Fighting The Good Fight, Comedy in Europe, and Politics w/ Sid Singh | Ep 92

Today I'm back with Sid Singh and we talk about politics, comedy, and doing comedy in Europe. He shares his experience with politics and the current state of the world and the challenges that comes with it. We talk also talk about performing comedy in Europe. 

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Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;20;09
Unknown
What's going on, y'all? Today I speak with Sid Singh. He's a full time comedian, volunteer, human rights lawyer, and we talk about things comedy, about the state of the world and dealing with that stand up comedians. Also, we talk about just the living experiences living in different parts of Europe versus the United States of America. So hopefully you guys enjoy this and let's get into the episode.

00;00;20;12 - 00;00;39;27
Unknown
Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host Nya Yeanafehn. In this podcast, we talk of people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day. So let's begin today's episode.

00;00;40;00 - 00;00;58;02
Unknown
Mr. Sid Singh was born on high. I know, I don't know what made me laugh so much. We've been talking for an hour off of off par. And I'll tell you what. We said a bunch of shit that you would never hear. Oh, yeah. Not none. And not even a Patreon episode or anything. Like a dumb as could have monetized that.

00;00;58;02 - 00;01;16;28
Unknown
But, you know, I was like, you, my friend, let's talk. Let's go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the, the talking shit episode that we'll never air. Yeah, right. Yeah. We're talking a lot of shit. You know, to nobody. Of course. Just only between us, whether or not. Just make sure is easy up top.

00;01;17;00 - 00;01;31;02
Unknown
You just have ensure there's no, backlash. Yeah. Like, man. Come on, man, I just moved here, man. I'm not trying to keep that right. Yeah. You. You're leaving tomorrow. I mean, I what do I care? Yeah, yeah. Like fuck everything. I'm old. Yeah, yeah. You're like lighting a match and just doing it on, you know, bag full leaves.

00;01;31;02 - 00;01;53;29
Unknown
Which means, as always, if you got five bucks lit into my DMs. Hahahahaha! Hahahahaha. You got a OnlyFans? You don't know. Oh, yeah. Man, were you part of that? They were trying, was the last year. They were trying really hard, to get comics to join only fan. They still doing it now right. But I think they had like a contest and like a whole competition and stuff.

00;01;54;18 - 00;02;14;11
Unknown
And, and they were like really trying to get comedians. Yeah. To to sign up for that and like make it a thing. And man that did not work hard. Not really because I had a, I knew they had like the, the the LM off. That's the thing. Was that what it was called. Okay. Yeah. So like this people now release new content on like OnlyFans.

00;02;14;13 - 00;02;43;07
Unknown
I'm sure they're releasing it, but it's it didn't really lead to the numbers. I think they expected it to. I mean, I guess you guys don't tell comedy, right? And all that stuff. So they already have those things. But I mean, it was like a way for comedians to monetize like so yeah, I, I don't know, but from, from what I understand, it was and regardless of the gender of the comedian, it was them posting clips and just getting a bunch of, gross dudes commenting, like, yeah, like, you know.

00;02;43;10 - 00;03;01;03
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. It's like, yeah, you know that joke? Funny. Show me your feet. Like, okay. Yeah, right. Isn't that funny that you try to cater to the audience that are into, like, fitness, like that, like you're not going to change because the good jokes, they're going to be like, hey, I still like feet and the good, good punchline, but then those feet on that stage, no, we can fluctuate that punchline on your foot.

00;03;01;08 - 00;03;18;26
Unknown
Yeah. Great delivery, but, those feet are still in clothes and shoes, so let them out next time. For what I understand, it's like a legal thing where only fans is trying to basically protect themselves. Should they should they have to take down a bunch of videos for whatever. Oh, that's a good. And so they're hoping to be like, well, we're not just that.

00;03;18;26 - 00;03;42;21
Unknown
We also got comedians to look at the state of comedy. We're just a backup plan for our end. Well, we financing everything, man. I mean, you if you look at like things like Netflix and Hulu and so on, so forth, there was no better investment than comedy because, the the rate of retention of people who sign up just to watch a bunch of comedy special based versus like how much it cost to make them is supposed to be not all the cost to make it relative to.

00;03;42;23 - 00;04;00;13
Unknown
Yeah, it is like what I mean, but some people spend like over 100,000 on it, right? Like, I mean maybe like 100,000 like a couple tens of thousands. Yeah. No, I mean, they do, but like, you have to you have to compare that to what Netflix would, would pay to produce a show. Right. Different seasons just like that.

00;04;00;13 - 00;04;16;22
Unknown
It's like, if you like that. There was that Ray Romano show with Lisa Kudrow. And it's like you got to pay both of them a lot of money. Right, right, right, right. You got to pay. You know that designers, directors, writers like that, all that stuff adds up. Comics that you got to pay a comic.

00;04;16;25 - 00;04;34;04
Unknown
Yeah. And then a lot of times with the new deals, I heard the giving out the comics to got to pay the comic and then the comic got to figure it out. Really. So pay the comic, you need to figure out the budget and everything to pay. Yeah, but it's stuff I heard. What happens is, like, a lot of comics bring the product to Netflix.

00;04;34;04 - 00;04;52;02
Unknown
The final product. Oh, right. Right, right. And then Netflix is like, all right, well, how much did it cost you to make it? All right, here's a check for that amount. And we're going to put you on Netflix for two years. And if it does well enough in views we'll put you on for another two years. And if it still does well enough viewers then it's on for a lifetime.

00;04;52;02 - 00;05;09;04
Unknown
That's when you make a ton of money. So yeah. So it's like you're really banking on I put it on Netflix for two years. And then I can tour. Came to say that I was on Netflix. Oh, so you making money on the back end of it being on Netflix? Yeah. You just getting paid for the amount to you.

00;05;09;04 - 00;05;28;11
Unknown
Because that flix knows now they're such a big deal that, you know, it's one of the few credits that still matters. True. Because HBO doesn't really anymore. I mean, no one in Europe knows about it. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, in America, HBO, I think still kind of holds some weight. But like you saw the last comic on Hulu that people don't really say that.

00;05;28;16 - 00;05;51;06
Unknown
Yeah. That's true. Hulu is not. Oh, it feels like only if you're an established comedian getting a better deal. It seems like. Yeah. Yeah like bird or something like that. Right. Because I think they're trying to break into the competition. But yeah, it's a, it's a tricky thing. It's like, it's weird because so much comedy is offered on YouTube, but audiences still aren't impressed by YouTube either.

00;05;51;09 - 00;06;05;19
Unknown
Like, if you was like, this next person got 100 million views on YouTube. They'd be like, I don't know what that means. Which is is like YouTube 100 million. Yeah. Better. Like, that's why I made it up as a number. But, it's like no one should ever achieve this. I've seen, I'm sure a wife has or something like that.

00;06;05;19 - 00;06;24;07
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, eventually, you know, some I do that in a mr. beast thing, like, you know, we're going to fill a two full, 1000 jokes just like that. And and I don't know, you know, I if I was filming this TV thing and one of the people I was in scenes with, she was, someone who did a mr. beast challenge and everything, she said, I was like,

00;06;24;18 - 00;06;44;21
Unknown
Yeah, that sounds terrible. What would you say? She. She was like. Like it was like the the beast games or whatever. Oh, yeah. This thing is beast games. Yeah. And like, I'm not sure what I'm allowed to spoil or whatever for it, but, like, I don't know. I don't know anything. I don't know anything about Mr. Beast until, like, you don't until he got in trouble with that.

00;06;44;21 - 00;07;02;16
Unknown
Like, Lunchables thing that he did. The Feast of Bowls. Yeah, yeah. The chocolate. Yeah. That wasn't chocolate or what was it? I don't even know what happened. I know he I know you really invest heavily into it, but I don't know what really happened. I don't fundamentally understand him. It's just Hunger game shit. Is that all he does?

00;07;02;16 - 00;07;22;07
Unknown
No, he does like, a lot of insane stuff. He's like, I'm. I'm gonna solve blindness for 1 million people. And he will. I do it, like on film or something. So you had like a film crew. You do like outreach. So, like, I'm gonna, you know, I'm going to solve blindness. Yeah, not solve it. But he, like, he basically a cured blindness or something, but, like, it was like people had glaucoma.

00;07;22;12 - 00;07;44;01
Unknown
Yeah, whatever. And he'll like, pay or like pay for the procedures and recorded and like have that. So you have like these crazy videos where it'd be like, I'm gonna break two, 1 million pencils in and over some many days, like these insane different challenges that he will film and do. And he knows YouTube so well. They have like the flashes that make it like very in capturing you kind of like, damn.

00;07;44;01 - 00;08;02;29
Unknown
Yeah. Okay. So yeah, he's a, he's he's like the most famous dude on YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. It's to the point where they people consult like him because. Yeah, yeah yeah yeah. You're like he, he translates it now like he has like Mr. B's in India, Mr. B's in Spanish, Mr. B's in Portuguese. He hires like people who voiced like Mulan or some shit like people of the Disney Channel.

00;08;02;29 - 00;08;23;07
Unknown
Like Disney characters to do the voiceovers. Oh yeah. He. Yeah. He's like a different. Yeah. Because it's tricky too, because he's a probably then there's a couple guys like this where they're at a level where they're like, Netflix probably is like, hey man, we'll throw a boatload of money. Yeah. And they're like, no, because you're not going to pay us more and we're making ourselves right.

00;08;23;12 - 00;08;44;08
Unknown
But the thing that's even weirder than anything, man, YouTube must be making a fucking killing. Oh, they make em like like forget us. They pay us, right? And you know who? Rich. Not the guy getting the check. The guy writing the check is always the richest guy. They make him money. And so, I mean, YouTube and these different countries and stuff that a lot of people like.

00;08;44;10 - 00;09;01;16
Unknown
Anyway, it was funny, is that YouTube is the only social media platform that when people say they don't do social media, that's like the last one or it's not factor in. Yeah, like Instagram and TikTok slash if you go to all you mess with, you know, whatever. But when it comes to showing you a video, YouTube is a place YouTube.

00;09;01;17 - 00;09;19;18
Unknown
I think Reddit has that already. Yeah. Ready to say. But don't count Reddit as social media or like as like the internet in that same destructive way. I'm like, it's by a secret though. A lot of people are not are not confident in saying they got something from Reddit or by the show some Reddit still like that. Username 2543.

00;09;19;26 - 00;09;38;27
Unknown
You know I'm not supposed to be here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How did you get this answer? No, I heard it from somewhere. But what's from Reddit, right? Yeah. Reddit. Those places that it's like. It's like it's like popular forums that you would never want to be caught in. Interesting. Yeah, I, I read it was one I never got into.

00;09;39;01 - 00;09;54;13
Unknown
Really. Yeah. Like I, I'm now I'm starting to get like people sending me Reddit links and stuff like that. Oh but I was never a big, I was, I was that if it wasn't for comedy, I would not be on social media. I just don't think. Really? Yeah. Jeez. I don't think it would be a thing that appeals to me at all.

00;09;54;13 - 00;10;14;25
Unknown
At all. Yeah. It's just one of those where you're like, yeah, but for work you gotta, you gotta, you gotta get gigs on this. You gotta showcase your thing. But I'm like, I think if we was back in like, you know, today, I would just be like a Luddite, you know? I mean, I'll have, like, like, I, I'm very comfortable, like, just being, like, having a flip phone or something.

00;10;14;27 - 00;10;39;07
Unknown
Really? Yeah. So you never get caught, like. Like you never get call in on some by doomscrolling. I'm sure I do. No, no, I definitely do. I'm just saying I like, but I'm only looking at the thing that starts me doomscrolling, because I'm supposed to be doing some comedy work, right? And then I get distracted. But, like, anytime I've ever been in a situation where I'm like, oh, you don't gotta look at this at all.

00;10;39;07 - 00;10;54;04
Unknown
Like, it's just, I don't even weirder. It's just sports for me. Like, it's just, I mean, no, that's great. That's what oh my God, man, if it was for comedy, I'd be in shape. Damn it. Okay, maybe too far, but, hey, I mean, you know, this, blaming all social media, right? You know, Facebook baby fat, I know.

00;10;54;04 - 00;11;16;10
Unknown
What are you doing with the for fat? You know? That. Wow. Okay, so you would not be addicted. I don't know if I can even say that, unfortunately. Well, I mean, I think that's more common. Like, how do I make sense? My, my thing is just that like, I probably would just be addicted to the other dumb, like, you know, I mean, like, I wouldn't it's like, cause I'm like a healthy, like, you know, I just be, like, listening to sports podcasts all day.

00;11;16;11 - 00;11;31;28
Unknown
Like how? Like, if they got the NBA. NFL stuff. Yeah. So it's not like I'd be doing better stuff. I just be doing other nerd shit, right? I mean, like, damn. But yeah, I feel like even now, even with like every, everything is trying to lead you back to social media, you know, it's like, oh, hard. It's like you got to fight like for an audio only podcast.

00;11;31;28 - 00;11;56;27
Unknown
That's like that's that's. Yeah, I mean, I don't even exist anymore, but see, that's where sports has the advantage, right? In terms of, being anti-social media, because no one is more fake on social media than an athlete. True athletes active at least they they. Yes. Active. Yeah. They they're PR training cannot go against like the rampant like TikTok.

00;11;56;27 - 00;12;15;15
Unknown
Like quickness or Instagram quickness. They people in PR probably got their brains fried from that shit. There's, there are people whose entire job is to make sure an athlete ain't posting anything too crazy. Yeah. But I mean, you know, you athletes, man, it's shit. If anything, the people they fuck with, they post some shit crazy and then the PR team.

