She's Earning Passive Income Globally Through Digital Courses - Here's Her Secret

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Ever wondered how to make money online, especially from the comfort of your home? In this video, we sit down with Amanda to discuss her successful business, Mindful Success Path. Discover how she leveraged digital products to create a thriving venture, demonstrating effective business ideas for anyone looking to earn money online.

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Today, we have a special guest on the show. You guys all know her, my beautiful wife, Amanda, and we're gonna be talking about something very interesting, which is how do you make money remotely? Specifically, what Amanda was looking for when she built her latest business, Mindful Success Path, which is already generating nearly, what? $300 a day on average we're hitting. Yeah, anywhere from a couple hundred dollars a day to some days we've had over $1,000 in digital course sales just coming in completely passively. I mean- Yeah yesterday we woke up to, you know, $300. That's amazing. I mean, it's- Yeah it's good to see numbers like that. And the key for the, the establishment of this business really, as you told me, was how do we have income coming in regardless of what time zone we're in? Uh, you wanted to, to just have, like, kind of a side source of income passively that sort of supplements what we're already doing at Entrepreneur Expat, just to have your own thing, and really because it was fun. But the main thing you told me was that you wanted income that was cross borders, cross time zones. You didn't have to work really actively for it. So how were some of those plans kind of formed in your mind? Because the audience has been asking us, you guys are asking us every single day in the comments and in our email, how do you make money remotely in a way that just doesn't depend on any one country or government or business or specific client or geographic location? So that's what, what I wanna dive into with you today. Yeah. So for context, um, when you and I had met a few years ago, I had already been in online business since 2010. Uh, I knew at the age of, uh, 22, 23, I stumbled into this idea of making money online, and I stumbled into the idea of entrepreneurship. I always knew that I was not gonna be in the rat race forever, that I didn't wanna be beholding to anybody else. And I had read this book all those years ago, I think it was called The Art of Non-Conformity. I think that's the book- It's a good one that jump-started everything, by Chris Guillebeau, and he said he'd been to all these different countries. And I had a fr- a good friend at the time who was like, "Read this book," because I was really struggling to find a job and stuff like that. It was shortly after 2008, so things were not good. 2008, '9, 10, '11, not great, uh, in the job market. Um, you know, kinda similar to what college graduates are going through right now- Mm-hmm where they're not able to find jobs. So I feel for the college graduates right now because I was there. I understand. So a friend of mine at the time was like, "Read this book," and this friend of mine was making money online, and he was traveling all the time and- He was doing the travel hacking thing with the credit card points, and I'm like, "How are you doing this? Like, I don't understand." And he handed me that book, and then that would s- be, like, the catalyst to me fi- trying to figure out for many, many years how to make money online. So for context, I knew at a very young age that for me to make money remotely and go anywhere in the world, it was gonna be two things. Number one, making money remotely, and number two, it had to be my own business- Right so that I would not be beholden to anybody else. Um, by the- 'Cause you started off, you know, freelancing- Yeah and having to meet certain schedules and deadlines and working with clients that way. Yeah. So I spent about seven to eight years as a freelance writer in the financial space specifically. Like, eight years into that, I kinda saw AI coming. I saw market corrections coming. Hi, Mia. I saw market corrections coming. Here come the fur babies. I mean, they're just in every video of ours- Yep at this point. Uh, I saw market corrections coming. You wanna sit on my lap? Are you looking for my lap? Is that what you're doing? You need help? Oh, there you go. Good girl. Good girl. Rocky tries to play with her, but she's not a dog. She's a cat. She's not a puppy. She's a cat. He has not learned that yet. He's not learned yet, yeah. Um, but they're okay now. They're, they're chilling. So I spent seven to eight years, uh, as a freelance writer. Eight years in, I was burning out. I was writing so much content. This was before AI, right? So I was writing so much content. When you had to do it by hand. I had to do it by hand, yeah. What a concept. I know. What a concept. Yeah. So, but my wrists and fingers were, like, literally starting to hurt from the amount of content that I was pumping out for clients every single week. I now joke about it, and I'm like, "I got trained to be a content machine." Like, that was my training, was when I... And s- SEO and search engine optimization, all these online marketing things. From there, I would transition 'cause I was like, "I can't keep doing this," and I would transition into training programs, uh, specifically teaching online business. So I would do that for another, like, seven to eight years. Um, but I had set that up in a way where I was still working my butt off. Like, it was better than it was before because now instead of having to physically write things and do things for clients and get paid on a per-project basis, then now what I was doing was, like, here's a