Pawparazzi and Our Silver Screen and TV Celebrity Canine Heroes

This episode shares fun facts about our long time beloved canine TV and movie heroes both real and animated! Plus we dish the info on some behind the scenes news too!  

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:03

Grab your cup, hug your cup, and join us for Peace in the Pack's Canine Coffee Pop. Hi, I'm Nancy T, your canine behavioral specialist and owner of Peace in the Pack. And today we have a fun one coming up. You know how, you know, many people have their favorites on the red carpet? Well, how about some special heart throbs that walk the red carpet, some special celebrities, the four-legged kind. They melt everybody's heart. We'll be talking about the special heroes of the canine variety, of the big silver screen and TV. And even in animation, all these guys have a special place in our heart. And since it's a special fun day, we have a special fun friend. Hello, Jamie. Hello, Nick. My assistant. Hello, she's back again. Hello. Back from one of the fun ones. That's right. And it's been a long time.

SPEAKER_01 0:54

We both had such crazy schedules. I know it's been hard trying to coordinate our schedules to get to do a podcast.

SPEAKER_00 1:00

That's true. And I think everybody can relate to that. Things are just so fast-paced and hectic these days. So I'm going to start this off with something that not a lot of people know. In fact, I don't think you know this, Jane. What's that? The very first movie dog and what breed he was and who he was. And who would come to mind if you think the very first big name dog? Who do I think is the first dog? The the first dog who made it in the movies or film or TV or uh we'll say movies. Rintinten. Right? It sounds like Rintin Tin, right? But no, the very first movie dog was a German Shepherd, though, I will say that. Okay. But his name was Strongheart. And he goes all the way back to the silent movies. Seriously? Yeah. He starred in silent movies back in 1921. Not just one, one, two, three, four, five, five silent movies from 1921 to 1925. His very first film was called The Silent Call. It was a big smash hit debut film, by the way. Really? And then there was Brawn of the North, The Lovemaster. Brawn of the North was 1922, Lovemaster, 1924, White Fang, 1925, and North Star 1925 as well. And the the cool thing with Strongheart was he was actually a police dog in Berlin, in Germany. And he was a hero helping the Red Cross there. Really? So he did all of that heroic work. And they just said this is an intelligent dog. And I guess just he was very agile and yeah, very quick thinking. And they put him in the movies. And he was the very first movie dog. So he made a tremendous hit. Right. Especially since it was silent films, you know, and here comes a dog. And he led the way for Rint and Tin. Okay. The next German Shepherd, which by the way, that breed had to have been highly sought after in that era. So in 19 in the 1920s, Rin Tentin starred in actually, this is kind of cool. His first movie, he didn't even play a dog in the first movie. What did he play? He he actually such a good actor. He actually played a wolf. Get out of here. I'm serious. Wait, they had a German Shepherd dressed as a wolf. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. And they pulled it off. And they pulled it off. And Rinton Tin pulled it off again. A great actor. I hope he got an Oscar. I'm telling you. The movie was called The Man from Hell's River, 1922. So that goes back pretty far too. Right. He did so well in that, he ended up with his own TV show. But but he single, single pawedly, instead of single-handedly, actually saved uh Warner Brothers at the time they were really going under. And it took it took Rin Tin Tin, took another heroic thing, but in real life, actually saved the uh saved the movies.

SPEAKER_01 3:47

It's kind of it's kind of sad if you think about it. Like it took a dog to save a human business. He did it.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

And he actually he did so well. And he starred in over two dozen films. Wow. Right? And it was Warner Brothers was dying at the time. And look where it led after that. Right, right. That you know, that that company took off, all because of Renton. And that not not many people know that. And then of course he got his own TV show in the 50s. He his legacy was his own uh lineage. You know how a lot of these you know movie dogs have other stand-ins and things like that. His uh his own his own descendants played him. Rint and tin two, rintin three, rent and four, and I think there was a five, I'm not sure, but definitely two, three, and four played him as the years, you know, moved on and he got older. So that's kind of cool. But again, another another hero. So and he did so well in the box office. He's another rescue dog. He was rescued from the World War II battlefield in France by an American soldier. He was a rescue. In fact, his nickname was Rinty. Rinty, that's cute. And he was also a major silent film star, but he saved Warner Brothers from early bankruptcy. It is amazing. And they also, both he and Strongheart, popularized German Shepherds as family pets, as we've mentioned in those days. So they made a big star in the industry and in people's hearts. Right. Um, but there's so many breeds that have made a difference in movies, and good or bad, as far as sometimes they're overbred, and sometimes it just brings that popularity to people to take notice of the breed or the breed mixture, you know? So that's kind of cool how that that's the the origin of the whole industry. Right. The stronghearted maintenance. So two shepherds, good for them. We were talking about before we were mentioned dogs that have inspired us. What were some of the early dogs that you watched as a kid, whether it was animation or real dogs, or you know, dogs that you kind of made a mark on your heart early on? Um, definitely Petey.

