Starting Comedy in NYC vs Europe, Peforming with a Following, and Trigger Points w/ Wyatt Feegrado & C.K Comedy | Ep 93

Today I sit with Wyatt Feegrado, fresh off his European Comedy Tour. And Chloé “CeeKay” Brown, who opened for him on his tour. We talk about difference of comedy in Europe vs NYC. Also, their experiences on the road through different cities in Europe. We also share trigger points in comedy.

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Transcript

00:00:00:17 - 00:00:30:19
Speaker 1
What’s Going on here today episode I’m speaking with Wyatt Feegrado and also C.K. comedy, Wyatt he is from America California. Specifically, he’s Indian-American, and C.K. comedy, she’s half French, half American. And we all recorded this in Berlin, so we just sharing some of the things we’re noticing. And they just came Fresh Off tour when we recorded this. So sharing all the things they have learned touring around Europe and me living out here in Berlin, why we met each other in New York City, C.K. comedy we met, throughout parts of Europe.

00:00:30:19 - 00:00:53:19
Speaker 1
So just good to just connect, share some things that we've been noticing and hopefully you guys enjoy the episode. Welcome to the Third Culture Talk podcast. I'm your host, Nya Yeanafehn. In this podcast, we talk of people that are raised in a culture different than their parents, home culture or way of life or nationality, and now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than it is of our parents or even back in the day.

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Speaker 1
So let's get in today's episode.

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Speaker 2
I think young men don't use Viagra, but if you talked about one day and then the next day, I just rather have the insurance. Yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah.

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Speaker 1
So I mean no well no, no you do not bro. You're under 40 years old. Like, why would you even use it for fun?

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Speaker 2
Peace of mind for fun. Yeah. For fun. For fun because. Yeah. Because then, like, you know, obviously you could go like another round, but it's like, if you want to go a lot of rounds, I'm like, I just, I don't want to have to use any mental calories to, like, keep it. Hurry. I'm. Wait, wait.

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Speaker 1
How many calories you think you burning to go a second round?

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Speaker 2
No, no, I mean mental calories.

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Speaker 1
I saw, algebra or something in your brain to to make it happen.

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Speaker 3
I mean, I've actually never been with somebody who used Viagra. That's like, never had. I don't know.

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Speaker 2
You don't know?

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Speaker 1
Oh, shit. Yeah. You as a guy? Yeah, it's all guys.

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Speaker 2
And she's like, oh, I've never been with someone who who has like, please. I mean, I don't think you've ever been with like, yeah, okay, this is too much information. When you told me that guy went, wow, rounds is 38 years old, I promise you, I promise you, I don't know.

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Speaker 1
It's like.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, how old are you? I guess I don't know, like 32.

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Speaker 1
Oh, close.

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Speaker 3
I was going to say like maybe mid 30s. Max.

00:02:00:18 - 00:02:01:05
Speaker 1
Mid 30s.

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Speaker 2
Okay.

00:02:01:15 - 00:02:06:27
Speaker 1
Yeah. There you go. Yeah I know, no Viagra. No I mean not that you it's first of all it's somebody taking in whatever tell you.

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Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:02:07:15 - 00:02:10:04
Speaker 1
Yeah. If you swing in weights then I think you'd be fine. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
You know.

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Speaker 3
Like that, that guy, that guy for you.

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Speaker 2
Tell you it's just so fun. It doesn't it? Yeah, bro.

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Speaker 1
An erection that you have no control over, I.

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Speaker 3
Don't I don't get a heart attack from that shit. Can you get a heart attack from that shit?

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Speaker 1
I think you can. But, I mean, you know.

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Speaker 2
You got to take it.

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Speaker 1
So take longer when you're young because not going to, put at risk for, heart attack.

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Speaker 2
Jesus Christ to choose fun.

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Speaker 1
I wanted to have an age limit.

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Speaker 2
Sponsored by Rhino pill. Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1
Oh, no. No. Rhino pill. We do not endorse rhino pill here on this. I do not want any, liabilities on that. But other than that, how you guys doing? How are you guys doing? Good.

00:02:47:05 - 00:02:48:24
Speaker 3
Solid. Yeah, it's been great.

00:02:48:24 - 00:02:55:01
Speaker 2
Yeah. Last day. Dude, last day. This is like the last stand up related thing I have to do. Wow, bro. In Europe.

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Speaker 1
How you feel? Like. I mean, now that you're in Europe and not having to do some comedy.

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Speaker 2
Oh, it feels so good. It's so good to not have to do an hour every day. Dude. It's great. I mean, I love standup, you know, but about like about last week, I was like, yeah, I'm tired. I'm just tired, you know, from the travel. I'm just tired.

00:03:11:25 - 00:03:14:18
Speaker 1
Damn, I. And how about you? Like, how's it.

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Speaker 2
Been with you?

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Speaker 3
So I've been a touring opener. I've been, like, working nonstop as a touring opener pretty much since March of this year. I was opening, I was on tour with Andy Huggins. You might know.

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Speaker 2
He's the old guy from Don't Tell.

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Speaker 1
Oh, the real old guy with the glasses. The. Yeah. Oh, shit.

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Speaker 3
Okay. I was on tour in Europe with him, and I was traveling with him every day like we were. We were. We were really, like, going from place to place together. That guy's a legend. And then after that, I, Morgan J. Morgan, I opened for Morgan J. And that was really cool. And then I was.

00:03:44:22 - 00:03:45:16
Speaker 2
You know, Natalie.

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Speaker 1
Natalie Cole.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. She's gonna be with Natalie after me.

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Speaker 1
Oh, shit. Nice. When you. Oh, when? When you when you perform with her.

00:03:51:03 - 00:03:56:01
Speaker 2
Me? Him. Natalie. We're all in the New York scene in Manhattan. Oh, my God, I'm in Brooklyn.

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Speaker 3
I'm, I'm going to work with her on the 29th of May, and then I'm. I may or may not. I'm going to see if she needs if she if she wants to travel with somebody a little bit, in which case I might go with her. But I'm for sure with her on the 29th. Nice. And then I'm with Drago, that Romanian comedian.

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Speaker 3


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Speaker 1
Okay.

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Speaker 3
On the first week of June, I like Wyatt. I have a few days of break before my next, which I'm so happy about because like it's been great traveling, but also we've been getting up at like fuck off o'clock like super early in the morning, like 6 a.m. trains.

00:04:23:08 - 00:04:24:06
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:04:24:09 - 00:04:25:14
Speaker 3
But yeah.

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Speaker 1
Honestly, would you guys been taking mostly trains or busses? Both.

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Speaker 2
Mostly train trains.

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Speaker 3
And one really crazy bus.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Yesterday the bus one. No joke. You're supposed to arrive here. That's why I didn't do it yesterday. Because we were supposed to arrive at, like, 240. And we ended up, I think, getting there at like 430 or something. Oh, my God, you're stuck in traffic, like nine kilometers from the city center.

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Speaker 1
First of all, check you out using kilometers.

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Speaker 2
How long you been here for? You just man, I mean, yeah, I can just do math in my head. Oh, okay.

00:04:55:13 - 00:04:58:11
Speaker 1
I didn't assume that early in the podcast. I want to at least you just.

00:04:58:14 - 00:05:11:20
Speaker 2
So you just multiply by 1.6. That's. Oh, bro. What the. That's what I'm not like what you're doing. You could have told me in Katy I'm like, okay, so divided by 2.21 and then that's why you get the value.

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Speaker 1
No, but the wages rolled off, you did it roll off the tongue just the way you said it. You think, oh yeah, it's about like nine km. I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa. How are you able to also distance that?

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Speaker 2
Also because one trick they have is you can use the Fibonacci sequence to estimate kilometers, miles to kilometers, like, you know, the Fibonacci sequence. The golden ratio goes zero, one, one, two, three, five. So basically if it's three miles, it's about five kilometers. If it's five miles, it's about eight kilometers. If it's eight miles, it's about 13km. Look at this guy, bro.

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Speaker 2
He can do that.

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Speaker 3
He just knows shit. I know a couple of numbers. I know 3.14159 of pi. That's all I know.

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Speaker 2
That's all I got. That's what I'm saying though. Like, if you're Indian and you can't do math like no one respects you like, I mean, just like, literally like you, you should just die with such a fucking loser. You can't do that in your head.

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Speaker 1
So. Okay, so you got to break that down to us. I mean, because we have we only have stereotypes to go off on. Yeah. Okay. So there's a it's a cultural thing.

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Speaker 2
It's a cultural thing about intelligence where it's like, yeah, if you if you are dumb, you should know one respect. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
But you can be smarter not know math. Don't you know.

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Speaker 2
That's not how it works. Well yeah. It's not. No no I agree. Yeah that we all have our strengths and weaknesses. But there's a baseline level of intelligence. You know, where it's like if you can't calculate a 20% tip come on bro. Well where do you see the gospel I think it's like move the decimal multiplied by ten.

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Speaker 2
I used to work down a little bit okay. All right. It sounds like it takes us some time.

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Speaker 3
I used to work with this, this team. I was a bartender in college, and there was this one girl who could not do basic subtraction and addition. So every every, exchange of cash. I had to help her with her math. That was hard. That was hard to watch. Not going to like because she would panic. She would panic, bro.

00:06:54:27 - 00:06:55:24
Speaker 3
Because she couldn't do the numbers.

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Speaker 2
I just think you're dumb if you can't do math. But at least for us, most of us learn to do math because others will think you're dumb.

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Speaker 3
Us meaning Indians.

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Speaker 2
Yeah. Shit. That's right. Don't like others will think you're dumb.

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Speaker 1
Do you guys have, like, passive tests or something that I do you guys like, I don't know.

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Speaker 2
Oh, no, for sure. Like, if I'm with my family. Yeah. And like, someone's like, okay, what's, five times seven? Like, if you say 35 last, you're a fucking idiot. Like, oh that's awesome. It's instantly like, okay, well, I got to be first right now, you know?

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Speaker 1
Wow. So is even that competitive even about simple shit like that.

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Speaker 2
Especially sibling wise? You know, sibling wise, we're all like, showing our parents, you know, like just, you know, I'm the fastest.

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Speaker 1
So instead of punching each other, you guys just punch you. So yeah, they're like numbers and shit. Just be like, yeah.

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Speaker 2
All kinds of all kinds of shit. Yeah.

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Speaker 3
I'm trying to think what we have in France as an equivalent. I think it's like, if you can't tell the difference between wins and your lame, like, yeah, yeah, I'm.

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Speaker 2
An idiot, then I'm like, this one's right, I think. Yeah. There you go. This was saying that it's red.

00:07:49:05 - 00:07:50:28
Speaker 3
That's angry. Yeah, bro, you fucked.

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Speaker 2
Up like, Yeah. All of our.

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Speaker 1
Friends. Are you.

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Speaker 2
From.

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Speaker 3
So my my mom, most of my French family are in the South. I'm actually southern on both sides. So my French sides from the south, my American sides from the south. Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Oh, so you guys double.

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Speaker 3
So yeah, it's crazy, but we have all our teeth and our eyes are looking in the same direction. So that's one man.

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Speaker 1
You won the jackpot.

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Speaker 2
Yeah I know it's crazy.

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Speaker 3
It's crazy, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1
So how does that even work? I mean, I feel like Southern America and anything else in Europe just doesn't mix, like, nicely. It just kind of like this. Yeah. All assumptions that could be right could be wrong.

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Speaker 2
I don't know.

00:08:27:09 - 00:08:35:00
Speaker 3
My parents met at a winemaking convention, dude. So like, they they were like, we have something in common winemaking convention. Where in Williamsburg, Virginia.

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Speaker 1
In in in and.

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Speaker 3
I know it doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 2
Multiple layers. I mean, it was your way. What was your mother doing there.

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Speaker 3
Yeah, she was, she was, there. Yeah. Yeah, she was she was there selling wine. And your dad and my dad was a wine enjoyer. Oh, yeah.

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Speaker 2
Crazy like.

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Speaker 1
That. Wine. Somalia and wine.

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Speaker 2
Enjoyer.

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Speaker 3
But the crazy thing is, like. I mean, we've been touring, right? And every place, why? It was why it was trying to drink something that came from the area when he went on stage. But at some point he just switched to negronis, like, just negronis. At one point he was like, yo, let me drink something that's local in Dublin.

00:09:07:02 - 00:09:13:23
Speaker 3
He's like, let me get a Guinness, you know? And then we were in Rotterdam. He's like, what do I get? And then it was just like, yeah, Negroni.

00:09:13:27 - 00:09:14:13
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:09:14:13 - 00:09:17:25
Speaker 3
And now it's been negronis for the whole tour. Like I nearly been converted.

00:09:17:25 - 00:09:18:09
Speaker 2
Damn.

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Speaker 3
Yeah. Last night though, I had one of those. Those,

00:09:22:01 - 00:09:24:26
Speaker 2
You twice. Twice it, what do you do on sets?

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Speaker 1
No, I'm doing a long, so I'm nervous about that. But if I'm doing, like, a short whatever set, sometimes. Sometimes I don't.

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Speaker 2
Drink during a short set because I'm like, how? You know, you don't get to polish.

00:09:34:12 - 00:09:35:29
Speaker 3
Yeah. True, true, true. But, yeah.

00:09:36:01 - 00:09:51:14
Speaker 1
You you drink when you. I mean, I feel like only few people can do that. Or maybe it just changes the set depending on what you drink. Like if you drink, like, if you drinking a Negroni or some shit, cool. Maybe. But if you drink, like, I don't know, like, bro, if I drink like, Henny aside there, if I drink like, something like some dark liquor.

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Speaker 2
Yeah, bro.

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Speaker 1
Yeah, I'm talk, I'm talking and move and different depending on the drink. I have. I'm moving different.

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Speaker 2
You're on the pro I like that like you kind of get looser over time. Not that like I don't really feel it on stage. It's just. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:10:06:00 - 00:10:07:14
Speaker 1
All those negronis, I mean. Sure, bro.

00:10:07:16 - 00:10:09:06
Speaker 2
Yeah, it's pretty strong. It's for me.

