Embracing Innate Intuition with Evidential Psychic Medium Krystal Parry

We are all born intuitive beings. Over time, social conditioning can lead us to abandon or mistrust our innate guidance systems. Krystal Parry, evidence-based medium and Reiki master, shares her personal journey toward embracing her unique gifts and abiding the call to share them with the collective. 
       
Join us as we discuss energetic healing work, metaphysics, and the pursuit of holistic wellness. Krystal explains the tradition of Reiki to our listeners--how working with the body's energetic pathways can be more essential to healing than allopathic measures. We discuss the vibrational nature of the universe, the intersection of the rational and the empirical, and the ethics of mediumship. Krystal shares poignant accounts of her work and  we reflect on the power of free will, interconnectivity and the value of unique  gifts to the collective. What Krystal offers is sure to inspire, shining a guiding light on the universal path toward self-discovery.

Guest Bio: Krystal Parry is an Evidenced-based medium who will bring through evidence that your loved ones are right here with you. She is also a Reiki master who facilitates healing for others. In Reiki it is the client’s own energy that heals them. Krystal identifies simply as the  bridge that assists in that healing.  In her mediumship practice she is just the channel between two worlds as she works for spirit. Those souls who have passed on no longer have a voice to express what they would like to say to their loved ones here on Earth.  Krystal Parry has done thousands of readings, International and stateside. Locally, she offers monthly group readings and teach classes.

Learn more about Krystal Parry at www.blossomingmedium.com

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Hi guys, and welcome to language of the soul, where life is story. I, of course, would love to introduce our producer extraordinaire and I didn't really come up with a name for you this week, but maybe the chicken with her head cut off.

Speaker 2: 0:16

Yeah, that works.

Speaker 1: 0:19

Yeah, we both had a kind of crazy mornings but we're settling in, as we were just talking about in the green room, as we call it. You know how many times can you learn the lesson of just letting go of expectations and just taking whatever life has to offer? So for me it's been all about, I call it, diffusing mind and ego right and just getting in that space of your love and just relinquishing all expectations. So that's been my learning curve this morning and I think I'm present. I hope so. Does that resonate with you, virginia? I know you've had a pretty busy morning.

Speaker 2: 0:53

Yeah, I've had. I've had about a busy 48 hours, but yeah, so my yeah I mean I'm definitely present and I definitely think it's. You know, making sure to make that personal time and space has been a big, a big thing for me today.

Speaker 1: 1:07

I get it. Yeah well, you've got a lot of family counting on you, right, a lot of people relying on you, so it's probably million fold for you anyway, assuming we're all present. But you know, the premise of the podcast is how life is story and, of course, and it's constantly unfolding and it's constantly rewriting itself and we have the power right to co create with that story and write our own story. So it's just for me, the universe has really revealed that and no uncertain terms today. So, in a really interesting space, especially for today's guest, and that is a definitely a transition. She's a medium, among other things, and so I just feel really like a live wire and a good way and I will leave it at that. Everything's on the surface for me. So, yeah, that's my transition and I'm going to go ahead and read her bio and crystal Paris. Her name, crystal, as you know. You can just correct anything that I might get wrong in your bio.

Speaker 1: 2:02

Okay, crystal Perry is an evidence based medium who will bring through evidence that your loved ones are right here with you. She's also a reiki master who facilitates healing and others. In reiki, it is the client's own energy that heals them. Crystal identify simply as the bridge that assists in that healing In the mediumship practice. She's just the channel between two worlds. As she works for spirit, those souls who have passed on no longer have a voice to express what they would like to say to their loved ones here on earth. Crystal Perry has done thousands of readings, international and state side and locally. She offers monthly group readings and teaches classes. I'm going to read a little bit from crystals website and hopefully we can follow up on some of this later.

Speaker 1: 2:48

How can an evidence based psychic medium help me? Psychic mediums will bring forward, to quote unquote evidence that your loved ones in spirit are right here with you in this life. After our souls transition from this earthly realm, we do not go sit on a fluffy cloud and wait out all the rest of eternity. I love that. I know this from all the readings I've done. Love does not die at. Our souls do indeed live on your. Speak in my language. I personally ask spirit, your loved ones, for verification in each session to prove to you they are here with you, they share with me how they are assisting you in this life and bring validation of the love that was shared between you when they were alive. I connect you with your loved ones who have passed on and bring messages from them that provide guidance and support you in your current life. If you've recently lost someone, you may feel terrible about the way or timing in which they passed. Seeing a medium can help give you answers and peace of mind. Welcome, crystal Perry.

Speaker 3: 3:51

Thank you, dominic. That was beautiful. I don't think there's anything to correct. You did a great job.

Speaker 1: 3:57

Oh, thank you. Well, hey, thanks, I need to expand on, but I'm glad I didn't botch anything. I guess, Virginia, you can jump in, but I feel like maybe one way to get started is I would love you did say something, I think, in one of your prompts yeah, actually on the website it did say we're all born with the gift of intuition, and so that was one of the first things I wanted to ask you is when did you get in touch with you, know your intuition, or I'm guessing there was a moment when you decided to nurture it? So I would love to hear from you the level you know. We all have a different apparatus and we have different temperaments and disposition. But, assuming all humans are intuitive, is it an innate gift or is it something we can all nurture, meaning clairvoyance, intuition, all of it?

Speaker 3: 4:48

All of it.

Speaker 3: 4:50

One we are definitely born with it and we know it as as infants and toddlers. I teach this when I teach my intuition class. It's about age five or seven. We start losing it. Basically, we put it on hold, pause, forget about it and just go the way the natural world wants us to go Right. Sometimes it's about school age. We're heading into school and maybe your teachers telling you oh, little Johnny, you're so good at math. And you're little Johnny and you're saying I'm not really good at math, I don't feel good about this, this don't resonate with my body, but someone's telling you how good you are at it, so you start to conform and and then you go home and your parents say look, look, what a good job you did, but it still doesn't feel right to you and again, you can form. It's not just school that does it. We. We want to please the people around us, so we're doing anything to contort that and it means getting rid of our own inner soul.

Speaker 3: 5:45

Right, yes, of course, yeah as we go along in school, you know, then we get our education. I find people that come to me in their early 20s that their intuition pause has now opened up. They've maybe been through a relationship or a breakup, or where's my life headed and, and I need to open this gift up and I'll teach them tips and tricks to come back into that, because it never really goes away Right and hit the pause button.

Speaker 1: 6:12

And then I would say, you know it's beautiful. Well, yeah, I would say the world doesn't necessarily support a relationship with our intuition, right? So there's a lot of empirical ways that I don't know. Social conditioning kind of robs us of that. But I think it's beautiful that you I don't want to put words in your mouth but nurture, you know, encourage people to explore it. Maybe that's the next sort of direction we could go.

Speaker 1: 6:32

Virginia and I have talked a lot about how the pandemic was definitely a time out for a lot of people and there was an opportunity to reflect and introspect and for me it was absolutely a matter of putting that on the front burner. So I would say my entire life I've been a seeker. That's actually the name of my pandemic book, the seeker, which, ironically, most heroes journeys end up back home. So seeking is kind of overrated because everything is within. I've very much said. You know I've always been a quote unquote seeker. I've really investigated you name it the cabalion, chinese medicine. I've got a synagogue, I've got an average in nomination of Protestantism. But as far as intuition goes, I've always felt like who knows what my potential could be if I put that on the front burner. So I know the pandemic was kind of a fire under my butt. Virginia, I think you said something similar where you stopped a apologizing for exploring maybe the metaphysical realm a little more.

Speaker 2: 7:33

Yeah, then I know I've been in the because since we know each other a little bit. I know when her and I we've crossed paths, like we've had little chats and stuff that I mentioned. You know, like when I was younger, I was always drawn and I know Crystal mentions it as well on her website for those who want to learn more about her, about how you. You know we're searching and was always interested in that metaphysical kind of spiritual, you know ality that's out there in the universe. And you know, and I was like you, why same thing, bookstores, libraries because we didn't have Google back then and my parents, being super religious, were, I mean heck. I even like wanted to hang prisms just in my window just because I love the rainbow. Like my mom was freaking out like oh my gosh, you're going to be a double worshipper, and I'm like oh my gosh.

Speaker 2: 8:19

So the case and so when the pandemic happened, I guess I just kind of, because you're home and you know same thing, like you're just saying, Dominic, you get to sit back and you kind of get to do more of that introspection. And I've lived a lot of my life where I I have found that when I dulled, my intuition guide me and I logically make decisions. So I'm using more of that concrete, you know, cognitive, cognitive decision making, that usually my life goes down the wrong road. Or when I focus on my intuition it always seems to go on a better path.

Speaker 1: 8:49

When we don't trust our gut, it never ends well.

Speaker 2: 8:52

And so during COVID I really I started really really reflected on that, and so that's when I started getting more into spiritualism and, you know, kind of trying to I don't want to say debug my parents' philosophies, but you know, kind of rid myself of that and went introspective to grow. And it was cool because that's when, you know, I got to cross paths with Crystal and that was so kind of cool in my life Cause I was going, oh yeah, somebody else who's been on this kind of, you know, same journey, you know, but Well then, I'm going to take that opportunity, because that was this is all leading to, crystal.