SPEAKER_01 5:49

Petey! Yeah. Yes. Oh, Amy fell in love with that breed.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

Yeah. Oh, that was a great showcase for a pit bull. Really, it was with a lot of love and fun and kids and you know, all the fun antics, and he did it like so comically, but with love with the kids. My one of my favorites uh was Benji. I love Benji. Benji, by the way, was a shelter dog, and Benji's name was Higgins, and he was adopted and rescued and um starring in that movie. I always love Benji. Benji had that Benji's a terrier mix, and my penny, who is a terrier mix, actually looks a lot like Benji. That was I fell in love with Benji early on. He just that nondescript terrier breed. But yeah, he was Higgins and he was a shelter dog. How cute. Yeah. And I loved a lot of these movie dogs or shelter dogs, like Max. Yes. That Ron Howard had rescued for The Grinch with Jim Carrey. And then he was also not only starring in the movie and did beautifully in it, but also was adopted as well. As all these dogs get adopted. Oh, Max the Grinch, yeah. Yeah. I heard that. Yeah. And you were mentioning another shelter dog was a big, big movie star.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

Oh, Toto. Todo, right? Toto for the voz, yes. Did you know Toto was actually a female playing Toto? No. Yep, named Terry. Terry, Terry the Terrier. Terry the Terry. Terry the Terrier.

SPEAKER_00 7:14

She's a Karen Terrier.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

How bad that?

SPEAKER_01 7:17

Yeah. She was a female. And I don't know how much how many people know this, but do you know how much she was paid? How much? $125 a week. What? More than the munchkins. No way. She got time. Wow. Well, she did a lot of work because she was almost in every scene. She did a lot of running around. Did a lot of running around at Yellow Brick Road and keeping them out of the poppy seeds and following Darth. Dodging dodging witches and that's right.

SPEAKER_00 7:43

And everywhere Dorothy went, she's right by her. Yeah, right. Yeah, I know. That was kind of freaky. But yeah, how about that? So that was Terry. So all these are like I'm oh, and there's also another shelter dog from Frasier. TV show Fraser. Oh, yeah. Is it it? What was his name? I forget. Wasn't his name Max too? So his name was Moose. I'm not sure what his name was in the show. In fact, I should look that up. I think it was Max. Was it Max? I'm pretty sure his name is Max.

SPEAKER_01 8:15

Let me look it up.

SPEAKER_00 8:16

But his real name was Moose. But wait, he was a notoriously hyperactive stray who his first trainers found unmanageable. Is that crazy?

SPEAKER_01 8:24

And he was very common in the show.

SPEAKER_00 8:26

Right? He eventually uh was transferred to an animal talent agency and shots at TV superstar him. So somebody realized, you know, this is not a just a you know an unmanageable dog. This is a dog who's misunderstood. And hello, it's where behavior comes in. All right. Somebody understood him. And then there you go, the rest is history. And he did a beautiful job on that show, and he was very content. And again, another shelter dog. Oh, his name, his name is Eddie. Eddie! Eddie, Eddie. I thought it was Max. I thought it was Max. Frankie, I don't know why I was thinking Eddie. I know it's a male name, but his name when he was adopted from the shelter was Moose. Yes. But I like Eddie. I'm sure I'm sure they stuck with Eddie after that. But see that? That's proof positive. Second chances. They need second chances. And these are trainers that didn't know how to read him, and then somebody did. Somebody read him well. Okay, I have a question for you.

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Yeah. Let me see if you knew this little tidbit of a fact. What is the correlation between the Buster Brown dog and Petey from the little rascals? I don't know. The Buster Brown dog named Tig, short for tiger, is Petey's father. Really? Tig? Was Petey's father? Yes.

SPEAKER_00 9:43

How bad that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:45

And Tig was actually an orange and brown American pit bull terrier. It says um when Buster Brown was adapted into a live action silent um shorts during the 1920s. Tig was played by Pal the Wonder Dog. The exact same pit bull terrier who went on to sire puppies that played Petey in the Little Rascals. Yeah. How about that? That is amazing. I love that. You never would have thought that the Buster Brown dog was any connection. Any connection to the Little Rascals. Like six degrees of separation in dog in dogs.

