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Columbia is a country that comes up a lot in the expat spaces as a country that a lot of American and Canadian expats are interested in moving to. And not only that, a lot of you're also interested in buying land, may be homesteading, maybe farming. Well, our guest today on the Entrepreneur Expat Expat Stories series actually does both. She lives in Columbia and her family owns a farm in Columbia. So for those of you who are dreaming about that. Finca life, this. Episode is for you. I'm interviewing El Ramlow, who full disclosure, uh, is one of my clients from back in the day for business consulting and she has since moved to Columbia with her husband and she's learning a lot about small town living in Columbia and farm life in Columbia, and she's bringing those experiences to you today. She is also an astrologer and not only is she an astrologer, she is an astrologer. Who uses that skill and talent to help businesses create visual brands based on their astrology. So talk about a really unique business and a really unique value proposition. And since she is an astrologer. We talked a little bit about maybe the astrology of the United States right now, because boy, are things looking real interesting over there at the moment. And we also talked a little bit about astrocartography. And if you don't know what Astrocartography is, it's where you can use astrology to find, uh, where some of the best places in the world for you might be. A lot of people swear by it, and we made, we made a tiny little mention of where to find, uh, if you had past lives. In another country because sometimes you guys come to us and you're like, oh, I just have this like weird pull toward this country. There's no logical reason for it. And that's usually a sign that according to astrologers, you may have had a past life in that country. We only went into, um. Kind of surface level of some of these things. If you guys want Elizabeth back L for a part two where we go deeper into astrology, we go deeper into Astrocartography and how to use it to pick a place to live, then let us know in the comments below because it's truly. A fascinating topic and a fascinating tool when you start getting into it. Alright guys, if you like this kind of content, make sure to subscribe. Hit the notification bell and hit the like so we can get this in front of as many entrepreneur expats, and aspiring entrepreneur expats as possible. We have more interviews coming out with x. Fats living all over the world, making money in all kinds of ways to inspire those of you who've been thinking about doing it, toying with the idea of doing it, dipping your toe in it, obsessively watching YouTube videos about it, but not actually doing anything about it. We've got those interviews coming to you for inspiration so you can finally bite the bullet and get something done. And for those of you who've been asking about relocation services in different countries, we're partnering with people all over the world that we can start referring to you. So we will be doing interviews. With them as well. And a final note here, if you are interested in running a location, independent business, or perhaps optimizing the current business that you already have so that you can do it online and from anywhere in the world, then apply to work with us at Entrepreneur X. pat.com/apply. Justin and I have over 15 years of experience in digital marketing. On the last interviews you've been seeing, you've seen three people who've been customers and clients of ours. Probably more actually at this point, but at least in the last few, you've seen at least three, and they're doing quite well. So if you wanna be one of them, go to entrepreneur expat.com. Forward slash apply and we would be more than happy to, uh, get you started or point you in the right direction. Alright guys, let's get into this fascinating conversation about farm life in Columbia Astrocartography. Uh, oh, one final thing that I forgot to mention. We also, I also asked Elizabeth. Uh, this question l this question, which was all about, uh, something that comes up in the comments all the time, which is what do you do right? When one spouse wants to move abroad and the other one doesn't? Because l like myself, like Diana, who I recently interviewed, and like a lot of people. That I've interviewed ended up in another country because of their spouse. So for those of you, uh, particularly the men who keep, uh, bringing this up, the single men who are like, oh, we're the women who wanna travel the world, we exist, right? Because I'm one of them. Elle's one of them. Diana's one of them. Um, so we talk a little bit about that as well. Okay, now let's get into the interview.

Amanda Abella:

Hello and welcome to another episode of entrepreneur expat for our expat stories series We are bringing you interviews with American and Canadian expats Living all over the world and a European too now that I think about it also some European expats on This expat story series because we're showing you guys how people are living in multiple different countries and making money online While doing it to inspire you and also share a lot of the wacky stories that come with expat stories Today, I'm here with Elizabeth Romslow and she lives in a country that a lot of you have been asking about which is Columbia, Columbia comes up all the time. Not only that, uh, Elizabeth or L as I know her also makes money online in a very unique way, which I'm very happy to highlight. And in addition to that, her family is now building a farm in Columbia. And a lot of you, I know are into that farm life too. So this is going to be a very interesting conversation. Thank you so much for being here and sharing your experience with us.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, absolutely. Pick my brain all you want. I'm happy to be here. Thanks for having me.

Amanda Abella:

I'm about to pick your brain for the whole audience asking about Columbia So before getting into how you ended up in Columbia farm life all that stuff, which I know they're dying to hear about I also know that a lot of people where they really struggle more than anything in making their expat life come true Is how do I make money? So How do you make money?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I am a brand designer and the unique thing that I do is I utilize my client's astrological birth chart to be the springboard for the design, all of the concepts, so on and so forth. That's what I do.

Amanda Abella:

So it's a brilliant concept. You've read my chart before and you've told me a couple things and because I, I know you, you've been in some of our business training programs in the past, I actually started learning more about that stuff. And I was like, wait a minute. Uh, so my messaging is actually this and my values are actually this. And I started doing it based actually entrepreneur expat started because of astrology.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

There you go.

Amanda Abella:

There you go. So here we are. The shit works. In other words, for the non believers, start believing. Um, okay, great. So you basically are a brand designer. For somebody who may not know what that is, what, cause we have all kinds of generations who watch this. What exactly is a brand designer?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

So I help businesses zero in, not just on the logo. That's usually the first thing that people think of when they're like, well, I'm starting a business. I need to put my stamp on everything that, like, you know, sums up everything that I do in like one little image. Uh, I, I start with, uh, the verbal branding and work with them on messaging and then move into the visual branding and then I also help them with. what I call the kinesthetic branding, which is deciding on their client experience. So it really is a holistic approach. I call it the brand grimoire. Um, that's my, my three spheres of, of branding the verbal visual and kinesthetic. So it's what you say, how you say it, uh, the, the colors and the fonts. as well as your logo and then also the experience that you deliver for your client. That's also, um, that's also a brand. Uh, I love to give the example of Lush. A lot of people know that cosmetic company. Even if you've never been in the store, you've probably smelled it if you've been in a mall and there's, it's just such a great example of a brand experience because they're so consistent from one store to another, uh, the people that they hire, the personalities, um, when you walk in, it's like sort of sensory overload. They're usually always doing, um, a demonstration of their bath bombs and they usually send you home with like a little freebie. Even if you had a conversation about something and decided not to buy, they'll send it, send you home with a little bit of it anyway. Um, At least that's been my experience. So yeah, that's, did I answer your question? Is that

Amanda Abella:

you

Elizabeth Romsloe:

what branding is? Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

a really great example actually so to sum it up for people Uh brand you work with businesses on their branding and you work with them on their messaging which is like speaking to your clientele. And you also work with them on the visuals to making sure that it's consistent and it actually works, which when businesses figure that out, they make a lot of money. So lesson number one here, um, for the audience listening is if you want to make money online and sell to people with money, businesses usually have money, so if you do more B2B stuff, you're more likely to start making money a lot faster. And in your case, you have a skill that lends itself to B2B. Okay. A

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Absolutely.