Speaker 1: 9:26

Was there a moment where you owned your gifts or put it on the front burner, or have you always identified as being in touch with your intuition? And, by the way, I want to limit it to the word intuition for the moment, cause personally, it is a pet peeve of mine when everything gets lumped into everything to do with the metaphysical realm, gets lumped into an awkward section of the bookstore called New Age, or under mentalism, or you know. I just want to call it intuition for the moment. So, crystal, was there sort of a moment, or have you always been in touch with your, your innate gifts?

Speaker 3: 9:58

Um, I I think that I was always in touch. I just grew up in a family that we didn't express it. You didn't talk about it too bad, that's your thing.

Speaker 3: 10:07

Hide it you know so when I would go to school or when I would go have free time and go to the library, I always went to quote the New Age stuff. You know, I read everything on astrology and I read on mediums and I was at a young age seven, eight, nine, 10, those are the books I wanted and I wanted truth. I didn't want something that was made up. So at a young age I had it, you know, again in my twenties, got married, did my thing, had relationship fails and and um, I needed to check into that. There was something that I just wasn't either trusting in myself because the world told me one way or another. So it wasn't until I was a little bit older that I started acting on it and really listened to that. And now that I'm in the world of it, I think, man, I really needed to go back and truly listen to myself, for you know 10, 20 years that I ignored it.

Speaker 1: 10:59

But I think I've always had it.

Speaker 3: 11:00

I really do.

Speaker 1: 11:01

Yeah Well, yeah, I do feel like we're all intuitive and it's actually quite evolutionary theory based, right, we are meant to connect out subconsciously for survival. But I do think, yes, we all have that little milestone where we learn the hard lesson that if you don't trust your gut, you get in trouble. So, I know, I've just my gut has never been wrong personally, but I do think you know there's a word that gets thrown around a lot these days an empath and part of me always has a knee-jerk reaction like, hmm, we're all pretty sensitive if we choose to be, and we all have access to a lot more than again, socialization allows us to access or sort of permits. So but I, for that reason, I just personally, four years now, have felt that everything gets discredited by lumping it into one category.

Speaker 3: 11:53

I don't love.

Speaker 1: 11:54

The new age idea, mentalism, was resurrected at the beginning of the arguably 19th century, and now it's become the law of attraction and manifestation, and I just think we do a disservice when we lump it all together. So in that spirit, I want to ask you I know you identify as a clairvoyant, and clairvoyance is different, and so is clairaudience. Do you mind defining those terms for our listeners?

Speaker 3: 12:18

Yeah, but I kind of identify more as claircognizant. It's a knowing.

Speaker 1: 12:24

Right.

Speaker 3: 12:25

So I'll go through the clairs. Most people recognize the clairvoyance because that's what people talk about. A clairvoyance is something you're seeing through your mind's eye. It's something that is about to happen. Maybe you've had a dream. Maybe you can just see spirit, someone around you. But it's not actually like your physical eye is seeing something. It's an internal eye. So that's clairvoyance. Clare, audience is when you can hear something that, again, isn't physical, that is around you. Maybe you heard someone speak your name and there's no one around you. Maybe you you know, I don't know heard a conversation somewhere that you can't place. There's just and this kind of ties in when we're kids Are you a visual learner writing something on a board for a teacher and you're like, yeah, I learn a lot if I see it.

Speaker 3: 13:09

Or if I read it in a book, that's you're going to be your strength and your clairvoyance is probably going to be strong. Or if someone tells you something and you just I never forget it. You know your clairaudient, clare. Cognizance is when you just feel it's a knowing right, and that's where I like to say my strength is now. When I work, all my clairs are on point. It isn't just one, and as you get most people, all of them will come through right. It isn't just. It isn't just one Clare that's coming through. There's another Clare. I wanted to talk about Clare, clare sentience.

Speaker 3: 13:44

I'm sorry, ah, okay so you're feeling, you're just feeling someone's around you, or you're feeling something that you've picked up. There's a, there's a medium Tyler Henry, he's popular for this you pick something up and it's called psychometry, and you're feeling maybe energy off that item or clothing. Or you walk into a room and you're just like something just feels off, so that one's Clare sentience.

Speaker 1: 14:05

Love it. Well, it makes sense because in life we conceptualize and we intellectualize, and that's cognition, right, but there's a whole level of just life and existence that is experiential. Even people that haven't nurtured this in themselves will say, ooh, I got a really weird vibe when dot dot dot. I have a friend that visited not like going to one of the concentration camps, nothing that heavy, but she was in the desert here in Southern California and she just got a really weird vibe and she later found out it was just, you know, one of the Japanese POW camps. It wasn't not a lot of people had died there, but she still felt it.

Speaker 1: 14:42

I know, in Paris I was walking near the Eiffel Tower and I just went through a tunnel, felt a real heaviness and I got, you know, I emerged at the other side and there was the Princess Diana Memorial with all the flowers laid out. It was it's called Pond de l'Alma, bridge of the Soul. Again, speaking talking about the symbolism of life, virginia right Bridge of the soul. But I don't, even at that time certainly this was in the 90s I didn't identify as anybody who's particularly, I don't know, they're sentient but I felt it Is that kind of what we're talking about. It's not a cognitive process or conceptualization, it's an experiential thing.

Speaker 3: 15:26

Oh, completely. And when I teach intuition, I tell people your intuition is in your body from your neck down. It is not in your head. You're going to feel it, sense it, know it all in your body from your neck down. And if you can relate that to the senses, how am I just feeling right now? Should I marry this person? Should I take this job? What does my body say? That's where you're going to have your answers.

Speaker 1: 15:47

Well, when I, when I say that it's a survival based mechanism, to be really clear and my book is largely about, you know all these silly, ridiculous divides about empiricism and faith or rationalism like some of it, if you just change your verbiage a little bit, we're saying the same thing.

Speaker 1: 16:04

So, to give it a real empirical, newtonian slant, I would say, like our highly sophisticated limbic systems are therefore a reason we have a guidance system, without connecting dots. Again, conceptually or intellectually, we're wired right to have certain innate reactions and they get hardwired on our DNA and it's a protective thing, right. We can't always process what frontal lobes, all the stimuli around us all day, every day, but we certainly are wired to have what's called a protective response or a growth response to everything we encounter during our day. So, anyway, I just think, yeah, society teaches us to mistrust that and actually some friends will teach you this. My learning curve has been truly and I don't want to make it about me, but a big learning curve for me has been how funny that the people that would have you not trust your gut or your intuition are the same people that may not have our best interest at heart. So my learning curve has been to own. I've never been wrong, and that includes being a good judge of character, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3: 17:13

Yeah, true, and I'd like to add to that the people that are telling you not to follow it. They might not be the ones betraying you, but they were programmed from their parents and their parents. Your parents want to do good, but when you're like I don't want to eat the broccoli, eat the broccoli. It's good for you, right? You completely.

Speaker 1: 17:27

Yeah.

Speaker 3: 17:28

And I'm using something simple here that's what they were programmed to do. You need to do this and push, push, push and they don't question it. I like to say that our intuition is our universal language from birth. Absolutely, whether we're born in Spain or America, or we speak Spanish or we speak English, we have a universal language and that's intuition. From the moment that we are here, we know what we like and what we don't like. We know that we don't want to go sit on a certain person's lap but we want to be with another person. We know we want a special toy and we don't want something else. We know this at a young age. You watch any toddler and they're still pure and they're listening to their intuition Beautiful.

Speaker 1: 18:06

Yeah, and internationally is when you really do see it body language, gestures, facial expressions defy language. Right, and yeah, you pick up those signals, or even I would say the non-local, the energetic signaling as well. But even just again, body language, gestures, facial expressions defy language. So I love that. And yeah, children, I think we really teach them in every way to tune out of the metaphysical realm and tune into the empirical. Anyway, sorry, did you have something you want to say, virginia?

Speaker 2: 18:39

I feel like I cut you off, as you guys have been talking, obviously because I don't always come up a little bit about the fact of my background in mental health. But a lot of this falls into the stages of development of children, where it's called trust, mistrust it's John Piirge who talks about it and children who don't develop that skill very well, which is in their earlier years, and that's usually because they have very domineering parents so they don't feel the trust in their parents, that intuitional state of trust, and so they fall into the more of the mistrust. That's how a lot of as I'm listening to you guys, I'm going, I'm thinking about that going I can see how that would cause. For as you age through those developmental stages, how you start to lose that intuitional kind of status because it's going back to the whole. Your external environment is enforcing this preconceived notion that is going against innately what you are born to do, which is to learn what to trust and not trust, innately as a child. So just thought, throw that out there.

Speaker 1: 19:49

I love it because Piirge is the prime example you could say. Developmental psychology is the study of how conditioning and socialization robs us of our sometimes innate gifts that are there for our survival. Our guidance system. It's not I'm not attaching any ill intent to it, crystal. I agree it's for survival and everybody's well. I was hinting at betrayal only because another, softer way of putting it is that may not have our best interest at heart. So I think we're all just trying to get through life and we're thinking about ourselves and I think it's just really evident if somebody goes out of their way, to gaslight, if that makes sense. Mistrust your replace one narrative with another, but I do think most of it happens with the best intentions. But I think we're reframing a lot of that. Society is really into questioning the status quo and that includes institutions like patriarchy and colonialism, and I think we're just more responsible as parents, right, in terms of what we nurture in our children and what we squelch.

