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E24 Living the Rock and Roll Dream

April 21, 2024 Jim B / Cannon Rodgers Episode 24
E24 Living the Rock and Roll Dream
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E24 Living the Rock and Roll Dream
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Jim B / Cannon Rodgers

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As the needle drops on another episode of Music in My Shoes, we're whisked away to a time when movie scenes and their soundtracks became inseparable in our minds. I fondly recall the arresting notes of The Police's "Roxanne" echoing through "48 Hrs.," and who could forget John Cusack serenading us outside a window with Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes" in "Say Anything"? It's a walk down the memory lane, peppered with personal anecdotes that'll have you grinning, including the charming mix-up with Gabriel's song approval and Jimmy's own encounters of being mistaken for Cusack. Ah, the joys of a musically infused nostalgia!

This episode's heartbeat is set to the rhythm of Cannon Rogers' pedal steel guitar, as he shares his serendipitous journey from pandemic pastime to sharing the stage with Cracker. His story is a testament to the magnetic pull of music, highlighting the raw energy of live performances and the influences that drive a musician's passion. From the complexities of mastering his instrument to the profound effect of playing alongside his idols, Cannon's tale is a harmonic blend of dedication and dream-chasing that resonates with anyone who's felt the call of the stage.

Finally, Cannon and I sink into the grooves of his favorite albums that have sculpted his sonic landscape. With tales wrapped around each record, from Steve Earle's "Transcendental Blues" to the live ecstasy of the Grateful Dead's "Without a Net," we unpack the profound impact these albums have had on our lives. And as the show closes, we invite you to connect with us, sharing your own musical journeys and the tunes that have soundtracked your most memorable moments. Step into our shoes, and let's keep the beat going together on Music in My Shoes.

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As the needle drops on another episode of Music in My Shoes, we're whisked away to a time when movie scenes and their soundtracks became inseparable in our minds. I fondly recall the arresting notes of The Police's "Roxanne" echoing through "48 Hrs.," and who could forget John Cusack serenading us outside a window with Peter Gabriel's "In Your Eyes" in "Say Anything"? It's a walk down the memory lane, peppered with personal anecdotes that'll have you grinning, including the charming mix-up with Gabriel's song approval and Jimmy's own encounters of being mistaken for Cusack. Ah, the joys of a musically infused nostalgia!

This episode's heartbeat is set to the rhythm of Cannon Rogers' pedal steel guitar, as he shares his serendipitous journey from pandemic pastime to sharing the stage with Cracker. His story is a testament to the magnetic pull of music, highlighting the raw energy of live performances and the influences that drive a musician's passion. From the complexities of mastering his instrument to the profound effect of playing alongside his idols, Cannon's tale is a harmonic blend of dedication and dream-chasing that resonates with anyone who's felt the call of the stage.

Finally, Cannon and I sink into the grooves of his favorite albums that have sculpted his sonic landscape. With tales wrapped around each record, from Steve Earle's "Transcendental Blues" to the live ecstasy of the Grateful Dead's "Without a Net," we unpack the profound impact these albums have had on our lives. And as the show closes, we invite you to connect with us, sharing your own musical journeys and the tunes that have soundtracked your most memorable moments. Step into our shoes, and let's keep the beat going together on Music in My Shoes.

Please Like and Follow our Facebook page Music In My Shoes. 
You can contact us at musicinmyshoes@gmail,com.

Speaker 1:

This is Cannon, who sometimes plays pedal steel for Cracker, and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. He's got the feeling in his toe-toe.

Speaker 2:

He's got the feeling and it's out there growing.

Speaker 3:

Hey everybody, this is Jim Boge and you're listening to Music In my Shoes. That was Vic Thrill kicking off episode 24. As always, I'm thrilled to be here with you. Let's learn something new or remember something old. So back in April of 1979, the police, roxanne we all know that song, roxanne, of course, peaked at number 32 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles chart. They originally released it in 1978, but without much fanfare, didn't really do a whole lot, re-released it in 1979 and voila, it's a hit. I can't help thinking about the 1982 movie with Eddie Murphy and Nick Nolte in it, where Eddie Murphy's character, reggie. He's in a jail cell, he's got headphones I don't know if it's like some Walkman or something like that and he's singing Roxanne and I might add a very bad rendition of Roxanne at the top of his lungs. Do you remember?

