Understanding Pain Management and Wellness through Energy Work

Have you ever considered how energy work might be the missing link to your chronic pain or how you can positively shift your mindset towards aging? We're peeling back the layers of these provocative questions in our latest episode where we sit down with the extraordinary Laura Fisher, a medical massage therapist with a knack for healing. Laura takes us through her fascinating journey into the world of therapeutic massage, shares the successes she's had with patients, and even invites me to experience her energy work firsthand.

Our conversation with Laura unravels countless valuable insights, not only on the science of pain management but also on maintaining overall wellness, and the magic that energy work can bring to the mix. Laura discusses how her distinctive approach to healing has helped her grapple with the complexities of diagnosing and treating pain, and she dives into one particularly inspiring case study of a patient who regained mobility after a year and a half of treatment. We also delve into the world of pickled foods and supplements, as Laura explains the role they play in gut health.

We cap off our riveting discussion with Laura with a deep dive into the importance of self-care and our mindset towards aging. How the sedentary lifestyle affects your well-being and how your upbringing shapes your perception of treatment are among the topics we explore. Laura touches on the significance of healing from past traumas and the power of simple compliments. As we approach the holiday season, let's remember to look after ourselves and one another. It's an episode packed with healing, empowerment, and meaningful conversation - don't miss it.

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:03

Good day everyone. This is Dietrich. We get fit methods that fit like blueprint, and this is our first video podcast. We have Laura Fisher and Laura. You can tell us basically you know what you do and how you get started and what you do.

Speaker 2: 0:24

I'm a medical massage therapist and I got started because I wanted to help other people, because I have chronic Lyme disease and I really needed to change careers too as well. So I thought that would be a perfect thing to do, or try, you know. So I went into it and it was a. It's been a, it's been a journey. I mean, it's really hard to get into the profession by yourself anyway, but there's just so many different things. I worked for mobile places for a little while and then I said I can't do this. I don't want to, you know, do that. That's not what I'm meant to do. So I said I'm going to open my own office and I'll give it five years, and if I don't make it, then I'm going to do something else. So I made it past the five year mark I.

Speaker 2: 1:18

The turning point when I knew I should be here was when somebody came in to me and they had like a foot that looked like elephantitis. It was so big and huge and swollen. I just was like internally I was thinking, what am I going to do? You know, I was just like flabbergasted, you know. So I told him do you have to come every week? And we're going to have to try everything possible I can think of to get the swelling down. And he said, well, I can't afford to come every week. And I said, well, he works for like a bottling company once a week and they give him a free bottle, you know, of whiskey. And I said, well, one week you can pay me, one week you can give me a bottle of whiskey. So that's what I did, and I had a lot of whiskey on myself by the time it was over with. But we tried everything, we tried cupping, we tried just everything. Because he had back surgery and they hit his spinal cord and it was leaking and then it caused, you know, pain down his leg and numbness. Then his whole foot was numb so nobody could do anything for him after that. So I just did everything I possibly could and finally, after probably a year and a half, it has a real foot again, you know so, and he'll come back to me like every month, once a month. So that was one of the success stories.

Speaker 2: 2:42

So that's basically the kind of people that come to me, the ones that aren't going to give up. That you know everybody's given up on, and I won't give up on them. So that's why I know I need to be here. And then in school I started feeling everybody's pain that I would work on and I didn't think that was was normal. So I asked the teacher you know what it was? And I didn't know if I could finish because of that and she said oh, you're one of them, I'm like one of who? She goes, you have a gift.

Speaker 2: 3:15

And I'm like, how's that a gift? You know pain? And she said I don't know, I'm not one of you, you're gonna have to figure out how to get rid of it. So it's just me getting stronger and stronger over the years and I've been able to help people with their pain by just using my energy and their energy. People that believe in it. Not everybody believes in it or they think it's weird, but it's getting really strong. And I'll suggest they put like superfood stuff in their salad or on their food because they go well, we eat really clean, but that doesn't mean anything you know you have to have all these other things in there and doesn't mean your stomach's like absorbing the food you're eating. So I try to get them a stretch and all that stuff and then, when they get better, then they can do more exercising, you know, but a lot of them are 50 and over, you know right so it's like some of our 70s of sorry, sorry

Speaker 1: 4:13

go ahead explain to me a little bit more detail, like the methodology behind what you do.

Speaker 2: 4:25

I'm just kind of a natural at it.

