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Are you interested in moving to another country to live the life of your dreams, but perhaps you have a spouse that maybe isn't quite so sure. I'm here with my wife, Amanda, and on this video we're gonna be talking about how to convince your spouse. To move abroad if you're really serious about moving to another country, and maybe they're not sure if they're quite ready yet. Welcome to Entrepreneur Expat. I'm Amanda. This is Justin. And on this channel we typically talk about doing business overseas, running online businesses. International real estate globally diversifying yourself and current events that affect expats. So if that's something that you're interested in, make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell so you don't may say single video that we have coming out on this channel. If you are interested in moving to, or investing in Mexico, which is, we're, we're spending a lot of time right now, we can help you do that with our team. We have a team of immigration attorneys, immigration experts, accountants in both the United States and Mexico. We also have a network of real estate professionals all over the country that can help you buy or sell your property if you already have one here in Mexico. And we also have contacts in Costa Rica and Panama. So if any of those things interest you, just go to entrepreneur expat.com/consult and we can help you out. Okay. So why did we decide to do this video? This is a little different from what we normally do. We're usually covering, you know, current events or. Um, you know, financial planning for expats or different countries. Why did we decide to do this one specifically? Well, Amanda, we, we did this video today because we've been hearing a lot from both potential clients of ours as well as just a lot of members in general of our community that have that, that, that issue where they're like, you know what? I'm really ready to move abroad. My wife or my husband, like maybe isn't quite so sure. And even to a smaller degree, when people are already starting to work with us, they're about to move forward. There's typically one spouse that's a little bit more ready or more down, if you will, than the other spouse. So we wanted to talk about that, uh, what that sort of looks like and what some of the questions you can ask and what some of the things you can say are. So that you guys can really just get a little bit more on the same page. Yeah. So if you're married and you're in this situation, this is gonna be very helpful for you. We'll also be sharing more of like our story of how we got together because you had to do a little convincing to get me to go abroad, but not really,'cause I was totally full of it. So we'll talk about that story. Um, and for those of you who are single. Um, and ready to mingle, then this is going to be helpful for you as well, or those of you who are dating,'cause we'll probably talk to that crowd first so that you can avoid a lot of headaches, uh, down the road. So for those who are single or dating, right, let's start there and just get that one out of the way, right, because they can very easily avoid this issue. What would you say to those guys? Absolutely. So like, if you're single right now or you're just in that dating phase, maybe you. Are already starting to live abroad or maybe you're still dating in your home country, but you know that you have a plan on, uh, moving abroad in the near future. It's important, like with anything else in dating, to just be really clear about your values upfront. When Amanda and I first met, I think both of us, like you said earlier, like you alluded to, we were both very interested in traveling the world and exploring and, and, uh, seeing other parts of the world, not just staying in one place. And yeah, you were a little scared to leave Miami in your hometown and all that, but you were definitely down, right? You were, you were definitely down with that plan. Um, so it's important to be upfront with your values because let's say that you don't let your potential partner or potential spouse know. What your future is, what you're, what you're planning on doing, what you're committed to for yourself. Well, all that causes is a ton of conflict down the line because you're not actually fighting for your own values, fighting for, Hey, this is who I am, this is what I want to do. And if you do mention those things, yes, there's a chance that the person that's sitting across the table from you might say, you know what? That, that's not really what I wanna do. Or maybe, maybe they're, they're just kind of timid or they're not really sure and they're like. Open to the idea, but you want to get really clear that, hey, this is, if we're dating long term, this is definitely something that I'm serious about. Like, are you, are you on that plan with me or not? Just like having kids just like, you know, pets, um, things that, you know, other different types of preferences. Those are really important. You want to talk to your partner about. The fact that you want to explore and live in other countries? Yeah, I mean, choosing where to live or, you know, living in multiple places or traveling like that. I mean, it is a big thing that you have to figure, figure out. I think, uh, and we can talk a little bit about this. I. I think a lot of people have a lot of very real fears that come up and we'll get to that. Yeah.'cause there's some very real fears that come up for spouses and those apply to both the, the people that are Yeah. In a relationship and that, that are maybe single and Yeah. They're afraid that that person might reject them or that maybe they're not gonna be down with the plan. So instead of just being honest and upfront and saying, Hey, this is what I'm about, they tend to like hide that stuff until. That may be eventual later, and they just, that, that later never really comes. So they go into a relationship, just like you've heard of relationships where, you know, they're, they're two or three years into even a marriage and then one spouse wants to have kids and then another one doesn't. Right. This is similar. Like, wait, similar, hold on. Didn't you talk about that before? Yeah. You got married. I, you said some, some interesting things when we were discussing relationships a little while back where you're like, you know, people. Go. Why? Why do people go into relationships typically, if they're not gonna be aligned on values? Like what, what have you seen in terms of the, the, the common scenarios there? Feelings chemistry and trauma bonding. Yeah, mostly. That's all right. I mean, we're not gonna get, we're not relationship coaches. There's like a romanticization of, of relationships. So I think we talked, did this, when we talked about passport bros, I learned a lot about dating from, uh, Eastern women. Mm-hmm. Because they date based on like, here are the values, here are the goals, like. You know, if you're in India, like the whole family needs to approve the person and there's like a protocol kind of a thing, and well, we don't do that in the west. Yeah. What's the difference between the east and the west in terms of those datings? In the West it's very like romanticized, right? So for example, like in the United States, you'll, and even in Latin America, it's romanticized and I'll talk about it in example, in the West it's like. All based on your feelings and the individual and, uh, that person's so hot in the initial attraction in chemistry, but a lot of people don't realize, I think you're hot. Thank you. A