The M.A.K Podcast
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The MAK Podcast — Too real for the faint-hearted, too funny for the boring.
Welcome to The MAK Podcast, the audio equivalent of kicking down the door to a late-night hangout where nobody pretends to behave. It’s music, madness, and mouthy opinions — all thrown into one glorious, unfiltered chaos. Expect Hip-Hop/Rap, R&B, and Alternative tracks that slap, paired with conversations that definitely weren’t cleared by any legal department.
We’re talking social and political commentary with a side of sarcasm, sports debates so heated you’ll think someone owes someone money, and life philosophy that might actually fix you… or break you. Either way, you’ll laugh. Probably too hard.
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A How R.U.D.E Throwback: Doin’ The Most
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A How R.u.D.e Throwback: Doin’ The Most
We’re taking it back to the foundation.
In this special throwback episode, we revisit a classic from around 2020 featuring the original Big 3—Asaad The Artiz, Traac, and Nada Clue. This was a time when everything was uncertain, the world was shut down, and the grind didn’t stop. In the middle of a global pandemic, these artists were navigating the early stages of building their music careers with nothing but vision, hunger, and resilience.
Expect everything that made the show what it is today—jokes that still hit, real music conversations, stories about local legends, and most importantly, the origin and creative process behind the track “The Most” by R.u.D.e.
This is more than a throwback—it’s a time capsule of ambition, creativity, and figuring it out in real time.
Tap in, take that trip back, and hear how it all started.
Be sure to follow @thamakpodcast, @rudemusicent, and @nadacluebeats for more content—and stay locked in, the dynamic duo returns next episode.
Welcome back everybody! Hello. Yo yo. Oh, is that a third voice here, man? Like uh we we got somebody back? Somebody stuck in the wall or something.
SPEAKER_04There is. The angel in the outfield. What's up?
SPEAKER_03Hello, track.
SPEAKER_11I feel like people forgot what the fuck you sound like. We had like Gilbert Gottfried on last week. It's just a big thing.
SPEAKER_04They couldn't, they could never forget me. My voice is too uh too memorable.
SPEAKER_03Too memorable, huh? That's how you feel? That's how I feel. Alright. Yes, yes, yes, yes, y'all. Welcome back. Welcome back to the How Root podcast brought to you by Root Music Entertainment. I'm your humble and highly underrated host, Asavi Artist. And as you may have heard, we have somebody come back from the dead. We call him Ghost. He is back from a very, very long hiatus, but I'm I'm so excited for him to be here with us now. Of course, we have not a clue right here on the ones and twos.
SPEAKER_11Aka Tony Tenderfingers.
SPEAKER_03I'm the side of the artist, aka Teddy Two Strokes. We're out here going through RB millions in case his rap shit don't work.
SPEAKER_05Track is Richard Ringfinger. You know.
SPEAKER_03Yep. Oh god. Oh shit. Let's get to the pod, man. Hey, uh, real quick, man. Shout out to all the listeners out there. Um, I did not know there were so many people tuning in. So it's been weird. It's it's it's dope. So I really want to thank each and every one of you guys who has been listening, following from episode one to now. First time listeners, welcome. Last time listeners. Last time listeners? Yeah, man. Hey, some people be like, yo, this is it. I'm done with this show. I don't know. I really don't know people like as well as I thought I did. So, you know, fuck me, I guess. But uh no, it's dope. It's dope.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, it's been it's been uh weird reception and be hearing people that listen, you're like, how do you even know about it? It's been strange. Hey man, that's me.
SPEAKER_03That's me promoting this shit, bro. This is why people know I'm doing my fucking work on my end.
SPEAKER_06So it's the push too. I mean, I think with the uh obviously I took a little hiatus there, but I think with the uh the episodes and the features and obviously getting that exposure, other people's fans involved, and you know, obviously getting their their people involved and listening to it. That helps too. But it's been dope. I've been I've been gone, but I'm not gone. You know what I mean? I've been watching the uh the analytics and keeping up with the numbers and shit. And it's dope to see it get gaining popularity, like you know, where we all sound kind of funny about it, we didn't expect it, but it's dope. I'm I'm glad y'all are listening.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, man. Just keep it known, keep it known. For two or three that gathers in our name, we are with them. So thank you, and we appreciate y'all. All right, so uh now we're back, the gang's all here, the original trio track. What the fuck you been up to, bro? Like, how's life been treating you? How's your mental health? How's the vibes?
