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Hello everyone and welcome to another Expat Stories series. I'm Justin Keltner on Entrepreneur Expat, and I'm here with my friend Jason Antonino. So great to have you here in Guadalajara with us, Jason. Thank you Justin. It's wonderful to be here. I love it. Yeah. Uh, so you just got to Guadalajara just a, a few short days ago. Yeah. Uh, today is the 26th, so literally yesterday I arrived here by bus from Puerto Vallarta where I was vacationing for 11 nights before that. Yeah. Amazing. Um, and on this series we, we talk a lot, uh, to entrepreneurs and, uh, entrepreneur expats specifically about their journey, uh, in moving to another country. And Jason actually has taken several of our programs, including Persuade to Profit and our YouTube workshop. And for those of you that are new here on Entrepreneur Expat, we talk about everything to do with moving abroad, making money. From overseas, remotely, from anywhere in the world and really living in the country. That gives you the life of your dreams instead of having to stay. Where you currently are or where you've been born or anything like that, and just feeling stuck there, so we help people relocate to other countries. If you're looking to find out more about that specifically, you can actually go to entrepreneur expat.com/consult, and we'll leave that link on the screen and in the description below because we help people with the entire white glove service so that people like Jason can easily. Migrate down here and not have to deal with like all of the minutia and residency and so many other things. But let's, uh, let's jump right into it. So Jason specifically helps single parents in the US live a better life abroad. We'll talk a little bit more about his channel at the end of the video. Um, but let's kind of get into some more of the, how you found us and like how all this came to be and. How you ended up on this journey in the first place? Like how'd you find out about Entrepreneur, expat and Amanda and myself. Okay. Yeah. Obviously on YouTube. I don't remember the exact moment I found your channel. It might have been through Jose tga. I'm a huge fan of his, I know you interviewed him. Mm-hmm. Recently. And, um, entrepreneur Expat, obviously that's me. That's the kind of person I am. And I just took a liking to your channel because you guys seem really down to earth. Um, cute couple. Uh, you guys are, you know what you're talking about. You've been entrepreneurs for many years. I thought, okay, subscribe. I could learn a lot from these folks. Great. And what was kind of going on in your life at, at the time? Like at the time that you found us? What was, what was that part of your internal journey like and what was sort of happening around the time where you, where you noticed our, okay. Uh, I believe that was sometime in 2024 where I first found your channel sometime that year. That was the year where I realized, okay, I'm looking to leave the United States. Uh, I need a way in a foot in the door, so around before I. At the time, I found your channel a few months after I decided to go to school in Guadalajara to go and get an English teaching certificate. So I was in Guadalajara for eight weeks, June through August. And I had already been a subscriber of yours at that time. And I remember watching your videos from my hostel room in Guadalajara that the school arranged for. Mm-hmm. And just, you know, uh, uh, ingesting your content, binging, I guess they call it. Just, you know, drinking in all that content of yours and learning quite a bit. Amazing. And, and what was it that made you wanna leave the us? Why were you like on that path, you know, studying in Guadalajara? I know at that time you were also like, Hey, can I actually, can I actually move here? And I know we shared a few tips and things in the video, right. Uh, and videos that, that helped develop that for you. But why was it that you wanted to get out of the US so bad in the first place? Uh, two main reasons. One is economic. I, uh, my career has come to a stop. Uh, I was a patent examiner for 14 years. And for economic reasons, you know, there's talk of a recession and maybe even a depression. So for that reason, companies aren't filing nearly as many patent applications as they were in the past. So that impacted me directly, so I've left that work. Um, there's also the political reasons I won't get into detail, but it's not a good scene in the United States. I'm very concerned about it. Also, as a veteran, I'm an ex, uh, ex-military. I'm a navy veteran, and I just don't like our current government's attitude towards veterans at all. It's appalling. So economic and p political reasons have made me come south of the border. And why Mexico specifically? Did you check out other countries? Were you thinking like, oh, you know, maybe I'll go to this place, or, or that other place? What? What made you decide on Mexico Place? I've been speaking Spanish since 1986 at the age of 12. Mm-hmm. So I have a 38 year headstart on Spanish. I'm 50 years old now. In fact, local people compliment me on my Spanish, so that's obviously a good sign. I love