Big Poly Poppa

We picking up right where we left off—recapping last episode’s patriarchy convo before diving headfirst into the real meat of the episode: polyamory vs. monogamy.

This wasn’t surface-level talk either… we got into the nuances, boundaries, emotional discipline, and double standards that come with both lifestyles. Is poly about freedom or confusion? Is monogamy structure or control? We ask the questions people be thinking but don’t always say out loud.

Then we pivot into a cultural convo sparked by Jack Harlow’s “Monica”—breaking down cultural appropriation, influence vs. imitation, and where the line really gets crossed in today’s music industry.

To close it out, we hit y’all with some rapid-fire takes—quick opinions, hot takes, and wild energy covering everything from EJ Johnson to Afroman.

This episode is funny, uncomfortable, honest, and unapologetic all at once.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_05 0:00

Levels is going great right now. I think that's better right there. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 0:04

Yo, shout out to y'all. If y'all are there, it's a spooky hours for y'all.

SPEAKER_05 0:08

Shout out to the spookiest of ours. That's why they got a black set.

SPEAKER_11 0:12

But for our potters and potters.

SPEAKER_05 0:15

Man, so alright, I'm gonna start the pod in a minute. But I do want to start off by saying, yo. It's over.

SPEAKER_10 0:22

What what?

SPEAKER_05 0:23

The beef is over.

SPEAKER_10 0:24

What beef?

SPEAKER_05 0:25

My silent beef.

SPEAKER_10 0:26

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 0:27

That I've been had on this podcast. Towards a certain group out here. The beef is over, y'all.

SPEAKER_11 0:36

My headphone fell off on accident. That's the Lord. Because what are you talking about? It's over with, man. Please be specific.

SPEAKER_05 0:43

I'm letting you guys rock. I'm letting that group live. Let bygones be bygones. It's white underneath the brace. Because let me tell you something. It ain't nothing compared to the group chats that I'm not a part of.

SPEAKER_10 1:00

So I love it here.

SPEAKER_05 1:04

And these are not anonymous people. These are characters attaching their name and faces.

SPEAKER_11 1:11

Y'all, I did not know.

SPEAKER_05 1:12

These are coming. These are upstanding righteous people.

SPEAKER_11 1:17

So do y'all have a group chat that is similar to are we dating the same person and humble? I'm not even gonna say girl or guy. In this case, I feel like y'all gotta are we dating the same person, people, or I learned so much.

SPEAKER_05 1:29

Oh, I learned so much.

SPEAKER_11 1:30

Is it only dudes or is it women in there?

SPEAKER_05 1:32

No, it's it's it's just a fair uh uh uh uh uh answer truthfully. Yes, it's mostly dudes. But oh my god. It is good.

SPEAKER_11 1:39

You know what though? It is good.

SPEAKER_05 1:41

It's good. I love it.

SPEAKER_11 1:42

You know what I'm here for?

SPEAKER_05 1:43

I've learned so much.

SPEAKER_11 1:45

Okay. Um now y'all feel better. And it's not on the internet, it's like your own barbershop. It's our own barber shop, it's the barber shop. You gotta love the barbershop for sure. Are you dating the same warm and humble?

SPEAKER_05 1:58

We're not calling it that. We're but that's what we're just a group of upstanding brothers looking out for each other. Cool beans, but it's I'm late to the party, but I'm glad that I got into the party.

SPEAKER_11 2:09

Because of my injustice of that, right? It is everybody who's in this group has been posted on there and felt an injustice.

SPEAKER_05 2:19

It's a group of people.

SPEAKER_11 2:20

A group of men who felt the injustice.

SPEAKER_05 2:22

A group of people.

SPEAKER_11 2:23

Women created this because they felt an injustice, right? It's okay for you to say it's a group of men who could be a group of people. Because you didn't want to be included on this, like you told me, your biggest grip. And I gave you this one thing on it, because the rest of it to me is like, whatever, get over it. Oh, yeah, yeah. Um, but the one thing I would give you is you didn't want to be included in the same um conversations as these dudes who actually really righteously wrong. Let me tell you this, like, as these dudes who really aren't about a thing, like they they creepy, uh pervy, they um are are are really bad guys. Yeah, let them hang so what you let them hang. Like, them the ones you you let them hang. You don't want to be in that conversation. Not in that conversation. And that's what you say.

SPEAKER_05 3:02

I do not belong in the galaxy.

SPEAKER_11 3:04

That's what you should stand on when it comes to this outside.

SPEAKER_05 3:06

That's absolutely my whole point, the whole the whole entire time. That's been my entire point.

SPEAKER_11 3:10

Anything else is even the fact that y'all got a group check now is hee-ha.

SPEAKER_05 3:14

Hey, no, wait a minute. I'm new to this. Whatever. This has been going on. I'm just new to it.

SPEAKER_11 3:18

Well, welcome to the club, I guess. I guess welcome to the club.

SPEAKER_05 3:20

I learned so much, man. My eyes have been opening up.

SPEAKER_11 3:23

So now though, so now that y'all got that, what is the difference between that and uh the one on the city?

SPEAKER_05 3:27

It's just people that they're just standing on what they stand on.

SPEAKER_11 3:29

We got uh But what are y'all saying?

SPEAKER_05 3:31

That we that we're not saying, we're showing. It's a lot of show and tell. It's a lot of show and tell. A lot of show and tell. Ah, man. Well, you know.

SPEAKER_11 3:41

You know what though? I don't care. Whatever works. I'm gonna tell you why I don't care. I think it's a good thing. Whatever works for men to whatever works for people. No men in this case, because it started it's not a people thing because this is definitely a people.

SPEAKER_05 3:55

Men didn't do it. I've noticed this for being on both sides of the screen.

SPEAKER_11 4:02

It started with women creating these groups on Facebook.

SPEAKER_05 4:06

Are you guys sure you guys knew the inventor of this? Oh, definitely the invention. Like barbershops didn't exist beforehand.

SPEAKER_11 4:11

But we're not barbershopping, we're talking about online. This is a online conversation.

SPEAKER_05 4:15

No, this is a whole Facebook public group that everybody knows of. I'm in right now, what I'm saying, hold on, hold on. What I'm saying is, I'm in a group of very selective few that knows a lot.

SPEAKER_11 4:27

I love that about you.

SPEAKER_05 4:28

And I've just been, I'm, I'm just, I'm, I've learned a lot. I love that for you. I've seen a lot. Okay, great. And there's a lot of hypocrites out there. That's all I am saying.

SPEAKER_11 4:40

Really?

SPEAKER_10 4:41

I'm a non-judgmental person. Screenshots, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_11 4:45

But I don't even want to know who in the group, but I would like to fact check it for y'all because I am a neutral party on both sides. I'm a little bit. And we appreciate you for that, so I don't want y'all getting some women caught up because it's like how y'all get caught up, women get caught up just like I do. Bro, the worst thing said about you. We can have a discussion about that. The worst thing said about you was that you were back. It's not about me, no, you're not going to be able to do it. I'm not talking about you, but I know other people who've been put into it. Yeah. The worst things that has what I have seen, um, the reason that most of y'all who get caught up with these people, these men who really are like ill. Yeah. E yuck. Yeah. Like red flag. They get posted every two weeks. That's what I'm asking. And I don't even understand why they're ugly.

SPEAKER_05 5:23

Um extra ugly, but you know.

SPEAKER_11 5:27

I get why y'all feel some type of way.

SPEAKER_05 5:29

I feel the most type of way, because I'm cute.

SPEAKER_11 5:31

But at the same time, it's just like, I think it's good that y'all have an out there for yourself. But uh but you also gotta keep in mind that people, a lot of people when it comes to ones like you and a couple other dudes I know who gotta post it. There's always women in there though who do come to y'all defense. They don't take away from what the real issue is, but they do correct where it's uh it's wrong.

SPEAKER_05 5:52

Right.

SPEAKER_11 5:52

Right? Right. So I think it's good y'all got your outlet.

SPEAKER_05 5:55

I'm just, I just learned so much, man.

SPEAKER_11 5:58

It's good you got your outlet. Cut it that down a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 6:00

It's peeking. Yeah, yeah. Let's get to it, man.

SPEAKER_11 6:04

But anyway, besides that, shout out to y'all. Um, shout out to y'all for not being anonymous and attaching the face in the name. I think it's a good outlet for y'all. So y'all got it.

SPEAKER_05 6:15

Love it, tier. I love that. I love that, I love that. Welcome, welcome, welcome to another episode of Matt Podcast, baby. Let's go. It's the play of the podcast, play the podcast.

SPEAKER_07 6:53

Double up now, Mr. Black Land is the only 91 baby no me now. I'm the young one on the middle, it is gonna be to the game.

SPEAKER_12 7:29

Oh baby, baby.

SPEAKER_07 7:44

I like this, yeah.

unknown 7:50

So all the ladies in the place with styling grapes, allow me to lace these different dishes in your bushes, who rock grooves to make moves with all the mama. We go get the bag surviving right now.

SPEAKER_12 8:02

The back of the club, macin' holes, my cruise behind me. Mad question asking, blunt passing, music lastin', but I just can't quit. Because everything he got to creep with, sleep with, keep the app a secret. Why not? Why blow up my spot? Cause we both got hot. Now check it. I got more back than Craigin' in the bed. Believe me, sweetie, I got enough to feed the nigga. No need to be greedy. I got mad friends with bins that see no five layers. True fucking player. Jump in the rover and come over. Tell your friends, jump in the GF3. I got the chronic by the three. Throw your hands in the air. If you're the true player, when you poppy pick, fuck.

unknown 8:48

When you poppy pick, fuck.

SPEAKER_12 8:50

You drive a gun up in your face, please don't shoot up the flood. Why? Cause I feel some ladies tonight. That you may have for my baby bag. Baby bag. Don't get niggas don't forget right now, man. Go get to it, I detroit players. Get the red against the brook line.

unknown 9:15

The headlight, biggie there, and I pop a bent school. This day is the undergoes.

SPEAKER_12 9:19

Never move, never do two, brute, too, too, do something, two up, go, two up, go, two up, wanna do up, two up, square, yeah, proper M butt, close, and but stick to us, I squeeze three.

unknown 9:33

I touch every M3 M3, take that. Take my pizza, take my pizza to the pizza, pizza, take my pizza, take on it. Take a fan of both.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Sometimes the word is hypnotized. Let's go I just love your flashy waist. Sometimes the word is hypnotized.

SPEAKER_11 10:08

I like me come on right here.

SPEAKER_12 10:10

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SPEAKER_11 10:22

I got you can rap a little bit. There's no denying that. If anything, everybody's just like win. When exactly. Where you dropping from?

SPEAKER_05 10:34

Welcome, welcome to another episode of the Mac Podcast. I'm your host. Let's go. Man, welcome to the your favorite podcast, favorite podcast.

SPEAKER_11 10:53

There you go, there you go.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

Thank you, thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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We're here, we're here, man.

SPEAKER_11 10:57

That's what you do. My boy worked on boards.

SPEAKER_05 10:59

Let's go, let's go, let's go, let's go. Let's go. Yeah, welcome to another episode of the Mac Podcast. I'm your host, the Saw the Artist here with the big star of the show, the big K, the Big Tree, Big Chemistry, all recognizable. You already know the vibes.

SPEAKER_11 11:12

Big host with the code. Okay, featuring chemistry with a cave.

SPEAKER_05 11:16

Oh no, no features. He's the star of the show, baby. Let's get to it. We both stars.

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That's how we shine together.

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Hey, I called you the Yangis.

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I feel it. So, yeah, we're here with another episode. I think it's episode 37. We get in there. We get in there slowly. Like, you really come on, come on, brother. We're here, man. Um presented by Room Music Entertainment in uh conjunction with Kou H A L P R K to 94.7 FM. If anybody's up at this time of the hour, then shout out to y'all. But for those who are listening from Spotify, please find us at the Mac Podcast. And you already know, man, co-host, plug in your uh IG page for the folks real quick.

SPEAKER_11 11:58

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SPEAKER_05 12:21

With the KO. Um, shout out to Root Music Entertainment as well, man. You know what I'm saying? This is what really uh got us all here in the first place.

SPEAKER_11 12:29

Never forget.

SPEAKER_05 12:30

Never forget that. So Alright, where are we starting? We here, we here with it, man. You know what I'm saying? Oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Screw all the thoughts, views, and expressions that is heard on this podcast are for entertainment purposes only. Emphasis on that.

SPEAKER_11 12:48

It just ain't nobody else. It's that's you know. Hey, man.

SPEAKER_05 12:51

I understand. I have a way about me. My delivery, my aura just makes you feel the type of way.