Speaker 1: 4:28

There's some of the energy yeah, I mean just just all of like what. Where is the like the? I made a name for what you do, and then what is the methodology behind what you do?

Speaker 2: 4:38

let me see what's her name. I think is a woman. A lot of time they call it. You know they do Reiki, but it's not the same as what I do.

Speaker 1: 4:51

I mean it's energy.

Speaker 2: 4:53

They do points on your body. But I just can go and feel, scan people's body and I can feel where they've had past injuries or where they're having trouble or something's kind of wrong. But the problem is, when you feel something that's kind of wrong, you don't know what's wrong, especially if they tell you they don't feel anything bad there. You know, I had a lady come in and I felt something like on her rib and she said it felt fine. I felt something on her ankle and she said that felt fine and she was recovering from endometrial cancer and she was like in her 70s. And then she called me the next week and said I can't come in, I'm going to the hospital. I have blood clots in my legs and my lungs. Oh my gosh, you know. So it's hard when you don't know what it is, you know.

Speaker 1: 5:39

Right, right.

Speaker 2: 5:42

So I didn't know when that I was around before all this happened and it was family that lived near us and we're really good friends and I kept feeling like something like gray around him all the time. And I was around him, just gray, and I told my husband something's wrong with him or something's not right, or you know. I didn't know if he was a weirdo or what you know, because this is when I first started feeling different things here. He had cancer and he died within a month. Wow.

Speaker 1: 6:09

So, yeah, now, this is a hands-on kind of approach, or can you just basically look at him and tell, or no, I can't really look at him unless, like, I feel something.

Speaker 2: 6:23

But I try not to be an empath anymore, because I try to shut that part off, because you know you feel a lot of stuff when people are unhappy or angry and you don't really know what that is, so I shut that off, hopefully, but no, I have to be more hands-on. I don't really touch them, just you know where our energy meets. I'll say I have my hands scanning it, you know.

Speaker 2: 6:50

And my daughter she can touch, she only does hers with touching people, which you could feel it that way too. But and my other daughter, I only want to do animals, because she don't want to deal with people.

Speaker 1: 7:04

Well, I understand that. I understand that aspect of it for sure.

Speaker 2: 7:08

But it's gotten stronger and stronger the more I've had this office and it's morphed into different things. But it's all trying to help people, you know, and trying to, and I try to get them to do exercises, but little exercises for their hips and stuff if they've had hip surgery. I had one guy come to me and he couldn't even sit down on the commode.

Speaker 2: 7:31

I mean it's just awful and he had had knee surgery, but that was like eight months ago. You know I'm like okay. So he just didn't do anything and let his legs get atrophied. So I said, okay, if you want me to help you, you have to commit to this because I'm going to hurt myself and I'm going to hurt you. So he's been coming over a year now and he's doing pretty good. They told him he would never be able to like kneel down on one knee. Well, he can kneel down on both knees now, but he can't lean back. So I still have to work all the muscles really hard, you know, on up on each side. So he's getting there. It's just like a process of getting through all that tissue. You know when people like to go.

Speaker 1: 8:12

What would you say? The mindset is around what you have to do in order for them to get better.

Speaker 2: 8:22

My mindset.

Speaker 1: 8:23

Yeah, it's like you know, I'm sure I take some like a certain kind of focus for you to basically to heal him Right, you have to try different things.

Speaker 2: 8:32

Yeah, and I'll never give anybody the same massage, ever. I just like feel your body and feel what I have where it needs to go. You know where my hands need to go. Most of the time it's always different, different combinations and everything. I don't do protocol like everybody else does. Yeah, and then these people nobody will take anymore because there are too much work, I guess, for people you know, and then you know it's just I don't know. I've had a rough life so I figure I should help people.

Speaker 1: 9:09

Okay, All right, I mean it's fair, fair enough. So as far as, like any of your, you have like favorite books or podcasts, you recommend that folks can you know kind of find out more about how this works or even how to contact you to get more information? You haven't had that. I guess my idea is for that.

Speaker 2: 9:33

Yeah, they could contact me, I guess, on my email or probably, or my phone, but probably my email would be best.

Speaker 1: 9:46

Okay, and what's your email?

Speaker 2: 9:48

It's LLFisherFISHER2009 at gmailcom.

Speaker 1: 9:55

Cool. Do you have any recommendations for books or podcasts?

