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Exposed: The Truth Behind Ise Kream's Betrayal

Elliott Carterr Season 2 Episode 6

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The streets have rules, and betrayal has consequences. In this explosive conversation, P-Live Quasar brings unflinching honesty to LFTG Radio, breaking down what happens when loyalty crumbles under pressure.

P-Live doesn't hold back as he addresses Sha King (formerly known as "Sloppy Poppy") and his recent podcast comments, exposing his background and questioning his credibility. The heart of the discussion centers on serious allegations against Ise Kream, whom P-Live accuses of cooperating with federal authorities in several cases, most notably against Tony Clanton. With remarkable detail, he explains how federal cooperation works, the meaning behind sealed documents, and why "proffer agreements" represent a point of no return for street credibility.

The conversation takes darker turns as P-Live discusses disturbing allegations of sexual misconduct against Ise Kream and family members, painting a picture of generational dysfunction. Through personal anecdotes spanning decades, he illustrates the history between himself and these individuals, providing context for current tensions and explaining why certain behaviors can never be forgiven in street culture.

What makes this episode particularly compelling is P-Live's reflection on how gang culture has evolved. "In my era when we first started, you was corny if you was in a gang," he notes, contrasting with today where "you looked at corny if you ain't in a gang." This observation opens a window into shifting power dynamics and protection mechanisms in urban communities.

Listen as P-Live delivers harsh truths about loyalty, consequences, and standing on principle regardless of outcome. Whether you're familiar with street politics or observing from a distance, this raw conversation offers rare insight into a code that still governs many urban spaces across America.

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Speaker 1:

What's the words? Your boy Elliot Carter, here, lftg Radio. We on the line with my boy, p-live. Good morning, godspeed to everybody. P-live, introduce yourself.

Speaker 2:

Yo, what up, what up. You know who it is. P-live Quasar the Sovereign, the God now born, finest the General, we, the niggas who planted the flag on the moon for the new my era, my generation. Let's get it on the moon for the new my era, my generation.

Speaker 1:

Let's get it, let's get it, let's get it. All right, so let's get into this. Sha King, nigga man.

Speaker 2:

Yo, this shit's all loud. He ain't a nigga, even a dress. First, let me just say this Growing up, his name in the hood was Sloppy Poppy. That's tell you everything you need to know. He was a dirty disgusting, always had stains on him, fat. He was a cross between a walrus, a pig and sinbad. You know what I mean. He had freckles. He sucked his thumb so his teeth was way out. You know niggas who suck their tongue thumb breath be smelling crazy. Nigga breath smell like a fucking belly button airing in a ring in the back of an airing pack. You know what I mean. He had freckles on his face, fat, disgusting redhead nigga.

Speaker 2:

In the hood he was an anomaly. No bitches ever checked for this nigga in his life, ever. He was a fucking nobody. His mom's niggas had love for his mom. Rest in peace to Gracie, my people, my cousins and father in brooklyn and I'm new gracie she would stand up. She got a few dollars, but he was a disgusting nigga, never done nothing. He's a thief, stole from his mans, put bitches to sleep, choked them to sleep, touched on them and then robbed them for their wallets. I don't know who put him up to to ever get on his podcast. Nobody, nobody listens to this shit. He be having two viewers, so maybe he said, well, let me talk about P-Live. But besides all of that, the nigga is a rat.

Speaker 2:

When I did my last bid, I was in the Supreme Court 2015. He was going to court too. I was in court when they offered the nigga. Either he took the three and a half to seven or he was getting his next court date. I went up top. I don't know whatever happened. I thought he was up top. I come back. I find the nigga never left.

Speaker 2:

Everybody in the hood was talking about he was a rat, you know saying it around him. And all that because he choked this bitch unconscious, left her for dead in the crib because he's a tender dick nigga. He's the first of all. His bitch was like a walrus Fat bitch. You know he's the type of nigga he need a place to stay. He's a bum. He never got no money. He do all jobs. He paint for shitty or drive you somewhere. I'm talking about. I'm not even assassinating this cow. Everybody know that his name was sloppy poppy. I don't know he changed his name to Shaq King. I don't even think he God body because I think he still eats swine and all that.

Speaker 2:

But the point is, this is the type of nigga that got the audacity to be talking about me. This is what social media do. It's like you could be in your living room and it'd be a sucker nigga going at real niggas that you know. If you ever cross my path, you would never have that energy Never.

Speaker 2:

He got up on his podcast and told her I didn't even listen to the whole thing. I listened to about five minutes of it, all lies. You know what I mean. So I said yo, I don't know. There's other niggas that don't like me in the hood. I spanked they bitch, took they bitch. He was saying shit that he said. So you know, I guess I don't know who put him up to it, but when I see him I might stomp his fucking ears together for it. So you know that's what's going to happen. But other than that, he ain't even nobody to address.