SPEAKER_06It's good, it's good, bro. Just uh been working, keeping my fucking head down. You know, I've last time we talked, I think, staying out the way, you know. Last time we talked, I was I'm still in school, you know, going strong with that. I was working on a video game, sounds for a video game, doing some editing right now, vocal tuning and shit, just going through learning all this shit as far as engineering goes. Uh, but yeah, working this new job. I was in Phoenix for a little while, working out there, came back, started working here, just grinding, getting ready for this little girl, this little uh my baby about to be here.
SPEAKER_03Congratulations, congratulations. Do you have a name already? You have a name?
SPEAKER_06Uh we got some we got some ideas. I won't I won't put it out into the universe just yet. You know, I like to I like to see people first. I meet no, I want to meet her. I want to meet her first before I before I decide.
SPEAKER_03Quick, quick. I know you have like an idea or two like in your head swimming already. You're just waiting to see her to name her, but I know you got like an idea or two in your head, like, yeah, this is gonna be her name, but this also be her name.
SPEAKER_06No, no, no. There's so many. There's I mean, there's there's a solid few, but there's none that we're stuck on, you know. It's no same way I was Kamala Cooper. I'm not mad at that Kamala Cooper's actually hard.
SPEAKER_05That's pretty cool. I'm not mad at that. I'm not mad at that either. It's actually pretty hard.
SPEAKER_03You're welcome. Yeah, little KC. So if her name turns out to be Kamala, she hears his podcast. Yeah. Yeah, not as the one who named you.
SPEAKER_04Exactly.
SPEAKER_06Lance. Not a clue, not a clue. Um, no, we got we've got selections, just you know, it was the same way with my son. We we had so many different choices and so many different directions we could go with the name. And as soon as I saw him, I was like, oh yeah, that's that's Donovan for sure. You know, I just knew it. So there's a list, we got a collection of names, but you know, I don't want to run y'all through all of them.
SPEAKER_09Okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, we are excited to meet her either way.
SPEAKER_09Yes.
SPEAKER_03So what else what else been up to, man? Just uh music-wise, been grinding in creative mode, like what's happening there?
SPEAKER_06You know what? Um, creative mode, I'm always in creative mode. It just comes in, it comes in waves for me. Um I I definitely you know ride larger waves at certain times than I do others. I feel I feel creative all the time. I've always got ideas swirling through my head. And you know, I can sit down and write a song any day if I wanted to, but I will I like to, you know, you know how I am. We've worked together long enough. You know how I am. I like to dedicate valuable time to my to my craft. So I spend a lot of time sitting down when I've got a few hours to really dedicate and get creative with it. So I wouldn't say creative, creatively, I've slowed down. I'd say, I'd say I've stayed at kind of at the same pace. It's just at different times now, you know, adjusting to the new schedule and having to uh prepare for the new baby. So I know I don't get to just go in the studio whenever the hell I like to now. So um, but no, I've been, I've been, you know, we just put out that song. Me and uh, me and my boy James, shout out James Boy, James David. Um, we just put out that new song, The Realness, which came out fucking dope. I was it was way better than I expected.
SPEAKER_03And it was a really good track. It really was a really good song.
SPEAKER_06It really was, dude. And it was it's so raw and real, like it didn't need anything else than it already had, but I forgot about it. Like he hit me up about that song like six months ago, uh, you know, close to around the time I first moved here. And I wrote the verse, I recorded it, I sent it back to him, and and I just forgot about it. And he hit me up like a day before it was out, about to be released. He's like, yo, we're about to drop this song, we're gonna do promos for it. I'm like, oh shit, I forgot. So I I started listening the same time everybody else did, realistically. I hadn't heard his verses or what he did to the song. All I heard in the first place was the instrumental and what I recorded. So it turned out really fucking good. I'm happy with it. We just uh, you know, I just sent that one over to you, Asad. Yeah, uh, that new track. I'm not gonna throw the name out there because it's not recorded yet. And you know, I like to be exclusive.
SPEAKER_03Oh, something's coming, folks. Something is coming.
SPEAKER_06We got a storm's we got some good stuff. We got some good stuff in the in the in the back pocket, you know.
SPEAKER_04Stay busy.