00:10:09:06 - 00:10:26:28
Speaker 3
On to this though, because honestly, I'm not even going to lie to you. I notice a difference when I have a drink on stage. It's kind of maybe it's not really a crutch. It's just it's nice, like, if I'm first of all, I get thirsty when I talk. Second of all, it's like you could just kind of take a moment and drink, and then the silence isn't necessarily tense, like, because they're they're allowing you to drink.

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Speaker 3
I see a lot of comedians doing that. Like, for sure. Like a classic example right now would be Matt Rice. Like he straight up chugs water between like but he, he's like constantly running around. But yeah but I never did that.

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Speaker 2
For I you know you never used to do it. I mean you knew me when I was a child, so like I definitely never did then, but, once people start coming for me and then I saw that they were drinking. I was like, all of them are like, can I buy you a drink after. So I just feel like if I drink something on stage, like they feel like we're both kind of there together, you know, it doesn't feel so much as like they're watching a show.

00:11:01:03 - 00:11:04:20
Speaker 2
Like it feels more like they're there with me. I'm drinking. You know.

00:11:04:27 - 00:11:15:03
Speaker 1
You bring up a good point, though, because like now with your shows, as people that are out there for you, like you got a big following, things like that. So you have like maybe more of a, I guess, comfortability because you know, they're there with you, you, they, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 2
And the problem with social media too is like as soon as I write a joke and it's decent, I put it out. So a lot of the time they've heard if they really watch all my shit, there's always somebody who's like, I know. And you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, you do that? Yeah.

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Speaker 1
Hold on. Wait, bro. All right, so maybe I don't know how you feel about this, but like, oh, so you be putting out things that are like, it gets to the point where it's decent. You put it out on social media.

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Speaker 2
There's some one I wrote yesterday, I filmed it yesterday. I'm probably gonna put out tomorrow.

00:11:37:28 - 00:11:42:17
Speaker 1
Okay. So this is a good conversation right here. How the fuck do you feel comfortable about putting things?

00:11:42:17 - 00:11:44:04
Speaker 2
I see this is old school thinking. I mean.

00:11:44:10 - 00:11:46:05
Speaker 1
Oh my God, yeah, please break my mind.

00:11:46:06 - 00:12:00:10
Speaker 2
You don't know how many comics I've told this. That's such old school thinking where you're like, I have to perfect this material. I know that's what we grew up with and we love that, but that's just not the meta game anymore. You know, the meta game is I have to put out material that is good quality as fast as possible.

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Speaker 2
I mean, you see what Josh Johnson's doing, right? Yeah. Because that's how you compete in the marketplace against all these other creators, right? If you have high quality comedy and someone else's high quality comedy, the one who has more is going to win, right? Yeah. And I put out every day. I put out jokes every single day. So, you know.

00:12:15:19 - 00:12:24:02
Speaker 1
But I mean, like, just mentally though, like, do you ever have the feeling of, like, I like because even that of somebody knowing your job before they come to see you.

00:12:24:02 - 00:12:24:23
Speaker 2
So we've been.

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Speaker 1
Getting nervous about that. Like it.

00:12:26:10 - 00:12:30:01
Speaker 2
Kind of. Yeah. We've been having some of my favorite.

00:12:30:04 - 00:12:31:15
Speaker 3
I mean, we've talked about this last.

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Speaker 2
That's why I like being loose on stage because the way I it's not like my act. I don't like do all my jokes in a specific order. I kind of just go wherever the audience takes me. And then I usually hit all the jokes, but also I'll find new jokes on stage because of that. And so I feel like that's what they come for.

00:12:49:16 - 00:13:04:00
Speaker 2
I know for me, like if I was when I was young, if I were to watch my favorite comedian, I would have love to see how they come up with a joke, you know? And so that's why I'd love to see the riffing, I guess. But for me, the them hearing a joke, that's just unavoidable. I just don't know how you can avoid that.

00:13:04:00 - 00:13:25:20
Speaker 3
But what I like about him doing this, though, is that you can clearly see it's the same thing with Andy Huggins. When he was touring. I asked him, are you do you feel okay with all of your jokes being posted online? And he's like, the way that I see it, people need to know my sense of humor, and if they like me enough when they come to see me, they'll be they'll be so happy to see what the joke is like live that they won't even care that they've seen it before.

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Speaker 1
Okay. Yeah, I you on that. Like this. Been some comedians. I've seen a joke online and then like I seen him perform it and I know them from that joke. And it's just as funny. Yeah, as I seen it. Like, online as I did, as I did see you on stage. So like, I, I guess I guess that's your point, but like, I, I mean, do you have a feeling though, like a feeling of like, damn y'all want, have they heard this like.

00:13:44:23 - 00:13:47:19
Speaker 1
Is that feeling still there. Does it go away or.

00:13:47:22 - 00:13:55:24
Speaker 2
Sometimes I mean sometimes it's good. Like I was in London and you know I was telling a one liner and I saw someone like hit his girlfriend, like, listen to this one. So that one is cool.

00:13:55:24 - 00:13:56:05
Speaker 1
Oh, shit.

00:13:56:06 - 00:14:14:08
Speaker 2
And sometimes, like, they yell out the punchline. That's not what. That's crazy. Yeah. But, I mean, it's not too bad. You know who feels the opposite? A friend of ours. Alvin. Oh, I've talked to Alvin. It, you know Alvin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Alvin, you know, it's funny. I want to tell him because he never comes out here.

00:14:14:09 - 00:14:27:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, but yesterday, some guy. I mean, if you're not that. But, I mean, you're listeners. I'll tell him in person, but there was some Asian guy on the show. I'm like, how'd you find out about the show? And he's like, oh, I, I'm a huge fan of Alvin. And you did a podcast with Alvin. That's how I found you.

00:14:27:20 - 00:14:42:07
Speaker 2
Oh, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to tell Alvin, you should come out here. People know I'm man. You know, I fucking oh, it's sick, but Alvin feels opposite. Alvin feels like all his material is private, so he'll put off the old stuff. But, you know, that's not how I feel, at least.

00:14:42:09 - 00:14:49:12
Speaker 3
Yeah. I mean, I got I got to a point where. Yeah, when I, I've, I've, I've only been doing comedy for two and a half years now.

00:14:49:13 - 00:14:50:00
Speaker 2
Oh shit.

00:14:50:00 - 00:14:51:23
Speaker 3
And everybody's been telling me you.

00:14:51:23 - 00:15:00:09
Speaker 2
Should not stop telling people that also. Why? Because comics just just don't respect you. If you say that. Don't really. Well, don't know. I'm being serious. I'm being serious. I know that.

00:15:00:16 - 00:15:01:20
Speaker 3
Then. Okay. I mean.

00:15:01:25 - 00:15:04:04
Speaker 2
You can post it, but just go. Don't go say.

00:15:04:06 - 00:15:05:22
Speaker 3
That. Why? People ask.

00:15:05:22 - 00:15:09:16
Speaker 2
You know when you know, when a comic asks you, so how long you been doing it? That's what I'm trying to, like, measure you.

00:15:09:16 - 00:15:12:03
Speaker 1
You know what? No, no. Okay. Oh, okay. Here's something, right?

00:15:12:05 - 00:15:16:23
Speaker 3
No. Because we see a guy doing it like we're really long who hasn't really improved makes.

00:15:16:25 - 00:15:20:04
Speaker 2
But he's thinking like, okay, I've been doing it 13 years. How long are these like, okay.

00:15:20:07 - 00:15:28:15
Speaker 1
Like a year. Being here a year and a half. Europe is different, bro. Like for her to say that, it's like it's almost like a because not too many people have done it long enough to even have that disparity.

00:15:28:17 - 00:15:29:17
Speaker 2
That's so true. Yeah.

00:15:29:18 - 00:15:31:22
Speaker 3
So it's it's a small scene and people don't.

00:15:31:22 - 00:15:34:07
Speaker 1
Have years for her. I mean, look what you've been doing two and a half years.

00:15:34:07 - 00:15:35:22
Speaker 2
I know it's impressive. It's very impressive.

00:15:35:22 - 00:15:47:07
Speaker 1
Two and a half years. Like the thing you're doing right now, I would I would have thought had I'll have to been in the comic for at least 15, 20 years and then maybe get fair to even think about that, think about even doing what you're doing.

00:15:47:07 - 00:15:49:13
Speaker 2
She's on bigger crowds than I've ever done in my life. Wow.

00:15:49:13 - 00:15:58:10
Speaker 1
That's is crazy. Like I don't know if you know me. Probably people told you already, but like, the amount of people that you able to perform in front of is like shit that you would never even imagine.

00:15:58:14 - 00:15:58:25
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:15:58:25 - 00:16:00:27
Speaker 2
It's crazy. Yeah, it's wild.

00:16:01:02 - 00:16:17:20
Speaker 3
It is wild. But sometimes I see, like, people like Trevor Wallace or like, yeah, like just fill out a huge stadium. I just like, at some point I feel like you lose the connection with the audience because they're so far away from you. I just, I feel like there's a nice there's a nice, sweet spot with a room is like three, 200, 300 people.

00:16:17:21 - 00:16:21:00
Speaker 2
Yeah. I mean, you try to maximize that dollars. True. You true, I maximize and all.

00:16:21:01 - 00:16:30:26
Speaker 3
But do you do it for the. I guess you could do a huge room every once in a while for the dollars, but then for the connection and the love of the art, I feel like I just love a smaller room. But yeah, so I won't tell people how many years I've been doing this.

00:16:30:26 - 00:16:40:02
Speaker 2
People who? Those people who tape specials in their arena. It's like, are you crazy, dude? Are you crazy for real? You know, like what? I don't know. I just like, like, it's so weird.

00:16:40:02 - 00:16:42:24
Speaker 3
It's so important to have that connection. But anyway, basically. Okay, I'm.

00:16:42:24 - 00:16:44:11
Speaker 2
Not going to. Okay. When you're in the U.S, don't do that.

00:16:44:14 - 00:16:48:20
Speaker 3
Don't tell people, okay. That's so crazy. Nobody ever told me that. There's so much that people do.

00:16:48:21 - 00:17:03:27
Speaker 2
Well, I guess maybe it's different because like, we were okay, this is even me. This is the New York City, I mean, where I'm just the comedy. But you say it's been a while. It's just been, you know, how like, racism is just deep in you. Yeah, it's like that when comedy where we were in, in Prague and all the comics, like.

00:17:03:27 - 00:17:18:07
Speaker 2
Yeah. Been doing a year and a half. I'm gonna do two years. I was like, I respect none of you right now, dude. I was already like, I know you're all like, no. And that's so city. I know that's so bad. And so I try hard not to be like that, but that's my instinct. The instinct is to be like, who are these?

00:17:18:07 - 00:17:19:18
Speaker 2
Open mike ers? Like?

00:17:19:20 - 00:17:35:27
Speaker 3
So it's so crazy because I keep telling people about this. Now that you've been in Berlin for a while, maybe you understand this, but I've been trying to explain to people the the tradition of stand up comedy in English is a baby in Europe. Yeah, compared to what it's been. Because, you know, when, like, the greats, like, you know, you got Richard Pryor, George Carlin, that goes way back.

00:17:35:27 - 00:17:53:15
Speaker 3
Like we we're talking like you had stand up comedy, like straight after World War Two. Moving on after that. Like it was it was starting to get increasingly popular in the States here. English comedy, like in Belgium, where I live, French and Flemish comedy, that the scene is booming. French and the French and Flemish like, you can actually make a living off that.

00:17:53:22 - 00:18:10:07
Speaker 3
But English comedy has only been around since like 2012, 2014, in Belgium. So if you look at it like that, the scene has only been really happening for that long in English, then you can't really be super experienced unless you were like there at the beginning or yeah, or there a couple of years ago before Covid, you know.

00:18:10:07 - 00:18:12:15
Speaker 2
But I mean, you must be farther in than most of these people then.

00:18:12:15 - 00:18:17:15
Speaker 1
Yeah, definitely. I mean, and that's even kind of crazy being that position, because in New York City you always a baby. There's so much.

00:18:17:15 - 00:18:20:00
Speaker 2
Oh yeah. Yeah, yeah.

00:18:20:02 - 00:18:22:11
Speaker 1
So you know, even dare think you.

00:18:22:13 - 00:18:26:12
Speaker 2
Never I've never once have I thought of myself as a that I never ever you.

00:18:26:14 - 00:18:40:03
Speaker 1
Never. The only time you think about it is that when you made it this far, or you done it so much time, and then you realize I'm not where I'm supposed to be. That's where you're like, oh, shit. How long the fuck I've been doing this for? So my ass, you you've I've been doing it for way too long, and I'm nowhere.

00:18:40:11 - 00:18:40:19
Speaker 2
I mean.

00:18:40:20 - 00:18:41:18
Speaker 3
That sucks that a.

00:18:41:21 - 00:18:42:27
Speaker 2
Some of those people. Yeah.

00:18:43:00 - 00:18:57:27
Speaker 3
You know what I think I'll. I'll be a vet when I reach a point like Susan Rice or Andy Huggins where I'm up there like. And I'm, I would rather be sitting in a chair knitting, but I'm up there telling jokes. And at some I think at that point you could say that you're a.

00:18:57:27 - 00:18:58:27
Speaker 2
Vet, but like.

00:18:58:27 - 00:19:13:29
Speaker 1
Even the way you're talking right now, right. Which is not bad. It's just it's just so different. Right. Is that for you to have that nuance thing of saying, I would rather perform in a smaller crowd so I can connect with the people more like that's somebody who's performing in front of a lot of people. It's kind of like the thing where that makes a lot of money.

00:19:13:29 - 00:19:16:07
Speaker 1
Before I say, money's not everything, you know?

00:19:16:08 - 00:19:18:04
Speaker 2
Yeah, money is just about.

00:19:18:06 - 00:19:22:24
Speaker 1
You know, it's about you living above you, being happy. It's like, no, give me the fucking money first.