training program. I think the first time I launched it, it was, like, $2,000, and it would teach people how to put offers together and how to sell them. Mm-hmm. And I made, you know, $10,000 cash- And that was Persuade to Profit, right? in two weeks. That was Persuade to Profit. The first version. So that was in 2017, and I was like, "Oh, my life has changed," because I'd just made more money, but I was technically working less. I had discovered scale Mm-hmm and I had discovered systems. Uh, so I would end up growing that into an almost seven-figure business by the end of 2021- Mm-hmm I think. Um, but I was still... By that point, I was still working really hard. I was burning myself into the ground. I was no closer to actually living in other countries. I'd actually built this kind of like a behemoth of a complicated business, uh, and cage. You kind of built your own prison- I built my own prison to a certain extent. Yeah. I built my own prison, which happens to a lot of businesses. They end up building their own prison. We hear about that really a lot too on our channel as well- Yeah because there's a few classes of people that we tend to attract and work with in different capacities, right? Mm-hmm. One is probably the easiest case, as you know, where somebody's got 3 to 5 million, up to even 10 or more. We've seen, uh, throughout the clients that we've worked with on helping them relocate and doing, like, the full-service relocation packages. Which if people wanna find more out about that and they do land in that high net worth individual category, obviously they can check out entrepreneurexpat.com/consult and learn about working with us. Um, but that's one category of people, the high net worth individuals. They want everything done fully white glove. They've got several million in the bank, and they're probably either retired or semi-retired, or they've, you know, got a business. If they wanna keep running a business- Yeah or they wanna keep working, they can do it remotely. That's one category of people. Another category of people are those that maybe have remote jobs, where they just need to discover what an online business is and obviously set it up from the beginning in the right way so that it actually is location independent. And then I think the third class of people, and we definitely attract a bunch of these as well, is the, the category of people that already has a business just like the one that you had, but it's, it's tied to either specific clients. It's tied to... It's tied to trading hours for dollars- For dollars essentially- Yeah which it sounds like kinda that, that prison that you built. You built yourself a little bit where- Yeah where you had to be, you know, on these projects. So I would end up trying to figure all that out, 'cause I also just didn't know what I didn't know. I don't come from an entrepreneurial family. I was investing my own money that I was making to learn a lot of these things. I would... I mean, I tried hiring people. I tried pr- I would... had to learn. I had to do, like, a crash course in systems, processes, technology, hiring people, management, and it sucked. And I think for most people it sucks. They call it, um, scaling hell. It's scaling hell. So I end up burning out really bad. Mm-hmm. Really, really bad. And about... And I'm like, "I need to rearrange everything." Like, I need to- Can, can you dive a little bit in depth into that be- so that the people... Well, first of all, so that the people that are in that space, where maybe they are making six figures, you know, low to mid six figures- Yeah or even more in a business. We've even had people that have nearly seven figure or, or solid seven figure businesses, but they're, you know, a contractor. They've got a plumbing company. They've got some type of remodeling, an HVAC company. It's kinda tied to a location. Uh, or even coaches that are still trading time for dollars, so if they wanted to go to Thailand or perhaps Eastern Europe or even South America, having to be kind of on a clock defeats the purpose- Yeah or most of the purpose of, you know, having a, a life in another country and, and building your kinda freedom plan. So could you speak to that group of people, mainly so that they don't feel like they're crazy, so that they understand- No, they're not crazy that actually it's a very common thing? Yeah. You're not crazy. It's really common. I think the issue is, like, what gets you to a six-figure business is not what, what's gonna get you to a seven-figure or beyond business. Mm-hmm. It's a completely different way of thinking and shifting. Just like people have to shift from thinking like employees to thinking like entrepreneurs- Yeah entrepreneurs have to shift from thinking like a self-employed person to thinking like a business owner. Mm. So it's a really common... I mean, unless you come from an entrepreneurial family or something like, I don't, I've, I don't know of anyone who really just skips over to business owner, uh, right away. It's almost like we have to go th- almost through, like, a rite of passage, 'cause we just don't know what we don't know. And on top of that, most people have been taught that making money has to be hard. So what do we do? We find ways to make it hard to make money. And for me, when I burned out really bad, um, you know, there was a lot of things all going on at the same time. My business was exploding. I started making six figures in a month. I was scheduled probably from, like, the moment I woke up to the mo- moment I went to bed, because there was so much responsibility on me. Um, I wasn't really supported by team the way that I needed to be supported by team, because when I hired them, I didn't know that it would turn into- what it turned into. Mm. Um, you know, at the same