
Third Culture Talk Podcast
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Third Culture Talk Podcast
Threads Coming Apart, Celebrities Acting Up, and Comedy Pain w/ Ludwig Benecke | Ep 83
Today I sit again with Ludwig Benecke. We talk about Kanye, the comedy landscape in Berlin and slowing down. We also delve into deep topics that leads nowhere
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Music: "Chill Day" by Lakey Inspired
00;00;00;00 - 00;00;27;11
Unknown
I'm not doing anything. And it's like so good. And they're like, yeah, we've all been doing that all the time. I don't know where were you? And I was like, I was at we work. I thought we were gonna grind it out. Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host Nya Yeanafehn. In this podcast, we talk with people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture is vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day.
00;00;27;13 - 00;00;48;06
Unknown
So let's begin today's episode, okay? And you know, this and this could be part of it, not part of it. What would you say? Okay. I just everybody's just, talking about random stuff. In the beginning, you had this red thread, and now it's just. By the way, it's just a thread that's unraveling. Yeah. It's like, hey, guys, welcome to the podcast where a thread is unraveling between two comedians.
00;00;48;09 - 00;01;07;16
Unknown
Hopefully you catch up and, don't leave after the 14 second mark. Just a straight hook. Like I said, the crazy. It's like, wait a minute, something trending, and then it keeps them on. So then, you know, and keep on unraveling. Yeah. What's happening in the pop culture? What's a good hook right now? Can you just get in?
00;01;07;19 - 00;01;25;27
Unknown
There you go Kanye Germany there. Know no black dude here. Hip hop is back. In all the ways you could be back. He's back and gone at the same back and gone. How what is it? I mean, I don't know what he's going through, but he just turned into an apparition. Like, right before our eyes. It's like, what is happening?
00;01;25;27 - 00;01;46;03
Unknown
He should go faster. Yeah, she should try a mile jog. Yeah. Kind of makes me so bad, yo. Because, like, yo. What? Why? Like, just like, sometimes things be like. Hey, man, look, you know, you had, like, a bad thing that happened last year. Yeah. You know, you you you don't you, you get getting back on the right foot, you know, maybe you made some apologies.
00;01;46;03 - 00;02;05;15
Unknown
Okay. That was some stone. Forgive you, but. And then he just within like no time just do things back to back to back to back and be like, yo, what the like, bro? How like, what are you trying to prove you? How bad can I behave before everybody's turning on me? Yeah I mean if and like bro, he just made $1 billion and then did that.
00;02;05;15 - 00;02;25;20
Unknown
It's like, what do you what is going on? Yeah. You lost money. You had to. Tyra. Before that, you used to apologize. Made money back then. You do this thing again, then use at the Grammys. Oscars, you know, which is now ex-wife just in a naked, basically naked. You know what? She was so naked, bro. I saw that, and I was not even aroused.
00;02;25;20 - 00;02;43;06
Unknown
I was like, I was like, oh, all right. That was almost like medical. Yeah. I was, you know, I was like, all right. Yeah, that's a woman. You know what's funny as a dude for like, it was so crazy that I was more concerned first, then turned on, you know, I'm. Yeah. Same. Yeah. I was kind of like, yo, that's math.
00;02;43;06 - 00;03;08;04
Unknown
Poor girl. Yo. Yeah. She. Something is not right here. Something. Listen, this is somebody starter I think. Yeah I think everybody I think everybody even who's like a little bit of, of a nasty character, even they will like, listen, Kanye, I mean, I see what you were trying to do here, but this is sickening to, like, let's get this woman some clothes.
00;03;08;04 - 00;03;29;21
Unknown
What are we doing? Yo, Kanye down bad? Yeah. This is so bad, guy. Anyway, we we we believe you. Yeah, we believe that you got a beautiful girlfriend. Don't. There's no need saying. All right? Okay, bro, that is like, even on Instagram and YouTube where all the comments, if something like that was a show of nines, how often do you know this guy's like, oh my God, she's so fine, I do this, Bob.
00;03;29;21 - 00;03;54;25
Unknown
Blah. All the comments or just concerns about her well-being and what he's doing. Like that was majority of the comments. I'm like, bro, this is bad. If if the Instagram comment section stops roasting you, it is genuinely concerned things. Things are about as bad as they can possibly be. Yeah. You know, if anything, that was a canary in the coal mine that was like that's like a sign of things to be very terrible at that point.
00;03;54;26 - 00;04;13;07
Unknown
If you're bringing, your wife at the time and she's very naked with like a just a sheet of, I don't know, toilet tissue paper, that's like, pay $1,000 and you know, everyone's all concerned rather than being turned on and be like, oh my God, you're so fine. It's not blah blah. It's like, all right. Yeah. You know, you listen, something's about to self-destruct here.
00;04;13;14 - 00;04;31;07
Unknown
Yeah. No, this is. Yeah, I love that. I love it when you. The Instagram has this new feature where they show you who liked it, which I think, first of all, I think that's terrible. I don't even like, you see a crazy video. And then you see, like, a famous person that you follow liked it. Yeah. Like Bill Burr liked the video.
00;04;31;09 - 00;04;46;28
Unknown
And then it's but it's like a crazy one. It's like, I can't show them here because you're going to get demonetized, but monetize. I don't even know where I'm speaking. Well, listen, you're definitely not going to get monetized that after. Yeah. There you go. Just keep it on trend. Yeah. It's like one of these is it. It's so funny.
00;04;46;28 - 00;05;08;09
Unknown
And you see like these crazy videos and then you see like 19,000 comments and you're like, oh yes, this will be a little crazy. Yeah. You go in there. It's just Instagram used to have something where you can see some nice activity like I think see what pages they viewed or who viewed a page or something. So even if you didn't like it, Instagram had a way to show if you was on somebody's page or somebody else's was on somebody's space.
00;05;08;09 - 00;05;27;18
Unknown
Oh yeah, that was a dangerous time, bro. You had to make sure your browsing history was clean for real. Yeah, yeah. That you couldn't even search and then delete. There was no searching. Yes. Like you could even be curious on Instagram. You're going to be like, oh, who's this? Like, do it to your Instagram. It's like, well, this is broadcast that you're interested here.
00;05;27;22 - 00;05;53;11
Unknown
Yeah. What you see. But I'm also I don't like the on Instagram all these like hot workout videos. I'm always like I'm not interested. Like yeah what am I trying to do here? I'm just just for no reason. I got asses in my feed. I'm like, no, thank you. No. And now my my whole feed is it looks like the most pro feed you've ever seen is just motivational quotes and cars, and I don't even know what I got on my Instagram and memes.
00;05;53;11 - 00;06;09;18
Unknown
A lot of memes. Your meme game on your stories, bro. Every time you seen I'm like, yo, you were deep in the meme. Yeah. Game bro. Yeah, it's, too much this way. I'm always, I always have to delete the app. Yeah, because I like my algorithm is so good. And so, like, I enjoy being on the app because it's so funny.
00;06;09;18 - 00;06;25;10
Unknown
Yeah, but I'm like, I got it. There's no way I can, like, try. Oh, you on TikTok? No, no. That's good, that's good. That's impossible. Like, Yeah, it's it's kind of like when they're like, don't swim here. Yeah. And I read the sign and everybody's in the water and they're like, dude, it's not that bad of a current.
00;06;25;10 - 00;06;44;11
Unknown
I'm like, I can't, I know myself and I'm going to be the first one to die in this water. So let me just not get in. So you get in the water, you step on a sea. Urgent. Yeah. Some some some stupid. Yeah. Just slip on. I'm not even in the water. I'm walking towards the net slip and then I have a concussion.
00;06;44;13 - 00;07;00;29
Unknown
Head you head on a rock. And in the recurring. Just go and just take you out into the high seas. That's a that's a big one as well. Like, like, dangerous places and dangerous beaches. That's a lot of my algorithm. Really? Yeah. No. One lady surfer somewhere. I did a little, like, on a holiday. Like nothing professional.
00;07;00;29 - 00;07;22;22
Unknown
Oh, sure, but nothing where I would need a rip current or, like, alert any. And like the depth and the the beaches. There's nothing where I would surf. It's just like. Do you want to know about the ten most dangerous beaches in the world? I'm like, I would love to know all of it. Yes, please. 12 minute video, I mean, but that's a good place to be at for your For You page should be recommended that it can get very nasty.
00;07;22;27 - 00;07;40;10
Unknown
Yeah. My for you pages is is I can't open it in public, you know. Yeah. Okay. It is a dangerous game. And it's not for the. It's not for the right reasons. Like, what I get recommended now is obscure animals and their handlers having a bonding connection. I. Yeah, it's so weird. Like, I just saw just something before you came here, bro.
00;07;40;10 - 00;07;55;14
Unknown
I was like, I don't know, pygmy hippopotamus like that. And like, his handler. And it was hugging each other or something. And then, like, you know, I did it like the baby hippopotamus is like trying to run around and attack them or something, not attack attacking or, like, playing around. I was just watching it, bro. I had to do.