00;12;15;16 - 00;12;33;09
Unknown
Yeah. And then they got comments on top of comments and then, you know, bugging all this stuff. But I'll say the analysts though, the analysts are the ones now like with the social media to the audio stuff like like for example, man, you got analyst now that even post a beat it like they're funny, like look at Gilbert Arenas and like those people.

00;12;33;09 - 00;12;51;17
Unknown
Right. You have cam and Mase. It is what it is like their, their rappers and it became like for not just a sports analyst, but they talk about sports and they way they do it, you know, they literally be like, yeah, man, so-and-so lost a game, man. That's why. Could you be fucking your baby Madden you buy yo.

00;12;51;17 - 00;13;16;14
Unknown
So that's not I don't think that's why they make you remember this. Yeah yeah yeah I yeah. And you did like that's the. Okay. Interesting. But because you know for similar ages like there is a mode where you're like 22 year olds be do be like that though. And imagine if you had that money and then social media bro.

00;13;16;15 - 00;13;42;00
Unknown
Yeah yeah yeah. Imagine you have not been given the time to become an adult, but you're getting paid like a 50 year old man. I know what I would have done, and fucking TikTok wasn't out then. Yeah. You know, so imagine you've done. Oh, bro. Well, first of all is what would have happened to me, the DM say if I was famous and people know the amount of money I made.

00;13;42;02 - 00;13;56;29
Unknown
Yeah, just just the amount of inbox the in the inbound DMs I would get from women and then how would you mentally like you guys? How long you been in Berlin now? Been in Berlin for a year and a half now. You better not. You wrote a nice I did. Your show on Saturday was a very nice show.

00;13;57;00 - 00;14;18;29
Unknown
Thank you very much. Should go hang out. Thank you. How many DM slides you got from that? I mean, I get, you know, get decent amount and even then. But, you know, I'm now are at an age where I'm mentally can like. Yeah. So but even now, like even even now with those DMs I'm still like mentally have to deal with like okay, like wait, wait a minute.

00;14;18;29 - 00;14;38;09
Unknown
Okay, cool. So at least I have that limiter in my brain. Whereas in the 20s, like, you know, we 22 football man you might even you, you think you got that thought after you done all the wrong shit. Yeah. You're like, damn you, I should have that. Damn. Yo. What the why would I oh my God, I should have known though.

00;14;38;09 - 00;14;48;00
Unknown
That tattoo over there. Fuck. Tattoo? What the heck? Damn, I knew that, you know that had a meaning. You know.

00;14;48;02 - 00;15;15;09
Unknown
She had a tattoo of an eagle. Yeah, I should have known better. Okay, so now what is, What is the one that you are the most addicted to? That's a good question bro. Oh my God I'm, I'm almost equally addicted which is even worse. But I'd say tick tock is the one that can get you because the algorithm is so good that it can get you not only into videos that really tap into like deep stuff, but then also to comments that are commenting another video.

00;15;15;09 - 00;15;32;24
Unknown
So even those comments, comment, commented videos or video comments, yeah, can in itself be its own content. So like you be watching somebody having a take on something that maybe someone responded to the original video and then you're like, damn is a good ass, okay, this nuance. And then you go back to other video, then it has this and other people are different content.

00;15;32;25 - 00;15;50;11
Unknown
So you go into like a rabbit hole of people. Comments. This isn't because I think you're much more forward thinking about this stuff than I am when you're watching these videos. Is there any part of you that wants to start making them yourself? Yes. Is that what this is? Yeah, I know right. Let's start making TikTok different. Yeah, this definitely will be on on that.

00;15;51;00 - 00;16;11;08
Unknown
On a, on a platform. I don't wanna get the montages, but, mean but I'd say that now me making a lot of content it I'm watching it for different things. Whereas before. So that's actually a good point you brought up before that, before it was just like, I'm just watching a but bro TikTok. You can like literally speak your mind.

00;16;11;11 - 00;16;40;17
Unknown
And it's like that goes so you're going to find something. I'm under review by TikTok constantly. Well, I don't know. I hopefully can start a new account. Know I probably should, man. Yeah. Political comic. Turns out not not a good time. Yeah. But now. But we will talk about politics like deep, you know, like. Yeah. I mean like to the, to the point that it's like, you know, you can't like, whoa, how do you get a book out, like what's going on or like, so I don't know, I think for your situation, you know, you should probably think about, you know, making a new one.

00;16;40;18 - 00;17;04;05
Unknown
Yeah. For real? Yeah. Because otherwise, I mean, you you kind of invisible, if, you know. Yeah. Social media sites, you know, I'm. No. For real? For real. Yeah. It's, it's unfortunate. Definitely, for sure. But, you know, hopefully it does work out. So, so all right, for you, this is like a time on a podcast. I know with last podcast, we're talking about, like, you know, your time being here, Europe and stuff and whatnot.

00;17;04;05 - 00;17;24;09
Unknown
The Europe, you live in the UK, but you try, you toil around a lot, you know, doing stand up comedy. And how's that been so far like this year or like maybe like, say around September, October because things have changed. You know, this is, you know, there's Trump in office now. So people have different views about America.

00;17;24;16 - 00;17;43;22
Unknown
Reasonably so. And how has it been with you traveling throughout Europe since, you know, Trump? It's tricky, right? I mean, like, what's been interesting is when something this devastating happened, I know, you know, and I was going to be devastated by it happening. Right. We was talking off pod. You know, I voted against him. You voted for him.

00;17;43;22 - 00;17;58;25
Unknown
But you know that's not the point. Hey, you know, smart through culture talk, you know, different cultures, you know, in different places. Not that he was like third country. That's three different vote for Trump in Ohio. And I was like, oh, I don't know. I should but if people don't get nuances I did not do that.

00;17;59;06 - 00;18;25;07
Unknown
Yeah. Where when you're people would take things literally like go, whoa, you said it. Yeah. He said it. It must be true. He said it despite the laughter. No, it was said he did not disagree. But it's been a really scary time because yes, there are now some people who are more interested in it than ever. But I think actually for America to do this the second time, one of the most frustrating things, you know, everyone has checked out, everyone is like, all right, I guess it's over then.

00;18;25;26 - 00;18;49;15
Unknown
That's how that's how you felt here. Like in Europe. Like even like going back to America, like, I, I've been on tour and I've done, you know, New York, LA. I've done these things and everyone's like, yeah, it's crazy, man. It's crazy. But they're saying it and like, what did you see what just happened. Like, you know, we're we're recording this the day before Cory Booker just broke the record for the longest filibuster of all time.

00;18;49;15 - 00;19;09;25
Unknown
I just seen it, and like, you know, how many of your friends really know what happened? Yeah, I don't even know unless I went on, like, Google and I saw their. You probably look it up because you were like, oh, I got a blue card. I got a fucking no, I should have, but I did not, shout out to the shout out again to social media.

00;19;09;25 - 00;19;34;09
Unknown
It just popped up. Maybe they knew. And it's you know what? It's a cool thing where, like, you know, he broke Strom Thurmond's record for longest filibuster and Strom Thurmond talk for 24 hours in a row. In in favor of segregation. Oh, Jesus Christ. So to have Cory Booker, who is a, you know, a black man from new Jersey for 25 hours, break that guy's record to to speak out basically against what's what's happening in America.

00;19;34;09 - 00;19;55;20
Unknown
I thought, you know, that's a nice way for history to have like, yeah. You know, I'm glad that's the way the record was broken. But, you know, I, I think it does the a little too little too late. You know, I, I've been really surprised because it's not just Trump. Right. It's. We we're out here in Europe, you know, you're in Germany.

00;19;55;23 - 00;20;18;07
Unknown
Germany just saw the AfD have their biggest gains since, you know, World War two. In Vienna, their Nazi party got a they actually won a plurality of the vote, which means that they didn't get the 51%, but they got the highest percentage of votes of anyone individual party. Luckily for us, the other parties basically joined forces to deny them coalition.

00;20;18;07 - 00;20;39;03
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, it built a coalition against it, where their only thing in common really is fuck the Nazis. You know, we'll take it. You know, France, France. Marine Le Pen's been gained, but a court just ruled that she can't run for office in 2027. So that's a big deal. In the UK, the left wing party won technically, but it was with their most right wing member in a long time.

00;20;39;08 - 00;21;11;28
Unknown
Oh. So it's like, pendulum swinging. Yeah. Italy has something to Italy has Meloni, who is, straight up Nazi for sure. Fascist, I guess. Right. And, you know, in India, you have Modi, who is again, very fascistic and kind of, you know, democratically elected dictator, shit, you know, so you, you know, you and then, of course, you have Putin and she, she so like, you know, it's, it's it's been a tough time to find reasons for people to have hope.

00;21;14;09 - 00;21;44;01
Unknown
And I think people are responding by checking out. Right. And attention. We talked about this, too, like, I was in I was in Vienna. I was doing some gigs in Vienna. Yeah. And, I think our audience was like 22 or 23, you know what I mean? A lot of people in that age range. And, you know, when we were 20, 23, I think there was a lot more political engagement from that age when we are just, you know, in America, this was back when, like the Iraq war was going on and we were like, man, this shit is crazy.

00;21;44;04 - 00;22;00;16
Unknown
It was a near the oh eight financial collapse. Yeah. You know, we were like, oh, you know, Obama. We were like, okay, let's go. Let's we can go. And now it feels the opposite. Now people are like, hey, man, it don't really affect me and y'all ain't going to fix it anyway, so why should I care? Interesting.

00;22;01;10 - 00;22;20;28
Unknown
People don't have the same level of hope and, in 2016, even I felt like, okay, we got to fight back. We got to prove this is not us. But when he wins the second time, people like oh maybe this is us. Yeah. It's like oh I don't know what what to do here I mean yeah well you know what it's like, it's like we talk about where with the Berlin comedy scene.

00;22;21;10 - 00;22;44;27
Unknown
Right. Without naming any names, but it's, it's like when does a comic deserve to get paid? And once the system becomes entrenched that comics don't, that don't deserve to get paid? And how long before you stop paying comics? You know, because or start cutting their pay because, you know, hey, I'm paying you something. Everyone else is giving you nothing, right?

00;22;44;29 - 00;23;03;22
Unknown
Right. And I think similarly, people are like, well, I guess if these assholes keep winning, maybe it's better for me to learn how to be one of these assholes. Interesting. These? Oh, no, that's interesting in terms of, like, to lose a whole and then like just saying, like, hey, this is what it is and it is what it, you know, maybe this is the way it should be, not should be, but it is what it is.

00;23;04;05 - 00;23;21;09
Unknown
Which I, I make that sense, but this is what it should be for me. Yeah. For me. Right, right, right. Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting, you say about checking out, man, because I think is like, I mean, a lot of different forces involved, you know, obviously him winning a second time, that obviously creates like, All right, I don't know what.

00;23;21;11 - 00;23;39;26
Unknown
And I think even what's a what's around all of that too. Right. So like, you know, in terms of Biden, you know, like the, you know, the things that have happened, I wasn't pleasant, right? He's like, are you falling asleep? You're shaking hands in the air. And it's like that that just doesn't feel, you know, you know, like, you know, it's all like Trump.

00;23;39;26 - 00;23;55;07
Unknown
Then after Trump, then you had Joe Biden, which like, you know, he's trying his best, I guess. I don't know, I'm I'm always saying trying his best cause he's old now. So I was saying from his like list, his policies and things like that. I mean, there's some things that obviously any president would have that is looked down upon.

00;23;55;07 - 00;24;19;24
Unknown
Right? But just in terms of like he's an old dude. Yeah. And you just seen him just interacting with leaders of the other worlds and in a way that you like, you know, hey, I mean, this is what we have, you know, hey, better than this. Than the other. What is the funny thing, too? Because I think this is what is, keeping us in this position is, you know, Trump has already done some terrible things, right?

00;24;19;26 - 00;24;34;01
Unknown
People will be like, well, Biden did some of this stuff, too. You know, Biden's up to and you're like, oh, we you take him to that man. I don't give a fuck. Like, he's not my dude. He's just a dude who was president for four years. Hey, I don't like listen, I give money to the center for Gender Refugee Studies.

00;24;34;01 - 00;24;48;12
Unknown
We've been taking Biden to court for four years. I don't give a fuck about that, dude. Oh, sure. Yeah. You know, I mean, we we go, we we go up against everyone. So when people are like, well, you know, Biden, you know, also did some terrible things on immigration like which I know I've been the one finding it.

00;24;48;20 - 00;25;16;05
Unknown
Where the hell were you? All right. You only seem to pop up every four years to be like, yo, you all think Trump is bad, but Democrats also almost as bad. Like, what's the point of you? Yeah, you're helping right. And B, I and I think even the when I hear people talk about it or like even, you know, because I have friends also that feel the same way like, you know, and and for me personally, like, I just, I'm, I don't know if I can even say checked out or like, not really like mentally in there, to be honest.

00;25;16;08 - 00;25;31;19
Unknown
And it for me, I kind of look at it and I just be like, all right. Like, well what is it you trying to do though? Because like, I think a lot of what I see or what I feel is that a lot of people are just arguing just to argue, right? Right. Or like vent, let's just say venting.

00;25;31;19 - 00;26;00;20
Unknown
And I feel something trigger were venting. And then at the end it's kind of like, well, a lot of energy and a lot of energy was dissipated. What happened though? Like nothing really. And then the people that know how to control that just get more entrenched or more in power. Right. So like the new thing now I feel, is to get people like put the battery on their back, get very like charged up and stuff and just burn out and just be like, all right, well, look, I know if I say this word, it will get triggered and this will apply.