SPEAKER_11 12:56

Yeah, Thanos.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

I get you. I understand it. Come talk to me. I'm not scary.

SPEAKER_11 13:02

No, I mean, I think you represent I represent these thoughts, views, and expressions. I think you represent for the males, you know.

SPEAKER_05 13:10

I represent for the people.

SPEAKER_11 13:11

But like I always say, like, as long as, you know, you always you open the people. Well, the people should be thinking. Oh, cold my God. Yeah. You know, if that's actually you saying that, is a great plug into where I wanted to start before we get into anything else. Let's do it. Because I just the patriarchy. The fact that's monogamy. You still feel the same way. Well, monogamous Malik feels that way. That's what I'm saying. Monogamous Malik.

SPEAKER_05 13:35

Monogamous Malik. I know.

SPEAKER_11 13:36

That's one of y'all. Okay, uh remind me.

SPEAKER_05 13:38

Remind the folks who did not listen to the previous episode. Monogamous Malik is out there right now for all those who want to listen to my views on monogamy and patriarchy.

SPEAKER_11 13:46

I ain't going too deep though, because you need to go listen to the last one, but I'll give them a quick synopsis. That's all I'm saying, and then go look it up. Cause you need to learn. Um, but a quick synopsis of he was in my back, yeah. I was in my back. He was being transparent about how he's supposed about monogamy. Capital B H. Um, and I asked him what does it look like to him? And his first answer was the patriarchy. Man runs out. We got past that. We got past that because I was like, you know, emotionally. Emotionally, without all the extra on. Without extra all that. What does it mean to you? And he said consistency. You know what I mean? And do as I say. Um consistency. And he means that consistently. So with that being said, I am done with the synopsis. Uh I'm getting into the nitty-gritty. So you still feel the same on that?

SPEAKER_05 14:39

I feel I mean, it's pretty much like this. So, how I perceive things to be like this, man. Um, I feel like patriarchy is needed. I think it's absolutely um um for us, especially in the black community, for us to really participate back in it because of matriarchy. Because matriarchy has not been a successful process, has it? Do you do you agree or do you not agree? Um just like give it to me straight. Like, who we are going to do. Who we are as a community, how we how we interact with each other. I'm just and I'm talking specifically for the black community as well. And and and other minorities. Like I get it because we are a uh a subject matter for a group of oppressive people who kind of like install the way that things are today. However, I will say, since the man has left out of the house, things has not gone particularly well in the black community, us as a whole. Do you do you do you disagree with that or no? Okay, so I'm just saying, so we see the we see the gender wars narrative. We see the divisiveness amongst us more than ever because we don't have real leaders in the house. So what I'm saying, so like like when it comes to a man, it's just like it's just what it's just one of our duties to to build a house and you know I mean, and just lead a house towards a vision. Whatever that vision is of that man is is up to his own discernment.

SPEAKER_11 16:17

I think you start right there.

SPEAKER_05 16:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 16:19

Whatever that man's vision is, that's up to his own discernment. I think that's a good sentence to stop that. Okay. Um that's why I wouldn't let you cook on it because I I do think this is a real conversation that should be had. Even if it comes out um a little harshly. Yeah. Because I'm I'm a readers. And you know my and shout out to my Lady Beauty who trusts me to know I'll leave them anonymous, but we'll have the conversation and point out things to me that make me just like, okay, well, let me ask this question. So do you know you know the definition of a patriarchy is, right?

SPEAKER_05 16:52

Do we want to get to like the technical term with it, or do we want to just get to just a bit? Like, yes, it's a man-led household.

SPEAKER_11 16:57

Okay, so it's a social system where men hold primary power dominant in political, economic, and family roles, and it's characterized. I got a bird. I got you. See, we got See, we got menners. We did. Oh, it's where men hold primary power dominant in political, economic, and family roles. It is characterized by male-centered, male-identified, and male-dominated structures. That's the same thing. That's the discernment I'm talking about. I'm a most kind of privilege men while marginalizing women. Okay. It does though, because of the gender is is is how rigid the roles are. So I want to go somewhere with this. Let's get to it. Right? Because you see how you just said that, mmm. Right? Now, based on that, you do know we we we're not back in the day with it. So that's what it is. That's what the definition is. The definition has been updated to 2026.

SPEAKER_05 17:50

I feel like with that, I feel like there's nuances in that though.

SPEAKER_11 17:53

I know there's nuances, but we're gonna get into it, right? But I just want you to stick with me real quick, I'm gonna get to it. This this is the definition that was dropped from the time it came out. It's 2026 now. So that's why you said the mm, I think. Yeah, because we've learned so much since then. We know that gender roles don't need it. And like you said, the matriarchy, it didn't work, but it has not been working. It hasn't, that's what you said, it has not worked. That's it. Um, but you it's hard to it's hard to accept that it's not it's not working consistently, right? So hold on, talk, talk, talk, talk, come out. Hold on, let me not, I'm not done. I got you. You see what I did with the word work? I got you. Working, right? Work, working. Gotcha. The work is being put in. A woman can only do what she can do without a male that doesn't want to be there, right? And I don't get it twisted. I said doesn't want to be there, I just said it was you. And then the male who wants to be there is terrible what you have to go through based on patriarchal things, though. Right? It's crazy because men put these rules in like white men did. It was men, though. Men, white men, uh, the the man. Anyway, we're gonna get to it later. That's not that's and that's not where I want to stop at. Yeah, I'm not gonna say it goes deep. I'm definitely not trying to stop that.

SPEAKER_05 19:11

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_11 19:12

My whole thing, like I said, is when you with that, mm, I feel like and I guess that's what I was trying to say. Let's take away the patriarchy, man. We being what and let's get back what matters. Get back to our um how we were raised the core. Uh-huh. Watch this. Um simple things, because you gotta go dumb it down sometimes. In a in a household where there's a man and a woman, who should take the trash out?

SPEAKER_05 19:40

Okay, well now.

SPEAKER_11 19:41

No, no, no, no, no, no. Just follow me. Gotcha, gotcha. Just follow me. That's not for you. This I know this is way below. I know you like this is not where we should go. I know where you wanna go. I promise you, brother. But for people who are listening, because most of these men who are listening, wrong and right, grew up with their moms without a male in the press in the home. So so y'all learning amongst each other what uh a man's uh role should look like based on even these women today. Right? But what about us? We the aunties and uncles, bro. We know what it looked like though, what it would come from, because I even I agree that and I take a masculine role in my uh lesbian journey, you know what I'm saying? Between me and my woman, I'm gonna take and it's the simplest thing, and I say that because most men be like, well, you wanna be 50-50, you take a dress out. Okay. I think that like that's something, though. You see what I'm saying? I see what you're saying. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 20:40

Okay, so like I said, it's um it's up to the determinant, and it's really up to like whether or not men have been paying attention to the narrative of what like patriarchy. We have to learn our failures and where we messed up. But the patriarchy. Let me let me cook. Let me cook real quick. Okay. So I'm just saying, like, you know, like we have seen a system go this way. Like, yes, patriarchy was not a perfect system by any stretch of any imagination, but it was a strong direction going forward. As a progressionist, I cannot ignore that.

SPEAKER_11 21:11

Where did it get us?

SPEAKER_05 21:12

Okay, but all right. Let me tell you, let me cook. So I'm just saying, but like it wasn't like the patriarchy wasn't really established here in the black American culture. You feel what I'm saying? Because it goes back to like, no, it goes back to slavery days. We were treated as breeding animals. No, no, no. So I'm just like, let me cook. Okay, I got you, I got you. I know where you're we can talk about it. I can see where you're going. Like, like just follow me on this, right? But then we didn't know, but we did, yes, yes, but we did have an era, right? The whole um the 1960s, 70s, where we were in an established household. I got a lot of time. We were rising up economically, politically, all this stuff that we were doing in the house. Hold up, hold up. This is based on gender roles. This is based on community effort from everybody, but everyone playing their role to exactly.

SPEAKER_11 21:58

I thought I'm playing their role.

SPEAKER_05 22:01

The man goes out, work, provide for the house, the woman holds down the babies. The man, you know, I mean 10 to the woman, the woman tend to the man, and everyone tend to the kids. That was the system. But the man go out and get the money. The man goes out to get the money, that's what it was. That's it. Nothing else in the city. That's what it was, right? And it was a and it's and things.

SPEAKER_11 22:20

The woman never cheated, though. The man always cheated. Okay, I know.

SPEAKER_05 22:24

That goes to the whole monogamy and polygamy conversation. We're talking patriarchal family structural rules here.

SPEAKER_11 22:32

We're talking, we're keeping it in the So no emotions, just straight up what we're doing.

SPEAKER_05 22:36

No, we're talking about the dynamics are male formically. Because.

SPEAKER_11 22:41

So you do agree that the male should take out the trash? Yes, who? No matter what. No matter what. A lot of men do not agree with that. No matter what. That's crazy work. Well, that's not the gender role.

SPEAKER_05 22:50

And you know how that came to be. These are men who were raised by who? Okay. That's how that's no, because again, real man has okay, no, no, no, time out. Because again, there's two ways. It could go two ways. I'm trying to tell you. Let me tell you, I'm let me let me speak. I got you. There's two ways. There's two ways to do it. There's two mentalities to go about that way. Mama's voice. All right. If a man was raised by a woman, let me let me guess. Look, okay. A man raised by a woman, that woman is usually speaking from a position of power and authority in that household because that's how the boy recognizes who the boss is, right? So this woman is going about presenting a very masculine way, very masculine energy, because she has to play both roles. Because guess what? She's a single mom. There's no man around to do it. Am I right or wrong?

SPEAKER_11 23:39

Talking about how is it masculine for her to lay down the line? Yeah, because that's now her growing up on him and like punching him in his chest.

SPEAKER_05 23:46

That's not your role to be that. No, but it is unfortunate. It feels unnatural to a woman to do that, to treat her son in that fashion. I know that for that.

SPEAKER_11 23:56

To reprimand? Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 23:57

It feels unnatural.

SPEAKER_11 23:58

It's unnatural to put our hands like women, it's unnatural for a mother to do that.

SPEAKER_05 24:02

It's unnatural for a woman to discipline her child.

SPEAKER_11 24:05

But they will tell them, don't do that. Why would you do that?

SPEAKER_05 24:07

It's talking a very nurturing nurturing way. But when it's learning dynamics, yes. Exactly. That's a male's role. Because we're going to male at. Okay. But we're not going to agree. We're not there yet. That's what I'm saying. Patriarchy is important. Keep going. Okay, that's what I'm trying to tell you. So it's just like, again, so say with that psychological effect on a boy, could go that thing could go split two ways. One way be like, okay, then it's all equality. Y'all want this. You know what I mean? Like, I don't have the power to very argue with uh you that much. So I'm just like, y'all want to be equal? Fine, then be equal. No, you take the trash. Versus a boy who sees it and reacts to a different way. They'd be like, dang, I don't want to see this woman getting her hands dirty and struggling with this, something I'm very capable of doing.

SPEAKER_11 24:53

Because my mom would tell me that's what a man is.

SPEAKER_05 24:55

There's two different reactions to that. So then you got the dudes over there who believes on that 50-50 equality. You do the you do the dirty work, I do the dirty work, you're both in the mother.

SPEAKER_11 25:04

Does that do because does that dude have resentment towards his mom? Yes. But the one who says, I get it, I'll take it. He normally does not have a very budding relationship with her mother. He he doesn't have resentment. No resentment. Yeah, it's a budding relationship. Period.

SPEAKER_05 25:19

But she It's a budding relationship.

SPEAKER_11 25:21

Buddy, but she your mom also recommended you without putting her hands on you. I promise you. She made you feel disappointed. You you didn't want to disappoint your mom. Yeah, or you knew you were the man of the house.

SPEAKER_05 25:31

I knew you were capable of not like letting this woman do the dirty work.

SPEAKER_11 25:35

I promise you, the type of one who will take the trash out without a fitting like that and not doing all that is the type that also said, I know that she's not my father, but like.

SPEAKER_05 25:44

My father isn't here, so therefore I gotta break.

