Ghanaian Household in Small German Town, Social Media vs Modeling, and Knowing Your Worth w/ Emmanuel François | Ep 71

Today I sit with Emmanuel François. We talk about his upbringing in Kiel and living in a African household, and being a model in Germany. His friend, Cédric also shares tips to young creatives as well

We also talk about immigrant parents, working in non traditional fields. Also, tips on fashion, and how to get into modeling

Timestamps
(2:53) Growing Up In Kiel, Germany
(16:42) How I Got Into Modeling
(28:10) Marketing Management The Dream And Modeling The Hobby
(31:29) What Do German People Want
(37:04) How Social Media Is Affecting Modeling Industry
(37:13) Story Of Someone Falling Off The Runway
(38:50) How A Model Can Get Blacklisted
(43:14) Family’s Response To Modeling
(51:36) Top 3 Things To Be Stylish
(55:31) Tips On Getting Into Modeling
(57:08) Knowing Your Worth (From Cedric)
(58:41) Advice To Younger Self
(1:02:44) Closing Remarks (From Cedric)

Emmanuel's socials
Instagram

Cédric's socials
Instagram

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Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;19;22
Unknown
Welcome to the Third Quarter Talk podcast. I'm your host now. Yet often this podcast, we talk of people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life for nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day. So let's get in today's episode.

00;00;19;25 - 00;00;47;00
Unknown
What's going on, man? How are you doing? Hey, man, I'm doing good. Thanks for the invite, man. Thanks for having me up, man. Hey, of course we have to think about this. So how are things? So things been in Berlin. You say you here for, for an event, right? Yeah. So, a friend of mine has had an show on Thursday, and they wanted to come see, because I've got an invited by the designer who is an event VIP pass.

00;00;47;03 - 00;01;12;20
Unknown
But unfortunately, I have to travel a long way. I'm from Kiel. It's like northern Germany above Hamburg. And here I have arrived at like 8 p.m. am. But we went to the after party so at least something. Yeah. Okay. How was the afterparty? Man it was nice. It was nice. So we of course went to the dance because.

00;01;12;26 - 00;01;46;28
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, we covered it and had fun. But some people were just chillin and sitting, you know, and. Yeah, I don't like that. What what kind of music to play? It was a mix of Afro, some new school rap, like, I'd say classics. But, yeah, the deejay had some some bad moments. Let's just say, like that night in the middle of dance, and he just kind of put on some of these, like, how are you?

00;01;47;00 - 00;02;02;23
Unknown
How he hasn't been sound all day. I mean he's play Afrobeats. I'm still surprised. I'm not going to lie. You know, I'm new here in Berlin still. So I be into something like, yo, just play all Afrobeats is playing all this. I'm like, yo, where I'm at? Okay. Like, show me the spot. I'm thinking Berlin just.

00;02;02;23 - 00;02;33;05
Unknown
Or, you know, just German. But clearly it's like a lot of differences and stuff. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. So I think Berlin's also the one of the most cultural cities that I've seen yet. So I'm very comfortable here because you see every kind of people and all languages, like when you on the U-Bahn, when you hear some people speak in Spanish, the other one in English, than the British ones, it's like the whole entire mix.

00;02;33;07 - 00;02;58;20
Unknown
Yeah. But it's nice. Makes me feel a little bit closer to home. So. And where are you from originally. In Germany sir. Q but my parents are from Ghana. My dad was born in France, but he has seen my mother in Ghana at home, of course, and took her to Germany. Wow. Yeah. Oh, now. Okay, so I'm real safe from the motherland back.

00;02;58;20 - 00;03;25;27
Unknown
Okay. And, And how is it there from where you from you say is is cure. Yeah. Okay. It's basically the opposite of Berlin. We don't have urban, we don't have to roam. We don't have esp on what we cooked. Wait wait wait wait wait. So. So how you move by bus. What's this? Oh, shit.

00;03;25;28 - 00;03;52;11
Unknown
What? Yeah, not. But the bus is. Okay. Like, I live in the center, you know, so I can. I can go by bus very easily. But if our living were outside, it would be hard. Wow. Every bus have now 20 minutes or so. But I can take 1 in 5 because I can go to, like, another main street, you know, catch it, catch the bus there.

00;03;52;14 - 00;04;11;18
Unknown
But yeah, via bus or by bus, that is. I ain't gonna lie to you I some that but just only by bus is different than taking a trip. You know the bus. You got to wait outside and then it's cause if I got the best Jack ISMA, I got, you know, that we buy in for the outfits, right?

00;04;11;20 - 00;04;43;13
Unknown
Yeah. You know, when winter collection is on point, Oh, yeah. Also, one big thing that will get y'all confused, but, you know, in the bus, you can hop inside every door, you know? We have to go to the front and so I. Ticket. Oh wow. So that's like real small town like okay. Like like I'm gonna get you in this give you the paper card or you got paid by cash.

00;04;43;15 - 00;05;08;02
Unknown
We can only pay by cash in the bus. Wow. So, so you use prepare for Berlin, then with the whole cash system here, probably. I have not enough cash in my pocket. And what is GoPro in Berlin? You can pay a, your bus ticket. Biochar. I mean, you can, but I mean, everything else, like the restaurant stuff, like, is this, sometimes they like only cash, and then you say, oh, I'm not eating.

00;05;08;02 - 00;05;26;06
Unknown
I don't have no cash. Yeah. And then they'll be like, well, there's an ATM down the street. I'm gonna. You trust me to it, to to, and then come back. And then I think they want some from you, like your passport or something like that. Sometimes they'll be like, yo, atm, go all the way down the street, make a right, go down three streets, then go another right, and then there you go.

00;05;26;06 - 00;05;49;22
Unknown
You. Bye, man. I'm always. I'm almost home. Yeah. I'm basically I'm the Uber. Right. Then I see you later. You know, there's more restaurants in Berlin. I see you, you know. Wow. So. Okay, so, so Ghanaian parents, yeah. You know, you deaf for friends of mine from Ghana. So why why why that part of Germany? You know, man, I don't know.

00;05;49;24 - 00;06;16;00
Unknown
Oh, no. But to be honest, it's not the first time I'm thinking about it. So I had the idea that growing up in Kiel, it's a little, little bit more safe because you aren't influenced by that many people, by that many agendas. Because it comes to us less like we end when we we as city, you know.

00;06;16;03 - 00;06;48;02
Unknown
But yeah. Yeah. So you just you right to the city is like, it's like a village and then city. Yeah. Right to the city. Part just that, but yeah, I think grown up there. You a little bit more safe, you know, it's not that big. People know where, how to get where. So I also think that I will be going back to school when I'm older just to raise my kids, you know, because it's a safe environment.