SPEAKER_03They don't give a fuck about us like that, man. They don't give a fuck about us, they don't want to hear what we got coming, they don't care out there. They're sleeping on us still, bruh, but it's okay. It's okay. We're gonna wake you guys up. I'm not mad at this at all.
SPEAKER_06That's fine. They can they can they can stay asleep. That's fine.
SPEAKER_03They'll be gonna keep the button. They can hit the music group of their dreams. That's all right. It's cool, it's cool. Like, I'm not mad at it. I'm still in that mode. I'm still hungry for it. I'm still chomping at the bits lyrically all the time. So I'm always, always in my life. He likes bis. Huh?
SPEAKER_06I know, and that's my favorite part about it, is like, you know, you I mean, you know where we're from, and and certain people gain clout and and get to a level where they feel like they don't gotta work for it anymore, and they don't they feel like they they lose the grind, you know what I mean? And where we're from is such a fucking small town, it's it's a grain of sand in the in the grand scheme of things. So I think uh I think what our perspective on things, whether people are sleeping on us or not, that's how I'm always gonna look at it is they're always sleeping on us because I'm always gonna stay hungry and try to prove prove people wrong because that's how I improve, that's how I get better. And that's just how I look at it.
SPEAKER_03So and this is why we're best friends. So wait, he's your best friend. I'm sorry, Nada. I'm sorry. I love you too. All the way, I love you too, bro. I love you too, bro.
SPEAKER_10Don't get it, don't get it twisted, you know. Have fun with your long distance friend. Have fun having a catch with your long distance friend.
SPEAKER_06Hey, you know, long distance creates better communication.
SPEAKER_11Oh, don't you? Mr. Hallmark card, get out of here. This is all cap dude. This makes the heart grow fonder.
SPEAKER_06Get out of here. This is all capable straight cap, all of it. Our communication has gotten worse.
SPEAKER_03Man, but it's okay, man. Um, it's a process. We all live in moments, anyways. So, you know, we just deal with things as they come along. I'm like more accepting of life lately. I've been more in the present, being more present in sound mind spirit. So, you know, I get it. Like, it's all a process, and I feel like just gotta trust the process, and that's just basically how I brought boil the whole thing down to it. But since we're talking about friends and checking in on friends, what's up with you? Not a clue, how's things been with you and your mental health and shit?
SPEAKER_11Uh that's a whole other podcast. That's a whole other podcast. We can get into it now. I'm good. Uh I'm trying to.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I always say that.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we don't want to talk about my feelings and what I'm going through. Fuck that.
SPEAKER_11I'm I'm good. I've just been uh keeping busy working and I've been doing a lot of uh house renovations. I haven't been doing much music yet, but I like once my house is done, I feel like I can create again. But I have really bad OCD, so I've just been like, yeah, you saw how clean my my porch and my my garden is.
SPEAKER_03It's like bro, we might as well shoot a video downstairs how he got the shit looking right now. In the veranda.
SPEAKER_11Is it like it's like that? It's look it's coming along pretty nice. No, it's I I hand-sanded my entire porch because I realized it was redwood, and then I spent like five hours researching how to restore wood, and then like hand-sanded the entire thing, and now I'm working on my pond. Although yeah, but I I had uh recently I got a liquid flex seal to to make sure there's no cracks when I do my pond, and I was spraying it and I had two cotton masks on, and I convinced myself that I breathed it in, and then I looked at what happens if you breathe in flex seal, and I had a dude had a panic attack. I had a panic attack. I had to go to the hospital, and they're like I look, no, I flex sealed my insides, like I'm dying, like you're just having a massive panic attack.
SPEAKER_03Like and yeah, my infomercial just popped in your head while you were like having that panic attack. You look at the thing in the like still infomercial infomercials, you know that, right?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, no, you know, it's like when you read the like what happens if you breathe it in, it's like you're gone. Like the the this the messages from like, oh Jesus Christ, I have to go in. And then my body literally, I convinced myself my lungs were filled up with flexel, and then I was gonna die, and the doctor's like, no, you had you had masks on, and this is it doesn't do that. You just maybe inhaling, you get a little dizzy, you'd have to spray it inside your body to flex seal your body. So that was an expensive hospital visit for a panic attack.
SPEAKER_03Oh man, but you're bouncing back from that, yes? Shout out MediCal. Um, oh hey. Round of applause for Medi-Cal. Yep. Let me get that. No, let me let me get a round of applause, bro. Okay, wait, just yeah, let me get that. Give me the sauce, bro.