SPEAKER_11 25:46

She's doing the best she can forget. She's doing the best that she can. She always made sure you knew you were the man of the house because there's not another man. Exactly. And when Meg came around, they didn't stick she was like, I'm sorry, baby, but just know that they can never take your place. Exactly. That type of mother is the type of mother who breaks men who still take out the trash, bump agenda role. It ain't no 50-50, but 50-50-wise, I don't want to hear nothing about shopping or when I go and spend my money, and then you know what I mean? Like, it's two different types. So keep going. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 26:14

So as I say, there's two different reactions to that. You know what I'm saying? That's that's my whole standpoint. Is that it's up to your own discernment to what it is, but I feel like it is necessary. Then you have those dudes who have who build a very equal um partnership with their wives in these day-to-day situations that we attack. We're in this together. And then you have your man that be like, no, babe, I got this. You can help when you can't, but you can take a little backseat to this because I got this. There's that's just two different types here. And I feel like the type two, the one I'm talking about, like, no, I got this, need to be more of them. Uh-huh. And the reason why there ain't more of them, because there's too many other We're in this together. Equality. Because there's some decisions, there's some decisions that comes up in life. Hold up. Hold up. There is some decision that comes up in life, some situations that comes up in life where a man has to be a man and a woman has to be a woman. That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_11 27:06

Okay, great. I get that. Feel you. But the men who are the ones that you said, uh the ones actually the the ones who should say something and and and can step into I don't know what happened. Oh, it just went out. Uh they can step into like the role, the general, whatever. Um, most of them men bottle it up and don't say anything to nobody.

SPEAKER_05 27:27

Well then these are.

SPEAKER_11 27:27

Time out, time out, time out. You two have been that man, because you one of them. You bottle up and you don't say nothing until you get upset, right? Which is not a bad thing, but it's like I think I can speak, I hope it's a testament to discernment, but go ahead. I'm gonna try, hold on. I don't know why I keep going out. No, I can hear you just fine. You can hear me though? I can hear you. Okay, good, good, good. It's a short on this side.

SPEAKER_05 27:48

Yeah, you can't.

SPEAKER_11 27:48

But I don't know why that it's a thing. I just think that the conversation should be had. Um the patriarchy and matriarchy thing, yes, I get it worlds matter, male or female. You know what I mean? Masculine and feminine, whether you are male, too, whatever you identify. Cause we have to be real. We got people who listen across the board. And I think it's important that yeah, whatever. You know what I mean? On that. But at the same time, I I guess I just saying, um something's just gotta be in you. Like dudes who like, I know I use the trash, but I use the trash because like you'd be surprised how many.

SPEAKER_05 28:25

How many dudes don't want to take out the trash? Yeah, that's crazy work. Like, take out the trash.

SPEAKER_11 28:30

I'm gonna tell you something. On reason I take out the trash is cause my girlfriend is more feminine than me.

SPEAKER_05 28:36

Um But then they have you dudes who not only take out the trash, they'll wash the dishes too. They'll sweep the floors to do whatever they whatever it is who's like well they clean, but they're gonna be. So I don't think cleanliness is a genderal thing. But I'm talking about in the in the terms of like when there's children involved. Like that's where I'm like mainly heavily heavily on. Because again, like you have to create a structure, you gotta create a legacy. You gotta create a female children.

SPEAKER_11 29:04

How does that work then with if you got a a like a male and a female child? How does it work as assessing the gender roles? You're gonna have to like dishes, all that.

SPEAKER_05 29:15

You're pretty much going to have to like be neutral based during the childhood because they both gotta do it, they both got learning about the ways. Okay. As, you know, of course, as we get older, our bodies and our mentality go two different directions. Now we're talking about the entirely. Now we talk about the other thing. So now we can now now we now we're we're splitting this way. And then there's a father that has to teach the son a way and show the daughter the way of what a man is. So a daughter can learn how this is how a man, a man's mind operates. So she could go out throughout her life however she chooses to go out through her life, right? And the son needs to learn, has learns from the father's shortcomings, mistakes, et cetera, et cetera. So he can do whatever lessons that he needs to apply and be a, you know, be what the best version of himself. Well, I got a good question.

SPEAKER_11 30:03

So with that being said, right? Yeah. Uh technically, based on your way of saying monogamy, the best way for it to work. And I got two things on this list with you. Okay. Um monogamous Malik available now. Time out. How does this look, what you just said, right? How does this look if you're a single father with no mother? Because that's how usually how single mothers do. How does that look? How does that work?

SPEAKER_05 30:27

So, so like so in my stance, because again, are you gonna make your daughter? This is a new territory for me. No, no, boss. Boss, this is a new territory for me. I know. Because it's like like as a single father, this it's I don't have all the answers as of right now.

SPEAKER_11 30:41

This is always a bother.

SPEAKER_05 30:42

Because I know as a single father, it's gonna be harder for me to, you know, find that. But say, but say, but say the day. So so in the single, because I've dated single motherfucking because again, I've dated single mothers. So it's just like I came in and I kind of like, you know, embraced that role of like put yourself in the in the situation, like, yeah, I will lighten your burden, I'll lighten you low, whatever you need help with is whatever you need help with. You can talk about it to me and tell me what it is that I need to do because again, I'm still being respectful of your situation, but I am trying to let you know that the option to uh make that burden a little lighter is here.

SPEAKER_11 31:16

I'm gonna give you some real. I'm gonna give you the life bow.

SPEAKER_05 31:18

It's up to you if you want to hop in or not.

SPEAKER_11 31:20

I'm gonna give you some real nigga, real nigga points on this real quick, bro. I know, I got a cape on it. Let me tell you why. Let me tell you, no, no, no, no cape. Uh-huh. Um, it's because I said put yourself in um a single mom's perspective doing it and shoes. And you know what? I'm glad you didn't. You didn't even try to. Because I'm not a single mother. You can't, right?

SPEAKER_05 31:35

I'm not a single mother.

SPEAKER_11 31:36

But you was raised by one, right? Yeah. But you still came out manly. That's why I chose you two lead men with the right. But she gave you the strength, and but you probably were also surrounded by I I was a very observant. But were you surrounded by strong male figures? Or mostly women.

SPEAKER_05 31:54

Not necessarily.

SPEAKER_11 31:56

Not necessarily.

SPEAKER_05 31:56

But I did grow up with examples of men who weren't the strongest examples. However, they did present learning opportunities. The patriarchy didn't raise you. No.

SPEAKER_11 32:07

No, no, the patriarchy didn't raise you.

SPEAKER_05 32:10

My father was not around you.

SPEAKER_11 32:12

But you know what I love about you though? Your mama did teach you how to treat a woman. Whether they your girl, your friend, whatever. You open doors, you you take the lead. You if we're standing, we're walking, me and you, bro, you know you don't gotta do this for me. I'm gonna be 100. You'll make sure that if I walk, that I get pushed on the inside. I do that for mommy. You know what I mean? You do that to me, and I but I know that's what it's supposed to be, general, right? So I think it's a time and a place for role. That's what I'm saying. Of course.

SPEAKER_05 32:41

But it's just like, but I'm but in the grand scheme of things, is this is where like I'm at right now. In the grand scheme of things, to better, again, I'm a progressionist. I want things to get better than where they are right now. But I also would be foolish to not look at the past and learn where we messed up and where we could do better going forward.

SPEAKER_11 33:02

But I don't think you should apply that to the way that you love.

unknown 33:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 33:07

I mean, yeah, I mean, love isn't love isn't a top priority to me, but I get you, I get you. Falling in love is monogamy is falling in love with one person to the point where it's finding somebody that you can do life with. Exactly. That's falling in love. That's not necessarily. That is falling in love with it.

SPEAKER_05 33:22

Love plays a part of it, but it's not the NLB also. I got to It's not the NLB, also, right?

SPEAKER_11 33:27

I didn't say I didn't say it was, but we're talking about monogamy.

SPEAKER_05 33:31

But I feel like I feel like, no, and I feel like respect and trust is takes precedent over love.

SPEAKER_11 33:38

You're naming the qualities of someone I want is a friend of my life, no matter what. No, seriously. Okay. That's a friend of my life no matter what. Let me tell you something. Think about how many relationships you've been through, right? Even before I was in your life. Think about your friendships. Time out though. I don't care though. Even people who did you, and matter of fact, because we listen, we can live by carosely through our friends, right? Think about your homeboys who have been through marriages and babies and divorces. And where have you been the whole time? You were there right there for them for their friends. Because I know a lot of them come to you, central point, right? Of course. And let me tell you something, what what lasted longer than the woman or the who was with them, what what lasted longer? They friend. So when you get them people who really your friend, the term family. You see what I say? Framily. Framily. You know what I mean? Like. That's a bar. That's shit. I mean, that's right, though. You know what I'm saying? So it's important to know the difference. So when you find someone that you fall in love with, you know that they will never make you lose your family.

SPEAKER_05 34:34

Okay. That that part, that part. That's a monogamy. That's that's that's a that's connection.

SPEAKER_10 34:40

That's monogamy. That's connection. Child, we can connect like a plug. Yeah. But monogamy is a plug-up. You can unplug and plug it right back in.

SPEAKER_05 34:50

You can unplug and plug it right there. You can plug, say, plug in for the whole entire time.

SPEAKER_11 34:55

That's polydating single. But when you're in monogamy, you can't go in every plug. Even though you can fit and tear it up, you can't go in there and plug no more. You gotta pick the plug wisely. And the only plug to hit is the plug that you said I'm with.

SPEAKER_05 35:06

Yeah. Exclusively. Yeah, I've done that before. That's monogamy. I've done that before. Of course I know what monogamy is. It's monogamy's Malik. I've done it before. I don't think the patriarchy got the role. But I think patriarchy plays a part of it. You don't like the word. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_11 35:21

Because it's male dominated.

SPEAKER_05 35:22

It's not okay. The word you're hung up on is dominated. It's not even male. You're hung up with the word dominated.

SPEAKER_11 35:27

No, it's the fact that that's what you picked, the minute you thought about being one-on-one with somebody you're supposed to be with.

SPEAKER_05 35:32

Because I'm not even speaking of a dominant. No, no, no, no. But I am saying there is um events, circumstances, scenarios where, yes, it has to be dominated by me. Gender roles.

SPEAKER_11 35:45

Yes, I do feel like so.

SPEAKER_05 35:48

So take it so say women expect men to make the first move. That is a very dominant position to be in.

SPEAKER_11 35:53

I was just about to say one in the same way.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

So I'm just saying, so if you're gonna give us, so you're gonna put us in the position to be dominant, that's what we're gonna do. Dominate.

SPEAKER_11 36:01

But I don't think that's a patriarchy. I just think that's what men's supposed to do. That's gender role.

SPEAKER_05 36:06

Men's supposed to do again, under the guise and rules of patriarchy.

SPEAKER_11 36:10

So you are a patriot. I'm but you want to do the patriarchy. What do you think patriarchy? Come on.

SPEAKER_05 36:17

Come on. Why are you saying patriot and patriarchy? That's just because the word PAT is in it. Doesn't mean it's the same thing. Come on now. Relax. Relax. They're two separate things. Patriarchy is a family unit thing. It's a hierarchy. Patriarchy is a very, I'm dedicated to this country. It don't be a good idea. And my history.

SPEAKER_11 36:44

I want you to take away the word. I want you to take away the word patriarchy and come up with another word. No, because that's malarchy. You just said the definition of it. I did, but it's male dominated. Yeah, it has nothing to do with country. No one ever talks about. It has nothing to do with the country. No one ever talks about the matriarchy. No one ever does it.

SPEAKER_05 37:01

And then we've been matriarchally dominated for the past two generations and look at where we're at right now. We got a bunch of bitch ass dudes running around here.

SPEAKER_11 37:09

Well, get the dude, get the that. This is not my point. I think we need to change the word. Because it's not. I don't want to get into that. I don't. Because I'm on the we're on the same side, believe me. I just want to change the wordplay. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 37:22

I mean, I wish it was a different word for a man, but leading a family or a familiar unit or a relationship.

SPEAKER_11 37:30

I'm about to make you laugh, bro. Watch this, right? And you're gonna film me on this. Anytime I go out anywhere, right? I'm a whole lesbian out here, bro. You see me, I'm a stud. I'm not a dike, I'm not a butch, I'm not none of that. Don't call me that, I'll be mad. Right. Okay, we are not the same. Not the same. Um, I'm just, I'm just gonna like women, I'm lesbi. Anytime I go out, any black man I see who like, I go, not just, oh, cause sometimes you can fit in, I'm an impact, I can fit an energy. But the one, you know, I can't explain. This is who I am. I'm from the side, I'm from everywhere. When I see him, I'll be like, what's up, King? You know what I mean? You know what they say back to me? What's up, Queen? Mm-hmm. So anyone outside of that, and I mean it be dudes who like, that, you know what I mean? Any person outside that see me as a dude, I know they're trying to be funny. I say that because that's a role. Like, I don't try to be nothing I'm at. It's not about what you look like, it's about how you carry yourself.

