Chicago & LA, Early Europe Trips, and State of Entertainment w/ Brian Babylon | Ep 87

Today I sit with Brian Babylon. We talk about his time traveling Europe in the early 2000s. Also his different upbringing in Chicago. and comedy in Europe. He also shares thoughts on entertainment and where it's headed. And advice on stand up comedy  

Timestamps
(5:07) Berlin In 2000s
(16:43) Music
(19:57) Co-Ed Saunas
(23:44) Berlin Music Scene
(26:07) Childhood, Chicago, And Europe
(37:43) German Phase
(48:08) Different Take On Race
(56:14) Changes In Entertainment, LA And Chicago
(1:08:13) Comedy In LA
(1:10:49) Comedy In Europe
(1:17:15) 20 Years In Entertainment
(1:23:24) Comedy Advice
(1:41:53) Advice To Younger Self

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Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;33;06
Unknown
Even before this. I used to like going up as a kid. I used to go to London every summer, but that's totally different energy. But I think for an American, when you have that just outside of American press about how people live, it's just not so shocking. Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host Nya Yeanafehn. And in this podcast, we talk with people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day.

00;00;33;08 - 00;00;47;04
Unknown
So let's get in. Today's episode. All right, man, what's going on, man? How you doing? I'm here. Finally, people telling me about this podcast. Really? Yeah. That man you got to do was name, first of all, was the name of the podcast.

00;00;47;06 - 00;00;57;06
Unknown
We should have done this. Oh, no. It's good. It's a bad podcast. We'll stay with a podcast.

00;00;57;09 - 00;01;21;28
Unknown
Oh, shit. It's it's, third culture talk podcast. Third culture talk. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Welcome to third culture pop to, as a as a time, I was like, I know, but people were telling me about it. I think that was the end of last summer. What? Really? Yeah. Like, yeah, it's just podcast. I think I maybe I met you at the end of the summer last year.

00;01;22;01 - 00;01;42;21
Unknown
Yeah. Like the first time. Like I was here for the summer. Like some like July. Mid-August. As they did a hard run in the summer. Right. And then at the end of the summer in August I happened to get that commercial. I do my joke about, I had a Dollar Shave Club commercial that shot in Serbia.

00;01;42;22 - 00;02;01;18
Unknown
Nice, bro. Congrats. So, they flew you out, but I was like, you know what? Just fly me back from Berlin. I can just go back to Berlin, get another weekend, kick in. We'll see my peeps. Right. And then they flew me back from Berlin and I think on that trip as well like, yeah you know podcast and I was like I is black dude.

00;02;01;18 - 00;02;15;00
Unknown
Like okay. And then I met you. I remember what show it was, I think, is that like bouncing it was like one show. I think it was like briefly, I don't know, because I think I saw you, I heard I heard about you, but I was always, you know, moving about. Yeah, but no, I'm happy to be here.

00;02;15;00 - 00;02;33;00
Unknown
Happy to do it. We know a lot of people from, from back in the States. Yeah. Saint James Jackson, Saint James, Saint James from the shy Shout out to him, Saint James. Yeah. But yeah, I'm here. I'm there at two more days left on this run. I've been here since, New Year's Eve. Says New.

00;02;33;01 - 00;02;59;01
Unknown
Oh, so you been here for a minute? I'm here for two months. Just in Europe in two months, you know. And then I made this one of my my base. And then you float around to do shows a different countries and come back here. Right? They go back, you know what I'm saying? Versus kind of Los Angeles like, you know, I'm not LA but you know like and to keep costs low I run it this crib like actually in this neighborhood on the cheap cheap like €20 a night.

00;02;59;03 - 00;03;23;04
Unknown
Oh, bro. But and then I'm not even using it pretty much the whole time. Like that's worth it. Yes. Usually I would stay at this, Airbnb spot near Checkpoint Charlie. Numerous day night, y'all. Sponsor. So take that out. Fuzes, new ones, they try to sponsor you, then put that back in, but they get their network of, Airbnbs throughout the EU, so.

00;03;23;07 - 00;03;41;16
Unknown
Okay, stay then. I'm a different you know, I'm Brussels and Barcelona. They have some decent properties. And, was nicely located. But this is kind of just far out. So when we came back, yeah. From another show we'll show was that that was Oh, that's a show that I did on Saturday, the Saturday show. Then was like once I one bar, they had a popcorn and then.

00;03;41;16 - 00;04;04;06
Unknown
Yes, yes. With that talk. Yes. British chick. Yeah. You know, she, Yeah. She, she that's actually funny because we had a two hour and a half. She I don't know if it could have been three cheese nights, like. And she had an accent, too, so was like, so, so Hogwarts. But. Yeah, but it's this neighborhood's like so far a little bit to me versus, like, that Checkpoint Charlie spot where everything.

00;04;04;06 - 00;04;19;20
Unknown
Oh yeah, that's close. You know what I'm saying is like, you realize, like, okay, that's in the middle where you can get to sit in 15 minutes versus 2530. True I guess. Yeah. I mean, but you don't really take the subway like that. Right. Something to. Yeah. You see I was like you never see I really. Yeah.

00;04;19;20 - 00;04;37;21
Unknown
Because it's a safe subway. I mean it's just like I get it, but this is like it's never. I'm usually either Russian. I'm not Russian. Russian. Okay. Right. We we are, we are in Europe, by the way. Yeah. So you got to clear that, motherfucker's got nervous, and, this is like, you know what? Fucking I got time for that.

00;04;37;24 - 00;04;58;00
Unknown
Yeah, you know, I don't got time for that, but, Yeah, but I'm happy to be here, man. It's a good. It's a good run. And, we can talk about whatever this is. This is like, when my ninth, 10th time coming here. Really? Oh, so you've been coming here for. I mean, I've been coming to Berlin since.

00;04;58;03 - 00;05;21;09
Unknown
How do you mean? I'm 35. That's so when you was, 520. Wow. 20 years or you were 15? Yeah. 15 to 20 before comedy shit. So that could've been 25 years ago, dog. That was oh one. So you came out here? I was, I was I've been coming here back when it was francs. Deutschmarks was pre euro smartphone.

00;05;21;09 - 00;05;41;10
Unknown
Nokia. But me me me me me me me me. Any time you been coming to Europe and you hear that? Really tell you og I'm og that shit dog like I been coming here. Damn comedy I mean, I, I really always say Brian Babylon was technically made in Berlin. Really? Because before I was doing comedy, I was just like, you know what I'm gonna do with my life?

00;05;41;10 - 00;06;00;23
Unknown
You know, I was, until I used to work at United Airlines. Back in the States, in Chicago, from Chicago. He's working United Airlines. And I was a, senior media producer. So the person was made like this. Hey, fasten your seat belts and. No, no, no, I use one. You use it to produce those I produce and direct it.

00;06;00;23 - 00;06;23;28
Unknown
Those, like, shout out to you. I mean, good thing was in Delta because, you know, they they're going through some trials and tribulations right now. Yeah. No, but it was like united out of Chicago and, and then I worked at, you know, doing 911. Oh shit. Right. And and then a long story short, after 911, the, airline industry went down big debt.

00;06;24;01 - 00;06;42;19
Unknown
So they furloughed me. So a furlough was like a, hey, you know, we're cutting back just to save money, whether that, you know, a low key. That's one of my biggest, top three biggest regrets is not buying United stock when I could have, because I knew I was gonna bounce back. This is, like, awesome shit. Yeah.

00;06;42;23 - 00;06;58;21
Unknown
You know, I'll say the end word of like, that was the negative, right? Yeah, right. Not fine. Not buying the United stock back then. Back when it was like $5. Now is this you know, I'm saying. And I could have bought it as an employee. Oh so it could have been cheap. She could have been cheap. Cheap. Damn wrong.

00;06;58;22 - 00;07;17;13
Unknown
And I want to tell you this next part triple shit right. They they furlough. They furloughed me. Yeah. And, the whole thing was because I was, like, the last hired in my team. And, they were like, hey, the deal is we're going to furlough you. You know, we could call you back if things pick back up for.

00;07;17;13 - 00;07;43;06
Unknown
But for the next five, six years, you know, you're on this furlough status of United. You'll still get your health benefits. Annual flying benefits. So you can fly around the world however you want. You know, I'm saying you just have to pay the taxes on it back then. Right. Okay. So they furloughed me and I looked up man I got the first my first paycheck furlough.

00;07;43;07 - 00;08;05;13
Unknown
Then I got another paycheck furlough and then I got another paycheck furlough. I'm like oh that was paying you good. Paying me. Yeah I don't some like mistake glitch in the matrix pay me right. So they paid me every two weeks my salary for almost two years straight like a year and a half. Two years really. It was almost two years.

00;08;05;16 - 00;08;30;10
Unknown
It was, it was like, damn, bro, it was. Over a year and a half, bro. You died and it was paying you the same amount. Same amount. Oh, man. Yeah, of course. And I'm not. We're. And I was substituted in here and there and this, in this, little town called Harvey, Illinois, outside of Chicago. Okay, so I was making just big money, not work and kicking it, and I could fly whenever I wanted.

00;08;30;12 - 00;08;51;11
Unknown
First class for first class as an employee. If it's a seat there, you get that first class seat. Oh, dog. Jet, this is pre comedy dog. This is regular Brian. This is. Oh. So this is even even crazier. Even crazier free. Free like regular. So what I tell you, this lady, this one chick, she was. This is one of the best pickup moves that chick ever did on me.

00;08;51;11 - 00;09;10;17
Unknown
Oh, you on me. Like, okay. You trying to smash like you? She says, I mean, like, this guy's like, oh, man, you know, the show. People talk to you. This guy was like, man, you remind me of date people. I, I, I could see it. This one, she came over. It's bad. She's like, yeah, but I bet you he's cooler than Dave Chappelle.

00;09;10;22 - 00;09;22;21
Unknown
I'm like, man, she just went down it like, because you been, you know, you know. Yeah. Right about you did this this day, right? Right, right. Yeah. Research. You know you. Oh. So she did a research. She knew some shit like that. She said, oh, me on this other podcast. I saw this up while you were saying that.

00;09;22;21 - 00;09;42;08
Unknown
Used to travel Europe and like, he was a regular guy. You're right. I was not in first class. I would wake up, be like, the only some we. I'm gonna go to Amsterdam. Oh, bro. So you was out here. Out there. Oh, damn. You did those type of moves. Those type of moves. Traveling with flying International give we bringing it back.

00;09;42;15 - 00;10;04;17
Unknown
Oh, you while she what, like before a visa was when the bees are just start getting cool back. So you went there during that time. When would be the first pop? All the time. So use. They're doing a mike Posner. I popped a pill in the visa joint. Oh, let's do this. 2002 damn, bro, I Nokia phone times think it is is like untouched.

00;10;04;18 - 00;10;28;20
Unknown
You're basically it was super fresh, uncut raw like you're passing on this is like a little bit after. So I don't think the Barcelona Games was 96 for the Dream team. Right. So that's back when Barcelona got all that infrastructure built up. So by the 2000 they were ready to kick it. You know say Barcelona was popping you know hey and this isn't free internet really.

00;10;28;20 - 00;10;45;03
Unknown
I mean this internet was there right. But it wasn't what it was. It was no like, hey, how did you. Yeah. You should a, like, print out MapQuest and shit, you know, things and I translated Lonely Planet books. Oh, yeah. The little lonely Planet, like, hey, if you ever go to this, go check this out, you know?

00;10;45;04 - 00;11;04;06
Unknown
So you had to navigate via lonely Planet with Planet Books. They have websites. Travel websites. I mean, you had to work. You had to really work. But it was also used by all forms and shit. So it was it was talking you. Oh, so you just meeting people, talking. So you still had to have finesse and talk back then it wasn't.

00;11;04;06 - 00;11;21;07
Unknown
No, no, it was a different energy back then. Right. And I was some, chick who's like, according to Dave Chappelle, she was like, I mean, you flew the Concorde twice. I'm like, oh, wait a minute, bass. You know, going with deep cuts. Oh, shit. Does she knew all that? She knew it because I said it on this other podcast.

00;11;21;07 - 00;11;42;02
Unknown
Like I called twice before. They just discontinued it. Right, right. So you can. Air France is part of the United, group of airlines, right? You know, it's like, Star Alliance. Sara Lyons, that's Air France is in that. So you can look on the website. Oh, damn. If I can't get to a flight on United. They'll put you on the air France.

00;11;42;02 - 00;12;02;24
Unknown
Right. So you look in the system like oh shit. Air France has these Concorde flights. It was a little bit more but not that much more because you just paying the taxes. Yeah. So it's like nothing back then would be like 200 bucks. That ain't nothing. Especially a first class. So that's a round trip. And you go from Paris to New York under two hours.

00;12;02;26 - 00;12;24;07
Unknown
This cyber cyber. You know what I'm saying? I'm in first class I don't really I kick it, I do drugs, but yeah, Europe drugs. I don't be kicking it. I don't be, I don't really do hardcore drugs in America. You're drugs is a specific part. The drugs up. I'll try that. If anyone doesn't know European drugs, these drugs, they're sustainable.

00;12;24;07 - 00;12;43;19
Unknown
Ain't going to unravel your whole entire life. You can still have a productive life. But little bump here and there like I ain't. Yeah. You know, I'm saying. Okay. You know, so I was Ramazan Pear's cake and it is like I. What can people call that, a bender? Okay. Like any time, like some burning hand kicking it when you kicking it from like Friday night to Monday morning or Saturday night.

00;12;43;19 - 00;13;02;09
Unknown
Okay. That's a Monday. That's a minute, a minute, like every time you kick it in for over 24 hours. So I was one of them nights. Oh, shit. It's like back to back party. I was like, I gotta go home, right? I logged in, I wouldn't even had a fight logged in, like, oh, did Okonkwo right. Got the Conqueror flag.

00;13;02;12 - 00;13;23;12
Unknown
I'm on the flight. I get in, I kind of just can't go for sick. They wake you up quick because they gotta do shit quick, right? Right. I go eat and look around. I'm in. First class is me. It's a lady and one person in the back. It's three people on that plane. Three people. Cuz that pulls down 11.

00;13;23;14 - 00;13;45;12
Unknown
Oh, yeah. So yeah, no one's really flying like, yeah, people aren't really flying like that. I'm like this crazy like, this can't make it like, yeah, it can't sustain it. You can't be burning no rocket fuel. Not for three month. Fuckers. Right? I swear to God, like a month later, they discontinued that shit. Damn. Just continue the Concorde.

