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The Average German, Shooting Film Internationally, and UK life w/ Clare Trelawny-Gower | Ep 90
Today I sit with Clare Trelawny-Gower. We talk about the The Average German series and the idea behind it. We talk about surfing, going to India. Also creating international films and Harry Potter facts.
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Music: "Chill Day" by Lakey Inspired
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Today's guest is Clare Trelawny Gower.
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She's a British journalist and filmmaker
living in Germany, creator of the average
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German series on DW or the Deutsche
Welle, as they call it here in Germany.
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We talk about living in Berlin,
about her time growing up in the UK.
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Talk about her surfing, her travels
even to exotic places and surfing there
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and we talk about some Harry Potter
references that I may or may not get.
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That's going to be a surprise
for you to find out.
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So let's get into the podcast episode.
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Welcome to the third quarter Talk podcast.
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I'm your host now.
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Yet often
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this podcast, we talk with people
that are raised in a culture different
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than their parents, home culture
or way of life or nationality
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and now they're living in today's culture,
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slightly different than it
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is of our parents or even back in the day.
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So let's again, today's episode.
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Relaxed. Here.
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Just relax. It's nice and chill.
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There's a couch or slide that,
how you say your last name?
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The Trelawny gawa wo Trelawny.
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How you said Trelawny, Fulani Gaelic.
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Professor Trelawney from Harry Potter.
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You know, it's funny I should know
about Harry Potter, but I don't.
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You're a millennial.
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I know, I know, but I just
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I know about the references,
but I don't know enough to know the names.
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You know?
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Okay, but
but you for the purposes of this podcast.
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I know, but you know, Professor Snape.
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Yes. The one with the dead
turns into a snake, right? No.
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Who is what?
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Oh, I think I'm being. I'm
getting exposed.
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Oh, I don't think. Anyone
turns into a. Snake.
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No. Or the one?
It looks like he's a pale white dude.
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I got the slicked back black hair.
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Yeah, I think that is.
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Yeah.
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He says he has, like, that trench.
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Not a trench coat, but he wears all black.
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Yeah, he's very like,
you know, very evil and, you know.
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Yeah, yeah, it looks like a vampire.
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Yeah. That's professor's name. Okay. Yeah.
All right. Cool.
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I know a little bit about Harry Potter.
Look.
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Well, Professor Trelawney
is, was the whole. No.
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Was she the divination one?
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Well, she used to basically do kind of
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horoscope kind of things.
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She was teaching them how to read the
the futures with tea leaves.
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And name is Professor Trelawney.
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Okay. Yeah.
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So it's Trelawney Gower or as German say,
I love Nick Glover.
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Ooh. Not out of that yet.
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I like the first one better. Yeah,
that sounds better.
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The first time I went to a flat rental,
they were calling out people.
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Oh, like to check out the flat?
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They were calling out people's names
and they were like,
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blah, blah, blah to nick over.
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And I just stood there and I was like.
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The who is. That?
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And they repeated it
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and I was like, why is this person
just not answering the like, oh.
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Did you get the apartment?
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Oh God. No.
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No, I mean after that, right?
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I guess I. Can't come back from.
That. Right.
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They called your name was like, all right,
well, I don't know if I want a roommate.
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I can't hear, you know?
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Are you like, hey, whoa, whoa is
what you said is not me, is you, you know?
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But then I got used to it.
It became sort of my alter ego.
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Whenever I'm at the doctor's now
and they're like, how to love Nick over.
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I'm like, oh, it's me.
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Oh, there you. Go, a new. Name.
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So you've been here for a while,
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so now you know how your name sounds
in a different, place?
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Yeah.
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You know, yeah,
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I wish I, I think, I think that's some
sometimes a little bit interesting.
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We hear your name in a different accent
or tone.
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You're kind of like,
I never knew my name can be said that way.
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I mean, you'd be surprised
at the name of my name.
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Clare is quite simple,
I would think is simple.
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Yeah, but actually, when I,
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when I introduce myself to most people,
they seem to hear like I'm like, hi,
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my name is Clare and they're like,
Leah, Leah.
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And I'm like, what?
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Leah? And I'm like, no, no, Clare.
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But actually it does her.
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It sounds really different
in many languages or accents.
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I mean, how would you say. Clare.
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No you wouldn't.
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Yeah, I would say clearly.
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Claire. Claire.
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Yeah, but but I'm speaking in, in terms of
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like maybe the tone and like my,
what I call European ized.
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Me. Yeah.
Your fellow compatriots would say.
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Wait, how do hair Clare I look?
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Well,
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I don't know if you know, but,
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I'm a black dude
that grew up in a certain neighborhood,
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so I'm not gonna say Clare, I can't
I can't even do that.
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If I did that,
that will be some more questions.
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Like what? So how would you
how you say it. I'll say, Clare
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like.
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Like Clare like over there,
you know, like, what's it over there?
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Now I just
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replace it with C and I'll take the over
and then click clear over there.
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Clear, clear. Okay. Well yeah.
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Look over there Clare.
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You know it rhymes a bit
a little bit okay.
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It was little different
how I would say it.
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And then the Aussie say Clare.
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Oh well similar kind of. Yeah.
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So it's like Claire.
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Claire. Claire
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I don't know, but Bennet,
basically the most common mishearing is,
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Leah there.
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That is so interesting.
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Yes. So it's but.
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It's clear there'd be something going on
with the C now that just mixes people up.
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Yeah.
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I mean, also in French, it's like Claire.
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Okay. That makes sense.
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Yeah, yeah.
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For like a Claire.
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Claire, you know, your name is so easy.
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It rhymes with a lot of things
in different countries, right?
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Like a Claire.
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Claire over there. Claire.
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It's almost the same word. E.
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Claire. Claire. Yeah. One. One letter.
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So you have a very universal name.
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I mean, not for it being very popular
and maybe a lot of people name Claire,
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but also.
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So a lot of different pastries
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and, you know, over, you know, directions
like over there, right?
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Yeah. I mean, Claire and Gower.
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So the only bit was something
that was added a bit later in life.
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Some family reasons, but most of my,
my use, I was just Claire Gower.
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And that rhymes with a lot. Really.
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I mean.
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Claire, like Claire rhymes with a lot
there for where?
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Cam at Gower power shower.
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Our. There's a lot.
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Oh, well, one. Of my friends
came up with the rhyme once.
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I was like,
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Claire, our full power, 24 hour, no shower
I don't really like.
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I don't relate to the last bit,
but I get the vibe. Wow.
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Just try to stuff
all those words onto one.
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Yeah. Wow.
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Their power did like our.
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Look at that.
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You know, like when Homer calls himself
Max power.
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Max power.
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Then you pull now a lot of references.
I got a really big heart.
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I'm like, oh, this is a tricky podcast.
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I should have did more research.
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I didn't know how to watch The Simpsons
and Harry Potter, all the, you know,
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all the seasons. I'm
not even a big Harry Potter fan, actually.
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Like,
there are people way more intense than me.
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Like one of my friends at a music festival
actually set up a Quidditch match.
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But he did it on day three of the festival
and everyone was a bit to,
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like, waved to take part in it.
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Well,
I don't think any day on any festival
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someone will be up for Quidditch match.
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So I think he was playing his cards
his incompletely, like just on day three.
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I'm just going to pull out the ball
with the wings and then make it work.
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What?
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No, we on the festival,
we don't even know where we at right now.
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Maybe day one, day one
when people got the energy.
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Maybe they've just had some magic
mushrooms.
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You see a Quidditch match, they're like,
this is hilarious.
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Day three.
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Everyone's just,
like, battered and barely pulling through.
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All right? Not sleeping and sharing.
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Not if I look at a ball with the window
that I would know I'm trying
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to, like,
get energy to redo the day again.
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Yeah, just trying to
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finally just just pull through,
just make it to the bitter end.
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See the finish line.
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And it's like the Quidditch matches is.
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Not a Quidditch. It's not possible.
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But I'm going to send him the podcast
if you include that bit.
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That's hilarious.
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He's funny.
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He must have been high.
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Shed even come up with that idea. Just.
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Oh, man.
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Yeah, I think it'll be good right now
with the music
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in a ball, with the wings on it
and people catching it.
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Like what?
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What drugs are you taking?
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He brought a lot of costumes as well.
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Oh, yeah. The full Slytherin outfit.
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Yeah.
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This is your friend.
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What would you say to him
if he watches it right now?
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I would say, wow.
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Great imagination.
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First of all, I respect it.
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Second is that, how's life
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in general?
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Because they have an outfit
to take that at a fest.
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What kind of festival was it?
Let me give them some grace.
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It was a music festival.
What kind of music?
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Like we talking electronic music?
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It was a standard issue. European. Like.
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Yeah, yeah.
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You know, I'm trying to say
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the wavy drug, you know,
I can't say Wavy Drug Festival.
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I shouldn't say wavy drug.
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We're in Berlin so.
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Yeah. You know.
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Yeah I mean but we're in Berlin.
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Techno festival. Want to assume. Yeah.
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I don't think anyone's assuming a sober
techno festival.
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Yeah. No it. Wasn't. Yeah.
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And especially when somebody's
wearing a slithering outfit.
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And then if somebody's doing that,
there's drugs around. He's
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also the same friend that he did a deejay
sit there, and he wore a nun outfit.
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And okay, so, you know.
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You know,
piecing together who he is. Now. Yeah.
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I, shout out to
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you, wow,
you should be in a movie or something.
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You sound like you're ready for the stage,
you know, just go ahead.
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Just change different outfits,
you know, different personalities, maybe.
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Yeah,
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he's going to switch it in and out.
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That's one crazy.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So, you know, you're clear.
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The last name again?
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Gower. Gower.
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Claire Gower, dear.
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Power, 24 hour, 24 hour.
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And did take a shower. Yes. Shower.
There you go.
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And, you're, the creator of, the normal
German, the average Joe, average German.
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Sorry, I apologize, the average,
the normal German.
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Normal German also makes sense.
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The normal German.
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But the average German is more like
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rooted in mathematics,
I suppose, because we
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the the way that we wanted to build
this series was based around them.
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Statistics.
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Oh, so the average German does like,
how much do they eat in a day?
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How much they sleep at night?
When do they wake up? The average.
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So we we use like data to build this
kind of funny story around a protagonist.
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Wow. Yeah.
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And so basically,
every episode is based on like an average,
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I guess, of what a German does
or goes through.
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Yeah.
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Most notably, of course, you added
things like dating, right.
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Which that's like a big thing here
in Berlin
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or I don't even know, in Germany.
You know.
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Berlin and Germany. Very different,
I think.
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Oh, yeah. I've heard.
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Yeah. Berlin is, crazy.
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But, I mean, so you created that.
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And what inspired you
to create that? Like, what was it?
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What was it like just cuz
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it wasn't the averages
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of the German people, I'm
assuming it must have been something else.
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Well.
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I think I've been.
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Well, I've been here for eight years.
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I feel I feel like I understand
the German culture.
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I mean, yeah, we live in Berlin.
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It's not really the same thing,
but I feel like
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I do have a wider understanding
of like German culture.
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And with this, this project at work,
they wanted to make something
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that was lighthearted, informative,
with a good storyline
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to explain
how the average German lives their life.
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And yeah, actually they weren't
they weren't sure
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if they were going to ask me to do it
at first, which is so funny because now
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I look back, it's like quintessentially
like me as a as a production.
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But yeah, they actually made me
do a casting at work,
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which is really funny, really. Like,
oh, do you work?
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Then why do I need
to have a casting internally?
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But yeah, they made me do a casting
to see if I, if I,
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if I could be the funny presenter
that they had in mind or in production.
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And I was like,
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yes. I mean, you created it.
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Yeah.
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They had like a broad idea.
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They were like, we want to do something
about the average German day to day life.
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I was like, okay.
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And then they then they were like,
we want to make it kind of funny
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or do all these different things.
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Like, could you picture some ideas
of what it would be like?
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And yeah, that's kind of how it started.
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And they wanted someone
who could do it in a funny way.
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So they do it in a nice way too.
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I like the holes.
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You know how you do it where you're like,
not I mean, you're there, but
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the people in the scene
don't know you're there.
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Yeah. Type thing at something I don't.
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I mean, it just kind of happened
that way at the beginning.
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And now I've done so many episodes
like 12 or something.
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That I.
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Kind of just, I play around with it.
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Now, is this kind of,
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I don't know, we have a whole multiverse
of average German characters now.
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It's, if you watch all of the episodes,
you'll see.
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You'll see
like these recurring people in there.
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And I play with this idea of either
being there or not there.
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And I think growing up,
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I think one of my main,
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influences or inspirations of
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it is 2000 British reality TV.
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I don't know if you can
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if you sense that if you're not British
or also not European, but it's
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I grew up with all of these crazy TV shows
like Secret Eaters.
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Secret Eaters, no.
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Secret Eaters, no. I don't know.
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This one is a crazy reality show.
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And it's it's one is from the 2000s
on like channel four.
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It's one of those.
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It's one of the it's basically the tabloid
channel free channel.
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Right. Well we had many, many channels.
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Well, I just had four channels growing up,
not five, because I lived in East
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Anglia for.
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Little channels
I had until I was about 15 years old.
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And the channel four was the tabloid one,
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and they used to do these outrageous,
kind of unhinged documentaries
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or like reality shows I don't think
would fly anymore these days.
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The Secret Eaters,
for example, was based on.
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Well, there's no nice
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way to say it, but a very large people
that people, in fact.
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And they would
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the fat
people would say to the camera like,
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I don't know why I'm fat,
I don't eat anything.
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And then the reality host
would then say, well, we're going
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to find out what they really eat
to find out why they're fat.
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And then they'd install secret cameras
in their house.
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And then, at the end of the whatever
how long they filmed them for,
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they would present them
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with all this visual evidence of,
how much food they actually eat.
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Oh, they.
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Would pretend to take them on a weekend
away to London, put them in a hotel.
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Well, it wasn't really a hotel.
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And then they would
they would, like, remove the wall
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in the in the middle of the room
to reveal, like a secret laboratory
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where they had all the food
they'd eaten in the last week stacked up
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and were like, look at you, secret fatty.
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This is how much you ate.
This is why you're fat.
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And they'd all be like, whoa,
that's crazy.
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I didn't know I ate that much. It was.
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It was a wild show.
00;14;03;23 - 00;14;06;22
What was the craziest one
or what was the craziest? Like? Well.
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One that sticks in my mind is when they.
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These two go. Well, it was a couple.
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And then, you know,
they always say the same things.
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I was like, I probably like 1000 calories
a day, like, like, count my calories.
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I'm not eating junk food.
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I don't know why I'm gaining weight.
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And then
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they followed them to a restaurant,
and then they installed a camera next to.
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It's like a buffet, basically. Yeah.
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They took them to a buffet.
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Well, no, they went to a buffet.
The couple. Oh, okay.
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They were being followed
secretly by the cameras.
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They do secretly remember
they went to the buffet
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and then they installed
a roast potato counter,
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and they counted how many roast potatoes
the person put on their plate.
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And I think it was like 25.
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Well, so potatoes was the issue of why
that is the most polite way
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to become like large. Let me just say.
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25 roast. Potatoes.
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Yeah, that is a very polite way as
an American like that is crazy potatoes.
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So that's that's
how they got fed potatoes.
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I mean, there were. Other things,
but that was just an example.
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For potatoes to be
even there as the catch point to be like,
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okay, let's count
how many potatoes they're eating.
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Like that is still healthy actually.
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Yeah. Well roast potatoes. Oh roast.
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Oh well, the oil is we'll get you
not color number 5 or 30 or GMOs.
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I guess in America it would be like
the deep fried triple stuff.
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How it will be crazy.
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It would be Double Stuf waffles
with Oreos in it,
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with some pastries on top,
and then it's layer on top.
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It would be something like egregious.
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You know what, a pop tart in the middle.
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You know, like
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just something that's like, hey, here's
all the things you love in this one plate.
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Hopefully you live and enjoy it.
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You're like, all right. You know.
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You make it out of this. Yeah.
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I don't think that person eating
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is going to have any question
about how they got to where they are.
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I mean, I'm a size perspective.
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To be honest.
I think as an American you're probably
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the only
person really well, the only nationality
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that wouldn't find this
show is outrageous, as most people find it
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because Americans are so used
to this kind of insane TV show.
00;16;02;24 - 00;16;04;01
Yeah, I mean, I see your reaction.
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You kind of like, okay, that's
that's not that crazy.
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Yeah.
00;16;07;21 - 00;16;09;19
Once you said
roasted potatoes at the cashpoint,
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I was like, well, this seems like
a very quaint show, that it sounds nice.
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The family can watch.
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Whereas other Europeans are like,
that's insane.
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That's so wrong and morally questionable.
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Whereas Americans are. Like,
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not that bad.
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Yeah, we've got Jerry Springer
and show like dad we got like,
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you know, teenage girls being like,
fuck you, mom, I don't love you, you know?
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I mean, that's.
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Our oh,
the Jerry Springer era was the unique.
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Yeah, right. You're not the father.
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You know,
somebody doing a backflip, right?
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The baby's like, I know mom's arm
crying and just like, oh, wow.
00;16;38;24 - 00;16;40;27
You know, this is crazy. You know?
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You know, somebody running around,
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you know, this audience member is like,
you know, you stink, right?
00;16;45;12 - 00;16;48;06
You know, hey, you know,
you should respect your mom.
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Fuck you all like my mom,
you know, smoking
00;16;50;10 - 00;16;53;10
a cigaret on stage is just like,
you know, I'm.
00;16;53;12 - 00;16;54;24
I'm watching it home from school.
00;16;54;24 - 00;16;57;09
Me, like, oh, I'm not learning
what I'm learning about life. You know?
00;16;58;23 - 00;17;01;03
How do you think that affected you?
00;17;01;03 - 00;17;01;27
That growing.
00;17;01;27 - 00;17;04;05
Up with Jerry Springer?
00;17;04;05 - 00;17;07;19
It gave me a good tapestry
of what life can be.
00;17;07;29 - 00;17;08;14
Right?
00;17;08;14 - 00;17;11;08
So, you know,
I thought life is supposed to be this
00;17;11;08 - 00;17;14;00
and that, you know, by expanding my world
horizons, right?
00;17;14;00 - 00;17;20;06
I'm like, wow, I didn't know that
a man can have four different women.
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And that being a contentious point of,
like, who's the father?
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And then him doing a backflip
when he found out, like all four of them
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were not he was not the father of the kid
or something, or
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that, sorry, it's going to be based around
kids again.
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That's what Jerry Springer was all about.
00;17;34;26 - 00;17;36;23
It was about like
just allegations of being like,
00;17;36;23 - 00;17;40;00
you know, it'd be like,
I don't know, maybe like someone
00;17;40;16 - 00;17;43;01
it would be some time to do something
where like,
00;17;43;01 - 00;17;46;06
they played it on, like,
so for example, to have like, maybe,
00;17;47;20 - 00;17;48;00
you know, white
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girl, white baby and be a black father
and be like, all right.
00;17;51;27 - 00;17;52;14
Jamal.
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So, says here that you're the and,
you know, and, you know,
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they got the picture and the baby like,
you know, like, you know,
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and you kind of looking at then
like, Jamal, you are the father.
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Everyone's shocked.
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You know,
you see people in all these like,
00;18;06;00 - 00;18;07;03
you know, I'm, I'm recorded.
00;18;07;03 - 00;18;08;02
I want to be to shock.
00;18;08;02 - 00;18;12;14
You know, it was like a lot of,
interesting things that put there or,
00;18;13;07 - 00;18;16;25
you know, people doing, like,
I don't know, do have things where, like,
00;18;16;25 - 00;18;20;11
so am I having sex or too early in life
and it'll have like, somebody on who's
00;18;20;11 - 00;18;24;13
like a sex expert who's like basically
a military sergeant, you know?