SPEAKER_00 10:20

But one degree. Yeah. Right? Did you know that dogs also have stunt doubles? So just like human actors, many um the TV and film dogs have stunt doubles that perform the action scenes. And that's due to the fact that trainers in this way could teach individual dogs one specific trick. Okay so it doesn't fall to the dog to do a million things. Because that is asking a lot of things.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

It is a lot. It is a lot.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

You know, you have a dog who's more personable on camera, can handle things well. Well, actually just dealing with the set is a feat in and of itself. Following the actors, being part of all that. That's a lot for a dog. Yeah. Taking all that in consideration. And I'm sure hopefully they have time constraints with that too. But then if you have them doing physicalities, you do need a dog that does certain things and certain things well only.

unknown 11:07

Right.

SPEAKER_00 11:07

Right? So that would make so much sense that they would have their own stunt devils. Not so much for safety, because I'm sure they're not going to put these dogs to that type of strenuous because you know dogs really are never hurt in these types of scenarios. But just to do something well, um, and have done so in the past. Now I'm sure with computer animation it's a different story these days. But back then, that's how that was handled. And that that makes sense because the trainers can concentrate on specific areas. Exactly. And let the lead dog do their do their leading in the role to capture that Emmy or Oscar. Which is really kind of cool. Um, but how about how about like cartoon dogs? I always love Scooby-Doo, you know, is it with his Scooby Snacks? Do you know Scooby-Doo's real name? Scooby. Scooby Doo. Yeah, because of Shaggy's. Once in a while, Shaggy would say Scoobert. Or like, you know, come on, do this, Scooby, you know, or whatever. Like every now and again, it's not in every episode, obviously, but it's in several episodes that it stayed in my mind.

SPEAKER_01 12:07

But did you know that his name was inspired by Frank Sinatra? No, really? Frank Sinatra? Really? Yes, Frank Sinatra. How does that come about? So you know how um he goes strangers in the night? Right? Doobie-dooby-doo. Yeah, oh, doobie-dooby-doo. That's how they got Scooby-Doo. Scooby-Doo originated from doobie-dooby-doo. That's funny.

SPEAKER_00 12:30

Wow, how about that? Yeah. That is really funny. Um, another one of my favorites was underdog. Honestly, I think it's underdog is the reason I do what I do. Because I love that it's one of those classic cartoons that keep kind of popping up every now and again in different generations. But it's an old cartoon that he's like, actually, I'm not even sure the breed. Can you look that up real quick? I kind of saw it as an every breed, but I know it has to be a specific breed. But the thing I love about underdog was he was exactly that, an underdog. And you know, obviously, you know, I live for the underdogs and to help the underdogs, but he was a hero named Underdog. He was really cute. But I'm not sure what his uh he's a beagle. He's a beagle. He's a beagle. Like Snoopy. Snoopy the yep. He looks so he looks so different than Snoopy, but yeah, he's he's a beagle of a beagle. Okay, but it's the underdog mentality that I loved, and he's a hero throughout. And yeah, that's stuck with me for life, really. How about you? Do you have uh oh the way you said Petey? Scooby, Snoopy. Um, there's so many good ones, actually. They're almost like they're they're so real that they're almost almost not animated. And speaking of which of animations, since I love Mickey Mouse normally, just one of my cartoon icons. I love Pluto. And Pluto is what breed you were looking up earlier? Uh Pluto is a just a next breed. He's a mixed breed. Oh, Mickey's dog, Pluto. And then there's that controversy of Goofy. Is Goofy? We know Goofy's a dog, we know that, but he puts himself like in an anthropomorphic situation where he feels like he's part of the he's part of the cast as a more of a person. Right. You know, like Minnie and Mickey, even though they're mice, but there's a theory going around that he's a black and tan coon hound. Oh, um, Goofy. Goofy. Oh, wow. Yeah, he's a coon hound. Okay, but yet Pluto, but Pluto's a mixed breed. Correct. Oh, that's so cute. So it's like Mickey, Mickey went to the shelter.

SPEAKER_01 14:30

Somebody asked you a question. Aww. Yeah. If you were to if you were asked to pick an animated dog that best describes you or or or has like your personality. Underdog. That's him, that's me.

SPEAKER_00 14:46

I remember the I remember the theme song. I should find it. That's so inspiring. You know, wanting to be strong like a hero and just keep going and going and going and helping the underdogs. So yeah, I still stand by that all these years. How about you?

SPEAKER_01 15:07

For me, I would say Brian. Brian! From the Family Guy.

SPEAKER_00 15:15

From Family Guy. He's supposed to be a retriever.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

He is supposed to be a golden retriever.

SPEAKER_00 15:20

He doesn't look like a retriever.