Speaker 2:

that it was no party. All the time I'll say that.

Speaker 3:

It was definitely no party all the time by any means. But when I think of that movie and that scene and watching it over and over and you know I was in high school when that came out and how many times you would be walking somewhere and someone would just belt it out and everybody wanted to do it just like Eddie Murphy, right, you know? Not like Sting, but like Eddie Murphy. That was the funny part about it and you know to think that that's something that still sticks with us all these years later. So if we stay with the movie theme, I saw a couple of things online mentioning it was the 35th anniversary of the movie Say Anything being released on April 14th 1989. So we're going 10 years after the police Roxanne peaking.

Speaker 3:

All of a sudden, 10 years later, you've got this movie Say Anything. It has John Cusack in it and then it also had the guy who played Frasier's dad on the TV show, frasier, and I really don't remember much about the movie. I really don't. I don't even remember the name of the actress that starred in the movie. I don't remember her name. But I'm sure most people remember the scene where a John Cusack character holds a boombox over his head outside his ex-girlfriend's bedroom window with their song playing Peter Gabriel's In your Eyes. Yep, you remember that?

Speaker 2:

That's the only thing I remember from that movie.

Speaker 3:

It is the only thing I remember also. But In your Eyes is a classic song, you know, without the scene I'm not here talking about this movie at all. We are talking about something totally different Right In your Eyes, originally released on Peter Gabriel's album. So A great album in itself, really good album, great videos. And that song peaked at number 26 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles in November 1986. So it's a few years later. It appears in the movie. So Peter Gabriel wasn't sure if he wanted to actually include the song in the movie. So, as they normally do, they send a rough cut of the video, the film. You know, whatever they have, they send it to him and initially he's like, yeah, I'm probably not going to let you use this, and that's partially because of the overdose of the main character at the end of the film.

Speaker 2:

But See, I had no idea that happened.

Speaker 3:

There you go. You know why? Because it didn't happen. Oh, they sent him the wrong film. They sent him a rough cut of Wired, which is a movie about John Belushi, and we all know we've talked about him before on Music in my Shoes.

Speaker 2:

Nobody held up a boombox outside that window.

Speaker 3:

No, I mean I just cannot believe that that actually happened. But I'm glad to say they got it straightened out and the song was okayed for the movie and you know, it's kind of become a iconic scene even if we can't remember any of the rest of the movie.

Speaker 2:

You know, I am uh like once every year or so, somebody will think that I look like, or possibly am, John Cusack. Can you believe this?

Speaker 3:

So next, I cracked myself up on that one.

Speaker 2:

I heard the crickets going.

Speaker 3:

I thought that was funny.

Speaker 2:

It was. I mean, I think it's funny too, but some people so do you think you look like John Cusack? Not particularly, but I mean, if I have to look like somebody, that's probably it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean I don't think you do. I mean not at all. I think you look like Jimmy Guthrie is who I think you look like. That's sweet. I try, you know. But yeah, I mean John Cusack back in the day I mean he was in some pretty good movies. I mean he was pretty cool. He's actually in one of my favorite movies, better Off Dead. Absolutely love that movie, but we'll talk about that in a future Music in my Shoes. So while we're still talking about the movie, say Anything.

Speaker 3:

The Smithereen song A Girl Like you was originally written for the movie. It was not used because the producers thought the words gave away too much of the plot of the film. So if you listen to it or you read the words, it kind of makes a little bit of sense, because the chorus even has the movie name in it. I'll say anything you want to hear, all right. So if you go and listen to that song, it's the movie. You don't even have to watch the movie. You can listen to the song, which is what I did. That's exactly what I did.

Speaker 3:

But this album by the Smithereens that the song was on came out in September of 89. It was produced by Ed Stasium. We've talked about him before. He did the replacements when they did the re-release of the Tim album. He's done the Ramones, so you know he's done a lot of good stuff.