00;26;00;20 - 00;26;12;03
Unknown
So am I gonna make a YouTube about that? They're going to look at this person, blah blah blah. And within a couple years, you know that that would be the end of that. And it started to become like I'd be looking at I'm like, yo, this is just like clockwork. Go. I should not be looking at social media.

00;26;12;03 - 00;26;33;11
Unknown
I'm like, oh, but of course, yeah, yeah. And I mean, think about it, man. It's like, you know, when you see the world going backwards the way it is right now. You know, do you really want to spend the rest of your life fighting so hard that someone else's grandkids can get the rights that your grandparent, someone else's grandparents had?

00;26;33;11 - 00;27;00;06
Unknown
You know what I mean right. It's like how how hard am I supposed to fight a fight that no longer feels winnable. You know, like I'm 36, it means best case scenario, I got 150 years left, you know, vampire slayer. Well, I mean, well, that's would be a shitty vampire one. He didn't even make it to 200.

00;27;00;06 - 00;27;20;29
Unknown
Come on. Yeah, it's like damn. Come on, man. Damn. Well, you sick or something? Yeah, right. You do the bad blood and we eat a piece of. What if something was going on? Hey, you got took the freaking tomato juice. He screwed this guy and put his sunscreen on, stupid. It's like, okay, you know, let's say I got 30 years left of really fighting hard about this type of stuff.

00;27;21;01 - 00;27;44;05
Unknown
If we're not going to. If if I can get other people to care, I really want to just be miserable for 30 years, or I want to go hot, like, you know, we tour, we see some of these cities where you're like, yo, if I just lived in this city, you know, I was like, Lausanne, Switzerland. That's my whole, you know, as long as nice is just gorgeous.

00;27;44;05 - 00;28;12;01
Unknown
Yeah, I ain't going to lie. That was like. It was so nice. I not even act. Yeah, yeah. I was like, wow, this is. My body's at peace. I'm here. Yeah, my body's at peace. Walking around those mountains, those views. You're like, man, maybe just go hide there, find a mediocre job that pays, okay? And, but, you know, I don't know, I, I feel like post the second election, I have never felt more torn about.

00;28;12;01 - 00;28;31;29
Unknown
Man, maybe I should quit and try to, you know, try to do some full time human rights work and just really try to, like, push the tide back in our favor and just do my part. Yeah. There's a part of you where it's like. Or, you know, damn. We tried. Yeah. You know, keep on, keep on going. I was sleeping on couches for 5 or 6 years.

00;28;31;29 - 00;28;47;07
Unknown
I'm pretty tired. Ain't no one else picking up the slack that I was hoping to pick up the slack. Maybe I just be like, all right, well, y'all good luck. Yeah, as I see, I, I, you know, I have documented my work. I put it out there, see it out there. No hope someone season but over. You know.

00;28;47;07 - 00;29;01;05
Unknown
You know, maybe I just run a bar and on, runnable or in a bar lays on. That sounds, funny, but then not cool. But then it could be sad. Yeah, yeah, but I mean, you know, at the same time. Yeah. But I mean, you know, to your point, right? Because you actually put in the work, right?

00;29;01;05 - 00;29;31;14
Unknown
Like you, you're a lawyer and, you know, some people that have actively you know, how would you say basically acted on behalf of the people that are disenfranchized? And so in this in, in these communities, in this parts of the world. So like you see close hand. Yeah. And you have actually controlled, I mean, which a lot of people can't say I would say a decent amount people can't say but like use having an issue that you, that you are like not having issue, you seeing an issue and you being able to have control over it to an extent.

00;29;31;18 - 00;29;45;23
Unknown
Right. That is a big deal, bro. I mean, yeah, it's also just a thing, you know? Well, I mean, on a city side. Yeah, man, I got a law degree and I ain't been making lawyer money for the last six, seven years. So I can try to do a good thing. The. It turns out you can do a good thing and lose.

00;29;45;23 - 00;30;02;02
Unknown
And I don't know that part. I'm doing that thing where I'm like, hey, good job. Keep up the good fight. You, me, I got a Patreon. Well, good for you. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. I'm broke now if you give you a dollar. But I'm saying good job. I support what you're doing. Well, how much is $5 worth it?

00;30;02;02 - 00;30;21;02
Unknown
That would. Yeah. You know, fight. Keep on fighting, man. Hey, you know, I'll give you five right here. You have five. Me. And I'm like, all right. Okay, cool. Let's jump off and buy some Gucci clothes. You think about doing your thing. Spend $10,000 over your $5. But it's it's a it's, it it's a thing where you're just like, man, what?

00;30;21;02 - 00;30;39;16
Unknown
I don't know what I, I've never felt more. Every day I feel something a little different. And I'm just like, okay, that means both decisions are probably wrong. So just take your time. Let the body heal. I don't know, I sound insane, but like you want to be like just give it up for some time to make the right decision because it can affect the rest of your life.

00;30;39;16 - 00;30;56;16
Unknown
But I think that's important. Even we say the body heals, right? Because again, you put a lot of this work in and then, you know, not maybe getting compensated where you should be. Right. And look, man, there's some there's some truth to making sure that you yourself are good in the way you are. So then you have the energy to keep on doing these things because it's tricky though, right?

00;30;56;16 - 00;31;15;28
Unknown
Because, you know, people a lot of people love saying that to me right now with their like, it's about it's not about anything you said, but it's like people like, man for you can heal others. You got to heal yourself. But that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Have you met one doctor? Man, 90% of doctors are some of the most unwell people I have ever met in my goddamn life.

00;31;16;01 - 00;31;30;04
Unknown
They are smart and they make a lot of money, but I don't fix none of the problems that came with the medicine with, And you know, what you going to tell them? You going to break your leg, go to a hospital like a before you heal my leg? You got to heal yourself. But they are sleeping. Not on couches, though.

00;31;30;04 - 00;31;43;12
Unknown
For a while, you know, so they're sleeping on, you know, on big mattresses. You know, I see these mattresses right? So, I mean, you know, there's some levels, you know, it was levels to it for sure. Yeah. You know, the the president of course. Right. You know, I'm not saying that, you know, obviously you can solve your depression.

00;31;43;12 - 00;32;01;04
Unknown
Right. But, you know, they got that they eat some good steak on the, on whatever the show to every doctor is steak, right. There's no vegan doctors. Right. You know, especially doctors make a lot of money once you make over, like, you know, an extra couple. Oh, it's the opposite. There's tons of vegan doctors. And then that's when you see, here's the thing about it that I find really weird.

00;32;01;04 - 00;32;16;06
Unknown
Yeah. It's not just had to make a lot of money. Is that for the first few years, they don't have a lot of time to spend it more to the same way. Right. So we we we always see these people make a lot of money, but we don't realize they only get like three days on to spend it.

00;32;16;20 - 00;32;36;29
Unknown
So as rich as you think they are, they actually way more rich. It's because they ain't got enough time to spend it. You got so much money. Yeah. You literally need more time to spend it, which is a good point. And so all of my friends who have that, I'm like, they'll be like, I, I'm just going to go to a resort for a week and a half and just work from there.

00;32;37;01 - 00;32;54;03
Unknown
Oh, she's that's, you know, that that's just a way to, like, spend the money in a way that I can enjoy the two hours I have off a night, you know? Damn. But I wonder if some do. Do. Are some of you low your friends, like, enjoying, like, the work they do? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. You know, that's the part that artist.

00;32;54;03 - 00;33;18;27
Unknown
I was talking to someone about this last night, actually, you know, artists tell ourselves. Amen. We live in a life because all people who don't live our lives are unhappy. It's like not people. People, people, but happy. God is doing good. This thing. Yeah. Yeah, I, I have a lot of friends who are lawyers who like. Yeah, maybe they don't love their job, but they love their life, you know, and their job pays for all the things they love, and they seem pretty damn happy, you know?

00;33;19;04 - 00;33;37;11
Unknown
And, I mean, they're happy. Yeah, yeah. And it's, it's a hard thing for an artist to wrap their mind around because a lot of the times we could never be happy living that life. But that doesn't mean other people can't figure it out. This that's actually the interesting point you bring up about like artists. You know, perception of what's, what's a good life and what's not.

00;33;37;11 - 00;33;54;11
Unknown
Yeah. Because like you know and every artist like it differs and every in every place too. Like moving here to Berlin, just seeing like, what an artist is trying to achieve or what they're content with. Right. A lot different than like, say, living in New York City or even LA, like a lot different. You're like, wow, it's it's interesting too.

00;33;54;11 - 00;34;13;24
Unknown
Like, what is the biggest difference you have found now? You know, Berlin to New York like after a year. Because I think, I think all big cities really takes a year, year and a half to get acquainted with the city. Yeah. You know let's, I bet you have that now. That's a good question. So you mean just in general like what I've or like as an artist.

00;34;15;09 - 00;34;37;12
Unknown
Both I guess. Okay. So let me go as an artist. So as an artist, I'd say that I, the one thing I notice is how people are not really, like, desperate to get on, you know, or like to really, like, achieve. Like me not achieve. Let me see you get picked or selected or be in this place is very like kind of like, hey, I'm doing my art to do my art.

00;34;37;12 - 00;34;54;08
Unknown
Yeah. Which I hear people say that back in the states of where I last live in New York City, but like, yeah, but you have these bills and then you also have fame and how all these things interact with each other. Yeah. So you just, you know, you have art, but you you're definitely in tune with how this art is going to be perceived by people.

00;34;54;10 - 00;35;12;03
Unknown
Right. And how I going to get money from this thing. Whereas here I don't feel that like, those things cost money here. Right? But like, I don't feel it like to that, to that intensity that I did in New York City. So just kind of being in places where I just like, you know, people, you know, they do that.

00;35;12;08 - 00;35;34;06
Unknown
Yeah, I'm kind of like, well, what's the next move? Like we are trying to like, achieve, like what's the next level? And what's interesting to us in America, New York is seen the most like that in the sense that you can't really make a living in New York. You got to you got to move to LA eventually, if you want to make that leap, you know, it's like when I was doing comedy out in New York, that was like the big thing was like New York had more real comics.

00;35;34;19 - 00;35;54;00
Unknown
Because there was no benefit to writing a sitcom and no one going to buy it in New York. Yeah, right. If there's the era of 30 Rock, we're like, oh, okay, maybe we should move back to New York. And it's like, not really. So it's funny that Berlin is like a hyper version of that of like, well, you definitely not going to make it in Berlin in terms of, you know, millions of dollars or whatever.

00;35;55;00 - 00;36;28;15
Unknown
But because you can make enough people, you have even more of a like, well then, you know, I really don't care about film and stuff or. Yeah. Getting to that next level or having a full packet or whatever, you know, it's yeah, so interesting to be in a space where that's not like the thing which kind of actually helped me out as an artist, because then it it kind of made me think about my time in New York City and what the things I were doing, the things I was doing, and maybe think deeper, like I, some of the things I was doing, me and maybe my friends and stuff was probably in a

00;36;28;15 - 00;36;45;25
Unknown
sense of in order to be picked. I think we talked about this like, a couple days ago, right of like, all right, some of the things I was like achieving or trying to do for myself personally was in some light was to put me in a position where I can get picked or to be selected for something that I feel like will be the next level.

00;36;45;27 - 00;37;05;06
Unknown
Yes, monetarily, but also to to be honored, just to be seen as like that dude or like to be in that position. I would say a decent mix of that. Yeah, yeah. So being here in a place where, I mean, to be honest, you can live comfortably, like in the sense of like, you don't have to be that like go, go, go, go, go in New York City.

00;37;05;08 - 00;37;20;18
Unknown
It was like kind of give me a breath of fresh air, be like hard to why am I like, what is it? Do I want to do? Well, especially because in New York, you know, being the guy or a guy in New York, it got you things that most people wouldn't care about. But to comics was everything. Oh, right.

00;37;20;20 - 00;37;37;09
Unknown
Dude, you just show, you just pull it up as I am. And you mind if I do five? Like. Yeah, you do what you want. You want to ten. Ooh, that's all I want. That's all you want it. And then it's funny. Is that in in Europe you'll have plenty of cities where you pull up and you're like, yo, can I do ten?

00;37;37;09 - 00;37;52;12
Unknown
And you should be like, hey, I'll be the best comic on this lineup. They'll be like, nah, man, we fall, man. You know, we got a bunch of people trying to for the first time, you're like, what? You're like, And it's and it's to what you're saying is, because there's no pressure to make the show good.

00;37;52;24 - 00;38;12;15
Unknown
Because as far as they're concerned, we're the only English option on tonight. Yeah. And even what, like even that thing of what's good. I think we talked about, like, what's good and like, what's, you know, bad and things like that even not being defined now, of course, like, I have my own reservations and my own thoughts about it, but like just for the commute, like just for the place that I'm in, what's good and what's bad.

00;38;12;15 - 00;38;27;26
Unknown
So like, I'm, you know, sometime I be observing. So it may not be for me, but then seeing it might be for everyone in the room, they might legitimately have a good time. And that is shown by them paying the money to. Yeah. Yeah. So seeing that I'm like, okay, that first I might be like, but then I'm like, all right, what?

00;38;27;26 - 00;38;50;02
Unknown
But maybe what I feel of what's good, what's bad was right, was wrong is different out here. True to an extent because I mean that there's a transaction that's happening and it transaction. I was fighting for New York City and actually happening here. So I'm like, well, I, I, I'm, I was not even asking or even expecting that actually happen freely here.

