Growing up in LA, Balancing Conspiracies, and What to Do With a Mil w/ Alexander Payne | Ep 65

I sit with Alexander Payne and we talk about our times performing comedy in Europe, his time growing up in LA, and NYC Mayor indictment. We also talk about conspiracy theories, debunking them, and spiritual stuff. 

Alexander Payne is one of New York’s most versatile comedians. He writes and stars in his popular web-series Metropolitoons. He hosts two of the coolest underground comedy shows “Live At The Inn” and “Midnight Confessions” at The Music Inn in Greenwich Village. He travels around the world to do stand up comedy so check him out!

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Transcript

00;00;00;04 - 00;00;16;12
Speaker 1
It's hard to break out of that mindset of I need permission, you know, because that's what we've been kind of ingrained with. And then by we, I mean like millennials and stuff, but Gen Z is a little bit different. But like, you know, it's just ingrained to us. You need permission to do things. I need to say something to someone.

00;00;16;12 - 00;00;21;10
Speaker 1
Maybe from the time of your kid. I need to ask someone, can I do this? I don't know.

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Speaker 2
Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host. Yeah. Anything. This podcast, we talk with people that are raised in a culture different than their parents home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than the days of our parents or even back in the day. So let's get in today's episode.

00;00;41;02 - 00;00;43;12
Speaker 2
Sorry again. Hello. How are you?

00;00;43;14 - 00;00;48;07
Speaker 1
Good to be here. Good to be back. From where do we come from? London. Paris?

00;00;48;07 - 00;00;51;24
Speaker 2
Yeah. London. Yeah. Yeah. He's out there for a day, for like a month.

00;00;51;24 - 00;00;53;26
Speaker 3
There's some change. Six weeks. Six weeks? Yeah.

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Speaker 1
I was there for six weeks.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, man. And how you feel like, you know, being back in New York.

00;00;59;01 - 00;01;17;25
Speaker 1
whenever I come back, I always feel like, energized. Recharge, focused. Mostly like a weight has been off your shoulders, and then you come back to New York, and it's just like, you know, one person's son was always like a little pebble. Just one by one. They start trying to be like, all right, again. He slip in and they try and put more weight on me.

00;01;17;27 - 00;01;25;03
Speaker 1
so I'm trying to keep that mindset. Oh, wow. Yeah, I was out there. I was having a good time. I mean, let me stay in that zone.

00;01;25;05 - 00;01;28;11
Speaker 2
this is the zone of good time zone. Like, focus in doing it, like.

00;01;28;13 - 00;01;31;27
Speaker 3
Just like, not like.

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Speaker 1
You know, in New York, everyone was, like, rushing to get somewhere. You kind of forget that that's only a New York thing when you stay here so long. You think that's how everything is.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;01;41;25 - 00;01;58;16
Speaker 1
Everyone operates and then you go to another city or another place for long enough. You go like, oh yeah, this is just, this is how everyone in the world is. I don't have to operate at this speed. And then you come back here and you're like, oh yeah, okay. You know, you know, people hate you. Like you ain't moving at the right pace with ego.

00;01;58;16 - 00;02;14;25
Speaker 1
Like, bro, we don't have to move at this pace. You feel like, when you try and tell people about like you living in a matrix, bro. Like, if you get up, like, 30 minutes earlier, you you don't have to rush anywhere. Yeah. Take your time.

00;02;14;28 - 00;02;26;10
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's true. I mean, it's it is interesting that you say that because even the way I'm feeling coming back from the, from, you know, living in Berlin for a year and come back here is the same way, like that hustle. You kind of like, oh, yeah. That is, here.

00;02;26;12 - 00;02;38;12
Speaker 1
Yeah. This is like, insane pace. You don't have to find that the healthiest thing in the world. Nah. Russian everywhere. And like, oh, my God. you know, you just. Yeah. Fear, paranoia.

00;02;38;14 - 00;02;42;16
Speaker 2
Your brain is just constantly just like, you know, in a in an attention, like.

00;02;42;23 - 00;02;51;24
Speaker 1
Yeah, is I piss, I smell wise, I go looking at me, what's going on? I'm trying to. My take is this trend going right way? It's like you have more thoughts than you can ever have.

00;02;51;26 - 00;02;54;11
Speaker 2
It makes you. That makes you go crazy a little bit.

00;02;54;14 - 00;03;07;27
Speaker 1
I think so, for sure. For sure. New York is designed to make you lose your mind in a way, but it's also designed to make you think everyone else is crazy, not you. Yeah, I know, I know what I'm doing. Everyone else is fucked up. So it does that to.

00;03;08;05 - 00;03;14;27
Speaker 3
That is yeah I never we don't like that because you do people do externalize the crazy but not internalize it.

00;03;14;29 - 00;03;36;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. Everyone else is crazy right? Not me. Yeah. But meanwhile when you're saying that you you talking to yourself, which is like you are crazy if you're doing that. Yeah, but if once, if you catch yourself like, I feel like we should have a timer the time. How long we been in the talking to ourselves on. Right. If you go over a minute, that's one like you in the red was that bro, you need to relax.

00;03;36;17 - 00;03;38;03
Speaker 1
You need to take a trip. You need to do something.

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Speaker 2
How long? How long the timer should be like if you sit for the timer, like, what's the timer for talking to yourself before it gets too crazy? Like,

00;03;46;07 - 00;03;48;10
Speaker 3
If you talk to.

00;03;48;10 - 00;04;05;11
Speaker 1
Yourself and you actually, like, are talking to yourself when you start doing the like, if you're talking to yourself in your head and you just like, okay, then make a left and right. If you're doing that, you're good. But if you're actively like, you know, rat badly, that's when it's too much.

00;04;05;12 - 00;04;08;05
Speaker 2
Oh, with your hands. Kind of like, y'all gotta do this and then this, and then there's.

00;04;08;06 - 00;04;12;06
Speaker 3
This and that. Then I turn the oven off to, pick on the turtle tomorrow. No, no.

00;04;12;06 - 00;04;21;29
Speaker 1
No, no, I did not do it. Why is he looking at me like this thing we're looking at? But you start, you realize, like, wait. And I just, I, I don't have a whole conversation with myself this whole time, you know? That's not good.

00;04;22;01 - 00;04;25;25
Speaker 2
Okay? When you get lost in a conversation, you move your hands like this, then it's like, I.

00;04;25;25 - 00;04;27;09
Speaker 3
Like, you know, like.

00;04;27;11 - 00;04;32;17
Speaker 1
Do you think there's an active participant? But you're the only participant. You just there like.

00;04;32;17 - 00;04;34;09
Speaker 3
You.

00;04;34;12 - 00;04;41;04
Speaker 1
and meanwhile people look at you like, what are they looking at? Meanwhile, you don't realize you're talking to yourself and then looking at you like this thing, it's dog. It's also.

00;04;41;07 - 00;04;46;28
Speaker 2
Anybody. Yeah. Why are you looking at me? For what? Why are you doing like. Oh, they looking at you because you're insane right now. Yeah.

00;04;47;00 - 00;04;48;04
Speaker 1
Like, why you fucking business?

00;04;48;04 - 00;04;48;17
Speaker 3
You know me.

00;04;48;20 - 00;04;53;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. Before you look, you become one of those guys in a corner of the subway, car. Just like talking to myself, like.

00;04;53;11 - 00;04;59;03
Speaker 3
Exactly that, blah, blah. I'm, That's how my shoes are. They are not like the shoes, are I? Yeah. You know.

00;04;59;04 - 00;05;09;07
Speaker 1
I watch the homeless guy do that on the train one time. Yeah, two pins in his ears coming out each year. And he was like, spring clean. I'll never forget it. He was like, looking. Actually, he's, you.

00;05;09;07 - 00;05;09;29
Speaker 3
Know, I mean.

00;05;10;02 - 00;05;25;17
Speaker 1
And I remember I was like, right across from. And I was like, I don't know what he's doing, but he's figure some shit out. And I remember he's the first person I ever saw that. Like, I didn't know. You can open the subway window and he open the window, throwing shit out at the same time. And I was like, yo, you.

00;05;25;20 - 00;05;31;22
Speaker 1
That's what's up, man. That's what's up. And then later on I was like, oh yeah, that's also how fire start on the on the train. Right.

00;05;31;24 - 00;05;33;26
Speaker 3
But he was that he was, he was like looking.

00;05;33;26 - 00;05;40;11
Speaker 1
Around for other people to agree with him. And I was like, this is how I knew I was like, I might be a little fucked up. I was great when I was like, I don't know what you just say, but I.

00;05;40;11 - 00;05;45;23
Speaker 3
Fuck with it. You had nodded back, like, I, I, I just there yeah. I was just like he was in it.

00;05;45;23 - 00;05;47;03
Speaker 1
I was kind of like, yeah man.

00;05;47;03 - 00;05;48;13
Speaker 3
Yeah. He figured.

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Speaker 1
It out.

00;05;49;20 - 00;05;58;06
Speaker 3
It was two years, two pins sticking out of the straight. He talked about actually like pens that you can write with a pen, a big pen in each ear.

00;05;58;08 - 00;06;00;17
Speaker 1
Sticking out like he was the kazoo from, The.

00;06;00;17 - 00;06;11;27
Speaker 3
Flintstones. Are you serious? Yeah. He was like, steals the shows. It, you know, and I was like, yeah, I see what you're saying. Oh, that's it out there. At that point, you got to.

00;06;11;27 - 00;06;15;04
Speaker 2
Agree or else, you know, you you be up, right? You if you disagree.

00;06;15;07 - 00;06;17;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. I couldn't be like, no, that wasn't it. So I was down.

00;06;17;18 - 00;06;19;24
Speaker 2
You might take one of the pens I was ears and try to stab you with it.

00;06;20;00 - 00;06;20;17
Speaker 1
That's a good point.

00;06;20;17 - 00;06;23;05
Speaker 3
Anyway, I think I out of.

00;06;23;08 - 00;06;32;04
Speaker 1
The pen is my in the sword, but that that's kind of work. Coming back to New York does is like, oh yeah, this is like rampant lawlessness.

00;06;32;06 - 00;06;37;15
Speaker 2
Yeah. And visceral to like, you know, because homelessness is there in Berlin, but not like this. This one is like.

00;06;37;17 - 00;06;43;16
Speaker 1
This, homeless people everywhere. But here is where you go, wow, this is this is another level right here.

00;06;43;17 - 00;06;45;24
Speaker 2
Yeah, but this is, kind of concerning, you know.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, it's. He did we.

00;06;48;07 - 00;06;51;26
Speaker 1
Someone give this man a kick, place a, you know, a nice little tap?

00;06;52;02 - 00;06;53;08
Speaker 3
Yeah, a little a little nudge.

00;06;53;08 - 00;06;55;09
Speaker 2
I'm not going to do it, but somebody should do it.

00;06;55;11 - 00;07;01;04
Speaker 1
It's the kind of homelessness where they're not asking for anything. And that's where you go. Well, that's not good.

00;07;01;04 - 00;07;04;09
Speaker 2
Yeah, because this city's expensive. You know, you don't want something like what's going on.

00;07;04;10 - 00;07;18;10
Speaker 1
He's like, no, I'm just trying to sleep. Here you go. Yeah. Other cities, they ask. They're like, they have a sign. They sit there, you know, again, we thing they don't bother you. But here, like, sometimes they're just like, they're not even asking. You go, okay, can we help this man?

00;07;18;12 - 00;07;18;27
Speaker 2
Right.

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Speaker 1
He's not even asking sometimes.

00;07;20;13 - 00;07;33;07
Speaker 2
It's not that they they they demand, you know. Yeah. That happened recently. I had it like mentally because I've been away from New York City so long, I had to mentally get back to like, somewhere. And it was me as a friend were going to a store and a lady just came in. Should I say.

00;07;33;09 - 00;07;48;08
Speaker 3
Please, can I get grape soda? I need some greatsword. Can I get grape soda? I'm like a yo, what the. I'm like, yeah, what are you talking about? Yeah, he's a high. Yeah. Hello. You just made a specific demand for a drink and a drink. I hate at that. Yeah. So I need grapes, so I'm like a yo like.

00;07;48;08 - 00;07;49;29
Speaker 3
Hello. How are you doing? My name.

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Speaker 2
Is.

00;07;50;10 - 00;07;52;01
Speaker 3
Your name is like. It was is.

00;07;52;01 - 00;07;58;29
Speaker 2
Very direct and I. And even when we're shopping in a deli, she was still like, staring like they making sure. And then she.

00;07;58;29 - 00;08;03;04
Speaker 3
Open eventually or you go go go go go get grape soda. You get grapes. I'm like, what?

00;08;03;04 - 00;08;05;17
Speaker 2
I'm like, yo, I am browsing.

00;08;05;17 - 00;08;08;25
Speaker 1
She's one grape soda away from her master plan, so.

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Speaker 3
I it all time travel nigga, give me a I. It starts with grape soda. I didn't need enough carbonation in, 3% grape juice. You come straight. Here's black cherry. I said grape, but for color. Wine, wine.

00;08;21;21 - 00;08;22;22
Speaker 2
Smack the shit on me.

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Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;08;23;14 - 00;08;24;21
Speaker 2
I'm just now traumatized.

00;08;24;28 - 00;08;25;29
Speaker 3
I'm never coming back.

00;08;26;02 - 00;08;33;03
Speaker 1
I had a lady stop me. Well, earlier this week, it was an Indian like. Oh, Indian lady with, like, the head covering. And she was.

00;08;33;03 - 00;08;34;00
Speaker 3
Like, fool the.

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Speaker 1
Food. And I was like, we're outside of Delhi. And I pointed. She was like.

00;08;37;19 - 00;08;39;04
Speaker 3
Money, money. I was like, well.

00;08;39;04 - 00;08;40;07
Speaker 1
Bitch, make up your mind with.

00;08;40;07 - 00;08;41;27
Speaker 3
The food or money. Come on.

00;08;41;29 - 00;08;42;23
Speaker 1
I just walked away.

00;08;42;25 - 00;08;44;00
Speaker 2
It's like being indecisive.

00;08;44;06 - 00;08;52;08
Speaker 1
Come on. Yeah. She stopped me already. I knew my New York census was down. Was when I stopped. Oh, I was like, oh, yeah, I've been. I've been out of the city too long.

00;08;52;09 - 00;08;54;21
Speaker 2
Yeah. So you stop in like black, You black?

00;08;54;23 - 00;08;55;26
Speaker 1
you got me. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
You don't keep on going on. So you grew up in LA though, like you from originally?

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Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;09;00;10 - 00;09;07;18
Speaker 2
And like, how was LA? Like, you know, in terms of, like, just that in comparison, New York City, you know.

00;09;07;21 - 00;09;22;01
Speaker 1
la is not as I mean, the homelessness is probably worse there now. I think when I was a kid, it wasn't I don't know if it was as bad, but homeless people there now in downtown L.A. are definitely worse than I would say here.

00;09;22;04 - 00;09;22;26
Speaker 3


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Speaker 1
but I think people are like, it's better to be homeless in LA, which I do agree with because the weather's better.

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Speaker 2
Warmer. Yeah, definitely.

00;09;30;18 - 00;09;38;25
Speaker 1
Because, like, I don't know, there's like, I feel like there's bum seasons, whereas like, there's seasons where you see homeless people and then there's seasons where you go, what happened to them?

00;09;38;27 - 00;09;42;27
Speaker 3
You know, maybe bums, you know what I mean? Like, I, I'm not saying that.

00;09;42;27 - 00;10;02;12
Speaker 1
Homelessness is seasonal. I'm just saying the there's certain seasons where, like, you don't see them as much outside, like they might be on the train, Ray, but this just I don't see them as much. But in LA, I see them all those on or that's that's pretty bad now. But growing up L.A versus here it's not as diverse.

00;10;02;14 - 00;10;13;02
Speaker 1
This is like Mexicans, blacks, whites, Jews. That's probably about really Armenians. There's not like here there's like everything here is like what you mean you know, a retreat before it's like.

00;10;13;05 - 00;10;15;26
Speaker 3
I don't I don't know what it's like. You're not everywhere. Yeah. It's like.

00;10;15;26 - 00;10;18;28
Speaker 1
Here in New York and for whatever reason, Minnesota or something like.

00;10;19;05 - 00;10;21;09
Speaker 3
Minnesota. Yeah. You know, I'm like.

00;10;21;10 - 00;10;48;06
Speaker 1
Somalis and shit like that. more spacious, not as integrated as here. I would say like, LA is like a loose collection of neighborhoods, while, like, New York City is, is a city city where it's like you can see every type of, person on the train, like, you just get on the seven train and you'll see every type of human being.

00;10;48;09 - 00;11;08;26
Speaker 1
Yeah. And you go, this is crazy that everybody will live in the same neighborhood. gangs were worse when I was a kid there and I was bad. Now here in LA. so that's gotten better. Yeah. That's much better.

00;11;08;28 - 00;11;27;19
Speaker 2
I got a gang life out there and that's one thing that every time I talk to somebody who's from LA and I talk to them about like gang, cause it's like it's not even like a separate thing rather than it being like an integral part of, like, this, like the city or something like this. To the point where, like, your teachers, you know, the mailman, the who like.

00;11;27;20 - 00;11;28;00
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;11;28;04 - 00;11;38;21
Speaker 2
The integral people in society are also part of, like the, like, gang culture. Yeah. It's like, it's not even like a it's like a weird, like, I dunno, balance that got out there some.

00;11;38;23 - 00;11;58;06
Speaker 1
I mean, yes, like, I guess, you know, they have gangs here, the gangs anywhere, but there's like, you know, shoot on sight, like type like, don't wear certain colors, don't wear any hats. Yeah. Like, that was a rule that they had always for me it was never wear any hats. Don't wear chucks Lester Black. But even then, I mean, just don't wear chucks, period.

00;11;58;07 - 00;12;00;04
Speaker 1
I don't have fucking support for your feet.

00;12;00;04 - 00;12;02;02
Speaker 2
But, yeah, they're very bad orthopedic.

00;12;02;05 - 00;12;18;03
Speaker 1
But, yeah, gangs was a big thing when I was growing up. And now not so much anymore. I think, like, there's still gangs, but like, it's not like when I feel like when I was a kid, that's. And it could be just when I was a kid, it was. I was a kid. Or maybe more intimidated by it.

00;12;18;03 - 00;12;32;21
Speaker 1
But like, I've come back from New York since, and I remember I was going to walk up the street or something. My brother was like the walk up street, you know, they're going to shoot you and there's a shot someone around the corner the other day, and I was like, I don't know. At this point. I had already been at five and I think it's from gangs out here.

00;12;32;21 - 00;12;48;18
Speaker 1
So I was like, oh, fine, I'll be all right. Yeah. I walked up the street, I don't know. But I was like, I guess I get it because in LA it's much more you're in a car. and you check a citizen out and like, you know, the danger isn't always necessarily right in front of you. Like in New York.

00;12;48;18 - 00;12;53;13
Speaker 1
The dangers right in front of you is like me, and the danger are getting off at the same stop. I don't know.

00;12;53;16 - 00;12;56;04
Speaker 3
I it seems.

00;12;56;07 - 00;12;57;21
Speaker 1
Like we both go in the same way.

00;12;57;25 - 00;12;58;23
Speaker 2
Express, you know.

00;12;58;23 - 00;13;12;08
Speaker 1
Yeah, we both go on express and you know, but they are I get it, it's more like car bubble, house bubble. and here, everywhere you go, there's just like, it's craziness everywhere.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. And then that whole integration with, like, the craziness with the regular people, not regular people with, like, people that are not as crazy and like, you know, people that live in, you know, like from the highs, the highs, lows, the lows all in one is like crazy.