SPEAKER_11Okay, all right, oh yeah. We got we have a soundboard now, so now I can trigger. We're stepping up our game, folks.
SPEAKER_03Hey, Medi Cal gang up in this bitch. Oh, okay. That wasn't funny.
SPEAKER_06I can't hear shit. That's fucked up.
SPEAKER_03Ah, yeah, but oh now when it comes out, he will. So wait, you can't hear anything? I can't hear it. I can't hear it. That's what happens every time Balance tells a joke.
SPEAKER_11Oh, okay. That was no every time as Todd looks in the mirror.
SPEAKER_03Actually, no, I hear a whole bunch just praise every time I look myself in the mirror.
SPEAKER_09No, you hear a bunch of me.
SPEAKER_11No, I don't hear that either. You don't hear laughter. Okay. I don't, sorry. Well, that's the whole soundboard, guys.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wow. So no, no, no questions for me. No, no. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Fuck aside when what he's going through.
SPEAKER_11What happened to the sleeves on your sweat? Oh, yeah. So this question. He's wearing a hoodie with no no long sleeves. What happened? Was there a car accident? What happened to your sleeves? No, wait, wait, what are you talking about? You have you have less sleeves than an MP3.
SPEAKER_03Bro, it's summertime. Why would I need full sleeves for? Then what do you need a hoodie for? Well, sometimes it's cold. It's humble. But what's a humble fucking shirt? Oh my god. The fuck you mean? What are you talking about?
SPEAKER_11It's crazy.
SPEAKER_03It's not crazy. It's crazy. I've exaggerating, folks. But anywho, moving on.
SPEAKER_11He looks like a panda. I'll take a picture.
SPEAKER_06Is shit opening back up?
SPEAKER_11Oh, it's it's opening up crazy. Crazy. Like it's just like, oh, the bars are open now. I'm like, oh dear god. And it's like they're throwing shows every single day, pretty much.
SPEAKER_03But like, isn't this what we've been waiting for?
SPEAKER_11It is, but I don't miss people.
SPEAKER_06I kind of I don't want to say I want COVID-20, but I'm like, no, and that's funny because me and Lance are the same way. Like, I'm I'm excited that shit's opening back up, but I've gotten so comfortable being fucking alone. Like, not alone, but like in my in my bubble, you know what I mean? And like, so when you see in these large crowds of people, it's almost it can be almost over overwhelming a little bit. It's like, holy shit, there's a lot of fucking people here. I went to the casinos down here the other day and it was packed, like packed, and nobody had masks on. So it just feels weird, you know what I mean? It feels it feels like something we're not used to because we got used to being isolated for so long.
SPEAKER_11I got I got invited to a birthday dinner that I went to and I forgot how much I hate birthday dinners. There's like 20 people just like yelling, and you only talk to the people right next to you, and then oh yeah, it's just like, what is the point of this? And then everybody just leaves when the bill is due and then bounces. I was like, oh yeah, I I wish the pandemic was still happening. I I hate dinner parties and birthdays. How funny? I hate them.
SPEAKER_06The last the last dinner party I went to was uh or birthday dinner was Assad's, actually. When was that?
SPEAKER_03Oh, um you forgot your birthdays? I'm old, bro. Like anything past 30, I'm like, I don't care. Like I'm forgetting everything. Fuck that. Like I'm done counting. Um, yeah, this uh when I was talking to an old girl, and we went to uh Humbay Humboldt Bay Bistro, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_06And then we went to the casino.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the motherfuckers had mosquitoes there. Ugh, ah dinner was like uh it was fun, but it was like really awkward at the same time.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, it was hella funny though, because speaking of what Lance is just saying when everybody bounces when the bills do, I remember. I remember Home Girl, I remember Homegirl ended up having to pay a have a grip because shout out to Homegirl.
SPEAKER_03Thank you for the dinner.
SPEAKER_06Thank you. Yeah, we're not gonna say we're gonna name no names, but she did cover a lot of it. It wouldn't matter.
