

Shannon

Well, that's a good tradition.

Brad

And we try to follow it up every year.

Shannon

I don't think we should perpetuate.

Dylan

I don't think we should perpetuate this tradition. I think two max.

Shannon

Oh no, I agree with you. But I'm here to tell you. I disagree. I'm here to tell you, Dylan.

Dylan

We've talked about it. Okay, dogs aren't like kids.

Shannon

Oh, I think we did talk about this on the last slide.

Brad

Dogs are not like kids.

Shannon

But we got two good ones, and it can be expensive. Stop it. Would you lay down? They don't listen, but he's got foul breath right now, and I don't know.

Brad

He's probably just digging in the trash.

Shannon

You're the bestest boy.

Dylan

Don't, don't, don't do that. It sounds awful. I did.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not sure.

Dylan

When I'm editing when I'm editing, when I'm editing this and you do stuff away from the mic, it makes me so mad because this the editing software is like, we don't like this section at all. It's bad audio. And I'm like, no, it's funny because he's supposed to be doing it. Yeah.

Shannon

I was telling Dylan earlier, like, you know, drunk shopping is fun, but one of my favorite memories include uh drinking a margarita and going shopping for dogs. But I was not drinking when we got it's not shopping, it's choosing. It's true. That's not shopping.

Dylan

It seems borderline irresponsible.

Shannon

But you guys don't really, don't really do that, guys. I'm sorry, do they look irresponsible? Don't really do that, guys. That was just a funny ha ha. We've only done it twice and we've got two keepers.

Brad

Do it as long as you keep them. I was gonna say you guys.

Shannon

But we've also, to be fair, when we don't adopt a dog, we have put down money towards another dog. So like this is something fun you could do. Go have some fun.

Dylan

Pay for it, right? Yeah.

Shannon

And then you pick out if I could get one, this is the one, or this is the one I want to be adopted. And then it's a surprise to the person that goes and adopts that dog.

Brad

So pay for it and promote it.

Shannon

Yeah. So, but you don't say that you put that money down.

Dylan

So it's kind of like Do you guys have a shelter you guys go to?

Shannon

QC Pause.

Dylan

Is it a kill shelter or no?

Shannon

No, it's a no-kill shelter, but it's right behind right behind the airport in Moline. Um I think it might be considered Rock Island County, but it's QCpaws.org. Follow them on Facebook, check out the website.

Dylan

Yeah, they seem to do a really good job. I know they're big on our social media. Not like ours, but and our community social media.

Shannon

I mean, uh and we've gotten all of our animals from there.

Brad

And if we're being honest, like the uh and there there's some different variances in it, but when you say like no-kill shelter, they they have had they just made a post the other day. Their longest resident is well over two years now for a dog. Um so they do it's no kill in that sense, but there's also dogs that are either probably found or surrendered that are they they they won't just adopt out any single animal that comes in there.

Dylan

No, but they're they're they vet, they have an aggressive vetting process. It's not like you can just walk in and get it. Like they're gonna make sure you're a match. No, but also like if but there are certain animals you should point saying like this isn't and so the like they they're a no-kill shelter, but those dogs may go elsewhere.

Shannon

Yeah, you know, and like if you have dogs already, like we have put a dog on hold before, and then they you have to do a meet if you have your own if you have dogs already, you have to do a meet and greet. And so Kilo, of course, Kilo passed the test um because we got Kona. And we actually, I was just looking through my one line a day journal. And um, what am I hanging up on here?

Dylan

It's just her. Um come over here.

Shannon

But then a few years ago, we at this same time of year, we have a real tendency of going back to the shelter. Uh, had put another dog, Polo, on hold. That was his name.

Dylan

And someone can we do a puppy podcast where we just have a bunch of puppies. Oh my god.

Shannon

Have you seen the reels where it's like dogs talking on podcasts and they have like, you know, it's like AI, so they have like that, and they're on the mic and they're like, and they talk like they're real people. Those are my favorite.

Brad

Well, do I have something for you? Oh no, please don't. No, I just sent it to her. Oh, okay.

Shannon

Oh, is it a dog? Is it a dog? Oh, it's anyways, but I mean if you really want to, you know, if you can't adopt a dog, but you want to have some fun looking and promoting, go pick one out, go up to the front desk, say, I want to put money towards this dog for adoption. So then when somebody comes in and they go to adopt, like that money is it, it's just like a good fun surprise for them.