00;13;24;26 - 00;13;41;19
Speaker 1
Yeah. You just hear your fight or flight is actively always on. you always like this or the thing I notice is the. You can't see my foot, but it's like the foot tapping a lot of this going on. Like, if you look at people's legs, a lot of bouncing, like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I know what that is.

00;13;41;19 - 00;13;59;21
Speaker 1
They. Yeah. Here in New York, you see that all the time. Just people like doing this. That's why fidget spinners were so fucking big. It was like, you know, Candy crush as a way to zone out and shit like that and like. Yeah, I mean, you just actively always dealing with, like, what's the next situation? Like the trains, like when it rains, you basically floods now.

00;13;59;21 - 00;14;01;02
Speaker 2
Yeah. What's going on.

00;14;01;02 - 00;14;02;21
Speaker 3
With that crazy.

00;14;02;23 - 00;14;16;01
Speaker 1
I mean, New York City supposed to. It's not supposed to be here. And, it's fucking flooding and, there's no infrastructure to stop it. And, you know, the mayor still money and shit like that. And the shuttle, you know, I know a lot of people hate the mayor for stealing money. But let me tell you something.

00;14;16;01 - 00;14;20;16
Speaker 1
If I was mayor, I stole money to, I would be completely honest. Like. Oh, can you leave? The mayor.

00;14;20;16 - 00;14;22;28
Speaker 3
Stole money. Like, you know.

00;14;23;01 - 00;14;25;16
Speaker 1
I worked a low paying job. I'm not at his job, so pay him.

00;14;25;16 - 00;14;28;00
Speaker 2
But. Right. I mean, in comparison. What? He's getting shit. You might as.

00;14;28;00 - 00;14;44;05
Speaker 1
Well. I'm just saying, I worked at, like, fucking like, you know, jobs where they pay, like, minimum wage was, like $14, and then the job paid, like 725. Wow. Yeah, I work jobs like that. I'm like, I just so you know, I'm still $32 an hour.

00;14;44;07 - 00;14;44;18
Speaker 3
He's like.

00;14;44;19 - 00;14;45;18
Speaker 2
I'm gonna I'm going to do.

00;14;45;18 - 00;14;48;22
Speaker 1
Yeah. Someone there like the mayor still in my in my. Yeah, yeah. He's still in money.

00;14;48;22 - 00;14;52;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. I mean look, man, I mean, he's a cop.

00;14;52;05 - 00;15;05;27
Speaker 2
I mean, there's just a pivot to the mayor thing. We might as well talk. We're in New York City, right? That I don't I don't know all the detail. I know you stole is a lot of other multinational people that are involved with it and that, the thing was talking to Steven or something the other day, right about it.

00;15;06;02 - 00;15;08;16
Speaker 2
It was like, look, man.

00;15;08;18 - 00;15;14;19
Speaker 3
It's a half $1 million put in front of. You are saying that, yeah, it can change it. You got it. You got to.

00;15;14;19 - 00;15;19;05
Speaker 2
Have, like, some fortitude in your brain to process that as a thing. I'm not going to say.

00;15;19;12 - 00;15;20;05
Speaker 3
Yeah, if you.

00;15;20;05 - 00;15;22;19
Speaker 2
Don't have that fortitude in there, somebody give it to.

00;15;22;19 - 00;15;25;15
Speaker 3
You. Like how are you going to take it? Especially if it's not.

00;15;25;15 - 00;15;32;26
Speaker 2
Like, hey, how you doing? Like it's formalities. It's kind of like, hey yo his his his million right here. You can be like, yo, I can't, I'm touching a million.

00;15;33;03 - 00;15;51;24
Speaker 1
Well, it's also there. And then everyone else around you is taking it. So even if you don't take it, everyone else is like, nigga, if you don't take this money. Yeah, we're going to find out something about you. Yeah. Like, because we don't. If we're still in and you're not stealing, everyone's like, I don't trust you now, nigga.

00;15;51;27 - 00;16;00;21
Speaker 3
Oh, that's like some horseshit way you got to be. If it's like, if we all here committing the crime, you don't want to, even if you didn't shoot nobody.

00;16;00;21 - 00;16;02;05
Speaker 1
I'm taking a gun and putting it in your.

00;16;02;05 - 00;16;03;06
Speaker 3
Hands and.

00;16;03;07 - 00;16;05;19
Speaker 1
Be like, we're in this together.

00;16;05;22 - 00;16;09;27
Speaker 3
That is, Yeah. Nothing makes you feel more uncomfortable.

00;16;09;27 - 00;16;21;14
Speaker 1
Like then a bunch of other you like, you know, subordinates stealing, like, yo, if you going to get a piece of this. And he's like, nah, I'm good. Like, they want him to do the boys in the hood. Yeah, I can't take that. Right?

00;16;21;16 - 00;16;30;13
Speaker 3
No. Like, nigga, you told me how to do this. Once you tell me, it's like, get your ass in a car. What are you talking about? Come on. You're taking this money? Yeah, and we don't have a good time. Oh, yeah. They're going.

00;16;30;18 - 00;16;37;21
Speaker 2
You can put it right in here. They're probably gonna do that thing where they want to, just like they don't. Anybody on I'm. Good bye. Nah. You good. Now put in your hand. I'm the.

00;16;37;21 - 00;16;42;17
Speaker 3
Police commissioner. What do you think? Like we doing this together? Yeah. He's like oh.

00;16;42;19 - 00;16;45;11
Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, you won't say this. That is a good point though.

00;16;45;17 - 00;16;46;25
Speaker 3
Yeah. You had to.

00;16;46;28 - 00;16;52;08
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean he had I mean there's no winning in that situation. The only thing he and he.

00;16;52;11 - 00;16;53;17
Speaker 3
The police commissioner.

00;16;53;17 - 00;16;55;16
Speaker 1
Had to resign. It's not like he could go.

00;16;55;16 - 00;17;03;15
Speaker 3
Hey, guys, the police are corrupt. The police commissioner was like, yeah, like we're still in the game. Like we all. Yeah, we all know this.

00;17;03;16 - 00;17;13;24
Speaker 1
You can't go to it's it's it was once again, I don't like Eric Adams. But in that situation I mean I think I would have. So I don't know like like everybody was silly. Did you want me to not.

00;17;13;24 - 00;17;17;03
Speaker 2
Still he wasn't stealing right. Though I do was just too. He was I was just.

00;17;17;03 - 00;17;20;04
Speaker 3
Outside, you know, he was stealing.

00;17;20;04 - 00;17;23;19
Speaker 1
It was just like people didn't like him. Oh, he's a cop. First of all, nobody likes.

00;17;23;23 - 00;17;24;11
Speaker 3
Right?

00;17;24;14 - 00;17;35;16
Speaker 1
And then on top of that, to get this is what I'm saying. If you got a steal, you got to share the wealth. You can't be stealing and hoarding and be like, we want to raise the fair. It's like, nigga.

00;17;35;17 - 00;17;45;27
Speaker 3
You stealing money? Like, yeah, just let us steal too high. We could do what you do. It's like you out there with French Montana. Like, yo, let me like, party a little bit. He's. I can't believe these motherfuckers are trying to.

00;17;46;01 - 00;17;47;14
Speaker 1
Evade the fair. 290.

00;17;47;14 - 00;17;56;01
Speaker 3
It's like, nigga, you stole $1 million and I'm still just like you. I want to be like, you want to grow up. I. You get mad at me for hopping the fair 290 and.

00;17;56;01 - 00;17;58;07
Speaker 1
You, you get in Turkish airline flights.

00;17;58;07 - 00;18;09;29
Speaker 2
That's while I saw like the I'm. I was on TikTok, seen a person a person was going through the whole affidavit or whatever. Yeah. And like, yo, it was egregious. Like very like kind of,

00;18;10;01 - 00;18;15;17
Speaker 3
Very open. Yeah. Yeah. It's like to open. It was kind of like, yo, you're not doing this right.

00;18;15;20 - 00;18;19;09
Speaker 1
Well for him. And again, he's, he, he went from was a police commissioner.

00;18;19;09 - 00;18;20;07
Speaker 2
I think so.

00;18;20;10 - 00;18;22;00
Speaker 1
To mayor it's like oh.

00;18;22;00 - 00;18;23;12
Speaker 2
Borough president of Brooklyn.

00;18;23;16 - 00;18;48;28
Speaker 1
Of borough president in Brooklyn. But it's like again the reason he won, which is crazy to think was Eric Garner happened. And they were like, you know, they killed, him. And then we were all like, we need a black mayor. And then they nominated him. But then it's like, well, the problem was it was police brutality. So how you go from when you had a black mayor to a cop, mayor and it was like, yeah, a cop will make the city safer.

00;18;48;28 - 00;18;51;18
Speaker 1
And I'm like, cops don't make anything safer.

00;18;51;18 - 00;18;54;16
Speaker 2
Like there's like, the whole reason why I happened was, this thing to happen.

00;18;54;18 - 00;19;12;26
Speaker 1
It's like saying a garbage man will get rid of, like, fucking like, you know, that was heal the ozone layer. It's like they come after the fact. The trash is already made too late by then. It's clean it up. And that's what policemen are. It's like they come after the crime is committed. There's never been a time you've seen a crime.

00;19;12;26 - 00;19;22;01
Speaker 1
Being ready to be committed in a cop. Was there being like Holt. It's never happened. You got to call them afterwards and be like, hey, somebody shot somebody. Yeah. All right, we'll see if we can come by.

00;19;22;01 - 00;19;24;28
Speaker 2
You know, once in a while. It might be some idea. Right place, right time. Otherwise, I.

00;19;24;28 - 00;19;26;04
Speaker 3
Still. I don't think there's ever been.

00;19;26;04 - 00;19;26;27
Speaker 1
Right place, right time.

00;19;26;27 - 00;19;29;14
Speaker 3
I mean, even when, like, beyond this will like the.

00;19;29;15 - 00;19;41;09
Speaker 1
Shit in Texas, the shootings in Texas happen. they call the cops, they go, there's a guy here with a gun and they go, all right, we'll be there. And then they're there, and then they wait like an hour and 15 more kids get shot, and then they go in.

00;19;41;11 - 00;19;44;15
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah. Okay. This is. Yeah, yeah, it is a.

00;19;44;15 - 00;19;59;05
Speaker 1
Myth that the cops are there and they're going to halt crime. more police are going to stop crying. It's just like it's it's a big myth and it's like perpetrated by the police. But as for him, he's like, If I'm stealing and I'm the cops, who's going to catch me?

00;19;59;05 - 00;20;03;19
Speaker 3
Me? Like, that's what he's thinking. He's like, I'm a cop.

00;20;03;21 - 00;20;07;21
Speaker 2
And that's why he's so egregious with the whole stealing. Like he's just like, yo, who's going to stop me?

00;20;07;23 - 00;20;09;27
Speaker 3
We all doing it, all right? Who's going to who's.

00;20;09;27 - 00;20;12;05
Speaker 1
Going to catch us? Who's going to stop us? I'm not going to lie.

00;20;12;06 - 00;20;15;09
Speaker 2
Did he have the earring before he became mayor or after?

00;20;15;12 - 00;20;16;01
Speaker 3
Because, I don't know, I.

00;20;16;01 - 00;20;16;23
Speaker 1
Think that might be enough.

00;20;16;28 - 00;20;25;25
Speaker 2
Because that era. I ain't going to lie to you now. I sound very like I sound like a conservative person, but, like, I ain't gonna lie. Once all, like, the indictment thing happened I saw was faced with the air and I was like.

00;20;25;27 - 00;20;31;13
Speaker 3
When you took that shit. Oh, of course I go lie the way you like. I mean.

00;20;31;13 - 00;20;47;07
Speaker 2
You just a cop, mayor with the air. You know, I don't know one thing. If you can't, like from that type of elk or whatever, became mayor by some crazy means. But to be a cop, commissioner, right? Yeah. And have all that and then have errands. I have this, like, are you trying to live a life to the fullest before you get caught or something?

00;20;47;07 - 00;20;58;11
Speaker 2
I don't know, it's like you trying to live a second life, but that's the visual, girl. Yeah, yeah, I know that. I'm glad we kind of talked about because, like, when I came here, that was like the thing and I was like.

00;20;58;14 - 00;21;15;00
Speaker 1
Everybody. I haven't seen them. I mean, they didn't like de Blasio, they didn't like Bloomberg, but Bloomberg was at least rich. And so he was doing like rich people shit where he was like, we gotta get rid of these big old soulless that was killing these youth. It's all this fucking diabetes. And it's.

00;21;15;00 - 00;21;16;11
Speaker 3
Like my.

00;21;16;13 - 00;21;29;26
Speaker 1
I was just like, let me have this. And then like him either. And then they didn't like de Blasio. But this, I feel like, is the most hate I've ever seen, where people are on the rat side over the mayor's side. That's that's why you taking the rat side.

00;21;30;01 - 00;21;31;02
Speaker 3
Oh, man. Yeah.

00;21;31;05 - 00;21;46;07
Speaker 2
That's okay. That's serious. Yeah. Damn, I miss losses, you know, we're from New York. Yeah, yeah. It's like you had to live here to, like, really experience what was going on. Like everything's expensive. The rent's expensive. All this stuff is crazy. The indictments, you know, just like, it's, like, a lot.

00;21;46;10 - 00;21;50;03
Speaker 1
Yeah. Diddy, all that kind of crazy stuff is Haiti.

00;21;50;04 - 00;22;04;09
Speaker 2
I mean, that is that is a whole different thing right there, dad. I mean, and it's crazy because we've seen it from afar and not being in America. And then coming here is just like a different, like viewpoint where you just kind of like, damn, it was crazy over there as well.

00;22;04;09 - 00;22;12;14
Speaker 1
He was going to Harlem right before he got arrested. I don't know if you saw that. He was just like, yeah, pulling up in the streets of Harlem and you go, this might be the most gangster thing I've ever seen.

00;22;12;15 - 00;22;15;21
Speaker 2
Yeah, he's in the I think he's in Central Park. I saw that, he saw it. They had a picture of him.

00;22;15;22 - 00;22;21;05
Speaker 1
He was in Central Park, but he was like, going up literally to the streets of Harlem. After everything came out.

00;22;21;07 - 00;22;24;08
Speaker 2
He was just like, let just one last time. Let me just see my homeland one more time.

00;22;24;15 - 00;22;39;23
Speaker 1
I think he was just like, pull it up to show people he ain't afraid. And like, what are you going to do? Like, that's the gangster movies be like, yeah. So what you going to do about it? Oh, like, pull up to Harlem. You want to do something about it? Let me hear you say no dating my face up here.

00;22;39;26 - 00;22;43;05
Speaker 3
Yo, this. See this?

00;22;43;07 - 00;22;44;15
Speaker 1
I'm out here in the streets. All right?

00;22;44;20 - 00;22;51;06
Speaker 3
And nobody knows, is they? No. Let me hear that shit. So they knew that it was crazy.

00;22;51;08 - 00;22;53;14
Speaker 2
As well, is what I mean. Yeah.

00;22;53;19 - 00;22;54;17
Speaker 1
He was going to jail, too.

00;22;54;17 - 00;22;56;21
Speaker 2
That's a thing that was actually trending in Germany. That was just.

00;22;56;21 - 00;22;57;23
Speaker 1
Hilarious. What did he.

00;22;57;23 - 00;22;58;14
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;22;58;17 - 00;23;16;24
Speaker 1
I mean, I think it's trending all over the world, like he's a billionaire. And for a billionaire, like, no, go down that way. And then also like whoever thought I didn't think Diddy was a, not only a rapist but a pedophile and sodomy, but I wouldn't. Who knew he was. Tell us all along with the bad boy.

00;23;16;24 - 00;23;21;08
Speaker 3
I didn't really know we would grow up. He was a soft rapper. Yeah, he.

00;23;21;08 - 00;23;28;00
Speaker 1
Was the nice guy. Good night. Was the one was like, you better be afraid of shark night. And it comes to it. You're like, oh, my God, did. He was he.

00;23;28;01 - 00;23;29;01
Speaker 3
Was crazy.

00;23;29;01 - 00;23;30;23
Speaker 1
Diddling everybody.

00;23;30;25 - 00;23;33;15
Speaker 3
He fucking. He's a, you know.

00;23;33;15 - 00;23;34;10
Speaker 1
The do up dirty.

00;23;34;10 - 00;23;38;01
Speaker 3
Boys. The dude. What did you boys. Yeah. Okay. Bad boys.

00;23;38;04 - 00;23;47;20
Speaker 1
Yeah, man. You go like, wow, what did he man? He must going through it now. Like they're like, what do you do to usher? They like to usher do Justin Bieber.

00;23;47;21 - 00;23;49;26
Speaker 3
Oh,

00;23;49;28 - 00;23;55;13
Speaker 2
I'm not I'm not going to lie, man. Some of these, like, documentary. Like what even Dan Schneider with with the Nickelodeon.

00;23;55;13 - 00;23;56;25
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Like,

00;23;56;28 - 00;24;05;02
Speaker 2
It's like my childhood is being melted by, like, these things that are being found out. It's kind of like, yeah, what can I be nostalgic about anymore?

00;24;05;04 - 00;24;06;22
Speaker 3
Because it's like everything is just being.

00;24;06;22 - 00;24;07;06
Speaker 2
Melted.

00;24;07;06 - 00;24;09;05
Speaker 3
By, like, just just pure.

00;24;09;05 - 00;24;10;17
Speaker 2
Like just shit that's happening.

00;24;10;22 - 00;24;14;12
Speaker 1
The only hero I have left is Charlie Brown. That's it. He's the only one that has not.

00;24;14;17 - 00;24;16;07
Speaker 3
Let me hold your breath. Don't hold.

00;24;16;07 - 00;24;18;10
Speaker 1
Your breath. I hope Snoopy hasn't touched.

00;24;18;10 - 00;24;21;07
Speaker 3
Anybody with my ass. You know, dogs in the masses.

00;24;21;07 - 00;24;23;28
Speaker 1
So that's allowed. You can sniff ass if you're a dog, but.

00;24;24;03 - 00;24;25;11
Speaker 2
Oh, so were dogs okay?

00;24;25;11 - 00;24;30;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. Why couldn't Charlie Brown here, his teacher know? What was she saying to Charlie?

00;24;30;12 - 00;24;31;26
Speaker 2
Oh, there's that in that shit out.

00;24;32;03 - 00;24;38;14
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's why I'm like. Yeah, that that was probably that's still the biggest story I think is did he, out here in New York that's like.

00;24;38;14 - 00;24;43;00
Speaker 2
Yeah. Because I mean, every day is like something new. I'm watching TikTok is every day something.

00;24;43;00 - 00;24;43;28
Speaker 1
Like, well, he's in jail here.

00;24;44;05 - 00;24;46;18
Speaker 2
Yeah, he's in jail on a guy denied there's like a five.

00;24;46;18 - 00;24;55;24
Speaker 1
Million, 50 million, 50 million, which is crazy because it's like, that's how I knew he was guilty. Was he offered 50 million? which is like, you know, you know, start with 50 million.

00;24;55;24 - 00;24;58;15
Speaker 2
That's a high amount to start with. Where do you go from there?

00;24;58;17 - 00;25;07;01
Speaker 1
That's what that's what I'm saying. If he offered, he was like 50 million. I don't think they set it at 50 million. And they were like, nigga, we can't let you out. If you offer in this kind of money, hell.

00;25;07;01 - 00;25;09;28
Speaker 2
Not look bad on the courts if they already do. So that.

00;25;09;28 - 00;25;13;21
Speaker 1
50 million. He's like, I know what the, Eric Adams price is.

00;25;13;23 - 00;25;15;07
Speaker 2
In the Eric Adams deal.