Speaker 2:

This is the type of nigga he is. He's a fucking. He's a. You see the post I put up where my homegirl texted me and I heard about that when she was asleep. He was standing over her trying to touch her. This is the type of nigga he is. He don't get no pussy. Look at him. His name is Sloppy Poppy. This type of nigga he is. He's a homo. His man Cream's a tomo and together they bromos. You know what I mean. That's how I look at it.

Speaker 1:

Did you hear the podcast with him and Cream?

Speaker 2:

I didn't hear it. Did they do it yet?

Speaker 1:

I didn't hear it. Did they do it yet I didn't hear it. He keeps saying he going to drop it or he was going to drop it. I keep asking him when it's going to drop. He told me today, like four days ago, and I still didn't see it yet.

Speaker 2:

Nah nah, but this is the thing Forget even. We know Kareem is a rat, but you know they try to help him out with that. He's a convicted child molester and he's on a sex registry. Who would advocate for a nigga and do interviews and even be behind a nigga like that? If my man, I don't give a fuck. If it was my brother, my man, Once I find out you did that, we ain't got nothing to talk about. It ain't no beef. I grew up with you. I might still have love for you, but it's from a distance because you got issues that need to be addressed. Anybody that touches a kid, do anything like that. They can't be redeemed. That's why, on the Quran and the Bible, that was the only crime that was punishable by death. Because they know they can't be redeemed. From that, you got them tendencies in you and Queen got two or three cases like that, multiple sex offender cases.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact.

Speaker 2:

This is what I'm saying you know what I mean. So you already know what type of dude he is.

Speaker 1:

And it's not only Cream, it's his brother too All of them.

Speaker 2:

He got three or four brothers that got a rape old case. You know what I mean. He got, I don, well-closed family members who went to jail for rape. His uncles, all on his mother's side, went to jail for rape.

Speaker 1:

So this is something that run in a family. I know Jotty got a case that has like three underage children in it.

Speaker 2:

It was Jotty, the other nigga, b-like or whatever the fuck his name is, and a couple more brothers. You know what I mean All of them niggas. So this is what I'm saying. This is a family of sexual molestation and sexual deviancy. You know what I mean, and I believe that Cream probably got touched along the way when he was young. You know what I mean Because he got a big family. His brother rest in peace to Bobo. When we was young.

Speaker 2:

That was one of my best friends. He's the loudest one out of all of them. He's the craziest one out of all of them too, but he's the loudest one and he had. We grew up. We grew up Paul, because when he went up north he was doing sexual deviant shit that I heard about and I couldn't get with. You know, I don't even want to assassinate his character because he ain't here and I had love for him, but he was a sexual deviant like the rest of them. That's the absolute fact. Ain't nothing I'm saying, cap, and if I say something I'm not sure about, I'm going to say it's speculative, but the shit I know for a fact.

Speaker 2:

My little cousin walked in on Bobo fucking a white dude in a laundromat in green and they never spoke again. You know he was cool, like oh he Willie the white boy that do the overnight laundry pour the shit. He wanted to get his shit. Bobo was talking. You know what I mean. So that was it. You know what I mean. We don't condone that type of behavior. Nobody in my sight would do. You know what I mean, and that's just that. But what happened is these dick riding niggas, and you know, with the gang shit they cover up, they let anything go Well, and if a nigga would have did this type of shit in the early 90s, before everybody had to group up, niggas would have been banished from the hood. You can't come to the hood and do that and be a rat too. Come on, it's disgusting man.

Speaker 1:

These niggas is disgusting. Just took the stand in 2023. This is what I'm saying in 2023.

Speaker 2:

This is what I'm saying. My son sent me his paperwork so he did tell whoever was trying to put a hit on him. He told that in open court that the nigga was trying to kill him. You know, this is all documented. You can see that. But these niggas ain't stand up.

Speaker 1:

They pick and choose. They pick and choose.

