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From Kankakee to Berlin, Cold DM Hustle, and Midwest Culture w/ Lando | Ep 99
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In this episode I sit with Lando. He's a rapper and personal trainer from Kankakee, Illinois. He talks about his journey from a small town 45 minutes south of Chicago to touring across Germany.
We talk about Midwest culture and what makes it different from the coasts. And Lando shares a story of how he cold messaged a basketball team in Hamburg. And getting a halftime performance slot and ended up in Europe.
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That's what I didn't expect, man. The amount of black people, the amount of different cultures and ethnicities out here, too. Like the first when I first landed in Frankfurt, that's when my flight landed. I I just went to see because I had a long layoff before my train left. I just hopped on a bus and just rode around. First guy that talked to me was Turkish. And I just was like, damn, I didn't expect that.
SPEAKER_00Like I definitely expect Welcome to the Third Culture Talk Podcast. I'm your host, Yan Kennife. This podcast we talk with people that are raised in a culture different than their parents' home culture or way of life or nationality. And now they're living in today's culture, which is vastly different than the days of our parents or even back in the day. So let's get into today's episode. All right, Mr. Lando, what's going on? How you doing? Thank you for having me. No problem, man. How things have been with you?
SPEAKER_01It's been good, man. Germany has been treating me well. Uh I'm in Berlin now. Hamburg was well. Uh it was pretty good. So I'm good to be here. Nice, nice, bro.
SPEAKER_00Hey, it's the first time. So if um for the people that don't know you, can you tell a little bit about yourself?
SPEAKER_01Yes, sir. Uh, like you said, Lando, I'm from Kangakee, Illinois. Um, I rap, make music, and I'm also a personal trainer. Um, I have a company called Like Magic Studios. Um, two services. Like I said, we do personal training and then uh making music, going around uh right now, open mics. I do a bunch of shows back in Illinois. Um, but just doing an open mic tour out here right now.
SPEAKER_00So nice, bro. All right, open mic tour. No, no, no, no, no. You coming from the states, you out here now. So this is a tour. Take the open mic out of there. So it's official. It's official. Uh it's a tour tour. You know what I mean? Yeah. Wow. So all right, say that name again from Illinois. What's the name? Um, Kankakee. Kanka Key. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's all right if you butcher it.
SPEAKER_01A lot of people do. All right, all right, all right, cool. Because you know, that's a little different.
SPEAKER_00Hold on, so Kankakee.
SPEAKER_01Yep, it's uh about 45 minutes south of Chicago. It's a real small town. Um, everybody knows everybody. I would say it's uh pretty poor area though, like it ain't a lot of money um really going through there. It's all just like factory jobs and them kind of really out of town. Right. Um, but yeah, small, small city though.
SPEAKER_00Ah, okay. Damn, so you you live out there now, man. Yes, yes, sir, yes sir. Kinkiki. So all right, that's you know, I'm always fascinated by people that come from like the middle. Uh yeah, I mean Illinois in the middle, it's in the Midwest.
SPEAKER_01For sure.
SPEAKER_00Right. But like where I don't know where that Kinkaky is, it sounds like it's in the middle somewhere.
SPEAKER_01Nah, it it people, it's funny too, because uh, especially people from the city, like Chicago, that's what we call it the city. They can they kind of be calling it like country. Cause I mean, if you certain parts of it, it is kind of around some cornfield. It is so it do kind of feel like the middle of nowhere if you want to say that. But um, yeah, man, Midwest, Illinois, you already know. Uh everybody comes from the south though. Yeah. So yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but Kangaki, okay, because like I'm always fascinated by people that come from like the, you know, a town like that or so, and then come out to like Europe.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00So like, what was that? What made you come out here, bro?
SPEAKER_01Man, um, so originally, honestly, I got kind of tricked. Um, my boy, my homie uh Julius Burst, he's older than me, but he plays basketball for a team, professional team out here called the Reapers. And I just randomly like messaged them, because I had seen he had had like a game where he scored like 30 or something. I just messaged them like, um, can I perform for do a halftime performance for y'all? And they said, Yeah. They was like, Yeah, uh, do you live here? Do you live in Hamburg? I'm like, no, but I can come out there, um, no problem. And they was like, All right, when you come out here, we'll have a stage ready for you. Got out here and he just read he just opening my messages. Like, he's not he's not replying. They even watching my stories. I'm doing open mics out here. He watching them, and like I'm like, okay, he ain't said nothing back yet though. But so that was that was kind of why I came out here though.
SPEAKER_00Wow, bro. So you DM'd and said, like, let me open for a team I never heard of in a country I've never been in.
SPEAKER_01Random as hell. I kind of didn't, I was kind of like joking, not joking, but like I'm like, man, this could work, but if it don't, it don't.
SPEAKER_00That's a little different. Yeah, yeah. I don't, I mean to even because I guess to find that dude, you knew him or something like that, or whatever. So you kind of you know put all the two and two together, for sure. But like, still though, just to be like, all right, on a whim, let me just go, you know, reach out to them dudes. That that is different, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, thank you, thank you. I mean, shoot. I felt like social media, that's what it's here for. Might as well try it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, but still that's bold though. That's to be like, oh, that's something like, okay, yeah, yeah. You definitely definitely be hustling because uh we'd have just had that thought and be like, yo, I'm gonna hit him up. Like, what?
SPEAKER_01Damn, I ain't never think about it like that, but yeah, you right.
SPEAKER_00Damn, okay. So uh so Illinois, uh, Midwest. So a lot of people that listen to this or so, they may not know about the Midwest and know about the East, East Coast, West Coast, the South. So Midwest, what kind of vibe you say Midwest has?
SPEAKER_01Man, that's what's beautiful about it. This you kind of get like uh a blend of everything. Um, because a lot of people are either moving from different places, because it's kind of it's pretty central, especially Illinois. Like you got uh two of the biggest airports, I believe, like Midway and O'Hare that fly almost everywhere. And like even people that fly throughout the states, like uh normally uh Chicago is like a connecting flight to somewhere. So like a lot of people still come just to visit. Um, but I'll say like you can you can kind of get whatever you want out of there. The food-wise, like you get everything. Um pizza is definitely like D-Dish is the main thing. Um, so that is a that is a fact. That is a fact for sure. And I think and and personally, I'ma I'ma say Chicago pizza over New York.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know. We don't gotta we ain't gotta go there. We ain't gotta go there. Well, you know, look, we start good so far. We start good. Now we know D-Dish was going on, you know what I mean? What's happening?
SPEAKER_01Oh, it's a deep dish pizza, okay. This is the main thing. Um, and then as far as music, um it was, I think I believe it's the birthplace, birthplace for dance, um, dance music, and um a lot of jazz came from there too. So that's why you get like um like Kanye and Common kind of got that like well, at least Kanye when he started, he kind of had that like gospel influence too, because it was just like it's rooted in that kind of music. Ah, okay. Um yeah, that that like I said though, it's a big culture, culture of like Glenn for real. You can kind of find anything and everything in Chicago and Midwest specifically, too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, Midwest, yeah. Because you know, Midwest, I ain't gonna lie, you know, you know, you got Chicago that dominates a lot, right? Right. You know, they got the drill music, all those other people, right? We know uh, you know, the most popular people. Well, I don't know how popular they are out here uh in Germany, but you know, you got the what I mean, you know, Chief Keep of the Oh yeah, you know, he the legend.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he's the legend, yeah. Chief Keep, you know, Rushmore. Everyone loves Sosa, right? Exactly. Love Sosa. Nah, that man, that finally rich. That's a classic album.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. When it's playing on the radio when it first came out, people are like, I weren't the people at the radio studios would be like, yeah, I don't know what he's saying. I don't know why people like it, but we're gonna just put it on.
SPEAKER_01Man, bro. And and it's like, I feel like the world, at least the the United States kind of like, he influenced everywhere. Cause man, people in Cali started wearing dress like crazy, the music everywhere. Like, I even moved to Louisville, Kentucky for a little bit, for a couple years in high school. And people there was like making music like drill. And it's like, this Kentucky, like, yeah. How y'all even making drill music and wearing dress and stuff like that? And the mute the videos like he was making at the time, like with his homies in the house, like just posted up, like everybody doing that now. Like, right, he's really like a big innovator, I think.
SPEAKER_00That shit crazy, like, because even um, you know, even out in uh London, you got Central C. Yeah, you got some of them dudes, and like they sound that type of bounce, that vibe. Exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_01That shit is still here.
SPEAKER_00I don't know what they call it. No, not grime, they call it London, I don't even know, London trap or something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I feel like uh, damn, I thought it might have been grime, but maybe not, maybe not.
SPEAKER_00Grime is like Skepta. Yeah, right, you're right, yeah. Yeah, JMJ or something like that.
SPEAKER_01What did it is it like UK drill? I think they call it UK Drill, yeah. UK drill, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think Drusky came out with a skit about it, remember? Yeah, yeah. And it sounded exactly like some shit that you hear out in the States.
SPEAKER_02Facts, facts, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that's crazy. Okay, so um, was that always because all right, drill music? I ain't gonna lie to you. When I think about music from Chicago, I'm thinking about like, all right, you know, you had your Kanye's, and then before that, you had Common, right? You know, you had Twister. I mean, Twister, I think he blew up around the same time, Kanye. Yeah, like right, right. But was that always like the sound? Like, was that like a sound that was always like in the mix?