00;06;48;02 - 00;07;10;27
Unknown
You have your circle, places like you have your fields, you have your hoops. It's okay, it's chill. And I think it's just comfortable living there because you can get lost that easy. And you have everything on your own. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. Especially in Berlin, you can get lost. That's what a lot of people told me. Like Berlin got a lot in the you.

00;07;10;27 - 00;07;34;04
Unknown
You want to get lost, you can get lost. You ain't got to find where to get lost. You just open yourself up. You lost? Yeah. You know, man. Or in Berlin, also, if you got the wrong postcode, you know, man, you can end up there when you supposed to go there. Really? Yeah. So some streets have the same name, you know, but if you have the postcode, you're safe.

00;07;34;07 - 00;07;54;21
Unknown
But if not, you cooked damn potholes. Yeah. Oh, I don't even know. What's that series there? You can. I heard about it, but you know the series. I experienced it when I was in Cologne. I think I want I wanted to go to the new hub. My hotel or house? New house. And I went to the hotel.

00;07;54;21 - 00;08;14;03
Unknown
It on the other side of the city. We were traveling, like, 15 minutes, to the way, to there we was wrong. Went back, almost got wrong. I got lost again. But we found it. Fortunately. Was it areas at least? Was it, like, completely different? Like one side was kind of good. That's how I was bad or just.

00;08;14;03 - 00;08;37;01
Unknown
I just far we lowkey landed in the hood, bro. So he was in. Okay. So same thing works here. Did it works in America. So zip codes or post codes you like. Don't want to even that post code. Yeah. Yeah there are some that you might want to avoid it okay. So say like that. We'll make sure you put it in the description.

00;08;37;03 - 00;08;57;11
Unknown
Avoid is of course, but okay. So, you know, it's always interesting because, you know, grown up in, you know. Yeah, obviously African household, but then Germany, which is like different culture and, you know, I have Ghanaian cousins and stuff like that. And, I mean, most West African, culture is, is loud. Yeah. Loud.

00;08;57;11 - 00;09;14;19
Unknown
Yeah. Very, expressive. You know, you do something small. Why me? Well, you know, it's just like, very like boom. Like. Well, so how how how was that? Just going out west. So you come home, it's like a different culture. You go to, you know, you go to school is the city is like a more quiet culture, you know.

00;09;14;19 - 00;09;47;17
Unknown
Yeah. So, I'll take care of what I'm saying. This. So, like, I cannot say, you know, arguments. Africans are direct, like, if they want to tell you you have a pimple on your nose, they say, man, clean your nose, wipe it. And yeah, some like to people, they just don't want to hurt you. You know, they just a little bit more sensitive, more careful with what they are saying and stuff.

00;09;47;19 - 00;10;08;20
Unknown
Yeah. But we load, we load. We had some noise complaints because my mom was calling to Africa, you know. Oh, that be the one to, upstairs neighbor. Yeah. She even hold her phone to a face. She did it like this right on speaker. I mean, maximum loudness. She shouted, if they can hear you from right here. But she put it this way.

00;10;08;24 - 00;10;31;10
Unknown
Hello? Are you hear me? We all hear you. She did about the person hears you. That is fine. The amount of arguments that I've had with my mom, just because I wanted to have a little bit more peace, you know, like you told your mom. You told your mom you wanted peace. Why is not always okay to say that word in my own house?

00;10;31;10 - 00;11;00;07
Unknown
Peace. What? Oh, man. I know. Hey, mom, can you quieted down? What did you know? Did she make a call? Yell louder. Hit me with that guitar. Close your door. Just like that. Oh, shit. Wow. That must have been an interesting time growing up. Because, you know, Germany and sound. I don't know what it is, man, but they really have a lock on how loud it can be.

00;11;00;08 - 00;11;26;01
Unknown
You know, it's like you, even when you talk loud, you feel like, oh, like, who am I? You know, I woke, but they got the what? The, the old nuns, ordinance and you. Yeah. That's like a they they meant to keep the sound down in businesses, right. And. Yeah, after, like 10 p.m., just like this rule where you are supposed to turn down your loudness, like speakers or stuff, right?

00;11;26;06 - 00;11;47;29
Unknown
When you're outside in Berlin, it's a little bit more different because Berlin's Berlin. But in New York you can go to like, like a sign for it. What? I almost got a sign because I was playing basketball late at night, and there was like, there was like this, this block, you know? Yeah. And people were complaining and calling them.

00;11;48;02 - 00;12;10;06
Unknown
And I was like, yo, I haven't seen the sign. I saw it, but I don't give a fuck when I. So even the sound of a basketball hitting the ground. Yeah. That is to LA. Yeah. Wow. Like it's repetitive you know. But who they family with once. Also if you live close to a playground don't be mad. The people playing at the playground.

00;12;10;06 - 00;12;37;27
Unknown
You feel me. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah we we also had problems when I was younger. Of course. We went to a soccer field and all around was like a block, you know, and it would get locked by 8 p.m. and people were just, like, calling them at 805, you know, coming to LA because when they were like, taking their time to come over, you know.

00;12;38;04 - 00;13;00;15
Unknown
Wow. And yeah, we had problems. Some, some people also took some videos and pictures of us and we were like, why are you taking pictures of us? Delete them. That's crazy. Yo, yo, some currents, bro. Currents? Yeah. Some real male and woman German carriers. So, yeah, that's different. I mean, they all the time with their complaints.

00;13;00;17 - 00;13;22;02
Unknown
They know women like, 3 to 1. Hey, I heard some loud noise. I heard a basketball being bounce on the floor. That's crazy. They got the alarm set. Oh. Okay. So. So this, city. Because I'm always curious. Like, each part of Germany is, like, different, right? Like different. Dwarf is different, right? You know, con and, kill, you know?

00;13;22;02 - 00;13;51;16
Unknown
Yeah. You know. Yeah. Different. Whatever. In terms of, like, the people that lived there, like, what was it was mostly German or so their city. So yeah, it's mostly Germans in their city. We also have Turks, Moroccans, Africans of course, but the percentage is a lot lower I'd say like 70% German. The rest multicultural and it's hard growing up.

00;13;51;18 - 00;14;12;21
Unknown
Let's just say like that because people are like skepticism about everyone. And also not that kind of on the outside you know. So if when you're in Berlin you can talk to people like random, you can give them compliments and stuff. Right. But in here they just look at you weird, you know, and walk past you on this.

00;14;12;26 - 00;14;45;08
Unknown
That's the issue. Like, wow, they just have this general mindset of not talking to anyone, not showing their happiness or facial expressions or something like that outside. They just look like some robots. That's why I'm so comfortable here on Cologne. Just off, just because it's more open people. Doing their own thing and they're, and they're nice to complimenting you on your stuff, you know, just giving love out.