Amanda Abella:

It's a whole lot easier than trying to make money off of YouTube ads, which I know some of y'all listen and keep trying to do. So Yeah, find a marketable skill and sell it to people with money. Boom. Solved. Okay, so you have that part figured out. I know when you and I met a few years ago, you had not moved to Colombia yet. So you were already doing this before you moved, which was smart. Because a lot of people, sometimes they'll email us and they'll be like, Oh my god, I'm in Mexico and I have no idea how I'm going to make money. And we're like, shouldn't you have figured that out before? You like made the leap probably right so that was smart. Um, Now that being said if you already made the leap doesn't mean you can't figure it out But if we're gonna do it the smartest way possible figure out how to make money online first then go move somewhere else So you ended up in columbia a lot of our audience is interested in columbia Uh, did you ever I know I know the story so I don't want to get ahead But um, did you ever think you were going to end up in columbia?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Columbia? No. Um, I had no idea. I have known for a very long time that I, well, I have said several times, I would be happy if I rolled out of the bed into the ocean. Like, you know, I would be happy living in a hut

Amanda Abella:

Yeah

Elizabeth Romsloe:

if that was the case. Like, I am a beach girl. I love hot weather. Um, I, which is a little bit funny when you know that I'm half Norwegian, and I have also said many times, I think that the reason Vikings became such intrepid sailors is that they were searching for better weather. Um, so my, in fact, my, my father was really who, who's the Norwegian. He was the one who was, uh, a true Caribbean fanatic. So, um, A few years ago, I was really starting to make the, make some plans to move to the Caribbean. Uh, I have a cousin on St. Thomas, and

Amanda Abella:

We were

Elizabeth Romsloe:

so I was in the process of investigating that. Uh, yeah, and I, I mean, I just, I remember thinking in like personal development courses and like, Visioning, like where, where would you live? Blah, blah, blah. It was always me trying to make the sensible vision. Like I want, I want like beachfront property or whatever. And I'd be like, well, maybe Galveston, Texas, or maybe like coastal Georgia. Like something that like makes sense. Uh, screw that. Don't, don't try to make your dreams make sense. If you want to go somewhere, go there.

Amanda Abella:

second person I interviewed this week who said that. And I think if I'm looking at the audience and things like that, and it's not just with moving to other countries, it's everything. We all get so caught up in the logical and the logistics of all of it that it never happens.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, exactly. Uh, also, this is a little bit of a tangent, but I feel that I should probably share this story because it, it's a little bit, it's a little bit sad, but also I think it'll serve a lot of people. I was having a conversation with my mother just a few years ago. I think it was right in the thick of pandemic. I was visiting my parents And so this was like summer of 2020 and at this point I think my mom is like 72. She and I were having like a cocktail on the patio after dinner and we were just talking and I was trying to like get to know her better, like more like an adult to adult type of situation. And I said, Hey mom, if you could live anywhere in the world, Where would you live? And I was fully expecting her to pick some place like Paris. She was a huge Francophile as she would have called herself. Um, she loved everything French. Um, or maybe even New York. She lived in New York right after graduating, um, Wharton business school. And, um, didn't really have the opportunity to like, do the thing that she came to do there because she had to move back home to take care of her father. And. The answer broke my heart. She's like, I don't know. No one's ever asked me that question before. So here she was at like 72 and like she was born, raised and lived her entire life in, in and around Philadelphia. Like I'm, I'm proud to be from Philly. I am a Philly girl heart, like through and through, but like, get me out of where I came from.

Amanda Abella:

Right.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

so Always, like, even if you don't do anything with the answer to that question, ask yourself that question. If I could live anywhere, don't make it logical, don't bother about the how. If I could live anywhere in the world, and then go take a trip. See, see what it's, see what it's like. If you've never been, but if you have been, you already know. Ha ha ha.

Amanda Abella:

I mean, you're into astrology. We can get into this whole thing about like past lives and countries people think they belonged to and all that too. That is a whole trippy conversation.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

astrocartography too,

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

where different places on the planet hit your birth chart in different ways.

Amanda Abella:

Oh, we're going to have to have you back just to do an episode on that. That's a whole thing. When I met

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh

Amanda Abella:

his astrocartography. Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

yeah.

Amanda Abella:

mine too. Yeah. Guadalajara, it's like a Uranus line for him. So I'm like, it could be good or bad. It could go either way. Right. But it's like really transformational. And then growing up, I thought like, Oh, yeah, I'm going to go live in New York City. But I think I have like my Saturn line going right through New York City. And I

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Ooh.

Amanda Abella:

do that. Um, also I had Saturn line going straight through Miami, just like the whole east coast of the United States, which is weird, because I

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

but,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

It's,

Amanda Abella:

but it also

Elizabeth Romsloe:

it's hard work.

Amanda Abella:

It's hard work. Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

It's work, um, I don't remember where any of our venus lines were I think he had his venus line going through eastern europe, which I was like Well, that's interesting because you you are eastern european on one side. So Anyway, uh, i've dabbled in astro cartography So

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

come back and we'll do an episode just on astro cartography because we'll be here forever And past lives in the astrology chart and where you should end up Uh in the world, so you end up in columbia You Right? How exactly did you end up in Colombia, which it's interesting that you said you would always end up near the water because, uh, your

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I'm not.

Amanda Abella:

well, you're not, you're not, but you're not like super far from Cartagena either, and Cartagena's like pretty Caribbean.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Well, yeah, it is the Caribbean. Um, and so it was Barranquilla.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

yeah. Another phrase that I say over and over is I can't believe I moved this close to the equator to still be two hours away from the ocean. Like, um, so how did I get here?