SPEAKER_01Um, you mean as far as like was drill always a sound that was in the mix? Or yeah, um I feel like I couldn't I couldn't really say because man, coming up, I feel like Kanye and that kind of music just overshadowed anything. So like me being so young, if it was some drill music out, I wasn't hearing it. Like it was it was pretty much like um backpack type music, backpack type rappers, um, people that was really like trying to tell a story as far as like paint a picture with bars and stuff like that. Um but drill didn't come around, I don't think, until like oh nine in 2010. Yeah, I feel like because nobody even was using that term before Chief Keith came out, right? So um yeah, before that it was all it was all like like gangster music was around, but nah, that wasn't the the the main thing in Chicago though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, because it's like where did that come from? You know what I mean? Cause that drill shit is like so specific.
SPEAKER_01Yes, literally, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's cause I'll be wondering that you know, Chief Keith came out, then like, you know, um Vaughn came out, then like you know, um that whole uh you know what uh O Block joint, like all that.
SPEAKER_01So it's just like yo, where are these motherfuckers coming from? Nah, and it's like a different energy too, like than anything else. Like you feel it different, like when you listen to it, you know what I'm saying? You might want to do something, yeah, and and they do it. They do it do aid and some things for sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'll be listening to the song. I'm like, whoa, am I here? Am I hearing an indictment? Hold on, what's going on? Let me check the zol, bro.
SPEAKER_01They definitely pull some songs in that courtroom. A hundred percent.
SPEAKER_00You be listening to this like, bro, I should not be listening to that.
SPEAKER_01Nah, you're right.
SPEAKER_00Like, I'm not even testifying, but I plead the fifth. I don't even know.
SPEAKER_02Real talk, bro. Real talk.
SPEAKER_00Oh shit. Okay, so Chicago, but um, I mean, even before we get into that, like let's let's just talk about you being out here in Germany, bro, because like that's a big deal. Uh uh-uh, you know, let me not assume, but I'm assuming a lot of dudes from where you from don't be coming out here to Germany on a whim.
SPEAKER_01I ain't heard nobody. I'm the first person that I've heard from my hometown. And shoot my my circle that came even this far just to Europe. Um, but it's it's been a blessing, man. Um, a culture shock for sure, though. Just because I'm gonna be real, like the first thing that threw me off was probably the staring.
SPEAKER_00Talk about it, because some people be like, what's the what's the problem? No, the okay.
SPEAKER_01Like they gonna stare and they not giving your face back. Like they're gonna lose it.
SPEAKER_00Nah, they're gonna give it back at all.
SPEAKER_01And I feel like if if you did that in certain places in America, like people are gonna have a problem. Now they're like, what you looking at? Like, yeah, what's up with that? Like immediately, right? So I that was just like, damn. And then I'm thinking, it's like, is it because I'm black? But I'm like, somebody's like, nah, it's a German thing.
SPEAKER_00It's a straight German thing, bro. It's like, it's like to the point where you be sitting, because again, I I'm assuming, like, I'm assuming it's a rough neighborhood, maybe where you've like little, you know, it's definitely parts, a little rough around the edges, right? Yeah, and when somebody's staring at you, you kind of know why quickly. Yeah, so when it be out here and be like, all right, a minute pass, you be like, so ain't nothing happening.
SPEAKER_01You gonna ask a question, like something.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you walk off like, all right, now now you're thinking like, yo, something on my shirt. Right, literally. What's going on?
SPEAKER_01Little, like, what is what what is wrong with me? Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Damn, it's okay. So the staring messed you up a little bit.
SPEAKER_01I'm getting used to it though now. But um, but yeah, out in Germany, man, like I had said, just to spread the music, um, I dropped a project uh June 1st called Supreme Superlatives. And um a lot of times, like, especially I think up-and-coming artists too, they we release projects and we put it out there, and maybe for that month we post about it and just leave it. But I wanted to end the year off of giving it this right promotion, this right support. So um I wanted to come out here and just do a couple, uh, as many open mics as I can, um, and spread the music, you know what I'm saying, talk to people, network to people as much as I could. That was my whole reason for coming out here. Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER_00I mean, because you know, a lot of people want to think about networking, they think about going to the coast, right? Or the south now. And for you to think about going to a whole different I mean, for one, I would say that's a very uh advanced move right there. Yeah, you know, because a lot of things becoming global, and for you to have that foresight to be like, all right, let me go out here and just like just get in the mix out here, that's a big deal. Like, what made you I I mean, I know you reach out to you know the team and everything, the Reaper Bond, the Reaper team or something, but what made you even start having that thought of bringing your music out here to Europe instead of like the you know the coast?
SPEAKER_01I'm kind of like just even what we spoke on before, like how Central Sea is big now and stuff like that. Like, I just see man, rap is pop now. Like rap is the most popular genre, even even though we I think it's just been like the first time like rap isn't on the billboard charts or something like that. That's it just happened like a couple weeks ago. But rap is popular, man. Like everybody's listening to rap right now. So I just felt like I wanted to get on that wave early. Like I because I don't hear people really like coming out here or just anywhere in Europe until they're like blown up already or they popping.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_01So I'm like, nah, let me just try to do that before. You know what I'm saying? And that was really the process. That was really my thought.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. That's a smart move right there, you know? Cause I ain't gonna lie. When somebody hear somebody going to Germany, especially I ain't gonna lie, it's a black dude coming to Germany. That shit ain't ain't marketed for us. It's not, yeah. You be here, it's cold, yes, it's staring. You think it's all white people in Germany?
SPEAKER_01I definitely did. That was what threw me off too, is like the amount of different um cultures that's out here. I was like, I didn't expect that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that threw me off too. Cause I ain't gonna lie, I thought it was gonna be like one out of a few black people, but when I came out here, I said it another time. I came out here, I was doing like about 10 headnodes a day, bro. I was like, Word, you know, I was like, What's up? There's like what's I'm like, oh, it's out here too.
SPEAKER_01Man, yeah, and I ain't I didn't know too just um how fluent some of uh like a lot of people speak English out here. Like I thought it would be hard to communicate, but people at least understand me and can speak with me a little bit, even like the native speakers here. So I'm like, damn, that's that's it was a lot like it helped ease my way over here. I was like, damn, it's not gonna be as difficult as I thought, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Damn, so okay, so I'm curious what what did you know about Germany before coming out here to Germany?
SPEAKER_01Bro, the stereotypes, man, like, and especially from school, like that that time of learning about world history, I was kind of zoning out. So like I only really know about Germany being like the Nazi Germany and like the World War II history. Like, I don't even really know too much about World War I history. So um, that's all I know is just about Hitler and all that stuff, all that stereotype. Like, I ain't really know nothing about Germany, man. Nothing at all.
SPEAKER_00Damn, so you come out here thinking like, oh okay, I might be entering like some shit.
SPEAKER_01Yes. I think I thought it was gonna be some like some some hatred a little bit for sure. You know what I'm saying? Some but it ain't really been like too crazy as far as racism. Like it ain't been I ain't experienced it too much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, here in Berlin, it's like is Berlin so open. Yeah, you know, because you see some things that you know I mean it's very, very open Berlin. So they even say Berlin is so open, it's not even Germany, because it's just so different. Yeah, because you got so many, like, you know, you got Turkish people, you got people from different, like, you know, Middle Eastern countries, you got black people from all over, you got like, you know, white people from all over, right? So it's just like a mix of that.
SPEAKER_01That makes that makes a hundred percent. That makes sense though. Cause even Hamburg was kind of like that too. It felt like like to me, if I could compare Berlin feels like I ain't even been to New York to even be trying to compare stuff, but Berlin feels like New York, and Hamburg feels like Chicago. Interesting. Yeah, like Hamburg is feels like a it's feels it give me a city vibe, but smaller. Here it's like everything is here, like it's like big here, like everything. So yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Okay, so you came out here to Germany. He's like, I don't know what to think.
SPEAKER_01Man, I was clueless, bro. Clueless.
SPEAKER_00That's another move, too. Yeah, yeah. Okay, so I'm pretty sure you definitely told some of your boys about coming out here. Yeah. And what did they say when you told them you was gonna come out here to Germany?
SPEAKER_01They man, they was like, Germany? Like, are you for what? They that's they was kind of like, what you doing out there, bro? Like, what you really gonna do out there? I'm like, man, you know what I'm on, like I'm pushing this music. Um but they was like, all right, man, but they already know kind of how I am. Like, speaking back on me moving to Kentucky, like I'm I moved around a lot kind of growing up. So like meeting people and just uh having those interactions and just always introducing myself, like it. I'm kind of so used to it now. I was like, man, it can't be too much different like than that. Like, I done did it like five times growing up as a kid when I didn't I didn't been nervous doing that as an adult now. It's like man, I'm just I'm here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, nigga, how different is uh Kentucky to uh Chicago, I mean to uh uh to Illinois for you to be like, I'm gonna go to Germany, I'm gonna figure it out. You was moving. Damn.
SPEAKER_01Man, I'm Kentucky was kind of it was different, but belouvel though, it was a lot more urban than than uh I expected it to be, but shit, just like it was it's just being like coming from like a a more um, I would say like modern or city urban vibe to like kind of a country southern vibe, like that was a that was kind of a big learning experience for me. So I felt like man, let me feel that again.