SPEAKER_06 38:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 38:22

It's about the energy you carry, right? I'm with you so far. You know what I'm saying, bro. Like, I'll do it if y'all not around because that's what I'm I'm masculine in the sense of when I'm around feminine women. I'm the more masculine one. But if it's a dude around, um, trying, I'm just mad, um, feminine too. Hmm, you right? Tell him to take the trash. Tell him to be like, I'll do it, but like, do I want to? No. Like, right. So I do understand the roles and the gender roles. Like, I do. I I I honestly think it's important that it's pointed out. You know what I'm saying? Like, but also I think it's important that we be like, okay, well, people had to do what they had to do though. Like, single mothers is more of a sentence, like, but single fathers exist too.

SPEAKER_05 39:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 39:04

Right? Of course. So it's like the roles matter, but at the same time, a single father needs for a woman to, especially if she won't have no kids but want to be with him, she gotta adjust.

SPEAKER_05 39:15

He might be. I got a hot take about that. I don't think single fathers should be looking for women who don't have kids.

SPEAKER_11 39:20

Yeah, that's the person you find for. She might have to take the trash out because you gotta put a little man to sleep. And he don't like her yet. But the trash tank, cause he he duty.

SPEAKER_05 39:30

Well, you know, do both. So that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_10 39:34

I think that's a good conversation.

SPEAKER_05 39:35

Up to your discernment. Honestly, that's why where my stance is. Do it however you want to do it.

SPEAKER_11 39:40

I think it's more preference. Yeah, the sermon is like bigger than like things people can't see. Like, they're really terrible. You can't see it. You feel good at heart. What you call me, uh what you call out of me. I hate it. I don't uh anyway, positive patty. You know what I mean? When you see good in people no matter what, but you could the sermon be like, yeah, they're they're cool, but they suck.

SPEAKER_10 40:05

And then I'll be like, they they really do suck.

SPEAKER_11 40:08

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_05 40:12

Alright, anyway, we're gonna move forward, dog. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good talk. Good talk.

SPEAKER_10 40:16

It is, it's I think it's a good um, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 40:18

Yeah. It's a good one. Shout out to all the monogamy crew out there, man. All the patriarchal vibes out there, man. Hold it down, dog. We, you know what I mean, you know what I mean? It's gotta weather the storm, man. We're in a mess, dog. We in a mess out here, man. He's dismissing a man's voice out here, man.

SPEAKER_11 40:38

That's not what's happening. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_05 40:41

Dismissing a man's voice. Man, out here paying all the bills. They over here shading us crazy.

SPEAKER_11 40:49

Oh my god, man.

SPEAKER_05 40:52

Oh, man. So what else you want to talk about? This is fun. I like it when you leave it together.

SPEAKER_11 40:55

No, we lead it together. That one we had to start with. That was a good one.

SPEAKER_05 40:58

That was a good one. Oh, so speaking about, you know, sticking your plugs and different plugs and all that stuff. That brings me to what I kind of want to talk about because, again, this is a very fluid, we're examining both sides here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I have been thinking about, you know, polyamory, polyandry, polygamy, and all that stuff, right? The polylides, right? I have my questions about that too, and I understand there are some listeners who do are in that community and stuff like that. I'm just in the mindset of just asking, because a lot of people, especially uh cisgendered um women who are straight, thinking that, you know, the the polygamy and the poly lifestyle, it's all about, you know, being permitted to cheat or use an excuse to cheat. So I just have a question for you, you know, but you know, you are a monogamous woman, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 41:53

So I'm just, you know, for for boy, I'm a lot, but I'm well-rounded, open-minded. Keep going.

SPEAKER_05 41:59

So I'm just saying, like, okay. Keep going.

SPEAKER_11 42:03

I already got some points I want to hit, so please keep go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 42:05

So I'm just saying, like, is is okay. What is polygamy or polyandry or other polylife? What is it to you? What what how do you see it? What is your perception?

SPEAKER_11 42:18

That's a that's a great question, right? But first thing first, I want to do something real quick.

SPEAKER_05 42:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 42:22

And my straight girl's gonna feel me. My heterosexual women, I ain't gonna hold you. Um, that whole cisgender woman is.

SPEAKER_05 42:30

I'm just trying to be respectful.

SPEAKER_11 42:32

You know, you you being respectful to a group of people, and I love y'all. You know I'm one of y'all. I gotta put this in my ear. You know I'm one of y'all, but um straight women don't like being called cisgender. Okay. Because you know what a cisgender woman is? No. A heterosexual woman. Yeah, okay. So we just we we just gonna call it heterosexual. I didn't even know what a cisgender anybody was, C-I-S. Imagine if I've been called a cisgendered heterosexual man. I'm like, it's a it's a double negative, it's not even a positive. Okay, that's crazy work. It is crazy work, and I'm sorry, y'all. Don't double negative me. I know LGBT, don't give don't be mad at me. Okay, but I'm old school with it, and like some things have gone too far. Okay. Okay?

unknown 43:15

All right.

SPEAKER_11 43:16

Cis, anything when it comes the only sis we need to be saying is S-I-S. Okay. If it starts with a C I S.

SPEAKER_05 43:25

No T in Tamara.

SPEAKER_11 43:26

There's no C. I S. That's the only sis we need to be a good idea.

SPEAKER_10 43:34

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 43:36

You think gonna play him, bro? Yeah, it's crazy. You think gonna play him? Because that's a double negative. Cis heterosexual it's out. That's out. Okay, okay. Out the window. And I'm gonna stand on it, don't cancel me. I love y'all. We can do we gotta fight for the things that matter. All right. And we can't we don't like to be um misgendered or like uh labeled. I don't care about that. I know, but I gotta I gotta be real. Or label wrong. So like to do that to heterosexual people, when is this no point in that? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 44:05

I'm a straight dude with that.

SPEAKER_11 44:06

Calling them a sis, and then they gotta figure what it is, and then be like, yeah, that's how I that confused me. Um so anyway, heterosexual people.

SPEAKER_10 44:15

She got a coochie. She got a coochie.

SPEAKER_11 44:17

You know what's it it don't even matter about that. What matters is it's not even matter. Okay, the body parts are mad. You like she's a woman. She likes man. What do you think we're looking at? One, two. I don't care how it's fine. One, two, three, it's gotta be more than one person. One, two, three, three people who have a single focal point. Or someone that they been messing with and they fell in love with or whatever, and they able to come together. Like to be able to bring it, it can happen. But then to bring it together into a relationship. Right? And usually it's one person who is the focal point of it. You know what I'm saying? Like to me. Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 45:34

Yeah, this question is to you.

SPEAKER_11 45:36

Like I said, I've never done it fully. I've seen it happen, but I've never done it fully. Anyways, it's three people coming together and saying that's what we're gonna do. Three or more people and be like, make it work no matter what it looks like.

SPEAKER_05 45:48

And that's essentially what it is. It's pretty much people just agreeing to it's just like just like monogamy. I just don't like the fact how polyamory is looked down upon or just like viewed in a negative sense. Like, I don't like that when there's pokes and weak points to monogamy as well. Like it's all very fluid and it's all very whatever suits you.

SPEAKER_11 46:11

The fluidity of it that you're talking about. Yes, we all can go in and I mean the fluidity is is you can call yourself yourself being poly, but really what you're doing is just um cheating. It's not cheating. You just you you dating, you you you moving and grooving on anything you see fit and they're giving it to you. Like you ain't taking no way. See, that's that's that's not polyamoric. That's not polyamoric, but listen, that's polyamorous activity in the way people think. No, no, it's not. And the way that people think. Now, we know polyamoric. I feel like people's misconceiving misconceiving that. That's just that it is. That's just you out here being a whole whole phase, um, get it, get it, get it, boy, girl, I don't care. That's great. Um, polyamory is when people are in accordance. So that's a difference. That's a difference. People are in accordance with each other. They know. That's like me. If I was in a polycast relationship, it'd be me and two other women. They would know that. First of all, you gotta have one that's just solid. You know what I mean? It's kind of a pimp game. You gotta have your BB.

SPEAKER_05 47:12

Oh, it's a pimp game now.

SPEAKER_11 47:14

It kind of is though with the men set the mindset. With the mindset. And see, that just adds to the negative narrative right then and there, yo.

SPEAKER_05 47:21

That's super negative.

SPEAKER_11 47:22

I didn't say no one's gonna put nobody on the track.

SPEAKER_05 47:24

I said, No, no, I wasn't even alluding to that. I know that's just the uh the emotional mental manipulation aspect.

SPEAKER_11 47:30

People don't know what true, truly what pimping look like. They think that it's uh, oh, you on the track, and I'm beating you. That's not it. It's just a mindset. I am positive pimping. Okay, then pimp, spending your time then. I am always forever. Um, but what I'm saying is the mindset of being able to have this one woman who rocked with you so heavy. And she also, she also open, fluid. Watch this. She also fluid. The one's gonna hold it down. Talk about though, because she's been there. She's seen you up and down because anybody else you bring in, it is um It's a vibe. Hopefully. But it's a you don't know what it's gonna be until it actually be.

SPEAKER_05 48:10

Okay, true story.

SPEAKER_11 48:11

This is polyamory, though.

SPEAKER_05 48:12

We're experimenting, we're no, we're going through this process together.

SPEAKER_11 48:16

Isn't it polyamory? Right. That's how it's supposed to be. Because you gotta have one. We're going through this process together. So with that being said, the girl come in. Okay.

SPEAKER_05 48:23

Even the girl who's coming in gotta uh gotta go into the room.

SPEAKER_11 48:26

What she gotta know off top.

SPEAKER_05 48:27

What she gotta know off top of this is a process. This is a faith-based process.

SPEAKER_11 48:31

Like, we together, but we want to say that.

SPEAKER_05 48:32

This is a faith-based, we're building connection programs. We want you. And you want others, you want us both. Mm-hmm. So we all want each other.

SPEAKER_11 48:42

So now it started off lustfully. But no, no, because see, that's why everyone thinks that's see, I don't like that.

SPEAKER_05 48:48

Everyone missed because you like it to be a purely sexual thing. Come on, man. That's crazy work. Like, oh yeah, polyamory. We just all having threesomes all the time.

SPEAKER_11 48:58

No one said that. I didn't even say that. It's nuts. Why do you think that any attraction anyway?

SPEAKER_05 49:02

A lot of people think that way.

SPEAKER_11 49:03

Because that's the truth. Why does that truth? I'm not talking about polyamory.

SPEAKER_05 49:07

I'm not talking about pyramid. You say threesome. Say cracking each other. You said lustful.

SPEAKER_11 49:10

No, hold on, no, no. I'm talking about you.

SPEAKER_05 49:12

It's not lustful.

SPEAKER_11 49:13

Baby, baby boy, baby boy. I don't know. I okay, say this, my girl. We outside. We know that we want to bring a third in. We want to try it out. We want to see. Okay. We monogamous, but we want to see. We can be poly.

SPEAKER_06 49:26

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 49:27

Okay, we go outside, we find a girl that we like. Um, how do we like her? Because I want you to keep up. Don't say anything. Keep up. Anybody I've ever met, bump my girl being there. Anybody I ever wanted, it didn't start because the minute I looked at her, I knew her whole life story. I knew she was a good girl. I knew she. No, I seen I was like, damn, she bad.

SPEAKER_05 49:47

Attraction plays a part.

SPEAKER_11 49:48

I gotta know her.

SPEAKER_05 49:49

Attraction does play a part.

SPEAKER_11 49:50

I gotta see what she mm.

SPEAKER_05 49:52

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 49:53

Damn, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 49:54

No, no, you went, you went to depth with it. I gotta know her.

SPEAKER_11 49:56

That's lust. Lust doesn't know.

SPEAKER_05 49:58

Lust doesn't take you to knowledge. Lust doesn't know. Lust know.

SPEAKER_11 50:01

Lust brings you to wanting to know who they do you know what lust is?

SPEAKER_05 50:04

Do you know what lust is? Do you understand what lust is? I know what lust is.

SPEAKER_11 50:10

Okay, so every girl you ever met, you just knew. So what made you want to talk to any woman you ever talked to? Oh.

SPEAKER_05 50:15

I'm so glad you asked that question. Because it wasn't lust. It was not lust. I want to know. It was.

SPEAKER_11 50:22

I'm so serious.

SPEAKER_05 50:23

Curiosity.

SPEAKER_11 50:25

Curiosity killed a cat.

SPEAKER_05 50:26

Yeah, well, I've been killed. I got you know what a cat is. I died seven times. I got two more lives in me. Look. I got two more lives.

SPEAKER_11 50:34

So you seen her and you just like she's not pretty. She's not none of this. She's not dick. No. I see something about her. Do do do do do.

SPEAKER_05 50:41

See something about it, I'm like, I can't put my finger on. I gotta know. So you don't see her face, her body, no nothing. The vibe is questionable, and I need to know what's going on.