the fact how close Mexico is. I flew from Tucson, Arizona to Porto Vallarta, well through Phoenix. Phoenix to Porto Vallarta is a two hour flight, so that's not bad. Very close to home. Uh, it's a, Mexico is a whole world away, but close to home, same time zones. The food here is spectacular. I could afford to eat here. Uh, eat out and eat well too. Yeah, eat out. Yeah. Three meals a day at restaurants. Isn't that expensive? You can't, how much of, of that same thing cost where, where you're from in Tucson? I would say two to three times as much. Pv I'm spending about half as much on food compared to, and it's really expensive there. I mean, Puerto Vallarta's got pretty expensive food, relatively. For Mexico's, I heard that Porto Vallarta is the most expensive city to live in, in Latin America. All of Latin America. It might be, it might be now. It's very touristy. Uh, but now here, now that I'm in Guadalajara, it's a bit cheaper compared to pv. Um, and Mexico shares the same exact time zones as the us So calling home is not, you know, a big inconvenience. I could, uh, talk to my clients over Zoom in the US without there being many issues. Yeah. And the internet's good, the infrastructure too, for all that. Yeah. Internet here has been satisfactory and it's been getting a lot better now. If you're, if you're at a, at a little cafe somewhere in town, maybe the WiFi's good. Maybe it's not, but that's, that's less an infrastructure problem and more the owner of the coffee shop is not Right. Buying a good router. I'm staying at a, I'm staying, there's stuff together, but Right. I'm staying at a co-living, co-working hostel, and their wifi is very reliable. Yeah. Yeah, I mean where, where we have, um, where we're renting now, like super fast, you get sometimes multi gig, even depending on the, the plan, you can get up to like a couple gigs. Oh, there you go. Which is like what you have in the us, but better than in a lot of cities. I think a hundred megabit per second is fast. That just blows that out of the water. Yeah. Good. Exactly. So happy to hear. So infrastructure, cost of living. Yeah. Any other reasons where you're like, Hey, I think I wanna. Wanna make Mexico my home. Um, just, uh, I fell in love with the city of Guadalajara. I was here, like I said, eight weeks last year as a student and, and a tourist. And that was kind of like a trial run for me. I had to prove to myself, can I function even here? Mm-hmm. Being a non-native Spanish speaker, I assimilated faster than I thought, especially I. After being a week in Guadalajara, I had to go to the hospital. I had a, an infection in my toe that was spreading. Ah. And so I literally, in the middle of the night, I go, I show up to the public hospital not knowing what to do, but I knew enough Spanish to get by and there were a few English speakers there too, so we were able to meet each other halfway, so to speak. Yeah. And, um, I mean, the public health system sold itself to me. I had two public health, I had two health episodes that required medical help and I, it blew my mind. How one inexpensive the healthcare, uh, the public healthcare is in Mexico. It's very little out of pocket, and they're very transparent about their pricing. This is what we pay. What you pay for, what you get, take it or leave it. Yep. In the US the whole health insurance industry is a racket. How much did you pay for like your healthcare that you received? Um, let's see. For the tow infection, that was a fungal infection. The, the, I went to the Red Cross. It was like$35 at the Red Cross in pesos. Plus maybe another$10 for medication at the local pharmacy and that's it. And in Tucson at the ER or urgent care, um, what would've that, what would that have been? More than I could afford. I would not have gone to the ER in Tucson. I would've been like, okay, I guess healthcare is a DIY in the United States. Yeah. It's unfortunate that a lot of people, I mean. No matter how much money you have, it's like you're, you're, a lot of people are like even pushed to bankruptcy just from medical debt. Um, yeah. Most bankruptcies are filed because of medical debt in Mexico. That's not even a thing here. And I didn't have to use my travel. I had travel insurance. Didn't have to use it. Not once, no. You don't even come close to your deductible. No, no. Um, some people are really, I, I think people are like really surprised about two things with the healthcare here. One, how cheap it actually is. Yeah. Um, if you buy like foreign traveler's insurance, they're actually typically making a lot of money on that Traveler's insurance. And it doesn't cost anywhere near, like, like most people will never even end up using the traveler's insurance. And if you're staying long term and you can get residency, you're better off. Uh, buying a health plan locally in almost all cases because it'll cost you, like Amanda and I were looking into this, it was about 20% of the cost of what we would pay, let's say for a GeoBlue plan. We're paying with GNP, um, which is like a national carrier, and the deductible is about also like a fifth of what the. The deductible would be with the US based travel insurance plan. Yeah. And the, the, the, all the numbers are just significantly better. And not only that, but we get up to, I think, a hundred thousand dollars of coverage even in the US or in any other country outside of Mexico too. Oh, wow. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. You need residency typically for that, like most of the time. Um, but yeah, I mean like the, the insurance is actually very affordable. And then the healthcare is super affordable. People are really surprised. They're like, yeah. And it's, they don't, they don't understand this, the extent of how much cheaper it actually is. It does not seem to occur to a US citizen that Mexico wants to help you get better from whatever your in injury, your disease is and not bankrupt you. That's what a foreign concept better, and the qualities are better, no pun, pun intended. Yeah. The qualities way better. Right. I find me, I found the call to be comparable to what I would get in the States. I wouldn't say Mexico is healthcare is better. But you also went the public hospital. Yeah, I went to the public hospital in Guadalajara and then I went to the Red Cross for another problem. Yeah. Because they, they have, I mean, there's different levels of care for sure. Yeah. Um, if you have, especially like if you have insurance like we do, you can go to a much like higher tier your hospitals where Yeah. They've got, you know, you get like a whole private room and you, they'll pay for your. Yeah. Traveling companion to go there with you and it's just like, it's like next level. Oh yeah. I hear, I hear private. What you pay for crappy insurance in the us. Yeah. I hear private healthcare. Here is next level. It's the bomb. I mean it's, they see you immediately as you gotta pay up front, but once you've taken care of that, they take good care of you. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No bs. So healthcare is way, but people do not understand. It's no balance billing, no surprises in the mail. And they, they take time with you. Like the doctors will actually. Take time with you. It's not just like 10 minutes brushing you in and out. No, not, not that at all. And I hear they can give, they give doctors, give out their WhatsApp phone number, I heard. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. All the time. Like specialists, we could see specialists here for$50,$60 and they'll give you their number if you have any, to text'em. If you have any questions on WhatsApp or pharmacy, uh, pharmacy familiarities, or you know, the local pharmacies, you can get a medical consult for 60 pesos. That's$3. Yeah. If you've got like an infection in your foot or. Rash or whatever the problem is, you go to a pharmacy that's went the other day, like I, I thought I was, I was having a sinus infection, but it was actually just really, really severe allergies. And so they gave me a bunch of stuff for that to like calm it down'cause of all the pollen in the air now with everything. But I think we paid, including the medicine, like including the, the consult, the medicine, everything. Like maybe it was 50 or 60 bucks. Yeah. Um, yeah, that's about it. Yeah. And the consult was a few dollars, so it's, it's pretty cool. Yeah. Mexico's amazing. I mean, it's, I think it's still very underrated. Um, I think so, and yes, it helps certainly if you speak Spanish, but Jason speaks like decent Spanish, but you're not. Yeah. B one level, inter lower level, intermediate. Um, I could start conversations. Um, although I run outta guess after a while, you know, my goal, my goal is to get to B two by the end of this year, and I think I can pull that off. Yeah. Being immersed in here. No problem at all. Cloud OKC s cloud, okc, that means, of course, yes. Yeah. So let's, um, let's fast forward a little bit. So you followed our channel. Um, you kinda liked what you saw. I think we had, we had spoken on the phone and then we mentioned that we had a YouTube workshop. Yeah. And you're like, yeah, I actually have a YouTube channel.'cause you, you had just started your YouTube channel right? Over the last summer when I was in Guadalajara, I, I launched my YouTube channel and then realized, yeah, I don't know what I'm doing. And I discovered you guys sometime after that. I thought, okay, I, these guys know what they're doing and I advertised that workshop. I said, okay, for that price. You know, three hours. That's pretty good. And I get access to all the material, the recordings if I ever need to go back. Yeah. What was, what was, what changed, I guess, with your channel after?'cause you weren't really getting too many results at all. You were posting sort of like vlog style videos. Yeah. What I did. What changed? What did you learn? So, I, it, so first some context for your viewers. Uh, my, I launched that channel in August of last year. Mm-hmm. And as content, I have, uh, Facebook stories, you know, when you record a one minute story. In portrait mode of what you're doing. I uploaded those to YouTube, my channel, because I needed some content somewhere. So I thought, well at least get my foot in the door. I've got content. But it wasn't getting hardly any traffic at all. It's