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Third Culture Talk Podcast
From Uzbekistan to NYC, Being a Bukharan Jew, and Growing as a Person w/ Natan Badalov | Ep 69
I sit with Natan and we talk about his upbringing in NYC, interacting with different cultures in Queens and comedy. We also talk about growing as a person, our times starting out in comedy, and more. Natan was the original co-host of Third Culture Talk Podcast.
Natan Badalov is a New York-based comedian and writer. He emigrated from Uzbekistan to the United States in the early 90’s. Since then, he has been featured on Adult Swim, New York Comedy Festival, Chosen Comedy Festival, Funnymmigrants Comedy Festival, and the Laughing Devil Comedy Festival. Natan’s first solo show ‘Connect The Dots’ was part of the The New York Comedy Festival, Rochester Fringe Festival, and was a Y’all Laughter Lab Finalist. He is currently touring it across the country.
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Unknown
But sometimes this whole guy, he throws these gems that I honestly, I like, I didn't even think of. And I'm like one to always be cynical of people, but he just goes like, I remember he said, he goes, how are you? And I go, I'm good. Same. Yeah. Same shit. He goes, yeah, same shit. Every day is the same shit.
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Unknown
But then when you look back, everything changes and then it like, dude, I wasn't ready. Welcome to the Third Quarter Talk podcast. I'm your host now. Yet often this podcast, we talk with people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than it is of our parents, or even back in the day.
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Unknown
So let's get in. Today's episode. It was how you doing it? I don't yeah, yeah. Good man. Thanks for having me on the podcast. This isn't my first time on the podcast. But it's good to. It's good to be back. And be back on the pub. This is the first time in Germany. Yeah, my first time here.
00;01;01;21 - 00;01;26;21
Unknown
And it's, it's been a it's just every day I'm learning something, so it's, And not like I had any negative preconceptions of Germany. I've heard many good things. And then it just the history of it and stuff. I mean, I've heard bad things, like in general. Yeah. Of the of the like of the, like last 100 years, but but in general.
00;01;26;23 - 00;01;53;27
Unknown
Yeah, it's just all learning all, all day, every day learning. Just go on. And just random historical sites, random tours, museums, all of it. And yeah, it's, I think and subconsciously it's something I wanted to do. I wanted to learn more because there's only so much learning you can do by yourself and on books and stuff like that.
00;01;54;00 - 00;02;14;13
Unknown
And unless you actually go there and see it and talk to people and stuff like that, only then can you actually learn about the history and the people's history and just people in general and culture. Yeah. Yeah, it was, it's eye opening. So what was like the shocking thing you've learned so far since you've been in Germany?
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Unknown
Well, I'll tell you this on the I mean you were there but on stage I had jokes. And the root of all my jokes of Germany were my preconceived notions of Germans. So it was about what I thought Germans were like. That was the root. And when I started telling these jokes, I remember I could tell that this is not it's not some of this is not true.
00;02;41;14 - 00;03;07;06
Unknown
Like German guilt, I remember I, I always thought Germans had guilt, and I remember I talk I said this a few times at shows and I asked, I legit just asked young people. I said, do you have German guilt? And every single young person said, no. And it's not a slight on them, but, I noticed that that's like, it's just a generational thing.
00;03;07;11 - 00;03;28;24
Unknown
And, the, the, their parents are the ones that had it, you know, so whenever I would talk about like, hey, you guys got German guilt, that's like a fucking. It's like when a Brooklyn comics go like, hey, fucking Brooklyn's getting gentrified like this. Been getting gentrified since the 90s. Like, you remember that movie Do the Right Thing?
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Unknown
Yeah. Like, remember that scene where there was that white guy that was going up? Yeah. The brownstone, with the Celtics jersey. Right. And Spike Lee's like, oh, what are you doing? And he's like, oh no, I've been here. It's like that movie came out in the 90s and now people are still talking about, oh, Brooklyn's getting gentrified.
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Unknown
It's it's 30 years. You still tell the same joke. That's like, if I started going, that's what I started sounding like in the gym, like, oh, you guys got German guilt. They're like, dude, it's been almost a hundred years. Why do you keep talking about this? So I, I found that very, very interesting, very educational that, like guilt and association with your country's history kind of kind of detaches more and more.
00;04;17;14 - 00;04;42;02
Unknown
And I think that that happens with, that it seems like that's a good thing. Yeah, it seems like that's a good thing, I think so, I mean, you know, given the past and also not being tied too much to it, you know, it gives you freedom, you know? So, yeah, you don't come in a door and like, oh, you're this, this, this, this is, this is like, or I'm like, I like playing, Jenga, you know, or like, you know, like these weird things that like, animate or something that's like, oh, you're not posing.
00;04;42;02 - 00;05;07;13
Unknown
Yes. There is a big thing now, and I think it's always been like that where, like, just us as people, we just get stuck in the past so much that it prevents us from just going forward. And I think just, that that doesn't even apply to Germans. That applies to any anybody now, like, the wars that are going on, people are just like you're Russians.
00;05;07;13 - 00;05;26;08
Unknown
That means you're this. And it's like, okay, now this is going to be this generation that's going to be impacted by that. I always thought for some reason we'd go, we'd move past this, but it seems like we always go like two steps back when it comes to shit like that, where, I think it has to do with those.
00;05;26;08 - 00;05;45;02
Unknown
My conspiracy theory, where let's do it like the people up top that are kind of like, here's, here's a all right, here's here's what I mean. It was on a podcast. So it's going to be a conspiracy. So so I read a stat, you remember Occupy Wall Street. Yeah. 2000 after the housing crisis. Yeah. Like like two, 4 or 5.
00;05;45;04 - 00;06;01;21
Unknown
No no no no, no sooner than later. Oh, right. Right. This is even later. Like after the housing crisis. They were like the banks because of what they they fucked up the system. Right? So they're like, we the banks are at fault. We need to go. We need to go to these parks, Zuccotti Park, we need to go.
00;06;01;21 - 00;06;22;10
Unknown
And we need to like, tell them, you got to change the fucking system. And then it got fucked because everybody it's what happens with people in general. These fucking everybody's like for like two weeks. It was a good system. They were like, the banks suck. Fuck these people, right? The a can I curse on this? I don't know if this is, you know, you.
00;06;22;12 - 00;06;45;12
Unknown
Yeah. Fuck the banks, right? The banks suck. They fucked us with the housing crisis that made, you know, subprime mortgages, all that shit. So let's change this. Two weeks later, it just became the laziest fucking people came to these parks, and they're like, yeah, work sucks. I, I live with my mom, and I don't want a job, and you should pay for it.
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Unknown
It's like, this is the human condition. It's like once it's good, these fucking losers just come over and just fuck up a good thing, right? So that that kind of died, right? Because of that? Because these smelly fucking homeless people ruined a good homes. Because they took pictures of these people and they were like, to the world. They were like, look at these people.
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Unknown
These are the people that are complaining about banks. And then everybody's just like, well, yeah, you got to work there. It's like, that's not that's not what they were trying to do. They were trying to go, look, we need to change the the system, the root of the system. And you guys are taking pictures of bombs that smell like shit.
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Unknown
They smell so bad that when you take a picture, you can see the fucking smell and the image. That's how bad it was. So then after that, there is a if you do a word count or someone did this in the newspapers before, like right after the housing crisis that all this shit happened, they did a word counter of, like how many times the trans issues or, civil rights, like stuff like that, like divisive issues get mentioned in the newspapers and stuff like that.
00;08;09;10 - 00;08;41;14
Unknown
The counter was not that high before this, before the banking and all that stuff. The counter went up like 100 x after that. Because and this is my conspiracy theory conspiracy. They don't want people to do that again because they think that if this, if the poor people actually come by and, like, join forces, bombs and fucking CVS workers, where the fuck also, you know, also other people.
00;08;41;16 - 00;09;03;22
Unknown
Yes. All of the fucking all of the poor people, once they there's more of us. So they once we combine, we can actually take down a system. They don't want that. So what they do is they start going like, hey, trans people exist. You do you have a problem with this? Yes. No. Hey, what is it? What's another one?
00;09;03;22 - 00;09;31;07
Unknown
Racism. Even now in the in America, some people don't even acknowledge that racism exists for like, racism, the South versus the you know, that shit then now the Middle East. Hey, Jewish pals stay Muslim, all that shit. So it's like it's every. And Trump Trump was great for like dividing the country. So every 2 or 3 to four years there was like a new thing and they figured out how to divide the country even more.
00;09;31;07 - 00;09;56;04
Unknown
So now, if you see a Democrat or a or a republic again, you will think, okay, a Democrat is pro civil rights. But not only that, he's pro, whatever. Trans he's pro this, he's pro that. So it's like it used to be Democrat was just like a a financial thing or like civil, you know, but now it's become like fucking abortion.
00;09;56;04 - 00;10;22;04
Unknown
That was a that's another thing. You know Roe v Wade got overturned. Right. So that's my, conspiracy theory and which is probably not that much of a conspiracy. It's actually just this is happening. Yeah. I mean, in terms of, like, how, different, type of movements or so or kind of coalesced to each like, you know, bunched together and like how if you make a choice, you're kind of assume to have all these other, alignments or whatever.
00;10;22;04 - 00;10;39;07
Unknown
Yeah. You know, that is something that makes it more complicated. It kind of goes back to that if you're from, well, you know, like, for example, if I'm African, right, there's like some, you know, just some assumptions or so. Yeah. Which some are correct, but then others are not as 1 to 1. Like just because I'm West African doesn't mean this.
00;10;39;09 - 00;10;58;16
Unknown
Yeah. And kind of not having that nuance in there, you know. So it's like all right. Some African culture. Yes. Like, you know, there's some things that I do, but it's all the things that I don't. Yeah. And I think that nuance especially for like people to like because nuance is such a, unnerving thing, you know, because you got to read.
00;10;58;17 - 00;11;17;04
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, I even read, you know, it's just like the actual is kind of like callousness with acting, right? Where it's like in order to play like a bad character, the first thing you gotta do is not think that this person as a bad character, you have to humanize this person. And to do that actively, it takes like this you got to go to school.
00;11;17;10 - 00;11;45;03
Unknown
But as an actor, like to actually learn how to on paper, this person who textbook is bad, dehumanize this person to play as this person, right? Or to step in their shoes as like a human mental like exercise to be like, okay, this person is this. And I do not like what this represents, but as a person something else which is like, you know, it takes energy and shit, you know, and the person might be an asshole, actually.
00;11;45;03 - 00;12;02;01
Unknown
So then you're like, yeah, but I like, look, I don't even I'm trying my best here. Yeah. And on top of it now you being. Yeah, yeah. Like whatever. Yeah. But all right, so before we go into that though, I'm sorry I got into this culture and I started talking about conspiracies. Right. Well, that's not really a conspiracy.
00;12;02;01 - 00;12;24;09
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. Well, me conspiracy theorists say this isn't really a conspiracy. Yeah, but you don't see it. That's what I am. And so that. Well, I mean, look, some of this is, is, are cultural to some extent, right? I mean, you know. Yeah, I guess you're right, you know? So. But anyways, so before we get into more conspiracy theories, let's set the standard.
00;12;24;14 - 00;12;48;01
Unknown
So just to see where you coming from. Yes. So you born in New York? Oh, no. You was born in. Who was born in Uzbekistan? And then left, when I was one. So all my memories are American. Okay. American memories. American memories. Thoughts? Yeah. So I left, yeah, we left, from Uzbekistan.
00;12;48;01 - 00;13;06;12
Unknown
So I was like, one and a half, like 93. I always say on podcast, like it's a different age. But my mom said, why do you keep saying you left when you were like four or 3 or 5, like does it matter. I was a baby, I don't remember. Yeah I can just make this age up right.
00;13;06;17 - 00;13;37;18
Unknown
So yeah, when I was a baby I left. And you want to know the whole story? Oh, yeah. This is the. So because the former Soviet Union collapsed and, Uzbekistan is, there's a lot of Muslims there. So as it, you know, it gained independence, Muslim fundamentalism started rising. So then, anti-Semitism started rising, which is something you're going to get a lot of clicks on from me just saying the word anti-Semitism.
00;13;37;18 - 00;14;15;10
Unknown
All right? But I'm just saying this is what happened. Yeah. So so then we we left after that. And so then we came to the States and, yeah, I've been there ever since. I remember what was interesting was that, I did a show in front of, Uzbek people there. Jewish, but they. Oh, by the way, I'm Bulgarian as well, I should say horrible foreign, which is like, our name comes from the city of, Bukhara, which is a city in Uzbekistan.
00;14;15;12 - 00;14;48;20
Unknown
And, we have Persian roots, like, grew from many centuries ago. That's why I look. I have, like, Persian features. Okay. Foreign speak Persian. Sorry, we can't speak Farsi, which is a dialect which has Persian in it. So when when an Iranian can hear Bulgarian speak, they can basically understand what they're saying. Oh, wow. So Bulgarians actually, at the time, they, I think they from what they spoke Russian, which is the Soviet, national language.