time my, I was having family, like health emergencies, and I was like, "Okay, so now there's the added pressure of the family health emergency, and I'm not even able to take a step back to go be there for the family member, um, that needs it, because if I'm not on all the time, this entire business falls apart." That must have been a lot of pressure. It was a lot of pressure, and it really sucked. And most people in business, they kind of end up there. I'm thinking of client, relocation clients that we have right now, that that's kinda where it's at. Because there's no, like management in place, and there's no systems and processes that are in place yet, then the owner's like, "Well, without me, this all falls apart." And it- Yeah kinda was an interesting catalyst, from my understanding anyway, for you, that when you knew that you wanted to have a location-independent lifestyle, to travel, to explore other countries, to live in other countries, even before we met- Yeah you were looking to do that. It sounds like that was a big catalyst for you to kinda get your stuff together, so to speak, with your business, to really make it run like a, quote, "actual business." Yeah, I didn't even know what that meant or what that was. Mm-hmm. 'Cause again, I had no context. And most people don't have context. Most of us start from nothing. I know a lot of people think that people who are successful in business, someone gave them a leg up, someone gave them money, they inherited money from fa- That is not the case for most people. Most people start from literally zero and having no idea what they're doing. Yeah. And having to learn the hard way. And having to learn things the hard way. Um, so it was an- interesting catalyst because I was like, "I can't keep doing this." I mean, I literally got to a point where the burnout was so bad that I, I... It's almost like I stopped functioning, and I started making bad decisions. And now I know, um, you know, from having done therapy, the stuff that we've done here in Mexico, that I basically was running on a very dysregulated nervous system under constant stress for a long time, and then it im- me- it eventually came to a head. Um, a- but when it came to a head, then I was like, "Okay, I have to do something different." Mm. How did that sort of discovery, 'cause that was sort of your coming to Jesus moment, right? Yeah. How, how did that happen? I mean, walk us through, like the actual just play-by-play, what was going on in the external world and what was going on in your internal world as a response to that, and how things just sort of like popped and you were like, "Okay." The crazy part is that it's almost like at least three months feel like a complete blur where I just felt like kind of like a walking zombie. Um, like I just started making ba- I started sabotaging. Uh, I started making bad decisions. Um, and I now understand, again, because of all the work that I've done through therapy, experts in neuroscience, now I'm trained in this stuff, which we'll get to that, um, in terms of the new business. Now I understand basically what was going on, was it is almost like your, your brain kind of goes offline. Mm. When you're dysregulated, it's, it's like you, you start... I went into, like, paralyzation. I went into freeze mode. Yeah. So I, so I was constantly in fight or flight for many years because I had built a cage for myself where I was under a lot of pressure, and then eventually it came to a head and I went into full-on freeze and paralysis. Why do you think that was? Like, why, why did it... why did you just all of a sudden freeze? I mean, it sounds like you j- your, your nervous system, 'cause you talk about this a lot- Yeah on Mindful Success Path- Yeah where you work with mostly women, but there's some men as well that follow you on that channel. Uh, you talk a lot about nervous system regulation. You talk a lot about actually embodying who you need to be- Yeah in order to have the things that you want. So it sounds like, and, and you can talk a little bit about that channel, too, and what made you start it, um, but it sounds like your nervous system was just kind of all over the place, and you- Yeah weren't ready for all the success that was coming your way. Yeah. I wasn't ready, um, for all the success that was coming in. I didn't know how to hold it. I didn't know how to maintain it. And then, um, I had a bunch of, like, unconscious fears and beliefs running the show, like I had to earn making money. Mm. Making money had to be hard, or else it doesn't count. Just all the same typical stories that most people have, and that's why making money's hard for them. Yeah. And when I started learning through mentorship about the role of the nervous system and the brain, then I really started to work to... Well, first of all, I had this really shocking realization that every business I had built up until that point... Like, on the one hand, the, the desires were wholesome, right? Like, I wanted financial freedom. I wanted to make my own money. I wanted to be able to do it online so I could go anywhere in the world. But when I looked at my life, I was like, "Wait a minute. You've built a cage for yourself. This came at the sacrifice of everything else, and you still haven't moved to another country." Mm. "What is going on here? Uh, what is happening?" Um, and then I would end up doing really deep work on my own neurosys- uh, nervous system, um, my own, uh, beliefs, my own mindset, all those kinds of things, uh, to kind of start rebuilding my life, um, from a different place. And four months later, I met you. Which is a whole other conversation. A whole other story. Yeah. Maybe, maybe at some point we'll sh- we'll share a little bit in depth about that, but if people follow you on Mindful