00;38;50;02 - 00;39;15;09
Unknown
So the like it goes both ways. I think to some extent people aren't having a good time on a lot of shows in a lot of cities in Europe. Because I think the shows are funny. They're heading for the nostalgia factor, the community aspect of it, right where they're like, oh man, this English like, I'm back home and I'm surrounded by people who are at my level of speaking English.

00;39;15;12 - 00;39;48;29
Unknown
Interesting. Where a lot of times when, especially when you're in like central to Eastern Europe, you know, everyone can speak enough English. But if you like a expat from the UK or from America, you're constantly in rooms where people are like, I don't understand the reference. I don't understand that saying I love to talk about. But then when you had a comedy show, almost always the comic understands that reference and almost always, at least 8 or 9 other audience members in that small room understand those references, and suddenly you don't feel as alone.

00;39;49;01 - 00;40;10;23
Unknown
So I think they're having a great time with those shows. But the comedy is a, just happens to be on like like, here's an even weirder example. So when I was in the Netherlands, I used to live there. I, I went to a Spanish show. Oh, shit. You know Spanish? No, but, no, but, you know, you want to, you know, learn a bit.

00;40;10;28 - 00;40;40;07
Unknown
I, I was really interested in, what is the rhythm of of comedy when it's at an in another language? Oh, that's a real question of comedy. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I was like, yeah, I want I want to try to test it. And, Yeah. And you know, it was interesting because one, the rhythm is very different because in Spanish, what I've noticed was the punchline is not when they stop talking, they almost have this hype move where they'll, they'll be like premise, setup, punchline.

00;40;40;10 - 00;40;52;19
Unknown
They get to that punchline and they'll keep talking. But the words they're saying are like high words. Guys speak a little bit Spanish, right? So then, you know, it gets the laugh and they're like, you know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? I mean, it's crazy. And and that just keeps building the laugh more and more and more.

00;40;52;19 - 00;41;15;01
Unknown
It's super interesting. Wow. But but still, what you saw is so many people were they're not going to the comedy of people were just doing Louis C.K. bits, you know, translated to Spanish. Okay. Yeah. It was a different time. It really wasn't. But, it really was, five years ago. Yeah. It wasn't that long ago he was canceled by that.

00;41;15;11 - 00;41;30;19
Unknown
But people in Europe don't care to the same degree. But it was. But it was like people were just like, yo, we're going to come to this show. The show was an excuse for us to hang out, and then we're going to hang out till the end of the night. You know, this is just step one of what is going to be a great night.

00;41;30;21 - 00;41;53;22
Unknown
Yeah. And. Yeah, so it's in Europe with a lot of these multicultural cities. I think people are still longing for that moment of familiarity. And that's what English comedy provides. So I think so many people that's an interesting. Yeah. That's a that's a good point there because yeah I mean obviously you know these shows you know there's a hangout after there's a break.

00;41;53;22 - 00;42;11;23
Unknown
People are hanging out. This is like a thing to do for the night. Right. Especially because think about it from this angle to like, you know, we don't get a lot of citizens at these shows in any of the cities. True. And, you know, when we do, it's going to be a worse show. I mean, you know, did you try to figure it out?

00;42;11;23 - 00;42;30;02
Unknown
I guess, all right. But I mean, it's like and that and that is the difference is that they are trying to figure it out. And other people are already in the flow. Yeah. Which makes it a. Yeah. Which changes the dynamics of the show depending on the amount of people. Right. Because then at that point you, you know, you can't even do comedy more.

00;42;30;02 - 00;42;44;20
Unknown
You kind of do like a facilitation of like, you know, space because they trying to figure it out. You trying to help them figure it out, so to speak. If you want to take it to you have to talk a little bit slower. That slower one that was, that was a that was a struggle for a while.

00;42;44;22 - 00;43;05;27
Unknown
Even still, I got to be like, you know, very like. But the the you know what? Because, you know, comedy is music. And when you got to talk slower, your entire rhythm has to change because, you know, you're no longer able to just go with the flow conversationally. You have to suddenly, you know, in your mind being like, okay, that's kind of I gotta, you know, step slower, half lower means the punchline.

00;43;05;27 - 00;43;23;17
Unknown
I got to come maybe two beats later, just that it still got the same flow and rhythm to it. Right. So I get the same laugh. Yeah. Because I do think a lot of times, you know, the real reason that you don't get as many laughs in, like, the Netherlands is when the Dutch are there, or the Prague when the Czech or their, you know, Berlin when the Germans are there.

00;43;23;23 - 00;43;41;17
Unknown
It's because they get the joke a half second after everyone else. So they get the joke. Then I feel comfortable laughing a little bit late. I don't want to be clowned like that. Yeah. And I guess, you know, that's always going to be, were my thing of, like, if I'm the only one in the room being like, I want everyone quiet after they laugh, like, you go back.

00;43;42;05 - 00;44;00;18
Unknown
Yeah. But then the inverse also happens. We're done after the show. Those quiet people are the ones coming over. Dude, I had a great time. You're like really? Yeah. You laughed once. But it's because they were laughing the whole time, but just in their heads because they didn't want to get called out, especially in today's world where so much standup is now just crowd work.

00;44;02;29 - 00;44;21;10
Unknown
So it's, it is that, it's that. Yeah. It's that really weird mix. It is. And you do bring up something about when someone's in the audience and not laughing but they come up to you. But oh my, I really love the, the great job this number you by yo what I am. Yeah these things and then talking slow that's another like I when I did a show at Comedy Cafe.

00;44;21;27 - 00;44;35;06
Unknown
I was at MC actually, and was a lot of people, a lot of people, it was like packed that room. Packed did it, you know, do my stuff or whatever. This is why I was new. This is like one newly came out here to Europe. I was doing my thing. I was talking to way too fast.

00;44;35;08 - 00;44;47;12
Unknown
I remember at the end people were like, man, I really like the energy, man. I really like it. I understand what you're saying, but I really love like the, you know, the coming up. Really? Yeah. I was kind of like, all right. I was saying some jokes up there, but like, people come on, like, I like your energy.

00;44;47;15 - 00;45;05;14
Unknown
I was like, I, thank you. Like, I know I like your energy is such a double edged sword because it's like, well, I didn't really do this to show my showcase my energy. Yeah. I mean, I mean, I get laughs from my riding dog, like, my energy is supposed to be part of the show. Sure, but that can't be.

00;45;05;16 - 00;45;11;05
Unknown
Yeah. It's like if you watch a dance and you're like, man, I love the hat.

00;45;11;08 - 00;45;32;24
Unknown
But yo, the hat is just an accessory. Like, what are you talking about? You know, man, you know, you you read someone's book. You're like, man, I love that font, man. That fast man. Man. The table content so applicable. Wow. Great page count. Yeah, yeah. The font size is my favorite joke to tell every comic, after their show.

00;45;34;05 - 00;45;52;13
Unknown
Amen. Which you made up by not having a lot of punchlines you made up for by making your show real long, man. Well, you know, it's for the community, right? That's, any show, especially one I really like. I lose a little. I love saying that because you can tell that that's, like, the worst thing in the world to say.

00;45;52;16 - 00;46;14;28
Unknown
Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, I sometimes I'll always want to talk to you, man, because, like, you know, New York City, the way comedians interact with each other is much rougher. So it's just like roasting constantly back and forth, like, you know, whereas here you don't get that that much, especially because it's I think it's even worse in that it's rougher, but it's just showing love.

00;46;15;00 - 00;46;33;26
Unknown
It is, you know, in a lot of cases. Oh yeah. And so it's not just that it doesn't happen in Europe, but I think a lot of times also because people got egos where it's it's like, nah, I would never do that, but also because you suck and I'm great and you're in my way. You know what I mean?

00;46;33;26 - 00;46;47;29
Unknown
Like, you'll see this from some of the younger kid where you're like, oh, I don't want to. I don't want to be silly. And because you see this in L.A., too, and L.A., people don't bust balls the same way they bust balls. And in the. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Okay. You know, I realized that when I went out to L.A. before you.

00;46;48;00 - 00;47;05;07
Unknown
Because. Because people are like, you ain't gonna get famous, man. You know? Don't humiliate me, man. Yeah, actually, one thing I realized when I went to L.A. for the first time, I'll do stand up comedy. Is that sarcasm? Really wasn't a thing out there. I remember I was at some toggle spouse. Me and my friend, his name is, Brad.

00;47;05;27 - 00;47;19;07
Unknown
And we went out to New York. He lived in New York City for a while. He just moved to L.A. so when I was out there, he was like, oh my God, thank God. Some eyes here I can just bust ball with. Yeah, he's a oh my God. So we're at this taco place. And I remember they had like two different types of, seltzer.

00;47;19;07 - 00;47;37;18
Unknown
What, fizzy water or, you know, or whatever. What are they called out here in Europe? But basically water were bubbles in it. So there's two and a half gallon sparkling. There you go. Sorry, I've been out here way too long, bro. You know, every time I say sparkling water and you were like, what? So at this taco spot in LA, we made a order.

00;47;37;18 - 00;47;54;00
Unknown
And then there's two different, types of sparkling water. It was like, a Topo Chico, and then like some other one, you know, the whole ethos or something, right? And I asked the guy who's, checking us out. Oh. Oh. It wasn't sparkling water, y'all. That's right. I'll keep it real. Hey, they have a sparkling water version.

00;47;54;07 - 00;48;09;02
Unknown
Put it on, man. He line. You okay? Well, are you from L.A.? So de facto, I guess I lose. No, I probably arrived. Yeah. No, we got glasses, so I have to. I was like, I can't, I can't let myself be on foot. I can't let people watch this and think, sit. Don't know what I mean. I'm saying a sparkling water, man.

00;48;09;05 - 00;48;22;27
Unknown
It's just Mexican soda. Man is good. That's the thing. To get out of this whole entire podcast, This piece of shit. You said you lived in LA, but man, he over. No, man. I bet that's what it does. Think how he does this. But you don't even know what good Mexican food it like. You know, it's a slippery slope.

00;48;22;27 - 00;48;36;20
Unknown
Real quick. Brings down the stairs. My podcast. This this guy, we bring it on charlatans on this podcast. Yeah. You know what? That's good for the engagement, man. That's good for the view I know. Right? I mean, I should have just let it slide. I'm like, well, I didn't know Europeans know about the word charlatan. Okay, cool.

00;48;37;17 - 00;48;52;08
Unknown
Very events out here, but, Yeah. So at this place and then. So you ready to check us out, right? Are we ready to make the order? You know, and I'll ask. I'm like, hey, what's the difference between these two? Like, seltzer water? Are these two fizzy? And he's like, he's like, yeah. And then I was making a joke.

00;48;52;08 - 00;49;08;04
Unknown
I was gonna like, what's the do between these two? And then he's like, oh, yeah, sure. So he's looking at the two bottles and he's like, yeah. So I think this he was really analyzing the two bottles I'm talking about. So the point we saw him kind of like start to get a little like self-conscious cause he didn't know and like, me and Brad was laughing and then like, I was like, but he really doesn't get it.

00;49;08;04 - 00;49;23;12
Unknown
I was like, oh my. Like, yo, they're both seltzer water. Like, you don't notice the Joe. Like, yeah. Laughing a little bit when I said it. And you're like, no, no, no no man is good. And he's like, okay, okay. I was like, whoa, there's tension. There was like some tension in the room. I was like, whoa, dude, dude.

00;49;23;12 - 00;49;46;07
Unknown
There was like that. I mean, that was so wild to me. I found it was easier to bust balls in the alt scene in LA, and it was easier to bust balls in a club scene in New York. I don't even know those scenes exist anymore. But like, at least when I was coming up, yeah. LA and people were more willing to be silly and the club people were just like.

00;49;46;10 - 00;50;04;29
Unknown
And it is like it really was that thing, like, I hate it at my time in L.A. Because my time in L.A., every conversation at like the store or whatever, just a like a dick measuring contest where it was like, if someone else introduced me and said my credits, then people would be nice to me. Yeah. La, you know, but if not, then I just like, man, who is this dude?

00;50;04;29 - 00;50;22;08
Unknown
And then it's like. And then I would find myself, you know, just out of loneliness, like being starting to be like, oh, yeah, I just had this thing, this thing, this thing. And then I'm trying to be nice, and I'm like, I really need to do that just to talk to this fool. Like, why do I care? Yeah, it's just loneliness does some weird things to you on that front, but it's,

00;50;22;10 - 00;50;39;14
Unknown
Whereas New York, I felt like, yeah, New York had some weirdos too, but yeah, every MC would, I would say, have like 1 or 2 dudes where you could just bust balls and hang out in the back. Yeah. That bus in Boston was like, I mean, even when I went back there, since I left, like, I went back there last September and went there, man.

00;50;39;15 - 00;50;52;02
Unknown
It was like, it was it was like it was refreshing, but at the same time, like, not jarring. Those guys like, oh, shit, I forgot. Yeah, come where I would. I went out there wearing all black. I remember I was one dude whose name was Lenny. I think he's on a show. I'm where he looked at me.

00;50;52;05 - 00;51;15;05
Unknown
He looked me up and down. He's like, man, you dress like a metrosexual. Hahahahahahaha. That's it was I even laugh. He just had a cigaret smoke and they just said it. It's just I remember because that was when we were talking about it like 2 or 3 days ago where, like, because I remember the first moment I got here on this trip, because you're from New York, I feel like way too comfortable around you.

00;51;15;07 - 00;51;39;15
Unknown
I mean, I'm way too comfortable. I'm like, I start, like, at 100 immediately. Oh. So, and you can see yourself being like. And I remember I said something that, like, took you back for a second. So you were like, man, you got glasses. And that's why I laughed so hard, cause that was the most New York comeback of, like, how are you gonna make fun of me when you man, you you got trouble seeing.