SPEAKER_01 15:21

But I'm picked Brian because you don't like the sarcasm. I don't like sarcasm. Brian is very sarcastic. I know. I mean, I like sarcasm.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Well, that's the thing. I like sarcasm as a literary, you know, in a comedic way, yes. But not if it's just point-blank mean.

SPEAKER_01 15:44

But I think they use it in a comedic way. Huh? I think I use it in a comedic way. I mean, I think it's funny. Well, I think you do.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

I think I'm funny. It's meant to be comedic, so yeah, and then TV shows, sarcasm. I mean, look at Dorothy and Golden Girl. She was sarcastic and that was funny. She was very sarcastic. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, a lot of stand-up comics are nothing but sarcastic and they're hysterical. You know, and you call me Adorn every time I'm sarcastic. If it's just mean, then it's not sarcastic. But anyway, so I can see where you can identify with Brian. Although I still don't see him as a golden. Yeah, he is white. I don't know. Although there are white golden because I'm working with one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

You know, the cream. Yeah, it claims to be like a golden retriever mix.

SPEAKER_00 16:30

Or there's the English creams that are white. Right. You know, very, very uh light tan and all that kind of stuff. So it could be. Okay, let's see. Oh, Bluey! Bluey! Can't forget Bluey.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

Can't forget Bluey.

SPEAKER_00 16:44

What are you to see again? Bluey is a blue healer.

SPEAKER_01 16:47

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 16:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:49

Plus, they have a lot of their friends on this show. Is it similar to like an Australian cattle dog or an Australian? He's a herder. Sure.

SPEAKER_00 16:57

Yeah. Blue healers are definitely herding dogs. And they also have on that show they have a bulldog, I think named Winston. There's a poodle. There's um I think there's an Afghan. If I remember correctly, I don't know. Yeah. But I know there's they're all their friends are different breeds. It's really cute. How about the the saddest ones? No, I I can I can't watch them. Marley and me, beautiful lab. Can't watch that one. Hachi. Oh my goodness. No, Akita, which is a true story. Again, heroic waiting for his person for 10 years. Loyal. Yep. Can't watch that movie though, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:33

Old yeller. I can't do old yeller.

SPEAKER_00 17:35

Right, right. Yeah, these are like I love the inspirational ones, and I and they're wonderful dogs, but it's too sad. But you know, their intentions are so good, like waiting for that person. It was a great movie. But even though without a set ending, you cry at Benji. I did cry at Benji. When I was little, I did. So yeah, you're right. So I think the others are way beyond my my scope. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:00

So my chair broke, and I'm sitting on the bed with your dog. He's not very happy. He just wants his bed back. He just like got up. He wants his bed back. Fixed his blankets and turned his back on me. And when look, he's praying. His little paws are across.

SPEAKER_00 18:18

Yeah, he's praying. I leave.

unknown 18:20

I think you're right.

SPEAKER_00 18:22

Hey, we forgot to talk about Lassie, the ultimate loyal collie. When my dog Sugar, I'll never forget. I came home. We walked in the house? Yes. I came home one day. This is amazing, guys, because like this isn't something you can even plan. Right? You saw it. Yeah, yeah. Came up, we came home, opened the door, Jamie was with me, and there's sugar sitting on the couch watching the end, the the end of Lassie. I don't even remember why Lassie was on. I guess the TV, I just had the TV on. Yeah. And it was like one of those classic channels, I think it was. I think it was TV Land or something. TV Land or something. And she was glued and she had her pop-up like Lassie did. I'm like, what's her with the same tilt. With the same tilt. And of course I didn't have my camera. Of course I didn't have my, I don't even think we had the phones then.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

No.

SPEAKER_00 19:07

And it was like, I just wanted so much to take a picture of that, but we both saw it firsthand.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

But the thing is, if we would take the picture, she would have stopped.

SPEAKER_00 19:14

She would have stopped and looked at us and jumped off the couch. It was like one of those amazing, amazing moments. But it's it's a credit to her and it's a credit to Lassie that she got her attention. But Lassie, by the way, I'm saying her, but Lassie was actually a male.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Why are you doing that? I know it's off topic. So I came downstairs from working the other day, right? And I look over at the sofa.

SPEAKER_00 19:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

And I see the cat on my mom's lap, and I see my mom holding the iPad. I said, What are you doing? She said, The cat wanted to watch YouTube. I said, the cat wanted to watch YouTube. She said, Yes. He sat on the iPad, looked at me, and I had to put on the mice. Ah, are you serious? And that's where he sat for 45 minutes. So it's not just dogs that like to watch TV, apparently.