Brad

Yeah, and I like to leave a note that's like, you owe me this. Have a Merry Christmas. Don't fuck this dog's life up. Oh no, he doesn't do that.

Shannon

No, that's good. But like the boys have done like a birthday party, you know, we can do a donation.

Dylan

I have the dog tracker on my phone. I will find you.

Shannon

Funny.

Dylan

I have a particular set of skills.

Shannon

Oh my gosh, when did you do that to Kilo?

Brad

Oh no.

Shannon

Was that tonight?

Brad

Yeah, he's a dog caster.

Shannon

He is.

Brad

He's a dog caster. Don't talk. See?

Shannon

Did you see how we were talking about him? His tail was going.

Brad

Yeah, he's a dog caster.

Shannon

He's like, What's up? He's a good dog caster. I know he is. What topics would you talk about?

Dylan

Balls, tails gone. Tails gone.

Shannon

Same as you, balls, walks, rides in the car.

Dylan

What do we accomplish in this episode? Absolutely nothing.

Shannon

That's a lie. That is a lie. We know that your first Christmas morning traditional breakfast is gonna be a custard.

Brad

I can't, I don't know if that's true. I just small camisole. Yeah. They'd be like, didn't we do that? I thought we established the lingerie thing.

Shannon

Was there another Christmas tradition that we did?

Dylan

I didn't know there was a lingerie. I wasn't informed about a lingerie.

Shannon

I've got to stay in a bodysuit if anybody wants to wear it. Nobody's ever worn it yet, but I bought it for a fun time.

Brad

So is next year's party.

Shannon

Brad put on my tights. So that's like a new tradition that we've kind of started is the pop-up party.

Brad

You started. Sure.

Dylan

Am I invited next year? I would like to say that I do. I asked Brad to bring the podcast gear, and he was like, don't, don't, don't.

SPEAKER_01

I was like, no, but we just loud.

Dylan

No, but I'm saying just people rotate in in.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

Dylan

Yeah, we just do two hours. And Brad and I will just stay there. And then people could just rotate in.

Brad

Think about my first section every time. There's so much what? There's so much although almost no one's in this room.

Dylan

The audio There's a few that came out this year. The audio we can cut. We can cut all the dead space out. It's fine.

Shannon

I'm gonna set up tables into the living room next year. No one's gonna go in there. I'm gonna open up the curtain. Everyone hangs out. That's the thing about parties. Everyone always hangs out in the kitchen.

Dylan

Kitchen. Always. That's what I tell people.

Shannon

No matter how big it is, how small it is.

Dylan

Don't invest in your living room, invest in your kitchen.

Brad

Obviously, you're telling me that after I invested in the living room.

Shannon

I love the living room. I've been sitting in the living room a lot lately.

Brad

We have indulged in it lately.

Shannon

It's Christmas break.

Merging Traditions Across Families

Brad

I am thankful for It's not Thanksgiving. My wife uh being, you know, obnoxious about decorating for Christmas because it It does bring a sense of joy to you. A lot. Yeah. Like I love it. I know the boys love it. And we just she kind of keeps adding to it. And I mean, if we're being honest, I'm not doing all that shit. I'm not I'm not doing it on my own. No, you're definitely not. And I I really enjoy it, and I know it's something that the boys will remember, just like I, you know, just like I remembered.

Dylan

I'm I'm sitting next to a tree. I can't just sit next to a tree in a completely different podcast you do in your house. And yeah, I've got I've got two podcast trees at the child household. I love it. I remember when will you guys take it all down? When's Christmas season over?

Brad

We thought about never.

Shannon

No, that's not true.

Brad

Uh we talked about it.

Shannon

Um I like the lights, which I did just see this thing. Like you could no, it's normally over Christmas break. Maybe Christmas or not Christmas, New Year's.

Dylan

After Christmas, yeah, after New Year's.

Brad

When's the Irish holiday? Which one?

Shannon

St. Patrick's Day? Yeah. March 17th. There we go. That's spring break for me, but well, it's coming out on a spring break. I don't know.

Brad

That's perfect.

Shannon

Sometimes we carry the trees up, no decorations in July for my birthday, because that's Christmas in July.