00;13;45;14 - 00;14;01;22
Unknown
Damn. But at least I was able to fly on that. Oh, no. Like, that's some. That's some cool blessing, James. Yeah. Cool point. It was so cool. She knew about it. Oh, she found that shit out if you know, you know, like Concorde fun. That's the term jet setting. Yeah. Came from that but I didn't. Oh I ain't no that like oh you're a jet setter.

00;14;01;22 - 00;14;24;18
Unknown
Like people used to like. Cause you used to have to back in the day pre fax machine. Right. This is old school pre fax machine. You have to like I got to close this deal overseas. Yeah. You had ass over there. Yeah. It's like the Concorde to I think they had one in London then they had one the Concorde in London.

00;14;24;18 - 00;14;55;09
Unknown
They had a Concorde to Paris I believe. Right. And I'll let that pass now, but yeah, we'll, we'll see. Yeah. We'll see, we'll see. You know, shout out to particular and say, look, that up. There you go. Please sponsor. That's what the term jet setting came from. So, you know, I've been kicking it like and back in 2003, 2002, three a meta me and my friends came over here to Berlin on a homie trip around New Year's Eve.

00;14;55;16 - 00;15;21;16
Unknown
And. We're just kicking it. And I met this chick at the spot called back and they called Q Dorf. I think it's new Dorf cuz that's always good. Club 20 years ago Berlin. Yeah, and I met some chick. You know, sometimes German chicks, when they just lock in the intensity level of lock in, like, just just smoke a cigaret says laser.

00;15;21;16 - 00;15;36;26
Unknown
Like, I'm like, they me and my boy. Because we, my best friend Dre, his wife Nikki, our old friend Monica. We all came and it was one of them club. They have different room. So we, we went to this other room and then I look up and then went to another room. I'm about eight. She's following you.

00;15;36;26 - 00;15;59;07
Unknown
That chick is following you. Be. And she was just staring at you to staring me down smokin squares. I'm like. And then she just walked over me. Who are you? Like what? Like, oh, I I'm right. Yeah. It's nice to meet you. And you are. I'm Brian, I'm from Chicago. Right. Well, and then I look and then her friend start talking to me.

00;15;59;07 - 00;16;18;02
Unknown
That's you talk to her friend. Now I'm realizing. Oh, but she don't speak English. You said who are like that was. That's the most you had. The most you had. Oh, okay. So she's coming in hot is a who are you? And then her friend was doing a lot of the translation. And for an old man, we end up kicking it.

00;16;18;02 - 00;16;35;22
Unknown
I think I went back to her crib, you know what I'm saying? Like, oh. So then. Yeah, this is, like, different for you. He was like, damn. Okay. For I know dog. Like we was like, that was my my dad. Like yeah I will come back over stay her career for like 3 or 4 weeks at a rep really.

00;16;35;28 - 00;16;57;11
Unknown
And then just hang out here. Oh so this is jokes and I hadn't even opened yet. So this is pre comedy right. And I I'm, I make I produce music so I make beats. And back then I had like a, you know old school MPC. Oh you used an MPC. Oh NPC doing twins. And I had like a Triton keyboard with Ferrell.

00;16;57;13 - 00;17;17;25
Unknown
The gray and white joined the gray and white, very white with the little screen and pop up. Yeah, I had the MPC. I had a Court Triton keyboard that you for the Midi shit. Oh, shows you beats would be trash. Oh wait wait wait wait I got I got that oh angle I heard MPC, I was like, yo I because you know, that's the one you hear a lot of classic.

00;17;17;27 - 00;17;33;01
Unknown
Yeah. Like you you need but you just is so hard little last screen you it was not you think about the new one with the big screen. No I even remember the old one is like the small a sliver sliver. Yeah. The big knob. Yeah, it's a big knob. But that little thing was like, what is all this information?

00;17;33;01 - 00;17;49;14
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. He's like a floppy disk giving right. Floppy disk to local little say. Yeah. Crazy shit. Look back at it. Right. You had to be like an actual computer scientist and shit to work. I mean, this is a thousand pieces. This is a thousand beat machines in your phone. That's just crazy when you think about when you create that, right?

00;17;49;14 - 00;18;10;26
Unknown
Yeah. So shout out to Inner Gawker. What's their name? Actually, I'm. I'll see you today. Oh where you live I do, you see. Oh here we see my homie today. Oh damn. So her for over 20 years that wow yo so that. Yeah the these friends she's really like like that's my dog to this day I'm seeing her later today.

00;18;10;26 - 00;18;36;02
Unknown
Straight up and down. Oh she so you know we you know I would drive her car to the Sony Center. Sony center was the Sony Center is so Alexanderplatz. Okay. Sony center, Sony center. Okay, I know Alexanderplatz. I want to say that's where it is. Yeah, it was around that area. So she worked in. I would drive her car, drop her off like, oh, y'all real homies?

00;18;36;02 - 00;18;55;21
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, you know, I'm saying, like, didn't know where to fuck. I just figured it out, like, you know, after a while, I know how to get here. To here. Oh, this is all before Google Maps. Even though it turn left, it was none of the Diamond Dog. They had any of the signs of English. I mean, I was English, I was, yeah, you got to go off hustle and guts, nigga.

00;18;55;23 - 00;19;17;22
Unknown
That's what I'm saying. Next level. Shit. So, she had this homegirl that was dating this dude and Chris, right? And he made, like, trance music, like, ain't not now. Techno, trance, no chain like. And that chick like that, right? Okay. Kind of like techno, but it's the same. Yeah. I don't know what train says. I'm. When you say train, I'm thinking, like music put you in a trance.

00;19;17;28 - 00;19;35;24
Unknown
Is techno okay, check. Then the days I was, I would have if I got to my house like die techno. Yeah. It's more synthy. Synthy, okay. More sense to the tune to. Well, you don't have to like, stop at one place, like, you know. Right. So he did, and he has some songs that charted in Austria, here, France.

00;19;35;27 - 00;20;00;08
Unknown
He had a song, that went to like number top five called The Lord's Prayer. That's why the Lord's Prayer. Okay. There's no joke. He said, no, you make you say, yeah, man, till I make beats. We went to universe like a liquid room. Nah, it's a spot here called Liquid Rome. Like liquid dome.

00;20;00;12 - 00;20;22;21
Unknown
Yeah. So liquid Rome. Oh okay. It's like a day spa kind of based on those. And it's a large waiting pool where it's coed. It's coed. Locker rooms is weird. Coed locker room. So people be naked in front of you. So I'm. I'm changing to my shit. And right next to me, this old lady would just Okon titties next to me.

00;20;22;21 - 00;20;42;18
Unknown
I'm like, so what do you think? I'm like, what the fuck? Just go, you know, it's oh, because you know what? Because she went in one door right? Another. Okay. I'm going. I'm thinking like she went in the women's side, right? Yeah. And I go to I guess it's the men's side, right? That's why we go to the same door if it's coed.

00;20;42;21 - 00;21;00;06
Unknown
So I'm splitting my shit on and I'm like, you know. Yeah, look over at this ladies trying out. And just her titties is like straight cone titties. I'm like, what thing? And probably, like, not even you know, you you buy it in your mind, like you. What the. You know what? Gather yourself. He gives no for no fucks.

00;21;00;06 - 00;21;15;09
Unknown
No fuck. So you go in there and, you think you committed a crime in real time. You're like, oh, shit. Damn, y'all in the wrong place. Like, what's going on? She's like that to did to the. She's just. No one's fazed. Yeah. So we go, I change my clothes, go outside. And this is nice. My God, this place is dope.

00;21;15;09 - 00;21;36;02
Unknown
Is like little sauna is like. Yeah, yeah. Little steam areas, like little hot tubs, cruises all around. This is big wait. This big Olympic size waiting pool. So it's probably comes up to I'm 63 so probably comes up to oh. So he's like big. We're in the deepest part. It comes up to my mid body. Oh. So it's like a real pool.

00;21;36;02 - 00;21;57;10
Unknown
Like oh it's huge. Yeah. Huge right. And I know what is this. Right. So you for the lay down people just laying down flag is real salty. Yeah. So he's laying down flat and people just float around in it, right. Oh, she's a DJ up top playing music. Yeah. Everyone but no no no no, you have, swim trunks.

00;21;57;10 - 00;22;21;03
Unknown
Oh you do okay. Oh make it you have on people just changing into this one chance. Oh okay. Right. But you change into some trunks. Okay, everyone have some trunks. So you just wait now going, you know, you, when you lay down the lay down, relax and float around. Right. And then if you put your head under the water, is another DJ for under the water and you hear crystal clear.

00;22;21;06 - 00;22;46;19
Unknown
It was like. Yo. It was I was like, oh, this is dope, nigga. That's that's and dope shit, right? That's no fly. As if I did everything. What? I was like, wow, this is dope, right? So, Chris, I'm 63. He could have been like six, eight, six, eight. Okay. Like, as tall as my father, like LeBron's. You know, I'm saying like, you know I'm saying like I have friends with NBA.

00;22;46;19 - 00;23;03;25
Unknown
So I'm saying people like NBA size you know like right where I'm like six three I'm tall. Yeah. So yeah. But that's like you an NBA world that's a short. Yeah. You're like a powerful no I'm a point guy. No point guy. You're point guy in the NBA I'm a point guard. Yeah. So I'm like oh. So he's like, Ryan, relax here.

00;23;03;27 - 00;23;24;08
Unknown
Go to the ledge, hold onto the ledge and just put your head and just relax. Right. All right. So I'm just I got I'm floating. Yeah. This dude takes he's takes my ankles. Relax as I'm flying in. Starts to like, float me around the pool. I'm like, that probably is the dumbest shit. Some big, tall German floating some black dude around the pool.

00;23;24;08 - 00;23;38;02
Unknown
Yeah. It's like, first of all, don't touch my ankles. Oh, no. I feel like you know what? I'm gonna go. Hey, low ride. Go ahead. Oh my God, anybody touch my ankles like they touch my ankles? It's like. Like, yeah. I'll be like. I'm like, hey, look, I'm not into that. I don't know what's gonna happen. I,

00;23;38;05 - 00;23;59;15
Unknown
All right, man, I'm relaxed. I said, so this dude Chris asked him to, but he has, like, a studio. And I'm realizing that it was in this neighborhood outside of, like, you know, the wedding train station is. Yeah. Honestly, it was a little bit before that because it was a long the you. Yeah. It's. Man. Yeah. This shit was a long ass man.

00;23;59;15 - 00;24;13;29
Unknown
So it was around that circle. So they come to my he's like, you make music. I said, yeah, I got an NPC, I got a quartet. Why do you have all this? Why do you have outboard machine? Oh, German people, when you talking shit that don't not allowed to play golf. So why do you do this? Yeah.

00;24;13;29 - 00;24;41;00
Unknown
Why? And it'd be very direct. No, nothing. That is a computer. A computer is stronger than the MP. Yeah. The software that doesn't, like, really come to my studio. So I go to his studio and, I walk in and this is when he was recording the Lord's Prayer. And I walk in and. And Hans Mueller. What I sounds really Hans Mueller I, I want to say it's, it's a great name.

00;24;41;00 - 00;25;06;21
Unknown
Is it. Do those in Gladiator. Okay. Muscle bound German. Right. Right. Like he was a dude that was fighting Russell Crowe. Oh Gladiator like the muscle. But he was there. It's my fucker. It's in the booth. Headphones on reading the Lord's Prayer to the song. In the beginning the Lord bring everything nuts. The the I'm like like you.

00;25;06;21 - 00;25;21;18
Unknown
Like where am I? Oh, that is this one. And this is. This is all within you. First you're in Berlin. I was like, this is like the maybe third trip. But even still, though, that's crazy. Oh, no. I was in the mix by that time, you know. Oh, he's in the mix. I was like, it's I'm like, okay, like I was.

00;25;21;18 - 00;25;44;25
Unknown
Yeah. So he told me, come on, you know, that is not perhaps going to be a hit. You know, you already had shot it with this other song, the the right basic thing that people know on top of, trying to techno it becomes hit. So damn, bro, he showed me how to use Ableton reason all that music software and I did that every day like, you know, go to work.

00;25;44;25 - 00;26;02;23
Unknown
I got to do studio. Yeah, I just learned that shit. Damn, bro. Every day. So you live in, like, a real life out here in Berlin, like I'm. I mean, just a different type of life. There's no comedy. Zero. Com. So you was out here free. Free. I wasn't, I wasn't comedy wasn't even a thing for me back home, I wasn't even doing comedy.

00;26;02;23 - 00;26;22;22
Unknown
But as while for you to come because, I mean, because you you're you born and raised in Chicago, right? Yeah. And to come from there to Berlin, that's like a whole different, like changes, so many different levels. You got, you know, you got the freedom of how people are in Berlin. The way even dating interaction. Right. The women smoking a cigaret comedy.

00;26;22;24 - 00;26;54;05
Unknown
Who are you? Like, whoa, whoa, what, like and then super hope. Well, and I'm like this. I'm, Even even before this, I used to like going up as a kid. Like I used to go to London every summer. Oh, okay. So use, you know, but that's totally different energy. But I think for an American, when you have that just outside of American, how people live, it's just not so shocking.

00;26;54;07 - 00;26;59;03
Unknown
So I used to go to London every summer from, like.

00;26;59;06 - 00;27;23;03
Unknown
Until I was like maybe eighth, ninth grade. So that was could have been ninth grade. I lost my virginity at, what, 14A? Oh, yeah. Bro. Yeah, bro, this is destined. Whatever the hell you had going on like this was destined. You. You lost your virginity 14 years old. How the fuck did that happen? I was going on to my older cousin.

00;27;23;03 - 00;27;56;06
Unknown
They was visiting right in London. She was. So I guess a senior. She agreed with my high school to give me like 17, 18. Right, right. And, she, they were going on like a celebration trip with her friends, going to Paris that, like, so my family had a place there. They going to crash because, you know, like European shit, European shit, and and, I was like, she had to go to work and we'll be going to a price, like, I'm going to, like, it's taken with you.

00;27;56;08 - 00;28;15;01
Unknown
All right. Wow. So they took you to Paris? This is your first time going to Paris? At that time was my first time. Oh, my very first time. I had. No, I went with my, like, family after that, but that was my very first time. Yeah. And and that was late 80s, Ambrose. I was 14. Had a high top fade.