SPEAKER_00 19:59

Yeah, sounds like it. That's for sure. Okay, so info on Lassie. We all think, obviously, by the name that it's a female. Just like he said, uh, Toto was a male name, but was played by a female. Lassie had the female name, but played by only a male. Lassie was played predominantly by a dog named Pal, P-A-L. And then much like Rin Tin Tin, the other Lassies were also Pal's descendants.

unknown 20:26

Really?

SPEAKER_00 20:26

So that's kind of cool. Yeah, it was uh Lassie Jr., um Spook, Baby, Meyer, and Hei Hei. Yep. But Pal is the original Lassie, so pretty much Laddie, but yeah. We'll accept it. Oh. Um, circling back to Clifford. Oh, Clifford, the big red dog.

SPEAKER_01 20:48

He's actually a giant weasla. A Viesla. He doesn't look anything like a Viesla. Yeah. It says, well, he's famously known as the Big Red Dog. His design is structurally based on a giant Viesla.

SPEAKER_00 21:00

Are you serious? Yeah. That's hers. I don't see that. Interesting. Yeah. That's interesting. Okay, that um, how about um how about Bluey? Let's not forget uh not Blueie, um, blue from blue's clues. Oh, we can't forget blue.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

Used to love blue from blue clues. I know. And guess what? What know what his braid is? What? Also based off of a beagle. Beagles are popular. Mm-hmm. Beagles are a very good They're saying it could be either a Beagle based off of a Beagle or how you look at it, a basset hound. Oh, okay. It's a one of the two.

SPEAKER_00 21:36

Okay. Oh, and you're mentioning the Doxin mix for Odie. Oh, Odie! I can see that. What did you say? It was Doxin and uh was it Beagle? Let me double check that. I don't think so. Um Odie Odie Odie. Oh, I just saw a thing about Clifford. This kind of makes sense. You're right about the Vigla, but it's saying Clifford is a giant. Cross between a lab and a Visa. Oh, okay. Labrador Retriever. That makes a little more sense for the bulkiness.

SPEAKER_01 22:06

Yeah, yeah. Um, Odie, um uh Dachshund and um Beagle mix. Again with the Beagle. Beagles are popular.

SPEAKER_00 22:14

Wow. Isn't that something? Yeah. Can I think of any dogs? I mean, there's so many. Oh, um the pug from Men in Black was named Frank.

SPEAKER_01 22:25

Oh, Garfield. Garfield says that Odie is a pure clown. Huh? A pure clown. Instead of a pure bread.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Oh, a pure clown. Of course he's gonna say that. Yeah, Frank was in Men in Black. He's that little pug. Uh-huh. That little pug, his name is Frank, and I think he was also he was also a shelter dog. See here.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

So would you ever put any of your dogs in show business?

SPEAKER_00 22:51

If given the opportunity. Um I mean, I I'd love for them to be highlighted, but I guess it depends on what it is. I'd much rather be like a commercial than a full-length movie. That's a lot of time. Right. Doing something like that. But they need to be young. You know, these older dogs, it's really not for them. We haven't really taken notice of the age, but I I bet you primarily most of these dogs were were young, were younger when they did these shows.

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Um, here's a little question for you. Trivia. In 101 Dalmatians, do you know how many dots were drawn across the entire film?

SPEAKER_00 23:35

No.

SPEAKER_01 23:37

I mean spots.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Um 6,469,952 spots were drawn. On the dogs? As a combined. Wow. That is an amazing throughout throughout the entire film. That's how many as how many spots on the dogs were drawn each individually. Wow. From frame from frame to frame.

SPEAKER_00 23:58

That is crazy. Isn't that crazy? Another breed that took off after that for a while.

SPEAKER_01 24:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah. Don't forget Beethoven. Remember Beethoven? Oh yeah, and Turner and Hooch. Turner and Hooch too. Beethoven was uh the gentle giant in the movie Beethoven and uh St. Bernard. What is it, Paxie?

SPEAKER_01 24:21

I think he's dreaming.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

He's on the side.

SPEAKER_01 24:26

Paxie, we hear you. He's dreaming. Right from Ren and Snimpy. It's based off of a chihuahua. I could see that because are very hyper and and jumpy. Yep, yep. I could see that too. Huckaberry is a cartoon dog. That's who I was thinking of.

SPEAKER_00 24:46

Huckaberry Hound. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

And he's a hound. He's a hound. No, he's actually a pit bull.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Okay, the sarcasm. And there it goes. And there it went. Oh, let's not forget Astro from the Jetsons. Here's your Jetson. You know what Astro was? Similar to Scooby.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

A Great Dane. A great dame. Yeah. Had I Barbaro had a thing for Great Dans, I think. Maybe. I figured Scooby. That's a Hannah Barbaro um cartoon and.