Speaker 3: 20:54

Yeah, and you know our parents. Whoever you may have good, bad, ugly, you know they've worked with their parents. And the brain itself is a logical mind. It wants a reason for everything.

Speaker 3: 21:08

When you're using intuition, you're not using your logical mind. You're using I heard it once say by Sonia Chauquette it's regurgitated second hand opinion when you get reason. But the biggest thing with the intuition is when it hits, don't question it. It's someone else that has questioned it for you and you've got to talk yourself out of what they or programmed or why they want to talk you out of it.

Speaker 1: 21:34

Yeah, and back to what you just said, I call it nonlinear, right. So there's been a lot of talk of left, right brain activity and more and more it's all tasks engage both the left and the right. So there's less talk of, oh, this person is, you know, left brain dominant or right brain dominant? We're all firing on all cylinders all the time. But I do.

Speaker 1: 21:55

When I say society is changing and is therefore conditioning and socialization is changing, I do think there's a real embracing of the convergence of left and right brain thinking, and that includes everything from masculine and feminine right to other binary things. Society is less binary than ever in that way, or cutting edge society anyway. So I don't know if that lands for you, but the nonlinear stuff has more currency and value to me in mainstream society right now. I agree, Well, and it's been an arc from the early nineties right when, like the New Age section of the bookstore appeared. You weren't hearing these conversations, right, Until Oprah started really having people on and they were called fringy and woohoo and all those other things. I feel like it's been a steady arc toward it.

Speaker 2: 22:42

I want to add to that too. So what I have seen just in my own spiritual journey, and you know retuning myself into my intuition more strongly than I have, you know I also put it kind of on hold for about 20 years from my youth and obviously COVID helped. And then of course, you know, going further into my mental health studies. But the big thing that I have seen and I know, crystal, you actually are, you know out in a lot of you know fields. When I say fields, I mean like events, you're out there connecting with people in very many different arenas and I see that when they talk about whole body wellness and therapy and counseling, mental health, because they're like, hey, you need to meditate. I remember that never even came up.

Speaker 2: 23:32

Right you know, with counselors and therapists, like you guys should be like meditating and connecting, or you know, and you know, even talking into a wish and really I mean it was more logical talk, and now they're like, hey, you know, I mean, there's books, there's like one I just got done reading called, you know, the gift of fear, and it's, you know, for those who have experienced trauma and victimization. And going back to what you mentioned earlier, dominic, about how hard, hard wires into your DNA, into your nervous system, and so that's when you hear, now that you know the term that every uses is boundaries and triggers, and that's because it comes from that, that thought process. So I'm curious, chris, what's it been like for you seeing that there's been more of that? You know, awareness of that whole body, you know. So people are rising.

Speaker 2: 24:21

It's not just a logical mentality, Like there's hate, hate, hate saying the word illogical, but you know where. It's not that. You know that typical, rational, here's the scientific, you know proof, it's. You know we understand. There's this whole other area that fits into the human experience to give everybody that complete awareness.

Speaker 3: 24:44

I think the groups that I see and the events that I go to, there's always been someone in the background. They gently nod their head in agreement. But I'm not going to be over the top of, I don't want to get too woo-woo with this, but they know innately this experience for them. There's always something gently nudging them of I want to go back to that next class. There's something there, there's a pull there, there's a truth here I can't name, but I want to keep it from them.

Speaker 3: 25:11

They desire it, and there's more and more of that.

Speaker 1: 25:13

I wouldn't be a writer if I didn't feel people know the universal or objective truth at the bottom of it all despite themselves. I love that when you see the recognition of something that resonates.

Speaker 3: 25:26

It starts slowly. Like I said, it's someone in the back of the room with their arms crossed and they're gently nodding. Or a wife has brought their husband and they're questioning, and I don't know why I'm hearing. This is stupid. By the time they leave they're like, yeah, that was pretty good, They've opened up a little bit. Or they've gently nudged because they knew it all their life and now the truth has resonated.

Speaker 1: 25:45

Yeah, I do think there's a lot of theoretical, quote, unquote knowledge and there's, like you said earlier and I have a whole chapter in the book on which this podcast is based about how we do adopt, where the sole organism actually that not only encodes new responses to novel stimuli in addition to the database we're born with, but we actually internalize ideas vicariously from others. Truly, we're the only species that adopts ideas that were imposed upon us and incorporates them and encodes them. So anyway, back to something Virginia said a moment ago I would I'd use the word holism. The mind, body, spirit connection is more mainstream now, as is a holistic approach to life, and that we're ushering out this Newtonian idea and ushering back in a little more of an acknowledgement, an Eastern acknowledgement. So, specifically, you're a Reiki master, so my under I've been reading a lot of Bruce Lipton lately, cell biology and, of course, deepak Chopra, and they get accused of being quacks, but I'm sorry, it's pretty indisputable if you slow down a little bit.

Speaker 1: 26:53

So my understanding and tell me if I'm wrong, but I think Newtonian and everything that stems from that right. Allopathic medicine focuses on chemical changes that we can induce through the cell wall, right through gates and channels in the cells. But Eastern medicine seems to concentrate on these energetic superhighways, our chakras and meridians, part of that energetic system that we have in our bodies. Is that basically what your practice is all about? Tell the listeners, in other words, what Reiki is all about, if you don't mind.

Speaker 3: 27:29

Sure Reiki is a Japanese, I guess energetic energy art form that came hundreds of years ago. But what they found was there was healing that could be done by this universal life force is what they call the universal life force energy.

Speaker 3: 27:50

Dr Mikau Yuisu is the one that taught this moving forward and it was limited to Japanese culture and Japan for a very long time until it came to the states. It started in Hawaii and then it migrated, but it does incorporate your chakras and your meridians and your whole body, the feeling throughout your body. When I got into Reiki, it just blew the doors open for me and I realized everything is energy right and we're taught that in school, but you know you just want the A in class and you're just OK, I'm out of here.

Speaker 3: 28:23

This science class is not, you don't? You don't like?

Speaker 1: 28:27

What is it? What are the implications of this? Yeah, what does it mean for my life that everything is energy?

Speaker 3: 28:34

Yeah, yeah, Lately everything, the doors are just so expanded I mean you can watch Gaia TV. The internet helped it so everyone could share their experiences and actually talk about this crazy dream I had. And then it came true. You know this, this, I guess, precognitive stuff that came out of it, and so, with with Reiki, it was just more energy that I could share with other people and then teach other people and grow from that. But absolutely it's throughout the meridians, your body. Also, when I teach intuition, like I said, I say it's from the neck down. I give specifics on each chakra.

Speaker 3: 29:08

This is where your intuition is going to hit and how you're going to feel it in your root chakra, this is how you're going to feel it in your sacral chakra, and I just give examples so people go. Oh yeah, now that makes sense.

Speaker 1: 29:19

Yes, beautiful. Yeah, I guess that's what I meant by these silly divides, when really it's when you start and again it's kind of the premise of my book Like if you connect those dots between the current understanding of quantum mechanics with the cell biology, right With, I mean, entanglement alone demonstrates the interconnectivity of every particle of the universe and then you combine it with other concepts and it's not that fringe, it's actually quite palatable for the mainstream if they just take the time to connect the dots. So that's kind of what I'm here to do is maybe dissolve some of the cognitive dissonance by saying, hey, here's an empirical, newtonian I hate the word scientific way of understanding. Yes, everything is just energy and vibration. And then if you want to really go way out on a limb and talk about non-local energetic signaling, you know it's actually backed by all of the above, including quantum mechanics. So I think that's where we're headed. I mean, do you feel hopeful about the future in terms of the mainstream embracing what really matters? Those are my words.

Speaker 3: 30:30

Oh, so much. And you know I've just seen the growth in the last year and a half, two years. People are moving more out of religion into spirituality, and I'm not just pointing fingers at religion. It can be any right Really, but they're trying to come back into their own and spirituality seems to open them up more than a structured form like religion. You know you're following something as man made with religion, spirituality, it's already innately in you. What do I just believe, what I always trust? I'm getting these signs. What does this mean? Now you've got more people just questioning and questioning, coming into their own for these great opportunities Beautiful.

Speaker 1: 31:09

Yeah, so I call it throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Like you know, more people have left the religion of their upbringing. This generation there is no, this generation, but the past, few generations than ever before. And I will say, you know, there's very good reason for that A lot of disillusionment over, I don't know, molestations, bloodbaths, like you know, this idea that most of our wars were caused by religion. Well, actually, not the percepts or concepts themselves, but the ways in which they were used by governments to, you know, usurp power and resources. So I always think the word was bastardized in some way. But I actually understand why people are disillusioned with institutionalized religion. I love that now we have compartments and people can parse a personal spirituality from right. These problematic institutionalized religions, yeah.