like I wasn't even a blip on anybody's radar. Mm-hmm. Not until your course, I took your course and I realized, okay, yeah, I don't know Jack about YouTube or how to grow a channel, and then you guys helped me change that. I, uh, it was in the, uh, I guess three months since I did your February workshop. I reached 500 views, uh, that milestone in a couple of months. A lot more traffic. I got comments on my videos I never had before. Um, that's just, that's just the, you know, that's just the iceberg. I, thanks to the tools that they introduced me to a couple software tools. The process of making a video is a lot more streamlined and easy. I found I, if it wasn't for you guys, I would've gave up on this thing a long ago. Mm-hmm. So I can't thank you enough. Yeah. Appreciate that. And now it's, it's actually turning into a, a business as well. Yep. Um, because you're starting to get traffic on YouTube, we're helping you a little bit along, uh. In terms of how to, how to monetize that. Mm-hmm. Um, and, and what's, what's your plan now, now that you're in Mexico, like in terms of monetizing that and turning it into like, your coaching business? Uh, basically I want to just, you know, find, you know, the people I would, uh, would prefer to work with and that's single parents in the United States who don't have a clue about moving to a foreign country. They don't even have a passport. What I wanna do is. Take them from Clueless and Passport list to having a chosen destination like Guadalajara have their passport in their hand, a scouting trip booked, and just like a plan for them to learn about their new country. Great. I, I think that's, that's really solid and yeah. Uh, I mean, from what you've told us in the next couple months as they're, as you're down here and. You already have people coming in from the channel with comments and everything else, you're just gonna get more of those people signed up for your coaching. And I think that's, that's a really needed service because some people don't, aren't necessarily in a position where they want to do the entire, you know, done for you plan, like what we're doing. Right. Um, or maybe they're not in a financial plan, uh, position to qualify for residency yet, but they wanna just get the ball rolling. And maybe in a year or two be able to, to move to another country. Yeah. I mean, I can't do all those things that, that you do, but I can certainly help people get out of where they're at and get to a new location so that way they could see it for themselves. Mm-hmm. Live in Guadalajara for two weeks. I recommend two weeks as a minimum. Yep. Although a lot of people in the United States who are W2 employees, they don't even get that vacation time. I know. It's crazy. It's sad, but you gotta, I do not recommend going to a foreign country site unseen. No, you don't wanna do that. You gotta live there. Well visit there first. You have to know like, we know what kind of neighborhood vibes with you too. Right? Right. And language concerns. You gotta be able to a Espanola key. Exactly. Yeah. So tell us a little bit more about, uh, about like, the process specifically in the last few weeks of preparing to actually come to Mexico and, and getting your boots on the ground. Like a lot of our, our viewers are having this, I guess, mental hurdle more than anything, where they're like, I really wanna move to another country. Uh, I'm ready to like take the next step, but they've never done anything like this before. So first of all, what would you tell those people? And, and can you also kind of guide them through just step by step, like what actually physically, day to day you did in the 30 days or so leading up to coming down here? Alright, so my best advice is if you don't have a passport, get yours. It's good for 10 years. Get the passport book and card. Trust me. Get both. I renewed my passport early in 2024 before I went to school in Guadalajara. So now I've got eight and a half years left on that passport. That's not even a problem now. Mm-hmm. Next step is you're going to save some money. Can you save$3,000? You don't have to do it from a job. Just raise$3,000. Anyhow, you can. You probably have a lot of clutter laying around in your house. I did. I had a lot of stuff in storage. So when I came back from Mexico from my summer trip, I went from a 10 by five storage down to a five by five and raised$250. Just selling stuff. That was more than enough to buy the plane ticket to come out here. My, my plane ticket from Tucson, the Puerto of Arthur, was$235, so you probably have a plane ticket in the form of stuff in your house. So that's a consideration. Raise the money. I don't care how you do it, as long as it's legal. Um, yeah, some people need to know this. Yeah. So passport. S uh, uh, have a savings fund.