Speaker 3:

And we try and mention people's names that you don't normally know so that you can kind of see some of the things they do and say, yeah, that kind of sounds like that. Oh, it makes sense. We just try and let you learn something new. If we can, we're generous. That's what we do here at Music in my Shoes. So, as I mentioned, came out in September 89, and it actually peaked at number 38 on the Billboard Hot 100 singles March 17th of 1990. So on episode 19, I mentioned seeing Cracker at 40 Watt Club in Athens, georgia, and I spoke about a guy named Cannon who was sitting in on pedal steel guitar because the band's regular guy was unavailable. If that's not living the rock and roll dream, then I don't know what is. And on the phone calling in from Athens, georgia, is Cannon. Thank you so much for joining us on Music in my Shoes.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, thank you so much for having me. Oh you're welcome.

Speaker 3:

Much for having me. Oh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Thanks for being on the show. We do appreciate it. I talked about you in a previous episode. I saw you play at the 40 Watt Club with Cracker. Thought that you did a good job and after the show, as I was leaving, I bumped into you. We talked for a few minutes. I took my picture with you. We talked for a few minutes. I took my picture with you. You seem like a normal guy that was living the rock and roll dream. And then this past weekend in Murphy, north Carolina, there you are getting ready to go on with Cracker when we talk again and it just is amazing that you're getting this opportunity Now. I know that they have a normal guy, pistol, who does the pedal steel guitar. So how many times have you had the opportunity to play with them?

Speaker 1:

Just those two times, honestly, which I'm super grateful to be able to do it at all. But yeah, I played with them at the 40 Watt that night at the Camp Inn, which is such a cool event that they do over there. And then Murphy was the first time I played like a full set, sort of Like I think they played like Seven Days Teen Angst Low, and then I got up and played the rest of the set and that was definitely a little bit. I mean I love, love Johnny Hickman's guitar playing, like Brian Howard's, like all those Lowry songs, like every part of that band is very cool and I'm a fan of it. So I think it went really well. I had a really good time doing it and everybody seemed to be having fun like on stage, like the energy on stage seemed really good. So when we played twice, I think I might play some shows with them later this year, but I don't have any specifics so I don't want to jinx it.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean, I understand. So, cannon, how long have you been playing the pedal steel guitar?

Speaker 1:

I've been. I got really interested in pedal steel during the pandemic just listening to like country music and stuff like that, and I got one in 2021. I believe so, two or three years now. The one that I played on with Cracker has kind of been my main instrument for the past couple years and I bought it December of 2022. That was the first time I got like a real nice instrument and um it's. I love the journey. I really love the instrument. Fun to be able to play it.

Speaker 3:

Did you play the regular guitar beforehand?

Speaker 1:

Yes, yeah, I grew up uh, I grew up my dad's musician and, um, I grew up playing guitar and bass and I played upright bass in school not college, but in high school and then I've always been interested in slide guitar I love Derek Trucks and guys like that but I didn't really get into pedal steel until I read David Crosby's autobiography during the pandemic and I was listening to country music at the time during the pandemic and I was listening to country music at the time and then I found out that jerry garcia played pedal steel on a lot of those, uh, csny songs, the crossroads, stills, national young records, and that really I was like, oh well, I want to figure this out and, um, the transition was not super intuitive, like the pedal steel is pretty complicated, but it's such a rewarding, it's like a puzzle almost, and I really really enjoy playing it it seems like as a guitar player, like it seems like you don't have to move your left hand as much as you do playing guitar, but it's so much more about the, the pedals, changing like the way that the strings are tuned and creating chords right for sure I watching, I mean especially watching people that really know how to play you'll, they'll just keep that left hand completely steady and they're doing everything with their feet or their levers, you know.

Speaker 1:

Know, which is still I mean even just getting a grasp on. You know, it takes a while. In terms of guitar, like you know, you talk about learning the fretboard and like knowing the fretboard and stuff, and everybody has different ways. I guess that they like learn that and that's kind of the where I still, even a couple of years in, find myself struggling on the steel is just because it's so reliant on your feet and your knees to turn the levers. Like you're kind of realizing where you are on that fretboard can be wildly different based on, like, what your feet are doing, you know. So definitely been a learning curve, but when it, when you get the right change, it's really sad, that's cool yeah, and I definitely think you know.