SPEAKER_11 50:50

No, no, no, no. Answer my question. I'm letting you know. You don't see the body, like her face, her body, no nothing. You look past all that. The menu look, you Doctor Strange. I look all the strangers. Smooth past all that. Okay, y'all remember this. Anywho, I don't clip it up. I honestly have nothing to say that we are not the same. We are not the same. We are not. I'm different, yeah. Because when I see a woman, I think all women are beautiful. I love, I see it before. All women are beautiful to me. So therefore I look past the beauty. Time out, can you be quiet? But when I see something that I want, let me tell you something.

SPEAKER_05 51:22

Even when I see something I want is if I want to know. It's a me. I'm trying to explain to you my process. It's just me wanting to know my process is the main drive. It's not luck.

SPEAKER_11 51:32

I know her, but the one thing I want to know is to know her. So if I can get close enough to get that twerk, smell it suit. Because if you look like that, what you smell like? And uh if I can get you close to it. What you feel like? If I can get you close enough to get to the city. What makes you smile? What makes you frown? No, I don't care about that yet. I just want to get small. I care about all the things. Let me tell you why, because I'm just meeting her. Um I'm curious to what makes you do it. I need to know what is your name. Oh, see? And do you feel the same about me? Lus. Okay. You ain't might you might not even be into what I'm into, but you think I'm cute enough that you want to like flirt back? That's what I see. Lus Lee's, man. Sydney and Freud told no lies on that part. They got a little disgusting incest, but that joint isn't right in the science books. That's crazy work. I mean, you know what, though? You might be an anomaly. I am so. Monogamous Malik. Well, get that. Big polypapa.

SPEAKER_05 52:23

Anomaly Malik. Anomaly Malik. Big polypapa in the building. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is how Big Polypapa works, baby. Yes, sir. Yeah, I just want to know who you are, first girl. You know what I mean? But you want to know too big. You can be fine, you can be thick, you can be cute, you can be all of that. I don't care. Who are you?

SPEAKER_11 52:45

You know what you call this? Deserving or delusional? Because you sound delusional. I don't sound delusional at all. Wanting to know all this in the beginning when you've never even seen her before.

SPEAKER_05 52:55

There's a lot of people I've never seen before, and I be want to know what you tick. Every single one. I'm curious. Every single one.

SPEAKER_11 53:01

I'm curious. Every single woman.

SPEAKER_05 53:03

I'm curious. So the ones that Whoever wants to show me who they are. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 53:11

Do you know who I am?

SPEAKER_05 53:12

Do you know who I am? Yeah. My name is Malika Sad King. I can do whatever the fuck I want. I don't believe it. What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_11 53:20

Because the main part is. It's not that you can't do it.

SPEAKER_05 53:23

This is not what you're going to do, though. You're not. I'm going to do whatever the what whatever it is I want to do. You're not out loud with it. You keep everything quiet. Okay, I moved privately, but that doesn't mean like uh what's what does that have anything to do with anything? Monogamy. Monogamy means you can that's your relationship with that one person and you guys going about that life what it is. No, no, no. And polygamy is you making that same choice with multiple people and you guys going about life as is. You don't need to present it out to But how do you meet these people?

SPEAKER_11 53:52

Because you said it's not lust.

SPEAKER_05 53:53

It's not lust. We're having a conversation. How you doing? They use, and then I told you, they used to come to me and they're talking to me. So whatever their drive is, it's their drive. So the if you're driven by lust, if you if you see this mountain chocolate of a man and you want to hop on, that's on you. So you don't look at her.

SPEAKER_11 54:10

But my thing is nothing. I look at her and be like, who is she? You don't be like, she is so beautiful. Of course. I'm not blind. But you know what, though? I don't care about it. I don't care about her beauty or her booty. Because I want to know.

SPEAKER_05 54:24

Because you know how many fine ass women.

SPEAKER_10 54:26

No, no, do you know how many first time I've done a few years?

SPEAKER_05 54:28

You know how many fine women be garbage human beings? But do you think you're kidding me?

SPEAKER_11 54:32

How do you get her number when you think about it? Are you kidding me? This motherfucker becomes a big thing. It be the finest one, be the most terrible people. But I be trying to drop one. They be terrible people. He be trying to drop deep lines and deep. That's crazy work that y'all don't operate with. Why she don't understand where I come from. Because you're too deep. I just met you. You too deep to sleep.

SPEAKER_05 54:49

Wait me up too deep to sleep. I'm just getting to know you. That's it.

SPEAKER_11 54:52

Is it?

SPEAKER_05 54:53

That's it.

SPEAKER_11 54:53

Because how you gonna get to know me and me ask for my name, but you want to know my deepest, darkest secret. Nah, who are you?

SPEAKER_05 54:59

Like, who are you?

SPEAKER_11 55:00

You too deep to sleep.

SPEAKER_05 55:01

What do you mean too deep to sleep? You're gonna tell me your name.

SPEAKER_11 55:04

You even ask. You wanna know what's on my mind and my body and soul.

SPEAKER_05 55:09

I gotta know your name first. But you didn't ask for that. But but a name is not your beauty. Your name is not your beauty. It's where we start. It's who you are.

SPEAKER_11 55:16

So my name don't matter.

SPEAKER_05 55:18

Your name matters. Because that's who you are. Who are you? I'm such and such. I think we should be. Hi, such and such. How do you what's on your mind? We're gonna put a pin. Big polypapa, man. That's what he works on.

SPEAKER_11 55:30

I'm telling you right now, we're gonna put a pin on this because this is gonna be an ongoing conversation for a minute. Um got another question about polygamy, though. Okay, but we're gonna put a pin on that one. I don't wanna ask. I'm done with that. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 55:41

Come on, man. Shoot. We out here. Nope, because I'm done. Look beyond what you're doing.

SPEAKER_11 55:46

I hope you go back and listen.

SPEAKER_05 55:47

Look beyond what you see.

SPEAKER_11 55:49

Keep going.

SPEAKER_05 55:49

Look beyond what you see.

SPEAKER_11 55:51

But you know, it's not about that. It's about you admitting that you you start off in a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 55:55

I start off in a very curious, curious state. It's curiosity.

SPEAKER_11 55:59

That's why it killed the cat.

SPEAKER_05 56:01

Hey, I got two more lives left, yo.

SPEAKER_11 56:03

Feel me? Cat got nine lives. You already don't waste it because you just won't see what it is. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 56:09

Wait, what do you mean we'll see what it is? Oh, okay. So like say say I operate. Say I operate Malik. Say I operate in a very lustful state. How far is that gonna get me?

SPEAKER_11 56:18

It's not about lustful state. It's about the state.

SPEAKER_05 56:20

How far is that gonna get me? How's that gonna separate me from the past?

SPEAKER_10 56:23

Who won't even admit that?

SPEAKER_05 56:24

If I'm over here just lusting after you. You literally five, fifty, hundred, hundred twenty, two hundred, a bunch of dudes out there doing this thing on the same type of time. You don't do that. Bunch of dudes who are attractive, a bunch of people who are attracted to you who are coming at you in a lustful state. I'm coming at you in the curious state, and I'm the weirdo. Crazy work.

SPEAKER_11 56:43

It's not that you're the weirdo. I'm crazy work.

SPEAKER_05 56:46

Me giving a fuck about who you are.

SPEAKER_11 56:47

You're just not being as a person.

SPEAKER_05 56:49

You can't even get to the nitty gritty. I'm looking past the titties in the ass.

SPEAKER_11 56:52

I'm not gonna.

SPEAKER_05 56:52

I'm looking at you.

SPEAKER_11 56:53

Okay. Crazy work. I'm not even gonna lie. I'm villainized for that? You're not villainized. Big polypapa's a bad guy for that.

SPEAKER_05 57:01

How's that not being real?

SPEAKER_11 57:02

And maybe you are, but it's That's being a realist.

SPEAKER_05 57:04

That's your realist truth.

SPEAKER_11 57:06

My truth is I see people who put it in the world. Because you when they open their mouth. But let me tell you something. Any woman that I've ever been like, shh, hold up. Wait, it's cause I seen them and something about them. I'm telling you, zilden. I'm I don't mm. I need to know who that is one way or another. I gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_05 57:26

Big click energy.

SPEAKER_11 57:27

You know what I mean? Nah, big D E. Ain't no big clip. B D E B C E. I don't give a shit what you call it. I don't give care. I don't care. It's just big energy. It's big. Big energy. But but that's you, you you for you to say that's not lust, that is lust. I don't know you.

SPEAKER_05 57:40

But now it changes because I we've seen so many circumstances and stories where lust took you to the boats. Terrible places.

SPEAKER_11 57:51

Okay, so you you had a girl that walked by that was ugly as hell, and you just like, I want to get to know her because she walked by and something about her caught me.

SPEAKER_05 58:00

Crazy word. That's crazy where you're saying that's crazy what you say.

SPEAKER_11 58:04

You're a liar.

SPEAKER_05 58:05

Say, say, say set up the girl came and talked to me.

SPEAKER_11 58:08

I'm like, uh, who are you? You're going to text me and be like, don't she look like Snoopy? He's a liar. I don't care. Say it with your chest. I'm not a liar. You're a liar as far as that you won't admit that you are lusty.

SPEAKER_05 58:22

No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_11 58:23

N R DNA. You get past it, and then you get to know what you're saying.

SPEAKER_05 58:27

Attractions in our DNA.

SPEAKER_11 58:28

That's what makes you attractive. I'm not attracting, I'm not. Listen, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_05 58:31

Attractions in our DNA. Lust is a sin.

SPEAKER_11 58:35

So it's gluttony. So is greed. Is a sin? Chubbo. I'm a child of God. We're gonna move me too.

SPEAKER_06 58:43

In Jesus' name.

SPEAKER_11 58:45

John 316. I wish a nigga would. Malcolm X, 1200. This nigga tripping. Martin Luther King, 1020. Oh man. I got a dream, I got a dream. This nigga be lusting, but he won't tell the truth, so it's cool, team. Amen. I'm a man of curiosity, yo. And that killed a cat.

SPEAKER_06 59:05

The pussy.

SPEAKER_11 59:06

We got five more lives left. Alright. And see, that's just the patriarchy. That's what the patriarchy do, man. Okay, but I got more questions about polygamy, though.

SPEAKER_05 59:22

I only got a couple more. I got a couple more. I got a couple more, man. Okay, let's go. Because you know, this is where my mind be going sometimes, alright? So do you think because from what I'm gathering from the previous episode, it's all about money. I think money plays a role in both aspects.

SPEAKER_11 59:39

I do agree with that.

SPEAKER_05 59:40

I feel like if a man or whoever the main person of interest is, if they're coming with a bag on them, it would make the polyamory lifestyle a little bit more acceptable.

SPEAKER_11 59:51

That and monogamy.

SPEAKER_05 59:53

And monogamy.

SPEAKER_11 59:53

Honestly, I agree with that because they don't want, no one's gonna want to say this. They're gonna be like, well, well, some people will actually. You know what I mean? I got this girl I follow, Melani, shout out to her. Um say something about uh, you can you can a woman out of her mind and she still turned on you and she reposting and was like, yeah, because that don't get me paid. Like having sex with you don't get me paid. Yep. So like, yes, money matters.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:19

Money matters. In both aspects.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:21

But I think it's stability, it's stability matters in both aspects. In both aspects. I mean, even more in the poly world, I think, because you are taking on more of the woman.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:29

Big polypapa comes through with a bad thing.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:31

Well, you gotta come through with that.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:32

Both of y'all get that soft girl life.

SPEAKER_11 1:00:34

Well, no, the thing is you gotta provide them with the security. Yeah. And then hopefully you got to. You gotta do the same thing monogamy, too. You got one, yeah, yeah, you're right, though. You're right. Yes, you're right. You got one, two, three, though, with poly that like hopefully they like do their own thing and like build more money. But it's the same thing in monogamy. I agree with that. I do agree. I think.

SPEAKER_05 1:00:52

Whoever's leading in both relationships, go back to patriarchy. All right. That's not a big movie.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:02

That's not patriarchy.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

Yeah, man can't have the bag. I don't care what it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:08

Gender roles.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:10

If the man has a bag, if a man has a bag, he'd be like, yo, you can live whatever, you can be in whatever relationship you want. You get if you have a bag on you, if you have a bag on you, no, you can't kill me. Because you disagree, money matters with both aspects. I'm a group. So I'm just saying, you can't kill me. If a man got a bag on him, you whoever can make follow any program, the bag is saying.