00;07;55;16 - 00;08;15;21
Unknown
And the crazy thing is, you would think that that's a one. That's one video. But suddenly all of this stuff already is a genre. There's like hundreds, hundreds of these videos. You're like, yeah, how is this not one crazy person? Like, no, actually there's a 5000 people like that is crazy. Like, oh no, yeah, I watch I watched so many.
00;08;15;21 - 00;08;31;12
Unknown
Now I think hippopotamus are the safest animals on the planet. Which is a problem. Yeah. That's surely going to backfire once I go into a zoo. You know, if I put a hippo and I should just bite my body off, you know, from the face of the earth, it's not even. I'm not even a piece of my body.
00;08;31;12 - 00;08;51;04
Unknown
Just engulf me and just you just. They just, like, break you. There's. So have you seen the the videos where they throw, like a watermelon in their mouth? Yeah. Oh it's crazy. It's just like, it's so strong. It's so strong. Yeah. I don't know how you been, man. It's not from hippopotamus. Yeah. Instant spiral. It's just like third culture.
00;08;51;04 - 00;09;18;06
Unknown
Well, how about the craziest stuff you've ever heard of? Well, I've been I've been good, man. I'm, I'm trying to live more of a life. I don't know if, I'm really trying to prioritize going out outside of comedy shows, doing, taking a few days off. And, man, it's been so good, really. I mean, I've been I told people like that I'm taking a few days off and like, I talk to them about it like I discovered free time.
00;09;18;09 - 00;09;32;07
Unknown
I'm like, listen, guys, I've been doing this, this thing now, and you really got to get on with it because this is this is crazy. I'm not doing anything. And it's like, so good. And they're like, yeah, we've all been doing that all the time. I don't know, where were you? And I was like, I was at work.
00;09;32;07 - 00;09;50;24
Unknown
I thought we were gonna grind it out. Yeah, on a Sunday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now just you go for a coffee in the sun and you're like, whoa, I feel much better. Oh, you know, the sun can be enjoyed this way. The sun is actually not dangerous. Oh I like it. Oh my gosh. There's somewhat efficiency in this.
00;09;50;26 - 00;10;11;15
Unknown
Yes. Oh, man. This is. Yeah. This is my big thing is doing less. Yeah. And, that's pretty much it. I played at some, some German shows. I played, a really big German club in Munich for, Thursday and Friday. That was crazy. Do you know Lucky Punch? Yeah, I've heard about this, venue. It's,
00;10;11;17 - 00;10;32;25
Unknown
Have you played downstairs? I haven't, I haven't, I know it's upstairs and downstairs right now. The, the downstairs is the club in Felix little Bridge. Oh, okay. So the downstairs is, is a a longer, wider ish room. That fits 140. Wow. And is. But it's like, like a cellar. It's almost like the Comedy Cellar.
00;10;32;25 - 00;11;01;11
Unknown
Oh, sure. So it's it's really like low ceilings and the laughter rolls really nice. And lucky punch is also 140, but it's an old cinema. So the rolls are up. You're playing into, like, almost like an amphitheater. Yeah. And it's so insane because you're not used to playing up as a comedian, at least for me. I haven't played venues so big that you're playing up into the ranks.
00;11;01;14 - 00;11;23;02
Unknown
And yeah, that was crazy. Just having that feeling. You're in there and it's just the laughter just hits you. Yeah. And then right at you. Oh so nice. Like that was crazy nice, bro. That was just about yesterday. Something that was on Friday. Yeah, there's a Friday. And then I came back and then I played shows back to back to back here.
00;11;23;02 - 00;11;50;25
Unknown
Nice. And then today and then Monday I'm off. Yeah. You had a German scene horror bro. That's awesome. Yeah yeah yeah it's a the money is good there decent. And B it's, it is a lot of fun like I do get to ride in a different way. Like nice because you got to restructure the sentences. Your material works in a different way where you got to find new tags, new angles to make it funny at the end because the language is not the same.
00;11;50;27 - 00;12;08;01
Unknown
Right. Because you have like though even that verb structure even kind of like really. Damn that is what I mean. Your native language. So yeah. For example to really tweak it a bit maneuver. Yeah. Yeah. How about you. What have you been up to doing. Good. Just, you know, podcasting, the podcasting, the show, you know, for of comedy.
00;12;08;01 - 00;12;25;28
Unknown
Yeah. Also to performing a lot too. So I understand your position of like, always go, go, go. Yeah. In terms of, like, taking a break and stuff, I mean, that, you know, I mean, sometimes it happens. I it's not more of a thing that I should probably do the way you're doing it. But, yeah, I've been doing that.
00;12;26;00 - 00;12;46;06
Unknown
Also. So. Yeah, been been thinking about more of exploring Germany that is now something that's happening because like the content I do like of saying like, hey, American, European and stuff, right? Yeah. If, you know, Germany, right, that people are like, yay! So you should probably visit here, go to Brandenburg, go to Potsdam, go to this place.
00;12;46;06 - 00;13;06;17
Unknown
You know, I'm kind of like, yeah, sure. And people are like, yeah, but but for real and let us know. So is now starting to become like, oh, I gotta start exploring. You know, people are starting to kind of nudge a little bit more. I mean, it's great if they if they also show you around and give you like a real tour like that, as in terms of content is great because people would love that.
00;13;06;20 - 00;13;23;14
Unknown
Yeah, they I mean, if, you know, you know, your way around New York, if you would make a vlog just about this, those are the hot spots, but you don't even really know that those are the hot spots because you're so used to it. But if you would have to describe it to someone else, you would be like, all right, those work for you.
00;13;23;14 - 00;13;42;04
Unknown
Those are not really that great because you don't have the friend group that I have there. Right? But for like foreigners, this is the places to go. So if you have that for Germany, I could I could be huge. Yeah. I mean you got any spots that, you recommend in Germany here or around? I don't know, I don't know.
00;13;42;04 - 00;14;04;10
Unknown
I think Munich's nice. I like Hamburg, but I'm also like, I haven't really been to a lot of cities and explore them most of the time. You're just kind of there now for shows. And then you know how it is you get there. You have like two hours, you get to the hostel hotel friend apartment. You're like all right let me just chill, shower, show.
00;14;04;13 - 00;14;29;10
Unknown
Then you have some drinks afterwards and then you're back at the thing. Yeah. So I don't know I would say Munich is the best one in terms of like, nice, like nice sense of the city. If you go to the Lake of Constance, Lake of Constance. Okay, that's the south, the one that's so beautiful. It's just you have the lake and if there's like a clear day, you can see the mountain range in the in the very back.
00;14;29;10 - 00;14;47;16
Unknown
Oh. So that's. Yeah. My, my sister used to study there. Wow. And it's just for like one semester. And so it's it's crazy. Yeah. Beautiful. But I don't know. Do you ski. Nah I haven't and I've heard that a lot of accidents happened was. Yeah. Is that true. It depends. Like I, I've been skiing since I was very little.
00;14;47;23 - 00;15;04;29
Unknown
So from Switzerland. Yeah. Yeah. So that's like yeah. You know that's like you, you wake up in the morning just how about that how you get to school. So I just sliver slide and. No, that's I would definitely if I would try it. Yeah. One of the bunny slopes. Like nothing can really happen. My, my cousin, she.
00;15;05;05 - 00;15;26;03
Unknown
Oh, Jesus. She broke both of her wrists with trying to snowboard. First day of trying it. Just. I'm not sure if she broke them for real or just, like, almost broke them, but yeah, it definitely was like, I don't know what it's called. If you have these, like, other, something when it's just them, sometimes they're stiff bandaids.
00;15;26;03 - 00;15;43;24
Unknown
Yeah. What is it, is it, oh that that they think that they tape it to be able to hear something really holy? Yeah. Yeah. And you can't move it anymore, right. That was that was rough because she's like, I think she was like 60 and you can't wipe your ass. Oh. Yeah. Shit. Oh. Both arms. Yeah, yeah.
00;15;43;25 - 00;16;03;05
Unknown
Oh, so she had a holy shit in the whole time. You know, she had to, like, call the parents at, like, 16. Oh, imagine that. She. Whoa. Her whole diet probably changed. Yeah, I would just stop eating. Had no fiber. I don't know, like, what food would you eat to not be shitting? You're. I have no idea. But imagine you're like, you're 16.
00;16;03;05 - 00;16;20;21
Unknown
You're like mid puberty. Yeah. And now you gotta call your parents to wipe your ass. And you know, that could be the best time because a lot of foods actually constipated you. Right. So like, you know, soda, you know, cookies but you don't I don't think you shit yourself that much when you cookies or. Oh, right. Yeah, I don't really.
00;16;20;24 - 00;16;42;22
Unknown
I'm only referencing to a time where I had to go back, to, to Africa, West Africa, and, I had, well, my stomach was, it was working overtime. And you were on a strict cookie cookie diet. I wish I was, I was on a strict not shitting myself, in the car diet. So I was, you only had one car, and I was like, all right, come on, we gotta go.