00:19:22:26 - 00:19:44:16
Speaker 3
I want to make a living off of this stuff so bad. But I also am desperately. This is going to sound so corny, but this. I just love this performance art form. It's so cool. And I feel like you want to hold on to that. It's like you see people a classic example, you see Louis C.K. and Dave Chappelle walking into the world's tiniest little room after doing a big ass theater, and they do it for the love of the oh, yeah, yeah.

00:19:44:20 - 00:19:53:02
Speaker 3
And I, I can really respect that. But I mean, to be fair, I did crunch a lot of time when I started comedy. I was like borderline obsessive. I don't know if I think they all were. Yeah.

00:19:53:03 - 00:19:58:13
Speaker 2
I mean, that's the that's the way in New York, too. I mean, people don't respect you if you're not doing like 3 or 4 mikes a night or whatever.

00:19:58:13 - 00:20:04:18
Speaker 3
We don't see that's that's crazy to me because, I mean, I don't know what it's like in Berlin, but in Brussels you get like, barely one mike a night.

00:20:04:21 - 00:20:12:23
Speaker 2
Wow. That's why your ass like. Oh, yeah. Yeah, but no, but it's actually, that's why I like European. We just can't measure up, you know?

00:20:12:23 - 00:20:15:25
Speaker 3
But we deserve. We deserve in Brussels like there's so many in.

00:20:15:27 - 00:20:17:07
Speaker 2
But there are, there are. But.

00:20:17:07 - 00:20:18:22
Speaker 3
Yeah, but in Brussels there's so many. Cool.

00:20:18:22 - 00:20:27:24
Speaker 2
But not the volume. Yeah. This is about New York. There's so many like you got to open mics there like, dude, these guys are like, if these were in smaller scenes, these guys would be so good. Yeah. You know, I mean.

00:20:27:24 - 00:20:36:11
Speaker 1
What has been happening though, bro? Unfortunately, the New York comedy thing has now died down because it's some newer comedians have came over here and bombed like aggressively.

00:20:36:11 - 00:20:45:01
Speaker 2
Really. Yeah. Yeah, I actually I think three years ago when I came, my act was to like American. But now I think it's like it's just jokes. So it works well, right?

00:20:45:05 - 00:20:56:23
Speaker 1
It's like the bomb is like, you know, everyone bombs, right? I mean, a new place. Oh, of course it's just aggressive because we have the confidence of, like, I've come from New York City. Yeah. For someone to do it. So you, you come with confidence and you bomb, and you still can't make you.

00:20:56:23 - 00:20:57:28
Speaker 3
Like that's so funny.

00:20:58:01 - 00:21:03:13
Speaker 1
Damn. You read the room. Yo. No one knows about housewives. No one knows about, you know, Poland Spring.

00:21:03:13 - 00:21:05:00
Speaker 2
I know, you know.

00:21:05:02 - 00:21:10:19
Speaker 1
Every every water source is Poland Spring. No one knows about. Yes. Like, relax. You know.

00:21:10:21 - 00:21:34:17
Speaker 3
That's crazy. Actually, that's a really good point, though. If you come here as an American comedian and you're loud and you're overconfident, the Europeans will immediately they'll immediately be like, this guy is such a dick. And I mean, and it's also for me as an American, cause I am half French. I'm always hyper aware of my American attitude on stage and how to balance, how to how to make fun of yourself enough and be self-aware enough to show them that you're that you're not just a walking stereotype.

00:21:34:17 - 00:21:37:15
Speaker 1
Yeah, you got on itself too. So Southern American, that's like.

00:21:37:15 - 00:21:38:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, over.

00:21:38:03 - 00:21:38:23
Speaker 1
The top.

00:21:38:23 - 00:21:39:16
Speaker 2
It's like, yeah.

00:21:39:16 - 00:21:43:06
Speaker 1
I don't even know how they even exist within your household. Like, you know, it's fun.

00:21:43:10 - 00:21:44:05
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:21:44:07 - 00:21:53:17
Speaker 1
Because southern, the southern America, like the south of the United States of America. And the confidence there is like, even more egregious than, like the East Coast is like.

00:21:53:20 - 00:21:54:02
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

00:21:54:06 - 00:21:55:14
Speaker 3
Oh for sure.

00:21:55:15 - 00:21:55:24
Speaker 2
What?

00:21:55:28 - 00:21:57:10
Speaker 1
Just just some shit.

00:21:57:10 - 00:21:58:24
Speaker 2
There was confidence and.

00:21:58:24 - 00:21:59:24
Speaker 1
Confidence and.

00:21:59:27 - 00:22:00:11
Speaker 2
What do you mean.

00:22:00:14 - 00:22:08:03
Speaker 3
There you go. So I mean, I feel like I feel like the, the attitude when you come from the South is you're so sure of your identity as a Southerner that gets.

00:22:08:03 - 00:22:21:17
Speaker 1
Anybody know that's a question like, what are you talking about? You know, I mean, it would be that it would be ignorance covered in something biblical about Jesus and God somewhere in the mix at some point. I mean, like, you know, you could, you know, God, you know, brought all this bread for us. So.

00:22:21:19 - 00:22:37:09
Speaker 3
Yeah, like, oh my God, I have a family like that. Not even gonna joke, but I will say this about about the about the Brussels scene. There's so many great comedians there who are English speaking, and I always feel so bad that we don't have a dedicated comedy club in English that that is really a comedy club with like, you.

00:22:37:09 - 00:22:39:09
Speaker 2
Know, it's coming. It's probably 5 or 10 years away.

00:22:39:10 - 00:22:57:07
Speaker 3
I really hope, because I just now that I've experienced like so many different rooms, I've been lucky enough to like, tour with people like you and really and see a lot and learn a lot. And I really feel like people in my home scene deserve the chance to to grow in that kind of environment and be challenged, like you guys have been in New York.

00:22:57:08 - 00:23:11:16
Speaker 2
Like I say, I think you are. I mean, the way that you're doing it is probably the fastest way to get good, you know? Yeah, because you're doing it like with someone like Andy, who's been doing comedy a long time, and you're doing all these different audiences, all these different places, like, I feel like that's the fastest way to get good.

00:23:11:23 - 00:23:21:19
Speaker 3
Yeah, I mean, I do, I the thing is, because it's not like New York, I have to travel, I need to travel and go with people to get to, to, to get there.

00:23:21:21 - 00:23:24:25
Speaker 2
You don't want to like, you don't want to be there in New York, like doing the like.

00:23:24:25 - 00:23:26:07
Speaker 3
It scares me. From what you guys.

00:23:26:07 - 00:23:27:09
Speaker 2
Have said, it's not finally.

00:23:27:09 - 00:23:27:23
Speaker 3
Scares.

00:23:27:23 - 00:23:29:07
Speaker 2
Me like negative money.

00:23:29:09 - 00:23:30:08
Speaker 3
It scares me that it gets.

00:23:30:08 - 00:23:38:20
Speaker 2
Everyone that like, well, that's what we were talking about though, where I was like, I feel like you need to learn the art of stand up in an audience that that hates you. Yeah. You know?

00:23:38:25 - 00:23:39:05
Speaker 1
Yeah.

00:23:39:08 - 00:23:41:05
Speaker 2
Growing up in an audience that likes you, that's easy.

00:23:41:05 - 00:23:58:23
Speaker 1
Yeah, but it's a bro. It's like it's so tough because, like, when we when we were doing in New York City, we didn't know this life existed. We didn't know that, like, people come to Mike's like that, that it was crazy. It was a point that if I have a regular person came to a mike who the next five comedians would be asking a person, why are you here?

00:23:58:25 - 00:24:07:00
Speaker 1
Yeah, like you'll be to a point where like, whoa, okay, there's one audience member. Well, we gotta do a top eight stuff. Now, this is the one chance in a lifetime, especially two years.

00:24:07:00 - 00:24:08:10
Speaker 2
It. Yeah, he is in.

00:24:08:10 - 00:24:11:26
Speaker 1
You know, even thinking about real people, you think two years.

00:24:11:26 - 00:24:19:07
Speaker 2
In, it's there's in New York, there's no chance you get like a paid spot. Like, oh, almost no chance. No chance. Okay.

00:24:19:09 - 00:24:21:07
Speaker 1
That's that's you still paying for Mike's? Yeah.

00:24:21:07 - 00:24:22:28
Speaker 2
You pay Mike. You got to pay for Mike's for sure.

00:24:22:28 - 00:24:24:16
Speaker 1
Yeah, $20 minimum.

00:24:24:19 - 00:24:29:19
Speaker 2
Yeah. That's so crazy. I mean, it's because it's so competitive. So many people want to be comedians, like. So.

00:24:29:20 - 00:24:48:27
Speaker 3
Yeah. Yeah, I could tell. I could see that. I could see how the, the competition could be both detrimental and a benefit to your progress. I mean, here I just feel like a little bit more professional in a few more professional environments that are English speaking, a place like the Metro Comedy Club in Prague, which was really nice, I feel would be a good thing to have in the Brussels comedy scene.

00:24:48:27 - 00:24:49:05
Speaker 3
Yeah, they.

00:24:49:05 - 00:24:50:03
Speaker 2
Have a nice community.

00:24:50:03 - 00:24:50:21
Speaker 3
There. Yeah.

00:24:50:24 - 00:25:12:28
Speaker 2
Ultimately that's how you build a scene. Yeah. You know. One thing I liked about New York that like you can even tell. Yeah. Well I feel like black people naturally have this, but you just have that like utmost confidence yourself that like the New York scene kind of teaches you, you know, where even if you're bombing, you just got to remain confident because if you don't, you have no chance of even coming back.

00:25:13:00 - 00:25:13:12
Speaker 2


00:25:13:13 - 00:25:19:16
Speaker 1
Yeah. Depending on the room you in. Yeah. Like if you do like you know so I get the most like most bar.

00:25:19:19 - 00:25:24:13
Speaker 2
Yes. Yeah. Oh yes. Yes of course. Kevin, I know what's his name. Kevin we can.

00:25:24:13 - 00:25:30:12
Speaker 1
Play Kevin Lee did it. And then, Dave Lester, he's a do it. I used to, I suppose, when I used to call. I used to co-host that room.

00:25:30:14 - 00:25:32:05
Speaker 2
Wow.

00:25:32:07 - 00:25:32:28
Speaker 3
So tough room.

00:25:32:29 - 00:25:34:15
Speaker 2
It's on Mondays, mo. Mondays?

00:25:34:15 - 00:25:36:29
Speaker 1
Yeah. More Monday than they used to have one on Sunday. Oh.

00:25:36:29 - 00:25:37:11
Speaker 2
It's easy.

00:25:37:11 - 00:25:38:24
Speaker 3
So what was going on in that room?

00:25:38:24 - 00:25:41:03
Speaker 1
No. The Sunday. Well, maybe it's difficult.

00:25:41:06 - 00:25:49:11
Speaker 2
I don't know, I just go up. No, the thing is I would go up there with one liners and just like my black versus any material and it worked. But all the other material. No, they're not about it.

00:25:49:11 - 00:26:08:19
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's another thing. Is that the race material here anything because in the States we're hyper focused on the differences between people and I think and stereotypes. The more vulgar, the more stereotypical the better. Here people like, they like smart, like they like political stuff, but they like nuance and they like smart and witty and unexpected.

00:26:08:22 - 00:26:24:03
Speaker 1
Why is that? They had like, fucking like, you know, empires here. They're like, yeah, hundreds and thousands like, you know, white people be before other white people, Ottoman Empire, all this shit that is so much some of I'll be here people jokes. I'm like, y'all need a history book that's so smart. The fourth, I'll be sitting there blank, just like.

00:26:24:05 - 00:26:26:15
Speaker 1
Oh, I'm you going to Wikipedia. I need like a joke.

00:26:26:21 - 00:26:52:10
Speaker 3
To give a good example. If you, if you go on stage in Europe with a joke about Napoleon Bonaparte and it's really well told, like, and you know, like the, the, the details of the history, like they, you earn points with the European audience for sure. And they like seeing an American on stage because to be honest, the, the, the swag factor of an American who is also very confident and also has really good jokes is always something that a European audience will enjoy.

00:26:52:12 - 00:27:02:06
Speaker 2
Oh, that's something I definitely have to learn from. Like black comedians. No joke, no joke. Because like, you don't see most Indian people being like real overconfident. That's so true. You know what I mean? You don't.

00:27:02:06 - 00:27:03:04
Speaker 3
That is true.

00:27:03:05 - 00:27:10:10
Speaker 2
I think about the indications we have. They're all very humble and not I not. They try not to be humble, but like, you know, on stage, I'm gonna be like that.

00:27:10:10 - 00:27:10:14
Speaker 3
Yeah.

00:27:10:14 - 00:27:24:10
Speaker 2
It's like I kind of had to take that. I kind of want to break that stereotype. So I definitely have to learn from people, like, because I'd be like 17. I'd say like, yeah, at the fucking mic. And then this dude is just commanding the room and I'm like, how do I do that? Dude, this is so difficult.

00:27:24:15 - 00:27:27:27
Speaker 1
Get into Grizzly Bear. Yeah. Yes, I'll come in commanding.

00:27:27:27 - 00:27:29:10
Speaker 2
Alligator Lounge or whatever, you know.

00:27:29:14 - 00:27:32:13
Speaker 1
Alligator lounge. Yeah. With the little ski bar next to the.

00:27:32:14 - 00:27:33:17
Speaker 2
I don't even remember, man.

00:27:33:17 - 00:27:38:29
Speaker 1
Oh, man. It gave you, you know, you get a pizza which, the money you spend, you know, you guys spend extra dollar for the pizza.

00:27:39:00 - 00:27:41:13
Speaker 2
That's so good. I like that so much.

00:27:41:16 - 00:27:42:07
Speaker 1
What's been the mix?

00:27:42:08 - 00:27:45:22
Speaker 3
What's been your favorite place to perform at in Europe now that you've been here for a while?

00:27:45:22 - 00:27:53:25
Speaker 1
Dude, I ain't going to lie. I mean, Berlin, just because the amount of time you able to do, you can do like 2 or 3 shows, like shows like a the day Show.