00;18;24;26 - 00;18;27;16
So stop having,
you know, I mean, just like like, whoa.
00;18;27;16 - 00;18;28;09
All right.
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I'm learning a lot about life.
00;18;29;11 - 00;18;32;08
I, you know,
you can stop somebody via screaming.
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That's interesting.
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And also, the lie detector test,
that was a huge thing for a while.
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Hey. Right.
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We don't even know it's real.
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It's probably. Not. Real. Yeah. At all.
00;18;40;15 - 00;18;41;00
And you know what?
00;18;41;00 - 00;18;42;05
One thing they had in it to start
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bringing in was like, these dramatic,
like, backstories or whatever,
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and of the music just to turn down,
you know, I was teased when I was young,
00;18;50;28 - 00;18;53;07
you know, had, like, the little angles,
black and white, you know,
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you don't ever love me.
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My mom smoked cigarets and blew my face,
you know, just like, whoa.
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And, you know, and then by.
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So let's bring out, you know,
Sasha or something, she come out boom.
00;19;03;24 - 00;19;07;08
And Sasha for,
you know, me, I'm like, Whoa.
00;19;07;08 - 00;19;09;17
Sasha is still a little person, you know?
00;19;09;17 - 00;19;11;29
I mean, why are we blowing up a kid?
00;19;11;29 - 00;19;13;11
You know, it's a crazy era.
00;19;13;11 - 00;19;15;07
Yeah. Booing like yeah.
00;19;15;07 - 00;19;17;01
You know, in them
I mean people will get into you.
00;19;17;01 - 00;19;19;14
They'll cut scenes to the audience. Boo.
00;19;19;14 - 00;19;22;10
You know I'm like wow.
So I learned a lot about life.
00;19;22;10 - 00;19;26;12
I learned that grown people can treat
young people like grown people.
00;19;26;20 - 00;19;27;07
Yeah.
00;19;27;07 - 00;19;27;20
You know.
00;19;27;20 - 00;19;30;01
It's kind of like the Colosseum, really.
00;19;30;01 - 00;19;30;06
Like.
00;19;30;06 - 00;19;33;11
Yeah, the booing and the public
shaming and, you know.
00;19;34;06 - 00;19;34;24
All right.
00;19;34;24 - 00;19;36;11
And Jerry Springer, he held it together.
00;19;36;11 - 00;19;39;19
He was like the most sensible person,
which is hilarious because it's his show.
00;19;40;02 - 00;19;43;13
So he's the most craziest person,
but he's the most sensible on the show.
00;19;44;02 - 00;19;46;06
It was a great Brando. I mean. Very.
00;19;46;06 - 00;19;49;11
I mean, you did it well, I mean,
I never watched it, but Doctor Phil, so.
00;19;49;19 - 00;19;52;18
Oh yeah. He's not an actual doctor, is he?
00;19;53;00 - 00;19;55;07
I would doubt so I hope not.
00;19;55;07 - 00;19;57;17
How is he called Doctor Phil?
00;19;57;17 - 00;20;01;10
You know, got a degree, a doctor,
you know, like, you know, some.
00;20;01;10 - 00;20;03;08
Degree a PhD doctor.
00;20;03;08 - 00;20;03;29
Not like a doctor.
00;20;03;29 - 00;20;06;27
Dre doctor went to university,
a degree or something, right?
00;20;06;27 - 00;20;10;08
You know, one of those little online
schools, you know, got the degree, doctor.
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Well, I mean, this is before online, but,
you know,
00;20;12;25 - 00;20;14;09
we didn't know any better at that time.
00;20;14;09 - 00;20;15;26
So we were a doctor.
00;20;15;26 - 00;20;18;28
He's an old white dude with a bald head
00;20;18;28 - 00;20;22;06
is and a little thing, you know,
he had, like, he had the.
00;20;22;06 - 00;20;25;19
He had the professor doctor haircut
at that time.
00;20;25;22 - 00;20;28;06
Yeah. Which is,
like, bald on top, the fryer type.
00;20;28;06 - 00;20;29;20
Oh, yeah.
00;20;29;20 - 00;20;33;18
Did he also sweater vests
or am I just, like, projecting?
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You know, he wore a suit.
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I think, you know,
he wore a blazer and jeans, I think.
00;20;40;09 - 00;20;41;01
Oh, wow.
00;20;41;01 - 00;20;44;02
Yeah,
very like Steve Jobs before Steve Jobs.
00;20;44;16 - 00;20;46;02
Right. No, no. Did he didn't do that.
00;20;46;02 - 00;20;48;17
Did he just had like the whole black
turtleneck.
00;20;48;17 - 00;20;50;25
Oh yeah. Yeah.
A doctor for a wore a turtleneck.
00;20;50;25 - 00;20;53;24
I think that
that show wouldn't have lasted long.
00;20;53;25 - 00;20;54;17
Oh yeah. Yeah.
00;20;54;17 - 00;20;57;17
He doesn't he doesn't fit the whole,
you know, turtleneck.
00;20;57;17 - 00;21;01;03
When did they start wearing like, sports
jackets as tech people.
00;21;02;21 - 00;21;04;07
Tech people, sports jackets.
00;21;04;07 - 00;21;04;13
Yeah.
00;21;04;13 - 00;21;07;19
It wasn't that like the whole thing
that they stopped wearing, like blazers.
00;21;07;19 - 00;21;10;23
And instead they switched them out
for fleeces and sports jackets.
00;21;10;24 - 00;21;14;06
Oh, that was like early 2000s
I think. Okay.
00;21;14;06 - 00;21;15;07
Yeah. Early 2000.
00;21;15;07 - 00;21;17;15
Jobs was still sticking
with the turtleneck. Though.
00;21;17;15 - 00;21;19;09
Yeah. That guy was never cold.
00;21;19;09 - 00;21;20;22
He's never wore a jacket.
00;21;20;22 - 00;21;20;27
All right.
00;21;20;27 - 00;21;23;19
I never saw him with a jacket
on. Isn't that crazy? I've never seen him.
00;21;23;19 - 00;21;26;23
I you only saw with a turtleneck
and just blue jeans.
00;21;27;07 - 00;21;27;26
That's crazy.
00;21;27;26 - 00;21;30;19
That guy was so rich.
He even wore even wear a jacket.
00;21;31;28 - 00;21;32;25
He just endures.
00;21;32;25 - 00;21;36;27
Is shuttled around to different
conventions and factory floors.
00;21;36;27 - 00;21;38;10
But he just never wore a jacket.
00;21;38;10 - 00;21;40;17
It's a status symbol to not wear a jacket.
00;21;40;17 - 00;21;43;17
Also, those tiny bags
00;21;43;18 - 00;21;46;25
you you can only be
if you have one of those tiny bags.
00;21;46;25 - 00;21;49;25
And I'm talking like,
you know, these kind of tiny bags.
00;21;50;07 - 00;21;52;25
You have to be rich because,
00;21;52;25 - 00;21;56;00
you know, normal people
would need to have some kind of,
00;21;57;04 - 00;22;00;05
I don't know,
perhaps a spare jacket, a layer.
00;22;00;10 - 00;22;01;02
Right.
00;22;01;02 - 00;22;04;27
A layer at least,
maybe a bottle of water for the journey,
00;22;04;27 - 00;22;08;05
at least some kind of cash system.
00;22;08;23 - 00;22;12;28
But with those tiny bags
that says all I need is lip gloss, a key,
00;22;13;16 - 00;22;16;00
and everything else is provided to me.
00;22;16;00 - 00;22;21;04
Transportation transfers,
no jacket required constantly in a,
00;22;21;13 - 00;22;26;23
you know, measured environment and,
regulated temperature measure environment.
00;22;26;24 - 00;22;30;16
That's a measure that's like
not standing outside of the club
00;22;30;16 - 00;22;31;28
for half an hour in the cold.
00;22;31;28 - 00;22;36;27
That's like right in and out of the car
in the place constantly.
00;22;36;27 - 00;22;38;00
And ambient temperature.
00;22;39;01 - 00;22;40;08
Never waiting for our bus.
00;22;40;08 - 00;22;42;01
Right.
You know, they're always in a warm with.
00;22;42;01 - 00;22;45;01
Those tiny bags. Yeah. It is a symbol.
00;22;45;04 - 00;22;48;04
You know, actually, I worked a job before
I was a PA production assistant.
00;22;48;08 - 00;22;51;00
And I had a, like, drive models around
or something like that.
00;22;51;00 - 00;22;54;18
And, like, they never stood in the cold,
like they just never was in the cold,
00;22;54;18 - 00;22;56;01
like they was always in the van.
00;22;56;01 - 00;23;01;00
And we had to had that van on on for 24
over seven, warm specific temperature.
00;23;01;03 - 00;23;04;03
And it just did like the quick photo
shoot outside and go right back inside.
00;23;04;06 - 00;23;06;15
Exactly.
Yeah. They didn't even have a tiny bag.
00;23;06;15 - 00;23;08;08
They had no bag. There you go.
00;23;08;08 - 00;23;09;19
That's even more out.
00;23;09;19 - 00;23;10;27
Barely had clothes really.
00;23;10;27 - 00;23;13;08
I mean, so it was really flexing,
you know, their models.
00;23;13;08 - 00;23;16;15
So they had like, you know, wear whatever
they had to wear and then that's that.
00;23;16;15 - 00;23;17;09
So that's crazy.
00;23;17;09 - 00;23;19;25
Exactly. Yeah. So that's a good point.
00;23;19;25 - 00;23;23;11
Then down in the book bag, you know,
I had a theory about like, the larger
00;23;23;11 - 00;23;26;11
the book bag, the more you can tell
somebody lives far away
00;23;26;14 - 00;23;27;26
from the central point of the city.
00;23;27;26 - 00;23;29;25
Oh, my God, 100% sure, right? Yeah, yeah.
00;23;29;25 - 00;23;32;06
So, like, if you were, like,
I used to see people all they.
00;23;32;06 - 00;23;35;06
When somebody is walking around with
a tote bag, I'm like, oh, you're rich.
00;23;35;24 - 00;23;36;23
I'm like, oh, you got money.
00;23;36;23 - 00;23;38;02
You're walking around with a tote bag
00;23;38;02 - 00;23;40;27
and you walking around
just out here, just comfortable.
00;23;40;27 - 00;23;43;01
If I have a tote bag,
I'm like counting down the minutes.
00;23;43;01 - 00;23;45;25
Like, all right, I think I have like
five minutes before I die.
00;23;45;25 - 00;23;49;03
I don't have all the resources on me
to live longer away from my home.
00;23;49;03 - 00;23;50;13
What, are you serious?
00;23;50;13 - 00;23;51;09
It's crazy.
00;23;51;09 - 00;23;53;08
You can get a big tote bag these days. So.
00;23;53;08 - 00;23;56;14
Yeah, but that's a risk, you know? Risk.
00;23;56;14 - 00;24;00;11
Someone could put their hand in there,
you know, something might drop out.
00;24;00;11 - 00;24;03;02
Like, you know, you just not.
You just say, oh, I get another one.
00;24;03;02 - 00;24;05;20
There's not much structural integrity
in the tote bag.
00;24;05;20 - 00;24;07;20
Yeah. One stitch and you done.
00;24;07;20 - 00;24;10;20
Done the look, if you have a tote bag,
you're not riding a bike.
00;24;11;01 - 00;24;12;13
So that's an see. There you go.
00;24;12;13 - 00;24;14;05
That's not. True. You wrote wait.
00;24;14;05 - 00;24;16;01
I have done it many times.
00;24;16;01 - 00;24;16;23
Whoa. Yeah.
00;24;16;23 - 00;24;19;23
Actually, the this the hack. Is that you?
00;24;19;23 - 00;24;20;23
You open the tote
00;24;20;23 - 00;24;22;24
and then you put one strap
on each shoulder,
00;24;22;24 - 00;24;26;11
and then you have it, you know, on the
back, like a sort of makeshift backpack.
00;24;26;24 - 00;24;27;09
Really.
00;24;27;09 - 00;24;29;12
It's good to have somewhat
long enough straps.
00;24;29;12 - 00;24;32;12
Obviously those very small tote
bag straps aren't going to work.
00;24;32;12 - 00;24;33;28
But no, I do a lot.
00;24;33;28 - 00;24;36;17
Actually, and everything stays intact.
00;24;36;17 - 00;24;37;18
Everything still in the tent.
00;24;37;18 - 00;24;41;13
I would not do it for a long period
of time because for sure, at some point
00;24;41;13 - 00;24;43;25
something will leak out of this,
out of there, right?
00;24;43;25 - 00;24;45;08
But you know, I've done it.
00;24;45;08 - 00;24;47;18
Yeah for sure. Wow.
00;24;47;18 - 00;24;49;16
Okay, check you out, MacGyver. Okay.
00;24;49;16 - 00;24;51;09
You know how to really make some things
happen.
00;24;51;09 - 00;24;53;22
Is MacGyver a good or bad reference?
00;24;55;02 - 00;24;56;07
Let's go with good for now.
00;24;56;07 - 00;24;59;06
Yeah, it really varies
depending on how crazy you get.
00;24;59;06 - 00;25;00;07
Who is. MacGyver?
00;25;00;07 - 00;25;02;14
He's this, this white dude.
00;25;02;14 - 00;25;06;01
And he had a show called MacGyver,
and basically every episode was him
00;25;06;01 - 00;25;09;01
taking, obscure objects, like.
00;25;09;01 - 00;25;12;01
Or objects you find everyday objects
and making it into something
00;25;12;12 - 00;25;15;02
to use
to get out of an impossible situation,
00;25;15;02 - 00;25;18;02
for example, like one that comes to mind
and is used in event.
00;25;18;11 - 00;25;21;04
And I guess it had like
trip wires or whatever in there.
00;25;21;04 - 00;25;21;23
So what he did
00;25;21;23 - 00;25;26;00
was I smoking a pack of cigarets
to see like, okay, where the lasers were.
00;25;26;15 - 00;25;29;01
And then what he would do is,
and I don't know, put a paperclip
00;25;29;01 - 00;25;30;21
with a rubber band or some shit and like,
00;25;30;21 - 00;25;32;25
you know,
fling it to turn off the whatever.
00;25;32;25 - 00;25;37;08
Like he will find, like, I don't know, a
pillow and use that as a tracking device.
00;25;37;08 - 00;25;40;02
I don't know, to find
like somebody as a hostage.
00;25;40;02 - 00;25;42;11
And you like, yo,
how to fuck? What was this real?
00;25;43;13 - 00;25;46;03
It felt real, but I doubt it was.
00;25;46;03 - 00;25;47;07
Sounds amazing. Yeah.
00;25;47;07 - 00;25;49;00
I mean, smoking cigarets in,
00;25;49;00 - 00;25;52;01
an event or, like, in a little,
like, shaft or something.
00;25;52;01 - 00;25;54;15
I think there's lasers also present.
00;25;54;15 - 00;25;56;15
Yeah, well, first of all,
I think it might just pass out. Right?
00;25;56;15 - 00;25;57;21
They'll all amount of cigarets.
00;25;57;21 - 00;25;59;29
Just a where's the lasers?
00;25;59;29 - 00;26;01;15
Where are they coming into it?
00;26;01;15 - 00;26;03;01
I don't know, it was just
it was just like he,
00;26;03;01 - 00;26;05;24
you know, it's had like the trip wires
and he blew into it.
00;26;05;24 - 00;26;07;03
And then like, I just, you know.
00;26;07;03 - 00;26;10;02
It appeared well,
I'm glad it's applicable.
00;26;10;02 - 00;26;12;07
And for everyday situations, it seems.
00;26;12;07 - 00;26;12;22
Yeah.
00;26;12;22 - 00;26;15;22
You never you find yourself in a vent
with some lasers.
00;26;16;04 - 00;26;17;11
I'm not gonna lie to you.
00;26;17;11 - 00;26;18;28
It has informed me
00;26;18;28 - 00;26;21;28
that if I come across lasers
that I should have a pack of cigarets.
00;26;22;05 - 00;26;23;06
Yeah, you know.
00;26;23;06 - 00;26;26;03
You'd always have a pack of cigarets.
And especially in Berlin, right?
00;26;26;03 - 00;26;28;11
I mean, if. You want to make friends.
00;26;28;11 - 00;26;29;24
Yeah, at least the lighter,
00;26;30;27 - 00;26;31;20
at least. So.
00;26;31;20 - 00;26;33;21
I mean, that's what people actually said.
00;26;33;21 - 00;26;35;03
Really asked me the other day.
00;26;35;03 - 00;26;37;29
They were like,
so you don't just carry around a lighter.
00;26;37;29 - 00;26;39;09
And I was like, well, well, no.
00;26;39;09 - 00;26;41;22
And they're like,
but you know, just in case someone asks
00;26;41;22 - 00;26;44;22
or you want to strike up a conversation,
you just don't have one on the,
00;26;46;25 - 00;26;48;22
I kind of thought about it, though,
and I still have.
00;26;48;22 - 00;26;50;12
I've been making this mistake
my whole life.
00;26;50;12 - 00;26;53;15
Do I should I be carrying around a lighter
just in case someone needs it?
00;26;54;01 - 00;26;56;21
But how weird would it be
if you had a lighter and somebody say,
00;26;56;21 - 00;26;59;05
hey, can I get a light? And you light it
and they offer you a cigaret?
00;26;59;05 - 00;27;02;04
You don't know anybody. So do you smoke?
00;27;02;04 - 00;27;04;03
No, actually I don't.
I don't smoke it all the night.
00;27;04;03 - 00;27;06;24
So you just
I just. Carry around the lighter.
00;27;06;24 - 00;27;07;02
So you.
00;27;08;26 - 00;27;11;23
I feel like that would be a
00;27;11;23 - 00;27;14;29
how would you say not a hostage situation,
but more of, like a gotcha.
00;27;15;01 - 00;27;17;06
Right. It's not like,
oh, damn, that whole.
00;27;17;06 - 00;27;19;26
I got a lighter. I need a light trick.
All right, now, I got to talk to you.
00;27;19;26 - 00;27;20;07
Right. Can you.
00;27;20;07 - 00;27;22;25
Oh, if you light somebody's cigaret,
they owe you.
00;27;22;25 - 00;27;25;18
They now owe you a conversation. Exactly.
00;27;25;18 - 00;27;26;21
You can't just walk away.
00;27;26;21 - 00;27;29;21
Exactly. So, I mean, it could be.
00;27;29;27 - 00;27;32;07
I've just done it as a self-protection
mechanism.
00;27;32;07 - 00;27;33;06
Self-Protection.
00;27;33;06 - 00;27;37;09
You know, I just don't have a lighter so
no one can ever stop me in conversation.
00;27;37;23 - 00;27;38;18
This is true. All right.
00;27;38;18 - 00;27;39;14
Can you just say no?
00;27;39;14 - 00;27;42;18
And I mean, how can you go from a, like,
where do you go from a know?
00;27;42;18 - 00;27;42;29
Right.
00;27;42;29 - 00;27;44;06
Exactly. It's kind of like. Yes.
00;27;44;06 - 00;27;45;25
And but this is like no end. Yeah.
00;27;45;25 - 00;27;48;01
Without the end, it's just. No,
you can't push anymore.
00;27;48;01 - 00;27;49;21
It's not like,
oh you have like to. No, no.
00;27;49;21 - 00;27;52;04
Like matches like.
00;27;52;04 - 00;27;53;27
Blowtorch. No.
00;27;53;27 - 00;27;56;23
Imagine you have you had matches the night
a lighter to light you matches.
00;27;56;23 - 00;27;59;06
Oh yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah.