Brad

Huh. Do you like that? That's nice. That's all that matters.

Shannon

The boys used to decorate it when they were younger. They're like, okay, we'll decorate the tree for mom's birthday. That's fine.

Dylan

What do you think your kids would take away from Christmas if you were to ask them what their favorite parts are? Or what traditions do you think will they carry on? And if they're ever on a podcast.

Shannon

Well, I know that's a good thing.

Dylan

God forbid as bad as this one in the future. What do you think they'll talk about?

Shannon

It's a real hot take for people, but Elf on the Shelf is really fun.

unknown

Hot takes.

Dylan

I mean, there's a lot of people out there that are like eh-the-worst thing ever, but I saw that this Instagram account of this girl that dressed up as Elf of a Shelf, and she doesn't have kids. It's her just her husband. Yes, we saw it. And I was dying. Maybe Phoenix showed it. And she passed out on the kitchen counter. Yes. It was it was good. Yeah, do that.

Shannon

I think that the early decorating of the tree will be one because Phoenix already this year, just like because November 1st. Well, November 1st fell on a Saturday this year. So usually it's like Brad'll make a joke of like carrying up the tree on uh Halloween, which one year we did walk around and there was some people that had a tree up in their window, which was kind of funny. But Phoenix put I decorated November 1st this year, and he put up a tree in his room November 1st. Which he did put lights on and stuff. Like he he did string the lights. We don't like put ornaments on theirs typically, but you know, I'm I'm a post I'm a post-Thanksgiving guy. No, there's something about the Christmas lights that I like the garland and the lights.

Brad

Yeah, but it kind of eases the darkness of winter.

Dylan

It yeah, it it does, man. There, I think some of my you know, talking about Christmas traditions or the things that bring on. I sitting even before Christmas, you know, the week or so leading up and being at your house sitting in the lights and the dark, like you've dart like this, it's dark, it's moody, the Christmas trees on, you're playing some music. Well, you know, I like jazz at this time of the year or Christmas, even Christmas music.

Shannon

Cozy Christmas jazz on Spotify, might I recommend that. That's our new one.

Dylan

You just you're sitting on the couch enjoying whoever you're with company, and it's like I don't think there's a lot more. I don't think there's a lot better in life. Oh, to your point, it does ease that dark, and then that's why January gets so dangerous. Or the end of January, beginning of February.

Shannon

Did I need to leave the Christmas stuff all through January?

Brad

Well, that's what people are like, oh, day after Christmas, I'm gonna take all my decorations down. I'm like, bitch, I got like nine more months to be super depressed this year. Like let's leave the lights.

Shannon

Maybe I'll take the ornaments down and stuff, but leave the lights up.

Brad

The lights are big.

Shannon

Last year, Brad actually hung up some hooks in our hallway with the lights and the ornaments because I had this saw this TikTok or something.

Brad

Yeah, she's like, Can we drill a bunch of holes in the wall?

Shannon

I didn't. I actually had plastic stick-on hooks that fell down. How'd that work? They fell down.

Dylan

Yeah. Have you figured out if the plaster's coming off the ceiling yet or not? Fuck it, do it live. No. Are you talking about the missing piece and the he just was worried about the packing tape that was on the ceiling?

Shannon

You know, when you were talking about how you look around things and look at the pictures, I was like, I wonder if he looks at like the balloons in our house that are and are like, man, I wonder if Brad gets annoyed that she just put packing tape on the ceiling with the balloons.

Brad

Only if it pulls a plaster off.

Shannon

Did you see the open plaster on our ceiling? So until he worries about that, he doesn't get to worry about the clear packing.

Dylan

I'm not taking sides here, okay? I'm worried about it. You should. I'm worried about it.

Brad

Hostile. But also Done is better than perfect, right? I'll do it tomorrow. Getting uncomfortable.

Shannon

Why?

Brad

A few more days.

Shannon

A few more days of what?

Dylan

A few more days. Of what? What do you? I guess that's a good point. Like, what is if you don't want to be Christmassy, but you want to feel good in the middle of winter when things are down.

Shannon

Put up a Christmas tree again.

Dylan

You're not wrong.

Shannon

I actually just saw this thing about how to like enjoy like the whimsical of the winter without Christmas y things. And it was like lighting.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

Shannon

Um keeping that stuff up. Like whatever the Norwegians do.