Speaker 2: 32:00

I'll say for me, I know over the last five years I've been doing this more, you know, more so than anything, is, you know, going back to like intuition, stuff. So like for me I there's times like well, here's something I like about shopping and all of a sudden I'll just get like get this inkling like hey, I need to reach out to this person, like so here's a prime example. I had a neighbor that in the house I lived in before the one I'm at now, and she was an older lady, lived on her own, and I was literally at Costco shopping, doing my normal weekend grocery shopping and just, you know, going down the list, and you know Costco has that section where there's the flowers and it was right around Christmas time and so they had all the holiday flowers there. And all of a sudden I just feel like hey, I need to, you know, get, get these flowers for Vicki. And I thought that was kind of weird, like a weird thought, and I was like you know, I'm not going to question it, I'm just going to do it.

Speaker 2: 32:56

I threw it in my car. My husband's like, oh, you're going to put flowers on our kitchen table. I'm like, nope, these are for across the street and literally I didn't even get the car unpacked. I took those out of the car first, let him do the rest of the unpacking Watch across the street. And when I went to knock on Vicki's door, she opened the door and I said hey, I just felt like I needed to give you these and she broke down, started crying. She had just like had like the worst phone call like minutes before him and it was just like it really hit me and and and the past. Like you know, I would. If I would share that with somebody that I went to church with, they would have totally like questioned me or tried to like your witch your witch or would have been like well, that's because it's you know, and they would try and explain it away.

Speaker 2: 33:41

Yeah, or put a label on it. I'm going. I don't think there's a label on it. You know, it was something that you know, obviously, and in Dominic you know it's because I say this now, you know, like the universe just Spoke to me and so I just did it now.

Speaker 1: 33:54

But I think it's about listening right. Synchronicity is alive and well all day, every day, and yeah.

Speaker 2: 33:59

Well, and that's what I think a lot of people are kind of starting to do, Because you know like everyone wants to put labels on things, and I think a lot of people are always saying you can't have labels on stuff like that. There's just. You can't explain it, you just, you act on it.

Speaker 1: 34:12

Love it. Yeah, I call it ineffable, right? So the numinous and the profound, there's this ineffable quality. You can't label it, you can't quantify it. So I do think society is headed toward. I mean, it's kind of hubris to think what we know is anything more than the tip of an iceberg, Right? So I think we are getting more comfortable realizing A we don't want all the answers because it would rob life of mystery, but that we just will never really know the true nature of the metaphysical realm while we're manifested here in this physical realm. It's just not how it's set up. But it's hubris to think that we know anything more than the tip of an iceberg. I mean, we thought the world was flat for a long time. For God's sake.

Speaker 3: 34:56

I wanted to add to that. I love that, virginia, that you said. I just felt like I needed to get flowers, and I don't know why, and I got them and I knocked on her door and you did that all in a short amount of time frame. Again, when I go back and teach my intuition class, I teach that our intuition works moment to moment to moment. For example, you're driving down the road and you go oh, I should slow down, there's a cop up here. That happened in a moment. You didn't think about that. 10 seconds before, in the minute you passed the cop, you're like okay, I'm not thinking about it anymore. You get that feeling that, knowing that, sensing that this is going to happen, I need to act on this. And it's when we don't act on it, in those moments we beat ourselves up later oh, I knew I should have did that. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3: 35:37

You always know when you don't do it and you get that fringe in your body, but intuition happens moment to moment. You can't predict what your intuition is going to be tomorrow at 9am. You have to wait for that moment, and some people get so frustrated They'll say I don't know, I need to know. Should I take this job? I need to know right now. Well, the moment isn't here yet. You need to wait for that moment to be there.

Speaker 1: 36:01

The traffic example. I write about miracles of prevention. Virginia and I this morning were talking about just letting go. Letting go of expectations, and that's mind and ego right, but often the need to control a situation or wish things were other than what they are Eckhart Tolle kind of talks about that a lot Most suffering in life, even if it's just standing in line at the supermarket, right, instead of accepting the moment for what it is, in a neutral way, we wish things were otherwise. So when you're in traffic and you're like, oh damn it, I've got to get somewhere, people are waiting on me, you might be actually avoiding an accident through that miracle of prevention. If that makes sense and I think it's trust in the universe and all the particles of the universe to conspire in your favor. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 36:44

Well, let's just say, going back to what both of you were just saying, especially the example you gave Crystal, I'm thinking that's probably another problem that we have in Western culture is we are so wrapped up in and ironically, dominic and I were just talking about this because I have a lot of balls in the air that I'm juggling at all times and so I literally have a very tight schedule where there's very little time for myself, and I'm getting better about getting better about recarving that time out, because I've noticed, since everything's opened up after COVID, I'm starting to fall back into that. Everything's just down to the nanosecond of what I can and can't do time wise, which is bad. And I find when I'm in that rat race, I tend to lose my intuition and my connection to spirituality and I literally will have to take that step back and remind myself, just because I've been on this journey and go hey, I need to go out, for lack of a better term, say I need to go out and touch grass, go through nature.

Speaker 2: 37:46

But it really grounds me, it really does and it reminds me like there's more than just in my little universe. There's a greater universe out there that I need to stay connected and attuned to. Would you say that? That's probably one of the things you probably hear a lot from people who come and talk to you that it's that rat race of our Western culture that hinders them for a long time.

Speaker 3: 38:11

If you're asking me, I say yes, our ego is louder than our intuition. Our intuition is very quiet and gently nudging you, and it's very calm. Your ego is loud. You need to do this, you need to act on this, you need to boom, boom, boom, boom. It wants answers right now, and your intuition is very soft and subtle that we almost miss it.

Speaker 1: 38:31

Yeah, I mean again, in scientific terms, the prefrontal cortex is about survival, so it's at your default mode. Network is actually intentionally limiting your ability to take in all the stimuli around you to what's immediately a threat or an opportunity. So I love that you got a. Yeah, prioritize quieting the ego, right, that's what meditation I mean. Meditation came up earlier. I feel like, in some ways, people I have a friend that said I'm just not getting there in my meditations I'm not getting there and I said it's because you have an expectation of right, some magical thing that's supposed to happen. I think for a lot of people it's more palatable to say you know what, it's just stress reduction. It's kind of logical in some ways and they have these mystical expectations of meditation when really sometimes it's just about limiting your stress. I don't know if that made any sense in this context.

Speaker 3: 39:24

Oh it does, and it doesn't have to be a big deal. People make meditations such this huge deal and I don't have 30 minutes to compare. It's a five minute deal. Think about when you're listening to the radio and the songs going on. You're singing along and then you just decide to shut it off. Right now it's quiet. It's that quiet time when you're meditating. You just shut everything off for a moment. I'm just getting quiet. Ok, now I can go back and do whatever I was doing.

Speaker 1: 39:47

Right.

Speaker 3: 39:47

I'm programming for that quiet.

Speaker 1: 39:50

Well, I told my friend it's really just about doing it regularly, like don't worry about arriving, just do it regularly and you'll see the benefits. But I actually feel like artists in a way have a leg up because you are limiting to gamma waves when you're in the moment or the zone or whatever you want to call that of the creative process, it actually is serving you similarly. So I know I called my sister one day. I was when I had a car, I don't know, but I was singing Avi Maria in my car. I'm like, oh my God, it's res. I see why the song was designed this way.

Speaker 1: 40:24

It was like resonating in all the same chambers, literally sinuses, and I was like that's better than chanting, I'm sorry. So I called my sister and said I just had an epiphany in my car and like I actually I'm being a little facetious, but I felt like you don't need meditation. If you're a singer, you don't need to chant. I'm sorry. And then I know, when you're playing air painting, if you're in the zone, you don't have any mental chatter. You've quieted the mental chatter. So in my world it serves a similar objective of limiting the chatter and arriving at at least I think it's. Is it theta waves or gamma waves? One of the two?

Speaker 2: 41:02

Yes, it's theta waves.

Speaker 1: 41:04

Anyway, you've quieted the mental chatter, and that that would be the goal, which, because it's, you know, synonymous with, I would think, quieting mind and ego.

Speaker 2: 41:12

Yeah, I would agree. So, to come back around a little bit to crystals, so I know you meet with people, you meet with people who are, you know, clients, and then you also have people who take classes from you. You do that online and you do it in person. What's that kind of like online? Because I know in person, you've got that, you know in body connection going on. How does it work over the internet? I guess, for my sessions online.

Speaker 3: 41:43

Actually I do 65 to 70% online. It works exactly the same. Even a phone call works the same for me when I can record it on zoom Though people love that because they get to go back and listen and there's there's things that they might not have picked up, maybe in the beginning of the hour, that they're picking up later, or there's something that came through that they that happened and I just have to tell you. I have clients tell me all the time in testimonials I have, of something that happened that was said in the session. I call it client amnesia. You get with someone and you know that didn't happen. No, I don't know anything about that.

Speaker 1: 42:16

Right.

Speaker 3: 42:17

They're like oh, that was my so and so, or oh my gosh, this happened and you were so right.

Speaker 1: 42:22

Is it resistance as well, or is it just amnesia?