00;16;42;22 - 00;16;58;04
Unknown
We gotta go to in a town. I'm like, yeah, I'll be right there. I'm just trying to do things not to shit in the car. Yeah. You literally you're timing it. You're like, all right, when I leave this toilet, I have 45 minutes till I need to be at the next toilet. How long is the car ride?
00;16;58;07 - 00;17;13;04
Unknown
How close to the departure? Do I need to go to the toilet to make it to the other one? The math in my head, I was just like, look, it could be a fart. It could be something else. The way I'm not finding out. We're not. We're not trusting. Yeah, we're not trusting. We're not trusting. This is fair enough.
00;17;13;05 - 00;17;29;27
Unknown
Yeah. So you know, but Coca Cola helps, you know, actually. So if you ever in that situation I was told Coca Cola and maybe some of the medication and those two really worked. Yeah. Cold tablets I heard those are the ones that one two. Yeah. And just straight like yeah Fritz Cola whatever that shit really like, you know.
00;17;29;29 - 00;17;48;03
Unknown
So fun fact for people who wants to travel to a country where your stomach might work overtime. Yeah, that's, I never ate it like that, but I would imagine that would help. Like, when I, when I go to cities where I know I have a show, the first one at like six or so, and I perform best on an empty stomach.
00;17;48;03 - 00;18;03;08
Unknown
Oh, nice. So it's like, all right, I can really eat. But the by the time you eat, it's like 12. So you need to eat a little bit. So what I usually eat is like a banana and do you know took the. Oh yeah. Yeah. The cheese like the cheese one. The regular ones. Yeah. The crackers. Yeah. Yeah man.
00;18;03;08 - 00;18;21;14
Unknown
You eat those and they're great because they have a lot of calories, but you're not super stuffed afterwards. But yeah, you're also you're solid. You're like you're not you're not using the toilet. You're locked in. You're ready. You're like your absolutely dialed in for the next 12 hours. So there you go. Probably your cousin or whatever. She had a whole bunch of took, crackers.
00;18;21;14 - 00;18;39;22
Unknown
I would have, I that would have been my diet. Just. Yeah, just a whole bunch of that. No vegetables, no nothing. Nothing healthy. Just all carbs and, highly refined carbohydrates, something like that. And it's so sad every time I tell, like, one of my friends, Rebecca, I told her like that. Oh, I always eat these. I really like them.
00;18;39;22 - 00;18;58;10
Unknown
And she's like, they're really bad for you because there's so much sodium and, like, fats. And I'm like, yeah, maybe that's why they're delicious. And she's like, yeah, exactly. That's don't eat them. Yeah. I'm like, well I gotta eat some. So I didn't realize I had that muscle. Yeah, it's so tricky how to do things with sodium now that you came and tasted like I could eat a whole pack of them things and.
00;18;58;11 - 00;19;18;00
Unknown
Yeah, it's delicious. Yeah. And they have so many calories. It's absolutely insane. Like one of these, like, bags is, I think a thousand or some a thousand like a hundred of like eight of these is like 100 calories. What it is, is when you get started. Yeah. Exactly. Eight is when you're like, all right, now, now I'm, I'm gearing up.
00;19;18;01 - 00;19;32;15
Unknown
Yeah. That's the appetizer. Yeah. But you could, you could feel how it just like sucks the, the water out of your body. You're like, if you don't have water, you just, you can't eat more than ten. And then you're like, all right, I got a oh, okay. So okay. So I actually I have a question for you.
00;19;32;15 - 00;19;53;29
Unknown
This is a comedian question or whatever in terms of you traveling. Can you travel a lot now to, you know, these comedy shows to train the busses sometimes six hours, four hours, whatever amount of time, what is like good. What is your diet that you like, adhere to when you like? You know, we got here. Some people have a way of making food or eating a certain way to survive the long train.
00;19;53;29 - 00;20;17;12
Unknown
Right? Yeah, man, for me, it's all talk. For me, it's all took talk. I have these cookies, and I love them. And they're so easy. This is what, like, I now have a new jacket with pretty deep pockets, which means I can just slide one of these packages in and you rip them open. Usually the package tiers wrap up until the half, right?
00;20;17;13 - 00;20;33;01
Unknown
So now you got to eat below the tier so you can just fold them together because they're not going to spill. Oh shit. But that's a big one for me because I also like I hate to be hungry on the trains. Yeah. So I eat usually the big breakfast and then have like a banana and some of these with me.
00;20;33;08 - 00;20;51;00
Unknown
So then at least you can have like a kind of fake meal there. I mean, if you're traveling longer than seven hours, I think you should prepare properly, but okay. On average, how long do you really. Yeah. Like you can have something. I feel like you're the best person to ask. I feel like your brain also looks at very specific things, like try to optimize it or something.
00;20;51;03 - 00;21;07;10
Unknown
So that's why I'm like really like yeah, very like okay, so what is the okay the package. All right. So what's the grams in terms of the package that you're carrying. And then the banana, how big is the banana. Yeah. Bottled water. If you're talking about a half liter, you know fully you know depends man I thought like for me train.
00;21;07;10 - 00;21;26;25
Unknown
Right. Usually a liter. It's much better because the air super dry. Right. I usually thought I going to just have like half a liter, but it's not enough. Like especially in like long distance trains. Right. You're going to get thirsty at some point. Yeah. If you're just drinking half a liter of water in seven hours, you're going to be like, yeah, that is wow, that is not enough.
00;21;26;29 - 00;21;52;22
Unknown
That's actually crazy. Now that you put it in that way. Yeah. So so it's usually for me big breakfast. And then that's the biggest change I made is usually like trains or flights midday. Oh my God it's midday. Oh it's only midday. I'm trying I'm happy to pay like €40 more because it's like you're losing more money if you're flying with a cheaper flight because nobody takes you to the airport.
00;21;52;27 - 00;22;10;12
Unknown
Right. If it's for 4 a.m. in Berlin, usually the trains don't really run unless you get like one of these early ones. I live at Osgoode, so that's fine because the the the fast train departs there. But if you're somewhere else in the city, you got to take a cab there. Fair enough. That's already going to be 30 bucks.
00;22;10;12 - 00;22;29;09
Unknown
And by that time you could have gotten to the other flight and you're in the city at like six, let's say eight. Yeah, you definitely need breakfast. So you need two more meals in the city. That's a good you end up spending way more money than just taking the casual 12 p.m. flight. Wow, that's a good point, man.
00;22;29;09 - 00;22;48;15
Unknown
And now I'm thinking about the some of the, flex busses that I have booked in air. Definitely in times where I'm like, I don't even know how I'm going to get there. But, you know, you look at the price where like, you know. Yeah, like what you think about like, flex busses or whatever. I love them same same same, they, they, you take, like, they're pretty much usually with flex busses.
00;22;48;15 - 00;23;05;10
Unknown
I do like to take the earlier ones because for me, Deutsche Osborne is great to work in. It's harder for me to sleep there. Flex busses I can just pass out. Oh, yeah. Very hard to work in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's too narrow. But the, the chairs, if you move them back, you get super comfortable to sleep in.
00;23;05;10 - 00;23;27;19
Unknown
So I like to get earlier flex busses to sleep and then I'm just in the city earlier. But if I'm awake anyways I prefer to just sleep in my bed and then leave the house and be conscious because you're not going to work in a train as well. If it's like too early. Yeah, right? Right, right. It's like this hungover feeling of like, not sleeping enough.
00;23;27;25 - 00;23;46;00
Unknown
Yeah, like I'm just drowsy all the time. All right. You just in vertigo. Just the train's moving to, you know, just going through a whole bunch of this, like, you know, foliage and all this, like that. And you just like, oh, I don't know what time it is, where I'm at, how close? Yeah, that's what I had now with Munich, because I left on Thursday and I came back Saturday afternoon.
00;23;46;02 - 00;24;01;01
Unknown
It somehow felt like it was already Sunday. Because my weekend kind of started with the Thursday because I kind of I was new city. I was like, oh, it's gonna be cool, all right. But yeah, that's when I was back. It was just like, why is everybody out? And it's like, oh, it's Saturday. Fuck. You're like, oh shit.
00;24;01;02 - 00;24;17;27
Unknown
Yeah, this is what people do. Regular people? Yeah. Regular people are out on a Saturday night ne'er do wells that, do comedy in, obscure places, obscure times. And then we went drinking. This is kind of a hung over episode for the both of us. There you go. Yes. You know, two beers, you know? Yes.
00;24;18;03 - 00;24;36;25
Unknown
To white wine. And I'm out. And this morning, I was. I stopped fighting, like, I. I stopped, like, trying to survive a hangover. Yeah, I'm just, like, straight. I go home and I'm like, I'm preparing a painkiller. I'm like, I'm. I'm not drinking so often that I'm like, oh, I might get addicted to this. Just like painkiller. Straight away.
