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The Mystery of the Eels
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**Discussion of the Sea begins at 1:45**
**Discussion of the Eels begins at 10:20**
Have you ever been swimming in the ocean, and felt something slimy brush past your legs? Have you ever thought to yourself, "was that an ocean snake"? Have you ever looked at an eel and thought to yourself, "where are their testicles"? Today we aren't talking about the birds and the bees. Instead, we're talking about eels and ... Today's conspiracy is all about eels and their unknown reproduction. Where do they come from and how do they do it?
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Hey, it's Colleen. Hi, it's Kate. And it's Megan. And we're the three skiing queens. Join us as we discuss popular hoaxes and give you our comedic take on what is fact and what is fiction. If you have a sense of humor and an open mind, come take this journey with us.
SPEAKER_01We'll tell you what we think and we'll try to prove it to you.
SPEAKER_00Hey guys, what's poppin'? Welcome back. Now that we're in the summer heat, has anybody been swimming in the ocean? No swimming in the ocean yet. Swimming in pools? Well, this is the first official episode of the C Zun S-E-A, if you're not picking up on the on the uh on the pun. How else would you spell season? Is that how you spell the regular word? I actually did not pick up on that until just now. I thought we'd change the spelling for it. Season, like the waves, right? Yeah. How does the ocean say hello? Wave, they wave high? They wave. They wave. I was like, no. Whale, you're not wrong. Yeah, I was like, that's a whale.
SPEAKER_01Uh well, before we get into our drink check, I have some fun ocean facts for you all. Okay, I'm ready. Just to prepare you all, our listeners, for the next six weeks and what's to come. It's all deep, deep sea. The the deep sea is mystifying. We're deep diving. So we set it in the trailer. If you follow us on Instagram, but the ocean takes up 71% of the Earth's surface, and we have only explored 5% of it. I believe that. So, like, I mean, there's a lot of mysteries. I said too since 1969, we've sent 12 people to the moon, but we've only sent three people to the deepest part of the ocean, the Marianas Trench. Uh the Marianus Trench is deeper than the height of Mount Everest. I believe that. We have only mapped 20% of the seafloor. That's crazy. So we have mapped more of the surface of the moon and the surface of Mars than we have the seafloor.
SPEAKER_00This is actually my cousin just started a new job, and this is essentially her job. It's to map the seafloor? Yeah, she goes away on boats for like weeks at a time. That's kind of terrifying. I think she's technically mapping coastal first to monitor um environmental science. Major environmental sciences. Oh. Yeah. And a focus in mapping. What's the ocean on Instagram? The reels that always terrify me. Oh, when they're like, ooh. And that audio. It's the Great Seas. It's like Lake Michigan, Lake Superior, Lake Erie, the North Sea. Yeah. Yeah. And that audio. To be clear as separate from the Great Lakes. Yeah. I want to. I really want to go to like the Great Lakes. I'm on the side of the side.
SPEAKER_01Because of Emily Henry? Yeah. Yeah. Did you know that if we removed all of the salt from the ocean? Desalination, if you will. Desalination. There would be enough salt to cover the earth's entire surface and form a layer more than 500 feet thick, which would be the height of a 40-story building.
SPEAKER_00Do you ever think about like why it's salty? So much salt. You ever think about how we're like the blood of our body is salt? Yeah. Like why salt's so important? But do you think about how the trees look like our lungs? Yeah. Like and the veins. Yeah. Capillaries. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So there are about 8.7 million eukaryotic species on the globe. So that's like plants, animals, fungi.
SPEAKER_00I'm just gonna ask, what does that mean? Eukaryotic means more than one organism.
SPEAKER_018.7 million eukaryotic species in the world, 2.2 million of those are marine, meaning that a quarter of all life lives on the ocean.
SPEAKER_00That makes sense because there was ocean life before there was land life.
SPEAKER_01Scientists estimate that 91% of the species in the ocean have not been classified yet. I don't I believe that. So what we know is just the tip of the iceberg. Yeah, literally. Literally. That's ice bag.
SPEAKER_00Ice peg straight ahead. Wait, icebag straight ahead. I don't think they say iceberg straight ahead. Ice bag. It's like another straight ahead. They don't do it in the movie? No, it's like a mandela thing where like I don't know if you guys listened to our past episode, but we talked all about the Mandela effect. So go and just scroll on back and listen to that episode. And Icebag right ahead. Like they never said the British are coming. Yeah. We talked about that on Freemasons.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And then the last fact I have for you. Okay. If you really wanted not even a fact, this is just like a mystery, right? A global ocean mystery. How did water end up on our planet in the world?