00;14;45;11 - 00;15;06;02
Unknown
Yeah. That's interesting because like, I mean, Berlin, you know, I always have a comparison because I lived in New York City before, so it is a little bit quieter by me than comparison to the places you guys, you know, came from. It's like completely different. So even me here now, I'm just like, oh, it must have been really like just everyone to themselves.

00;15;06;04 - 00;15;31;04
Unknown
No one talking you know. So during that time you were there when you were going to school. Did you play any sports. Yeah I did I played soccer and basketball for like a year both at the same time. But then I transferred fully to basketball because the, schedules for the training were laying over, you know, and I couldn't do all at the same time.

00;15;31;04 - 00;15;54;27
Unknown
And my team was just a little bit. They weren't friendly with me, you know, at soccer. So, I took this, I took the decision and tried something new, went for basketball and went good, nice. I'm happy with that decision. Now. I'm I'm I'm also, looking forward to playing soccer again. Just because the team sport, you know?

00;15;54;29 - 00;16;11;02
Unknown
Yeah. It's nice, I like it. It makes it easy to make friends, too. I feel like sports is a thing where no matter what differences you have. If you want have you guys on the same field, it just becomes like we're all in the same boat. Yeah. One life out there. Yeah definitely. Until you start losing, until you start talking.

00;16;11;03 - 00;16;33;27
Unknown
That's one about me. Yeah. Who brought this person all here. This, why why is he allowed here? You buy some ammo of some amounts. I'm sitting on the bench. You know, and to me was. But. Okay. So used to play basketball and, you know, soccer before and everything. And that was working out. So you actual the actual thing that like how we met.

00;16;33;27 - 00;16;58;21
Unknown
Right. You met, at a comedy club and and I'll come to find out you you model. Yeah, I do, I do, I'm a model. Yeah, yeah. So, like, how'd you get how did that come about? Like, in terms of you get into modeling for, that's a long story about. Oh, I'll keep it short. So one day I got I went to Hamburg and there was a scout from mother and mother avec the agency, and he spoke to me, was like, hey, your fit is nice.

00;16;58;21 - 00;17;23;01
Unknown
I'm an agent. And I wanted to, if if you are interested, I'd like you to apply, like for the agency. Send me. Just, just send me pictures. I'm gonna give you my card. Let's stay in touch, you know, and I took some pictures, sent them over. But the, the whole team wasn't really selling, like, 50%, but not the whole team.

00;17;23;01 - 00;17;47;12
Unknown
So I haven't made it. But then I was thinking, hey, this agent thinks that I could model. And then I was looking into the things, what I can do by myself. And at one day and brand low one just texted me and was like, hey, do you want to do a little photoshoot? And I was like, hey, yes, of course.

00;17;47;20 - 00;18;17;05
Unknown
And with the shoot, I was allowed to get my polos. And then I was just doing applications. Applications went to my first casting and made this year. And yeah, at this casting I've met so many people, stayed in touch with them, and we formed a group called The Collective. And yeah, they we just like found castings, found agencies where we can apply open castings and stuff.

00;18;17;13 - 00;18;42;25
Unknown
Went there. Also, the first time I went to Cologne was forecasting for the Africa Fashion week. Africa Fashion Week. Oh says yeah. But a I made the casting but I was sick unfortunately so I couldn't go. Oh yeah they. Oh yeah. That wasn't that fortunate Well I mean you still keep, you still keep in contact with the number.

00;18;42;25 - 00;19;07;15
Unknown
Yes of course of course. Okay. Got a group and. Yeah. So I went I also met some people. I met some people, of course. I made the Berlin Fashion week this week. Oh, nice. This, this year, I mean, congrats, bro. And at this in this week. I've met so much people. Not gonna lie, I think 200 also like, just just from events.

00;19;07;15 - 00;19;33;15
Unknown
Yeah. Just talk to them, you know, and I will at the end of the week I was just looking at it was like, wow, wow. Yeah. But, yeah, it's not like we're not texting each other, so. But the contact is still there. Not to everyone, but once in a while, you know, just text and checking in on each other and.

00;19;33;15 - 00;19;55;27
Unknown
Yeah, that's not. That's dope, bro. To go back though, right. So I'm always curious, right. You know, born in America but also African met. How was the Africans? Who were you living in? How was the was it any African food that was there, aside from your parents? African restaurant? No, there wasn't no African jam.

00;19;56;04 - 00;20;16;12
Unknown
Yeah. So. Yeah. But my hey, my dad is a chef, so yeah, he graduated in France, so he's cooking always. And my mom was cooking always. And the parents of my friends was cooking always, so. Oh, okay. So you had enough African people that if you wanted some my houses food. Yeah. Okay. So yeah. We good. Okay. So you still had that.

00;20;16;12 - 00;20;44;02
Unknown
You still had that. Yeah. That would been oh I mean I don't know I have optimism but some people say German food is not good. Hey I can you hey let's, let's, let's say the the currywurst. That's love's really vicious slaps. Hold on. When I see man. Right. It does, it does I want to curry verse 36.

00;20;44;05 - 00;21;05;05
Unknown
Okay. And it didn't hit. Maybe I had the wrong one. I don't know. Why don't you take what you're taking what it was. What have you taken with me. Take it like which. Just the classic one. Yeah. Just classic with the curry versus. That's not the case. Us. Yeah. So I had that. And, I think I went to the wrong place.

00;21;05;05 - 00;21;30;02
Unknown
Some people were like, yeah, you you should go to the real one. And you know the places more in the Germany. Yeah. You know, so I went to Shrine School. Oh fine schools like like pig's hometown. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they like, focused on pig, pig meat and stuff. Yeah. And they're doing it crazy. Oh, shit. This this also the favorite one for me.

00;21;30;02 - 00;21;50;22
Unknown
Like, I like the. I like that a lot, but I'm not even in that anymore. You know, I really. Yeah. I'm, I a diet. Oh, you know that. All right. Modeling. You got to be like, Oh man. Well, okay, this is stuff that always is interesting, right? African cuisine and food is not helpful for a diet for a model.

00;21;50;25 - 00;22;14;20
Unknown
So how do you balance. Because look the Africans could be so heavy. Believe me. Any time I'll be on a diet bottle of palm oil just. Yeah, man. Never admit any. I'm. I'm making food. I never look at it because you look at all the ingredients. I'm like, oh, my, this is crazy. This is a heart attack in a bowl, right?

00;22;14;22 - 00;22;40;22
Unknown
This is crazy. Wow. But to be honest, I don't really have these issues because I just have this build that I'm not easily gaining weight, you know? Oh, no, you cannot see it that quick. So I can eat what I want, but I'm taking care of the nutrients and stuff. So African food is helping. Yes. It's nice, you know.