Success Path, they can hear- Yeah, they can hear the story there a little bit more about- Yeah the story there. Yeah. Um, so it was kind of like, you know, the... You talk a lot about the heroine's journey as well, right? Yeah. It was that journey of, like, really finding yourself and understanding what you actually want. understanding what I wanted and realizing that the vehicle I had built, um, or created was created based on a lot of false beliefs about money and myself. And that's why even though I had built it with the intention of having time and location flexibility, that's not what actually happened. So then what happened after that, after that journey of self-discovery? Well, shortly after that I end up meeting you. Um, that's a whole other story. You can go to my YouTube channel to learn more about that. Then I would basically spend the next three years kind of rebooting. Mm. Uh, and also my life changed in very drastic ways. So we got married, uh, moved to Mexico, so check, that dream came true- Yeah of going to other countries. Um, and then we started Entrepreneur Expat that perhaps I was, like, the seed of inspiration for Entrepreneur Expat, but you're really- You're, you're my muse. Yeah. But, uh, you're really the brains behind it. So I would pretty much take a break for, like, three-ish years from business. I know it doesn't look like it, uh, based on the fact that we have this YouTube channel, and I still had some of my business consulting going on, but I was, like, really winding it down. We made it a lot more leveraged. Even the consulting we were doing together- Yeah was, like, in a group format, and it was leveraged, and I think I ran 80% of it, and you just kinda, like, showed up every once in a while and said hi to everybody. Yeah, I really needed a break. Yeah. Yeah, I was really in a stage where I needed a break because I'd been go, go, go, go, go for so long, which is something we hear a lot from our relocation clients as well. Mm. That part of the reason why they wanna relocate is 'cause they're tired of the go, go, go, go, go. Uh, so was I. Yeah. So I, I ended up being able to rest and take a break, and then wind that business down with your help. Um, and then I was just rebooting and taking care of myself and enjoying being in Mexico and, uh, taking a bunch of, like, meditation classes and holistic healing classes and just kind of, uh, yeah, just rebooting. You know? And, and, um, also just... I... Sometimes it felt like getting my bearings because there was so much change going on all at the same time, but really I realize it was kinda like a life reset. And how did you get kind of inspired for Mindful Success Path in the first place? And I'd love, I'd love it if you would go into a little bit of how it was different than all the other businesses that you've had- Yeah in the past, because you didn't wanna build the same thing over and over again and- No and dig yourself back into that hole, right? No, no, no, no, no. So, um, Entrepreneur Expat starts doing well. You kind of, you know, handle everything. I take a step back from business. I knew eventually I would end up coming back around to making money online. I'm not very good at sitting around doing nothing. No, you're not. I'm not. I've al- I'm always up to something. I've always got a project. I've always got an interest. I've always got something. So I knew eventually I would come back around to it when I was ready. Um, and in this case, I really wanted to start talking to women about, women specifically about this idea, this heroine's journey like you mentioned, how we can make money from a more feminine place. Uh, relationships, because that started coming up all the time here in Mexico. Remember I would go to the nail salon- Mm-hmm in Guadalajara, and I would end up coaching all these women on their dating escapades. And like, "Mm, don't listen to that man. Mm, maybe, yeah, okay, that one's a good one. This one's not so good." Yeah. "And don't say that. Don't do..." You know what I mean? And, and you saw it. Mm-hmm. Right? And then everybody kept asking me how I got Justin. That was the other thing. Uh, 'cause I got a good one. That would happen. So I was like, there's something here about, like, women's personal development. Again, I was, like, on my break mode. I spent a lot of time just kinda, like, percolating with it. Also probably spent some time being resistant talking about these things, uh, publicly, because I was still going through so much change- Mm um, that I just didn't feel ready to talk about these things. And then eventually, um, you were like, "Hey, you should probably start talking about this on YouTube." So I was like, "Okay." I mean, I learned a lot about YouTube through Entrepreneur Expat and observing you, so I started dabbling in it, you know, on the side. I didn't go hard. I didn't try and make it work. I was just... It was just a creative project. And then, but, but- You always set it up from the beginning, right? I set it up from the beginning to be able to make money, just like we did with Entrepreneur Expat, because, I mean, if you're gonna take all the ingredients out anyway, you might as well cook- Yeah as we say. Um, so from the beginning I set it up, like, well, if it starts making money, then it's set up to make money, and then I'll avoid a lot of problems and headaches later. Um, and then, um, I started to realize that there was a money-making opportunity there. Well, I think you realized it first, and then you really started to encourage me. Um, and then I had, like, a video take off about a year ago, and then suddenly all these people showed up, and then I was like, okay, I gotta figure out what to do with this, because now it's, it's growing. It's turning into a community. There's something here. Yeah. But