SPEAKER_00I don't like that.
SPEAKER_01I don't like that. I don't like that. I don't like that. If you believe the Big Bang theory, which Kate's talked about in the past, does not she does not believe in. You did a very good explanation as far as why you didn't believe that. But if you believe it, after that, then when the Earth was formed, it was really hot, right? Extremely hot. And so any water would have evaporated. It would have boiled away. So there are theories that like comets brought water when they crashed into Earth. There are theories that like maybe planets like Jupiter wandered toward the sun from the outer solar system. Or it could have been like buried deep in the core of Jupiter. From a scientific standpoint, if you take the Bible out of it, where did water come from? But can't be a good idea. I don't see hydrogen and oxygen combining.
SPEAKER_00Two molecules of hydrogen combining with one all the cable. Yeah. So basically, if you look at the Bible and how like the earth was created, it was created, lightness was separated from darkness day and night. Then waters were separated from air. So we were water, air called But where did the water come from? That's why you have to believe that God created it. It's like again, when you go back and look at like the theories that have been presented to us from science that can't prove anything. Just like you can't prove that God created it. But anyway, after there was separation between land and air, or sorry, waters and air, water separated from land into one mass of land that was, you know, we call Pangea as like from his his history perspective. So anyway, again, another reason where I'm just like, why is it such a hard thing to believe that we were created?
SPEAKER_01All right. That got philosophical. On that note, is it time for our Drink Drink Chat? What are we drinking today, Kate?
SPEAKER_00I'm so happy you asked. I stopped at the Harris Teeter before I came to Megan's. Harris Teter. Harris Teter. And I use my Vivino app, sponsor us. Ooh, what is it? Where you can like take a picture of the wine label and then it'll tell you like the rating and like the notes of the wine. Because not everyone just buys wine because of the label. I look for wine with farm animals. And anyway, this one wine's called Charles and Charles Rose. Chuck and Charlie. The original two buck chuck.
SPEAKER_01Two buck chuck. Is that actually what it's called? That's at Trader Joe's back in the day. Back in the day. They had their two buck chuck, which is like their two dollar wine. Two dollar what?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. A whole bottle. You know the story about Trader Joe's, right? No. No, do you know why the wine and like the alcohol at Trader Joe's is like so cheap? No. Oh my gosh, you guys don't know everything? Trader Joe's is kind of cheap. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Trader Joe's is, I will listen, Kate and I will fight die on this hill that people try to tell us that Trader Joe's is overpriced. I don't think Trader Joe's. Every time I leave Trader Joe's, I'm like, I can't believe I got all of this.
SPEAKER_00Okay, Trader Joe's and Aldi are owned by brothers. And they so one brother owns Aldi, one brother owns Trader Joe's. Trader the guy who owns Trader Joe's was married. And when he divorced, his wife said, You can take all the profit from the store. I just want the profit from the alcohol. And he said, Done. And then is like sells it at cost. Oh, he's just trying to remove Zach. Yeah. That's funny. Yeah. To the benefit of the rest of the way. So buy your alcohol at Trader Joe's peeps. Yeah. Enough about Trader Joe's. Colleen, what are you drinking? I'm drinking the summer classic. Oh. Lemonade. That is a summer classic. The lemon eat it. You know what I like? What? When you go to the beach and they're selling that frozen lemonade. Oh, the slush. Oh my god. It's so good. It's something about being on a beach and drinking a frozen lemonade.
SPEAKER_01I have been having my niece juice lemons. Homemade lemonade. Homemade lemonade. This number, and I think we're gonna have to feature that in one of our drink checks for our season here. Just a reminder, guys, don't forget to check out our Facebook and Instagram pages at Three Scheme Queens. That's the number three Scheme Queens, all one word. We're also on Reddit, same username. If you want to check out our website, go to three schemequeens.com and you can find links to our social media accounts, our BuzzBrout page, all of our episodes, additional content, our contact page, and our discussion board where you can engage with us and share any updates about the topics that we've discussed. Let us know how we're doing and what you want to hear next. There are also opportunities to financially support us. There are links to buy Sacapa Coffee, links to our recently updated merch store, and affiliate links. And as always, if you choose not to financially support us, we appreciate the follows, the downloads, the listens, the likes. Okay, and then Kate, what should the people do after this episode?