Amanda Abella:

Yeah. Hmm

Elizabeth Romsloe:

So 10 years ago we met, we were both personal trainers in a gym. We dated for a year and it was. Um, we parted ways and, um, yeah, for like almost a decade and reconnected. I can't remember. I think I may have like drunkenly sent him a Facebook messenger about, stem cell therapy that I remembered he was researching because he, he has no, uh, he has no meniscus in one of his knees. Um, so he was really big into that and I was researching it from my hip at that point. Um, so we started chit chatting and this was in towards the end of the pandemic and chit chatted, reconnected, Oh, we're a hell of a lot more aligned And then I remember us being, and he's like, I am interested in doing this, but I am really committed to moving back home. Um, he had been in the States for, I mean, he's a US citizen as well. He'd been in the States for almost 20 years at that point. His ex wife is the one, is the reason that he was in the U. S. to begin with. Um, and I was like, you know, I am kind of not feeling this whole U. S. thing. Um, I was a little disillusioned with how COVID was handled. Um, and also I just knew that I wanted to be someplace warm. Going through, uh, this is sort of a sidebar, but going through, uh, withdrawal from psychiatric medications had me very, very, very depressed. And every time I had to walk my dog in the cold, it was like an existential crisis. So I was, I was like, I'm, I'm about to be 40 years old. Like, I, I know I'm not going to miss the seasons. Like everyone keeps telling me. So I was like, okay, well, you know, if we're going to get back together and like, make a thing of this, you should probably take me there. To see if, to see if I like it. And so we did, and it was fun. I was like, this is, they shut the water off at night. Like, Like, thank you Elon Musk for Starlink. This is not an ad. But um, This, this little town, um, God love it, it's, it's a little bit off the beaten path where I ended up. Um, but yeah, I, I was not scared away, uh, and, and so I said, okay, yeah, we, we can, we can keep going down this. going down this path and, um, we moved, our flight was on May 1st of 2023. 10 suitcases, a guitar, two personal items, and a husky.

Amanda Abella:

Oh daisy loves huskies, where's daisy she's not here with me. That's our golden. She has an obsession with huskies We do not understand it. Like she will not pay attention anybody else. She sees a husky coming across the street and she's already like We're like, what are you

Elizabeth Romsloe:

That's really interesting because usually it's backwards. Usually dogs have, um, really do not like huskies. Usually.

Amanda Abella:

Daisy's obsessed with huskies

Elizabeth Romsloe:

That's so funny.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, she has a husky friend named Luna in the neighborhood. She's totally

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Well,

Amanda Abella:

be out and there's like a husky walking around, like she'll get up, she'll start looking. All the rest of them she doesn't even pay attention to. I mean, she wants to be friends with everybody. She's a golden. But, like, she won't really pay attention. But if she sees a husky, she's like, a double

Elizabeth Romsloe:

uh, I must say hi. Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

not here. I think she's with her

Elizabeth Romsloe:

No, no, no, no. I'm saying like, that's what she says.

Amanda Abella:

Oh.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

it's probably better. The, the, the intense fascination than an intense fear. Um, and you know, I'm surprised. It's funny that you say like, oh, there's a husky named Luna in the neighborhood. Like, remember, like you're in, you're in Mexico. There's like,

Amanda Abella:

There's dogs everywhere.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

there's probably at least we'll know what I was going to say. There's probably at least 10 other huskies in this city. Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

Oh, really?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Like, in Columbia, where it's like 90 degrees most of the time.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, well the thing that, that struck me about Mexico is I've never seen so many dogs in one neighborhood before. Like,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Mm.

Amanda Abella:

their freaking dogs here. Uh,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Really?

Amanda Abella:

yeah, or I mean there's street dogs too, depending on where you go. Not like where we are, but in other parts of Mexico, like street dogs Like, there's just dogs everywhere. Like, it's

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, there are a lot of, there are a lot of street dogs here.

Amanda Abella:

like dogs, don't come to Mexico. Basically, just, just don't do it, because they're everywhere. Okay, so you end up in Colombia, you followed your

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yes.

Amanda Abella:

too ended up following my husband to Mexico, similar situation. He was already an expat, he'd already lived in other countries, he was pretty clear that he did not want to live in the United States, for lot of reasons, and um, I was like, same thing. I was like, well, maybe I should like go check it out. Maybe And I ended up liking, uh, Guadalajara, but we ended up to a bunch of different places. I was like, no, actually the city's pretty cool. And he often tells me, he was like, I would have moved out of there if it wasn't for you and like you liking the city and seeing it like through your eyes in a, in a new way. Cause I hadn't even realized the stuff that you, you were picking up on. And we love it here. We, we enjoy it a lot. It's a cool city. Okay. So we do have a lot of men. It's interesting because you're the second person I interviewed this week for this podcast and you're the second one to tell me I got, I followed my husband. Basically, uh, because

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yep.

Amanda Abella:

interviewed someone who followed her husband in Northern Ireland and um, I was like, okay See, there's I think of the men who reach out to us a lot of the time Or the comments that we get sometimes on the youtube channel usually men Uh, sometimes women, right, but I think women have an easier time convincing their husbands of doing things than maybe the other way around.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Perhaps.

Amanda Abella:

Uh, perhaps, uh, we have a bit more influence, but a lot of times it's the men who are asking, Um, who are in these situations where, like, I'm trying to get my spouse on board, or I'm trying to get my fiancé on board. We've had people tell us that they broke off engagements because they couldn't get the woman on board with, actually, they were looking at Mexico or Colombia, uh, the man was. And I'm trying, so every time I hear a woman who, like, followed her husband, uh, to another country and just went for it, I'm like, look, we exist! It happens. We're here.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

so what suggestions would you have, because your husband had to kind of like, not convince you, but, you know, it had to be a conversation, obviously, just like it was for us. So what advice would you have to all the people in our comments and in our emails who, because I swear to you, this comes up once or twice a week, at least,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

like, how do I get my spouse on board or my fiance on board or my significant other on board?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I have a question about the person who moved to Ireland. Was she the daughter of? Of immigrants also.

Amanda Abella:

I don't think so. Actually.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

okay. So I was just like doing like a quick recon in my head. Like that's something that you and I have in common. I

Amanda Abella:

has

Elizabeth Romsloe:

think.

