Music In My Shoes

E18 The Weight of Sundown on a Soul Man

March 10, 2024 Jim B Episode 18
E18 The Weight of Sundown on a Soul Man
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E18 The Weight of Sundown on a Soul Man
Mar 10, 2024 Episode 18
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Embark on an auditory journey that celebrates the spirit of John Belushi and resonates with the rich legacy of music history. As we traverse the soul-stirring performances of the Blues Brothers, you'll discover how Belushi and Dan Aykroyd amplified the talents of music greats like Steve Cropper and Donald "Duck" Dunn. But the intrigue doesn't end there; we unravel the tangled web involving Cathy Smith, her infamous involvement with Belushi's untimely demise, her past love affair with Gordon Lightfoot, and her connections to The Band. This episode is a sonic tapestry, interlacing stories that span generations and genres, leaving you with a newfound appreciation for music's interconnectedness.

Prepare to be moved by personal tales that weave the fabric of our lives with the threads of music. I'll share how a chance bar encounter and a touching email reaffirmed the impact of our podcast, and how the virtuosic bluegrass of Billy Strings at the State Farm Arena captivated even the most uninitiated listener. Revelations abound as we reflect on the bittersweet memories tied to Supertramp's "Breakfast in America," Music's profound influence on our personal narratives is undeniable, and this chapter invites you to explore the soundtracks of your own life stories.

Concluding our episode, we delve into music rankings, where the expected hallmarks of the industry yield to some surprising chart-toppers. You might anticipate Sgt. Pepper's to reign supreme, but instead, we'll discuss the roaring success of albums like Whitney Houston's "The Bodyguard" soundtrack and Shania Twain's celebrated hits. Join us as we examine the unpredictable nature of public taste in music and give thanks to the talents behind our show, including our producer Jimmy Guthrie at Arcade 160 Studios and the musical stylings of Vic Thrill. Together, we celebrate the evolving soundscape of the music world, inviting you to tune in for more insightful episodes of Music in my Shoes.

Please Like and Follow our Facebook page Music In My Shoes. 
You can contact us at musicinmyshoes@gmail,com.

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Embark on an auditory journey that celebrates the spirit of John Belushi and resonates with the rich legacy of music history. As we traverse the soul-stirring performances of the Blues Brothers, you'll discover how Belushi and Dan Aykroyd amplified the talents of music greats like Steve Cropper and Donald "Duck" Dunn. But the intrigue doesn't end there; we unravel the tangled web involving Cathy Smith, her infamous involvement with Belushi's untimely demise, her past love affair with Gordon Lightfoot, and her connections to The Band. This episode is a sonic tapestry, interlacing stories that span generations and genres, leaving you with a newfound appreciation for music's interconnectedness.

Prepare to be moved by personal tales that weave the fabric of our lives with the threads of music. I'll share how a chance bar encounter and a touching email reaffirmed the impact of our podcast, and how the virtuosic bluegrass of Billy Strings at the State Farm Arena captivated even the most uninitiated listener. Revelations abound as we reflect on the bittersweet memories tied to Supertramp's "Breakfast in America," Music's profound influence on our personal narratives is undeniable, and this chapter invites you to explore the soundtracks of your own life stories.

Concluding our episode, we delve into music rankings, where the expected hallmarks of the industry yield to some surprising chart-toppers. You might anticipate Sgt. Pepper's to reign supreme, but instead, we'll discuss the roaring success of albums like Whitney Houston's "The Bodyguard" soundtrack and Shania Twain's celebrated hits. Join us as we examine the unpredictable nature of public taste in music and give thanks to the talents behind our show, including our producer Jimmy Guthrie at Arcade 160 Studios and the musical stylings of Vic Thrill. Together, we celebrate the evolving soundscape of the music world, inviting you to tune in for more insightful episodes of Music in my Shoes.