00;22;40;26 - 00;23;06;16
Unknown
Can I get all it? Yeah. But, also eating, like, more fruits and stuff. Drinking a lot of water just to, like, clean my body and stuff. Yeah, but not that big of a change, except for, like, nutrients and foods. Like fruits. Yeah, it's more of that stuff. Okay. So you are so modern in the industry.

00;23;06;16 - 00;23;24;12
Unknown
So you fairly like new in the industry. Sounds like. Yeah. Right. And how's it been so far. Like I mean you know Germany is majority white right. And then you, you know you come in and you're a black dude or so how has it been like as a black dude in the modeling industry in Germany so far?

00;23;24;15 - 00;23;51;22
Unknown
To be honest it wasn't good. Nice. Wasn't good. At most of the shows, like I had some shows of Africans, you know, and stuff where white people and were in the minority, for example. But yeah, being black is low key an advantage, you know, because you are different after you, like, you're fit, your style is different, your face is different.

00;23;51;22 - 00;24;20;01
Unknown
Your hair's different. And. Yeah, that that's that. I'm fucking up, man. But, my English is English, bro. We in Germany, this is going to be, this is all German podcast. Everything. So whatever this is, but, it's an advantage working at first, you know, like being the first one to work. The last one to work to close it.

00;24;20;04 - 00;24;45;07
Unknown
It's nice because people can give you the outfits that some people cannot rock, you know, like you, you're different. Okay, give me an example of an outfit that only say you or I say some of you build a camera, but no one else really can't. Okay. At a fashion show for a clothing shout out. And that was, wearing actually and green suit.

00;24;45;14 - 00;25;11;19
Unknown
Well, with designs like a big, shit. Yeah. A big suit design. Written on it was wedding. Oh, okay. And that was like a big red rose on it. Yeah. And then I had this the suit on the, the top had also on the back a big, sign saying wedding. And then here the big, red rose.

00;25;11;21 - 00;25;37;19
Unknown
It was a crazy fit. It was a crazy fit. And, I looked at everyone that was there, but it wasn't fitting, you know, he saw me, and he was like. You're the one. That's about. Yeah. I'm this. Yeah. Let's go. Because, like, you know, a lot of people have, you know, different experiences and stuff in different industries.

00;25;37;22 - 00;25;55;17
Unknown
And, you know, to your point, I think, when you from a just a different culture. Yeah, it's just like, unique is kind of like, whoa, what's that from? And I feel like that's the case a lot when you come to, like, places like Germany or like, you know, going to Eastern Europe or something, maybe Eastern Europe a little, maybe, you know, a little rougher.

00;25;55;20 - 00;26;19;13
Unknown
Yeah. Germany seen like the place where it's like, all right, especially in the cities, is more like, oh, I see from, you know, you from this part of Africa. Are you from this place or you have a certain build, you know, hey, we would like to put you in things just because they're curious. I don't know, like, if that's how you feel, like they, you know, either curiosity or is it just different that they just want to have a different.

00;26;19;15 - 00;26;52;20
Unknown
Yeah. I think people are low key chasing this one point of variety like just one. Okay. This is different but it's fit. It fits. So let's just do it that way. And yeah I think most cities that's the case. Yeah that's a good point because you know before coming here to Berlin I just always assume you just, you know I guess especially as a black do coming from America, just always assume that it's just all German, all white and stuff.

00;26;52;28 - 00;27;08;27
Unknown
So when you come here you're like, oh no, it's like especially in Berlin. It's like it's not like. I mean, like I got a lot while I first got here. Like when I first came to like move bro, I was going on the Google Maps to find like, food. Yeah, it's like African food. I'm like, oh, okay. Here.

00;27;08;27 - 00;27;25;07
Unknown
Right. I went there and was good. I'm like, I think I might be able to live here. Yeah, I think this is, this is very good. You know. And then just seeing like, different, you know, places where people like even a slut place. Right. Slapped having like, a majority, like black, like, you know, so even do for Atlanta.

00;27;25;13 - 00;27;47;25
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, I was surprised. I was like, oh, shit. I like, you know, it just was something that you assume because I think Americans have a some shared by Europe. Yeah, it's mostly white where especially Germany. Right. I mean this to me, sometimes we make a joke. This is where white people come from, Germany. Some of you see some real white, like pale blue eyes, very sharp.

00;27;47;26 - 00;28;07;00
Unknown
You know, you. But okay, this is this is Delaney answers. This is source. Yeah. But then you come in and you obviously you see people from different cultures and backgrounds and stuff, but so after so after school, you went so high school, did you go to college or and or and then I did know went to college. I'm planning on doing an apprenticeship now.

00;28;07;01 - 00;28;32;11
Unknown
Nice. Yeah. In the field of marketing and communication. Yeah. Because I want to do marketing management when I'm older and make a living off it. And modeling is a hobby that has been playing into it, you know, because yeah when I, when I used to look at billboards and stuff I seen models but I wasn't like oh yo, this is a model that got paid to do this.

00;28;32;11 - 00;29;10;16
Unknown
You know, it's doing he's doing it professionally. But now I'm walking to the city, see a post. Oh, or like, oh no, like, okay, cut. Wood. What's that called? I say German and maybe, so on the side of the street is a is a facility that comes in post on placards on England. So, not to, I don't know, like, I kind of build, but yeah, not like kind of way with formed like a cylinder, you know.

00;29;10;16 - 00;29;35;07
Unknown
Oh, they just circle and they will turn and. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a circular thing. It spins or something. And so. Yeah, how you say a German man. Oh fucking know. How do you speak German word, man? That's not a word that I'm using. Oh, okay. You just say like that. That did. Yeah. The the that's how the United States are going German with like, that little thing.

00;29;35;10 - 00;29;58;06
Unknown
But. Yeah. And now I get a different view of that. It feels like a behind the scenes, you know? And it has been playing into it. And I also met people that are doing marketing management, for example. And that is very nice because, via modeling, you meet people and you, they do some shit that you don't expect from them.

00;29;58;06 - 00;30;25;14
Unknown
Like, like you see one, you see a model, and next thing you know, he's working on like he's working constructions, like they tell 20ft tall up there, like doing some shit, you know, I don't know, they'd be doing some random stuff, but it's nice to just know and get to know the field or the their profession and just getting some inspiration off it.

00;30;25;16 - 00;30;45;07
Unknown
So, so the marketing management. So that's the thing you want, you want to ultimately do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's the dream. That's a dream. Is that something you always wanted to do. No. But I found the, I made the decision in the 10th grade because I was just like hey I needed a job.

00;30;45;09 - 00;31;16;06
Unknown
Artificial intelligence is coming, you know, and some shit can get replaced by it very easily. You know, I think marketing is something that you need real people for, you know, like, just the mindset and the understanding of people, what they want, you know? And yeah, I thought that this was a match for me. So I started searching and doing it.