Speaker 3: 42:27

I don't know what it is. I think it's just energy they're so hyped up of. I'm talking to this lady and, oh my gosh, she's going to give me all this information. The people always expect one thing and what comes out of it seems to be something else.

Speaker 1: 42:38

Wow yeah.

Speaker 3: 42:40

You know, we hype ourselves up because we just think someone else is giving me this. They got to be the greatest. This has to be. You know exactly what I need, and maybe they don't get that, but they get it in a different form and it resonates.

Speaker 1: 42:52

And I do want to ask this question from your end Is it what's on the surface at that moment right, because we're all more complex, complex organisms Is it what happens to be on the surface energetically at that moment that you pick up on?

Speaker 3: 43:08

Energetically it could be. It could be also what's about to happen. I say the difference between mediumship and the psychic part is a psychic picks up what I call current events, what's going on in your life right now, but maybe something that just happened, maybe last week or last month, right Along with current events today, along with what's about to happen in your near future. That's a psychic part. The mediumship part is tapping into loved ones that have crossed over, including our pets, and having a conversation and feeling them around. So there is two different parts to it.

Speaker 1: 43:42

I love hearing it from so sorry, Virginia. I love hearing it from you because we all have our anecdotes and our stories. But I just want to throw one thing out there. So I'm pretty loved.

Speaker 1: 43:52

I was socialized to be linear and I'm a dude right, so linear, logical, but of course I'm an artist, so I feel like I've always had a balance. But I've been exploring the nonlinear a little more. So, sure, I had my day when I was, I guess you'd say, skeptical of some things, and the one time I got a reading at a party, I think I was open, very open, but I was shocked that it was what happened to be on the surface, emotionally or energetically that day. It was a palm reading actually, I'm sorry. And yeah, I had just been with my parents and been triggered and it was like she chose and I did not know her, of course, and nothing could have been relayed to her. So that was my takeaway, like how fascinating it was really what was on the surface. Yes, it was universal in that case, but it was also what happened to be on the surface, emotionally or energetically that day. I was a live wire, you know.

Speaker 3: 44:45

I love that. I love it when you get exactly what you need. Sometimes you don't know what you need.

Speaker 1: 44:50

Yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 3: 44:51

Being a psychic or a medium, I don't know. Just tell me what's going on in my life and what comes out of. That is so beautiful because they're open to receive something and it kind of. I see shoulders roll back. I see bodies relax like, oh, it's going to be okay, I don't have to stress so much or worry so much, or, all right, there's going to be something in my future that I can trust the universe with.

Speaker 1: 45:10

Well, I was intrigued by you can tell what's I don't want to put words in your mouth, but coming or on the horizon. So again another example for my life. I once had a someone I didn't know very well say, well, you seem relentless, and I thought, holy crap, like it seemed like projection, right, because well, I don't have any ill intentions. So what could that mean? And I learned and I'm not ambitious, right, I don't have these superficial materialistic goals about power or materialism. So I didn't identify with that either and I thought that is a strong word, relentless. And then five years later I was like, okay, I'm now desperate, like financially in other areas. So I get what he meant. But I think even ambition wasn't the right word, it was just unapologetic. I was on the cusp of learning to like, own my gifts and be unapologetic, but his wording had a little projection in it.

Speaker 1: 46:05

The only other time I've actually really been impressed with something somebody else saw on the horizon that I was not in touch with because I've never actually sought a reading. They just came to me unsolicited, other than having my chart done. I have a friend who's an astrologer and she once did my chart, but in this case it stuck with me. I was at Starbucks and again, a woman I didn't know too well, but we were starting to get to know each other she very much said you need to know. After meeting me, big things happen to people. So I know very well the placebo effect, the power of suggestion, planting seeds. That's how I live my life. Even so, I've never forgotten the ominous tone of that. Big things happen to people, so maybe I shouldn't have pressed. But I said do you mean good or bad? Like an idiot, I just go good or bad and she goes. Hmm, so she didn't attach any value judgment to it, she just said just big Virginia, can you guess what happened over the next year?

Speaker 2: 47:06

Was that? Was that the Disney?

Speaker 1: 47:08

Oh no, it's a. I ended landed in the hospital for 18 days and almost lost my life, and everything's changed.

Speaker 1: 47:18

Yeah, that's, that's, that's not amazing, of course, like like you were hinting at Crystal only later did I think? Oh, okay, well, that aligns, not. Not that I manifested because the power of suggestion, but she was powerful and for her to know that about herself. I'm now living with HIV, but I almost died of full blown AIDS and meningitis and sepsis and a number of other things, and it was about a year just starting to get sick that she said that, wow, that's the proper reaction. Wow, I mean, I've never had as vivid an illustration in my life.

Speaker 3: 47:52

That's great. I mean, you know, if you're a good psychic, you're picking up the universal energy. You're not, and I do not. You're not Googling anyone, finding anything about them. You're not doing the research, you're letting spirit guide you. That's exactly how I work in my sessions. I don't. I feel like spirit doesn't have a choice or a voice any other way. So let me just be the conduit for that. Let me sit with someone's energy and what am I picking up and express to them that and how does that feel for them If that's a truth for them? Because, like you said, the power of suggestion you start telling someone this or someone that, or you say someone was molested at age five. Now their brain is going was I? Who was that and what did I? What happened to me? No wonder I probably.

Speaker 1: 48:33

It's a lot of. It's a lot of responsibility, isn't it on your part?

Speaker 3: 48:36

And it's lies that you're feeding someone's brain and now they've got to sit with that for the rest of their life. It's just wrong on so many levels. I mean, just you have to approach these things with high ethics and high morals, or just do it.

Speaker 1: 48:48

Yes, yes, yeah, because if they're doing pretty well in life and they're not triggered or they don't have PTSD, what is the value of digging in the dirt? I actually tend to respect people that have done their therapy and they know what makes them tick, right, and they know how their upbringing made them who they are. But at some point I do think you stop digging in the dirt and look forward and start manifesting what you want through a spiritual practice. But you know what I mean. Some people skip the step of digging in the dirt and they don't really know what makes them tick and of course that gets them in trouble in relationships. But do you, I guess I'm asking Crystal, do you agree with that that at some point there is no value to digging in the dirt? If you know what makes you tick and that you can sort of manifest and look to the future, does that make any sense?

Speaker 3: 49:31

It does make sense and I ask you, what is the purpose of it If we're really here to learn from each other? Me digging in the dirt, that's kind of a past thing.

Speaker 1: 49:40

Exactly, we're here for the present moment.

Speaker 3: 49:42

We're here for the present, and what's tomorrow? What's the future? How exciting can this be? You're sitting in a lower vibration when you're digging in the dirt talking about someone's pastor. It just doesn't open the heart space like we should in this life. And to grow in the energetic realms or spiritual realms whatever you want to call it you have to open up your heart space. That stuff just doesn't even matter, it goes by the wayside, it's a topic.

Speaker 1: 50:05

Yeah, Esther Hicks would just say tell a news story. That's what our podcast is about.

Speaker 3: 50:13

It just doesn't matter.

Speaker 1: 50:14

Beautiful, yeah. Well, again, I think sometimes in relationships, if people are acting on triggers and they don't know why, I just think everyone could benefit from therapy at any time. I do. But I also feel like sometimes, if you're replaying those old warble records at Infanitem, it is manifesting in its right what you put your attention on grows. So if you're perseverating about the past, you're going to get more of the same.

Speaker 2: 50:40

Well, I was going to say I love it when Crystal was just saying because that is the path that I am as a counselor, Is it? You know? Yeah, you know. Obviously, if you have something that's bothering you you don't know why, obviously you know and therapy, want to talk about that. But it's really more about, like, what Crystal said, at least for me in practice is to work on that forward motion and to realize like, okay, that happened and those things happen based off choices you made.

Speaker 2: 51:11

Other people made what you had control, but you didn't have control. But what do you have control of now and how can you move forward? And I love that you know with what Crystal is doing. It's that added part of you know. Again, it's you know okay. So I work on. You know talking, just you know career paths. You know I work on the mind, but here Crystal's working on the spiritual side, which you know you need to have a healthy spirit because, if, because to me, if you don't, if you don't feel that connection on the energetic, you know, on the energy level of the universe, it's not going to matter physically because, as we know, you know, if you're not in a good headspace, you know, on any level, biologically, physiologically, it's going to break your body down and vice versa, like it really is a whole body.

Speaker 1: 51:55

Well, I would say stress equals inflammation, inflammation equals disease. That's what Holism is about. But if you just change the words a little bit, right, stress equals inflammation, inflammation equals disease, and I have lived this over the last three years. Right? But I think sometimes, if you just think of stress as oh, emotional stress, how about that? And thoughts and feelings non-locally are energy that affect every cell of my body. Those are the connections we need to make societally.

Speaker 2: 52:25

And I and I think it you know, at least to you know the death of the spirit or the soul, or however you want to look at it, you know, if you don't focus on that. So I love, I love, crystal, that you know that. You said that because that's what went through my mind. Like you know, we need to have that forward momentum and and look toward the future and not live in the past. I like that.

Speaker 3: 52:45

Very much. We're all here to learn from each other, whether we like it or not.