Dylan

Well, that's right. That's what it was.

Shannon

It was like how to keep a Norwegian type.

Dylan

What I'm thinking about, I think what's happened is we've drink, we've crossed. Dude, we're in the middle of the year. Cousine music were just fine. Cousine music was a thing. But the I think what we've done is we've Christmas Christmasized. Is that can I use that word?

Shannon

Go for it.

Dylan

We've Christmasized what other Nordic countries do normally, to your point, during the winter. And now it's like, oh, that's a Christmas thing. We can't do that in January. That's what Jesus wants. Why can't yeah? Why can't there be white lights and other things not just his birthday anymore?

Shannon

It's his birthday week, his birthday month. It's his birthday thing.

Dylan

And honestly, the pattern, it's you know, talk about the tartans and the plaids, those are just very chic Ralph Loren, and we shouldn't just embrace them at Christmas time. Those are all winter. Those are winter patterns. So how do we normalize Christmas without without making it Christmas?

Shannon

Is it Christmas? It's not Christmas. That's what I'm saying.

Dylan

How do we make it how do we make it winter and enjoy it a bit cozy? I think that's why I like going to Colorado so much, is because even in the winter, it does I'm well, you're outdoor, you're skiing. Yes. But it's winter it's winter there. It's winter there, and it's comfy, it's cozy. They do all, you know, there's lights up still, there's fireplaces.

Brad

Well, there's that's what it is. There's still a sense of community and that's one in the Midwest and we just shut down. And in the far north, it's like, nope we're gonna hunker down. Yeah.

Dylan

Instead of but I think that's what instead of embracing I think Minneapolis is really and I there's certain towns like Colorado, obviously for space constraints, whatever, the resorts, they've got the heating, there's tons of money out there, don't get me wrong. But like you're you you're sitting in your ski gear outside gear drinking in like anywhere from 10 degree to you know, some people will be zero, but not a lot, like 10 degree to 35 degree weather, and you're just sitting on the top of a mountain having lunch outside at picnic tables in your ski gear, and it's not like oh, I'm so cold, I'm freezing. It's like you dress appropriately, yeah. You're still able to be outside and enjoy it. Yeah, and like Minneapolis is a great example. They know they're a cold weather city, they're outdoor, their outdoor dining facilities are unbelievable, and they even have them in the winter because they're like, we need to use this space all year. And for some reason in our town, we just not figured out how to make outdoor space accessible all year round. I mean Which drives me a little nuts.

Brad

I laid on the ground in the winter in a nice Philsen sweater and had a great time.

Dylan

Yeah, you were just puking your brains out.

Shannon

Was that in the Philsen sweater?

Brad

One time.

Shannon

Oh my god.

Brad

Is that when you smoke too much? One time.

Shannon

That was a beautiful day up until that point.

Brad

It was a beautiful day after that.

Shannon

I want to take Brad ice skating and he doesn't want to.

Dylan

Do we gotta talk about this again? Yeah. I had to sit in the goddamn hot seat. You could sit in the goddamn hot seat.

Shannon

Orvin, his life dream is to go ice skating and your child's joy away.

Crowded Houses, Nostalgia, And Boundaries

Brad

I am absolutely not taking it. I said I will 100% watch. I will go watch you. I'll be like, hey, how'd that fall feel on your face? You like ice skating now? It's the dumbest fucking thing ever.

Shannon

So he's not gonna be invited because he's a real fun hater.

Brad

No. Yeah, I'm not a fun hater.

Shannon

You just sounded like one about 10 seconds ago.

Dylan

I got better. Were you abused as a child? I got with ice skates. Okay. That's funny. What? What?

Shannon

I've not I've not even like skated either. I'm not like saying I love it, but I'm just saying, let's try it out.

Brad

I have I know. And I'm just saying I don't want to go.

Shannon

New traditions.

Brad

Why don't you where where are you guys gonna go? Listen.

Shannon

I was gonna go to the is it the l- No, the Bettendorf one.

Dylan

Yeah, where like splash landing was or whatever over there.

Shannon

Is it called the landing?

Dylan

Yeah, the landing, yeah.

Brad

I will say I it really. No, it really hurts my like cankles.