SPEAKER_00Um yeah, because um, yeah, move I you know, I because I I'm from the East Coast, so we got like perceptions about the Midwest and the South, about like the slow talking, slow moving and stuff. Was that something that you experienced coming from like that, you know, the Midwest and going down? Cause Louisville, Kentucky, that's South.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, they they consider it's uh uh the South, uh like it's not the Midwest for sure. Yeah, so I mean it's it's it's entering the South. I feel like it's like the first one. Um, but yeah, I experienced that, like people uh talking different, um, the slang a lot different, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Uh what they be saying out there, man.
SPEAKER_01Like how we say bro, they like bruh, or like they that's how they say it, bruh. Um then they'll say like um they'll say like I'm ready, I'm ready, go somewhere. Like, that's that's how they talk. Um it's so it's some other stuff if I thought about it too that was crazy, like certain things that that I caught on to though. And it was just like I'm somebody though that was ne I would never shame nobody else for their culture, though. It's just like I always adapt to it, you know what I mean? So yeah.
SPEAKER_00Nah, that's a good way to think about it. It probably was helping you out now. Exactly. So I'm so I'm now I'm curious, you know, you're a rapper, right? And uh, when did you start rapping?
SPEAKER_01I started rapping. Um I actually dropped out of college and bought so I went to Arizona State for a semester.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01And I I dropped, I bought uh studio equipment like for$200 in my dorm. And that was 2017. Um and I kind of started rapping then, but I didn't really know how to work, like none of the pro tools or none of that stuff. I wasn't confident in my voice, so from there, um, I went to a studio in like 2018 and spent like$250 or something like that to like do one song and get it mixed and mastered. And when I heard myself back, I did not like my voice. 2018. So I probably took a took a little time off from there and was just writing a bunch, just like just working on myself. And I wouldn't even record, it was just really like writing raps a bunch from like 2018 till 2023. I dropped my first project in 2023. So officially I'll say 2023 is uh when I started rapping.
SPEAKER_00Wow, bro. I mean, like what first of all, again, I I I'm starting to sense something here that you like to just go, you just like go. Yeah, you don't even wait. You was like, yo, I don't buy$200 worth of equipment. I don't even know how to work pro tools. Man, and like look, as a person that I dabbled a little bit in beat making, for you to start with pro tools and not fruity loops at least, that's a move.
SPEAKER_01Right, right. And that's I ain't know though, man. I was I was so impulsive at the time. Like, I still am, obviously, if I'm here, yeah. But uh just whatever I felt like I wanted to do, man, I did it at the time. Like, that's what that's kind of where my mindset was. Like, even going to Arizona State, man, like I ain't had no big scholarships. Um I graduated from high school in Louisville. Um, that's my my last two years. Like I said, I lived in Louisville. Um, so like to go all the way over there to Arizona, it was like, bro, are you sure you want to do that? My mom was like, Why do you are you gonna leave me that far? I'm like, I gotta do it. I gotta do it.
SPEAKER_00But why? I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Literally, I gotta go see it. I gotta go see it.
SPEAKER_00Damn, yo. I mean, look, I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. Like, yo, going to like, because yo, Fruity Loops is like so easy. So, like, for you to do Pro Tools, you're like, nah, yo, I need to go to the studio. Spend two, it's like, y'all, yo, get yourself a cracked version of Fruity Loops. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01I wish I would have done that, man. That would probably save me so much time. What? So much stress. Because I use Fruity Loops now, though. I mean, it's so much easier. So much easier.
SPEAKER_00They got the little buttons, you can click it, it lights up, it doesn't light up. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Why did I but pro tools came with the uh the equipment that I got though? Uh huh. So that's why I I believe like I went straight to that. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Nigga, pro tools, man. That's just like uh you working like a whole different like language and shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I'm I'm all right. I ain't even open Pro Tools, and I don't even know since when.
SPEAKER_00And you gotta literally you gotta be a pro to use that tool. Tool, yeah. You gotta, you know, pro tools, you know, pro the tool.
SPEAKER_01They say it for a reason.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for real, man. Damn, okay. So you started 2023. So yeah, you you just like you just starting out or whatever. Yeah, and you already making these big moves. That's a big deal, bro.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so what are your influences you say, like, you know, when it comes to music?
SPEAKER_01Um, when it comes to music rappers, uh Wiz Khalifa. Okay. He was my favorite, uh, like my first favorite rapper. Like my first CD I ever involved with a Wiz Khalifa rapper. I I told my mom, like, rolling papers, I need that. I I wasn't thinking about weed or nothing. You told your mom? Yes, I need that.
SPEAKER_00Give me rolling papers. What do you mean rolling papers? No, no, no, no. The album. I'm talking about the album.
SPEAKER_01The album, but she she got it for me. Funny thing is, it was it from Walmart, so I don't know if Know Walmart got the clean versions. It's like no one got dirty versions. I don't know if they do now, but at the time he dropped that in 2011, it was all it was clean. So I'm listening to it like damn, I want the dirty version. Damn. But uh the first album, Wiz Bleeper.
SPEAKER_00I mean, and you support it, which is dope. Cause I ain't gonna lie. I'm pretty sure at the time there was uh what that pip was probably out. Yes, yes, it was. So, like, yeah, you was like, No, let me buy the actual CD. You need a C D. He was like, nah, no Limewire, no.
SPEAKER_01I was on Limewire at the time, but no, I need that, I need the full official. Ah, okay. So Whiz uh and Wale. Um Wale is my my second favorite. Um it's kind of like 1A, 1B, like because Wale, I think to me, he's like the best rapper. He he can out rap anybody to me, like that's in that generation.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's a good rapper.
SPEAKER_01Man, he be barring people up, his flow is crazy. So Wiz and Wale is be my two like main inspirations and influences.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, nice, bro. Nice, man. So because yeah, those influences like Whiz Klee, for you know, he's from what Pittsburgh, right? You know, Wale from DC. So those like distinct, different type of styles that is not really Chicago. So that's like very interesting that you have you pull for those two people and then you know bring it all together. So your flow must be like very, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, a hundred percent. I think uh that's what a lot of people say too, like um I'm I kind of out the box, like even as a person though, because I can remember growing up, I remember my sophomore class, like it was some business computer class we had, and we had to make an Excel sheet, and on it was like favorite food, favorite, blah, blah, blah, and favorite rapper. And I remember putting Wale. One of my homies was like, Wale, like who listened to Wale? I'm like, damn, bro, what you mean? He's crazy rapper. Like, what you mean? But coming up during that time, like my sophomore year, that's when drill was at its like peak, though. So you know what I'm saying? Chief Keefe, Lil' Dirk, Herb, like all of them was kind of so popular, like listening to Wale and stuff was like, what? Like, that's kind of different, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that must be so interesting, bro. So you must have been like um like an anomaly, you know.
SPEAKER_01It kind of was, bro. Like, I didn't I love all of that music too, but when I'm by myself, I was listening to that. Like, like I said, Wiz and Wale and a bunch of other, like J. Cole, Kendrick. Um, that's kind of what my my ears was at. Right.
SPEAKER_00You know, it wasn't look, and look, that's a sensible thing. When you really think about it, if somebody listening to drill by themselves in their room, it's like that's like a black version of a school shooter that's about to do something. You know what I mean? For real, though. For real. You know, you just like in the head, just going, you're like, yo, hey, I don't like like real talk. But that shit I don't like. You black, you gotta knock on this door, be like, hey, eh, eh, hey, you got any friends? No, I'm just by myself. Nah, you gotta get your friends to listen to this music. Nah, real talk though. Yeah, you're gonna you're gonna be sad listening to that. That's that shit I don't like.
SPEAKER_01It's like, well, what you don't like, pressing as hell. But our folks would keep though. No, no, no disrespect, So yeah, no disrespect, man. He's out there in California now. You see, he had exactly he left it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he making he made he he making complete sentences now on on interviews, right? You know, man, came came a long way. He used to skip interviews, yeah. He used to be like, you know, just mumble and shit. Man, he speaks clearly now. Yeah, he's like, Yeah, I think that uh California uh gives me a nice uh perspective. I'm like, whoa, mature, mature. Check you out using the word perspective. All right, check you out.
SPEAKER_01Shout out to him, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah. All right, so damn, you out here in Germany, you doing your thing and stuff like that. So um, I guess in you know, with Europe and stuff, right? I think in America, we have this concept like Europe as like this one big place, yes, or so. Did you have like any countries or so that came to mind, like aside from Germany, that you all that you just came to mind before coming to Europe, like y'all want to know what this is about?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, uh Italy for sure. Um, because one of my close homies, Nico, he's Italian. Um, and uh when I'm at his house, like their their culture is like is they they they it speaks like it's loud, you know what I'm saying? That Italian culture, like from the food they make, even like the way they talk, like I think his parents um might be like the first um of their generation to come over here or whatever. So um just talking with him and learning from them, uh Italy was always one. And then me being a pizza imposter lover, like that that's so simple, but I definitely wanted to check that out. Um and then the UK, just because obviously London is just so popular, you know what I'm saying? Um those are just the two though. UK and Italy was pretty much the only ones that I really even like knew about for real or knew anything about.
SPEAKER_00And it's right there too. I mean, you know, now that you're out here, you kind of figure it out. It seems like for me, I don't know, for people that I know, it just becomes a thing where you just come back out. You just like, oh all right, like I'm surviving, ain't like I have to exactly it's probably better to know how to speak the language, but you know, obviously English everyone speaks, so you don't have to like have to know it to like maneuver. Yes, so that's dope. So right now in Germany, um, you know, you told me that you stay in a hostel right now, so like that. And how is that? Because that is uh that is not an American thing, that is a European thing for real.