Speaker 2: 52:49

So question for you, because I know Donald was sharing, like some of his experiences that he's come across, were you know he's been in. I was almost going to say impressed, but I know you weren't impressed upon because obviously they weren't guiding you to think a certain way. But you know they just said something that later on you reflected on and saw the connection when you are working with somebody is it.

Speaker 2: 53:11

is it because, again, you know, like you're saying, you know, like, how intuition is. It's it's a in the moment kind of scenario. So how does that work when you're actually, you know, working as a medium with somebody Is? Do you need to, you know, do you like some type of a meditation or get yourself in a certain head space so you are fully present to work with?

Speaker 3: 53:32

someone I do every single day, every single day, and before every session, and I sit with my clients and we set that intention. Before we even get started. I ask Spirit, divine mother, divine father, use me, let me be a conduit for your spirit this day. So I'm just the channel. Whatever comes through me is meant to be said, I am just an open channel that's coming through. It isn't my opinions, it isn't my ego, I'm just an open bridge for spirit.

Speaker 3: 53:59

And you know, there's people that come to me because their loved ones are in spirit, but there's also people that come to me just like I'm 25 years old. What does my life look like? All my parents are living and everyone I know is living and I didn't have a death. But and I'll give them this is what your life path looks like. I'll give them some advice towards that and then they feel confident in their choices and, okay, I'm on the right path. Or maybe this person I'm with isn't so good, and yeah, I've kind of been wondering about that and I'll tell them whatever comes through. So I just, I'm just open, but I do set the intention, you know, to protect us in this beautiful white light. We don't need any more harm. The world's dark enough.

Speaker 1: 54:35

Yeah.

Speaker 2: 54:36

Have you ever, like, walked by somebody and picked up on something? It's like you needed to talk, Cause I mean, you see, and I'm always saying, just because you know someone might be listening, go, I see the whole time in the movie. So I'm just curious, has that actually really ever happened to you? Like, how they show in the movies is where someone just like and you just have to reach over and like hey, you know, I just need to share this with you.

Speaker 3: 54:54

Well, I tell you, I got into this work and I had a wonderful mentor that gave me ethics and morals and guidance, and that's a big no-no.

Speaker 2: 55:03

That's a big big big boundary for me.

Speaker 3: 55:05

If people come to me, they're open to it. I would never walk up to someone in a grocery store and say your grandmother's here with a message Hollywood has made that too easy, you've got to realize these stars are followed around with the film crew and you know editing and this and that, and it doesn't flow.

Speaker 1: 55:21

Well, in any other context. There is the conventional wisdom that unsolicited advice is always criticism. So I love that advice. I just don't.

Speaker 3: 55:31

And if I have a feeling of something or if I'm someone close to someone and it nudges me twice, then I might reach out to a friend that might know a friend that knows a person. But usually no, the answer's no.

Speaker 2: 55:44

And I'm just asking, like I said, because you know somebody's going to be listening to the show and they're going to be thinking that I'm like I just wanted to get that answer for all of you out there. No, I don't do that.

Speaker 3: 55:53

There's some great big stars I won't name names, but you know that go up to people in the grocery store and say certain things, or the restaurants, and I just don't believe in it. I don't think people need that and if they want that advice, they're going to seek out a medium or they're going to get help the way they need to. The universe works in magic ways and they're going to get aligned to the people that they need to.

Speaker 2: 56:15

Yeah, no, I fully agree with you, so thank you for sharing that. That was just something important to her.

Speaker 1: 56:21

Yeah, the path it took me down is, you know, because, yes, we all know the reality shows and the celebrities that I don't know may or may not really be the real deal, you know, and there's a lot of tropes around snake oil salesmen. There's a lot of tropes around this. It's not me, you know. I mean, I am so open and of course, I live my life in this realm, but do you have anything to say, crystal, about? Are there charlatans? Are there snake oil salesmen? Or I mean, why wouldn't there be? There are in all other areas. Oh, thank you. Yeah, so do you find yourself defending your practice against those kind of tropes and stereotypes, or not?

Speaker 3: 57:03

I don't feel like I have to defend what I do. The right people will seek me out. But I can tell you a clientele that have come to me that have gone to someone else and come back to me and said well, the last person said this happened and the last person said you know, I'm gonna have more kids and the last person said you know, my mom's gonna die. First of all, I never predict death. That is not my show. That is God or source of the divine. That is, I'm a humble human being. How the heck would I know? I could tell you if someone feels ill. I could tell you that much. But do I have a date and a time? No way. I don't want that power. So for other people to be the sham's artists that they are and you know, get a programming into someone's head that when they come to me, it's truly the truth.

Speaker 3: 57:46

I come from a place of love and I don't wanna be the whole quintessential. Oh, she's all light and love. It's not that there's dark stuff. I've brought through serial killers in my readings. There's dark stuff, but I don't have to be based in that. I'm coming through with light and so what I'm sharing with them. Is this guidance, this clarity? Maybe it's an apology from a father they needed. Maybe it's, you know, an apology from a mother they needed, or something like that. Whatever comes to, I've had so many people tell me my sessions are worth more time than they've spent in counseling. This last lady said I've been going to counseling therapy for 30 years and what you gave me today gave me more relief than I've ever experienced.

Speaker 1: 58:28

Beautiful, wow. Yeah, well, it's almost like. Yeah, I agree with that, you know, I think again, it's the cognitive, conceptual part only goes so far. So in therapy, if you're throwing around conceptualizations that aren't like emotionally based, it might be more valuable to go do some ayahuasca in South America. You do have a lot of breakthroughs that come with microdosing and things like ayahuasca. Anyway, that's a beautiful thing.

Speaker 3: 58:56

I did. Virginia was saying something earlier. How, you know, people can kind of go down this I want to say rabbit hole that wasn't Virginia's words where they seek one person out and they're getting advice and maybe they're seeking something else, and what about this and what about that, and what's my answers? People can do that on, you know, plant-based medicine. I've simply been going to extremes of that and now they're doing it all the time and they can't come back to reality. People that think that they only need therapy, and I've got to keep doing this forever. Well, eventually you've got to get to your answers.

Speaker 1: 59:27

I think it's called being judicious in life, right, if you get under the wing of one guru forever, you're not learning and growing and expanding. So I think there's value to exposing yourself to all practices, right, and then being judicious about it in terms of what resonates with you. But more importantly, I heard in that and maybe I'm wrong, but a little something about the locus of control. So in the language of the soul, the book on which this podcast is based, there's a section on this idea of interior or exterior locus of control and it just means, in a way it correlates with manifestation and law of attraction circles, in that there is a subsection of the population that believes everything's done with intention or mindfulness and I manifest based on my thoughts and feelings, but also my choices, my free will. And then there's that other subsection that has this huge laundry list of grievances of why their circumstances and conditions don't reflect their desires, all the ways in which the world has wronged you.

Speaker 1: 1:00:28

It really is known as an internal or external locus of control. I guess a simpler way of putting it is some people are more suggestible. Do you find that in your practice that those that are seeking for somebody else, like I, never related to that at all. Why would I ask somebody else what's gonna happen in my life? I'm in control of that. Why would I ask them who's gonna die? Because even the people that are ill in my life, I acknowledge that they have the power to live or not, to choose.

Speaker 3: 1:00:55

I agree. I agree Everyone has the free will and that's what I'll tell my clients. They'll say well, what happens in a year or two? I say I never look more than six months out because you have the free will to change anything at any moment. I can't tell you that. I can tell what kind of is the trajectory of your life, but you're gonna choose different things at any given time. That changes that.

Speaker 1: 1:01:15

It's beautiful and that relates. When I said I didn't recognize in me what this person saw as relentless, I later learned, really it's just actually. I turned it into a positive, like yeah, too old for this shit, I just don't take no for an answer, and that I turned it into a positive thing, but this person saw it as relentless. So I think, yeah, you gotta listen, and if you see somebody is on a certain path, they may not even recognize it. So right, do you see yourself as making them aware of a trajectory because they have the free will to make lemonade out of it?

Speaker 3: 1:01:48

Yeah, a lot of people don't recognize what's in their own life because they're too busy. Like it's funny to Virginia's, like I don't even have a microsecond to myself, sort of thing Because we are so busy family, friends, work, career, whatever's going on in our life and we're planning the next day and planning the next day to step back into. Oh yeah, I really did like art from age seven to 15. And when I'm like, oh, you're supposed to be an artist, what it's doing to them is triggering them of. Yeah, I should get back into that and maybe that's this beautiful calling that comes out of that that they would have never even thought of again because they're way too busy.

Speaker 1: 1:02:21

That's beautiful and that's why I facetiously said what really matters a while ago, right, because to me I think the pandemic was a big opportunity to slow the F down. And whether we all took it or not is another story right, societally and individually. But I think that is one of the biggest stressor in my life is when I'm in a hurry, you miss all the signs the universe is throwing in your path, you know. So I can't judge anyone that's juggling this and that, but I do think for me it's quality over quantity. So it's more important to be aligned than it is to please everybody all the time, because you're actually doing a disservice at some point. If you're aligned, you have more to offer your friends and family.

Speaker 3: 1:03:05

Oh, completely.