Shannon

So you could just say, you know, I'd love to watch you guys. I'm afraid I'd like to.

Brad

I do want I would I would love to watch you guys.

Shannon

How does it feel falling on your face?

Brad

Yeah, also that isn't that fun. I don't I'm not answering. I did see a skating video today or yesterday about skating. No, she this girl is skating outside and it's on a creek system, like racing. No, just just up, just gliding along, like that's cool. You know, going under trees and going around and just meandering her way through this little creek track that's all frozen over. It was really pretty.

Dylan

I met someone the other day that do you remember the downhill ice skating? Like that crazy, like four-cross ice skating. No, that's not dangerous. Red Bull was throwing it on. Of course, and it's like motocross but downhill, and there's jumps and cra like it's like five or six guys, and they're go down the line off the hill, and then they're racing over jumps and turns and corners and like flying down the hill. On ice. On ice. That sounds awful. It looks really cool, but I would eat shit. So if I'm not that I just know how bad my knees hurt. But I met a guy. I met a girl whose husband was like the number one ranked guy in the world. Oh. He's like sponsored by Red Bull and shit. Yeah, there's only fucking like ten of them. Well, I think, yeah, but that's even more impressive, I think. But there's only ten of them. Is it? I don't know.

Shannon

Is it true confession? I've never been skiing.

Dylan

That's fine. You and most of the world.

Shannon

But I have went tubing.

Dylan

Skiing is awesome.

Shannon

Tubing counts.

Dylan

Tubing counts. Anything any any outdoor snow activity is great.

Brad

I mean, tubing is not unlike your first time skiing where you have absolutely no control.

Shannon

He did that as a birthday party, and it was great.

Dylan

I'm hoping to get 25 days this year on skis.

Shannon

Twenty-five days on skis.

Dylan

Yeah. Well, in Asp.

Brad

I've never had 25 days on skis. Yeah.

Shannon

I've not had two days on skis. I've not had two hours on skis.

Brad

Yeah.

Shannon

And I'm okay with that because I feel like at this point it might get scary.

Brad

Um I feel like I mean, I don't think you can recover as well as when I first went. What happened? I mean, if you had the skiing accidents I had when I wasn't a good selling point. Sub 18. I probably have.

Dylan

In the mid-40s? Yeah, no, no. Not at your age. It's not good. No. I there there's some stuff that I don't even screw around with anymore because I'm like, my body does just does not handle it like it used to. Like the heels.

Shannon

It only gets worse, Dylan.

Dylan

I mean, I don't I don't I don't backflip anymore.

Shannon

Off of what?

Dylan

Jumps?

Shannon

What kind of jump?

Dylan

Just kickers? I don't.

Shannon

What's a kicker?

SPEAKER_04

Just a kicker, hardly no.

Shannon

That was that was gonna be my joke.

Brad

I'm sorry. Oh, you still stole hit a button for her. Oh be curious. No, no, hit the sad one. I'm really sad. She's really sad. I stole her joke.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm not sad. I'm mad.

Dylan

And the Christmas spirit is alive. Feels I can just feel it on December 29th.

Shannon

Christmas.

Dylan

Chris Maquanzaconica. Love it. Chris Maquanza Hanukkah. Yeah.

Shannon

Let's do it. December 29th.

Dylan

Oh. Oh. Surrey was trying to talk to me.

Shannon

And why does it sound like that?

Dylan

I Suri is South African for me.

Shannon

How do I do that? Oh, that's fine.

Dylan

Mine's Irish. Oh, do you really have the Irish or Suri?

Shannon

He's a liar.

Dylan

No, the Irish woman. Oh. Love it. I have I the South African's good. I like him.

Shannon

South African.

Dylan

Yeah.

Shannon

Because it almost sounds kind of like a little bit of a little bit more.

Dylan

Brad said, Brad, Brad said that you are not allowing him to do the new Hooker Alexa voice.

Shannon

She annoys me. I'm tired of hearing about her asking me to hear her voice because I heard it and then she comes on and I'm like Is it hot girl voice?

SPEAKER_04

I haven't heard it yet.

Shannon

No, she sounds like a valley girl in college.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm like hot girl voice. Yeah.

Shannon

Stop. Just get away. And if she asks me one more time, she's gonna get unplugged.

Brad

Well, she's gonna ask you because I keep telling her to ask you.