lot of people don't realize that the, uh, initial attraction in chemistry. Um, is not necessarily what keeps long-term relationships together. What keeps long-term relationships together is values, shared goals around we should be around relationship coaches. What do, what do you think, guys, let us know in the comments. Should we launch a side hustle as expect dating, expat, dating, expat dating, dating, expat dating coaches or something, let us know. Now going back to expat dating, some of you might be thinking, okay, well where am I gonna find this person? Because let's be real, right? Like trying finding somebody. If you're the type of person, especially if you're like the more nomadic kind of person, we joke that we're semi nomadic, like we have this. Trend where we like travel a lot and then we change where we're living like every two years. And now we've got goals where we're like, oh, okay, you know, maybe we'll start changing countries every six months. Like, we're not there yet. It's something that we're talking about. We'll get to like how we have those discussions, uh, later.'cause they might be really helpful. But, um, you know, if you're in like, let's be real, like trying to find somebody who's like down for this lifestyle. Like, it's not a very common thing, right? It, it's already contrarian. To kind of be like, Hey, I'm gonna go leave the United States or Canada or Europe or Australia or wherever you're watching from. Right? And I'm gonna go leave my home country, uh, and I'm gonna go travel the world, or I'm gonna go abroad'cause I want to, right? Yeah. Because it's a desire of my, it's not that common. It's not that common. Um, so it's a, it's common in like these small communities, like the expat community and like with you guys, because we're already here kind of sharing a common interest. But if you look at, let's say a few thousand subscribers that we now have, and hopefully that's. A hundred thousand by the time you watch this video. We'll see. Uh, but out of 7 billion people, right? Yeah. And even if you combine all the, the different expat channels, like maybe there's a million, couple million unique people, a few, I don't know, let's call it 5 million. Well, with American expats, I think that's anywhere from like five to 9 million that are overseas. Yeah. But my point is, but it doesn't include that everybody's small sample size of the population. Tiny, tiny sample size of the population. Most people like don't even leave their home city most of the time. It's kind of sad. I mean, yeah.'cause there's a lot to explore, but that's what most people are conditioned into. So if you're like in that dating phase, you know, start exploring, start going out in the world, start booking the tickets, right? Because that's how you're gonna find people that are into traveling or you know, for us it was a little bit different because we were both in online business. We met through a networking group and usually people who run online businesses, they do it because they wanna go travel. Yeah. And I think there's a whole other video we do on. How to find your, your partner if you're an expat. Yeah. Like how, how to date as an expat. Maybe that is another, maybe that is another little niche there. Yeah. I know you did more international dating than I did, so Wow. Um, so that's something, you know, start getting out there and that's how you're gonna be able to, to meet people that are more interested in this kind of a lifestyle. Um, because it's not common, like we're just gonna be honest. It's not, uh, it is becoming more mainstream, right? But it's still not common now for those of you who are married, right? Because if you're dating, it's easy, right? Like you're either with it or you're not. And you move on until you find the person who's with it, right? And you just live your best life when you're married. Uh, especially like, let's say you've been married for a long time.'cause we got married knowing that we were going to do this, right? Mm-hmm. But we work with a lot of clients who've been married for a long time. And then one spouse is like, Hey, I can't take this shit anymore. Like, let's move to another country. Or now it's a desire of theirs because so much has changed in the world too, in terms of what people are able to do and what they have access to. And then like the other spouse is like, well wait a second. This was not something that was in the game plan. You know? Uh, so that happens. Uh, or maybe, you know, they have been talking about it for a long time. Like you with me, right? You're like, well, why don't you just come to Mexico? After you'd been to Miami and, and Yeah. You know, we were, well even, even before I came to Miami, I was like, why don't you just come out here and just come, come live in Mexico with me? And that was, and I was like, no, you're coming to Miami first and you're meeting my whole family. We're not doing that. Right. Ladies and all your childhood friends and Yes. Uhhuh. Um, and, um, because my Latin family had to do the F Latin FBI thing. Yeah, yeah. You know, when you're dating. So Totally. There's that. Um. And even still me, I had hesitations. Right. Not because, and I think we should talk about some of the hesitations and fears that spouses and partners might have. Right? I had hesitations that weren't even necessarily rooted in reality. I. To be honest, I'd been researching how to live in other countries and had YouTube playlists and all kinds of things for at least five years by the time that I met you and I still gave you shit, you know, and had hesitations. Um, oh, and your parents were like freaked out by the idea. It was like, what? You're gonna, you're gonna just go and move to another country with this? Boy, like, what? Are you crazy? And now we're married, you're a Nina de Casa. Um, but you know, Latins are very close. It's difficult, things like that. But let's talk about, you know, some of those fears and, and hesitations. That might be coming up for people. I know a really big one is, what about kids? Right? We don't have kids in full dis We have, we have this cat and then there's a dog under the chair. There's a dog under the chair. Hey Daisy, you may not be able to see, but she's down there. Um, she, she comes and says hi on video sometimes, but kids is a big one, right? Where people are like, well, how am Or pets, I mean, or both pets. Both, right. But kids, let's talk kids specifically. Yeah. You know, kids are a big one.'cause they're like, how are they gonna go to school? How are they gonna go to school? Yeah. How am I gonna keep them safe? It's like, guys, there's, there's. Millions of kids in other countries too, and they're not getting kidnapped on the streets and they're getting an education and they speak English. We're shot at the school. Uh, yeah. Well actually, so on that note, um, you know, they talk about things like safety and I'll, I'll do a little, little tangent here to say, in Mexico, we don't have parents frantic about every time they send their kids to school thinking that God forbid there's gonna be some kind of mass, mass casualty event in that school of some type. We don't have, we don't have those things happen. Yeah. In our, like, it's so rare in our neighborhood. Kids are out playing on the street by themselves all the time. Yeah. It's really interesting. Like even, even here in the, the community we live in, uh, up, up, uh, on the mountain here, you'll see kids like playing on the sidewalks and the street running around basically by themselves unsupervised playing soccer. Yeah. Out in the