00;28;15;02 - 00;28;33;25
Unknown
Yeah, I was going through, like a De La soul jungle brothers tribe phase. So, so you had did you had the pendant and everything with it, like, I have one. I had one of those, like I. You had to have something like a native tongue, some device or generic shirts. Yeah. And did you even use the, the masks and everything?

00;28;33;25 - 00;28;55;06
Unknown
So who the like, you know, the oils or whatever? No no no no, no, I just have, you know, like, I just dressed different. I was wearing like, my dad's. Oh, Armani suits. I was going through Armani suit phase. Not the way you put away. Where were. Oh, my dad was a banker. Okay, okay. Yeah. Armani. Armani. But but, I mean, they were hand-me-downs.

00;28;55;06 - 00;29;10;29
Unknown
Yeah, but they still. I never heard that term before. Our Armani suit as a kid. Yeah, that's a flex. Let's let's put some, let's put some energy to that. Like, there's, like, give me. Oh, suit. I get any kind of tailor to fit me. No wonder you lost your Virginia. 14 years old. Think you had a Armani suit?

00;29;11;03 - 00;29;30;25
Unknown
Yeah, well, the thing I try to dress, I used to try to dress like, that's just old school, like, ABC. This is Bangkok. ABC from from from London or, Bryan Ferry, Roxy Music. Like, there was this debonair dudes like, you know, debonair. Hey, lady, you know, it was a vibe. I thought it was cool, and I was trying to emulate that.

00;29;30;26 - 00;29;59;24
Unknown
Oh, shit. And I remember I, I came there and I had one of my dad's old, you know, like a briefcase that bankers wear. Yeah. Bank of. And he was. I'll take his old briefcases. And that was kind of like my backpack, you know, keep that back. So in this briefcase I had, looking back, dumb kid shit. Like we had, like, some firecrackers, a couple of packs of firecrackers, some mad magazines, some X-Men comics.

00;29;59;27 - 00;30;25;12
Unknown
And I had a whole bunch of, like, cassette tapes. Right. So, like, record mixes on the radio in Chicago on the weekend. All in his briefcase. Yeah. There's, like a whole bunch of cassette tapes, some comic books, some firecrackers, throw up, some playing cards. Just a 14 years old Armani suit. Fucking briefcase. We're all with some dog laughs.

00;30;25;12 - 00;30;43;07
Unknown
Is that did that's a recipe for you to lose your virginity. 14 years old in Europe. You was ready. I was, I was cool. These kids thought I was cool. And then like, boom, remember boom box, right? The big ones with the big, big speakers and I didn't know double could do. So. Yeah, the big ass batteries and shit.

00;30;43;10 - 00;31;07;24
Unknown
Double DS D yeah, double DS. So her friend, I was like, turn into the music guy because they had it was music they had never heard. I'll show you the man. It was like house music. They had never. Okay. Chicago. Oh, so you was. Yeah. Oh I had like I had maybe like 20 mega 30 cassette tapes. Oh you was or you was the plug, bro.

00;31;07;24 - 00;31;27;16
Unknown
That plug. Damn 2530 cassette tapes of just that high record. Because you know, when you back and you ain't doing shit as a kid, you went home, right? I'm in my room recording and GCI and WB mic shout out to be a mixed bag. And they they would have like like Farley mix, funk, jive, master funk, bad boy.

00;31;27;16 - 00;31;53;09
Unknown
Bill would you like 35 40 minute just mixes. No commercials. They'd be drops. They'll play some commercials all at the end. So you stop the tape, do another hour. You do that Friday, Saturday night, you got a whole lot more months. Yeah. You love Mega you. Why do I? I remember I had to take that tape. Oh, you probably started a few scenes out here and you're like, take it.

00;31;53;09 - 00;32;22;24
Unknown
Takes me have it, man. And and you give someone a tape. You they you they man for light. Yo they man for life. So my friend. So my cousin's friend, she just was crushing on me. And you know, I was like, oh, hey, I knew about, you know, had I maybe even get a girl here that. Yeah. Make had made, you know, or some of my cousin came and she was like, yo, I think,

00;32;22;27 - 00;32;42;04
Unknown
Lisa or some, some these, like, she was half like. Yes. Sounds French enough, but she was French. Oh, good. She was like a baby and something. Yeah. I'm saying it was like a like a a month. You know how we have mixed people in, in the States. Yeah. That was you did. Oh you black and white. Yeah.

00;32;42;07 - 00;33;02;26
Unknown
He was like yeah. That's a big company or something. Yeah. You, you don't even know the name. You kind of like you mix with something exotic. So. And she was cute as fuck. She look me tell you she looked like she kind of looked like a white version of, Monie Love. Really? Okay. And as a reference of my old school rap, like.

00;33;03;02 - 00;33;20;02
Unknown
Because if I had. If I had to put it. Yeah, she's like, I think so. And so like you're like really I think so. I think so too was like. And she was like, have you ever had sex before? I'm like, no, but I know what to do. I was like, no, I never had sex, but I know what to do.

00;33;20;03 - 00;33;43;26
Unknown
Yeah. How do you know what to do? I like because, hairy daddy got pornos. Oh, my boy across the street. Hairy. His pops are big. Hairy. Yeah. I'm off. I had always cartons of cigarets. Cases of Budweiser, and the most elaborate porno collection that he had. An old school like file, you know, pull out file like. And.

00;33;43;27 - 00;34;08;28
Unknown
Oh, she had, like, like, thumb through. And there wasn't this not thumb through tapes. These were VHS tapes. So he was like, it was on DVD. Yeah. He was like, these were like, oh, darn. So he was like the local porn dealer. He just had porno. And this was back when we found the. Y'all young people know to own a VHS tape of of something like that, was hundreds of dollars, like, if you want to have.

00;34;08;28 - 00;34;25;25
Unknown
I remember they had, like, Harry was one of the first and it's my little brother still to this day. He met me in Barcelona in the summer. I mean, his wife, they were the first people on the block to have a VHS, a VCR. So everyone was at the house. Everyone. And he had, like, a low key collection.

00;34;25;25 - 00;34;52;12
Unknown
Then where we hit the Muppets movie Superman to man to dirty Harry Halloween. He had like, oh, these, like, so he. Y'all was there or every night. Damn. If you wanted to, a legit certified copy. One of the movies. Yeah. Be for $500 back then. Yeah. So that's because they were like, that's back when the that's when Hollywood was making that dough.

00;34;52;13 - 00;35;06;17
Unknown
Yeah. Because it was a that's when you had to have a physical thing. There was no digital shit. And this was before you can record over VHS tapes. Right. You go if you want to record over that shit. Now he knows always because I don't know, you remember they had that period of time where people did recording over shit.

00;35;06;17 - 00;35;21;26
Unknown
So you think like, oh no, that was he. That was that was was shizzle that when people started having mass diapers. Yeah. All right. And people like, you know, you can buy the Jerry Springer, tape in the article, he would be at the tail end, you know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, yeah, that's for to take.

00;35;21;28 - 00;35;37;04
Unknown
All right. Our killer shit, you know, to. Right. You know. Yeah, yeah, you fast forward and but. Oh. Oh, shit. He peed on that bitch, right? You know. Oh, we gotta rewind from the beginning, but he. So I knew what to do, sex wise, and I got. I did it right. It was the first time with quick.

00;35;37;06 - 00;35;52;01
Unknown
I mean, you know, you know, young 14 year old. Bounce back quick right now. Remember she started smoking cigaret after. I'm like, damn that. People do that for real. Because you know people. Yeah, right. You you see that in the movies. In the movies I'm like, yeah, sure. People do that for once. You're like, hey, yeah, yeah, of course, you know.

00;35;52;03 - 00;36;16;17
Unknown
Whoa. But you're, I'm really living a movie life because we live in a real movie at 14 years old. And now when I look back at us, I mean, I was substitute teaching. You would see a 14 year old like, oh, my God, that betrayed me. Oh. How how old was she? She was 18. Okay, okay. So then so I was 19.

00;36;16;17 - 00;36;40;14
Unknown
And so when I got back from when I got back that trip, I went into high school. I was a totally different nigga. You could. Yeah, I yeah, if your brain was changed, but my brain was change because, like, I never had a girlfriend in high school. You couldn't after that. I was always the oldest. Shakes. Like she talking about some bullshit about the local shit around the way you thinking about being in France?

00;36;40;14 - 00;36;57;18
Unknown
You think about the cigarets. You smoke? Yeah. Like the Armani suit out there with a briefcase like you got the top. Yeah. So I'm telling this about your case, you know, like me and I. And I'ma be real with you. I've, I've always. I hated Paris. I had to Paris for the longest. Even in the 2000. Okay?

00;36;57;18 - 00;37;18;11
Unknown
Cause it was just hard to navigate. Yeah. You don't speak French, bro. You out. You are old man. And yeah, you definitely out. It was like, yeah. Now when I go back, it's a breeze. Oh yeah. You get, you know they people more receptive to speak English especially being receptive speaking English. And you don't need them as much.

00;37;18;13 - 00;37;40;24
Unknown
You ain't bugging them for. How do you excuse me? Pamela, I had that joke about. Hey, excuse me. We didn't. McDonald's, McDonald's, McDonald's. You. McDonald's. Oh, McDonald's like that. You knew the fuck? Yeah. Did you want you to struggle? But that I'm telling you that. So I say, that's all. I'll say this. I've always been different. The I mean, bro, I mean that that, that.

00;37;40;24 - 00;37;52;06
Unknown
And I'm, I tell you, this last, this last little nugget, it has to kind of do with, with, with with Germany. Yeah. When I was in,

00;37;52;08 - 00;38;27;24
Unknown
I was a fourth grade. Fourth grade. I went through a swastika phase. Okay. Not this is pre Kanye. Oh, nigga, but this is post War 2000. I was, I was, I was, 11, you know, a fourth grader. You know what I'm saying? I was so. Okay. And I would get these like, time life, photo journalistic books of all history.

00;38;27;26 - 00;38;46;20
Unknown
And for some reason, that war won World War two. Really the World War two one when you can take really good pictures. That one. Just because the pictures are so great and they were about you know the war. But when I got to that n*** shit I'm like this motherfucker look cool as fuck. But you don't say.

00;38;46;20 - 00;39;04;09
Unknown
And he really didn't know that like damn. Yeah, yeah. Oh like the uniformed. You know those are, those are local. You know, the you go, oh, you a boss made the, n*** uniforms. You got to the first page, and when you jump to page 20, you're like, oh, shit, these are so cool. Not knowing the whole, like, I mean, you knew you like, okay, you you you see our our.

00;39;04;14 - 00;39;23;23
Unknown
Okay. That's America, but you're not really reading it. You just going off the page. You like the the Japan pictures look cool, right? He's Oh. Use like how old I now ought to be. Oh, you to 11. Oh, okay. You use a baby. A kid like you just wow, wow wow. So I just start drawing swastikas on everything.

00;39;23;25 - 00;39;44;25
Unknown
And this is in Chicago. Chicago neighborhood. Nigga, I was on everything. Oh, everything. So, you know, timber, Timberland. You know what? Timberland? Yeah. Yeah. No. Typically. Yeah. I used to wear, Timberland boat shoes, but they're not. Nothing like the. The small thing. Yeah, with the little need, like, the little, like, I don't know, thing around the edges.

00;39;44;25 - 00;40;06;23
Unknown
Around the edges. And then you, Well. Shoestrings. Yeah. Shoestrings. Right. G-strings. And I remember I, I drew a swastika on the leather next to the Timberland logo. Right. Oh, that my dad's a banker, and we had to go to this. My. They were to the black bank. Oh, shit. Yeah, I actually one of the back then one of the largest black banks in the country, independence Bank.

00;40;06;23 - 00;40;32;29
Unknown
So I'm from Chicago. So that's where another reason I'm kind of like because I always grew up around black men winning. Oh, that's dope right there. Ebony jet magazine. George I, you know, jet magazine came from Chicago. I mean that do like Ed, I grew up South Sheen. George Johnson was my dad's boss. Afro chainsaw. Same guy who the guy who technically made Soul Train happen was through my dad's bank.

00;40;33;01 - 00;40;51;20
Unknown
There was a South where Don Cornelius and I started Soul Train start in Chicago. The first season, two seasons, was taped in Chicago. Then they moved to LA. There you right. So I'm growing up, all I see is just black men. Women. Yeah. Just do the Armani suits of afros is, you know. Yeah. Like was like boomerang when you walk, you know.

00;40;51;20 - 00;41;10;15
Unknown
Yeah. With a turtleneck and everything. Yeah. So my dad was like, you know, young, young guy, he went to USC. So that's all I knew. So one day we had to go to a white banker's meeting downtown. And you got me into this. You know, this thing was going to be the white bankers. Yeah. So? So what are you doing to go up?

00;41;10;15 - 00;41;33;10
Unknown
No. Like, go put on. It was sort of like your. I had, like, a short sleeve polo shirt, some khakis. You know, you're. Hi. I'm. Yeah. That that look in my Timberland bowl shoes. Like, I just saw a preppy look tucked in. So I got in the car, my dad looked at me. Say, what you wearing? He looked at my shoes.

00;41;33;10 - 00;41;46;18
Unknown
He was like, wow, what's that on your shoes? I'm like, oh, this is my my boss. He's like, no, no. What's that you drew on your shoes? Like, oh, I don't know. He looked at the swastika. He's like, what's that you drew in your shoes? He was like, I was like, I don't know, like a symbol. It means war.

00;41;46;24 - 00;42;06;12
Unknown
I don't know, it's something he's like, okay, so we drive to it. Oh, shit. He's like, Brian, do you remember, you remember the Blues Brothers? The guys who were chasing the Blues Brothers because it was seen in the Blues Brothers real famous scene with the Blues, with the n***s. We're trying to march through Skokie, Illinois. It was a real story.

00;42;06;12 - 00;42;22;20
Unknown
And the Blues Brothers stop them from, you know, marching in. You know, in the movie Blues Brothers, I don't really Blues brothers was a classic movie. Dan Aykroyd and yeah, and John Belushi. I know it's a movie. I should I should know, but I it's a, you know, blues before your time. And it was I was little. Yeah.

00;42;22;20 - 00;42;37;08
Unknown
When it came out, you know. Really for your parents. Okay. But it if you Chicago you definitely a blues brothers SNL SNL and all that shit. Yeah of course then like I'll they know a so we end up my father's at the shoe store. I'm like, what are we doing there? He's like, I gotta buy you some shoes, man.