to your point, I was not gonna do business or making money the way that I was doing it before. And then now on top of that, because I was in the Entrepreneur Expat lifestyle- as we call it, I was like, I need something... Like you said in the beginning, I need something that's gonna make money 24/7, whether I'm working or not. Doesn't matter the time zone, doesn't matter the country. Um, and in addition to that, I also desire to build something that, um, can go across different countries. Because up until that point, most of my businesses were just, you know, catering to Americans and Canadians. Some Europeans- Mm right? But Americans, Canadians, and some Europeans. I wanted something that could really go global. Yeah. So how has that actually happened? Because we've had, just in Mindful Success Path over the last couple months here, what are we at, like 35 countries so far? Uh, no- That's quite a while we're at over- we're at, like, 45-plus countries that we have customers from- Wow uh, on Mindful Success Path, and this is just like a year later, basically. Um, and that was one of my desires because again, right, being in the o- I've learned from you, right? I'm like, "I want optionality." "I want time freedom, I want location freedom, uh, and I don't want to rely on just one country." Hm. So when I went to go, um, build this new business, right, or this new career for myself, uh, fortunately I'm married to you, so you could build a lot of the systems and things like that, and we could talk about that. It has its perks. It has its perks- uh, being married to a systems operations guy. Um, but a lot of it was just from observing you as well, where I was like, "Number one, I'm not building a burnout cage like I did before, 'cause now I know better. Um, and number two, I want built-in optionality, and number three, I wanna wake up to money." Yeah. And all of those things are happening. So what are you seeing on a day-to-day basis, especially as, as to how it differs from before? Like, when you're waking up and you're, you're looking at your inbox. Well, yeah, yesterday I woke up to 300 bu- dollars, right? I'm like, "That's great," right? How does that happen? I mean, so for a lot of people watching, you know, they've only ever really worked for money or especially worked for somebody else- Mm-hmm for money and traded time for dollars. You know, maybe they've done some freelancing or some solo work. Um, what's the difference, and how does what you're doing actually work? Like, what are the mechanics of it? Yeah. Well, you're more of a mechanics guy, so you can reel- Yeah reel me in if you have to- Sure 'cause I, I tend to go all over the place. Um, so the way that it works is I created a bunch of digital courses and programs. Um, a lot of them were about relationships and polarity in relationships and what creates attraction, 'cause I noticed there was a need in the marketplace for that. Um, and I'd been studying it for a long time on the side of everything else I was doing. Uh, people were like, "How did you learn all this information?" And I'm like, "I'm a nerd. I'm constantly researching or reading things that interest me, uh, life experience, and I've been coaching people for 15 years." At some point you just start noticing all the patterns and all the issues and where the gaps are. Hm. So I created, uh, courses and programs to address a lot of those gaps. At first, it was, like, the psychology of dating, you know, how to talk to men, you know, stuff like that, that people are actually searching for and googling for. I knew how to find that information because of what, uh, I had seen you do with Entrepreneur Expat- Mm-hmm you know, with all the data, all the research, things like that. So I create videos on these topics that are highly searchable. People find the videos, and then they just buy digital courses and programs from- Slow down a little bit. Okay, so- Yeah when you say... I mean, obviously I know what- what's going on because I've been building a lot of this in both of these businesses. Uh, but even just something like, "I create videos on terms that are highly searchable," like, there's a lot to unpack there. Yeah. Can you unpack that, like, for the average person who's watching this- Yeah and doesn't understand SEO, doesn't understand, you know, AdSense or Google or YouTube search engine optimization- Yeah or the algorithm or anything like that. Can you just unpack that part a little bit? Yeah. So basically, in order to have leads and sales for a business, the easiest thing you can do is create content that offers solutions to problems that people are already searching for. Mm-hmm. And there's lots of software and apps to help you figure out what that is. I oftentimes say, like, this is a very different world than it was 15 years ago. And we have a course on this, by the way. Yeah. If you guys are interested in learning more about specifically how we've done that, not just for one business, because one business can be a fluke, and not just two businesses, including Amanda's that's now close to making four figures a day in passive income, but also for several clients as well that have taken that exact system and worked with us one-on-one. We've packaged that as part of our Freedom Bundle. It's on sale now for a little under $1,000. You can find it below this video or at entrepreneurexpat.com/bundle, and we'll show you exactly how to do all that keyword research and how all those mechanics work in depth, as well as some of the specific tools and resources that you need to actually be able to replicate this for yourself. Yeah, we also go into how to actually create offers, sales, marketing. Uh, basically we put everything about business and relocation into one program for easy purchase, and then you've got