00;51;39;18 - 00;51;52;24
Unknown
Hey, what's funny is that I don't think I said anything like this is a mid-year. It's a you got here. Yeah, yeah, because I, I like, but that's my thing is I could tell that you, you know, you got the European front, because you're stuck in Europe. Right. And I was I know I'm a I'm not. Yeah.

00;51;52;26 - 00;52;02;23
Unknown
I'ma get it out of you I get oh my this piece of shit, he really bring it out. I'm like, man, my visa renewals come in, so you gotta relax. You know, I got it.

00;52;03;21 - 00;52;22;18
Unknown
Oh, man. Yo, that's. It was funny. Yeah. Every time, bro, I be a Busta boy. I mean. And also to the people you, you you aspire to be or like, your comedian, you know, hire. Nah, I agree, but like you, comedian grades, they all bust the balls. Like, yeah, that comedy sell it at the table for again, you know, Patrice or no Bill Burr.

00;52;23;06 - 00;52;41;11
Unknown
Kevin Hart, you know, Jim Norton, you know, all these people, you know, Jim, Florentine all these people, they, you know, Chris Rock, you know, all these people you see in my do you hear stories about people in these tables and they're roasting and, you know, you see it anytime Kevin Hart and Bill Burr, like, are interviewing each other for some podcast, whatever.

00;52;41;17 - 00;52;59;08
Unknown
Like ten minutes. And they're just, like, going at each other. Yeah, yeah. Do you see that one episode with Bill Burr and the one, the one juju. I forgot his name and oh, my bro, it was like a whole hour. Adam. Like busting each other balls. Like roasting each other, bro. It was like that was the. Oh, it was like a master class.

00;52;59;08 - 00;53;15;26
Unknown
That's wonderful. Yeah, it was just a meta. It, like, just passed. I forgot the guy's name, bro. But if you. I see his name. But there's one thing I want to go back to it because I'm like. And I just wish people understood that these are expressions of love, you know what I mean? Like, this is a, expression of mutual respect.

00;53;15;28 - 00;53;34;14
Unknown
Not always, you know? I mean, like, I'm sure we've all had moments where, like, now that's. You feel real. Oh, I mean, yeah, you know, that's how you know where the line is. It was that, it was that story I promised to tell about Patrice O'Neal. So every once in a while, Patrice O'Neill would be busting someone's balls and in turn to cheat and be like.

00;53;34;17 - 00;53;55;07
Unknown
And that was some really. Patrice on them. Oh. It's crazy. I've been doing comedy for so long. When I first moved to New York, you were still alive? Yeah, yeah. Yo, how was Patrice on the. Have you ever seen him, like, in person? Like this? Nope. I just figured I'd see him eventually. So, never, never went down to go watch him do that.

00;53;55;07 - 00;54;17;20
Unknown
That's. I should have. Absolutely I what always I said in New York and shake that. Yeah, bro. Oh. Yeah. Man. It's it's, it's crazy. You know, the it's we're. I talked to someone about this. It's interesting. When I first moved to New York, the coolest thing in the world. Was drinking to the bar close. Right.

00;54;17;27 - 00;54;36;02
Unknown
Doing shows. Right. Doing like 4 or 5 mics in that night. And then at the last Mike you was at or last spot or whatever talking to the bar close. Yeah. That sounds like fun. And, and just connecting with the comics world with my and you know, just shooting the shit and swapping notes and being like, oh, you hear about this thing?

00;54;36;02 - 00;55;03;07
Unknown
You heard about that thing buzzing each other's balls? And but then I feel like once Patrice died, Giraldo died. Two dudes started passing away. I think the new generation that just much, a lot more responsible. And that's good. I mean, good for them. And it's getting more work done. But that fun is missing. I was in New York and and I was like, hey, man, ago, you know, and we all had a good show, okay?

00;55;03;09 - 00;55;26;28
Unknown
We all hang out. People are like, oh, I gotta go. Gotta get these clips. You know, like, yeah, you're like, damn, we got priorities now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah. So I guess it's a double edged sword, right? Because yeah, I mean, you know, on one end that could have been replaced even during those times as like, hey, I need right, I need, you know, work on my packet or I need, you know, write something where, you know, cause let's be serious, man.

00;55;26;28 - 00;55;44;16
Unknown
The times that you probably spent with the other comedians, y'all talking, riffing. Yeah. All like heightening things that could have been on paper to be something in the future. They the amount of ideas or like different back and forth or jokes that you had amongst your friends. I could have been turned into something cool. I disagree. Okay, completely disagree.

00;55;44;17 - 00;56;14;25
Unknown
You think so? I think I think this is a common misconception, okay. Because I think it's actually in these moments that we are learning how to be funny. You know, I mean, I think it's in these moments we're learning how to be interesting. And, and I think if you were to put that in a way that was trying to monetize it, you would be a lot less funny because you would find the first thing that works and you would keep pushing that button until you got notoriety out of it.

00;56;14;28 - 00;56;36;08
Unknown
That's fair enough. Okay, that that that's almost akin to, like, someone who was always on or like they try and do their bit and make conversation like, yeah, stop it. Like, yeah, yeah. Okay. Well I also just like, you know, you know, when you watch a great comic, the amount of thought that went into those jokes, and you watch a bad comic, you go, oh, this is a lot of this is a lot of jokes.

00;56;36;11 - 00;57;02;13
Unknown
And that's a good thing. Young comics, you allowed to have a lot of punchlines, but if they all surface level, then you're like, well, what's the point of that? Yeah. I didn't come to the show to watch a bunch of appetizers. And so I do think that, like, comics should value the hang as a way to just learn how to how to be funny, how to think about your career, how to, you know, and you.

00;57;02;15 - 00;57;16;08
Unknown
Because you can do both. You know, I turned in a bunch of packets. You know, I'm saying, like, hey, now we got our stuff done. I right on television, right? Like, yeah. So it's not like, a lot of us didn't end up doing that. I used to. I used to drink a lot with this. Do.

00;57;16;08 - 00;57;31;22
Unknown
Dan Pearlman. He had his own show on Showtime. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Shout out to him. Yeah. You know, Flatbush misdemeanors. Flatbush misdemeanors? Yeah. Nico White, who's gone on to be, like, one of the go to host in all of New York City, if not just a great headliner in his own right, Nico White. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I yeah, man.

00;57;31;23 - 00;57;51;08
Unknown
Great comic. He didn't. You did the first thing on Netflix a year or two ago. That young dude ever. Yeah. Because he. Because he really been going since 16. Yeah. Yeah, he's been a game for a minute. So he got that. Even when he talk to you, you blow shit like that, you know? You forget he's at the same like, you know, age you out and let me listen to do like to do has a lot of wisdom.

00;57;51;08 - 00;58;14;24
Unknown
Yeah 100%. And so just going to hang out with them, getting to talk to them, I think that made me a better comic, made me a better person, made me better understand his business in a way that helps you not take this stuff so personally. Right. That's the best part about New York is you're not getting stuff and you're frustrated and you look to the right and you're like, oh, there's a comic who I think is even better than me, and he getting less stuff than I am.

00;58;14;26 - 00;58;30;28
Unknown
That's true. Oh, that's a good. Yeah. Because sometimes you be like, damn. Yeah, I thought I was fucked up. This person just came back from JFK. Now they can't, you know, I mean, yes. Oh my God, the you know, that's the thing no one ever tells you about is how many of your friends are going to go to JFL.

00;58;31;01 - 00;59;12;04
Unknown
It's not going to work out and no one tells them what to do. Now. Yeah, bro, I have friends who have hilarious, hilarious dudes. What did you feel had two showcases bombed on the important one? Killed on the one no one was watching. And now they're just sort of chilling in New York. Yeah. It's like also knowing the game, too, because I remember I knew somebody that was going to jail for him when he found out, like just here, his process, I was like, oh, this is some stuff that you would never get told unless you was just around somebody that got in, like even a way he got in.

00;59;12;10 - 00;59;24;19
Unknown
I'm like, oh, you got to audition. You got audition. His manager was like, yo, send me a tape. I, you know, send it over and send a tape. He's like, oh, I got it. And I'm like, yo, you do audition? Not. I was like, well, well, well I'm like, well, I thought that's the only way we can get in.

00;59;24;21 - 00;59;45;24
Unknown
Then even his whole process, he's like, oh man, I'm in JFL, man. I start writing some. I gotta write like a series. I gotta write a song. I was like, what are you? I think you just performing and you just go on, man. He's like, no, no, no, I got to have like, I need have a package with like multiple different episodes, like ready with this type E, like we said it, I will say, oh, and I mean now he's writing for like the, you know, for the for the Oscars or something.

00;59;45;28 - 00;59;59;10
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Like a Daily show. They mean so like he. So he was right. He was exactly right. Yeah. But he knew the game like he knew the game and like even as me because I think he started a little bit earlier than I did. So. But we would I doing the same mix. But he's just like a little far ahead.

00;59;59;10 - 01;00;12;16
Unknown
Yeah. But he just knew the game. He's already funny. He knew the game. He knew everything and he was just ready. I'll just listen. I was like that way. I was there that he got the call. He's going to JFL. I was like, oh shit, man, y'all just now I'm like, you know, he's like, nah, nah, nah, bro.

01;00;12;16 - 01;00;31;03
Unknown
I got it like that, right? And then I was like worse. After that. I was like, oh, this is the game, yo. Okay, I damn got it. Yeah. You know, you guys start shaking hands with some of these people. All right. Who's going to be there? Wrapped, unwrapped. You know, that little game of like. All right. You know, maybe I got this management did that, you know.

01;00;31;03 - 01;00;48;05
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's I mean, I'm telling you, it's a tricky. It's a tricky thing too, because. Yeah, there's that Jeff's two groups and it's the rubbed people and it's the unwrap people, and, the right people have a leg up. Let's say that, yeah, they do. The other people have a chance because they deserve a chance to get wrapped.

01;00;48;05 - 01;01;03;29
Unknown
But it's, Yeah. If you swap to sometime, there's that swap in. Right. Let me drop this one. I'll be on rep and then boom. And then pull myself, that we used to talk about that at, I do a lot of shows at the Comic Strip Live. Right. Late night, late night. The comic strip. Right.

01;01;04;01 - 01;01;31;14
Unknown
And the owner of the comic strip, Richard Lincoln. You know who recently passed away? Yeah. Used to be Sandler's manager. Oh. You know, and, used to be Eddie's man, you know? But, you know, and, they would leave them for bigger people eventually. And, he was always like, yeah, let him leave. But, you know, keep in contact because, you know, because they were talking about I think Sandler had a opportunity to finally move up.

01;01;32;05 - 01;01;48;05
Unknown
And the two managers were talking, and one of them was just, like, really pissed. Like, man, how could he do this to us, man? How could he leave us like that? And, you know, it was like, listen, he's a rocket ship. He's always going to be a rocket ship. Better wave while it goes up there. I'm trying to take him down when fail.

01;01;48;07 - 01;02;06;00
Unknown
Yeah. And, I was I always respected him for that. I was like, oh, that's a cool. That's. Yeah, that's a that's a wise. Can. People forget like these managers and stuff? A lot of them are young. He was older. I mean, I don't know I know him as old as hell. So in my head he always built like so, you know, we 35, 36.

01;02;06;00 - 01;02;28;09
Unknown
But a lot of managers, agents earn in that age range or younger sometimes. And so for them to make the right decision for the right reasons, sometimes you're like, thank God. Yeah, that that is not guaranteed. Right. You know. Yeah, that's true. Especially with them I mean the game and just like understanding and being these I guess back to your point of the hang right.

01;02;28;09 - 01;02;44;01
Unknown
Because like, you know, that usually happens in a hang these type of conversations that are happening on stage, it's like off stage, you know, y'all just drink it. Just you know, y'all just drinking. There's some pop in your mind, you know, talking about oh wait oh one minute lightning. Let me yeah let me let me get a mental notebook and.

01;02;44;02 - 01;03;06;16
Unknown
Yeah. Absolutely. Right. And yeah it's it's a, it's it's it's crazy man. It's interesting too, because then you, you know, you come from a conversation like that and you talk about Europe and that's also a mind fuck to just to realize like, oh, I like going to Switzerland and performing there. Well, it still hasn't hit me really like yet even that I went to a different country I never been to.

01;03;06;16 - 01;03;28;02
Unknown
I was able to perform and get paid. Yeah, that is like insane. That's crazy. Like if I was to look at myself like from five years ago and I hear that I'd be like, yo, who am I? Like what I think about this, it was probably easier for you to get booked going from Germany to Switzerland. Then I would have been going from New York to New Jersey.

01;03;28;04 - 01;03;40;12
Unknown
Bro, for me to even be booked in some parts of New York in itself. Yeah, yeah. To go from the West Village to the Upper East Side.

01;03;40;14 - 01;03;59;00
Unknown
Yo, bro. Yeah, that is okay. You just. I'm like something that, as an artist, being here, living in Berlin for a year and a half, just like the access to some of the places you're able to go to, you know that. Well, that's why we put up with a lot of the bullshit, you know? Because at the end of the day, you're like, what I rather do.

01;03;59;00 - 01;04;19;25
Unknown
Berlin. Listen. Vienna. Barcelona, Lisbon. In one tour? Or do I want to go to Cleveland? Yeah, well, Cleveland be the second biggest city on the tour, and it's actually the nice when I want to be in. Right. And it's only in the city and it's like five square mile radius. Yeah. Right. You start going out, you know, you look difficult.