SPEAKER_00Uh yeah, scroll on down, leave us a five-star review, share us with your friends, share us with your family, um, leave us a comment, send us an email. Colleen will read it in the accent of your choosing. And she is very good at mimicking accents. Yeah, just give me a week's notice. Yeah. Colleen, what are you gonna teach us about today? Today, I'm gonna talk about some slimy archaic creatures. Ooh. Have you ever been swimming in the ocean and felt something slimy rush past your legs? Sure have. Have you ever thought to yourself, was that an ocean snake? Ew, no. Have you ever looked at an eel and thought to yourself, where are their testicles? I've never seen an eel. Today, we aren't talking about birds and the bees. Instead, we're talking about eels and dot dot dot. Oh, the ellipse! A mysterious. Um, because today's conspiracy is all about the mysteries of eels and their unknown reproduction. Oh where do they come from? Okay. Do they do it? Um, well, what do you know about eels, Kate? You said you've never seen one. Well, I've never seen an eel, but the only thing I think of when I think of eels is like in The Little Mermaid where they like electrocute. Those are eels, right? Right. I think so. And then don't eels like live in holes and they just like come up out of the hole? There's that's all I know about eels. There are Kate's doing a reenactment of an eel coming out of a hole right now.
SPEAKER_01It's really funny.
SPEAKER_00I'm pretty sure that's a meme. So there are so many different types of eels. And some of them aren't even actually eels. Some of them we assume they're eels because they look like it, but they're actually just different types of fish. And eels themselves are actually fish, they are a part of the fish family, they're not like some kind of like reptilian. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? It's it's its own, they fall under fish, not related to the royal family then. Correct. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, and did you know they can live up to a hundred years? No, isn't that insane? Like when I think about how old turtles are. Hold on, I have a question. What eats eels? Um, like what is their predator? Well, humans. Humans? It's oh yeah. It's part of sushi. Sushi. Um, and I'm just gonna assume other bigger fish. I'm I'm gonna be honest, every time sushi has eel on it, I'm like, I could die from this. Um, did I ever tell you about my care.com horror story? There was a summer where I was in between jobs um and I did care.com for a couple months, and I got hired by this family that the wife was uh Ukrainian and the husband was Indian, and they had these two identical twins, and she made me lock up my phone when I would arrive. I remember you telling me and she had nanny cameras in every single room, and they stayed home the entire time. They were just upstairs watching me, and um she sounds like an experiment. I wasn't allowed to eat my own food because the girls had allergies, so she made me eat their food and it was cold eel with like barbecue sauce, and it was the and I never went back. I ghosted her. I was like, I'm not coming back here, even though your girls are cute, I'm not coming back here. Start of a horror movie. It really does me too. She was sending me mean messages on Care.com. You're like, You locked up my and anyways, uh Gen Z things. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I was like, let's say the parents did leave, I'd have no access to communicate with the parents other than the nanny other than the nanny camp. And they don't even have a home phone. It yeah, very scary. I no one's judging you about ghosting that. Yeah, that was crazy. So yeah, eels can live up to a hundred years old, they're part of the fish family, their blood is poisonous. Okay, I have a question. Can they only breathe underwater? No, they can breathe. Some some breeds can live up to 48 hours above water. They can live also without their heads. They're like worms. If you cut their head off, the body keeps going for a couple hours. Wait a second. Grow? No. I was right, yeah. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. So, um, those are just some random fun facts. Okay. But my particular focus today is going to be on their reproduction because to this day, we have no idea how eels reproduce.
SPEAKER_01Do you know what I do know? What? I the one fact I know about eels that I only learned after you mentioned eels. What? Only thing I know is that once a year, all the eels in the world travel to the Bermuda Triangle, and then suddenly there's a whole bunch of baby eels.
SPEAKER_00I'm actually gonna correct you. Oh, okay. There's different types of eels that live in different oceans. The American and European eels breed in the Bermuda Triangle. Oh, but there's also the Japanese eels that breed in the um the West Mariana Ridge.