Speaker 2:

And they run in packs, but individual, they never do shit. They never put no, they never do lone wolf shit Lay on in that nigga. When I, I lay in the grass for a day and a half for a nigga B when it was on like that, I didn't run with tanks. First of all, the old saying goes you do it only way you can do, keep a secret. If you do it the only way you can do it, keep a secret. If you do something with three people, the only way you keep a secret is two of them is dead. You know that's the old adage. They always say these niggas run around five, ten deep. You know niggas ain't built for that. You really think ten niggas is going to sit down and do their charm and this ever no, no, but these niggas is rats and no good man, that's just what it is man. I'm going to call a spade a spade, but nigga official, I'm going to give him his clout. He official, those niggas is bad business man. Bad business, that's just what it is man.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about how Ice Cream, what he did with Tony, with Tony Clanton. You know what I'm saying, wolverine Tone, and why people would, why you would consider that telling.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Tone Wolverine, gangster, for real, that's my nigga. Since I was five years old, big, he used to come to my crib, him and Dave. Shout out to Dave, I love you, snoop, all of them. Those is my niggas I'm talking about from the grain. Well, it's clear. He took a proper agreement. We all know a proper is queen for a day. That's why I said say what you mean to mean what you say. You could never be a king when you was queen for a day. That's the term. Now Queen says where's the paperwork? This and that, because Queen knows that Tone is not allowed to physically get his proper agreement. They stopped that because niggas was getting their head blown off. Yo, this nigga, tone, look right here. But he's able to view it with his attorney. You get what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

And Cream lined it all out, not to mention before that he came to Tone and tried to the same shit Teague did to a degree. But he came to Tone and was like yo, tone, look, I'm going to go in. You know what I mean. They want me to get you. I'm going to take this proffered agreement. I'm going to act like I'm going to go in on you. But when they call me to the stand, I'm going to flip it. I'm going to say no, he didn't have nothing to do with it. I had it and all that. I don't. I know Tone was probably it's my little cousin, maybe he's going to do that. So Cream told everything that happened and now when it was time to go to trial, tone had his attorney called Cream's attorney and Cream told him I know my client don't want to have nothing to do with that. This is why they moved him out of NBC like a month before the trial.

Speaker 2:

If you punch him from what I heard, if you punch him by mean Smith, you can't find him. It's not in BOP custody. There's only one reason why they do that because you're a rat. And I already put the paperwork that Tone did send to me which said his case is sealed. Why would Queens should be sealed? Sealed equals squilled. That's what that means. Whenever you see something that said nigga shit, sealed, that means he's squilled. But when Queen go to take his cop out, it is going to say what he did in there. It's going to say he worked with the government for leniency. Tony already told me his minimum was 14 years. That was his mandatory minimum. So how could you even get seven or eight years, queen? And when King was talking about he was going to do this podcast with Queen, I said yo, I hope you're going to do real journalistic, integrity journalism, don't let him just lie. And I gave him a list of questions to ask Queen. Since you just want to act like he ain't a rat, ask him all these questions.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I gave him some questions to ask Cream too he ain't gonna do that.

Speaker 2:

He dick rock, cream sloppy poppies hoping to Cream rap career regenerate. He could be the DJ or something. Why else would you even be doing this? What you think you gonna get some views? Nobody don't listen to that shit. He too much of a copy sloppy, he's too much of a corn, a dirty nigga. Look how he look and dress. Nobody ain't checking for that. Nobody outside the new even notice. No, I mean. So I guess he's like yo. Well, let me, let me be an advocate for cream. But that's that's why cream is a rat.

Speaker 2:

Not only did he do that, he told on my little man, kc. He told on kc and kc's attorney said the dude, the guy's in federal custody, he no longer wants to um testify. That's why kc got that little bit of time. And niggas, who was there that day, said cream was acting funny. What happened happened was Casey was driving a car with another nigga, another bro from the hood I ain't gonna say his name because he ain't got nothing to do with it and Cream kept asking them niggas yo, where y'all going, where y'all going, what way y'all taking Shit like that Niggas? Cream's mans was looking at him. They didn't know them, but they was like yo, this nigga acting weird.

Speaker 2:

He was on the phone. He went to the side and was whispering on his phone. Obviously he was calling the police. He did the same shit a nigga named Paul Kent did to me years ago, but obviously he was calling the police. They stopped KC down there near the ferry, him and the other dude he got locked up with and they caught the gripping there. But Cream was the confidential informant who tipped him off in the first place. And Cream was the only nigga because he was supposed to get in the car. He didn't, or they let him out or whatever. He was the only nigga else involved with it and he was the only nigga in the feds at the time. And Casey's attorney came back and told me he said yo, whoever was cooperating against you, they no longer want to cooperate. They in federal custody. That was clean.

Speaker 1:

You know what I mean, and then you'll never find that on paperwork, because then it'd be confidential informant.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, but everybody that's involved in it knows exactly who it is. Yeah, so these niggas, you ain't always going to get paperwork. These niggas, like I told you, a nigga named Ball Camp told on me years ago I couldn't get no paperwork. I know he did it. But I know in court they said a confidential informant told him, me and my little cousin Greg, rest in peace. He told him I couldn't get the paperwork. But I know in open court they said, and I know he did it, just by how the incident went down and that's what Cream did. But it's paperwork on Cream with Chone and eventually it'll come out Because when he cop out they're going to say he helped the government. Everybody know he helped the government already. The real niggas know it's just some people that like them and family members. That's a bad thing when somebody you look up to go bad.