You should have had the first time. Yeah.
00;27;59;06 - 00;28;00;10
I'm at the torch. Sure.
00;28;01;09 - 00;28;02;09
Blow torch.
00;28;02;09 - 00;28;02;18
Yeah.
00;28;02;18 - 00;28;05;18
Yeah, of course I got flint and,
some sticks. You
00;28;06;24 - 00;28;07;16
know. Hey, you got a minute?
00;28;07;16 - 00;28;09;03
Hold on.
00;28;09;03 - 00;28;10;22
Just on the ground
in the middle of Berlin.
00;28;10;22 - 00;28;13;01
Just got a makeshift, bonfire.
00;28;13;01 - 00;28;16;01
It's crazy that things have happened.
00;28;16;03 - 00;28;17;11
I mean, well, yeah.
00;28;17;11 - 00;28;21;25
I'm sure my friend the other day,
she was sending me messages from her,
00;28;22;06 - 00;28;26;19
like building WhatsApp group, and there
was just a man in the garden trying to.
00;28;27;02 - 00;28;27;26
Like he was.
00;28;27;26 - 00;28;32;02
He was, he got into the back
somehow into the into Hof or whatever,
00;28;32;12 - 00;28;36;06
and he was just arranging wood
in a sort of structure, in a shape
00;28;36;15 - 00;28;39;15
you could see aerially that he'd saw
and kind of arranged it.
00;28;39;18 - 00;28;42;18
And then he had a blowtorch and
was sort of burning the top of the wood.
00;28;42;24 - 00;28;46;07
And what they just didn't know
if it was an art installation,
00;28;46;07 - 00;28;48;06
if he was just a random man.
00;28;48;06 - 00;28;51;06
But yeah, the Berlin.
00;28;51;06 - 00;28;54;21
So what, did he actually light on
fire or like, what did he do?
00;28;55;16 - 00;28;57;12
I don't know, I actually don't.
00;28;57;12 - 00;28;59;03
But you don't know,
00;28;59;03 - 00;29;01;27
you might check up on your friend
because that sounds like a problem
00;29;01;27 - 00;29;04;12
if you hear from your friend
for a couple of days.
00;29;04;12 - 00;29;05;27
I think we knew the result. Like, was.
00;29;08;04 - 00;29;08;24
It I mean, I.
00;29;08;24 - 00;29;12;00
Don't know, but then the next picture
in the group chat was the police coming?
00;29;12;21 - 00;29;13;17
Okay. Oh.
00;29;13;17 - 00;29;16;08
So that's. And him talking to the police,
I actually I can just look.
00;29;16;08 - 00;29;17;08
Because that's hilarious.
00;29;17;08 - 00;29;20;22
I would actually like to know
what would the end result was. Wow.
00;29;20;22 - 00;29;22;12
Talking to the police, not the police.
00;29;22;12 - 00;29;26;02
Like barricading the area
and like forcibly removing a guy.
00;29;26;10 - 00;29;28;13
There's like,
hey, what are you doing there?
00;29;28;13 - 00;29;29;29
You know, just, making some art.
00;29;29;29 - 00;29;33;05
Well, what kind of are you making
and making some installation on Vanguard?
00;29;33;20 - 00;29;35;09
Whoa, that is a problem.
00;29;35;09 - 00;29;37;04
Look at the angle of those steaks.
00;29;37;04 - 00;29;39;22
That is.
That is a light. Show on the thing I.
00;29;39;22 - 00;29;41;09
Yeah,
I don't know if it's going to come up.
00;29;41;09 - 00;29;42;01
Maybe, I don't know.
00;29;42;01 - 00;29;44;07
He was that's a problem.
00;29;44;07 - 00;29;47;07
So these are just some messages
from the group chat.
00;29;47;15 - 00;29;49;08
Okay. He's using a blowtorch.
00;29;49;08 - 00;29;51;19
I'm afraid he wants to start a fire.
00;29;51;19 - 00;29;53;00
Do not approach him.
00;29;53;00 - 00;29;55;02
I talked to him
before heading to my train.
00;29;55;02 - 00;29;56;10
He said he wants to a test.
00;29;56;10 - 00;29;58;09
Positive vibrations from the sky.
00;29;58;09 - 00;29;59;13
I love it, Berlin.
00;29;59;13 - 00;30;03;03
And then, the next picture is an aerial
shot with the police speaking to him.
00;30;03;12 - 00;30;06;04
Let's see how spiritual the police are.
00;30;06;04 - 00;30;07;07
Yeah. That's crazy.
00;30;07;07 - 00;30;09;01
That was that was his response.
00;30;09;01 - 00;30;10;21
Yeah. Spiritual what?
00;30;10;21 - 00;30;12;23
Actual positive vibrations from the sky.
00;30;12;23 - 00;30;14;12
Nothing positive comes from a bomb.
00;30;14;12 - 00;30;18;02
Especially those days long that that is
that is not nice.
00;30;18;02 - 00;30;20;10
Whimsical, cozy stakes to create.
00;30;20;10 - 00;30;21;25
Like a nice art installation.
00;30;21;25 - 00;30;22;12
That's it.
00;30;22;12 - 00;30;23;13
That's a sign.
00;30;23;13 - 00;30;25;15
It's like the. Movie signs. Right?
00;30;25;15 - 00;30;28;13
Those are planes
you find in and in buildings.
00;30;28;13 - 00;30;29;27
So hold them up.
00;30;29;27 - 00;30;32;21
Yeah, he probably tore down a building
to get those type of planks.
00;30;32;21 - 00;30;35;18
They'll put them up and then he's going
to probably try to burn down the place.
00;30;35;18 - 00;30;36;08
That's crazy.
00;30;36;08 - 00;30;39;00
Yeah, I'm surprised
no one screamed at him.
00;30;39;00 - 00;30;40;09
Yeah, but this is your home, I guess.
00;30;40;09 - 00;30;41;06
You know, maybe.
00;30;41;06 - 00;30;42;08
But, Yeah, I don't know.
00;30;42;08 - 00;30;44;00
Usually they
I mean, they don't scream at them, though.
00;30;44;00 - 00;30;45;07
They just, like, call the police
00;30;45;07 - 00;30;48;02
and then watch from their window
and take aerial pictures.
00;30;48;02 - 00;30;52;01
The confrontation is, I feel like Germans
are either really confrontational or not.
00;30;52;26 - 00;30;53;27
It's like a binary.
00;30;53;27 - 00;30;56;03
It's either
like shout at you on the street
00;30;56;03 - 00;30;59;23
or just sit in the window looking through
like the little strip being like.
00;31;00;22 - 00;31;01;18
Yeah.
00;31;01;18 - 00;31;03;24
Let's see how spiritual the police are.
00;31;03;24 - 00;31;05;29
Oh put in a German state of good use.
00;31;08;01 - 00;31;09;21
Not just
during this time actually observing.
00;31;09;21 - 00;31;11;24
Be like all right what's, what's going
do observe.
00;31;11;24 - 00;31;12;27
Yeah.
00;31;12;27 - 00;31;15;27
I'm assuming you have, have you done
an episode on that, like our,
00;31;16;00 - 00;31;19;00
thing about, the Germans, they're.
00;31;19;11 - 00;31;22;25
Yeah, it was really weird, honestly,
is that I've heard so much about this
00;31;22;25 - 00;31;26;29
German stare, but I genuinely haven't
experienced it myself.
00;31;27;08 - 00;31;28;07
Oh, really?
00;31;28;07 - 00;31;31;07
Yeah. Is it because I am?
00;31;31;11 - 00;31;33;04
Is because I don't take the train.
00;31;33;04 - 00;31;34;17
I don't take the ubuntu, the ESP.
00;31;34;17 - 00;31;37;10
I'm very much. I'm right.
I ride my bike everywhere.
00;31;37;10 - 00;31;41;16
I'm very, very rarely on public transport
and I feel like that's where it happens.
00;31;41;16 - 00;31;43;23
Yes, a lot of public. Yeah.
00;31;43;23 - 00;31;45;16
Because where else is it happening?
00;31;45;16 - 00;31;46;03
Yeah, definitely.
00;31;46;03 - 00;31;46;13
Yeah.
00;31;46;13 - 00;31;49;11
Public transportation
sometimes at a restaurant, you know.
00;31;49;11 - 00;31;52;26
But actually, to be honest,
I don't encounter it that much anymore.
00;31;52;26 - 00;31;54;24
But it was something
maybe I don't pay attention.
00;31;54;24 - 00;31;56;22
But before it was like, you know.
00;31;56;22 - 00;31;57;17
It could be then
00;31;57;17 - 00;32;01;06
that the after enough time in Berlin,
you actually just completely.
00;32;01;17 - 00;32;02;15
You just blank it out.
00;32;02;15 - 00;32;04;23
Yeah. It might be the.
00;32;04;23 - 00;32;05;25
It might be the I don't know.
00;32;05;25 - 00;32;07;18
So why don't you take public
transportation.
00;32;07;18 - 00;32;10;01
That's
something that just like a, you know.
00;32;11;13 - 00;32;11;28
Well, it sounds
00;32;11;28 - 00;32;14;28
like a weird, like political statement,
but no, no.
00;32;15;23 - 00;32;16;05
I don't know.
00;32;16;05 - 00;32;19;27
I mean, I live 15 minutes walk from work,
so that takes the commute out,
00;32;20;18 - 00;32;21;22
and then
00;32;21;22 - 00;32;25;14
I always ride my bike because it's quicker
generally than taking the train.
00;32;25;14 - 00;32;28;14
The only time I take the train is
when it's very, very cold out.
00;32;28;20 - 00;32;32;11
Or I'm coming back from somewhere
late, late in the night.
00;32;32;23 - 00;32;33;00
Right.
00;32;33;00 - 00;32;37;04
So my general, my expectation
of my experiences and off the train is,
00;32;37;27 - 00;32;40;15
I, the terrifying people at 4 a.m.
00;32;40;15 - 00;32;45;04
or sardine crushed people
when it's minus ten outside.
00;32;45;17 - 00;32;49;01
I guess I'm not really giving myself
the full positive experience.
00;32;49;23 - 00;32;52;23
But yeah, yeah, that's a good point
because it's actually pretty good
00;32;52;23 - 00;32;54;20
on off hours.
And when it's not freezing cold.
00;32;54;20 - 00;32;58;15
Yeah, well, I take it to the airport,
of course, and I like to eat.
00;32;58;15 - 00;33;00;21
I mean, the Deutsche Bahn is
00;33;00;21 - 00;33;04;00
I mean, it gets a lot of flak
because it is delayed a lot.
00;33;04;05 - 00;33;04;15
Right.
00;33;05;17 - 00;33;08;12
Seldom actually on time, I've heard,
00;33;08;12 - 00;33;12;03
but when I've been on the Deutsche Oben,
I think it's quite nice trains.
00;33;12;04 - 00;33;13;18
It's not bad. It's pretty good.
00;33;13;18 - 00;33;15;10
Yeah, it's actually quite nice, I would.
00;33;15;10 - 00;33;18;28
Say, in comparison to a lot of other
transportation systems out there.
00;33;18;28 - 00;33;20;27
Like, I mean, the tube, I,
00;33;20;27 - 00;33;24;03
I don't really like to bank on a lot of
you out there in London.
00;33;24;20 - 00;33;24;29
Yeah.
00;33;24;29 - 00;33;28;03
It's it's for one, I'm like a tall person,
like it's cramped.
00;33;28;03 - 00;33;28;09
Right.
00;33;28;09 - 00;33;30;15
So like, you know,
you got a hunch over second
00;33;30;15 - 00;33;34;06
is that the seats seem like they haven't
been clean for like, 30 years. So.
00;33;34;13 - 00;33;34;23
Yeah.
00;33;34;23 - 00;33;36;11
Yeah, I never I do look at it.
00;33;36;11 - 00;33;37;28
I just be like, nah.
00;33;37;28 - 00;33;39;00
On the Bakerloo line.
00;33;39;00 - 00;33;42;17
I think if you actually bash them
in a bit, there'll be dust that pops up.
00;33;42;18 - 00;33;43;00
Yeah.
00;33;43;00 - 00;33;46;16
What the do people
clean it like or just there.
00;33;46;16 - 00;33;47;14
It's just never.
00;33;47;14 - 00;33;49;10
Oh maybe there's more.
00;33;49;10 - 00;33;53;00
Kind of like a self-cleaning
sort of ethos applied to it.
00;33;53;04 - 00;33;55;13
It's like, oh, the thing is so clean
does from what
00;33;55;13 - 00;33;57;26
you hit it once, once that's happening,
you gotta,
00;33;57;26 - 00;34;00;14
you gotta,
you gotta remove the whole carpet or
00;34;00;14 - 00;34;03;08
you gotta send it to the people that,
you know, clean carpets on TikTok,
00;34;03;08 - 00;34;06;02
like where they like,
you know, do the whole water and sweep it.
00;34;06;02 - 00;34;07;19
You got it. That's what you gotta do.
00;34;07;19 - 00;34;10;12
You gotta do a whole entire water
sweeping, you know?
00;34;10;12 - 00;34;11;26
Yeah. No,
I don't think they're doing that.
00;34;11;26 - 00;34;15;13
I think the London Underground
is, was built well in the
00;34;16;24 - 00;34;18;08
19th century.
00;34;18;08 - 00;34;19;28
Early 19th century. Right.
00;34;19;28 - 00;34;22;04
And it probably remains that way.
00;34;22;04 - 00;34;23;13
But there is the Elizabeth line.
00;34;23;13 - 00;34;24;18
No, I haven't been on it yet,
00;34;24;18 - 00;34;27;23
but the Elizabeth line is the newest line
opened a few years ago.
00;34;28;02 - 00;34;29;16
Nice. The Lizzie line.
00;34;29;16 - 00;34;30;29
The Lizzie line, as they call it.
00;34;30;29 - 00;34;33;17
Yeah. Wow. I don't
I mean, I say that as a joke.
00;34;33;17 - 00;34;36;10
I haven't lived in England for ten years.
00;34;36;10 - 00;34;39;17
Yeah, I mean, you have the accent,
so whatever you say is whatever, I can't
00;34;39;25 - 00;34;40;24
I can't even do the accent.
00;34;40;24 - 00;34;42;06
So whatever you say is true.
00;34;42;06 - 00;34;45;05
You can't do the accent. No.
00;34;45;07 - 00;34;48;24
I cannot, whenever I try to do the accent,
00;34;48;24 - 00;34;52;10
I sound like I start veering into tomboy,
territory.
00;34;52;21 - 00;34;55;07
To what?
Do you ever. You ever watch tomboy?
00;34;55;07 - 00;34;56;00
Oh, yeah.
00;34;56;00 - 00;34;56;22
Yeah, yeah.
00;34;56;22 - 00;35;00;26
So, you know, I can't do the GPS version.
00;35;01;08 - 00;35;03;16
You know,
I know there's a lot of levels of,
00;35;03;16 - 00;35;06;16
of of the British tone
when it comes to speak English.
00;35;06;24 - 00;35;08;18
Like the closer
you are to the Queen or something,
00;35;08;18 - 00;35;11;08
the more proper you sound,
and a further way you are like,
00;35;11;08 - 00;35;13;15
there's a, there's, like,
classism attached to, like the,
00;35;14;24 - 00;35;16;16
accents or something or.
00;35;16;16 - 00;35;20;01
Yeah, yeah. Hundred percent 100 is. Crazy.
00;35;20;07 - 00;35;23;07
I mean, I, I, I don't know
what accidentally I have exactly, but
00;35;23;10 - 00;35;26;14
I grew up in the east coast of England,
in East Anglia.
00;35;26;24 - 00;35;28;25
It's like the
00;35;28;25 - 00;35;31;01
countryside.
00;35;31;01 - 00;35;34;07
Little bump of England
on the east coast and
00;35;35;13 - 00;35;38;04
yeah, I don't know, like now,
I guess most people would say I have this,
00;35;38;04 - 00;35;42;13
like, standard southeast England
like English accent that you would,
00;35;42;13 - 00;35;45;17
you would consider English,
but where I actually grew up is,
00;35;46;18 - 00;35;49;02
country country ville. Country
ville. What?
00;35;49;02 - 00;35;50;02
Sounds like a country.
00;35;50;02 - 00;35;52;19
Yeah. Sound like there's
more in a country than near the city.
00;35;52;19 - 00;35;55;19
There is a very strong
kind of regional accent there.
00;35;56;07 - 00;35;57;20
And I feel.
00;35;57;20 - 00;36;00;20
But growing up, I don't think me
and my friends had the accent.
00;36;00;20 - 00;36;01;29
But as soon as you seem to,
00;36;01;29 - 00;36;04;27
if you stay there beyond 25,
then it just happens.
00;36;04;27 - 00;36;06;06
It's like overnight.
00;36;06;06 - 00;36;09;26
I go back now and my friends, I'm like,
wow, you've got fully got the accent now.
00;36;09;28 - 00;36;12;19
Oh shit. Yeah. Do you know,
is it like, easy to understand?
00;36;14;25 - 00;36;16;24
I. Said, I mean, my, my
00;36;16;24 - 00;36;20;29
uncle, my great uncle is one of the last
kind of era of the farmer boys.
00;36;21;05 - 00;36;26;11
Like, oh, really hard graft
in, like, on the land farmer, farmer boy.
00;36;26;24 - 00;36;30;03
And when he speaks, it's like even
I struggle.
00;36;30;03 - 00;36;32;24
He's speaking really fast.
I mean, I can do an impression of it.
00;36;32;24 - 00;36;34;15
I'll do an impression of my great uncle.
00;36;34;15 - 00;36;35;24
Yeah. Okay.
00;36;35;24 - 00;36;37;09
So when I last saw him, I was just.
00;36;37;09 - 00;36;38;10
We were at my grandma
00;36;38;10 - 00;36;41;13
visiting my grandma in the nursing home,
and he comes over every now and again.
00;36;42;04 - 00;36;45;23
And then he was like,
I was like, you know what, Claire?
00;36;45;23 - 00;36;48;22
We went the doctor the other day,
you know, he's just meeting some people.
00;36;48;22 - 00;36;51;22
We don't we don't know.
00;36;51;22 - 00;36;54;19
And, okay, what do you think I said? The.
00;36;56;14 - 00;36;59;15
You said grandma was at the nursing
home. She.
00;36;59;15 - 00;37;02;09
That's, That's not about the doctor
anymore. Exactly.
00;37;02;09 - 00;37;06;26
Yeah, but I would have used context clues,
you know, I would, it would have taken.
00;37;06;26 - 00;37;07;23
I would have said yes.
00;37;07;23 - 00;37;10;23
And then not knowing what he said
for like three minutes after he said it.
00;37;11;16 - 00;37;15;11
I mean, he I think he well,
I mean, I think I was interpreting.
00;37;15;12 - 00;37;18;27
No, no he said,
he said some you know what?
00;37;18;27 - 00;37;22;15
Claire was at the doctor the other day,
and I was talking to some people
00;37;22;15 - 00;37;25;14
and I realized nobody talks to each other
any more at the doctor.
00;37;26;11 - 00;37;28;08
And he's like, you know,
I always talk to people.
00;37;28;08 - 00;37;29;19
I love talking to people.
00;37;29;19 - 00;37;31;28
Don't use it
maybe don't you don't anymore.
00;37;31;28 - 00;37;34;21
But they smash all together. Wow.
00;37;34;21 - 00;37;36;14
I think what's harder too
is that when it's like
00;37;36;14 - 00;37;39;07
just general conversation
because nothing profound.
00;37;39;07 - 00;37;41;02
So it makes even more harder
because like you're
00;37;41;02 - 00;37;43;13
trying to search for something like, okay,
what did he really say?