SPEAKER_03She doesn't she doesn't listen to the spot. Like it's okay. Hey, fucking but uh anywho, we're not gonna deep dive into my love life for no reason. Oh, that's a shallow pool of water. Interesting. Uh maybe next, maybe next podcast when I'm ready for all that shit. I am confident they don't listen to this podcast. So I think I can be open with my shit. I don't care. Boom. Anywho, moving on. Um but I'm good though, you know what I'm saying? I'm on the healthy vibes tip, you know what I mean? Just trying to chill, trying to like really uh get myself focused again spiritually and mentally, you know. Um this month was uh mental health awareness month. So I've been very, very reflective and trying to like really deep dive into myself and um really trying to get to these answers that's uh been haunting me and been holding me back, and just like that's what I'm saying, living in the present and being open to the moments that we're in is very, very important. Um so like I don't know, I reached a new level of peace internally. So I just can't wait for things to come back together, you know, have the train moving forward again. And now that we had time to sit down and reflect on our own fucked up shit that's going on with us, maybe we can apply the work externally so things would be better along amongst each other. But that's a pipe dream. So I don't really I have the hopes and aspirations of that, but you know, uh it's really all about the peace within yourself. So I've basically been working on that all month. And yeah, I'm ready to turn a new tide. It's gonna be lit. I call them my mind monsters.
SPEAKER_06So hey, hey, so with that mental hair mental health awareness month, and I mean for the people at least who do listen, what's something what's something like you have learned, like to tell yourself, to teach yourself every day to stay positive, optimistic, something like that.
SPEAKER_03Um, I mean to really like go into it. Um it's all about accountability with me. Um I feel that's it. That's been uh just holding myself accountable for everything and just everything that I do um and my my flaws and um the things that are fucked up about me, and I'm just trying to like really take hold myself accountable for that and really just uh learn to be patient and forgiving within myself because I'm like yo, I was I was in a fucked up state of mind, that's why I did that to you. So now let me hold myself accountable for those actions instead of like deflecting the blame on other shit. You know what I mean? Because it at the end of the day, it's all about you and what the fuck it is that you do, and your actions have like severe consequences to another person. It affects another person deeply, even though you don't have zero intention of harm or disrespect or in any form, it's still you still do it. So like I've been holding myself like, okay, like uh my energy towards you in this rapture, like it's mad aggressive, like I'm mad, like impatient, like yo, like I'm all over people's heads for no fucking reason when it's just me that's feeling like weird in some type of way about it. And I should not be like projecting my shit onto y'all. So I gotta hold myself accountable for how I'm feeling, and just like you know, yo, chill out, like it's gonna be okay, just live in the moment. So that is what I've been working on, and you know, just accountability and just getting more focused, more determined, and trying to like shift this vibe into a positive one. So that's what I've been on. I like that.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I like that. That's kind of, I mean, shit, accountability is like that's like my fucking word of the decade, word of the year this year. Yeah. Um, no, so I've I that resonates with me a huge, you know what I mean? I'm trying to, you know, raising, raising this little Hellion of a six-year-old, uh, this little boy who's just like me. And, you know, I gotta teach myself and hold myself accountable, more accountable all the time, you know, especially for actions, you know, that I I don't notice that he picks up on and then mirrors. And then I gotta, you know, instead of placing blame on him and how he's acting or reacting, I gotta remember that he's six years old and just absorbing everything he sees. And he's watching you, like he's watching. He's watching me. So I gotta turn around and be accountable for what the hell I'm doing. You know what I mean? It's it's just this, it's just really eye-opening, you know. Kids, these fucking kids will teach you so much, bro. Uh but I feel that, I feel that. That's a good uh that's the word, that's the word of the episode, accountability.
SPEAKER_11Yeah. Remember those commercials with the the parents find weed, and like, where did you get this? And like, I learned it from you, dad.
SPEAKER_03Uh knowing my son, he'll probably do that shit. I'm like, damn, yeah, that's right. You did learn it from me.
SPEAKER_04Straight up. I learned it from you, I got it from you, dad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Like, word. Alright shit. Okay, man. On that note, let's take like a little music break. How you guys feel about that? You know, we'll get back to the whole um commentaries social-wise and all the other shits.
SPEAKER_11Um do you want to do the most or just let's pick our own spot? Yeah, you do do yours first. Okay, your pick first. So this um is it's pretty old, but I was going through a lot of my old music yesterday and I found this loyal carner, L-O-Y-L-E. Carner um is pretty dope. He's from Britain, but he's he's very like J. Coley type, but uh like definitely underground.
SPEAKER_01He's done it!