Amanda Abella:

He's the son of immigrants. Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Um, so my father's from Norway. Um, and I have seen, I mean, I took my first transatlantic flight when I was two months old. So I've seen more of the world than a lot of people, but so I don't know if that has. Something to do with it. So I think maybe like a passion for travel, like if you can find people that are sort of like minded. Um, I have the, as terrible as this is going to sound, I, I have the very, you know, Sort of specific indicator that I have just dated Latinos ever since I graduated college. So, but I mean, the fact that, um, I ended up with one that like wanted to move back is a little bit different. Um,

Amanda Abella:

That's happening a lot more too now, depending on the country though, which is an interesting thing that, I mean, like Cubans in Venezuela, like I had this conversation with someone else we interviewed on the channel, also the son of immigrants. He grew up in Miami, but he's Cuban. And he's like, yeah, you see like. who are seeing what's going on in the United States and they're like, oh shit We've

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I was gonna say, this is a very like

Amanda Abella:

Um,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

timely conversation to be having.

Amanda Abella:

Um, from different angles too, because there's also

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

super conservative and they're not happy about what's going on either. And you and I have talked about this before. And I think all expats who've like left the country and see it from a different perspective. We're like, yeah, the system's fucked. Like we're just going to keep ending up here until the system changes. I think we're all in

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yes.

Amanda Abella:

Uh, on that here, all the expats all noticed it too. Um, but for example, you have a lot of Mexicans who are starting to move back, uh, to Mexico. Um, but then you have Cubans and Venez like, uh, children of Cubans and Venezuelans who've been in the U. S. for a long time. I'm not fucking going back to Cuba. I can't do that. Um, you know, so where are we gonna go? We're probably gonna end up in Mexico. Or, or something like that. Or now we've got our eye on Argentina, but all our Argentine friends keep saying, give it a couple of years and then Argentina is going to be the bomb. Basically. Um, but I get what you're saying about like, Oh, if you have, if you are the child of immigrants and your family literally uprooted all their shit and moved to another country, then maybe it doesn't seem like it's such of a big deal to you, but I'm just now thinking that, uh, the woman I spoke to yesterday, she's like, I'm a white, multi generation American

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah,

Amanda Abella:

know of. Um,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I wish we could have asked my mom

Amanda Abella:

yeah,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

she's like 13th generation American mutt, but she uprooted and moved to Norway.

Amanda Abella:

to Norway. I'm also thinking about the reverse. Because one of the men who mentioned to us that he had to break up with his fiancée was Dominican. And I think his fiancée was also Latina and her parents had immigrated over. And she's like, no, I'm not doing it. So I don't know, I mean, I get what you're saying.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh, interesting. Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

maybe if you come from an immigrant family, and because you come from an immigrant family, uh, you do kind of understand a bit more about what's going on in other parts of the world in a lot of ways, or you're more open to stuff like that. But I've also heard the reverse, where it's like people who are immigrants and they just fucking refuse to move out of the United States. So, like I get what you're saying, but I've also seen the reverse. Or I've

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

generational Americans who are just like, I'm down for an adventure, let's go. I'm

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yep.

Amanda Abella:

Maybe it's in their

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah. It, it, it might be, or they're astro cartography somewhere.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah. I, I, I don't know. I mean, it's cause Vic really didn't have to like, Do very much convincing, um, because I was already in the mentality that after having lived my entire adult life in Washington, DC I wa and then also sort of working through, hmm, if I'm gonna move, I wanna make it really worth my while. So I was already like in my head, leaving the continental US.

Amanda Abella:

Same.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

if it was going to be to a, to a Caribbean island, that was a U. S. territory. Um, So there, that part, I was already, I don't know, go hang out in expat Facebook groups and you'll, like, there, there's a ton of women in there that are running amok by themselves.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, it's true. It's true, there's a lot of single women expats running around too. And, uh, we joke around because, uh, And again, it's mostly from men. Like when we have this conversation with women, they're like, I'm working on my husband, but she knows eventually she's convincing him, right? Oh, she's

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Happy wife, happy life.

Amanda Abella:

right? She knows eventually she's going to get what she wants, but when it's the reverse, that's where we were getting a lot of the comments and a lot of the emails and things like that. And I thought it was so interesting and. Then I come here to Mexico and I'm at the nail salon and the woman who does my hair, she says she wants a foreigner and I joke with her and I'm like, well, we're going to find you one on this YouTube channel because they keep telling

Elizabeth Romsloe:

There you go.

Amanda Abella:

women don't want to move overseas, don't want to travel, don't want to do all this. And then the Mexican woman's like, take me all over the world, baby. I'm ready. Let's go.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, there was another, um, just sort of tangentially, uh, we met a couple here that got married here. She is local, so she's Carmera. And I live in the town of El Carmen de Bolivar. So when you're from Carmen, it's Carmero, Carmera. Um, and he's US. Um, if I recall correctly, he's ex military. I think he lives in like Georgia and they're living here. And part of his thought process was, you know, like, it's a really big adjustment moving to another country. And I didn't want to put that burden on her.

Amanda Abella:

Mm.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

what he told me was, um, he was taking on the responsibility and sort of the burden of being the foreigner.

Amanda Abella:

Mm.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

So like, there's, there is that, and obviously like when you have like two, Two people of the same nationality uprooting together. You're both kind of, you're, you're both navigating that what it is to be a foreigner. There's like the, the language, the, the, the culture and the customs,

Amanda Abella:

Banking

Elizabeth Romsloe:

all of that new things to, to navigate. Yeah. But like, I think women in particular, like without getting too like feminist on here, um, women do bear a lot of the sort of invisible labor in a relationship, just as you said, like the banking system and like the paperwork and making sure that all of that stuff gets done. And so when two people are not speaking the language, who's like, my husband's doing all, if not, like most, if not all of the sort of, uh, like the paperwork, the official stuff, so on and so forth, which removes a lot of the burden for me. But if it's two people who are, Let's assume English speaking, moving to a different country and they have to navigate the red tape and everything to like make that happen. I mean, it's different for you and Justin because

Amanda Abella:

We both

Elizabeth Romsloe:

hola, como estas? Right. But, you know, for someone, for someone else that, that's like a huge, it's not just like, oh, let's go on an adventure. There's like a whole bunch of like, as I said, invisible labor that. May or may not, depending upon the dynamics of the relationship, end up falling on the woman.