SPEAKER_01All right, man. Shouts out to Nico because he the one that told me, like, man, you can stay in hostels for cheap. Yeah, of course, of course, of course he would say that. That's what he does all out here, bro. Um it's been a journey. It's been a journey, bro.
SPEAKER_00This motherfucker only been out here a couple days is a journey.
SPEAKER_01Look, the hamburg one, I stayed somewhere called the generator uh hamburg.
SPEAKER_00Okay, generator's not bad, yeah.
SPEAKER_01And that it was like thankfully, like they was clean, even the one here is clean. So that that was my main thing I was like scared about. Like, man, is these places gonna be clean? It's so cheap to stay. Like, um, but like staying in in a room with like six up to six people was something I had never really did before, like that, especially like traveling, like hell no, I'm not doing that. Like, but it's been fun though, because it's like it automatically forces you to kind of at least introduce yourself so you're gonna meet some people. But the hostel's been it's it's been funny though, because it's like these bathrooms tight as hell, the bed's like small, the comforters small as hell, like but it's been it's been cool though, man. I feel like it's been real humbling. Um, it's been forcing me to like get out the house too, or get out the hostel. I'm not gonna stay in the hostel and just sleep in my bed all day. Uh uh.
SPEAKER_00Six people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, man. You got and then people coming from all different parts of the world. Um, they got their own way of living, you know what I'm saying? Just really, really respecting people, uh, respecting the smells.
SPEAKER_00Uh you be very diplomatic. I like it. He's like, it's been a journey, a lot of different ways of life. Like, yeah, that sounds like somebody snoring too loud.
SPEAKER_02Oh, 100%, bro.
SPEAKER_00Somebody, somebody just uh walking around with underwear. He's like, all right, what's going on, bro? You don't even know anybody in here. You just walking with drawers on. Man, bro.
SPEAKER_01Man, talking on the phone. Man, just the other day, um, it was some guy, he was on the phone, he's an India guy. He's talking from for like an hour straight, but loud as hell. And after every sentence, he gets us like some cough. Like he's like, he's talking, talking, talking, talking, talking. I'm like, bro, like you good? Are you sick, or is that just like you know what I'm saying? But I try not to rub on nobody's toes too much, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00He's like, I just got here, I ain't trying to get sick at all.
SPEAKER_01Damn, bro. Please don't tell me you sick.
SPEAKER_00Like, well, hour coughing. That would have I would have been like a little bit.
SPEAKER_01I'm not exaggerating, bro. He talked for an hour loud as hell on the phone and coughing his ass off. I'm like, chill, bro. Damn, bro.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, you learn about different cultures immediately. What? Wow, you're getting like a cultural crash course.
SPEAKER_01Yes, a hundred percent. Even the the guy that I'm staying with now, um, can't remember his name, but uh, he's from Nigeria. The other guys, he's from here. So, yeah, like you say, like, man, a culture blend.
SPEAKER_00Wow, bro, that is dope. I mean, yeah, cause to that is like a that, yeah, that is not an American thing at all. If anything, the only thing I knew about hostile before I stayed on was the uh that movie, hostel.
SPEAKER_01Yes, I love that though. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_00Good movie in real life. I was afraid. I'm like, yo, a little kid is gonna cave my head in with a pipe.
unknownRight, right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm like, let me not go in no alleyway with cobblestones. Nah. Or like four or five little kids jump me, one have a pipe, just real talk, though. Just hit me right over the head. Real talk. Yeah, but hostels, man. Oh, okay. So hostels, and you also said you was connecting with people too, right? Like they're telling you where the party's at and everything, right?
SPEAKER_01Yes, because uh in Hamburg, um, I went to this specific skate shop that's kind of popular as far because I watch like skate videos, just like in my passing time. Like if I'm listening to music or if I don't want to like literally watch something, I just throw in a skate video. And it's this place called Mantis Skate Shop in Hamburg. And I went there and I just wanted to just see what it was like in person. And um they were so welcoming, bro. They played my music in the shop. Like the owner of the shop, he was there. He uh shouted me out on his Instagram and uh played my music, and uh they introduced me to some of the workers. So I had met with one of the workers, um, Eric, and he was like, Man, I'm gonna show you around. He guided me uh like another day, took me to to like some exclusive uh places, like some of his favorite foods, different places he hangs out. So um, yeah, they it's definitely been um like welcoming, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, no, especially when you coming out from the States and you got music and you like you got some type of like you know, dedication, motion or whatever. Yeah, they with it. They be like, all right, cool, like yeah, let me show you around. I think you're a cool person. So they really open out here when it comes to, you know, like meeting somebody new, especially somebody they connect with.
SPEAKER_01Man, that was great. And I that was something I didn't expect. I thought I was gonna have to like really work hard to try to like network the music, but man, that shit was so easy. Like, they like they wanted me to be out here, it felt like I was like, all right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so you probably like shit, I need to come back.
SPEAKER_01Man, what I'm thinking, I'm thinking now, like, what which week am I coming in the summer? And how long am I gonna stay?
SPEAKER_00Summertime is good time, bro. Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately came during the winter time, right? So winter time a little bit different. Yeah, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01100%. Yeah, but I feel like too, even coming in the winter, um, with it being my first Europe trip, my first solo trip, I think it was better to come in the winter because now I it might be something to look forward to in the summer. It might somehow like I could think it's gonna be even better.
SPEAKER_00That's a good point, yeah. Actually, that's a good point because then um you already having good experiences when it's cold, so then it's just only gonna go up from there. Right, right. Yeah, because I mean summertime, bro, yeah, it is different. Yeah, uh, it's like every country or every city in Europe changes, okay. Like to a level where you're like, oh wow, I didn't know people could act this way out here. You know what I mean? I got you. But you're already having a good experience out here, so then yeah, it's gonna all gonna work out. Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. In what ways do you do would you say that like it changes here, specifically in Berlin? Like changes, yeah. Like the one once it turns summer, like you like as far as the people, like how different do they get?
SPEAKER_00Oh, yeah. I mean, first of all, they open, they talk more. So, like, you know, the more smiling. That's good to hear. Yeah, no one's you know, because everyone here they walk a little stiff, you know, to kind of like go into where they need to go. Yeah, it's summertime, bro. Like people have parks. You see people open, they're out and about. They even got parts of the park where people be naked. So, like, yeah, I think it's like um copper fry or something like that, like body free or something like that. Had to check that out, yeah. Yeah, I mean, yeah, depending on which park, you know. Not yeah, not all parks have the right type of you know, nakedness.
SPEAKER_01Uh somebody ain't gonna want to see you.
SPEAKER_00And you're gonna be in there be like, damn, I know the human body can uh grow like that.
SPEAKER_02Hell no.
SPEAKER_00You could be like, oh, this is different. For sure, for sure. Yeah, so you be walking, you know, you be chilling, walking the park. There's no signs, by the way. So you walking and you just walk, you be like, yo, is that somebody naked? Yeah, you see somebody bare ass, you'd be like, oh, you be like, oh, should have warned me a little bit. Yeah, and you just walking, it'd be like a regular path, you know what I mean? So you know, you got that. Um, you know, a lot of outdoor parties, and you just feel like everyone's outside, like outside, like even parks, it'd be like a vibe at a park. Gotcha. So like it's just outdoorsy in a way that you wouldn't think a city would be. You know?
SPEAKER_01I got you. Man, I believe that too because another roommate from a hostel, he's he's gone now, but he's from the Netherlands. He moved here though, but he said we we he we went out to one of my open mics, and we were down by like the TV tower. Oh, and it's somebody named Mr. Berlin that's here. It's some older guy that brings like a karaoke speaker, and he just rapping, singing songs, like out in the public. Mr. Berlin. Mr. Berlin. And uh he knew about the guy. Like he was like, he had told me about him before we even went up, went to the open mic, and we just happened to see this dude. And this dude is cold as shit, obviously, outside. He going hard though, like singing, he interacting with the crowd, like all this stuff. Damn. And um, I'm like, damn, he's doing this in the cold like this, it's freezing. I know he's turning up in the summer. Like, I know I know he has to.
SPEAKER_00You bring a speaker, you start turning up, people come around. You know, they even got that thing where what it called busking, where you know, you put a hat down and people start giving you money. Yeah, yeah. So, like, and people make you know money off of that, like for real. Okay, to a level to where they can sustain themselves and keep on going. Okay, so like, yeah, when uh summertime is just different out here.
SPEAKER_01I'll say man, I believe it. I believe it though. Cause I'm sitting here like, man, I'm cold as hell. You ready to go? But like, he was so he was entertaining, and I mean he was entertaining, but everybody around was like waiting to they they wanted next song, next song. I'm like, man, this is crazy.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, support for music out here a little different. Yes, yes, yeah. It's probably you probably shocked, like, word, man, bro.
SPEAKER_01Everybody, if it's under 50 degrees, everybody's trying to go in the crib in the house, at least back in the Midwest for sure. Like, ain't nobody trying to be outside, like, especially for music they don't know about, right? Exactly. Like, come on now, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00It's wild. So you you you say you went out a little bit while you did open mics and stuff like that, but you have you gone to like any like like bars or yeah, I went to uh here, I went to the Matrix um early this week.
SPEAKER_01Um uh, I don't know how how you say the neighborhood, but fried rich shenan uh yeah, yeah, Friedrich Shine.