00:27:53:26 - 00:27:57:01
Speaker 2
Yeah, you can do that. But you get paid for spots here, like for a ten minute spot.

00:27:57:01 - 00:28:12:19
Speaker 1
At a club, say. And this is funny. So like sometimes, you know, you do a show you might get like 15 like or whatever or whatever depending. But there's like a thing between mikes and shows technically. So like for me, I see it all as a show because again, the amount of people sometimes we are making is like 80 people.

00:28:12:19 - 00:28:14:02
Speaker 1
Yeah. You know, I mean, so yeah.

00:28:14:03 - 00:28:19:18
Speaker 2
Oh, that's like cosmic. And he's like, this is the mic. I'm like, this is packed, bro. These people paid to be here. Yeah.

00:28:19:18 - 00:28:34:08
Speaker 1
So that's a thing in this scene that you know, is being worked on the show. So like what's paid and what's a mic what's a show and things. But in terms of you doing your own show, you can do that easy, you know. So yeah. Yeah. You want to like, there's venues here where like, literally they'll look at you.

00:28:34:14 - 00:28:53:22
Speaker 1
Oh. You're community. Yeah, I'm a comedian. You want to do a show here? I'm doing all right. Yeah, but when you want to do it, I'm like, I don't know when you want to do it. Tomorrow you might not. You like? Sometimes the bar is here because I guess the sound regulation here is better to have like an open a mic or a show or something than a, than a, a musical performance, because, you know, the bass and everything rattles the wall.

00:28:53:27 - 00:28:54:29
Speaker 1
You got it all.

00:28:55:02 - 00:29:01:14
Speaker 3
Well, they've had raves here. They've been, they've been, they've been used to raves and loud music. They probably want a change, you know.

00:29:01:17 - 00:29:03:27
Speaker 1
Right. And if people complain when is. Yeah.

00:29:03:29 - 00:29:04:06
Speaker 2
But.

00:29:04:06 - 00:29:22:10
Speaker 3
Also you know, what I also find interesting is that you went from New York, which is arguably a tough crowd, and then you come to Berlin, which they have so much tension about their history. Yeah. And you go from one place where people are kind of like standoffish to another place where they're like, you better not be making jokes about world War Two.

00:29:22:16 - 00:29:31:04
Speaker 3
And like, it's like instantly you walk into this new scene, like, how did you like how did you navigate? I mean, I feel like that that would be so crazy for me. Like after like I notice.

00:29:31:04 - 00:29:33:26
Speaker 2
That they feel like it's the big difference between the audiences.

00:29:33:29 - 00:29:38:20
Speaker 1
Definitely the repressive like not the repressive but like the repressed like type of like emotions.

00:29:38:20 - 00:29:39:02
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:29:39:04 - 00:29:52:03
Speaker 1
And things. Right. So like it'd be certain I would say people here get triggered by different things. Right. Like for example, I sometimes I do a joke about like, I don't know, hitting a bee or something. And bees out here are serious, bro. I'm talking about like, you could.

00:29:52:03 - 00:29:53:12
Speaker 2
Say the insect, bro.

00:29:53:12 - 00:29:56:04
Speaker 1
You could say the vulture is there. You can say like, hey, I went to like.

00:29:56:09 - 00:29:57:05
Speaker 2
Hitting a beach.

00:29:57:05 - 00:30:03:22
Speaker 1
Club. This not whatever. I slipped on a, you know, will you? You can say anything you want. The many. You talk about bees and.

00:30:03:24 - 00:30:05:15
Speaker 2
You watch bees.

00:30:05:16 - 00:30:09:19
Speaker 1
It's like clockwork. But I make jokes about it, bro. You say bee and you hate it.

00:30:09:20 - 00:30:10:16
Speaker 2
Why?

00:30:10:18 - 00:30:16:05
Speaker 1
They. But bees are. But you can go to. I think you get fined or go to jail or some shit for him to be like is is it?

00:30:16:08 - 00:30:19:22
Speaker 2
I mean, that's one thing, but like, the actual people are mad about it.

00:30:19:22 - 00:30:20:16
Speaker 1
I'm talking about.

00:30:20:20 - 00:30:22:12
Speaker 2
Oh my God, that's.

00:30:22:14 - 00:30:27:15
Speaker 1
You be talking about the bro. You can be talking about World War Two and they be on board with you. You talk about bees.

00:30:27:18 - 00:30:31:24
Speaker 2
Dude, I wish you told me this. I would have talks about bees. Oh, bro, it's so funny to.

00:30:31:24 - 00:30:34:19
Speaker 1
The point where you got to win them back from talking.

00:30:34:19 - 00:30:40:19
Speaker 2
About this. Like, oh, yeah, I killed a bee. Say sorry, I mean, a Jew. Yeah, she is I oh, okay. Thank God.

00:30:40:22 - 00:30:47:18
Speaker 1
Yeah. So you said that, but I got meet out to be like, oh my. Yeah, this is in Germany. I might have to mute B or something that, you know, I'm like.

00:30:47:20 - 00:30:52:07
Speaker 2
Oh, but like, are you fucking serious right now?

00:30:52:09 - 00:30:52:23
Speaker 3
Are you so.

00:30:52:23 - 00:31:02:19
Speaker 1
Serious? It is to the point where like because I'm Jesus B, right? I'm anything I say. B is a like anything with a flying thing that's a stinger is a B for me. For them is like no. Is it a honey bee?

00:31:02:19 - 00:31:04:12
Speaker 2
You know, what is it a wasp I.

00:31:04:15 - 00:31:05:23
Speaker 3
Get it, I think I get it.

00:31:05:24 - 00:31:08:05
Speaker 1
They really did it bro. That they get.

00:31:08:05 - 00:31:13:24
Speaker 3
Trigger because they're super eco like eco focused, aren't they in Berlin? Aren't they like super into, like recycling and shit?

00:31:13:24 - 00:31:14:17
Speaker 2
Like they are.

00:31:14:20 - 00:31:16:07
Speaker 3
In vintage clothes and stuff.

00:31:16:07 - 00:31:16:20
Speaker 2
Like that.

00:31:16:21 - 00:31:20:04
Speaker 1
They are. But like, I swear it's the the is the B.

00:31:20:04 - 00:31:25:09
Speaker 2
Thing is it's. Yeah. It's so ridiculous to get is, is you.

00:31:25:09 - 00:31:29:07
Speaker 1
Getting hit as a kid? I have the joke about me getting punched in the face early like bro.

00:31:29:10 - 00:31:30:06
Speaker 2
By your parents.

00:31:30:06 - 00:31:43:05
Speaker 1
No no no. Okay. Just like, you know, I was, you know, I was young, I was doing some stupid some. I just knocked me out, right? And. Oh, just even me tell that story. People freeze up like I'm talking about it. So I had it. Yeah. Remove that out from my set because I ain't how things would be going.

00:31:43:05 - 00:31:56:27
Speaker 1
Good. I will say that view. But why? Because it has some history again, historical thing. They have some history here about like a back and forth war, World War 1 or 2 or something that like used to be very abusive here in terms of the household. So like, you know, the kids used to get like hate and abuse.

00:31:56:28 - 00:32:12:17
Speaker 1
And then something happened after the war. So that make it very like, I guess, taboo for you to even put your hands on a kid. So I guess through the history now, people are very sensitive. Like if this they even you go to a doctor, you take a kid, a doctor to do certain checks to see, like, hey, have you been beaten at home?

00:32:12:17 - 00:32:30:03
Speaker 1
Oh, I see something happen and they ask you questions and you some did happen like there's a whole legal process or something there. So again, I had to learn this via me bombing when I say that and then like the audience member coming after and telling me the whole historical thing about hitting kids. So that's that's how.

00:32:30:03 - 00:32:32:11
Speaker 2
My hitting kids joke, I should I know. Yes, I know that.

00:32:32:11 - 00:32:48:25
Speaker 1
So that's why I have to deal with. I have to deal with historical repression, repressive stuff or whatever that like is affected my jokes. I'm like, I got to actually learn about history for I can't being a stupid American, I get, oh, fuck it. But I got like, oh, I got to learn about the history here about, you know, what's happened here.

00:32:48:25 - 00:32:56:05
Speaker 2
That's the that's the hard and fun part about traveling is you kind of got to learn a little bit about each city to, to do up there. You know.

00:32:56:06 - 00:32:57:06
Speaker 1
It makes it fun, but.

00:32:57:08 - 00:33:09:09
Speaker 2
It makes it fun. It makes and it's like, oh yeah, I got to read. Oh yeah. Read to do my set. So funny. I have to do it now. I got to do all I like to try and do it on stage. Yeah I like to be like, tell me something about this place, like, please, is that.

00:33:09:09 - 00:33:11:22
Speaker 1
Wikipedia or is it right on, on right.

00:33:11:29 - 00:33:18:19
Speaker 3
I found out a lot by like asking sometimes because I live in Europe, and sometimes I just like to pretend that I don't know the stereotypes about a city.

00:33:18:25 - 00:33:19:04
Speaker 2


00:33:19:09 - 00:33:26:11
Speaker 3
And because they hate hearing about it, like if you go to Antwerp and you talk about diamonds and cocaine, they're going to hate you.

00:33:26:14 - 00:33:26:26
Speaker 2
Why.

00:33:27:02 - 00:33:30:02
Speaker 3
Because they've heard it before. Yeah, 600 times before.

00:33:30:03 - 00:33:33:07
Speaker 1
Okay. So I don't get the cocaine part with the with Antwerp.

00:33:33:07 - 00:33:44:15
Speaker 3
It's just a stereotype, you know, like like here if you say, oh, everybody's going to a rave and like. And I don't know, like, I didn't know, like, to be honest with you, I didn't realize that everybody in Berlin wears black leather. Everything.

00:33:44:16 - 00:33:49:12
Speaker 1
Yeah, I know, so let me go back. So Antwerp is known for diamonds and cocaine.

00:33:49:17 - 00:33:50:25
Speaker 2
Yeah. Why?

00:33:50:27 - 00:34:04:28
Speaker 3
Well, Antwerp was a big trading center at one point, and they were known for, I mean, their diamond industry. And then cocaine is just apparently something they're like they're known for, for drug use, I guess. I don't know, but that's they're known for it. But it's a stereotype. You know.

00:34:04:28 - 00:34:08:06
Speaker 1
It's a stereotype that means there's a lot of cocaine that was out there for it to be a.

00:34:08:06 - 00:34:10:00
Speaker 2
Stereotype, although I guess I.

00:34:10:00 - 00:34:17:27
Speaker 3
Guess, and I at one time I asked if anybody in the audience was high and there was a good portion of people that were high. But when I asked what it was they were using, they said it was shrooms.

00:34:18:04 - 00:34:27:06
Speaker 1
It's it's shit like that. Imagine you had a joke. Yeah. You said about diamonds and cocaine to us. Is America supposed to know? Antwerp is stereotypically known for diamonds.

00:34:27:06 - 00:34:30:13
Speaker 2
And that's actually that's far, far more fair. Yeah.

00:34:30:17 - 00:34:37:04
Speaker 1
Anybody can walk up to you and tell you. So you'd be on stage doing your thing, and then you say, up, up, up about diamonds and people. He'd be like, yo, what the fuck?

00:34:37:04 - 00:34:41:05
Speaker 2
But then you feel it immediately. You're like, you're like, what the fuck? Like explain like now you.

00:34:41:05 - 00:34:51:06
Speaker 1
Won't even bro, because it would just happen suddenly again. It doesn't even have to be the punchline, the joke. It can just you be talking about. Yeah. So my mom got diamonds. You know how everyone's about. Yeah, right.

00:34:51:07 - 00:34:52:21
Speaker 2
And the girl's best friend.

00:34:52:21 - 00:34:53:23
Speaker 1
And people be like.

00:34:53:26 - 00:35:08:10
Speaker 3
Yeah. It's actually really funny, though, because if you go, it's the same thing. If you go to Luxembourg and you talk about how the taxes and the fact that they all have money, if you go to Switzerland, talk about how everyone is rich and how they're neutral and they've never been a part of any like they try to always see out of political conflict, like every stereotype is true.

00:35:08:10 - 00:35:11:11
Speaker 3
But at some point people are like, we've heard this so much. You got to get into.

00:35:11:11 - 00:35:12:08
Speaker 2
The yeah, it's kind of how.

00:35:12:09 - 00:35:13:09
Speaker 3
Come it is? It is.

00:35:13:09 - 00:35:14:05
Speaker 2
It's like you don't know, it's.

00:35:14:12 - 00:35:28:02
Speaker 3
It's like a TSA or it's like it's like a TSA joke or oh, dating is weird. Like that's the kind of like the equivalent, you know, like if you come to Berlin and I mean, I think, I think you handled it really well. You got to take the smart angle. That's another thing is like the.

00:35:28:05 - 00:35:31:22
Speaker 2
The general I think I just complained about it like I was like, I don't know this shit, guys.

00:35:31:22 - 00:35:35:02
Speaker 3
It was funny. But it's that's how you deal with it. Like also when you're in.

00:35:35:05 - 00:35:37:12
Speaker 2
That sense, if you're I didn't fucking like why we.

00:35:37:12 - 00:35:40:05
Speaker 3
Get a free pass as Americans, you can claim the ignorance.

00:35:40:05 - 00:35:44:07
Speaker 1
Card. Did you kind of help him out with, like, the like the awareness of it? I feel like somebody.

00:35:44:07 - 00:35:44:28
Speaker 2
It's probably true.

00:35:44:29 - 00:35:46:27
Speaker 3
He's smart. I didn't I didn't really need to help.

00:35:46:27 - 00:35:48:00
Speaker 2
Out, you know?

00:35:48:00 - 00:35:49:29
Speaker 1
Yeah. You talk about Fibonacci sequence math shit.

00:35:49:29 - 00:35:52:00
Speaker 2
I don't know much about history. For real, I don't know.