00;42;37;08 - 00;43;01;22
Unknown
You can't, you can't. There's no shoes on my. All right, go to that. You come back home and my father says, hey, Brian. Giant swastikas on his clothes. I told my mother he did what? Oh, yeah. Brian, you're not supposed to do that. Like, why are y'all screaming? You know, I'm like, she's like, you know, Hitler, that's Adolf Hitler.

00;43;01;28 - 00;43;21;17
Unknown
He was satanic. Like, what? Don't you remember in Indiana Jones? Where about like, oh, yeah. Was like daddy, Indiana Jones, I get it, the n***s. I ain't got no blues brothers, motherfucker. It's just a reference, right? Thank God for Indiana Jones for letting a black boy know that that was a bad. Wow. Who'd have thought that? The Holocaust.

00;43;21;17 - 00;43;42;07
Unknown
But Indiana Jones shout out to Dave Lucas, who have thought he had a big impact on such a young boy's life? So my mother, my mother goes to my room and she's like, wait, get up here. My dad's nickname was right waking up here. Yeah, it was swastikas everywhere, bro. From my desk, on my bed. You just just tagging swastikas everywhere.

00;43;42;07 - 00;44;13;24
Unknown
I think that that church just door, bro. Now, a stress for a black family, for the young son to be doing that had. No I had no clue. Had no clue. I had no clue. Right. So fast forward. That's fourth grade. So my, my, I go to school every summer. So this the sixth when I was in sixth grade, going to seventh, my, my mother came to get me, but she said, you know, we're going to take this, take a, a family vacation.

00;44;13;26 - 00;44;38;26
Unknown
We met this other family and we just drove throughout Europe, this other family right there. I went to, like, Austria, Hungary, just with the Germany. So we're we go to Frankfurt. Then we go to Heidelberg, go to High Double Castle, and then we go to Dachau concentration camp. Right. So we're at school, I'm like, oh, wow.

00;44;38;26 - 00;45;02;21
Unknown
You know, go to the tour like, wow. And I'm a six course two years after my swastika event. Two years. Right? Right, right. Oh. Going around. All right. So the tour ends. The Dachau concentration camp tour ends in the gas chamber, right? You in the gas chamber. And you, there's very solemn. They got a pile of shoes that the the prisoners would wear.

00;45;02;26 - 00;45;25;22
Unknown
Very, very powerful. Yeah. What? Me and my mother standing in the front of the shoes and everyone's somber, is a few people scattered around right. And then my mother kind of goes, the enemy is like. You see, Brian, he's whispering this. You see, Brian, this is why you shouldn't like n***s. I'm like, what are you talking about? I don't like n***s.

00;45;25;25 - 00;45;43;10
Unknown
It's like you don't like n***s. You draw the swastikas everywhere. Like. I mean, that was two years ago. I'm in sixth grade. I'm like, that is more like basketball and girls. And I'm like, not. It's no more. So me and my mother having this whisper fight about n***s in the gas chamber. I'm gonna be right with you.

00;45;43;16 - 00;46;06;11
Unknown
The worst place to have a whispered argument that isn't a gas chamber because there's no sound. Absorb your voice echoes. So everyone was. Everyone was like, well, who likes n***s, right, bro? That was probably the most uncomfortable position for a white group to be in, because it's like, yo, this is a black family. And it wasn't me they weren't next to.

00;46;06;11 - 00;46;24;07
Unknown
But it was like people. But you hear like, you don't like n***s. I don't like n***s. I like yeah, this was like with like this. That was two years ago. And this is, this is arguing, whispering to. So this is argue with me. Hey. No. Yeah. This is basically regular conversation, which is a soft tone. How do you deal like that?

00;46;24;07 - 00;46;44;00
Unknown
Yeah. You don't n***. Yo. This is what? Both. Fuck. I don't like n***s. Mommy. What are you talking about? So I hope I hope the whole punchline is I'll tell you some. The worst place to have a whisper argument about n***s is a gas chamber. Oh, why was that? A cover story? As a I mean, look is burning your memory forever.

00;46;44;00 - 00;47;00;25
Unknown
So you never going to do that shit again for roof? Yeah, I was I now I when you said Indiana Jones I was over the night. Yeah he's like I got a yes. It's like Harrison Ford I got it. Plus I was like in junior high I was like in, like in the girls. Right. You shit I had Michael Jordan was out.

00;47;00;25 - 00;47;21;20
Unknown
So like, my hair was low. I was in the hoops hardcore. Oh yeah. Yeah. George Chebyshev coming from Chicago. Chicago? Yeah. Somewhere else. n***s. What you talking about, right? Yeah. Damn. Yo. You go. That was that. I, I still roll hair about that. Yeah. That's what she. She planned that trip for, like, years. I'm going to take him.

00;47;21;23 - 00;47;36;21
Unknown
Oh. So she had us. She had a like. Oh, she's playing the long game. The longest game. You should have her. I mean, we don't have to do all this, right? It was a good tour. All right. Good trip. But like, come on. He's like mommy, I like pussy now. I like my girl. My titties, I like, come on.

00;47;36;23 - 00;47;55;29
Unknown
Don't take my no raggedy ass n***s dog. Yeah, right. That's that. But that, that trip was, was hilarious. Lousy. Okay, so that. So you been coming out to your, in many different ways for a while. So you. So. Yeah. You couldn't. I feel like when you come to when you come to any country in Europe, you kind of be here for a while and you go back to America.

00;47;56;00 - 00;48;11;15
Unknown
You see the contrast. You you almost. I have a I want to say like a yearning, but you kind of now can't live the same way in America. So because like, you just you just seen another side. It's like if you eat anywhere, you go out, anywhere you go. I mean, I've been doing it since I've been doing this so long.

00;48;11;15 - 00;48;35;03
Unknown
Like my, my take on race has been different since I was a kid. And, What you mean? Mean? Like when I go to London, you will see American race situations. Has a lot of Jim Crow slavery. Did it it, England racism is totally different. First of all, you just you black people are the second tier minority.

00;48;35;05 - 00;49;02;16
Unknown
Indian people are first. Indian people are the niggers over there. Black people are second. Indians. Pakistanis, they're the first. They're London's black Jamaicans, Algerians. They're all the second tier minority. They're not even the main minority like London had, Indian Prime Minister already. Yeah, they've had their Obama, who just got out this past this past, right.

00;49;02;22 - 00;49;20;27
Unknown
Yeah. Right. So their whole perspective is different. So when I would be in Brixton, you'd be hanging out with just. I remember I hung out with, a kid who was like a rude boy, like, there's like a b hip hop b boy. Yeah. A kid who was punk like punk rocker kid, right? With the spice and everything.

00;49;20;27 - 00;49;44;12
Unknown
Like kid who was a straight skinhead all together while we all kicked it together. What? And then skinhead was technically just white people being for white people, it didn't really have that. Well, you know, I'm saying it was still. Yeah, I don't know, they probably did racist shit. Let's be real. Yeah, of course it wasn't. Skinheads hung out with black people and you know what I'm saying?

00;49;44;12 - 00;50;08;11
Unknown
Like, it was just a weird wow. And it was not even normal. Said shit about it, you know? Yeah. And I remember hearing this like, oh. Here, this, this, I think the, the kid who was a punk rocker, his uncle or whatever would just roast black people would be in love with the royal family. It's like other fucking gonna let the royal family.

00;50;08;13 - 00;50;25;07
Unknown
You so stupid, you know, like, those are the people are the number one colonizer. They made money off the slave trade. Oh, you probably gonna this I do like. Good point. Did you buy the royal? Cause I was thinking that was like when Princess Di like a little bit after that, I have to say, you know, that she was like, top dog.

00;50;25;07 - 00;50;46;07
Unknown
You know, all that shit. And, you know, have you found out there's a shit either. Brick, there's another town in London where their whole economy was based off of making the chains for slaves. I gotta look at it. I will, I'll find that. Was it a it's like, near the coast or something. It's. No, no, they it was.

00;50;46;12 - 00;51;08;22
Unknown
No, it was like, you know, the Manchester one of them cities was like the number one producer of slave chains near like, so money was being made. Yeah. You see, I'm saying like. Right. They might not have did slave trade did it? But money's being made now. Yeah. Not just profiting from it. Yeah. Profiting like the boats that did the this or that.

00;51;08;23 - 00;51;28;09
Unknown
Right. The insurance shit. You know what I'm saying? Like it's deeper. This is deep. You know, like, even like, you know, MetLife or New York, one of them farms in, in New York, they insure slaves. That is a wild like, you know, you don't even think of. I'm sure you want to just put it down to the red rednecks by.

00;51;28;09 - 00;51;50;28
Unknown
Want me some, right. Trust it was some. But the nigga that's getting paperwork money off the insurance. I'm sure the the the would to bill the ships. It was like an industry and I would just listen to this. This dude's probably just. And he would just be smoking squares just right and gain you because let's be sued most black.

00;51;50;28 - 00;52;12;12
Unknown
We don't even know that who live in America. Oh, no, I didn't even notice it. Oh, no. They just want to just put it on some like Mississippi is so not is insurance is 50. Oh, I'll tell you what show you should should peep everyone peep the show. Oh my homie Tom Hardy show called taboo. Taboo came on FX shows.

00;52;12;13 - 00;52;41;13
Unknown
My boy Tom Hardy like that show was great. It's weird as fuck, but it's all about. Oh, I can't even spoiler but watch it. It's about the slave trade, but London's part in it and it like. And how the before the American Revolution started. Right. Great show. I was I was like, please bring that shit back. And it's a great great great show taboo, taboo and all that shit.

00;52;41;13 - 00;53;05;14
Unknown
But it goes down to like how people were making money, like the, the Royal, the Royal Indian Trading Company, you know, because same thing with India. Yeah. The whole thing over there with the East India Company, the East Indian Trading Company. Trading company. Right, right. That that's the the show's about. So it was like even with, with the Brits and India savvy how they did them.

00;53;05;17 - 00;53;24;01
Unknown
Savage. Oh yeah. Very savage. That is crazy. Well every time you look back at you like how they went in China doing shit Savage, right? Like, you know, they the whole time was the sun never sets on the British Empire. Yeah. That shit, like, all over the world. So the sun ain't ever going to set only because they own America.

00;53;24;03 - 00;53;43;01
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. Where it is. Islands, Australia, the Caribbean, Caribbean running it. Yeah. Even well I mean not, not Canada I mean. Well yeah. Kenneth Kennedy we talked about the Queen. The Queen is on the money. Oh right. Yeah I'm thinking I think like the French speaking side but not good. Right. They split it like Nova Scotia, all that shit, like.

00;53;43;03 - 00;54;03;03
Unknown
Yeah, they ran that shit. Yeah. They still. Yeah, even still have the queen on the money and shit, right? Yeah. That's just crazy. So taboo technically is about Tom Hardy's character, or he was inherited this one little sliver of land in between, like Newfoundland. And that made the tree trace real good. I don't spoil it for you. Just check it out.

00;54;03;03 - 00;54;22;17
Unknown
Yeah. Damn, bro. But all that shit has just been building. Just been building on me. You know, I think coming over here pre smartphone, having the stickiness. Yeah. No having to hustle just to make it happen. You can't call home. You can't. Hey Venmo me. Is it a now you have to be out here on your own. You got to actually get money.

00;54;22;21 - 00;54;41;29
Unknown
Money again. You know. No there's no e money. You know what I'm saying. Yeah. And that was before the euro hit. So you just be you had to convert your money all the time. All the time, you know, gotta, you know, I'm saying like I'm a I'm a like you. You should be able to like, go hard in the Netherlands because the guilder was always weak as fuck.

00;54;42;02 - 00;55;14;24
Unknown
It was the guilder was weak. The the French money was, but British pound was crown back then. Oh. So if you got British pound, it was double as double. It was like, how does it go? Giga Deutschmarks, a pound is $0.50 in America. Damn, that 1 pound is $0.50. It back then it was like it was double American dollar was weak compared to that.

00;55;14;27 - 00;55;33;18
Unknown
That's very weak. And then when the euro came, the dollar was then first that first year that the euro hit dollar was strong as fuck. So you came over here let's. Oh so you you at the time we use here, you was having a great time used by having to. That was the time when I was getting three paychecks.

00;55;33;20 - 00;55;49;24
Unknown
Oh shit. And you was extra living niggas. So then. Yeah, you was at one up. You probably go going every single country. Fuck you. He's right. Oh my God. Let play with the Serbia be world. No I ain't got. That's fine. No, he's like I ain't while I ain't got. No. That would be real shit. That is why that time not a blur.

00;55;49;24 - 00;56;07;10
Unknown
But it's like it was crazy. Yeah. And that's what I'm saying. Like, I guess I am calling the Dave Chappelle because I don't need millions of dollars, you know? So I was kicking as a regular as dude, which is good that way, because then you can access things that are, you know, unacceptable to people that are at that level.

00;56;07;12 - 00;56;22;21
Unknown
Yeah. But then at me, I get it where you need, hey, make sure the guy is not pay the room. I'm making phone calls. Yeah. Even even with me now, like, you know, I have a, like a agent now. Now. Congrats on that, bro. I man, but it's like they're just technically you can be your own agent. True.

00;56;22;21 - 00;56;44;16
Unknown
Because it's like with casting because all they do is they go on the website they put in. Oh, this role might be for casting notice casting. Net word network, just access and you can log on to that shit yourself through and submit for yourself I guess. Is that prestige or just saying my agent you know and no and no and I'm and that's what I'm saying.

00;56;44;16 - 00;57;09;28
Unknown
You put the conversation the whole game. I told you this before, the game is changed. Now that the entertainment game that we in this comedy game, whatever, I will feel my skill set is being able to see the future. I saw this shit when I was in LA five years ago. Like this is dead. Okay. So yeah, because to if anyone doesn't know, you been in a comedy game for a while, you like you basically OG bro.

00;57;09;28 - 00;57;27;10
Unknown
You okay now? Yeah. I mean, I, I'm look I'm like, damn, I'm old, you know, you og level you old you I've seen some your stuff and who you like. You know performing with like the uncle. All these people og yeah. Like over 20 years. Oh, yeah. See you going to 23, 24 years I've been doing this. So what was some of the things you noticed that was like in the future at the time?