Amanda Abella:

That's a fair point. That's an interesting, interesting way of seeing it because usually, you know, women are the ones, you know, if we're talking, now we're getting boo, but if we're talking like masculine feminine dynamics, like usually it's the feminine who's more flexible and adaptable, and the men who are a little bit more fixed. Uh, and what we're seeing in the stuff that's coming up is it's almost like the reverse. So that's a very interesting, uh, Uh, concept, because now, knowing what I know about those dynamics and those energetics and we, we have other YouTube channels to go down rabbit holes like this, y'all. Um, now I think it's making a little bit more sense.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, but, I mean, I, if, for the guys out there, if you're willing to, like, really, like, do the homework. About all of the, all of the logistics. If you want your lady to come with you, figure it out and don't make her figure it out for you.

Amanda Abella:

Mmm. Yeah. That's a

Elizabeth Romsloe:

come at it with like a, and I'm not saying that anyone's actually like doing this, but I could imagine like, you know, your average dude being like, yeah, it'd be really cool to live in another country and like do this, this, that, and the other. And I know like the woman's just hearing.

Amanda Abella:

Work.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

That's a lot of work.

Amanda Abella:

That's a lot of work. Yeah. Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

And then you also should address the, there's, there's, there's also the issue of rearing child, rearing children. What, what are you going to do for education?

Amanda Abella:

Well, that's actually interesting because we didn't even mention this part. You just had a baby, right?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I did.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, so congratulations number one.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Thank you.

Amanda Abella:

You just had a baby and that's an interesting Conversation as well, because you uprooted your life. You decided you were going to another country. You decided you're, you're raising a kid, uh, in Columbia. That's an interesting conversation. Cause you know, Justin, I didn't have that, but like, we don't have kids. We probably not going to have kids. Um, and, but a lot of people, right. Do you know, end up having to have that conversation about like, what are we going to do with the kids? How are they going to adjust? How are we going to educate them? Everything's figureoutable. Of

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Citizenship

Amanda Abella:

So,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

is a question.

Amanda Abella:

yeah, citizenship is a massive question, um, you know, or how do you even go about the process of citizenship if, for example, you know, you're both U. S. citizens, you just had a kid in another country, which people are doing that in Mexico because Mexico is a birthright citizenship, and then I think Mexico gives permanent residency to the parents of the child, and I think even the grandparents, if you have a

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Even the grandparents. Wow.

Amanda Abella:

so. I've heard even the grandparents, uh, in some instances, but mostly, mostly the parents, I think. Um, you know, so that's, that's a question, or you know, or I remember having a friend that her husband was French and his job, she followed her husband to France because his job took him back to France, and she had her kids in France, and then it was like a whole thing to get them U. S. citizenship, or I had a conversation with a Canadian woman once who was married to an American man, And she thought her kids had U. S. citizenship, but it turns out the paperwork doesn't, wasn't done properly when they were

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh,

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, so they had to do a whole fucking thing, right, in order to get Canadian and U. S. passports. And it was a lot of lawyers and a lot of money and a huge pain in the ass. Um, so yeah, these are, these are real, these are real things. These are real questions. These are the nuances of X, Y, and Z. Transpat life and international living, um, that to your point, right, um, cause I didn't have that issue. Justin handled shit, you know, because. A, that's what he does, uh, and B, uh, he'd already done expat life. I hadn't fucking done expat life. I would have had no idea what to do, uh, without him. And that was what was kind of stopping me from doing it on my own, but because he'd already been through it and he could guide me through it, uh, you know, like for example, he just found my health insurance, for example, and I'm like, I don't have any fucking idea how to do that. You know, I could do it in the U. S. I don't know how to do it in a whole other country. Um, so I think that's actually a really valid point that, you know, if you're, if you're with a woman and she, she doesn't want more work. So if you're a man and you're listening to this and you can take that, if you want to move to another country, I think that's actually a really good idea, uh, to take that mental and physical load of trying to figure out all of these things off her plate and then she's going to be more willing to do it.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Be,

Amanda Abella:

point.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

be the structure. Cause that's, that's, that's the healthy masculine feminine dynamic. Right? Is that the masculine creates the structure so that the, the watery, flowy, feminine doesn't, pfft.

Amanda Abella:

All over the place. Yeah, Justin and I have a joke. I'm the water, he's the cup. So, I'm like the chaos and he's the

Elizabeth Romsloe:

that's, that's, that's not, that's, that's not a, that's exactly how it should be. That shouldn't be a joke.

Amanda Abella:

I mean, it's not a joke, but it's like a saying, like, I'm the water, he's the cup. Otherwise, I'd be like, all over the place.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

and then he'd be too rigid, so.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, so I think that excellent point I hadn't even thought about that before that is an excellent point Okay, let's get into farm life a little bit. Um Because you are living out what a lot of people on this channel would consider to be a dream The dream being i'm moving to another country. I'm getting land and i'm farming. I know you've had to learn Um, you're not on the farm right now because you guys are actually in construction Uh, with a lot of the stuff going on in the farm and really developing it. So you're just in the beginning stages of this. So let people know about the reality of farm life and what they need to

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh,

Amanda Abella:

if, yeah. Because I think it's one of those things like, Unless you grew up farming. Uh, my grandfather was in farming and agriculture. So I just know from what he would say. But, uh, A, it's a lot of work that people don't realize. Uh, and B, it's kind of like, like, know, like, I interviewed, sometimes you, you see these alternative lifestyle things, not that farming's really that alternative, but I guess now it's considered alternative. Um, but for

Elizabeth Romsloe:

homesteading is like a whole thing. Mm hmm. I was

Amanda Abella:

have been doing this forever. It's not new. Um, but for example, right, like sailing, sailing full time and they'll be like, oh yeah, this is going to be easy because we have like a pontoon on a lake and it just sounds like RVing on water. I feel like sometimes and then you realize it's definitely not RVing on water. It's like a whole thing to sail full time. I feel like farming is one of those where it's like very idyllic and it's shown certain ways on social media or YouTube. Like I watch, I love watching homesteading videos. In Mexico or in Latin America. I actually enjoy them more than watching the American ones. Cause the American one seemed like too polished and too easy. And then the ones in Latin

Elizabeth Romsloe:

gonna say, they're too easy.

Amanda Abella:

right. Do you know what I mean? And then the Latin American ones are like more chaotic about like, here's, you know, the, the, you know, cow did some shit today. Like, you know what I mean? Like, there's just more

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yep,

Amanda Abella:

in the homesteading ones in Latin America. And I feel like, uh, we were recently visiting a ranch about an hour out of here, and it is very chaotic But like the American homesteading videos are like way more edited and more idyllic Kind of a thing like more of a fantasy. So

Elizabeth Romsloe:

lifestyle.