00;37;43;13 - 00;37;44;18
And then you like, oh,
00;37;44;18 - 00;37;47;06
he just saying that he was at the doctor
and people don't talk anymore.
00;37;47;06 - 00;37;47;26
Okay.
00;37;47;26 - 00;37;48;16
All right.
00;37;48;16 - 00;37;50;26
Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess that's true.
00;37;50;26 - 00;37;51;16
It is true.
00;37;51;16 - 00;37;53;27
Yeah. It's not like nothing profound,
you know. It is.
00;37;53;27 - 00;37;56;18
I mean, if you think about it enough,
it could be profound.
00;37;56;18 - 00;37;57;07
True.
00;37;57;07 - 00;38;00;08
It's if anything, he's
talking about the increasing,
00;38;01;01 - 00;38;04;01
social isolation
and individualism of the West.
00;38;04;01 - 00;38;06;22
Wow. I guess
now that you put it that way. Yes.
00;38;06;22 - 00;38;08;09
You know, I guess we know with
00;38;08;09 - 00;38;12;14
the accent does come with some higher,
you know, level of, meta, thought.
00;38;12;14 - 00;38;13;06
Right. And then,
00;38;14;06 - 00;38;15;06
you don't have to say that many words.
00;38;15;06 - 00;38;18;11
You just he's like,
oh, that's a good point.
00;38;18;11 - 00;38;18;18
Yeah.
00;38;18;18 - 00;38;23;25
The increasing, you know, addiction is so
social media and our phones, I do agree.
00;38;23;25 - 00;38;24;27
Yeah. Yeah.
00;38;24;27 - 00;38;27;27
If anything, he's really unveiled,
Quite profound.
00;38;27;29 - 00;38;30;17
Commentary on modern. Life.
00;38;30;17 - 00;38;32;11
He's a he's an advanced sociologist.
00;38;32;11 - 00;38;34;29
You don't have to say that
many words to news.
00;38;34;29 - 00;38;35;22
That's good. Yeah.
00;38;35;22 - 00;38;38;25
The social, disparities are happening
due to the, you know.
00;38;39;11 - 00;38;43;08
There's actually a one
major catchphrase of my hometown, which I.
00;38;43;22 - 00;38;47;08
It took me, I don't know, you know,
and someone find it just says it one time
00;38;47;08 - 00;38;49;03
and then you're like, oh, my God, that's
this thing of
00;38;49;03 - 00;38;50;09
we've been hearing a whole lives.
00;38;50;09 - 00;38;54;22
And it often comes from, like the mums,
the mums of my hometown.
00;38;54;25 - 00;38;58;15
And then you say something, something
really like something bad will happen.
00;38;58;15 - 00;39;01;20
Something in the news comes out
and they look at you in this really like,
00;39;02;24 - 00;39;03;14
fearful way.
00;39;03;14 - 00;39;05;22
And they go fearful
but also despairing way.
00;39;05;22 - 00;39;07;14
And they go
00;39;07;14 - 00;39;09;22
that just don't bear thinking about it.
00;39;09;22 - 00;39;12;26
Just don't bear thinking about it,
just doesn't bear thinking about.
00;39;13;01 - 00;39;13;26
That's funny.
00;39;13;26 - 00;39;15;26
Yeah.
They just don't bear thinking about Clare.
00;39;15;26 - 00;39;18;14
We just don't talk about it as horrible.
00;39;18;14 - 00;39;21;10
Yeah. That is I ain't going to lie.
00;39;21;10 - 00;39;22;29
When that the British accent
is so interesting.
00;39;22;29 - 00;39;24;20
Why have you hear
people talk about you be like,
00;39;24;20 - 00;39;26;29
you know, this one here,
like all the angles are like
00;39;26;29 - 00;39;31;05
how they're saying things in the accent,
you know, I've been in Scotland before.
00;39;31;05 - 00;39;32;18
That's a that's a difficult one.
00;39;32;18 - 00;39;35;13
That's a difficult one.
Oh, I can imagine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00;39;35;13 - 00;39;37;11
I have some friends, in Scotland.
00;39;37;11 - 00;39;39;24
Actually, one of my old roommates,
he married a girl in Scotland.
00;39;39;24 - 00;39;40;04
Scotland.
00;39;40;04 - 00;39;40;25
They live together.
00;39;40;25 - 00;39;41;24
And like,
00;39;41;24 - 00;39;45;28
sometimes when she talks, I gotta like,
re, you know, because, like, I know her.
00;39;45;28 - 00;39;47;11
So like, she talks and stuff like that.
00;39;47;11 - 00;39;52;11
And then I got, like, re orient
my brain to be like, oh, okay.
00;39;52;11 - 00;39;53;03
Yeah.
00;39;53;03 - 00;39;54;23
Because I, you know,
sometimes be excited having,
00;39;54;23 - 00;39;55;29
you know,
I haven't seen him in a long time.
00;39;55;29 - 00;39;58;29
So you know she's I talk very fast
and you know there's no like
00;39;58;29 - 00;39;59;19
hey I don't know you.
00;39;59;19 - 00;40;02;05
So me put my best like, you know whatever.
00;40;02;05 - 00;40;04;11
So like and just like, yeah.
00;40;05;11 - 00;40;08;09
And then I'm at a pub drink and I'm like,
oh, I didn't agree to this. Wow.
00;40;08;09 - 00;40;10;12
Okay, this is 3 p.m.. We're drinking.
00;40;10;12 - 00;40;12;28
Imagine being a non-native English speaker
then as well.
00;40;12;28 - 00;40;14;23
Add that to the mix.
00;40;14;23 - 00;40;15;26
Impossible.
00;40;15;26 - 00;40;18;25
It's I mean, when people really get
into that Scottish like, you know.
00;40;18;25 - 00;40;19;05
Yeah.
00;40;19;05 - 00;40;23;23
Whatever is I mean, there's one guy like,
I, I'm talking about like,
00;40;23;24 - 00;40;27;20
it was like your uncle, but even like,
to an extreme level, you like that was,
00;40;28;26 - 00;40;29;29
I'm like.
00;40;29;29 - 00;40;31;28
But he was like, very enthusiastic though.
00;40;31;28 - 00;40;32;21
That's the thing. It's like.
00;40;32;21 - 00;40;36;26
Not like it's like very in your face
and expecting a response.
00;40;37;02 - 00;40;39;17
So I can't bullshitting be like, yeah.
00;40;39;17 - 00;40;41;09
He's of like, no, no, no.
00;40;41;09 - 00;40;42;08
I'm like, fuck.
00;40;42;08 - 00;40;42;20
Okay.
00;40;42;20 - 00;40;45;28
That in that in in tone of the tone,
I got to respond,
00;40;46;14 - 00;40;49;19
you know, and then he's like,
then I, you give me another Guinness.
00;40;49;19 - 00;40;49;29
Right?
00;40;49;29 - 00;40;53;22
So I'm just drinking, getting drunk and
just trying to understand a new language.
00;40;53;23 - 00;40;55;29
Did it get better after the Guinness?
00;40;55;29 - 00;40;59;08
No. Because, every time I drunk halfway to
the Guinness, you gave me more Guinness.
00;40;59;08 - 00;41;01;04
So it just kept on, you know?
00;41;01;04 - 00;41;02;22
Well, famous hospitality, though,
00;41;03;25 - 00;41;04;17
lovely people.
00;41;04;17 - 00;41;06;19
A lot of, a lot of drinking out there.
00;41;06;19 - 00;41;08;22
You know, it's Saint Paddy's Day
on Monday.
00;41;08;22 - 00;41;09;15
Really?
00;41;09;15 - 00;41;11;16
Do people celebrate out here in Berlin?
00;41;11;16 - 00;41;12;02
Yeah.
00;41;12;02 - 00;41;15;15
I mean, so my housemate
and best friend is from Northern Ireland.
00;41;15;23 - 00;41;16;15
Oh, shit.
00;41;16;15 - 00;41;17;25
And so on.
00;41;17;25 - 00;41;18;28
Paddy's day is a big day.
00;41;18;28 - 00;41;21;26
Although this year was so funny.
00;41;21;26 - 00;41;24;22
And like what will. Happen so
00;41;24;22 - 00;41;29;10
Paddy's Day 2025, we were like, okay,
Paddy's Day, we're going to go to the lit.
00;41;29;10 - 00;41;33;08
It's like a Irish pub,
the best Irish pub I've heard in Berlin.
00;41;33;08 - 00;41;34;17
Oh shit.
00;41;34;17 - 00;41;38;09
So on Monday, this Monday we were like,
okay, we're going to go Paddy's Day.
00;41;38;09 - 00;41;39;18
We both finish work early.
00;41;39;18 - 00;41;41;11
We were like 3 p.m., the sun's out.
00;41;41;11 - 00;41;43;17
You know,
it was the full spring last weekend and.
00;41;43;17 - 00;41;44;06
Oh shit.
00;41;44;06 - 00;41;46;15
13 degrees. Yeah. Crazy.
00;41;46;15 - 00;41;48;00
So we were like, right, let's go.
00;41;48;00 - 00;41;51;20
We like put on all of our green
everything with I had the green earring.
00;41;51;20 - 00;41;53;08
She put on a leprechaun outfit.
00;41;53;08 - 00;41;55;17
She's Irish, so it's okay. Okay.
00;41;55;17 - 00;41;58;10
And then she went, Claire,
I was like, what?
00;41;58;10 - 00;41;58;19
She went.
00;41;59;22 - 00;42;01;00
It's the 10th went.
00;42;01;00 - 00;42;01;15
Yeah.
00;42;01;15 - 00;42;04;15
She was like, Paddy's Day is the 17th.
00;42;05;03 - 00;42;07;06
So we were just fully dressed up in green.
00;42;07;06 - 00;42;09;21
She was a leprechaun
and we were one week early.
00;42;09;21 - 00;42;11;14
She went the pubs. Not even open.
00;42;11;14 - 00;42;13;02
Was your one
Harry Potter friend there, too?
00;42;13;02 - 00;42;14;16
Was he
the only one with this other outfit?
00;42;14;16 - 00;42;17;16
Be like, man, this sucks.
00;42;18;08 - 00;42;21;08
It he just the water.
00;42;24;07 - 00;42;24;29
So we were fully
00;42;24;29 - 00;42;29;10
prepared for Paddy's Day, and, Yeah,
it was actually next Monday.
00;42;29;10 - 00;42;29;26
It's not this.
00;42;29;26 - 00;42;31;08
Wow. Well, these guys are prepared.
00;42;31;08 - 00;42;34;10
You know, it's better for you to be, you
know, early, prepared and, you know, late.
00;42;34;18 - 00;42;36;23
But we were it's just so ridiculous.
00;42;36;23 - 00;42;39;00
And I was like, she's Irish.
I was like, you're Irish.
00;42;39;00 - 00;42;41;13
You've got no excuse
to not know that it was Paddy's.
00;42;41;13 - 00;42;44;10
It wasn't Paddy's Day
today. Did you guys go anyways?
00;42;44;10 - 00;42;45;24
Pub was closed,
00;42;45;24 - 00;42;49;21
so we actually, I had to take off my green
clothes, my green makeup,
00;42;50;04 - 00;42;53;12
and instead we just just watched TV and,
like, hung out, which is also great.
00;42;53;12 - 00;42;54;04
I love that, but.
00;42;55;03 - 00;42;55;08
Yeah.
00;42;55;08 - 00;42;56;23
You ready? You this.
00;42;56;23 - 00;42;59;21
I was ready for a whole afternoon of,
like, Guinness.
00;42;59;21 - 00;43;00;09
Yeah.
00;43;00;09 - 00;43;01;13
But you know, I'm also English.
00;43;01;13 - 00;43;03;03
I'm not like,
00;43;03;03 - 00;43;06;23
probably not the most
welcome at the Irish gathering.
00;43;07;26 - 00;43;10;03
Does your accent give it away? Like. Well.
00;43;10;03 - 00;43;12;25
I mean, there's there's always this of
I never know
00;43;12;25 - 00;43;16;06
how seriously to take it, but,
you know, it's obviously Irish people are
00;43;16;11 - 00;43;19;11
historically
not the biggest fans of English people.
00;43;19;16 - 00;43;22;14
Okay. So make sense. It's understandable.
00;43;22;14 - 00;43;26;01
So I thought maybe I could
just be Australian for the evening.
00;43;26;20 - 00;43;27;20
Does that work?
00;43;27;20 - 00;43;30;09
Accent a little bit
and it'll be Australian.
00;43;30;09 - 00;43;31;13
Does that ever work?
00;43;31;13 - 00;43;34;13
Well, I've never tried
to do a whole evening as an Australian,
00;43;34;20 - 00;43;38;01
but people say I people often,
if they guess where I'm from, it's
00;43;38;01 - 00;43;39;29
actually they guess
Australia more than England.
00;43;39;29 - 00;43;41;12
Not from the voice though.
00;43;41;12 - 00;43;44;12
From the general. Yeah.
00;43;44;15 - 00;43;44;26
I think.
00;43;44;26 - 00;43;46;24
You do have a surfer type of like it's.
00;43;46;24 - 00;43;48;25
The hair to begin with. It.
00;43;48;25 - 00;43;51;08
And, I don't know,
I actually have been surfing
00;43;51;08 - 00;43;54;08
as well a lot recently,
so maybe I just give the aura.
00;43;54;13 - 00;43;56;16
Yeah. The Aussie aura.
00;43;56;16 - 00;43;58;14
So I thought, oh,
maybe I'll just try and be Australian.
00;43;58;14 - 00;44;02;18
So she really hard continue an accent,
a fake accent for a long period of time
00;44;02;18 - 00;44;03;25
though. Yeah.
00;44;03;25 - 00;44;05;23
An Australian one that's very specific.
00;44;05;23 - 00;44;08;01
You know, it is specific. Very.
00;44;08;01 - 00;44;09;19
So interesting.
00;44;09;19 - 00;44;11;22
So the accents and stuff like that. Right.
00;44;11;22 - 00;44;15;11
Like and you say you surfed a lot like,
all right, let's go back to that.
00;44;15;11 - 00;44;15;16
Right.
00;44;15;16 - 00;44;17;16
Because surfing
I feel like surfing is one of those things
00;44;17;16 - 00;44;21;06
that I don't know how people get into it
unless they live near to water.
00;44;21;14 - 00;44;25;10
So was that something that you did like,
you know, when you grew up? No.
00;44;25;19 - 00;44;27;10
Not so. I grew up on the beach.
00;44;27;10 - 00;44;31;09
I grew up one street from the beach,
but the beach was the North Sea.
00;44;31;09 - 00;44;32;17
It was the England.
00;44;32;17 - 00;44;35;02
You know, I don't live on the right side
of England for surf.
00;44;35;02 - 00;44;36;29
I live on the east coast,
which is the North Sea,
00;44;36;29 - 00;44;38;29
not the West coast, which is the Atlantic.
00;44;38;29 - 00;44;42;06
So I did grow up next to the beach,
but never surfing.
00;44;42;06 - 00;44;45;02
But I don't know, I always had this.
00;44;45;02 - 00;44;46;21
I always knew I wanted to try it one day.
00;44;46;21 - 00;44;50;03
So I went, I did a, I did a surf lesson
in the Canary Islands
00;44;50;03 - 00;44;53;07
like many years ago, and it was
00;44;54;09 - 00;44;55;10
pretty bad.
00;44;55;10 - 00;44;58;00
Obviously the when you start serving,
it's terrible.
00;44;58;00 - 00;45;00;21
Yeah. So I mean, you know, series the.
00;45;00;21 - 00;45;02;12
I sort of know
there's some irony in the sport
00;45;02;12 - 00;45;06;07
in that the, the, the,
the hardest conditions for a while will be
00;45;06;19 - 00;45;10;09
when you're a beginner because you have
the biggest board, the most buoyant board,
00;45;10;09 - 00;45;14;07
and you're in where the water is crashing
in the whitewater constant like,
00;45;15;05 - 00;45;19;19
like fending off huge, like huge waves
of defending, of waves breaking on you.
00;45;19;19 - 00;45;19;26
So it's
00;45;19;26 - 00;45;23;25
actually the most kind of exhausting part
is when you're a complete beginner.
00;45;24;00 - 00;45;28;08
So I think it filters out people who will
continue with the sport and who won't.
00;45;29;05 - 00;45;31;24
Yeah, but then I didn't do it again
for like 3 or 4 years.
00;45;31;24 - 00;45;34;21
And then I went to Morocco on holiday.
00;45;34;21 - 00;45;35;16
I did it for like a week.
00;45;35;16 - 00;45;37;16
And that served in Morocco.
00;45;37;16 - 00;45;40;07
Yeah, they yeah I what. Yeah.
00;45;40;07 - 00;45;42;21
That's what I did like a six day
serve course.
00;45;42;21 - 00;45;46;03
And that's
when I started like really surfing.
00;45;46;12 - 00;45;47;09
And then I went to work.
00;45;47;09 - 00;45;50;01
I always have been in Sri Lanka. Just.
00;45;50;01 - 00;45;51;13
Busy for fun.
00;45;51;13 - 00;45;54;00
And then this year I was in South India.
00;45;54;00 - 00;45;56;23
I was in Kerala surfing,
which is somewhere
00;45;56;23 - 00;45;58;19
I didn't even know
you could surf to be honest.
00;45;58;19 - 00;46;00;22
It's not publicly not known really.
00;46;00;22 - 00;46;02;09
But yeah, that's fun. Wow.
00;46;02;09 - 00;46;05;23
Yo. Okay, this is one thing I, I mean,
this is like a strong assumption,
00;46;05;23 - 00;46;09;13
but, like, surfing, every time I talk to
somebody that, like, surf.
00;46;09;13 - 00;46;12;13
And every time it's like the three people
I know, right?
00;46;13;01 - 00;46;16;09
Is that it would be exotic places
where you guys are surfing, right?
00;46;16;09 - 00;46;18;07
Like,
I didn't know you could surf from Morocco.
00;46;18;07 - 00;46;20;17
You know what I mean? I don't even know
that was even possible in India.
00;46;20;17 - 00;46;21;19
So it's like,
00;46;21;19 - 00;46;24;17
I wonder if surfing really helps
you explore more because you're
00;46;24;17 - 00;46;26;17
trying to find places where you can surf.
00;46;26;17 - 00;46;28;06
You find these obscure places.
00;46;28;06 - 00;46;30;20
100%,
but they're not obscure, to be honest.
00;46;30;20 - 00;46;34;17
Like most of the places that everyone goes
to surf, like Sri Lanka, Portland,
00;46;34;18 - 00;46;37;20
well, Bali on Indonesia is very busy.
00;46;37;29 - 00;46;39;19
Morocco is super busy.
00;46;39;19 - 00;46;40;04
Really?
00;46;40;04 - 00;46;41;07
Yeah, it's really weird.
00;46;41;07 - 00;46;43;29
Like I'm going to go to Morocco
in two weeks.
00;46;43;29 - 00;46;45;08
Actually. No. Nice.
00;46;45;08 - 00;46;49;19
And but yeah, it's there's a lot I think
surfing is very trendy at the moment.
00;46;49;20 - 00;46;50;28
I mean I'm not exempt.
00;46;50;28 - 00;46;54;03
I got into it like a year ago,
but it's really trendy
00;46;54;08 - 00;46;57;10
and there's like the surf schools are just
there's
00;46;57;10 - 00;47;01;07
so many people in the water at one point,
there's so many people that's dangerous.
00;47;01;20 - 00;47;02;29
It can get a bit dangerous.
00;47;02;29 - 00;47;05;22
Yeah, get on boards are big like them
shits are like that.