00;57;27;10 - 00;57;51;06
Unknown
Like say when you say LA, like it was years ago? I left Chicago. My daughter is going to be I do everything by. My daughter is born. This shit is she's turning eight. So I left Chicago. Maybe I would say almost nine years ago now. Okay. And I moved to LA, and because I, I kind of outgrown Chicago.

00;57;51;08 - 00;58;13;09
Unknown
Chicago's. If you want to start comedy and you live in the state Chicago, I would say, is the place to start comedy. I have heard from many people. Saint James. Yeah. See all those people you will get amazing. Stage time is a great community of comics. Is not that fuck pressure of the industry that New York and LA have, right?

00;58;13;09 - 00;58;38;05
Unknown
You can just work on your shit in front of real crowds of real people. That is in the middle of the country is enough. South is enough, North is not. So you getting a good mix of America? Com yeah. Of America not just New York and you know. Right. American audience. Right. And then you were supposed to like okay I outgrew this.

00;58;38;08 - 00;59;05;29
Unknown
Either I'm going to LA to be on a TV show or they did it. Or I'm one in New York just to work on the comedy shit, try to get into clubs and shit clubs, and then that leads into this Comedy Central there. Yeah, yeah, Premium Blend or anything like, oh, they should be, oh, 30 minute special or not necessarily because you maybe can get that in L.A. but I'm saying back then like the late night shows, but the game is so there's no, there's no such thing as late night TV anymore.

00;59;05;29 - 00;59;26;07
Unknown
They still have TV shows, right? Anybody watching ain't got no Letterman show no more like Letterman's. The the prestige of late night is gone, right? Anybody watching that shit, even when you post your clips of I was on, Seth Meyers, I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's kinda like, that's nice, that's nice. Yeah. Like that does not happen. I made Letterman, yeah, I made Johnny Carson.

00;59;26;08 - 00;59;41;26
Unknown
Yeah. They. David. Yeah, I was able to sit on a couch after I done with my cell. That's when you go. That's. Yeah. Once you do that, you like the ending? I was on the couch, like, what's up or. Or you make it to to LA to get a sitcom. Oh, yeah. You get a writing. Yeah, or I do.

00;59;41;28 - 01;00;00;18
Unknown
This is done. Yeah. Or even go to Jfo and then, like, you know, I think David might be coming back this year. New phase did it. But even those comedy festivals ain't what they used to be. Because you go to JFL, actually, the agents and managers come, they go to the new faces. I want to pick that guy.

01;00;00;23 - 01;00;16;28
Unknown
Yeah. That's just did. Yeah. Unless you have something written already, like if you had like a pilot or something in your hands, like you have to have, like preparation, like did in Edinburgh even is too much is too saturated. Yeah, it's expensive too. And I went I did I did it at the end of the summer. This past summer.

01;00;16;28 - 01;00;31;00
Unknown
It's not I do like three days and it's on last minute too. Oh should I, shout out to my boy Ali Noor from, from the UK. Met him in Paris. He's like, oh, come up to Edinburgh. We should do like. All right. I haven't, I haven't got my ticket yet. I'll do it and go head home.

01;00;31;03 - 01;00;48;11
Unknown
Great shows packed but it ain't the the feeling wasn't the same or what I was saying, but it's like it's not. I'm going to get discovered. People come up, go there to be discovered. You go to festivals to be discover. You go to festival to have a breakout show. Oh, I'm going to I'm going to get a baby reindeer.

01;00;48;15 - 01;01;07;19
Unknown
Yeah, I'm going to be the next fleabag. They did a lecture. This is it. So I noticed the change when I was when Hannibal, I left Chicago to go to LA to work on Hannibal show why? That was on Comedy Central. Got canceled at the first season. Damn right. And that's when I was like, oh, shit, I'm on of work.

01;01;07;19 - 01;01;25;23
Unknown
Shows get canceled like those, you know? I knew that, like, because you got you're like, oh my God, you L.A., you go to the show. I had an office at the Paramount lot. Oh, bro. Yeah, of course you was like, I made it. I'm like you. You had like, that's for nine weeks. I made it, and it was nine weeks.

01;01;25;23 - 01;01;50;09
Unknown
Oh, that's a teaser right there. That's the summer camp, nigga. Oh, that's such, I'll be so angry like, yo, I just got this shit. Well, I realized, like, this show's not working. It's not, you know, the show. He'll tell you. He talks about the show now, and it was not a good look. First of all, it was too many fucking people to want to make that show.

01;01;50;11 - 01;02;11;08
Unknown
And it was just not worth it. And you look I was on the Paramount lot. We said this on the Paramount lot and bro it was like Ghost Town and this is, this was nine years ago B I think it was a ghost town. A pan wasn't like what it was like. I've been on Warner Brothers Paramount lot maybe 15 years ago.

01;02;11;08 - 01;02;38;12
Unknown
Yeah. Bustling over there, walking around. This show is being made. That show is being made. This being made, that being made. Yeah. It was a ghost town nine years ago today. Triple ghost town post strike. Oh, yeah. Host. Dude, it ain't like that. Ain't nothing being made in Hollywood no more. Damn. So, you know, riding on a wall like, you know, saying worth it.

01;02;38;14 - 01;02;55;11
Unknown
I mean, what you doing? That's what you do at that point. Because, I mean, that's that that must be deflating to, like, be on a show. No, no, I mean, that's what I was like. And then I had that, you know, I had a kid come and I was like, this shit is. And I realize and I was living at the Laugh Factory apartments on Sunset Boulevard.

01;02;55;13 - 01;03;18;05
Unknown
Okay. Right. Jamie Masada, who owns the Laugh Factory, knew me from Chicago and just took a shine into me because he would come on my radio show. And when the Laugh Factory opened in Chicago, it was new, new. And I was there from the beginning. And he could depend on me. The murder. Yeah. Like, because he would do he'll do like he would expect.

01;03;18;08 - 01;03;38;10
Unknown
Rest in peace, Bob Saget to come do Saturday night, Sunday night. And Bob wouldn't show up to Marlon wouldn't show up. They were like, I do. I'm not going to do that. Right? Yeah. So he'd be scram like Buddy Babylon. Can you do 45 minutes strong? I'm like, yeah, let's do it. Nice. So he that happened like three times after that.

01;03;38;12 - 01;03;59;10
Unknown
These are let's do good. He's good. It's so I remember he just took me under his wing. This is I had never I was still living in Chicago so I would always go to LA every four months, five months just for 4 or 5 days. And I got to go up at the Laugh Factory. In Hollywood.

01;03;59;10 - 01;04;17;25
Unknown
And my girl before that. My girl. You ever heard of crack? My Thursday crack. Come on Thursday. That sound familiar? That's one that's on the Comedy Store. That's been going over 20 years. Like the black. Yeah, because the workout room upstairs. My girl in the show, Murdock, who went to college with me, just Michelle Murdock last nice. Like one of my, like, baby sister.

01;04;17;25 - 01;04;36;27
Unknown
Right. She got me on the Comedy Store. Right. And I'll see you. Yeah. You make a run. I just, you know, just got there. And then after a while, like, maybe that's when I first I was like, 4 or 5 years later, I was doing a little bit better. Met Jamie. I remember I was driving down sunset. They put me on the Laugh Factory.

01;04;36;29 - 01;04;57;01
Unknown
I was like, yeah, come to this club, we'll set you up all weekend. I was wrong and I was this new day, not new. But you know, my first time really being in LA like, yeah, but that's great to be in those clubs like right there like that is good. But that's after like, you know, but I had worked 19 years but still bro, you got motherfuckers that work that long and still don't get it.

01;04;57;02 - 01;05;20;05
Unknown
Yeah. Understandably. I remember I'm driving down sunset in the daytime and I had a show later, the factory that night, and I'm driving and I look at the the laugh actor. I turned to laugh and looked at Laugh Factory, and I saw my fucking name on the marquee. And I almost crashed. I was like, yeah, I was on the break.

01;05;20;05 - 01;05;43;11
Unknown
And again, like, oh the fuck is going on? I made it. And this was before there was like letters, you know, this before it was digital, right? Yeah. And I was like, it was like big laser. It was like it was. It was like Brian mama. And, big names. Yeah. I'm like, oh, shit. Yeah. That was like.

01;05;43;13 - 01;06;02;25
Unknown
So he. That's how he knew me. So he, you know, when I got to LA, I was like, I'll see some friends. Like, I need to give me an apartment. Jamie gave me one of them apartments. That last factory, no windows. It's just a door and a window in the bedrooms. Like a big studio. Whatever it was, it was.

01;06;02;29 - 01;06;19;27
Unknown
I was the most depressed I've ever been in my life. Because of you. Because of all that happened, that it was like, you know, it was like, oh my God, I don't have a really a job. I think I got this baby on the way. Oh, well, I mean, the chick I don't really know like that. You know, look at the.

01;06;20;00 - 01;06;41;07
Unknown
No, it was it, no need for, no need for apologies on Tinder. Tinder, baby. Yeah. That that that's a real. Yeah. As a real thing. Tinder baby. You know this, you know what I'm saying? And I just really, I didn't really, really like I hate L.A.. You hate. I hate it with a passion. There is a lot of reasons why I hate it, but, yeah, because it's like, do you need something going on to be.

01;06;41;09 - 01;06;58;09
Unknown
I feel like you definitely. I mean, I actually had something. I had something more going on and a lot of money, like. It's true. You feel me? And this is before Uber and Lyft, so. Oh, and the only thing is Uber and Lyft just. I didn't have a car. So Uber and Lyft just kind of was there right on time for me.

01;06;58;09 - 01;07;13;21
Unknown
Yeah. Oh, she's making good money. If you go into Uber and Lyft. At that time I didn't I mean, I didn't. What do you mean like because Uber and Lyft and when it first came out, like the pay out and stuff I tried doing, but I was like I was using them, I use you. Oh, okay. So I didn't have no car.

01;07;13;24 - 01;07;31;14
Unknown
Oh, right. Right. And not having a car in L.A is a death sentence. Yeah, bro. But when Uber and Lyft came out, you can kind of like, okay, I don't need the car because they'll get to where I need to be. You know, technically, it almost added up outside of a car. No gas insurance kind of was the same price.

01;07;31;14 - 01;07;54;26
Unknown
So it wasn't that bad. But I lived on sunset and lower right at the last factory. I wake up. It'll be 73 degrees every day. Sunshine, and I'll walk to the coffee bean up the street. This is every day. I will do this. I'll see Chris D'Elia in his coffee bean, and he'll be, like, fake reading a book.

01;07;54;29 - 01;08;12;14
Unknown
He'll be saying it was, you know, people just see coffee, fake writing, celebrities be writing scripts, and people at a coffee house, like, all right, I'll say Chris is reading the book of the company. Like. Like, what are you doing here? Are you Richard? What are you at this coffee bean? Yeah. Hey, like, what are you doing up here, right?

01;08;12;14 - 01;08;30;20
Unknown
I mean, hey, Chris. Oh, hey. Bills up here, and it would be like it turned to a Truman Show. Like the same shit every day. You can't write jokes out there because there's nothing going on. You can't write just nothing. You can't. You can't write jokes in L.A.. It's impossible. Early because you're not living life, I guess.

01;08;30;20 - 01;08;49;01
Unknown
So you so shielded from a lot of shielded from, you know, you hear, you walk around, you seeing shit. They did. They do. Oh yeah. Yeah. From LA you either in your car to where you got to go. You get in my car. Go back to where you home. You're not in the mix of shit. And there's no really neighborhoods where you can just.

01;08;49;03 - 01;09;11;05
Unknown
Right. Ain't that. It ain't that. Damn. It's impossible to write comedy up there. And I was doing shows at night, and my comedy was suck. And I'll go home and then. Oh, shit, the Chicago, it just come. Yeah. Because you live in life, you realize you the people's. And I was like, I gotta get out of here. So that's when I went.

01;09;11;08 - 01;09;31;27
Unknown
I started going to the San Francisco. I'm like, this is where I had my friends there, right? Shout out to my boy steroid. Hello. Funny crew. Nice. And they had stories like the Nino Brown write a fucking comedy in the Bay. So he had, like, shows every night at somewhere in the Bay. Oh, shit. I can go up whenever I want to.

01;09;32;00 - 01;09;58;15
Unknown
Like. There we go. This is. Yeah. Talking about LA is trash. I mean, trash. Oh, shit. As a person starting New York City, that is, hilarious trash. I mean, New York is, you know, I'll go New York. New York is what in New York is. And I always say New York is cool. Yeah, but even now, like, I wouldn't even do New York.

01;09;58;17 - 01;10;17;08
Unknown
Yeah. New York. I went back last year or so around September and broke that. Yeah, it felt different. It's way different. Like everything is more like, do you like to stand like, you know, and stand in, the bitch name? Who fucking booked it now? I mean, he used to be cool with me. When did it end? But now he's like, I don't know, like, man, fuck you.

01;10;17;08 - 01;10;31;13
Unknown
I ain't got time to be begging nobody to get on the stage. You never even pay me to. I'm just want to pop in and do some work, right? Like I used to call you when it was at the old spot and go up whenever I want to. Yeah. That's unfortunate. Black was downstairs, but now they got a new stand.

01;10;31;13 - 01;10;49;01
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, they they actually knock that building down. It used to be next to that, the Irish, bar. Yeah, yeah. That was. Oh, man, that was a great room. Nice tight, low ceiling, everything. Yeah, I mean, so now it's like even New York is like, what am I doing? So that's why I'm saying I saw early I seen it Wu-Tang, Raekwon I seen it.

01;10;49;06 - 01;11;14;13
Unknown
So hold on. What made you start traveling out here to Europe? Because I feel like that's like the for me person. That's like a new thing. Like it feels like a comedian starting to like, come out to Europe and perform like, what was the was that like the catalyst that made you start thinking about performing a year? Well, even even for three years ago, I would either I would always be in Europe in some form or fashion two times a year.

01;11;14;16 - 01;11;34;17
Unknown
Just kicking it, traveling with some friends, hanging out, whatever. And it wouldn't be common. I remember I looked up in Paris like, damn, he was big Tommy. I think it was like French fried comedy. Oh, yeah. It's like maybe one show back then, right? And, and I think they were either booked or something. They want to try you next time.

01;11;34;19 - 01;12;01;17
Unknown
So when? Three years ago. This is my third year doing this. I came in like, the same time came in like January, February and February or whatever. Right. And you know, Tariq, do we get. So I remember, and I, I didn't know Tariq hit me on Instagram. So I remember last summer, this is going to he's from Buffalo.