everything that you need, uh, right there. So yeah, it started with YouTube, which I learned through Entrepreneur Expat. I saw how it changed our lives- entrepreneur expat, and I'm like, "Well, let me see if I can do it again- Mm-hmm uh, with this other thing over here," and I did it again. Uh, and not only did I do it again, I really did it again. So we recently, on that channel, we recently had a video with, like, almost 40,000 views, um, on that video, and, um, it's made thousands of dollars in course sales. Another few hundred dollars in Google AdSense. But basically, what you wanna do is, if you're gonna create a business, number one, find a need in the marketplace. Find a- Instead of trying to create one. That's what- Instead of trying- a lot of people do to create one. Find a problem that already exists that you have the solution for. And I think a lot of people get stuck because they're like, "Oh, but I have no way of solving this problem. I'm not certified," or, "I didn't go to school for this." None of it matters. If you have life experience, and you're good at what you do, and you actually solve a problem for people, people will buy it. Mm. They will buy it, and I can tell you that from being in entrepreneurship for 15 years. So a lot of people will get hung up there, that they feel like they don't know enough or like they don't have solutions to a problem. But we've told people, like, even in your work experience, like let's say you have more of a traditional career, there are skills that you learned there that could probably solve a lot of problems for clients, and you can run the whole thing online. What, what's the pathway, though, for somebody that maybe has never been an entrepreneur to actually take the skills like that? I mean, maybe following your model, whether it's in a more active way, like I'm doing with Entrepreneur Expat, or a more passive way, like you're doing with Mindful Success Path. What's kind of the quick step-by-step? And obviously, we go in, into depth more in this- Yeah in the Freedom Bundle- Yeah, the Freedom Bundle- and the courses there's a specific, uh- What's the very high level? course. High level is, what are skills that I have that solve problems for people? Are those people aware that they have that problem? Are they looking for the solution? How do I create a solution? And the solution, very high level, could be as simple as I'm just gonna consult with you one-on-one, if you're doing more of the active income. Or it could be I'm gonna create digital courses and programs where you create the thing once, and it makes money over and over and over again, which is what I wanted to do. Or some hybrid. Yeah, or some hybrid, but which is... Uh, I wanted to do the create it once, make money over and over and over again, uh, with this particular, particular business. Cool. And what are some of the systems that power that in the back end? Like, what does some of that... Again, just, just the high level mechanics, but what does that look like? Maybe you can answer that better than I can. Yeah. Well, I mean, somebody will opt in to a page, for example. Well, opt in means they signed up for something for free. Yeah. Right? In our case, we actually have it set up a little bit differently, so if you check out some of the courses, if you're interested in, in some of the Mindful Success Path courses, of course go check that out. But if you buy, quote-unquote, one of the free courses, it says $0. You put your, your email and your name and your phone number, and you'll get it for free. But somewhere along that process, we also have it set up so that there's a little upsell. So you can get the, for example, your Enhance Your Feminine Energy Guide, I think it's called- For free for free. And then there's a Feminine Magnetism Mastery, which talks about the psychology of dating and all the mistakes that women make in dating, and they can just add it to their cart. And 10 or 15% of people, just like that, will take us up on that. Will take us up. And add it. And then once, um, they sign up for a free thing or purchase a product, then there's a whole series of emails and text messages moving people over to the next step. So for example, yesterday, someone- or, um, and we track all these things, so I can say the numbers. Um, so three days ago, someone opts in for our free Enhance Your Feminine Energy Guide. Two days later, they spend $200 on the online shop, because now they got the free thing. The free thing helps them solve a particular problem, and then I say, "Hey, here are additional resources to help you solve the next problem." And a lot of people online will just kind of make making money online a lot harder than it has to be. Yeah. I've seen that a lot, where they say, "Oh, online courses don't work anymore." It's a lie. "You have to work really hard for your money." No. You, you, you c- you have to do one-on-one coaching now. Also a lie. Or the coaching industry, the entire coaching industry is dead- A lie and it's not making money. I think people just aren't good at what they do and don't know what they're doing. Or they don't like money. Or they don't like money- I've heard that so they find ways to make it hard, yeah. Yeah. So it doesn't have to be hard. No, it doesn't have to be hard, and I, I told you the other day, I've actually spent more time with this particular business working on my mindset and the inside stories I have about money than, like, actually physically working. So how does this allow you to achieve that goal that you wanted, which is location and time independence? Well- Because it's way different than your last businesses. Yeah. You've had, you've had a sales training business. You've been a freelancer writing for finance companies. Uh, you've run marketing masterminds. We've done some of that together. This is, like, 360... I mean, well, o- one, 180, right? 