SPEAKER_00Okay, yeah. I mean too much. I like that word. I said I said that too fast. I I don't know how I felt about that. I was like, Friedrich Shine. I'm like, oh damn. You speak German? I uh yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Einvision, as they say. Einvision, a little. Okay, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um, so yeah, I went there though in that neighborhood, and they played like pretty modern music. There was a lot of hip hop they was playing. Um, it was uh somebody's birthday in the hostel that we were celebrating. So nice. Um that's what we went out for. So I've been there. Um, and then like the other ones has just been bars for the open mics. Like I ain't really went to no other clubs, but that's that's been it. And it was fun though. Like it's funny too, cuz the outside of the door, whatever, they like open seven days a week. 20, like I don't think it said 24 hours, but seven days a week, I'm like, damn, y'all don't close at all.
SPEAKER_00Like, yeah, it'd be like that. You know, they even got clubs out here where people they'll come in on a Friday and then they won't leave until like that Sunday or Monday. So literally they come in from a different city and they just stay there. Damn, and like these clubs sometimes got like a couch or they got like places where people can sleep, so it'd be like a situation. Yeah, bro.
SPEAKER_01Party scene out here is a real party, like that's crazy, bro. And it's light too. They used to be crazier back in there.
SPEAKER_00I heard like 10 years ago, so it used to be crazier. Wow, yeah, like crazy.
SPEAKER_01I can't imagine it getting crazier, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I mean, man, you you know, we we talked about off air, but like, you know, a little bit of these clubs that be having little things that happen in there, bruh. I hadn't heard of that one.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, what they doing? What? This and that.
SPEAKER_00It's real. I got a couple friends that have been there, and and it and it is like you go inside, order a drink, and then you look down, you see somebody getting it just, you know, get somebody, you know. Man, what? Yeah, orgy park clubs, orgy clubs girl be on a swing, eight dudes be, you know, I mean, in there, you'd be like, Oh, and you just getting a bit, you just walking around.
SPEAKER_01Bro, I almost like don't believe it though. Like, I almost want to see it to believe that shit.
SPEAKER_00And that's your real because you be talking to people and they'd be like, How's your weekend? Yeah, I went to kick. Oh, yeah. So what was happening out there? They tell you casually.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_00You be like, Whoa, hey, what? And then other people like, yeah, that's what happens. Yeah, you know, and everyone's so casual about it. You'd be like, hold on. Man, yeah, that it took me a while for me not to like be outwardly like, like, kind of like shocked. Yeah. Because at first you'd be like, yo, yo, what? Like exactly.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying not to like feel like a newbie or sound like you could tell I'm like not from here when it when they say that stuff. And I I it come off every time I'm like, that should be different.
SPEAKER_00But you be like, hold on, hold on. So you mean and it and then again, like, because you be feeling crazy because you're the only one shocked. You be like around a group of people, and you be the only one be like, yo, so hold on. So you trying to stay, yeah, you at you asking follow-up questions, everyone's trying to like move the question along. Be like, yeah, so isn't it cold today? Like, it's getting colder. I thought last year was not this cold. Nah, fuck that. What's happening? Yeah, you like, hold on, who was on a swing? Who was in the pool, and how many?
SPEAKER_01Literally, bro. I need all them details.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, let me know.
SPEAKER_00They'd be casual about it. You'd be like, my bad. Sorry, I was interrupting what y'all was talking about. What's what's going on with the weather?
SPEAKER_02Real talk, bro.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean? So, yeah, but so now, yeah, you're out here, and it's because I'm always just thinking, like, how it'd be crazy if people will come from like the middle of America and then come out here. And you know, again, just hearing what you're saying, like about you, the music, the influences. Also, too, I ain't gonna lie, like you saying you're into skating, you watch skating on your off time. So that's that is not as different as it was probably well, I don't know, when with like skating, like, was that something you're always into?
SPEAKER_01Um, I was always into it, but I never really skated just because playing sports. Um, well, first of all, it the skate culture uh kind of died like when I was coming up in Kanka Key specifically. Like we had one uh big skate shop, but it closed down. It was like on the main street that's in our town, but it closed down. Um, and then after that, like we had a couple skate parks, but them started getting closed down. So once I got to age of skating, like it I didn't even skate, like it wasn't really there for me. And then playing sports, I feel like you'd be nervous, you're gonna break something. Cause I play basketball, so um, I didn't really skate, but I always played the game. Like Tony Hawk games was my favorite games, bro. Yeah, all of them was my favorite. Um, and then just watching, like I said, watching skate videos, like I've been doing that. Um, so yeah, like that I feel like it in itself was already kind of different from like black culture though. Like, you know what I'm seeing? So like I would it was it was never like like the culture shock thing was just I was used to it. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like being different. I was used to being different, I should say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I ain't gonna lie to you. It's something that's important to bring up is that that Tony Hart Pro skater, I think that thing really broke the mold for like black people and skateboarders.
SPEAKER_02Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The nigga when that shit came out, bro.
SPEAKER_00I was a skateboarder. I used to watch the X games and shit. I was like, yo, that's a that's a that's a 920. Oh my god, you know, that's a kickflip. I'm talking out the shit.
SPEAKER_01Real talk, bro. It definitely, like you said, it it broke that down because I ain't know no skaters for real before that. Like, I ain't like I ain't know no tricks or nothing, but I'm learning it all through the game. I'm beating the game five times.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they had them, they had them songs too. You start memorizing them songs now, right? Um, you know, you gotta wash your ass if you must, or else you be funky, you know, all that weird shit. Yeah, even some rock songs. Yeah, I'm hearing that shit. I'm like, yo, come doing kick flips, you know.
SPEAKER_01This is whole, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know, do a kick flip. I'm like, oh shit, yo, you know. I'm like, damn, I'm really listening to this shit. Right. Yeah, Tony R Pro Skater. Damn, yo. Yeah, Tony Pro Skater one, two, three.
SPEAKER_01I just beat three to other like a few months ago. I got like I still got my PlayStation 2. Like, I don't I don't got a P5, I got a PlayStation 2 still. I still play that shit. Oh, you a different nigga.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, hold on, bro.
SPEAKER_01Wait, wait, yes, sir. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. PlayStation 2, I'm never giving that up.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we gotta break it down because PlayStation 2, one of the best consoles ever out there, right? You know, first of all, how the hell you still got that thing working? Because, like, you know, that we're in that little thing that you try to put the CD in and then it ain't scanny, or got that red screen of that or some shit. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01No, it it it if it don't work, it'll just go, it'll make that loud ass noise, and then it'll just go to like the main menu. It don't even go to the game. But uh I this PlayStation 2, it's not the same one that I had though. I I bought it from like a uh something like vintage stop or something like thrift store that we got back in Kanga Key. Um, but it still worked though. That thing still works, bro. I still got I got I bought a lot of games for it, like NBA Live 05, like NBA Street uh Volume 2. Oh, NBA Street? I got one and two.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, you have oh best game, bro.
SPEAKER_01NBA Street is crazy.
SPEAKER_00You having a good time.
SPEAKER_01It's so nostalgic.
SPEAKER_00Oh NBA Street volume one and two. You put NFL Street?
SPEAKER_01Yes, I got I got the third one with Chad Ochocinko on it. Yep, yep.
SPEAKER_00Oh, NFL Street. That's another one right there. Oh my god, bro. When that was out, Madden, I don't know how Madden was doing then, but didn't get I didn't care about it.
SPEAKER_01NFL Street.
SPEAKER_00You you doing all those tricks and everything, you know.
SPEAKER_01What I'm saying, bro, I could jump off the wall. Why do I want to play with a full line and 11 people, bro? Yeah, right quarterback, running back, and the wide receiver, right?
SPEAKER_00The center. That's all I need. And the actual field was like, well, like probably like, you know, I don't know, like 20 yards. Like it's not even that big.
SPEAKER_01Exactly, exactly. They doing it in uh like parking lots and all this type of stuff. Like, come on now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you just you just score back to back. Game be fucking 90 to 70 or something.
SPEAKER_01You got game breakers, you running through the whole team, like right, you know, you can do combinations and shit like that.
SPEAKER_00You know, you put all right up, up, down, left, right, or some shit. You do some, you know.
SPEAKER_01That's games to me, bro. Like, don't get me wrong, like 2K and all that is fun, but like a true game, I'm doing tricks, you know what I'm saying? Like, it's it should be like it shouldn't be real, right? I shouldn't be able to do this in real life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, you you running routes and shit. You by damn, y'all feel like an actual coach, yo. You know, I ain't gonna lie, yeah, you gotta be playing mad. You gonna be like, all right, so what route? This and that, who's this best person?
SPEAKER_01Advanced now, like these people is crazy. Like knowing formations and all that.
SPEAKER_00Right now, now they got them simulators, you know, like where you on well, I mean it had it even on uh even what NBA. Ballers that have something where you like that little career mode joint. Yes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's like the whole game, really, right? I was gonna say, yeah, I but I like that game though a lot. Mm-hmm. I think it was like 1v1. Ah, right. Oh, right. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so that actually was good. Yeah, because he had something that was trying to really lean into that. Okay, let's manage this person's career. Yep. You'd be like, all right, you know, I'm not really into basketball this much to really be like, all right, what's the cap table? This and that, whatever.