00;14;48;21 - 00;15;12;26
Unknown
Right. Who's back? Which is their language. And then, what is it, Russian, Uzbek and Farsi. So three and probably even more because I remember there's a, you know, there's Tajik because they're all neighboring countries, Tajik, Kazakh, they all have their own language. But still underneath that Persian like no not far. No. Oh okay.
00;15;12;27 - 00;15;36;11
Unknown
No. Uzbek. Tajik. Kazakh. All it's separate. They have their own roots and that I don't know about. Okay. I don't know about because my, I think my grandma spoke Uzbek and my granddad spoke Uzbek, but it wasn't a necessity because Russian if you're a Soviet Union. Russian, that's them. That's why I speak Russian. Yeah, because they.
00;15;36;14 - 00;16;06;01
Unknown
I mean, my mom speaks to me in Russian. That's like, if you want to put. Oh, I thought that was a red thing. No, no, no. If you want to put call on whatever they're the, the main country. So that's why they wanted everybody to speak Russian. I don't know how it is now, I heard that they mostly speak Uzbek now because they want their own identity and they want their own, you know, kind of they want to kind of be removed from, the USSR or, you know, Russia.
00;16;06;03 - 00;16;38;26
Unknown
So, I don't know. I don't know how that I heard it was, very developed now. Okay. Yeah. Because, you know, I think he actually met her. Dinara. She comes from Dinara. Yeah, yeah. Guys. Kazakhstan. Yeah. Yeah. Because I, I talk to another woman who's, from Kazakhstan too. Yes. And I think like in son about like the language coming from the same, you know, like, you know, like with Latin, you know, like Latin is like another type of so like that those regions have, like some type of language that aligns is not lines up as part of, like even Farsi and other things or like as a part
00;16;38;26 - 00;16;58;03
Unknown
of that tree. Well, yeah, I mean, I, I sometimes I hear Ukrainian and it sounds like Russian, so I'm sort of, I'm sure the root is kind of the same, you know, slot. No. Is a Slavic. I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what it was called, actually, some Slavic languages, like Slavic, something that are the root.
00;16;58;05 - 00;17;21;08
Unknown
Yeah. You know, like there's like, you know, like the Latin is like Latin, there's Slavic, there's, Germanic. Yeah. There's type of like a romance language with Spanish and French and. Yeah. And and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, it's, that's. Well, what else can I tell you about Bulgarian culture? I mean, I am a representative of it, but the problem is, is that, like, I'm.
00;17;21;14 - 00;17;43;16
Unknown
I left, so it's not like I can tell you much from memories. The only memories I have are like, I'm. When I speak to other Korean people, it's always seems like they're more Bulgarian, which is the common, like, immigrant thing where you're not third culture. That's the definition where you don't really feel like you fit in, in your tradition or and you don't feel like you fit in.
00;17;43;16 - 00;18;06;00
Unknown
And, your actual land where you were raised. So I meet Bulgarians all the time, and they kind of look at me like I'm an American, which I'm, I'm fine with. Yeah, I kind of understand that. Right? I don't really feel, ashamed of that. I used to not talk about being behind on stage because I felt that way where I'm like, well, I'm not that boring.
00;18;06;03 - 00;18;37;11
Unknown
But at the same time it's like, that's a definition you put in your own head. That's not, that's you are whatever you feel like you are. So then I started talking about it on stage and Bulgarians were like yeah this is, this is fine. Yeah. I was like oh good. Yeah. Yeah. And if anything they probably, you know, I think like there's always, not always, but maybe also having that same feeling of, you know, because also for me, like my family from West Africa, Liberia and then me being a born in America.
00;18;37;11 - 00;18;53;17
Unknown
Yeah. And then like, I don't know if you experienced it too, but like. Yeah, definitely my name. Yeah. The way I spoke at the time, like, if I say I was from America, people were like, no, you're not. No, no. Yeah. They'd be like, no, you're not like, because I did everything about me. I was so close to that like culture.
00;18;53;18 - 00;19;08;18
Unknown
Yeah. Like I was a first born in America that like the way I acted. Move everything is to the point that people from Liberia thought I was from there. So I was like, in a weird type of space. I don't know if you ever had that, like in terms of when you met like another Bihari in person. Yeah.
00;19;08;18 - 00;19;36;16
Unknown
Or you know, someone from that region, they saw you how you spoke or something, and then they assume you's from there or like I the stereotypes of Koreans are not good. There are a lot of people there. There are always like there is the Italian Americans. That's what people think of is that they're, they're loud. They have gold chains, they have sweats and stuff like that.
00;19;36;16 - 00;20;04;22
Unknown
They are very brash and stuff. So when they see me, they I remember one guy, I had a book. Koreans are known to be barbers because it's, it's a quick trade to get into. And also it's cash. So it's the reason for that. And also, dentist because, there's a specific reason for that is because the water in Uzbekistan was so bad that when you drink it, it's contaminated to your teeth get fucked up.
00;20;04;24 - 00;20;27;18
Unknown
So that's why when the when people from Bulgarians and Uzbekistan, they came to America, they knew that they would get clientele of their own country. Wow. So they would be like, let me be a dentist. It's more money. So then they would become dentists and they would, you know, you trust your fellow country then more so that's why they would go to them.
00;20;27;20 - 00;20;48;05
Unknown
So that's why they would be dentists or barbers and sometimes jewelers. That would be a no. But that's a Jewish thing. Okay. For a so this barber I remember, I was just sitting quietly waiting my turn and he's dead. And then I sit down and it's my turn and I don't say anything. So I'm just waiting. And then he goes, where are you from?
00;20;48;05 - 00;21;10;00
Unknown
I go, I'm from Uzbekistan. He was like, oh, me too. And I go, yeah, I'm into. And he goes, oh really? You, you act Japanese the way you're quiet and you are. You're all of this. What would he say? Because he's Korean, they don't really have a filter. They don't. They don't really say, seriously. Yeah. Not just quiet, but a whole.
00;21;10;00 - 00;21;31;25
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, a whole culture. Yeah. Yeah. I would have thought you were Japanese. Yeah. Not not quite, but. Yeah, yeah. Whoever's quiet is from this country. Yeah, yeah. That is. That's crazy. Yeah. So, I mean, we're we're meeting other friends. I mean, they're usually in New York. They live in, we live in Rego Park, Forest Hills.
00;21;31;25 - 00;21;53;01
Unknown
Right. But I, I grew up in Jackson Heights, which is kind of removed from it. So when I went, I went to Forest Hills High School. I'm giving you the whole fucking. Yeah. Hey, I mean, you know, it's like when I went to Forest Hills High School, that's when it's like half of the school is behind half. And when I met them, I remember.
00;21;53;05 - 00;22;15;04
Unknown
I remember my mom speaks to me like she's very is a big emphasis on education and manners and all this other stuff. So that's what I just assumed. I go to Forest Hills High School. They're saying words that I don't get, and apparently these were all curse words. And I didn't even know these were curse words because my mom never spoke to me this way.
00;22;15;05 - 00;22;33;28
Unknown
Oh, so they started saying stuff like, like when they're playing the gym and the guy didn't pass the ball is like, yeah, they're they're just jealous, right? And I told my mom, I'm like, what is that? And she was like, shocked. While, who taught you this word? It means like pedophile or asshole or something like that. And they all say that mean shit.
00;22;34;00 - 00;22;57;08
Unknown
Yeah. So then they always end their sentences that way. Interesting. But it's considered you considered not a cultured person if you don't speak like if you speak that way, you're like a guy on the street or something like that. So my mom was shocked when she probably thought like, oh, you're going to learn with Bulgarians. But she probably was like, oh my God, they're teaching you the worst things when you take them out of the school.
00;22;57;08 - 00;23;25;08
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. So but it was fine. I mean, you meet the people that you met to connect with. I have a few Bulgarian friends. The Jackson Heights. That's the most diverse place in America. Oh, yeah. Like legit. Like or like statistically. Artistically. Yeah. Per capita, the most in nations. The most nations and any in any out of any American.
00;23;25;11 - 00;23;47;11
Unknown
Wow. Yeah. Jackson. Yeah. For anyone there's no Jackson is in Queens, New York City. Yeah, yeah. It's good food. Good, good. But that's a good thing if you're an immigrant. I don't want to say hide, but you you kind of like you. Being different is not a big deal. So you never. I never felt like, out of place because I would play soccer with people.
00;23;47;11 - 00;24;14;01
Unknown
Football. Soccer with, people from Bangladesh, Pakistan, Colombia, Guatemala, whatever the fuck. All of it. And it was fun. We would all make fun of each other from where we're from. But it was equal. Yeah, equal opportunity. And I would have friends from everywhere. So if anything, me being with Koreans was the first thing where I was like, oh, you're like, when I was in high school, I was like, oh, you were the same way from the same place.
00;24;14;01 - 00;24;43;22
Unknown
We have common ancestry and stuff like that. So that's something I, I experienced when I went to high school. More. Yeah. But, before high school, you just, like, kind of everybody is like, just. Oh, yeah, you know? Yeah. Mixed in everything. Yeah, yeah, I think that's a good thing. Oh, yeah. Very good. Yeah. I think that's a good thing about living in New York, because it just different colors, different, you know, sexualities different everything.
00;24;43;22 - 00;25;08;29
Unknown
You just it's commonplace. So you're not like taken aback by anything or anybody, you know, which is similar to Berlin. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Berlin is it is definitely different. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's everything here. Everything here. And, everybody seems to I mean, I don't know, I, I've been here for a week, so I don't know.
00;25;09;01 - 00;25;38;12
Unknown
But. Yeah, from the way I see it, it seems like everybody seems to be like getting along to a certain extent. Yeah. Like New York. Yeah. I'd say that, be, also adds to it is that is not as is not as capitalistic. I mean, if anything is. Oh, so that's like one that is, is actually kind of crazy because especially like when grew up in a place in New York City or, you know, you born there, me just, you know, living there for a while that you just you don't realize that it's like another way of life or so.
00;25;38;12 - 00;25;57;27
Unknown
Yeah, but you read in a book, but like to actually, like being a place where it's like free, open. Yeah. Has some elements of New York City or are the cities in America and, and still be like, mostly socialist? Yeah. It's like very like. All right. I mean, it's. Yeah. It's not predatory. Yeah, yeah. I don't even call it predatory.
00;25;57;27 - 00;26;11;29
Unknown
It's more like the. Because even the simple things kind of like. All right, hey, you have a business like. Hey. So don't you want some money? No. It's okay. You like this kind of beer? I like this kind of beer. So. Yeah, you could do your thing here. And it's kind of like. So based on the, like, so easy.
00;26;11;29 - 00;26;33;16
Unknown
Even, like, even to that small level of being like. Like, so how you so ask me, like, how do you like whatever? Because I like the same beer, like, I, you know, you judge based on, like, I guess, your character and you having, like, ethics and. Yeah, but like that, like, that's like the main one. So like, even when you go to, like, an apartment doesn't even matter.
00;26;33;16 - 00;26;49;02
Unknown
You can have the thousands of dollars more than the other person if you're not cool. They don't like people are like, nah. Yeah. So then, you know, New York is like, oh, it's all. But I mean, most places in the country, you, you buy in the house, you get outbid. That's a common thing here to like, who are you?
00;26;49;02 - 00;27;03;13
Unknown
Yeah. And then Basil is, which is jarring as an American because you, you know, you we all conditioned to be based on the money or the value you can provide more than someone else. Yeah, yeah. But then when you hear it, it's kind of like, man, but who are you? Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? Sweat. Sweatpants, man.
00;27;03;13 - 00;27;27;06
Unknown
My mom. I don't think so, man. Yeah, she can stay here, but yeah, I did this two days. They care more about who's in their community. Yeah. Unity thinking. I don't think there is any of that in New York. There is. But then there's still like that. We've been raised to have that, competitive thing economically, which, I mean, look, that has pros and cons to it.
00;27;27;06 - 00;27;54;23
Unknown
Like now living here for a while, I can see, like, where the pros and cons, like, come in. I mean, obviously it's a system and it's going to be exploited. Right. But yeah, I would say with Berlin in that diversity, having that not being interwoven in the society is actually something that makes it more like diverse in a way that I don't think New York because, you know, at the day, New York City, man, it's like, you know, still you still striving to be the best.
00;27;54;23 - 00;28;16;10
Unknown
Like, yeah. Now. Yeah. He's yeah, he's trying to be better then, you know. Yeah. I mean, but at the end of the day it's like after a while you just kind of want to live your life. You don't really want. Why do you have to compete all the time? I like I'm 32 now. And even now I'm kind of tired of like, hearing the stories of New York.
00;28;16;10 - 00;28;36;05
Unknown
Like like of people like going ahead just because they have money. And I'm like, oh, what? What is this man like? It just the common story every single time. It's like money, money, money. And, eventually you just go like, I don't want to be a part of this, but you can't. You can't opt out unless you move.