Speaker 3:

I saw the the 40 watt show and I thought you did a really good job. But the show at Murphy you were on fire. I mean you sounded great. It also sounded like the volume was raised a bit on it so you could really hear. It Looked like you and Johnny Hickman were really having a blast going back and forth. It was a lot of fun to watch well.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much. I really appreciate that and it was, I mean, it was so much fun to uh, to do like I, I really wanted to, intentionally because they had cracker has a pretty big catalog, um, and so I wanted to make sure that, like, I knew the set list but maybe I knew a couple other songs if, if they felt like throwing something out there and, um, you know, playing, like the man in me, by dylan with johnny hickman, like and lowry and and brian and carlton, like that entire band is made up of phenomenal musicians. But I think, once I got up there, though, like, uh, the nervousness kind of just turned into like very genuine, like gratefulness and excitement to be able to do it, to be able to do it, you know. Thanks for the kind words. I appreciate it.

Speaker 3:

You're welcome. I thought it was really cool because the the show openers. It was opened up by Chuck Meade from BR five, four, nine and Kevin Kinney driving and crying. And at one point, while you were playing, the two of them came out on the other side of the stage and they were watching you and listening to you. And you know, in my mind I could hear Kevin Kinney saying to Chuck Meade hey, this is just a fill-in guy that you know. Live in the rock and roll dream.

Speaker 1:

I think that when you can have real musicians, real people that are famous, people go out and buy their records and go to shows and concerts. But I was facing inward, like, instead of facing the audience, which is really helpful, to look at the band. And when you're sitting in for the first time, you really want to be able to watch the front man, like laurie, and then also you know, hickman on his songs and taking leads, like you want to be able to keep eye contact with those guys. And I saw exactly what you're saying. I saw kevin talking to Chuck and, like I am a massive driving and crying fan, like, uh, the one of the first guitar riffs that I really annoyed my parents and then roommates with for years was, you know, honeysuckle blue.

Speaker 1:

Like he's a phenomenal writer, a phenomenal guitar and yeah, it was just a crazy moment to uh, to be able to, to, I mean even just to play in front of those guys you know and to see them play and to be in the same, like it's just not something I ever thought I would be doing.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I saw everybody from Cracker out watching Kevin Kinney when he was playing and I saw you guys all on the side of the stage and enjoying the moment and I thought it was really cool about that particular concert with all the bands playing and really supporting each other and and watching and and enjoying it, because I think a lot of times bands, you know they go to perform and they just are kind of cued in what they have to do, but it looked like everybody was really enjoying it and it definitely came through. So, speaking of bands, you know you mentioned driving and crying, that you you liked them. What are some of the other bands you like listening to growing up?

Speaker 1:

Um, I was definitely a really big Wilco fans growing up. Uh, like the first four or five Wilco records from like AM being there, yankee hotel I love all those albums, um, definitely driving and crying. You knowing you know I was really into A lot of the Like singer-songwriter stuff that came out On New West Records which they have an office here in Athens when I live and they have Like internships, you know, involved at UGA Through the music business program which you know Larry teaches in and I was a student in and so. But they put out like, um, lily hyatt, like john hyatt's daughter's uh first couple records and I loved those when I was in high school. Um, but you know, also like a little more straight down the middle stuff like I love dylan, love john prine, love lucinda williams, like I. Um there was like the songwriting side of it, like Prine and Dylan and stuff and then, like you know, Kevin Kinney, dinosaur Jr, that was kind of like the guitar side of it I guess.

Speaker 3:

That definitely makes sense. Definitely makes sense. So tell us the story how you got acquainted with David Lowery and acquainted with Cracker, and how you actually have ended up to be a fill-in guy when, when they're regular guys not available.