Speaker 1:

That's a bad thing. My son from from from Brooklyn, my son, china Brim, 05-0 the movement. Shout out to China Brim. You know what I'm saying. I was chopping it up with him and he, he, he said he knew. As soon as I sent him ice cream pick, he said he knew it was up. You know what I'm saying? He was like he in Hudson right now telling on Tone. You know what I'm saying? This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2:

Everybody knows this.

Speaker 1:

He's all the way in a different loop. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, in a different state. I be tuning into his shit. I was going to send him the paperwork. You know what I mean. Now Tone sent me and this is what I'm saying his big cousin, why would Tone want to say? He told on him, like Tone said, I was keeping an under wraps, hoping that he really do take the stand and try to, you know, say what he said he was going to say.

Speaker 2:

You know what I mean, but he knew he was around all along and you know, if they would have did what Tone wanted them to do, he wouldn't even be here, no more.

Speaker 1:

Tone tried to get to him With knowledge, because niggas are saying knowledge drives snitch. How'd that happen?

Speaker 2:

You know I love Nall. I don't. You know I don't really want to go in with that shit with Nall. I don't know Tone sent me what he sent me. I don't know what Nall did, but you know they saying Nall told the dudes when Tones allegedly did whatever he did, he ran up in the crib. Nall said yo, I didn't have nothing to do with that. That was my nephew and the person who took the stand at Tones Federal Trial said that. You know what I mean. So I don't know Nall didn't try to snitch like he told he didn't know that when he told something like that he was going to get up there and say that in federal court. He was just saying yo, I ain't had nothing to do with that. You know I wouldn't do that. That ain't my style. But you know if he said it, son did say that in federal court or whatever. Yeah, okay, Like, let me say this I'm not on no rat crusade.

Speaker 2:

I know a lot of niggas who rat it, some niggas I really fuck with and hurt me. I'm not blowing them up because they ain't out here acting like they ain't rat or being tough and all that, but for my I can't allow a pedophile rat to be in a cell flexing, rhyming, saying all this shit and you in Hudson PC somewhere talking about you gonna live like a king. I bet you is nigga. They probably gonna bring you coffee, donuts, fluffy pillows, extra mattress, everything. You is gonna live like what you went with. You won't walk no yard. I bet you that. I bet you this whole bed here. Never walk a fucking yard or USP the whole time he's there. He know that. Everybody know he's a rat. You know what I mean. It's ridiculous that people even got to act like he ain't.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact. It's ridiculous. That's a fact. But, let's move along and address the situation. You said, like Jateek, how Jateek kind of said he wanted to cooperate. I had no knowledge of this. You kind of enlightened me, but I definitely want to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's one of them. Knowledge of this. You kind of enlightened me, but I definitely haven't talked about it. That's running around Allegedly. When him and Traj was in a cell he told Traj oh Traj, let me go in on you. The government want me to tell on you. Let me go in on you. You know you ain't going to get around us and I'll hold you down your whole bit. Who would even say that to a nigga? First of all, chad's just facing life. You know, these niggas will do a year or two for you and then forget you. Oh, he ain't coming home, I ain't doing nothing for him. But more than that, a real nigga would never say that I would never be in a gym. And then tell a nigga yo, let me go in on you. What are you talking about? And from what I heard, chad said now you can't do that. Get out myself or I'll do something to you. And that's why they moved him out of the cell.

Speaker 1:

Know, what I mean. Did niggas ever speak to Traz and he confirmed that.

Speaker 2:

I never spoke to him but yes, it's people who allegedly spoke to Traz and he confirmed it. Yeah, and when you you know you fuck with him, you ask him. You know what I mean Whenever you get a chance and see if he confirming for you.

Speaker 2:

See I can't, because I didn't talk to him. I can't say for sure, but I'm 90% sure that's probably really what happened. You know what I mean? Yeah, and that's what these niggas do. They be gangsta, but that time is real you getting old and all that and that's why you got to think about what you're going to. Anything I ever did I thought about okay, this is what I'm going to face if I get caught, and I was either going to do it or I said now you know what, it ain't worth it. These niggas just do anything for the dollar in the moment, no one the repercussion of it, and then when it's time to do, that time this is what you do, like Queen, for instance. You know what I mean. This is a nigga.