park. It doesn't happen in the US because. There's, there's so many threats there to children, and it's, it's, it's sickening to think about, but not just the, the shootings, but also you got like a lot of, a lot of creepers. You got a lot of, there's just weird stuff. I don't know if it's something in the water. I don't know if it's just like a lot of just societal contagion, but it's very difficult from everything that we've seen for kids to even like be safe there for parents to feel, I mean, since the, the seventies, the eighties. It's not more. Yeah.'cause they take the kids grades in, in the seventies were just outplay streets. Yeah. They were the, the, the, the, the key, the latching key. Yeah. Kids. But I mean, in my generation, I, I wasn't really playing, I mean, other than maybe in right in the cul-de-sac there with my parents. Right. Watching or close by. Oh no I wasn't. Yeah. Um, yeah, Miami's definitely more dangerous than where I grew up in, in the Bay. But, uh, in California. But still, like in general, in the US it's not safe to leave your kids to, to just play. You know, with each other on, on the, on the street and have a basketball game or whatever. Like, if you're not there as a parent, you're not gonna feel comfortable. But here in Mexico and in a lot of other countries, in Latin America, they're actually significantly more safe. And there's a lot less crime that happens, um, against children. And, and guess what? The, the school system in the US sucks. Like, it's not, people are keep saying, oh, you, the US is the best and this and this and that. And Canada, it's very similar too. In the education it ranks Okay. In the it ranks. Okay. It's like very middle tier. Yeah. Um, and I'm not saying the, the Mexican public school system ranks better necessarily than the US public school system. No. Most expats put their kids in international schools. Yeah, exactly. They'll put their kids in private international schools where they're, they're becoming bilingual. They're getting a lot of cultural exposure. They're making friends with like kids of diplomats that are there, for example. Yeah. Um, learn learning different languages, different, different talents. Learning they have friends from, from multiple countries. Exactly. Um, there's also homeschooling like world school, things like that, that those homeschooling communities have become of, of digital nomad families and things like that. And those options are better than the average option of a school in the US in most cases too. Yeah. And I was reading a book the other day that was talk, and I think you have a book about this on Kindle. We share the Kindle right. About how. Like industries are basically like changing and the economies are changing and things are being destroyed. And you have to think about that too when you're like, okay, well if AI like does the United States School system or the UK or Australia or any country for that matter, right? Like does, do they hold the monopoly on actually teaching your kid the skills that they need in order to survive into the world? Yeah. And not just survive, but thrive into like the economies and the world that we're moving into. Usually the answer is no. And why? Why do you think that is though? Like, why do you think that the. The mindset of like the average person, let's say in the US or Canada or somewhere, is so ingrained in thinking that the education system and perhaps all of the other societal systems in their country is like the greatest or the best. They don't dunno anything else. Yeah, that's basically, but where does it come from? I, I would say that's a good point too in the us. A lot of people don't even have, like, the majority of people don't even have passports now. It's like 60% of US citizens don't even have a passport. Like most Americans have no idea what even goes on in other countries. And yeah, I don't know if Canadians are as bad, but, you know, um, but I mean, we know a lot of Canadians who also don't know what's going on in a lot of other countries. I if, if it's as bad. In Canada, but they just don't know anything else. That's usually what people say. They just don't know anything else. And I think it's part of the dogma too. I think it's part of the propaganda that's, that's being passed down in schools and other educational systems in the media and all, all the, all the, all the mainstream news that says that all these other places are dangerous. The US is number one. And that to, to our current topic of like why your spouse might feel that. They, you know, with kids, like, wouldn't feel safe having their kids raised in another country. That's one of the biggest reasons, really. Yeah. Uh, that in education or my kid needs to adjust. Like, we've met a lot of kids in Mexico who are, um, you know, children of expats or maybe children of, uh, Mexican Americans, and they go back and forth all the time. Our neighbor has his grandkid here, uh, for the, like, he doesn't wanna go back. The kid has, he's probably like eight years old and he's literally said, I don't want to go back. Uh, to the United States, he is adjusting just fine. Um, so yeah. And they, they do especially like when, when they're younger. I, I, I think it's almost the adults that are, have a little bit of a harder time adjusting. Yeah.'cause they're sort of set in their ways and how they want things and, and like certain expectations that aren't necessarily. Uh, the most important things at the end of the day. Yeah. But there are things that you, you know, you grew up with, let's say, a certain, uh, standard of how quickly you get your service at the restaurant or something like that, which we'll, we'll talk about in another topic, which is kind of those cultural differences. But kids adjust actually very, very quickly. We've seen, yeah. And I've interviewed tons of people on this YouTube channel, expats living all over the World, from Jamaica to Europe to all Over who have children. Some of them, you know, ex uh, went to another country and they're staying there. Others are more nomadic and they're like, my kids are doing great. Yeah. So I would say in terms of the topic of kids, the best way to, to really open up your partner or your spouse's mind to this is just show them. Do research on, on your end and show them what all the options are. Don't just expect them to just all of a sudden have like a change of faith and be like, okay, yeah, sure. You have to present evidence, you have to present compelling evidence. You have to, you know, slowly open their mind up to, Hey, there's this option for homeschooling. There's like, I think it's called World School Think that's one of them. Yeah. It's where it's a com, like a community thing. And they're doing there things online, international schools. Exactly. Yeah. And show them all the options. Go and talk to the schools, research the prices, figure out what their curriculum is like, and then look at. And, and say, honey, look at, I did all this research, you know, this is the school that Jimmy can go to with like this thing and this thing and this thing, and here's how it'll work. And I, they have better, better standardized test scores than even the, the schools here in our county. Yeah, right. So doing that kind of research and Yeah. Yeah. So. We'll get to research in a second. Educating yourself. That's gonna be a common theme is the research in terms of convincing your spouse. Um, and in terms of pets, right? That's another one that's a big concern for people. Yeah. Daisy was actually, she's, she's the big golden dog. The retriever down there