00;25;15;14 - 00;25;24;11
Speaker 1
Yeah. And then we have the guy at our show talking about it. The, he was the United States Attorney guy that was on our show time. While he's prosecuting the case.

00;25;24;13 - 00;25;27;15
Speaker 3
He's at your show that the show show you wrong. What?

00;25;27;15 - 00;25;29;12
Speaker 2
You talked about that he's not playing music. He just happened.

00;25;29;12 - 00;25;30;14
Speaker 1
To be in the crowd.

00;25;30;17 - 00;25;31;16
Speaker 3
Oh, right.

00;25;31;23 - 00;25;39;09
Speaker 1
you probably maybe were upstairs. Yeah, yeah, he was telling him that his girl was telling this, actually, which is even more while there. But, yeah, he's out there in Brooklyn right now.

00;25;39;09 - 00;25;40;12
Speaker 3
Brooklyn holding. So.

00;25;40;13 - 00;25;44;14
Speaker 1
Whoa, get off that B-52. You can go.

00;25;44;17 - 00;25;50;25
Speaker 3
Dude. Yeah, I got I went for you, I know. Come, come. Listen. My mixtape, man. I can help you out.

00;25;51;01 - 00;25;54;20
Speaker 1
You know, they say he's not eating right now. He's on suicide watch is not eating.

00;25;54;25 - 00;25;55;20
Speaker 2
I mean, bro.

00;25;55;24 - 00;25;57;03
Speaker 1
You some of my poisonous food or.

00;25;57;03 - 00;26;01;12
Speaker 2
Some. I mean, I mean, after all the stuff that came out, like.

00;26;01;15 - 00;26;06;01
Speaker 3
All the things he did to all the people he did it to, some of those people too, are like.

00;26;06;03 - 00;26;07;00
Speaker 1
I don't want dead now.

00;26;07;07 - 00;26;16;19
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean, it dead. But I mean, like, just imagine to the thought of like the people like, you know, like, like, Biggie Smalls, you know, all those people.

00;26;16;22 - 00;26;17;09
Speaker 3
you know, I.

00;26;17;09 - 00;26;20;00
Speaker 2
Mean, even I mean, people alive, like little shy.

00;26;20;07 - 00;26;21;07
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;26;21;09 - 00;26;38;21
Speaker 2
you know, even, Craig Mack. Right? Yeah. You know, wish that he didn't do black, right? Right. Yeah. I'll die to know how supporting. I mean, like, there's a lot of influential New York people that, like we found on the the people found on the back end. That was done dirty. And then now he's dead. It's kind of like, yo, again, these are people I grew up to.

00;26;38;21 - 00;26;40;16
Speaker 2
Like. Yeah. You know, this mob.

00;26;40;16 - 00;26;49;22
Speaker 1
Join the mob. Ain't no replacing them. Next. But we just mixing them in funerals. You like, you black rob. And then later on you go. Why was Rob so black?

00;26;49;24 - 00;26;52;27
Speaker 3
Why didn't he give me love? Yeah. that's a.

00;26;52;27 - 00;26;57;23
Speaker 2
Crazy. So I think he might, he might, might get, touched. You know.

00;26;57;25 - 00;27;07;09
Speaker 1
Yeah. I think it's more just like someone powerful is like, he's got to go if he's going to flip on them. This is like, I don't know if he's billionaire status.

00;27;07;11 - 00;27;10;04
Speaker 2
Yeah. There's going to be some. Yeah. He's rub hands with somebody.

00;27;10;08 - 00;27;22;12
Speaker 1
Who do you give up like. I mean there was some Jay-Z. Like what did Jay-Z do. that's what the next thing is. What did Jay-Z do? And Jay-Z's his business partner, yada yada yada. You're like, yeah, what did Jay-Z do?

00;27;22;15 - 00;27;35;00
Speaker 2
You know what's crazy, though? It's just like, I mean, like, you know, all this, like, is good. That's all coming out now. I'm thinking my mind, my yo was going to be left on for my brain to be nostalgic about because, like, it seems like every.

00;27;35;02 - 00;27;36;03
Speaker 3
Five to.

00;27;36;03 - 00;27;40;14
Speaker 2
Eight years is being deteriorated by something coming out like that. You'd be like.

00;27;40;17 - 00;27;43;29
Speaker 3
Yo, what? Yeah. It's like, there's no way I can.

00;27;43;29 - 00;27;46;29
Speaker 2
Mentally go back and reminisce about, you know.

00;27;46;29 - 00;27;51;23
Speaker 3
Everything about, you know, I can't, I can't, why can't? That's a good.

00;27;51;23 - 00;27;58;08
Speaker 1
Song. You may. I'll be watching you. Yeah, I bet you will. Put them cameras in the house.

00;27;58;11 - 00;27;59;10
Speaker 3
And exactly.

00;27;59;10 - 00;28;06;14
Speaker 2
Thousands of it. So now every song you listen to, every layer you like. Wait wait wait wait wait. What was this? every step I take. Whoa. You watch.

00;28;06;14 - 00;28;09;29
Speaker 3
And steps. Yeah, it's going on. I feel like, honestly, I feel the opposite.

00;28;09;29 - 00;28;13;12
Speaker 1
I feel like what's happening now is really good now.

00;28;13;12 - 00;28;16;04
Speaker 2
I agree, it's good. I'm just saying, like, you know, from a.

00;28;16;07 - 00;28;31;12
Speaker 1
No, I just feel like it's it's good. That is wiping that. I don't want to say nostalgia off, but it's wiping that like, you know, the childhood out of your eyes. Like, you know how you get up in the morning. A kid, you know, is like, I some your I like you don't even know what it is, but it's like that's what it was.

00;28;31;12 - 00;28;41;19
Speaker 1
It was just a bunch of lies. And it's good that we're now waking up to, like, you know, these industries were just big fronts for sex trafficking.

00;28;41;21 - 00;28;42;24
Speaker 3
I remember we thought, like a year.

00;28;42;24 - 00;28;59;15
Speaker 1
Ago, you look online and be like, oh, Wayfair sex trafficking children. You're like, now the music industry is sex trafficking, Hollywood is sex trafficking. So yeah. And you know, the Amanda Bynes was the couch. It was like the when they sold it to you was crazy. And that's what I'm like, crazy. I used to wish to be on Nickelodeon.

00;28;59;17 - 00;29;02;05
Speaker 1
All of us did. Now I'm like, Thank God.

00;29;02;06 - 00;29;06;06
Speaker 2
Oh my God. Like the, you know, the hidden temple that this now whatever the game shows.

00;29;06;06 - 00;29;08;06
Speaker 3
Double dare, double dare. You know who that thought was?

00;29;08;06 - 00;29;10;18
Speaker 2
The main dare in that right? That could have been that.

00;29;10;20 - 00;29;20;26
Speaker 1
Double dare you to stay alone with Dan Snyder. you're like, whoa, this is crazy that they were doing this, this wild.

00;29;20;28 - 00;29;22;07
Speaker 3
Oh, I double dare.

00;29;22;07 - 00;29;23;03
Speaker 2
You have to do it now.

00;29;23;09 - 00;29;30;20
Speaker 1
Yeah. And then, like, all that shit to happen to you, and then, like, 20 years later, someone's like, all right, we're gonna make a show out of this. You know? Like, you don't make a.

00;29;30;27 - 00;29;31;23
Speaker 3
This is how I got here.

00;29;31;23 - 00;29;46;16
Speaker 2
Yeah, I'm trying to still rebuild myself. Like, now this is out again. Now waiting on be cast. You know, any character I play. Oh, that's the person who. God. So also done to like, I'm trying to be, you know, policeman number five. Can you at least let me be policeman number five?

00;29;46;19 - 00;29;49;28
Speaker 3
No, you. Oh, that's. I do that guy, you know, in some other place.

00;29;50;00 - 00;30;12;15
Speaker 2
So, yeah, I've been booking a gig now. Be so difficult because, like, you got mean. There's no one as a person that was a victim, which, I mean, you know, great that you got your, you know. Yeah. Your justice. But then to what? At that point, can you separate yourself from those, from that like fallout, not fallout, but from that, like knowledge of what happened to you then like it being out in the public, like in a documentary form, like Amanda Bynes.

00;30;12;17 - 00;30;20;17
Speaker 2
What can she act in aside from her herself and which has happened to her like she would play a character. So where somebody like, okay, we yes, you.

00;30;20;17 - 00;30;22;25
Speaker 3
Are a superhero. Well, I.

00;30;22;25 - 00;30;41;29
Speaker 1
Always thought when I was a kid, I remember my friend told me, is he he works in industry. And I was talking to him about kid stars, and he was saying, this is I want to say ten years ago, maybe eight years ago, he was like, what do you think is happening to all these kids? That's making them all go crazy?

00;30;42;01 - 00;30;48;09
Speaker 1
And I remember Dave Chappelle actually said this in one of his interviews. He's like, these are strong people. So what do you think's happening to make people crazy in this industry?

00;30;48;09 - 00;30;49;07
Speaker 2
I remember this, yeah.

00;30;49;08 - 00;31;00;18
Speaker 1
But my friend said that to me. He's like, they're all children. He said, so you mean tell me Amanda Bynes just goes crazy? Lindsay Lohan goes crazy. you know, Jake Drake Bell, all these people are just going crazy. And their children.

00;31;00;20 - 00;31;01;05
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;31;01;08 - 00;31;20;29
Speaker 1
Kids just don't go crazy. I mean, even people on the street just don't go crazy. I remember, like, you know, something's happening that's churning these people out to make them, you know, Justin Bieber, like, you know, Justin Bieber defying God for no reason. You know what I mean? He wasn't, you know, fucking Hailey Bieber was like, that was.

00;31;21;03 - 00;31;27;07
Speaker 1
God is at the bottom of her pussy. It didn't happen like that. You know, something happened, and he was like, I.

00;31;27;07 - 00;31;35;19
Speaker 3
Had to get away from these demons. Yo, I'm just saying, it's like, oh.

00;31;35;21 - 00;31;47;16
Speaker 1
This is what's going on out here. I'm finding out, you know, through various outlets. Like, you know, I watched the last year, I watched the Nickelodeon, like the the nice one, the reminiscing like, oh, remember?

00;31;47;16 - 00;31;49;24
Speaker 3
Hey, dude. And how we built Nickelodeon.

00;31;49;24 - 00;32;14;03
Speaker 1
Yeah, that was the one on Hulu. And then they did another HBO Max where it's like all these kids were getting molested and, you know, like, I still have the nostalgia of loving these TV shows and loving all these things that were created. But, I don't have the, I just don't have the, the, what's it called, like the blinders on anymore, right?

00;32;14;03 - 00;32;14;16
Speaker 3
Right, right.

00;32;14;16 - 00;32;31;14
Speaker 1
Like, the horse can still run the race, like they they don't want them to see what else is around them. but a horse can run without blinders, right? But when they run on the track, they put blinders on them. And, like, maybe now we're in a better place where there's no more, like, separate the art from the artists.

00;32;31;14 - 00;32;32;16
Speaker 2
I mean, of course. Yeah.

00;32;32;18 - 00;32;37;10
Speaker 1
I mean, no one's saying that with dirty. No one's ever, like, separate the art from the artist. Like, well, his art kind of sucked, actually.

00;32;37;13 - 00;32;39;28
Speaker 2
Yeah, we're kind of like, oh, he's there just as a means to an end.

00;32;39;28 - 00;32;42;28
Speaker 1
Yeah, he was a piece of shit. We don't. We didn't like his movies. We like his music.

00;32;43;02 - 00;32;44;00
Speaker 3
Okay.

00;32;44;03 - 00;32;48;25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Even before now. Yeah. There's always kind of like, he just, he has to be the, you know.

00;32;48;27 - 00;32;58;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. So maybe it's a good. I think it's a good thing because it's like, now we're all waking up to, you know, what the fuck did happen to Britney Spears? To make a shave her head off?

00;32;58;28 - 00;32;59;29
Speaker 3
And, yeah.

00;32;59;29 - 00;33;17;19
Speaker 1
No dance in front of a mirror like she's 14. She's now, like, 44 and shit, and you're like, you know, it's good to know these things. So that going forward, you know. People act better. Yeah. You know like I always hate when people talk about like oh you know these kids today they're so soft and yeah. Yeah.

00;33;17;25 - 00;33;33;07
Speaker 1
And I go but that's kind of a good thing is that we're becoming better people. We are becoming more sensitive. And we're not going to have another Harvey Weinstein. You know what I mean? Ryan or Bill Cosby, right? Or you know, daddy.

00;33;33;09 - 00;33;41;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, the entertainment like the I mean, the culture of entertainment is something that's like, it's always like.

00;33;41;18 - 00;33;43;20
Speaker 3
I can't even it's always like.

00;33;43;22 - 00;34;04;16
Speaker 2
it's sad, you know, to some degree. Right? Yeah. Because, I mean, you have these aspirations to be in these positions, and now we're hearing about these things that have happened, and these positions are, like, actually dangerous, right? Because you put in these positions with people that are, like, preying upon you on like, awesome on some other like, not even to just take advantage of you, like monetarily.

00;34;04;19 - 00;34;12;10
Speaker 2
I mean, that that's the surface. That's surface level. That's like, you know, hey, look, you're you're asking to be here. So we're going to exploit you. Yeah. You know that.

00;34;12;10 - 00;34;15;24
Speaker 1
I'm going to steal your money. That guy's going to fuck you in the ass.

00;34;15;26 - 00;34;19;28
Speaker 3
You said in that. And you know, that is.

00;34;20;01 - 00;34;35;21
Speaker 2
Now is the culture. So I was just thinking about it. Like what? Entertainment right there. Like in terms of how it artists, you know, even before I still a little bit now of like how they want to get into the industry. I think artists is that we still live in this world. We still want to be picked.

00;34;35;23 - 00;34;36;19
Speaker 1
Right? Yeah.

00;34;36;22 - 00;34;52;07
Speaker 2
And it kind of puts us in this precarious position of people like, let's be picked by people that are at the top or at a place where we want to be above us, right? Right, right. And it kind of puts us in a difficult position to where, like you, you're in a vulnerable position because you want to be picked.

00;34;52;10 - 00;35;09;12
Speaker 2
You don't even we in a most autonomous like era ever where you can do your social media, you can like, do literally, you can do your own thing and by but it's still that thing in an artist the psyche of like wanting to be picked by some institution or some greater thing about it.

00;35;09;13 - 00;35;09;19
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;35;09;20 - 00;35;17;20
Speaker 2
Validated. Yeah, yeah. And it's sad, you know, because then it kind of allows this, these, these, these incestuous things to possibly happen to.

00;35;17;20 - 00;35;19;04
Speaker 3
You once you just like even.

00;35;19;04 - 00;35;26;02
Speaker 2
You make it all the money. There's some people that like making money, but they want to be selected. But that's still the thing. Overarching. I mean, validate it.

00;35;26;02 - 00;35;52;13
Speaker 1
I think it's, a human thing, but like, you know, even Beyonce, you know, Beyonce is one of the most richest powerful people in show business. And Jay-Z gets on stage talking about it. My wife should have won Grammy of the year. Even she wants to get picked, you know what I mean? Like, even if she wins Grammy, the album of the year is not gonna, no one's going to be like, well, maybe Beyonce is talented because she finally won album of the year.

00;35;52;13 - 00;35;52;28
Speaker 1
You know what I mean?

00;35;52;29 - 00;35;53;28
Speaker 2
Right?

00;35;54;01 - 00;36;08;21
Speaker 1
But even her, she still wants that, that award because it's like, maybe it's symptomatic of how we are here in America. you know, maybe more so than, like, I don't know, I don't I don't think in Malaysia.

00;36;08;23 - 00;36;10;06
Speaker 3
You know. Yeah.

00;36;10;06 - 00;36;16;11
Speaker 1
I don't think niggas in Malaysia are really watching the Grammys being like, what do I want to win? Best Malaysian of the year.

00;36;16;13 - 00;36;18;02
Speaker 3
But but you know what I mean.

00;36;18;02 - 00;36;28;23
Speaker 1
It's like an American thing. We're like, oh, or Western world thing, like, I need this. I need this person to pick me, to validate me. And then I get this award and I get to go look at me. Now I'm, you know, maybe.

00;36;28;23 - 00;36;30;25
Speaker 2
It's a Western thing. Maybe it's like a Western thing.

00;36;30;25 - 00;36;31;01
Speaker 1
I think.

00;36;31;01 - 00;36;34;23
Speaker 2
So, yeah, it's not just entertaining, but it is a Western thing of being. Yeah, I.

00;36;34;24 - 00;36;36;06
Speaker 3
Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah.

00;36;36;06 - 00;36;53;22
Speaker 1
Western thing. I need a promotion from this guy. I need this person to validate me or, you know, and sometimes you do need that, but like, you know, it is like you said, it's never been more accessible now than ever to, like, make it or, you know, do whatever you want to do. Right. But it is it is.

00;36;53;22 - 00;37;14;06
Speaker 1
It's hard to break out of that mindset of I need permission. you know, because that's what we've been kind of ingrained with. And then by we, I mean like millennials and stuff. But Gen Z is a little bit different. But like, you know, it's just ingrained to us. You need permission to do things. I need to say something to someone, maybe from the time of your kid and ask someone, can I do this?

00;37;14;13 - 00;37;14;27
Speaker 1
I don't know.

00;37;14;27 - 00;37;18;00
Speaker 2
That is yeah, yeah. That permission.

00;37;18;07 - 00;37;39;29
Speaker 1
Yeah. And then someone gives you something. Hey, you acted this way. You get a gold star or. Hey, you did this and, you know, you're you're, good. I don't know, I kind of learned a little bit when I was working with children. I kind of saw how it worked with children. and how quickly, like, sort of, like, negative reinforcement can get into a kid's head, and it just continues through.

00;37;40;04 - 00;37;41;01
Speaker 2
Wow.

00;37;41;04 - 00;37;42;19
Speaker 1
life, if that makes any sense.

00;37;42;19 - 00;37;59;28
Speaker 2
No. Yeah. No, I can imagine even, like, just a simple gold star thing, right? Like you did a good job. Or reinforcements of, behaviors that are in a structure that is like it has been predefined, like. All right, for you to get up here, you need to fit these type of things in. Yeah. You can stray away from it or else.

00;38;00;02 - 00;38;20;19
Speaker 2
Or you just even I mean I even from like the teachers or the institution aspect, but just from a like a societal aspect. Right. Like this certain ways. I mean, you know, I goes into so many different cultures, right? Like, you know, if you, you know, you wear the wrong shoes, you know, the gang culture, right? Or like, yeah, there's, you know, so many avenues, like even the way you look at somebody we just talking before this podcast, right.

00;38;20;19 - 00;38;29;08
Speaker 2
Like you look at somebody in the eye. The wrong way. Yeah. You know, so you meant in this neighborhood. Don't look at nobody unless you. You ready to do something?

00;38;29;10 - 00;38;47;26
Speaker 1
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So I mean, you know, like, maybe with Derek Adams, like, oh, you're going to steal with us gold star. Like, this is what I got to do. this is how you fit in. This is how I get. This is how you probably got promoted. You think is the first. You think Eric Adams was the angel and he became mayor, and he was like, stealing.

00;38;47;26 - 00;38;56;15
Speaker 1
That's a novel idea. Like he's probably been stealing. He stole his way to the top. I don't even I don't even get to count mayors the top. But he stole his way to the middle.

00;38;56;16 - 00;38;58;26
Speaker 3
Yeah, and then into the middle. Yeah. And then.

00;38;58;26 - 00;39;19;24
Speaker 1
You know, all the stuff happened and politics around it. And they listed him. You know, I don't know if people remember. I believe when he got backed, Eric Adams was like a corporation, I believe God, I think I think it was either him or was another guy. I forget a hedge fund guy that wanted to win, but but like, you know, the people who backed him, it wasn't like the streets was back in Eric Adams.