SPEAKER_00 25:27

Lady and the Tramp, let's not forget them. Yes. Where were they?

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Uh Lady and the Tramp? Were they cocker spaniels? Um, I can let you know in just a second. Pull up some of my research. Can't say we don't hang out too much.

SPEAKER_00 25:55

Oh my hey! What kind of coffee do you have today? You bypassed that and went straight into this. I still have my latte. This has like a cinnamon flavor. It's really good.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

What do you have? Um, I have a caramel iced coffee. Oh, yummy. So, I found your answer. Yes, you did. So Lady from Lady and the Tramp is a purebred American cocker spaniel. I was right! And tramp is a mixed breed mutt.

SPEAKER_00 26:29

Awww. See, but I was right. I knew there was a cocker spaniel in there. Yeah, and he's a and he's a mixed breed. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 26:35

All American.

SPEAKER_00 26:38

Cool.

SPEAKER_01 26:39

Did you know when Pluto uh first appeared um in 1930 he had no name? No, I did not know that. Yeah. When did they name him? What did it say? Shortly after Pluto was discovered. In the 1930s. As a ninth planet. Directly after Pluto. That's crazy. Well Disney named a pup surely after astronomers discovered and named a ninth planet Pluto in 1930.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

So Hooch from Tournament Hooch was a French Mastiff. I could see that, right? Yeah. He was a French Mastiff. His real name was Beasley. Oh cute. Mm-hmm. Oh, so even though he dies in the movie, he actually lived to the age of 14. Did he really? Yeah. Can you believe that Cujo was one of two Saint Bernards that were used as Cujo? Like, how ironic. I didn't think I Saint Bernard.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

I never would have- I mean, I've seen it, but I never realized it was a Saint Bernard.

SPEAKER_00 27:36

Yeah. Actually, not two. Five. There were five different Saint Bernards to use to for that movie, Cujo. And it's so crazy, right? Because they're the temperament, right? It's just not a Cujo. But uh yeah. Here it says, despite the terror that unfolds on screen, the dogs themselves were useless at being scary on the New York Film Academy website. That's kind of cool. Wow. And when they couldn't get all the different dogs, every now and again their stand-in, their heroic stand-in, took over, and that was a Roti. So the Rottweiler stood in for several scenes as well. So it took five St. Bernards and a Rottweiler to make one cujo. Oh wow. Isn't that crazy? Yeah. Dogs are amazing, telling you. They are so amazing. Question for you.

SPEAKER_01 28:28

Yeah. So would you rather have a dog's sense of smell for one day or a dog's pure unfiltered joy every time someone opens the front door? The unfiltered joy. I would yeah, I would too.

SPEAKER_00 28:44

I'd be fascinated to know how they smell.

SPEAKER_01 28:46

Not at least they would just tell how they use their sense of smell.

SPEAKER_00 28:49

Right?

SPEAKER_01 28:50

I think it would be a little overwhelming. Oh the scent, the sense, the the scent.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

Yeah, I don't think we could take it for even a minute. We'd be we'd be too over overstimulated to talk about them being overstimulated. But the joy, I think that should just go on and on. Because it does.

SPEAKER_01 29:06

Here's another one. Another would you rather? Okay. Would you rather your dog suddenly be able to speak fluent English for exactly five minutes or be able to understand your dog's thoughts for the rest of its life?

SPEAKER_00 29:21

Oh, I would love to have just know their thoughts. You know, which I try to do.

SPEAKER_01 29:26

That's my entire though. I would like to, I would I would like to hear them speak as out of curiosity. But I would also want to know what they're thinking for the rest of their life.

SPEAKER_00 29:37

But I strive to do that as it is, yeah, you know? So yeah, I I would love to opt for the English version, but five minutes is definitely not enough. And I certainly wouldn't want to sacrifice knowing their thoughts for the rest of their life either. Exactly. That is a tough question, though, but yeah, it has to be for the rest of their life. Well, here's one.

SPEAKER_01 29:56

Yeah. If humans were named the way we name dogs based on physical traits or random foods, what would your dog name be? Oh, I know what I would pick for mine. You would? What? Yeah. I would call chicken cutlet. Chicken cutlets, what? I like chicken cutlets. And that would be pizza.

SPEAKER_00 30:18

That would definitely be pizza.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

Or talkie. I call you talkie.