00;28;36;06 - 00;29;06;10
Unknown
You know, if you're in America, you have to have money. And, it's not an option to not have it. It's. Yeah. You know, but, you know, I guess, like you said, there's a lot of negatives probably in this system, which I don't know about, but this is the thing I had a thought of. I think I told you this where, like, the health care, there's a common complaint in European socialized health care in London, too, or they're like, oh my God, I got to wait like a year, or I got to wait six months for an appointment or some shit.
00;29;06;10 - 00;29;35;07
Unknown
It's like, yeah, we don't have to wait because we need it right away. We need our food is poison, right? We're fucking. We're all fat. We're fatter than we should be. We're all like three croissants away from being diabetic, right? So so so so it's like we have all these things against us. As a human. I mean, how many fucking stories do you hear about like these?
00;29;35;07 - 00;29;57;11
Unknown
Like, oh, we have to recall this chicken because we found out there's, like, lead in it or something, like, I mean, every every month there's a new one and it's too late. We ate the food. There's a whole, there's a whole, epidemic of us having microplastics in our bodies. Yeah, it's like in my balls right now.
00;29;57;11 - 00;30;19;08
Unknown
I got. But but but this. I'm. I'm not saying this as a joke, but this I another conspiracy theory. It was like, this leads to, like, shit for our kids. Like, if we got plastic in our balls, that means ridges and out plastic. But that's bad. I'm not. And I'm serious. But this is bad for our kids. Like, how do you know this doesn't affect our children, right?
00;30;19;09 - 00;30;42;13
Unknown
No. And so we have all of that, right. Of course we need health care faster because we're fucking like we're about to die, like, every day. So it's just stuff like that. We're, therapy, you know, like, I, I remember in London, someone told me, you have to wait. First of all, they said, you have to tell them your problems.
00;30;42;18 - 00;31;08;19
Unknown
You have to tell a doctor, and it has to be drastic. You can't just say, I have anxiety. And they'll just be like, okay, who gives a fuck? They'll be like, you know, I want to, I want to do something to myself or something like, oh, but again, it's like we in America, we all have these anxiety. We all have depression.
00;31;08;21 - 00;31;36;07
Unknown
Rumination, suicidal ideation, all this shit. And people don't ever they always go like, oh, it's me. It's like I'm feeling this. It's like, no, the root of why you're feeling this is because you are. You're eating poison and you have no health care, and you can be homeless soon. And it's like this is why you're anxious. It's not because it's not because of like, oh, your dad did something to you.
00;31;36;07 - 00;32;06;27
Unknown
It's the yeah, you have every right to feel anxious because there's a lot of things that are, the system about the system that's, broken. So that's why, I keep going back to conspiracy theories, but that's why that's why I think there's such a big emphasis on therapy in America, because it kind of like lets you avoid going back to Wall Street, lets you avoid coming together and going against the people that are actually messing with the people.
00;32;07;02 - 00;32;25;09
Unknown
Yeah. No, definitely. Yeah. Here. I don't see that. Yeah. I mean, there are some things I mean, you know, one thing and I've been on here for years, I don't know. Yeah. But there are some like things of I mean, you know, there's a, there's a big Amazon building that's here or is like that. Right. So like that is once Amazon is somewhere that there.
00;32;25;10 - 00;32;42;29
Unknown
That's the that's the spearhead of like capitalism right there. The minute you have an option to get something. Yeah. Two days, two days in instead of a week later. I mean, that's already. Yeah. And for a human being to be like, no, I won't get this earlier, I'm going to wait for a week. They're going my nuts are you get two days.
00;32;43;00 - 00;33;01;27
Unknown
Yeah, I can get it. Yeah. I'm click like, I don't got paid this many euros. Boom. Yeah. You know that becoming popular here. Oh. Well what. Yeah there me Amazon Prime that is a thing you know. And then like, you know obviously the you know subscription services and stuff. Yeah. Which I mean, you know that's like its own pros and cons and stuff to that.
00;33;02;00 - 00;33;27;26
Unknown
Yeah. I think it's something actually now interesting to be in Berlin to see how capitalism is extending and then because, you know, with capitalism we usually choose and pick which is good and bad, right. Like, like all all of this has been provided mostly by capitalism, right. What, phones and laptop? Yes. My shoes. Yeah. This everything right?
00;33;27;28 - 00;33;44;07
Unknown
And, you know, also then being in a place where, like, for example, like basically the uncapped listening thing that happens here that's very common is like things are closed on Sundays, right? Yeah. And that being like, you know, I first got like burn, it's kind of like, oh wait, just, you know. Yeah. It's like, all right, wait.
00;33;44;07 - 00;33;58;13
Unknown
Well, this is actually. Yeah, they should take a break. Like, do I need this food all the time? Do I need this? Oh. So yeah, it's like back to those things that where you're confronted with certain things where you kind of know why is it closed on Sundays? And then I even put on social media to like, yeah, why would it be open?
00;33;58;14 - 00;34;14;08
Unknown
So people should relax. I'm like, you're but what about the way you do the. No, no, they they don't go. They get enough. They go by that, right. Okay. So I'm used to it. Yeah. I guess I'll just get my groceries on Monday. Yeah. It's like I just wait. Yeah. Just wait. I mean, even the Bible says that.
00;34;14;10 - 00;34;35;11
Unknown
Yeah, I need a day off right there. Just listening to what God said. Yeah, it's more religious. Religious-zionist even, even here in Berlin. It makes sense. Yeah. I mean, we're used to all that stuff. We're used to everything being available all the time, which I think is, I guess, not good. But, you know me, that's kind of funny.
00;34;35;11 - 00;34;59;04
Unknown
Like, if, Amazon just said for one day we're not doing that just to see in America how they'll react. Yeah. Like you got to wait a week for your packages or whatever. That's the only time you'll actually get people to give you that, like, well, hey, like I thought we're talking about real shit. I gotta get my whatever, and you get my phone so I can talk about this real shit on tick tock.
00;34;59;06 - 00;35;14;02
Unknown
Yeah. So, yeah, I. I didn't even realize I'm starting to sound like a socialist now, or I'm talking shit about, like, the system and shit like that. I usually make fun of these people. And then I just ended up becoming one. I mean, once you come visit and you actually live in a place you kind of like,
00;35;14;04 - 00;35;33;13
Unknown
I did not know. Life could be this way. Yeah, I used to. I don't like when I see for, foreign, but yeah, I guess foreign comics come to America and talk shit about our system. Yeah. I'm like, get the get the fuck out. Like, what do you. Why do you keep talking about, like, nobody told you to come here?
00;35;33;15 - 00;35;58;25
Unknown
Yeah, but now that I see where they're coming from in terms of, like how the government can be, it's, it is, it is quite or what it's capable of. It is. It's good to see that certain things do work better in other countries. It does show you how broken of the city. I mean, especially in New York.
00;35;58;25 - 00;36;27;06
Unknown
I mean, like like, bro, I, I, I unequivocally do think that it is like a broken it's a the infrastructure. Everything about it is completely broken. Like it's the subways to even say like, hey, can you not have can you do something about the rats? That's like a weird, like, why would you why are you not here? There's like certain Instagram pages that like show New York and they're like, oh, New York is crazy.
00;36;27;06 - 00;36;48;08
Unknown
I'm like, this isn't normal. Like, you guys should actually do something. These are like, cries for help. These are these are clowns that are, like, performing in the subway for money. And there's, like, doing flips and then a dog goes after them and then some dumb shit, and you're like, you guys shouldn't be proud of this. This is embarrassing.
00;36;48;08 - 00;37;09;28
Unknown
You're a city. This is you're representing America and this is New York. So this is like considered the greatest city in the world. Yeah. And I'm like, you guys don't. And then but then here's my old man thinking after a while where I just kind of go, like, I can't I'm not I can't keep complaining about this like, nothing.
00;37;10;00 - 00;37;26;25
Unknown
I just got to worry about my own shit. And you kind of go like, look, you guys want to do what you want to do? Yeah, I either opt out or I opt in. That's my. That's my thing. I I'm done. Like convincing people. Yeah. I mean, at some point, man, because, you know, there's so many other factors outside of you control.
00;37;26;27 - 00;37;55;26
Unknown
Yeah. Best thing you could do is like, kind of just, you know, make sure your own circle. Yeah, it's pretty good and you know, and sound I would say. So this is the one thing I think with age and with maturity of something that I think I realized later than maybe I should have or. Yeah, it's like you got to worry about what makes you happy and you got to worry about your life as a singular thing and not worry about things you can't control.
00;37;55;26 - 00;38;10;14
Unknown
I think I was doing that for a while where I was just like, yeah, this sucks. That sucks. Yeah, thanks a lot. Man says, no, you man. You definitely have gone a lot calmer is actually, you know, interesting. Yeah, yeah. It's actually, cool to see because. Really? Yeah. That bad I mean, yeah, it was probably that.
00;38;10;19 - 00;38;30;28
Unknown
Yeah. He was, he was, he was. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was, it was. Yeah. You know, but I mean, that's, you know, it comes with age and also, you know, time experiences and things, right? Yes, yes. Travel, travel helps. Yeah. That definitely travel helps. Oh yeah. Yeah. Travel helps. You know, even when we went out to Barcelona and stuff like this, you know.
00;38;30;28 - 00;38;51;17
Unknown
Yeah. That was a that was an interesting time. You know, some things that are not what, what is interesting time. Yeah. It's always funny, looking back at the, the, the pictures and stuff. Like pictures. Yeah. Even even even the arguments and discussions we had. Because even like me at that point, I'm now changed like, oh, whatever from then.
00;38;51;20 - 00;39;11;17
Unknown
Yeah. Two years, two years. Yeah. It was it two years, two, 20, 22. Yeah. Right. So years ago. Wow. Yeah, yeah. Even that now. Yeah. You know because like traveling more you know different mindset now and things like that. Yeah. Do you feel like you, since you started comedy, do you feel like you've, I mean, you wrote.
00;39;11;20 - 00;39;37;12
Unknown
Oh, I don't remember you being temperamental, even in comedy. Or do you feel like you're. I guess your values have changed, right? I don't yeah, definitely. Values have changed. Like since you started comedy to now. I mean, it had to have changed for you to want to move here. Yeah, I'd say changed. It changed when I first when I, I mean, you know, obviously when I started because we started around the same time, if not same time.
00;39;37;12 - 00;40;01;15
Unknown
Yes. Yes. And then it changed when I came to, Scotland, when I came to Edinburgh, this was before the pandemic. Before the pandemic? Yes. Yeah. I think you were the first one out of our group to leave. Yeah, I think you were. I don't remember anybody else leaving. I'm not even to visit. Yeah, yeah, I think I was like, yeah, I think that was the first one in our group because I went there, I even perform.
00;40;01;15 - 00;40;16;17
Unknown
I just went out there because my roommate was having a wedding. Yeah. And, you know, it was out there, had an Edinburgh Fringe Festival and just seeing art like that, it was kind of like, whoa. And and seeing them, the gays support it in a way to did I see people paying stuff? I was like, oh my God.
00;40;16;18 - 00;40;33;28
Unknown
Like, I don't even know that was even a life. Yeah, that can be had. Yeah. And then that just started the wheels in my head of like, you know, I gotta probably like, move out here even then even bro, I would if it wasn't for the pandemic, London would have been a place I would have traveled to within the next like 3 to 4 years, like 2 or 3 years.
00;40;34;05 - 00;40;49;17
Unknown
That was like a plan where I was like, all right, I gotta find my way. Like I had, like actual, all right, like, because the love you get when you performed at the time in London, like, people will be like, yo, I really like your stuff. Like, you know, come and actually, talk to you. Yeah. Whereas in New York City wasn't like that.
00;40;49;17 - 00;41;10;03
Unknown
No. If anything, they probably reserved it or something, right? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it changed from that point like that change. And then we went to Barcelona doing comedy there that it further changed more then, when Alex and I came out here and did like the little, you know, like Europe tour, we did that. That was a that was last summer.
00;41;10;10 - 00;41;29;21
Unknown
Last, spring. Yeah. Spring. Last spring. That was like permit because I was just like, yeah. It was just like, oh my God. Like what? Like. And then I came to Berlin. That was just, it felt like New York City in some way. But then also to like the comedy and then, you know, also, just again, the love you get and people support you.
00;41;29;21 - 00;41;48;00
Unknown
I was just like, yeah, bro. It's like, change my values a deep love. Yeah. Well, I was like, yeah, bro, let me go ahead and, make this move. So. So when you went to all these places, were you kind of like shopping around to each country and going like, well, do I see myself here? Do I see or is that why you went to so many places at once?
00;41;48;03 - 00;42;07;27
Unknown
It was one place, one time, one trip where you went to maybe 4 or 5 countries or something. Yeah, I think this is the one. Yeah. The one less so where you did you have that in your mind when you were doing that? Oh, did you not? I think that intention I think it was in it got it got put in the background like that move to London or something at the time.
00;42;07;27 - 00;42;28;16
Unknown
So like last year. So when we was traveling it was just more of just like, oh, this is dope. It was kind of like in the moment thing. But I think Berlin was a place where I stayed the longest. And then is where, like, you know, I also, working remotely. So then I was doing that, but then also with, say, you know, Ludvig and Eunice and hanging out and doing like, multiple shows.