00;39;19;27 - 00;39;20;16
Speaker 1
you know what I mean?

00;39;20;16 - 00;39;26;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, I think it was just like, I mean, that, but yeah, probably at best, which is like, he's a black. He's about to be a black mayor.

00;39;26;13 - 00;39;36;23
Speaker 1
Yeah, but that's slowly running out to like, you know, the whole black like he, he was up the did you see the press conference where he was like all those black people around him, and the guy was yelling at him. I was like, this ain't a black thing.

00;39;36;23 - 00;39;37;14
Speaker 3
He said, this.

00;39;37;14 - 00;39;41;24
Speaker 1
Is you a thief, blah, blah, blah. And there was a guy, an older black man there wearing like the kufi.

00;39;41;26 - 00;39;42;04
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;39;42;05 - 00;39;55;27
Speaker 1
And he was rethinking his life. He was like, yeah, listen, you could tell the truth because somebody was yelling at him on a bullhorn. And Eric, I was just sitting there smiling like an idiot, like you know, he does that thing, you know, he speaks, but he doesn't. He. He sounds like. He's like he just learned how to read.

00;39;56;00 - 00;39;56;22
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00;39;56;23 - 00;39;58;22
Speaker 2
That's it. Blinking. Kind of like, you know, very.

00;39;58;23 - 00;40;00;13
Speaker 1
He looks like he's lying all the time.

00;40;00;13 - 00;40;00;18
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;40;00;18 - 00;40;05;01
Speaker 2
He always like nothing's happened right here. He's like a psychopathic kind of like. Yeah. It's like.

00;40;05;03 - 00;40;06;19
Speaker 3
Let's go to city and listen.

00;40;06;19 - 00;40;21;22
Speaker 1
The lawyers got to do what they got to do. Everybody. You're like, you are guilty. Yeah. It's like you can't even you a cop and you never learn how to beat interrogation or not. And to terminate yourself. And I'm like, wow, this is crazy.

00;40;21;24 - 00;40;28;10
Speaker 2
Man. I mean, even when to see the post too, I'm just like, all right. It's no. Yeah. It's we see the the guy with the coffee was like sitting next.

00;40;28;10 - 00;40;48;11
Speaker 1
To he was like he was like three people away. And he just started looking and he could tell he was like, this ain't right. He said, I shouldn't be up here. This man is a thief. And he's like, you could just see him regretting his decision. Like, damn, I can't believe this is where we're at. Like, you know, because it's like, you know, anybody could steal.

00;40;48;13 - 00;40;56;07
Speaker 1
But when especially there's, you know, there's somewhere there's somebody that's like, you know, he's stealing because he's black and you.

00;40;56;09 - 00;40;57;27
Speaker 3
You know that. Of course.

00;40;57;27 - 00;41;03;08
Speaker 1
So like when black people commit a crime there's always like that extra pressure of like you know he did it because he's black.

00;41;03;14 - 00;41;08;24
Speaker 3
And white mayors. They, they steal. They. I'm just saying I'm not saying Bill de.

00;41;08;24 - 00;41;10;23
Speaker 1
Blasio was good, and I'm saying Bloomberg was good.

00;41;10;23 - 00;41;25;12
Speaker 3
But they didn't steal stuff. Okay. Moving on. Oh, you kind of get to what you like. And what are you going to do? I mean, I'm not a racist guy like you put two and two together and and, you know, just what do you want me to do? Yeah. Do you just. This is what it is, you know, black and steely.

00;41;25;13 - 00;41;26;00
Speaker 3
Yeah. Let me tell.

00;41;26;00 - 00;41;27;20
Speaker 1
You, from my grandmother, she was fucking.

00;41;27;22 - 00;41;39;02
Speaker 3
You know, I mean, I'm not fucking racist, you know? She I was, you know. But what do you always say when me say it's been going on for years?

00;41;39;04 - 00;41;40;04
Speaker 1
I'm not sure. So, you know, I got.

00;41;40;04 - 00;41;46;09
Speaker 3
A black girlfriend, you know, bless us all. But I don't leave my shit out around that. You see what I'm saying? you can't leave.

00;41;46;09 - 00;41;51;26
Speaker 1
Gandhi out in front of my fucking black person.

00;41;51;29 - 00;41;55;10
Speaker 3
can't kill if I can't in front of a me. It's like leaving a.

00;41;55;10 - 00;41;57;07
Speaker 1
Banana in front of these people.

00;41;57;10 - 00;42;03;20
Speaker 3
Excuse me. I'm not racist. Hey, you know. Hey, I'm not racist. Go on. You know, next thing you.

00;42;03;20 - 00;42;06;17
Speaker 1
Know, you got this Kamala, bro. Yeah. Okay. All right.

00;42;06;20 - 00;42;10;08
Speaker 3
come on. You know, she changes the fucking future. come on now.

00;42;10;10 - 00;42;11;27
Speaker 1
You think Aaron God is going to do that?

00;42;11;27 - 00;42;30;05
Speaker 3
Won't she go though? Oh, racist. I want to race. I'm all together, you know? Father's black. And then, you know the Indian part. I don't know, that might save it. Yeah. West Indian, that's as I say. That's black and black. I mean, God forbid, you know, I mean, as in as Indian black. Yeah.

00;42;30;07 - 00;42;31;24
Speaker 1
I don't want to get political.

00;42;31;27 - 00;42;32;14
Speaker 3
I don't get black.

00;42;32;15 - 00;42;33;10
Speaker 2
I'm just saying, you know.

00;42;33;15 - 00;42;42;01
Speaker 1
So. Yeah. So who knows? Like, this is all good. All the corruption of everything is kind of being uncovered. I don't know what they call it. Age of Aquarius or whatever the fuck it is.

00;42;42;01 - 00;42;42;20
Speaker 2
Age of Aquarius.

00;42;42;20 - 00;42;43;28
Speaker 3
What's that? Oh, they always.

00;42;43;28 - 00;42;46;26
Speaker 1
Say like, we're entering different ages. Like as people.

00;42;46;29 - 00;42;49;15
Speaker 2
But like, that's like decide like, what.

00;42;49;15 - 00;42;53;16
Speaker 1
Does I think? So some like that was like, we're waking up to what's going on in the world.

00;42;53;16 - 00;42;55;00
Speaker 3
Wow. I never heard this.

00;42;55;03 - 00;42;59;02
Speaker 1
Yeah, there's this is some crazy shit. I mean, I'm super conspiracy theories. I look up, oh, you're.

00;42;59;04 - 00;43;02;18
Speaker 3
Oh, this. I'm like super. This is funny.

00;43;02;20 - 00;43;19;27
Speaker 1
I'm a super conspiracy theorist. I believe I believe every conspiracy like like I'll believe whenever someone tells me something. Now on TV, my immediate thought is to go where I know they're lying. But someone on the internet knows the truth.

00;43;20;00 - 00;43;27;03
Speaker 3
Where is the truth? Wait wait wait wait. This is. This is funny. No. You, know why I wouldn't? I would.

00;43;27;03 - 00;43;28;18
Speaker 2
Never assume. Are you saying I'm like.

00;43;28;25 - 00;43;36;23
Speaker 1
Oh, okay. I'm a super crazy theorist. I believe every conspiracy they were like, we didn't go to the moon. I'm like, yeah, that's probably true. We didn't go to the moon.

00;43;36;25 - 00;43;37;13
Speaker 3
What?

00;43;37;16 - 00;43;43;27
Speaker 1
Why would we go to the moon? It doesn't upset me, though. Like people are. I believe the Earth is round. I'm not crazy.

00;43;44;01 - 00;43;45;12
Speaker 2
No no no no no. You. Yeah yeah.

00;43;45;12 - 00;43;50;04
Speaker 1
Yeah. But I believe like, every like I just seen too much on WorldStar hip hop to.

00;43;50;04 - 00;44;01;18
Speaker 3
Not believe things too much. that's the best, source in the world. the the best news source. If you want to get good news.

00;44;01;24 - 00;44;05;04
Speaker 1
WorldStar. Hip hop and Reddit and that's it.

00;44;05;07 - 00;44;09;03
Speaker 3
Reddit. I agree with you. Oh, about number one. What number one.

00;44;09;03 - 00;44;10;14
Speaker 1
Number one is WorldStar hip hop.

00;44;10;15 - 00;44;12;23
Speaker 2
Oh, so you mean you probably got an account on there?

00;44;12;25 - 00;44;15;27
Speaker 1
No, I don't have an account. You can't don't log in because that's how they track.

00;44;16;00 - 00;44;19;14
Speaker 3
But. Okay, but who's watching it.

00;44;19;17 - 00;44;23;19
Speaker 1
And I would but definitely WorldStar hip hop has changed my mind about so many things.

00;44;23;20 - 00;44;27;18
Speaker 3
What I don't wait what what what section you be going to was I hip hop to go.

00;44;27;19 - 00;44;34;21
Speaker 1
To the general regular browsing videos like I remember I found out about Covid and everyone laughed at me. But like happened in.

00;44;34;21 - 00;44;36;12
Speaker 3
February March.

00;44;36;12 - 00;44;43;08
Speaker 1
Some like that. I found out about it. December 2019 I have tapes of me doing jokes about it, just in case anybody wants to see.

00;44;43;10 - 00;44;44;11
Speaker 2
How are you talking about it early?

00;44;44;11 - 00;44;54;19
Speaker 1
I have jokes talking about it because I was watching tapes on world star hip hop about the virus in China and about them disappearing people, and I kept talking about it.

00;44;54;21 - 00;44;56;25
Speaker 3
Yeah. Don't you? I remember you did. It seems.

00;44;56;25 - 00;45;00;02
Speaker 2
Crazy. I ain't gonna lie to you. I remember you did. I, I was not like,

00;45;00;04 - 00;45;03;16
Speaker 3
Okay, this thing is crazy. And I get it. That's what I'm saying, I get it, I.

00;45;03;16 - 00;45;11;01
Speaker 1
Know what it sounds like. It's like the story of Noah, where it's like, I'm not. I'm not saying I was talking to me. Yeah, this is. I'm talking to Q from WorldStar Hip hop. He's talking to.

00;45;11;01 - 00;45;11;26
Speaker 2
Me. Yeah. It was like.

00;45;11;26 - 00;45;33;08
Speaker 1
It was what it's like. It's kind of like if you have something on your shoulder and you can't see it, and you're like, there's a bug on your shoulder, all you have to do is to trust me. Your first reaction is, go. Wait, what did you say? Yeah, like, I don't believe that. Like, it's hard to fathom. Like there's going to be this big virus that's going to shut down the world.

00;45;33;08 - 00;45;39;17
Speaker 1
Something we've never seen before, right? And that's when I've learned. I learned a lot about human nature. When that happens, like.

00;45;39;17 - 00;45;40;18
Speaker 3
Even even when we knew.

00;45;40;18 - 00;45;52;17
Speaker 1
The virus was real, forget about that early. But we knew the virus as well and know we're from China. And then it went to Italy. I just could see the neglect in people's face. In America we go, well, actually it must be a noodles because we going to be all right.

00;45;52;24 - 00;45;58;08
Speaker 2
Oh yeah, we was in and I was in England. But that's what I'm saying. Yeah. That was like right is an upstate. Even if we're still like, oh.

00;45;58;08 - 00;45;59;05
Speaker 3
Well, you know, they.

00;45;59;05 - 00;46;00;12
Speaker 2
Don't come here every day.

00;46;00;13 - 00;46;02;21
Speaker 1
First case was in Seattle, West Seattle where I.

00;46;02;21 - 00;46;04;20
Speaker 3
Live in Brooklyn. Oh. All right.

00;46;04;22 - 00;46;07;21
Speaker 2
Set up other states like so I don't go to upstate. You know, I work in a city.

00;46;07;21 - 00;46;20;08
Speaker 1
And then you remember when I got to New York, remember? Do you remember this? There was a period where they were like, I heard black people can't get it, you know? Yes. At the end of it, we were the worst ones to die from it. And that's when I was like, oh, yeah, that's just a, human thing.

00;46;20;10 - 00;46;20;27
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;46;20;27 - 00;46;45;18
Speaker 1
And you have to let go of, like, just me. This is for for me only. I have to let go of wanting to, like and tell people things or inform people things like some things are just for you to know, and it's okay. Like, it's just it's better. I don't. I'm not saying it's better, but like, I think it might be better to be looked at, to be with the 50 people and Bill and.

00;46;45;19 - 00;46;54;08
Speaker 3
Die should be the one person who's right. It might be. It might be better. I'm just being honest. Like, because you got to think about.

00;46;54;08 - 00;47;10;20
Speaker 1
It like, imagine you're the one person that knows who he is. like, imagine you're the one person that knows who, Drake is really knows who Drake is. Like everything he does. And you want to tell the world, but you can't because there was like, I think I love Drake.

00;47;10;22 - 00;47;11;23
Speaker 2
You'd be shunned.

00;47;11;25 - 00;47;13;07
Speaker 1
Yeah, you could not like.

00;47;13;09 - 00;47;14;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. And people have, actually.

00;47;14;19 - 00;47;30;13
Speaker 1
But that's what I'm saying, right. But it takes another like star of that level to be like, he's a piece of shit and everyone and and not only could he just tell you that he had to make it a song to where you had to make a catchy a minor, you must be true because I'm dancing to it.

00;47;30;15 - 00;47;33;04
Speaker 3
Hey, let's be true in a stadium. Oh yeah.

00;47;33;11 - 00;47;43;24
Speaker 1
That's why I like these women. Come out. Nobody's believes them. It's like you got a bitch. You got to use that talent that you're trying to get in industry with and make in a song. You got to make it a rat, a joke.

00;47;43;26 - 00;47;46;21
Speaker 3
That's what people are here now or something. I ain't gonna.

00;47;46;21 - 00;47;53;16
Speaker 2
Lie to you, bro. I mean, now, when you brought back that coke. Because even for me, I ain't going to lie. When I went. And this is when this one hit me.

00;47;53;16 - 00;47;54;29
Speaker 3
Right.

00;47;55;02 - 00;47;56;20
Speaker 2
When Idris Elba.

00;47;56;22 - 00;48;04;01
Speaker 3
I sick. Yeah. I was like, oh, and that's what I'm saying. It to serve the people. You need to see Tom.

00;48;04;01 - 00;48;06;17
Speaker 1
Hanks get it. When Tom Hanks got Covid and he was like.

00;48;06;17 - 00;48;17;26
Speaker 3
This is real, real. This is real, bro. Oh, that's true, yo. When Tom Hanks Elba I was like, Yo Gotti is like, oh shit. And to certain people.

00;48;17;26 - 00;48;22;28
Speaker 1
Wasn't real till Trump got it. And I was halfway through it and he was on there sucking air at the white House like.

00;48;23;00 - 00;48;23;11
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;48;23;12 - 00;48;33;24
Speaker 1
And when he walked up the stairs and he was sucking air, and that's what that was like to some people, it just it takes longer for them to get it. And for a period I was really mad that, like, people just couldn't believe.

00;48;33;24 - 00;48;35;21
Speaker 3
Me, I remember you. Yeah. I remember you.

00;48;35;21 - 00;48;49;07
Speaker 2
Being very vocal about certain things. Even stocks they use really into like to where you'd invest in some things, stuff that's kind of like this. This is, this is funny. I remember this period of time we use have you really into it and you that's all you talked about. I was kind of like.

00;48;49;09 - 00;48;56;07
Speaker 3
All right, bro. Yeah. I mean, like, they shut up. Yeah, bro. You. Yeah, that's what I'm I get it.

00;48;56;07 - 00;49;00;18
Speaker 1
I now looking back get it. It's like how annoying. No it must have been.

00;49;00;21 - 00;49;01;22
Speaker 3
Oh my god bro.

00;49;01;22 - 00;49;03;08
Speaker 2
I so vividly remember that.

00;49;03;08 - 00;49;09;23
Speaker 3
Broke all reviews going. You had a lot of now looking back at it though I mean yeah you was right about this. Remember that. If not a.

00;49;09;23 - 00;49;22;28
Speaker 1
Lot of it. Yeah. But I think what it was is like, dude, it's not even the worst thing about being right. Like, again, no one wants to be right about a big giant virus killing half the world.

00;49;22;28 - 00;49;24;28
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah, because it sounds crazy.

00;49;25;00 - 00;49;46;25
Speaker 1
Very crazy. But the, you know, you almost wish you were crazy versus being right. Yeah. Because who wants to be right about a virus that kills your grandma and your great grandpa and shit like that? You're like, yeah, I didn't want to. And my mom, I talked to my mom about it, too, because, her one guy she works with, he's Asian guy, and he was buying up all the in 95 masks, and then he was wearing them everywhere.

00;49;46;25 - 00;50;00;00
Speaker 1
And he told my mom I was like, why are you wearing a mask everywhere? He's like, don't you know there's a big virus coming here? And she's like, no, what are you talking about? She thought he was crazy. I talked to my mom about it later on. She was like, I never believed them. He told me so. And that's what it's like.

00;50;00;00 - 00;50;14;17
Speaker 1
Some people need their own Tom Hanks. Like, everyone has their moment where they go, wait a minute. Dad is a rapist. Like, they they just can't. Their mind can't get around, right? Because we build up these things, like these things in our head where we're like, oh, that can't be right.

00;50;14;17 - 00;50;19;23
Speaker 3
Like, what do you mean he's not talented enough to be, you know, mean.

00;50;19;26 - 00;50;37;09
Speaker 1
There's something in our heads where it's got to be broken down. So I'm like, I remember there was a lady on the train. I'll never forget it. Is this homeless lady on the train, and she was like, just crazy or whatever. And then, she sat down next to me. There was an empty seat, you know, the bum cubbies at the end.

00;50;37;09 - 00;50;39;05
Speaker 1
That's what I call those seats at the end.

00;50;39;07 - 00;50;41;27
Speaker 3
You know what I mean? Because, like, do know, you see homeless people on.

00;50;41;27 - 00;50;51;16
Speaker 1
That part of the train and then just, like, covered in so many clothes. Yeah. Like, sometimes I like to go, like, is that actually a human being or is that just a big pile of clothes.

00;50;51;19 - 00;50;52;25
Speaker 2
So you shake a little bit. But yeah.

00;50;52;26 - 00;51;10;24
Speaker 1
There's no winning that game. But yeah, she sat next to me and I remember everyone was looking at me being like, you know, are you going to get up? Like, are you going to walk away from her? Right. And I remember thinking, like, I could get up and walk away, but if I get up and walk away, I'd be like, I'd only be doing it because of how they looked at me.

00;51;10;26 - 00;51;27;23
Speaker 1
Like, I'm not getting up because I'm afraid of this lady. Right? I don't think I'd be getting up because I'm afraid of being sitting next to this lady based on how they're looking at me. So I was like, all right, I'm gonna sit here because I'm not. I don't feel any fear from this lady. Like, not to be mean, but like, I can kick your fucking ass.

00;51;27;25 - 00;51;30;13
Speaker 3
I was just like.

00;51;30;15 - 00;51;50;18
Speaker 1
And she started talking to me, and she just started telling her story, and she was like, she's a stripper. And she, like, went to some event at World Trade Center. And she talked about this guy at the World Trade Center who did something to her. And I think that's what caused her mind to snap. And, you know, she's telling the story as she told me, look up this guy.

00;51;50;18 - 00;52;09;11
Speaker 1
And I was like, let me just see this bitch even. And I looked him up and his had an actual office and World Trade Center. Yeah. I never forget that moment. I'll never forget that being like, you know, everyone's got something that happened to them, and some of us just don't recover from, you know, like, who knows what this man did to her?