SPEAKER_01Oh, so the Mariana trench? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Whoa. So there's different types of eels and they breed in the either side of the so but it no matter what, they have to go somewhere to breed. But we but we've not actually seen them. We've never seen them know that after this, there's a lot of yeah, and I'm gonna get into how we've even come up with that. Okay. So eels have been studied for as long as ancient Egypt, they have been a phenomenon that historical scientists have been obsessed over. Aristotle studied them, and his theories actually started the origin of eels. We actually, for hundreds of years, assumed they just came up out of nowhere in water. And Aristotle's theory was around like water and mud and eels creating in the mud. And we just assumed that was fact until like the 1800s. Oh wow. So what did he think? Like they went and they laid their eggs in like mud, and then when water hit it, it just formed. That's what he thought. And there was also uh Sigmund Freud was a huge, he was obsessed with eels, and he went on what he was obsessed with the fact that eels had no reproductive organs. So he would go to fish towns, collect buckets and buckets of eels, dissect them, only to look for reproductive organs that he never found. Okay. There's a lot wrong with Freud. Yeah. He was like obsessed with finding gonads. Yeah, and all he wanted to do with it. He loved his gonads, yeah. But he never found them. And no scientists, if you dissect an eel, you won't find it. So how do they reproduce? In my opinion, it's asexual reproduction. Interesting that you think that. We do we do learn more. Um, in 1886, there was another zoologist, Eves Delege, who discovered a fact about eels that we never learned before. Eels are metamorphic, so they can change. They're like butterflies. Oh, and they go through five different stages.
SPEAKER_01Oh, I think I did.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. We used to think these were like different species of eels. Exactly. Just an eel in different stage. Yeah. So yeah, we used to think they were completely different species. We never coordinated them. Because if you look at the pictures, they don't look like. They don't look alike, or they look like just different breeds. So the first one is called eleptocephaly. So that is when they're past the larvae stage and they look like a little flat see through fish. Okay. There's glass eels, elvers, okay, yellow, and then the end form, silver. Okay. And that was the entire life cycle. But we have no concept of how long they are in each cycle. Okay. Like we don't know how long are they leptocephaly, how long are they glass eels? We don't know because we just cannot get a hold of them to track them. They only grow reproduct reproductive organs only when they need them in that specific life cycle. So you can find um like ovaries and testicles at a certain stage, but we haven't been able to narrow it down what age and what so like they get them and then they go away? Yeah. And we don't uh we also don't know why that happens.
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SPEAKER_00Wait a second. But how do we know that so so someone has found an eel with testicles and or ovaries? Yeah, and they've also been using um hormone injections on eels in laboratories. Oh, that's kind of sad. They've been trying to reproduce because eels actually, the American and European eels, are on the um endangered species list, and so they've been trying to reproduce them. And because we don't know how they reproduce naturally, we've been trying to induce it in a lab by ins injecting them with hormones. And we have been successful in creating the sexual reproductive organs in the labs, but not successful enough to reproduce babies, like we haven't gotten to that point yet. Oh so well, they just gotta go to the Bermuda Triangle. Yeah. So something there, something there, yeah. So I talked about the five stages. Number one, the leptocephalia only exists in the ocean. Okay, and a specific ocean, specifically a sea in the sa Sargasso Sea. Sargasso. You guys know where that is? Nope. It's the Bermuda Triangle. Oh. So it's a circle of a sea. They call it a sea within a sea. Okay. Because it is bordered by water currents only, no land. And it loops around the Bermuda Triangle and then extends into the Atlantic. So we're gonna do a separate episode of the Bermuda Triangle.
SPEAKER_01Specifically on the Bermuda Triangle. But the Bermuda Triangle, also known as the Devil's Triangle, is the 500,000 square mile area between Miami, Bermuda, and San Juan. So it's like Miami, Bermuda, and San Juan form a triangle. And that area within that space is the Bermuda Triangle, where numerous incidences of disappearances have been reported involving both ships and airplanes. And there's a lot of different theories uh to explain kind of these disappearances, but they think there's a lot of weird environmental factors like strong currents. I will talk about other theories in a future episode. But this is where a lot of these eels go to reproduce.