SPEAKER_01You trying to form a dynasty and all this.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, you gotta worry about the GM and like all the regulation. All this extra stuff, man. Like, yeah, I ain't trying to be the actual agent. What's going on? This is crazy. You know what I mean? Or G on GM. Yeah, it's crazy. But damn, yo, that's that's a throwback right there. PS2. All right, so yeah, this is this kind of helped me shape like who you are as a person. Yeah, for sure. Got a vintage PS2, bro.
SPEAKER_01Bro, and I feel like that that does go with my whole personality. Like, people say, like some of my clients that I trained, they say I got an old soul. Um, my both of my parents, though, they was born in the 60s. So I got like older parents compared to my friends.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so yeah. How did that affect you?
SPEAKER_01Man, uh shit. Growing up, like, it was it's funny because like my parents, they didn't really like know what was going on, like, with of today's time. So like I was always to myself. But I got an older brother that's 11 years older than me, so like I would connect with him, but my parents was just always out the loop with shit. So like it was just just me. Like, I was just really like loving. I guess that made me like love everything that I was into even more though, because it was like just me interacting with it at home and stuff like that. Um, my parents though, like they kind of had old school ways, like they'll let me go to my friend's house, but you ain't staying the night, like you know what I'm saying. But I'm like, oh, my friends can stay, like all their parents cool about it. You know what I'm saying? They like, nah, we ain't doing that. Like, I don't know them like that. Like that type of shit. So yeah, it was it was it was kind of like stricter a little bit compared to my friends, but it was cool though. I feel like it made me, it made me who I am today, so I ain't complaining. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Interesting. So, yeah, also you say you do personal training as well.
SPEAKER_01So, how'd you get into that? Um, uh my first job when I left school and all that, um, my first like main job that I stuck with, because it was a hella job like fast food and all that, but the first one that I was with for a while was a YMCA job. I was a sports specialist, as they call it. And that's really was just like running the programs there, like the youth sports programs, making sure everything is flowing, you know what I'm saying? The practices, coaches are showing up, players are showing up. And in doing that, especially in Kankakee, you're gonna have coaches that don't show up to practices and stuff like that, and the sports specialist fills that role. So I will be doing that and just like coaching and and like helping these kids develop like in these sports, and I'm like, bro, I could do this like on my own. Like, I don't have I can do this one-on-one in my way. So um, I took a six-month course and got certified for personal training. And after ever since then, after that, I quit the YMCA and was just training on my own.
SPEAKER_00Wow, bro. So you train and you say you do virtual virtual training, yep.
SPEAKER_01Like, shoot, uh, yesterday I had two sessions. Um three sessions actually yesterday. So yeah, I do virtual training if I'm traveling, but um, I do in-person training back in Kankito too.
SPEAKER_00Wow, bro. So you do verse so you working from home first what? Yes, sir. Is that so how what so what like how does that even work? Like virtual training, uh working out that's how.
SPEAKER_01So it it thankfully, everybody that I'm virtual training with now, I began in person. So we already kind of got that trust. Um, but virtual training, you have to be really good with your cues, your coaching cues, because you're not, you can't really be there to move a person. So, like, for example, like we're doing a bench press. Um, a lot of people will go like they arms straight 90 degrees out. And it's I'll have to tell them, like, no, you gotta tuck it like 45 degrees, you know what I'm saying, in the middle. You don't want to be close to the body, you don't want to be super far out. So things like that, you really just gotta like know how to cue people into the right positions. Um, but outside of that, man, it's it's the same. Like, it's just guidance, you know what I'm saying? You're just guiding that person through that session. Um, normally it's like 30 to 45 minutes. I think one hour on the phone or tablet is a little bit too long. So pretty long, yeah. But uh, yeah, it's it's just like that, bro. Just like that.
SPEAKER_00Damn, so hold on. Because virtual that requires the other person to set up the camera in a certain way, too. So you probably gotta teach people how to like, you know.
SPEAKER_01Oh, 100%, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yo, you could be a content creator, bro. You're teaching people how to set the angle right, make sure they you know stabilize, you know, make sure the sound is good, the lighting.
SPEAKER_01It's been so many times though, early, early on, like I couldn't hear people or not even just the hearing. Um, they would set it up at an angle where like I can't see their full body. I'm like, all right, come on. Let's what we doing here? What we doing here, bro? Yeah, so yeah, uh, I pretty got I got used to that now though. But yeah.
SPEAKER_00Damn, did anyone ever try to cheat you? Like on some, you know, they do an exercise, but they try to set up the angle in a way where you can't catch it.
SPEAKER_01Bro, a thousand percent. Or um they do it every my man, my my client, the carry right now, that's my boy. But whenever we warm up, he'll always like do half of his body. You know what I'm saying? So I can't see see what them legs doing or something like that. I'm like, come on, bro. They do doing like half squats.
SPEAKER_00They're like, nah, all yeah, you gotta really push-ups. I ain't seen, nah, you ain't really, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01And that'd be the thing, it'd be the push-ups for him. Like, it'd be on the ground, and it's like I can only see his head. I'm like, nah, I need to see if your whole body is going down.
SPEAKER_00You wanna go on the knees? You'd be like, all right, one, two, all right, I'm at 50. How much I do? How much more?
SPEAKER_02Like, real talk, bro. Damn, okay, damn.
SPEAKER_00So you damn you do music, you do the you do uh the the personal training. Yes, sir. So do you find that to be a hard balance between the two?
SPEAKER_01Um honestly, no, because with personal training, I can create my own schedule. So I've I've pretty much balanced it out to where when I'm training, I try to get them all within a certain amount of time. So once I'm done training for that day, I'm free enough to do my music. And honestly, I feel like for me personally, I need to do both because uh I feel like the training kind of fun it's been fun, it's been funding my music this whole time. I ain't really been making too much music or money off of music. So uh the personal training has been keeping me afloat. So, you know what I'm saying? They kind of go hand in hand. And the company that I own, like Magic Studios, it's the hub of all of it. So like whenever I'm introducing training to somebody, it's under Like Magic Studios' name. Whenever I'm going with the music, it's like Magic Studios. So it all feels like one really.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so tell me about Magic Studios and what that is about, your business.
SPEAKER_01Um Like Magic Studios, it's a two-service company. Um started in 2023. Um once I had left the YMCA, I came up with that name. It kind of is a play on with my name, Orlando, like Orlando Magic, the NBA team. But also when I was training people, um especially like people that if they had like an injury or even like weight loss clients, like once they got it off, it would be like, man, this is like magic. Or like the the feeling that they would get, like when they were healed or whatever, they'd be like, Man, this feel like magic or something like that. So it was like, man, yeah, let me tag that. Let me go ahead and keep that. Um so yeah, that's how that started. Um, and I had I have a website and all that. I got a Patreon, all my social medias, like they can find this like magic studios. I don't even got my my name. It's like magic studios, it's my app. So yeah, that's that's that's what that is. That is dope, bro, man.
SPEAKER_00Cause yeah, you manage a lot of different things there. And also, too, having that, because you know, sometimes it comes to music, especially like rapping, that people always got that, you know, go all in and plan A, you know, plan B type stuff. And we never know about the people who did that and didn't go, you know, that plan A didn't work. We don't hear about it.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_00So it's good that you balancing yourself out between the two. And you know, you're able to work from anywhere, really, which that is in itself like dope, bro.
SPEAKER_01It's been beautiful, it's been what I needed. And even with what you just said too, like all artists gotta stay healthy. Like, you know what I'm saying? Going on tour, we see it a lot, these these artists getting sick, canceling shows and stuff like that. So I feel like regardless, everybody's gonna have to work out every week of their life. Like, you can't, yes, you can have some rest, but like even stretching is working out, you know what I'm saying? Even warming up, like we don't gotta lift weights to work out. So, like, you're gonna have to be physically fit to be healthy. So I feel like it's never gonna leave me, regardless. Regardless, I'm gonna need it.
SPEAKER_00And that's so important you say that too, especially for artists being like healthy. Because, you know, again, take that for we take that for granted all the time, especially artists. So, like, for you to even have that, that's yeah, that's support. I mean, even for me, I like I love working out, yeah. So, like, you know, a little a little something, you know what I'm saying? You know, I'll I you know I carry boxes up and down once in a while, groceries, you know. But you know, like working out, because it helps me out with like, you know, you're on a road, and sometimes you go see these different countries, different foods and stuff, and like just having that awareness of your body of when something's about to happen, or just having the what a uh general physical preparedness for it. Uh, even like what going to carrying a book bag up and down these stairs, these cobblestones, carrying book bags on cobblestones, that is not regular road.
SPEAKER_01Uh exactly that that uneven balance that you're gonna have, like yeah, every time, every time. And people don't realize stuff like that, like those everyday movements, like you lose what you don't use. So if you're not working on your core, you know what I'm saying, just slightly, your back is gonna pull at some point in your life. At some point, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_00Like, you're going up and down them stairs too, because you know, out here they ain't got that many escalators or elevators.
SPEAKER_01I see that a lot.
SPEAKER_00Oh, so you gotta really be walking for real.
SPEAKER_01100%, bro.
SPEAKER_00I mean, if your legs ain't up to par, your your your trip is cut short.