00;24;36;25 - 00;24;55;16
Unknown
I'm like, I'm not even gonna attempt to, like, fight it. Did you eat anything after the wine, though? Did you eat anything? No, of course not. Oh, okay. Of course not. Just straight to bed. Because I was like, I'm tired. I'm just gonna. It's going to be enough. Nice. Raw. Yeah. Like an absolute amateur. No water. No no nothing.
00;24;55;16 - 00;25;13;11
Unknown
Just passed out. Yeah. And then you wake up and you like the first human and you're like, what? What's going on? Let me. That is tough, though. I don't know how people can do, like, actually, track their intake of alcohol and then, like, match it with water in the time of when they're drinking. Right? Because, like you, I don't know about you.
00;25;13;11 - 00;25;35;00
Unknown
I mean, but anybody. You having fun? Usually something is going on. So for me to disengage in the already good time and then drink water, you know, like, okay, this is my water intake. Half a liter before every, you know, liter of. Yeah, yeah. Usually it's not that good of a night if you're drinking water. Yeah. And look, if somebody pulls out water in a drink in a, in a drinking water in the middle of drinking, the party's over.
00;25;35;00 - 00;25;49;16
Unknown
Yeah. You're ruining it for everybody. I see a bottle of water come out during a time of drinking. I'm like, well, I guess the party's over. Yeah, yeah. Let me get out of here. I hate it as well. Unlike, I got to do it in secrecy, just like, yeah, a quick one. But even then, I don't know why.
00;25;49;16 - 00;26;04;03
Unknown
It's like that bottle of water is making me look bad. Yeah, it's like you're pulling out a salad in the middle of drinking. You're like, I just want to, like, be healthy. I'm like, this is not what we're doing right now. Please match the activity. Right as I'm eating like a very big don't do dinner, I'm like, well, you think you better than me?
00;26;04;03 - 00;26;20;22
Unknown
Yeah. Be pulling a salad. You think? What exactly? Trying to lose a couple pounds is I gain a couple of ways. You think? You think that's going to mean something in this world? Yeah, yeah. Suddenly everybody gets so existential, they're like, oh, I should be drinking water, too. I should probably should be doing my taxes tomorrow. It's like, why are we spiraling now?
00;26;20;22 - 00;26;39;08
Unknown
Can we please focus on. That's funny. The minute somebody pull out water is a is the minute I realize how many drinks in I I'm in. Yeah, yeah. You're like, oh I'm fucked up as well. It's like you pull out a bottle. What am I damn three drinks. All right. I've been going in and shit. Yeah, but, like, it's fun to like.
00;26;39;10 - 00;26;55;29
Unknown
Well, this is it sounds like I was like, oh, well, it's fun to drink. It's like. Yeah, well, you're an alcoholic, but it's a good time. You know, this package does not represent, the things that are said by the guests. Not. Yeah, exactly. Literally chose to say this. No, it's, I don't know. I think it's good, though.
00;26;55;29 - 00;27;15;00
Unknown
After after a good show to celebrate. Oh, yeah. Do something. Because otherwise it's like, especially like we were out in Munich and then we had some drinks afterwards in a bar close by. Nice. And it's like, what? Like, what are you going to do, go home and be like, wow, that was an amazing show. Good night. Then you're like, what it like?
00;27;15;00 - 00;27;30;23
Unknown
Because you have no social like human contact, right? You just with the homies at the show. And if you don't hang out after the show, well, you're back in your room. Yeah. So you won't be the odd person out because, you know, it's probably not just you and a one other person. You, that group of people. Yeah. Like, come on.
00;27;30;23 - 00;27;45;25
Unknown
I'm like, you know, you play, you know, because of course, you know, sleep and whatever's happening now. Yeah. Which you everyone knows. But it's like, you know what? Maybe this time is not going to happen, right? You know, you do it, you get hungover, it's like, well, this exactly the thing that I was, I was trying to avoid exactly happened.
00;27;45;26 - 00;28;00;22
Unknown
And much worse, usually because you haven't drank a lot the, the weeks coming up to this. So you're not even used to it. So it hits much harder I don't know. Yeah. So it's like, damn. That's what's up, man. And you had like the big, big car here in Munich. Like the beer there is a little different.
00;28;00;22 - 00;28;17;05
Unknown
Yeah. You can have the big ones. The mass. There's a one liter. No, but we just had cocktails. We had. Oh, nice. Like a cocktail bar. That was fun. Yeah, but the thing, like what we did today because of the hangover, this, wanted to get it is the. We went to a cafe. Me and Rebecca. She's a German comedian.
00;28;17;05 - 00;28;39;27
Unknown
Oh, nice. Also very funny. And we're kind of just riffing, talking. And we went to a cafe that's also, like in the lobby of a hotel. And they were preparing for the Berlinale. Oh, right. We didn't know the man that was that would look was so strange to be with these people, because it was all vloggers and the place looked so sterile.
00;28;39;27 - 00;28;57;01
Unknown
Yeah. And it was, it was so, like uncomfortable. We're just like, what is everybody doing here? Because they were all like preparing and editing and stuff, and I couldn't I can't even describe how it felt. You know, it felt like the second we were talking, the music stopped. The people looked at us like, what are you guys doing here?
00;28;57;01 - 00;29;11;05
Unknown
What are you doing here? Where's your ring light? And your, cell. Exactly. Walking in an empty hand. Yeah, yeah, I was like, I would like a coffee, you know? Like, why would you need it? The energy. You're not even. Why the. Why did he walk in with a camera? Not on him already. Yeah. Not filming right now.
00;29;11;05 - 00;29;26;09
Unknown
So I was at this place. He's really missing out on content. Walking through a door of a cafe at the bottom of, of a hotel. That was. But it was nice. It was right at the, at the river. That's pretty close to laughing. Sorry. Yeah, yeah. Like the, you know, the white building that kind of looks like Miami.
00;29;26;12 - 00;29;42;09
Unknown
I think so. Is it. There's a glow up like the hill a little bit. Exactly. Yeah. Up on top of the hill. And they have, like, a cafe on the first floor overlooking the water. It's actually really nice. Yeah. Nice, bro. But yeah, you know, some spots out here, man. Yeah. I'm trying because I only know, like one bar that I usually go to.
00;29;42;09 - 00;29;58;27
Unknown
The one I showed you. Oh yeah. That one. But I don't have like a second or third. There's another one right around there too. I went there I was there last night. So bro is is even better. It's like a nice vibe. It's not too clear, you know, unless you're spot as like classy. Yeah. In a in a good, not overly classy, but enough to be like, I you know.
00;29;59;04 - 00;30;14;27
Unknown
But this one is kind of like classy. It's probably the same price to be honest. Yeah. But like also it's like the vibes is that of like chill, you know, I mean okay I think I know is it the like an Italian restaurant. So the p I forgot the name of it. I just forgot the name of it.
00;30;14;27 - 00;30;34;05
Unknown
It was something that Brian, after the show, he was like, yo, come out. Let's grab some drinks. It's. Oh, fat. It's not. In fact, it's like a something pao.com on the other side. Oh, not that one. That one is that one is that one's like if you. That one's weird, actually. Yeah. Good. Because I don't even know how to put it.
00;30;34;05 - 00;30;48;14
Unknown
It feels like a party place to be in, but it's not. There's no party. Usually. That's where I was. Yes, it it is. It's like. It's like awkward party. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have all the graffiti on the walls. Hey, it's a hold on. Let me shout out to porn.com. I mean, you know, I'm just an American citizen.
00;30;48;14 - 00;31;14;13
Unknown
It's porn. It's not porn part. Yeah. Porn. Yeah. Uncomfortable for you to porn. Yeah. Yeah, when I'm mispronounced that shit. But, Yeah, yeah. It's always like, it feels like people are trying to party and and trying to make something happening, but I feel like it's just not usually. Yeah, it feels like people are trying to have something going, but it's just like there's some barrier.
00;31;14;16 - 00;31;35;16
Unknown
Yeah, every part of it, I don't know. They're like almost there. Yeah, almost a party but not quite. Not enough people, the wrong people. But yes I'm always afraid to like go out around Z bar because I'm always like, there's some comedians lingering in any bar around here. Like, I'm not going to Z bar if I'm like, oh, let me just have a couple of drinks with friend.
00;31;35;16 - 00;31;59;04
Unknown
Well, maybe then, but for example, a date. I would never bring a date to Z bar because it's like the A the bar staff knows you be. There's probably a show going on the probability of somebody hanging. Yeah. You don't want to be like, that's the worst. Yeah. And then, you know, there's a whole interaction. Sometimes you're like, yeah, I don't want you to meet my friends yet.
00;31;59;06 - 00;32;20;15
Unknown
They're insane. So, by proximity. This is not going to work. Yeah. What do you give her some time exactly like this. And, we're getting married and then give it a couple of years, and then you're going to meet a select few of the people I work with, and not all of them. You will never meet all of them, because even I wouldn't want to meet all of them.