Speaker 1:

Well, uh, it's kind of a funny. I like Lowery told like an abbreviated version of it at the show, which I thought was was really funny. But, um, I mean, I love, I love, uh, you know the the early cracker stuff, like the self-titled and like kerosene hat, um, but I also that record berkeley to baker's field is. I love that record. And um, I was taking lowry's class, uh, the, he teaches music business at the university of georgia and I was taking his class and then pistol that played, played with cracker, also plays with, say, webster, who was super busy. And I just knew that they were kind of because of scheduling conflicts. They're everyone's still super close friends, but because of scheduling conflicts that wasn't. Maybe they didn't have a pedal steel player and I kind of just like walked up to him in class and was like I would you know, I would love to. If you need a pedal steel player, I would love to try out. And um, there's like a nonprofit here in Athens called Nucci space. It's a really wonderful organization.

Speaker 1:

They have like rehearsal rooms. Yeah, yeah, nucci's is awesome and Lowry and I went to Nucci's and we played, you know, for a couple hours and it was really fun, like I got to play a lot of the guitar songs which went really well. And then, you know, I couldn't quite. I hadn't been playing Pedal Steel for that long and I wasn't quite there on Pedal Steel and he was just like, yeah, you know, keep working at it. Like thanks for asking, you know.

Speaker 1:

And then a year, almost exactly a year after that, was camping and my girlfriend works at the 40 Watt and she was selling merch and I just caught wind that I might need to show up with my Pedal Steel. And then Lowry was like you want to play Loser? Because I also play, I love, love, love the Grateful Dead and I play in the Grateful Dead cover band. And yeah, he was like you want to play Loser. And then I sat in on Loser and maybe been around the world. And another song about the rain was what we ended with, which I remember really enjoying that song at the 40 watt, ended with which I remember really enjoying that song at the 40 watt and um, yeah, it was just, it kind of went from there, but it what I did. I have a really bad habit in terms of bands of just being like, yeah, I can do that, I would love to do that when maybe I can't. Like I talked myself into a corner, but it kind of worked out. It took a year, but it kind of worked out.

Speaker 3:

Uh, with with record I definitely think it is a rock and roll dream. I mean, you know, have the guts to go up to someone and say, hey, if you ever need someone, I'm here, let me try. I think it's a great story. You know, you talk about the Grateful Dead. You talked about Crosby Stills and Nash before and you know Teacher Children, which Crosby Stills and Nash did Jerry Garcia does play the pedal steel on there and then what Crosby Stills and Nash did is they came over to help the Grateful Dead learn how to harmonize. Oh yeah, and that was that.

Speaker 3:

That was the payment. There was no money. It was hey, help us learn how to sing a little bit better. And that's what they did. And that's it. Yes, on American Beauty and Working Man's Dead, those albums that's with Crosby, stills and Nash teaching them while Jerry Garcia played Pedal Steel on Teacher Children.

Speaker 1:

So if you listen to Teacher Children and you hear the Pedal Steel. You cannot not hear it once you know that Jerry Garcia is playing that song oh yeah for sure. And the way that he plays pedal steel too, like the version of uh of the wheel that's on Garcia, like it's solo record. Um, he's just a beautiful player and like a beautiful I love crackers interpretation of that song. I love like playing that song with my buddies every week at our rehearsals. But like there's something really really powerful about um, I don't know, like all of the albums and music that I like is I'm not maybe it means I'm a little less cultured, but it's all kind of like american music. You know I don't listen to too much like world music, um, and that modern americana, like what the grateful dead built, what bands like that have been around for 20 and 30 years are trying to build, like I'm just very interested in that sort of thing, you know.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we have a little saying that. What do we say, jimmy?

Speaker 2:

Music is not a competition.

Speaker 3:

Music's not a competition. We say that that we like what we like, and it doesn't have to be that it's the best song, it doesn't have to mean it's the worst song. It's about what we like and what we're feeling at the time that we're listening to it. Because you know, you mentioned a bunch of different bands. You know, at one moment you might be like hey, I want to listen to some Dinosaur Jr, I want to listen to some Driving and Crying, and then you want to listen to some John Prine, because you're in a whole different feeling. And that's why I, you know, say music's not a competition. It's really about what's inside of you and what you're feeling at that time.