SPEAKER_00 30:27

What else would I call you? You really want to know? No. Hey. Hey, now who's being sarcastic? Hey now. Oh, you know what we forgot to mention? Slinky from Toy Story. Oh yeah. You know what breed he is? Dachshund? Yep. Dachshon. And do you know which breed that Queen Elizabeth II was famously attached to? Certain breed? She kept getting so many of those dogs. Um, the uh wait a minute. She had 30 of them throughout her life. 30. Is it the King Charles? No. That's a good call though. Um the Welsh Corgi. Okay, if your dog could speak for maybe just 10 or 15 seconds, what do you think they would say about you very quickly?

SPEAKER_01 31:14

Oh. Oh, I got it. I see her with another dog. Cheating on me, I see.

SPEAKER_00 31:22

That is probably true, because you dogs sit a lot.

SPEAKER_01 31:25

Exactly. You have a lot of dog sense. What would yours say?

SPEAKER_00 31:30

Don't leave the room without me.

SPEAKER_01 31:32

Or he would say, Don't you dare bring another dog in this house.

SPEAKER_00 31:38

Too many. But he knows that's gonna be ignored. Exactly. Now it's more like, stay with me, come with me, let me go with you. I want to stay with you.

SPEAKER_01 31:48

Yes. All of which I abide by. Are you going to Aunt Nan's house? If so, I'm coming with you. They love going to Aunt Nan's house. It's true, that's true. They absolutely love your dogs.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

My Ava did. My Ava loved your penny.

SPEAKER_00 32:01

I know.

SPEAKER_01 32:02

But she because she never got a chance to meet Pax or Hero.

SPEAKER_00 32:06

No. No.

SPEAKER_01 32:07

But Bella did. Bella did. Yeah. Although my Pancho and your sugar had a little love affair going on.

SPEAKER_00 32:13

Yeah, they did. They did. And my sugar was a border colour shepherd.

SPEAKER_01 32:17

And my Pancho was a chihuahua. Yeah, so that was a definitely mutton Jap. So cute that was. That was such a cute sight. He would get so happy when he saw sugar. His tail would be wagging. He'd be so excited.

SPEAKER_00 32:29

Max now has one of his best friends, his bo, a Doberman. Yes. So it's really cute. See all the I was called them two the two gentlemen. Yes. They're very they have the same temperament. They're both very sweet. It's a greyhound and a Doberman, and they're both the same size, same everything. They literally come up to each other. They literally sniff. Maybe they'll run up against the fence together a couple times and then they're done. Yeah. It's like nice to see you.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

Have a great day. I don't think your Jenny liked Poncho too much because she would see him. She would like look at him, turn her head and walk away.

SPEAKER_00 32:57

Oh, my uh my shepherd hand. Yeah. She was older. Yeah, she didn't like him too much. I think Poncho was a little too spirited for her. Yes. Yeah. It's funny how they all are, you know? Oh, here's a question. What is a weird specific habit your dog has that makes you think, is my dog actually a cat? Oh, I know the answer to that. Oh, I know.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Well, when I got um my Ava, she was what, 12 weeks old when I got it? Yeah. And at the time I had two cats. So Ava was never running another dog. That's oh, that's true. Growing up. So when she would play with the cat, you know cats would hit. Yeah. Well, that's how my Eva would play. If she was playing with you, she'd paw at you. She was also a boxer mix. She was a boxer mix.

SPEAKER_00 33:40

So that's that's a boxer in her, too. But it was the cat's influence. I'm like, what were you two doing? I know what my answer would be for my packs. Absolutely sleep. Yeah. Sleep, sleep, sleep. I can't even think of anything that Penny reminds me of. Penny's all pure dog. She's all pure dog. If your dog took over your bank account for one day, what would be the largest charge on your statement? For Penny, it would be food, food, and more food. Any type of food. That's Ava. Anything edible. It's all gonna be on there. If it's ingestible, she's eating it. She's eating it. For Pax, I can't imagine. He's just so easy go.

SPEAKER_01 34:16

He wants toys.

SPEAKER_00 34:17

Yeah, he doesn't know.

SPEAKER_01 34:18

Well, he can't have Penny keeps taking them.

SPEAKER_00 34:20

Well, but yeah, but he doesn't really like throw it for one second. He's not because Henny takes it. No, but not anymore. She's got her own little lamptops and her own little lambs and stuff. I I don't know. I I I'm I'm at a loss. I really have to think about that.

SPEAKER_01 34:36

No, his biggest expense would be a bed. Yeah. That would be his big he like forget the food, forget the treats, forget the toys. He wants a bed.

SPEAKER_00 34:46

That's right. As we speak right now. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

And I have to say the bed you got him is actually pretty comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 34:51

It is, right? Yeah, because it's one of those people dog beds. Yeah. So that's what we're talking about. We're kind of sitting on the floor with him right now, inside his little bed. And there's plenty of room. Yep. So one last question, let's see. Okay. If your dog was a movie character, would they be the hero, the sidekick, or the villain plotting world domination? Hmm. I know, I know for Tiger, my cat, it would definitely be the villain. World domination.