Please Like and Follow our Facebook page Music In My Shoes. 
You can contact us at musicinmyshoes@gmail,com.

Speaker 1:

Start so Long. Theme playing ch�特ates. You've got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

You've got the feeling in his top there groin. Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge and you're listening to Music in my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off Episode 18. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. It's hard to believe so many years have gone by since John Belushi overdosed and died on March 5, 1982 at the Chateau Marmont in Hollywood, California, Famous from Saturday Night Live, Animal House and, of course, the Blues Brothers. So seeing the Blues Brothers perform Soulman on Saturday Night Live made you realize that Belushi took it seriously and that they came across as a seasoned band. They really had some good musicians, did a great job. I loved watching that and they took that ended up going on tour releasing multiple albums. When you started to hear some of the other songs Belushi sang, he didn't sound as good as he did on Soulman, but he was doing something that he enjoyed, Jimmy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, they had fun together. It was great for their camaraderie, those two guys.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so Dan Akroyd was with John, but they also had Steve Cropper and Donald Duck Dunn who were as a side note. They were guys that were on the Stacks Records house band Booker T and the MGs, and I think everybody knows who they are. They just don't realize that they know who they are. Booker T and the MGs did that song, that instrumental Green Onions, but they also were the backup band for Otis Redding, sam and Dave and a bunch of other real classic musicians. I believe Steve Cropper also was a co-writer of Doctor the Bay that Otis Redding did. So basically they're kind of legends, those guys, and having them in your band is a pretty cool thing to me.

Speaker 1:

No, that was probably kind of a mutually cool thing that Belushi and Akroyd had this fame and this kind of celebrity and they were able to get their favorite famous blues, you know R&B musicians to play in their band because those guys probably weren't, you know, actively doing as much at that time and it's like, oh great, it's mutually beneficial. Here they get to play with their musical heroes and these guys get to get out there and play.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I think you're hitting the head right on the nail.

Speaker 1:

Wait, I'm going to leave that in.

Speaker 2:

Hey, so you're hitting the nail on the head, as they say, but I think that you're right about that. I really do, because what ended up happening while that was 1978 that the Blues Brothers were popular when they first came out. They did the movie the Blues Brothers in 1980, and everybody was in that movie. So I think it really opened up to a brand new fan base. You know, cab Calloway, aretha Franklin, james Brown, just a ton of people that really were good people, that were past their prime probably, but this was a great movie for them to be in.

Speaker 1:

To get young people to know who they are? Yeah, because they're legends.

Speaker 2:

I mean, here we are today, we're talking about it. I was young at the time but I remember that movie and I can watch that movie forever. I just love it. It's just a really good movie. Really good music, really cool people. You know Carrie Fisher's in it. I could go on with all the people that are in it. It's just super cool to me. So back to John Belushi's death in 1982, the police really didn't have many leads to make any arrests. They had questioned a woman named Kathy Smith, but nothing came of it until May 1982, when a National Enquirer article comes out with Smith admitting she was with him that night and that she was responsible for the fatal injection. This led to her spending 15 months in prison, jimmy. I'm not sure why she would give an interview and admit it. I just don't get it.

Speaker 1:

No, that wasn't smart. Now she was kind of Maybe she was high.

Speaker 2:

She was under consideration. There's, you know, no joke about that. She was questioned, but there wasn't anything to tie her to it. Until she does this article and the next thing you know she's doing 15 months in jail.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't think she had a lawyer advising her on that one.

Speaker 2:

She had a lawyer. I saw pictures.

Speaker 1:

The person should have said don't talk to any reporters.

Speaker 2:

Don't talk to anyone. She might not have had the lawyer until she got arrested. Maybe that's the case. Yeah, so if you rewind eight years from 1982, what would it look like? And you go back to March 25th 1974. All right, gordon Lightfoot has a single out. Okay, sundown, sundown. You better take care If I find you've been creeping around my back stairs. Ringabel, it does. The song reached number one on the US charts, and the song's about Gordon Lightfoot wondering what his girlfriend was doing while she was out with her friends, and that girlfriend was Kathy Smith.