SPEAKER_00Can you hear a track? Uh I kinda miss my student loan. Uh I've been sitting in the student home, sharing stories now. I simmer sippin' sort of roam, talking like I've been talking the talk, but can't afford a phone. Trust I pull it home, panicking to play it safe. This talk of paper chases forcing me to stay awake, live in this legacy cake. Others will say it's straight. Say they got my back and that they're pregnant. I'ma pave the way, like it's the great escape. Brothers do be better than me. I'm in a hurry, worry. What if they forget about me? I'm just another number, nothing. When the check will bounce it, I went moving for money, but there's nothing but debt around me. So when the rest of found me bugging in the brain, and I'm somewhere between the struggle and the strain. They gas white every fucking song the fucking same. And I tell them it's cause eight nothing change, say it, eight, not it, change, shape. I'm saying eight notes, change. Just cause eight not in change, say it ain't nothing, change. I'm saying eight notes, change. I'm saying eight notes shame. Rubber cause eight not in shape, say it eight, not in shame. Just eight notes. Cause this is for the men of the house who were far too young. See, your friends are good without the food, you can't do nothing. You're raising funds for your brother, and you're can't do something's up in the rubble, raising trouble. What you can't do is run the trust. I feel it. I feel it, but can't conceal it. See, this inner city responsibility's killing me. I start to shiver when I think of all the shit I need. And see all my brothers burning paper on that sticky greed. Picking the thickest leaves, stuck in the myth. Segging this shit I should've quit, but couldn't fucking resist. And now they sit with an arc, a little knock, and a whip. But trust they still blow them up for kids that living up in the bits and slip dagger through the puddles in the pain. Somewhere beneath the rubbles in the rain, uh, they gas what every fucking song the fuck is saying and I tell them it's cause ain't nothing change. Sagin' ain't not in change, eh? I'm saying ain't not in chains. Trust, cause ain't nothing change, saying ain't not in change. Nah, cause ain't nothing change. I'm saying ain't nothing changed.
SPEAKER_11But yeah, that was uh Loyal Garner Ain't nothing changed.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he's I heard that before. I think I I probably showed you. I think you showed me that before. I like that song.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, I I found out about him like five or six years ago, but he's been uh he has a bunch of new albums that have come out since then. He's he's very consistently good. Damn, I'll have to check him out. Yep. Are we doing so us? Are we doing news now? Do you guys want to do news? Uh okay. Well, this isn't news as much as it's not a news podcast.
SPEAKER_03I mean, this is honestly, I really came up with that shit to got to kind of give people something to like, oh these guys are doing social content. I have an update.
SPEAKER_11I have an update about did you listen to last week's Tyler? Oh, with Dempsterman? Bro. Not yet. Bro, you just said the Okay. Oh, you well, not Okay, so Tyler.
SPEAKER_03He's gonna know the story now.
SPEAKER_11No, yeah, but he didn't know the word until right now. You just ruined the mystique. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I didn't even Okay. I didn't even hear what he said. Thank God. Okay.
SPEAKER_11Okay. So this is real. This is a real thing that's happening in Humboldt County now. You've been gone. So, like a month ago, I was just kicking it somewhere, and like I was at the bank or like Ace Hardware or somewhere, and this guy, this black man that he's probably in his 40s, comes up to me and he's like, Hey, young man, and he's dressed nice, and I was like, What's up? And he's like, What's the magic word? I'm like, What? And he was like smile, like the craziest big smile you've ever seen. And I he I'm like, I have no idea what what? And he's like, redemption. And then he just fucking walks away. And I was like, What the fuck? Like, and this was at like three o'clock, and then he does it to this old white couple immediately after, and then like they scuffle away as fast as they could. And so I was like, that seems very strange. And then he proceeds. I see this man, it got to the point where I I've seen him eight times in one day. I've seen him in Trinidad, I've seen him in Fortuna, I've seen him in Eureka, Arcata, I've seen him at the bank, I've seen him at three o'clock in the morning, I've seen him at six a.m. in the morning, and he's just always anywhere I go, he just like, hey man, you know the magic word? Like he'll be like at corners. I'm like, what's happening? So then uh L, uh, our boy L, he called me. He's like, dude, uh, do you know the magic word guy? I'm like, yeah. And he's like, thank God, I need to talk to him to somebody about this. So this dude, because uh nobody knows what he who he is or what's happening, he was in an