under your chair. Mm-hmm. She's, uh, actually Mexican, born and raised. She came from Los Cabos. She was born in Cabo San Lucas. I know you, you were honey, you remember Cabo. She actually came from a long line of fish dogs. Not fish. Dogs. Dogs that were on fishing boats, but I digress. They weren't like hybrid fish. But anyway. Uh. Uh, she, she came from Cabo. She, she traveled actually to the US all, all around the us. Daisy's been to multiple cities with me. She's been to Columbia and then back to Mexico here. Mia is a little Mexican street cat that we rescued here in Guadalajara. Right? Yeah. And, um, you know, she, she's obviously been here, but Daisy's traveled back and forth. We have plenty of friends we know that have brought their pets, that bring'em back and forth. If you have a car and you're gonna drive that car down anyway, you just bring'em down to somewhere like Mexico or even Central America, not that big of a deal, or you fly'em. We have friends who just flew three cats to Thailand,'cause they moved to Thailand from the United States. So it's definitely done. In terms of Mia, we're getting her used to traveling first cars. Then boats, I think, we'll, we'll, we'll step up to, I dunno if the cat will do a boat to boats. We have a lot of boats here in Lake Al. And then, you know, one of our, our partners here in the Chapala area has a bed and breakfast that's pet friendly and she goes, bring the cat. So we're starting to get her more accustomed to it, you know, but there's ways around it. People do it all the time. There's even airlines that are specifically like their niche is transporting pets. Yeah. Even if you, let's say you're coming down to Mexico and you don't have a car, and let's say that your dog isn't, you know, small enough to fit or a service dog or, or something like that where you could just bring him up in the cabin with you. There are services that'll bring your dog by land to another country. And yeah, you might end up paying a couple thousand dollars, but you can get a professional driver to bring them down to wherever you are and not have to worry about, uh, anything other than you just flying to the city. And then the dog arrives a little later by car. Um, and you're good to go. Like, it's not that complicated. You just typically you'll need your rabies shots, you'll need maybe a veterinary certificate. Um, but it's, it's, I mean, with Daisy, when we went to Columbia, I got all of our paperwork together in less than two weeks. Yeah. Between the time I decided to go there from Austin and the time we landed in, in Medi. Yeah. So it wasn't that complicated of a process. It was a few hundred dollars. Got her paperwork, got her certificates. Her export permit, whatever it is. And, and you're good to go. And we landed and we're fine. Yeah. And this is one of the things, if you're interested in Mexico, we can help you with. So entrepreneur x back.com/consult. Um, okay. And then another concern is like if they have elderly parents mm-hmm. Uh, like okay, bring'em. Yeah. I mean that's, that's probably the easiest way to do it. To have a nurse actually full-time living with you or, or the entire, let's say the entire day, and they, they come and go. You're gonna pay like a fifth or as little as a 10th of what you would pay in the US for that same service, maybe even less if you're somewhere like Southeast Asia. So you're not only gonna save money, they're gonna have probably a much better quality of life because there's so much land here. Like right behind us, we're, we're right by the lake. You can find somewhere in nature with a lot of space, um, or, or a city where you have more room. You're not cramped somewhere in a house, you know, a little house or an apartment. You've got more room to breathe, better food. They're gonna have a better quality of life. You're gonna have a better quality of life because you're not dealing with a country that you don't want to be in anymore just because you feel obligated to your aging parents. To be able to, to stay there. And we know a lot of people who've moved their aging parents overseas and then they can more easily afford care for their aging parents overseas than they would in the US or Canada. Absolutely. And much better care, too. Quality. Yeah. So that's also our quality. That's also something, uh, to consider as well. We know people who've done it. It is an option, uh, that is available out there that I think a lot of people just don't realize is an option. I think is, is part of it. Yep. You know, I think a lot of people just don't realize that they have options in life. They're not stuck. Yeah. For everything. For kids, for parents. Okay. What other, what, what are some of the other topics you've heard about healthcare? Healthcare comes up a lot. Oh, this is a good one. Yeah. No, it's not like we have, I mean, doctors or emergency rooms or hospitals in Mexico. Uh, yeah. We actually do better ones. In a lot of cases, they're better in Guadalajara, for example, you, you'll find some of the best hospitals in all of Latin America because we have one of the best medical schools. Yeah. Uh, in the University of Guadalajara in the entire region. And so. The healthcare is at least on par with the US in terms of private healthcare. And the other thing is, oh no, it's better because you can actually talk to your doctor on what's happening. That was, that was a thing I was getting to, which is And actually solve your health problem. Right. So it's, it's, it's, it's on par in terms of like the hospitals, the staff, the quality of machines, it's pretty much the same. But then you have much more access. So if you go to a private, let's say dermatologist or some, you know, a, a gastroenterologist or some other specialist, maybe you're paying 40 to$60 us. Out of pocket. That's not a copay. That's like you don't have insurance and you're gonna visit them just completely out of pocket with your own money. Under a hundred dollars per visit for the entire thing. And they're in most cases spending like up to an hour with you. This isn't like you're in and out in 15 minutes in your primary care visit or your, your specialist visit, like they're with you an hour, an hour and a half. They're going through your labs, they're out, they're answering your questions, and that's like out of pocket. I mean, I think on average maybe$50 per, per visit is what we've spent. Medicine is way cheaper here. Insulin is like a 20th of the price or, or less. Depending on where, where you are in in the world, but they don't have all these same monopolies. A lot of the time. The governments, which. I'm not a big fan of government intervention, but in certain cases you have health monopolies in the US driving up things like the price of insulin driving up specialty drugs in Columbia. It's all regulated in Mexico, it's very similar as well, where you have a maximum price that you can sell a given drug to, and if a company will not produce a, a generic version. The government will say, okay, well we're just gonna produce it and we're gonna g give that to the public because they don't allow things like price gouging that are happening in the US with a lot of these pharmaceutical companies. Yeah. And these monopolies and things like that. So it's a, a higher quality of care overall, right? Same machines that exactly the same machines, if not better, in some cases are newer that you find in the US significantly cheaper. Much more access to the doctors. They'll even give you their WhatsApp number a lot of the times in case you have some kind of question or emergency or