Speaker 1:

Oh my gosh wow.

Speaker 2:

The person that had to do with John Belushi's death is the person, the relationship that they sing about in Sundown, which was the number one record. Crazy, is that not?

Speaker 1:

I've never heard about that.

Speaker 2:

That's why you listen to music in my shoes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so this song released 50 years ago. It's about the same woman. I just can't get over it. It just absolutely boggles my mind. I said boggles a lot in the last episode.

Speaker 2:

But wait, jimmy, if you rewind from 1974, back to the 60s, there was a female who hung out with Leavon Helm, rick Danko and Richard Manuel all members of the band. The band that ended up backing Bob Dylan had their own songs. I think you remember some of the songs the Weight up on Cripple Creek the night. They drove old Dixie down, all right. So the female gets pregnant by one of the members of the band, but she can't say who the father is for sure, and this led to people calling it the band baby, because she didn't know who the father was. And this female was Kathy Smith. Good grief, it's the same person. Absolutely blows my mind that one person is connected to all of these events in three different decades. That is crazy, is it not, mm-hmm? Have you ever heard of this before? Never Again. That's why you listen to music in my shoes. Sure, do Jimmy guess what time it is?

Speaker 1:

Music in my shoes. Mail bag.

Speaker 2:

Can't get enough of that. Yes, it is music in my shoes mail bag time. So, jimmy, I got an email and it says Hi, jim, I met you at the park bar Saturday before the Billy String show. We chatted a little and you told me about your podcast. Man, I appreciate what you were doing. It's entertaining, it's informative. Of course, by your recommendation, I took a listen to the 17th flight one first. I literally chuckled to myself at the end of that story. Keep it up, you've gained a new regular listener. Hope to hear you speak about the Billy String show. It was a heater. So I went to see Billy String's Bluegrass musician.

Speaker 2:

For those of you who don't know, on Saturday night I was at the park bar and the people in line behind me had grateful dead shirts on and somehow we just started talking and I had mentioned I saw Bob Weir in December at the Capitol Theater and they had asked did I see the grateful dead with Jerry Garcia? You know, just kind of talking? And I said it's kind of funny. And they were like what's the difference? I said, well, I do a podcast. You need to listen to this episode and we'll tell you what the difference is. And I think it's really cool to meet somebody that I've never seen before, talk about the show, and here I get an email from them a couple of days later and that's you know, the super cool thing about the music in my shoes mailbag. This is the best email that we've received so far, because it's from a total stranger that you just run into and you never know what can happen. So, billy Strings. So I'm at the State Farm Arena.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, this past Saturday, bluegrass, it was pretty cool. I have to be honest with you, I didn't know what to expect. I've not seen him before in concert, not very familiar with his work, but I wanted to go and you know see what it was all about. And what they did is they didn't sell any of the 200 section, they only sold the 100 section and they kind of had like black curtains up, played two nights, friday and a Saturday night, both sold out.

Speaker 2:

But man, can he play? I mean to see him play the guitar. You know that Bluegrass style, as fast as he is. The show was, you know, almost three hours. They did have a little set break between, you know sets one and two, but it really was cool. One guy's playing a banjo, one guy's on a mandolin. It was everything that you would want. No drums, you know, stand up bass old school stand up bass. And I definitely was pleasantly surprised. I was really surprised at how fast he could play for so long. I know I just said that, but it really sticks out in my mind Like-.

Speaker 1:

Was he on acoustic guitar?