01;04;19;29 - 01;04;35;23
Unknown
They get dicey real quick. Yeah. Dicey. They know. And not only because of the danger but because of food options. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I remember all right, I was in West Cleveland and I was like, where are the minorities? That's it. And I went. Then I went to easily. I was like, well, here we are. Hey, I forgot that we're in the Midwest.

01;04;35;23 - 01;04;57;18
Unknown
They got a clear divide to I, you know, no one talks about that. You know, America segregated as hell, especially especially the Midwest. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, that was uncomfortable. Yeah. Because because you're in the comics, you're kind of welcome everywhere. But, you know, once you know, you're a comic, and they don't really talk about it, it just sort of is what it is.

01;04;57;25 - 01;05;21;03
Unknown
Yeah. But you're like, yo, this some, like, Romeo and Juliet shit. Like what? How are you going to be this divided like that? All right. So literally just going to one side like, whoa, whoa, you know. Yeah. It's because I remember I did Cleveland right before Trump got elected the first time. And it was one of those things we were like, yeah I should have seen the coming okay.

01;05;21;03 - 01;05;43;17
Unknown
Cuz on the ground because you know Cleveland is the progressive part of Ohio. Wow. Right. Yeah. It's a city. It's a big city. It's got you know and when you go in there and I remember was me and it was Dennis Lasky with was L.A. comic, and we, we're at a diner because our flight just landed we to the first diner on the way to the airport.

01;05;45;04 - 01;06;02;27
Unknown
Is me and this Ethan, who's Jewish and everyone stares at us the entire time. White, black. They're just like an alien and a Jew. What the hell is happening here? Like they just. And not even, like, in an angry way. They just like, what is what you mean? And you walk into a diner. What's the what's the joke in this?

01;06;02;27 - 01;06;24;15
Unknown
What's happening? And the punchline is, they better leave, you know, that's wow. And you're just like, wait, but this is like the eighth biggest city in America. How are y'all this surprised to see an Indian person and a Jewish person? It was interesting, man. It was interesting. And and, you know, it's it's now been ten years a damn.

01;06;24;15 - 01;06;42;22
Unknown
But I realize that. But it's like, it's, you're not going to get that in Berlin. You're not going to get that in Amsterdam. You're not going to get that in Prague. You're not really going to get that, you know. And so you keep going on the list. Yeah. In terms of people looking at you, just people looking at you like that, like like, yo, you know the why are they here?

01;06;42;28 - 01;07;00;06
Unknown
I think you still can get that to some degree. Yeah. Like, I mean but that was like an, a regular part of the city. Okay. Like in Berlin, if you were in the ring, you're not getting that. And, I think you only get that when you start talking. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. You start talking about, oh, not I use this and now you're actually America.

01;07;00;08 - 01;07;16;25
Unknown
But even then they look at American stuff with positivity. They depends. Yeah. But mostly I would say for us. Yes I mean yeah because there's some level of like oh where they loud or they are touristy. I get that part. But I'm saying like for the most part, they're like, oh, an American. Like the reality is they hate the British.

01;07;16;25 - 01;07;36;21
Unknown
They don't they don't hate America nearly as much as they hate the British. Really? Well, why they hate the British tourists, man, are the worst. Oh, okay. You know, in Amsterdam, those are the ones damaging the city. But a British tourist, because they're on, like, bachelor parties and stuff like that. They're wasted. They're, they're just walking around, just making a nuisance of themselves.

01;07;36;23 - 01;07;52;09
Unknown
Yeah, man, people hate that shit real quick. Oh, right. To stay. That's what I say. No statues. Yeah, yeah. No. Oh that's okay. Yeah, that is a story. And what's funny is that I didn't realize that stereotype until I was in Paris. Yeah. And I was just out here all these, and I was like, oh, wow. This is egregious.

01;07;52;09 - 01;08;08;09
Unknown
Yeah, this is crazy. It's really bad. It's really bad. And they don't. Yeah. I don't seem to care at all. It's like the stereotype is so clear and then people so like, it's funny too, because when you are in the UK, don't make a whole day like we were the pipe with nothing more British than apologizing.

01;08;08;09 - 01;08;26;07
Unknown
I'm like, not outside the UK. Nah, I heard that a mile away. I was like, oh, that's what they be talking about. Yeah. I was like, oh shit, you. When you're in the UK, you spend your time like, how the hell these motherfuckers colonize the world? And then you watch sectors like, okay, those guys colonize the world. Yeah, those guys just kind of the money.

01;08;26;12 - 01;08;39;26
Unknown
Yeah, they're the ones that, like, was on the ships or whatever. Yeah. You know, pillage and shit. Absolutely. Yeah. They're the ones that they send off to these four countries and, they died in masses and then they what's on your list, man? What's on your list of, like you said, Switzerland. What's what's another place you'd find a tour?

01;08;39;29 - 01;08;59;19
Unknown
Trying to tour. Oh good question man. So like a lot of places in the east part of, of Europe. So, you know, like, you got, Poland, Lithuania, you know, some of these places just. Yeah, I, I've heard, I seen other people do it, so. Yeah. Like why not. Right. Also to, Portugal. I've never been there before, so I'd like to go there.

01;08;59;19 - 01;09;17;16
Unknown
Italy. I here is not the, you know, depending on where you are in Italy, but just nice. I've never been there. Right. Other tour Netherlands. I performed in Netherlands before a few times, but I just want to go out there as a proper thing myself to do. But also, Austria, you know, I haven't been there before.

01;09;18;03 - 01;09;34;09
Unknown
Like. Yeah. Vienna stuff. I never been there before by here. Great things about it. Those are the places so far. I would say there's some parts of Germany that I do want to hit to, like I never, I never been to or I just would like to go to, like, Hamburg. Me? No, Leipzig. I've never been to, Frankfurt.

01;09;34;09 - 01;09;48;24
Unknown
You know, I heard things about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did Hamburg for the first time. Yeah. That's. It was nice. Nice. Yeah, I didn't I done Hamburg before, actually, I did, I've done it, once before, but just, you know, like Germany a bit because, you know, I'm doing a lot of things in Germany, like in terms of my experience here.

01;09;49;01 - 01;10;02;20
Unknown
And just like being able to see, like, let me connect with other people out here in Germany. So, basically anywhere I can go, I'm in the state. I'm in the mindset now where I'm like, all right, let me just see what's up. Done. You done Luxembourg? Luxembourg. I have actually, I did, a little spot I did.

01;10;02;20 - 01;10;17;16
Unknown
Okay. Now it's the first to open a night. The first night of the new club. Oh, hell yeah. So it was, me and Aaron Crouch, and then, we did, like, did the first two nights there that was pretty dope. And, go to Indian River next door. Doesn't want to tell dude. No no no no no no no no no no no no no.

01;10;17;16 - 01;10;33;06
Unknown
That's the one across the street. No I in our next door. You gotta go. Yeah. Next time. Well, that's the most random shit that I, I vouch for is they got a vegetarian Indian restaurant next. Next to the club? Yeah. It's right there is the best vegetarian food I've ever had. Really? Yeah. Yeah, I really passed it all the time.

01;10;33;06 - 01;10;46;24
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, it's it's just random, but it's like I was like, oh, damn, this shit is good. Wow. I thought, I'll tell you what the guy the next time you're there. Yeah. Please. Yeah. I always go across the street to like the regular doing this by the fries and that's fine. That's fine. Yeah. But yeah, you got to do it.

01;10;46;27 - 01;11;01;25
Unknown
No, you got to do it. Yeah. All right, I got to do it. Yeah, yeah. I mean, hopefully I hit that back up to. But that's what that's what I'm here for is, to let me know about the best Indian food spot. Yeah, there was this ramen spot in Prague, stuff like that. That's like, that's that's my, you know, the best Thai food in Europe.

01;11;01;25 - 01;11;28;25
Unknown
That's in Amsterdam is political asylum. Thai. You know what I mean? You do got glasses. So you know, Hahahahahahahaha. Okay, so now I have to ask you, right, what are some of the top, like this? Are the top three or top five countries that you've been to here in Europe that you really loved, enjoyed with? No. But, you know, it's like, well, we were saying earlier to, to an extent where it's like you know, we are performing expats and I'm lucky enough.

01;11;28;26 - 01;11;50;14
Unknown
And now any city I go to, I get a few repeat people, but it's still mostly new people being like, oh dang, English comedy. Hell yeah man, let's try this out. So it's so night specific that I have had great nights everywhere, and I've had way of times everywhere, you know what I mean? When I worked in Amsterdam, I did not like Amsterdam.

01;11;50;17 - 01;12;04;04
Unknown
When I come back to Amsterdam, I tend to have a great time. Why? Anyway, just the stress of the job I had. But it was, it was, it was, I think it just random, you know, I mean, I think it's just some of it is just like, oh, okay, these crowds are good and those crowd sucked or whatever.

01;12;04;24 - 01;12;25;00
Unknown
And some of them are amazing. Of course, even when I was working there. All right. Berlin pre-pandemic, there was nothing like it. Pre-pandemic, there was nothing like it. Like the amount of people you could cram into one room. And how many of those people who would come to a free show but knew they wanted to pay afterwards?

01;12;25;03 - 01;12;42;24
Unknown
Wow. You know, the scene was just a little bit more curated back then. It was a little bit more. All of these shows will be good enough so that if a show is really good, people are excited to pay. What a time. It's different now, right? So I, you know, and it's like the Berlin then that's in my top five forever.

01;12;42;27 - 01;13;08;11
Unknown
Berlin. Now sometimes, you know, Prague. Prague is another great one where you're like, I, I've had some of the best nights of my life in Prague. Like best nights of my life. Just not just a show, but hanging out afterwards at, you know, but I've also had nights where I'm like, you know, I did that thing with Live Nation and, the Comedy Store, we did a 200 seater, and they sold eight tickets in Prague.

01;13;08;14 - 01;13;28;06
Unknown
Yeah. And it was me and a bunch of TV comics from the UK, and they sold eight tickets. So I've had nights like that where you're like, I or I do, at least I'm getting paid. I'm gonna do 20 minutes and he's eight people, but it's gonna be 20 minutes. Eight people. Right? And I'm kidding. Of course, it was 11 people to give their tickets out for free, but,

01;13;28;08 - 01;13;45;08
Unknown
Oh. You know, Vienna, Vienna is one of the coolest. Another. Another city where that's. You go there a lot. Yeah, I go there a lot. And and the comics there, you know, Jack and Reggie, they're great, you know, so hanging out with them and swapping tips, you can feel like New York a little bit, you know?

01;13;45;11 - 01;14;02;10
Unknown
But I've also had nights in Vienna where you're like, oh, we didn't sell a lot of tickets at this tonight. You know, and I got that stress right, especially because it's not a cheap city. Right. Barcelona man. Barcelona. When you have a great night in Barcelona, it is, it is one of the most at peace moments you'll ever feel.

01;14;03;01 - 01;14;21;00
Unknown
Because you know, you can hear the beach, you know, the sounds of the ocean. You just had a great set. You feel like you're on top of the world, but not in the way where your ego was going crazy was more where your ego feels at peace, right? So, you know, I could. Lisbon. You know, I've had great nights in Lisbon.

01;14;21;03 - 01;14;38;03
Unknown
It every city. It's like, hey, it's a club before. We probably gonna have a great time. You know, it's going to be the ticket to the sold out. Well, that night was going to be weird. Or it could be great. Sometimes you have 20 people in a hundred seater, but because they're so happy you're there, you're going to have a great time.

01;14;38;03 - 01;14;53;02
Unknown
Your wallet's not going to have a great time when you on stage is going to have a great time. Yeah, you kind of like, oh, at least I had, good time. You know, artistic wise, Lisbon, I can't sell tickets to save my life in Lisbon, so I have a great time in Lisbon. Every time there, even the solo shows, two, ten people.

01;14;53;02 - 01;15;13;08
Unknown
You're like that. Is. That felt wonderful. I mean, are there any places you haven't been to yet that you would like to perform in? Let's see. I have never done, Oslo. I've heard Oslo is, is is is great and a lot of fun. I love to go back to Copenhagen. I did Copenhagen as part of that Live Nation thing I never done on my own.

01;15;13;10 - 01;15;31;07
Unknown
I love to see oh, being is dope. It's just out there. Very nice. Yeah. You know, so a lot of it is that it's like, I'd love to go back to Croatia, do more than just, I think I did, Dubrovnik, but I'd love to split, you know what I mean? Like, I look at some of the other cities in those towns I did Belgrade.

01;15;31;12 - 01;15;44;16
Unknown
Oh, and that's fine. I don't I don't have to go back there, but like, okay. So I had I'm good. I had a great time in Belgrade. It was just that the mob came to our shows. I was like, oh, okay. Yeah, that was funny as hell. Because the mob came. They never told us there was no mobs.

01;15;44;17 - 01;16;02;17
Unknown
Let us figure that out. What the hell? But then. And they hated the show. But their wives love the show. During the break, their wives just like, hey, will you shut the fuck up? We're trying to enjoy the show. And so these mob guys who'd been heckling us the entire first half just, like, sat quietly and annoyed for the second half, and it made the show better.

01;16;02;17 - 01;16;21;11
Unknown
And you're like, bang! Hey, no one got more clout than the Serbian mob wife, man. That's cool as hell. Yeah, Serbia. You know, when it comes to the energy. Yeah, yeah. You know, I'd love to go back to Romania. You know, I did a bunch of cities in Romania on just one tour. Let's go back and just, but, you know, it's it's all it's all just comes down to, like, do I have a good plan for selling tickets?