anything else. Yeah. And you don't have to deal with all this BS with insurance. I mean, you can get private insurance and I do recommend that you have it for like major medical issues, uh, or conditions. But insurance is a lot easier here, um, from everything that we've seen. Yeah, it's a much smoother process. And on the healthcare front, like a lot of expats overall live a much healthier life.'cause the food quality is better. They're walking more. Uh, you just. Just a healthier overall, which is way more important actually in my book than like eventual access to doctors anyway. Yeah. Because if you think about it this way, oh, like I, you know, I need it to be in the US because I have Kaiser insurance there and I have to be able to go to a Kaiser or, or I have to be able to, you know, use my, my Medicare in the US or whatever. It's like, well, sure, maybe, but what if you just didn't have to go to the doctor at all? What if you started eating better? Because here they don't poison the food nearly as much as they do in other countries. Yeah. It's healthier food. It's a lot of, it's local, it's farm grown, like just a lot of the farms here. We've got berries right across the lake that are produced at a farm locally. Yeah. We've got a lot of, yeah, you just go on from the market every, a lot of farms and, and it's locally grown and, and locally, uh. Raised meat and locally butchered and everything, it's much healthier. It's much, I wouldn't even call it organic because it doesn't have to be right, but if you eat healthy and you walk, because cities are so much better planned here, versus going to a car, all going into a car all the time and not getting exercise and because you don't have to pay so much in rent and healthcare and food. You actually have time to exercise and enjoy life, so you're happier. So you're emotionally better, so you're less stressed, you're eating better, you're walking more, you're exercising. You have a better community here of like expats and other people that are smiling at you and, and, and saying hi in the, in the street or on the sidewalk and you know your neighbors and you're not stressed. You're risk of a lot of things is gonna go down. Yeah. Obviously this is not medical advice, right? Yeah. Consult your physician if there's some kind of specific condition or try to find a specific doctor maybe that'll help you with, with the condition that you have. We've seen, we've seen and heard stories of a lot of people, they'll come to Mexico, they'll come somewhere else outside of the us. Things like A DHD go away and their kids. Yeah. Um, a lot, a lot of other symptoms and, and conditions that they thought may not have even been curable have gone away because they've reduced their stress and then final thing that I think stresses a lot of people out, and if we're missing anything, let us know in the comments. It's just a logistics of it all because, uh, you know, especially when you're doing that first one. I think once you get used to it, like for example, right, our first move to Mexico, well, you were already here, but it was like, my God, it took us like a year to get the house prepared the way that we wanted it. And then this time we moved to somewhere else. Mexico and we had the whole house set up in a month. Like you just, we also knew what to expect. We knew what to expect. We knew what to do, like, um, you know, so it gets easier with time. We've traveled a lot, uh, together in Mexico and out of Mexico as well, so you do get used to it, right? And you do learn the hacks and the tricks and all that stuff, but I think that first one, right. That first one's the rough one. Yeah. And, and the reason in terms of logistics, the reason for that in terms of logistics is because there's just so much to figure out. You're adapting to a new culture, potentially learning or, or reinforcing a new language. You're understanding like the customs and the way of life, like, it took me six months to just start to understand that when a, a contractor says that they're gonna come and fix a problem that you're having in your house, manana, it might mean that they're coming tomorrow. It might mean they're coming in a week. It might mean they're coming whenever it's convenient to them when they don't have too much work to do. Or it might mean that they're just blowing you off hard to tell without a bunch more context. Um, so with things like house maintenance, you just learn to do a lot, a little bit more of that, uh, by yourself. Like, Hey, I, I learned a lot about plumbing and electrical and so many other things, right? Yeah. But I think it's the logistics of the move, right? It's like, oh, okay. And, and one of the, our guests on this podcast. Elizabeth, she has a farm with her family in Columbia. Go check it out. We'll have to visit. Yeah, we're gonna have to visit. Basically. She brought up this very interesting point, which I would love your opinion on actually, because I asked her this. I was like, look, we hear it from the men all the time.'cause we hear it more from the men than the women. Right? That the men are like gung-ho and they're ready to go. And the spouse, their wife just doesn't want to, sometimes it is reversed, but we will hear it more from men and um. I asked her, I'm like, why do you think that is? And she brought up this very interesting point. She goes, here's my tip. Right. And I guess, you know, she, she, she had to go through this with her husband, and I realized it was the experience that I had with you, which was like, uh, I had a positive experience with you. Mm-hmm. Let me explain where she goes. A lot of men will maybe like go to their wives and be like, let's do this thing. And then the wife thinks that like all the planning is on her. So she has to figure out the immigration logistics. She has to figure out, uh, you know, how to get to the other country. She has to figure out the school, the transporting of the pets. Like, yep. She has to figure out housing'cause she,'cause she's used to, I guess women are used to doing a lot. Um, you know. Sure. So then their husband comes to them and they're like, let's move to another country. And they're like. No, because I'm the one who's going to have to plan all of that. It's a no, I've got enough on my plate. Well, that, and, and you know, this, this goes, this touches on our, our little foray into, into relationship coaching perhaps, but I think that that speaks a lot more than anything to the cultural, I'm just gonna say this perversion that's happening between men and women in the US and like the, the, the roles and how things have. Moved away from traditional values and traditional households and how men used to be responsible for not just, you know, bringing home the bacon, but also like making decisions in the family and, and just making sure that all the things, uh, that had to be taken care of logistically happened. And so the issue with situations like that unfortunately is that, whether it's because of that relationship specifically or just because of that woman's experience. With men in general, she feels like the burden of handling all those things is on her, and that's not how it should be. I think that's, that's really a side effect of what's going on right now with Western Society where, and maybe it's the fifth wave of feminism, maybe it's something else, but. Women are having all this, these responsibilities put under their plate that they didn't really want, but then that somebody taught them that they should have because it gives them freedom or it gives them power. In reality, they're