SPEAKER_11 1:01:30

Period. Because what about the women who have two men, polyamory? Because that's a real thing. Polyandry. Whatever. I don't, that's your job to keep it correct. I'll look it up. Polyandry, I guess that's when it's a warm thing. It's a real thing. Okay, great. But what about it's the same thing in different ways? She got the bag? She got the bag.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:46

No, that's not the case. Oh. Because the men out there working, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_11 1:01:51

She got the bag and they're not. She don't got the bag. She got the bag. She just that fine two dudes would be like, okay, we got it. That's the difference. That's the difference. Oh my God. That's the difference. Okay, next question. That's that's that's that works in monogamy, too. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 1:02:06

You're just talking about lust and shit like that. It's the same thing.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:10

You literally just said, yo, no, no. Am I wrong or right? Correct me. A man with the bag has two women. That's that's how it's supposed to be. He gotta have the bag. Gotta have the bag. But then a woman with the bag that has two men.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:25

It's the looks. It's the attraction. It's the lust.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:28

It's completely different. It's the lust. Oh, now lust comes in.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:30

It's the lust.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:31

It's not lust for you, though. No. It's not lust for the man. It's not lust for the man. Because the only thing that changes is the genitals. Yep. Not the gender. Not the gender. The genitals.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:39

Yes. I wholeheartedly agree with that.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:41

So then y'all should rot with transgender men who like women who get to dig. I don't know anything about that. That's out of my bag. That's out of my wheelhouse. But the genitals matter.

SPEAKER_05 1:02:51

But I'm trying to tell you. But two. Whoever is fine and like when it comes to polyandry, she's fine. Two dudes gonna be like, alright, we can work with this. We can work something.

SPEAKER_11 1:02:59

But then two dudes, when she decides she wants to have sex with all y'all one time, y'all in the same room. It's the same way with the two girls, but it's a difference because of the genitals. Okay, bet. Anyway, next question. Okay, I'm just saying. I want us to listen to this one together after this. Uh next question, because that's why I work, and that's why you're a walking contract. You're a walking print up. I'm not a weak. You a walking patriarchy. I'm a walk and print up as crazy. I give you I give you props. He got green, red, and you know the Jamaican black people.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:34

So, my last question. I'm being mad.

SPEAKER_11 1:03:38

I gotta go.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:38

I literally wrote down a ton of these questions, but I'm gonna make it more. Because that's what I do my free time, yo. How many make swag mad? What questions can I ask?

SPEAKER_11 1:03:50

It takes a lot these days, so you know what? Oh, man. All right. I won't you can get me mad, but you won't get me bothered.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:57

Alright, so I got one last question. Do you think society is hypocritical about polyamory? No. Oh! Why cheating exists for a reason? It's not polyamory, though. Oh my god. It's not.

unknown 1:04:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:13

No, you're crazy.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:14

Well who building a polyamorous relationship didn't finish.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:18

What's one of the one things that would end a monogamous relationship, Swag? What's one of the topics?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:22

We're not talking about monogamy. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Cheating on your monogamous partner is not poly.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:29

But like I'm attracted to the person. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:32

Y'all did not understand.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:33

I'm in love with you, but I'm in love with you. Oh my God.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:36

Why is it so hard to understand? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:39

Why is it hard for you to understand?

SPEAKER_11 1:04:40

You wait. Why is it hard for you to understand? Let me finish. Why is it so hard for you to understand? You got a woman. Yes. Right? Yes. Who loves me.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:51

I love her too.

SPEAKER_11 1:04:52

She says I rock with her too. What's this now? Tell me, let me finish. She said, babe, we can do anything you want under the sun with another woman. I just gotta be a part of it. Okay. Okay? Okay. Everything y'all do it. You see, she's not lying. We we good. You see, and she keeps going. Y'all keep going? The girl gone, you raise her back. I don't see how any man would back out of that situation. Go ahead, Lamila. I'm gonna let you go. But then the minute that you do it without her being there.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:16

That's greed.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:17

And she gets upset.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:18

That's greed.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:19

And she gets upset.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:20

That's a man's greed right there.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:21

Okay, that's the greatest.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:22

Because why are you out here sneaking when you have those green lights?

SPEAKER_11 1:05:25

Because that's what happened. But that's what you literally do.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:29

But sometimes if that's not the case. That's what the case sometimes is.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:33

That's the only way for it to go wrong.

unknown 1:05:37

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:05:38

With two women who are with a man, a heterosexual male, and doing whatever he wants, whether even in and you cool because you, like I said, I hopefully, but you I don't think he will be. But like they get along, they coexist. Y'all do y'all thing when y'all together, everything, not just sex, but everything under the moon, right? But then when you're not around, they still can rock and do their thing, and then when you come home. You just jump it back in. That's polyamory. Cause y'all could y'all communicate it. Boom. That's that vibe. That's beautiful. Swag surfing. You know what I'm saying? Swag and I'm surprised. They treat you like the male you are. You know, they do their thing that they treat them like the women they are. You massage them and all that. Hold it down. Right? Cool.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:17

Double duty. Cool. Big polypapa vibes.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:20

That's that's that's what I do. But that's in a perfect world.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:23

Right? That's poly. But what happens when one of them steps out without you, or both of them step out without you?

SPEAKER_05 1:06:31

Then that's a conversation to be had.

SPEAKER_11 1:06:33

That's cheating either way. Because that's the same thing monogamous-wise.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:37

So it's a hypocrisy. So I feel like whoever's gonna be against so so wagging their finger at polyamory, you're being a hypocrite because it could work either way. In your monogamous world, cheating exists. In a polyamory world, cheating exists. So why are you so being hypocritical how some people want to go about their relationship compared to how you want to go about your relationship life? Why are you being so hypocritical?

SPEAKER_11 1:07:03

It's not hypocritical. It's hypocritical as hell. It's not hypocritical. Cheating is different. If cheating is a factor. Let me finish, because this world poly is different.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:11

If the thought of another woman being involved is such a great or another male, whatever.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:15

Anybody involved. Polly is different because that's they don't see cheating until the conversation. If the conversation never occurs and it happens, and they just like, oh well. Well, that's cheating. Polyamorous relationships, they exist because this happened, and maybe this could be somebody we bring in. Or it's a conversation. In a monogamous relationship, if that type of behavior occurs, that's cheating. Because y'all said exclusively.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:41

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_11 1:07:42

You said exclusively, it's me and you. And if we won't bring someone in, we would always say me and you. So if you did anything without a me and you and this happened, you cheated. You know what I need? That's monogamy.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:53

I need a monogamous person and a polyamorous person to hop on this podcast and really explain to me the difference.

SPEAKER_11 1:07:58

Well, I would bring both of them on female. Bring both of them on female.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:01

Because I need it. No, because I need I need the clarification because I feel like it's hypocritical. You think I feel like society's being hypocritical.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:09

You can't see one of those. It's a hypocritical thing. It's hard to separate what I'm saying though being on one.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:13

And here you are lusting at uh uh other people the whole entire time. But you feel like you're holier than now because you're not acting on your thoughts and temptations. That's nuts to me. Those are people. Because if you're a monogamous, you wouldn't have those thoughts and temptations. That's a definition of monogamy. That's a definition of the same thing. That's a definition of monogamy.

SPEAKER_11 1:08:30

Okay, look it up, look up a monogamy. No, no, listen, listen what I'm saying. See, see, listen, watch this. Look it up. You listen, watch this. That's a definition of a big thing. One person. And one person only. Okay, listen, I hate to do this, but I'm gonna have to do a twin. Me and you, we're in a relationship. Watch this. Uh, I don't think you're ugly. You don't think I'm ugly. Right? Uh we get together, we put it out there. Everybody know. Yeah. This is monogamy now. We didn't decide we're gonna be exclusive. Right. Right? I can't get mad about anyone liking or DMing you because I didn't get with you because you was uh the same shit, birth by vice versa.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:04

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:04

Now if you feel some type of way about that, we need to discuss it. Right. But if you think it should it's gonna change and I'm gonna get off of the internet, we're done. Okay, but say we get past that, keep it moving. Now, we now decide we we freaks. We done we swore more, we know each other, we know every now and then we like to bring in somebody in, okay? Okay, we done a couple of times, uh, no problem. But then this last time, she goes off the rails a little bit because of the the the woman, because you ain't gonna bring another dude in. The woman that we bring in, now she like, she playing both sides.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:38

I feel like the situation is very similar to what we went to.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:40

Well no, no, no, no, no, but it is because we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:42

But saying someone playing both sides.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:44

But this is but you know about it. But someone is playing both sides or aware.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:47

Yes.

SPEAKER_11 1:09:48

How you handle that?

SPEAKER_05 1:09:52

That is a very good question. Very good question. Has nothing to do with me. That has nothing to do with that. Polyandry is the same thing a different way. That's monogamy. That's that's being that's a lack of communication, that's a lack of trust, and that's a lack of transparency right there.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:08

It's the same thing a different way. We just decided how many people we added. Monogamy, one. Uh, unless we decide. Polyandry, polyamory, whatever you want to call it, we know it's gonna be more than a trial. It could be a tribe. It could be a whole tribe. It could be a tribe. Now, how do we handle that?

SPEAKER_05 1:10:23

How do we handle the tribe? And that's where the conversation has to go.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:26

And that's where poly and monogamy changes. Yeah. Period. Okay. All right. But it all starts with lust.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:34

For 99% of y'all. Or a mega brainer. Unless you are one Malika Sad King who is curious.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:40

This guy a little based. And that's why you can't, you can't.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:44

I don't do look in front of you.

SPEAKER_11 1:10:46

I don't think with the I think with the head on my shoulders, not the one between my legs and all the wrong brain spaces. Humble county, man. Music break time. Yes. And then we're gonna change it up. We got some good stuff. The world's been worlding. So we got some good. This is good though. I love it. Music break, man. This is crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:11:24

Hey, we're gonna be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights. We do it freaking. Double the pleasures, like double the fun. How many leagues does it take to the center of a looter pop? Double the tongue, who knows? First, I gotta undress them, caress them, bless them, say to keep them guessing. If that doesn't impress them, it's slow to move off to the neck and lesson. Whoa, panties dropping, body rockin', macum's poppin'. It's eight cheeks and both titties. Y'all better hand me something. Hey ladies, whoa, no more, get ready, get sent. Play for hours in and out the shower. This bitch power, we niggas go. We gon' be havin' some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaking. Yeah, we gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaking. Grippin' his teeth, 30 toes a curl. What in the world is going on to the brig and break it on with that man and them girls? Cause three hearts are beating fast, but only two people screamin'. We comin' together for one cause. Other than hear ourselves breathing. Get in the game and start working it out and digging it out. I lean to the side, throw a dig in them out. You gotta get in the groove, you got nothing to lose, so don't move till you figure it out. And keep making that face while I'm rubbin them spots. And we can take turns while the other one wide. And see how good she be taking them shots. And wake up the hood to the colour them top. We gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we doin' freak it. We gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it, freak it. And I'm ready to wrap it, you can get your tools, and you can start the ignition. Then I'm grabbing firms, wigs, weeds, ponytails, and extends. Not the mission is gonna get hot. Better come ready to put it. I make women come harder than the boozy dead. And I'm willin' to bet that I've been keeping it wet. Cause I feel you a little bit of ring in the neck, it won't kill you. Put me on the top of the bottom and I'll drill you. Given how you wanna to get it to Mophilia. And I'll peel you back to back. If you're ready for the Mac attack. They got me thinking it's the Macaback. The way they bring in it from back and second. Hey, we gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaky. We gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaky. We gon' be having some fun. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaking. Cause two is better than one. Somebody kill the lights, we do it freaking.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:01

Oh my god, drive any glasses.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:12

I'm out of control when I'm crushing on you. You know what I'm trying to know when I'm touching on her. H town nigga love a bit of baby come here. I'ma grip on your Y'all niggas ain't got nothing to say of what you gonna say about her. I know I pull up a spray or I don't play about her. Y'all know I'm full of lady, I don't gonna stay around her. Mommy catch the spray, or I go crazy about her. Uh I wanna get it in. Uh, I wanna get it in it. I be going fresh print fast with my crunch with my crack. I need me a kicker. Get it squiggly bit in the squeaker. Oh my baby girl, I should. Oh my baby girl, I shouldn't get a I'ma control when I'm crushin' on you. You don't tell me no when I'm touching on her Face, nigga love a bit up. Baby, come here, I'ma grip on ya. Y'all niggas ain't got nothing to say, oh what you gon' say about her. Y'all know I pull up the spray, or I don't play about her. Y'all know I'm finna go late, yeah. I don't gon' stay around her. Call me catch the crazy, or I go crazy about her. Oh, they just take the chance on me. I'm out of control when I'm crushing on you. You know what's coming up when I'm touching on her. It's time a nigga love a bit up. Baby come here, I'ma grip, I'm ya. Y'all niggas ain't got nothing to say. Oh, what you gon' say about her. Y'all know I pull up a spray, oh I don't play about her. Y'all know I'm finna go late, yeah. I'ma go stay around her. Call me Cassius Fate, or I go crazy about her. Oh I go crazy about her.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:32

Yo, holier than thou we host. Sorry, the artist, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:17:40

That goes into our next one.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:42

What's up, what you got for us?