SPEAKER_00This is the only where they reproduce. Sorry. The this is where the English and American eels reproduce. Okay. And if you look at the Mariana Trench or the Mariana Ridge, it's the same type of environment. It's bordered by water currents only, similar temperatures, similar depths. So that's why we think they that correlates. But for today's I wonder, is it like similar similar pressures? Yeah, I would assume so with similar depths. So the only reason why we know that they reproduce or can assume they reproduce in this Sargasso C is because we've studied the leptocephaly stage, the first stage of the heels. And so a scientist with the last name Schmidt traveled for months on the Atlantic Ocean. Kate's holding back a joke right now. The video I watched didn't say his first name, they only said his last name. Schmidt. Is it Winston? Yeah. Winston Schmidt. But he um was from Europe and he traveled um from Europe to the Bermuda Triangle, the Sargasso Sea, over months of a time. And every couple meters, they would test the water looking for these leptocephalali and looking for eels. And they monitored the amount of leptocephalia they found, at what depth, what temperature, and they finally found a pattern where around the Sargasso Sea, they were finding the smallest leptocephaly, so the earliest born and the most amount of leptocephalia in the Sargasso sea. So by taking those facts, we can make an educated gas guess that they are coming from that sea. Okay. Um but they didn't see like eggs. No, okay. We've never seen that. Okay, never found it. Okay. Um, and never was successful in a lab to reproduce. What if they're coming out? Of like the magma. The migration that these eels make in this leptocephalia stage is almost 6,000 kilometers. So we have no idea like why, how they're able to migrate that long. We don't know their migration trails like we do with like dolphins and seals, but we have not been able to successfully track these eels other than finding them in different stages. We don't know their roots because they come from everywhere. These eels are like in their adult form, they are in like rivers, um, freshwater, brackish water. They're everywhere, but they all still come from the ocean. Wait, I have a question. Is there only certain seasons that they go to? So the you will find the most leptocephaly, so the most first stage during like the monsoon season. Okay. In the Sargasso season, which is like a warmer, humid season. But it's like a yearly thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So we've never actually seen their eggs. We've never actually seen their larvae. We just know of the leptocephaly.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And how are you right? How are the eels getting from like the ocean?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And we don't know how long that migration takes. So it there's so many variables. Time space continuous. I also just want you guys to know in my process of learning about the eels, do you know we have a new ocean? No. Like officially declared the South Ocean. Oh. It's around Antarctica. It's its own ocean now. Did you know that? Wait, so there's how many oceans were there? Five? I thought it was five oceans, seven. Indiana. Indian. So Pacific, Atlantic, Indian, Southern. Yeah. Which is what you must be talking about. Oh, just just named in 2000. Yeah. It's brand new. So new globes have it, not the old globes. And it has its own like animal species. Isn't that crazy? I said there were five oceans. Going to name it though. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Kate.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Anyways. Um I do it. Also learning about different types of breeds of eels. And they all have the same lifestyle, but their adult form has the same name, but there's different types. So there's parasitic eels. And I learned in my process of researching this, guys, there were two parasitic eels found within a beating heart, within the beating heart of a great white shark off the coast of Montauk. What? Yeah. They had no idea how I got into the bloodstream. Oh isn't that crazy?
SPEAKER_01Montauk experiments. Were they coming from Plum Island? I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Or the aliens in the tunnels of Montauk. And I'm like, are they studying eels? Well, guys. They probably are.
SPEAKER_01Oh, they're definitely studying eels. I I 100% believe that eels are extraterrestrials. Yeah. Megan's on one.
SPEAKER_00You're laughing. No, I guess eels and octopus, octopi. They're up there. They're creepy. Just learning about this eel situation. We just do not know anything about anything in the ocean. Yeah. It is. And we also haven't started questioning it until like the 19th century. That's why y'all take this.
SPEAKER_01I mean, I didn't start questioning it until we started this podcast, and you guys and Mermaid Girl were like, Do you know how wild the sea is?
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, I want to talk about the Sargasso Sea a little bit more. Okay. Get it a little uh more in depth. So it's bound by water currents, no land. Um, it takes up two-thirds of the North Atlantic, it loops around Bermuda and then stretches along east about a thousand kilometers. So that's the size of it. Um, this is actually kind of the visual. It looks like this on the on the like it has like the water chips. Oh, there's a potato chip bag that she's using as it has a really good reference. The reference. It's also known as the golden floating rainforest. Do you know why? Also it has an insane amount of seaweed just floating around. Interesting. And actually, this is not is it golden seaweed? I don't know. Oh. But um, I have my research on TikTok has taught me that this seaweed isle island, because of climate change, is expanding and growing and spreading way more than we want to because of the heat of the earth now. Oh. And it also has the giant island of trash. Have you heard about that? No, but you know what I did see?