00;52;09;11 - 00;52;30;07
Speaker 1
Who knows if he gave her a fucking cocaine or acid or whatever and used her abuser and then, you know, and all she knows is his name. That's it. And I can't be. I can't even tell the story and be like people like, oh, my God, this is bullshit. You know what I mean? They, you know, some people just think like, nah, man, it was just some crazy bitch and you're crazy for sitting next to her.

00;52;30;09 - 00;52;47;21
Speaker 1
that's what I'm like. It's it's not meant for everybody, but is what happened to me on the train one day that now makes me think completely different about being homeless or being on the street or. Or just anyone in general. That's like suffering. Like, you know, Amanda Bynes, right? You know what I mean? This we we all those girls.

00;52;47;24 - 00;52;48;26
Speaker 1
Amazing talent.

00;52;48;28 - 00;52;50;04
Speaker 2
Yes.

00;52;50;06 - 00;52;55;22
Speaker 1
Britney Spears amazing talent, amazing talent. But now you look at them, you going, okay, nigga, what is going on here?

00;52;55;24 - 00;53;01;16
Speaker 2
Yeah. You see so many instances. But then I think you talking about that block. I don't know, something in our mind. I mean.

00;53;01;19 - 00;53;02;06
Speaker 3
Hmhm, you.

00;53;02;06 - 00;53;08;23
Speaker 1
Just don't want to believe it. You. Who wants to believe that? You know, these people are like monsters.

00;53;08;25 - 00;53;23;12
Speaker 2
Okay? It is kind of. Yeah. Also, it kind of puts you on the on the brink, not brink, but like, also in a space where it's like, damn, it is crazy. Not even crazy to to assume. I mean, now is it? You know, I mean, it's just happening. So, you know, it's a safe assumption to some degree. Right?

00;53;23;14 - 00;53;43;10
Speaker 2
But like in terms of my mental energy or soul like spiritual aspect, I just constantly assume that it's like almost is also difficult to be always walking around like paranoid. Right? Like about everything. Like, you know, in terms of like, you know, you talk to this person and this person like, you know, who might that might be this might be the other, you know, somebody might do something great.

00;53;43;10 - 00;53;48;16
Speaker 2
My that might be this, that might be you know, you get to a point where you just like I'm alone with these thoughts.

00;53;48;19 - 00;53;49;17
Speaker 3
And.

00;53;49;19 - 00;53;53;19
Speaker 2
What what is, you know, like it starts.

00;53;53;21 - 00;53;54;25
Speaker 3
altering.

00;53;54;27 - 00;54;14;20
Speaker 2
Thoughts about just our perceptions about reality, if that makes any sense. Like your perception reality becomes. So, like, I won't say tainted, but it's just, like, becomes difficult. You put into it, you put in that filter that that reality to so many different filters that almost it's hard to like, experience like life to some degree, like in a way that's like, I don't know, like calm.

00;54;14;23 - 00;54;28;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. I'm like when you think of, reality, like, I mean, like, you know, pretty much all this shit is made up. I mean, not, I mean, like in life, I mean, just like in Hollywood. That's what it is. Is it? It's a light. It's a camera. Just like this.

00;54;28;10 - 00;54;29;14
Speaker 2
Lights, cameras. Action.

00;54;29;16 - 00;54;47;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, like these moments aren't true. Like, you know, you don't know what fucking J.Lo looks like when she's got diarrhea. You know what I mean? Like, but Ben Affleck does. Oh, I see, you know. You know what I mean? Like you, these aren't. You're only seeing them for 15 seconds. And the rest of their life to us, to them is like being imagined.

00;54;47;20 - 00;55;15;06
Speaker 1
so we can only imagine ourselves in those roles, and we're, like, imagining us with money, us being famous. And we go, well, that that must be the problem with what's going on with me is I don't have enough money. I don't have enough Instagram followers, or this is what's holding me back. So like when we see people in those positions that are successful like that are president or rock star or whatever, we're like, how can you not be happy?

00;55;15;08 - 00;55;29;08
Speaker 1
This is everything I want. You know what I mean? Like, you know, like, I thought this was the cure. The cure is to make a bunch of money and have sex with a bunch of women. And, you know, I wish that was a cure. I wish I could go to a doctor and be like, got athlete's foot.

00;55;29;08 - 00;55;30;24
Speaker 1
He's like, I was like, you need to get more pussy.

00;55;30;25 - 00;55;39;29
Speaker 3
You know? Hey, that would be great. Yeah. I was like, you need to get the bag. But then a doctor. So you go to a girl at a, doctor's orders.

00;55;40;01 - 00;55;43;14
Speaker 1
I might die. They might have to cut my foot off, you know? Give me this pussy, bitch.

00;55;43;16 - 00;55;47;01
Speaker 3
Yeah, you go on a first date. Yeah. What's it start wrapping up.

00;55;47;01 - 00;55;49;29
Speaker 2
You buy a. So I've got this doctor's note, like.

00;55;50;00 - 00;55;53;12
Speaker 3
Well, I can't read it, you know. Yeah, I can't read it.

00;55;53;13 - 00;56;13;18
Speaker 1
I was like, you're going to need a second opinion, but, like, that's what our brains think. Or at least that's what, you know, I think when you when get it maybe into entertainment and stuff like, you know, you think that way but like, you know, there's a lot of people that don't like people on farms and shit that are like the real, like human beings, salt of the earth type people, you know, who wants to live on a fucking farm.

00;56;13;18 - 00;56;32;10
Speaker 1
But I'm just like, you know, that's what you kind of that's what the industry portrays, right? You get this life, you'll be happy, nothing will be wrong. And, you know, slowly but surely, like things that are chipping away at it, like, oh, Wilson, like suicide attempt. You're like, oh, that is, this is wow. Yeah. You're like, oh.

00;56;32;10 - 00;56;33;03
Speaker 3
Why did you.

00;56;33;03 - 00;56;41;24
Speaker 1
These are all people that are famous people that have like, severely depressed, like, my favorite song by Kendrick Lamar is, what's that one? It's like,

00;56;41;26 - 00;56;42;19
Speaker 2
The newest album.

00;56;42;20 - 00;56;45;07
Speaker 1
Like, the newest album is like.

00;56;45;09 - 00;56;45;28
Speaker 2
Dan,

00;56;46;00 - 00;56;48;23
Speaker 1
It's not damn. It's, it's around the big steppers.

00;56;48;25 - 00;56;51;19
Speaker 2
big step. no, no, not regrets.

00;56;51;19 - 00;57;11;09
Speaker 1
I do you dumb your own misery. You guys, can you please get out my home? I don't mean is that fit alone? That's not nice. Find themselves on the phone. And that's why I'm like that album. When I heard that, especially that song, I think it's called Out of Control or Control or something like that. But that song was my favorite song where it's like, you know, he a millionaire.

00;57;11;11 - 00;57;18;21
Speaker 1
He definitely knows millionaires that feel alone. Got a, you know, a bunch of money, but they're like, you know who's my friend?

00;57;18;23 - 00;57;20;01
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00;57;20;03 - 00;57;20;24
Speaker 1
you know what I mean?

00;57;20;24 - 00;57;22;00
Speaker 2
Like, right.

00;57;22;03 - 00;57;37;24
Speaker 1
And you never think about that type of stuff. Like what you have to give up to. You always have to give up something that get something, you know, you want to, go work out. Well, that's time you can't edit a video. You want to go make $1 million? You know, that's time you can't. You know, it's.

00;57;37;29 - 00;57;59;28
Speaker 1
They say time is money, but it's that way, like, okay, you made $1 million, but what time did you give up? You know, maybe it's time with your kids or your family right. Or whatever. Like those things. Now I think are probably becoming more prevalent as you know people aren't even like I don't know if they want to be fucking movie stars anymore, you know, you see Will Smith slap Chris Rock and shit.

00;57;59;29 - 00;58;02;13
Speaker 1
You go like, well, they with it. I don't know if I want to be there. Yeah.

00;58;02;14 - 00;58;05;01
Speaker 3
He's like, yeah what's going on. Well yeah that's interesting. Yeah.

00;58;05;02 - 00;58;14;13
Speaker 1
Like this is crazy that this is all kind of like these things are all happening and being unraveled like pretty close back to back. None of this, you know, make any sense?

00;58;14;15 - 00;58;33;23
Speaker 2
No, I think it is. I think in terms of like, just again, back to perception. Right. like, perception of reality. And it's not like matching the perception or the is being is being like the perception and, and the reality is being challenged by some of these things that you're talking about. And it kind of puts it again, back to this like uncomfortable place.

00;58;33;23 - 00;58;53;23
Speaker 2
I think some people may be in in terms of like, oh, I thought and to in order to be happy, the reality of that is to get money and or and or women or, you know, date the right person. And then that being shattered in different ways, like asymmetrically that we usually like, what is real, I don't I thought money, I've been chasing money in this for a long time.

00;58;53;23 - 00;59;03;10
Speaker 2
And you tell me I'm still going to be depressed out there. So what do I you know what I mean? It kind of puts people in a really uneasy because it's such a easy solution. Right? Or not such an easy.

00;59;03;11 - 00;59;05;01
Speaker 1
Yeah. Rich to die trying, bitch.

00;59;05;01 - 00;59;05;11
Speaker 3
There you.

00;59;05;12 - 00;59;09;07
Speaker 2
Go. Now, you might be get rich and still die, you know. Yeah.

00;59;09;08 - 00;59;10;07
Speaker 3
Fuck.

00;59;10;10 - 00;59;11;14
Speaker 2
So why try.

00;59;11;17 - 00;59;16;09
Speaker 1
To get rich and you will die? It's not as catchy, but you know.

00;59;16;11 - 00;59;16;23
Speaker 3
You know.

00;59;16;23 - 00;59;31;11
Speaker 2
That's like, sometimes, I can imagine difficult for some people. So. Yeah, I understand, we, I understand we come from, like, I mean, difficult, not like in, like, Earth, but like, just in terms of, that being challenged. You still got people, I think, like rich and famous is the end all be all is going to solve everything.

00;59;31;11 - 00;59;47;14
Speaker 2
Well, I think to what you said is that now is becoming more in your face. Kind of like, all right, here's this rich person that's like, to your status. Rich got all the women, the cars. It's not whatever. Yeah. And they are addicted to some things that they still are trying to get out of or something. They are they still sad.

00;59;47;14 - 00;59;48;07
Speaker 2
They still are depressed.

00;59;48;07 - 00;59;56;28
Speaker 1
So or if you want this, it's very simple. I'm going to have Terry Crews coming here and fuck in the ass.

00;59;57;01 - 00;59;58;19
Speaker 3
That's the deal Terry Crews.

00;59;58;25 - 01;00;08;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, he's going to come in here fucking ass. And your life will change. But I'm gonna have a tape of it. You're going to be a star, but you're getting fucked.

01;00;08;18 - 01;00;11;09
Speaker 2
In the end. Yeah. You continue being a star. I we'll get dividends from that.

01;00;11;11 - 01;00;25;28
Speaker 1
Now, the question is, are you going to let your ego hold you back from this bag? And all these bitches, you can have any bitch you want, but you can fucking. That's. I'm serious. Like, that's what these deals. That's what's going on. If you read the daily shit, that's what's going on in these, like, rooms.

01;00;25;29 - 01;00;33;28
Speaker 3
Yeah. I'm going to Ciroc that ass. I so. God, Ciroc is on my.

01;00;33;28 - 01;00;34;20
Speaker 2
Ass is a.

01;00;34;20 - 01;00;36;20
Speaker 3
Wild man.

01;00;36;23 - 01;00;49;22
Speaker 1
The more you learn about this shit, the voice like these, the shit that was going on with data. You know what, though? like, you started going, like, maybe these niggas really aren't that talented. These were just the ones that were willing to give up their ass.

01;00;49;25 - 01;00;56;06
Speaker 2
I ain't gonna lie, because I don't know all the details, but I been here, and, you know, obviously more. I'm nervous to look at it all, man. Like to.

01;00;56;08 - 01;00;58;17
Speaker 1
You should. I mean, I went down a rabbit hole the other day.

01;00;58;20 - 01;01;00;10
Speaker 3
Oh, bro, I.

01;01;00;12 - 01;01;15;26
Speaker 1
because I. Yeah, I've talked to you early. I was like, I mean, my mom like the YSL trial because that's one of the funniest ones. and then we watched the Johnny Depp trial together. Like, she likes trial stuff. I don't like murder trials, but I can get with, like, I guess daddy is a murderer.

01;01;15;28 - 01;01;17;04
Speaker 3
but because he could kill.

01;01;17;04 - 01;01;21;25
Speaker 1
People, too, he's. And also, he's on there for, trying to blow up kid Cody and.

01;01;21;27 - 01;01;22;16
Speaker 2
All right.

01;01;22;16 - 01;01;34;06
Speaker 1
Possibly killing his wife, Kim Porter. And it's crazy. It's like it's a web of, like, how much this guy has done. The TV show is going to be fire. And I don't mean the documentary that 50 cent making.

01;01;34;06 - 01;01;35;10
Speaker 2
Okay. Yeah. I mean, that's.

01;01;35;10 - 01;01;50;00
Speaker 1
Not even I mean like so I don't know who's going to play this, but we're going to need Denzel, Michael Jordan, they're going to play him at different points of his life bro. And the gangster that he is. This movie like mirror how you go like man who's going to play Tupac.

01;01;50;03 - 01;01;52;08
Speaker 3
Yeah. Who's going to play daddy.

01;01;52;10 - 01;01;56;03
Speaker 1
Because this thing is insane. The shit he did.

01;01;56;08 - 01;02;03;28
Speaker 2
Okay I actually question how long you think it take from this from now until when that that when that when that biopic is made about.

01;02;04;00 - 01;02;04;09
Speaker 3
Here's the.

01;02;04;09 - 01;02;14;03
Speaker 1
Truth. Law and order is going to come out with an episode in five months. So that's coming out right away. SVU is going to do an episode about this so fast. And I see you on.

01;02;14;03 - 01;02;17;03
Speaker 3
The news flash. You gave.

01;02;17;03 - 01;02;27;18
Speaker 1
Me evil. Oh shit. Ice-T said it, but I think I think Idris Elba would be great to play him.

01;02;27;21 - 01;02;32;13
Speaker 2
did he now not, like, like for me, like him because he named self love at one point, right?

01;02;32;13 - 01;02;33;22
Speaker 1
Yeah. He was Brother love.

01;02;33;22 - 01;02;34;27
Speaker 2
Okay. So Brother Love said.

01;02;34;27 - 01;02;36;09
Speaker 1
He told us everything we needed to know.

01;02;36;12 - 01;02;37;20
Speaker 2
I mean, that is,

01;02;37;23 - 01;02;38;18
Speaker 1
But, like.

01;02;38;18 - 01;02;40;21
Speaker 2
I wonder, from Brother Love to now you think like that?

01;02;40;21 - 01;02;44;15
Speaker 1
We went so like Brother Love went back to Diddy to P Diddy.

01;02;44;19 - 01;02;47;01
Speaker 3
He did PDB. before we got back to Diddy kind of.

01;02;47;02 - 01;02;51;11
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Puff Daddy didn't have P Diddy that they have Brother Love. Yeah they had.

01;02;51;14 - 01;03;02;04
Speaker 1
Puff. it was like Puff Daddy. Yeah. And then it was like Brother Love. And then I think it was Diddy and then brother or PDT Peter. Yeah, yeah. Which is like.

01;03;02;09 - 01;03;05;23
Speaker 2
And I think he had Diddy at the end or I don't know, that's like just a.

01;03;05;26 - 01;03;17;00
Speaker 1
Diddy. Yeah. Diddy in the last iteration. He's like freezes and you have final forms of evil crimes. Seems like I have to get my final form. But he's he's he was wild out here man.

01;03;17;00 - 01;03;21;16
Speaker 3
So he was Frieza during the the whole Frieza saga. Like Namek.

01;03;21;18 - 01;03;21;26
Speaker 2
Where he.

01;03;21;26 - 01;03;25;05
Speaker 3
Was in the air like in the chair. And that was the first form where, like, the.

01;03;25;05 - 01;03;41;20
Speaker 1
Lawyers form, where he was looking for the Dragon Balls. And then the second form was when he's like, oh, I must fight and reach my power. And it's like, you know, there was different versions of like, yeah, man, this is I'll see you this interview, this I watched this years ago. Yeah. But this, this interview with Jonathan Oddie.

01;03;41;20 - 01;03;59;18
Speaker 1
I don't know if you heard this guy. but he did an interview when he got caught. Trump's Mar-A-Lago, and, you can watch it online, but he talked about it years ago about Diddy being gay. He said, Rick Ross is gay. He said, DJ College is gay. And he said that deejay is like a supporter of Hamas.

01;03;59;18 - 01;04;18;24
Speaker 1
He said, all this 2018, it's an interview because he's interviewed by the Secret Service and you can see it. Whoa. It's the craziest interview you ever see. And he talks about like, the Illuminati and the bully or whatever, which is like, Trump's the black, the black Illuminati, which is called the bully.

01;04;18;27 - 01;04;19;11
Speaker 3
The bully.

01;04;19;11 - 01;04;29;21
Speaker 1
What? It sounds crazy, which is literally Google Play, like, was like a Creole word or a French word. Yeah. If you look it up, it'll pop up on Wikipedia. It sounds it sounds insane.

01;04;29;21 - 01;04;30;12
Speaker 3
Wow, bro.

01;04;30;12 - 01;04;36;15
Speaker 1
But imagine someone told you six years ago. yeah. Daddy is raping men. You would have been like, nigga, you're out of your mind.

01;04;36;16 - 01;04;37;03
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;04;37;04 - 01;04;44;13
Speaker 1
Get the fuck out of here right now. Look at look at the look at it now we're like. Everyone's like, yeah, it's hilarious. It's a joke. He's raping me. And, you know what I mean? Like.

01;04;44;16 - 01;04;56;09
Speaker 2
Yo, I so I mean, all right for you because. All right. Cool. We're both, we're both stand up comedians, right? If you didn't realize already, that, like, because all this is coming out, right?

01;04;56;09 - 01;04;57;28
Speaker 3
Like, how how like, do you.

01;04;57;28 - 01;05;04;11
Speaker 2
Feel about just entertainment, comedy, whatever in general? Because, like, a lot.

01;05;04;11 - 01;05;20;26
Speaker 1
It's a lot of material. But I don't really talk about it that much on stage because I used to. I know when the Harvey Weinstein thing happened and I remember thinking like, oh, this is a lot of fun to like, talk about, because a lot of the comedians won't talk about it.

01;05;20;27 - 01;05;21;15
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;05;21;17 - 01;05;42;28
Speaker 1
And but now so many people are talking about it that I kind of just go, this is this is, I don't know, like, I'm more interested in talking about, like, maybe overall, like the thing we're talking about, which is like, our eyes are being like, all right, these are the things you worship. Like, you know, like biblical, like false idols, like, okay, here you go.

01;05;42;28 - 01;06;14;10
Speaker 1
You want to see how the sausage is made, but on stage, I'm like, I just rather watch other people talk about it. Like, maybe I should talk about maybe me confronting my own, the glorification of, wanting to be in the industry and what I thought was acceptable or what I think is acceptable. And, you know, coming face to face with that or just even, like, you know, like the whole dating thing, like, I think I find interesting is like, you know, people were like, defending him.

01;06;14;12 - 01;06;26;08
Speaker 1
And then when they saw that tape come out, Cassie, that's when it was like, yeah, but you know, like it's kind of crazy. It's like kind of like what happens to, like when black people get shot, you know, they go and come on, police violence isn't that bad. And then they see the tape and they go, oh my God.