Speaker 1: 1:03:06

And one little caveat, at the risk of preaching, but this is actually quite important to me. It's been my big learning curve of the past three years the health crisis. I call it my brush with death, and that's not an exaggeration. So when people say and they in my head right, nobody's actually said it, but that kind of striving for alignment is a luxury, or maybe it sounds like a let them eat cake attitude, I will say, well then, you've clearly never had a brush with death. So the universe does speak louder and louder to get our attention.

Speaker 1: 1:03:39

And if I preach a little bit about prioritizing the mind, body, spirit connection, or being centered or being aligned, call it what you want I'm trying to save people from waiting until their health catches up with them. Right as we were saying earlier, your thoughts and feelings constitute your emotional stress and if it gets too out of check it becomes inflammation that becomes disease. So if I again sound like I have the luxury of spouting these idealistic notions, just know that I had no choice. It was life or death for me. If anything, I'm actually trying to get people to pay attention to the mind, body, spirit connection before it's too late and disease takes hold. I don't think it's ever too late, but sometimes you have to catch things early.

Speaker 3: 1:04:28

Oh, completely, and you get in the flow. I like to say you're in the flow when, let's say, you're painting and it's eight hours of passing, you're like, oh, where'd the whole day go? That's your flow. When you're in that flow, that's exactly where we're supposed to be. I mean the divine, creator, source, whatever you want to call it. God said we each have individual gifts. Now go use them. There's some people that come to me and they're working behind a computer screen and they're so stressed out and their job is crazy. And when I sit with them I'm like, ooh, you're supposed to be with people. You thrive working with people. Right now you're chaotic and your body feels all crunched up and tight because you're not doing what's supposed to be your sole purpose in this life. And maybe that will trigger them to go apply for a different job that puts them in front of people, or a different career path, or what people really, really want to know when they come to me is is it going to be OK if?

Speaker 1: 1:05:20

What if it is? They want permission? Sounds like permission.

Speaker 3: 1:05:23

Yeah. Can I trust myself to move to Europe for a year? Is everything going to be OK in my family? Is this and this going to be all right if I make this choice? And the answer is always yes. If you're getting that calling and that's your intuition nudging you and you can't get it out of your mind to move to Europe, go.

Speaker 2: 1:05:42

That's exactly what you're going to do Crystal?

Speaker 1: 1:05:44

I want you to know we do have an agenda here on this podcast Like it's subtle, right, but I think there's an agenda.

Speaker 1: 1:05:51

How could there not be? But it's the agenda of the book, which is just simply that I do think we're all wired by evolution to realize our capacity and potential and thereby contribute to the collective. So there's all kinds of things that take us off course, right, and I do think we're in touch with it as children, as you hinted at. But I think we do have innate gifts, authentic gifts that are unique to each one of us, but actually, in a very empirical way, we are wired to contribute them to the collective, because that's what evolution is right. If we're always transforming on a personal level, on the macro level, evolve or die, does that make a little bit of sense? We're wired, yeah, ok, we're wired to contribute to the collective, because it's very empirical, because we're wired to propagate as a species. So you can frame it in a number of ways, but that's the most sort of empirical way I can frame it is like we're actually wired to quiet the voices of doubt, stand in our gifts, own them and then contribute them.

Speaker 3: 1:06:57

Yeah, the power of corporate America and having a McDonald's nation of I want everything right now and I get my results in five minutes has diminished our power of intuition. So the people that I ask a question I should have an answer right now and again go back to the answer isn't here yet. Maybe something that's resonating in your soul for 20 years and then you act on it is actually teaching you to be a good mother or a good father to the children that you're going to raise. That's how you're acting on it.

Speaker 1: 1:07:24

Beautiful. Yeah, I just think you're really doing a wonderful service, is my point. You're not just giving permission, but you're recognizing, maybe the gifts that are languishing in people and you pick up on it. I just heard that in something you said.

Speaker 3: 1:07:40

Yeah, that's exactly it, thank you, you're doing good work.

Speaker 1: 1:07:43

Oh, we're kindred spirits, I think, and it takes a crisis in a lot of cases for people to say, look, I'm still on the planet, I meant to step into my purpose. But it sometimes takes a big. It's called a crucible right. Lay it in your path to step into that sense of purpose or that calling or that ministry, whatever you want to call it. I don't think everyone necessarily needs to send a rocket into space, right? But in your grassroots circles there probably is a gift that you could contribute. Does that make sense to you guys?

Speaker 3: 1:08:15

Absolutely. I mean, you go back to the pioneer days when we did trades. I have a chicken, you have a goat, we got a trade.

Speaker 1: 1:08:22

Oh, yes, yes, it takes a village.

Speaker 3: 1:08:23

We didn't have the same things, we wouldn't be able to barter.

Speaker 1: 1:08:26

Beautiful we have different gifts.

Speaker 3: 1:08:27

We have to have different capabilities to share with the universe, right To share with everyone.

Speaker 1: 1:08:32

Well, I say amen to all of it, really, even the political divide. Again, I had that thought this morning, like it takes a while. But believe it or not, if you have faith that every particle of the universe is really just out and call it what you want propagate, persist, consciousness, not just the human species, but we're out to just survive and propagate Well then you can understand the pendulum swings politically and their value. You can understand our really faulted two-party system in a way. But I call it saying amen to all the forces. I'm not militant. I hope to be an example in some ways and then I hope to make my difference through my art. But that doesn't mean somebody who's out there marching right for this cause or that one is doing it wrong. I say amen to all of it. Does that make sense? It takes a village.

Speaker 3: 1:09:22

Oh, completely, and we're all unique. That's why we have different fingerprints.

Speaker 1: 1:09:26

Nobody's the same Beautiful yeah.

Speaker 2: 1:09:29

That's beautiful. So, Crystal, and you can totally say no to this. So usually when we have guests come on, they'll share like a snippet of like a book or something like that. Obviously, you're a medium. I don't know if you're up to maybe doing like a small little read. If that would be something you would even be willing to entertain, because this is what you do.

Speaker 3: 1:09:52

Yeah, I don't know about a read today, just because I kind of didn't prepare for that, but I can give you a couple little examples of reads that I have done. That'd be great, beautiful. I once read for this gal her father had passed. I don't even think it had been a year that he had been passed. And I'm going to give you an example of the client, amnesia right, and I'm telling her all these things that are coming through and I just kept seeing this costume.

Speaker 3: 1:10:21

Her father was giving me signs and symbols, he was around her and all these things and I was. I had an age, I had how he looked, and I said he just keeps dressing in a costume. And she says, no, no, I don't know what that is. So I just, you know, gave her some more things, talked for another half an hour.

Speaker 3: 1:10:35

I went by and said, well, this is the second time he's showing me a costume and it's so big that I feel like I have this big head on and I'm zipping up the back of the costume. And she says, no, no, no, that's not my dad. Finally, before the end of the call, I tell her all right, well, I know that your father gave that to me two or three times to say that he was here with you. And if you can't resonate with that, I'm going to let that go, because if spirit shows it to me over and over, it's important. And she said well, my dad did always dress up as smokey the bear and come to my school once a month. Who dresses up as smokey the bear?

Speaker 1: 1:11:09

How much later was that that she made the connection.

Speaker 3: 1:11:11

It was within the hour the very end of the hour, but she didn't recognize it at all. She was thinking of her adult father that passed now and he was showing me a memory when she was gone.

Speaker 1: 1:11:21

I've actually seen that in the talk show, all those silly things that we have in our heads. I have seen that in the talk shows where only at the very end of the reading they go oh yeah, okay, wait, that just clicked.

Speaker 3: 1:11:32

It just didn't resonate with her at all. But the whole time this was his memory and saying she'll remember this, she'll remember this. Well, the guy had worked for the Forest Service.

Speaker 1: 1:11:39

Right.

Speaker 3: 1:11:40

He had dressed like smokey bear and if you go back, I mean this is kind of dating us when we're older, you know with smokey the bear. So it was just really poignant to me of not to give up a piece of evidence that he was truly trying to get through to her Right.

Speaker 3: 1:11:52

Love it yeah, and there's other times where I just was on another podcast I mentioned this same story that I had a gal that her 13 year old daughter had committed suicide and the daughter kept coming through with this bear and I didn't like all I could do is describe the bear and she was unsure.

Speaker 3: 1:12:09

You know, she's like I don't know, I don't know, and I was talking about her daughter and the bear came up numerous times and I could clearly see this bear and it had stars all over it, but the material felt different, like the head part and the body part felt different to me. Anyway, this is something that came later. A week later she had told me that she had given some of her daughter's clothing, like the pajama, bottoms and a shirt to this lady to sew a bear for her. And when she showed me the picture of that bear, it had stars all over it, star buttons, black guys. The head was different material than the body and it was just something that I couldn't make up that. It was just something she showed me that it was in my clairvoyant, I could clearly see it and I was explaining to her mother, but I couldn't make it up. It wasn't even made yet.

Speaker 1: 1:12:56

What color was the bear?

Speaker 3: 1:12:57

It was the material of her jogging pants or her jammy pants, and it was like a light blue with yellow stars, and then the lady had some yellow buttons on it.