SPEAKER_01A lot of people were or like uh when you Google like some of the mysteries around the ocean, one of them is like all this plastic that's around the ocean. There's an island where it goes.
SPEAKER_00Is it like washing to an island? We're tracking it from satellites. It's that it's that big, you can see it from space now. Oh and it's trash and seaweed. I bet is it all straws? That's what we're led to believe. Plastic straws.
SPEAKER_01It was one straw and it didn't even kill the turtle. Okay. Let me have my diet coke with a plastic straw.
SPEAKER_00I think we would be more, we should be more worried about the plastic wrapping around the coke. Wait. And we should be crazy.
SPEAKER_01I think we should talk about wine bottles that glass bottles that don't even get recycled in 50% of places.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but sea glass is a glorious treasure. I love sea glass. I'm actually pro glass on the sea. Um I think we should talk about the plastic like forks and knives that we all use. Like that's probably worse than the straws. Let me just get so we talked about Aristotle. Uh, ancient Egypt studied eels and they associated eels with their sun god or the god of sun, which I think is kind of interesting for when we get into ancient Egypt and when we talk about aliens in relation to Egypt. Are the eels a part of that? Um, also, this is a fun fact that I had no idea. During the medieval times, eels were used as a currency. Because during Lent, they were told not to eat any meat that had um anything that came from an animal that had like that did sex, right? Because sex is bad. So during Lent, people were directed to eat food that did not come from sinful acts. And so the animals that were permitted were egg were fish, and a part of that was eels, because eels had no testicles or gonads. Oh, so they were allowed to be eaten, and so it was used as a currency. And during Lent was the time when all these towns were meant to pay taxes to the churches, and they would occasionally pay in bags of eels and money. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. So nowadays there's a lot of current day research on eels because of their endangered species, um, and their focus on the reproduction and also the pollution effects on how the pollution in the ocean is directly impacting the population of eels, which I found kind of interesting. And we talked about how they grow them in labs um and have yet to have any successful reproduction of eels in a lab. But while the eels are in tanks and it is that monsoon season, they will instinctually swim in the fish tank in the direction of the Bermuda Triangle. Whoa.
SPEAKER_01So creepy.
SPEAKER_00They know that it is their breeding season and they know they have to go there, whether or not they're in a lab or not. Oh no, this is giving extraterrestrial vaccines. Yeah, it's like how they're gonna be able to do that. The mother is calling us back. Yeah. And actually, the country that knows the most about eels and is doing the most current day research is Japan. I was about to say, is it Asian? Is it? Yeah. Well, eels is a huge part of their diet and their culture. Sushi. Yeah, it has there's so much sushi available. And so they have been doing their own research and their own studies, and they have actually been able to localize spawning locations in the West Mariana Ridge. So that's where their eels come from. They've actually collected fertilized eggs, but weren't able to hatch them. And they have tracked tagged eels swimming towards spawn areas. So they've been able to discover more details than we ever have. Okay. Because they're the spending money on it. They're focusing on it. How creepy is that? That's like we have the eggs, but it's like they know. And you know what is even creepy. Well, it's like it has to be close to the hive. Yeah, it's gotta be close to the mother. Uh yeah. Yeah. You know what's even creepier is that they've tracked down the spawning of the eggs and the cr like the the cracking of the eggs to within a few days of the new moon. They only hatch when it's the new moon. Isn't that weird? That's interesting. And at a depth of about 150 to 200 meters. So the depth of the water, I'm assuming that can correlate with the pressure of the water. Why is it correlated with the moon? I know the moon has to do with tides, but what does the new moon's effect on the water have?
SPEAKER_01When the sun, moon, and earth are in alignment at the time of the new or full moon, the solar tide has an added effect on the lunar tide, creating extra high high tides and very low, low tides.