01;12;01;19 - 01;12;17;07
Unknown
I remember he, he set it up for me. And I was like, I was like, dude, how we out drinking last summer? Like. Like, I don't even know you. Yeah, like, I know New York. Like, you know, like, we cool spot. We just hanging out. This is like, last summer, so we've been kicking it for, like, a year or so.

01;12;17;08 - 01;12;35;18
Unknown
Right? To. I'm like. Like, I don't even know you. Yeah. Like. Oh, hit you up on Instagram. I heard you on, Hannibal's podcast. And hit you up on Instagram, and, we just got cool. I'm like, wait a minute. Wow. My DMs. And we cool like this. Like. So he hit me up. Hey, man, my name's Tariq.

01;12;35;23 - 01;12;51;26
Unknown
I live in Berlin. I heard you talking about Berlin. So if you ever come out here, man, let me know. Wow, look at that. So he and I remember I met some dude. I went back, I said, hey, man, I'm coming to Berlin. If you help me set up a show. He helped me set up some little show at some workspace.

01;12;52;04 - 01;13;14;06
Unknown
Nice. And then after he had known about D.L. and his show at the. At the wall back there. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Shot a deal to go. Yeah, right. Maybe, bro, you know, and, he is hosting this like open mic and on Tuesday the some at the wall I remember I landed one of I met him there so I went to the wall that first night.

01;13;14;08 - 01;13;32;13
Unknown
I'm like it was a lot. Yeah. It was paneling. And they call it an open mic too. That'd be crazy, right? Yeah. You. But I think it is open mic. Does this show, this show going on there right there that, you know, crushed. And after that people just hey man, can you go to my show that I'm like, yeah, y'all doing like that over here?

01;13;32;14 - 01;13;46;20
Unknown
Yeah. Because you don't get that type of love out of the out in the States. Like you know people being very selective with they stage time. Yeah. I was like, why here to be like, yo, come on. Like we got it here for you, right? I was like, okay. So then I had a few shows set up on the I went to Geneva.

01;13;46;23 - 01;14;15;01
Unknown
Nice. I went to the spot and Brussels. I don't even think I did Paris that first time. Might have maybe. No, I did do pairs the two days. I'm like, y'all doing it like this. Oh shit. Okay. Yeah. I came right back four months later. Oh. Says he was like back at it. Like I was like, oh fuck that.

01;14;15;05 - 01;14;41;28
Unknown
So it's been my thing every four months. Four months. You come on, I come out here. Right. Great. I'm setting up the next one for, June, June for June, June. Yeah. Okay. Sure. Do some other stuff with the fashion, what I'm doing. But. Yeah, like real. And I realized this shit was bubbling up pre-COVID. The scene was bubbling pre-COVID and all the cities around the EU.

01;14;41;29 - 01;15;06;13
Unknown
Right. Covid happened. She got locked down when she opened back up. People were so thirsty to go out. English speaking comedy shows became a go to of something to fucking do. That was it. Right. And then from there everything just took off. Yeah. And then using that wave of like that wave. So like I think I came here two years after Covid.

01;15;06;13 - 01;15;24;16
Unknown
So it kind of really. Oh set in use. Perfect timing. It was perfect timing. So now I add a city every time I come here. So you come out and you look at us, you go to the typical cities and then you got additional city, the cities I already know. And then I add a city that's a good that's a good thing everyday.

01;15;24;18 - 01;15;50;06
Unknown
So in this in the summer or late spring I'm adding the Nordic, I'm going, Stockholm and Stockholm. Copenhagen. Copenhagen. Copenhagen. Yeah. Copenhagen. Yeah. So I'm doing those two and, you know, add two holiday amounts. And that's it. And is it, it's pretty pretty straightforward of what's poppin. You know what I'm saying is very straightforward of what's poppin.

01;15;50;06 - 01;16;18;19
Unknown
And and I think that because this market is so brand new and I'm selling somebody back home. These shows you get more bang for the buck versus America where it's black people white people Hispanics. Because I'm Indians. Yeah. Here is layers of just everybody everybody everybody. It'd be the most diverse shows you do even if it's a roomful of white people.

01;16;18;20 - 01;16;36;03
Unknown
Yeah. Already. Because you got the Balkans and you got like this that whatever that does. Yeah. And they got their own little things and you niche within there. And you know, at the end of the day this is my focus. This is a new frontier. This is I mean, I've done America. Yeah. You I mean, he said he was on a show.

01;16;36;03 - 01;16;57;18
Unknown
He's on Paramount. I mean, you pretty much did all the dreams of a comedian. It's nothing. It's unless it is dead. It's like, you know, like there's nothing I don't need. No three Arts or the arts to the tune. Yeah, yeah. Like, you know, tell people I don't need Dave Becky to be famous no more. You know, I don't need, you know, like, let you know Janelle James and all them, you know, shout out to Janelle James.

01;16;57;18 - 01;17;15;08
Unknown
Man. She she really should know. Yeah. You know I'm saying and I, I I'll, I'll say some stuff off camera for that. But you I'm saying like yeah nothing negative. No no no no no no no no no. But I'm saying it's like I'd be a perfect choice because I want, wanted three yards. I'm like, I ain't doing this.

01;17;15;10 - 01;17;28;10
Unknown
But this I like you talking about this because a lot of people because you know again I'm not 20 years old you know, and hearing from the other side like at the beginning kind of of like how people go to these like levels that people are trying to, you know, go to and then hearing like, oh, shit.

01;17;28;10 - 01;17;47;25
Unknown
All right. It may not be exactly what we envision. It's not what you envision and it's definitely way different. You know, like I said, I don't know, shade or nothing. I'm just being real. Okay. Like little real. Yeah. A little round traveler. Real came we came up the same time Chicago. You I'm saying don't Laura over 20 years right.

01;17;47;25 - 01;18;02;22
Unknown
You know I'm saying saying well have I know all these. Yeah. Over 20 years. I've known all these cats. Right. Well, the real started with three years. I don't know if he's. I think RV got his own little break up thing. So three Arts came to Chicago, they got Hannibal, and they got a little rail. That was a two.

01;18;02;22 - 01;18;23;19
Unknown
Dude. The guy from the West side. Right. You see what I went. Yeah. Right. Far. And then Janelle's a new. So you know I think after that Louis C.K. shit. Oh this is get black women. You know it's like you got to go with was safe right. Right. So there's that wave so literal. This is how different the game is.

01;18;23;19 - 01;18;44;13
Unknown
Lil Rel is no dis he pulse of the Army. I got the number one movie in America, right? That's dope. Yeah, right. Vedo. It's dope. I'm going to take nothing away from him for that. Right. But you see the movie that he got number one to know this the movie is, is a is an animated movie. He's just the voice of a detective dog.

01;18;44;16 - 01;19;07;25
Unknown
Okay. I don't know what movie is below me. It's like Moana 201 like Moana like if you, if you read what people say about the Momoa is the first one. Oh yeah. Great. Even for me like 1 or 2 lazy as fuck. The music sucks. Animation sucks because people trying to pinch every penny in Hollywood but still pump out trash.

01;19;07;28 - 01;19;27;03
Unknown
That puts so much budget into the budget on the animation. It's like, hey, we'll pay this actor the, the, the and the money that the actors are getting. Now, I was going down to wait and all that. You ain't getting it in the people they are allowing to make the money. That number is getting smaller to make it.

01;19;27;05 - 01;19;52;16
Unknown
They know. So then it's like really locking it down to like and that's we'll see, see people being and this guys and this, this, this, this right over and over and over the same role did it. And people still be buying a shit. So rails movie was number one, but the movie only made $32 million on a budget of like, I don't know what the budget was, okay, but 32 million, I guess for a number one movie, we took those usually a couple 100 million, right?

01;19;52;18 - 01;20;14;17
Unknown
You remember back when you used to be number one summer blockbusters? And that was even fuck that even because you know what? What? Kevin Hart and Ice Cube would do with, right along, but they would always put these movies out on MLK. Oh, that's why I never read that. And also that's like sort of the slowest time of the year.

01;20;14;24 - 01;20;45;28
Unknown
Yeah. Or Hollywood this February pre Oscar nomination. It it out right. This is like the weird time. Right. So that's even those right along movies will be making 150 mil number one. Right. $30 million for was the the box office at the time for like an indie movie. Some smaller 30 mil. Right. And you know, and it's number one that shows you the numbers showing the game is different.

01;20;45;28 - 01;21;07;28
Unknown
People ain't going to the movies number one. Yeah, not like that. Oh yeah. The one they're going is yeah. Just going straight to streaming. Right. Two. And the quality of product that people are cranking out now. Yeah. And you can find better shit now on like a TikTok on I'm telling you I'm more I said tell somebody like I laughed harder.

01;21;08;01 - 01;21;27;16
Unknown
Instagram Reels than I've ever laughed at anything SNL made in the last 20 years. And I'm. And I'm not. No. This. Yeah. And these be regular ass people, right. Do be creative is shit. Creative is like yeah. Oh my God. That's like. And as a as a comic fan, yeah, it should be some niche shit to you.

01;21;27;16 - 01;21;42;20
Unknown
Be like, yo, that's very specific. This is and you know, they get I know you going with this. Everyone else knows you going like, goddamn. Why not think of that? Yeah. You buy. Damn. Yo, maybe somebody random in a room. You like what? Bringing it? Yeah. You can't compete against that kid. That's just happening. That's happen.

01;21;42;20 - 01;22;13;01
Unknown
You can't compete against that. Yeah, bro. Life like doomscrolling whatever is funnier than anything. Oh, yeah. This is the point. Is it a point? I communicate with my sister primarily through memes. You know, I don't should just be funny and be carrying an actual message. You get it? Like, yeah. Oh, you communicate with 12 second, 32nd things, right that have more lasting impact than an hour and a half sick rom com, blah blah blah.

01;22;13;02 - 01;22;32;27
Unknown
Will will will that shit? Will you say like that? That shit is while I'm being. Yeah. And that's why call me the Oracle OG Wizard I see that, I see it, yeah, I see it. So I'm saying so for me now and I'm, you know, I'm, I'm a producer. I'm saying my I'm a producer and I'm still coming.

01;22;32;27 - 01;23;02;19
Unknown
I'm shooting it a at it all that. Right, right. It's all about content now. It's about content how you package content. So when I came over here. I was like, oh shit, it's a whole new market, a whole new market. And I'm saying, like, I'm coming over here looking for like TV shows, ideas that I can sell and package and shoot myself because you don't go, hey, I'm trying to, hey, Netflix, can you give me some money to shoot this?

01;23;02;19 - 01;23;17;29
Unknown
But no, no, you have to shoot it yourself. Have eight episodes in the fucking can give you money. Yeah, and shout out to insecure, right? The diaries of an awkward black girl. That's how she started, you know? I mean, another three yards. Another three yards product. Oh, shit. All right, then, I know that. Yeah. Oh, shoot. You know, come on.

01;23;17;29 - 01;23;33;29
Unknown
You know something's come on. All right. So I got. So I got two more questions for you. I know you got to go pretty soon, but, so first one is, you know, a lot of people that listen to podcasts, also comedians that are interested in this world and stuff. So what's an advice you would give to, like, a comedian starting out?

01;23;34;02 - 01;23;56;26
Unknown
I know there's a question most comics like to be asked, to be honest, but we in different times. So I feel like you as a wizard Oracle og, you know, may have some insight on to what, but what what what part? So you have to understand what what, frequency. You talking about less, frequency, I guess, you know, at the stage.

01;23;56;28 - 01;24;12;01
Unknown
No, no, no, the other stuff. I feel like the stage is something. And maybe it is me personally say that day. That's that's for someone to figure out by just doing. You got to do that. That's what I'm saying I can't. Yeah, that I had to have some rules on that. Like I gave, Was Shorty from Heidelberg name.

01;24;12;05 - 01;24;30;14
Unknown
Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah. Number one rule said they don't have. Stop saying nigga. Okay. You from Heidelberg, bitch? How dare you say niggers? What do you say, nigger? You're from. You're not even from Berlin saying nigger that much. You fell out. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's. You know, there's some, you know, there's some rules about the about to stand up like I gave her, like, a list.

01;24;30;14 - 01;24;54;09
Unknown
Like the status I give you real quick, stage presence. Number one. Number two. I said for six months, record just set, even if it's audio. And listen to it immediately after for random throwaway things that happen that people laughed at, that you didn't expect, write those down added into your set immediately and do it immediately. That's number one.

01;24;54;11 - 01;25;15;22
Unknown
Number two, don't do no crowd work when you're doing your set. A lot of comics now we'll start bombing and then oh yeah, that's great. So what's your name? What's your name? Get the fuck out of here. And. And now I've been, like, straight hating on crowd work because I'll say, hey, people didn't come here to hear, hey, I'm going to get dressed.

01;25;15;22 - 01;25;33;02
Unknown
Go buy some drinks here. What a what a strangers name. Is that what a stranger does for work? Fuck that. Right? Some fucking jokes. I'm old school OG. Okay. Old you okay? Old school. You like a whole square work all you want to. If you up there doing your set. Because the host probably has done that shit already.

01;25;33;04 - 01;25;46;20
Unknown
What I hate is when I see a host do that shit, and then someone go right up after. Oh, so where are you from? We just. Oh, that. Yeah. That is that is very annoying. That is very, you know, you just fucking heard that. And you can see the crowd being like, yo, what? Yo were you. Was that.

01;25;46;26 - 01;26;02;23
Unknown
Well, yeah. We went through this. Yeah. Where are you from, where you from like. And then it's like, you know, like, do you bang shit up top? Oh wait, you know what I'm saying? Like. And then, like, how do you write jokes? I say, how I write jokes is I'm always listening and always looking at dumb shit for dumb shit.

01;26;02;25 - 01;26;25;14
Unknown
Funny. That's dumb as fuck. You be at the stool. Oh, that's dumb, right? Write that thing down. Whatever you wrote down in your phone notes as the dumb thing that happen usually is the punchline. Or the set up to a punchline. Right, right to it or like backwards from it. And try it out some shit I, I've wrote down.

01;26;25;14 - 01;26;52;06
Unknown
That's hella dumb. Don't laugh. Try it, put it off. Put it aside. Yeah. Because that sometimes might not be a joke for the stage. But in this age of comedy it's content. Seeds for a real content, seeds for a lot of different things. You can now put a dumb idea into ChatGPT say, hey, write me a rap about this.