alleyway, and then that dude pulls up in a Porsche cayenne and rolls out the window and goes, Hey young man, what's the magic word? And the L is like, what is happening? Freaking out. And every time I've told anybody the story, he pops up that day. So last podcast, I told it's just me and Assad, I told him the story, and I said, I will get this man on this podcast. I promise you, this is my my dream. I need to know what this guy is doing with like how this is a job, like what is this? Because he just says the same thing and he just bounces. Like he was, yeah. So he was he found me at the Target bathroom for it sounds scandalous, but no, I was I was literally in the toilet, and like I hear the hand washing thing, and then somebody walks in, and then I hear, hey man, what's the magic word? And then like I wasn't involved, but I was like, oh my god, this guy is like following people in the bathrooms and shit. So I announced that I was gonna have him on the podcast. Asad, last podcast, had never met him. I didn't believe it. I said, Asad, can you give me a ride downtown after the podcast? So immediately, five minutes after I said this, Asad takes me, and we we park in front of the Everett's, and he's standing there in front of Everett's, and he goes, What's the magic word? And I'm like, Oh my god. So we have pictures. I got his phone number because I told him that about the like we just podcasted about you, like we need to know what your story is. I have his phone number, and now he randomly sends me, like, I love you, brother. Hope that you're having a good day. What's the magic word? Like random text messages in the middle of the like the strangest times of the day. This is a strange thing that's happening. Like so, Asad met him. Since then, there's something called the Humboldt County on Alert on Facebook, and it's for like thieves and like, oh, like, watch out for these people. I'm gonna read this. There's watch. I'm gonna read this. Okay, this is from uh 50, 60 year old woman. We live in McKinleville tonight around 9:30. I notice a car pull into our driveway, then the doorbell rang. We have a security screen, so my husband opened the inside door. A young man stood there, said his name was Beep. I'm not gonna say his name, and he was there to give us the word, turned and left. We don't know if he was casing our home or seeing if anybody was home. This is we are not the first house on our street. He didn't stop at any other uh houses. Has something like this happened to anybody else? So the he was popping up at random people's houses, but just one house on the street. So there's 270 comments of everybody's stories about this guy all over. Like, there's one in Crescent City. Uh-huh. There's people that think people that think, dude, read these comments. No, I saw a couple of them. No, there's 270 now. And there's really it goes from anywhere from like, dude, he's like a great person to like, I don't know, he seems like something's wrong with him to like uh the APD should get involved to like he might have like an issue or something. To some somebody wrote, it's like the plot of Michael with uh John Travolta where he's an angel on earth. I was gonna say, what is he, Jesus? Or no, but you really don't get bad vibes from him.
SPEAKER_03Like he it's at least for me. I didn't. I had zero bad vibes from dude. I'm like, yo, I really want to talk to this guy.
SPEAKER_11And he genuinely seems like he's just super like happy and like it, it's it's weird. I'm like, what are you putting him in on what is on here?
SPEAKER_06Can we call him right now? We I literally can I literally could call him right now.
SPEAKER_11No, call him, call him well, because I already have him on the phone.
SPEAKER_03We'll get him on the podcast. All right, we'll do it the next episode then.
SPEAKER_11Okay, no, but yeah, so we we will do it. But this is a real thing, and now there's 270 comments, which is yo, if he pops up now and I see him.
SPEAKER_06Oh bro, he's in Reno. He's in Reno coming for you right now, dude. Like, no, when either he pops up here, but no, when I come there and I I randomly see this dude, that's that's weird, bro.
SPEAKER_03Bro, I'm telling you, you're just gonna go about your business, you're gonna be living your life, you're gonna be doing your shit, and then this dude's gonna literally pop up right in front of you.
SPEAKER_11Literally, like he's literally and ask you what is the magic word, and then he's just smile once I'm like, it's redemption. Like it got to a point where he did it so much, like the time is eight times in a day. Hey, young man, it's redemption. I was just like walking past him, bo, I'm busy. This is crazy.
SPEAKER_03This is getting crazy, but that's the only thing you literally have to do, but like, yo, bro, redemption.
SPEAKER_11No, yeah. And then he's like, Yeah, and then he's just like, oh, and he zigzags, he'll cross the street back and forth, finding people. There's no joke, dude. Oh god, it's really the funniest thing ever. That's amazing.
SPEAKER_06The hardest missionary I've ever heard of.