SPEAKER_00Okay. So um I'm sure that has to play a part with why it it matters to them in the ocean, but or just call me crazy. Okay. Crazy. But like everything was recreate was created on a rhythm. Women are created on a like a cycle. Yeah. Men are created on a sun cycle, like are all eels females? You know what I mean? Since we can't prove if they have testicles. Well, we know they grow them at some point, but what if they're all like self-reproducing females? Oh. Wait a second. So you're telling me, wait, I do it now, I'm like, wait a second. Yeah. We don't even know the sex of an eel when we dissect it. Why does this just occur to me? That's what I'm saying. And then, all right, to connect it to another conspiracy that um we may get into in the future. Okay. Have you ever heard of Nessie? Yeah. Have you ever heard of the Lochish Monster? The Loch Ness? Well, there is a lot of conspiracists that believe the Lochness monster is just a giant eel. And we have no proof that it's not. Well, yeah, because they can't find it. And we don't actually know how big eels can get. We know they can live a hundred years old, but we don't know. Well, this I have facts that are trying to prove it against it being an eel. That's what I and it's like the probability of finding an eel that size in that amount of water is way too high. Like it's not probable. And then also they say the probability of finding an eel that does the breaching behavior where they like come to the surface is it would cost like that like a whale. The famous photo. Yeah. They say it would cost too much energy for the eel to use for an area with not enough food sources. So essentially they're like, you're wrong. But also, I'm like, we don't know anything about eels. No, it's like what do eels eat? So how do we know?
SPEAKER_01I think I also I think I read the same article article you did about is a Lochus monster a giant eel and it had the same fact as you. And then the one other thing I saw was that it said, um, well, like based on the growth, the growth rate that we know that they know from their studies of the eels. They can't get that big. Yeah, it would have to be over 200 years old to reach that size, and they've never found an eel more than 150. But we've never explored the ocean.
SPEAKER_00Wait a second. Hold on. I hear you. What if the lochness monster is just the mother of all eels? We don't and that's the one who's calling them back to the Bermuda side. Yes.
SPEAKER_01But she's in Scotland.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. She could go. That's Europe. You're right. It could be a European eel. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So you know what? I don't think that the Loch Ness monster is a giant eel, but you know what I do think it is? You believe in the Loch Ness monster? I do. I do too. I believe in Megalodon. Of course I believe. But what I think is that eels are extraterrestrials. And pretty much I, while Colleen was researching eels, I was researching unidentified submersed objects or UFOs. We call them USOs. We're gonna talk about that next week. So I'm I am researching this, and then I'm hearing what Colleen's telling me, and like I think well, leave it. So here's why I think that. As you mentioned, nobody knows where they come from. They have no pre-reproductive organs. We talked about how they migrate to the Rebuta Triangle to somehow mate.
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Um I I mean, I was like, no matter where in the world they are, you corrected me. They go to one of two places, but else mysterious places, which by the way, are both thought similar environments, both thought to be potential areas of alien um of extraterrestrial colonies with water, which again we're gonna talk about next week. Oh my god. Um they are the only water creature that can migrate salt water to fresh water then back to salt water without dying, like you said. So they can adapt to these sort of frequency. They can, as you said, they can live on land without water for 48 hours because they breathe out their skin and not through their gills. What is out? Yes.
SPEAKER_00How are they classified by fish? Um there's so many variants of fish.
SPEAKER_01That's the problem. And then we we're gonna talk in the UFSO episode about how because we don't know enough about fish. Yes. Well, specifically, they say when we talk about the aliens, that there are potentially two like species of aliens. Okay, there's like the the the evidence we have. I I can have if you had told me eight months ago that I would be making the schmiel, I would have said you were crazy. Okay, but based on the research, it makes sense. We have the green aliens we think of with the big eyes, right? And then we have these like preying mantis like aliens. Okay. So people are like, you know, who's to say there aren't different species of aliens?
SPEAKER_00Um, right. You're forgetting the human reptilian zoids that are running the country.
SPEAKER_01You're not wrong. I am specifically referring to the two species of aliens in the water that we think might have colonies under the water.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_01Uh right. How can I forget those? He was to say the eel isn't like a third species.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Like its own species. Yes. And we don't know how deep they can actually go. We have found them at such different depths. Like we don't know what they can withstand. Again, they can travel to the center of the earth, guys. Yeah. I mean, if I That's what I just said, do they come from the magma? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I again we said I said it on the Instagram trailer, but um the Marianas trench that we talked about, which is 36,000 feet deep, um, pressures at the at that sea floor are 16,000 pounds per square inch, and at that level is where they have found these sea cucumbers that are living. Am I selling you on this? Yeah, Kate's nodding. Could they be aliens? Oh, oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00100%. I think I I I think octopi are aliens. Um, there is one fact I forgot to mention. The American and English eels migrate 6,000 kilometers, the Japanese only migrate 3,000. So that's where it's like I think the Europeans are a little bit more impressive. European eels. Thousand percent I agree that they could be extraterrestrial creatures, or at least derived from extraterrestrial creatures. Yeah. Are we derived from extraterrestrial tree creatures? The world may never know. You know what? We're Scientologists think so. You know what? This is why we can't send her to the Scientology.