00:35:52:03 - 00:36:10:17
Speaker 3
I think, I mean, he you came, you come on stage, and basically, if you find something out that's funny, you just kind of roll with it. Yeah. Which I like, which I think is cool. But yeah, it's been really interesting touring and seeing how people, how people react to Wyatt's sense of humor and mine, because we both have a really dark sense of humor, like really dark.

00:36:10:19 - 00:36:20:08
Speaker 3
And it's been so funny going from city to city, because I know how people receive my humor, and also they hate me on site because I'm not only French, I'm. I'm not only French, I'm also American. Both sides. People hate me. She's a.

00:36:20:08 - 00:36:20:27
Speaker 2
White girl and.

00:36:20:27 - 00:36:21:11
Speaker 3
I'm white.

00:36:21:18 - 00:36:24:03
Speaker 2
On white girl. We get up on stage, we're still going.

00:36:24:06 - 00:36:25:19
Speaker 1
This is not white people.

00:36:25:21 - 00:36:27:04
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's true. True.

00:36:27:06 - 00:36:27:24
Speaker 3
But it's like.

00:36:27:29 - 00:36:30:28
Speaker 2
It's like how you see pretty young white girl, you're like, fuck this. Yeah.

00:36:30:29 - 00:36:34:15
Speaker 3
This bitch has never struggled in her life. Why is she up here complaining to do that?

00:36:34:15 - 00:36:35:03
Speaker 2
Switzerland.

00:36:35:03 - 00:36:39:00
Speaker 1
We're struggling to get you out there. You actually struggle?

00:36:39:02 - 00:36:40:05
Speaker 2
Yeah, you better than us.

00:36:40:06 - 00:37:02:24
Speaker 3
And so, you know, you go to on every location. And I swear some people were all over. All like in Dublin. They love dark humor in London to Manchester. And I think that's for them. It's their history of they know what it is to really go through shit. And so for them, dark humor is their outlet. But then you have people in the area who, like, are just not.

00:37:02:24 - 00:37:11:05
Speaker 3
They're so well off that I feel like there's just a mix. You know, it was really interesting to see. And then the thing is why it can win over pretty much every crowd. I've seen it.

00:37:11:12 - 00:37:12:22
Speaker 2
Oh, where? I don't think that's true.

00:37:12:22 - 00:37:21:00
Speaker 3
It's true. I've seen it where people at the beginning, like if they get shocked by a dark joke, you can start at. The other night he started his entire set with a pedophile joke.

00:37:21:03 - 00:37:22:10
Speaker 2
Oh, did I wait? Which one?

00:37:22:12 - 00:37:24:18
Speaker 3
I think it was. It was straight.

00:37:24:18 - 00:37:29:28
Speaker 2
Up. Straight up which one? Yeah. Wait, which one of my jokes?

00:37:30:00 - 00:37:30:19
Speaker 3
Which one?

00:37:30:21 - 00:37:31:20
Speaker 2
This got a me.

00:37:31:27 - 00:37:32:19
Speaker 3
Yeah. So I forget.

00:37:32:19 - 00:37:32:29
Speaker 2
Why you.

00:37:33:01 - 00:37:41:21
Speaker 3
Say one. One said he started with a trans joke. And on another side he started with the open with the pedo joke. And, I can't remember which one it was because you. I think you have a few.

00:37:41:21 - 00:37:42:20
Speaker 2
But no, but the thing is.

00:37:42:21 - 00:37:43:12
Speaker 3
And it works.

00:37:43:15 - 00:37:50:06
Speaker 2
And I just have my whole hour and I know where it is. And I'm like, you know, I guess I'm just going to double and triple down because I don't have anything else, you know?

00:37:50:06 - 00:38:00:22
Speaker 3
But it's so good because it's actually like the I think also the confidence that like maybe it's like just you're like, okay, this is my sense of humor and this is what I'm doing. And you guys are going to get on board because it's going to be this for an hour.

00:38:00:23 - 00:38:15:20
Speaker 2
Dude, I have to say that almost every time here. Yeah, but guys, this actually even in the US, I have to say that. Yeah, I think what it is, is people come there and they know who I am and they know my sense of humor, but then they bring their friends and they don't know. And so like I'm like, oh guys, it's going to be like this for an hour.

00:38:15:20 - 00:38:16:21
Speaker 2
Like, these are the nice.

00:38:16:28 - 00:38:37:21
Speaker 3
Lock in right now. Like, especially if you come with your parents, if you're coming out here with your family or whatever. Like, I mean, that was that was well, the thing on one of these shows, somebody came like a daughter came with her mom. And then people in relationships coming as well as, like, the best because, like, especially if you sit in the front row, like, this is another thing that people in Europe, I don't think they understand.

00:38:37:25 - 00:38:43:25
Speaker 3
His stand up comedy is still pretty young. A lot of these cities, they don't understand if they sit in the front row, they're going to get spoken to.

00:38:43:28 - 00:38:45:13
Speaker 1
Actually in Berlin, they learn it.

00:38:45:15 - 00:38:46:05
Speaker 2
They learn in.

00:38:46:05 - 00:38:49:23
Speaker 1
Berlin. Sometimes the whole front row be like, clear, need be like not only.

00:38:49:25 - 00:38:50:13
Speaker 3
That's also.

00:38:50:13 - 00:38:55:07
Speaker 2
Bad, though. Yesterday nobody was talking to me. I was trying to talk. They didn't want to really be honest.

00:38:55:10 - 00:39:17:21
Speaker 1
You know what? Depending on the audience, like if it's like a mostly, German audience, sometimes it can be a little stiff in terms of, like how they want to communicate or like eastern, central or Eastern European countries or whatever. Like sometimes even the way they laugh is just very like internal. I mean, some shows where like, again, you be performing, this is another thing I learned you'll be performing any kind of just like, you know, kind of like just holding it in there laughing.

00:39:17:21 - 00:39:26:28
Speaker 1
You can't like, all right, what's going on? So you think, you know, you think it's not going good after you're done with the show, they come up to you, but. Oh, this is my favorite show. Oh, man, I really love your stuff. This is not blah blah blah.

00:39:26:28 - 00:39:27:27
Speaker 2
Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah.

00:39:27:27 - 00:39:31:15
Speaker 1
Supporters but not laugh. So you'd be like all right.

00:39:31:19 - 00:39:39:18
Speaker 3
That's why the mics here, they laid down the ground rules. Some shit you don't even have to do in the States anymore where like when you find something funny, you laugh when you don't fight.

00:39:39:18 - 00:39:43:10
Speaker 2
I hate when comics do that. But, you know, I think it does help. It does?

00:39:43:10 - 00:40:03:28
Speaker 3
Yeah, it helps because they don't know all the they don't. They're like, okay, I want to I want to laugh so bad, but I don't know if I can. And that's why it's so important here. Like at least in the smaller comedy scenes, like in Brussels now they're starting to get used to it finally. But oftentimes you just got to explain, I think my favorite crowd to go on this tour with you so far has potentially.

00:40:03:28 - 00:40:10:08
Speaker 3
I mean, because it wasn't. The thing is, though, you weren't doing your hour, but the vibe of the audience was interesting to me. It was the people in Prague.

00:40:10:08 - 00:40:10:25
Speaker 2
Yeah, progress.

00:40:10:25 - 00:40:17:14
Speaker 3
Fun vibe of the people in Prague, because they don't have the political tension that like Berlin has. They don't.

00:40:17:14 - 00:40:19:03
Speaker 2
Yeah, they were just all white.

00:40:19:05 - 00:40:23:29
Speaker 3
Oh well. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, they were chilling, but like, yeah.

00:40:24:01 - 00:40:32:09
Speaker 1
Yeah, I thought what, what did I guess. Yeah. Honestly, it's funny because everyone I think in Europe is all white. So it's kind of like all right. So there's different types of this level.

00:40:32:09 - 00:40:35:12
Speaker 3
What's your favorite, country to perform in and know?

00:40:35:12 - 00:40:37:14
Speaker 2
What's your favorite room in Berlin?

00:40:37:16 - 00:40:42:23
Speaker 1
Favorite room in Berlin? Ooh, put me on the spot. Of course, my room that do my show.

00:40:42:25 - 00:40:43:24
Speaker 2
Okay. Fair, fair.

00:40:43:27 - 00:40:44:10
Speaker 1
No.

00:40:44:16 - 00:40:45:11
Speaker 2
Let's take that one out.

00:40:45:11 - 00:40:47:17
Speaker 1
Yeah, take that one out. I'll take it out the pocket.

00:40:47:19 - 00:40:50:29
Speaker 2
No, not like I mean, just. But, we'll take that one.

00:40:51:04 - 00:40:54:18
Speaker 1
Yeah. My favorite is one room. I would say the wall.

00:40:54:18 - 00:40:56:16
Speaker 2
The wall? Yeah. The wall.

00:40:56:18 - 00:40:59:05
Speaker 1
I can get kind of fun to either be on and off some wall.

00:40:59:05 - 00:41:02:26
Speaker 2
The wall. I feel like last time I did it has, like, a weird. It's like just straight.

00:41:03:01 - 00:41:08:07
Speaker 1
Yeah, it. Yeah. The room situation is kind of weird, but it just has like that, like club feel, I guess.

00:41:08:07 - 00:41:09:18
Speaker 2
Yeah. Okay.

00:41:09:20 - 00:41:13:26
Speaker 1
Cosmic does as well, but cosmic has more of a different type of feel, like a cabaret type of.

00:41:13:27 - 00:41:15:17
Speaker 3
Yeah, I love that back.

00:41:15:17 - 00:41:18:06
Speaker 2
Seems upstage. Yeah. Upscale. Upscale.

00:41:18:06 - 00:41:20:09
Speaker 1
Oh, no. No. Downstairs comedy club. That's a dope.

00:41:20:09 - 00:41:21:19
Speaker 2
Spot. Oh, I've never had places.

00:41:21:22 - 00:41:33:10
Speaker 1
Like, very famous comedian, like German dude. He's like the top. Listen to Porsche. Hot. No, not shot is, top. Listen to like, German podcaster in like, no European podcast. Oh, wow.

00:41:33:14 - 00:41:36:03
Speaker 2
So like comedy mothership. Yeah. That's crazy.

00:41:36:03 - 00:41:51:24
Speaker 1
Sold out Mercedes Benz Arena twice. Especially like, he's very famous. But he built this club and like, bro, it's like low ceilings, like, oh, he is a comedian who made it so like, they have the, like the way to have the angles of like the video that they give you after you're done. They got like a nice green room and everything.

00:41:51:25 - 00:41:54:08
Speaker 3
Oh, it's made by a comedian. Comedians.

00:41:54:08 - 00:41:54:13
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:41:54:13 - 00:41:57:10
Speaker 1
It's good. And the room is like wide. So it was like now no.

00:41:57:10 - 00:41:58:05
Speaker 2
Long.

00:41:58:05 - 00:42:05:08
Speaker 1
Tunnel. Some shit like as wide as people there is. Nice is tight, the ceilings are low, is dark, is.

00:42:05:08 - 00:42:07:06
Speaker 2
Like, oh, that's great.

00:42:07:09 - 00:42:11:12
Speaker 1
Downstairs comedy club background and whatever it is, is like dope. So I would say that's my favorite.

00:42:11:12 - 00:42:14:06
Speaker 2
I should try that back to New York. Yeah.

00:42:14:09 - 00:42:22:28
Speaker 1
Not maybe like once a year bro. Last time on women it was, it was, it was I will say not no no no not the best. It was just kind of.

00:42:23:01 - 00:42:23:29
Speaker 2
What was it.

00:42:24:01 - 00:42:35:01
Speaker 1
Basically I had a lot of expectations. Right. Because you know I'm out here, I'm like, all right, cool. You know, let me make sure I go back to New York City. Let me make sure I'm still I still got it, you know, I mean, because I want to be out here in Europe and, you know, feel like I can't perform at the New York City.

00:42:35:07 - 00:42:40:15
Speaker 1
We're not to New York City, bro. For one, I was I was staying in Williamsburg. So that was the wrong move because I, you know, there's.

00:42:40:15 - 00:42:44:07
Speaker 2
How many clubs in there now, There's a bunch of comedy clubs near there now.

00:42:44:07 - 00:42:52:03
Speaker 1
It is. But I guess maybe coming back to New York City wise to live in, like, say, best of whatever little like a tiny club living, like staying in one of these.

00:42:52:08 - 00:42:53:27
Speaker 2
The real people. Not like transplants.

00:42:53:27 - 00:42:56:14
Speaker 1
Yeah, I felt like I was in a sitcom, bro. The whole time. I was like.

00:42:56:14 - 00:42:58:01
Speaker 2
Yeah, what the fuck is going on? I don't feel.

00:42:58:01 - 00:43:02:09
Speaker 1
Like I'm living in New York. But I was out there. I did luxury lounge or whatever that was.

00:43:02:13 - 00:43:03:10
Speaker 2
Oh. You did Rene show?

00:43:03:14 - 00:43:05:00
Speaker 1
Yeah. So that was a very.

00:43:05:03 - 00:43:16:15
Speaker 2
That's a very New York show to do. Yeah. You would do that? Yeah. It's not paid that. Oh, it's not good. No offense Rene. You know I love you. It's not the best audience. But you fucking learn stand up in that room because.

00:43:16:15 - 00:43:20:14
Speaker 1
You it cost you a lot in many different levels that you think it can cost you. But,

00:43:20:17 - 00:43:26:04
Speaker 2
I just go there up with. No, I go up with no material and just like, all right, let's see if I can find something. I just bomb every time.

00:43:26:05 - 00:43:32:23
Speaker 1
It's basically a hookah bar. That's, you know, that's very tight. And you don't know where the smoke goes, but it goes somewhere.

00:43:32:27 - 00:43:33:11
Speaker 3
Oh, my.

00:43:33:11 - 00:43:39:28
Speaker 2
God, that's it. And it's like, right next to. It's like on the most legendary street of all comedy, you know, it's on MacDougal.

00:43:39:29 - 00:43:42:12
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Sure, sure, sure, sure.

00:43:42:12 - 00:43:50:01
Speaker 1
You see your dreams right in front of you, but you got to go back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got like, you got to turn around, go back into this place where the smoke is just disappearing somewhere.