180. Like, it's- Yeah totally different in the sense that you're not having to grind anymore at all. Well, I think part of what I learned from you, um, and a couple of other mentors, but you're the one who actually helped me execute on this, was if, uh, number one, the business needs to be separate from me. I think that in entrepreneurship, and I know you've had this happen to you, too, when people start businesses, they're like, they're, like, too enmeshed in the business. They see themselves as the business. They see themselves as the business. Yeah. And when I started this, I'm like, "No way am I doing that," because that gets really messy. This- Emotionally, too emotionally, yeah. Not, not just, not just from a business standpoint, but also emotionally, you're kind of too attached to it. It's like your baby. You're too attached to whether it's succeeding or failing or what did it do today, and- Yeah in order to be really good at making business decisions, you have to be detached from all of those emotions. So I, the way that I saw it, which you helped me execute on this, 'cause I would not have been able to do this without you- And this is also something that we do for our business consulting clients is, like, it's almost like the engine of a car. Like, I just built an engine, and then I give it some gas when I make a video on YouTube, and then that one video on YouTube, because of the nature of YouTube, make one video, it sells stuff for you for years- Mm-hmm unlike any other platform in existence. Then that's all I gotta do. Like, I think I do a video a week. I show up on one live stream a week, which to me is super fun. I feel like I'm chatting with girlfriends. Yeah, I mean, you did this business just as, as an extension of what you wanted to do anyway, like an extension- Yeah of your hobby. I did this for fun because I had time, but again, if I was gonna take all the ingredients out anyway, I was gonna cook. Mm-hmm. And we tell people all the time, YouTube is not a hobby. YouTube is not a hobby. It's just not. It's way- It's too much work it's too much work for it to be a hobby. Right? Right? Um, so I'm gonna make money off of this. Like, if I'm gonna do this, I'm eventually gonna make money, um, off of this, or I'm gonna set it up to, to do so. So it's different insofar as, like, the business is not so contingent on me- Mm-hmm which is huge. On you actively working. And, or me actively working. Yeah. That is the biggest thing. And even if you stopped making a weekly video right now or going live- It would still make money. Yeah. Yeah. It would still make money. A lot of the things that I hear, and I experience this myself as well, because I never used to be in front of the scenes, I would always be the guy behind the scenes of six and seven-figure launches, building the funnels, building the tech, uh, figuring out the CRMs and the email marketing and the deliverability and all these different pieces. I was kind of afraid to get on camera. Yeah. And I was kind of afraid to, to sort of be the, the star of the show. What would you say to someone that perhaps is, like, maybe... Like I was, or still am, really. Like, I'm an introvert. I mean, somebody that's an introvert that says, "I'm not, you know, the, a good salesperson. I'm not the one who's supposed to be in front of the scenes." Like, what would you tell those people? Because that's a very common thing we hear all the time. I have a very unpopular opinion. Get over it, 'cause without marketing, you have nothing. Mm-hmm. That's it. It's that simple. Yeah. If you wanna help people and you wanna be better than all of these, uh, like, you call them Chads- Yeah that are out there, you know- Well, maybe you can- talking about a b- ba- basically talking about, you know, all these things that they're good at and that they can do and, and bring, building themselves up, but they don't actually have substance. Maybe you can answer that question better than I can, 'cause I was a theater kid, so I was never afraid of being out there or being on camera. But you're an introvert, too, though. You don't necessarily like going to parties and being around a lot of people. You're still- But that's why this works so well, 'cause I don't- Yeah have to go anywhere. I just film a video in my house, and it makes money. Exactly. I mean, that's a, that's a good point. And for me, I think, to Amanda's point, it was just about kinda getting over myself and realizing nobody actually cares at the end of the day- uh, how good your makeup is, what you look like, what your hair looks like, what you're wearing And the people who do care about those things are not your clients. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, they're just, we're focused on the wrong stuff. I, I knew that many, many years ago. Yeah, 'cause you started out in media and- Yeah in news and everything else. Yeah. So any other advice you'd like to give our audience that's, that's kind of either on the fence or s- or not really sure if they can really make this happen for themselves- Yeah or that they, they can really do it, but they know that they need to in order to become an entrepreneur expat, and in order to take that next leap, that next step forward to having a location-independent life? Two things. Number one, you have to invest money in yourself and in your business. Um, a lot of people try to piecemeal and do everything for free. The, the reason why... Part of the reason why I was able to make this work prior to meeting you was because I had 15 years of experience under my belt of not just doing things, I'm gonna get to that, doing things in trial and error, but actually investing into learning high-value skillsets- Hmm like