$3,000 should be good for a month in any other foreign country. Oh, yeah. I mean Mexico. Oh, yeah. Social in Mexico as a tourist, sure. It's a little bit more expensive, but Right. If, if you, if you're just like a single person, you're visiting and you're, you're okay. Um, you know, just, just with the basics for now. You can, you can easily make it two months on, on that. Maybe even three, depending on, on, yeah. If you're, if you're thrifty, if you're crafty. Depending on the city too. Obviously Guadalajara is one of the more expensive cities, correct? Yeah. There's cheaper places to live in Mexico for certain. Uh, but if you're thrifty and you're crafty, you could stretch$3,000 out to a couple of months, which is more than enough time. You'll need to decide whether or not a certain city in a certain country is for you at all. So passport raised the money. Um, then you need to obviously logistics, get, you know, plane ticket round trip plane ticket or with Mexico. I came out here with a one-way ticket last year. They didn't have a problem with that. And I came here on a one-way plane ticket without any problem, and I got 180 days. Um. Uh, in my passport. That depends a lot on the city. Yes. Like a lot of the time, if you'll fly into Cabo, if you'll fly into Cancun, right. Even Mexico City, because it's also very touristy. They'll ask you like, Hey, do you have hotel reservations? How many days are you staying? And you need to actually confirm the number of days that you're asking for. Um, Guadalajara sometimes is a little bit more lenient. Same thing if you come in, like through the land border. If you drive in or if you walk in Yeah. Into like, uh, uh, Novo Laredo or, or Tijuana or one of those, those border towns. Um, you'll typically be able to just buy the tourist card and then get the full six months, but it's, it's not guaranteed. Right. Yeah. I'm glad you said that. The 180 days is no longer guaranteed. It's not written in stone. Me, when I was on the plane, I filled out that customs and declarations form. They asked, how many days do you want in Mexico? 1, 8, 0. I want the max. Yeah. So passports, save money and then figure out where you're gonna stay. I recommend staying in a hostel. It's a lot less expensive than a hotel room. It's not, you've gotta have roommates. Yeah. It's a shared space. But the nice thing is that you're gonna, you can make friends that way. You can get private rooms too. And like when I, I stayed in a hostel when I came, um, but I'm very, very picky on like people and sounds and light and so I couldn't do the, like, the shared thing, but I stayed in a hostel as well. But I got to meet a lot of people. Yeah. And networked. You know, with the owners of the hostel and like everything was covered and they were even okay with, with Daisy or Oh, our golden retriever being there. Oh wow. That's great. That's good. Um, that was, that was before Amanda and I met, that was like on my first, you know, one of my first trips to Guadalajara. Hmm. I think I stayed there'cause I had a, an apartment that was sort of pending. They had to do a whole, like the credit check and the paperwork and whatever. And so while all that was happening for almost a month, I was in the hostel and then I moved to the apartment and furnished it and all that. Very good. But yeah, absolutely. It's a great way to make friends too. Yeah. Make friends, make contacts. Uh, it's, it's a lot harder to be lonely and bored in a hostel than an ordinary hotel or motel. That's for sure. That's, that's true. Yeah. And it's a little bit more of a, an authentic experience. Um, so what was, what was the process for you like, so you, you first obviously had to get rid of a lot of stuff. That was the same thing for me. Well, when I first began, um, you know, traveling and living overseas before I went to. To Meine. I, you know, same kind of thing. Got rid of a lot of stuff. Yeah. Put my car and I had in about 10 days at between when I made the decision and I landed in an Airbnb there. Um, but I put my car, I put all my stuff in storage, got rid of what I could and bam, I was on the, on the plane. Yeah. Um, so you, you kind of, uh, yeah. Last summer got your, sold it some of your stuff Right? To clarify, before I did my, uh, schooling, vacation last summer, I put my car in storage. I wasn't ready to sell it, but this time around I said I want as little. Stuff in my life is possible. My son has grown up. He'll be 23 years old next month. I sold my car, got four grand for that, which is plenty of money for a couple of months here. Mm-hmm. So that's nice to have that cash. Totally. Um, so I don't have to pay car insurance anymore. Yeah. Um, when I, before I left the country, I canceled my medical insurance, canceled the dental insurance, canceled as many subscriptions as you can. If you know, I mean, just think about, you know, living abroad. Are you gonna need the thing that you need in the United States? Probably not, so. Mm-hmm. Ask yourself, do I really need to bring this thing overseas or over land with me? Probably not. There's a lot of, you can get the same stuff here in Mexico as in the states, more or less. Yeah. People are sometimes confused about that. Like, we've gotten comments in the videos a lot, like, can you guys find everything you need there? I'm like, dude, we can walk to a Walmart. Yeah. Walmart to a butcher shop, to a. Several grocery stores, restaurants, coffee shops, like there's Starbucks here, there's am Amazon Prime delivers same day. Yes. Amazon delivers here. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you don't, you don't need to bring a bunch of shit with you. No, I mean, exactly. I mean, my life here in Mexico is not that different in the US obviously it's in a different language, but I'm surprised how many people speak English in Mexico. Pleasantly surprised by it. Don't count on it. Mm-hmm. Especially here, maybe a 15% chance. Puerto Vita is like 50 50. Puerto Vira is like a very bilingual town. I noticed. A hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah.'cause it's so touristy. Brush up on your Spanish. There's a million ways to learn upper end espanol. You could do it online. Get a, a book. So many ways to learn a foreign language. Now don't let that stop you. You can do it. If I can, why can't somebody else? Exactly. So what, what else happens? So you sold your stuff. Obviously you brushed up on your Spanish. Then what, like walk us through the, the play by play of boots on the ground. Jason's in. In Guadalajara. Okay. Well, before I came to Guadalajara, I was in Puerto Vallarta 11 nights to celebrating. Oh, before you came to, to Puerto Vallarta. Yeah, before I came there, it was just, well not working anymore. My income dropped to zero and so I let my client know, Hey, I need to return the equipment. I'm leaving the country early because of the economic situation going on. And at that point it was just like, uh, I had a list of things to do, about 20 items on that list of things to do. Everything from canceling insurance policies to, um, you know, putting stuff in storage, uh, every little detail. Dealing with while bankruptcy. I'm going through that process, so making sure I get all the bankruptcy stuff taken care of before I leave the country. And. Verifying, I can intend my 3, 4, 1 hearing remotely. He said, they said that. Yeah, you can, it'll be done over Zoom. Mm-hmm. So yeah. Even if you have a legal issue in the United States that doesn't have to bar you completely from leaving the country. Yeah. People think they have to like go and pay off all their debts before they move overseas. I mean, not necessarily. I, I think it's, it's kind of a silly idea. It's like you can pay off your debts when you're here. It's not like you're stuck. Right. Granted, if you owe the IRS tens of thousands of dollars, I do the passport. No, I think if you, luckily, luckily for you to make, not for me, no. Yeah. But, but short of, short of like a big federal debt, like you're not gonna be barred from leaving the country. So if you've got debt that you need to pay off, if you've got like business that you can, you can do all that from overseas. You can, you can sign paperwork if you have to at the embassy. Like if it's notarized or official stuff. Oh, right. Yeah. There's a US embassy or the US consulate that's here. Right, right down the street. Right. So there you go. So they don't have to. Pay off all their debt before leaving. I think that's something that keeps people stuck because Right, sure. You have this idea, oh, I'm gonna get everything, all my ducks in a row before I leave the us, but you're overlooking, it's like, you know, stepping over dollars to pick up pennies. You're overlooking the fact that your living expenses are gonna be 20% of what they were in the US when you move somewhere like Mexico. Yeah, 20, I'd say 20 to 50%. It really depends on where you go, where you live and all those little factors. For sure. Yeah. So then what. Um, well, I was just going through my to-do list and letting people know that I'm leaving, letting credit, letting my banks know I'm, I'm gonna be in Mexico and probably Belize for a period of time, so just FYI. Mm-hmm. Um, you know, letting you know, I also registered my visit with the US State Department. This way I get, uh, emails sent to me if there's a trouble, if there's a problem here and. While Ohio, Mexico City, I get an email. I wouldn't, I wouldn't count on the US government to help you out too much if we're being honest. No. Yeah, I guess not. But probably if my family and friends want to know my condition, they can contact the US State Department. Yeah. Happens. That's a good, that's a good benefit of that. Yeah, that's fair. I know I'm on my own out here. I don't really need the United States government for anything. Just, um, be patient with me as I try to pay off my tax debt. Yeah. Well. That'll happen over time. Yeah. So you you, you sell everything. You sell this, go through your checklist, go have a, have a checklist. Yeah, definitely. You gotta have a checklist. Absolutely. So those, you'll go insane and you will, you'll drop the ball at some point. You don't wanna drop balls that shouldn't be dropped that you have to do in the us I mean, you can't do everything here in Mexico. You can do more than you realize, but you could do most stuff remotely. Yeah, it's true. And then you just hopped on a flight, you're like, Hey, I sold this stuff. I got, I got a one plane ticket. Yeah. Tucson to Phoenix, Phoenix, Puerto Vallarta. And by the way, just, just for the, the viewers listening, like I would recommend that you buy a round trip ticket, uh, whenever you can. Uh, at the very least, you