00;42;28;16 - 00;42;44;07
Unknown
So I was actually, like here for like a couple, like a couple weeks to where it was like life, like a life started to be formed, like, oh, okay. I know the U-Bahn station to go to. Oh, here's a nice restaurant. Oh, here's a place to go to if I wanna get groceries. So it was like a lot of, like, life things that were happening.
00;42;44;07 - 00;42;56;09
Unknown
And then eventually it was two comedians actually. They actually shout out to them, they convinced me this was like, hey, so when are you going to move it? And I was like, move here again. I'm not even thinking about it. I'm like, well, we talked about moving here. Like, I mean, I don't even know how to do that.
00;42;56;09 - 00;43;12;12
Unknown
It's like, yeah, you can get an artist visa. I'm like, what's that? And he told me, how would you know? You be an artist. You can prove you can make money from a, you can get a visa. So I then then that opened my brain like, whoa, you can it's like, here's the path. Yeah. And then these are comedians telling me to come move.
00;43;12;13 - 00;43;29;15
Unknown
So I'm like this, this type of support don't come like this. Especially when you just met me. Yeah. And then, and then shout out to Tara, she gave me, like, all the details on how to like the. I'm talking about specific like go open his website at this time central Eastern time. You go on this site, you click this button and it'd be available there.
00;43;29;15 - 00;43;49;01
Unknown
It was available. I'm like, bro, yeah, yeah. Once I got back to New York, I literally couldn't get on my mind. Like moving. Yeah. Like it was like a yeah, it was like I made a decision. I think like an hour back in May. So there's like 3 to 4 months and then just left. Did you, did you plan on being here longer than.
00;43;49;04 - 00;44;07;04
Unknown
Because in your trip out of the countries that you went to, you were here longer than any other country? Yes. Between Paris and Berlin. Yeah. I think Paris are like just about the same time. But yeah, it was just a coincidence. It wasn't, like, planned or anything. No, I. What are the prices of this? Yeah. Nah, it would literally.
00;44;07;04 - 00;44;27;12
Unknown
Berlin. I never been to Berlin up until that time. So like, we always, when we were in Barcelona, even that one guy from, comedy club. Mirtha. Right. Matthew Martin. Yeah. He was telling us about, like, Berlin, like. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's like, oh, Berlin. Berlin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I mean, Berlin in our minds, American minds, we think of Berlin, Berlin wall, the wall.
00;44;27;12 - 00;44;43;23
Unknown
Yeah. Fucking war. Like. Yeah. You know, we're like the. But then I think, I think then Alice was like, oh, we should probably do it. So I think I'd say I hit us all up. And then I think some of us are like, you know, thinking about it, but then the timeline and stuff. So it was between just us and then I was like, yeah, fuck, let's do it.
00;44;43;23 - 00;45;03;26
Unknown
You know, this seems like the dope thing. And then Berlin was the one where I was just like, oh shit. So then I ain't had no plans like I had. Berlin was just a place of many places in my brain to just perform it. And then once they other comedians like, oh, you should probably move, I was like, oh shit, yeah, yeah.
00;45;03;27 - 00;45;27;22
Unknown
Because Berlin, I got the most love out here. And I was like, yeah, yeah, that's a good. Yeah. So that's yeah, that's a big, step. Very big stuff to do. Do you like being here? Do you compare it to how you were in New York in terms of the scene? Do you like it more? Yeah, I do, that's that's good, that's good.
00;45;27;24 - 00;45;45;19
Unknown
You know, you probably ask yourself this, but I don't think I ever asked you like, because it's been a year. Yeah. In terms of, like, the scene and the way that people are treating you and stuff. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. It is something that actually that that question I was not I'm gonna say struggling, but I didn't know how to really answer because like distill nostalgic.
00;45;45;22 - 00;46;07;25
Unknown
Yeah. Takes time. I just came back from New York City. So seeing where things are like seeing from outside, looking in and then coming back in and then being like, interesting. Wow. I have my view of the of the scene change. It's change. It changes every year. New York, the scene, the comedy scene. Every year there's a new there's new people.
00;46;08;03 - 00;46;24;26
Unknown
And because there are I have a friend. We still have time. Right. So yeah, I got time. Okay, okay, I don't know. There is two things, that reminded me of that. There is one guy, this whole guy that I know. I always go to him, and I always tell him, like, there is, like, a review of his thing.
00;46;24;26 - 00;46;41;23
Unknown
And I was there, and I'm like, this is like, when I go to him, it's like therapy and a way people always say, like my barbers, my therapist, my barber's Russian. He's a fucking like, we don't talk to each other. Yeah, he does a job. He is a therapist in a way where he just listens to me. Yeah, and that's nice too.
00;46;41;25 - 00;47;01;07
Unknown
But sometimes this whole guy, he throws these gems that I don't like, I'm like, I didn't even think of. And I'm like, want to always be cynical of people. But he just goes like, I remember he said, he goes, how are you? And I go, I'm good. Same. Yeah. Same shit. He goes, yeah, same shit every day is the same shit.
00;47;01;07 - 00;47;26;27
Unknown
But then when you look back, everything changes and then it's like, dude, I wasn't ready. That's an insane. That's so true. And yet it's so. Well, the most one of the most profound things. And then he just. So what do you what do you want? Right? Like, he didn't even notice what he just said. I'm like, that is the most poetic thing I've ever I've ever heard is.
00;47;26;29 - 00;47;50;05
Unknown
And that to me is what happens when you're too close to something. Like when you're you just go like it's the same shit every day, same shit. But then everything is, something changes a little bit or something's closed. One person moves, another person this and that and that, and then in a year you go like this, this, everything is different.
00;47;50;07 - 00;48;29;20
Unknown
And so the, what I want to tell you. Oh, so I have a friend that he was here. He's here now. He's here. He's in New York. He's been there since last year. October last year. June. Some like summer of new of 23. And he was there over a year and he's leaving and in November he's going to Chicago and he's a comic and he, he's like, yeah, I see, I, I figured I'd see this city and he's like, yeah, it seems like, I don't like how this system is.
00;48;29;20 - 00;49;00;04
Unknown
And like, you guys seem to not me. But he's like the system of, you know, like kissing ass and like, hanging out and social media and all this other stuff. And he's like, yeah, it's just not for me. And I'm going to go to a place that appreciates me. And like, that's a change where I kind of. I never saw someone, I guess you moving to, but I never saw someone for him particularly, like just go like, yeah, I'm not that fast.
00;49;00;04 - 00;49;19;27
Unknown
Yeah. This is I've, I've had my time. He made he, he did do well here. Like he had a show. Packed it out all the time. I made money, but he's like I need to see progression. And he didn't see that. And he's like, I see the way a lot of you guys are waiting your turn, and I don't want to do that.
00;49;19;29 - 00;49;44;19
Unknown
And so he's, I mean, I don't want to, well, it doesn't really matter. I even say his name is going to Chicago. And so, that's a good scene there. They have a good scene there. And, Yeah, it's just interesting how people just make that. So there's a weird thing that if you're from New York, you just feel like you need to struggle and you need to.
00;49;44;19 - 00;50;08;19
Unknown
And it comes with the life. And that, I remember I was, I try this one thing on stage. I had this thought, like, if you're from New York, like, even if you're in a good mood, like, you're just talking shit and it comes off as negative, right? But to us, we're just like, we're just talking shit, because that's all you can do in New York is like, there's so much wrong with it that you go like, yeah.
00;50;08;19 - 00;50;26;12
Unknown
The city I remember I worked one time, this one job, there's like such a shit job, and then this one guy comes up to me and he's like, yeah, the boss fucking sucks, man. He's like this. He's like that. I go, yeah, he's bad. And we start talking shit for like five minutes about how this job sucks. And he goes, anyway, hope you have a good day, man.
00;50;26;12 - 00;50;49;18
Unknown
And then he just kept walking. That was his way of connecting with me. Just talking shit about something. Yeah, that's that's that's what, New York is where you can talk shit and then keep it moving. Yeah. And that's a big New York thing right there. I say something that, And, I mean, it happens here a little bit, but in a different way.
00;50;49;19 - 00;51;09;18
Unknown
New York City is more like vocal. There's like a, there's like a, there's like a tone to it. It's very specific. Yeah. That is for most people coming out from the outside, coming in to come like, whoa is a fight. But happen. So that happened at a show that I did here. It was one of the shows, and one guy was talking as soon as I got on stage and I was like, dude, what the fuck?
00;51;09;18 - 00;51;31;16
Unknown
And the whole audience got like. And then I had to roll it back. Instantly. I rolled because I was like, oh, you guys, I'm not in New York. Yeah, anger is very common in New York. Oh yeah, everything to be angry about. So when they see an angry guy, they go like, this is of course he's angry here in New York, here, there's a lot less to be angry about.
00;51;31;18 - 00;51;48;09
Unknown
You know, I don't know what there is stuff to be angry about, but if you're just on stage just yelling, people will be like, where is this coming from? Because it seems like this is coming from something else. But you don't have to explain yourself when you're there. People are just like, yeah, this is just a fucking angry New York, right?
00;51;48;12 - 00;52;09;09
Unknown
So there's more so to be angry, bro. And then also to there's a more aversion to certain, like, conflicts and things like, just like interpersonal. Yeah. So I'm assuming this is my rough assumption. And again, it's like for me saying certain jokes that like which, I realized triggered a decent amount of, like, German people that joke I have about being punched in the faces.
00;52;09;11 - 00;52;27;01
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like I'm talking about like, I mean, people tighten up and you know, for I'm like, yo, what the. Yeah, it would be a ripple for America. Other eastern European country that were Laugh yeah. So what is going on. And not knowing there's like a whole entire history behind it and this and then that and you're like you know.
00;52;27;01 - 00;52;54;23
Unknown
Yeah. Well okay. Shit. Yeah. You there's no like, one thing I notice is if you say something egregious on stage or something like that, people like in New York, people or whatever, they'll have like this understanding that you're either being a dick or you're just doing some kind of, like, edgelord shit or something like that. Sometimes when I do it here, it's like more of like, why is he why is he saying this?
00;52;54;25 - 00;53;26;15
Unknown
This is like a mean, mean thing to say. All right? It's not wrong. People will just be like, why? I don't get it. And it's like annoying guys like, look, this is a joke. Is that, Yeah. Yeah. So cultural differences, you know, I mean, I guess that's a reflection of the city where you kind of just go like, you don't them as people, they will go like, yeah, these kind of negative feelings that you have, like, this is a result of this, that stuff.
00;53;26;15 - 00;53;45;04
Unknown
And then sometimes I guess with America it kind of goes like, yeah, you're just like another. It's like the land of extremes, like America, New York and stuff like that. You have to be like either all the way this way or that way. It's like if you're if you're just like, human being, I guess I'm boring, I don't know.
00;53;45;06 - 00;54;04;21
Unknown
Yeah. So it's hard to be just a regular person in New York City. Basically, I have to have paranoia. You gotta have all these things to just fit in, just to survive. I mean, even I talk about in other podcasts and even whatever that, like, you know, living in New York City for a long time and then moving out here, like the paranoia to deal with, like to even manage in your own brain is like, you know, something.
00;54;04;21 - 00;54;21;14
Unknown
You just walking around, you just realize like, oh, no, I'm like the most paranoid person here. Like, yeah. Like, you know, externally, like, so you live in a place where you feel like, wow, there's nothing there's no loud noises with all this. There's no that, you know, you just like, wow. You know, it takes some time to get adjusted.
00;54;21;17 - 00;54;34;16
Unknown
Yeah. You know, even some time from what, you know, I think is funny because you and I, we walk in and then even we're doing a certain thing, you know, you hear like a little brush slowly looking back like, oh, yeah. I kept looking back at this one guy that was walking behind us, but he was just walking behind us.
00;54;34;20 - 00;54;47;12
Unknown
It wasn't really doing anything. Yeah, it's like it took you a minute, like, oh, he just he just happened to be walking in the same direction at a slower pace. And we just came in front of him. Yeah. Instead of being like Yahoo does. So you click on my moves like, oh, you're doing like you gotta do some.
00;54;47;12 - 00;55;07;15
Unknown
Yeah, I heard some rustling. I heard some steps extra was going, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. And yeah. But this goes back to this thing of like, where does that feeling of paranoia come from? It comes from like, you, like seeing cops that don't do shit in New York. Yeah. They don't. Not only do they not do shit, they do the wrong shit where they like, right?
00;55;07;19 - 00;55;30;06
Unknown
They hit regular people. They shoot regular people that do nothing. Or maybe they do something, but there's nothing that can warrant you. Shoot them. Shooting you. Right? You know what I mean? So it's seeing things like that that makes you kind of go like, oh, man, I really do need to, like, just fend for myself. Yeah, that and I also to, you know, it is just getting punched in the face early in life.