00;32;20;18 - 00;32;38;08
Unknown
I know too much. Be like, I want to meet your friends and respect my boundaries. Jay, for the sake of this relationship, listen, you don't know what you're asking for, right? You don't. You don't know. Those are not. Those are not humans we're talking about. I really want to meet your friends. I think this is not working out.
00;32;38;10 - 00;32;57;06
Unknown
We need some space. I think we need a break up. I don't know, I don't know how you think this is going to go, but you're pushing it like. But don't you have any friends? I think it's me and not you. I don't have a friend. I have acquaintances, and most of these wouldn't make the background check to meet you.
00;32;57;08 - 00;33;13;19
Unknown
You just. So you just you just around here just by yourself? No friends. My dad never love. Why don't we talk about my dad again? Why can't we? Can't we please just go back to my dad? I don't want to. We're talking about my friends. I have a I have a friend. Maybe you have a friend or something.
00;33;13;20 - 00;33;32;07
Unknown
I don't I can't afford therapy. You know, you revealing all these things that are just weird stuff. I really got into tennis recently and she's like, please stay on topic. No I don't. Are you playing alone? Yeah. Please. I don't, I'm just me in a wall. Yeah, just a minor. Just a straight wall and me just hitting a ball against.
00;33;32;07 - 00;33;48;24
Unknown
I don't even have a racket. I'm just hitting it with my hand. Yeah. Just like street. What is it? Handball or. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, yeah, just hitting it, you know. What is that? The one that goes around the pole? Oh, no. That's, I forgot the name of that, but that is something else. So wiffle ball?
00;33;48;24 - 00;34;03;29
Unknown
Nah. Not wiffle. It's like. Oh, okay. It has a chain on the ball. Yeah, exactly. Right. You gotta keep on hitting it. And if you miss it, it goes around. Exactly. And yeah, I don't you handball handball. That one's like, bro, if you go out to New York and see how people play handball, that is not a joke.
00;34;03;29 - 00;34;23;04
Unknown
Like people got goggles sometime with the headband. They really in it with the shorts. And just like, you know, that's a small one with the, like, grease on it. That's grease. The glue. Glue. Now what what handball is, What do you mean, volleyball or not? Volleyball. Volleyball is, you got you're going. I think you can use your hands, right?
00;34;23;04 - 00;34;39;14
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That. Yeah. The the the forearm or the hand or something. But handball is, is like straight like the actual, like lacrosse either lacrosse ball. Like something like a tennis ball. You're like literally hitting it with your hand and you force to hit it. And then you I think the other person got a hit. I don't know how to play the game.
00;34;39;14 - 00;34;58;23
Unknown
I just know that it's like always fast pace, okay. But it's like a like a table tennis or like a bigger almost like that. But it's like a wall. And then you just basically got to hit that like, it's a wall. So like, you got, things like this in, in the parks in New York City where there's like a wall and just have, like, a divider and like, is solely used for.
00;34;58;25 - 00;35;13;18
Unknown
Okay, or playing by yourself. You know, when your girlfriend's asking you too much about friends. Yeah. And, you know, you need boundaries. You know, like, I gotta go to the park again. Yeah. Alone. And you get to get this out of my system. Yeah, right. You hitting the ball against the wall you like? I don't think she's the one people ask me.
00;35;13;18 - 00;35;33;09
Unknown
All my friends in nuts. When would you let, your girl meet your comedian friends? Damn. I don't know. I think it would just have to happen organically, but it wouldn't be like a directive that I will, like, try to push for, like. All right, I need to make sure. No. Yeah. And, you know, if it happens after a show, so be it.
00;35;33;09 - 00;35;52;29
Unknown
But, yeah, there's not going to be a gathering. No, it's not going to be a big introduction. No, no introduction. You just have to be like well it's happening. Well you you saw now get back you animals. No more talking. And they start hissing all of a sudden your friend. Yeah. Yeah. Hello. She nice. Yeah. Like no no no no no no.
00;35;52;29 - 00;36;13;06
Unknown
Why. I have a conspiracy to tell you. No. Okay. You hear. You want to hear my 911 material? Get back, get back. Well, me and your girl, we talked a lot about 911. You're like, well, that was the end of that relationship. Great. She cares about the environment. Leave. She's a real human. She has friends. Look at me.
00;36;13;08 - 00;36;40;21
Unknown
She's not like us. Yeah, she is. But she could. She could be, though, like, No. Get back, get back. I mean, you have to happen organically. Is happened before, you know. Yeah, I mean clearly. But I will say here it may fair better because at least like some of the shows and or mix are usually filled with people and not just comedians.
00;36;40;21 - 00;36;55;28
Unknown
Oh yeah. Oh you can bring it to one of those. No. I mean, yeah. Because in back in New York, bro, I don't like. While star announced stuff like a mic, it was just it was depressing. Yeah. It was to the point where somebody who was in community came in up like, yo, what are you don't like on the mic as you're up on stage?
00;36;55;28 - 00;37;11;00
Unknown
What are you doing here? But yo, yo stop. Like stop asking what they doing it. Hey, you're not supposed to be here. You guys are not real. People might go, why are you why are you telling these people that are not real people? They're clearly not going to say. But it was just a shot. Yeah. So I would never bring any girl damn day into a mic.
00;37;11;00 - 00;37;31;27
Unknown
Oh my one, I have 1 or 2 to ask. Like, can I come to your mic? Look, don't you love yourself? Why would you ask me that? Yeah, it's something you don't know. Like, I see this with, German audiences a lot. They don't know what an open mic is. They think because you're buying a ticket or even just free reservation, you're like, oh, it's a show.
00;37;31;29 - 00;37;46;10
Unknown
Yeah. And then people are like, oh, who's been in an open mic and two people raise their hands, and then whoop! Like, who knows what an open mic is like one person, right? And you're like, well, you guys are in for a rough night because I mean bro. Yeah. I mean, how can you explain somebody open my glaive.
00;37;46;10 - 00;38;03;00
Unknown
You explain to somebody regular then doesn't know about an open mic, what a comedy open mic is. They're going to recommend you to an authority. Authority to, like, take you out or something going on. Like what? What? So this is what you guys do? You. You're actually spending time for this, and I'm like, yeah, this is what I'm doing to play.
00;38;03;03 - 00;38;21;02
Unknown
Well, now I got to report you. Now I have to, you know, report you to some authority because this crazy thing is in theory, it sounds good in theory, sounds like a fun place where, like, a lot of people are testing new material. Yeah. You're like, all right, well, I get to see some new jokes. It's like you don't understand.
00;38;21;04 - 00;38;42;26
Unknown
It's a lot of ideas. Most of them are going to just crash and burn. And then one out of these seven minute ideas is going to make it into the next stage, and then we'll iterate from there. But the problem is it's going to be ten people that do that. So in theory you'll hear seven good ideas or like 1010 good ideas, one from each.
00;38;42;29 - 00;39;08;03
Unknown
And you're like, this was a horrible experience. It's like burritos principle were inverse, right? Yeah. Hey, 20% is good, but 80% is horrible. So it's just like a bad. It's. Yeah. Nobody has fun. It's like I wouldn't be there if I wasn't doing this. I'm always surprised. Right? When people, like showing up to open mics, I'm like, you're either the most crazy about comedy that I've ever met, or you've been tricked.
00;39;08;05 - 00;39;28;04
Unknown
You've been betrayed? Yeah. You're going to. This flier has betrayed you. Yeah, it had too much good, graphics on it. Yeah, yeah. Open mic, flier. It needs to be, not to produce. There you go. And you should. Yeah, exactly. And that should. That should be what it's like. That's what it should be like, right? You get a flier and you're like, that looks a bit sketchy.
00;39;28;04 - 00;39;43;24
Unknown
And then you go and it's terrible. And you're like, oh, that makes so much sense. That is exactly the production quality of the flier. So, oh, so open mic flier. You should, you should, you should put like bad graphics on it. You should print it out, throw in the garbage, take it back out of the garbage and then put it on the wall.
00;39;43;24 - 00;40;00;14
Unknown
I'm like, well this is what's happening. And then hand it to people. Yeah, like almost like, can you throw it away please? Yeah. And then like, what is this? And I'm like, well, you've been invited now just have a half eaten apple and. Yeah, like like a gum. So, what, put it on the wall. We use gum just to let it be known.
00;40;00;14 - 00;40;18;22
Unknown
This is what to expect to be upfront about it. Yeah, that's what we're not charging. Yeah. It's like, listen, we're all very. We need the money. But this is so bad that even we can't charge you for it. This is all bad. Like. Yeah, but I mean, that is difficult though for a person because Omigod, bless anyone who runs an open mic, man.
00;40;18;22 - 00;40;41;05
Unknown
Even out here in New York. I mean, bro like that. That deserves compensation just based on the actual stress it puts on your brain of seeing that to be there. Because let's be serious, if you producing a, open mic or something, no matter where you are in the world, right? Yeah. You become the target for an acceptance of a joke, whether it be good or bad.