Speaker 1:

For sure. I think that's definitely cool. I really appreciate that. Look at it too. Like I was talking to, I think, some of the dudes in Cracker watching Driving and Crying set like the dynamic of that band. You know the fact that he can. He can bring it all the way down to just kevin and acoustic guitar and some of the most amazing lyrics you've ever heard, you know. And then he can bring it all the way up to him and the guy uh lauer, his guitar player right now, is a phenomenal guitar player, one of my favorite guitar players in the game, and you know they can go all the way up to them shredding almost sort of like dinosaur junior. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Like that, even in within bands, that dynamic of of uh expression is really cool to me yeah, and that guitarist has been playing with sturgill simpson, who is a pretty cool person who has just done a bunch of stuff with, uh, bob weir of the grateful dead and and some of the other members, so it's kind of funny you know talking about Grateful Dead and some of the other members. So it's kind of funny you know talking about the Grateful Dead and kind of seeing how things are layered and kind of connected in different ways. So what would you say your top five albums would be? And the reason that I ask is a lot of our listeners they like lists. When we talk about lists, they like to chime in on it, they like to send us emails or say something on the Facebook page and they're always interested in why people pick what they pick. So, if you don't mind, what would you say your top five favorite albums are?

Speaker 1:

All right, I hear this is. I've prepared my whole life for this question right here. No, I got to say in no particular order I really love Transcendental Blues by Steve Earle it it came out in 2000, which is also the year that I was born. Uh, that has no relation, I just think that's funny. But it's like a very like timeless, like the title track. Transcendental blues is amazing. Another town is like a great road song. I just really love, uh, that record I think I mentioned it earlier but being there by wilco it's a double album. It's their second album. I really love that record. A lot of great songs, kind of just like I loved uncle tupelo. Um, I say that like I always, like I was not alive when uncle tupelo was a thing but.

Speaker 1:

I love uncle tupelo and I kind of like the early wilco kind of grungy americana stuff. Yep, I really like speaking of americana, like car wheels on a gravel road by lucinda williams. I gotta put that one in there because, uh, that record is truly phenomenal and I kind of think that kind of invented the whole genre that I find myself at work in right now, like the modern americana thing. I don't think would happen without car wheels on the gravel road. That record and then the last two I wrote down were two live records, because I really like live music, and one of them was I can't remember which volume of the basement tapes it is, but the Dylan 75 record, the Rolling Thunder Review. I'm a really big Dylan fan. I saw him a couple weeks ago here in Athens. But that record, the 75, there's a Scorsese documentary about it too but just the big band Dylan with like Pedal Steel, steel, a bunch of electrics, kind of like a almost like vaudeville circus act tour.

Speaker 1:

I love that album. And then, uh, without a net, by the grateful dead, um, it's got the the eyes of the world that granford mersalis plays saxophone on, and uh, that's probably my favorite grateful dead recording ever. And uh, you know I love like the late 80s, like 90, like brent the keyboard player, I don't know that that without an out. I bought that cd, uh, on tour and then just listened to it in my car. A lot like two discs, and it's just got some of my favorite versions of those songs, like a great cassidy, a great dear mr fantasy, great half step and then the Best Eyes of the World Ever. So yeah, I'm a little wordy here. But two live records, three studio albums, those are probably my top five.

Speaker 3:

That's a pretty good top five, I will say, without a net. It was recorded from fall 1989 until spring 1990, includes that song that you mentioned. That is fantastic. That whole show at the Nassau Coliseum I think it was March 29th of 1990, where Brantford plays with them the entire second set, that sounds right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, what a great show. And then, if we take one step back to the Bob Dylan, I absolutely love that album. I think that album is fantastic the basement tapes where it has Rolling Thunder review and I actually did see Bob Dylan in Athens a few weeks ago myself and they had the Rolling Thunder review shirt, the 75 shirt. They were selling it. I actually bought that. It's the first time I've ever bought a shirt that didn't have anything to do with the current tour. I bought the 1975 shirt it even says 75 on the back of it because that is a great thing and everything you said about it. You are 100% correct. That documentary is fantastic. The tour looked fantastic. All of the live recordings that I've heard from it, I think that's probably my favorite. Bob Dylan period 75, rolling Thunder Review. Hey Cannon, we really appreciate you coming and joining us today. Good luck with your continued career in rock and roll. I hope that you're able to play some more shows because, like I said, you did a fantastic job.