Speaker 2: 10:00

It's like the woman's name was trying to figure out what her name was. Let me think about it. There was a woman that started some of this and it was called because I looked to see what maybe I had when it started happening. But mine just comes natural. I guess for my dad Her name was Dolores Craigler. Okay, and she did something like that Taught people. I have the book.

Speaker 1: 10:43

Just be clear it's not. It's not Reiki.

Speaker 2: 10:47

No.

Speaker 1: 10:48

Okay, alright. The first thing to mind was Reiki, because I have a friend who basically has done that too. Called it energy work, but I got to know.

Speaker 2: 10:57

But a lot of people like they're afraid of it because they can't imagine that you know somebody could you know, just feel that you know.

Speaker 1: 11:09

Well, it's definitely different, for sure than most you know protocol or techniques where we'll call it for healing. I mean, everybody knows need to eat healthier and all that kind of stuff like imagine super greens, but when?

Speaker 2: 11:24

it comes to you know, and people have to commit Right, everybody really commit. Because they don't commit, they start feeling better and like, okay, I'm done. Right, I'm like you're not done. You're not gonna get better because as we get older, we don't go backwards.

Speaker 2: 11:40

Right, but I mean I'm, but you're talking about your people. I used to dance, used to be a dancer, and I was pretty fit long when I was dancing down in DC, you know. And then they had a 60th anniversary at the club in Virginia. So I went the other night and one guy's like one of my old customers there and I was like he's like you want to dance. I'm like not really. You know, I'm white and I haven't been on the stage in 10 years and he's, I said give me 10. I said, give me a hundred dollars and I'll do it. Right. So he gave me a hundred dollars. I got my bag up there for eight minutes and I was swinging around the poles and all that shit Like I had never left.

Speaker 2: 12:26

Oh, geez, and everybody's like, everybody's like. You look, you look how long has it been since you've been here, you know, and you look better than when you left and you know. So I was like oh, so it was fun, but it's, that's hard work.

Speaker 1: 12:41

Yeah. Yeah, I mean to stay fit definitely is. It's a journey. I mean it is just one day at a time, that's all. It is One day at a time. It's kind of slow to people.

Speaker 2: 12:51

People just they jump into it and start lifting and lifting and stuff. I just started that. It's not up there right now. Some of it is against hanging there. Started that yoga thing and I just do pull up every day and do a little bit and I get stronger and stronger. First time I couldn't even pull myself up, so yeah. You know, it's a process.

Speaker 2: 13:13

Eating small things every day, eating like pickled stuff, is really good for it. I'll eat some, you know, pickles or whatever pickled stuff, chicken salad not much during the day. Where's the pickled?

Speaker 1: 13:27

stuff. Where's the pickled stuff? What is it good for?

Speaker 2: 13:31

It seems to help me keep weight down. Okay, pickles, and what's it called? Oh, what are those Stuffed these? Whatever these are, I forget what they're called Stuffed. I have to put my glasses on to see Terrible. They're the, you know, olives olives got it.

Speaker 1: 14:03

Yeah, yeah, absolutely yeah.

Speaker 2: 14:04

Just little stuff and I lost weight.

Speaker 1: 14:08

Most of the pickle stuff that I'm aware of, like kimchi and all that kind of stuff. I don't like kimchi. It's supposed to be good for digested the digestive system so and there is a podcast about the digestive system.

Speaker 2: 14:20

But I gotta think what's called it's about your gut. Right Got health Mm, hmm, yeah it's a guy and he's pretty good. He thinks that if you have good gut health, then you'll rewind and look younger, and all this stuff.

Speaker 1: 14:38

I'm pretty sure some truth to that To some degree right, To some degree To some degree.

Speaker 2: 14:43

I mean it just depends. But everybody goes crazy on everything you know. And then I'll say I'll take this pill called horse tail grass pill, if you've ever heard of that.

Speaker 1: 14:55

I have not.

Speaker 2: 14:56

Sometimes, and it's good for gout and everything, liver and all kinds of stuff If your legs hurt, if you have leg pain and everything, and it actually absorbs inflammation and everything, because I, you know, I don't suggest anything unless I've tried it. So, quite a few of my customers use it because they get bone spurs and all this stuff. But it makes natural silica which absorbs all this stuff you don't need. So a couple of people use it. Helps keep going. Help them keep going, you know.

Speaker 1: 15:31

Nice.

Speaker 2: 15:31

But I have most of my clients are return. They're all you know, they're all regular. And I give them, give them a certain price for them. And people are like why don't you just give everybody the same price? Because if they come regular, they can't come regular if they don't have a certain price. Right, you know, I get it.