01;26;52;09 - 01;27;12;22
Unknown
Look at that rap. It'll get you there. There you, me. And I said, oh, that's cheating. Oh, it ain't you ain't. This is using like it's like this information, your stage presence, your delivery is going to make it funny. It's still your idea. The computer's help you shape it. That's a controversial thing right there, man, as I'm a.

01;27;12;22 - 01;27;46;18
Unknown
You're not. It can't go. So tell me. Well, it's not going to do that, right? You have to do the joke because this your C ChatGPT isn't writing things for people, it's just giving you. And also artificial. It's not artificial intelligence. It's not a, artificial intelligence. Something. Listen, this is how I feel. Yeah, I'm saying all ChatGPT is, is a fast as search engine, organizing things fast and from a lot of different places and giving it to you in a more presentable way out of recognition.

01;27;46;18 - 01;28;04;13
Unknown
Sure. Yeah. It's not just making sure the bot is is searching through everything, right? And organizing stuff fast as fuck. That's why it's taking so much juice and bandwidth. Yeah, because it's going through all that shit and cranking it out for you, right? That's all that is. So that's my that's my advice on the stand up. Okay. Advice.

01;28;04;13 - 01;28;30;29
Unknown
Understand. Understandable. Okay. And then in terms of just the business side of it, the business of it is, is that for me I feel I have more power because of my independence. And you know, I got my my manager now is my boy Curtis who runs a laugh at his Chicago and I, you know, I let him be my manager because I remember Curtis when he was an intern.

01;28;31;01 - 01;28;51;07
Unknown
Now he runs a laugh factory. He's like my little brother now. Oh shit amount. And he works for Artists first. Who has who does comedy. Right. So if I'm gonna let somebody manage me, it's going to be somebody I fucking know and trust, right? You know what I'm saying? My agents, it's a black agency. Shout out to ASAP, talent agency.

01;28;51;10 - 01;29;10;16
Unknown
And they are just agents who just finds me stuff and whatever. I have that in the back because I have somebody who can send you stuff. Or. Now, if you want to get into acting or whatever commercials, just go to Actors Access and fucking do that shit yourself and submit and all they're doing just all they're doing.

01;29;10;23 - 01;29;33;20
Unknown
You do your own self take you ain't gotta be in LA or New York to do auditions no more. You can do it from anywhere. Like the the, the commercial I did for the Dollar Shave Club. I did that first audition in Edinburgh at the Hotel, and then the callback I did, I had to do at the airport in the terminal on a zoom, and I had my phone on a garbage can earbuds.

01;29;33;20 - 01;29;46;23
Unknown
But I do this. I'm like, and I did it. And they're like, that's why we hired you, because you did that. I didn't go to the fucking airport. Nail that shit. I'm like, that's crazy, because I was about to miss that flight. They're like, sir, come on. I'm like, okay, guys, got gotta go and got on the plane.

01;29;46;25 - 01;30;11;11
Unknown
Wow. That's is how it is now. You ain't gotta go to nobody's office. So it's even easier now than it was back then. You got tools, you got ChatGPT. You have all these AI tools I can help you edit, help you do shit yourself. You know I'm saying there's playbooks on how to do this shit. Yeah. You know and then last but at least be fucking funny right.

01;30;11;12 - 01;30;33;05
Unknown
Yeah. That's it. I, I will have to say like, there's a lot of people out here that just ain't funny. That is still doing that shit. That is true and is either are you autistic or just relentless? You know, like or both or both or both. It's it's it's, you know, it's every city I go to, like in Paris.

01;30;33;05 - 01;30;57;16
Unknown
It's like Jesus Christ, there's some people like, but they be running, running shows. You know, I'm saying they, they have a show. Do they run in? So they even hear to like this. People who run shows that are straight trash. But they run an a show, they do that one thing that you had to do and stick stand up is you have to own real estate within a scene to have credibility, to meet people.

01;30;57;19 - 01;31;13;08
Unknown
A lot of real a lot of times these people, that's they on these days time. So that's why they show is horrible. Right. I used to want to show in Chicago but I had other stage time. So I wasn't just up there just doing, trying to do all my material right and not bringing people up.

01;31;13;11 - 01;31;35;02
Unknown
That's what that is. Yeah. That's. Yeah I mean that's always a good reminder I think it needs to be said of just being funny and like keeping that in mind. I mean you y'all are young you know that I'm older. So use your youthful energy to get out there and meet people. Network. Don't be an asshole. You know, like I'm I just have a young spirit so I can just let them up.

01;31;35;02 - 01;31;49;07
Unknown
Friends with my age, like, yeah. What life do you live? You can you be you be out here, bro. I me yeah. You be out here. I can like you know I'm saying like, you know. So even like with my boy basket mouse. That's a basket in Nigeria. No, I'm saying like the African scene. You know what I'm saying?

01;31;49;07 - 01;32;09;12
Unknown
With my fashion branding and, South African and Johannesburg, they have a scene. So now I'm about to, like, infiltrate that scene. Oh, shit. So I'm saying, like, get aggressive with that overlay, travel and going to different places and going to different places, like it's a lot of, like my, my little protege Carthage. So Carthage out there, there.

01;32;09;12 - 01;32;31;23
Unknown
Yeah. He's like he's, I saw him like and there's a lot of cats that I've seen two years ago that I've seen people like this and some people this and some people like. Yeah, he's nice. This dude named Randy. Randy, Randy from where he lives in Paris now. Okay. He's like from the from the Caribbean. Like he play ball somewhere in Illinois.

01;32;31;23 - 01;32;52;05
Unknown
But I did a show with him at the at the army base. Oh, nice brother Randy. Got it. Where? Randy I was, my boy Randy got it. My eyes, bro, where I was like, oh, is that my shit? He's like, oh, hey, let me look on my notes. Yeah. Like Randy got it. Like I'm saying, like knowing who funny knowing who.

01;32;52;09 - 01;33;08;00
Unknown
It's like high school and know the popular table. Top of the table who looks funny. Yeah, it's the jocks who's the, you know, chats with the nerds. Some people is better at content and and and, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Like all that shit and aggressively. I'm not saying I have no smart boy because my smart boys up here.

01;33;08;00 - 01;33;33;24
Unknown
But, like, seeing the bigger picture and aggressively going after this shit. And last but not least, children, your murder rate has to be high. I'm talking about like, I'm not even sucking my own dick like I try to keep my murder rate up to, like, high 90s. Every time you go on stage, I'm going to fucking this for people in the audience.

01;33;33;26 - 01;33;54;25
Unknown
Or 400 I give no fucks got killed. Me. I'm saying like what I like. How many do people? I've done shows in San Francisco. Every place. Like it'd been like four people. The room been dead to kill? I want to kill it. Yeah. You have to watch this. People, like. Like this was a show, at the army base in, Wiesbaden.

01;33;54;27 - 01;34;15;15
Unknown
Right. For, Aaron, let this guy Kenny gyros and he really not a host. So he was his hiring but I'm, I'm talking like this. He would be talking like this that he was starting the second half and people be talking in the audience. He started doing his jokes. I'm like nigga if you don't reset this room like but he don't know.

01;34;15;18 - 01;34;36;27
Unknown
Yeah. He you know. Right. So I had to like to get the room back. I had to roast him real quick. Not like, hey, y'all give it up for John. This motherfucker up here like he's doing a horrible ass PowerPoint presentation. Okay. I'd want people felt that. Yeah, they're like, talk up. Like, you know, I'm saying. Yeah. Murder rate every time.

01;34;36;27 - 01;34;51;12
Unknown
Every time. No one had to take it from there to there. That's. Yeah, that's OG shit right there. Any OG that I know that been in the game and stuff. They know how to do that shit. Like you look at teams. Got it. Yeah. But that's what I'm like. That's why I'm looking at like the on Kohl's little rails.

01;34;51;12 - 01;35;11;06
Unknown
You know what I'm saying. Like even on the white side you know like TJ Miller or people that come up. You know I'm saying that's a Chicago thing where you know how to the good ones the greats, you know how to take it to the fucking next. Not to take it to take it there. Straight up and down like it's not it's not.

01;35;11;06 - 01;35;26;22
Unknown
No it's not. There's no question about it. You'll stop. You might be chill on that thing. But when you go on that stage boom you got to do you ain't got to be is I got the uncle is. Yeah I learn it and I learned it from being on like, oh yeah, with a notebook. We used to have it up the book, nigga, I ain't got a screen.

01;35;26;22 - 01;35;46;10
Unknown
The, giving us game just yo aura, I the kids about aura. He got that. Yeah, he got that. Or have an aura. That's a crazy being in Def Jam comedy with a notebook or something like a hold on anybody like that didn't work. You know, this is not you, by the way. That's. Yeah. You think that's why that's a good then those are some good points right there.

01;35;46;10 - 01;36;09;14
Unknown
And I'm pretty sure what people listen is out here in a European. See it's going to definitely help them out. Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. Could that crowd work shit out. Hahaha. And I and I'm be real like I, I told like I told you like only time you should do crowd work if it's for a reason. If I do, anything that interacts with the crowd is for a reason.

01;36;09;17 - 01;36;24;06
Unknown
Not just to just, you know. And I have to tell you. Yeah, like, make it stop. And this is a thing like him. The things I don't like. Okay. Here. Stop making the crowd give it up for this. Give it up for yourselves. Give it up for it up. Give it up, give it up, give it up for this.

01;36;24;06 - 01;36;43;15
Unknown
Give it up. Make it people clap for nuts like dogs. Stop making people give it up. You are. Say that for laughs. You just 11 people. Expel all that energy for nothing, just for giving it up. And you've said it five six times already. Random. Give it up for this. Give it up for it up, give it up, give it up for person.

01;36;43;21 - 01;37;06;08
Unknown
You do crowd work. Give it up. That person, fuck that person. They get on stage. Give up for the stranger who just told you they name and what they from. We going to give it up for them. Yo, The fuck is that? Oh my mama, what is that? Stop giving it up for no reason. Yo, I'm just bringing the next fucking comic up.

01;37;06;13 - 01;37;28;15
Unknown
Yo. Slightly guilty of that. Yo. You know, saying, like, stop giving it up for no fucking reason. God, yeah. Oh, shit. I'm slightly guilty of that. And you are saying that you my brother, man, I got each one to each one. No, no, thank you for reminding me on that. I like how you said it. You needed to say that way for me to be like, yeah, you say no.

01;37;28;15 - 01;37;48;29
Unknown
Yeah. Why am I, you know, given for you for answering questions. Oh, who is you? You ain't got none of this little hat money, nigga. The fuck is you saying to me? Cut that shit out sometimes. Same as I tell you, it's not talking so much. Bring the person up. Yeah, say some stuff. Did it a reset.

01;37;49;01 - 01;38;04;15
Unknown
I there's nothing wrong with a reset. Yeah. Because you need a reset. That's boom. Yeah. What's up. Who's with me right now. Y'all ready for the show. All right. Start climbing right now. Get up for boom right. Yeah I'm the room is hot already. Just bring up. They already bring him. I'm going to try to. Yeah. Is I just.

01;38;04;15 - 01;38;20;12
Unknown
And that comes with time. But it's like, I don't think y'all have seen a lot of times people haven't seen how it should be here to know how to do it. Yeah. And I have that angle. I'll be real. I have the luxury of seeing how it should be done. Have you seen you? I mean, you been in it?

01;38;20;12 - 01;38;35;22
Unknown
I've seen people I host. I'm a great host. Yeah. You know. Yeah. I'm not. I'm saying like I've hosted. I know how to host shows, right? I know how to feature it. You know it's coming. It's a different frequency right on the host. The different frequency on the feature. It's a different frequency on the guest spot. Oh, yeah.

01;38;35;22 - 01;38;52;15
Unknown
You need you need to you need to be aware. And you get you get aware by that. Like via trial by error, guest spot is I think someone gives you seven minutes. I like those sets because those are the sets that you had to practice for the days when you got to audition for. I've done a Letterman audition.

01;38;52;15 - 01;39;13;16
Unknown
I've done a late night audition. What has to be five, six minutes? Boom. Yeah. If you go one minute, one second. Over, over. No. Under. No. You have the timeout. Yo Laughs all that shit like for baskets show they like to do ten. Like okay I've done a ten on the nose I know. Does he know how much Laughs I get.

01;39;13;23 - 01;39;25;20
Unknown
They did it all right. And then my mind like I can't do that last joke I just ain't know right. Yeah. You still got to be thinking. You got, you got that compass in you to be like like that timer. Yeah. You know, I'm saying, like, so know how to feature. Know how to guess, but know how to headline, know how to house.

01;39;25;22 - 01;39;45;07
Unknown
Each one is a different frequency. Each one. Each one is a different frequency. Being aware of timing. You're aware of timing. Being aware the awareness in a room, the aura. Which are you? I feel like you gotta do rough rooms on that one. I feel like a rough room is what's going to really jar you. You be like, I, I thought was gonna be these jokes, but my focus really ain't with it, so you gotta know how to bring them.

01;39;45;07 - 01;40;01;23
Unknown
Then I. And also have the luxury of having enough material to know. Because when you see me go up, you see me. If you see me do the same set. No, bro, you be doing your own. You know, maybe like I picked, I do this. Yeah. Oh, right. No. You know what your clothes are? Jokes are. You know how to start, you know, in the middle.

01;40;01;28 - 01;40;22;23
Unknown
That's it. Yeah. You know, I'm saying it's not. You don't really have to, like, gauge on that shit. And it's there's one more thing else. It's really important that you guys figure that out, but it's like knowing what jokes work and knowing when to do them. You know, sometimes even I tell you, this is a good one. Yeah.

01;40;22;26 - 01;40;40;28
Unknown
Before I go up, if I'm watching this show and I see it a lot of times, also, when you do a lot of unnecessary crowd work that trains the audience to think that this is somehow about them, it makes them think like, oh, I came here to be talk to talk back. No you didn't. You came here to hear my fucking tell joke.

01;40;40;28 - 01;41;03;09
Unknown
Shut the fuck up like something. What I hate is when the crowd working that somebody else is starting to tell them too much. Well, actually, I did my undergrad here and another blah, blah, blah like this. This is not a meet and greet. Slightly guilty of that, too late. I think you talk too much. Yeah. Or people just start blurting out, so I now I when I see somebody blurting out a lot, I had to do this and Brussels.