overwhelmed. They've already got so much shit on their plate. They're overwhelmed and And they're overwhelmed. And then their spouse goes to them and says, let's move to their country. Right. And so I'll say, she's like, you're crazy. I'll say two things to that. Yeah. One is that I think that men and women both need to look at. What it is that they actually want and not follow what society tells them to want. Whether it's red pill on the, on one hand, or feminism on the other hand, both dangerous, both are extremely dangerous of the extremes. Yeah. But what's going on there is, is that that's something that's an imbalance in the relationship, which probably takes looking at, or maybe therapy or maybe looking at philosophies that are, that are not. The mainstream of what, what the west, you know, media and the west and and society is telling you to, to do. But from a mens, from a man's perspective, let's say that it's, it's, it's the man in the relationship that is saying, you know, I wanna do this. It's important to make your wife feel secure and knowing that you're actually taking responsibility and doing the research and not putting the burden of another thing on her, because that not only is gonna. Make her much more down for that adventure, but it's also gonna give you a lot more security and structure and strength in that relationship period. That was my experience with you. I didn't have to worry about anything. Oh, do tell. I didn't have to worry about anything. You were just like, come to Mexico. The plan was six weeks. This was after, you know, we'd been dating for a while. You just met my whole family. Just six weeks was the plan and I was supposed to go back. That obviously did not happen. Nope. Right. And we got married and, and all that stuff. And um, you know, but I didn't have to worry about anything. I mean, I, the moment I landed here, you already had me booked like,'cause you thought I was just gonna be here for six weeks. You're like, you have to go to this doctor, this doctor, this doctor, this doctor. Get your teeth checked. Get your teeth cleaned, get your feelings done. Whatever you need. Yeah. Get your feelings done. Get your teeth done. Go to the eye doctor, because that stuff is so much more expensive in the United States. You're like looking up doctor's appointments for me to just get it done.'cause I was gonna be picked you up at the airport. Picked me up at the airport. Mm-hmm. I didn't have to worry about any of that with flowers. Um, and, you know, but e everything, the housing, you've handled it. You were like three hours late. Oh yeah. I was three hours late. We got delayed in Mexico City. Yeah, I remember that. Um, you know, but basically I didn't have to worry about anything in terms of logistics, housing. That was you, you know, when we were going out on, on trips and things like that. Housing you handled the immigration. That was all you, you know, and with the help of attorneys that we, that you already knew and that we worked with, but it was all you. I didn't have to worry about anything. Mm-hmm. Nothing. Nothing. Uh, insurance. Like, oh, what, how does health insurance work? The hell, if I know how health insurance works, we'll even have clients be like, Hey Amanda, what health insurance do you recommend? And I'll be like, go ask Justin. He buys all the insurance, he handles all those things. Um, so I don't have to handle those things basically. And that gave me a level of, um, safety and security as your partner. And then, you know, now your wife, you know that now when you're like. Hey, you know, how about we do six months here and six months over there? I'm like, I'm down, right? Because I know that you've got it handled. Like obviously there's things I have to help with and, and things like that. And transporting the cat, transporting, you know, pets and things. You're gonna, you have the cat, I'll take the dog on a plane. Um, you know, so it's, it's not like it all falls on one person, but to your point, you know, I thought it was so interesting when EL brought that up on the. On the podcast because speaking as a woman who coached women for 15 years on their businesses mm-hmm. I do know that that's a thing, right? Yeah. And if your spouse just shows up outta nowhere and it's like, let's go. Right? Like she, you're overwhelmed. You're overwhelmed. Your, your nervous system is. What, what the hell is going on? What do you mean? We're just gonna upload, uproot our life and Yeah, take our children and move to another country. God knows where I don't speak in a lick of Spanish. Like how, how on earth is that gonna work? Exactly. Because, you know, it's, it's all about presentation too. If you present this idea to your partner and you're like, let's go and do this thing, and, but you haven't done any research on it and you, you don't know. You don't wanna just like lay that on someone like that. Yeah, either way. I think that's a big, big thing. Either way. Like if it's the woman who wants to go and the man's not dead like you, she, you don't wanna do that either. You don't just wanna lay it on him and be like, because it also feels like we're moving in two weeks. It also feels like an ultimatum, right? Yeah. I could, I could go from Austin to Meine in two weeks, uh, when I was single on my own and just figure out the logistics and make it happen.'cause I didn't have a. You know, I didn't have a, wasn't in a relationship at the time, but if you're in a relationship, you can't just spring that on someone, even if you think you could figure it out in that period of time. You gotta, you gotta kind of go slow and first, you know, maybe start watching some travel vlogs together and then tell them to subscribe to Entrepreneur Expat. If you haven't already and you're watching our videos, definitely make sure you like and subscribe. Like that little plug there. So, no, um, oh, go ahead. So, so yeah, you, you gotta, you gotta get them, like watching content like this, right? Learning about what it's actually like to live in other countries. Yeah. Right, and, and figuring out the logistics and what that looks like and what the step-by-step process is, which by the way, you guys don't have to do that alone. Like we literally can do it for you. Yeah. If you're interested in getting support for you and your spouse. Moving to another country, go to entrepreneur expat.com/consult to apply for your free consultation. We'll help you through the entire process, logistics, pets, car importation, whatever you need. We have a team of experts in Mexico, even immigration, immigration, company formation, all that stuff, taxes, all that stuff that PE that goes into it. And make sure your spouse comes on that call as well. We need you both there. Because it's a decision you're making together. Yeah. Yeah. You can't do this thing where you're like, Hey, I'm doing this call, but my spouse has no idea I'm doing this, first of all, no. Uh, and second of all, if for something so massive, I mean, you, you guys need to make this decision. Together. So now let's talk about the magic word when you are in a relationship, because you and I are starting to talk about what our next adventures might look like and all that kind of stuff. And by the way, we also have done a lot of work together in terms of like, uh, that's a whole other conversation. Personal development. No, I meant like running businesses with you. Oh, spouse. That too. That's a whole, we've also done a lot of work on ourselves. Yeah. It's a whole other conversation. Um, you know, but for example, um. One of the things that, that