00:43:50:08 - 00:44:14:12
Speaker 3
But yeah, it's interesting to hear all of this stuff from people who are, US based because obviously I have I have not done hardly. I've, I've barely touched the U.S or comedy. Yeah. And I really can't make that up. That's why I'm actually going back in September and I'm trying to I'm going to be there for a few months, and I'm going to try and actually finally experience, the American side of, of comedy a little bit more.

00:44:14:18 - 00:44:19:05
Speaker 3
I'm lucky I have a lot of friends now because I've been talking to a lot of people online.

00:44:19:08 - 00:44:25:09
Speaker 2
She's very good at the online networking. Yeah, that's how she met me. That's how she met Natalie. That's how she married. Yeah.

00:44:25:09 - 00:44:25:22
Speaker 3
That's true.

00:44:25:22 - 00:44:26:06
Speaker 2
And everyone.

00:44:26:07 - 00:44:27:05
Speaker 3
That's actually how I just.

00:44:27:05 - 00:44:27:21
Speaker 2
Very good.

00:44:27:21 - 00:44:43:13
Speaker 3
At that. I just text or email and and usually folks answer and then I wind up hanging out with them. It's it's so I have a lot of friends in on the East Coast in particular and a couple in LA. And I'm going to try and go. But like when I hear you guys talking about it, it does feel very daunting.

00:44:43:13 - 00:44:45:17
Speaker 3
It does scare me.

00:44:45:19 - 00:44:46:06
Speaker 2
That's okay.

00:44:46:10 - 00:44:55:03
Speaker 3
I'm okay with bombing. But you know, the fear of bombing is sometimes not as bad as the actual bombing. You can get over the bombing. It's the anticipation of the bomb that sucks.

00:44:55:03 - 00:44:55:18
Speaker 2
Yeah, I.

00:44:55:18 - 00:45:01:15
Speaker 1
Think it's always going to be good for a comedian to be fish out of water, though. Like, yeah, it's just going to just, you know, work your brain in a different.

00:45:01:16 - 00:45:07:06
Speaker 3
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm ready to learn that. I'm ready to learn. That's enough. That's just one thing. I just want to I just want to learn everything.

00:45:07:06 - 00:45:07:22
Speaker 2
That I can.

00:45:07:25 - 00:45:29:09
Speaker 1
And it's just expensive, you know? I mean, like, out. Here you go. You take a bus to a whole different civilization and, like, you know, be performing and just go back and forth in the under. It's still under €100. Like, you know, I mean, food is still relatively cheap. You go, you tour. I mean, yeah, you tell me right there, like, you know, the flight is expensive, the hotel is expensive, the food is shitty and expensive, you know, I.

00:45:29:09 - 00:45:31:10
Speaker 2
Mean, oh, man, that sucks. Nice.

00:45:31:12 - 00:45:36:24
Speaker 1
It's not. It's not shitty and expensive just for you to go places to go eat is expensive, especially when you go to Midwest.

00:45:36:26 - 00:45:54:07
Speaker 2
So also, like you said, because the culture comedy's newer here, I think people are more likely to just go to a show like, oh yeah, I'll go to a show. I don't know, the comic in the US, like, we don't know who you are. No one's buying tickets version. It's not sucks, right? Yeah. No chance to fight crazy.

00:45:54:10 - 00:45:58:04
Speaker 1
Like, Like why? Because, you know, I think we start around the same time, right?

00:45:58:06 - 00:46:00:17
Speaker 2
Or whatever I saw in 2016 when you start.

00:46:00:17 - 00:46:05:04
Speaker 1
Okay. Like around the same time. Yeah. Yeah, actually, yeah. Around the same time, like, not too not too far away from that. Yeah.

00:46:05:06 - 00:46:10:13
Speaker 2
So I always thought he was years ahead of me. He was so good. I saw a guy at the mix. He was so good. I was like, oh, man.

00:46:10:14 - 00:46:27:12
Speaker 1
I mean, I think they. But, so you. When we started, bro, like, I was just talking before is that he was like, you know, we doing the mix and everything and then up, then the pandemic and it after bro, you were just. I see you and then I saw you. It was like do Instagram with a lot of followers.

00:46:27:12 - 00:46:30:01
Speaker 1
I'm like, what the fuck of it? You know, like, what was he.

00:46:30:08 - 00:46:32:26
Speaker 3
He's got he's got he really knows what he's doing.

00:46:32:26 - 00:46:37:11
Speaker 2
Yeah, I try to just because I feel like that's part of the game, you know? That's the fun but hasn't.

00:46:37:11 - 00:46:41:01
Speaker 1
Figured out the game because bro again we we would not too far away from where we started.

00:46:41:01 - 00:46:46:12
Speaker 2
So like I mean this is what I always tell her is just go look at what the comedians bigger than you are doing and just copy that.

00:46:46:15 - 00:46:55:18
Speaker 3
He's got some great he's got some really insightful copy, whatever they're doing things to say. I'm I'm not even at ten because you hit ten K, which is really good because he's.

00:46:55:18 - 00:46:57:04
Speaker 2
The first ten K's where.

00:46:57:06 - 00:47:01:09
Speaker 3
He said the first ten K's really hard. I just reached 6.2 K today.

00:47:01:14 - 00:47:04:29
Speaker 2
I see that's how you know she's on Instagram. Try hard. So you said 6.2 like.

00:47:05:05 - 00:47:10:07
Speaker 3
I'm not I'm focusing on numbers I am a try hard no dude I'm trying so.

00:47:10:07 - 00:47:13:12
Speaker 2
Hard. Gotta be true. Can join the Instagram try hard group.

00:47:13:14 - 00:47:28:19
Speaker 3
It's hard. It's social media. It's hard. I think when I look at the OGs like not not like og og, but when I look at like people who, when they were doing comedy before social media and they were just releasing the album, they were on the radio and they were doing TV shows, I sometimes think it would have been great to be in that era of comedy where we.

00:47:28:21 - 00:47:30:01
Speaker 2
It would not, it would not.

00:47:30:01 - 00:47:31:02
Speaker 3
But that's so.

00:47:31:02 - 00:47:48:01
Speaker 2
Build your own audience. I feel back then you'd have to go, like I'd have to go convince network executives like, hey, this kind of comedy will sell. And they're like, I don't think it's going to sell historically. Historically, they'd be like, Indian comics don't really do dark humor, not talk about being Indian at all. So it wouldn't sell.

00:47:48:04 - 00:47:55:08
Speaker 2
That's why I love, that's why I love social media. I mean, every famous comic you see now, they came out from social media. That's the generation we're in now.

00:47:55:08 - 00:47:55:27
Speaker 3
That's so true.

00:47:55:27 - 00:48:02:04
Speaker 2
For the pandemic. It was a little pre that it was the end of the like. You come up via TV or like something like that.

00:48:02:04 - 00:48:03:02
Speaker 3
But now Netflix.

00:48:03:04 - 00:48:06:07
Speaker 2
We just social media. Yeah all social.

00:48:06:07 - 00:48:09:05
Speaker 1
Media 10,000 now feeling like the effects of it. You know what I mean.

00:48:09:05 - 00:48:10:26
Speaker 2
Yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah.

00:48:10:26 - 00:48:15:28
Speaker 1
And I'm pretty sure with you, like, because you're a decent man. Your followers out here in Europe too, right? I'm assuming.

00:48:15:28 - 00:48:21:21
Speaker 2
Yeah. Well, that's one great thing about social media is, anywhere they speak English, Instagram finds them, TikTok finds them.

00:48:21:21 - 00:48:28:18
Speaker 3
Yeah. And people forget in the States that in Europe, because in Europe, people speak multiple languages. They can understand your English comedy. Yeah.

00:48:28:19 - 00:48:30:22
Speaker 1
Perfectly fine, unless you speak it fast.

00:48:30:24 - 00:48:36:00
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's the thing. You got to slow down when you're American. I've encountered this so many times. Really? I had to slow the fuck down.

00:48:36:00 - 00:48:37:03
Speaker 2
I was talking about.

00:48:37:05 - 00:48:40:28
Speaker 1
This after the show. Some guy was like, I, he's like, I don't know what you said, but I just love the energy.

00:48:41:04 - 00:48:46:24
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm. Oh, that's why I was always jealous about him, man. Some of these people, some people have such charisma that.

00:48:46:28 - 00:48:47:06
Speaker 3
You.

00:48:47:06 - 00:48:48:28
Speaker 2
Can feel just like you're just making.

00:48:48:28 - 00:48:52:08
Speaker 3
Noises, bro. You're just making noises. And they still vibe with it. They're like.

00:48:52:11 - 00:49:00:15
Speaker 1
But as a comedian, I'm like, yo, what the fuck you mean? Like, I took that as an offense. I'm like, God forgive me, energy. You know me. This is my brain, my, trauma related. You know, I'm kind of like, what the fuck? You, me.

00:49:00:15 - 00:49:01:18
Speaker 2
Energy. He's like, I'm.

00:49:01:18 - 00:49:02:19
Speaker 1
Like, what's up with the things I.

00:49:02:19 - 00:49:04:24
Speaker 2
Was saying? Yeah, yeah.

00:49:04:26 - 00:49:11:17
Speaker 3
So now you talk, now you got to. I learned to slow down. I used to machine gun my jokes. And then. And then I forgot that just people can't.

00:49:11:21 - 00:49:11:25
Speaker 2
People.

00:49:11:27 - 00:49:22:14
Speaker 3
Because God has slowed down and it's. They understand you, but you need to make the effort. Also, the people here tend to find the American accent. A lot of people don't like the American accent as much as the British English accent or the.

00:49:22:17 - 00:49:23:28
Speaker 2
Something that's true.

00:49:24:01 - 00:49:27:10
Speaker 3
Now. I've met so many French people learn British English in school.

00:49:27:10 - 00:49:43:27
Speaker 1
I asked somebody, hey, where are people from? I just didn't have recently at a show that I was doing, I asked them, actually, I'm like, I'm like, hey, so anyone here from like an interesting country? People are silent and after a while knows I'm like, oh, I'm asking people with an American accent from a country that Trump is in office now.

00:49:44:00 - 00:49:47:07
Speaker 1
Hey, or anyone from an interesting country. People like, no, hey, I'm.

00:49:47:09 - 00:49:48:11
Speaker 2
Yes.

00:49:48:13 - 00:49:51:03
Speaker 1
From nowhere. I don't want you to shit the fuck.

00:49:51:09 - 00:49:52:14
Speaker 2
Yeah. True. So sometimes.

00:49:52:20 - 00:50:03:12
Speaker 1
Yeah. So now even like, what's happening in America now is affecting things. Our American policy down here even we ask somebody like, hey, anyway, for America, people just like me. And I'm like, oh.

00:50:03:12 - 00:50:03:28
Speaker 2
Shit, because they're.

00:50:03:28 - 00:50:13:06
Speaker 3
Shy. Americans are shy this year. They're scared. They're like, I'm going to get stabbed behind this comedy club in the street in Berlin.

00:50:13:08 - 00:50:18:29
Speaker 2
Dude, I thought that was going to happen to me. And, where was the one? Where was the one where the. In Barcelona. There was some guys.

00:50:18:29 - 00:50:21:02
Speaker 3
Oh my God, yeah, that was crazy.

00:50:21:02 - 00:50:30:28
Speaker 2
Oh my God. So I get up on stage and I just, I make one Muslim joke is like my first or second joke. Yeah. And two Muslim guys in the front walk out and I thought they needed to pee, but they never came back.

00:50:30:28 - 00:50:44:20
Speaker 3
They didn't come back. And those same guys in the front row, I was wearing sandals that day and I just got my toes done. You remember this pose? No. But you remember how we were like we were. We were talking about this before. He's like, we should get an angle. I said, maybe I should take advantage of the fact that my toes are out.

00:50:44:20 - 00:50:58:19
Speaker 3
And he was. He joked. And he said, yeah, let's get an angle of that and then you can make money of that in the real, you know, just your toes put a toes. And so when I went on stage, I was like, listen, Wyatt, I think tonight I'm just going to see if anyone wants to suck my toes on stage.

00:50:58:21 - 00:51:18:01
Speaker 3
And so and so. This was crazy. I asked the guys in the front row, I was like, do you want to suck my toes? No, no, no. The first three guys were Muslim. The fourth guy was Muslim and gay and it was so bad. And I think that combined my asking if they wanted to suck my toes, combining combined with him making Muslim jokes, they walked out and they didn't come back.

00:51:18:01 - 00:51:18:26
Speaker 2
Damn. Did you see.

00:51:18:28 - 00:51:19:13
Speaker 3
Those three.

00:51:19:13 - 00:51:20:01
Speaker 2
Guys start.

00:51:20:01 - 00:51:21:24
Speaker 1
Off with like the total materials or.

00:51:22:01 - 00:51:22:10
Speaker 2


00:51:22:11 - 00:51:23:14
Speaker 3
About two minutes in.

00:51:23:14 - 00:51:24:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's kind of. Yeah, this. Wow.

00:51:25:00 - 00:51:26:27
Speaker 3
But the gay Muslim guy was super cool. His name was.

00:51:26:27 - 00:51:34:05
Speaker 2
Christian. You know why he was not extremism? He told me that after he's like, oh, I just love you. Like he. I hate when you're doing car wreck. And they just.

00:51:34:05 - 00:51:35:01
Speaker 1
Lie.

00:51:35:04 - 00:51:36:02
Speaker 3
It's Christian. If you.

00:51:36:02 - 00:51:36:26
Speaker 2
Say this, you're a.

00:51:36:26 - 00:51:38:19
Speaker 3
Liar.

00:51:38:22 - 00:51:46:17
Speaker 2
After he's like, come on, man, I'm from Mexico and they're Muslims. I'm like, that's what I said on stage. He said it just like that's what they said on stage. I was like, you're a Mexican.

00:51:46:19 - 00:51:47:12
Speaker 3
Mexican Muslim.