00;55;30;06 - 00;55;52;13
Unknown
I oh, my God, I mean, that that would talk about letting you know what's safe and what's not. And when you go outside, like what? Street to go on. Yeah. You know what I mean. Yeah. You just you go, oh, okay. Yeah. That that's, that's also like I always play around with that, like. Yeah. Yeah. But you get punched in the face like I have an argument or something to have an argument person just punch you dead in your chest and you lose all.
00;55;52;13 - 00;56;10;05
Unknown
You're like, oh, I lose the argument because I have no more air to breathe. Like, did he punch it all out? It's like, yeah, you know, I think this is right. Bow wow. You're wrong. Didn't matter. You're you're gasping for air. Now can you punch you dead in your chest? That's the reality. Yeah, yeah. That reality plays out.
00;56;10;05 - 00;56;23;12
Unknown
And then they had an overtime game. Apparently you don't know how to, you know, that's why you go up in rough Navy. You know how to size people up. You have to because, like, you know, something happened. You by Yahoo, you know, who are you, who you with? Do you got something on you? You know what I mean?
00;56;23;12 - 00;56;55;20
Unknown
Like, yo, this type of neighborhood that x, y, Z or you part of some set, like. Yeah. Which, makes it. Yeah. Makes you paranoid very fast, but but do you have to bring that here. Does that ever something that you are those feelings ever required here I think is now at this point just very like it's just like subconscious is very like, how would you say it's very like subconscious and is very internal at this point is, guys to this acting class is called, not Feldenkrais is, Alexander Technique.
00;56;55;20 - 00;57;11;20
Unknown
And like what it is that certain emotions are subconscious is like subconscious thoughts we have we hold in our body is tension in certain places. Yeah. So that if you on a subway like if you at the subway in New York City, you're going to stand a different way than you would in your house because you're, you know, you're aware of, like you can't push on a track.
00;57;11;20 - 00;57;29;25
Unknown
So you, you might be more kind of like tense or whatever or nay, more. Your breathing might be restricted. So I think just living life in like certain neighborhoods and including New York City that I this is the things that I subconsciously like if I like. For example, if I'm sleep, I hear like a window like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, yeah.
00;57;29;25 - 00;57;50;11
Unknown
So my back on my side, like I'm already like, you know what I mean? Like I already got my hand balled. Like I'm ready, like y'all. Right. Ready. Focus on my. Yeah, yeah. But I'm just realizing I don't know if I can get rid of that truly. Or if it's even though, to be honest, I mean, then a little part of me is like, I so, like, if, my day to day is going good and I'm aware of it.
00;57;50;13 - 00;58;08;26
Unknown
Yeah, I'm not gonna go to Rueben Station and stay near the edge. But how people do, you know? Because you you never know. You fall down and you get hit. That's done. I rather be tense. And me like, you know, a tennis ball than a fucking loose person or something. Yeah, yeah. On the subway steps. Yeah. I mean, you can't really.
00;58;08;26 - 00;58;25;22
Unknown
I guess if you're born with it, you can't really get rid of it. You just have to kind of like, learn to live. With what? Whatever cards you were dealt with. Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, and then it, it makes life more interesting, especially when you're aware of it, because you might see something and then you look at everyone else and they're like, oh, I guess I'm the only one.
00;58;25;22 - 00;58;45;13
Unknown
Interesting, Okay, this person on the train has a knife, and, everyone's kind of still talking. I'm not the just, like, looking at the. What are you talking about there or here? No, here. That as a situation that happened one time where, like, basically this, homeless dude that was, asking people for change on the U-Bahn, on the underground train station and ask for change and stuff.
00;58;45;15 - 00;58;58;18
Unknown
Holmes, do. And then there's one girl, there's a two girls that had, like, a cake in her hand and was like, covered. And he asked for changes like, oh, we're not going to change, but we can give you some cake if you want. Oh, and he's like, yeah, sure. And then he's like, she's like, oh, I don't got any knife.
00;58;58;18 - 00;59;12;21
Unknown
He's like, I got a knife. And he pulled a knife. Right. And he pulled on the way. That not the nice Boy Scout. I'm holding it by the edge. I holding the handle. It was like, I know, oh, I can stab you. You put your hand out. So she he whipped it out kind of quick. So in my head I'm just like, whoa.
00;59;12;22 - 00;59;28;29
Unknown
So I'm looking at the, look at the knife, like, whoa, what's what the fuck going on? So. But then I'm looking around. No one. Everyone's just having regular conversation. No one. No one. Eyebrows raised. Everyone's just talking. Regular level. It was me and this other Arabic dude that was like, crossing each other. We're like, the one looking like.
00;59;28;29 - 00;59;44;14
Unknown
Yeah, like, well, that was go time I was going on. So they whips it out. So then the girl takes the knife from the guy again by the edge first. So I'm like in my head I'm like, yo, what are you doing? So she takes a knife, she cuts a piece of cake. And then basically hand, hand feeds this guy the cake.
00;59;44;14 - 00;59;59;18
Unknown
And with the other girl holding the napkin and cashier crumbs. So my head, I'm just look at my yo, what the fuck? I'm like, yo, what is going on? We're on a train and you here feed on this dude who had a knife in his hand. Yeah. So he doing it. He's eating. It's like, damn. I eventually kind of grabs a cake and he said, oh, it's like that.
00;59;59;18 - 01;00;21;26
Unknown
So I guess I'm looking around and no one's alarmed. It was again, me and his other dude, and we looked at each other and we just started laughing because we realized, like, we're the only ones in this car that has this awareness of danger. So after done after I had done so, I think it's. And then they hand the knife back to the guy again in the most incorrect way, the edge first to them he can literally just taking a bite.
01;00;21;26 - 01;00;33;23
Unknown
Oh I like the cake anyway. And just like do it. Yeah. But then Knight took the knife back. He's like, oh yeah, thank you. Thank you very much. Like, oh yeah. The thing is a little it's chatting a little bit, smiles and everything's a smile with a guy who has a knife in his hand. I'm like, yo, what?
01;00;33;23 - 01;00;50;06
Unknown
What is going on in my head? And all of y'all? What the fuck is going on? Yeah. And then, so then the train gets to a stop me. So I thank you. So he walks out the, the the the the train car again with the knife in his hand as if you can stab some way and like again, even if people are coming in, they're not even alarmed, just going, oh yeah, you know, you can go ahead.
01;00;50;06 - 01;01;07;11
Unknown
And he's like walking out of the train station with a knife in his hand at hip level, like of like, you know, and I'm just looking like and again, no one in a car alarm, no one's like, wow, that's great. I'm just. I'm just. I'm just beside myself. I mean, this other guy just like, what the fuck?
01;01;07;14 - 01;01;29;26
Unknown
What just happened? Yeah. Like so I don't I yeah, I still to this day, I'm just like, yo, what the. You know, I just like there was. Oh, it was a white. Yeah. German dude. Two German girls was like that, you know, smiley or anything like that. So I mean, they're homeless. No. Yeah. He look like, kind of like, you know, like somebody that could do.
01;01;30;02 - 01;01;42;20
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, not to stereotype, but I mean, he just had, like, you know, by, like the, the look of someone who's like very down and out a little bit, you know, kind of like, how can I I'm changing now hunched over and stuff that way. Not even I just kind of like, hey, can I get some change, guys?
01;01;42;20 - 01;02;03;10
Unknown
Just like, you know, he's rough life and stuff, but just for him to whip out the knife like that and then like for them to take it with, like, no type of, paranoia. That was just wild. Wow. That's like, yo, what? So were the girls young? They're young. They look dainty. They're like, oh, yeah. I'm like, you are the demographic.
01;02;03;11 - 01;02;24;14
Unknown
They get stabbed by people that whip up a knife in a fucking subway. That's bro. That was, still to this day, I'm like, what the like? Yeah, I should say. So that lady with the. I don't even know if in New York they'll say anything because everybody will just fend for themselves. People start moving like, yeah, yeah, you walk away.
01;02;24;15 - 01;02;38;16
Unknown
Yeah. You catch my train, they'll get out of the, what do you call it? The the subway car. Yeah. Or they'll go to another one. Yeah. But you, you catch some, you catch some I, I go there you, you know, and then we go up a rough neighborhood. You know how to catch somebody else's eye. Yeah. To go somewhere.
01;02;38;16 - 01;02;55;11
Unknown
See. But. Oh what are you looking at. Water. Looking over there. And you see something and you know how they move in and you be like, man, that's somebody's got someone I don't know. And then you you start looking at other people, then they start looking to you, but not all right. This is does you feel it then the train everyone talking about where they going to to eat for dinner and stuff.
01;02;55;11 - 01;03;16;04
Unknown
I mean in German I guess, I don't know, but like it was just regular conversations while this dude had a knife I'm talking about he wasn't. He had it out. Like you can see The Shining glinting this on the night. I'm like, bro, do you? Did you ever say this story on stage? You know, every time I do, I need to definitely formulate it in a way to say no stage.
01;03;16;07 - 01;03;33;18
Unknown
Yeah, definitely need to, I don't know how to turn it into a punchline, because I'm still just shocked every time I talk about this recent. This is like a couple months ago. Six months ago, the six meeting, if you just compare, I mean, like New York, that's. Yeah, that would be that would be a story.
01;03;33;21 - 01;03;50;00
Unknown
Yeah, I definitely need it because I have said a few times actually, now, now talking about I need to definitely, probably listen back to this and. Yeah. Yeah. But there is every time I talk about it like, it puts me back in that mode. And then I'm just like literally. But yo, what the in in nine, nine, nine.
01;03;50;00 - 01;04;04;22
Unknown
So I'm like six on the table. I was like, come on. Hahaha. All right, what's next? I'm like, no, that's not that's a crazy thing. I'm like, yo, but you under like so even that they be like, you know, oh yeah but the deal. But did he had like the nice little like thing to conceal when he was done.
01;04;04;22 - 01;04;21;08
Unknown
I'm like that it doesn't. Yeah. He could have stabbed somebody then concealed it didn't matter. What did we talk about. But this goes back into this thing that I was saying. So like if, if they did if she did get stabbed, she'd go to the hospital and she wouldn't have to pay. What is, is a free health care to.
01;04;21;08 - 01;04;43;06
Unknown
Yeah. I be like, all right, whatever. It's the free health. Yeah. People look up. You know how fucked up it is in the States now. People don't even call the ambulance. They call. That's fucking crazy because they don't want to call. They. It's like $1,000 for the ambulance. And so that's why that lady was like, yeah, just fucking stabs me.
01;04;43;06 - 01;05;01;10
Unknown
Whatever. Just take the cake. It doesn't matter. So leave me alone. He stabs all of us. Well, I'll just go to the hospital together. All together? This is who bond actually takes us directly to the hospital, is it? Stop. Yeah. That's why. That's why it probably shocks you. Because you're looking at it like, oh, this. What would happen if this was in America, then?
01;05;01;10 - 01;05;24;00
Unknown
Yeah, this would be a story because people will just go, oh, take the fucking. They would walk to the fucking, hospital with fucking blood trickling down on the street or something like that. It's, that's why probably people, everybody's so fucking calm, I guess. Oh, man. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's. Wow. Yeah, that that's an insane thing to happen.
01;05;24;06 - 01;05;46;03
Unknown
And, Yeah, it's good that you're here. The good thing. I mean, yeah, if that happened in New York. Nah, man, that would have been a story. Oh, yeah. Big story. And also. But then it would have been in that homeless guy's mind to also go like, I have nothing. And I am not to say that this guy didn't have nothing but to go like, yeah, nobody cares.
01;05;46;04 - 01;06;11;04
Unknown
Like not only to blame the homeless guy, but nobody in New York would have given a homeless man a cake, or right, because they wouldn't even think to go like that. Everybody is so much like it's paranoia. Everybody's a threat, everybody's a threat, and nobody will kind of, like, help each other or anything like that, which I guess maybe it's capitalist or whatever, but it's the result of that.
01;06;11;12 - 01;06;29;03
Unknown
It's like selfishness and all this other stuff. People don't even like seeing it this way. Like, even if I tell people this shit, they're like, I, what are you complaining about? I'm like, you don't understand. Like, this is an inhumane way to treat each other. Yeah. Like that's a very human thing. Very. It's very human to go like, oh, man, this person's down.
01;06;29;03 - 01;06;59;07
Unknown
And I was asking for money, but I got something else, you know, so both of those characters in your in your story, it's like that. Both of those things wouldn't happen. Not only would the homeless guy not fucking would stab the lady, right. But that those two girls are. Trusting enough of this person to go like, well, this person will, you know, not hurt me if I give them food.
01;06;59;07 - 01;07;17;25
Unknown
Like, imagine giving food like even now. Sometimes when they go, when you give a homeless person food in New York, like they don't want the food. Yeah, that I know, because sometimes they they think that like, you put something in the food or they just go, like, I just need money for drugs because, you know, I'm a drug user.
01;07;18;00 - 01;07;33;26
Unknown
Yeah. Or sometimes they try to do their thing was like, hey, look, my diabetes, you know, I'm like, you know what? Yeah. You always conflict, okay? Like I bro, I mean, yeah, I heard yeah, I saw you three weeks ago. I said, diabetes is still there. Yeah, right. It's kind of like, yeah, I know diabetes. Yeah.