we are starting to talk about is like, oh, okay, you know, we've been doing Mexico for a while. What are we interested in next? Can we diversify? Things like that. Now, obviously I'm a lot more open to it because I've, I did Mexico, Mexico's the soft landing. Yep. For a lot of people. Uh, it's a good place to start on the international lifestyle, and we're starting to have conversations about this, and I think one of the most important words here is. Compromise. Compromise, absolutely. If you're married, you're married, right? Because like you said, when you were single, you could just pack up your shit and just go in two weeks and it was like, no big deal. But now there's more things to, there's a whole other person, well, and Mia and Daisy, and also two pets of course, that that need to be considered and, and running and work and running a business and all that kind of stuff. So what are some of the ways in which people can compromise? Because I think one example might be. When I arrived in Mexico, we were actually kind of nomadic at first before we started this YouTube channel. We traveled through lots of parts of Mexico and then I'm the one who was like, I like Guadalajara. And then he's like, then we're staying, which was the easiest thing for me to do. But yeah, as as an example. So Amanda came down here and I was not attached to one specific place. In fact, right before you came, I was actually in the middle of almost moving to Porto Escondido. Which is a little beach town in Oaxaca in the south of Mexico. And I'm glad that I didn't, although maybe eventually we end up somewhere out there, but in, in different, you know, under different circumstances. At least Oaxaca is high up on my visiting list. Absolutely. Yeah. Um, and you're glad also that we didn't move to some little tiny beach town. So instead of moving there and going along with my, well potential plans, they were foiled because I got scanned out of some money on a rental and some bunch of other shit that happened. If you wanna avoid that, by the way, we have people in real estate that actually vet these deals and contracts and everything else for you. Um, so that's another reason to schedule that consult with our team. Um, but I didn't go through with those plans and instead of moving where I thought I might want to move, like, like the beach town there. Instead, Amanda and I, when she came, we started traveling around different beach towns on the Pacific Coast and other towns and cities, and we actually realized between the two of us, you know, I was like, you know, I like Mexico. Let's, let's do Mexico. And Amanda said, out of all the places that I've been, I really like Guadalajara the most. So we ended up staying there. We lived in Guadalajara for two years, and now we're living near the lake. Chapala. Right, right. Actually right behind us. We'll have to, to show them a little bit of the view drone footage. Um, yeah. Out, out here from our backyard. But, uh, we lived in Chapala for about two years together, and now we're living right by the Lake Gura for two years. Uh, sorry. We lived in Guadalajara for about two years now. We're living near. Near Lake Choppa. And that was basically because you said, you know what? I like Guadal heart. I'm like, all right, maybe it's all right. I haven't, I haven't seen it from that perspective, like from being with a partner and exploring something together. And it was kind of cool because I got to show Amanda the city that I'd already been living in for about a year. Uh, and it, it lets you see things from a different lens when you're kind of playing a tour guide. So. Yeah. So I think that's one way of doing it. Like maybe, you know, you pick the country, your spouse picks the city mm-hmm. In the country, give them some option as well, like in terms of having an opinion on this and, and, and being a part of the process as well. Right. Rather. Yeah. Because otherwise it just feels like you're, like, you're. Saying, okay, we're doing this and you're giving them al almost an ultimatum and that number, we're dumping it on them. Dumping it on them. Right. That never feels good in a relationship, ever. Yeah. Or you know, we've, we've had clients who do this. We're like, okay, we know for sure it's this country and my wife says it has to be this city to start, right? Mm-hmm. She's also,'cause it's more of a soft landing, for example, because it's more of a software. You came from Miami. So for, for Amanda Guadalajara was a much softer landing than, say, coming out here where we're kind of a little bit more in the sticks. Right? In the, in the boonies. Guadalajara. Small town life. Exactly. Small town life, hashtag small town life. But at least Guadalajara was a city that wasn't that dissimilar from Miami where you're from. Mm-hmm. And so we landed there. It wouldn't have been my first choice to stay in Guadalajara, but we compromised and it worked out. Yeah. And now we're starting to talk about other countries and things like that. And I'm sure we're gonna compromise again. But this is like a fluid ongoing conversation. This isn't like a one and done, uh, kind of thing, which I think is also really important for, for people to understand. It's fluid, right? It's a negotiation, it's a compromise, it's fluid. Um, I think we are effectively getting into relationship coaching a little bit here. It's kind of funny. It's kind of like the per, I mean, there's a personal side to this kind of a lifestyle. It's fat dating. We, we gotta find this, we gotta find the domain. Um, any other tips in terms of like. How to convince your spouse, um, to come along.'cause you know, if you're dating, like I said, it's easy. They're either with it or they're not. Yeah. You know, and you move on. Yeah. If you're married, I mean, and I hate to say this guys, this is, this is a little bit of a, of a, you know, perhaps darker side of this, but if your life, you know, you're, maybe, maybe you have kids, maybe you don't, obviously it's a lot harder with kids, but if you look at your life and your relationship and. You want something like more than anything else in the world, like you really wanna live in another country and your spouse is absolutely adamantly against it, and there's no way to convince them, number one, there's probably other values that are mismatched and you wanna maybe really consider taking a look at that relationship, perhaps going to therapy together, understanding what's going on, because it might not be that you're just totally incompatible and you have to throw everything away. It might just be that you need to. To have the help of a, of a coach or a therapist or somebody, kind of translate what's going on with one person to, to what's going on in the other person's mind and see if there maybe is a happy medium or perhaps your spouse is fearing something and you can do something to kind of, to kind of assu their, their, their fears or their, or their concerns, right? So that, that's an option. But if at the end of the day, even after therapy, after conversations, after understanding what you both want and maybe you do realize, hey, like we're just not aligned here. Then you have to look at it and, and make really tough decisions, tough decisions, and say, you know, am I, am I really serious? Am I really serious about this and my commitment to want to, to have a better life somewhere else? Am I, am I willing to sacrifice that for the sake of this relationship? Right? Because either you're gonna have something in the back of your head where you're always gonna want this thing and you're gonna