Speaker 1: 15:51

Absolutely so yes, it's good work. You're doing it too. I mean, I know about it, but I can't have ever experienced it. I mean I've done oh come on over. Break it before.

Speaker 2: 16:00

How is it?

Speaker 1: 16:01

Yeah, where you at again, where you located.

Speaker 2: 16:03

I mean, I'm in Perseville Virginia.

Speaker 1: 16:05

Oh, yeah, yeah. So um little back back story. So I'm actually close to you, speak from that area, like in Maryland, but now live in Chicago. But yeah, isn't.

Speaker 2: 16:16

Chicago like really crazy and dangerous.

Speaker 1: 16:20

Uh, audit. Well, I mean, where's the spot that you can think of? It's not that way, you know, in any part of the United States. Always, always with the pockets here and there. But where we are, yeah, I mean there's instances everywhere, but you know, I'm not that concerned about that at all.

Speaker 2: 16:38

You should come visit and then you can like people can like see. You can see what I do and then some of my people can. You can help them and see, help them, the older ones, to do something Cause. I'm not really certified, you know, to give people nutrition advice and stuff like that yet.

Speaker 1: 16:55

So if anybody wanted to give me a hard time, yeah, the good thing about you know we'll be around this in this, uh, we're all in the world today I mean first of all since pandemic you can do a lot of these things online. You can have like that, you know, say you know, get a pretty good thing down and give them some outline of what they need to do. It's really basic stuff.

Speaker 2: 17:14

If it works, yeah Well, you know it's going to work for certain individuals.

Speaker 1: 17:18

Again, it all comes down to being consistent, as you said before, and just keep on trying new stuff that works for the individuals. There's a lot of, there's a push, there's a foundation for all of this.

Speaker 2: 17:28

I have people of that won't give up. I have a couple of people that have Parkinson's, and I have a couple of people that have the colonoscopy bag that nobody would take. Um, so you know they're fighters, so I'm going to take them. Yeah, do what I can.

Speaker 1: 17:44

Absolutely.

Speaker 2: 17:44

Like me. They're fighters like me. That's, that's your work right there, so you know just you know I have chronic Lyme disease, so that's another reason I got into this to help people understand, you know to about pain and what to do and not do and all that stuff to help their pain.

Speaker 1: 18:06

So, laura, I read so as your person. So, uh, is there any last things you want to tell the folks out there about? You know how to get better, or some advice as far as like, if they're experiencing anything that they need to do, any last words you can think of that would actually help them.

Speaker 2: 18:23

Well, I believe that it's all over wellness. They have to like, just try different things and definitely massage and you know, exercising, doing stuff with you. Nutrition, because not all of it's going to work for everybody. We don't know what's going to work for each of us because we have different DNA, different body types and everything. But they have to keep trying because of longevity. If you just sit down and don't move and sedentary, then you're going to cause more problems.

Speaker 1: 18:53

Absolutely, absolutely.

Speaker 2: 18:54

I'll just watch TV for 15 minutes. Get up, go walk around the house, sit back down watch TV.

Speaker 1: 19:00

Right Now, I get it Moving for sure.

Speaker 2: 19:03

And yeah, it's expensive to go to other people, but I mean, that's the only way you're going to keep moving. You're going to live longer if you try different things.

Speaker 1: 19:13

It's an investment in your health. I mean, you can pay it either to help a professional like a fitness trainer or someone like yourself, or you can pay it to the doctor when you get ill, and I guarantee you it's gonna cost more. The latter in the latter.

Speaker 2: 19:28

The doctors are gonna kill you.

Speaker 1: 19:29

Yeah, for sure, so yeah. So give it to the doctor, that's what I say is an investment.

Speaker 2: 19:34

I mean something, we just kind of, and I don't think people should be taking all these vaccines because a lot of my clients oh easy easy, he wear a pie cat. Yeah, that's just my opinion. That's just my opinion. What's happening here?

Speaker 1: 19:52

So yeah.

Speaker 2: 19:55

But people like me. It doesn't affect me the vaccine, because my body doesn't do fight or flight anymore with the Lyme disease, so it won't even know anything's going on until you're really sick or something you know.

Speaker 1: 20:08

Right so.

Speaker 2: 20:10

But I did too, I did too, you did, I did, I did too.