01;06;26;08 - 01;06;39;03
Speaker 1
It's like, when are we going to get to the point where we don't need to see a tape? Like, why? Why should we have a ten year old tape of Cassie get our ass beat to be like, okay, okay, I believe her.

01;06;39;05 - 01;06;40;25
Speaker 2
It's crazy. Yeah, it's really crazy.

01;06;40;25 - 01;06;59;28
Speaker 1
So maybe we will like, you know, I'm a little bit more interested in that. Like, why do we need to see a video? Why do why does every cop need to have a fucking camera on their body? And then we need to go. I need to see that tape before I believe him versus the police officer. The police officers who become mayor and steal.

01;07;00;03 - 01;07;00;27
Speaker 3
The good guys.

01;07;01;04 - 01;07;12;11
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? Really? These are the niggas you believe, like, you know, that's why I'm like, something's happened. I think there's a shift happening where, like, people are like, you know, I don't need to see a tape of this person, you know what I mean?

01;07;12;12 - 01;07;17;09
Speaker 2
Because having so frequently, I mean, it's like to a point where it's like, so in an egregious suit when you see the tape, you like.

01;07;17;12 - 01;07;18;17
Speaker 3
Whoa. Yeah.

01;07;18;17 - 01;07;36;01
Speaker 1
You were lying. Yeah, you were lying. And they were telling the truth the whole entire time. And also, yeah, it's it's it's good that we live in this world now. Like, our eyes are just you. You can't. The only thing you can do is, like, have plausible deniability. Where you're actively going, I don't want to pay attention to that.

01;07;36;01 - 01;07;52;14
Speaker 1
I don't want to know about that. But you know you can't on a global scale like with what's going on in the Middle East. Yeah. You know it's no one can sit here and say like oh I don't know what's going on. Right. You know, I don't want to hear that. It's like, well nigga, they don't want to live it like this.

01;07;52;16 - 01;08;09;22
Speaker 1
Yeah, of course you don't want to hear it. But, like, you know, we're getting to the point where younger generations are like, no, it's not okay. Or other people from the nations of, you know, they're like, this isn't okay to do this to people right here. You know, even America or like the guy who set himself on fire.

01;08;09;28 - 01;08;11;17
Speaker 2
Right in front of you.

01;08;11;19 - 01;08;16;06
Speaker 1
Wild. You know, I mean, I knew he was white, though. As soon as he said, I was like, this is me.

01;08;16;06 - 01;08;19;13
Speaker 2
Of course. And and I'm like, let me get gas. Yeah, just. Yeah.

01;08;19;15 - 01;08;22;03
Speaker 1
I think I'm gonna pay for my own suicide. You're out of your mind.

01;08;22;07 - 01;08;22;26
Speaker 2
I got to pay. Yeah.

01;08;22;26 - 01;08;23;23
Speaker 3
You to pay for the gas.

01;08;23;23 - 01;08;28;08
Speaker 1
He would have just held, a Palestinian sign and walked towards the cops. They'd be like,

01;08;28;11 - 01;08;30;27
Speaker 3
Yeah, that would, or hop the.

01;08;30;27 - 01;08;31;16
Speaker 1
Turnstile.

01;08;31;19 - 01;08;35;14
Speaker 3
That goes to 90. Oh, yeah. Oh, the.

01;08;35;14 - 01;08;37;00
Speaker 1
Mayor needs his 290.

01;08;37;01 - 01;08;42;11
Speaker 3
Yeah. Oh oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

01;08;42;13 - 01;08;43;22
Speaker 1
That's why I'm like.

01;08;43;24 - 01;08;44;15
Speaker 3


01;08;44;15 - 01;09;06;20
Speaker 1
There's there's, you know, and maybe it goes in waves, like maybe this happened in the 60s or 70s with Vietnam. And we were just weren't there for it. But it feels like now with technology, these things are like being opened up to where again, and it's probably good for corrective of human behavior. Oh, yeah. Like, oh, I can't be a fucking animal because this camera's here.

01;09;06;22 - 01;09;07;17
Speaker 3
And you need it.

01;09;07;20 - 01;09;08;17
Speaker 2
You definitely need that.

01;09;08;20 - 01;09;24;08
Speaker 1
You need like, you know, if technology has to be the alpha, then that's what it takes. Like if it takes that to be a good person, then you know it needs to be around. You know, I would tell every woman that you need a body cam. I guess at this point, you.

01;09;24;08 - 01;09;43;09
Speaker 2
Know, I mean, because it's crazy out here, it's I mean, even even yeah, even coming back out here and and hearing things and being like, wow. Really? Like, you know, because it just. Yeah, it's just like, yeah, yeah. You know, thank God for technology to be honest. Like. Yeah. Because I mean, we all learn is just by sheer technology.

01;09;43;09 - 01;09;58;28
Speaker 2
It is no technology, bro. It would have been how it was before technology came out. What you would have never known have been I 2 or 3 people bringing it out, we'd be like, you're crazy. Yeah. And by the way, no career for you. And then, you know, you find out, usually never or do some obscure.

01;09;59;01 - 01;10;03;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. You know, you know, or I guess someone's black book or some shit, like.

01;10;03;18 - 01;10;14;18
Speaker 2
They are some or some renegade documentary person who's like, I'm going to expose. It's like, all right, well know that you're doing this. Yeah. You want to listen. You can hinge on this documentary.

01;10;14;18 - 01;10;15;13
Speaker 1
So yeah.

01;10;15;15 - 01;10;19;19
Speaker 2
Hopefully this gets through Sundance or whatever festival or you know that that.

01;10;19;27 - 01;10;25;23
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I was was Will not Will Smith. Will Ferrell is doing a documentary about his friend becoming trans.

01;10;25;28 - 01;10;26;17
Speaker 2
Oh wow.

01;10;26;20 - 01;10;47;10
Speaker 1
Oh yeah, I just saw it's on Netflix. But I go like, you know, this might be something where like, you know, people, he's making a film like this because it's about his friend. But also it's like he's exposing it to a wider audience than anyone else can because he's like, you know, trying to help people understand what happens when, I guess people that are friends of people who become trans go on this journey.

01;10;47;12 - 01;10;56;19
Speaker 1
you know, you go like, this is interesting in a way where you go like, this is more interesting than just being like, all right, we're going to put a trans person in spider man.

01;10;56;21 - 01;10;57;07
Speaker 2
All right?

01;10;57;08 - 01;11;02;09
Speaker 1
Yeah, yeah. Well all right. Well, doesn't seem as interesting as, like, actually exploring what they feel about it.

01;11;02;15 - 01;11;06;20
Speaker 2
Yeah. Because there's obviously a, you know, a series of experience. Right.

01;11;06;22 - 01;11;15;19
Speaker 1
Yeah I mean I, I don't know, you got to really this is got to be committed to because that's a serious. Yeah. That's you definitely feel that shit. You know what I mean.

01;11;15;22 - 01;11;17;02
Speaker 3
You definitely feel. Yeah.

01;11;17;02 - 01;11;19;08
Speaker 2
Yeah. It's it's no joke. That's vice versa. Yeah.

01;11;19;08 - 01;11;27;00
Speaker 1
Yeah I would definitely tend to believe that person when they say I feel like a woman on the inside if they, you know, I'm a woman. I'm like, well, yeah. If you want to call you dick.

01;11;27;01 - 01;11;34;05
Speaker 2
Off and expensive to like the procedures and yeah, the medication everything the, you know, the, you know, the new clothes.

01;11;34;08 - 01;11;35;13
Speaker 3
There's a lot of things.

01;11;35;13 - 01;11;37;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. And famous people like Elliot Page.

01;11;37;17 - 01;11;38;03
Speaker 2
Right.

01;11;38;03 - 01;12;01;01
Speaker 1
Like she was, a woman and a woman and then became a man. Elliot Page and, like, that would be interesting. Like to hear, him talk about it, you know? Yeah, yeah, that's on, like, this. This. I get why like, a lot of the stories now are more focused on gender and sexuality is because it is kind of like, this is like another wall being torn now.

01;12;01;08 - 01;12;20;07
Speaker 1
Yeah. Like how we had the facade of how the industry was about to say, okay, we grew up with there's two genders, this man, woman, blah, blah, blah. and now there's other people growing up with, like, they don't feel that way, you know what I mean? And they feel like, well, man can dress like a woman or whatever.

01;12;20;07 - 01;12;39;08
Speaker 1
I mean, I guess I was going in the 70s too, but I'm like, you know, but now there's no more like two genders. It's like gender fluid or, you know, and they have him. And it's interesting to see that happen. And like, I don't know, like for me, like the wall being torn down in my head of like, no, there's red or there's blue.

01;12;39;11 - 01;12;40;16
Speaker 1
That's it.

01;12;40;18 - 01;12;41;23
Speaker 3
God damn it.

01;12;41;25 - 01;13;06;01
Speaker 1
I mean, like the inner conservative. And you face that and go like, why can't I let go of this thing? especially if it's hurting someone else. Like, all I'm holding on to is, you know, the two options someone gave me, so maybe they didn't know any better, right? You know, and, I mean, and maybe this other person who's actually living the experience is like, no, that's not how I feel or whatever.

01;13;06;05 - 01;13;07;08
Speaker 1
I don't know it. You know what I mean?

01;13;07;08 - 01;13;08;17
Speaker 2
Yeah. No, no, it's don't yeah.

01;13;08;19 - 01;13;15;14
Speaker 1
Like I was like thinking like, you know, the gay guys back in the day that were like that created like, was it voguing? And

01;13;15;17 - 01;13;16;16
Speaker 2
It's like back in the 90s or.

01;13;16;16 - 01;13;34;03
Speaker 1
Somewhere, you know, this is like maybe the 80s, like the Puerto Rican black guys that used to live out in the Chelsea Piers and shit, and they created, what's the shit like they do the death drop, RuPaul like all that, all that culture drag, all that stuff and everything. And they did like, the, the, the ballroom up in Harlem and Paris is burning and everything like that.

01;13;34;03 - 01;13;51;15
Speaker 1
Oh, wow. But like, essentially that was a culture that was created by a bunch of brown and black gay dudes that was like, shunned. And that culture has now become like, tick tock. Like everyone sounds like a gay black guy from Harlem and in, like, the 90s, like, yes, clean.

01;13;51;15 - 01;13;53;00
Speaker 3
Oh my God. Yeah.

01;13;53;00 - 01;14;13;00
Speaker 1
It's giving. It's like. And like RuPaul has like, the biggest show in the world because he's just being like, this was something that was created, and people shunned it. And now this is what happens when, like, it becomes accepted, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, if you data girl, that's all they watch is RuPaul's, Drag Race.

01;14;13;01 - 01;14;14;01
Speaker 2
How are you telling me this?

01;14;14;03 - 01;14;14;20
Speaker 3
So, yeah, that's.

01;14;14;20 - 01;14;17;07
Speaker 1
All I watch is like this that in murder shows, it's like.

01;14;17;07 - 01;14;17;29
Speaker 2
Which is interesting.

01;14;18;03 - 01;14;18;28
Speaker 1
It is crazy. Yeah.

01;14;18;29 - 01;14;20;28
Speaker 3
So, I want to see how I get killed.

01;14;20;28 - 01;14;27;15
Speaker 1
And then I also want to see how a man could be better than me. And being a woman, or so I don't know. So I don't know. I'm a comedian, I don't know.

01;14;27;18 - 01;14;27;22
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;14;27;22 - 01;14;34;04
Speaker 2
We're we're all comedians. Yeah. Yeah. That's preferences comedians. you know, we just, talking and do some of it.

01;14;34;05 - 01;14;34;22
Speaker 3
Something comes up.

01;14;34;25 - 01;14;53;10
Speaker 1
But it's interesting to see, like when the walls get torn down, how accepted it becomes like maybe ten, 20 years later and everything. And like, how it's just like, you know, who knows what's going to happen with, like, Ginger in 20 years from, like, the fuck knows, like it's always a period where things are denied or it's like it's ridiculed.

01;14;53;14 - 01;14;54;00
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;14;54;00 - 01;15;03;04
Speaker 1
And then it's like, I forget the guy who said this, but it's like it's denied, then it's ridiculed, and then it's acceptance truth where it's like, oh yeah, I knew that.

01;15;03;07 - 01;15;17;21
Speaker 2
Which is that is yeah, that is a human thing right there where it's like, it could be a I bet it can be infuriating for some people that have brought that up in the beginning. And everyone's going nuts, crazy. And then like, now, like on the, on the fir the end of it being like, oh, I knew that to be true.

01;15;17;24 - 01;15;19;11
Speaker 2
But no, you did not.

01;15;19;13 - 01;15;22;29
Speaker 1
You that guy that made all that money, Michael Burry during the Big Short. They made them.

01;15;23;01 - 01;15;24;02
Speaker 2
Oh, right. Right.

01;15;24;04 - 01;15;38;25
Speaker 1
He was like, I can't believe this is happening. And everyone was like, yeah, we'll give you credit default swaps. Fucking idiot. And he held on to them for like four years or something like that, or however long you did. And then it blew up and he became one of the richest people in the world. And they go, how did he know this?

01;15;38;25 - 01;15;40;27
Speaker 1
And everyone's like, well, how could you not see this was going to happen.

01;15;40;27 - 01;15;53;26
Speaker 2
Is so hilarious. Like, yo, this is not clear. This is very, you know, obscure, like only a few people. But, you know, in terms of being able to see the writing on the wall before the wall was torn down. And, you know, we will see that the end of it.

01;15;53;26 - 01;16;16;10
Speaker 1
Even the guys in our industry, the Trey Parker or Matt Stone, they knew when Netflix started doing the DVD thing, they were like, this is gonna be huge. They signed rights where they own their rights to like, streaming because this is they were making the show before, but they knew streaming was coming. And I remember thinking to like, you know, we should go to blockbuster.

01;16;16;11 - 01;16;17;05
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;16;17;07 - 01;16;31;12
Speaker 1
So we're old enough to that. Where do you like the experience of going to go pick them? Oh, was it going to be there? Can I get a video game? you know what I mean. And then the game you want, is it gone? So you got to have a second option. Yeah. Like, fuck, I didn't really get it for Friday.

01;16;31;15 - 01;16;32;06
Speaker 2
Like this game.

01;16;32;06 - 01;16;32;24
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

01;16;32;24 - 01;16;43;24
Speaker 1
I don't like this game, but am I really going to do my homework this weekend? Okay. Go to this game and, like, so then I remember Netflix came about and it used to be you put the the you get the DVD out of a box.

01;16;43;24 - 01;16;44;12
Speaker 2
Yeah. Normal.

01;16;44;12 - 01;16;44;29
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

01;16;45;00 - 01;16;48;25
Speaker 1
You used to be like in front of 7-Eleven and shit. He's like, he almost had to get stabbed to go get in that.

01;16;48;25 - 01;16;52;07
Speaker 2
Yeah, right. Even with. Yeah. Redbox issue I mean went out there.

01;16;52;08 - 01;16;58;06
Speaker 1
And then you get out of a box and then you go put it back. And I remember thinking like, this is stupid. This is never going to take off. You gotta.

01;16;58;06 - 01;16;58;19
Speaker 2
Mail it.

01;16;58;26 - 01;17;00;06
Speaker 1
You got to mail it back, right?

01;17;00;06 - 01;17;00;17
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;17;00;17 - 01;17;15;03
Speaker 1
And it's like crazy, so stupid. And then they, they try to video games with Gamefly, but it didn't work. Oh, and then I remember, like, my mom was one of the first people on the block to box. And I was like, we're not going to blockbuster. She's like, no, we got the Netflix thing. And I go, that's not the same.

01;17;15;03 - 01;17;16;29
Speaker 1
You know, I want to go and look at the boxes.

01;17;16;29 - 01;17;20;10
Speaker 2
And and I look behind it and see there's enough there that there's some behind it.

01;17;20;10 - 01;17;20;25
Speaker 3
Yeah, but my.

01;17;20;25 - 01;17;36;22
Speaker 1
Mom's like, the Netflix box is up the street. You want to go to blockbuster, you go blockbuster. Guess you got blockbuster money. You ain't got. You ain't got a card. She got me there. So it just became more convenient, right? And then the streaming and everything coming after that. Like, you know, I got like five streaming services, but it's so.

01;17;36;22 - 01;17;37;04
Speaker 2
Crazy.

01;17;37;04 - 01;17;54;19
Speaker 1
Right? This is cable. But they had the foresight to see I should own the rights to my own streaming like so then I have in the battles that the writers, you know, when had the writers strike? The other day. Right. I think it was last year. They're not having these battles of like, we want residuals from She-Hulk. They're like, we own the rights to all the streaming.

01;17;54;19 - 01;18;00;20
Speaker 1
We can sell it to whoever we want because they knew 20 years ago, this is this is what's coming.

01;18;00;20 - 01;18;02;04
Speaker 2
Into Creators South Park right.

01;18;02;07 - 01;18;03;06
Speaker 1
Now. The creators of South Park.

01;18;03;06 - 01;18;10;20
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Which is crazy because, like, I mean, I bet for them dudes when they when that came out, they probably like the South Park news. What are they doing? You know.

01;18;10;27 - 01;18;40;01
Speaker 1
I mean, no one I mean, again, no one. It was thinking that far ahead. But in their time they went from 90 somethings to South Park came out. Yeah. To 20 years. Something in the business where they're like, movies don't matter anymore. We made movies. They bombed, you know, TV, there was cable and then now there's like, I guess this DVD thing was blockbuster, you know, like, yeah, you know, and they've grown up to where there were no video stores.

01;18;40;01 - 01;18;48;08
Speaker 1
And then they became video stores. And so they've seen enough of it go on where they go, like, remember, like for us, the biggest battle was Dave Chappelle's DVD rights.

01;18;48;11 - 01;18;48;20
Speaker 3
He was.

01;18;48;20 - 01;18;49;25
Speaker 1
Like, I'm not getting money off the.

01;18;49;25 - 01;18;51;14
Speaker 3
DVD. That was while.

01;18;51;14 - 01;19;14;14
Speaker 1
Yeah. And it's like, you know, kids today would be like, why would he even fight for money for DVD? He's like, and everyone owned like the Chappelle's Show season two, season one classic. That's what I'm saying. But nice people don't even know what DVDs or Blu rays are. VHS tapes or like Laserdisc, I was, I, I used to go buy all these are just to listen to directors come into it was I was really weird.

01;19;14;15 - 01;19;15;01
Speaker 3
Whew.

01;19;15;01 - 01;19;15;17
Speaker 2
Damn.

01;19;15;17 - 01;19;32;00
Speaker 1
Yeah, I was really okay. But like those things I think are like, also for for us to look at like foresight, like, okay, we got TikTok, we got we got Instagram, we got whatever it's like. But, you know, Facebook was once something, Myspace was once something, right? Black people me was once.

01;19;32;06 - 01;19;36;05
Speaker 3
They remember that black planet, black planet, bruh.

01;19;36;06 - 01;19;36;25
Speaker 1
Yeah. What happened.

01;19;36;25 - 01;19;37;10
Speaker 3
To black man.

01;19;37;12 - 01;19;39;07
Speaker 2
Meeting me? And when I was like, Spanish.

01;19;39;07 - 01;19;58;19
Speaker 1
Flu, too close to the sun. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm like, right? Boxed in Boston, boxing. That's why I'm like, you know, these things change. They just kind of. They go away. But, like, you got to have the foresight to maybe look ahead and see, like, you know, okay, what? You know, it's like the mayor or the president, they're only going to be here for like, eight years, right?

01;19;58;19 - 01;20;00;10
Speaker 1
Yeah. And if they go beyond that.

01;20;00;12 - 01;20;00;22
Speaker 3
So. Okay.