Speaker 2:

Tone was a nigga that, first of all, queen was a bum all his life. He never got no money in the hood, ever. On his own merits. He landed Tone and his brother Jotik put money in his pocket that Queen would have never saw in his life Ever. And when he's the type of nigga because he never had shit, you give him a couple dollars. He want to act rich and be friendly and screw on his face. Doing all this foolishness. Tone was putting $10,000 a month in this nigga's pocket for four years and you were paying by telling him yeah, that's crazy, and this is out of Tone's mouth. I got the text and all that. He said everybody that he was giving money to every month and he feel niggas, you know, turn their back on him. But cream, you know, this is, this is what he was doing for, you know, I mean, and that's how he repaid him by doing some sucker shit like that and it's killing them because, you know, quitting one of them. Niggas, he want to be tough, he want to front. He know you lost that mystique. You forever is going to be known as sour cream, cream cheese, aka the BB gun bandit. Nigga, that's just what you are. Nigga, you know what I mean. You can't ever come out of that shell once you go in it. You knew you wasn't ready to do another bit. You shouldn't have been doing those type of crime, because this is Tony Mo, this is what he do. I know that's what he do. Because me and regardless, because this is just what he do, you know what I mean. He's built like that. Cream ain't built like that.

Speaker 2:

I was doing shit like that, running up in cribs and tying niggas up and yo in the 90s robbing damn near the whole city. Every week we went to the clubs and just robbed everybody coming out or whoever. And he was trying to do that. Cleen wanted to do that. I never took him with me to the city because he always was acting extra. You know what I mean. And even the night that shit happened to him, his little cousin, his cousin. Come on, you, 27 years old, you really try to rob somebody with a BB gun. Who is doing that? This is what the people need to understand. This is the mindset of this type of dude. He's always been a fraud. You rob and sit with a BB gun, got your little cousin laid down, then you ran off and left him to die by himself.

Speaker 2:

And it's crazy because they jumped out on me off the block. After that happened, I drove off the block, block. I had a dude black duet. He had a black duet. They jumped out anything that was happening in the late 90s. They was blaming me for it.

Speaker 2:

But the person, the one that when that happened, it was a female there that knew him. She grew up with him, you know what I mean. That was her man that they tried to rob. So she knew. So they had me look up in the air. They jumped out, look out for you. They told me, turn to the side, look up. But I was able to see who that was in the van. I said, okay, that's how I know. She know I didn't do it. She was crying. She shook her head like no, like no, that ain't him. They let me go. And you know that's the night that happened.

Speaker 2:

I've run into him two years later. I went up top I guess he was on the island. They brought me back down for they tried to chump up a fake murder charge that I have nothing to do with. Some were hot rod and a rat named Sean Murray, I guess, brought me into that. They brought me all the way back down the court for that and I was in the bullpen with cream. This is probably the first time I really see. No, this is the probably the first time I really since that happened. It was definitely the first time.

Speaker 2:

But I also slapped his fucking head off not too long before. He did that with the BB gun shit. So we talking and all that. I'm like what up? So I'm telling him he was only facing five years. They was giving him five or six years. He already had two years in. I said, cream, you better take that time. Fuckers know you. He said, nah, boom, boom, boom. They don't know how they gonna say I did it. I said, cream, you got caught with the fucking rolling. You was already the prime suspect. You was on the run. They already know you did it. He said, nah, I could have brought that watch, got that from anybody. So this is the mindset of a retarded nigga when he said that to me.

Speaker 2:

I was sitting there like this nigga's really retarded what it was. He didn't want to go off top. He was fucking with this chick rest in peace. She no longer here named Crystal, and he was worried about her, you know, and she was doing what she was doing and I told him in cell Queen Crystal ain't worrying about you, you shouldn't be worrying about her. Take that five years or six years, whatever. I think he was going to have to do four more. He already had two in or three more.

Speaker 2:

He rolled the dice, won the trial, blew trial, wound up doing 15 years. But this is the nigga that got caught with the rolling. The dude was a cop. So you know his identification. They gonna believe him. And Shorty know him and said yeah, he was dead. So why would you even try to go to trial? That's just how retarded he is. You know what I mean. He's that type of nigga. He also allegedly that's the type A dude ran away. Rest in peace, patrick.