Amanda Abella:

lifestyle like so what is this

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

Reality and then people can decide whether or not that makes sense for them

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I'm like, I don't know if they're going to be ready to hear this. Um,

Amanda Abella:

Well, we're honest here. So

Elizabeth Romsloe:

to be so, okay, just to be like completely honest, like Vic and I don't do any of the farming ourselves. We have, uh, a husband and wife who live on the property and do the labor. Um, there are also I think maybe two or three other People that, um, that work during the week on, on that particular property, uh, to give you an idea. I'm just thinking of like the difference between like farmland in the U S and farmland here. Um, it's like an hour out of the city. And most of that hour is spent on, like, 45 degree incline up and down, completely unpaved. I mean, you need the proper, like, land cruiser, like, off roading vehicle in order to get there. Or you're better off just riding a horse. Literally, like, I feel safer on a horse than I do in a car getting there, um, because the horse knows what it's doing. And, um, another thing, you need to wear snake boots when you're walking around the property because there's these giant, I think they're called mapanas, um, poisonous. And I mean, as I explained what it's like to get into the property, you're not getting out in time to, to, to get out. Get the anti venom. Um, yeah, so there's that. Um, I'm trying to think of like, what, what else? So yeah, it's our, our farm land is more jungle than it is like any, any idea you have of like, a farm with like, Golden, golden acres for as far as the eye can see. That's not, that's not it. That's, that's not what these Colombian jungles are bringing to, um, the land that's available. Um, that being said, we get a fair amount of food. Uh, we have yam, we have yuca, aguacate, um, There's, there's mango. Uh, my husband is going, is starting a woodworking business and over the last few years, he has, because he's been working on this project for much longer than, um, than we've been here, uh, he's been planting teak trees. And, uh, coffee, we've, we've harvested coffee and actually like roasted it down and ground it and drank it like that's like a super cool feeling to like own the process from, from start to finish, as well as cacao, which I'm really interested to see what the sort of the, the world supply of cocoa is like. There's a giant question mark over that industry, if you're not aware, so that there's, oh, yeah, um,

Amanda Abella:

in Mexico. So,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

America is gonna be a new, um,

Amanda Abella:

was

Elizabeth Romsloe:

off the charts prediction, um, a new supplier for cacao because the, the, the, the cacao in Africa is like being over farmed and there's just a lot of drama. Regarding, regarding Hershey. So yeah, if that's a rabbit hole, you want to go down, you can Google, Google will know much more than I do, but I just know enough to know that I'm kind of interested in pursuing like more seriously, the, the cacao supply. Um, I'm trying to think of what else we've got a lot of animals. That's my favorite part. Um, of course we've got chickens, we've got a few cows. Um, we had a mule, uh, his name was Gregorio. He was bitten by a snake and died. So that's like, you know, I I'm, I'm going for the, for the realities of this. Um, we have two like pygmy deer. It's like, these animals are like deer, except for their size of dogs. Um, I think we've got like four, four or five peacocks, two macaws at the farm. A few geese, a few ducks. It's, it's awesome. It's, it's a zoo over there. Um, as far as, and this is the thing that I, I'm like, should I tell them? Should I not? People should be aware that this country is not Completely 100 percent free of its demons, so to speak. So the, uh, the history of anyone, like, if this was 20 years ago, I wouldn't even consider moving to this country. Cause it was not safe

Amanda Abella:

not. Yeah. I mean, I, I remember being a kid and in Miami and I was in these special programs where I took classes in Spanish. Is it still going?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

no, I was just making sure.

Amanda Abella:

I know, it happens here too, right? Where we're like,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

ads out of bullhorns in cars. I get it.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yes.

Amanda Abella:

yeah, that whole thing. Um, it was interesting because in like middle school, uh, we had these humanities classes, so I'm talking like 2000, 2001, 2, around there. And, uh, we had to do current events from the Spanish newspapers, and Colombia was a mess. I always remember Colombia being, uh, Uh, in the news, even in the early 2000s, and even before then, I mean, I have friends who grew up in Colombia, uh, when, you know, Pablo Escobar was alive, and they're like, this was crazy, this was like, total war zone. We actually saw one of his Cessna planes underwater kayaking in the Bahamas last week. Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

That's crazy.

Amanda Abella:

They're like the, we were kayaking and the tour guide's like, Oh yeah, that was Pablo, one of Pablo Escobar's planes. And I'm like, wait a minute, was he, he's like, he said, you know, he was just delivering his Amazon packages to the Bahamas.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

So, so yeah, we actually saw one of his planes submerged, uh, underwater in the Bahamas while we were kayaking last week.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

that was interesting. But anyway, I have friends who grew up in Colombia, uh, during those times. And then I also remember, like, in the 2000s when, uh, after that initial, uh, I remember the current event articles when I was a kid. And then it started shifting and changing. After that, and Colombia got very far from where it used to be. I mean, my parents remember flying to Spain in the 80s and the whole plane needing to be stopped because there were two Colombians on board. Because it was that bad, like the situation

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Wow.

Amanda Abella:

stopped in Madrid.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh, wow.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah,

Amanda Abella:

I mean, it was wild. It was some wild, wild times. And then, and then they came really, really far. I mean, they have come really, really far, um, from

Elizabeth Romsloe:

yes, they have

Amanda Abella:

I know that there's, you know, Concern, um, over what is going on there. Just like there's concern over all of Latin America because we have no chill. That's our problem. Um, is not our strong suit in Latin America. Um, so I know there's concerns, but when you think about where Columbia was

Elizabeth Romsloe:

was,

Amanda Abella:

long ago, I mean, they've come a really, really long way.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

yeah, I, I mean, I think, I think they just received some kind of award or recognition from the Biden administration for how they have handled their guerrilla activity, which to me was just kind of laughable because you don't have military, random stops, random traffic stops by the military. When things are under control,

Amanda Abella:

Right.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

if there was no issue, there would be no need for traffic stops between, I mean, to give people an idea, it would be like having a traffic stop between like Baltimore and Philadelphia or Baltimore and like Wilmington, Delaware, I'm just trying to think of like the closest sort of like drive between El Carmen de Bolivar to Cartagena or to Barranquilla. Um, they're both about two to two and a half hours away from, from where I live. Uh, but the, the, it's not as high speed. So I think in terms, I think of distance in terms of time. And so for me, like two hours is like, Oh, that's, that's like Baltimore to Philadelphia, right? Like