01;07;33;27 - 01;07;50;19
Unknown
And this and this, this food I am giving you will raise your blood sugar. But but raise your blood sugar or not starve my. Yeah. Will you. What do you want? I don't I don't want to tell you what the priorities here. Yeah, nor am I a doctor. So I don't know what to tell you. Imagine if a doctor would be there.
01;07;50;19 - 01;08;05;23
Unknown
He'd just be like. Yeah. And, you don't have diabetes and, like, diagnose you from your face or something? Yeah, it's a rendering. And so wages a doctor is just like, look at that. He's like, let me check your heartbeat real quick. Just make sure you know that. Now get the fuck out of here. So he's like, now you're going to take this money and then call it a day.
01;08;05;23 - 01;08;32;04
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. So you okay? So, now with you traveling out of New York City, it's your first time here in Berlin. Yeah. I mean, you've been to Barcelona, other places. London. I'm always curious about, like what? What is your mindset now or your mind stay in terms of, like, you know, travel life? I don't know if that's too general, but about travel.
01;08;32;07 - 01;08;51;04
Unknown
Yeah. Because you travel. Well, because I think we talked about a little bit in terms of like your thoughts of New York City and where you're at and eventually leaving. Yeah. And, you know, I feel like when people travel to different countries or different places, that it kind of sets the seed of, like where you know them has to be living in one of these places or so.
01;08;51;07 - 01;09;10;28
Unknown
And I don't know if that has happened or is that even something in your mind in terms of eventually living outside of. Yeah, I always think about it. I always think about it. When people tell me about New York, I think this is a sign of leaving is like, I don't really have anything good to say about New York, which is not a good sign.
01;09;11;00 - 01;09;33;28
Unknown
But I don't know if that's also because I've been there for too long and anywhere you go for too long you see the negatives more than the positive because everything's too close. You know. And also going back to what we were talking about before, it's like same shit every day, but everything changes. So it's not the city that I that I knew anymore.
01;09;34;00 - 01;10;00;05
Unknown
I think everybody in New York that's like a New Yorker is just living on past memories. Honestly, truly. I honestly do believe that this will you could clip this shit up and tell and like, bring on the. I really do believe that. I think that the city is just a nostalgia dream for New Yorkers. I think that the, the, the New Yorkers that are still there are struggling.
01;10;00;08 - 01;10;21;28
Unknown
And I think that anybody that actually enjoys New York is not from there. I truly believe that. I think anybody that's having a good time in New York is a a child of nepotism or, a child of money or an old person that, you know, made their way and, it's not a 24 hour city anymore. It really isn't.
01;10;22;01 - 01;10;39;04
Unknown
And every like, I'm not going to say where I live, but there's in the whole city, there's diners like, I mean, there's such a simple thing, but diners used to be 24 hours and used to be such a New York staple where you could just write and chill and talk shit and stuff like, diners close at 11 or 12.
01;10;39;11 - 01;11;04;29
Unknown
That is, while they do, they close at 11 or 12, and it's not because they don't want to open, it's because the the city is either, it's either all unsafe, or they don't have the money to, open it up for that long. So there's nobody with disposable income. So that really affects people in the arts.
01;11;05;02 - 01;11;29;04
Unknown
That's what we live on. People need to eat and then they go to shows you can't eat. You're not going to go to a show. You know. Yeah. It's I do think about leaving. I still don't know where, yeah. I still don't know where, because you said that the winters here are terrible. The winters in Berlin is not a joke.
01;11;29;06 - 01;11;52;17
Unknown
Yeah, that one has been told to me at took that for granted. And, boy, was. I mean, you had to. You had to live through it to see it for yourself. Yeah. Yeah, I had to, Yeah, I don't think anyone can prepare. Yeah. I was the most optimistic being like, no, it's okay. It'll be fun wearing my jacket and a bun, you know, basically almost damn near passed out multiple times.
01;11;52;20 - 01;12;09;06
Unknown
I know the vitamin D and vitamin D not going outside. And I'm moving my body and I catching the sun is out. So yeah. Yeah, when you do, when you get used to that then you're good. Oh you just travel to a warmer country. That's what people do here. But here's the other thing about sorry to go back to New York.
01;12;09;07 - 01;12;23;23
Unknown
Yeah. But here's the other thing about New York is that whenever you feel like I think maybe, maybe this is a universal feeling that when you do leave and tell me if you feel this way is like when you do leave New York, you feel like there's still things to before you leave. There's still things to accomplish in New York.
01;12;23;23 - 01;12;47;06
Unknown
Where are you? Like, maybe I should stay here because there are opportunities and things and all that stuff. So that's one apprehension I have to leaving where I kind of go like, well, is there is there still something to to like, hold on to in that sense, like with comedy and entertainment? Because you know, there is something there.
01;12;47;08 - 01;13;16;27
Unknown
But social media is like king, so it doesn't really matter if you're there. You'll be asked to be there eventually. Yeah. So yeah, I don't know. It's and also here's a, here's a, a little common, probably a little complaint. It's also like the future of comedy in New York, I don't think is very good just because and I know this sounds like a cynical thing, but you can barely find places to go up for free.
01;13;16;29 - 01;13;37;00
Unknown
It's it's increasing, like there's a lot of places that have increased their prices. And I think in Brooklyn there are some spots, but you only get up for like 2 or 3 minutes. So that means that comedy for New Yorkers will be there will be a cost barrier. So that means that people that are broke, that are funny can afford to do comedy.
01;13;37;02 - 01;14;07;23
Unknown
That that says a lot about the future of comedy, where it's like the only people that can do it are rich kids. That's like, I used to play soccer and it's a pay to play system. So which is not like any other country. Like if you're good here in Germany and Spain, they pay for you to go to school because they know if they invest in you when you're young, they get the benefits because they'll be like, you're an academy player, you'll become, you'll get US championships, which will give us money, and you'll be devoted to our team.
01;14;07;23 - 01;14;28;20
Unknown
It's like a community here. In the States, you need to pay to go to a team. You need to pay for your jersey. You need to pay for your registration. I remember there was one time I, I, I played a game for a team, and at the end of the game, the referee was like, all right, $2.
01;14;28;22 - 01;14;46;18
Unknown
We're like, what? I was 15 years old, 14, 15. I go, what the fuck? And then and then I remember thinking, I didn't speak Spanish because the guy started speaking Spanish. And I asked my team and I'm like, what was he saying? He's like, oh, everybody needs to give him $2. I don't know why. And he goes, because he's the referee, we need to pay him.
01;14;46;18 - 01;15;04;10
Unknown
I go, why are you should have told me before the game he already did the job. This is how this is. The guy was stupid. He asked for it after. So I just walked away. I just left to the train station. I'm like, what are you going to do? They gonna chase after me? Yeah. You're not going to drive over $2, which you.
01;15;04;10 - 01;15;20;08
Unknown
How fucking broke are you? You know. Right. So it's like shit like that where I'm like, I don't understand where this is. What? This where this is going. You know what I mean? Which isn't to say like, you know.
01;15;20;10 - 01;15;36;10
Unknown
But, yeah, you know, that's a whole other thing. Yeah. No, I mean, that's a that's a good point in terms of, like the, the barrier to entry increasing, just like from a price perspective, especially with stand of comics, standup comedy is the most like, need to go up a lot. You need to go up as much as possible, right?
01;15;36;12 - 01;15;49;22
Unknown
Yeah. And then for that to be the case where you have to. Yeah. I also, I hear too, there's a lot of comic. There's a lot more comedians in New York City than it ever has. Not ever has been good. Yeah. But like, yeah, I heard from somebody else who came from New York and he's doing like, touring here.
01;15;49;23 - 01;16;10;19
Unknown
Yeah, they told me, like, they talked to somebody at one of the clubs and they're saying, like, I never saw this before with this, dismiss this many comedians. Yeah. All in like New York City at this time. Yeah. So like, I wonder we're just, what's it called? Supply and demand, just like this. So demand. Yeah. No demand, but so many supply of comedians.
01;16;10;21 - 01;16;33;05
Unknown
That is like to the point that because even like when we started so before pandemic, like it did like the it was it. Yeah. It was like we knew the core amount of people that were like performing now in the groups that they were in Brooklyn, Queens City. Yeah. Yeah. I was like the same usual suspects usually. And then now, I mean, I've been, you know, I've been away, but it just seems like a just a lot.
01;16;33;07 - 01;16;52;27
Unknown
And it's, like what I was saying about New York. It's a nostalgia dream. It's like people going to New York because of what they saw about, like, a lot of the new comics that I talk to, I go like, why do you move to New York? And they go like, oh, Patrice, tough crowd and Bill Burr. And I'm like, dude, that was 20 years ago.
01;16;53;00 - 01;17;18;17
Unknown
20 years ago. Almost all those guys are fucking well not almost, but Keith Robinson's stroke two strokes Patrice is dead. Bill Burr's in LA Colin Quinn's the only one there. And it's like Bobby Kelly's there and stuff like that. But these guys are to us these are like the revered people. But to everyone else, these are the old heads that nobody gives a fuck about anymore.
01;17;18;17 - 01;17;36;01
Unknown
It's like, that's so interesting that even I. Yeah, because I wonder who had a oh, I mean, they're growing, I guess, what? But the in terms of like, you know, like Patrice O'Neal, Bill Burns of those for us where like, they're close, you know, but then people are new now is 20 years removed. But then what's like the shit like that.
01;17;36;01 - 01;18;00;26
Unknown
Yeah. I wonder what's a ten year removal? Because for us it's like about a 10 to 15, like 15 year about removal. Yeah. And I wonder what's their equivalent to the 10 to 15. That seems like there's dual reference in like 20 to 30 in 40 year. But that's a, that's some there are some people that don't even care about them or that to them I think they're like who the 90s guys are to us where we don't care about them.
01;18;00;26 - 01;18;21;24
Unknown
So I think even for these, the newer comics, they're kind of just gone like sometimes the motivations for some comedians, I don't understand some of them. I remember one of them told me like, oh, I, I want to send a message like a political message and, be it be a fucking politician, the fuck? You're going to be doing political shit.
01;18;21;24 - 01;18;39;05
Unknown
Well, as a comedian, that, does that even make sense? I mean, yeah, unless you, I mean, cause even Carlin, he didn't start off that way, you know? You know, he started funny. Yeah. And then political shit. As a comedian, I don't even know what that is like. Oh, I'm an architect. I'm going to cook. That's like, what the fuck?
01;18;39;12 - 01;19;00;04
Unknown
What are you doing? You're in the wrong profession. Oh, it doesn't even make sense. Yeah, just to say it's not funny inherently. Like when you say that it's not funny. I have a message to say. Oh, where's the punch line? Yeah. Oh, I have a message to say. Great. So. Okay, I heard the premise. Yeah. What's the what's the punchline to the message?
01;19;00;04 - 01;19;21;25
Unknown
Yeah, it's, I don't know what people's motivations are, but I guess it doesn't even matter. It's like, I'm not cynical about comedy because I know that in the end, every time there is a dip, it always goes back up. Because even when the in the 90s when it was dead, it, it went back up. Yeah.
01;19;21;25 - 01;19;46;11
Unknown
A lot of comedians in the 80s or the 80s. Yeah that was the boom. And then it went out and I think now it's kind of gone. It's like they say that the bubbles there's a social media bubble, but I don't think it's going to die like it did in the 90s. I don't think so because social media is not it's not going away.
01;19;46;13 - 01;20;01;04
Unknown
Yeah. It's infinite. I mean, I don't think it's going away. Yeah. I think the only thing that bubble will burst and probably is bursting now to some degree, but like, it's not bursting in like a, like a pop. It's kind of like a, it's popping in a weird way, like a in, in like a, in word pop or something.
01;20;01;07 - 01;20;24;14
Unknown
Is that the algorithms that are now dictating what is shared or not? Yeah. And not only that, but then what people care about and what their knowledge are more about these signals that social media, visualize, you know, so for example, at one point it was all about followers. So like, you know, someone's interpretation where you stand in a social media aspect was your followers.
01;20;24;21 - 01;20;40;24
Unknown
But then over time, as people got more savvy and or got more into it and inflated a bubble, so to speak, is that it's the understanding that following does not mean this. Yeah. So then backlash. Yeah. Right. So then okay we see your followers but then what's your engagement. Yeah. So then and then like oh what's your engagement.
01;20;40;24 - 01;21;04;09
Unknown
But yeah I see how many likes you got but how many comments you got. Oh how many comments you got. But how many comments in shares. You know. So it's like bullshit. Yeah. It's these things that are now being, is being aware by normal people. And then obviously the algorithms are dictating what, you know, because right now the name of the game is like keeping people on, as long as possible, you know, so that's like the biggest thing.
01;21;04;13 - 01;21;24;04
Unknown
Yeah. And that changes with what is being valued in the algorithms. But then for people minds, it doesn't happen as quick. So it's like this weird sort of bubble is like weird because it's like it's inflating only to the level of what people dictate is valuable. Yeah. From what these metrics are from these, like, companies or so.