Speaker 2:

Yes, he was on acoustic guitar and just to see him do that, you know a couple of songs that stood out Slow Train, tennessee Stud, tennessee Stud's Jimmy Driftwood cover, it looks like, you know, in the second half he ended up playing more covers than or standards, I should say than originals, but it was just really cool. I mean I think that they really do justice to everything. I went with a friend of mine that had wanted me to go before and he said that they kind of definitely turned it up a notch since he saw them last time. I think it was last year he saw them that they're it's almost making the jams a little bit longer, extending them and doing some things to bring in like a new audience, which was me. I was that person that they were bringing in.

Speaker 2:

They sang a couple of Georgia songs. I sang one, georgia Buck, a Doc Watson song, bringin' In the Georgia Mail Charles Monroe, just good songs. Most of them I never heard really enjoyed it. But the surprise to me which I never saw coming, was Nights in White Satin, the Moody Blue song. They did a cover of it and it was really really good. Like never in a million years would I have thought I'm gonna hear this song tonight and they did a good job. They really did. I would definitely go back A song, freedom that they played as part of the Encore. So the Encore they came out, they did three songs and they all crowded around one microphone and as Billy Strings was playing and singing he would be the one in the microphone, but then when the mandolin player was playing they'd move back and you know it's just that's the traditional bluegrass the true, the traditional, like you said, which makes it even cooler.

Speaker 2:

You know like it was a lot of fun, really good time. So I appreciate that. Music in my shoes mailbag email from Jordan, who I believe is somewhere here in Georgia. But for those of you who would like to get in touch with us, it's musicinmyshoes at gmailcom or you can reach us on our Facebook page, music in my Shoes.

Speaker 1:

Music in my shoes mailbag.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was a good story, jim. I really enjoyed that story. But another good story, super Tramp. Breakfast in America comes out March 16, 1979. Spawned four singles logical song which was out March 79. So 45 years ago that song was playing on the radio, if you turned it on, and it was on a lot of radio stations. A lot of a lot of stations were playing it. Reach number six on the Billboard charts. Breakfast in America. Goodbye, stranger that. Reach number 15 and Take the Long Way Home, which was released as a single in October 79, reach your number 10. Thoughts on Breakfast in America.

Speaker 1:

Okay, this is going to sound weird, but I just never liked Super Tramp and I do not have a good reason Other than I think maybe because I was like in the fourth grade and I played on a Little League football team and I would be dreading having to go to these football practices. They were in the Georgia heat and it was grueling and everything, and I think those songs were on the radio and I associated it with that. That's the best I can come up with. But something about Super Tramp Breakfast in America does not make me happy and that's truly personal.

Speaker 2:

So you hear these songs and all of a sudden it's like it's football practice time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I need to just go out and get yelled at by some mean Southern man.

Speaker 2:

Wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Now I really do like Breakfast in America. I've always liked it. I had it at first on cassette. I remember it was one of those cassettes that I bought, ended up getting it on CD. Now I have it digitally and still love it. I still like it. I like the quality of the sound, the way that they recorded it. To me it's real, really, really good music. Album cover. I don't know if you remember, but it's a waitress kind of holding a drink in one hand and a menu in the other to look like the Statue of Liberty in New York City. And then they got New York City. It's kind of set up like a table for breakfast, but it's got the Twin Towers in place where they should be and it's all from the view of a plain window and I think they did a good job with that whole setup for the album cover. I really like looking at it.

Speaker 1:

I never noticed that it's from a plain window.

Speaker 2:

Yes, it is.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was so focused on the image inside the window. But yeah, it is from a plain window.

Speaker 2:

There you go, learning something new. I like that. I like that.

Speaker 1:

Back when Plains served you breakfast.

Speaker 2:

Yes, they did In.

Speaker 1:

America. Now the international flights still do, but they don't serve breakfast in America. Yeah, Wow that sounds pretty good. See what I did there.