Amanda Abella:

Mm hmm.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

driving. Um, Maybe not so much for you if you're in Miami, you're not used to like, leaving the state

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

by car, but yeah, where I, where I grew up, I mean, you can like, drive through several states, like, in a matter of hours, but, um, yeah, like, if you, if you have, not just like a police stop, we're not talking about, like, whew, whew, like, do you know why I stopped you? It's not, it's not that, it's like,

Amanda Abella:

I went through a military stop in Jamaica, so I know what you're

Elizabeth Romsloe:

It is

Amanda Abella:

like,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

the military, it's the army, with a tent on the side of the road flagging you down to check your, your papers. They will open up your trunk. There's nothing to do but comply.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, I mean, Biden also did something recently having to do with Cuba. I can't remember exactly what it was. My mom was telling me when I was in Miami, which was also pretty fucking laughable. Um, but I don't know, maybe there was a bargain with Venezuela or something. I don't know. We don't know.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh.

Amanda Abella:

you, uh, yeah, US foreign policy is for lack of a better term when it comes to Latin America, US foreign policy is very confusing for lack of a better term. very chaotic when it comes

Elizabeth Romsloe:

They fund both sides of the drug war is the best part of, is the like best summary I think is.

Amanda Abella:

they also pick and choose which dictators they want to prop up all over Latin

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh.

Amanda Abella:

that for decades. So, it's kind of like, wait, you took this one out, but then this one you haven't taken out in 66 years. Like, make this shit make sense. Um, so, I don't know. It's just It's weird and confusing. We're just going to, uh, leave it at that in terms of U. S.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

when it comes to Latin America, because, uh, it makes no sense. And, uh, people from Latin American countries who have followed this stuff, they know it makes no sense. And we've all given up on trying to figure it out what the deal is. The only thing we all seem to be in agreement on, you know, is if Latin America didn't have. The bullshit that it's known to have, which a lot of countries are starting to surpass the bullshit in

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Mm hmm.

Amanda Abella:

Uh, they would be a hell of a competitor in

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh, for sure. I

Amanda Abella:

and things like that. So the conspiracy theorists, which is probably not that much of a conspiracy is that the neighbors to the North ensure that, uh, Latin America cannot We'll just leave it at that.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

mean, I don't think. I saw somewhere earlier today the only difference between truth and conspiracy is time.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, that's, that's a fair point, because a lot of things that were conspiracy theories have turned out to be true with time. So, I don't know, we'll, we'll see what, what ends up happening. I think Latin America's got some really interesting things going on. Um, it's not perfect by any means, but we also say there is no such thing as a perfect country. It doesn't exist. It's not a thing. all. A lot of people will say, Oh, Latin America is so corrupt. I'm like, yeah, do you know how corrupt it is in the United States that you basically have to be a billionaire to be president? And that we just saw a billionaire trying to call all the shots like last week with the H1B visas. Like, that's corruption. Like, that's really corrupt. That's probably worse corruption or because it's, it's, uh, Brazilian guy tell me this once actually. In Latin America, the corruption is over money. Yeah. In the United States, and in Western Europe, and in, the corrupt, the corruptions over power, it's not about

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I was gonna say it's over influence.

Amanda Abella:

it's power. Which

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

is more dangerous? I had a Brazilian guy tell me that once, and it

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, yeah,

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, cause corruption's It just exists, and it's something you have to deal with. I think, uh, the, the interesting question is, uh, what are they trying to get? Is it money or power? So,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

that, that's, that's kind of like a bone chilling comparison. But yeah, I would have to agree with him.

Amanda Abella:

yeah,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

But that's a very smart,

Amanda Abella:

we see corruption, and actually, you know, now with the stuff going, because, you know, your father, uh, you said he, he was an engineer, we were on, uh, Royal Caribbean last week, which, by the way, we loved, they killed it with the Icon of the Seas, but we were talking to

Elizabeth Romsloe:

it's a great line.

Amanda Abella:

It's a great line. Uh, we can't be cruisers all the time. It's not the only way we can travel, but Holy shit. When you find a good one, you find a good one when it comes to cruises and it, it's just great. Um, and anyway, we were talking because Royal Caribbean attracts people from all over the world. Uh, we had a very international passengers. I mean,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

How many passengers are on that? Jesus

Amanda Abella:

000 passengers, I think

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Chri

Amanda Abella:

it was like 3000 crew or something like that.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Wow.

Amanda Abella:

Oh yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Wow.

Amanda Abella:

yeah. Try getting off at port of Miami with 10, 000 people. That shit was crazy.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I can't even, I'm not, that's insane. Wow. Anyway.

Amanda Abella:

so big, you don't really feel it. That's the craziest part about it. Anyway, we will, we'll have a video on the YouTube channel, all about that boat and the vlog and all that stuff. So everybody can see it for themselves, but

Elizabeth Romsloe:

That's

Amanda Abella:

it's the

Elizabeth Romsloe:

insane.

Amanda Abella:

in ship in the world and Royal Caribbean is known for being great. Uh, you had passengers from literally all over the world. And one of the things that kept coming up in conversation is, you know, at the time of recording this at the time of the cruise, we have the L. A. Wildfires going on and that whole insane situation with what's going on in California and the level of incompetence that was required in order for that to happen. And a lot of people from other countries were saying, you know, we expect that. In our countries like what's happening in Los Angeles right now where it's like mismanagement of money mismanagement of everything No water in the fire hydrants government doesn't give three shits about you. We expect that In our countries, we did not expect it in your country

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah. Yeah.

Amanda Abella:

So for anybody, you know, because we'll get a lot of the commenters who are like Oh, you guys are traitors and this and that and the third or like they get like and it's kind of like when you start living in other countries and seeing all the different perspectives people have I came to the conclusion that we're all just extras in a giant game of risk And we need to like Right. I mean isn't don't you get that vibe now being an expat and seeing it from all these different perspectives?

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh yeah. Yeah. I mean, I, I, that was part of my, Jenny with my son.