feel like your spouse is keeping you from it, and that's no healthy way to be in a relationship. Or maybe you realize, you know what the relationship with your spouse. Uh, is, it is worth, at least for now, based on the cycle of life that they're at currently sacrificing and just saying no to moving overseas. And that's totally fine too. But you gotta really do some soul searching and some meditating and look and see, like what's more important. Are we aligned? What am I willing to sacrifice? What am I not willing to sacrifice? How do you think, you know, our international lifestyle, you know, living in another country, frequent travel, even within, even within Mexico, we're always on some adventure. Um, how do you think that's actually helped the relationship?'cause we were out to dinner last night at one of our favorite restaurants here in HoCo that everybody recommends, called LA ua, and we saw this couple. At another table and they didn't speak to each other the whole time. They were just on their phone. Just on their phones, texting. Yeah. Like those things. And I was like, that's so sad. They haven't said a word to each other this entire dinner. And I, I had mentioned to you, I was like, you know what? I think this international lifestyle is gonna help us avoid that. Avoid that. Well, I think it's really cool because you guys are always gonna have things to talk about. You're, you're in a different country. Maybe every month, if you're an actual digital nomad, every few weeks, you're really traveling around maybe every six months, maybe every year, maybe every few years. Right. But, but you're always expanding your horizons. You're learning a new language together. You're learning about a new culture together. I mean, to me, like it's, it's way I, I'm not just saying this to flatter you, but like it's, it's just way more fun and way more fulfilling to like be on all these adventures with you than just to be doing all this stuff by myself. Yeah. And in terms of what it does for the relationship, uh. As a, as a whole, like, yeah. I just feel like we're growing together, so, so couples that grow together, stay together. When you're growing, you're expanding your consciousness, you're, you're learning together and you are kind of in this little bubble in a whole other world. I think it makes you stick together even more. Yeah. Because you realize how important that other person is for you. You definitely also get very good at teamwork and problem solving. Yeah. We could talk about some, some of the pickles and predicaments that we've had predicaments on our international, uh, travels. Um, but I think that's important'cause maybe somebody's out there listening to this and they're like, oh my God, this is gonna ruin my relationship'cause this is so stressful in so many logistics and yeah, it can be very stressful. Yeah. Uh, especially if you're trying to do it by yourself. So entrepreneur expat.com/consult. Ultimately, you know, at the end of the day, and I just thought of one more fear, uh, that a spouse may have that and we can end it there. But at the end of the day, like I do think it actually brings people, uh, closer together because, or, or, you know, in the other instance, makes them realize that maybe they aren't aligned. Yeah. Like I said, which, which is great too because it's all about finding and it's, it's all about seeking the truth. The truth for you as a person who you are. What you actually want to create, whether that's with that person or, or not. Yeah. Final thing, right? Someone might be concerned over how much this move is going to cost, right? Mm-hmm. Because yes, there's lower cost of living in other countries, and we'll get to how it all balances out, but the initial, let's just get this shit done, right? It's like any other move, right? Yeah. When you move from one house to the next in a, in a city, it's expensive. When you move from one country to the other. While you're figuring all this stuff out, you're gonna be shelling out more money in the front, in the front end, because it's just, moves are expensive. It is what it is, you know? So what do you have to say to. Um, that part, and I know you probably got a lot to say'cause we just went through a move. Well, I mean, we, we just went through a move and we probably spent including even getting the new house fixed up and painted and everything else, like maybe a thousand dollars in the US that would be like 5,000 plus. Yeah. Like on average in the us if you're moving, especially from one side of the country to the other, you're spending thousands of dollars. Let's call it 5K. On average, including other things you might have to buy or stuff. The brakes and a moving truck and movers and logistics and everything else. It's, it's thousands of dollars. I, I'm not recommending you do this, but if you were to go through the whole immigration process on your own, let's say to Mexico, you would pro and, and you are okay getting rid of most of your stuff and buying it again here, where it's actually gonna be cheaper anyway because it doesn't make sense to haul all your shit from the US to Mexico, like in almost any case, right. Or anywhere you're probably right, you're probably gonna spend less than$5,000 for a person or, or even a couple to go and do the immigration process. That's if you do it on your own, you're gonna have to invest time. There's a lot of logistics. I'm not saying it's easy. You'd be better off hiring somebody like, uh, like working with us, hiring our team to do it for you. If you're in a position where you're time matters more than. An extra 20 or$30,000 because realistically that's at a bare minimum what it's gonna cost to have somebody do the entire relocation process and visa and immigration, everything else like tax strategy, everything. Yeah, tax strategy, all that. Like you're definitely sure it's all of it. You're definitely in the, yeah, in the, uh, the five figures there easily. If you're just doing it yourself or maybe you're coming here for a while to explore, you're not quite ready for residence or, or whatever. You just wanna move and, and try six months or a year in another country, and you can easily do that with a tourist visa or something like that. You'd be better off selling your stuff, buying new things, or renting a furnish apartment in Mexico and it's not nearly as much as a furnish apartment would be in the states. Yeah. So even if there's upfront costs. Yeah. It's actually not that much. It would still be less in most cases than just a regular move. Yeah. But in between two cities in the US Yeah. Because I've moved a lot in my life and it's thousands of dollars. Yeah. Even if you rent the truck, you know you're talking two 3000 between the rental and the gas and hotels along the way and. Then once the upfront costs of the mover are over, and we're experiencing that now, yeah, our cost of rent, cost of living went down by down 60, 70%. Yeah. So once you're past that initial, uh, part where you are shelling out more money, although it would be less money than the United States and private school's cheaper, everything's cheaper, and food's cheaper and healthcare's cheaper. You just have to have to think about investing for the long run instead of letting those upfront costs, either emotional or financial or whatever the, the type of cost it is preventing you from making a decision that's going to benefit you significantly health wise, emotionally and financially and relationally. Yeah. In the long run. Yeah. Anything else to add? 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