Speaker 1: 1:13:06

You probably said that, sorry if I missed it.

Speaker 3: 1:13:08

Yeah, no, it was quite amazing to see a picture of something that came later. Or I'll explain to someone in a picture of, this is what your father looks like to me. Or I'll say he's got a mustache, he's wearing a hat. No, no, no, not my dad. And then they'll pull out an old photo and send it to me and I'm like that's the picture I was seeing. You know, people want evidence of right now. Well, this is how I remember the person in this moment.

Speaker 3: 1:13:29

Or if truly, this was my mom or dad, they would tell me the one word and the one thing that would make it them. Well, that's not what happens when we go to the other side. We go back to the wholeness of our soul. We don't go back to all the stuff we collected and all the little trinkets they might give me some of that evidence but we go back to the wholeness and that is pure love. So when they come through, they're actually saying tell my daughter I love them, tell my son I miss them, tell them I'm sorry. Blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 3: 1:13:56

Whatever their story is right and the person sitting in front of me might have a chip on their shoulder and ego. If that's not really my dad, are you sure you're talking to my dad and kind of get all defensive? Well truly, this man I'm talking to is coming from a place of love. This is their daughter and I'll give them dates or months or birthdays or other things that are significant. That ties this person to them, that they can't deny. But then they still can't shake off this other little bit of evidence.

Speaker 1: 1:14:22

So what I hear, and tell me if this, what I hear in that a little bit is, we do have a core essence and I call it the soul, right, but then our form changes over time. So maybe these loved ones are the person for whom you're doing the reading is looking for the form but not the core essence of the person.

Speaker 3: 1:14:42

Oh, completely, and they get in their ego. I had one person truly tell me look, my brother died and we have to get his password to his phone. Can you get that? No, your brother went on and he's all in love. He could give two craps password. You guys will figure it out or you won't. Right, people want you know the numbers to the lottery they want. I want it now because my ego says I want it now. That is not our true essence of our soul.

Speaker 1: 1:15:10

Okay, can I trip you guys out real quick? I mean, do with this what you will, but this may be an opportunity. Maybe you'll have something to say about this crystal. So I think you said sometimes you know there are expectations, but then something else will come through that somebody didn't expect at all. All I want to say is, you know, when Virginia was kind of prompting you a little bit toward doing a reading today, I had wanted her to ask you in advance so you would be prepared emotionally. If you know and it was all under the guise of, like you know, promoting your practice or your brand or whatever I think it was logical to try to do a reading, but of course I wanted you to know in advance, so I didn't spring it on you. Virginia very nicely tried to steer that direction on my behalf.

Speaker 1: 1:15:53

My mom passed in January. It's only been about two months and I don't want to go on and on. But you know I feel like there's a lot of closure and the family is. There's not a whole lot of healing. Of course grief takes many forms. We'll see what happens, but she has been visiting in my dreams and it feels very sweet, like I just had a great visit with my mom, but that's kind of the extent of it. You know, we're still in the mode of memorializing her and her legacy and it just feels, I feel at peace. Who knows what will happen tomorrow or next week. Right, grieving and mourning is a process, but point is just now what you said. All right, I'm not going to do a reading because I didn't prepare, but let me give you some examples.

Speaker 1: 1:16:39

My mom was a customer. My mom and I'm looking at a picture of her right now and she's wearing strangely is the 70s, so she has bamboo on her, captain, maybe, or whatever she's wearing bamboo. She had a dementia and Alzheimer's or I guess dementia and not Alzheimer's toward the end. So she kind of slipped away to her core essence, of course, which is nothing but love. But for two years before that, before she was bedridden, before she was in home hospice, she tried to finish this.

Speaker 1: 1:17:13

We called it the fucking panda. She's a customer. And then, as she was slipping away, it was her last ditch effort to really have a project right and be engaged and be invested. But this panda costume sat in their laundry room for two years and it was a source of ire because we didn't realize she was desperately trying to retain her identity, but it would just become a running joke Like when is she going to finish that panda? And she finally put it out by the road like somebody was going to buy it. But point is she was a customer and when you were describing, the head is different than the body. She was a sculpted foam rubber panda. So as you were giving those examples, I'm like, hey, that's the, that's my mom talking to me.

Speaker 1: 1:17:58

I love that I love that possible, like a second hand, a second hand visit.

Speaker 3: 1:18:03

Absolutely. When I do group readings, that's what I tell everyone. If it's resonating with you, it's meant for the whole. Someone's father might come through with the messages for you as well, and that's so ironic that I chose that story. It's not funny to give you a reading any other time. Okay, and I wanted to mention she's coming to you in your dreams. Those are called visitations. That's not just your dream state. They do that when our when winter in our REM sleep and we're the most relaxed that she can truly get through.

Speaker 1: 1:18:31

Beautiful. Well, yeah, I've always. Again, I don't want to go on, but you know, if I dream, even if I've dreamt of arguing with somebody, and you wake up and there's this residual like, oh, I need to resolve that. So I've always felt like they were there on some other plane and we just spent time together. And my grandfather long after his passing same thing. He was kind of foggy and remote when I knew him the entire time I knew him and yet in my dreams he was very lucid and I was. He was his core essence, maybe a younger version of himself. But at one point this was in the 90s he was the only one in the room in the dream that could fix the VCR. Like he jumped and I was like, oh my God, that's the grandpa I never knew like the younger one. Anyway, I've always rolled that way Like, okay, I just had a nice visit. Truly, I love that.

Speaker 1: 1:19:18

Anyway, yeah, thank you. Even though you didn't do a reading for me, I felt like my mom said hello through that bear.

Speaker 3: 1:19:24

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 1: 1:19:25

Yeah, I'm projecting. I guess I'm seeing what I want to see.

Speaker 3: 1:19:30

I would take that Definitely.

Speaker 1: 1:19:32

Well, thank you In that case. Thank you Sorry.

Speaker 2: 1:19:36

There's always something to projection.

Speaker 1: 1:19:37

Right.

Speaker 2: 1:19:38

You know you can, you can do it. They truly are positively, so I think that was a positive one. Crystal, can you share some of the events that you? I mean, I know there are obviously mostly in your local area, but can you just share some of the events you got coming up and where people can learn more about you as well? Oh sure.

Speaker 3: 1:19:56

Yeah, I do them in my local area. I also attend the energy healing conference and that's kind of northern Utah, southern Utah, where I'm just doing back to back readings. People can sign up then I try to give back to the community as much as I can. So I have a working at the hive therapy here the first Saturday of every month. This is here in St George where I'll do a group reading and that's just donation based. Whoever shows up, whatever comes through in the matter of two hours.

Speaker 3: 1:20:24

I'm constantly teaching classes on intuition or how to connect to your spirit guides. I just did a past life meditation the other night, just kind of dabbling in what really, what my clients are asking for is what I'm trying to fine tune for them. People are kind of afraid to step outside that box against. Some do like it on zoom. The classes are in person or on zoom because then they got the recording for themselves and can go back and listen. I last year I attended Yenon fire. I think I'm going to sign up this year. That's a big event in Cedar City. This year they're expecting 3333 people and it's just a big event. It's kind of like Burning man but camping event.

Speaker 1: 1:21:07

It's yeah.

Speaker 3: 1:21:09

It was. It was amazing last year to see they have, you know, water slides and food and you bring your RV and you camp for three days and it was all workshops and classes and from anything from astrology to you know, metaphysical, anything you could think of. It was just, it was just beautiful.

Speaker 1: 1:21:26

I love the idea of we are wrapping it up here, but just the idea of, you know, especially post pandemic, when there was so much isolation coming together with kindred spirits, not that we want to live in a bubble, but, right, like minded people and kindred spirits. And my book talks about movements. You know how does one person with vision become a movement? So do you feel a synergy and all those kindred spirits coming together physically in the same location?

Speaker 3: 1:21:52

Oh, completely. The vibration is so high when you have more people, when you have a group of 10, it's high. When you have 300, it's huge.

Speaker 1: 1:22:01

Yeah well, brain waves sink at a drama circle right at, certainly at music events like Woodstock. I find it fascinating if you watch video of Woodstock now 50, how many years later you can watch Santana sort of jamming and you know they're in this zone right Also, probably shrewing or on acid, but it transcends 50 something years later you feel the vibration. So anyway, I think that's everything. When we are tuned to one another, we can change the world.

Speaker 3: 1:22:32

Absolutely thank you for this. Has been my honor. Just so insightful.

Speaker 1: 1:22:38

Well, no, it's the other way around. We learned a lot and again, we will listen to this later and find more in it. That's the beauty. I always hear more later. So, thank you, we're very lucky to have you. Yes, thank you Again.

Speaker 3: 1:22:49

it was my honor. Thank you.

Speaker 1: 1:22:52

And yeah, your links will be in the description, by the way, the bio and then the links, any links you want to provide.

Speaker 2: 1:22:58

Yep, beautiful, all right. Well, thank you so much for coming on, crystal. Thank you guys have a great day.

Speaker 1: 1:23:04

Take care and for our listeners, remember life is a story and we can get our hands in the clay individually and collectively. We can write our own story. See you next time you.