01;41;03;11 - 01;41;21;26
Unknown
I have one joke that I save for people who talk too much. Then I can do a callback. Oh, she'll have a joke about, I'll say, when are they gonna come on? That Xanax missed, Xanax missed. You know, Xanax is, you know. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. When I'll come out with Xanax, but in a mist form, you can just spritz.

01;41;21;28 - 01;41;38;20
Unknown
Condoms. Yeah. Just, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. And I say that joke sometimes on purpose. If I see somebody talking a lot in a show. Right. So they want to come on that Xanax miss. You know I'm saying like a miss you can spritz on muffins when they talking too much. Haha. Set it down.

01;41;38;24 - 01;42;06;07
Unknown
Shut them down. Yeah. We don't engage with people when you set the tone like the saying about you don't. I don't. You set the tone. Yeah. It's about setting that tone, dog. And you got to set the tone. You got to do. So okay, this is the last question. Last question. Promise. So you've been through many different things in this 20 years of comedy, but then also too, I mean, more years and you just traveling from America to Europe, all these different places, these experiences.

01;42;06;10 - 01;42;26;21
Unknown
And if you just go back to young yourself, what would be the number one advice you give to your younger self? Buy bitcoin when you should have, you dumb motherfucker. Back when it was $80, you dumb bitch. $80. Damn, I remember I was so it was. We were. It was a show in L.A. called meltdown.

01;42;26;23 - 01;42;43;16
Unknown
Well, Camille and Jonah was one of the better shows in LA. Look at a comic book store. Oh, shit. And they had a Bitcoin vending machine. You can that Bitcoin vending machine. You can buy Bitcoin at a kiosk. Oh I remember those. Yeah. Yeah. They had that big square and show about this. And I was like what is it.

01;42;43;19 - 01;43;01;26
Unknown
I was like I was like a digital currency. I'm like what is that I like, do you get something because I have money? Well I yeah, I should sound stupid if I bought one. Thank you. You have been like. Yeah. Up by like 70 K. Yeah. You used to buy pizza with like just like bitcoin crazy. You know what I'm saying?

01;43;01;26 - 01;43;20;03
Unknown
Like I'm on one about I should have bought bitcoin back today right. Two you should buy the United stock but you can't you can't go back. Oh shit like that. So I it was like I'm not going to say I wouldn't do anything different because of course people have you know regrets. But you shouldn't have really, really regrets unless.

01;43;20;03 - 01;43;40;16
Unknown
Oh damn, I should that date that bad bag of coke. You did. So I was like, you can't really do a lot of regrets because it is what it is. And you just got to, like, ride it out. Yeah. Your decisions are the decision, and your decisions are what make you who you are at that point. And then you just pivot and I'm still having a good life, I have fun, sure.

01;43;40;19 - 01;43;57;08
Unknown
I like that Bitcoin money. Sure. When I've like that United stock money. Sure. But you know, I think I was doing it when I got to do you know. Right. And you really making it work man. Have you seen how you move to I mean especially you know as OG black dude doing comedy. Where you from? I mean, I was another black comedian here just seeing you, man.

01;43;57;08 - 01;44;10;07
Unknown
I mean, he's this very insightful and also to inspiring you just like, oh, you know, because it's one of the things we seem like, yo, if I'm moving out here, I, I guess if, if you don't it, then it can be done. It can be done. I'm not. I'm not rich at all. And I'm gonna be honest. Be honest with you.

01;44;10;10 - 01;44;33;15
Unknown
Is is how I live my life. Children, is this white privilege all right? What's what's, my life with white privilege? Okay. What does that mean? I'm. Do. What the fuck? I want. And, so how white boys live. Yeah, because I remember my. And I lived this last little anecdote, and my aunt, you know, my dad.

01;44;33;15 - 01;44;50;18
Unknown
Sister? My dad is my dad. My his sister was, you know, working class. And, you know, I was always go, I'm boujee, whatever. But I'm not too boujee not to go to yo yo cousin's house. They go to the tailor homes and shit. Yeah, yeah. Not if they lived there, like on the south south side. So they, you know, playing with real people, right?

01;44;50;18 - 01;45;08;25
Unknown
Yeah. I remember we were playing in summertime. I came back and I made, a pitcher of kool aid at our house, and I pretty much me and I kind of just crushed it. Yeah. She's like, who drank all this kool aid that we did? She was like, you can't come in here drinking our kool aid. Like yelling, let me about Kool aid.

01;45;08;28 - 01;45;34;21
Unknown
I'm gonna say, this is our money. We Beyonce and we I did it, and I'm like, hey, am I like, it's the kid who wear Armani suits? Like, oh, right. He's like, oh, this is just do you know this is strawberry dust? Chill, right, right. I said, okay. So I went out and I went to the store and I had allowance money, and I went to the store and I bought, whole strip strip made, like five packs.

01;45;34;21 - 01;45;55;21
Unknown
Yeah. The full flavor. Yeah. In the little case of kool aid. Yeah. About that. And about a 5 pound bag of sugar. And we walked back to the house right. And then I made some more Kool-Aid because you can't be like, why didn't I tell you not to be drinking all my Kool-Aid? I'm like, first of all, I just bought this Kool-Aid with my own money.

01;45;55;23 - 01;46;10;16
Unknown
Like, are you gonna charge me for the water or something? Like, yeah. And she looked at me and like, the gall of this nigga when I bought his own Kool-Aid. Yeah. You know how to process. You know how to process. Like she said this to me, I remember she said that. She's like, see, that's what's wrong with you.

01;46;10;16 - 01;46;32;07
Unknown
Your mama raise you like you white. Oh, I like what? I love of like you will be adding the adding white to skier things like, you see like. Yeah. You bought your own stuff. Yeah, yeah. White people say wants money. Like, I think the whole fact if you had allowance or, you know, the fact that you have the nerve to go, all right, you know what I'm saying?

01;46;32;12 - 01;46;48;27
Unknown
We did not put the drink Kool-Aid. Anything you want. Yeah, I know, and I'm always, always like that. All right, I'm gonna figure out a way to get this shit done myself. Like. Yeah, actually, one of my my first jokes. And this is the first time I ever one of the jokes and notes, and it's on YouTube. And then I was hosting.

01;46;48;27 - 01;47;05;11
Unknown
I still got it up there was a story I told in this back when you are supposed to do stories, when you start to start. Oh, right, right. But I did a whole joke about I had a carefree curl, a carefree curl, a curl, Jerry curl. Oh, yeah. Jerry. Okay, Jerry, you know, the curl, the carefree. Yeah. The the yellow bottle.

01;47;05;12 - 01;47;21;16
Unknown
Right, right. So, my dad, you know, you know, you have no curl, man. We ain't doing that, you know? Right? Oh, this is back during a time where, you know, the niggas had curls or like, come on, man, we have no Jerry curl. Yeah, we we ain't doing that right. I want a curl. He's I ain't paying for it.

01;47;21;17 - 01;47;45;14
Unknown
Like, okay, so the lady next door to my aunt's the Kool-Aid auntie where her next door neighbor was doing curls in her kitchen for like $25. Yeah, right. She'll give you a curl in her kitchen for $25 versus like $60 at the beauty shop, right? Oh, so I, I had my money. I knew that I had my money saved ready to roll.

01;47;45;14 - 01;48;01;00
Unknown
Right. Cause I'm a little spinning that over, you know, Marxism house I like. Okay, girl, it's just been our house and I had all set up. I say to my cousin, eeny meeny tell you, the lady next door, I'm come. I said, you know, got an appointment. Right? Okay. You sat me down. Yeah. The phone call. I you know, I'm doing it.

01;48;01;02 - 01;48;21;12
Unknown
My I'm like, yeah. All right. So there you go. With Armani suit on in there and up to the point of that curve. Yeah, right. There you go. Whenever her house got my curl right. And and I remember my mother came back. You got it. Okay. And I remember had. But these I wear like a shower cap. Oh yeah.

01;48;21;12 - 01;48;42;14
Unknown
To keep all the juice in it. All the juice in there. Right. Yeah. So I remember I got my curl and I was the joke was after I wanted a Michael Jackson curl. Like, I want like the T. He's right. The little lights. Yeah. Like this. Right. And I want it long. It's making me curl. And she tried to put the rods going this way.

01;48;42;16 - 01;49;01;28
Unknown
Okay. So what did I do. The Mason like this. Like. Oh, I want two rods this way. Right. To go like this. She's like, okay, so give me two. Right this way. I woke up, I thought, I'm going to take that bag off my. She was me. Make it look like a bunch of wet raisins. Oh, my hair are.

01;49;01;29 - 01;49;20;09
Unknown
Yeah. This is the ball is is tight. I was like, oh this stupid as hell, right. Damn. You had to cut that, you know, so that I could I put the put the shower cap on and I remember I was playing basketball and my next door neighbor's house, driveway, it had on a shower cap outside, and I'm on my dad.

01;49;20;11 - 01;49;26;20
Unknown
I'm at home. He's like, oh, no. He was like, he's like.

01;49;26;23 - 01;49;44;03
Unknown
Brian come here. Yeah. What's up dad? It's like, what is this? I'm like some kind of kernel. I was like, what? I mean, all that. Well, he paid for what is own money. You said you weren't gonna pay for that. He paid for itself. He was like. Okay, man. Right. Oh, shit. So, you know, you put the have activator.

01;49;44;08 - 01;50;08;14
Unknown
Yeah. Which is the cream. Right? And then the moisturizer was the spritz. Yeah. So this motherfucker confiscated my activator and moisturizer. She dried up. He's like, not me. You don't want no wet Jerry curl. You want your shit dry like willies from Diff'rent Strokes? I'm like, what? So every morning before school, he would regulate my squirts and I.

01;50;08;14 - 01;50;27;14
Unknown
This. This was a joke. I told a jokes and notes right. I remember Diane was sitting there like, yo. So? So if I was good, you gave me like, three good squirts. But he was mad at me. He did. I'm like, come on, man, juice my shit up, dog juice my curl up. Why you still you these squirt.

01;50;27;17 - 01;50;49;12
Unknown
Yeah. Oh, yo, you was living in a military household. What? Yo, boogie ass to escort me up, right? So then I was like, man, fuck this dude, man. So I still, I have a mind. So what I did was I went to school in the city. Yes. This black school, private school in the city. So I went when he was doing I says I don't know how to do this.

01;50;49;13 - 01;51;13;26
Unknown
So I took my allowance money. Yeah. And I went to the corner store for my own moisturizer I had in my desk in school like leaking. Can't keep my. So using a middle class like maybe you didn't come back at home. He was like, yo, why are you here looking like he's shit? Like Jesus was like, maybe. Yeah, I don't know what you talking about, but I'm gonna say that energy.

01;51;13;28 - 01;51;36;11
Unknown
Go get this way. I'm gonna do what I want. I'm gonna use my resources. Use your resources. Use, you know, be wise with your cash. Use it to. For your product. You a business, Brian? Babylon is a business. That's this. And Imma be real with you. He. I work for him, and he's the most annoying client. And my only, that's what I do.

01;51;36;11 - 01;51;50;08
Unknown
I work for this dude. See how I can. You know what I'm saying? Hey, you work on this, and I'm. I'm almost there. You just took me to get my ticket home. You know, I'm saying, he's your. You are your own client. That's a good way of saying that. I never heard. I never heard something like that.

01;51;50;11 - 01;52;10;12
Unknown
You know, if you have a manager agent, you are your secret, your managing your agent, bro. That's a good as that's a bar right there. That's real. That's some real shit. They don't sit back waiting for somebody to come. I fuck that. Hell nah, I will, I'm everything about. If I was really honest, I'm gonna be an actor.

01;52;10;12 - 01;52;28;19
Unknown
I'll be more aggressive looking for shit, right? I want to do that. I want to do some other shit. But if they call me, they give me some shit. I'll try. Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, you still got them. You to do, you know, to not let go, to strategize. You're shit smart and stay in your lane. That's the last bit of information for us.

01;52;28;19 - 01;52;50;24
Unknown
I stay and that's the everything I do. Even though it might seem grandiose, it's within a framework of reality of what I can actually do. You see what I'm saying. Yeah. I just could another my fuck this happened you know, because you ain't been doing it. I've invested my own money into this thing doing this shit.

01;52;50;27 - 01;53;07;09
Unknown
I you see how much money went. We ain't got no money on these shows. Yeah. I have made it in financial investment, thousands of dollars to put my client Brian Babylon in the European market. Right. Because I believe in him. And then you make that big investment which is I mean it's coming out. It's coming out. You kill on every show.

01;53;07;09 - 01;53;21;28
Unknown
So, I mean, people going in the comment, then, you know, I'm with my fashion brand. We'll talk about the next time we talk about it next time, bro. I mean, and that's really like and I started that in Berlin. Look bro, look at that. That was a year ago. I had the launch here at beta House. You know, the I was a lot of people there, you know what I'm saying?

01;53;21;28 - 01;53;37;12
Unknown
Like that. Don't sleep on this market. Yeah. Don't sleep on this market, bro. This has been a great salt I know I been hearing your name, I was good, good on. Oh, good time. All right. Cool I, I don't know because you got a lot of things going on. Oh we did a good. Yeah, but not this. Now this is, this is good, man.

01;53;37;12 - 01;53;55;15
Unknown
I think a lot of gyms like inside. But just hearing you just talk, I mean, any time OG is talking, you just going to pick up gems. You know, you just dropping that shit, you know, probably on accident. You know what I mean? Yeah, and it's real. It's not I, I'm real with. I'm try to keep it real as fuck because phony shit, it gets exposed after a while.

01;53;55;20 - 01;54;16;22
Unknown
It does bro. I get exposed, especially in this internet age. Know. And then within yourself, your craft. People see through fake shit. And when you see people on stage trying to do edgy material that they don't believe in, they won't get challenged. You can just tell you don't believe what you're saying. Yeah. That's why I can do seven minutes of n*** material.

01;54;16;24 - 01;54;36;06
Unknown
The that we did. Yeah. That was bro. That and that was I never heard of like do have that lengthy or even jokes about it in general. Don't even do the swastika bit. I left up the gas chambers. Was like a bitch. Christ. Well, good thing you were for me here in Germany. You got an audience for that?

01;54;36;08 - 01;54;49;19
Unknown
I know who that, Well, bro, thank you very much, man. My man, to say thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for listening and or watching the Third Quarter Talk podcast. I'm your boy. This is Brian Babylon, and I'll see you guys in the next one. Peace.