know, you can buy a one way ticket and then buy another return ticket with a service, uh, like one way fly, where they give you basically like a refundable type of ticket because I would not count on immigration, not asking you for your return ticket. Sometimes immigration will ask you for it. Sometimes the airline will actually ask you for it before you board. I know they're doing that all the time now with, with Columbia and with a lot of South American countries, Mexico. I have heard of that happening before. It's just not consistently applied. Hasn't happened. So you kind of slid. You slid under the Maybe I'm lucky radar. I've never been asked about my return. Yeah. To the United States from Mexico. They haven't been too big on, on hassling people with that. But there have been cases we've heard about where mm-hmm. People like literally had to buy a return ticket that day at the airport because they wouldn't let them. Uh, actually board the plane unless they also could show a return ticket. Oh, wow. Even from Mexico? Yeah. Oh, wow. It's crazy. Yeah.'cause they, they, there laws that they've mostly had on the books, like, just like you, you're supposed to get a, a tourist card when you drive in through Arizona, like, uh, from Arizona to into FM Mexico. Get an fm. They were supposed to get their little tourist card, but they just weren't enforcing it. And they were just sort of let people hang out in the border zone without, without needing it. Um, but now they're starting to enforce a lot of the immigration laws, so people think, well, Mexico's just like the wild, wild west and no. Mm, yes and no, like. It's, it's certainly more, more free in a lot of ways than the us but at the same time, um, there are like rules and immigration laws and things that we have to follow. Yeah. Um, and that's something that we help you navigate as well, uh, in the, the white glove relocation services that we provide. So like if you're looking to come down here, Jason still hasn't gotten residency yet, but like that's on, on the cards for you, maybe. Towards the end of the year as you build that, that coaching business background, right? Because your business, and you know what I really like about your story too is that, um, a lot of people will be like, Hey, I have to get my income PA passed a certain level before I even come out to Mexico. Or I need to qualify for residents before I like make it out there and, and whatever. And while that's ideal, um, what I like about what you did is you're like, you know what, Hey, I've got these clients. I'm working in person in the US and because of like legal reasons. That, that you couldn't work remotely on some of those projects, but you're just like, you know what, screw it. I've got savings. I know, I, I know I can make it happen. I've got this YouTube channel we're starting. Yeah. Justin and Amanda kind of taught me how to, how to put all these things together on YouTube and it's starting to grow. And you just sort of like, through, we call that, uh, in the personal development world a lot. You kind of threw your hat over the fence, right? Yeah. Basically. And he's like, all right, I'm gonna make it happen. I said to myself, look, I'm 50 years old. Um, what pro, what job opportunities do I have in the United States other than Walmart or McDonald's at this age? You know what? I've got a life to live. I'm gonna do the best I can with it. Um, I just said, I've got the passport. I can come in as a tourist up to 180 days. I got thousands saved. You don't need much more than that. Yeah. You didn't ha you didn't have to figure out everything in advance. No, not everything. Um, so, so yes. You know, you can definitely go and get residency first. You don't necessarily, if you're in a position like Jason was where. Uh, you're just gonna kinda leave your, your career in whatever you were doing behind, maybe because you want to move to Mexico more than you want to stay in whatever you're, you're doing now, and it is something that's tied to being there in person or you're just like, you know what? I'm bored of this anyway. So I want to move on to something else that's, I mean, moving to another country is a great way to, to kind of create a new, a new identity. Oh, absolutely. A new, a new you, it just hundred percent. Uh, tab as we say, like a, like a blank, uh, clean slate. Clean slate, clean slate. And this wasn't, this wasn't just something I thought about recently, Mexico. I mean, my first trip to Mexico was 30 years ago, May 5th, 1995. I was 20 years old. Mm-hmm. Not an old, not old enough to drink legally in the us. So me and my friends drove from Tucson to the, uh, Mexico border, and we walked into Mexico. Went to a bar, maybe 200 yards south of the border. Yep. Partied for four hours straight. Drinking was all you can drink. Drinking age in Mexico was 18. And then after we were done, we walked back across the border. There's no agents at all to stop us. You just walk back in. I didn't come back to Mexico for 21 years. It wasn't until the spring of 2016 cruise excursion and Ensenada, Baja, California, that made me think, Hey, you know what? I wanna consider staying here long