Amanda Abella:

It's all

Elizabeth Romsloe:

If you're wondering like what's going on in the background. Um, I, I, I think that was part of my, I was already aware of it before leaving

Amanda Abella:

Yeah,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

was part of my motivation for wanting to like GTFO. Um, So, yeah, I,

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, all extras in a giant game of risk. That's, that's what we are here. And that's why you want to diversify and move around and See other parts of the world and other things because just because it's problematic in one country doesn't mean it's problematic in another Diversify how you make money with the internet so on and so forth because we're just living in some really interesting times Which I'm sure the astrology points to but we don't have time to get into that Right now that would be a whole other conversation We would need to have you on for so let the people know where they can find you because we do have a lot of business owners who follow this channel as well that they're interested in going in other countries. They might need branding and they might want to do it based on their astrology because I know we got a lot of people on this channel and we also got closet people on this channel. So let them know where they can find you.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

yeah, well, I have, um, an archetype quiz where you can find your brand persona in the tarot, as, as, in the wisdom of the tarot. So that's going to be found at ScorpioSoul. Studio forward slash quiz. That's my, my, my rebrand. I, the, the branding designer just recently rebranded, so ScorpioSoul. Studio. forward slash quiz.

Amanda Abella:

We'll make sure to have it linked below. I might have to take that because that sounds like a lot of fun actually. And I know that when I started looking at my astrology and like implementing it into like business and branding and messaging, like it did actually like really, I just never thought about it before. I also didn't really know about it until I met you. I was like, wait, that's a, you can do that. That's a thing. And, um, entrepreneur expat happened because both Justin and I, just from different angles um, making money from foreign shores. In our astrology for the next 20 years.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh, that's wild.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

wild. Yeah,

Amanda Abella:

Mhm.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

will. I want to add this just for just for the skeptics in the room. Um, so many people say something to the effect of, Oh, well, I don't, I don't resonate with my sign. Usually the only sign that people are aware of is their son sign.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

The sun takes roughly 28 days to go through a zodiac sign, so it's actually not that specific to the individual. What gets more specific is your moon sign. The moon takes about two to three days to move through the zodiac, each zodiac sign. And then what's even more specific is your rising sign, and that is the zodiac that was on the horizon at the moment of your birth from the vantage point of your birth location. Yeah. And that, so that's, that's pretty, pretty dang specific. Um, people tend to, uh, identify with their rising sign much more closely than they identify with their sun sign. And then the other, the other, there's so many different layers to that. There's the houses, there are aspects, so the conversations that the different luminaries are having with each other influences how they're, you know, showing up in your life. Um, but just the short version of that is wherever your sun sign is in your birth chart is going to tell you the area of your life that the sun is actually like operating. So maybe you don't identify with all of the sign, Stereotypes, but if you look at that one area of your life, it's like 100 percent true for that particular area of your life.

Amanda Abella:

we're gonna have you come back and we're gonna do an entire episode on um, Uh, past lives, because sometimes we've had people in the comments say, I don't want to move because I think there's anything wrong with whatever country I'm in. I just want to move to this other specific country and it's like a spiritual reason. We've had a lot of

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Ooh.

Amanda Abella:

that. Yeah, we're gonna have you come back and talk about that, because that has come up in the comments. Or we'll have people, or I know for example, um, sometimes people just have like a fixation with this part of the world. And then, um, Our shamans here were like, oh, yeah, that could be a past life thing and you can like find it in the astrological birth chart or Astrocartography we can talk about that too. I mean I have personally found these tools to be very helpful in life So I would love to have you come back and just talk about That aspect of it because we have had comments like that Coming up on the youtube channel where it's like it's just like a spiritual pull like I feel like I need to end up in This other place

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yeah, totally. I, I would be happy. Interestingly enough, um, this, I, I, I'm still on my MC.

Amanda Abella:

Okay.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

was on my MC, and now I'm like in the, like, epicenter, like, concentration of my, of my MC, so.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, I

Elizabeth Romsloe:

bodes well for me professionally.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, I know for me. Okay, good. Alright, so we're definitely going to do a part two where we just talk about all the woo woo stuff with traveling. And also because I know we've got astral I also know I mean, we've attracted

Elizabeth Romsloe:

I will geek out.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, we'll geek out on that. And I'll learn as well. And, uh, for any other skeptics, Justin thought all this stuff was total bullshit when I met him. And then I was like, Oh, you know, it's really just following data points. And then when he started seeing the data points and the recurring patterns, he was like, Oh, yeah. Okay. Okay. There's something to this

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Oh yeah, when you see the data points, when you see the data points play out throughout the course of history, it's undeniable. The cycles.

Amanda Abella:

yeah, that's also, and again, we'll have you come back to talk about this specifically, but there are a lot of people who are saying, Oh, the United States, it's in his Pluto return, meaning Pluto is coming back around to where it was when the United States was created and throughout history, every time an empire has their Pluto return, it falls. So,

Elizabeth Romsloe:

It's not that it falls, it will either, yeah, it will either fall or have like a massive revolution.

Amanda Abella:

Yeah, so the United States is going through that now, right, which is

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Yep.

Amanda Abella:

we're, which is why we're seeing a lot of the things that we're seeing. But we'll have you come back to talk about all that stuff specifically, because like I said, these are tools that have really helped me just in different aspects of life. And then when I followed the data points, it was like, you're going to move to another country. You're going to make money from another country. You're getting married. You're, and I was like, holy shit. That's wild so I'm converted so we're gonna have you come back to talk about it specifically in terms of what's going on In the world we can talk about you know how people can figure out You know if they for example feel a pull to a certain part of the world Can you find it there all that kind of we're gonna talk about astro cartography. It's gonna be really juicy and really fun So everybody make sure to

Elizabeth Romsloe:

be fun.

Amanda Abella:

It would be super fun, right? Like, we're gonna book it now, so we do a part two.

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Okay.

Amanda Abella:

um, Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Heck yeah. I will geek out.

Amanda Abella:

All right So everybody make sure to subscribe hit the notification bell leave us a comment below If you're listening to this on itunes or spotify or any of those things Make sure to leave us a review if you're interested in figuring out your brand archetype sure to Sign up for that quiz below and we'll catch you guys on the next episode with l where we're going to get really geeky with Astrology and all the shit going on in the world and how you can figure out where you're supposed to be in the world the Based on your astrological birth chart. Thank you so much for being here. I cannot wait for part two It's gonna be even better than part one

Elizabeth Romsloe:

Thanks for having me. This was fun.

Amanda Abella:

All right guys. See you on the next one