01;16;21;11 - 01;16;43;28
Unknown
Do I have a good plan for where I'm going to stay? How are we going to make sure the transportation is is sorted? Like so much of Europe is just learning how to have as many jobs as possible, especially as a especially as an artist. Right. You know, it's like such a wild, wild west. You got to even even though it's funny, I actually had a question, but, more like as a tourist, you're like, nah, I'm a comedian.

01;16;43;28 - 01;17;02;28
Unknown
So like, oh yeah, yeah. It's like I'm come down to, I'm not there. Just, you know, peruse around like I'm here to, like, do some work. Two at the same time. I went to Prague. First time I ever went to Prague. One of the first times I was touring outside of the Netherlands. After I left my job, there, I, burnt out from that job, right?

01;17;02;28 - 01;17;22;15
Unknown
Just burnt out. Just exhausted. And I'm there for a week. I met some Prague comedians at, show in Netherlands. They were kind of Prague booked our way. We'll figure it out. I should, I'm like, hell yeah. So I fly out, you know, and, they're like, well, we got you Tuesday. We got you Friday. You know, the rest time.

01;17;22;15 - 01;17;40;17
Unknown
Just enjoy Prague. You know, they put me up and it's like, spot. And I don't leave the hotel. I'm exhausted. I'm tired. There's a Kentucky Fried Chicken nearby, and I just go pick it up, and I go right back because I'm just burnt out and saying, but I'm, you know, I'm walking around just from the Kentucky Fried Chicken to the hotel.

01;17;40;18 - 01;17;58;04
Unknown
Been like, man, this place and all that. I don't know what we're talk about. Yeah, and, then on Friday, I go on a date with a girl I met on Tuesday. Okay. And she takes me around the city and I'm like, okay, I was wrong. Haha. I was like, oh damn. All right. Now this did I get really nice.

01;17;58;04 - 01;18;18;22
Unknown
I'm an asshole. Like I was like oh what's wrong with me. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. What's wrong with me is 100% the only thing I, I should have thought because I was like, damn. Okay. That's all. You know, he was really burnt out. He was like, wow, I, I was really fucked up. I was really messed up, man. I didn't think I was giving her a lot of credit for is I was, I was just in a hotel room, which is mad and depressed and, burning up.

01;18;18;24 - 01;18;38;27
Unknown
So hot. Yeah. And there was no AC, and it was on, like, the fifth floor. Oh, right. SAS, so. But they don't give a fuck about suicide the way America cares about suicide, which means the windows could open. But I didn't know that, because in America, hotels, unless you open the windows. So you just. Oh, use bacon in there.

01;18;38;27 - 01;18;55;12
Unknown
And then she spent 30s being like, what the hell is going on? Your room, which is open the windows. I'm telling you, not even a minute. The room just cools down. Bro. You was all the way for the use. Hi, I was angry. Yeah, yeah, it was stuffy. You weren't though. Within 30s. She, just, like, saved my life.

01;18;55;12 - 01;19;10;23
Unknown
And I was just like that girl, man. That's cool. And, yeah, that's the homie for life. Yeah. And so that's my, you know, that's my tourist experience in Prague. Hahahahaha. Okay, so yeah, the good that you stuck with the. Yes, the end of stuff like that. But but like that was my example of also just being like, oh, I am a bad tourist.

01;19;10;23 - 01;19;32;10
Unknown
And I would try to do things. But the reality is, most of the time you don't really have a lot of time. Like you try to force yourself a little bit. What I would do, for a couple of, a year is just I would book the hotel if I was staying in a hotel, a little bit further from the gig, so that I would have to walk through the city to get to the gig and thereby actually get to see the city center and stuff like that.

01;19;32;10 - 01;19;47;13
Unknown
Wow. And that was like a cheat code way of getting there. But, you know, that means, like, oh, what? What'd you think of this museum? Like, why? To go in it? Yeah, I just walked past it. I just walked past it. I was like, oh, damn. Nice outside. Yeah. Nice pillars. Yeah. Let's go. The statue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a lion.

01;19;47;13 - 01;20;04;12
Unknown
The lion statue here. Oh, there's an eagle somewhere. Yeah. Of course. Dude on a horse hunt, man. Europe loves dudes on horses that way. So. Sure. Person on a horse, you know. Oh, man. And so. But I'm trying, but I'm just. It's not a, you know. Yeah. I mean, also to. We do stand up to. I'm not going to lie to any place I go to.

01;20;04;12 - 01;20;19;11
Unknown
I'm kind of like my first thing in my mind is like, is there any stage I can get up on? Yeah. You know, where am I? Stage time. How am I take a cell? That's all, you know? And then, to be fair, when I go with other people, then we will see all that other shit that's like, oh my God.

01;20;19;11 - 01;20;36;11
Unknown
Like, yeah, yeah. You like, you know, nighttime comes, you're like, yeah, of equal to go out. But is there any comedy? I mean, do you see me watching? It drives me nuts. I'll tour with other comics every once in a while. And the comics who really fuck with like, hey, man, let's just like, a Roman remains over there.

01;20;36;11 - 01;20;51;03
Unknown
I'm like, I'm a big fan of history. I'm like, I don't care. Let's like, I'm trying to get ready for the show, trying to find the next show. Yeah. Either where the show. Where the next show? Where's a bar? Where's food? Yeah, well, that's kind of what you said. There's that. Yeah. We are not role models. Not at all.

01;20;51;05 - 01;21;04;04
Unknown
Know. I mean, this is to let you guys know. Don't be. Don't be like us. Yeah, yeah. Well, because again, I was with the other comics. The other comics want to do that show. That's just that's not how New York comics think at all. We're just, like, about stage time. Like almost a. Yeah, almost to a point.

01;21;04;04 - 01;21;23;15
Unknown
That's what really only matters. Yeah. You kind of get better. You don't get better. No, man. We can have a real conversation. It's like, what's a park? What, bro? I didn't really like. I didn't know how to really interact with parks until all the indoor spaces had to shut down. Yeah. So the pandemic for me to give a damn about a part I as a walk through parks as a logistical thing to be like, all right, I've got to go through here.

01;21;23;18 - 01;21;36;02
Unknown
Yeah. Well, like, for me to sit back and look. Oh, no, this is the destination. Yeah. Hey. Oh, my God, I can't do it. I still can't do it. I struggle with it. Oh, yeah. Even I hear you're. Yeah. Like. Oh, okay. Yeah. This is nice. There's a tree. I'm from California. Don't give a fuck about trees. I'm over surrounded by that shit.

01;21;36;02 - 01;21;51;29
Unknown
Yeah, but like sitting down in the grass, you know? Yeah. I mean, this is this is a new revelation. I was in Budapest, Hungary. Yeah. And, I remember, bro, I went to this place like this monument or site and, like, you got to walk up these stairs and he's like, platform had grass and stuff. Yeah. I'm like, I just went there, sat on the grass.

01;21;51;29 - 01;22;11;01
Unknown
I wasn't even listening to music. Nothing. And I have a bag there with me. I just laid down and went to sleep, bro. Okay, wait. That's interesting. That's actually my biggest fear. Will go to sleep. My thing is parks just put me to sleep, you know, or parks the beach. I hang out there for like 20 minutes. I'm like, I will nap time, bro.

01;22;11;01 - 01;22;29;20
Unknown
I've done that a couple times. Yeah. And I, I mean, I, I'm a soldier, you know, so get my stuff right. Yeah. And that has been a recent revelation being like, well, working like just find a patch of grass in a nice, serene place. People not, you know, people are like very serene and everything people talking in the background is dogs running around.

01;22;29;20 - 01;22;49;19
Unknown
I see life interacting in different ways. You just like, You just take a nap, you wake up again, stretch, you know? Yeah. I mean, look, it sounds wild, even for me to say to myself, well, okay, but here's my thing. Because I think we're still I think we're still arguing the same point because, like, that sounds great, but I'm going to go with someone else then.

01;22;49;22 - 01;23;11;04
Unknown
Oh, yeah. Not for. No no no no. I mean like when people are like, hey, let's have a picnic. I'm like, okay, we all go watch me sleep. Haha, yeah, yeah, yeah. Picnics are big here in Berlin. That's another thing to wear to be out and you know, well, I was, I'm from California. Like when I went to law school, people would be trying to take me to the beach and I'd be like, I'll go to the beach, but you hand me a beer, I would like one beer, and then I'm gonna go to sleep like I'm not a fun person in the surroundings.

01;23;11;04 - 01;23;25;23
Unknown
Yeah. And not because I'm trying to be mean. I'm just immediately sleepy. Yeah. It also is hard to have deep conversations when you're in those places. Right. And which I like, you know, if you're a stand up comedian is going to get deep to some degree, some quickly. Yeah. So like to have like no space for that.

01;23;25;23 - 01;23;42;23
Unknown
All right. If I'm with other stand up comedians, it can work. At least we can have some changes, some weird stuff this night and can go somewhere to some degree. Why are were like regular people? I'm the only one. Yeah. Oh, boy. It's like wow, I was I went back to hang out with some law school friends and for like 30 minutes this dude talk about thermoses.

01;23;42;23 - 01;23;56;19
Unknown
I'm like, and everyone's in goal. So like, they all got to chip in on their opinions. And I'm like, I don't care about any of this. Any of you did care. It will be a problem for be making jokes about, yo, how weird are you to be in this thing? You know what I mean? Like, you would be roasting this guy.

01;23;56;19 - 01;24;11;17
Unknown
Yeah, basically. And everyone be like, oh, and you, Right, right, I forgot, I forgot we got to be cordial, all right? Like we don't understand it. Thermoses. Help us bring wine to the park. When I go home, it's like, oh, wow. Great. This is our life. You know what that thing is? I would love to do comedy.

01;24;11;17 - 01;24;31;24
Unknown
And then I would love to watch the game. There's like, it's the two things and that's it. Yeah. I'm trying. I'm a book reader, you know, I'm so I'm, my thing is all of my interests tend to be the kinds of interests that normal people don't want to have a long conversation about what? What's like the what's the one that comes to mind?

01;24;31;25 - 01;24;43;28
Unknown
You're like, all right. And people do not give it that. You know, I love history. So if you know if I about the Byzantine Empire, people like hell no. I don't even know what that is. Oh, okay. Yeah. You you know what I'm talking about. But how about this? You talk about basketball people like. Oh, yeah, man. Jordan.

01;24;43;28 - 01;24;58;18
Unknown
Great. I'm like, yeah, yeah. But he he been gone for 30 years. Yeah I mean it's like, oh my the real stuff I'm talking about like you know, did you watch that new pin down screen LeBron using on the Lakers. That sort of free of reason people be like I we only talk about like that. Like okay.

01;24;58;18 - 01;25;10;29
Unknown
Yeah those are and I mean but you in the Arab now. So I feel like a lot of people out here know a lot more about history. Yeah. Then American. So at least you got that to you. It's. But what I'm saying, it's like so it's those two things and then it's comedy. And I want to talk about comedy.

01;25;10;29 - 01;25;23;25
Unknown
I like a higher level of like your. What was it like doing the hour there? How was that 40 minute mark? I mean, how people don't talk about that either. So probably even out here don't want to talk about it. Yeah. And a lot of plays a lot of plays. They don't know. You know in Europe. They don't know what I'm talking about.

01;25;23;27 - 01;25;31;20
Unknown
Oh fair enough. You know what I mean. They're like the 40 minute long now. It was a whole the whole time.

01;25;31;22 - 01;25;47;25
Unknown
He was like, I got one rule, man. Bullshit talk. Europe. And I got to live here. Yeah, I mean, my visa renewal, you know, got so busy places. Yeah. What's happening? And anyway, come to the page from. I'm going to listen to the names I know. Right. That'd be the only Patreon for that month. Oh, yeah. Everyone signs it for that one month.

01;25;47;25 - 01;26;03;10
Unknown
You know, all the names, and then everyone just, signs out. Oh, and you get comics who are who are annoyed that they're listed, and you get comics. I know they're not listed. And, yeah, I mean, yeah, when I even win. Yeah. You want me to win by. Yeah. I mean, yeah. I mean, I wonder how that would work out.

01;26;03;11 - 01;26;23;16
Unknown
That would be interesting. So. Okay, question I have for you, or so I think I asked you this before and something that really helped me out a lot that you mentioned about, like the different type of hours that exist out here in Europe. Yeah. Outside of America, you have the Edinburgh hour, you have the, European hour and you have the American hour, which really helped me out a lot.

01;26;24;09 - 01;26;50;04
Unknown
But I guess in terms of now, this new phase of touring that I'm doing, or so. Yeah, I guess a question I have for you or some maybe some advice is what would be the best way to like, set up a tour for yourself. Logistically speaking, logistically speaking. Oh, big cities close to each other. Mass. Okay. Like you, you'd be surprised at how much money you save and how much effort you save just by picking cities that are close to each other.

01;26;50;04 - 01;27;16;28
Unknown
And in a lot of ways, like if you do in Barcelona, do Madrid, because then at the end of the gig you can run back to Barcelona at the hotel you're staying in. Right. If you're doing, what's another example of this, if you're doing any of the German cities, you know, make sure it's when you're in Berlin because then you can get back to Berlin, like really try to plan it where you're like, okay, if I'm doing Hamburg let me do number.

01;27;17;26 - 01;27;38;04
Unknown
You know, if I'm doing Prague let me hit a Brno. Let me hit up Olmert's, you know what I mean. Let me make it so that the journey isn't me crisscrossing this damn continent. Yeah. And I've done that before. And there's ways to do it where it's not that expensive as well. Right? Flights and stuff. But you're like, man, this shit is a burden, right?