01;20;00;27 - 01;20;13;28
Speaker 2
So so what do you think is, coming in the future, like, I mean, because, you know, you you obviously, are into the depths of, serving conspiracies, but at the same time, you're a comedian. A very smart one at that. Yeah. You've been in the industry, you know, coming out of LA.

01;20;14;02 - 01;20;14;11
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01;20;14;11 - 01;20;19;08
Speaker 2
Being around it. What do you think is coming next in general, like entertainment wise?

01;20;19;10 - 01;20;20;21
Speaker 3
I think like everything is headed.

01;20;20;21 - 01;20;42;26
Speaker 1
Towards the way of, like, maybe only fans a little bit, where it's like, I mean, that is kind of the model, like you, like, truthfully, like people are on Patreon. That's cool. Let's comment. Like, only fans. Like you pay for my content. It's just not calling it only fans, you know what I mean? But like, you know, Disney Plus is like five, seven, nine, nine, nine a month or something like that.

01;20;42;28 - 01;21;00;03
Speaker 1
But then they got the the I want. I'm a fan of Alex, so I only want I want to give Alex $5 a month. I don't have the overhead of Disney. I don't need to run the theme park. Yeah, you know what I mean. Right. And but they do. So they kind of consistently have to keep raising the price of these things.

01;21;00;05 - 01;21;16;13
Speaker 1
they consistently have to go like I got to keep not only do I have to keep the lights on, this thing has to keep growing. Yeah. Like, if I get, you know, 5000 people to give me, what, like a dollar a month? That's $5,000 a month.

01;21;16;16 - 01;21;17;17
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;21;17;19 - 01;21;22;22
Speaker 1
You know what I mean? I don't need billions of people. I don't need a Alexander Tokyo, you know.

01;21;22;22 - 01;21;23;23
Speaker 3
And Alexander Tokyo.

01;21;23;28 - 01;21;35;14
Speaker 1
So we're. I think we're headed to those places where, like, people can directly go to you for whatever they want and not. And we were there already. But like, I think it'll be like, what's the web? What?

01;21;35;16 - 01;21;38;24
Speaker 2
Three. Yeah, the web series, the next one with, NFTs and stuff.

01;21;38;24 - 01;21;56;21
Speaker 1
And yeah, they'll be I want an NFT of this moment when the, NFT of this thing with, you know, this comedy moment or like, this basketball moment or whatever, like, I know everyone thinks like, oh, that that didn't work. And that was a waste. It's like they said the same thing about the electric car. And look at where we're at.

01;21;56;21 - 01;21;58;20
Speaker 2
Like now it's everywhere.

01;21;58;21 - 01;22;09;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's like it takes 20, 30 years. It's it isn't like instantaneously. And then, you know, it's like and I think we're just headed in that direction of web 3.0 where it's like, I don't know, I've got a coin.

01;22;09;19 - 01;22;13;03
Speaker 3
I it's seriously like, yeah the blockchain.

01;22;13;07 - 01;22;30;11
Speaker 1
Yeah. It's like, you know, that's where we're headed. Like the platforms of TikTok and Instagram. We're going to eventually realize these things don't last. But like where's now this platform or like, you know, whatever. Like, you know, people I'm sure don't want to be on X or Twitter because Elon Musk. So they go, I wish there was another platform where I was just.

01;22;30;14 - 01;22;31;02
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;22;31;03 - 01;22;36;22
Speaker 1
This thing, you know, and you know, or whatever. I don't like threads. I want to go on just on the threads.

01;22;36;24 - 01;22;45;24
Speaker 2
that's true even. Yeah. Even with even the platforms now, this platform is where I know people are like deliberately not on there. Like, they're like, oh, I only watch things on YouTube and you're like, oh, damn, I got put things on you, you know what I mean?

01;22;45;24 - 01;22;47;29
Speaker 3
Like, yeah, YouTube is.

01;22;48;01 - 01;23;08;10
Speaker 1
I think we talked about a million times. To me, YouTube is the number one TV network station. Whatever in the world like YouTube TV is, is basically cable. But it to me is better than cable. YouTube is great because you can research whatever you want. Like if you go, I don't know, I bought a 1976 Plymouth.

01;23;08;10 - 01;23;32;24
Speaker 1
How do I work on the engine. There's somebody that's done it already to you and you can just, it's like a library of human culture and everything, like comedy specials, like the rights that Comedy Central don't even play anymore. And, you know, like, what's the thing? John Oliver just got upset with HBO Max about putting his clips out on Thursday instead of right after on YouTube.

01;23;32;27 - 01;23;33;26
Speaker 3
even he who.

01;23;33;26 - 01;23;40;29
Speaker 1
Has a TV show who's won Emmys is going, this shit needs to be on YouTube, but they're holding back so people will watch it on HBO Max.

01;23;40;29 - 01;23;42;19
Speaker 3
Yeah, yeah.

01;23;42;20 - 01;23;44;07
Speaker 2
They've been playing that game. Yeah, but.

01;23;44;07 - 01;23;49;00
Speaker 1
The truth is, people want to watch it on YouTube. They don't want to watch it on HBO Max. It's.

01;23;49;02 - 01;23;54;10
Speaker 2
Yeah. To your point, I think. Yeah, I agree, it probably go even further into like now I want to see on your specific.

01;23;54;10 - 01;23;55;06
Speaker 1
Thing your channel.

01;23;55;13 - 01;23;55;27
Speaker 2
Your channel.

01;23;55;27 - 01;24;06;22
Speaker 1
One channel. Yeah. I don't want Disney Plus. I don't want to watch them. All right. I don't want to watch these mega corporations. You know, I want to see you get rich. I don't want to see them get rich.

01;24;06;22 - 01;24;10;09
Speaker 2
That's a good I mean, same rate for us, right? I mean, you know, because.

01;24;10;10 - 01;24;11;00
Speaker 3
Yeah, this is great.

01;24;11;00 - 01;24;21;12
Speaker 1
This is good for people who make content or consumers of content. Like, again, I can watch like I'm trying to think, what's my favorite thing to watch? I love like the spirituality the Eckhart tolls.

01;24;21;14 - 01;24;22;09
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;24;22;11 - 01;24;23;11
Speaker 1
The, you know.

01;24;23;13 - 01;24;24;06
Speaker 2
The what's.

01;24;24;09 - 01;24;31;00
Speaker 1
Alan Watts and like, you know, the only thing that sucks is the eye space in that because now I can fake.

01;24;31;03 - 01;24;33;11
Speaker 3
I've been seeing some stuff. Yeah.

01;24;33;11 - 01;24;39;10
Speaker 1
Like you listen to Alan Watts and Alan Watts is like, so what if you want to work more hours, you go. Wait a minute, Alan wants never says that.

01;24;39;11 - 01;24;42;02
Speaker 2
I don't think he ever heard hours from this guy, you know?

01;24;42;05 - 01;24;44;23
Speaker 1
Stop being a bitch. You know, that's what I was.

01;24;44;26 - 01;24;47;15
Speaker 3
I said that, yeah.

01;24;47;17 - 01;24;57;01
Speaker 1
I mean, that's what's coming in is. But, like, you know, I think it's good for creators to be autonomous from corporations because we're not corporations.

01;24;57;06 - 01;24;59;02
Speaker 3
Right. Where people who were people.

01;24;59;04 - 01;25;08;27
Speaker 1
Yeah. And, you know, sometimes you just want to make things. To make things. Maybe you shouldn't make things to have a bottom dollar. Like, you know, Disney makes a movie. They go, how much am I going to get back?

01;25;08;29 - 01;25;10;03
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's real.

01;25;10;10 - 01;25;10;26
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;25;10;29 - 01;25;20;20
Speaker 1
I need to sell toys. I'm in the business of selling toys and people coming to the theme park. I'm not in the business of making movies. you know, Disney hasn't been in the business of making movies in a long time.

01;25;20;20 - 01;25;22;28
Speaker 2
So, how am I just on on toys?

01;25;23;00 - 01;25;25;17
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, how much is a movie ticket?

01;25;25;19 - 01;25;27;04
Speaker 3
Oh, you know, I looks.

01;25;27;06 - 01;25;27;16
Speaker 2
Like five.

01;25;27;16 - 01;25;28;01
Speaker 3
Dollars.

01;25;28;02 - 01;25;29;15
Speaker 2
That's something. Ten movies about long time.

01;25;29;15 - 01;25;31;15
Speaker 1
Yeah. How much is a theme park ticket?

01;25;31;17 - 01;25;34;07
Speaker 3
$200 a lot. Yeah. So you got.

01;25;34;07 - 01;25;37;15
Speaker 1
A movie ten times just for them to make what they make of you one time.

01;25;37;21 - 01;25;43;14
Speaker 2
And also, you got to buy their money. You can't even buy. They can't bring us dollars in it. You got to buy like Disney bucks or something that.

01;25;43;14 - 01;25;46;13
Speaker 1
No, you can use. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they do sell Disney books.

01;25;46;13 - 01;25;46;27
Speaker 2
Okay.

01;25;46;28 - 01;25;49;16
Speaker 1
All right. I think you can use regular money. They make sure you can use regular.

01;25;49;19 - 01;25;50;25
Speaker 3
Okay. They ain't going tonight.

01;25;50;26 - 01;25;56;19
Speaker 1
No no no no no. This is what we're going to use. Yeah. You take Disney dollars. We're going to use is this.

01;25;56;19 - 01;25;59;21
Speaker 2
Going to be the same thing we're up charging for it. You know what you spend $2 on.

01;25;59;23 - 01;26;05;01
Speaker 1
Yeah I mean again, they got Disney books. You'll have new books. You know, books we'll spend, you know, Alex.

01;26;05;01 - 01;26;05;10
Speaker 2
Bucks.

01;26;05;15 - 01;26;07;26
Speaker 1
V bucks on two K.

01;26;07;28 - 01;26;08;21
Speaker 3
Wow.

01;26;08;21 - 01;26;13;24
Speaker 1
That's the on currency or you know, these games that are like free to play but you buy skins or.

01;26;13;24 - 01;26;14;22
Speaker 2
Yeah dSLR.

01;26;14;23 - 01;26;15;24
Speaker 1
Yeah. Whatever. Yeah.

01;26;15;24 - 01;26;18;10
Speaker 2
That's not a downloadable content dollars. Yeah.

01;26;18;11 - 01;26;24;11
Speaker 1
Yeah. That's I'm like that seems to be all the world has had it. But you know, maybe that's a good thing I don't know.

01;26;24;11 - 01;26;30;20
Speaker 2
I mean it's a great thing. And I mean, even with what you got going on, like you have, you know, you want half of, sad money.

01;26;30;20 - 01;26;32;00
Speaker 1
Yeah. Well, Steven Zelnick.

01;26;32;06 - 01;26;32;18
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;26;32;18 - 01;26;34;04
Speaker 3
So you seem so like Steven.

01;26;34;08 - 01;26;44;15
Speaker 2
Yeah, definitely. Check them out, Sam. Money. You know, they're everywhere. YouTube, Instagram, TikTok everywhere. And then, you know, also, you got, Metropolis, Metropolitan. Metro.

01;26;44;18 - 01;26;45;23
Speaker 3
there you go, Paula.

01;26;45;24 - 01;26;47;27
Speaker 2
Two metropolitans. Yes.

01;26;48;00 - 01;26;52;21
Speaker 1
You got this up on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok. But really, YouTube follows on YouTube.

01;26;52;21 - 01;26;54;27
Speaker 2
YouTube for both of them. Yeah. There you go.

01;26;54;29 - 01;27;15;28
Speaker 1
Yeah. Sam. Money. We talk about money. me and Steven, we were gone pretty heavily with it during the pandemic, and we try to talk about it and not make it taboo. We ask people about dating, you know, going into debt for it, plans for money, money, stuff. You have kids. So just hearing regular people's opinions on that and the cartoon is just we used to make a web series.

01;27;15;28 - 01;27;37;06
Speaker 1
You were in the web series? Actually, yeah. Then, we realized so many people were like, this is calling you a cartoon. And then Matt started animating, and then we started talking about doing a cartoon. And we've been doing it since, and it's brand new. We think it came out in June and we just, you know, you're able to say things in animation that you aren't able to say as a human being.

01;27;37;06 - 01;27;37;24
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;27;37;25 - 01;27;41;10
Speaker 1
Where people kind of go like, oh yeah, it's a softening it for me. It's not real.

01;27;41;13 - 01;27;43;03
Speaker 2
It's a cartoon that's saying it's not real people.

01;27;43;09 - 01;27;43;24
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;27;43;24 - 01;28;02;04
Speaker 1
Like it's animated, you know, or you can do things in satire that you can't do with, you know, like, again, Bambi really would have sucked if it was regular. Like, his dad just got shot. His mom just got shot. You only made this movie. Yeah, but in Bambi, you kind of go like, oh, yeah, he's a hunter, and he's got to shoot this, which is what we did.

01;28;02;04 - 01;28;03;25
Speaker 2
Make sense. It is what? It's put two and two together.

01;28;03;25 - 01;28;08;18
Speaker 1
Yeah, but if it's just been a guy walking around, he just shot somebody and then just walked off, you would have like, what.

01;28;08;18 - 01;28;13;00
Speaker 3
Happened to that guy? Is he going to jail? Yeah. What's going on with the justice system in this movie?

01;28;13;00 - 01;28;22;22
Speaker 1
Yeah. But like, you know, with cartoons, you can stretch your mind in different ways. So we like doing the cartoon a lot. And also you don't have to be on camera, which is great.

01;28;22;25 - 01;28;26;12
Speaker 2
Yeah. Because I'm not exhausting that to make sure you're, you know, everything's all good and, you know.

01;28;26;17 - 01;28;33;15
Speaker 1
Yeah, you got to match certain frames and, you know, you got to act. You go, okay. And you got to do all this. And you're like, I did.

01;28;33;19 - 01;28;36;20
Speaker 3
I didn't get a haircut this week. Oh yeah. You like.

01;28;36;20 - 01;28;37;20
Speaker 1
That? Yeah. Like you.

01;28;37;20 - 01;28;40;06
Speaker 2
Know. Yeah. It's like, oh my hands actually. Make sure. Yeah.

01;28;40;09 - 01;28;52;25
Speaker 1
You go do all this shit for like, a cartoon. It's just like, let me do the voice. I can have different weird scenarios that I want to think up. So. Yeah, Metropolitans and save money are the two major things that I'm working on right now.

01;28;52;28 - 01;28;56;26
Speaker 2
Nice, bro. Yeah. Nice. And and also too, we've been on tour, so, you know, you don't stamp thing.

01;28;57;01 - 01;28;57;22
Speaker 1
Doing stand up.

01;28;57;27 - 01;29;18;14
Speaker 2
Yeah. Not going to lie to you, man. yeah. If anyone doesn't know, Alex and I was, we went out, to you're about and there's like a well, in the year before you and I actually like, you met a year ago. Yeah. We went to Paris. Netherlands was Amsterdam. Rotterdam went to Paris a little bit further and went to Berlin.

01;29;18;16 - 01;29;27;19
Speaker 2
Went back to Paris. You went to London? I went to Berlin. Right. And then, that was around that time during that moment where, like, my brain was formulating again around like, you know, moving out to Europe.

01;29;27;19 - 01;29;31;10
Speaker 1
So, yeah, when you said you liked Berlin, I knew you were going, oh.

01;29;31;12 - 01;29;33;10
Speaker 3
I he was out.

01;29;33;12 - 01;29;35;23
Speaker 1
He was out there, know you.

01;29;35;29 - 01;29;37;13
Speaker 3
Because, I mean, Berlin's a cool place.

01;29;37;13 - 01;29;41;09
Speaker 2
So he's like, yeah, if you want to be here, that means you are destined to be here.

01;29;41;09 - 01;30;00;15
Speaker 1
You're done. I was like, he's out of it and I don't blame you. Like, Europe is like a nice place. Like it's like, the food isn't poison. the people, they have some sort of like, balance about them. They're all balanced in weird ways. Yeah, but there is a balance.

01;30;00;15 - 01;30;01;21
Speaker 2
A balance? Yeah.

01;30;01;24 - 01;30;04;11
Speaker 1
Like some sort of. Or work life balance or something.

01;30;04;12 - 01;30;05;10
Speaker 2
Definitely work life balance.

01;30;05;10 - 01;30;21;07
Speaker 1
Yeah. Here there is no like you. I live to work, you know, like you got to be hustling all the time. And you see how other people live out there and you go, oh, you don't you don't have to live like this. It's like, okay, but, I get it. But Berlin, to me was just that was I was that was depressing.

01;30;21;07 - 01;30;23;01
Speaker 2
I ain't gonna lie to you. When you said that, I was like.

01;30;23;02 - 01;30;24;04
Speaker 3
Oh, I'm not that.

01;30;24;04 - 01;30;27;03
Speaker 2
Bad. After surviving winter, I was like, yeah, you the you made the right decision.

01;30;27;06 - 01;30;28;02
Speaker 1
When it was crazy. I mean.

01;30;28;02 - 01;30;29;19
Speaker 3
We were there for like a week, two weeks, something like.

01;30;29;19 - 01;30;33;25
Speaker 1
That. We but I was like, that was to me, that was insane how black it got.

01;30;33;28 - 01;30;49;15
Speaker 2
And and you know, and the thing is we went it was fun. Is that at the time, were there everything possibly bad can happen was happening. There was a lot of rain. There was hail, snow like then hail to. It was weird. Yeah. And then again the sky got dark, which is like that is his own thing. So yeah.

01;30;49;15 - 01;31;00;14
Speaker 2
You. Yeah. Your assumption of what it could be is definitely is true. Yeah. That was something I was suffering from that like changes in weather the winter time. And we went there during the springtime. So imagine a winter.

01;31;00;16 - 01;31;07;15
Speaker 1
Yeah I knew I knew right away. That's why I was like, if this is the spring, what the hell is that one right here? I said, no, no, I can't do this.

01;31;07;15 - 01;31;08;14
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;31;08;16 - 01;31;10;27
Speaker 2
He's like, he's like, I do a London Affairs, but not this.

01;31;11;00 - 01;31;31;12
Speaker 1
Yeah, easily. I would easily do. Yeah. I mean and you stuck and you made it work and you're like doing things and you're, you know, like really progressing in terms of like the stuff you're doing here, social media, all that stuff. Thank you man. It's I never had a doubt in my mind at work for you. I just knew for me.

01;31;31;14 - 01;31;38;04
Speaker 2
By me. Yeah. I mean you definitely do anything out there in London, bro. I mean, when was out there, you know, doing time so you could use doing it back to back, killing it every night.

01;31;38;06 - 01;31;45;25
Speaker 1
Oh, yeah. That was only came about because of a positive mistake. Oh, that's what I believe. You know, you got to change that mistake. Yeah.

01;31;45;25 - 01;31;50;04
Speaker 2
You may be a conspiracy theorist, but, you're definitely a positive person, so that definitely balances out.

01;31;50;04 - 01;32;07;10
Speaker 1
I'm a positive conspiracy theorist. I'm not out here like, oh, you know, they killed JFK. I mean, they did it, okay? But I'm like, you know, I'm just out here like, you know, there's things that we believe our own conspiracies that we hold against ourselves. Like, you know, I'm not where I'm at because of this person or because of that person.

01;32;07;11 - 01;32;16;13
Speaker 1
Sometimes it's like, you're not where you're at because you believe those things are holding you back. Yeah, it's like The matrix, you know what I mean? Like you watching The Matrix 25th anniversary, by the way.

01;32;16;13 - 01;32;17;27
Speaker 3
Oh, really?