Speaker 2:

I like that. That was good, jimmy. So Jimmy, if we move up 1984, the cars release Heartbeat City. Okay, so that came out March 13th. Six singles were released from this album. And these six singles first one was released in February 84, you might think all the way up to the sixth one, which was the Heartbeat City song that came out in September 1985. And it's kind of funny sometimes how some albums they put the singles out within a few months. Others, like this one, they really let it go for a long time, bringing it into 85, which Heartbeat City. If it's released as a single in 85, that means you're still probably hearing it on the radio in January 86 or so. Like they stretch this one out Now. This album was the first one they had put out in, I think, three years. They put an album out in 78, 79, 80, 81, took a little bit of a break and this one a lot of people kind of called their comeback album. The shake it up album didn't do so well. Thoughts.

Speaker 1:

It's a good album. They kind of ventured into maybe a little bit more what the 80s sound was at that time, rather than the more of the rock cars from the first couple of albums. It was just a little bit more poppy and synthy, I think, than the earlier albums, but it's got some really great songs on it and I think I was going to look this up, you might think I might think you might think that it was Ben Oars kind of return as a lead singer because he sang so many of the early hits.

Speaker 1:

But then it became like oh, rick O'Cassack became the lead singer in the face of the band and nobody even kind of knew that Benjamin O'Rour sang a lot of the hits. But then Drive, which was a massive radio hit he was a singer on that, which I don't think he had been a singer on a hit for the cars in four years or something at that point.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you look at Shake it Up, the two big singles off of that were definitely Rick O'Cassack songs. I personally think those two songs on Shake it Up Since You're Gone and Shake it Up are far better than any song on Heartbeat City. But the problem is they're the only two good songs on Shake it Up. The rest of the album definitely takes a three or four notch down step. I agree with you. With the synthesizers, some of the sounds that they kind of did on some of these songs, it's definitely different. This album was definitely played on Z100, WPLJ in New York, the big top 40 stations.

Speaker 2:

It's not as much of an LIR record right no and it's not, whereas the earlier stuff definitely would have been. So it's funny that you mentioned that, because not a single song actually made a screamer of the week from this album. No, not one.

Speaker 1:

There wasn't a screamer on this record.

Speaker 2:

You might think I think it's a good song. The album starts off with Hello Again.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so I've got a story for you.

Speaker 2:

You do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so this might sound like I'm changing gears here, but I used to go to the record store at the mall sometimes. So I was at Camelot Records at Perimeter Mall here in Sandy Springs, atlanta, and I wanted to get the B-52s Wild Planet. For some reason I was buying it on cassette. Normally I always bought vinyl and then I would make a tape of the vinyl and that way you have both and store-bought cassettes. I never thought the quality was as good, but anyway, I was buying a B-52s Wild Planet on cassette. Bought it. Packaging says B-52s. It's the writing on the tape itself says all the tracks. I pop it into my tape deck Hello, hello again. And it's the Cars Heartbeat City on this cassette.

Speaker 2:

No, it's not From the factory. I swear Really, yeah. So what did you do?

Speaker 1:

Um, I just kept it. I was like, well, I don't know what I'm supposed to do. I think I don't think I returned it. I don't know. I honestly don't know what I did.

Speaker 2:

It's funny because I was going to talk about that song opens up the album and I was, you know, wondering is that telling people, you know, hello, hello again? Is that them saying, hey, we're back here, we are, you know, using that? And it wasn't you know, the lead single, but it was the lead song on the album. That is so funny that you actually bought something like that.

Speaker 1:

I've never heard of anybody getting you know something from like Warner Brothers or whatever the record company they.

Speaker 2:

They put the wrong tape in the wrong thing, so there had to be more than one. You know other people had to get that.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you know we need to look that up and see if it happens.

Speaker 2:

I wonder if there's people thinking man the.