Speaker 1: 20:17

I'm not gonna comment on that myself personally, but okay, I'm not happy for you.

Speaker 2: 20:23

You won't have to. I'm not gonna comment on it, right? I'm just saying what I see. You know, but I mean you're only as old as you feel as you like to yourself, get you know. So I just think it doesn't matter, just it's a mindset.

Speaker 1: 20:43

That's all Definitely a mindset, for sure.

Speaker 2: 20:45

Yeah, if people they just need to go slow on all this with what you're doing. Just go slow, don't jump into it, and do it fast, go. So be mindful of everything how they move. Most people cause their structural problems by like sitting and like having a leg under them or crossing their ankles during the day and cutting off circulation, you know. Or holding your arm in the back when you're driving cuts off circulation Just a lot of different things that people do really causes their problems, you know.

Speaker 1: 21:18

Right.

Speaker 2: 21:19

I'll ask them a lot of that how they're sitting, you know, or whatever they're doing to make.

Speaker 1: 21:24

That Is that why two men, male and female.

Speaker 2: 21:26

Yeah.

Speaker 1: 21:27

Does it?

Speaker 2: 21:28

Both Yep Cause men they like cross their ankles, usually when they're sitting all day.

Speaker 1: 21:33

Right.

Speaker 2: 21:34

Or put it under their desk chair. Their legs a certain way sit there cause they don't move. You know you gotta get up and move at least every two hours of it for five minutes, you know.

Speaker 1: 21:45

Sure.

Speaker 2: 21:46

So they probably don't have the right chairs if they're working at home and all that. And right height, it's just ergonomics and structure and everything. But you know the ortho's aren't gonna tell anybody that.

Speaker 1: 22:00

Right.

Speaker 2: 22:01

They'll have them doing exercises and all that crap. So I don't know. But I'm glad you got me on here. I was like he's not gonna get me on here. I'm just not the right fit.

Speaker 1: 22:11

Oh, no, no, I mean. So this is our first episode. So I'm like, okay, you had an interesting approach to health and all that kind of stuff. So I'm like you know, and again, this channel is all about mostly women, but same token, I mean, I'm sure you get women too who are 40 plus and how you can help yourself, cause what happens is like for me. I started because you know my mother, who was basically always helping other people or stuff like that you know, but never really has time for herself.

Speaker 1: 22:43

So that's my whole thing. And women do that a lot, I find, cause I train a lot of women. And they're very, you know, giving when it comes to like other people, but very seldom to take time for themselves. So this was the whole channel basically all about. So how can we help those women?

Speaker 2: 22:58

I get women from 40 to 80.

Speaker 1: 23:01

Right.

Speaker 2: 23:02

So, and men too, 30s to 80, so so, yes, that's what it's all about.

Speaker 1: 23:08

So I thought you were talking about, but it's like it's like me talking to people too.

Speaker 2: 23:12

I mean, it's not just this, it's like talking to them and I think people really need to. You know they want to talk about something or I have to talk to them. You know, say my opinion. They may not have anybody talk to. Where I'm a group where I can have four or five people at a time sit there and talk about how people were raised. Some of them were not treated very well. They think it's normal. It's not normal, you know, to be treated badly. So I didn't know that until I came here to. I was from West Virginia and I came here to Virginia and then I didn't realize until I seen other people how they act and that it wasn't normal the way I was treated In my family. So if I would have never left, I would have never known.

Speaker 1: 24:01

Sure sure.

Speaker 2: 24:03

So one woman came in and she was dressed up and everything one day and I said you look beautiful today and she goes. What I said, you look beautiful today, she goes. Nobody's ever told me that in my life and it's just like really. So you know it's men and women that have been treated like that and they just don't realize it's not normal, right, you know it's not their fault.

Speaker 2: 24:23

So I would just like to do a group and just have people talk, you know about it, or whatever they want to talk about. So help heal, that's the thing. Heal everybody, you know, one way or another, because we can cause problems with our body, with what kind of tension and stress it can come out through your muscles and everything. So you know you can cause your problems. You have a lot of heartache or whatever. You know Sure.

Speaker 1: 24:57

Okay. So, folks, I appreciate you coming. I hope you're watching our podcast. The first one is first episode is visual. That is, we've done a few audio and, laura, thanks for you for contributing to our calls. And one has a great holiday season coming up and stay tuned for our podcast. Get fit methods and we will talk to you or see you in the new next day Awesome.

Speaker 2: 25:29

Awesome.