00;40;41;08 - 00;40;59;00
Unknown
I see. I see somebody say something crazy on stage. They're going to look at the nearest person. I see the producers. I'm like, what do you think? Or something? And then you have to deal with that mentally of like, oh my God. And then, you know, you got people there. And so it's your face is on a poster like, hey, I'm here.
00;40;59;00 - 00;41;18;21
Unknown
So it's all being attributed to you. You're like, you're causing this. You're you're causing this hell that's happening in this bar. The bartender's looking at you like, well, no one's even buying beers. Yes. Traumatized. What is happening? They thought like, why? Why don't we put music over mugs and people can keep drink? We're like, no, we like to keep it for two drinks per person.
00;41;18;24 - 00;41;44;15
Unknown
People have said half the people leave after the break. No, like the the mental stress of hosting an open mic is incomparable to a showcase. Because showcase, you're like, set the timer, you go to the bar, you relax and then you go back on. But with the with the open mic, if you want to reset the room to where the next person can actually try, he's just constantly lifting them out of misery.
00;41;44;19 - 00;41;57;16
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's basically, hard labor basically, when we think about it, you know, you gotta make sure you pick it up, right? You know, gotta make sure you're using your legs or you pick it up, you know, the whatever happened in the room and pick it back up, right? Yeah. You know, you do a bad posture, man.
00;41;57;16 - 00;42;17;01
Unknown
You can't just snap something and you like, you're watching it. You're watching the open mic like the you've seen these jokes. Yeah. And you're like, this is just all horrible, right? Will we ever be funny? Why do we do it like, you spiral by like second half. You're like, I think I gotta apply for jobs again. This is this.
00;42;17;02 - 00;42;32;07
Unknown
This is not meant for any other. Like, this is crazy. Wow. I mean, any of your name is attributed to it. So it also makes it like, you know, unless you have a nickname or something, but your face is still on. Yeah. And people call them like people like you. They come to the show, they think, oh, is your soul awesome?
00;42;32;14 - 00;42;52;16
Unknown
So then they're like, why are you hosting today? And look, well, this is actually an open mic. And they're like, oh no. And you're like, well, it's going to be much worse. Yeah. And we do this every Friday. Why what what what this happens again, there are people showing up next Friday where where is every. That's the best question with the like who's been here before?
00;42;52;18 - 00;43;12;17
Unknown
Nobody raises their hand. This is the first red flag. It's like, yeah, well, where is everybody? Yeah. They're gone. They come. They won't come back. Yeah. It's just yeah. This is difficult to tell, right? Yeah. It's just no recurring audience. She's just see you have a reoccurring event of a bomb. So we're in the room and she's like, what?
00;43;12;24 - 00;43;31;02
Unknown
What? Oh, this is, this is an act of war. Like, what is going on so bad, so bad. And everybody's like, oh, yeah. It was like, how how often does this happen? Yeah, you're like weekly. And they're like, whoa. All right. So this happens weekly. Oh my God, I need a move. Yeah. This might actually affect me. How is this legal?
00;43;31;02 - 00;43;50;11
Unknown
Wow. This is like a atomic bomb out here. I need to leave this. The fallout might actually effect me. It's going to pass the bar. I've become depressed. I was when I was in Munich that. That was like a full circle moment. I had one of my first open mics there in German, with a one of the guys who ran another show that I could just do a drop in spot.
00;43;50;12 - 00;44;10;26
Unknown
Nice. And there was another guy at the show and after his set, and I think my set as well, he came up to me. He's like, I was in Berlin like 2 or 3 years ago. Where are you running an open mic? I'm like, yeah, I did. And he was like, was it at the was it Valentine's Jubilee year run a lot of shows there.
00;44;10;29 - 00;44;32;23
Unknown
And he was like you were doing. And I was just so now host and especially like you were doing 20 minutes with only a father and his two daughters in the audience. He was like, I, I still remember this. Like I'm still shocked by the memory of it and I completely forgot about it. I also, you know, good reason about it.
00;44;32;28 - 00;44;52;27
Unknown
Yeah. You have these, you have these mice and you're you're somehow hoping, like, I hope there's no witnesses. I hope everybody forgot. And then you have, like, this blast from the past or something like. Yeah. No, no I remember and you're like, oh no. Oh great. I laughed so hard because I like those shows were rough. That was New York level open mic.
00;44;52;27 - 00;45;18;01
Unknown
I think just because people it's mostly comics and the people that are there, they barely speak English. And nobody's making money. Yeah. I mean I think on a good night I made 50 bucks. Right. And I used to pay people back then to me like 25 some. Yeah. And I guess that's also makes it even more difficult especially here because like there's a there's a chance, an opportunity to make money.
00;45;18;01 - 00;45;40;04
Unknown
So there's probably there's definitely expectation to make money. You had that coupled with all the other factors that doesn't lend itself to it. It becomes like a mental weight. Yeah. You know because at least in in the state, well, let me say in New York City specifically, because in the South you can actually, you know, just a little bit more like it's better or something is that you don't get you're not there's no payment there.
00;45;40;04 - 00;46;04;06
Unknown
If anything, you you're incurring and cost if you're doing the mic by if you're running a mic. Yeah. I mean a payment is like oh what. Like are you. It's almost like a shock. Yeah. So at least there's like a I mean it's not the best but it's just everything is level. There's no expectations is like this is only for jokes and you're incurring the cost of, mentally, spiritually and definitely financially because you to pay $5 and a drink, right?
00;46;04;12 - 00;46;21;00
Unknown
Do you get it? You just getting screwed in three different ways. But at least here it's like I there's, you know, there's money, there's a space station. So there's like a little weird dance. You braylee. I want to try our jokes and make money. It's like, well, oh. And entertainment, people don't get paid to try. Really?
00;46;21;01 - 00;46;35;06
Unknown
Yeah, exactly. It's like I want to make money. I would like to try new jokes. And I would also like to make some clips out of this. And you're like, yeah, well, this is not I don't know how you think this is going to work, but you should pay me. I'm trying. Well try better. Yeah, yeah. Try harder.
00;46;35;09 - 00;46;54;08
Unknown
You know what may be good? No, it's it's. Yeah. Oh, no. And it's dangerous route. Like, if you start to make money that way. And I think most people have fallen into it is you run a show and you kind of like, lie to yourself and think that hosting is the same as doing standup just because you're on stage with a mic.
00;46;54;08 - 00;47;21;09
Unknown
But it's very different. Yeah. And then if you just run a lot of shows and you make your money hosting and then you think like, oh, I do try new jokes in between. So like, yeah, but you're not trying them in a real way because you're diluting them through hosting. So I think you're writing suffers. I mean if you managed to quit your job earlier, I picked like I chose a job over hosting because I was like, this is not going to advance my writing in any way.
00;47;21;11 - 00;47;47;05
Unknown
Because you're. Yeah, you're just talking to people. You're setting up the room. If you're doing it properly and it's not for you, really. You're just setting it up for others. That's true. But yeah. Yeah, it's a it's an interesting dance to make, man. It's like, and that dance is like very tough to nail, not even nail it, but just get the steps right to make sure one part of the dance is good, i.e. hosting and the other side, i.e. material, you know.
00;47;47;05 - 00;48;07;03
Unknown
Yeah. And yeah, it's a yeah. Because it definitely doesn't a short circuit. The whole thing of having to get up on stage. Yeah. And like get up on stage and in an aspect of like art. Yeah. Host hosting has its own muscle. But then most importantly is that to your point of doing like a set. Yeah. You know, void of it being your own thing.
00;48;07;03 - 00;48;20;27
Unknown
People know you, your host. Host has a, you know, I mean, I think I don't know if you ever done it before, but more of a difference when you're doing like your solo and you have like a host and you have like an opener or something and then you do your hour rather than it use doing the raw hour by yourself.
00;48;20;27 - 00;48;44;02
Unknown
Wow. So different. So different. Bro. Yeah, it's I tried it twice just with the I'm hosting. I get an opener and then I do my hour and I've done it without that. And it's so much easier to be an act if you didn't host before. Oh my God. Because you just they like the room set up and you're like, obviously just the guy who's going to do jokes.
00;48;44;02 - 00;49;04;28
Unknown
Yeah, but if you're setting up the room as well, it's almost not worth it in terms of the money. Like, oh, you okay? You save 50 bucks for your or like 25 for your opener. Yeah. And the host. But it's it's such a different hour. That's different bro. Heavy lifting. Very heavy lifting. Definitely try that a few times with just a raw hour and just be like ha.
00;49;05;01 - 00;49;28;23
Unknown
Yeah. Well you know, because if you have the if, if you're hosting and the hosting doesn't go well, you're screwed because now they kind of don't like you. And now you're like, well we're doing the hour anyways. Like, here we go. That's the crazy thing. That's oh yes, that happened with my last hour. Oh, you did it by yourself.
00;49;28;25 - 00;49;46;28
Unknown
No. I had, know as an opener, but yeah, I was hosting and then he came on and then I did the oh, I did that one is also different. That was, that might be worse, actually, because, like, it's like a weird because you're, you're starting out with the people of you hosting and you come back being like, oh, I don't want to talk to you guys.