SPEAKER_11 1:17:47

Uh the church. And then the dead hath. Of course. And the preacher to preach. And then everything. In order for that part of it.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:07

That's crazy work. And it kind of highlights why religion is really a scam.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:13

And they say they tie from the painful, you know what I'm talking about. Yeah. So it's like, what are they paying for?

SPEAKER_05 1:18:17

What are they paying for? What have they been paying for this entire time?

SPEAKER_11 1:18:20

And that's why we Your mortgage, Carno, your suits. I mean, you're paying for this pre-day.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:26

Your wife's dress, kids' schools.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:28

Yeah, but you don't even you you're taking away from that to pay to the preacher man.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:32

No, no, no, no. The preacher man's taking all that and paying and buying the houses and telling you you should get that.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:40

You deserve that.

SPEAKER_05 1:18:41

You deserve that.

SPEAKER_11 1:18:41

What if you took them ties in? You can get that. You can get that. But make sure you get them ties and offerings. Yeah. 10%. Right? But when you die and you no longer here. Now we can do free two. No, no, no, no, no. You got them. But you gotta pay an extra 800. So my 50 plus years of ties and offerings didn't cover 800. Nope. And this is why. You covered my mortgage for 50 years? Shout out to Millenator March. My people who are seeing. We're gonna be spiritual. Literally. But we don't have to, we don't have to the religion, we know what we need to know.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:20

We know what it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:21

We know the good books, we know the good words. We know we know what to look for, we know the stuff. I know what time it is. We do, we do, we do because it's embedded in us. But outside of that, it's time that we get out there. We take the pulpit from the church and put that thing right where it belongs in the streets.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:38

When two or more gathered in my name. Alright, moving on. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:19:44

Okay. Honestly, I could drop the mic, I would, but it'd be too loud.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:49

Please gather in the name of the Mac Podcast. I'm here. Yo, yo, Reverend. Please, please come over here. Yo, Reverend and Saudi artists in the building. Yeah, yeah. Well, well.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:05

Well, alright.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:06

Alright, man. Let's talk about um neo-Nazi. Um, I mean, uh let's talk about uh most definitely not. Let's talk about what are you talking about? Um what's what you throwing me? January 6th in park. Let's talk about your boy Jack Harlow.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:33

Because everything else threw me until you said January 6th. What else is it part? Right right before. Right before Black history month. Because he feel an extra blacker. January 6th and part data, bro. Oh my god. Okay, all right, all right, all right.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:58

Love Black Twitter, man. Love Black Twitter.

SPEAKER_11 1:20:59

I I love, you know, right now, when all the things happen in America, I'm just loving the comedy that we are getting. Um that being said, Jack Harlow.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:09

Yeah, so for those who don't know, uh but should definitely find out.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:14

Uh don't find out. I mean the album's not. No, no, talk about. Watch this, watch this. No, it's not that good neither. It's definitely not for him to feel like he's black. John B would slap you with don't listen to what people say. Oh my god. Turtleneck B, um, Monica know Brandy Lewinsky B.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:34

No, I see the shit called.

SPEAKER_11 1:21:35

Charlie Kurt Franklin. Not Charlie and Chalk the factory meet Kurt Franklin. Cause that's all I thought. But but honestly though. Okay, hello. We gotta gather our thoughts. We gotta gather our thoughts. We gotta we gotta gotta we don't know because because you know what though? It deserves every giggle, laugh, that's it.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:00

It does, but it also has a serious tone to it, too. That I I I kind of want to address.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:05

Well, I think we should. I I'm gonna let you go ahead. I'm I'm gonna tell them what it's about for those who don't know. Um and I I do think our listeners who the sun doesn't make darker should go in because you allies. And like maybe if y'all speak out, he'll get it. Um it's one thing to appreciate our music and our culture, right? And we let we let white folk in all the time. We do, you know what I mean? Especially once we feel okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:28

With that being said, stop with the cookout invites.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:31

Oh, child, because Jack Harlow messed it up for all of y'all. Gary Owens, you are known by me. I'm done.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:36

I'm over the cookout invites.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:38

Okay, because if you're not gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:39

This is my plea to the black community to please stop giving out advice to the cookout.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:43

And you know what?

SPEAKER_05 1:22:44

Stop it. I don't want to see not one more comment on any social media platform saying such and such is invited to the cookout. No, they're not, because ours.

SPEAKER_11 1:22:56

Because they make they make an album and a song or something called Monica, and then like make a video with them in a turtleneck working down New York streets and say that they got blacker.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:05

So two white reporters that, by the way.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:07

Oh, yeah, yeah. They didn't even go into a uh but black at uh black behind room. They they went to two white reporters and said, and and honestly, no, no, he did sit down with two black dudes. I did see one um podcast joint, and they laughed at him like they should.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:23:19

Um, but he said he got blacker with his joint, and and for him to even say that. Sir, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_05 1:23:34

You want me to go? Please. I feel like, and this is like on a serious tone, because maybe that that whole comment just kind of like opened the floodgates to like what I've been observing over the years. But this has been like, you know, kind of like the caveat, like the the the the straw that brought the kid back. I mean, it's it's it's the dangers of cultural appropriation for me. I mean, like, I'm not gonna tiptoe around this one. I mean, like, why is it that black cultures only cool when black people aren't the ones that are wearing it? You know what I mean? Like, let's I mean I need to talk about it like some words. Like braids on black kids distracting, braids on influencers is transcending. Right. Or slang or it's ghetto or unprofessional, but the same words get flipped by somebody else, it goes viral. They get brand deals, they get TikTok checks. So I'm like, what are we really saying here? It's like, is the culture valuable and just not the people?

SPEAKER_11 1:24:26

Nah, brother. It's it's a it's a um that's this is one of those history repeats itself things, right? We it is up to us. Honestly, this is a call to us. Like, we gotta take back ours. Like, we do, and we do in a great way. But but the same way we attack, uh, like the same way we went crazy for Bad Bunny. Right? I hate to use it, but I'm gonna use it.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:52

Same way we went all in for Bad Bunny, but we were supportive of the vibe, but we were.

SPEAKER_11 1:24:58

We were much louder about it, right? And Bad Bunny didn't say nothing he about taking on about he didn't feel blacker doing that. No. Right? He didn't say none of that. We were frightened for him just because of his right to fight to do what he did. To do what he but then Jack Carl says something like this, and I promise you, if I see any of you women at his tour, I'ma spam all your accounts. I'ma put you as spam. Because what do you mean if you're a blacker? Please explain that. And I promise you, he's gonna say, uh, I went out there and it's gonna sound so crazy, but it's uh he fetisized. Like, I promise you, he got a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:34

So there's a lot of white men out there, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_11 1:25:36

Exactly. But the it's the difference between fetishizing and honestly, this is what it is. You like what you like. Because black men like white women, it's not a fetish. So then, hold on, time out, time out though. You you say the feticizing, right? It goes for black men looking like and white women too, then, right? Yeah, it goes both ways. Um then isn't fetishizing a a form of lust.

unknown 1:26:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:04

So it only works though in that dynamic.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:09

To an extent.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:11

Alright.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:11

But going back to where going back to where we were talking about, I'm not, I won't go nowhere else with that. I just want to answer that question. But but so I just, I don't know. I just hate that he said that.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:21

I hate to say that, but like to like finish my thought real quick.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:23

I feel like he was gentrifying blackness.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:25

And I think that too, that's where it gets dangerous to me because like, you know, cultural appropriation isn't just copying, it's just selective respect. I mean, like, they'd be out here one in the rhythm, one in the style, they want in the sauce, but they don't want nothing to do with the struggle, the history, or the discrimination that comes with it. I mean, like, and let's be real, like, a lot of y'all don't really know what it even comes from. You know, I mean, y'all just saw it online or you saw it on your homie, or you saw it on the block, you just ran with it, and now you benefit off it just because of somebody, some uh something somebody else got judged for, you know? I mean, that's not appreciation or appropriation, that's exploitation. It is I feel like it's a cultural exploitation.

SPEAKER_11 1:26:58

It is, especially when a whole lot of people who don't look like us tell us that we should stop saying it so much.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:03

Uh okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:05

But you but so can we feel wider? Can can you drop our album and be like after doing this? Man, I like John Lydon and Elton John. I feel wider. The Beatles.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:16

Oh my god, I feel wider, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:18

I feel wider, man.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:19

Dude, dude.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:19

I feel more in tune with the white.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:21

Dude, I literally just jammed out to Blink 182 the whole entire Bro. I I feel Green Day. Bro, I feel so much whiter. I feel so much whiter.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:31

Can we say that?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:32

I waved to a police officer today.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:33

And they didn't even pull me over.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:35

I feel the whitest shit.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:36

Actually, they did pull me over, but I was like, Dude, I paid my bill on time one time, dude. Like, I literally just dropped that album and I feel whiter.

SPEAKER_05 1:27:44

My credit scores is in the 700, bro. I feel so much whiter. Okay. Come on now. All right. I mean, and like and I think we did that. So it's just like, but like, but going back to it, man, like, why do black creators have to fight for recognition while like, you know, the others get Rewarded for the imitation. I mean, why is our culture, costume, the sun, but a problem for us? And what and at what point do we stop calling it influence it and start calling it what it really is? That's the exploitation.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:13

That's the question right there. See the other the other questions is questions of the time. But at what point do we see it for what it is?

SPEAKER_05 1:28:22

And start calling it out for what it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:24

Call it out and own our stuff. Go at them when they wrong. Blow it up. You know what I mean? Like um, I mean, our things is jokes.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:32

We do jokes, we do the memes. Yeah. I mean, I saw a cover who he said uncommon when the cover would be. I mean, we got jokes for days, but we gotta start calling it out for what it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:42

But we gotta get more professional with it.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:44

We really do, because like if they could profit off our culture, but we stay silent when black people often disrespect it. Then we're not doing that. They're not they're never really rocking with the culture, man. They were just using it.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:53

Yeah, that's real.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:54

At some point.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:55

That's 100. You know what I mean? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:56

But that's just my thoughts on that subject, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:28:59

I think while on that subject, because that's music, right? Music stuff, I do want to shout out on this part of it, uh, rap stuff. Shout out to Trap Dicky, South Carolina in the building, signed into TDE. Hey. You know what I mean? Ken Lamar, Doche, all of them. So if you don't know who he is, look him up. Like, I'm really proud of that boy. I know his cousin, shout out to Nay. She should do dope videos. So, like, South Carolina build, because there's always some crazy stuff about us.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:26

Do you think, um, do you think social media has ruined hip hop a little bit? Yeah. I mean, like, you know what I'm saying, like virus songs like killing the real artistry, like, you know what I mean? Like, it's or just yes. You know what I mean? Like, because this is not a new way to discover new talent.

SPEAKER_11 1:29:42

It's so hard to discover. It's not a new way, it's so hard to discover new talent. It's so much talent, but also the gate key I'm glad the gatekeepers are out the way, right? But we still have to have AR. We still have to have people to put you in the right rooms, um, in front of the right crowds. You know what I'm saying? Now don't get twisted. If you can take your music and be in front of any crowd, then you are a crossover above, like, no matter what artist. But every artist isn't like that. Does that mean that they're not great? No. That just means they have a lane. And so ARs are important. I feel like promo um marketing that is important. But social media kind of provides all of that. And then you got AI, that's like literally just taking it and doing whatever. You know, seriously. So, you know, I think the biggest um I think musicians, though, our job is just to use what it is. You know what I'm saying? But I will tell you the problem, the content creators versus the journalists.

unknown 1:30:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:51

Elaborate on that.