marketing and sales. Systems I wasn't so good at, that you helped me with a lot. Um, but I spent years trying to master the craft of high-level skills, like marketing and sales, and you gotta put down money to learn how to do those things. Yeah. The, the second thing I would learn how to do is that some people- Mm-hmm mistakenly assume that putting down money is enough, and then it just magically works. No, that's- No not how business works. Just because you buy a course- No or you do something, just because you buy our Freedom Bundle doesn't mean that all of a sudden a bunch of money- You magically is gonna land- Yeah in your bank account. You actually have- Yeah to apply what it is that you are learning. So that would be number two. And number three, I would say don't give up. Mm-hmm. Don't give up, because eventually you will get to what you want. Yeah. There is really no failure in life. There's only giving up. Yeah. That's the only way you possibly could fail. And when it comes to business and making money, people give up way too easily. They're like, "Oh, I've been on YouTube for two weeks. I make no money. I'm giving up." And I'm like, "Oh, you're gonna really struggle." There's a lot of delayed gratifi- I mean, can it happen really quickly? Yes. With the right mentorship and the right guidance and investing- Mm-hmm it can happen a lot faster than you trying to figure it out on your own. We've had clients who've done the courses in the Freedom Bundle, and in three months they're making $20,000 a month- Oh selling coaching programs off of these. O- obviously, that's not typical. No, no. Most people are gonna buy something and then never do anything with it. Yeah. That's the reality. But what I was gonna say- Yeah right, is that they did every single thing that we told them to do, and in three months they were making $20,000 a month, and they had over 10,000 YouTube subscribers. They changed their whole lives. They're making more money than they've ever made, um, ever, in any job they ever had, and now it's totally online. They have a global audience. They can go anywhere in the world. We're gonna be interviewing- them, um- For the channel, yeah for the channel, 'cause we're still working with them. But the... What I was gonna say is they didn't just invest money, they invested money and they did every single thing that we told them to do, and then boom. And they didn't give up when- Yeah it looked like it was gonna get hard. And it's looked like that for us several times- Yeah in several different ventures that we've done. But, um, you don't know when the tides are actually gonna change and when things are gonna start to work in your favor. I agree 100%. It's about actually having that, that patience and that belief in yourself, that unwavering belief in yourself that eventually, no matter what, things are going to work out. You just have to keep putting in the effort, and trying, and listening to people that have already walked this path before. And, and that applies to anything. That applies to business, that applies to moving to another country, that applies to relationships. Like, people just need to believe in themselves and what it is that they actually want, and not give up on that. Most people... And I know this, you know this. We've been in entrepreneurship 15 years. Most people just give up too damn easily. And I think that's a great place to leave it- Yeah is believe in yourself, don't give up. And when you actually take the first step, which might be investing in the Freedom Bundle, you can find that at entrepreneurexpat.com/bundle, and you can learn more about all the things that we did. But maybe it's, you know, s- after that you start your YouTube channel. You build the systems, you build the funnel, you build the email marketing sequences. And in three to six months, you could actually have a machine that's starting to bring money in, whether you're actually working that day or you're not. Yeah. Because the systems work for you. You, you build them once, you set them up once, and they continue to be your best sales and marketing employee. Forever. Forever, yeah- Forever without you having to, to keep doing anything. Forever. And I think that was the biggest shift, because I was the marketing and sales department in my previous businesses, and now I'm not. Now the robots Yeah and the algorithms are my marketing, um, and sales department. And I'll leave it at this. You have to invest... 'Cause you brought up a good point. You got to invest money to learn the skills, and you have to invest time to apply the skills. There's no free lunch. Of course. It doesn't exist. Well, invest the money, but also invest the time, and put in the effort, and, and believe in yourself. You can really make anything happen. I mean, I, I didn't... It w- it wasn't in my wildest dreams 10 years ago that we would be living the life that we're living today. Have money passively coming in from both businesses, be able to travel the world not just, you know, as, as backpackers, but, like, really comfortably and well, and live the lifestyle that we wanna live, so- Yeah I'm eternally grateful, you know, to the universe. I'm eternally grateful to this business, I mean, both of these businesses, to you. Because as you've learned a lot from me, I've learned a lot from you as well. And, uh, just for... I'm grateful for both of us believing in ourselves and saying, "You know what? Let's make it happen no matter what." Yeah. And of course, thank you to these little critters as well. Rocky just went, uh, up on the couch here to, to chew his little chew toy, but looks like he's got the zoomies, so we're gonna take him out, get his energy out. Um, and thanks again for being the best part of this community. We'll see you again very, very soon.