SPEAKER_01Real talk, real talk. Shoot, a lot of people with these knee problems. Like, it could be cured if you stay active. A lot of people think like they got lower, lower limb problems, like I'm just rested. Like, nah, this it's let's address the problem. Like you know what I mean? Yeah, let's see what's going on with it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, man, that's dope that you got all those things all figured out. A lot of people don't until it's too late. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like the whole health thing, the all right, like making sure that's all up, you know, up to par, and then the music, and then making sure I got like a at least something if like fuel my like art or so, because you know, out here, especially nowadays, it it is it things have changed a lot, yeah. You know, especially with music and how to advertise yourself, how to market yourself. Like, I mean, how have you been marketing or advertising yourself and just like changing world, social media and everything?
SPEAKER_01Man, staying true to myself first and foremost, I feel like I stand out that way. Simply because like most rappers, um, when it comes to marketing, it's pretty braggadocious or it's like what I got, um money and all that, you know what I'm saying? Um and while we all need that, um I feel like instead of trying to market like what I got, let me market you what I can service you. So that's why like through social medias, like man, I'm spreading out through like sessions. I'll post like certain sessions that I got, or when it comes to the music, like just showing like what I'm doing. Like even being out here in Germany, I've been posted many vlogs like just me and being out here. So it's really like just showing who I am and my day in the life type of thing. That's really like how I market it myself, just being true to myself. Like, I feel like I get the best reactions that way, you know? Yeah, for a fact.
SPEAKER_00I mean, you know, also too, you coming from where you're coming from and being out here, that in itself is a big deal. Yeah, like every time I see somebody come out, like you know, I know a couple black um dudes that are out here from the states and like more like say from Arizona, yeah, or from like this one dude, he's like from Mississippi or something, and like them being out here, I'm like, yo, bro, you know how much of a big deal that is, right? Even for me, I mean, you know, I lived in New York City, Jersey, Philly, all these places, stuff, but like still they be like, yo, because Germany, bro, that that's that's not us, that ain't a place for us to go from the states over here. Like it's like all right, at least uh a France, Spain, yeah, you know, like UK, but like we can go all the way out to Germany gonna be like, hey, yo, what the like you good, bro? Like, what you into? You know what I mean? Exactly. They're looking at you different.
SPEAKER_01Like, I ain't I ain't expecting for you to be that type of dude. Right. They like, I don't maybe I don't know you like I thought I did. Yeah, I don't know. You know the buttons. What you doing out there?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't know what you're doing out there. He fucking around with them white people, I don't know what the fuck.
SPEAKER_01100%, bro. 100. I'm getting that already.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, not knowing that there's a lot of black people out here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's what I didn't expect, man. Just uh the amount of black people, the amount of different cultures and ethnicities out here, too. Like the first when I first landed in Frankfurt, that's when my flight landed. Um, I I just went to see because I had a long layover before my train left. And I just hopped on a bus and just rode around. And the first guy to talk to me was Turkish. And I just was like, damn, I didn't expect that. Like, I definitely expected a German to talk to me, you know. Yeah, so yeah, very diverse out here.
SPEAKER_00Yes, even the food out here in Berlin. Like you got Vietnamese food, so much food. You got like even um what you got southern food actually. They got this dude who makes like good chicken and waffles out here, cornbread and everything. He's actually from Tennessee.
SPEAKER_02Oh, wow, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So he's from Tennessee. I like to write that down. Yeah, I think it's called um damn forgot the name of the uh place, man. I wish I uh I feel so bad.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but send that to me later if you do think about that.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's in Noikona, whatever. Very good food, bro. Like it's it, yeah. He's from the you know, he's from the south and he cooks. Okay, so like he knows and everything, right? Or you know, you got African food out here, you got like Persian food, you got Turkish food, you got like uh, you know, like so many different foods out here.
SPEAKER_01All of it, all of it I'm seeing, especially where my hostel is at with the neighborhood, how you say it again? Uh Frigy Shah. All right, yeah, I ain't gonna say it again. But that, but like even like right outside my hostel, it's restaurant on restaurant on restaurant, different ones, like Italian, like you just named, all of them. To me, like German food is just like sausages and schnitzels, right?
SPEAKER_00Pretty much. Uh, I mean, it's different more. Yeah, like I've been here two years. They're gonna eat me up in the comments. Uh, you got you know, you got like this thing called uh Keser Spetzel. It's like uh basically cheese, like you know, like that Nunky or something like that. Like uh it's kind of like that um that that like pasta type of thing, but it's like in that little roll. Uh uh, it's like Italian thing. So it's almost similar. You got that, you got um, what else? You got like the pork shoulder with the like the big, you know, with the with the mashed potatoes and the onions and stuff in there. Okay, you got, I mean, a couple German dishes that are actually good. Gotcha. Contrary to the popular belief. You know, you think German food, you think, you know, again, white people food, bland, no seasoning. Yes, some got some seasoning in there. You got some, not all, but it's still some, you know.
SPEAKER_01They throwing curry on there, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_01That's it. That's it.
SPEAKER_00Have you tried it?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've tried a curry, uh curry or curry works. Yeah, yeah, how was that? It was good, it was good. Oh, yeah, you like you like the curry works. I liked it, it was decent. Um, nothing that like it didn't wow me though. I was like, it's cool, you know what I'm saying? It wasn't nothing crazy. Hey, the curry is different. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the curry is just like, you know, happen to be dust that has some type of bro.
SPEAKER_02They just tossed it on there with it with some sauce on there. I'm like, all right, this is not working.
SPEAKER_00Why is this thing have so much curry powder on here and don't taste that much spices on it? You're like, what's going on? This is just real tough.
SPEAKER_01I'm like, all right, that's how we live in today.
SPEAKER_00Why you remove the spice from curry powder? This is crazy. Y'all, y'all German people different. Man, German engineering, different. Y'all know how to separate the atoms and particles from curry powder to make this uh taste like regular powder. I'm gonna let them have it. I'm gonna let them have it. There you go. Nah, that's smart. You you you do you're doing a diplomatic thing. You're like, nah, you teach you take the heat. I'm trying to make a music career out here. Oh, yeah, don't let him hate me yet. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. My man on a PR tour. He's like, hey, look, you know, I want to make sure things are good out here. He likes curry verse, so that's good. Y'all support my man. Yeah. It was all right. He's like, let's take it too far. For sure, don't take it too far. He's like, Don't don't come to my show.
SPEAKER_01He was like, You want some curry verse? I'm gonna definitely deny it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he's like, I'm not I'm good. I'm you know, I just ate. I'm good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, but falafel though was pretty they the falafel in Hamburg was real good, though. I like that. Um, I've had some donor, it was it was decent. Yeah, you do not uh here or in um in both hamburg and here, actually. Okay, yeah, here that was pretty good. I had mama's food, someplace called Mama's Food. Okay, that was pretty good. But my friend from Hamburg that I met told me I should try. Uh I might say it wrong, but Jim Use kebab.
SPEAKER_00Oh, Gamusa, yeah, Gamusa kebab.
SPEAKER_01I mean Gamusa kebab.
SPEAKER_00Um, you got uh you got the the Mufasa and Mustafa's uh Gamusa.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's the one actually, I think, is what he said. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I mean it's there.
SPEAKER_00It's just like a very touristy popular thing or whatever, but you got this one called Hasir. It's in um the cun or whatever. It's uh N-E-U-K-O with the umlaut, the dots or whatever, L L N. And that one's good. That one's actually good. It's under$10, very heavy. You eat that once, you good.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00So you got that. Um, also you have this one near Hakishir marked or something like that. And I forgot the name of that, but that one's good too. So you got like some spots where it's like if you know, you know, or if somebody else knows, they'll tell you. Okay, and it's like very good. So you got those two spots. Um, yeah. Ah, I I I wish I knew the name of that, like that southern that southern spot because it's very good. It's right on uh Visa Vesa Strauss W-E-S-E-R. This is funny because I've been in Germany so long. I'm calling this shit. You like, hold on, be on the have to Google like that. Yeah, you're gonna like all right, V-E-S. I'm like, no, W, my bad. Sorry, yeah, uh Veser Strauss. Yeah, but yeah, they got some good food out here. Okay, you know, also um American spots, too. I mean, burgers is starting to become a big thing out here. Yeah, I peeped that too. Yeah, yeah, burger situation out here, different burgermeister.
SPEAKER_01Is is burgers from hamburgers or no? Is that some like myth shit? It is not, but they do call themselves hamburgers.
SPEAKER_00Okay, okay, yeah, gotcha. I get it, it's confusing. They're like, we're hamburgers. Y'all know y'all make hamburgers? No, we don't. All right, bet, bet, bet. Funny enough, hamburg had the worst burgers I've tasted in Germany. Yes, yes. And so that's that was too ironic. Hamburg. Hey, I love you. That's intimate. You fucking up hamburg. Um the hamburger people. Y'all fucking up on hamburgers? Damn. Hamburg, hamburger, come on. That I mean marketing. Come on, y'all gotta fix that. Okay, okay. Yeah, but they they say it too. So, like, yeah, you don't go there for hand. Yeah, I mean, but you know, maybe they standing on they standing on business. It's like, hey, look, we want to be sure that you're not gonna confuse us with hamburgers. Yeah, that's true. Us as a people. So let's make the hamburgers terrible. Let's let's make sure we burn it, no seasoning, nothing.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, real talk, dude.
SPEAKER_00So you never bring up hamburgers. We are known for more.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00We're upstanding people. We have jobs. We we keep our lawns manicured perfectly, no matter what. Yeah, yeah. All right. So, you know, but hey, you like you know, you like the curry verse, so maybe the hamburgers might be fun.