00;47;05;22 - 00;47;08;05
Like, yeah, eight, nine feet shit.
00;47;08;05 - 00;47;10;22
Like, hold on.
Because I know a lot of you.
00;47;10;22 - 00;47;14;10
First time surfing
and you got a big ass board like.
00;47;14;16 - 00;47;16;16
And then that you're going to be thrown
off of it.
00;47;16;16 - 00;47;20;18
Anything you being thrown off of and
is more than six feet, that is a problem.
00;47;20;20 - 00;47;21;02
Yeah.
00;47;21;02 - 00;47;22;04
So like how the hell
00;47;22;04 - 00;47;26;00
you had the courage to like, you know,
first of all, go onto the high waters,
00;47;27;02 - 00;47;29;18
eight eight foot board, whatever.
00;47;29;18 - 00;47;33;09
And then you're trying to, like,
surf the waters that are crashing.
00;47;34;10 - 00;47;36;22
That isn't that is,
00;47;36;22 - 00;47;38;12
You make it sound crazy. Yeah.
00;47;38;12 - 00;47;42;20
Crashing a foot board in the in the ocean.
00;47;42;20 - 00;47;44;05
The unknowns.
00;47;44;05 - 00;47;45;04
Yeah. You know, but.
00;47;45;04 - 00;47;47;15
Do you have these moments
sometimes where I'm like,
00;47;47;15 - 00;47;50;11
especially if you're out in the deep water
and you're just, like, paddling around
00;47;50;11 - 00;47;52;22
and you're sat there for a minute
and you're like,
00;47;52;22 - 00;47;55;23
I'm really far away from things right now.
00;47;55;23 - 00;47;59;12
And you're like, maybe there is a shark
about to eat me right now.
00;48;00;04 - 00;48;02;02
And you just push right past that.
00;48;02;02 - 00;48;03;22
Well, no, I do think about it sometimes.
00;48;03;22 - 00;48;06;22
And then I'm like,
can't really do much about it.
00;48;07;07 - 00;48;08;28
I mean, I set the paddle back.
00;48;08;28 - 00;48;13;05
I mean, you can just go right back to
shore is like I mean, he's like, hey,
00;48;13;14 - 00;48;16;17
You know, like if there is a great white
within a two meter vicinity,
00;48;16;17 - 00;48;17;14
I've got no chance.
00;48;18;17 - 00;48;19;21
You at least try
00;48;19;21 - 00;48;22;15
me, at least be like,
hey, let me at least try.
00;48;22;15 - 00;48;23;28
I did say I gave it a shot before.
00;48;23;28 - 00;48;26;29
I get any like, you know, anytime
I feel even like a brush of my foot,
00;48;26;29 - 00;48;28;16
I'm like, there's a great white. I'm up.
00;48;28;16 - 00;48;32;03
I am in it's
jaw that is just about to get chewed up.
00;48;32;18 - 00;48;33;22
But actually I don't really.
00;48;33;22 - 00;48;36;26
So I haven't surfed anywhere where apart
from one place of which there's,
00;48;37;11 - 00;48;40;04
sharks, there's actually many waters
where they're not sharks.
00;48;40;04 - 00;48;43;11
There's like, sure, there's like jellyfish
and like trash, but sharks
00;48;44;15 - 00;48;46;02
not so much for me.
00;48;46;02 - 00;48;48;28
But jellyfish. Are you scared of that?
00;48;48;28 - 00;48;52;10
I haven't been stung enough by bad
jellyfish to be scared.
00;48;52;10 - 00;48;53;16
I haven't developed a fear yet.
00;48;53;16 - 00;48;56;14
Wait, wait, wait. Did we say bad
jellyfish? There's good jelly.
00;48;56;14 - 00;48;58;09
There's like. Small jellyfish.
So it's just like.
00;48;58;09 - 00;48;59;13
Oh, okay, that's annoying.
00;48;59;13 - 00;49;02;08
And then there's, like, bad jellyfish.
00;49;02;08 - 00;49;03;26
Yeah, like the. Those blue. Ones.
00;49;03;26 - 00;49;05;07
The man of war, like, was the first.
00;49;05;07 - 00;49;06;09
Portuguese man of war.
00;49;06;09 - 00;49;09;07
That thing is like 40m long lashes.
00;49;09;07 - 00;49;11;01
But they live in way far out.
00;49;11;01 - 00;49;11;20
Oh, okay.
00;49;11;20 - 00;49;13;04
They're living in the suburbs.
00;49;13;04 - 00;49;15;00
In the suburbs, just not in the city.
00;49;15;00 - 00;49;16;24
Yeah, in the city limits.
00;49;16;24 - 00;49;17;29
I don't know, I don't
00;49;17;29 - 00;49;20;18
I haven't heard of many people
being attacked by a man in war.
00;49;20;18 - 00;49;22;24
I mean, maybe because they did.
00;49;22;24 - 00;49;23;08
Yeah. Yeah.
00;49;23;08 - 00;49;27;01
I mean, once you were that far out
on a surfboard and you get some guy that.
00;49;27;10 - 00;49;28;22
Just comes out and it's like.
00;49;28;22 - 00;49;30;14
Okay, have you seen a jellyfish?
00;49;30;14 - 00;49;32;09
Have you seen
one with your own eyes? Like,
00;49;33;08 - 00;49;33;26
I've only seen the
00;49;33;26 - 00;49;36;26
tiny blue ones,
but they're actually really dangerous.
00;49;37;23 - 00;49;40;15
You okay? This is I love this, right.
00;49;40;15 - 00;49;43;06
This is where cultural differences
come into play, right? Because.
00;49;43;06 - 00;49;44;17
All right, I'm here.
00;49;44;17 - 00;49;46;28
You say this and you're like,
yeah, it looks kind of nice.
00;49;46;28 - 00;49;47;28
Let's go. Oh my god.
00;49;47;28 - 00;49;48;22
Like wow though.
00;49;48;22 - 00;49;51;00
Otherwise like, you know
you know you're very passive about it.
00;49;51;00 - 00;49;53;22
And for me I'm
just like you said jellyfish.
00;49;53;22 - 00;49;55;09
No, you said shark.
00;49;55;09 - 00;49;58;23
No. You said something brushing
on your leg, and you thought I was like,
00;49;58;23 - 00;50;00;00
well, never surfing ever again.
00;50;00;00 - 00;50;01;26
My life, that is
00;50;01;26 - 00;50;04;26
what unconfirmed brushes on your foot.
00;50;05;08 - 00;50;07;02
Who knows? This one around now?
00;50;07;02 - 00;50;08;07
Maybe a jellyfish following.
00;50;08;07 - 00;50;10;27
You know what I mean? Right now. Right
now? Know.
00;50;10;27 - 00;50;12;21
Probably
got the scent of your of your board.
00;50;12;21 - 00;50;14;25
And now you go back into that water. Boom.
00;50;14;25 - 00;50;15;11
You know, you see.
00;50;15;11 - 00;50;17;28
So that's my cultural thing and.
00;50;17;28 - 00;50;20;16
A cultural difference.
Is that how Americans think?
00;50;20;16 - 00;50;23;15
No, no, no, this is this is I'm sorry.
Let me bring a racial a little bit.
00;50;23;15 - 00;50;26;18
So this is, something that I've noticed,
right?
00;50;26;18 - 00;50;29;23
In terms of like, say,
let me just say black people, right?
00;50;30;09 - 00;50;33;07
When it comes to this,
when it comes to anything of the ocean
00;50;33;07 - 00;50;37;06
or the forest or anything like that,
we are very sensitive to what's inside.
00;50;37;16 - 00;50;39;16
So we're questioning everything about it.
00;50;39;16 - 00;50;41;29
And it's hard to even,
00;50;43;04 - 00;50;45;20
I guess, mentally even entertain
00;50;45;20 - 00;50;50;14
the thought of like having a maybe
and entering that world of ocean or force.
00;50;50;25 - 00;50;53;24
So when I'm asking you, like, I'm like,
hey, is there any sharks that
00;50;54;14 - 00;50;57;19
you know, me
or you know, any jellyfish thing?
00;50;57;19 - 00;50;59;25
So, you know, you know, some brush
maybe you like.
00;50;59;25 - 00;51;01;29
Yeah, I think I don't even know.
00;51;01;29 - 00;51;06;17
I'm just like, whoa, look, if I'm in
the water, first of all, everything stops.
00;51;06;21 - 00;51;07;26
It's on the brush. My foot.
00;51;07;26 - 00;51;08;22
I'm. I'm putting my.
00;51;08;22 - 00;51;10;24
I'm like, all right, call the authorities.
00;51;10;24 - 00;51;13;24
When you bring the team out here,
something brush my leg.
00;51;14;00 - 00;51;14;26
This is a problem.
00;51;14;26 - 00;51;15;17
This is a state.
00;51;15;17 - 00;51;17;01
This is stage four.
00;51;17;01 - 00;51;18;27
You know, alert level.
00;51;18;27 - 00;51;21;11
We need to solve this.
And then if there's sharks,
00;51;23;03 - 00;51;25;02
I would never go to that place.
00;51;25;02 - 00;51;26;25
I'm not flying there.
00;51;26;25 - 00;51;28;02
Yeah. Fair enough. Yeah.
00;51;28;02 - 00;51;31;02
So you know. The sharks a lot in the US.
00;51;31;02 - 00;51;32;09
It has mass. Yeah.
00;51;32;09 - 00;51;33;20
That's why I know, you know.
00;51;33;20 - 00;51;36;20
Going out there in the water. There.
00;51;36;26 - 00;51;40;25
I since I don't I
if anything this what I would do at best
00;51;40;27 - 00;51;44;20
I would let people go out into the ocean
and just see how things respond.
00;51;44;20 - 00;51;46;23
You know, I mean, I, you know, I,
I sit there for like 30 minutes.
00;51;46;23 - 00;51;50;14
I'm like, oh, you know,
my legs is missing those screams.
00;51;50;14 - 00;51;52;07
Not that now like, oh my God.
00;51;52;07 - 00;51;55;09
I'm like, okay, now I can go now,
you can go now, I can go in there. You.
00;51;55;18 - 00;51;58;02
The others have been the test subjects.
00;51;58;02 - 00;52;00;15
You know,
but yeah, going out into the ocean
00;52;00;15 - 00;52;03;19
like with the longboard
and it's like you, you far out.
00;52;03;28 - 00;52;05;05
Yeah. And you, you have enough.
00;52;05;05 - 00;52;07;20
You don't have enough time to
to to paddle back and to the short.
00;52;07;20 - 00;52;08;18
That is far.
00;52;08;18 - 00;52;11;15
Yeah, yeah. Sometimes it is quite far.
00;52;11;15 - 00;52;14;18
And sometimes I do have that moment
where I'm like, oh my God, I could just
00;52;14;18 - 00;52;15;06
die here.
00;52;17;04 - 00;52;17;29
But people,
00;52;17;29 - 00;52;20;26
I have that moment
a lot in normal life. No.
00;52;20;26 - 00;52;21;28
Like true
00;52;21;28 - 00;52;26;08
you driving a car or on a bike and you're
just like one thing could go wrong.
00;52;26;08 - 00;52;29;07
And, did. You write about that? Yeah,
especially the bike too.
00;52;29;07 - 00;52;31;14
Yeah, yeah. Bikes. You can just fall.
00;52;31;14 - 00;52;33;10
Yeah. Bike.
00;52;33;10 - 00;52;34;28
What else is dangerous?
00;52;34;28 - 00;52;36;01
Well, many things, you.
00;52;36;01 - 00;52;38;11
Know, skateboarding, longboarding.
00;52;38;11 - 00;52;40;08
Longboarding. Yeah.
00;52;40;08 - 00;52;41;12
Driving a scooter.
00;52;41;12 - 00;52;44;01
Also having a scooter.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. True.
00;52;44;01 - 00;52;45;21
Especially on a cobblestone roads. Right.
00;52;45;21 - 00;52;49;05
You know, every time I'm driving a scooter
on the cobblestone road, I just, I just,
00;52;49;20 - 00;52;51;10
I just feel like I might go into that one.
00;52;51;10 - 00;52;53;27
Little point on just. Oh, yeah,
I know what you mean.
00;52;53;27 - 00;52;56;05
And, you know, it hurts the hands so much.
00;52;56;05 - 00;52;58;01
Oh, it's like.
00;52;58;01 - 00;52;58;08
It's.
00;52;58;08 - 00;52;59;00
Like, no,
00;52;59;00 - 00;53;03;21
I don't think my bones can actually take
I think like my natural suspension
00;53;04;23 - 00;53;05;26
be destroyed.
00;53;05;26 - 00;53;06;16
Because of, like.
00;53;06;16 - 00;53;09;16
A few cobblestone roads in a lime
scooter. Wow.
00;53;09;16 - 00;53;11;05
I think my, you know, the what is it?
00;53;11;05 - 00;53;13;13
The cartilage between the joints
probably absolutely
00;53;13;13 - 00;53;16;02
drained just from, like,
one session up in principle.
00;53;16;02 - 00;53;19;10
But yeah, I mean, can you hurt your teeth
and everything's rattling?
00;53;19;22 - 00;53;22;28
This is do your brain usually like, wow,
my brain, my thoughts are being scrambled
00;53;22;28 - 00;53;25;28
in real time as I'm like,
you know, it's crazy.
00;53;25;29 - 00;53;26;23
It's wow.
00;53;26;23 - 00;53;27;06
Yeah.
00;53;27;06 - 00;53;28;23
It's to the point where it's like,
all right,
00;53;28;23 - 00;53;30;07
maybe I should just go on the sidewalk,
like,
00;53;30;07 - 00;53;34;07
what am I trying to obey the rules and
and sacrifice my body for the rules?
00;53;34;07 - 00;53;37;03
I need to go on the sidewalk.
This is crazy. Yeah. You know.
00;53;37;03 - 00;53;40;23
But then people don't like
if you're on the sidewalk pavement.
00;53;41;13 - 00;53;43;01
Yeah. Vague.
00;53;43;01 - 00;53;46;13
You know, I mean,
but they hopefully to understand
00;53;46;15 - 00;53;49;14
other that is either that on the sidewalk
or you on the cobblestone.
00;53;49;14 - 00;53;50;23
You looking crazy because I don't know.
00;53;50;23 - 00;53;52;19
I hope you feel like a little crazy.
My favorite.
00;53;52;19 - 00;53;56;10
You know, I feel like a motorboat
boating the air, you know,
00;53;58;06 - 00;53;59;00
I'm trying to keep a straight
00;53;59;00 - 00;54;02;02
face on a scooter on cobblestone.
00;54;03;20 - 00;54;05;03
I'm just like, I look so stupid.
00;54;05;03 - 00;54;07;03
Why did I take this road?
I should have just walked.
00;54;07;03 - 00;54;09;07
Yeah,
I should have been late and just walked.
00;54;09;07 - 00;54;10;03
Yeah, exactly.
00;54;10;03 - 00;54;12;07
Now I'm coming to this meeting
with a frazzled brain.
00;54;12;07 - 00;54;14;24
Yeah. How you been
00;54;14;24 - 00;54;17;24
now? Sound like Uncle.
00;54;18;12 - 00;54;21;06
What are you from the south of us? You.
00;54;21;06 - 00;54;23;02
You know
00;54;23;02 - 00;54;24;03
I don't.
00;54;24;03 - 00;54;26;09
The scooter that covers
those are so crazy.
00;54;26;09 - 00;54;28;21
Had me speak at a different,
English accent.
00;54;28;21 - 00;54;30;00
Yeah. It's crazy.
00;54;30;00 - 00;54;33;01
You know, it's like when people
have an aneurysm and then they. Or.
00;54;33;14 - 00;54;34;09
What is it, a stroke?
00;54;34;09 - 00;54;36;26
And they have a different accent
afterwards. Yeah.
00;54;36;26 - 00;54;37;26
You know, that's mad.
00;54;37;26 - 00;54;38;09
There you go.
00;54;38;09 - 00;54;39;16
I'm basically having a mini stroke
00;54;39;16 - 00;54;42;13
when every time I was going on
a lime scooter on the cobblestones.
00;54;42;13 - 00;54;44;06
Exactly. You know, just, you know,
00;54;45;24 - 00;54;47;23
like, I should rather get a bike,
you know?
00;54;47;23 - 00;54;48;04
Yeah.
00;54;48;04 - 00;54;50;21
Also bad, but not as bad for some reason.
00;54;50;21 - 00;54;51;07
Yeah.
00;54;51;07 - 00;54;53;14
Have you ever had an accident
on your bike?
00;54;53;14 - 00;54;55;25
Yeah.
00;54;55;25 - 00;54;57;10
Of course.
00;54;57;10 - 00;54;59;18
Everyone does this like a, No.
00;54;59;18 - 00;55;02;05
Once a year thing. Like,
it happens. Once a year.
00;55;02;05 - 00;55;03;10
Maybe once every two years.
00;55;03;10 - 00;55;05;04
Wow. Not a bad one.
00;55;05;04 - 00;55;05;24
Okay. Just a little.
00;55;05;24 - 00;55;08;12
Scrawny, like falling off or something.
00;55;08;12 - 00;55;11;02
Yeah. Or the, it's happened twice. Where?
00;55;11;02 - 00;55;14;01
When the leaves fall in the autumn.
00;55;14;02 - 00;55;15;15
Are, you know. Okay.
00;55;15;15 - 00;55;17;05
Then they,
00;55;17;05 - 00;55;20;24
the leaves go on, and then it gets
wet on the ground, and it's very slippery.
00;55;21;00 - 00;55;23;27
So you're biking and then you break
and it's just like all the grips gone.
00;55;23;27 - 00;55;26;16
And that's happened to me twice
where it's just like, well.
00;55;26;16 - 00;55;28;09
And then you just on the floor there.
00;55;28;09 - 00;55;30;26
Oh, well,
I did have a scooter accident in India,
00;55;30;26 - 00;55;34;13
which was way, way scarier,
I suppose potentially.
00;55;34;24 - 00;55;37;22
But I was going luckily quite slowly
and I just sort of like
00;55;37;22 - 00;55;40;16
fell off the side, like slowly.
00;55;40;16 - 00;55;42;21
Yeah. It felt quite slowly slow.
00;55;42;21 - 00;55;46;28
And then I also had my iPhone tucked
into my top and it just kind of fell out.
00;55;47;11 - 00;55;50;03
But I was I was okay. So. Oh, okay.
00;55;50;03 - 00;55;51;29
Yeah. Wow. You be taking a lot of risk.
00;55;53;02 - 00;55;54;01
Yeah.
00;55;54;01 - 00;55;54;22
Yeah.
00;55;54;22 - 00;55;57;08
That's fucking that's fucking crazy.
00;55;57;08 - 00;56;00;05
It doesn't sound I mean I think
I think I'm quite safe generally.
00;56;00;05 - 00;56;01;15
My mum was watching watching this.
00;56;01;15 - 00;56;03;28
She'll be like, oh like the. Clip.
00;56;03;28 - 00;56;05;18
Didn't tell me that.
00;56;05;18 - 00;56;06;25
Oh. Sorry, sorry.
00;56;06;25 - 00;56;07;12
Sorry, mom.
00;56;07;12 - 00;56;10;00
Hey, this is just all for,
podcast purposes.
00;56;10;00 - 00;56;12;25
It may not be true.
It may just be just part of.
00;56;12;25 - 00;56;14;08
Have been changed to protect the.
00;56;14;08 - 00;56;17;04
Identities of the story.
00;56;17;04 - 00;56;19;15
So. So you,
So you have a lot going on, right?
00;56;19;15 - 00;56;23;05
So you're a journalist, you're a producer,
you have created a movie, even,
00;56;23;16 - 00;56;26;06
out there in India, right? A documentary.