00;31;16;08 - 00;31;34;12
Unknown
Okay. So what are your thoughts in terms of what German people want or like say in general, like you notice so far? I mean, just whatever comes to market, you, you, you know, this is the I mean, you know, when you're marketing, you have some assumptions or you in a game now, especially as a person who shows appearance.

00;31;34;12 - 00;31;52;07
Unknown
So yeah, there's some idea of, okay, I know if I where it is, this gives me this one where this, this happens. I think minimalistic things are something that that is going to.

00;31;52;10 - 00;32;19;19
Unknown
Minimalistic things are some this something that is making its progress right now. Like within simple animation. Just a quick line like just three phrases also. Yeah. Very short of course because people's attention spans so down not working. And man people be jumping from TikTok right into real life like okay is longer than 10s. My brain is out.

00;32;19;20 - 00;32;40;21
Unknown
Come on, give me something. And if you talk to them, they might need a split screen also. So yeah, the split screen out of my displayed at two x speed where I come on stock fast I need commas too long. That's great. Yeah. But just something that grabs the attention and keeps but not for too long because some things are not worth showing it that long.

00;32;40;21 - 00;33;05;12
Unknown
You know, like okay, a carrot or something that you want to see a whole minute of, you know, because you can explain the car in eight seconds. Nuh. Do you think like social media has affected like modeling. Like, have you seen anything that has been affected like I don't know because you know social media. So people lines are like so quick, quick, quick to jump from one thing to another I don't know.

00;33;05;12 - 00;33;11;09
Unknown
Have you found like social media affecting the modeling industry?

00;33;11;11 - 00;33;47;29
Unknown
I'd say, people that are doing social media are coming more into the field of modeling. That's what I have noticed because I also have friends that were doing social media beforehand. And just because of their reach and their like facial recognition, they've gotten invited to do some shows. So, yeah. And yeah, yeah. Social is it's just giving you more opportunities, you know, because who's watching.

00;33;48;01 - 00;34;15;21
Unknown
True. Yeah. So behind the phone, there could be anybody. Somebody might fly you out or not. That is true. Opportunity is there. So just take it personally. Would you say that with social media, especially with someone who's very famous on social media, that they have more, space to like time is space, let me just say. So what, a like a large social media following that, maybe you don't have to do things exactly.

00;34;15;21 - 00;34;32;17
Unknown
Or work that would say work as hard, but like, say, for example, the walk like walking modeling. That's like a real thing. Bro, you seen Kylie Jenner? Yeah. She is. She has gotten invited to shows, but her walk.

00;34;32;19 - 00;34;47;00
Unknown
I mean, because at that point she's so famous that, like, you know, just her in a room that's like, you just stand. Yeah. And we will pay money. So walking is like, oh my God, we get extra. Oh, my God. Like, whoa, whoa, we think she's going to walk. But the same goes also with reference and stuff. Yeah.

00;34;47;03 - 00;35;14;21
Unknown
Oh yeah I thought, oh Trevor Scott for example, we had we have. Yeah. Gunner Quavo wow. Offset. Offset went for I think if Sandler. But I'm not that sure. But he was doing some shots. Yeah. Because oh. I mean, at that point because it takes time, but you gotta, we gotta, like, practice to walk. Yeah.

00;35;14;23 - 00;35;45;28
Unknown
Runway wasn't easy. I've gotten coached and I thought it was more easy, but to the moment where I had to do push ups, bro. Force me to do push ups just because I wasn't walking like, 100% on the beat, right? Or, like, in sync with another one, you know, like, practice is also if you have a person standing next to you, start with the right feet and just have the same pace to toe.

00;35;45;29 - 00;36;15;09
Unknown
So, so you know, and yeah, it's not uncommon for shows or designers to have that kind of walk. So you better be able to do that, you know. And yeah, I've gotten coached I did that, learned it. And it's not easy. It's more to it than you think. But if you mastered your you are safe. You're safe even if you are scared.

00;36;15;11 - 00;36;36;11
Unknown
At my first show, I was scared to walk, but I walked good. I walked in straight line. I was good face was there. Oh, yeah. Keeping the modeling face is, the model for keeping. Keeping it is crazy. Yeah. I don't know what the model phase is. It's kind of like caring, but not caring. Calm, you know, just neck straight or something, I don't know.

00;36;36;12 - 00;36;56;07
Unknown
Yeah. By the line. Like, I don't know, I be watching sometimes like, yo bam. Like, this is a whole that is keeping, you know, everyone's watching you. The lights, you gotta. Yeah. We get scared of falling now. Nah. Oh okay. So you, you okay. You, you really got you really on your game right. Yeah. Yeah. Hey don't forget you can see something at the corner of your eye, you know.

00;36;56;07 - 00;37;20;23
Unknown
So mastering that that's helped me. But yeah I saw also my photo. Have you ever saw somebody's photo? Yeah. Haha. All set. My first show. I was it was crazy. She went to the front of the runway and she had her face off. You know, she wasn't like, like chicken, you know, the she show off the.

00;37;20;24 - 00;37;47;05
Unknown
Yeah, she fell off. She fell over. But I was backstage you know I haven't seen how they handled it. Yeah man. Oh I love that fall after this. Did no one do I don't fall no more. You like. Can't have that happening to me. Hell no. When doing that. Oh she fell off this yo. Okay. Oh okay.

00;37;47;09 - 00;38;05;13
Unknown
What did fall. And then like you know, before you pick yourself back up off the stage, I mean, we, we climb back up, we just. I won't leave this. He just look at the door like, okay, thank you. I'll just grab my stuff and I see you, see you at the next show. I see you guys later. Excuse me, excuse me.

00;38;05;14 - 00;38;30;10
Unknown
Should going. Don't post it though. Post this post, cover Facebook. Walk of shame. Oh walk of shame. Right out the door. Walk out with the outfit. Just keep outfit. You could go, don't worry about it. We're not going to use it. That that is in Germany. It's a place. Oh, that's okay. I see why you're like, no, I'm.

00;38;30;13 - 00;39;03;28
Unknown
I can't have that hat. Yeah. No. Oh, man. And I think also there are some people, you know, also designers and I think that could, could potentially get you blacklisted if, if a model is wearing the clothes that you design and then they fall and then like the model falls to do something that night. Yeah. For example, if you eat in them clothes, you know, get the, get a ketchup stain on it, you cooked, you cooked, you cooked, you cooked really bad, bro.

00;39;03;28 - 00;39;28;00
Unknown
You did yours. You are not you are not allowed to drink or eat in them outfits. You are not. So. Oh not. No I am. Yeah. What. Yeah. Hey I had, I had the, I was like I wanted to eat you know real bad bro. And I was like man let me take that off. I took it off okay.