SPEAKER_01I believe. I think Yeah. Uh okay, we're gonna go out outside and a little bit enjoy this nice weather and rose all day. Yeah, lovely weather. But in the meantime, Kate, I mean, do we have a poll?
SPEAKER_00You don't have a choice. You have to believe. Okay, I I feel like this can't be a poll because we never voted at the beginning. Well, what do you think eels are? I think that they're aliens, like the octopi. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I 100% think they're extraterrestrials.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think they I would love to know their origin. And also, I would love to know how much they haven't changed compared to like dinosaur time to now. Oh yeah. Like that is also interesting to me because I feel like they're kind of like they just haven't changed, they haven't adapted. Hmm. It's like evolution isn't real. Whoa. I do believe in evolution within spir within species.
SPEAKER_01Like you do you always pull out these TikToks and blow my mind.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but all all my sources are not TikTok, but I this was inspired from TikTok. I uh, but no, I mean I think I have never given eels a second thought outside until now whether or not I wanted a speechy until Oh, I've never given eels second thought outside of the Little Mermaid. I just don't think I'll ever eat. I mean, I know I I took one bite when I was babysitting. I don't think I'll ever eat it again because it's like, what if they are doing things to No, but I do isn't there an eel type that you're like it could paralyze you if you eat it? Wasn't that a thing? That's an octopus, that's a squid. I know what you're talking about. They can't only you can only eat it within a certain timeline of cutting it because it kills you. Is that what you're talking about? The ink? Oh, I don't know. I just think poisonous though. Yeah, there's something about an eel. I swear. Google eel poisonous.
SPEAKER_01Blood is poisonous to humans and other mammals, but both cooking and the digestive process are fascinating as a toxic protein. Interesting. Uh unlike poisonous snakes, eels do not have hollow teeth that contain venom. So unlike a snake bite, you won't get sick or die from venom poisoning. So I don't understand how they would how is it poison?
SPEAKER_00The electric eels only get that aspect of them in their final form. So like final destination. Their final spawning, if you will. Um it's so weird, guys.
SPEAKER_01Doesn't spawn each other.
SPEAKER_00Well, what generates the electric? Um, I didn't research that, but that's out there. Alright. I only researched how they did it. Yeah. It being italicized, you know what I mean? Brown chicken copulation.
SPEAKER_01That's my word of the day. Hey guys, electric eels uh can release an electric shock of up to 860 volts.
SPEAKER_00No, thank you. Uh when they're in water, how do they not electrocute everything in the water? Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it doesn't like water. Also, you can put this earlier on in the episode, but does anybody else on their TikTok have that guy who has eels in his basement? We aren't on TikTok.
SPEAKER_01Okay, well, there's And in fact, I was I would say when Colleen sends a TikTok, I am able to open it. Um, but for the most part, Colleen and Mermaid Girl have to screenshot.
SPEAKER_00I have to screen record it and then send it in the group chat. Yeah. Every time I have to screen, and then it then it builds up so much in my albums, and I have to go through and delete them every once in a while. Um, there's this guy on TikTok who has pet eels and they're just like in his basement. So you go to his basement floor and then he has like a drop hatch and he opens it and it's just water and eels. Nope. Has he seen them reproduced? No, but they swim towards Suburb Munit Triangle. That is really funny. Wait a second. Could you imagine if you go out on like a Tinder date with a guy and he's like, Do you want to come over and he's like, You want to see my eels? And I would think that's a come on joke. And then he just takes you to the basement and opens the trapdoor. And she was never heard from again. Okay. Well, Kate, what should people do? One more time. The people, they should scroll on down, leave us a five-star review, leave us a comment, share us with your friends and family, share us on social media.
SPEAKER_01Thanks, guys, for joining us on our very episode one episode of the season. Season! The season. Season one, episode one. Not to confuse with season one, episode thirty two.
SPEAKER_00Keep it spicy, add some season in. Okay. Add some season in. We're gonna season your life this summer.
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SPEAKER_00I like that one.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And join us next week when we talk about you. That's a which Pauline just thought was a typo. I did think you were spelling it wrong every single time. Unidentified submerged object. Uh, so we'll see you next week to talk about it. See you next Tuesday. See you next Tuesday. See ya.