00;56;26;06 - 00;56;27;01
This is a documentary.
00;56;27;01 - 00;56;31;01
So, how was the, tell us a little bit
about that in terms of, like,
00;56;31;01 - 00;56;34;27
you create a documentary in India,
which is pretty impressive.
00;56;35;09 - 00;56;36;17
It was very random.
00;56;36;17 - 00;56;40;25
I mean, I've been working as a multimedia
journalist for a few years here
00;56;40;25 - 00;56;44;27
at Deutsche Avila in Germany,
and but I've never been behind the camera.
00;56;44;27 - 00;56;47;29
I've either written and produced it
or presented the piece,
00;56;47;29 - 00;56;49;21
but I've never filmed it.
00;56;49;21 - 00;56;52;19
And I thought, okay,
I want to try it, I'm going to try it.
00;56;52;19 - 00;56;56;16
So I rented a camera
and then I went to India,
00;56;56;19 - 00;57;01;19
kind of as a long holiday last 2023
or early 2024.
00;57;02;11 - 00;57;05;02
And I was and I just kind of waited
for something to catch me.
00;57;05;02 - 00;57;07;24
I didn't know what I was going
to cover there. I didn't I had no idea.
00;57;07;24 - 00;57;09;12
And I'd never done this whole
00;57;09;12 - 00;57;13;04
from beginning to end production
with no supervisor, no editor.
00;57;13;04 - 00;57;16;09
So I was just like, okay, when the story
comes, the story will come, right?
00;57;16;11 - 00;57;17;05
And then I was
00;57;17;05 - 00;57;21;11
in this town in Goa for a long time, and
I was going to the chai shop every day.
00;57;21;11 - 00;57;21;28
It's like, you know,
00;57;21;28 - 00;57;25;27
the tea shop and it's just a staple
of like the Indian lifestyle.
00;57;25;27 - 00;57;27;09
This is Morning Chai.
00;57;27;09 - 00;57;30;28
So I was going there and,
meeting all these different characters,
00;57;30;28 - 00;57;34;17
but recurring characters, it was a place
that people just always go to.
00;57;34;17 - 00;57;37;17
And it's a
it's like a social hub, a community hub.
00;57;37;17 - 00;57;40;17
And it's been there for decades.
00;57;40;22 - 00;57;43;22
And yeah, the the interior design
00;57;43;22 - 00;57;47;01
has remained the same for decades,
and the menu remains the same for decades.
00;57;47;15 - 00;57;50;15
And, I don't know, I just went there a lot
and I
00;57;51;09 - 00;57;53;29
met some very eccentric, bizarre people.
00;57;53;29 - 00;57;56;05
And I thought, okay, this is a story
I want to tell.
00;57;56;05 - 00;57;57;04
I want to do this.
00;57;57;04 - 00;57;58;03
This shows show,
00;57;58;03 - 00;57;59;03
because I did meet this one
00;57;59;03 - 00;58;02;07
particular person who ended up being
the protagonist, who was,
00;58;03;11 - 00;58;04;06
yeah, a little bit.
00;58;04;06 - 00;58;07;03
He was very eccentric. This say. Okay.
00;58;07;03 - 00;58;09;29
And he was like, this is the most
magical place in the world.
00;58;09;29 - 00;58;10;23
It's the best.
00;58;10;23 - 00;58;11;17
I shop in India.
00;58;11;17 - 00;58;14;00
And I was like, okay, here
we go, I'm going to do it.
00;58;14;00 - 00;58;15;13
So now I just ask the question, like,
00;58;15;13 - 00;58;18;05
is this the most magical show
I show up in India and why?
00;58;18;05 - 00;58;19;24
And then we answered the question
00;58;19;24 - 00;58;22;24
or sort of answered
the question in the documentary.
00;58;23;10 - 00;58;27;18
And it was it was good for me because
like, I made it in the style that was it
00;58;27;18 - 00;58;31;26
was documentary, but it also was humorous,
which I think is my style.
00;58;32;21 - 00;58;35;27
It's I, I've tried to do other things
before which are more serious, but
00;58;36;07 - 00;58;37;03
and I can do it.
00;58;37;03 - 00;58;42;05
But I think my natural storytelling
is more on like the humor side.
00;58;42;19 - 00;58;45;06
So I'm going to pursue that rather
00;58;45;06 - 00;58;48;06
than trying to be very earnest
and very serious.
00;58;48;11 - 00;58;49;13
So yeah, that was it.
00;58;49;13 - 00;58;52;21
And then this time in India, I made an
I shot another film.
00;58;52;21 - 00;58;56;27
This one is about the
the toddy shops of Kerala.
00;58;56;27 - 00;58;58;06
The toddy shops.
00;58;58;06 - 00;58;58;24
Yeah.
00;58;58;24 - 00;59;01;21
It's, I kept being told
all we need to go to the toddy shop.
00;59;01;21 - 00;59;04;17
We have to go to the toy shop.
And I was like, what is a toddy shop?
00;59;04;17 - 00;59;08;12
And it's a basically a drinking
establishment and restaurant out,
00;59;08;20 - 00;59;11;23
usually out on the outskirts of towns,
in the jungle.
00;59;12;00 - 00;59;14;27
And they serve this, palm wine
00;59;14;27 - 00;59;17;26
that they collect every morning
from the sap of a palm tree.
00;59;17;26 - 00;59;18;22
So they just collect it
00;59;18;22 - 00;59;22;07
in these big buckets, and it's basically
like a fermented coconut wine.
00;59;22;15 - 00;59;22;25
Right.
00;59;22;25 - 00;59;25;24
And they sit
and it has a shelf life of only 24 hours.
00;59;25;24 - 00;59;27;18
And they just have it in these liter
bottles.
00;59;27;18 - 00;59;32;09
They bring it out to you and they serve
spicy seafood basically with it.
00;59;32;09 - 00;59;35;19
And people just sit there for hours
and hours drinking this kind of
00;59;35;23 - 00;59;39;06
I think it's like same alcohol
percentages be like three 3%,
00;59;40;07 - 00;59;41;27
palm wine, straight, tucking
00;59;41;27 - 00;59;47;18
into the most delicious spicy fish
and just hanging out under the palm trees.
00;59;47;18 - 00;59;48;15
So I made this.
00;59;48;15 - 00;59;50;07
That was my second film.
00;59;50;07 - 00;59;52;28
So I'm working. I'm editing that now.
00;59;52;28 - 00;59;58;15
And yeah, I think I've, I've got
an interest in these third spaces maybe.
00;59;59;06 - 01;00;02;25
So, you know, there's the first space,
the home, the second spaces, the work
01;00;02;25 - 01;00;03;24
and the third spaces.
01;00;03;24 - 01;00;06;26
Formerly, I guess, what
used to be in the West, like the church.
01;00;06;26 - 01;00;07;15
Right, right.
01;00;07;15 - 01;00;10;22
An institution that's not commercial,
but a gathering point, like a.
01;00;11;19 - 01;00;14;17
Yeah, for a social point for people.
01;00;14;17 - 01;00;14;27
And I think
01;00;14;27 - 01;00;18;05
now the third space in the West
is sort of eroded and it's been replaced
01;00;18;05 - 01;00;21;19
by commercial premises, and that we meet
and we hang out mainly in,
01;00;21;20 - 01;00;24;08
you know, bars and restaurants
and cafes. Right.
01;00;24;08 - 01;00;28;18
But I think there's a big drive towards
getting back.
01;00;28;18 - 01;00;30;15
That's that third space.
01;00;30;15 - 01;00;30;28
I don't know.
01;00;30;28 - 01;00;34;26
And I think now I'm attracted to these,
the idea of these third spaces
01;00;34;26 - 01;00;37;27
and of course like the chai shop, the tree
shop, they're still commercial premises,
01;00;38;02 - 01;00;40;17
but people are hanging out there
for a long time.
01;00;40;17 - 01;00;42;18
These are like recurring people
who go there a lot.
01;00;42;18 - 01;00;45;10
This is a huge part of their life. Wow.
01;00;45;10 - 01;00;46;21
And this is what I find interesting.
01;00;46;21 - 01;00;49;21
So these are now, I think the third film
01;00;49;22 - 01;00;53;09
I would like to also explore
like a third space in Berlin.
01;00;54;28 - 01;00;55;20
Yeah.
01;00;55;20 - 01;00;56;05
It might be.
01;00;56;05 - 01;00;59;26
It could be something like, foreign,
like a club or something like this.
01;01;00;15 - 01;01;03;00
My friend just told me that his friend,
01;01;03;00 - 01;01;06;19
his roommate, is attending a humanist,
like, spiritualist church.
01;01;06;27 - 01;01;08;04
Humanist? Okay. Yeah.
01;01;08;04 - 01;01;11;03
So it's not, it's not Christian. It's not.
01;01;11;03 - 01;01;14;26
I don't know, whatever, any major
religion, church, but it's a church
01;01;14;26 - 01;01;18;12
that's non traditionally religious
but based on more humanist principles.
01;01;19;08 - 01;01;22;20
And I mean that to me
is like a complete example
01;01;22;20 - 01;01;27;03
of the modern desire
to get back that sense of community.
01;01;27;03 - 01;01;29;12
I think we've, we've gone
very far into that.
01;01;29;12 - 01;01;32;12
The individualism
and the atomization of society
01;01;32;15 - 01;01;35;21
and now people and digitalization
perhaps as well.
01;01;35;21 - 01;01;39;01
And now people actually want
that old feeling of yeah,
01;01;39;04 - 01;01;43;07
the community and the what the church
perhaps used to facilitate and offer.
01;01;44;08 - 01;01;46;26
So, yeah, these
are, these are things that I'm beginning
01;01;46;26 - 01;01;50;01
to find is coming through in my own work.
01;01;50;24 - 01;01;51;27
Yeah, in a roundabout way.
01;01;51;27 - 01;01;52;21
But I think,
01;01;52;21 - 01;01;55;02
I think it's very easy to go abroad
and find these stories
01;01;55;02 - 01;01;56;24
because you're in a new place
and everything
01;01;56;24 - 01;02;00;04
that's exciting and different and colors
and different accents,
01;02;00;04 - 01;02;00;25
different languages.
01;02;00;25 - 01;02;03;14
But then I'm like, I live in Berlin,
I need to do stuff.
01;02;03;14 - 01;02;06;15
Also here people find the Berlin
fascinating, you know?
01;02;06;15 - 01;02;08;21
Yeah, you do a series on the average
German, right?
01;02;08;21 - 01;02;11;02
So, you know,
that's kind of have to start exploring.
01;02;11;02 - 01;02;13;20
I mean, do you get I'm assuming
you get recognized on these streets.
01;02;13;20 - 01;02;14;11
All right.
01;02;14;11 - 01;02;15;15
Oh no, not at all.
01;02;15;15 - 01;02;18;15
So you don't get recognized really
01;02;18;20 - 01;02;22;00
because there's on Deutsche Valley
that's a very popular show.
01;02;22;01 - 01;02;22;28
Like, you know.
01;02;22;28 - 01;02;24;23
It is a popular show, but it's for him.
01;02;24;23 - 01;02;26;16
It's mainly
for the international audience.
01;02;26;16 - 01;02;29;27
The Germans are what I mean, actually,
we do like analytics wise.
01;02;29;27 - 01;02;34;01
We do get a lot of Germans
who watch the show, but no, actually,
01;02;34;01 - 01;02;36;17
I don't think I've been recognized
from TikTok before
01;02;36;17 - 01;02;38;28
because I used to be quite active on
Tik Tok
01;02;38;28 - 01;02;42;13
back into an even back in the 2020,
like unhinged Covid era.
01;02;42;17 - 01;02;44;13
Yeah, I was quite big on TikTok.
01;02;44;13 - 01;02;45;29
I used to just make weird videos,
01;02;47;01 - 01;02;49;06
like kind of comedy
01;02;49;06 - 01;02;53;19
sketches about Berlin and comparing it
to where I've lived before.
01;02;54;07 - 01;02;56;27
And the only times
I've been recognized is.
01;02;56;27 - 01;02;57;20
That.
01;02;57;20 - 01;03;01;03
I'm like, oh no, you've seen those videos
and like really?
01;03;01;23 - 01;03;02;12
Oh, crazy.
01;03;02;12 - 01;03;03;04
Just creating.
01;03;03;04 - 01;03;05;10
So I didn't really care
about having followers or anything.
01;03;05;10 - 01;03;07;01
I was just on TikTok before,
01;03;07;01 - 01;03;09;19
you know, it was before all the people
from Instagram came, before the.
01;03;09;19 - 01;03;09;27
Mean.
01;03;09;27 - 01;03;10;18
People came,
01;03;10;18 - 01;03;15;03
when it was just a weird platform in 2020
with me in the bunch of 17 year olds.
01;03;15;22 - 01;03;17;13
And doing that. I enjoyed that.
01;03;17;13 - 01;03;20;04
I loved that because I could just create
whatever I wanted.
01;03;20;04 - 01;03;23;29
And no one from like my contemporaries,
none of my contemporaries were watching me
01;03;23;29 - 01;03;25;25
and I was like, I can do whatever I want.
01;03;25;25 - 01;03;27;22
Then suddenly it was more of
my friends were like,
01;03;27;22 - 01;03;30;08
oh, you have a TikTok account
that's so crazy.
01;03;30;08 - 01;03;32;03
And then though the Instagram
people came over,
01;03;32;03 - 01;03;36;02
then all the influencers came over
and I was like, oh, it lost its charm.
01;03;36;02 - 01;03;38;23
Yeah, now I can do anything weird
that things got to be curated.
01;03;38;23 - 01;03;41;09
Exactly. It's going to be curated,
will look nice.
01;03;41;09 - 01;03;44;08
You go to like have an upload schedule.
I'm like.
01;03;44;08 - 01;03;46;25
Yeah, so I just won't do my weird shit
and just do whatever.
01;03;46;25 - 01;03;49;17
Yeah,
I just have to do that for myself. Now.
01;03;49;17 - 01;03;50;06
That was a big.
01;03;50;06 - 01;03;51;06
Show it to anyone.
01;03;51;06 - 01;03;52;10
That wasn't been so crazy.
01;03;52;10 - 01;03;55;18
Be recognized more for your TikTok
than your actual work in journalism.
01;03;55;18 - 01;03;56;25
In Doja.
01;03;56;25 - 01;03;59;02
Ella. Like, you know, like, hey,
I also do other things.
01;03;59;02 - 01;04;03;09
Yeah, but the thing on TikTok,
when you talk this, an inanimate object,
01;04;03;09 - 01;04;05;02
you're like, oh, yeah, exactly.
01;04;05;02 - 01;04;09;09
I mean, actually, also at, at DW,
we have the quite famous Tik Tok account,
01;04;09;09 - 01;04;10;08
the Berlin Fresh.
01;04;10;08 - 01;04;13;03
You've probably seen some videos,
the Berlin. Fresh DW.
01;04;13;03 - 01;04;13;24
Berlin Fresh.
01;04;13;24 - 01;04;17;04
And we also have the
the DWI you remix Instagram.
01;04;17;20 - 01;04;20;29
Our short videos go on there
and you've probably seen them for sure.
01;04;20;29 - 01;04;21;23
Like probably.
01;04;21;23 - 01;04;23;28
You know,
we do stuff about Berlin lifestyle
01;04;23;28 - 01;04;27;29
and yeah, used to I've done a few videos
for that channel as well.
01;04;27;29 - 01;04;31;02
And I mean, that's where
I would get recognized from for sure.
01;04;31;02 - 01;04;33;27
Not not any of the longform journalism.
01;04;33;27 - 01;04;36;18
So interesting
because, I mean, the series is on.
01;04;36;18 - 01;04;38;10
I so like every aspect.
01;04;38;10 - 01;04;41;10
I'm like, oh, I didn't know about this,
you know, so dope to see it.
01;04;41;10 - 01;04;44;12
I would imagine you're front facing
in the camera, like, you know, you there.
01;04;44;12 - 01;04;47;00
So I would imagine.
But that's interesting.
01;04;47;00 - 01;04;48;18
So all from the top.
01;04;48;18 - 01;04;50;17
But actually when we go out together.
01;04;50;17 - 01;04;54;18
So like we have this my group of friends
from work and we all work on the the
01;04;55;05 - 01;04;58;02
like Berlin
fresh TikTok account or have worked on it
01;04;58;02 - 01;05;01;29
and that's when we go out together,
like someone will be recognized.
01;05;01;29 - 01;05;05;28
It's usually Enrique who's like,
very charming, like Spanish gay colleague.
01;05;06;13 - 01;05;08;25
And I mean, all the guys just know him.
01;05;08;25 - 01;05;12;17
He'll walk into any gay club
in, in, in Berlin,
01;05;12;17 - 01;05;15;23
like Schmidt and then the like, he's
just instantly recognized.
01;05;15;23 - 01;05;19;03
Well, then there's Hailey
with the big curly ginger hair,
01;05;19;18 - 01;05;21;24
very recognizable
when we're all together, it's like.
01;05;21;24 - 01;05;24;16
Oh my God, I mean, that's not a celebrity.
01;05;24;16 - 01;05;25;15
Yeah, that's not like,
01;05;25;15 - 01;05;29;01
that's not like a little like, you know,
group or something from a sitcom, right?
01;05;29;01 - 01;05;30;25
You know, you got blond hair, curly hair.
01;05;30;25 - 01;05;32;16
There's a gay, you know, Spanish dude.
01;05;32;16 - 01;05;32;24
Yeah, yeah.
01;05;32;24 - 01;05;35;23
I mean, like, even just that alone,
I'd be like, oh, where are you guys going?
01;05;35;23 - 01;05;38;17
Like, what's happening?
What's where the party at? Like, what?
01;05;39;16 - 01;05;40;21
What's the next season happening?
01;05;40;21 - 01;05;41;25
You know that.
01;05;41;25 - 01;05;43;18
I feel like we could make something. Yeah.
01;05;43;18 - 01;05;45;14
I mean, yeah, I'm assuming,
you know, you got.
01;05;45;14 - 01;05;47;10
You got a British accent. I'm not sure.
01;05;47;10 - 01;05;50;02
Where is your different from the.
She's American.
01;05;50;02 - 01;05;52;20
Got two Americans in there. Two American?
01;05;52;20 - 01;05;53;16
Yeah, two.
01;05;53;16 - 01;05;56;03
Both from Ohio. Both.
01;05;56;03 - 01;05;57;05
Come on. That's a series.
01;05;57;05 - 01;05;58;18
That's a series right there.
01;05;58;18 - 01;06;01;09
Oh, two Ohio people. And then, oh.
01;06;01;09 - 01;06;05;03
What happens when, two Ohio people
and a British person walks into a bar?
01;06;05;03 - 01;06;06;13
You know, I mean, they like, oh, wow.
01;06;06;13 - 01;06;08;17
Only fun
can. Happen. The Spanish guy. Yeah.
01;06;08;17 - 01;06;11;04
And this man is gay.
Only crazy shit can happen.
01;06;11;04 - 01;06;12;14
Oh, we also have David as well.
01;06;12;14 - 01;06;14;02
He's also American.
01;06;14;02 - 01;06;16;01
He's, Yeah, he's.
01;06;16;01 - 01;06;17;09
Right with. Florida.
01;06;17;09 - 01;06;19;00
Regular guy.
You got a Florida man as well.
01;06;19;00 - 01;06;21;07
Florida too.
He seemed like a regular guy, Dave.
01;06;21;07 - 01;06;22;22
You know. Right. He's not too crazy.
01;06;22;22 - 01;06;25;12
Seems like David's just regular, right.
So look at that.
01;06;25;12 - 01;06;26;19
That's a group right there.