01;32;17;27 - 01;32;35;15
Speaker 1
I believe it's the 20. It's either the 25th of the 20th and no, come 1999. Yeah, it's 2024. Yeah, I think it's 25th anniversary. It was in theaters like last week. You got to watch this movie every year where you go like you think that's air. You're breathing. It's like, yeah, like I remember when Covid hit and then all the planes and cars were not going anywhere.

01;32;35;15 - 01;32;39;02
Speaker 1
I was like, this is what air smells like.

01;32;39;04 - 01;32;40;26
Speaker 3
This. This isn't it. It was.

01;32;40;26 - 01;32;47;18
Speaker 2
Cleaner. You saw my animals being free, you know? Yeah. Things are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So touch of grass more.

01;32;47;21 - 01;32;55;21
Speaker 1
All that, all that. Like you're like neo. Every person is like neo. You're the one. You can do anything. You just have to believe you can do it.

01;32;55;23 - 01;32;56;19
Speaker 3


01;32;56;21 - 01;32;58;07
Speaker 1
I mean, don't try and dodge bullets.

01;32;58;07 - 01;33;00;08
Speaker 3
But I'm saying like you try it.

01;33;00;11 - 01;33;15;06
Speaker 1
As a metaphor is what I'm saying. It's not you can't jump across. Maybe you could I don't know maybe you could. But I'm just saying like, you know, there's things that you can do if you break down the beliefs in your head and you go, there's no one stopping me from doing these things.

01;33;15;09 - 01;33;16;04
Speaker 3
you could be a millionaire.

01;33;16;05 - 01;33;29;27
Speaker 1
That's probably the easiest thing in the world to do is make $1 million. Honestly. Like, probably the hardest thing because so many people become in their life, there's a lot of people that are millionaires, which means how hard could it be? I think there's probably there's more millionaires than people that have climbed Everest.

01;33;29;29 - 01;33;31;11
Speaker 3
That's true. Yeah.

01;33;31;11 - 01;33;34;10
Speaker 1
So I'm just saying, like, you know.

01;33;34;12 - 01;33;51;15
Speaker 2
And like, I'm not going to lie, man. During that tour when I was doing the tour, man, that mindset. And like, I know you had like the gratitude journal, you'd be right there. Like, you know, I saw you. That really helped me out a lot too as well. So it was dope, like actually be on tour with somebody like, you know, like you that it was very positive, you know, because in comedy that in positivity is like here.

01;33;51;18 - 01;33;52;13
Speaker 1
Very negative place.

01;33;52;15 - 01;34;07;20
Speaker 2
Very negative place. And you just have a person that, you know, obviously the way you perform at things that was like, oh, that was just dope to be in the same place and just like, you know, see you before we perform together, being like in who's traveling, new experiences. Yeah, all of that. I was like, man, that was like really a moment.

01;34;07;20 - 01;34;22;11
Speaker 2
That was like, oh my God. Like almost like close a once in a lifetime, like ten times, just traveling with somebody that like, you know, medical jokes is there to a point like, you know, can we stay in a small ass place in Paris that we didn't really have, like, no butting heads, like it was like very. Yeah.

01;34;22;11 - 01;34;41;03
Speaker 2
I mean, so that was like a dope time experience, like travel to new places, perform it, and then like, you know, just. Yeah, just still continue that journey. I mean, you out in London, Paris doing your thing, you know, me and Berlin whenever, you know, whenever you want to come there again, you know, maybe, I don't know, to time.

01;34;41;05 - 01;34;43;29
Speaker 1
I actually might come back there in the winter time just to see how bad it gets.

01;34;44;06 - 01;34;46;06
Speaker 3
I mean, the comedy wintertime.

01;34;46;06 - 01;34;49;09
Speaker 2
Berlin. Great. Yeah, yeah, this all shows are doing great.

01;34;49;09 - 01;34;58;26
Speaker 1
That's why I'm like, I might actually go just just to see, like, okay, I know, like, all right, we'll be here a week or two and I'm dip in. And then also to see Eunice and all I have seen Eunice and Ludvig.

01;34;58;26 - 01;35;03;25
Speaker 2
Oh man. I mean and yeah, I mean he's, he's doing hours almost every month, any day.

01;35;03;28 - 01;35;21;26
Speaker 1
So that's what I'm saying to go just see that and see people that we did connect with and catch up with them again. And like, you know, that stuff is like, I want to go to, do comedy and stuff, but I'm like, it's more important to do those things in a way. I'm like, oh, no, definitely. Yeah, yeah.

01;35;21;26 - 01;35;27;29
Speaker 1
So I'm like, okay, I should go just for that. Just, I mean, you're offering me like to go a place to stay, and that's.

01;35;27;29 - 01;35;30;15
Speaker 2
One way, bro. Yeah. I mean, you got definitely that place. That's why.

01;35;30;15 - 01;35;36;06
Speaker 1
I'm like. It almost feels like, egregious to not like all you do is spend the money on shoes. Really?

01;35;36;10 - 01;35;37;11
Speaker 3
Oh, sure.

01;35;37;14 - 01;35;48;27
Speaker 1
So, like, I can only wear one pair and I don't even wear them when I travel, so this kind of feels like, you know what I mean? It's like, damn, I'm like, I love shoes. But at the same time, what I love more shoes are new experiences.

01;35;49;00 - 01;35;53;20
Speaker 2
I mean, yeah, I mean, obviously they want, you know, new experiences. But when you look at them shoes, you're like, they're there.

01;35;53;21 - 01;35;58;10
Speaker 1
Listen, man, they're right there. I really just need to make enough money that I can do both.

01;35;58;10 - 01;35;59;01
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;35;59;04 - 01;36;05;21
Speaker 1
I ain't giving up shoes. I am not giving up sneakers. Boy, I know that about myself.

01;36;05;24 - 01;36;07;22
Speaker 3
I mean, because shoes, you get it right there. Experience.

01;36;07;22 - 01;36;10;28
Speaker 2
You got to wait seven and a half to eight hours to get it. And it's a long time.

01;36;10;28 - 01;36;25;14
Speaker 1
And but it keeps you like it fills you up. It's like soup or something. Like chicken noodle soup is like, oh, I feel I feel better after this. Yeah, but a shoe is like, once you get it and you got it, you go like, man, this feels good. But what's next?

01;36;25;17 - 01;36;29;05
Speaker 2
It's like, and after you get that first creasing or you're like, my. All right, well yeah.

01;36;29;06 - 01;36;29;15
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;36;29;16 - 01;36;30;29
Speaker 2
That that you know. Right. Of course.

01;36;30;29 - 01;36;36;22
Speaker 1
But then every time you put them on and somebody is like, damn man, nice shoes. You. Oh yes. Right. Okay. Right.

01;36;36;26 - 01;36;37;17
Speaker 2
Who are you talking to?

01;36;37;17 - 01;36;38;21
Speaker 1
I'm back.

01;36;38;23 - 01;36;40;01
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;36;40;04 - 01;36;41;05
Speaker 1
It's just one pair.

01;36;41;09 - 01;36;41;23
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;36;41;23 - 01;36;43;27
Speaker 2
Just one measure had two because you can't.

01;36;44;01 - 01;36;52;04
Speaker 1
It's hard to do that with trips. Trips are just like the real experience is just for you. Yeah. And the sneaker is, like, for everybody to be like, damn. Okay, I see.

01;36;52;09 - 01;36;53;28
Speaker 2
It all and talk to you different, but you.

01;36;53;28 - 01;36;58;27
Speaker 1
Can't. There's no way, you know, you sitting on a train and somebody is like, yo, nice trip to Paris. Like that's never going to have you.

01;36;58;28 - 01;37;00;27
Speaker 3
See you are. Yeah. It's really important.

01;37;00;29 - 01;37;16;12
Speaker 1
That actually did happen to me. I take that back. Well, I went to Pilates when I came back. Flew back on Tuesday, got back Tuesday night, went to parties the next day on Wednesday. And then the teacher was like, I don't know what you did recently. Maybe you got a haircut or something, but there's something about you. Seems better, seems lighter.

01;37;16;15 - 01;37;17;00
Speaker 1
And I was.

01;37;17;00 - 01;37;21;21
Speaker 3
Like, you know, you just got that. Yeah. You know, niggas in Paris, you know me.

01;37;21;27 - 01;37;38;29
Speaker 1
And that was like the shoes. Yeah. It was like I didn't do anything different. I was excited to go back to the her class and say something about you seem better. And I go, yeah, I was like, damn, I guess I got to keep going back. I got to keep doing. I got to keep doing this, got to lighten muscle or help myself.

01;37;39;04 - 01;37;45;04
Speaker 2
And yeah, I mean, you know, of course it does. You know, new experiences and things. But I have one I have one question to ask. is the question.

01;37;45;05 - 01;37;52;10
Speaker 3
No. Did he did not? No. Sorry. Not fuck me in the ass. I don't know where that baby came from. Oh, okay.

01;37;52;10 - 01;37;55;13
Speaker 2
I just want to make sure. All right, guys, well, this is the end pocket.

01;37;55;15 - 01;38;03;15
Speaker 3
The I imagine. Let's do this whole trip to get you comfortable. Another black. All right, Alex, not to touch about that.

01;38;03;17 - 01;38;06;09
Speaker 2
How was it really in LA when he was living there?

01;38;06;11 - 01;38;18;04
Speaker 3
I got the Johnson and Johnson. I'm sorry. I got it in my arm. Did he got me? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Did he?

01;38;18;06 - 01;38;25;03
Speaker 1
Get me with that damn dirty back, you. Dude, I fucked an ass. I got to go get the Johnson Johnson vaccine.

01;38;25;07 - 01;38;34;28
Speaker 3
Will be the side effects of the Diddy vaccine. Start shaking control. Oh, no. Oh, you just randomly have.

01;38;34;28 - 01;38;36;18
Speaker 2
A lollipop in your mouth.

01;38;36;20 - 01;38;44;18
Speaker 3
It's just. It's just, I'm thirsty. I need some, every every certain part of the year.

01;38;44;18 - 01;38;45;12
Speaker 2
You have a mohawk?

01;38;45;13 - 01;38;46;04
Speaker 3
Yes. Yeah.

01;38;46;08 - 01;38;49;08
Speaker 2
Like what? My hair falling out on the sides, but only half in the middle.

01;38;49;10 - 01;38;52;04
Speaker 3
What's going on? I understand I got a vote.

01;38;52;04 - 01;38;52;10
Speaker 1
Or.

01;38;52;10 - 01;38;54;09
Speaker 3
Die. You don't get it.

01;38;54;11 - 01;39;00;29
Speaker 2
Well, I get us. that's a common symptom. make sure you take a, ten milligrams of this uphill. What's inside? Don't worry about it. Oh, you.

01;39;01;00 - 01;39;15;20
Speaker 3
Got the ditty bags we see, you see them do shake it. And a quarter if, like you, I do that. Did you got the device? You just go watch what you think you do with the hands in a rhythmic fashion.

01;39;15;23 - 01;39;16;10
Speaker 2
You only got.

01;39;16;10 - 01;39;17;17
Speaker 3
It. Did you go, wow.

01;39;17;17 - 01;39;19;21
Speaker 1
Get him 100 cc's a baby, a little stat.

01;39;19;27 - 01;39;38;05
Speaker 3
He needs. Go get him that baby oil. God damn it! I give him stat! They got an inverted bottle. Bottle, baby. Here with the. Oh, you even got a I.V.? They just put it on his body. Rub it in, rub it in. Come on, come on. Massages, nipples. Come on, do it.

01;39;38;10 - 01;39;39;08
Speaker 1
We went to Costco.

01;39;39;08 - 01;39;44;00
Speaker 3
They're out. They don't sell it. God damn it. We need to get a helicopter in here.

01;39;44;00 - 01;39;45;27
Speaker 2
This is my airdrop.

01;39;45;29 - 01;39;47;09
Speaker 3
Box, baby oil.

01;39;47;11 - 01;39;48;11
Speaker 1
My bad. Where are you guys?

01;39;48;11 - 01;39;51;14
Speaker 3
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. This is comedians. This is what we do. We just.

01;39;51;16 - 01;40;15;22
Speaker 2
spiral into something. Yeah. So you, been through multiple different cultures? I mean, obviously la, you know, New York, you traveled around doing stand up. also mentally too, in different, like, you know, for, like, you know, the rabbit holes you gone through with, certain informations also this positive mindset. And so what would be advice you give to your younger self after going through all the things you've gone through?

01;40;15;24 - 01;40;37;27
Speaker 1
I guess the advice I could definitely give my younger self is, Be more positive. You know, like I would say, that was the biggest change in my life was, you know, I remember I think I used to hear people talk about all the time where they're like, you know, you're, you know, what is it? Your attitude changes your attitude or informs your attitude.

01;40;37;28 - 01;40;39;09
Speaker 2
That's awesome. Yeah.

01;40;39;11 - 01;41;03;01
Speaker 1
I figure who said, okay, yeah, somebody something like that. But the way you think about yourself and the way you feel about things that happened determines everything. Like if you think like, let's say. A situation that happened to me the other day, like, so I was working somewhere where someone ended up giving me money for like working the door or a show.

01;41;03;03 - 01;41;18;10
Speaker 1
Someone ended up giving me money or something like that for, the door. Nice. And, you know, of course, in your head you go, I want to keep this money. It's only $5, right? So I feel like I should keep this money, but then I check myself and I go like, well this is a mindset of scarcity.

01;41;18;13 - 01;41;39;17
Speaker 1
Like oh I need to keep this $5, I need whatever a little bit I can get. You know, I need to like like you know, fucking rat. You know, like Eric Adams, you know, you're like, I need this $5, $5. It sound. It means something to me. So I caught myself having that mindset. And then I go right away and I go, oh, my.

01;41;39;17 - 01;41;54;03
Speaker 1
I was like, someone gave me $5, by the way. And I forced myself to give it up, because in that moment I felt myself needing it so much. And I go, I need to let go of this because this is a healthy. And when I did that, the person was like, oh, you know, it was actually crazy. I forgot we were here last week.

01;41;54;05 - 01;42;12;09
Speaker 1
the person who was here didn't take their money. So I'm going to I want to give you, $40. So because I gave a five, I ended up getting like 35 more wow. Or something. Then after that, I don't know why they gave me like 20 more dollars, but that only happened. So I ended up getting like $65 for something by giving them five.

01;42;12;09 - 01;42;19;00
Speaker 1
Wow. And that only happened because I was willing to give up the five. Yeah. And not hold on to it and be like, you know, yeah, I.

01;42;19;00 - 01;42;20;15
Speaker 3
Need $5. I need it, you know?

01;42;20;15 - 01;42;37;02
Speaker 1
Yeah. And that's what life is like. It's like it's kind of like you can go further by letting go of the things that, you know, like, I need this, what I need, I need to be right. I need to be whatever. And I suffer with it a lot, you know? And that mindset change of, like, what do I need?

01;42;37;03 - 01;42;53;21
Speaker 1
You know, maybe I don't need these things because, you know, life is looking out for me or, you know, whatever. Like the God in me or the God in you or whatever is looking out for me, you know, or God in whatever you believe in. You know, even if you just believe in yourself, it's like you've gotten yourself this far.

01;42;53;21 - 01;43;06;06
Speaker 1
So maybe it's not the $5 that got you here, it's you that got you. So that was like an example of like the mindset, mindsets, everything. Yea yea yea yea attitude to that was it determines the latitude.

01;43;06;09 - 01;43;07;25
Speaker 2
Attitude determines your latitude.

01;43;07;26 - 01;43;09;13
Speaker 1
That's it.

01;43;09;15 - 01;43;29;06
Speaker 2
And yeah that's that's yeah that's impactful. You know obviously as a, as a artist performer entertainer standup what do you wanna call it. that positivity and that scarcity mindset. I think it hits all of us in many different levels. And to just realize that, like, you know, sort of Miss Universe God, and you just trust it and, you know, everything will work out.

01;43;29;09 - 01;43;46;09
Speaker 1
Yeah. As long as I mean, long as you believe that, you know, for, you know, you believe that. I mean, some part of you I feel like has it when you first start and you lose that as you go along, because when you first started, you were like, I know I'm funny, I know I'm funny, I know I'm funny, I know I'm funny, I know I'm funny.

01;43;46;11 - 01;43;48;28
Speaker 1
But you're not funny. When you start, you're pretty bad.

01;43;49;00 - 01;43;49;10
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01;43;49;13 - 01;44;06;17
Speaker 1
And as you start getting better at being funny, that need to prove that you are funny or the need to express that you are funny gets replaced with, well, I should get this from my funny, you know? And I should get that from my funny now. And when you first started all you wanted to prove was you. You were funny.

01;44;06;19 - 01;44;21;23
Speaker 1
That was it. That was all. You want it. And then it becomes something else. Like, you know, Beyonce. They all she probably when she is kid was saying. And then it becomes what I need a Grammy now I know I can sing, you know I know I can do this I need, I need album of the year. you know what I mean?

01;44;21;26 - 01;44;38;19
Speaker 1
That's what happens to it. It gets like your your gift or whatever. It gets kind of perverted, but you're the only one that can pervert it. No one else is doing it to you. It's your gift. So, you know, every now and again you got to check yourself and be like, wait a minute, my, am I turning myself?

01;44;38;19 - 01;44;42;25
Speaker 1
Turning turn myself on myself? That that makes sense. Turn my back on myself.

01;44;42;26 - 01;44;43;23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01;44;43;25 - 01;45;00;24
Speaker 1
My true self my like, you know, the person that wanted to do this and just be good at this, you know what am I giving up? Because I feel like I have to give it up to get validated now. when really the only thing you ever wanted to was probably prove something to yourself that you could do it.

01;45;00;27 - 01;45;08;18
Speaker 1
And then you do it, and then now that's not enough. It's like, wow, I was pussy. Yeah, I was awesome. Some baby oil.

01;45;08;19 - 01;45;13;13
Speaker 3
So, you know, whatever. Fuck you get one bottle. No. One more. Yeah.

01;45;13;14 - 01;45;18;28
Speaker 1
Being mayor is not enough. What about $1 million? How about Turkish Airlines flight?

01;45;18;28 - 01;45;20;14
Speaker 2
What about first class business? Yeah.

01;45;20;14 - 01;45;24;01
Speaker 1
What? Not a first class business. You know what I mean? Fuck these niggas. Hey, what about a.

01;45;24;01 - 01;45;25;16
Speaker 2
Hotel on a nice overlooking, you.

01;45;25;16 - 01;45;45;01
Speaker 1
Know? Yeah. Like, you know, probably for him, maybe being mayor was enough or, you know, being whatever, like. And it just becomes this more, you know, some people say like, I feel like sometimes ambition can be like make up for a man, but sometimes it can make, you know, too much makeup can make it look ugly, nigga. Thanks the clown, you know?

01;45;45;04 - 01;45;48;11
Speaker 2
So you need to make that to a statement that's actually.

01;45;48;14 - 01;45;49;13
Speaker 1
There you go. Is dumb.

01;45;49;13 - 01;45;51;13
Speaker 2
There you go. Don't take it. Don't take this statement.

01;45;51;15 - 01;45;52;15
Speaker 1
Alexander. You heard.

01;45;52;15 - 01;45;56;26
Speaker 2
It. Here, here, it here. Oh, my bro, thank you very much for doing this. Thank you so much.

01;45;56;28 - 01;45;57;19
Speaker 1
Good to see you.

01;45;57;19 - 01;46;02;24
Speaker 2
Always good to see you too. You always, always man. Always a good time man. Always a good time.

01;46;02;24 - 01;46;04;19
Speaker 1
I try to be.

01;46;04;21 - 01;46;11;17
Speaker 2
All right guys, thank you for listening to and or watching to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your boy Nya Yeanafehn. Anything. I see you guys in the next one. Peace.