Shannon

Because I've already listened to it. That's the annoying part.

Brad

Do you ever you ever well?

Shannon

It wasn't like that.

Brad

It was like this What do you want on your grocery list this week? I love an attractive voice on the other side of the phone.

Shannon

It wasn't attractive. It was annoying.

Dylan

Like Well, that's your opinion.

Shannon

You like the new is it Alexa Premium?

Dylan

I haven't heard it. I have no idea.

Shannon

Oh, well, so once you hear it, you're gonna be like, oh shit.

Dylan

Man, you know what's really sad about like a few years.

Brad

Is that you can see faces.

Dylan

Oh, you don't have to. There are only fans that don't do faces. Really? I think so. I've never paid for an OnlyFans, so I don't know. I don't know. Because there's you know, two or four. I feel like OnlyFans is like drugs. It's like, no, I don't buy them. Drugs? But if somebody sends them the mail, that's my morality line right there.

SPEAKER_07

I don't I don't buy 'em. I'm not, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna take that, but I'll uh puff puff pass. Yeah, you know, yeah. That's uh anyways.

Shannon

I don't like the new Alexa Premium's voice.

SPEAKER_07

What voice do you like?

Shannon

I like what she sounds like now, I guess.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, she do you like it though?

Shannon

I don't like it, but I don't know what my options are. I don't want to just have two voices that are an option.

Brad

I don't think she likes your voice either because she doesn't answer you most of the time.

Shannon

No, I usually end up yelling at her.

Dylan

I feel like you guys are feuding, maybe. I don't actually know how many voices Alexa is capable. I don't I don't know.

Shannon

I'm just tired of her continuously asking me, do you want to hear my oh, and by the way, do you want to hear my new voice on Blah Blah Ba? No, if I did, I'd ask for it, but thank you.

Dylan

I my brother was using my Amazon for a while, I think, because like I would get notifications. They'd be like, in your shopping cart, new disc rims are bubble. I'm like, I don't I don't put car parts in my shopping.

Brad

Oh, well, now I'm gonna start putting stuff in our Amazon.

Dylan

You're you're saved for later items are now 20% cheaper.

Brad

I'm gonna get carried away.

Dylan

Um I did have Alexa. Oh my god, this was this was with this was when this was in Rome. I was at Rome and the person I was with at the time got mad at her. I don't remember what she got mad at, but she just started talking to herself and she literally ordered like 400 rolls of toilet paper. Oh boy. And then I got a call and she's like, Can you go to Amazon and cancel because Alexa fucking just ordered it? She's like, Your order has been confirmed. And I go on my cart and my orders, and sure as shit, like Wow. I forget what the order was exactly. I bet I can go look it up actually. Um it's the same account, but it was I was dying laughing that that she was able to just kind of go on her own little tirade by herself and then just order a bunch of shit randomly.

Shannon

I've done that before.

Dylan

If I've tried to order, it's I don't like it because I've done it before, but it's like the four pack versus the total pack or the whatever.

Shannon

She can't even figure out what to add to a shopping list. And sometimes I'll put something like that.

Dylan

Do you guys get Walmart Plus out here?

Shannon

Yeah, that is a dream.

Dylan

Do you guys subscribe to stuff?

Shannon

Like I I just like I uh well I just subscribe for Amazon, but not for Walmart yet.

Dylan

Oh, I subscribe on Walmart for like my Greek yogurts and my granolas.

Shannon

Fascinating.

Dylan

It's I mean that's the most healthy snack throughout the week, and that's just like what I snack on. And so it's like every Monday I need three and two.

Shannon

I took a little break from the delivery to the house during the month of December because there was a lot of craziness happening out here.

Dylan

Why is he doing the snori vate face? What are you so angry about?

Shannon

Because he doesn't have to worry about the shopping.

Dylan

What are you gonna talk about? Jesus Christ. Why don't you fix your goddamn shop? Let's talk about that. When are you gonna actually do the things you say you're gonna do? That is not Christmas related. Come on, Brad. Let's build a Christmas shop.

Shannon

It's a Christmas miracle.

Brad

That's exactly. It's Christmas. You know what? Fuck you guys. You just said you were really proud of me before we started this.

Shannon

Do you want me to put a Christmas tree out there? Would that help?