00;49;46;28 - 00;50;03;09
Unknown
No worries. Actually, about me. No way. Yeah. They're like, what do you. Yeah, you got to set it up in a whole, whole different way. Yeah. Let's get it for this. Yeah. Let's give it up for me for an hour and, have a conversation where I'm talking to you and you're shut up. Remember earlier when we all had fun?
00;50;03;09 - 00;50;22;09
Unknown
Yeah. That's over. Yeah. Know your name? Don't give a fuck. Yeah. You better hear the name of my ex or whatever. And a story about her. You might have a name of my, father, you know. Yeah, but the big guys, I think nobody's hosting the. Well, there's not even a host. Really? It's just opening feature, so. Definitely.
00;50;22;11 - 00;50;43;22
Unknown
And I think that's good. I think that's, that sets up the room in a way where it's like, people instantly know I'm here to listen. Yeah. The whole hosting of, like, where are you from? Nobody cares. Like, we're all asking, but deep down, oh, you're also in the camp. That's crazy. It's not really, statistically, no one is not one.
00;50;43;23 - 00;51;02;29
Unknown
One of us was an accountant in here, and it's you and. Well, how did you get in that? Well, you wanted money. Fair enough. That's, how we do that. Statistically fascinate. Yeah, exactly. You're such as average. That is. Yeah. That's a that's literally the median of this whole room is. Oh, you're a software engineer. That's crazy. So average.
00;51;02;29 - 00;51;19;10
Unknown
Wow. Yeah. And the funny thing is we're all hating on it now. And you see me hosting the next time, and I'm like, where are you from? Yeah. What? Yeah. You're a project manager. Oh my God. What? What's your favorite project? Did it, it did it. Did you work for Zalando. Oh my God. You know. Yeah. Those are the basic.
00;51;19;10 - 00;51;38;19
Unknown
This so crazy. That big corporation that hires a lot of people worldwide. Oh my God what. That's in the middle of like free design and where we are currently. So I mean what are the chances. Pretty high. Pretty high. Oh it's like wow, you wrote a resume that was accepted, you know, via robo. Yeah. Recruiting. And then you made it through.
00;51;38;21 - 00;52;00;13
Unknown
No, it's it's, it's wild. I had one more thing, I think that I wrote about Munich. I like this efficiency. Come on now, I come prepared. Now. You definitely come prepared, man. Yeah, and that's the thing in the in the hotel where we were so sterile, there was, hotel sterile, sterilized. None of that was so sterile.
00;52;00;14 - 00;52;23;20
Unknown
Oh, look at this area. Interior design with all the influencers and stuff. There was. Do you know the, Lola Young now? So she's, the one is like. Well, I'm so messy. That's her. Yeah, yeah, she was sitting in the lobby. What? Yeah. That's when we were like, we walked outside and then Rebecca was like, I was all young.
00;52;23;22 - 00;52;41;29
Unknown
I was like, what? She was like, do you know the song? I'm like, of course. I literally edited it just like a couple of days ago because I was like, that's nice. Yeah. And she was like, yes, I'm in the lobby. And I was like, all right. This is like a proper in the hotel. Hotel. Wow. And it was just funny because, you know, when you, you're thinking of like, what does this like fame mean?
00;52;41;29 - 00;52;58;27
Unknown
What does that mean? If you think that fame is going to solve any of your problems, you're like, so wrong. Because, yeah, we just talked about it right after she was sitting in the lobby and just by herself, and we liked her. And even we were like, going to go back and be like, hey, we love your stuff.
00;52;58;27 - 00;53;18;10
Unknown
We're like, well, that's her. Yeah. Anyways, so I just moving past the fact that we were all past, we're like, all right, exactly right. Nobody cares. That's the big I think. Let me pay for her situation. Great. Are you sick, bro? The other side of fame, bro. Yeah. When everybody's like yeah, yeah, yeah. It's people. The way people respond to fame is like.
00;53;18;10 - 00;53;31;29
Unknown
I mean, you ever saw a thing with Justin Bieber where like basically there's like a crowd of people that was in front of his home in New York or something. He's trying to get in. And I remember like, he, you know, he's a little tired, disheveled, like, you know, he's five and flying like half across the continent, like 20 times in a day.
00;53;31;29 - 00;53;45;12
Unknown
Right? So he's coming back and I want to let this girl or his, whatever she's like. So. Yeah. Can you please, for my, whatever the phone. And then he was like, he's like, you can tell she's like, really in his face. And he's like, please get into my office. Can you get him off so you can sign him?
00;53;45;12 - 00;54;01;17
Unknown
Keys on a first? And he's like, look, I understand like what you're trying to understand why? Like it's not our sign. He's like, don't worry, I will sign. I'm just like you. I'm just asking you. I'm trying to get to my home. I'm. I'm very tired. I got this. He's like, we try to explain it. You can just see our eyes just being like, yeah, but yeah, keep listening to it.
00;54;01;20 - 00;54;23;09
Unknown
I was just like, goddamn, this. Do you? It was like a heartfelt moment, but she was just like, yeah, but you're famous, though. You're not a person. You're doing abstract. She. Yeah, exactly. It's just it's not about you anymore, all right? You're a thing to be seen with. You're you're an attraction. You're literally like a circus animal, right?
00;54;23;10 - 00;54;40;21
Unknown
It's like, I don't care about what you eat or what you need. I need to be seen with you. That's all I need. Yeah. You're a representation of what I want in life. You're not even a person. You just, you know, a template or a representation or something. Yeah. You helped me rise in the social hierarchy. I'm more interesting by being around you.
00;54;40;27 - 00;55;02;29
Unknown
I don't care about you. It's the idea of you. Right? The idea of being with you. I don't know, we would rather have that. Some people just, like, you know, they just like, you know, like, I've seen people that, like, I starstruck, like, immediately. And I'm just like, oh, that's how it happens. Like regular conversation. As soon as the person is in those present, I'm like, what?
00;55;02;29 - 00;55;17;13
Unknown
I don't even know you can do that. I don't even know. Like just because they realized the other person was famous or. Yeah, I'm talking about like once I was walking and, you know, it was me and some other comedians are like that, and, I mean, this guy and his girl or whatever, and we walk in and, this and Z's and.
00;55;17;13 - 00;55;31;23
Unknown
Sorry, walking behind us is like years back. And now we look back was like, oh, I think I said, these are sorry. And he's like, you know, me, my friend who said, oh, and then when the girl that was with us like, she turn around, she's like, say like, oh, oh, but I never seen her act that way.
00;55;31;23 - 00;55;47;02
Unknown
But like, I when he's just like, he's like, hey guys, are you guys? It was like, hey, is I, I don't know. And she's like, oh, like she couldn't speak. I was like, oh you. That's interesting. But I mean, literally was having a converse, a deep conversation. So she knows, like I said, oh my God, oh my God.
00;55;47;02 - 00;56;13;26
Unknown
It's in the season. Sorry. Oh my God. What are you like? I was like, oh shit. Yo yo. It was like, yo, you good? Like what was, yes. It's weird, I don't know. Yeah, but I mean, it's, I mean, I it's a sneaky. I mean, I, you know, when you playing shows with, like, big comedians and you like, you kind of don't want to ask for a picture, but you also kind of want to ask, like, you know, they're they're kind of your heroes, but you're like, oh, yeah.
00;56;13;28 - 00;56;32;15
Unknown
Like, well, and it's so crazy because they are there's most of the really like the bigger ones that at least I talk to. They are so cool. They're so human and they're they're almost weirded out that you ask for a picture. Not because they're they won't give it to you, but they're like, but you do the same thing.
00;56;32;17 - 00;56;49;06
Unknown
They're like, you're a colleague. Like you're also a comic. Yeah. What? Are you sure we can take a picture, but like, you also tell jokes like this is. Yeah, we're in the same line of work. Almost breaks like a weird. It almost breaks the fourth wall. There's some weird. Yeah, right. There's like. All right, everything's cool with nice doing comedy.
00;56;49;06 - 00;57;08;15
Unknown
Something's like catching a picture. It's like, wow, now we're not colleagues anymore. Exactly. Suddenly it's like, from here to poop. No, I can't, I no longer talk to you like the homie that I thought we were, right. Like this. Suddenly it's this. You feel like you're getting something out of this other person. Yeah. So it's like a. Yeah, it's like.
00;57;08;15 - 00;57;24;15
Unknown
Wow. All right. Well, yeah. Yeah. This it comes, you know, now, now it becomes like a fan and the exact star relation, you know. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's it's it's weird instead of it being like a regular whatever. Like a hang like a hang after a big show, it's like. Oh yeah. What are you up to later? Oh, yeah.
00;57;24;15 - 00;57;39;12
Unknown
Party. Fair enough. Let's go. Maybe to have a drink. And now suddenly it's like, oh, my God, if I'm going to be here, it's like, oh yeah, yeah, it's weird, like, how do I make it? But I by. Yeah. I mean, what do you mean what is making it? It's like, make it. I don't even know how I got here.