term. Eventually lived there. I mean, Ensenada sold itself to me. It's a wonderful city. Yeah. Yeah, it is. Baha's got a lot of, a lot of really cool towns, so, yeah. So what would you say to anyone, uh, who's like, kind of on the fence and they, they really want to make the move, but they're not sure? They're not, they're not maybe sure in themselves like that it's the right decision or they're not sure that it's really what they want to do, or, or they're just really hesitant because they're, they're afraid of everything that's involved. Yeah, I say I have a couple of my life mottoes. They say knowledge is power. Learn as much you can learn as much as you can about your chosen destination, whether it be Mexico or some other country. And two, my own personal motto is, you're better off. It's better to try and fail than to succeed at doing nothing. Hmm. If you're sitting in the United States, hemming in Hawaii, should I stay or should I go? I don't know. I'm afraid this or that other reason. You're burning away days. You're burning away weeks or a lifetime. You're burning away your lifetime with fear and uncertainty. I say, just like you said, screw it. Just do it. You know? Yeah. You can always come back to the United States. You're a citizen. They can't deny you reentry. It's your own country. Even if your passports expired, they can't. You would be stateless if the United States says, no, you can't come back in. What? Your passport expired. You can't go anywhere else. So you'd be stateless. So no, you can always come back to the S of A, you can always renew your passport. I mean, Amanda renew too. You can renew it overseas at the car, at a consulate, right? Yeah. So passport, cash and a plan that's really, you need to come here ca. Passport cash plus a plan. Pretty simple. So if, if you guys wanna learn more about Jason and his channel, you can go to youtube.com/at the spend channel. Look for at the spend channel, the spend channel on YouTube or the spend channel.com. So my website is spend channel.com. Spend channel dot Without the do, without the, the perfect. You should buy the, the too. Yeah, I should, I should redirect anybody. Yeah, I, I was thinking about that. So yeah, get that other url. The URLs are cheap to buy. Just redirect it. But spend channel.com right. Or, or check'em out on YouTube And Spend, spend, channel, and spend is an acronym that stands for Single Parent Empty Nester Digital Nomad, which is who I am. Love it. And yeah, you help a lot of those people figure out what their plans are for moving overseas. Yes. Even if they're just in the baby. Steps, even if they're, they're like lost and clueless. Well, yeah, I can help the people who are passport less and clueless. I'll help them get their passport, figure out where to go and arrange a scouting trip. You know, that's all part of my offering package. Amazing. Well, if you're, if you're at that, uh, at that point in your journey where you're kind of just looking at different countries, you want to get all of the. All of the, uh, little pieces set up before you start off on your digital nomad or your expat journey. Definitely hit up Jason. Uh, he's, he's a great guy. He's very knowledgeable. Thank you. He's been able to, to do a lot of this on his own. Yeah. And some of it with, with our help, um, including YouTube and all that. And then if you're in a place where you're like, Hey. Uh, I'm ready to go. You know, we, we've got retirement, uh, we've got savings. We've got remote income of at least$5,000 a month to qualify for that residency. Or you've got a few hundred thousand in the bank to qualify for, uh, Mexican residency, like based on investments or savings. Then definitely check out the link below at this video. Which is entrepreneur expat.com/consult, and you can talk to Amanda and myself and, and we can also help you guide, guide you along that process. And we'll tell you a little bit about our white glove services for relocation, where we have our team of attorneys and, and CPAs and immigration specialists and real estate advisors that we've built here in Guadalajara and throughout the country. Uh, figure out your unique needs in terms of investment, residency, immigration, all that fun stuff, entrepreneur expat.com/consult. Anything else you wanna share? Uh, with our viewers today? Yeah, once, once again, my website, S-P-E-N-D channel.com. Amazing. Well, thank you so much for being a part of this journey. Uh, we've gotten so much feedback from you guys over the last few weeks of all these people that have been watching our channel that didn't even necessarily work with us one-on-one. Um, but we're able to just watch all the free content and move to Mexico or move to other countries. Uh, because we had inspired them to do so, so we're so grateful, uh, for your, your, your viewership and your love and support and your feedback. And, uh, we hope to inspire many more people along the journey, just like Jason and so many of you guys. Uh, that's all for now. We'll see you again on the next one, and we're about to go enjoy some amazing dessert, uh, down the street at our favorite reia. So we'll see you again on the next video. Bye