SPEAKER_01 35:17

Um I think this tiger would probably recruit all the dogs to be on his side.

SPEAKER_00 35:21

I know he would. He can recruit anybody. Um my hero has to, and my hero and my Pax have to be the hero. Yes. Definitely Pax is, yeah, has to be the hero. Penny has to be the hero because she's like, I am woman, hear me war.

SPEAKER_01 35:35

No, I think Penny and Ava would be in cahoots and try to overthrow things. Because they're both of them.

SPEAKER_00 35:40

Yeah, they're feisty. Yes. Feisty is the word for them there. Yeah. Jenny would have to be the voice of reason. She's the voice of reason. She's the hero.

SPEAKER_01 35:49

But there's no sidekicks here.

SPEAKER_00 35:51

We got no sidekick.

SPEAKER_01 35:52

My Bella would probably be a sidekick. She probably go go along with whatever.

SPEAKER_00 35:56

Oh. But she was a great, she was a great helper dog in working. She was working that we do. Yeah. She was a great helper dog.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

I miss both of them, actually. Yeah. Both her and even. Little role model.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Well, Jim, I don't know. We're covering a lot. I hope we'd I'm sure there's tons and we have to do a part two, most likely. Looking forward to it. Because you know there's lots of dogs, uh, real and animated that. I'm looking forward to actually coming back to do more podcasts with you.

SPEAKER_01 36:19

Absolutely. Absolutely. It's been it's been uh it's been a long time since we've been able to uh to get together. To get together and do one together.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

Yeah, we'll do it. But like I said, we'll do another one of these and then we'll do other fun ones and then we'll do some serious ones, and we'll just mix them up. And we'd love to hear from you guys too.

SPEAKER_01 36:34

So we are going to be putting one out every other week. Every other week.

SPEAKER_00 36:37

Yep, yep, definitely. And please follow, follow us because you know this way you'll get the latest episodes.

SPEAKER_01 36:44

Click on the notification so you know when the episode appears. That's right.

SPEAKER_00 36:47

That's right.

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Please upload it.

SPEAKER_00 36:48

And like Jamie said, it will be every other week. So just that our time constraint right now allows us to do so. I'll also be teaching very soon too. Yes, it's in the works. It's been kind of on halt for a little while, but it is back on track. I do have over 20 classes, so we're going to be putting them on Udemy. So please check back for that as well. Always head to my website for different events coming up at peaceinthepack.com. And if you have any problems with your dogs, or if you have any situations you'd like to share, or you need any assistance in any way, we live, live, live to help these dogs. And it is a passion of mine. So make sure to reach out to us uh at any time.

SPEAKER_01 37:24

And again, yeah, so um the Peace in the Pack website is actually in the process of being redone. Yeah. Uh so on the on the updated version of it, we're gonna have the link to you, Demi, for your classes. That's right. As well as that's all in that's all in the works.

SPEAKER_00 37:37

As well as a podcast page. But the website is still up now. It's just that it'll be a newer version coming up.

SPEAKER_01 37:44

Yeah, exactly. And in the works, yes, we're working to get together on is we're actually going to try to get the podcast on YouTube as a video.

SPEAKER_00 37:52

Yeah, I know. It's exciting.

SPEAKER_01 37:54

So we have we have some things coming up that we're working on that are in the works, just not out yet. So once everything is fully done, we'll definitely keep you guys posted on the progress and let you know when it's actually launched.

SPEAKER_00 38:06

And that's another reason why we want you to stay close so you can hear all the updates. And again, things got, you know, stepped back, just like everything else in life for different things this year, but we are back on track.

SPEAKER_01 38:15

Yes, you know, we're motivated, and yes, and it's all happening now. So thank you, all our supporters, for um listening to us on a weekly bi-weekly basis. We definitely appreciate it. Yeah. Ideas are very welcomed.

unknown 38:28

Right.

SPEAKER_01 38:28

Um, so just email me or Nance or put it in a comment below what you guys are looking for, what you guys want, and we will follow through.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

Yeah, and we will be checking back with you very soon with some amazing topics coming up. Who knows a part two with this, but just tons of tons of interesting topics, all to benefit our very best friends. So we thank you for stopping by today. Thanks for sharing your time, your coffee time, your relaxing time, your snuggle time with your dog. Make sure you give them a big hug for us. And we look forward to talking with you in two weeks. Do your best to create peace in your pack. And remember, peace changes everything. Bye, guys. Take care.