01;21;24;05 - 01;21;53;08
Unknown
Yeah. Which it's, always it's always. Yeah, it's pretty weird, but it'll never go. That stuff won't go away. I don't think, because they're, it's meta. And meta is not just Instagram, it's Facebook, it's WhatsApp. So it's such a big, integral part of I think, media that even the government, I think like it puts Zuckerberg in and they like, put him in Congress to answer for the things that he's letting you know.
01;21;53;11 - 01;22;15;18
Unknown
I don't I don't think it's going away. I think he set himself up in a way where we're going to need him for a while. Yeah. I think vine was the only one that that really died. And vine was vine died because I think the top ten creators asked for a, a bump for their salary.
01;22;15;18 - 01;22;45;12
Unknown
And the creators, the owner said no, and then the the top creators left, and then it just died. Yeah, I don't I think he set himself up in a way to never do that, like Mark to never let that happen. Oh, yeah. Mama. So that he's never dependent on a creator or anything like that. So now you got to pay boost and all this other shit, pay boosts with, even now with them, I think ads, I think even them now favoring new creators.
01;22;45;14 - 01;23;07;21
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. So like this to make them. Yeah. I mean, it's like. Yeah, it was like, the way they, the way they always marketed is always to go like, yeah, we're going to like push, more original content, which is just your way of saying, oh, so you got to pay to boost your shit. So you got to make your content better than the paid shit.
01;23;07;21 - 01;23;29;04
Unknown
So, yeah. Yeah. And even that too, because I mean, again, now it feeds back into that because, yeah, it feeds back into that whole views thing as well. Like, okay, you know, like how do how does one interpret views as worth or something you know. So I think that bubble is not going to burst based on people's perception of what's valuable.
01;23;29;04 - 01;23;52;06
Unknown
And then like that views thing because again, like even for my journey, like realizing that the people viewing it, it matters a lot more. And that took me like it just took me time to actually interacting and have a certain things happen. Then just going for the I mean, obviously the bigger the reach, the better. Yeah, yeah. But like actually, you know, because there's some videos where people get like 50, 30,000, but no one comments.
01;23;52;06 - 01;24;18;29
Unknown
And you know, of course that's a weird. So then we confront that enough times. You kind of like nobody. Yeah. You like a lot of people viewed it but didn't really get not really cared because they didn't really like or comment. So this is really worth it. So then even that's about I think a lot of people don't get to that point until you confronted by they probably by your own content and being like, wow, a lot of you saw this and they really didn't care.
01;24;19;00 - 01;24;53;21
Unknown
Yeah, you he like. All right. This is not a good feeling. I'm seeing a lot of views, but I'm not getting a lot of love literally by likes. Yeah. So that's so I think the bubble of comedy is going to be, one that's, it is going to pop, but it's not going to pop the same way, because, I mean, now, you know, you got you got like this, you know, people are getting on for reasons other than comedy sometimes, you know, you got people that just, you know, basically just bombing in ways that are just, you know, too great for people to really conceptualize being like, whoa, I, I use
01;24;53;21 - 01;25;20;08
Unknown
this. And then it's like, like, what the fuck? You know, I think now it's gone to not now, but I think soon it'll be, a correction to the point of, like, I even see it on Reddit. So I go on Reddit, on the standup comedy things. I see people post their jokes, like even sell joke comics post their jokes, and there's people in the comments going like, this shit's just not good.
01;25;20;09 - 01;25;43;06
Unknown
Yeah, we're like you. I don't know, this premise is stupid and all this other stuff. So it's it's as if the audience is kind of like going like, yeah, you can't trick us the way you used to. Like, you actually have to be funny. But. Right. It can be very. Yeah. Right. Right. It is like these just these dudes at home, just, like, watch and shit like that.
01;25;43;13 - 01;26;09;25
Unknown
They feel like they have some kind of ownership over what you're saying, or you like, you could just just go to the next thing, like, how are you insulted by me trying to fulfill a dream? I don't understand, but I think more people are going to do that. I think soon people will eventually go like, you know, I don't wanna spend $30 on a two drink minimum on a bad show.
01;26;09;25 - 01;26;35;07
Unknown
And I think once people see these, like TikTok stars and Instagram stars, they're the kind of like this was a waste of time. And then eventually they go, they're going to either never come to a comedy show again, or they'll go like, well, who's actually funny? Yeah. And then it'll be like kind of corrected in that way where people will try to find the funny people.
01;26;35;09 - 01;26;57;09
Unknown
I hope, I think so. I think it's definitely happening because, yeah, I mean, even some of the things are coming out now. You can just you don't hear people talk about specials like that anymore, or any type of bodies of work or even have like favorite jokes or things like you don't, you know, I mean, so like and then I think does live, live events is starting to make a comeback now obviously you know with Covid.
01;26;57;14 - 01;27;16;20
Unknown
Yeah. And and now and then you know the still reality of seeing something good. Yeah. And then you know inflation. So there's prices that going up. So now it's like you actually have to spend it on a proper proper act. Yeah. And you're not giving no benefit of doubt. So it's kind of like yo who is this person now paying this amount of money that I don't have.
01;27;16;20 - 01;27;37;02
Unknown
Really. Yeah. Like before like who is this person? But it's kind of weird that like, I don't know, sometimes and people get annoyed at me for doing this. Like, sometimes people don't like and I don't do this anymore. I think I used to this is going back to like me being more, I guess, like not complaining as much.
01;27;37;10 - 01;27;56;07
Unknown
I used to talk shit about comics that would have specials that aren't funny, that are like social media people, right? And then there people are telling me, like, now don't do this. You shouldn't do this. Like these people. You could be working with them or they could have influence or something like that. And I go, but don't you think that's the problem, that they have influence?
01;27;56;07 - 01;28;15;15
Unknown
It's like they have no right to even have a say in what industry this is. But I have to be the one that's scared of them. That doesn't even make sense to me. And I see other people kind of like, go to their specials and go to their, you know, parties and stuff like that, and they take pictures with them.
01;28;15;15 - 01;28;43;03
Unknown
And I'm like, you know, I know that, you know, that. You don't think they're funny and you still go to them, and then they always do capitalism, then they always do that thing where they go like, yeah, but it's not about that. It's about I'm trying to make a living money back to the money and I'm trying to it's, it's like a, there's no amount, there's like so much that you give up like your morals and your ethics and all your values in exchange for money.
01;28;43;05 - 01;29;02;06
Unknown
And it seems like it's so it's been such a common thing to do in America, and especially with comedy, especially over spots like, I remember there would be people like I ran a show for a little bit, and there would be certain people that would ask me to do the show and I'm like, dude, you're a I didn't say this.
01;29;02;06 - 01;29;17;12
Unknown
I'd be like, you're a terrible person and I don't want to be next to you. You're fucking to. I know who you are. And just because you're funny, I don't give a fuck like I know the things. You. I'm not going to name names here, but I know, I know, I've heard of the things you did and some.
01;29;17;12 - 01;29;38;11
Unknown
Some of these people are so fucking fucked up that they say the shit on stage in joke form, like the terrible things they do and, and I gotta be accepting of this because I'm like, oh, but the joke worked. I'm like, you just said some crazy shit. And like, I'm supposed to pretend like that's okay. Just because you're funny, you know?
01;29;38;11 - 01;30;02;25
Unknown
So I don't know, it's, It's. Yeah, it's like complaining about stuff. It doesn't change and stuff like that. So you just got to, like, keep your own, morals and values. But a lot of people just sell themselves out in exchange for other things. And, I think they're just the victim of, like, the system the comedy has become in New York.
01;30;03;02 - 01;30;17;03
Unknown
And I can't say for any. Yeah. I mean, in the same in general. Yeah. I mean, like, you know, like any and all that stuff. I mean, there's so many, you know, because, again, is that is that being picked up? Yes. Yes. It's the actual money aspect because, you know, sometimes this thing actually needs money, like for real, right.
01;30;17;03 - 01;30;42;20
Unknown
But then I what cost is that back to that thing of like, yeah. How are you. Like, is it worth the money to like forego some of these things that you hold morally or so like that, right. Yeah. Which some people may make that tradeoff. Right. And, you know, and but then, you know, there's some obviously repercussions with that and stuff and, I think also with entertainment, man, is that there's not that many shots out there.
01;30;42;23 - 01;30;58;25
Unknown
Well, let me say perceived shots in terms of what you think is a shot. Right. So like somebody might be like, y'all be able to get into this door to this place or whatever, and that being the only place in their mind of what's successful, instead of it being like a broad range of other things or other options.
01;30;58;25 - 01;31;17;03
Unknown
So then like, you know, you got those three things all together, it makes it into like a weird, a weird, a weird dynamic of sorts in an environment that people are trying to be picked this, power dynamics to certain things of just reality. You know, sometimes you like, hey, if you do want this, you do need shake this hand.
01;31;17;05 - 01;31;34;23
Unknown
It just, you know, but then ask yourself, what is it worth that? And that can be difficult in a place where you're in New York City. We game broke by the second. Yeah. And eventually you kind of like, yo, I need to do something, and then you're. Yeah, it's because you don't have health care. Because nobody has health.
01;31;34;27 - 01;31;53;14
Unknown
Yeah. You not okay. Yes. They all say yes. Yeah. He's like, I need to fix my knee or else I can't do standup anymore. I need to yeah. You know, invest in some baby oil. Yeah. That's good, that's good. If, if people had health care Diddy and all these people, they wouldn't be as prolific as I wish it was just the health care.
01;31;53;14 - 01;32;07;18
Unknown
So what do you think about the money? People think about money first before like flossing their teeth. So like, you know you know, that's if you like. But I didn't get this money. Yeah, but what about your diabetes, man? Let me get this money first. You know I'll get the money, then I'll worry about the diabetes. Yeah, you know what I mean?
01;32;07;22 - 01;32;35;16
Unknown
It's, I don't know people who don't work. I mean, maybe they do worry about the right things. Maybe I don't worry about money enough. I mean, I am broke, but, I want I want to have more money, but at the same time, I don't want to, like, lose myself over it, so. Right. And and when you're old, I mean, all the shit, eventually it's like a you people kind of live with regrets and stuff like that.
01;32;35;16 - 01;33;02;27
Unknown
Once you're old, none of this will matter. It's like sometimes you want to be true to yourself and you want to be doing that kind of thing. And it's very hard to do that. The whole way, you know, like the whole your entire life, it's very hard to do because of shit like that or like, you know, you had opportunity from my guest, Diddy or Weinstein or one of them, and you're like, well, if I let him do whatever he wants, I can live a life.
01;33;02;29 - 01;33;25;29
Unknown
But I get it. They want to. They don't want to live like a broke life or a terrible life, but yeah, I don't know what the other side is. I've never been offered, Weinstein or Diddy's dick. I don't I don't know what it feels like. Maybe it does. Maybe it does feel good to kind of just go, like, all I had to do was that.
01;33;26;02 - 01;33;44;11
Unknown
And now I have $100 million. Maybe. Maybe that, I don't know. Yeah. I mean, that's a good that I mean, you know, funny. But then also to a good question in terms of like, what what is it worth? Yeah. It's like, again, all those things are just so fucking. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, of course, as you, as you start, you do.
01;33;44;12 - 01;34;02;21
Unknown
You're more in the, in the, in this scene and stuff. Yeah. You start watching certain things. You kind of, you know, again you start like, you know, hey look, that's the, this is you want to make that. But then also it does have a downstream effects. Eventually you know how to then get in certain spaces because you probably know this is that.
01;34;02;21 - 01;34;19;04
Unknown
No, no, no, you want to get in those spaces. But then the what it takes has been defined by people have already like doing whatever they did to get there. So then now that's like the that's the, that's the level or that's like the was it that's a line in the sand where you got to kind of cross.
01;34;19;07 - 01;34;33;28
Unknown
Yeah. To get in there. And it's kind of like, damn I used to be here. Like, yeah, well, a lot of people did it. So this is the line in the sand. Now, maybe because of social media, this all this stuff will go away because then it should have gone away a little bit. But it seems like people still.
01;34;34;00 - 01;34;53;05
Unknown
Maybe that's why people are getting caught now. Because social media is kind of letting you just I mean, you got to work for yourself a lot more, but you can kind of just build your own career. Yeah. Nobody can kind of lord anything over you. You can just kind of like, just do your own shit, like, book your own stuff, if that's what if that's, I don't know, acting.
01;34;53;05 - 01;35;11;11
Unknown
I think acting you still need to be hired. Yeah, I think I think you're still crazy. You could definitely create your own, right? Yeah, you can make your own movie. It just it takes like. Yeah, that takes effort and it takes effort and then ninja ingenuity and. Yeah, yeah, you gotta work anyway. So it's like you might as well write your own stuff and also understand social media.
01;35;11;11 - 01;35;29;04
Unknown
Yeah, I think that's like just the. Yeah, that's just it just is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I mean even even just business I mean like you go to a restaurant, you get to see how many people has give this stars. If it's only five people, that's if a thousand people get five stars. This is a good place.