Brad

Ooh. I do have a candle to burn out there. Is it pine? Well, the problem is there's a lot of kindling out there.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know if that's a good idea. Yeah, new house. I don't think it's a good idea.

Dylan

Don't do it. Don't do it. I just got rid of most of it, though. I was gonna say, especially with the stain. Just put a fresh coat of lacquer on it. Did you see that thing? It went up.

SPEAKER_07

That's mostly not flammable. Oh, I'm not interested in Walmart Plus. Meet the parents?

Brad

No, I'm like a fresh coat of lacquer on it.

Shannon

I just get in sleepy to have too much beer.

Dogs, Stockings, And Shelter Stories

Brad

You know what? I am happy about the Walmart Plus because it's less that you have to do it.

Shannon

It brings me joy. It sparks joy.

Brad

It's spark of joy.

Shannon

I love it. I can't get enough of it. One time I accidentally had somebody else's groceries ordered to me here, and I felt real bad about it. We ate them all. I didn't eat the chicken, but like these people had gotten like chick, well, because they were like rotisserie chickens or something, and it was like I wasn't planning for that. But I think we got like milk and butter, and I put it out on on Orient Family. I said, Did anyone not get their order? Because they gave it to us too. Nobody claimed it.

Dylan

How old were you when you found out Santa didn't exist? What?

Shannon

What?

Dylan

That's what we're gonna end this on.

Shannon

No.

Dylan

Ow? Oh shit. Sorry. Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck. I'm so sore though.

Shannon

I can't answer that question because to me, sir.

Dylan

There's kids in this goddamn house. This is dangerous.

Shannon

He does. Okay. So I can't I will end on that. There's not an age. Whoopsie. I can't give an age because the magic to believe is to receive, is what I heard someone say once, and that's what I'll go with.

Dylan

Wait. Let's try to make a joke out. I'm gonna have to redact this, aren't I?

Brad

No, because that's your belief. Oh, okay. And your beliefs don't matter.

Dylan

Okay, good. It's like the Polar Express. It's like a lot of things. Yeeks.

Shannon

What are you worried about?

Dylan

I mean, how close are they?

Shannon

I don't I don't see a street. I don't remember.

Brad

I don't remember. Damn it, I fucking ruined it. I don't remember that being a that'd be a good podcast. I don't remember that either. Not your kids, but somebody else's a memorable thing in my life.

Shannon

No.

Brad

You know?

Shannon

I can remember the oldest talking about it with me on a while. Whoa.

Brad

Caught my parents.

Shannon

It is a lot of strength.

Dylan

Would you quit doing that?

Shannon

It's a lot of stress. I will say.

Dylan

I wasn't that wigged out by it. It didn't really like crush me. No, and I think it's I think that's a metaphor for how I am now. Okay. Dead inside.

Shannon

Hence why you don't want to create new traditions with your future self.

Dylan

True new traditions, marriage, all of it.

Shannon

Christmas life.

Dylan

Brad, why don't you talk about what you want to talk about? That's it.

Shannon

You just wanted to make me happy.

Brad

That's it. You got 364 days. To do what? Make me happy. Why? Get me another co-host.

Dylan

Have you? Have you seen this what I'm saying? Like, this reminds me, have you seen the guy that's like, I'm gonna split the G, like day 67 of trying to split the G, and he like grabs a guess and he fucking chugs the whole thing and he's like, damn it. No. That's how I it's like he's very obviously not trying to split the G, but I'm like, that's how I feel when it's like uh we have one year to make Brad happy. And I'm like, well, we'll see you in 2027.

Shannon

So I feel like this has been like one of those rom com books that I've read or something where it's like I was thinking more 50 shades.

Dylan

Can we get more 50 shades?

Shannon

That was shitty writing, but like Yeah, of course it was shitty writing. There's there's a lot better ones out there.

Dylan

Send them my way. I'm looking to get in the rom com. Wait.

Shannon

Are you on the Goodreads? What?

Dylan

No, I need to be.

Brad

Oh, I was confused about the genre we were going for.

Shannon

Rom com. All right.

Brad

Last words? Uh make traditions, not babies. Keep memories. Oh, make make babies and memories.

Shannon

Make traditions keep memories. Wow, Brad.

Dylan

Happy Chris McKonza Hanukkah.