00;39;28;00 - 00;39;50;12
Unknown
You took it off okay. I think you just stay there just starving I did too. Yeah I would say that too. Wow. Yeah. You so like those type of clothing the designs. It is like they got to have two people that put it on you and. Yeah. Yeah. When, when that kind of like kind of fit I'm starving man I'm starving.

00;39;50;18 - 00;40;08;10
Unknown
Yeah. Most people don't understand like the, the tough things a model goes to. Yeah. Like see the screen, you know this year. Yeah. And that's a mental I mean because mentally like I don't know about you, but the minute I start getting hungry or starving, my brains are going to fool, like, where's the food? I see, you know, I'm always looking at it.

00;40;08;10 - 00;40;51;27
Unknown
Okay, okay. When's it gonna be done? What's going to be done so I can keep food if you see people eat it? Some people. How? Some people do eat in themselves. The dress, of course, you can take care. But I think it's also disrespectful, you know, just to put the clothing, the hard work of the designer or at risk, you know, just because you are hungry, like at the end, you are marketing yourself, you know, and you look better if you are just following the rules, you know, just keeping a professional, keeping a low key and eat afterwards because then it might ruin you some opportunities.

00;40;52;00 - 00;41;16;12
Unknown
Wow. So I mean, that's so stressful, right? Like, I mean, you know, cause have to worry about your image the way you perceives even your actions as basic as eating food and stuff. How do you balance all of those, like stresses? Like while doing this modeling thing? To be honest, I pray and I'm also talking a lot like of friends and stuff.

00;41;16;12 - 00;41;44;21
Unknown
Just just exchanging, keeping up, keeping us updated, you know, because when I have friends down there, Munich friends and Cologne maybe, and, you know, just updating each other, talking, getting the time to run faster, you know? Okay. So, so we can get that over. Yeah. Yeah. But just focus also I chose to be there you know.

00;41;44;21 - 00;42;02;28
Unknown
So might as well have fun and enjoy it with the limits. There we go. True, true. Yeah. You said that that hunger thing. I'm not gonna lie because, you know, in New York City, I used to act and stuff. Maybe. So it seems. If I had to take my shirt off or something or whatever, you know, I mean, on a camera, you just gotta be.

00;42;02;28 - 00;42;30;00
Unknown
You got to lose more weight. Do you think you and I sort of. Things are like, you know, not drinking water a certain amount and not eating a certain types of foods you don't get, like, if you know your body don't look puffy. Yeah. And yeah, man, that is, and you have to workout too, like, just to keep your body in shape because you may be getting an outfit where you have to be like your belly is exposed and stuff, and you have to flex it the whole time.

00;42;30;00 - 00;42;51;03
Unknown
Hey, I had to, so I had to flex my belly, I think for about 20 minutes or so. Watch for real. Just just it was hard and you have to act like you was not doing it, all right. So you had to like, just, you know, have a straight face and just. Wow. Yeah. So yeah there's some, there's some things that come with it.

00;42;51;06 - 00;43;15;27
Unknown
So as a dude especially like a woman that flex on a six pack, you know. Right. But yeah just taking care of the body. Yeah. So how you family feel about like not modeling like outside that. Because I know modeling is not usually the the career track models. You know, immigrant parents have planned for the kids. So how does it.

00;43;15;29 - 00;43;40;00
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. This morning, this morning we had a conversation about it and. Oh, for the castings, for the African fashion Week, you know, I thought that I might tell my mom I'm going to Hamburg, you know, because I never went to Cologne, and I think she never. So it's a little bit like, don't go alone, you know?

00;43;40;00 - 00;44;02;02
Unknown
But I was like, hey, I'm gonna tell the truth, you know, it's the African Fashion week. It's nice. It's a it's a cultural event, you know? And she was like, if you are going, don't come back on Monday, don't come back, don't come back. And then of course you don't come back to like where are you. You, you're like well told me not to come back right.

00;44;02;04 - 00;44;23;12
Unknown
Now she did not ask me. The only thing that she was asking me was like are you bringing my laptop back. Yeah it was a little bit ruthless. But yeah at the end I came back, I was struggling, you know, I was like just driving around in the bus and thinking and thinking and thinking what I'm going to do.

00;44;23;14 - 00;45;04;11
Unknown
But then I went for some ice cream, bought her some like knocked at home. Nah, I ring the doorbell, you know, she opened and I was like, hey, here's some ice cream. And she was like, okay, so put on that charm. Now, yo, I think African parents are lowkey overreacting because for example, if you think that you're going to make a big in soccer, you know, and push soccer so much that you are like low key, worsening your grades in school, they'd say, hey, don't go to soccer anymore, you know?

00;45;04;14 - 00;45;36;16
Unknown
And the feeling of. Lacking support from the parents is hard, you know, because, I also considered to start modeling, you know, and just because the smoke that I had with my mom was not that comfortable, you know? So this is my mom, you know, and she thinks I cannot do it. It's sad, you know, but if she gets mad about me still doing the.

00;45;36;18 - 00;45;51;15
Unknown
I just want to avoid, like, the conflict, you know, and my dad supported me, though. Oh, nice. So he gave me the power to keep doing it. You know.

00;45;51;17 - 00;46;26;29
Unknown
But yeah. Yeah. This it was emotional, you know, had some fights with my mom about it. Especially that I have gotten accepted by an agency. But it also was the moment, was the moment where I was able to tell my parents, hey, I'm able to make money off it, you know? And I think until you are reaching this point, your parents are not, like, supporting it that much, because it might seem like a waste of time.

00;46;27;02 - 00;46;54;05
Unknown
You know? And I mean, okay, I'm going to say a lot, you know, but, I was playing soccer. I am, as I mentioned, and like my mom, unfortunately, you have only went to one game, you know, that I played, and like, 13 years of soccer. You feel me? Oh, wow. And it's just an African thing, you know, they support you.

00;46;54;05 - 00;47;20;08
Unknown
They wish you good luck and stuff. Have fun, have fun. But like the coming out side's going out your way to just look at it. You know take your Sunday two hours three hours or so just to go watch the sun. It's not something that's so usual, you know, because Africans are you know that too, you know.

00;47;20;08 - 00;47;41;06
Unknown
But yeah, they're not that good at showing the love, you know, with effects. But yeah, they'll give you the feeling that they love you, you know, and support you on the but the, the I'm gonna give you a hug and a kiss on your forehead. It's not that often you feel me. So yeah. That's an, that's an issue.

00;47;41;06 - 00;48;11;16
Unknown
That's just this coming with it, you know. Oh yeah. Especially like modeling is it's not serious, you know, and their eyes is not serious. Yeah. I mean yeah. In their eyes for me. Hey it's a hobby that works right. But you know appearance is a big thing. And then I think to your point because you know also having African parents and doing things like look I mean just even leaving most of my family coming to Berlin, people are like, whoa, what, what what's over there that you want to go away?