01;06;26;19 - 01;06;28;14
That's a group for a sitcom right there.
01;06;28;14 - 01;06;30;05
Yeah,
I mean, there's even more characters.
01;06;30;05 - 01;06;33;07
And then there's Aisha from Prague,
but who was originally
01;06;33;07 - 01;06;36;07
Kazakh and lived in the US,
and then there's Scottish Hannah.
01;06;36;18 - 01;06;38;17
So that's the that's the gang, basically.
01;06;38;17 - 01;06;39;13
So it's a very.
01;06;39;13 - 01;06;42;12
Small Scottish, Scottish Kazakhstan.
01;06;42;12 - 01;06;42;28
Come on.
01;06;42;28 - 01;06;46;04
That I mean at best a college brochure,
right?
01;06;46;05 - 01;06;47;01
I mean, you guys.
01;06;47;01 - 01;06;50;12
Sure we're nailing the diversity
criteria over there.
01;06;50;19 - 01;06;52;10
You guys are making it happen.
01;06;52;10 - 01;06;54;13
Yeah. That is wow, that's so dope.
01;06;54;13 - 01;06;55;23
And that's good
that you guys are hanging out,
01;06;55;23 - 01;06;58;23
you know, to be good coworkers
hanging out and stuff like that.
01;06;58;26 - 01;07;01;04
Yeah. So do you got anything planned?
01;07;01;04 - 01;07;04;16
You know, for any other series
planned out there and aside from, like,
01;07;04;16 - 01;07;07;16
the documentary
or the, the average German.
01;07;09;03 - 01;07;11;24
Well, I've been doing some vlogging,
which I know.
01;07;11;24 - 01;07;13;04
Don't laugh too much.
01;07;13;04 - 01;07;14;05
I can check you out.
01;07;14;05 - 01;07;16;16
Okay. Day in the life of.
01;07;16;16 - 01;07;21;05
Blogging, I don't know, like when I was in
in India as well, I was vlogging.
01;07;21;05 - 01;07;24;19
I went to a Kerala,
I went to a surf town in Kerala
01;07;24;19 - 01;07;29;00
and yeah, there's not much information
about it online of the surf town.
01;07;29;01 - 01;07;32;02
And so I started to make a little
my a little vlog there.
01;07;33;03 - 01;07;34;28
Yeah, I just had the mic and my phone
01;07;34;28 - 01;07;37;28
and was just walking around
and I don't know in India it's like
01;07;38;23 - 01;07;41;19
people love
taking content for social media.
01;07;41;19 - 01;07;43;00
There is no shame.
01;07;43;00 - 01;07;46;22
Like they will have a full photoshoot
set up with like the camera on the tripod
01;07;47;00 - 01;07;48;15
there is and they will be posing.
01;07;48;15 - 01;07;49;28
They will do it for like half an hour.
01;07;49;28 - 01;07;50;12
It doesn't get,
01;07;50;12 - 01;07;50;25
they don't know,
01;07;50;25 - 01;07;51;17
they don't care
01;07;51;17 - 01;07;54;09
who is around them, really don't care
if they're taking up too much space
01;07;54;09 - 01;07;55;19
or if they're in the middle
of a restaurant.
01;07;55;19 - 01;07;56;09
Yeah, okay.
01;07;56;09 - 01;07;56;27
Oh, shit.
01;07;56;27 - 01;08;00;27
So I was like, okay, I can just also vlog
and walk around the street
01;08;00;27 - 01;08;02;10
and talk to the cameras.
01;08;02;10 - 01;08;04;00
So yeah, it was actually kind of cool.
01;08;04;00 - 01;08;09;12
So I was logging a bit there and I'll just
see how that comes out in the edit.
01;08;10;27 - 01;08;11;09
Yeah.
01;08;11;09 - 01;08;15;10
And then I think just also doing
some more work on these third spaces, I'm
01;08;15;17 - 01;08;20;00
also going to go to England
and do a little piece about, pub culture.
01;08;20;00 - 01;08;20;22
That's where I grew up.
01;08;20;22 - 01;08;23;02
Is like the some very like,
01;08;23;02 - 01;08;25;29
yeah, quintessentially British
like old man pubs.
01;08;25;29 - 01;08;28;15
British. Yeah. That pub culture is real.
01;08;28;15 - 01;08;30;11
Yeah.
They don't, don't play around with that.
01;08;30;11 - 01;08;32;08
That's a that's a sacred shrine.
01;08;32;08 - 01;08;34;24
There is I mean in my hometown.
It's crazy.
01;08;34;24 - 01;08;39;24
This is a small town,
but there are so many pubs, so many pubs
01;08;39;24 - 01;08;44;08
and there's one pub and the interior
design just makes no sense.
01;08;44;08 - 01;08;49;13
It's like deeply patriotic, patriotic,
loving of the royal family,
01;08;49;13 - 01;08;53;23
but also like rodeo themed
at the same time, like they have on the.
01;08;54;06 - 01;08;56;28
They have a kind
of shrine which has the Queen
01;08;57;29 - 01;08;58;07
with the
01;08;58;07 - 01;09;01;09
Queen, Winston Churchill and Captain Tom.
01;09;01;14 - 01;09;04;15
Captain ton
was the guy who was the 100 year old man
01;09;04;15 - 01;09;08;10
who was walking laps of his garden
to raise money for the NHS during Covid.
01;09;09;08 - 01;09;10;02
What?
01;09;10;02 - 01;09;11;23
Yeah, it was wild.
01;09;11;23 - 01;09;14;28
That is very, I mean, just as a concept.
01;09;14;28 - 01;09;16;02
It's insane. Yeah.
01;09;16;02 - 01;09;18;10
And he did. He raised
he raised a lot of money.
01;09;18;10 - 01;09;19;28
He did. He raised a lot of money.
01;09;19;28 - 01;09;21;14
Not all of it went to the NHS.
01;09;21;14 - 01;09;23;00
It turned out apparently a lot of it
01;09;23;00 - 01;09;26;18
went to his daughter,
who built a large extension on her home.
01;09;27;12 - 01;09;30;14
Well, sounds about right for Covid times
raising money.
01;09;30;24 - 01;09;33;13
Yeah. That's. Yeah. Yeah. Unfortunately.
01;09;33;13 - 01;09;37;10
Did you see yesterday the news that them
apparently the German intelligence
01;09;37;10 - 01;09;40;26
agency concluded
that Covid was released from a lab.
01;09;41;22 - 01;09;43;19
I did not see this. Whoa.
01;09;43;19 - 01;09;45;04
It was so it was confirmed.
01;09;45;04 - 01;09;47;29
From a I mean it's never going
to be confirmed because no one's.
01;09;47;29 - 01;09;49;12
Who's going to confirm that.
01;09;49;12 - 01;09;53;11
Yeah I love that Germany came
at this conclusion this late in the game.
01;09;53;11 - 01;09;53;16
Right.
01;09;53;16 - 01;09;56;17
Everyone
everyone came to everyone just cepted.
01;09;56;26 - 01;10;00;18
The assumption
that they came from a lab like year one.
01;10;00;28 - 01;10;03;08
And Germany was like,
no, we got to conduct our proper research.
01;10;03;08 - 01;10;04;22
We got to make sure everything's good.
01;10;04;22 - 01;10;07;21
And then 2025 is being concluded.
01;10;07;21 - 01;10;10;18
There's Ebola,
there's other diseases are coming now.
01;10;10;18 - 01;10;12;20
I forgot that existed. What?
01;10;12;20 - 01;10;14;13
You know. Yeah. That's crazy.
01;10;14;13 - 01;10;14;24
Yeah.
01;10;14;24 - 01;10;17;04
So they concluded, well,
good, good, good for Germany
01;10;17;04 - 01;10;20;06
for concluding that
something that we have assumed is correct.
01;10;20;19 - 01;10;22;22
Yeah. Germany is not about assumptions.
01;10;22;22 - 01;10;25;22
They're about, okay,
we gotta make sure the facts are in place.
01;10;25;27 - 01;10;28;21
Don't speak in
if but to maybe speak in absolutes.
01;10;28;21 - 01;10;30;17
Yeah. You know. That meme.
01;10;30;17 - 01;10;31;11
That were.
01;10;31;11 - 01;10;34;05
So, so famous? Meme if.
01;10;34;05 - 01;10;35;02
But maybe it's.
01;10;35;02 - 01;10;38;02
Just this guy
speaking in the Liverpool accent.
01;10;38;02 - 01;10;40;10
You know,
the one he goes, I'm being serious.
01;10;40;10 - 01;10;41;10
I'm being serious.
01;10;42;26 - 01;10;43;27
You know, my
01;10;43;27 - 01;10;47;00
TikTok
for you page is more not in Liverpool.
01;10;48;02 - 01;10;50;11
But this is famous,
okay? It's famous. Okay.
01;10;50;11 - 01;10;52;06
He's really famous
because he gets interviewed
01;10;52;06 - 01;10;56;03
and then he's all being asked
about a football player and then he's.
01;10;56;12 - 01;10;57;29
It's like a street interview
and he's like.
01;10;57;29 - 01;10;58;26
And he's like, what?
01;10;58;26 - 01;10;59;24
I'm being serious.
01;10;59;24 - 01;11;00;17
Mean, serious.
01;11;00;17 - 01;11;01;25
He's like, I don't speak.
01;11;01;25 - 01;11;04;09
And if Watson maybe I speak in absolutes.
01;11;04;09 - 01;11;07;19
Oh, that does sound familiar. Yeah.
Oh okay.
01;11;07;19 - 01;11;11;08
So that's a, that's a, that's a, a morally
look by a lot of.
01;11;11;20 - 01;11;13;25
A lot of references, a lot of pop culture.
01;11;13;25 - 01;11;14;15
Yeah. Yeah.
01;11;14;15 - 01;11;15;10
You been to TikTok.
01;11;15;10 - 01;11;17;04
You know, what's your
when you start creating for TikTok?
01;11;17;04 - 01;11;18;17
Instagram, you kind of get sucked in a bit
01;11;18;17 - 01;11;20;05
and you don't know
some of the things a bit.
01;11;20;05 - 01;11;23;05
But I actually deleted Instagram
seven months ago.
01;11;23;11 - 01;11;25;02
The first I thought, I'll do it
for three months.
01;11;25;02 - 01;11;27;24
Then it was six months
and now I'm like, I'm going to do a year.
01;11;27;24 - 01;11;29;22
A year. Yeah.
01;11;29;22 - 01;11;32;27
So because you in the world
of journalism, Deutsche
01;11;33;17 - 01;11;35;15
you know you on YouTube and stuff.
01;11;35;15 - 01;11;39;25
So it's a bit weird not having
an Instagram like hey do you see that.
01;11;41;23 - 01;11;42;09
Yeah.
01;11;42;09 - 01;11;47;09
I also don't have I need to set up
a website, at least at this point maybe.
01;11;47;11 - 01;11;49;13
I guess I need to be honest.
01;11;49;13 - 01;11;51;02
Get a Linktree.
01;11;51;02 - 01;11;51;24
Oh yeah. Linktree.
01;11;51;24 - 01;11;53;22
Linktree. You just have all your links
to where you go.
01;11;53;22 - 01;11;55;13
I mean, who's who's going on a website.
01;11;55;13 - 01;11;57;23
I put the link tree.
01;11;57;23 - 01;11;59;00
Because if I'm not using.
01;11;59;00 - 01;12;00;28
No Linktree,
you just create a Linktree account
01;12;00;28 - 01;12;02;17
and then, like, from there,
that's what I do.
01;12;02;17 - 01;12;04;25
I mean, I don't have a website,
I just have a Linktree.
01;12;04;25 - 01;12;07;01
But you have that on Instagram?
Yeah, Instagram.
01;12;07;01 - 01;12;08;21
That's where I sell tickets
and everything.
01;12;08;21 - 01;12;10;17
And that does not get in the way of that.
01;12;10;17 - 01;12;12;29
But what if I don't have any things
to put on the Linktree?
01;12;12;29 - 01;12;15;07
You have, web series?
01;12;15;07 - 01;12;17;06
That web series I don't know, there's
a channel or whatever.
01;12;17;06 - 01;12;22;27
Where do I put the link tree link
if I don't have Instagram? 000.
01;12;23;08 - 01;12;25;28
Oh, do I tattoo it on me of myself?
01;12;25;28 - 01;12;28;26
Yeah. You just put a QR code somewhere.
I don't know where.
01;12;28;26 - 01;12;30;15
You know. We'll do that.
01;12;30;15 - 01;12;32;19
A QR code. Yeah.
01;12;32;19 - 01;12;35;18
You know, because I think
you can only put one link on a QR code.
01;12;35;18 - 01;12;36;10
You can update it.
01;12;36;10 - 01;12;37;13
So, like, I know.
01;12;37;13 - 01;12;40;16
I met someone in Goa
who has a QR code tattoo.
01;12;41;00 - 01;12;44;23
He's also the same man that brings
a fully packed bag with him at all times,
01;12;44;23 - 01;12;47;14
because he says that he needs to be ready
to travel at any moment.
01;12;47;14 - 01;12;48;11
Yeah, well, he's not rich.
01;12;49;17 - 01;12;50;09
Yeah, he's not rich.
01;12;50;09 - 01;12;51;07
He's back to the theory.
01;12;51;07 - 01;12;55;08
You know, he's like, hey, look,
I need this book bag, far away from home.
01;12;55;17 - 01;12;58;11
I can't purchase anything
that is not in this bag.
01;12;58;11 - 01;12;59;23
I need it.
01;12;59;23 - 01;13;00;29
Yeah, true. Yeah.
01;13;00;29 - 01;13;04;21
He's like the very poor,
the most prepared man in the universe.
01;13;04;28 - 01;13;07;03
Probably. So. Probably the same thing.
01;13;07;03 - 01;13;09;06
Yeah, but no,
apparently he actually lives in Goa.
01;13;09;06 - 01;13;12;13
It's just that whenever he goes out,
he sees, like, a possibility
01;13;12;13 - 01;13;16;02
that he might have to,
any second travel internationally.
01;13;17;05 - 01;13;20;05
And he has a QR code tattoo. So
01;13;20;06 - 01;13;21;20
he's living life in a different dimension.
01;13;21;20 - 01;13;23;01
He is in a different world.
01;13;23;01 - 01;13;24;22
He's like, hey, well,
and just in case I pass out,
01;13;24;22 - 01;13;28;14
I'll just scan this QR code
and it has all my contact information.
01;13;28;15 - 01;13;30;06
This guy's Linktree on this. Yeah. Right.
01;13;31;05 - 01;13;31;27
Where's his wallet?
01;13;31;27 - 01;13;32;19
You just scan it.
01;13;32;19 - 01;13;35;28
You know, this identification, right?
01;13;36;08 - 01;13;38;24
You know, probably got a link to a Bitcoin
or some shit.
01;13;38;24 - 01;13;39;14
Okay, I just scan it.
01;13;39;14 - 01;13;42;27
I'll pay in Bitcoin,
you know, just, you know, keep even.
01;13;43;15 - 01;13;45;18
Oh that's true man.
01;13;45;18 - 01;13;46;24
You can never owe money, right.
01;13;46;24 - 01;13;49;01
Because if you see somebody
just scans it off like, oh come on,
01;13;49;01 - 01;13;50;25
you just pay me back or something.
01;13;50;25 - 01;13;52;09
He's living in the future.
01;13;52;09 - 01;13;54;18
Is actually with the bag and everything.
Yeah.
01;13;54;18 - 01;13;56;21
You know, he's probably
he's probably a Loki or MacGyver.
01;13;56;21 - 01;13;58;01
You know, all the things in his bag.
01;13;58;01 - 01;14;01;03
You probably find something,
you know, a t shirt, QR code.
01;14;01;06 - 01;14;03;15
You can probably save the world.
01;14;03;15 - 01;14;05;28
Yeah. You know, make that happen.
01;14;05;28 - 01;14;08;01
Yeah.
I feel like I need to watch MacGyver now.
01;14;11;14 - 01;14;12;15
Sure.
01;14;12;15 - 01;14;14;05
Yeah. I don't even know how.
01;14;14;05 - 01;14;17;09
Well, it will hold up now, because,
like, the graphics and everything, you're
01;14;17;09 - 01;14;20;12
probably just like you know, the hairstyle
he has, like a mullet.
01;14;20;12 - 01;14;21;08
So, you know, the mini.
01;14;21;08 - 01;14;23;12
See somebody with a mullet on TV,
you're like, well,
01;14;23;12 - 01;14;25;13
I think I need to spend my time
differently.
01;14;25;13 - 01;14;28;07
But what about the mullets
in the streets of Berlin?
01;14;28;07 - 01;14;29;07
They're everywhere.
01;14;29;07 - 01;14;29;23
They are.
01;14;29;23 - 01;14;32;23
But those I'm talking about,
these are like big, overflowing.
01;14;32;27 - 01;14;34;15
Oh, the big mullet. Yeah.
01;14;34;15 - 01;14;38;20
These ones are like,
you know, I don't know, like Florida.
01;14;39;00 - 01;14;40;03
Florida, man.
01;14;40;03 - 01;14;41;12
You know, it hasn't
01;14;41;12 - 01;14;45;08
the hair hasn't been nourished for a while
type thing is just like very struggling.
01;14;45;08 - 01;14;47;22
It just like just made it into a mullet.
01;14;47;22 - 01;14;48;17
It just made it.
01;14;48;17 - 01;14;50;07
It's like technically that's a mullet.
01;14;50;07 - 01;14;53;15
You know, if one was to put it,
you know, and, technical terms.
01;14;53;15 - 01;14;54;25
Yeah, that's a mullet.
01;14;54;25 - 01;14;58;19
Nothing else but a mullet can be
anything else processed by elimination.
01;14;58;19 - 01;14;58;28
Mullet.
01;15;01;14 - 01;15;02;08
Not a bowl cut.
01;15;02;08 - 01;15;05;01
Not. There's not that mullet,
but they're. Popular at the moment.
01;15;05;01 - 01;15;05;22
Mullet.
01;15;05;22 - 01;15;08;13
Yeah. The popular things out here
in Berlin are very interesting.
01;15;08;13 - 01;15;11;03
Yeah.
You know, people were old school stuff.
01;15;11;03 - 01;15;12;21
The fashion in Berlin is.
01;15;12;21 - 01;15;14;18
Yeah, yeah, I don't I don't lie. Why?
01;15;14;18 - 01;15;16;18
I came out here,
I saw some of the old fashion wear stuff.
01;15;16;18 - 01;15;20;06
I got triggered, you know, like,
I mean, I was like, oh, what's going on?
01;15;20;06 - 01;15;24;06
You know, so somebody will rocawear,
you know, I don't know, what else?
01;15;24;06 - 01;15;27;25
Another one ever, you know, some old
school things that I haven't seen ever.
01;15;28;17 - 01;15;30;06
Rex is like this, brand.
01;15;30;06 - 01;15;32;16
Usually they work, they make,
not what I say they make.
01;15;32;16 - 01;15;34;07
But you see, on, like, leather jackets
01;15;34;07 - 01;15;36;14
or you see, like, on shirts and stuff,
but it's like,
01;15;36;14 - 01;15;38;09
it's like a throwback type of thing.
01;15;38;09 - 01;15;40;00
So when I saw people wear,
I'm kind of like,
01;15;40;00 - 01;15;43;11
because maybe want to come from some,
I wear some throwback stuff.
01;15;43;29 - 01;15;47;19
They just came home from jail and
they don't have clothes of the new stuff.
01;15;47;19 - 01;15;50;09
Yeah. So they got to wear old clothes
from their family members and usually.
01;15;50;09 - 01;15;51;08
Is that. So?