Speaker 1:

B-52 has changed. Those cassettes are worth like a million dollars.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and you used it on your bicycle to put it for the spokes, like like old baseball cards. Yeah, that is funny, that is funny.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so yeah, you were going through the the tracks, so we got hello again.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, um, you know we talked about you might think there was magic, which is a good song. I think Rick Ocosic does a good job singing that because it's a little bit out of his normal singing, like he actually kind of sings this song. Like to me, rick Ocosic doesn't sing a lot, it's more of him just saying it and it comes out a little musical. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1:

to you, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Drive. You talked about drive. I mean, yes, that was another one of those songs we've talked about at many times that it's just on everywhere Every time you turn around MTV, you know whatever radio station. If you flip to a different radio pop, radio station, top 40 radio station boom, there it is. It was even on rock stations. So rock stations were playing a ton of Heartbeat City Um a song why Can't I have you kind of a slower song for them. But it was released as a single. But you know, overall much better album than Shake it Up. But I still think the first cars album one of the greatest albums of all time. You can't beat that album.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and as a wise man once said, their first album is better than their greatest hits.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, I don't know who that wise man was, my brother, john who's been on the show. He's been on the show. He was on episode six.

Speaker 1:

There you go.

Speaker 2:

That was stories from the front row and the back cover of London Calling Right. But he's right, he really is right. That's one of those albums you listen to from beginning to end. You don't have to worry about, you know, changing it at all and kind of. While I'm on that, you know we talk about records. One of the reasons you didn't want to do it is because if you picked up the needle, you had the chance of actually scratching the record, and if you scratch the record, then you would always hear that little pop or hiss or skip or whatever it might be. So I think that when we were younger, we were forced to listen to a whole album and listen to songs that maybe we might not listen to because we didn't want to ruin the record, right. Whereas today you can hear, you know, six notes and say I don't like this and just boom, just next, yeah, next. You don't even have to listen to the whole album. You can just listen to one song and never hear another thing on it. Well, let's move up, jimmy. Let's go all the way to 2009, 15 years ago. So February 27th 2009, U2, no Line on the Horizon.

Speaker 2:

For me, I think it's the last good U2 album. It does have some flaws. It's starting with the first single of Get On your Boots. To me it was like taking vertigo from the previous album. 2004 had a dismantle and atomic bomb and pushing it to be more cute and experimental, but in the end it just didn't work. I tried to go back and listen to it again. I couldn't make it through the whole song. I tried it like three different times over the last couple of days. It still is as flawed now as it was then. To me, because we've talked before where I've gone back and I've listened to stuff and had some different thoughts and different opinions. I don't on that song whatsoever.

Speaker 2:

The album begins with the main title song, no Line on the Horizon, which I really like. I mean, I really really like that song. I definitely put it in my top 20 to 25 all-time favorite U2 songs with lyrics like I know a girl with a hole in her heart. She said Infinity is a great place to start and time is irrelevant. It's not linear. I just really love the words in that song and there's actually a few songs that the words are really cool on this album. I think that they did a good job with it. No Line on the Horizon 2 is released on the deluxe version of this album. So no Line on the Horizon 2 is kind of like the original way the song was. Thank God they did not release it because it wasn't very good.

Speaker 2:

They went in a lot of different directions with this album. They had a bunch of different producers, a bunch of different cities and they never were consistent with stuff and they just kept changing it and changing it and changing it until finally they came out with the product that they actually released. So I like the song Magnificent. It was released as a single in May 2009. I'll go crazy if I don't go crazy tonight. That's the third single off of it, a song called Stand Up Comedy. Then they have this slower song, white as Snow, a ballad that while it's sad, it's actually very enjoyable to listen to. And then a great song is Breathe, which I think is a really good rock song. Goo Guitar Edge really does a really good job on this song. They played on David Letterman the first week of March back in 2009. They were the first guests to do All Five Nights.

Speaker 2:

I recorded it. I'd watch it the next day and it was pretty cool. They seemed to be enjoying themselves, having fun doing something of working out the kinks on some of these songs, because now, as they start to get experimental, it's tough to reproduce that as you do it live and it's even more difficult to reproduce it on a TV studio set and it was pretty cool watching. I definitely enjoyed it. Like I said, I still like the album. I like it a lot. To me it's fun and it's still the last good album that they put out as far as I think.