00;48;11;16 - 00;48;31;08
Unknown
Therefore, I'm like, yeah, I want to go. But why? Like, what's a family? This now, what are you going to do? And I think when you start showing that you can make it and you making money, you make your way, that in itself just kind of because I feel like a sphere from the appearance of just like I, I'm worried what will happen the way we had a struggle to get to where we are now is not the same way.

00;48;31;11 - 00;48;47;04
Unknown
I don't understand it. When you start, make it. When you start making it, when I'm in the money. But when you start making your way an issue, we come back. How's everything? Everything is fine looking at you. You find you well dressed every day. But after what I want, I guess he's. Yeah. He doesn't look homeless. He not, you know, it's hair.

00;48;47;06 - 00;49;08;21
Unknown
You gotta shape up. Everything got nice. You know, closed. And then I thought, I guess he's fine, I guess, you know, but it takes time. Yeah, yeah, it takes time. But, hey, for example, my mom is now texting me or telling me when I'm going to a show. Take care of yourself. You know, have fun. So, yeah. So beginning.

00;49;08;21 - 00;49;29;05
Unknown
So if you're just starting, don't worry, don't worry. It might work out in the end. And if not something else. Well so yeah. And then they, they didn't want you to be fine. And then for African parents you don't want to see it. And you know you're not asking or you they just look at you it. Oh okay.

00;49;29;05 - 00;49;47;07
Unknown
I guess they say doing my mom is to be the same way. And and after a while she's like, nah, I guess this is your way, you know, I mean, you're fine. You're not. You know, you're not acting bad. You're not locked up. You're not this not whatever. So better you doing this thing. You support yourself than something else crazy here, you know, which I don't know how it is in Germany.

00;49;47;07 - 00;50;20;13
Unknown
I know in America, that's the. Yeah. Like gangs all rights and everything. You know, I'd say same here. Yeah, we have some. We have some over here. It's a bit serious like in and not that really. You know, but I'd say in the area of north and west one and everywhere, it's quite common. Oh wow. Yeah. So you might see and, or you might see some notes with robbery or theft or so you know, or maybe, murder, you know, maybe asked.

00;50;20;15 - 00;50;45;19
Unknown
But that's not something that's, that's, that's out of the picture, you know. Yeah. So still even out here too. Okay. Awesome. Berlin. There's some. Oh, yeah. Berlin. Yeah. Yeah. So, like, in the big cities, you know, they're doing some shit. Yeah. They done it. Yeah. Berlin. Definitely. If you go to some parts I'm like oh this feels like some from parts of New York City I know.

00;50;45;19 - 00;51;07;09
Unknown
But. Yeah. It's sketchy. You know some people looking at you kind of like trying to sell you know or it's the wrong place. They would watch you go. Yeah. You know start looking at you. You start really like staring at you, looking at you. But you a little too long. What size them shoes. My size, my size.

00;51;07;12 - 00;51;29;15
Unknown
Oh, shit. This is crazy. Yeah. All right, so, you're model, right? And, I feel like this is probably something that can help out a lot of people that I feel like, appearance and clothing are very important for people. Yeah. So. So, like, in your. If I. A question I have for you is what are the top three things someone should focus on, on their attire.

00;51;29;15 - 00;52;07;01
Unknown
Like to really like make them look like good. Man. If you're going to a special occasion, wear clean clothes. Keep that take face at home. Maybe get yourself clean your shoes. Clean your shoes. Your shoes are not ugly. They're just dirty. And get you some jewelry. Get you some jewelry, you know, just to stand out a little bit, you know, get, like, the two different earrings.

00;52;07;02 - 00;52;33;24
Unknown
Okay? Okay. So you know, maybe some chains. Just something to give you a fit. The source, you know, taking notes, by the way. Yeah. So the, the, the, different eras. Okay. Change and then clean shoes, not their issues. Yeah. And get you get some more pairs of jeans. Yeah. Some different colors you know some sweaters and you'll be good.

00;52;33;27 - 00;52;55;18
Unknown
You be good. Just focus a little bit on your attire. Just if you're going to a networking event, you know, might look clean with a little bit of jewelry just to stand out or for some people to have some to look at you, you know, like I have I have this chain. It brought me here. We met. Yeah.

00;52;55;21 - 00;53;14;21
Unknown
You know. Yeah. You know, you use, use looking like a famous, person that's in trouble right now. When you. Look in trouble. What? Many things, someone will do with oil. I mean, a lot of things that.

00;53;14;24 - 00;53;33;11
Unknown
Might leave you alone with that baby. All right. Yeah, just a resemblance. I'm not even saying that's you. That's just, you know, if you put the chain in the jacket, just, you know, just add a reminder or something. Yeah. So that's for you guys to know. He called me. Did you?

00;53;33;14 - 00;53;49;07
Unknown
Look. Yeah. The reason why was that you had a leather jacket that looked like it looked bad boyish, you know, from the bad boy era. And you had some chains on, and then, you know, you had the. You had it. Yeah. That's. You have some dirty glasses to share some dirty shades on inside. That is a dirty boy.

00;53;49;07 - 00;54;06;23
Unknown
Do you, I mean, okay, now that was some see, there was some see through glass shades. Okay. Like, just just classroom and stuff. But you was chill. It was like, you know, because, you know, some people that are moguls, they kind of I don't, you know, so you, I'm telling jokes. You kind of like,

00;54;06;25 - 00;54;28;16
Unknown
Yeah. And then you like, you like 50. I was like, oh, this dude was down by then. I had to do the dirty, you know, so, if you had a comedy club and, you know, he's American, be quiet, man. No, they're coming for you. Right? They coming for you. Say one wrong thing. They come for, you know, whatever.

00;54;28;16 - 00;54;44;16
Unknown
Call a person that it's not fly did it? Right. So that means you so fly. You reminded someone of a person. I used to be very good and fly. So there you go. Take it, take it. Yeah. I'm gonna take it. Oh, I'm gonna take it. I'm gonna take it. Oh, you know, has a dirty jacket on, you know.

00;54;44;20 - 00;55;06;28
Unknown
Oh, that's not a look. I mean, I you person, I mean, I don't push it. So there's a disclaimer. Dude, he's in jail. I don't condone thousands of bottles of baby oil. We don't like, you know, probation for you. Yeah. I don't listen to any bad boy stuff. Maybe Biggie Smalls, but, you know, other than that, no.

00;55;06;28 - 00;55;30;04
Unknown
Yeah. No, we won't stop. You know, I think you didn't stop. So. Okay, so they get give us the tips on the modeling stuff or whatever. Well, okay, here's what here's here's here's here's my question. What are what are some tips you can give to someone who would like to get into modeling?