00;57;39;14 - 00;57;56;24
Unknown
Yeah. It's kind of like there's a whatever are you doing? You keep doing it for 20 years and you're probably going to be somewhere within that. And then so it's more about how do I not quit or kill myself on the way there. Yeah, I think that's a much bigger question of how do I make it is like, don't die.
00;57;56;29 - 00;58;18;07
Unknown
Oh, I don't know. Don't listen. Quit eating talks as a part of your diet and you're almost halfway there. You know, that's a I need definitely try that out though. That took I ain't gonna lie, bro. You you told me that, that's why I'm going to use their great man. Yeah, absolutely. They're light as well. They're dry.
00;58;18;10 - 00;58;34;27
Unknown
Which means even if something goes wrong and they spill in your pocket, it's all just breadcrumbs. So they just. You kind of just, like, turn over your jacket and they fall. It's okay. So tuck in a banana. And that's what you carry with you. Yeah. Let's eat a big breakfast before going. That's that's my I'm definitely like that.
00;58;34;27 - 00;58;56;06
Unknown
And a water and you're golden. Like you can go anywhere. You're at least not like once you're at the point where you're really hungry, you eat all that and you got another four hours just now. Okay. So you make sure you get right to the edge of hunger and then like, or in the midst of hunger, then you eat that stuff with the banana, put you back up to even level.
00;58;56;12 - 00;59;14;15
Unknown
Yeah. Do you get shows and stuff in post show as well? You go out crazy, eat whatever you do. But it's not. It's not like I'm waiting to time it in a specific way. It's just when I'm hungry, I'm like, all right, I eat a little bit. Yeah. Don't eat the whole pack though. If you if you eat it, if you eat a thousand calories of carbs, you're going to crash.
00;59;14;15 - 00;59;36;26
Unknown
Most likely. So this is not good. You eat this. And the sugar of the banana. This is like, it's a delicate balance of, Okay. Like a healthy hunger that you're you're still alert, but you're not, like, so distracted by it that you can't focus anymore. So. So one pack, two bananas or one banana or two bananas, maybe one half pack on the way.
00;59;36;26 - 00;59;55;29
Unknown
Go have pack on the way back. Yeah, something like that. You'll figure it out. You'll find. You're right. You're also more Jack. You burn more calories than me. I'm very I'm very lean at the moment. I mean, that's what I realized. Like, I burn so many calories just walking that I'm like, I gotta when I'm bulking, I eat so much that I'm just.
00;59;56;01 - 01;00;14;26
Unknown
I'm losing the funny. You, you just are holding the mic. Just, you know, like, wow, he looks skinny, but then ripped at the same time. What's going on? Yeah. And say I'm. If I'm bulking, I'm just dizzy. I'm having so much. Yeah. I'm I can't focus. Oh, this is interesting. Yeah, because I'm constantly digesting. I'm just.
01;00;14;26 - 01;00;30;27
Unknown
I have to eat so much. Right. What was that? All right. Yeah. This is lecture. That was a reflection. It looked like something went off. Or maybe just somebody close the corridor. All right. Cool that you didn't see that. I was like, I ain't gonna lie, bro. A piece of the back of my mind was like, that's the end.
01;00;31;03 - 01;00;48;25
Unknown
That was it was. I was like, well, damn, bro, okay, in the middle of a podcast, this sucks. I mean, I would rather been doing something nice and fun, but, you know, just riffing on the microphone before the end. I also felt like, it happened twice. I was like, damn, two times I'm like, this is for real.
01;00;48;27 - 01;01;07;12
Unknown
This is. And this is the funny thing that we're at a point where, you know, the world is ending and we're not even fighting. No, just relax. Just resigning. You're like, well, you know, this is going to be a fire last episode. Pretty chill. That's, you know, it is what it is. Hopefully this, you know, survives the remnants of whatever happens.
01;01;07;12 - 01;01;25;04
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just, just, just two communities riffing like, wow, man, the 2000 is a great thousand years later. Just people trying to find out what we're talking about. What is the road? What, you know, telling jokes for a living when no wonder they died. Right. And what's that? And, you know, people talking about the acid spray.
01;01;25;04 - 01;01;43;00
Unknown
And thousand years from now, you know that, you know, just what is it took? Yeah. Well, I need to eat it. Is that, like, like an animal? No. Just crackers. Right. Probably got an animal probably a thousand years from now named Tucker. Some say it would probably. Yeah, I'd say, I don't know, probably like a baby Stegosaurus or something.
01;01;43;00 - 01;02;02;01
Unknown
Just like a baby Stegosaurus. Well, yeah. You know, this is the part of the podcast when things get weird. Yeah, yeah, we're both a little bit delirious. Look, I thought it was. I thought it was the end 10s ago. So I'm saying all my intrusive thoughts before. Honestly, I thought like a bomb or something went off. It looked like it was like a big flash.
01;02;02;01 - 01;02;24;21
Unknown
God forbid I die while the intrusive thoughts in my brain, you know. Oh, what a way to go. I want to say all the stupid shit before I go. There's stay there. Getting there, getting out. Yeah. Oh, man. I'm like, you know, two months for I'm like, oh, did you know that if you fold the dollar in a certain way that gives you a, you know, I'll say, I'll say whatever the fuck I want, but yeah, this is an interesting, you know, cultural thing.
01;02;24;21 - 01;02;43;09
Unknown
So if you guys don't know, this is what happens to comedians on a podcast. We talk about weird stuff, back to back and just tangents. Yeah. You know, this is the problem with being hung over, like, you have, what, like a little bit of a storyline. And then someone, one of us just says something off and we're like, all right, this is the new you saw again, right?
01;02;43;11 - 01;03;04;18
Unknown
No, I didn't know that I didn't. So I think it's a it's a, it's a, it's a reflection of a car door every time they open one like a, it kind of, okay gets it. We're, we're kind of like two cats on a window. What was that? Yeah. What was where the one was. Listen, we just saw multiple flashes in the window that's behind us, and we thought that was the end.
01;03;04;18 - 01;03;25;05
Unknown
So, we just had to check that it wasn't the end. Because we like ourselves more than what people assume. That's true. Yeah, that's a big. That's a big one. No, but, but yeah, I think we should wrap this up. I think I think, I think the hangover is, we're on. I was like, I don't want to wrap up your podcast, but, man, I'm out of stuff.
01;03;25;06 - 01;03;44;21
Unknown
Yeah. I was like, listen, dude, I don't know if you have another topic, but I fucking I'm dying over here. Like, I had my painkiller and like, by hour one, like, by the first end of the first hour, I was like, okay, this, this bagel is wearing off that we have two flashes. You're talking about this. Stick it a saurus.
01;03;44;23 - 01;04;08;14
Unknown
I'm like, what am I? Am I already dead? I already died just. And you're just like, nah, man, I think we got another half hour. It doesn't look all right. Well, buckle up, buckle up everybody. The writing was on the wall multiple times. Have been two flashes. Who thought it was over? I'm talking about baby Stegosaurus. It's like, all right, let's wrap this up.
01;04;08;17 - 01;04;27;29
Unknown
What is it? Stegosaurus. I'm up. Yeah. This is it. You need to take a nap. You need it. This is a that's a that's a toddler nap. Pre pre nap conversation. Well, and it's still Stigler so this isn't even make sense. What we're talking about. We get distracted by lights and flashes. We're like well the signature was that another flash?
01;04;27;29 - 01;04;49;26
Unknown
Well I was thinking about drugs. You know just incoherent sentences. This man is going he's going delirious on his own podcast. This is insane. This is part of a cultural thing. Yeah. This is the third culture. Like, we just have, like, I feel like the oxygen level dropped significantly. Like, yeah, this is real nice. I'm just going to have a nap.
01;04;49;28 - 01;05;18;22
Unknown
Just slowly sliding off the couch. Oh. Wow. Well, we should definitely wrap this up here. What an ending. I mean, we lost both engines and and you were like, we can still make it. I'm like, we're on the. We're so close, you know? Thank God you call that out. Because I was going I don't know where I was going, but yes, you seemed like you, you had another thing locked and loaded, but it's probably what was going to come out was going to be even crazier.
01;05;18;22 - 01;05;27;21
Unknown
So let's stop it here. If I still want a career. This was a lot of fun, but thank you for having me.
01;05;27;23 - 01;05;45;25
Unknown
Well, guys, thank you for listening in or watching. If you're still at this point, this year, at this point, there's going to be a Patreon link, to support you, actually. Yeah. This point. Yeah. You support my Patreon so I can pay you back, over the amount you donated to me. Let's make that one.
01;05;45;27 - 01;05;55;24
Unknown
I'll pay you on the back end. Okay. So, yeah, this is the, your boy Nya Yeanafehn! this is Ludwig Benecke, right? Yeah, yeah. Benecke. And, see you guys in the next one. Peace. Buh bye.