SPEAKER_02It was cool. It was cool.
SPEAKER_00All right, it's cool, my baby.
SPEAKER_01It wasn't all that. Maybe I said the wrong thing.
SPEAKER_00No, no, no, look, everyone, cool means something different. All right, yeah, don't, yeah, you know. It means it was good. That's what it means. Yeah, cool. Cool means very good.
SPEAKER_02It's all good. I'ma let him go. I'm gonna let him go. Oh shit, I'm fucking with you. Oh shit. You good.
SPEAKER_00But all right, so man, you out here for a couple more days and stuff. So what's your plans out here in uh Berlin?
SPEAKER_01Man, um, these last couple days, um I met a guy actually from Ireland who just got here not too long ago. So we're gonna kick it um near like the area that I was talking about, the Matrix was at. Um, they got like a bunch of like little, like it's the skate shop called Skate Hall or something like that. And around it, it's a bunch of little like clubs and like mini bars and stuff. Like they got like outdoor pubs and stuff. But around there is a bunch of food trucks that's playing hip hop music. So I'm like, this is different because all I've been hearing is techno. Like everywhere I go. So we're gonna kick it there this weekend. Um shoot, yeah. I'm gonna probably just hang around where I'm where I'm staying at and go to a couple more um food spots. Yeah, I I'm pretty done much done as far as all uh open mics and stuff. I done hit pretty much all of them that I can so far. But yeah, that's about it.
SPEAKER_00Nice. There's a place called Slapped or whatever. It's in um, yeah, St. Friedrich's shine area, like uh if you I don't know, Volshower Strasse, like the Volkshower, um, start with a W, but uh around that area, actually, that's like a like a spot where there's like a lot of things going on.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00And around there, there's this thing, this place called Slapped, and it's owned by these two dudes from Atlanta. So like um two black dudes from Atlanta, they have like always some events going on. If you go on their Instagram, you can see what's going on.
SPEAKER_01Got you.
SPEAKER_00And yeah, I mean, you go inside, it feels like a land, like you go inside, you're about okay, these motherfuckers from Atlanta. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I got a bunch of family that live in Atlanta now. So I'm gonna go.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they got the bottles lit up in a certain way, they got the thing all comfortable. You but all right, they here, they send this spot up for motherfuckers. They have a good time, spend money. Also, too, like just chill, like so. That's a nice spot too. But probably link up with them because a lot of black people come through there just because like the vibes and like you know, they have a lot of events dancing, this and that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Uh also my boy out there, he um bartends out there too. He's from actually Ohio, yeah, like from the Midwest. Okay, so like, yeah, that's a spot too. I think they got things on slapped.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna go there.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and actually, I ain't gonna lie, cause he be telling me, 'Cause he bartends there, like he'd be like, yo, bro, like sometimes they'd be having events where let's just say the ratios be a little different or something like that in terms of you know more women than the dudes or so like so you know it's just like a interest, it's just like a cool vibe in a way to where like they have the venue set up in a certain way, they got like dance. And it's like that. Sometimes it's just got like, you know, actually they had a night where they're just playing like it's like this DJ, and like it just looked like a situation. You know, so they just have it set up in a way they understand. Yeah. And they're coming from the states. So there's no, you know.
SPEAKER_01All right. I'm gonna definitely check that out then.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, check them out. Cause yeah, you go on the Instagram, they always have, I think they always have something going on. So yeah, check them out. I got you.
SPEAKER_01I got you. Especially if you say that ratio is kind of in my in my favor.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he'd be telling me, he's like, bro, all right, he'd be like, bro, sometimes it'd be a problem, actually. So I'm not I'm not saying to take advantage, I'm just saying to balance it out for the ladies. Yeah, I'm here for the ladies, all right. This is for the balance, okay?
SPEAKER_01I'm here for y'all. There you go. Somebody told me, or matter of fact, now somebody told me I I think I seen this in a Hannibal Burr's uh stand-up or something. He was like, uh European European women love Americans, and I ain't experienced that since I've been here, really. Oh, really? Yeah, like they don't seem that welcoming or like they looking for no American or like they that fascinated with them. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
SPEAKER_00I think it depends. I don't know where you've been at or where you was at. So maybe the circles you've been in or something. Um because you know, I mean, it's one of those things where I think timing too, like wintertime, and then also too, it's like the Christmas season, so like people in a different mindset, like where people like family, this, that, you know.
SPEAKER_01They locked in already. Um, right.
SPEAKER_00So we come around here around springtime, around summertime, a little different. Yeah, actually, very different.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why I gotta come back in the summer, dude.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you can't even like write on the tail end. They're already cuffed, already, and then Christmas season. So, hey, you know, babe, let's go to you know, this Christmas mark. You know, they doing a little lovey dovey thing, and then before, you know, Valentine's Day is when, you know, they're like, All right, what are we for real? You be like, ha ha ha, you know, that's a good question. And then, you know, springtime is when you can come back. All right, that's good to know. Yeah, noted. So, one question I like to ask, or so got two more. Got, you know, the one and then the special one we got after, is that um I usually ask this with anyone who's on the podcast, right? Is that you've been through a lot of different like things in life, right? You moved to different places, you know, growing up, uh, Midwest, you into different things that are had their own cultures, like you know, skateboarding, even the artists that you like you like, like uh, you know, like Whiz Khalifa, like uh Wale during a time where trap music, not trap music, but like uh drill music, yeah, drill music was like big. So going through all of that, what's would be the number one advice you give to your younger self?
SPEAKER_01My younger self, um, I would say be more confident in being expressing yourself and being yourself. Like I was kind of even though I would still be myself, like I was a little ashamed of it at certain times. Like, man, I don't fit in with everybody, or like everybody's into this. Like, why ain't why ain't that my thing? You know what I'm saying? But nope, keep following that path, keep keep doing, keep doing what you're doing. Because it's gonna lead you to places that those people that you thought you wanted to be around, they not at. You know what I'm saying? So and you're gonna appreciate that and you're gonna love it. So yeah, I I just say just keep staying on that path, keep keep loving what you're doing, and and don't be ashamed of it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Nice, man. That's some good advice, bro. And look at where you at now, man. And you know, it's dope, it's dope for you to be out here, feels good, you know, doing your music thing. And then also, too, um somebody told me that um, you know, you you you you can freestyle. You can, you know, you can you could you can you know say some words and put it in a way that's uh that's that's lit. So I got you. So I mean, you know, let's let's let's hear what you got, bro. Alright, cool. Let's hear it.
SPEAKER_01I say, okay, okay. From Kankakee to Kia, St. Paul to Pauli. Don't know if I'm coming back, but if y'all applaud me, I will. Mike with the glove. Y'all could partially feel me. You already know they hardly could kill me. Yeah. And I'm coming from the jerk. You already know I've been serving from the curb. I'm really sick of serving. I got a purpose. I'm in Germany, but I don't know if it's working. Yeah. Head shot off the dome. I'm going back till I'm gone. I'ma go ahead and kill it. I'ma live it as long. Hold on. Hold on. I say, hold on. Yeah. Uh I say, Yeah, hold on. I got you.
SPEAKER_00Keep on going. If you need some music, shit, bro.
SPEAKER_01Nah, I just I had roll something specifically to it. Yeah. So so if I could, if we could, like, could I cut it and restart it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, bro. Yeah, this is the part we can cut out. Yeah, yeah. Cool, cool. I had roll something specifically for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you got it, you good, bro?
SPEAKER_01I say. Alright. From Kanga Key to Kia, St. Paul to Pauli. Don't know if I'm coming back, but if y'all applaud me, I will. Mike with the glove on. Y'all partially feel me. Ain't going nowhere. I'm here till the audience hear me. And when I leave, put the monument there. They tell me it's a Dutch thing for the people to stay. I disagreed and digress. Don't know I can't digest. I've been missing all my plants. That explains why I'm stressed. Not to mention, I've been spitting like dippin' pouches. Made it out of Q basement. Don't give up the couch yet. Headshot off the dome. Go for the kill, then I'm gone. This military brat telling me make Frank for my home. Fuck no, I wanted to. Won't rush though. Double clutch, one foe. I'm the coach, I caught the plan. I ain't even wanna score. Hold that ball, it dropping a week. 25 was a year, but I'm finna delete. Too much sharing, you don't care, so I'ma keep it discreet. This slando, like magic, pull a rabbit out the casket. In front of all these people, I'm they nigga when I'm rapping. I can't let you forget what you did because you clapping, just smile in my face and put them euros in a basket. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00Okay. Alright, all right, all right. Let me say, I appreciate you. Appreciate you. Okay, my man. He was like, Yeah, come out the year with some bars. I see you. Bro, thank you very much. If you can let the people know where to find you, how they can see you.
SPEAKER_01I got you. Um, Lando is the name if you want to search that as far as um all streaming platforms. But Instagram, I'm like magic studios, all one word. Um on Twitter, like magic studios, Patreon as well. Uh, Patreon is a major one, especially if you want to be involved with the fitness side. Um, I got a bunch of uh workout programs on the Patreon, even uh video tutorials on how to do certain lifts. So uh like magic studios everywhere. If you type that in, I'm gonna pop up. All right.
SPEAKER_00Ah, Lando Studios, go ahead and search this man. And oh, thank you very much for doing this, bro. Thank you for having me, bro. All right, and this is your boy Yan Yennifin, Third Culture Talk Podcast. I'll see you guys in the next one. Peace.