Speaker 2:

Them niggas lit him on fire while he was sleeping. That's the type of nigga he is. When he was young. This is the type of mindset he got. You know what I mean To do shit like that to someone we grew up with that was older than us. I guess he was on a hard time. He was drunk, sleeping outside or homeless. That nigga set him on a blaze. You know what I mean? Crazy shit, crazy shit. The nigga died. Nah, he didn't die, he died now, years later, but he burnt his face up for the rest of his life. He's looking like Freddy Krueger or some shit. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

From that same shit with Hollow, this nigga posted a picture with Hollow, supposed to be his best friend, and he's just. I don't care what nobody say. Niggas know Queen probably had a lot to do with having with Hollow Because Hollow got into two situations Down south. You know something happened. He got the short end of the stick. You know it went viral at the time. He got. You know he lost that fight or whatever. But Sam was punching him all in the head. He was unconscious and then not probably a month or two later or whatever Queen, probably a month or two later or whatever. Queen knocks him out, sucker, punches him, showing off for a bitch and then stomping on him repeatedly. And you got the nerve to be posting pictures with him. How could that be a man, you ever do something like that to your man?

Speaker 2:

And shortly after that Hollow had a brain aneurysm. Hollow's brain was probably swelling up. He didn't know. You know he was drinking and shit, not really probably taking care of himself, and that shit messed up Harlow's life for the rest of his life. He ain't the same and Queen got a. He played a role in that. Yeah, that's crazy.

Speaker 2:

And then you posting pictures talking about this has been the night I knocked he live out. Can you imagine that that shit would have been on World News with Peter Jennings nigga, this fuck, nigga knocked me out. That would have been the highlight of his life. He would have been telling his grandkids and wife yo, I knocked P-Live out. We had a little altercation in the club. It was over some girls my girl at the time she remained nameless, she ain't got nothing to do with this and his wife at the time he was disrespecting. Yo, p-live this, your bitch. You better get your bitch Now. Who the fuck you talking to? I jumped up. They got in between us. He ran out the club and that was that, no, yeah, at that moment.

Speaker 2:

Now, a few days later, I'm walking up the block. You know they lived up the block. I forgot about it. I'm like you know, I know how this nigga is Like, this is a retarded little nigga man. I'm walking up the block sipping my ice cup and he's screwing me. I'm like yo, what the fuck did you do? He knocked my cup out of my hand. I thought, hey, make Adam. He jumped back. We squared up. They got in between us. I said yeah, because the police was like. I said, yeah, I'm going to fuck Now.

Speaker 2:

Then I start going off on him because his man was there, a official nigga named Slash. That you know, he's an official nigga from LES or whatever. I wound up knowing him after that because we was locked up together. He official though, he was showing off for him. But I started saying you BB gun, ass nigga, you was trying to live my life because he wanted to. Rob wanted me to take him with me, tried to get a hammer and all that. So that was, and that because he didn't want to. I'm like yo, we got to fight. You violated nigga.

Speaker 2:

His brother, bobo, came. I said, Bobo, I'm not going to do nothing to him. Look, I had to whip. I seen him. He ran. He ran into a house on Crescent when I was at the light. He probably thought I was looking for him because I was waiting for him at the park to come fight. He said we was going to fight at the park. That nigga voted in the house on Crescent I don't know whose house it was. I laughed Look at this bitch. So I'm waiting at the park, me and Bobo. I'm like yo, bobo, what's up, he calls. I'm like yo, cream, where you at. We said y'all gonna fight, and that's it. Clem said I ain't know his time, he wait for me. After he about to say I ain't got no time for that, I'll see him. Boom.

Speaker 2:

And later on that day I think it was that same day, the next day, I'm waiting. I sees him. I'm plowing, I'm riding by, I'm on a squib. Now I see him at the pizza shop. He was with his man, deebo, and his wife at the time. I run down on him Yo, what up, yo, what's up.

Speaker 2:

I thought he was going to fight. Now I'm ready to do something else to him, because now you ain't even trying to fight the old p cop to plead your name about. Now. I'm like yo. Why you did that, yo miss? I said yo don't play with me no more. Man, I'm gonna spare you because I could have just drilled him right there. But I'm not no bully and I know what type of punk he is. But he held on. When he came home, I was really happy. He came home, I sold city, finally home. But he held on to me smacking the fucking Dax Wave griefs out of his ass in 99.

Speaker 2:

Now it's 2014,. And you still mad. Now he think, alright, I'm not in no gang talking to me, p-law, he's in a gang. He think he's some big homie. Now he think he got the odds to front on me. I would never. I don't give a fuck how many niggas he have on. I'll never let a bitch like him front on me. That so, and I remember telling my man who I don't fuck with no more.

Speaker 2:

But back then, like yo, this nigga claims acting weird, I don't know what it is. I said I know this nigga ain't still mad about me smacking the shit out of him. And sure enough he was, because I told you when we had that little altercation at the club, he said yeah, I've been waiting for this Nigga. You violated me. He was still holding on to me, knowing he deserved it because he asked me. And then we started arguing and he told me SMB, he's lucky. I didn't do nothing worse to him, especially the way I was carrying it back then, I just smacked his fucking head off.