00:51:47:12 - 00:51:52:08
Speaker 2
And he's like, yes, I am. And I was like, how does that happen? And he's like, and I was like, okay.

00:51:52:08 - 00:51:56:07
Speaker 3
I'm Mexican Muslim, whose name is Christian, who is gay?

00:51:56:09 - 00:51:59:14
Speaker 1
I mean, annoyed that he shrugged. It off. Like, you gotta give me some context.

00:51:59:19 - 00:52:04:17
Speaker 2
Yeah, that's I asked him a bunch of times and he only told me after, like, I was just like, I hate when.

00:52:04:18 - 00:52:11:22
Speaker 3
I hate when people lie. Like, why would you do that? I also hate when people lie about their names or their job, like, why are you lying, bro? No one can see your face.

00:52:11:23 - 00:52:12:16
Speaker 2
You know what I like?

00:52:12:16 - 00:52:24:07
Speaker 1
I would I would be okay with the lie if it was good. Man. Most you don't know how to lie. Good in a crowd work situation usually begin. You know, you ask him to be like, yeah, I work as an astronaut. You be like, really? All right, well.

00:52:24:09 - 00:52:29:21
Speaker 3
Like, say stripper, say stripper. I believe that, you know, it doesn't matter if you're not.

00:52:29:24 - 00:52:35:10
Speaker 1
You work for NASA. Sure you'd like. Come on, bro, this is like, you ain't giving me nothing. What are you looking for in this interaction?

00:52:35:10 - 00:52:38:10
Speaker 3
We had a few interesting moments. And on on the.

00:52:38:13 - 00:52:40:21
Speaker 2
On the underground welder guy.

00:52:40:23 - 00:52:43:01
Speaker 3
Yeah. That's true. That was really cool.

00:52:43:01 - 00:52:43:10
Speaker 2
Under.

00:52:43:12 - 00:52:49:17
Speaker 3
Yeah, we had this one guy sitting in the second row last night who was so hyper, so funny, I had.

00:52:49:17 - 00:52:51:07
Speaker 2
To shut him up, remember? I think it was bad.

00:52:51:09 - 00:52:53:16
Speaker 3
He was so hyper. He came with that energy.

00:52:53:19 - 00:53:11:11
Speaker 2
That's one thing that I never I never learned because, you know, doing stand up for a long time, you learn to deal with hecklers, right? Yeah. But it's a whole different game when the heckler is a big fan of yours and they spent lots of money, like especially it's happened in Toronto. She bought like to sit front row like $50 ticket and then she bought merch too.

00:53:11:17 - 00:53:17:02
Speaker 2
And she was heckling the shit at me. And I was just like, how the fuck do I shut her up without being so mean that she hates me?

00:53:17:02 - 00:53:21:09
Speaker 3
That's why you got to have a host who explains the ground rules up front sometimes. Sometimes, guy.

00:53:21:10 - 00:53:23:25
Speaker 2
Yesterday I had to, like, be like, please, like don't talk. Yeah.

00:53:23:26 - 00:53:26:16
Speaker 1
I mean, if you shut down, what are you going to ask for a refund? Especially like we're going.

00:53:26:23 - 00:53:30:18
Speaker 2
Yeah. No, but they're just not going to spend my next time. Yeah. At least.

00:53:30:20 - 00:53:39:10
Speaker 3
See, I'm scared of. There's a reason why I'm also scared of performing in the United States. And that's because I'm scared. Like, what if I say something and then somebody afterwards tries? They have guns.

00:53:39:13 - 00:53:39:25
Speaker 1
That.

00:53:39:25 - 00:53:58:11
Speaker 2
No, no no no no. Here's why. You don't be scared that because if somebody shoots you and you survive, you are super famous. And if you die, you're a legend. I know, no joke. Such an American. Like, at least you go down to dude with my dignity. Like, what about my health? He's like, yeah, but what about your famous you.

00:53:58:16 - 00:54:00:02
Speaker 3
You're so famous right now.

00:54:00:02 - 00:54:05:14
Speaker 2
Are the ghosts of, like, of dark humor. If somebody shoots you over that shit, I'm serious.

00:54:05:15 - 00:54:06:20
Speaker 3
I would rather get shot.

00:54:06:21 - 00:54:11:15
Speaker 2
You know, that's how Jim Jefferies got famous, right? You got shot on stage, and that's how we got famous.

00:54:11:17 - 00:54:13:15
Speaker 3
I'm having stroke. I'm struggling, believing that. Are you for.

00:54:13:15 - 00:54:14:26
Speaker 2
Real? Yeah, I'm being serious.

00:54:14:26 - 00:54:15:19
Speaker 3
You're being serious.

00:54:15:19 - 00:54:20:21
Speaker 2
So that's how he made his. That's how he got famous in Australia. And then he made his jump to the US and the rest of the world.

00:54:20:21 - 00:54:22:06
Speaker 1
Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

00:54:22:09 - 00:54:24:02
Speaker 3
The closest I have ever gotten to getting shot.

00:54:24:02 - 00:54:24:18
Speaker 2
Bastard.

00:54:24:19 - 00:54:26:01
Speaker 3
Is leeches. That's the closest I.

00:54:26:07 - 00:54:27:20
Speaker 2
Yeah, I got leeches on you.

00:54:27:23 - 00:54:30:00
Speaker 3
I got when I was in India. No, I.

00:54:30:00 - 00:54:30:25
Speaker 2
Know I've heard this.

00:54:30:25 - 00:54:35:17
Speaker 3
Story. You know he's heard this. Anyways, I just got leeches in India. That's the closest I've ever gotten to getting shot.

00:54:35:17 - 00:54:36:29
Speaker 2
I guess you just,

00:54:37:01 - 00:54:38:29
Speaker 1
Damn, that feels worth it. Getting shot.

00:54:39:04 - 00:54:40:16
Speaker 3
Yeah, that was gross.

00:54:40:19 - 00:54:56:17
Speaker 2
Dude, if you get shot as a comedian, like, because most of us comedians, you know, we want to be musicians. We wanted to be rappers. I feel like 57 is so cool. I got shot, I survived, and I got on stage. Talk more shit. It's about that. I'm not even going to lie.

00:54:56:17 - 00:55:00:05
Speaker 1
How bad comedy is in America. We're wishing to get shot so we can make it.

00:55:00:07 - 00:55:12:12
Speaker 2
Yes, yes. You're like, I would risk my life. I'm just here like, dude, how many millions of views will this real get if I get shot during the joke? That's a hundred million views. You okay?

00:55:12:13 - 00:55:14:24
Speaker 1
You might. We're going to reconsider your trip to America.

00:55:14:26 - 00:55:15:18
Speaker 2
Because.

00:55:15:21 - 00:55:21:00
Speaker 3
I mean, there, like I would, I will get shot. I will risk my life for that fame.

00:55:21:01 - 00:55:21:28
Speaker 2
I actually got body parts.

00:55:21:28 - 00:55:23:20
Speaker 1
And where I would prefer to go. But the thing is same.

00:55:23:20 - 00:55:25:18
Speaker 3
I would rather get shot in my leg, I think. Yeah, obviously.

00:55:25:18 - 00:55:25:25
Speaker 2
Oh, my.

00:55:25:25 - 00:55:27:22
Speaker 3
Oh my arm or my arm, but not an artery.

00:55:27:23 - 00:55:29:10
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah. Just like in some, in some.

00:55:29:10 - 00:55:30:02
Speaker 3
Like something.

00:55:30:02 - 00:55:30:20
Speaker 2
Meaty. Yeah.

00:55:30:20 - 00:55:32:16
Speaker 3
Goes right through and it goes right through.

00:55:32:19 - 00:55:33:18
Speaker 1
You know. No cast.

00:55:33:21 - 00:55:34:19
Speaker 3
And then you pull in.

00:55:34:21 - 00:55:40:02
Speaker 2
The Trump give me the, the the least amount that you can still call being got shot. Yeah.

00:55:40:02 - 00:55:54:10
Speaker 3
You guys are seen that video of Nixon I think it's I think it's a video of Nixon and a balloon pops or something. And it's and he goes you missed me. And then he kept talking like, I kind of want that. Like if that like I ever get shot on stage, it's going to be like, it needs. It needs to graze me or miss me.

00:55:54:13 - 00:55:54:29
Speaker 3
Let's just keep.

00:55:54:29 - 00:55:56:13
Speaker 2
Talking. You're like a big fan of mine.

00:55:56:16 - 00:55:57:18
Speaker 3
Don't do it.

00:55:57:21 - 00:56:11:10
Speaker 2
And you're like a sharpshooter. Because I don't want someone who who doesn't know what they're doing. But just, like, right? Like here. Right here. Like, make sure it's while I'm talking to most shit just right here. And trans people are people as long as they're skinny. Yes.

00:56:11:13 - 00:56:15:03
Speaker 1
But why would you be somebody with Stigmatism being like,

00:56:15:05 - 00:56:16:06
Speaker 2


00:56:16:08 - 00:56:17:18
Speaker 3
As long as it's like, right, I.

00:56:17:18 - 00:56:21:00
Speaker 2
Will, I will Venmo you $10,000 to do that.

00:56:21:01 - 00:56:23:21
Speaker 1
Oh, a thousand to we'll be the.

00:56:23:23 - 00:56:24:19
Speaker 3
People will hire their.

00:56:24:19 - 00:56:29:21
Speaker 2
Own. No, the net return will be great, I promise. I promise you the net worth just in terms of media coverage.

00:56:29:21 - 00:56:34:07
Speaker 1
Oh, oh, you have a vlog series with that too? Oh, yeah. You can have a whole entire series with that. You know, like.

00:56:34:07 - 00:56:34:17
Speaker 2
What.

00:56:34:17 - 00:56:36:03
Speaker 1
Happened, how it went down, how you feel.

00:56:36:07 - 00:56:36:16
Speaker 3
Oh my.

00:56:36:16 - 00:56:41:20
Speaker 2
God. Like, just imagine the special called Many Men.

00:56:41:23 - 00:56:42:20
Speaker 2
Yeah, but.

00:56:42:22 - 00:56:44:22
Speaker 3
You can have, like, a show called Shoot Your Shot.

00:56:44:25 - 00:56:45:19
Speaker 2
You have.

00:56:45:21 - 00:56:48:29
Speaker 3
Snipers comedy. At this point, you're making a whole franchise of that shit.

00:56:48:29 - 00:56:56:23
Speaker 2
Yeah. The only thing I hope my brand isn't getting shot. Like people come in the shows with guns. Yeah. I mean, like, by the end of the night, like something. Were taking a shot of this guy.

00:56:56:23 - 00:57:00:05
Speaker 3
Wyatt Figueredo is going to look like Swiss cheese.

00:57:00:05 - 00:57:02:03
Speaker 2
In, like, five years. You you go.

00:57:02:04 - 00:57:03:29
Speaker 1
To the south soon, so you wish may come true.

00:57:04:00 - 00:57:06:05
Speaker 2
Hey, hey. That's why I do.

00:57:06:08 - 00:57:08:05
Speaker 3
Yeah. Oh, my God, that's crazy.

00:57:08:05 - 00:57:10:17
Speaker 1
All right, so, So why I came.

00:57:10:17 - 00:57:11:00
Speaker 2
About time to.

00:57:11:00 - 00:57:17:18
Speaker 1
Go. No, I can't I can't have you leave. I mean, it's coming close. I want you keep you too long. But you again, you got a lot of followers now, right?

00:57:17:20 - 00:57:20:23
Speaker 2
I do okay, I want them, I want more. You always want more voice. Of course.

00:57:20:29 - 00:57:21:18
Speaker 3
Never enough.

00:57:21:20 - 00:57:30:03
Speaker 1
Of course, never enough. But what would you say? What tips could you give? Someone that would want to be in this position of, like.

00:57:30:03 - 00:57:33:21
Speaker 2
So they're already a comic, you're saying, or they're not comics yet?

00:57:33:23 - 00:57:35:20
Speaker 1
Let's. Yeah. Let's go. Come. Let's be.

00:57:35:23 - 00:57:47:07
Speaker 2
Okay. Actually, here's the real tip. A lot of comics have followers, like, you'll see comics with 100,000 followers, but they don't know how to mobilize them into making money. You know, that is what I'm working on now. That's why I.

00:57:47:08 - 00:57:47:27
Speaker 3
Come good at.

00:57:47:27 - 00:58:05:19
Speaker 2
That. That's why I come here. Because the first time you're in any city, you make almost no money. You know, like I did these shows, there's like 50 people. But next time there will be more. I promise you that I'll make more because that's. The thing is, you have 100,000 online, but people don't, like, think of you as an actual touring comedian.

00:58:05:23 - 00:58:13:29
Speaker 2
So you got to go out. And that's why I post the pictures like, look, guys, the show sold out. Like when I come to your city, you want to be there. It's a hot ticket. You just got to make them feel like that. You know?

00:58:13:29 - 00:58:22:01
Speaker 3
He actually speaks to his followers. So this is the crazy thing is that he goes, no, no, I'm just saying. But like, I mean, he talks to his followers just like engage them.

00:58:22:02 - 00:58:25:21
Speaker 2
Like they have to know you on a personal level to want to spend money.

00:58:25:26 - 00:58:29:28
Speaker 3
But the thing about Wyatt is that he's friendly. Also, that's what I what I mean is after a show.

00:58:30:01 - 00:58:31:09
Speaker 2
I try to yeah.

00:58:31:11 - 00:58:42:10
Speaker 3
After his show, he stays, man. And he really engages anybody who speaks to him. He's talk, he will talk. And sometimes it'll be until two in the morning. Wyatt really like he cares about his audiences. And that makes a difference.

00:58:42:11 - 00:58:56:26
Speaker 2
It means a lot to me that they like my stuff. And also, you know, when they're online, they're just a number. But then you see them in real life, there isn't a real person. They're real my comedy. So I love to talk to them. And then from the business side, it's like if you establish a connection, they're going to come back next time.