Speaker 2:

You got any gigs coming up?

Speaker 1:

I'll be playing Pedal Steel with the Grateful Dead cover band and then singing some of my original songs with my band, just under my own name, cannon Rogers.

Speaker 3:

Whoa, whoa, whoa. We've only known you as Cannon. David Lowery has only announced you as Cannon. Now we find out you have a second name.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, my last name is Rogers Cannon Rogers, which is my name. My mom's maiden name was Cannon. I didn't make it up, I promise. Especially given the whole pistol situation, it's kind of silly that my name is Cannon.

Speaker 2:

You're trying to one-up pistol, aren't you?

Speaker 1:

I'm not. I promise Some kid's going to show up next year named Bazooka, and he tells jokes also.

Speaker 3:

I love it. I love it. Hey, cannon, I really do appreciate it. I. I like I said you know, I thought you did a great job there in Athens. I can't talk, you know enough about it. I've told many people we, I talked about it on the show here, um, and then, you know, meeting you after, and you were so humble and so excited that you got that opportunity and I just happened to bump into you at the right time. And then, you know, when I saw you, uh, this past weekend, and when you saw me and you're like, oh, I know somebody. I just felt like, wait a minute, this is the backup pedal steel guitarist for Cracker and he's saying that he, he knows somebody, that and that person's me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was like thank God you're here.

Speaker 3:

You know what I mean. Yeah, I mean we had a good time. It was a lot of fun, Really enjoyed the show and I hope that you get the opportunity to do it more.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you so much, Jim. Yeah, likewise so good to see you this past weekend and I'm going to talk to you, man. Thank you, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, you're welcome, no problem at all. And again, ladies and gentlemen, that was Cannon living the rock and roll dream. Pedal steel guitar, sometimes for cracker Jimmy. Do you know what time it is?

Speaker 2:

Music in my shoes mailbag.

Speaker 3:

Last episode I mentioned friend of the show, chris Cassidy, took a picture of Joe Strummer back in 2002. So Chris wanted to give more information about what actually took place because he did not want us to think that he ran into Joe Strummer in a deli or out on the street. Okay, so Joe played five nights at St Ann's Warehouse in Brooklyn, new York, with his band, the Mescaleros. My friend's Radio 4 opened up one of the nights. I got a photo pass. Joe was waiting for his band to arrive because they were late. I walked up to him sitting on the side of the stage and asked if I could take a couple of pics of him and he said yes. Thank you, chris, for setting the scene straight. I'm not exactly sure what I said, but this adds a lot more context to the whole what was going on and that must have been pretty cool. Um, you know Radio 4. Yeah, I don't know a lot about them.

Speaker 3:

I really do like their 2002 song, save Our City. I like the song Dance to the Underground. It's pretty good as well. They really remind me of Gang of Four, for sure, when I listen to them. But Save Our City is a song I've been listening to since 2002 when Chris kind of got me hooked up to that song. Really really good song. Don't have much for the mailbag this week, but please like and follow us on the Music In my Shoes Facebook page or contact us at musicinmyshoes at gmailcom.

Speaker 2:

Music In my Shoes Mailbag.

Speaker 3:

That's it for episode 24 of Music in my Shoes. I'd like to thank Cannon, the sometimes pedal steel guitar player for Cracker, for joining us today. I'd also like to thank Jimmy Guthrie, show producer and owner of Arcade 160 Studios located here in Atlanta, Georgia, and to Vic Thrill for our podcast music. This is Jim Boge, and I hope you learned something new or remembered something old. We'll meet again on our next episode. Until then, live life and keep the music playing. I love you.

Music Memories and Movie Scene Nostalgia
Pedal Steel Guitar Player Rocks Out
Musical Influences and Rock Concert Memories
Connecting Through Music and Collaboration
Top Five Albums Discussion
Music in My Shoes Mailbag Episode