SPEAKER_11 1:30:52

Right, so a lot of content creators nowadays, they are also influencers, right? So they get influenced. But they're not journalists. They're not, because there's a difference. But they get invited to the same rooms. Huge difference. Watch this up, but they get invited to the same rooms. As these journalists, it caused a little bit of confusion and but the journalists who got into that room, not content creators, they actually had to go in to the trenches and get the truth and risk their life or whatever to do it. So I think that's the difference. I seen someone saying, um, I told you about it, Tabitha Brown. Uh she's in a, I guess, a journalist room, and so they asked her, like, you know, um, like, do you see it as a problem that journalists had to fight to get in these rooms and y'all just getting in because you content creators, you know? And she was just like, you know, I do get why they would be upset, but ultimately her answer was it is what it is. Which made me think though, well, we gotta get to the nitty-gritty, like journalists, what do they have to do? It's the one thing to make them a journalist. They gotta fact check. Fact check, quote they sources. It gotta it's gotta be the nitty-gritty. It has to be factual. Exactly, and actual.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:02

Factual, not speculation.

SPEAKER_11 1:32:05

Content creators, what do they do?

SPEAKER_05 1:32:06

All speculation. All personal preferences, all um at your own discernment. Like a journalist has to report all the facts from all sides. Right. And if they want to interject their own uh perception of it, they have to do so at the end. At the end. But the primary like the the prime the primary um thought process is give people the facts of the matter here. And I feel like, you know what I mean, like, and I don't I I hate the fact that people are using content creators and uh as factual news sources. Like you were talking about um Jason Lee, the other we're talking about. Is he a actual journalist?

SPEAKER_11 1:32:47

Well well he is though, because let me tell you though, he's an actual journalist content creator, which is where I was gonna go, because I feel like content creators, if you are going to be in the realm of trying to drop uh news or whatever uh ahead of time, then you should actually know it's real. Jason Lee, if you pay attention, he doesn't say allegedly. Most of the times when he drops something, he's been in the room. Or he'll bring it up and then has a person who told him about it with the receipts in the room, right? Okay. So he does have it, because he's older as well. He has a journalistic approach to content create. He didn't come on as an influencer, he did Hollywood Unlock, he was kicking it with the Kaddashian, he was just in the right place at the right time. All the mess was happening.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:30

But he has a journalist degree.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:31

But he has a journalist journalistic degree. Credential.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:34

Does he have journalistic credentials? No, I'm not to look, but he has an aspect of because he's definitely um uh because being at the right place at the right time, knowing the right questions to ask, but being in separate and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:44

But he's a part of the political movement down there.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:46

Yeah, but you have to have credentials.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:48

But he does, because he always, I'm about to look it up and make sure. Okay. But that's what it is that's the separate. That's the separation. That's the separate. It's credentials.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:54

And credentials is important.

SPEAKER_11 1:33:56

And I do think it's up to the people to keep in mind, yeah, it's cool to have one, two, maybe three, uh content creators. Yeah. But in a room that's supposed to be full of journalists of people who are dropping real news, they shouldn't say. It needs to take prevalence. It should take prevalence. Because it's it can't be a dying breed.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:17

Nah. And then sadly enough, it is.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:19

Because of social media.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:22

But how do we know about them people who go on the front lines and and really show us what's happening?

SPEAKER_05 1:34:27

And we don't because they only got like 700 followers.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:30

But watch this though. They go on the front lines and they show what's happening. And they and those are journalists. I'm like, they like, I wrote about it, but y'all don't read no more. Unless it's on Reddit. Um, or it's a whatever drama. So now I'm here and I'm showing you the footage, and then I get adopted. You know, and instead of people being like, dang, this is a real social issue, they just repost it and say what they would do how it wouldn't be.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:54

Or they clip it up and they jerk their own personality.

SPEAKER_11 1:34:57

Or just say how it wouldn't be them and do like a skit on how they would have got away. Exactly.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:01

Exactly.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:01

But it's somebody's life, so yeah, that's a scary place.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:04

It's a scary place out here, man. But um, yeah, I mean, that's crazy. Oh, speaking of Jason Lee, Gaynics. You heard about your boy EJ, EJ Johnson, right? I don't know if my boy or my girl, so. But uh No, I mean, it's like uh because I was scrolling um on the websites on the Facebook out, which I reminded why I don't really hop on Facebook. I love the scroll. Um apparently E.J. Johnson said he only dates straight men. For those who don't know, E.J. Johnson is Magic Johnson, the great Magic Johnson.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:41

Daughter. Daughter, son, daughter. Allegedly, listen, I don't know if they probably know. I don't want to get.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:48

Oh, I just know he is six foot seven and he has uh penis and testicles.

SPEAKER_11 1:35:54

They are feminine presenting six foot seven. But still masculine on you know. Six foot seven. Just like uh their daddy. Crazy. But say that they only date uh straight men. They like stood on their business. So I'm like, okay, well, shout out to all the DJs.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:09

I mean, you know, I mean that's your community.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:12

First of all, child listen, I done told you. And I told them. Sometimes something don't make sense. It don't make sense. It don't make doubt. Because you don't date straight men. You don't know. I don't have to see what I don't have to understand you, but call it for what it is. I date men who think they straight. Let me say this. Or you date masculine by band. No, you date men who think they straight. Let me tell you why he says straight men. This is where the DL community comes in. The DL, it's a real thing, though, bro. Why you think they call them trait? So you think that it's not a real thing that's true. No, it's a real thing. Some of y'all artists, homeboys. I hate the fact it's a real thing. It's a real thing. I hate the fact that it's a real thing. That's all you say.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:51

That's all I'm saying. I hate the fact that.

SPEAKER_11 1:36:53

And that's real. But that and but it comes from somewhere. But that's all EJ was saying. You know what I'm saying? Without saying it.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:59

That's a matriarchy, but go ahead.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:00

Whatever. You said it so backwards that it caused a conversation, but like you just they, anybody that's with uh EJ that's straight. You're not straight, bro. They're DL. I'm just telling for everybody looking around. Or hey, embrace your biness. I mean, at this point, it's 2026. It's 2026, bro. No one cares.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:20

But you're not straight. Just I don't.

SPEAKER_11 1:37:23

Your mom's not gonna start talking to you. You know what I mean? Um, you're good. You're good, bro. You're good. Golly. So the EJ don't say dumb sh like that.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:32

Only they straight, man. That's craziness. That's craziness work, man. Um, one more quick music break real quick, and we will be right back to finish this thing. Oh, I'll be just about a song, man. You know what I mean?

unknown 1:37:47

Hey, what?

SPEAKER_14 1:37:51

This is the shit that my daddy had raised me on. Niggas got let off the features I skated on. I gotta know, I gotta know. How you get let off the nigga, you hating on numbers untouchable. They got the data wrong. This is the moment I know they've been praying on. What? Try not a boy out, but fuck it, I'm staying on. Oh, keep on sending me slash to go crazy on board. They keep saying it's time to be patient. There's so many people. We turning the tables on Capo got plans, but we'll say that for later on. Hush and keep saying they know that they play their wrong Katie. Just test what the fuck are we waiting on? Me, I'm expressionless, niggas be talking about don't shoot a messenger. Five, you get shot for we lessen. Here, none of you pussies that blockin' my blessings here. What? Ardi's just throwing success in your face. All of these baddies obsessed with my face. All the shit they don't address in my face. I can't be showing no stress in my face.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:34

No face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face. No face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, I don't get sleepy off no melatonin.

SPEAKER_14 1:38:58

My therapist put in a 30-day notice, cause I keep on talking about beefin' and business and money and women there's no diagnosis, they empty the crap. I'm just so happy that niggas who envy the hell that shit ain't got to finally show it. I'm over the moon. Yeah, we'll see you boy soon. I'm spreading my wings, I have a cocoon, I'm studio trapping, I'll loudin'. What is just throwing success in your face? All of these baddies obsess with my face. All the shit they don't address in my face. I can't be showing no stress in my face.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:28

No face, no face, no faces, no faces, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face, no face.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:42

Alright, alright, man, get that out of here. Get that smooth out of here. We backed weird.

SPEAKER_11 1:39:52

No face. I can't hear that. I can hear you. It's a little short. There we go.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:04

Alright. Alright. So, we're gonna close this thing out, man. Is there anything else in your hearts and minds that you wanna share with the people?

SPEAKER_11 1:40:14

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:20

Amen.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:20

Let's get to it.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:21

Uh, we blessed. Afroman.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:23

I think that's how we did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:27

Shout out to Afro Man.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:28

Okay.

SPEAKER_11 1:40:29

You know what he did? Cause I got another sneeze, bro. It's allergy season. Okay, I'm good. So Afroman, as y'all know, he got raided for uh, they said he was kidnapping and drug trafficking, broken his gate, came to the crib, didn't find nothing. He had a lemon pound cake on the table that his mama made. Um, they went on through this man's stuff, didn't find anything, broke all his stuff up, even cut the cameras off, had to put middle fingers up. So what did he do? Uh, he had to get recouped. He went to him, try to get his money back to get at least to pay for what they broke, they didn't want to do it. So, you know, he's an artist. So what did he do? He dropped music and videos with actual footage. First amendment, right? Um, showing them what they did. And well, lemon pound cake, I brought that up. Because the dude, he was a big scurvy fat dude, came in, and when they didn't find nothing, you see him, he stops and he stares at the lemon pound cake like he wanna slice. Well, Afro Man made a song about it. This man said he had to quit his job on the stand after watching the video again, uh, because he got sent over 300 lemon pound cake.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:36

Oh fucking.

SPEAKER_11 1:41:38

It's another dude who uh was married by interracial, uh, had a mix starter, lost his wife, uh, he made a song about an Afro Man and proceeded to insinuate he was the uh father of the whole thing. Anywho, they sued him for defamation and they lost. Of course. He won. Of course. And well, we love that.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:05

Happy melanated March, y'all. It's very rare to see that. Happy melanated March. Man, whoo! Wait, we we we smoked this episode, y'all. I know that. Um, next podcast, we're gonna do uh introduce a new segment. I need somebody here. I need a third person to play the judge for a toxic court because I'll pick the judge. Yeah, okay, all right. Um, we're not gonna do delusional deserving this uh this one.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:32

Is it anything else? Oh, Aja Wilson. I get I gotta give a shout out to Michael.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:35

Oh, shout out Oh, shout out to Michael B. Jordan. Oh, yeah, for what we gotta do shout outs. Shout out to Michael B. Jordan for uh smoking the Oscars got that best lead actor.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:48

I hate that they keep doing our boy Del Roy wrong.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:51

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:42:52

But you know what? He is a great within all of us. Yeah. Um I draw Wilson, she got the biggest cap for the WNBA 1.4 million.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:00

And I and that's still less than the rookie minimum in the NBA. But hey, hey, one step at a time.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:08

2026 was doing Bam drop 83 points. One step at a time. She got that. Uh who else? Uh is there anybody else on that?

SPEAKER_05 1:43:16

Uh shout out to Bam scoring 83 points.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:19

I mean, we already gave it to him.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:20

Oh, did we? Yeah. That's why.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:22

Oh, we did. I think we did, didn't we?

SPEAKER_05 1:43:24

No.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:24

Oh, no, we didn't. And shout out to Bam for the 80. Yeah, we did because we ain't got no proof of Wilt doing a hundred. Oh, factual.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:30

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Supply the footage.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:33

Um, you know, y'all, y'all. Thank y'all. You said we had a thousand downloads.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:39

Oh, yeah, man. Thank y'all for listening. Uh, thank y'all for the downloads. The downloads are the that's that's where we get the that's where we can that's where we can get some things started here. Yo, a thousand? Appreciate y'all. Crazy well. Appreciate y'all.

SPEAKER_11 1:43:51

Keep telling the friends, tell the brand. So next time I talk, please keep sharing two thousand.

SPEAKER_05 1:43:56

Keep sharing these podcasts. I see it. I appreciate y'all. Um thank you for appreciate y'all. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Mac Podcast. I hope we enjoyed listening to this podcast as we did. Presented it to you. Um, again, man, thank you for keeping us in your thoughts and prayers. I guarantee you that you are an ours. And you know what I mean, folks, man. Just don't let the victories be the end all be all. And don't let the losses be the misery, man.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:27

There's lessons in both. And there's beauty in both. And we gotta keep being progressionists. We gotta keep going forward. But we gotta learn from our mistakes from yesterday at the same time. And that's why patriarchy is important.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:43

Oh hell.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:44

My name is Malika Saw King, and I endorse this message.

SPEAKER_11 1:44:48

My name is Kim and Tree with a K ends in the tree. And listen, child, we'll talk about this next week. Bye. Bye. Good night. Don't feel we out. Don't feed.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:03

So please put your ears and close your eyes. Otherwise, you're about to witness. I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:00

I'm gonna look at Benjamin. I'm gonna be full of things. That's why you don't do the blue man. That's why you'll do the phone.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:11

What do they talk about? He don't eat beef and he don't eat pork. He looks so tall. I said, girl, I told you he was short.

SPEAKER_11 1:47:20

Man. I love that nigga.