00:58:56:27 - 00:59:13:07
Speaker 3
I just I just recently had a few people like come to to a show where I was at because they were following me and they were like, I've been watching you. And I could not believe it. They were like, I've been watching your standup and I really, really like your stuff. And I'm like, I'm a I feel like I'm a baby comedian by most people's standards.

00:59:13:09 - 00:59:21:25
Speaker 3
I'm when somebody tells me that, it's like, dang, you actually care enough to spend time in your day watching my jokes online, and then you come and you pay for a ticket.

00:59:21:27 - 00:59:22:08
Speaker 2
Yeah.

00:59:22:08 - 00:59:29:25
Speaker 3
And then you see me. That's crazy. A crazy feeling, dude. That's why I also I really appreciate like you recognize a followers username.

00:59:29:25 - 00:59:34:25
Speaker 2
So good at giving compliments, man. That's why. That's why she tours with all the comics. Oh, stop.

00:59:34:29 - 00:59:40:22
Speaker 3
Yeah, he hates me. And it's insincere too. That's the worst part. I'm disgusting. I really mean it.

00:59:40:25 - 00:59:43:08
Speaker 1
But I hate her for it. She's actually sincere with this.

00:59:43:10 - 00:59:59:09
Speaker 3
But, like, you know, it'll be like you'll recognize it. Maybe you have a commenter on a follower of yours that always comments on your video, and then and then they come to your show and you're like, oh, you're that one person with the username, you know, big booty 27 I recognize you. Like what? That's crazy. And then you talk to them and that's really cool.

00:59:59:09 - 01:00:00:08
Speaker 3
I think that's really cool that.

01:00:00:13 - 01:00:03:01
Speaker 2
You got to be addicted to social. I mean, to do that. I mean, it's not.

01:00:03:03 - 01:00:05:24
Speaker 3
It's a job. The social media is a job.

01:00:05:25 - 01:00:07:19
Speaker 1
It's hard for you not to be addicted and also be good.

01:00:07:26 - 01:00:12:12
Speaker 2
And people ask, they're like, oh, is this your team responding? Why, no, it's me. No, it's straight. I'm wondering if anyone might.

01:00:12:13 - 01:00:12:28
Speaker 3
That's another.

01:00:12:28 - 01:00:16:17
Speaker 1
Thing. You a table at a diner with all my friends. And I'm just saying, yeah.

01:00:16:19 - 01:00:17:23
Speaker 2
No. Yes, exactly.

01:00:17:23 - 01:00:31:19
Speaker 3
That's another thing, though I will never, I hope, whatever level I reach in comedy, I hope whatever it is, I'm able to make a living off of it. Right? But whatever level I reach, I just know I'm not handing off my social media to anyone else. I want to be the one speaking to my my followers.

01:00:31:21 - 01:00:37:00
Speaker 2
You know? So then the other thing is, if you have no if you're a comic and you have no followers and you want.

01:00:37:03 - 01:00:37:25
Speaker 3
Yeah, right.

01:00:37:25 - 01:00:41:19
Speaker 2
One thing I'd say is people hate this advice. You have to post every day.

01:00:41:26 - 01:00:42:15
Speaker 1
Yeah.

01:00:42:17 - 01:00:48:04
Speaker 2
People hate that because they're like, oh, I don't have enough material. Like, what do I do? It's like, that's your job to figure it out. I don't know.

01:00:48:07 - 01:00:50:09
Speaker 3
Or I don't have the time. I don't have the time.

01:00:50:09 - 01:00:52:22
Speaker 2
I don't have the time. It's like, yeah, fair enough. I mean, but that's the job.

01:00:52:22 - 01:00:53:09
Speaker 3
You know, the time.

01:00:53:10 - 01:00:57:25
Speaker 2
The job is just sitting on stage, right now. Come on man. So yeah, I post every day.

01:00:57:29 - 01:00:59:24
Speaker 3
Every day Morgan has the same.

01:00:59:24 - 01:01:06:22
Speaker 2
Like I spent like six months, not six months, like three months posting every other day. And I got no growth. So I went back to posting every day.

01:01:06:29 - 01:01:13:14
Speaker 3
Morgan Jay said the same. He said he was. He posted consistently every single day, every day for years.

01:01:13:16 - 01:01:13:23
Speaker 2
Yeah.

01:01:13:24 - 01:01:20:04
Speaker 3
And it pays off. But you got like why? It's right I think consistent I mean since since I've been touring with him I've been posting one video.

01:01:20:04 - 01:01:21:24
Speaker 2
I try to bother her. I'm like, what do you post in a day?

01:01:21:25 - 01:01:25:03
Speaker 3
Yeah, one video a day. And it did make a difference.

01:01:25:03 - 01:01:25:21
Speaker 2
Yeah, you got it.

01:01:25:24 - 01:01:26:19
Speaker 3
It made a difference.

01:01:26:24 - 01:01:27:04
Speaker 2
For you.

01:01:27:04 - 01:01:28:01
Speaker 1
Post the more you grow.

01:01:28:04 - 01:01:29:16
Speaker 2
Yeah, yeah.

01:01:29:18 - 01:01:33:10
Speaker 1
Yeah. And I mean how much you like, you know you being with wired and stuff like that.

01:01:33:12 - 01:01:50:16
Speaker 2
So you learn and I would say if you're trying to make. This is what Luke, my brothers also come here, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen him. So this is what Luke actually explained to me that I never got because I was at 100. I'm like, how do you jump from 100 to higher? Because I couldn't, and he's like, he's like, look at these other people who did it.

01:01:50:18 - 01:02:08:09
Speaker 2
And what it is is you just spend money. That's it. Like now, like when I was in San Francisco, I just paid a guy to do three angles of me, and I paid someone to do the videography. And like, I'm like, I'll make this money back in the long term. But you invest once you're once you're that big to get bigger, you have to put money into your social media, you.

01:02:08:09 - 01:02:10:28
Speaker 1
Know, money in terms of the production of.

01:02:11:02 - 01:02:21:00
Speaker 2
Yes, yeah, the video has to look so TV quality eventually, you know, if you want to get to millions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. So yeah, that's all I got.

01:02:21:03 - 01:02:22:18
Speaker 1
I mean, you got anything.

01:02:22:20 - 01:02:27:22
Speaker 3
No, I mean, I just, I mean, I was a really great tour y and I'm happy is coming back next year because I'm definitely I'm definitely.

01:02:27:25 - 01:02:31:21
Speaker 2
Coming back next year. Come guys. And God even more says I don't know where your viewers are, but.

01:02:31:26 - 01:02:32:24
Speaker 1
Not in German.

01:02:32:24 - 01:02:39:03
Speaker 2
America or in Germany. We'll come back in Germany. So I'm gonna do Munich for sure. Next time I'm gonna do had a hamburger. Hamburg when it's.

01:02:39:07 - 01:02:40:03
Speaker 1
Hamburg. Yeah, you got.

01:02:40:04 - 01:02:43:18
Speaker 2
Burger next time. And then I'm gonna do, Berlin would be Berlin.

01:02:43:18 - 01:02:50:13
Speaker 1
He got, like, Cologne, maybe. Yeah. You got some other places? Yeah. You even got, Copenhagen two. You got.

01:02:50:16 - 01:02:51:22
Speaker 2
That's not in Germany, though.

01:02:51:23 - 01:02:53:19
Speaker 1
Not in Germany, but maybe.

01:02:53:19 - 01:02:57:18
Speaker 2
But the problem with that one is, like, it's kind of far from the rest of them. Yeah.

01:02:57:19 - 01:03:03:16
Speaker 1
What is Expensive city? That's the thing. Yeah. So, like, if you don't have the thing situated, it can be expensive. Like, just.

01:03:03:18 - 01:03:17:04
Speaker 2
The thing about New York, though, is like, if you can get off your lease, which most people don't, but it's actually cheaper to go anywhere else, I feel like really, you know, you spend less. Oh, I don't know. I don't get off my weeks. But I'm saying if you did, you would save money. I think that's fair.

01:03:17:05 - 01:03:20:05
Speaker 1
Or you could do with the, Victor Pascal Tron. Right. I don't know. You know, we were.

01:03:20:05 - 01:03:21:10
Speaker 2
Talking about him. We were talking about him.

01:03:21:16 - 01:03:22:04
Speaker 3
Victor is,

01:03:22:11 - 01:03:24:05
Speaker 2
I know he was basically homeless, okay?

01:03:24:05 - 01:03:25:16
Speaker 1
I mean, but, yeah.

01:03:25:18 - 01:03:26:20
Speaker 3
I liked your work, so.

01:03:26:20 - 01:03:27:17
Speaker 2
I'm only gonna.

01:03:27:17 - 01:03:28:02
Speaker 3
Say this.

01:03:28:02 - 01:03:29:18
Speaker 2
Is the person I've ever seen in my life.

01:03:29:18 - 01:03:53:25
Speaker 3
Victor is. Victor is one of the hardest working comedians I have ever met. I have so much respect for Victor Drago. Also, Drago built his following. He was posting consistently over Covid. Both of these guys like hard working Romanian comedians that are absolutely badass. And I love I love what they're doing, but like, that's the only example that we have in Europe of that kind of behavior, really of like of like the hustle online.

01:03:53:26 - 01:03:54:23
Speaker 2
Yeah, the hustle.

01:03:54:25 - 01:03:56:18
Speaker 3
And the constant traveling.

01:03:56:20 - 01:03:58:22
Speaker 2
So yeah, no, no shock. Shocked.

01:03:58:22 - 01:04:00:02
Speaker 3
As shocked as I am.

01:04:00:04 - 01:04:01:23
Speaker 2
It's just richer. Like the good.

01:04:01:23 - 01:04:03:05
Speaker 3
But yeah it's been really cool.

01:04:03:06 - 01:04:07:10
Speaker 2
Shocks higher than me then catch him. All respect. They're gonna catch you.

01:04:07:17 - 01:04:11:03
Speaker 3
It's nice to end the tour on such a, on such a cool conversation, I think.

01:04:11:03 - 01:04:12:29
Speaker 2
Yeah, it was, it was, it was like a recap.

01:04:13:02 - 01:04:13:13
Speaker 3
Yeah.

01:04:13:16 - 01:04:18:08
Speaker 2
Let's recap. But, anyways, shout out to Third Culture. Third coach podcast.

01:04:18:11 - 01:04:19:20
Speaker 1
To talk podcast. Sorry.

01:04:19:21 - 01:04:26:26
Speaker 2
Our coaching shout out to Third Culture Talk podcast. If you want to see C.K. tone where you're gonna be okay.

01:04:26:28 - 01:04:39:19
Speaker 3
Well next stop is going to be Brussels, but I'm actually going to be in Barcelona for the whole month from from end of July to end of August. I'm going to be in Barcelona. I'm going to be doing so many shows this summer. And then starting in September, I'll be going around the States.

01:04:39:21 - 01:04:42:11
Speaker 2
Yeah, if you want to see me. Sorry, I'm just pulling it up.

01:04:42:11 - 01:04:42:29
Speaker 1
Yeah, pull it up.

01:04:43:00 - 01:05:00:25
Speaker 2
This is what you always got to do. It's cringe. You. But you just got to plug, man. You got to sell. Here's what's coming up. I'm not giving you the dates because it's too many CS, but Augusta, Georgia, Columbia, South Carolina, Charlotte, Atlanta, New Orleans, Tampa, Naples, Florida, Baltimore. This guy Philadelphia, Morris Plains, new Jersey, Boston. Pottstown, Pennsylvania.

01:05:00:25 - 01:05:22:01
Speaker 2
Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Cleveland. Cincinnati. Dayton. Columbus. Bellingham, Washington. Seattle. Portland. Rochester. Salt Lake city, Las Vegas, Memphis, New York, Stamford. And I'm adding more soon. Let's go guys, I don't care if it's just one of you that's watching this. That's someone that's a fucking. Come tell me you watching this fucking podcast and I will dap you up. And I'm going to tell him.

01:05:22:01 - 01:05:27:16
Speaker 2
I'm going to tell him. Yeah, like, don't stop doing this shit. People watch this shit, bro. Why? You basically.

01:05:27:16 - 01:05:29:26
Speaker 1
Closed out my own podcast the way you just said that.

01:05:29:26 - 01:05:31:24
Speaker 2
Up. Sorry, sorry. No no no no no.

01:05:31:25 - 01:05:32:27
Speaker 1
It was good. I mean, I.

01:05:32:27 - 01:05:37:19
Speaker 2
Was waiting for you to close your closet. I was like, okay, I got bro, I was getting there. You got to like.

01:05:37:22 - 01:05:40:10
Speaker 1
I mean, it's already done now. You just, you like.

01:05:40:12 - 01:05:42:10
Speaker 2
You just it's like all ghetto stuff, but you.

01:05:42:10 - 01:05:43:23
Speaker 1
Want to fight about where to find you.

01:05:43:23 - 01:05:49:01
Speaker 2
At. Oh, like, that's my line. We do it. Fair, fair at white for Grado at comedy.

01:05:49:04 - 01:05:50:29
Speaker 3
Oh, shit. Yeah. That's true.

01:05:51:01 - 01:05:54:12
Speaker 2
AKA no, you. You're the host. Yes. I'm the whole show up for you every time.

01:05:54:12 - 01:06:00:04
Speaker 1
Yeah. I mean, Nia, that's a good yarn. Elephant. And, guys, thank you very much for doing.

01:06:00:04 - 01:06:02:19
Speaker 2
This so much. Thank you. Super cool.

01:06:02:21 - 01:06:04:22
Speaker 1
If you guys have come back to what you live out here.

01:06:04:22 - 01:06:08:19
Speaker 2
But yeah, I'll be back. Yeah, I'll be back in the bathroom.

01:06:08:19 - 01:06:10:14
Speaker 1
Let's don't get it, please.

01:06:10:14 - 01:06:16:05
Speaker 2
You know, don't get shot. Someone shoot me, please, please, please shoot me. And on that note.

01:06:16:08 - 01:06:18:24
Speaker 1
I'll see you guys later. Thank you very much for listening and.

01:06:18:27 - 01:06:19:27
Speaker 2
See you guys. Bye.