00;55;30;07 - 00;55;55;26
Unknown
Make sure that you confident of yourself. And when you have the casting, I'm like, I'm gonna tell an experience that I had that mic, first casting. So I was scared. You know, I thought, it's more like a competition. Until I talk to the people there. And it was more of, y'all. We're all trying to make it.

00;55;55;28 - 00;56;28;02
Unknown
And that helped a lot. Also, if you are not getting picked, just know to people that are deciding whether you are in or not know what's best for them. So don't be mad or sad just because you haven't gotten the job. It's just about understanding that you are not fitting, but you're still a nice person. You still have the looks, but it's not fitting for the show.

00;56;28;05 - 00;57;00;07
Unknown
You know? And you. Also. Don't don't be too much concerned about your looks, your hair or your shoes. As long as you go there and show that you are confident within yourself, you are most likely to make it. Yeah. And one thing I actually. Hey, come on, take the mic. Yeah. No, come on, take the, oh. Take the mic.

00;57;00;08 - 00;57;37;01
Unknown
Throw is in the said. Yeah. Okay, guys, one thing. Just one thing. No. You worth? No. You're, That's what I'm saying, because sometimes, sometimes people are thinking, okay, modeling is always okay. Like I have to do it even if I don't like to or even if I don't feel to. No, you don't have to. You just have to know your worth and your worth is also like making your personality also in front of the client or whatever the brand or whoever, because he's saying or they saying or knowing or seeing that, okay, that person knows what you want or what she doesn't want, and that makes it also part of the.

00;57;37;03 - 00;58;02;20
Unknown
Yeah. Of your personality. Yeah. Just so you know, hey, captain, nice. I know your work, I like that. Yeah, that. Is that for real? Especially in this industry. Yeah, that is important right there. Oh, that's important. Thank you for sharing that, man. I support. Yeah. Nice and warm. Wow okay. So all right, one more question I have for you.

00;58;02;27 - 00;58;29;19
Unknown
I'd like to ask people this in every podcast episode. Yeah. Is that you've been to a lot of things, you know, in terms of, you where you grew up, you know, in terms of the culture balance and gun. Ghanaian culture, German culture is small town. German culture, from you going from plays, soccer, basketball, getting to modeling now that you you still got along, you know, you still got so much, you know, in front of you in terms of modeling, what is some advice you can give?

00;58;29;21 - 00;58;40;22
Unknown
What what's an advice you give to your younger self? With all the things you've gone through so far,

00;58;40;25 - 00;59;10;17
Unknown
Be sure that you are. Going to make it each way. Has a corner. You know, take it because it might look sketchy, you know? But at the end it is the right to decision to take the left or or the right, you know, because I was, I was a, I love, I loved soccer, I love my team, you know, I love my trainer.

00;59;10;20 - 00;59;32;20
Unknown
But it wasn't clicking anymore. So I was like, hey, might take the right to basketball. And basketball was crazy. You had a nice four years, you know, and, yeah, it's still something that I like to do when I'm outside, you know, just play some hoops with my friends, just kick some balls, and at the end, it won't leave you.

00;59;32;26 - 00;59;53;10
Unknown
It won't leave you. If you want to, you can do it all the time. You are young. You know, right now I'm 20, you know, so if I have a long life, I have enough time to do what I want. So just don't say I don't got time for that or not right now. You know?

00;59;53;13 - 01;00;15;23
Unknown
You have time. Schedule it and do it. Nice. That's very important to me. Just go ahead and do it. No overthinking. Just go ahead and. Yeah, you know, do it. No matter where you go, you'll find good currywurst and, you know, long. You have the right gear in the right jacket. You make it anywhere you, But now, bro, this is done for me.

01;00;15;23 - 01;00;46;00
Unknown
Do you want anything you want to share? Anything else? Are you. I mean, no. All right. Now. But I mean, this this is dope, man. Because, look, again, I think it's very important to just hear people from different parts of, you know, society, not society, but say different, type of work and stuff in Germany and especially to and this is probably from the people in America, because the people still have assumptions about Germany and not even having black people in Germany.

01;00;46;00 - 01;01;13;11
Unknown
So just hear you guys driving and doing good and everything. I don't know what I want to say. Back people in Germany be confident in your skin. I know we all have experienced some, some mobbing, for example, you know, like elementary school, middle school, you know, and overcoming that, you're not supposed to feel any hate. Some.

01;01;13;11 - 01;01;43;17
Unknown
If someone calls you, like, some words, you know, just know they're unhappy with themselves. You know, if you're if you are standing there, you know, unfazed by what they are saying, they hurt us because it don't work. So too, you don't let you get put down by anyone, because nobody should have the power to bring you down because you are supposed to go out.

01;01;43;20 - 01;02;03;07
Unknown
Yeah, bro. He left it. He left it on a high. No. He's like, yeah, I to say something I know have something to say. That's all I like. You sure. I mean, let me talk about it a little bit. So that's dope man. I'm I'm really glad you guys came, you know, and also shared, all this, that you're going through and your thoughts again, I think it's very important because you don't hear it that often.

01;02;03;09 - 01;02;18;15
Unknown
So even, you know, as I put this up, I'm telling you, people won't be like, wow, I feel inspired. Oh my God. Like, I feel I should be comfortable, I should be confident, I should know my worth. All these things. So, I mean, for real, guys, thank you very much. Very much. Appreciate your man. Yeah. Thank you man.

01;02;18;15 - 01;02;57;18
Unknown
Bro. Yeah. You too man. Hey. Come on guns, come on. Yeah, yeah. You got okay, bro. There you go. Yes, bro. There you go, man. The taboo there doing the things. Nah, man. It was also glad to be here, you know, just, to have a beautiful conversation about stuff and, Yeah, I think in general, people should know some stuff, you know, and, I think a lot of those viewers will also appreciate you having those guest guests here and, talking about stuff and topics because, at the end of the day, even conversation, conversation at itself, it could inspire people in general.

01;02;57;21 - 01;03;13;26
Unknown
It doesn't matter to any kind of subject. But so, yeah, I mean, I hope this will have you guys as well. And, even for us, it will be also an inspiration kind of way to think about those things again, you know? Yeah, yeah. And these are to fly as dudes to men. So definitely reach out to them.

01;03;13;26 - 01;03;30;11
Unknown
Yeah. For anything, you know. Yes, yes. Yeah. All right. But guys, thank you very much for being here. Oh thank you, thank you. I think it's time to eat. Ha ha ha ha. That's up to you. Okay, okay. All right. Cool. Hey, guys. Thank you for listening. And I'll watch. Take care. On the podcast. I'm your host, Nia.

01;03;30;12 - 01;03;34;14
Unknown
And yet often I see you guys in the next one. Peace. Peace.