01;35;29;05 - 01;35;46;15
Unknown
Yeah. So like, social media has embedded itself I want to talk. And this one woman and we're like, yeah, I'm a big social media. This person I don't really know on the social media they should talk about this comic, not comedy, just a regular person, out here in Berlin. And I, she's like, oh yeah, actually, this one guy, he's like this, yoga person, it's not blah blah.
01;35;46;15 - 01;36;01;02
Unknown
And she's like, oh, yeah, actually, I don't follow the YouTube so well. The YouTube, he's like, oh, see, she, he has like a 1.2 million. It's not blah blah. I was a confirmation. I was like, yeah, you know it's hard for a human being to see 1.2. And this evolved that from like some value 1.2 million pennies even.
01;36;01;02 - 01;36;18;00
Unknown
You be like, yo what yo how to how do you get a million penny? Like even a million pennies? You'll be like a million. Anything is already wow, a million leaves. How how did you. What? Yeah. You have a million leaves. I have a million, sticks of butter. Like, how'd you. What? Yeah, we going to do? How do you get what?
01;36;18;02 - 01;36;40;07
Unknown
Yeah. So a million views that has been verified, and you like. Whoa. Hey. I. Yeah, you can look at that person different, but no, no, no, we'll see how it goes with social media and stuff. I think it's, which this will be on social media. Yeah. Oh, we've been on, 30. Wow. That's. Yeah. So, so actually, one question like.
01;36;40;09 - 01;36;58;29
Unknown
Yes, yes. Before, when I usually ask people a lot about this, usually ask people at the end is that you've been to multiple different cultures, right? Yeah. You know, from Bahrain. Yeah. I mean, I guess Uzbek, East Indian culture a little and not probably not really. Really. Yeah. But American American culture, new York City culture.
01;36;58;29 - 01;37;24;23
Unknown
Yeah. You know, also when you get into, like, Jewish culture and everything, they don't really talk about, you know, you know, stand up culture. Yeah. What would be the advice you give to yourself, in your, in your younger years, like, in my younger it depends on the age, I mean, whatever age you thought you was going through some cultural differences or something, and you would give you advice to your younger self during those that.
01;37;24;28 - 01;37;44;26
Unknown
I guess you're not alone. So that's good. You're not alone. So, just because you like, I think one thing I think James Baldwin had this quote where is like, the thing about an artist is like, when you say how you feel and you write it down and then someone else reads it, they feel this way, too.
01;37;44;26 - 01;38;06;27
Unknown
It makes people feel less alone. So that's one thing I would tell my younger self, like, just because you're feeling like, misunderstood or something like that, it's like, that's probably one of the most common feelings in the world to feel misunderstood and stuff. And in terms of, I guess, stand up, calm down. That's what I would say.
01;38;06;29 - 01;38;28;22
Unknown
Like younger me, I would say, just calm the fuck down like, none of this matters. There's another show, there's another mic. The even the person you're talking to will probably quit comedy. And you will never have to put any negative energy onto this person anyway, like the book, or that you don't like will quit and you'll never see them again in your life.
01;38;28;22 - 01;39;01;10
Unknown
You won't even remember their name. So don't ever think anything is permanent in comedy because it isn't. Yeah, it's for standup. I'll say those, calm down, this doesn't matter. In terms of what did you say, New York culture. Yeah, just I mean, just general. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, things like that. In New York. Yeah. I would tell myself, I guess just like, like get a knife or, you know, just fan fend for yourself, bro.
01;39;01;13 - 01;39;31;02
Unknown
Honestly, fend for yourself. Cops don't give a fuck. I think that's a lot of advice. Okay, okay. Not a lot. Yeah. No, that's too many. No, no, that's a decent amount. You broke it down in different sections and stuff. As you mentioned. New York American culture. Yeah. Just in general basically like it seems like all those together, you know, calming down, you know, realizing that it's not serious, you know, certain things that are not really as, yeah, serious as it is in that moment.
01;39;31;06 - 01;39;48;15
Unknown
Oh, yeah. So here's one. I guess this goes into calming down. It's like nobody's against you. People are just worrying about themselves. So in the same way that like, if you sometimes I mean, I or maybe other people at the time or people you think they're kind of like, oh, some everybody's like, oh, I'm a rebel. I'm this.
01;39;48;15 - 01;40;15;03
Unknown
It's like, no, you're just everybody's just doing their own thing. And you have to realize it. You got to do yours. And you're not kind of like it's not a slight on you if somebody is worrying about themselves because they probably got their own shit going on. So that's one thing, which is what like I think you are doing now and I'm trying to do was just like worry about your own happiness and stuff like that.
01;40;15;03 - 01;40;45;19
Unknown
And once you have your core, life like the fundamentals set, then everything from that can be easier in terms of, like, do I, you know, do I have a place to stay? Do I have love in my life? Not love in the terms of partner, but do I have people that care for me that will that are, you know, that will stick by my side if I ever need them or something like that.
01;40;45;22 - 01;41;07;08
Unknown
These are the this is the core that I think every person needs in their life. Yeah. And if you don't have that, that's when I start noticing people lashing out and stuff like that. But I think I always had that. But you got to realize that you have that so that, and I think a lot I don't want to speak because some people generally don't have that.
01;41;07;08 - 01;41;26;24
Unknown
They don't have love in their life. They don't have like family or anything like that. Yeah. But I, I think I do have that, and then from there you kind of go like, well, let me build off of this, you know. So that's what I would remind my, my younger self. I'm like, look, people love you. You're fine.
01;41;26;26 - 01;41;51;26
Unknown
Don't don't sweat the little stuff. And. Yeah, that's that's basically what I would say. Bro, that is. Yeah, yeah. No, thank you very much for sharing, Emma and I really. Yeah, I think you probably have that everybody that I notice like, you know, the do the right things have those things because I noticed when you don't have that you you respond through trauma like you trauma respond through that.
01;41;51;26 - 01;42;08;17
Unknown
And then you find a partner that you don't really care for someone that treats you badly or something like that. That's what it usually comes from. Because then you go on like, well, I have this emptiness in me, so I have to find someone to fill this emptiness in me. Well, you got to know, like you got to fill it yourself.
01;42;08;20 - 01;42;43;20
Unknown
Find something, you know, comedy for us, it's comedy for us. Sometimes it's like acting for you, too. I'm not much. I don't really act. But, yeah, you could be a nice, you know, a villain or something. Want to say that? But, you know, I probably would be a good villain, but, you know, find something that will fulfill that thing in you that you got to, you know, have in your self first and only then will I think that you'll be able to find a partner that will go like, all right, well, this elevate whatever I feel because if you just do the negative, where are you?
01;42;43;20 - 01;43;03;14
Unknown
Like, oh, I'm fucking depressed, then this person will be like, all right, well, I'm going to help you not feel this way. Well then now you just become the sponge or the, you know, the you just put the your depression onto them. You know, I mean, yeah. So, yeah, that's a lot of, advice. No, no, it's very delve advise, man.
01;43;03;14 - 01;43;20;22
Unknown
And, you know, as a person, I know you since we started comedy. Yeah, we have the. Oh, yeah. That, No, definitely. See the growth man. Oh, thanks. Definitely the growth, even the way you're talking now, because I'm like, oh, that's do, do now, you know, which is that. Yeah. I mean yeah, yeah. Therapy works sometimes.
01;43;20;22 - 01;43;44;17
Unknown
Yes. It does, you know, going through relationships and shit like that. And I think I was talking to someone else about that earlier, this one, she was talking about a relationship and stuff, and she was talking about whatever. It doesn't matter what she said. But I was telling her, I'm like, you gotta you gotta what? I just said, you gotta like the concrete or the fundamentals.
01;43;44;17 - 01;44;10;15
Unknown
You have to worry about that first. The only way you'll find a partner that is actually good for you is if you know what's good for you, right? That's the only way. Because if you are in a negative state, you will only find someone that's also in a negative state, because that is what your your kind of that's what is sucking the energy shit.
01;44;10;15 - 01;44;29;12
Unknown
This is the energy that you're coming out with where you're like, I'm negative, I'm negative, I'm negative. The only people that will be attracted to that are the negative people, because why would only one positive look at some fucking sad fuck in the corner and be like, oh no, I need to save her or something like that's like, oh, that's that's already a negative.
01;44;29;12 - 01;44;47;11
Unknown
What do you feel like? You have to save someone, right? Yeah, I remember I think at one point I did feel that way. And now that I've kind of grown and I would just see sad people at, like a comedy club or at a bar, I'm like, this is for you. Grow up, you fucking gross. You know, grow with, oh, what just happened?
01;44;47;11 - 01;45;10;16
Unknown
What it's like for. Yeah, this is good. Let's. Yeah. What was the the judgment. The judgment is still there. So grow up to. It was right there. I'm just kidding how this guy just did that for the last year.
01;45;10;18 - 01;45;37;28
Unknown
That was just gone back to the past. Just for that one last. Just for the last thing. Just just end on a nostalgic note. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You grow up. That's the word of the day. Grow up, calm down. You say grow up. Oh, man. Well, this is a full circle moment. I mean, in many different ways, but, myself to have you here.
01;45;38;00 - 01;45;53;16
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Thank you. Podcast. You know, I, for anyone that they didn't know, we started it. You know what? Like last year or whatever. And then we kind of, you know, you doing your thing. I did my thing. But it's good to have you back on. Was it last year? You know, it was. Yeah, it was a year.
01;45;53;16 - 01;46;13;06
Unknown
And it's because you've been here a year, year and a half. So you've been. Yeah. You know, you're in like eight months or something that we started in January, February. Ellen. It was cold. Yeah. Yeah I remember we did that and then no, but it's good to see that you're still doing it and that things are positively happening for you as a result of your work in this podcast.
01;46;13;06 - 01;46;34;16
Unknown
So I'm happy to say that you're still doing it. Oh man. Thank you bro. Yeah. Honestly. Truly. Yeah, yeah. Happy that it's that it's, giving you more opportunities and stuff like that. None. Eventually this will probably be its own. Just fucking like, whatever. What do you call the long tail? What'd you say? Yeah. Long tail thing of, like, eventually, you know, this being a bigger thing.
01;46;34;16 - 01;46;51;23
Unknown
But people, this has already been written about to. Yeah, it's already in the press and all that shit. Yeah. Inevitable. Yeah. And and also hearing different stories too. Like, I don't even know about that and where it comes from. So even learning more about that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah I think it's important for people to like know all these aspects of culture and things.
01;46;51;23 - 01;47;04;26
Unknown
Oh yeah. Yeah. We didn't really talk. I mean, I guess we did. And then we talked about New York in general. And so yeah, I mean, it's more stuff, but I think that's for I mean, hey, bro, you know, you you have some insightful stuff. So whatever you decide to start, you know, do your own podcast thing or some.
01;47;04;26 - 01;47;22;23
Unknown
Oh yeah. Which I mean, that's, that's his own thing. I mean, you know, podcast is, Yeah, that's a whole other beast. Oh, hell yeah. You've probably got that at the right time. Not out at the right time. Yeah, bro, this thing called the amount of. Yeah, preparation, everything. But I mean, you know, people are more connected to you.
01;47;22;23 - 01;47;44;07
Unknown
Yeah, I would say being on people's podcast. Great song. Your own podcast. That's, Yeah, yeah, that is Yeah, yeah, yeah. But eventually it'll like Joe Rogan. I mean, it's not to compare it to the biggest buyer, but Joe, you didn't like the first almost eight years. You didn't. You just kept doing it. Well, he found it, right?
01;47;44;07 - 01;47;59;26
Unknown
He only found like a well, I mean, that's in the process, the editor or whatever. But the. You remember how he started? It was just like a split screen, three screens in his apartment and nobody knew what the fuck. Oh, right. Right. Yeah. That was like, yeah, this is already a better setup than how he had it. You know what's funny?
01;47;59;26 - 01;48;15;27
Unknown
Yeah. Bread band on a laptop, right? Yeah. It was like dog shit. You know what's funny now is that we start at a time where there's no expectation of a podcast. There is, like, now there's such a, you know, oh, my God, like. And, oh, I think Obama's white or Michelle Obama or Obama for one of them has a podcast.
01;48;15;27 - 01;48;32;03
Unknown
Oh, yeah. That's that's crazy. Yeah. Every every famous person has some type of party. So you competing against like well known. Yeah. Already the good in the world people. Yeah. So like podcast back in the day was done by, you know comedians that were just like, they're not famous and they couldn't make it. So then they just like, what's his name?
01;48;32;03 - 01;48;48;03
Unknown
Theo van. Yeah. He wasn't able to get anything. So he was like, let me do a podcast. Right. And look at that. How he came this. Yeah. Big, big. Yeah. So yeah, all the time, It's inevitable. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But bro, thank you very much for doing this, man. Thank you very much. Thanks for having me, man.
01;48;48;03 - 01;48;55;16
Unknown
And, guys, thank you for listening and are watching the third Call to Talk podcast. I'm new boy and yet often I see you guys in the next one. Peace.