01;15;51;08 - 01;15;55;12
I saw that, I saw Rocawear,
I was like, hey, what party on, man?
01;15;55;12 - 01;15;56;10
I was at a fancy party.
01;15;56;10 - 01;15;57;17
I saw Rocawear I'm like, what?
01;15;57;17 - 01;16;00;19
Who by the way? Okay.
01;16;00;28 - 01;16;02;27
And you,
the presenter of this, meeting. Okay.
01;16;04;19 - 01;16;06;04
And that would cost you €100.
01;16;06;04 - 01;16;07;20
Yeah, right. He had a mullet and shit.
01;16;07;20 - 01;16;09;20
I was like,
all right, Berlin is different.
01;16;09;20 - 01;16;12;01
Berlin is different.
And that was also might have had a mullet.
01;16;12;01 - 01;16;13;20
And we're in war. Rocawear.
01;16;13;20 - 01;16;14;28
Yeah. Or Avery's.
01;16;14;28 - 01;16;16;11
Berlin is. Yeah, for sure.
01;16;16;11 - 01;16;18;10
The fashion here is
01;16;18;10 - 01;16;20;07
is is something.
01;16;20;07 - 01;16;21;17
There's something, you know, something.
01;16;21;17 - 01;16;25;20
I mean, I must say that I have got quite
into this, like Y2K throwback era.
01;16;25;23 - 01;16;26;03
Yeah.
01;16;26;03 - 01;16;27;28
You got pants with designs on it.
01;16;27;28 - 01;16;30;11
Yeah, I've got pants with the diamante.
01;16;30;11 - 01;16;33;04
I've got this zipped jacket.
01;16;33;04 - 01;16;34;28
Yeah, I've been fully absorbed.
01;16;34;28 - 01;16;36;22
I know, but I haven't gone that.
01;16;36;22 - 01;16;38;11
I haven't gone as extreme as some people.
01;16;38;11 - 01;16;42;07
Some people have fully embraced
the kind of trash side of the 2000.
01;16;43;08 - 01;16;45;09
She's well I can't quite get to.
01;16;45;09 - 01;16;45;18
Yeah.
01;16;45;18 - 01;16;48;17
And I mean you know once you kind of like
01;16;48;17 - 01;16;51;09
seen it, you kind of like
I mean we lived it.
01;16;51;09 - 01;16;52;24
Yeah. We lived it. Right.
01;16;52;24 - 01;16;54;19
Yeah. We know how it was back then.
01;16;54;19 - 01;16;56;27
So yeah, once you live it, it's like,
all right,
01;16;56;27 - 01;17;00;08
I know what components was good
and was not, you know, where's people now?
01;17;00;08 - 01;17;01;04
They're kind of like,
01;17;01;04 - 01;17;04;23
oh, I just remember a time where no cell
phones and this and that and it's like,
01;17;05;03 - 01;17;06;10
yeah, those are good times.
01;17;06;10 - 01;17;08;03
But not not all of it, right?
01;17;08;03 - 01;17;09;19
Not all of it for sure.
01;17;09;19 - 01;17;10;25
I mean, I was trying to think,
01;17;10;25 - 01;17;13;25
how did we get to our friends houses
without Google Maps?
01;17;14;15 - 01;17;16;22
Do you know, like,
can you actually remember.
01;17;16;22 - 01;17;17;26
I used to get lost.
01;17;17;26 - 01;17;20;10
If someone gave you an address,
what would you do?
01;17;20;10 - 01;17;22;10
I got lost,
I got lost in bad neighborhoods.
01;17;22;10 - 01;17;23;05
That's what happened.
01;17;23;05 - 01;17;26;02
Yeah, but, you know, if I didn't like
the times, I didn't have a phone.
01;17;26;02 - 01;17;28;02
And I was trying to find, like,
a friend's place.
01;17;28;02 - 01;17;30;27
I want to have them, I got lost,
I got lost into a bad neighborhood.
01;17;30;27 - 01;17;32;02
And how to escape.
01;17;32;02 - 01;17;33;21
The people were following me.
I was on my bike.
01;17;33;21 - 01;17;36;06
I like, you know, ride my bike and like,
I was on a corner.
01;17;36;06 - 01;17;38;10
I'm like, what's it? This address,
I don't know.
01;17;38;10 - 01;17;40;07
And if I'm looking too long,
people are like, oh, you're lost.
01;17;40;07 - 01;17;41;24
So I got to, I got a fight. You.
01;17;41;24 - 01;17;43;12
I'm like,
oh shit, I got to like keep on going.
01;17;43;12 - 01;17;46;26
A different corner is like trying
to figure out where I'm at while not,
01;17;46;26 - 01;17;50;15
you know, getting and asking random
people like, am I here?
01;17;50;15 - 01;17;52;14
The bike?
No, you're all the way on the west side.
01;17;52;14 - 01;17;53;12
That's on the east side.
01;17;53;12 - 01;17;56;11
And then get lost for hours
and then like, do it.
01;17;56;13 - 01;17;58;29
I don't even
I don't even know how even. Yeah.
01;17;58;29 - 01;17;59;13
Yeah.
01;17;59;13 - 01;18;01;08
I think about it and I'm like,
01;18;01;08 - 01;18;04;05
we would just have an address
and we would have to
01;18;04;05 - 01;18;05;27
I remember people would be like,
oh yeah, then
01;18;05;27 - 01;18;08;05
you leave the station,
then you turn left, you make a right,
01;18;08;05 - 01;18;11;05
and then you see this big building
and you, you have to keep a memory of it.
01;18;11;07 - 01;18;11;18
Yeah.
01;18;11;18 - 01;18;15;13
Well, my parents would actually have
a, have a physical map in the car.
01;18;15;27 - 01;18;17;15
Yeah. Right. Yeah.
01;18;17;15 - 01;18;19;09
You had to really figure it out. Yeah.
01;18;19;09 - 01;18;21;15
Or also another secret part
that people don't talk about
01;18;21;15 - 01;18;22;26
is that you just
get lost. You don't make it,
01;18;23;26 - 01;18;25;09
you don't you.
01;18;25;09 - 01;18;27;06
That's what usually happy like, hey,
what happened to Paul?
01;18;27;06 - 01;18;29;23
Paul just then just got fucking lost.
01;18;29;23 - 01;18;32;29
He just got lost and ran out of money
and just had to find his way back.
01;18;32;29 - 01;18;35;04
Yeah.
Do you also run out of money? So, yeah.
01;18;35;04 - 01;18;36;02
No credit cards.
01;18;36;02 - 01;18;38;28
You just know I don't. Pay back
then. Yeah.
01;18;38;28 - 01;18;40;16
If you didn't have money
for the phone box.
01;18;40;16 - 01;18;42;03
See you later. Right.
01;18;42;03 - 01;18;44;13
There was times where I had no money.
I had to go back to where I.
01;18;44;13 - 01;18;46;06
I had to haggle with the taxi driver
01;18;46;06 - 01;18;50;01
or find a way, be like, hey, can you drop
me, like, a little bit, you know, charm
01;18;50;01 - 01;18;54;07
on being like, hey, I only got 20 can,
you know, hey, I'm down on my luck.
01;18;54;07 - 01;18;56;04
You know how I was, right? You know? Yeah.
01;18;56;04 - 01;18;57;01
It's crazy.
01;18;57;01 - 01;19;00;11
I mean, that all changed
just within, like, ten, 15 years, right?
01;19;00;21 - 01;19;03;06
Yeah. Like the concept. Like a
you taking a bus?
01;19;03;06 - 01;19;05;12
You need to exact cash. Like,
if you don't have it.
01;19;05;12 - 01;19;07;02
I said I don't want to.
01;19;07;02 - 01;19;10;19
I mean, it was points where I had,
I owed the bus driver money.
01;19;10;19 - 01;19;13;21
Like I was like, hey, look,
you know, I ain't got Apple Pay.
01;19;14;00 - 01;19;16;12
That's, that's that's in the future.
01;19;16;12 - 01;19;20;17
Now can you just living on the bus, I'll
pay you back in these quarters, you know.
01;19;20;22 - 01;19;22;07
And did they, they let you do it. Yeah.
01;19;22;07 - 01;19;24;26
They let me because they knew I took the
you know, once I know you have the job.
01;19;24;26 - 01;19;26;06
So you know community there. Right.
01;19;26;06 - 01;19;28;02
So there's like,
oh, this kid I know he has a job.
01;19;28;02 - 01;19;29;01
He always had to takes this.
01;19;29;01 - 01;19;32;27
So I will see him I see him all the time
and he will have to pay me back
01;19;33;06 - 01;19;34;18
something to do, remind me about it.
01;19;34;18 - 01;19;37;09
But, hey, you know,
put the extra quarters in it, you know?
01;19;37;09 - 01;19;38;02
What are you doing?
01;19;38;02 - 01;19;39;02
Oh, shit. I'm sorry.
01;19;39;02 - 01;19;40;23
You know, I forgot.
01;19;40;23 - 01;19;42;23
Yeah. I was like, yeah, yeah,
you forgot. Right?
01;19;42;23 - 01;19;45;08
The cash economy. Yeah.
We forget that sometimes.
01;19;45;08 - 01;19;46;11
Well we don't, we don't.
01;19;46;11 - 01;19;49;03
100 things we do live in Berlin
with. Yeah.
01;19;49;03 - 01;19;51;06
It's a big cash based economy over here.
01;19;51;06 - 01;19;53;07
It's it's it's crazy.
01;19;53;07 - 01;19;54;04
It's like the ATM.
01;19;54;04 - 01;19;56;27
I now know where all the ATMs are
in Berlin.
01;19;56;27 - 01;20;00;11
That was the first thing
I had to learn ATM and printers. Oh.
01;20;00;11 - 01;20;02;04
The printer? Yeah.
01;20;02;04 - 01;20;03;09
The the printer. Who?
01;20;03;09 - 01;20;06;06
They thought that that was the biggest,
hurdle in the city.
01;20;06;06 - 01;20;09;03
It's like finding an ATM
and finding a good print shop.
01;20;09;03 - 01;20;10;26
Yeah, they print out everything.
01;20;10;26 - 01;20;12;25
Yeah, the printer is mad.
01;20;12;25 - 01;20;17;09
I actually cycle past
two shops today called toner dumping.
01;20;18;22 - 01;20;20;08
And. Toner dumping.
01;20;20;08 - 01;20;22;14
And it's all dedicated to toner dumping.
01;20;22;14 - 01;20;23;12
Yeah,
01;20;23;12 - 01;20;26;16
I don't know what the dumping part is,
but it's all with printer toner and ink.
01;20;26;25 - 01;20;28;20
Look at that. Dumping in. Berlin.
01;20;28;20 - 01;20;30;13
Such a great place where,
01;20;30;13 - 01;20;33;21
a company like that can still exist
and just, like, still sell.
01;20;33;23 - 01;20;36;03
Two locations
within ten minutes of each other.
01;20;36;03 - 01;20;38;19
To look at that,
it's about to turn into a franchise.
01;20;38;19 - 01;20;40;05
Only in Berlin
01;20;40;05 - 01;20;44;22
that would have been defunct, never
existing again in any part of the world.
01;20;44;26 - 01;20;46;12
But here they got two locations.
01;20;46;12 - 01;20;48;20
There's still DVD rental shops over here.
01;20;48;20 - 01;20;49;08
You serious?
01;20;49;08 - 01;20;49;17
Yeah.
01;20;49;17 - 01;20;52;13
In Prenzlauer Berg
there's a DVD rental shop.
01;20;52;13 - 01;20;53;27
And it just opened.
01;20;53;27 - 01;20;55;27
Yeah. Probably got an impressive album.
01;20;55;27 - 01;20;57;06
Yeah, I'll play rent on.
01;20;57;06 - 01;20;59;06
That place is insane.
01;20;59;06 - 01;20;59;20
There you go.
01;20;59;20 - 01;21;02;22
Just, just just economically intact. Yeah.
01;21;02;27 - 01;21;05;27
While there's actual businesses
that need, like, the sound products
01;21;05;27 - 01;21;08;00
we need now,
they're going out of business immediately.
01;21;08;00 - 01;21;08;12
Yeah.
01;21;08;12 - 01;21;11;12
And there's people a Blu ray machine
01;21;11;12 - 01;21;14;06
or a DVD machine, just like putting it in
and watching a movie.
01;21;14;06 - 01;21;15;00
Yeah.
01;21;15;00 - 01;21;16;00
Castagna and Ali,
01;21;16;00 - 01;21;19;14
you know that there's a nice
the nice street in, Prince Albert region.
01;21;20;00 - 01;21;24;22
There's this vinyl shop where,
I mean, the rent on it must be insane.
01;21;24;22 - 01;21;27;22
It's like sandwiched between all these
expensive coffee shops and stuff.
01;21;27;23 - 01;21;29;02
Yeah. And the.
01;21;29;02 - 01;21;30;22
But the owner has a reputation
01;21;30;22 - 01;21;34;02
for just being the rudest man ever
who doesn't want anyone in the shop.
01;21;34;02 - 01;21;34;18
Look.
01;21;34;18 - 01;21;35;23
I'm like, it's just.
01;21;35;23 - 01;21;38;02
It's very Berlin, isn't it? So. Berlin.
01;21;38;02 - 01;21;38;20
Customer. Yeah.
01;21;38;20 - 01;21;40;12
Customer service here is like,
01;21;40;12 - 01;21;44;22
you kind of wonder, what is the
how they're keeping things going, right?
01;21;44;23 - 01;21;45;04
Yeah.
01;21;45;04 - 01;21;46;26
Because they're like,
oh, I don't want nobody here.
01;21;46;26 - 01;21;48;03
I'm like, well, this is a business.
01;21;48;03 - 01;21;49;29
I don't know how you're making money
here, but.
01;21;49;29 - 01;21;53;24
Or how things work, but people
need to be here and want to buy something.
01;21;53;25 - 01;21;55;09
Yeah, apparently he just shouts at you.
01;21;55;09 - 01;21;57;16
If you go inside, you touch a vinyl.
01;21;57;16 - 01;21;59;10
He's like, oh. You're like.
01;21;59;10 - 01;22;00;20
It's like, is this a business?
01;22;00;20 - 01;22;02;28
Or is this just like,
extension of your home?
01;22;02;28 - 01;22;04;14
Like, what is am I in your living room?
01;22;04;14 - 01;22;05;25
Well, I. Would like to know.
01;22;05;25 - 01;22;08;06
I would actually maybe like an interview.
01;22;08;06 - 01;22;09;11
Like, get him on the podcast.
01;22;09;11 - 01;22;10;27
Yeah. Can I interview you now?
01;22;10;27 - 01;22;12;09
Okay. Well, there know I should.
01;22;12;09 - 01;22;13;13
I expected that, right?
01;22;13;13 - 01;22;16;00
You know, you do say no a lot. Yeah.
01;22;16;00 - 01;22;17;17
So the respect for that was the no.
01;22;17;17 - 01;22;20;04
Get him on the
get him on. You get him on request.
01;22;20;04 - 01;22;21;03
Media request.
01;22;21;03 - 01;22;23;10
But okay, so one last question
I would like to ask you,
01;22;24;09 - 01;22;27;23
so I usually ask this, at the end
with anyone on the podcast.
01;22;27;23 - 01;22;30;01
So you've been to a lot of different
experiences, right?
01;22;30;01 - 01;22;31;26
You've been to,
you know, you've been to India.
01;22;31;26 - 01;22;37;00
You'll you surf now you've, you know, your
creator, your director, your producer.
01;22;37;00 - 01;22;39;12
You work with Dutch Valley,
you got a popular series
01;22;39;12 - 01;22;42;18
that's out there on YouTube, the average
German, you know, you got a lot of things
01;22;42;18 - 01;22;45;20
going on, a lot of different cultural
things you've been through so far.
01;22;45;20 - 01;22;47;28
And, you know, from the UK, right.
01;22;47;28 - 01;22;50;03
From a small town to out here.
01;22;50;03 - 01;22;53;20
So if you go back in time,
to your younger self,
01;22;53;20 - 01;22;56;20
what would be the number one advice
you give to the younger self.
01;23;02;16 - 01;23;03;18
I think it's that
01;23;03;18 - 01;23;07;03
everything takes a bit longer
than you'd expect to happen.
01;23;07;10 - 01;23;09;06
And that's okay
01;23;09;06 - 01;23;13;13
I think because we finish university
when we're 21 in England most of the time.
01;23;13;21 - 01;23;16;15
You know over here
like I meet people who are 27
01;23;16;15 - 01;23;18;15
who is still studying
and that's just normal.
01;23;18;15 - 01;23;19;18
That's not even in a weird way.
01;23;19;18 - 01;23;22;10
That's like, yeah, I'm 27.
I'm just finishing my masters.
01;23;22;10 - 01;23;26;05
I'm like, okay, but I finished university,
you know, I was 21.
01;23;26;14 - 01;23;29;23
And then, you know, then we move you,
then you move from university
01;23;29;23 - 01;23;33;05
to go to the city,
usually to get a job. And
01;23;34;03 - 01;23;34;18
this isn't it.
01;23;34;18 - 01;23;38;18
From and at that time I was like,
oh God, I'm 22, I'm 23.
01;23;38;18 - 01;23;41;17
I'm so old now
and I haven't achieved anything.
01;23;41;22 - 01;23;42;17
And it's ridiculous.
01;23;42;17 - 01;23;45;08
And now I realize how insane
that is, right?
01;23;45;08 - 01;23;49;21
Would like to be like, I'm already 22
and I don't have a Wikipedia page.
01;23;50;23 - 01;23;55;17
And now I realize anyone who's 22
with a Wikipedia page is a nepo baby.
01;23;55;24 - 01;23;58;08
Yeah, there is no other way
around. An apple baby.
01;23;58;08 - 01;24;01;16
Or you got some problems
that are stacking up that are very public.
01;24;01;16 - 01;24;01;23
Yeah.
01;24;01;23 - 01;24;02;24
If you got a Wikipedia page
01;24;02;24 - 01;24;04;23
that early life is like, well,
we need to clear some records.
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You need a. Baby or criminal.
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Yeah.
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And so I, I don't know, I just had
all these very high expectations.
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And I was very disappointed to just feel
like I was living in quite normal. Or.
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Average or even or even not average.
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But I was I think I was unsatisfied with
the progress I made for so many years,
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and I was thinking all I could do
so many more things,
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but I'm not doing them
like I'm must be something wrong.
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But now I have a bit more perspective
and I realized,
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you know, coming here and seeing that yes,
people finish uni at 2728 and then life
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and life just takes so much longer
for things to actually start happening.
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And it's okay. It's okay.
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Like you don't need to have
this Wikipedia page at 25.
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Yeah.
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And good thing you do.
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And the good. Thing
I didn't write I'm doing much at 25.
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I was just things were just
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developing.
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Developing and going.
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So that's what I would say to myself.
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Yeah.
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Nice.
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That's some very, very good advice
right there.
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Anyone who's 21 without a Wikipedia page,
you're going to be fine.
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Yeah, you're going to be fine.
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You know,
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I'm pretty sure TikTok and Instagram
covers that, in terms of documenting
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all the things you've gone through.
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Yeah.
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But thank you very much
for being on this podcast.
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Thank you for having me.
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Thank you. It was very dope.
This is very dope.
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Thank you very much.
01;25;21;27 - 01;25;24;26
And guys, thank you for listening
and are watching through the third
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talk podcast on you.
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Boy, if this is Claire Trillo Nicola.
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There you go.
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I had to make you. Yeah. You had to say
if I said it, I would have messed it up.
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The algorithm
would have been like, cut it.
01;25;35;08 - 01;25;37;05
And thank you for listening to
and or watching.
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I'll see you guys in the next one. Peace.