Speaker 2:

That nigga sat on the gate sniffling quiet like a church man. I told him you lucky, bobo is your brother, or I'll do something worse to you and I guess that hurt his pride. Maybe he was supposed to be someone then but, like I told you, we was on two different wavelengths. Man, I'm not that much older than Cream, but I'm three years older than Cream and he never, for the record, he never was a regulator. I don't know why he's always putting regulate like he was down with us. You never was a regulator ever. I was the youngest regulator back then. He's younger than me. He was way too young to ever be a regulator. Stop it, yeah. So we don't deal with pedophiles and rats. Just stop it, yeah. Yeah, man, we don't jack pedophiles and rats, just stop it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, same here, man, we don't jack pedophiles and rats. And before we end the interview, I just wanted to address something too. You know, what I said with Cream on the internet was speculation because you know, I reviewed Traj's case and I seen that there were lyrics recovered from his cell. You know, Traj did not confirm that Ice Cream was the one to recover the lyrics. But my speculation is I know for a fact that Ice Cream had access to Traj's cell at certain times and the lyrics that was said to be recovered you know, my man still has those, still has those. So what I speculate is that Ice Cream had access to the cell and he found those lyrics and he copied them and that played a part in his leniency with the government. You know what I'm saying. He recovered, Absolutely. He recovered those lyrics and he gave them to the FBI.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. I mean, I tell you I saw a documentary. I forgot if it was Word on the Street or something else. They were saying all that about tragic cellmate. At first I thought it was Teek, but then he's like Teek ain't his co-defendant. But that was the throw-off. It was Cream, because what happened was they said it on there that they I don't know if he still got or did Queen write it down but they said that he gave the rap, the rhyme, to the government and that was one of the main blows of the case. Of course it was Queen you gotta ask Trans to confirm that or not. But I suspect, ladies and gentlemen, everybody that I fuck with or ran away, we all think it's Queen that did it because from my understanding at that time those was his only cellmates. It was Teek and then when Teek left it was Cream and I believe they planted both of them niggas in there to try to get Doug on track Exactly To try to get whatever information they could possibly extract out of him.

Speaker 2:

What's the odds of your brother leaving out the cell and now here you come in the cell. You know what I mean and Tri's probably not knowing, thinking Kramer still stand up, but nah, he stood down. You know what I mean. That's what he did. He did bad. So for all you motherfuckers, keep talking about the paperwork. Let me say this If y'all don't know nothing about the Fed, shut the fuck up. If you don't know nothing about law, be quiet.

Speaker 2:

Tone cannot physically get a copy of the proffer agreement, at least not at this time, cause they know what I, you know they they trying to prevent niggas from getting killed, from being rat. But he was able to view it with his attorney and cream lined out everything that happened in the case, along with this rat L. I don't know this dude L, but any nigga that kill a nigga for messing up his haircut is a fucking retard anyway. Allegedly that's how he got his time. So they didn't. Cream didn't take the stand, but they used Cream's proffer to collaborate everything that L said when he took the stand. So all this about no Cream, you didn't, but you made a profit and you could never take that back and you know you did. That's why Tone was trying to do something to him. But you know Tone's family didn't want to be a part of that bringing Cream to Tone so Tone could do what he had to do. Because, like Tone told me, he said I to Tone so Tone could do what he had to do. Because, like Tone told me, he said I knew he was a weakling. I knew this nigga was a weakling and he didn't even never even really fucked with Cream until 2016.

Speaker 2:

Cream owned Harvard and acknowledged him until 2015. Me and him worked in Arlington together and we talked about it. Man I lived in, I grew up in the building with Cream. We all from the same building, the CeeLo building, 4, 5, 6. All of us you know what I mean and we know, everybody knows he never even acknowledged Cream as his son until years later.

Speaker 2:

Man, for whatever reasons, man, cream got mental issues that he needed to get help for. He got child molestation issues that he needed to fix and he's lucky to get help for he got child molestation issues that he need to fix and he's lucky to still be alive. And then you already did bad with that. But then, you know, you took it to the next level with the rag Now you should be banned from ever coming back. But Kareem is so crazy, he will come back after that child molestation shit.