01;27;38;04 - 01;28;04;13
Unknown
Especially like you think like a flight. Even if it's an hour flight, you got to go to the airport two hours early. Few American random places, like, now we've got to check your passport anyway, right. And I'll let you just ask to add up. And so a really get to you. Hey, so I guess because I don't, you know, obviously live in Berlin now and there's some places where I've already booked and like, plan on going to, what are your thoughts of like going from like, Berlin and going to one of these places and then coming back or so like that?

01;28;04;20 - 01;28;20;01
Unknown
Or would you suggest like, like literally stringing as much as possible before you get back to Berlin? The thing about this, right, you just said Switzerland, right? Yeah. So Switzerland, you got Zurich, you got Basel, you got listen, you got Geneva. Those are like the four main cities that people tend to, visit. I'm sure I'm missing one of them.

01;28;20;04 - 01;28;42;20
Unknown
And, would you rather do Berlin, Zurich, Basel, back to Berlin, or would you rather do Berlin? Zurich? Berlin? Basel? You know what I mean? Like you're just adding so much time on that train. Fair enough. That's a good point. Yeah, you're right, you know, and it's it's it's tricky. It's tough to be productive on the third vehicle.

01;28;42;22 - 01;29;01;28
Unknown
True. Unless you slept on the first two vehicles, that third vehicle where you're on the next train and you're just like tired, but you can't sleep. You kind of just doomscrolling on your phone. Yeah. Sense thing is, I feel like. I feel like I'm in situations where doomscrolling to go back to where we started on this podcast.

01;29;01;28 - 01;29;17;25
Unknown
Yeah. Can feel productive because it's just a way for me to turn my brain off on that. You know, that fourth connection? You know what I mean? That. Yeah. Where it's like, oh, I'm so tired and I have to get here. I have to check in. And she got to go off and I got to go run out.

01;29;17;27 - 01;29;38;09
Unknown
Yeah. To, to perform. I got to come back and then especially like when I, when I like, was touring like super like every day new city type stuff, you know, that stuff is every day new city. Like how every new city was, like draining. And it was like two, three weeks of it in a row.

01;29;38;09 - 01;29;58;24
Unknown
And you just like, like afterwards you're like, oh, I got to like, chill, like, damn it, because we did Romania. And that was one of those, you know, do the gig and sometimes do the gig and then run to the train station, or even weirder, do the gig, then wait an hour and then run to the train station, get to the new city, check in.

01;30;00;03 - 01;30;18;29
Unknown
Or maybe it's an eight hour train. So then, you know, check in in the morning. Hope that the hotel allows early check in, sleep for a little bit, do the gig. Maybe you get to sleep that night in that city, then. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so you really hitting it? Oh yeah. That's also an an alert too, of like doing that type of string of stuff.

01;30;18;29 - 01;30;40;14
Unknown
But like even by just coming back from Switzerland, I was like, yeah I probably would avoid that. You know, if I can watch cricket too, because, you know, it's also sometimes you can feel FOMO is maybe a weird way to put it, but like, yes, you know, where you'll do three nights in one city, you know, and it's a good time, but then you start making friends and you're like, oh, mama, you know that, bro?

01;30;40;14 - 01;30;51;18
Unknown
Same thing. What happened? I was at our house or whatever did it. Oh, did a show out there, very good show. And then after people were like, hey, you wanna grab some beer? You wanna hang out this now? Yeah, yeah, I got, I actually a bus. I got to go. Yeah. To Berlin. I was like, this, this is not.

01;30;51;23 - 01;31;05;28
Unknown
This does not feel good. It's a bummer. Yeah, yeah. And then if you get, you can't win. Yeah. I'm totally like, you know what? I did really well on this gig. I made a good amount of money. Yeah. Fuck it. I'm gonna get some cheap ass hotel. And then they do that and people are like, I gotta get home, man, I got kids.

01;31;06;03 - 01;31;24;12
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. Very like, what am I doing here? Oh, yeah. And in this random town by yourself at some bar, he's like, oh, great. Yeah. Just wondering what that. Yeah. Okay. I did that in, Kaiserslautern. Oh. You out there? You know, because, Aaron brought a few of us over. So I think one person was staying at her place.

01;31;24;12 - 01;31;45;01
Unknown
She got me a hotel, right? Yeah. And I no longer do that. Oh, I think it was at the same show. Me. I wonder if it's the same one that we did last year. No, no, I know this is, like, way back. Okay. Yeah. Okay. And I, hung out for the night in K-Town. After all, the military people are gone because they go to sleep right after the show, or they go back back to the barracks or whatever.

01;31;45;01 - 01;32;01;17
Unknown
They're done. Yeah, right. Wiesbaden, they tend to hang out a little bit. But in Kaiserslautern, I remember there they were. So I mean, in fact, back in the hotel, all the comics are gone too now. And I just I walked around, go to a bar, and I just meet some of the most degenerate, just like the world's like.

01;32;01;17 - 01;32;17;23
Unknown
Oh, this is weird as hell. Looking at your life like, what the fuck am I doing? Yeah. And, I to get drunk, I have a decent enough time, but I just remember being like, I don't want to. Yeah. You know, there are certain scenes where like, nah, I'm. I get, I get the last train home.

01;32;17;23 - 01;32;40;28
Unknown
Yeah. Bruno was like that to me to some extent. Every time I'm in Brno, I have a great time. But I'm like, am I going the last ride home? Okay. It's because it's not a city where you can get the Prague back and then, you know, you can sleep in, in Prague and. So like, I'm trying to book my tours where I stay in individual city for multiple days, so I guess it sounds like then find these, hub points where it's like affordable or like things to do.

01;32;40;29 - 01;33;03;27
Unknown
Yeah. And then make the travels from there. So. Okay, maybe, like, if you're in that area, Czech Republic being the base and then going to these places, but then getting trains back to, to Czech Republic after the, Prague and then doing that way. So I find these hotspots or places where you can, like, find good places to stay and just like, you know, travel that way.

01;33;04;16 - 01;33;23;10
Unknown
And it makes a big difference. It makes a big difference to, like, your productivity and also also get the hangouts, you know, you get to hang out with the Prague people more, you know, so or you get to hang out with the Berlin people more or whatever. So yeah, that's, that's that's my old man advice. No, I mean, but it's good though, because like the yeah, the logistical things are the one that kills you.

01;33;23;10 - 01;33;43;03
Unknown
You like, you know, fear of missing out you. But, not for me. It's not. But you see, other people have like, oh, I want to do like this. Like, this is like this. And then you come along these, you know, obviously start spending the money like, damn, y'all like what the like I gotta go do this and traveled and then and they you'd like the logistics and everything is the mental strain on you more than you perform in the hour.

01;33;43;05 - 01;33;59;01
Unknown
Yeah. You know. Yeah. The hours like almost a relief to some degree. Hour is almost always the fun part, especially in Europe, where I think the expectations on the hours are still growing. So it's, it's the thing where you're like, no, I'm, I have a lot of like, I, you know, I'll easily do 60 minutes of crowd work or whatever.

01;33;59;01 - 01;34;17;08
Unknown
I just have a good time. Yeah. And like bro, the thing is, it comes back to the whole, artist thing and me being here for a long time. Stuff. It's like el being outside of America, and you specifically allow me to really ask myself, what do I really, like, find enjoyable? Yeah. Like outside of industry and what other people have and like this art of stand up comedy and stuff.

01;34;17;14 - 01;34;42;09
Unknown
What is that of of the perception of it? Because it has been changing a lot. Right. What is it? Do I enjoy for real that resonates with the audience and like not saying to like, what are you in Europe to eventually go back. Good question I don't know. Yeah. Because I mean now I'm, I feel like I'm, I'm scratching the tip of the iceberg in terms of like you know going to different places of performance.

01;34;42;09 - 01;35;03;05
Unknown
So like that's a new unlock there of like wow Switzerland I never performed there. Oh my god I went to Copenhagen. Oh my god I might be going to other cities in the future. So I'm having such a good time here. I'm, I'm not even Russian. And when I went back to New York City to perform at places like, I was able to perform at the stand and some of these places and like, you know, just kind of like, oh my.

01;35;03;07 - 01;35;22;04
Unknown
Well, feel that that was that it wasn't like a oh, I missed out. Oh my gosh, I'm back. It's kind of like, oh wow. Oh that was cool. New York is weird too, because when you do the best shows in New York, the crowds aren't difficult. You know what I mean? Like trying to live up to the standard that the other comic set.

01;35;22;04 - 01;35;46;02
Unknown
That can be tough, in a good way. But the crowds are not like, you know, the best shows. New York have hot crowds, so you really working your ass off to get in front of rooms and people that a bunch of hacks you will kill? Haha. Haha. I mean, yeah, and I would bring it up to be like, well, a lot of those audiences already exist in Europe.

01;35;46;04 - 01;36;01;15
Unknown
You can kill for those people with the jokes you want to do. That is not hack shit. So why are you killing yourself to go back? You know, I mean, I'm not saying that's what you're doing. I'm saying I thought I found myself that too, because I'm like, what is the goal? What should the goal be? I love creating comedy, right?

01;36;01;15 - 01;36;25;18
Unknown
I love in all its forms. So I would love to go back to New York or L.A. someday to write on a show I would love to write on. Write John Oliver, John store or whatever. Right? But if it's not that, then. You know, New York is just an expensive place with less stage time. You know what I mean?

01;36;25;18 - 01;36;43;01
Unknown
So what's the benefit of that? That's, you know, yeah, to some extent you can stockpile shit that you can't talk about here on stage as references and stuff like that. You can make, you can talk about, you know, White Lotus if that's your flavor, you know. Yeah. Right. Leah, can you talk about hip hop? You can make hip hop references.

01;36;43;01 - 01;37;11;15
Unknown
They're not going to get them here. 91 but other than that. But I know what I rather do 12 in New York or what I rather do, you know, an hour in in Berlin. Right. And that's. Yeah, I mean, yeah. So I mean, to your point to what you're saying, I agree, is that I'm not in a rush to go back and also, this is a book called Different Every Night by something Alfred is like, this, book is like acting book.

01;37;11;17 - 01;37;25;16
Unknown
And, basically you saying something along the lines of, like the, the, the stage is the home for the artist or for the actor. And I kind of just looked at it in that way of like, hey, it is a place where I got a lot of station or enough station to do my art, which is stand up comedy.

01;37;25;18 - 01;37;50;12
Unknown
Then shit, that's my that's my place until something changes. Like, I mean, look, if something big caused me back in New York City in that's a greater stage or whatever big stage and shit I might. You know, New York has got some of the best live for people in comedy who have money. You know, I mean, then you're doing you're crisscrossing around town doing dope spot after dope spot every night.

01;37;50;14 - 01;38;09;04
Unknown
That's a great feeling. Yeah, right. I want to take it. And then after that, you get to hang out with your friends. That's a great that's a great life, right? If you're not doing that, if you at the pair on a Tuesday, shout out to the pair on Thursdays and Fridays and Saturdays and Sundays, I that's a Tuesday.

01;38;09;04 - 01;38;25;27
Unknown
First. Haha. Tuesdays, yeah. Tuesday. Even a pair is like now we get it. If you put the comic strip on a Monday, you know you're not having a great time. Plus.

01;38;25;29 - 01;38;46;19
Unknown
He lives in America and Europe is there is way less stress as an adult in Europe, you know, worried about health care. True. Right. You you live in an a dope ass city that's got good public transportation. And in Berlin, that means, you know, it's free. So you're right, you know, no, no hopping over turnstiles. You just walk through.

01;38;46;20 - 01;39;03;10
Unknown
You just walk through. You, you're making enough money to get by. That's way better life than the New York version of it. Yeah. You know, so it's it's tricky because I, I want to go back. There's part of me that definitely wants to go back, but in some parts more I'm like, to do what? To feed my ego.

01;39;03;12 - 01;39;20;03
Unknown
Yeah. Of being like, yeah, I'm a real New York comic again. Right. You know people. Yeah. Back in the same place, you know. Yeah. You got reminiscing of the Europe and back alleys in Switzerland and all these other places. Now, you and I now looking at, like, you know, trash bags as you walk in through the city and then, you know, looking forward to go to, you know, Wisconsin.

01;39;20;10 - 01;39;38;18
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah. You know, shout out Madison, hahaha hahaha hahaha. But anything else you want to say or anything you want to talk about before we, wrap this up now, I think we covered a lot of it. Yeah, I'll come back, you know? Yeah. I mean, by all means, you're more than welcome every time I talk to you.

01;39;38;18 - 01;39;57;01
Unknown
Because you've been out here for a while. Yeah, and you know, your insights and stuff really helped me out as a person newly here because, you know, we come from the same place, and, it helps out a lot. It's it's, it's one of the most fun things in the world. It's like we were talking about stuff, but we got more things to say.

01;39;57;01 - 01;40;14;23
Unknown
Boy, do it off. Pod. Yeah. Patreon. So you may. You may see it, but give me the money first, and. Yeah, yeah, we'll see what happens. Oh. All right. But, it's, you know, it's just it's cathartic to get to meet people. Are you talk, you just get to say stuff, and they know what it is you're saying.

01;40;14;23 - 01;40;29;06
Unknown
And while you're saying it, it's a big difference. Yeah. So I would appreciate it, man. Yeah. Now, bro, thank you very much for doing this. As always. Thank you very much. And guys, thank you for listening and are watching the The Third Quarter Talk podcast you boy. And yet often this is Sid Singh and I'll see you guys in the next one.

01;40;29;06 - 01;40;30;19
Unknown
Peace.