Speaker 1:

Well, so you say the last good album they put out. I mean, how many albums have they put out since then? Songs of innocence and songs of experience.

Speaker 2:

They put those two out, which I don't like that much at all, and then they did the one with where they reworked all the songs.

Speaker 1:

Oh, right, yeah, that kind of does that count?

Speaker 2:

It doesn't count. Yeah, I'm glad it doesn't count.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's weird with no Line On the Horizon for me. I was a major, major fan of how to dismantle an atomic bomb and no Line On the Horizon. I listened to it a couple of times and I just couldn't get into it. I should revisit it, since you like it that much.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I definitely revisit it. Don't listen to get your boots on. And they even say like I've read some interviews with them where they just kind of say we probably went a little overboard. We probably went, you know, over the top too much. We probably shouldn't have done it and they just it was.

Speaker 2:

You know that song. It was on commercials at first, it was everywhere and you were inundated with something that you didn't really want to hear. But the rest of the album is very different than that song. So, Jimmy, I didn't talk about it in the mail bag, but I've had a lot of people comment about the top 12 albums of all time, whether it's been in person, phone calls, text, emails, a lot of talk about it, and a lot of people have said the same thing they never expected Shania Twain to be at number 12. Again, as I said last week, I'm not saying it's not a good album, I'm not saying she's not a good artist, I'm not saying that at all. But when you think of all of the albums sold in all time history, of any genre, it blows my mind, so I just wanted to kind of throw out a couple others there.

Speaker 2:

If we go to number 13, number 13, garth Brooks, no Fences, yeah, that makes sense 18 million, all right, tied with that. Guns and Roses Appetite for Destruction. Yeah, all right. Also tied. Journey, greatest Hits Also tied. Whitney Houston the Bodyguard Now the Bodyguard, I know sold a ton of stuff. I know that people really were into that, but again, I don't think that it's top 20 of all time. It just kind of blows my mind that one's kind of crazy to me.

Speaker 1:

Now I do have an interesting perspective on the Bodyguard because I lived in England for six months in 1992. And the Bodyguard must have come out when I was in England and back then. I don't even know if it's different now, but back then movies didn't come out in England for like six months after they came out in America, true. So I got back to America and the Bodyguard had already like come and gone, but then it would come up in conversation. I'm like what are you guys talking about? It was like I had this little hole in my pop culture life from all the movies that I didn't know about from the time I was in England. But you're right, that's how things would happen.

Speaker 2:

I mean even albums at one point were released months apart from the US and from Britain and then they started to get a little bit closer where they might just do it a couple of weeks and eventually they got to a point where they were doing it much closer. But yeah, that must have been something coming back and you're like Kevin Costner in a hit movie. What's going on? Whitney Houston, what's happening? So if we go, a couple more albums Alanis Morissette 17 million. Boston the first Boston album 17 million. Bruce Springsteen, born in the USA 17 million. Elton John greatest hits 17 million, and we'll finish up with the Beatles. The blue album, 1967 to 1970 at 17 million.

Speaker 2:

What still blows my mind is if you had asked me what was in the top 10, before I talked about it on the last episode I would have said Sgt Pepper's. I would have thought let me see which Rolling Stones album I would have thought about all this. We still have gone through all of this and we haven't hit any other of albums like we thought we would hear. It's amazing. I mean that just says a lot more about it. I mean that just says a lot more about Whitney Houston and the Bodyguard and Shania Twain and the Eagles having two of the top three. The people have spoken and they have cast their ballots by purchases and streaming, and it doesn't mean that what you think it's going to be it is. It is what I just told you.

Speaker 2:

So that's it for our episode 18 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located here in Atlanta, georgia, and to Vic Thrill for our podcast Music. This is Jim Boge and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, keep the music playing.

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