Speaker 2:

And when he copped out, yo, you should have saw how tough he was acting, screwing everybody, yo, we used to be crying like, nigga, you a chomo. That ain't gonna stop you from ever being a chomo. And nobody would never cop out to what he copped out to. If they didn't do it, you could put me in an electric chair. I never, ever, would take a charge like that. If I didn't do something like that, I don't care if they say, yo, you'll get out in 10 days or 1,100. I'm a roll of dice, nigga, because I couldn't live with myself doing something like that. You know what I mean? I could never. So he did it and, like I said, he got multiple offenses, the family got multiple offenses and he's a rat to boot. It, and he's a rat to boot. It's over for you. Sour cream, cream cheese, aka the BB gun bandit Pack it up, nigga, pack it the fuck up.

Speaker 2:

And I got so much rhymes for this nigga, I'm not going to even do it now. I'm going to wait. I'm going to hold off. You know what I mean, because I'm getting vicious in this one. I'm going to wait. I can't wait for his interview.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, whoever interviewed him, they need to address that. Let me say this For all y'all saying he ain't a rat he can get his paperwork. Because that's what I would do If a nigga said I was a rat and oh, I can't get. Okay, I'm going to get my paperwork. Y'all go tell Cream to go get his docket number and to tell you every day he want the call, every time he want the call, and what he said, if you see it's blacked out. You already know. So if y'all don't want to believe me or told, tell him to get his own paperwork and prove he ain't a rat. That's all he got to do and I'll shut up. I will track everything I said and I put $10,000 in his commerce service. Nigga, and that's word to mama love on mama love's urn and grave, nigga.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and we can leave it at that.

Speaker 1:

We can end it right there. You know what I'm saying. Get your paperwork. We already know what it is with the rest of your brothers, jateek and everybody else. You know what I'm saying. You all want to get in that bragging boasting cream. Get your paperwork. That's all we want.

Speaker 2:

That's it, nobody don't want to hear no raps from a rat. Your rap is trash, nigga. Just stop it, nigga. You trash and your image is fake. You're finished, bro. You can't come back from that.

Speaker 1:

It's over, that's it, that's a fact. Man Shout out to Tony Clanton, man Shout out to Tony the big dog, and he might be home.

Speaker 2:

It ain't over. He got immediate appeal. He go back at the end of this month or June. A couple things can happen. They can dismiss it outright, which probably most likely they ain't gonna do that. They can order a new trial and he can get a bail while they order a new trial. So you know, hopefully one of them things happens. We're knowing June, you know.

Speaker 2:

Shout out to Tony man. Shout out to now born. Shout out to the regulators. Shout out to all the real niggas. You know who you are. There's too many of you niggas that name, but y'all know who you are. You know who my heart's in and who I got love for you and who I got love for. You know what I mean, and it always been 20 versus 1. These niggas group up. They be mad at me for fucking, they bitches and violating them and all that type of shit. But the niggas that love me love me. You know how many niggas I saved in the new.

Speaker 2:

Like I said, not the Nigga when we was going to jail before the gang shit. We was playing that flag. We had to get busy on the island so niggas could come behind us Me SI, other niggas from other hoods too, but I'm talking about niggas from New Brighton who planted that flag. Two top bunches shot Yo, where you from Staten Island, skinny nigga, had to fight for the phone, taking the phone, putting it in my back pocket. You niggas could never do that. Stop it. You niggas is in a cell, scared to death. To come out you gotta be with 20 niggas. But that's the era we live in, I'm telling you. I remember in my era when we first started, you was corny. If you was in a gang, niggas looked at you. Man, you looked at corny if you ain't in a gang.

Speaker 1:

It's still the same. I'm 550. I'm jacking 550. I look at all the niggas and the gangs is corny.

Speaker 2:

And I salute the rail rights, the first niggas that played that flag. Those niggas had to do it and it was a common cause. Niggas was oppressing them. Now, when they do it, it's self-protection and they just beating up each other.

Speaker 1:

There's no other reason to do it.

Speaker 2:

That's what they do. They go, you go in that wrong, the wrong dorm or cell them niggas switch sets like underwear nigga. Yeah, that's a fact, that's what they do. So it ain't no honor with this shit. But yeah, little bro, I'm about to take my daughters out and relax and enjoy myself. Man, it was a pleasure talking to you. You need me again. We do part two. We'll do that. But Sloppy Poppy I don't know who put you up to that, but you don't wish you didn't do that fat, nasty, warless looking ass. Nigga. Nigga, named Sloppy Poppy, got the nerve the unmitigated, unadulterated goal to disrespect a demigod. Nigga, fuck is wrong with you. But yeah, on that note, I'm out, little bro.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, god bless you and yours man. Have a wonderful day, man.

Speaker 2:

You already.

Speaker 1:

Peace, peace. Lftg. Signing out. Man Shout out to my brother Traj the Don.

Speaker 2:

Peace, that's right. Traj Tone, free to rail, you already.

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