SPEAKER_11Yo, I don't know what the mission is. Oh redemption isn't like that's not one religion, is redemption. Like, that's like it's a word, like it's like it's it's like uh Sesame Street on like steroids. Like, what's the magic word? And it's just like big bird running into people's houses and telling them.
SPEAKER_06Oh shit. Well, yeah, that's that's crazy. Sounds like Humboldt's gotten uh gotten he's it's I I like it.
SPEAKER_11I think it's a it brings the community together because everybody has a story, so it's like yeah, it's well.
SPEAKER_06Do you remember Ragman Pete? No, no, y'all don't remember him? That he was like that dude back in the day. He was this guy. There's you can look him up right now. He's he's in uh um recovery home up in Oregon, up in Portland.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_06And there's a there's a story on him on CNN. There's like there's this whole story on him. Anyway, she's just I remember Sunshine. Not Sunshine, no. So Ragman Pete was like when I was growing up. When I was growing up, he was this guy he used to walk around town and you could see he would pop up.
SPEAKER_11Oh, he passed away.
SPEAKER_06Did he really damn?
SPEAKER_11Shout out to Ragman Pete.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, rest in peace, my man. No, but he was like, he would wear blankets and like torn-up rags and towels and like like layers, and he had this long black hair, and he would walk around just covered in these rags from head to toe, and wouldn't bother anybody. He never really asked for money, he would just be everywhere. He was always around town, and everyone knew him. And then he, I don't know what happened. He got he had some mental issues, I think, and they sent him up to this place in Portland. I didn't know he passed away. That sucks, though. Yeah, well, sounds like humble humble staying very humble, as always.
SPEAKER_03It's extremely humble. It is what it is. You live in in the present. It's okay. Um, all right. Uh what's up? What are we gonna do now?
SPEAKER_11You're the deniero. I don't know.
SPEAKER_06I got uh I I read something today. I wanted to see your opinion on it. First of all, J. Cole. Yes. What do y'all think about him playing pro ball?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I mean, um I support it. It doesn't affect me at all. I support it if that's what he wants to do. Um I think he left early because of family issues or whatever, but family issues.
SPEAKER_06That's what I was gonna get to is that he fulfilled his contract for contractual agreements, and yeah, apparently left or left early to do the family obligations, which you know what? I mean who knows what's who knows what's going on really going on, but there's so many people talking, there's so many people talking shit about like his stats and uh three points.
SPEAKER_03Whatever, he's a 36-year-old dude from the streets who raps good, but he he's like solid in basketball. Like, chill the fuck out. We're not talking about like J. Cole isn't fucking Carmelo Anthony or fucking him to go out there and be Dame Dame Lillard, like just out here being fucking Lonzo balling. Like, I don't know. I don't understand that. I don't understand the hating on that at all.
SPEAKER_06And my whole thing is like, my whole thing is like, how are you gonna sit there and and judge a man for doing what the fuck he loves, like and chasing his dream? You know what I mean? He always wanted to play pro ball, he's in a position, he could go do it, so he went and fucking did it. You know what I mean? For any young kid coming up, that's inspiring to me to like be all right. This man is not have to have to stay in one lane, he's not just a rapper, he can go do whatever he wants because he's got that freedom, he's got the ability, because you know what I mean. I that's the way I look at it is and it's the same thing on the flip side. You got NBA players trying to make rap albums all day long, nobody says shit about that, you know. So I don't know. I respect it. I big ups to J. Cole. Hey, I if I had it was I in the position, if I was in the position to go play pro ball anywhere, fuck yeah, I'd put on a uniform and go play pro ball. It doesn't matter if it was for one game and I sat on the bench. You know what I mean? I'd still go play just to say I fucking played.
SPEAKER_03But people find reason to hate for no fucking reason. You know how they don't know, it's just it was just funny to me.
SPEAKER_06Like I saw he left early and I was like, well, damn, people are gonna talk mad shit now. Then I read his stats and was like, oh yeah, of course we've been talking mad shit now. But yeah, I'm like, man, how do you not respect that though? Especially after putting out a fucking album like he just did.
SPEAKER_03And I think it was um dope of him to do because to bring attention to an African basketball league, like if J. Cole wasn't there, nobody would have known or gave a fuck about it. Let's be honest. So for him to do that and bring attention to that and just going to Africa with it, thank you. Thank you, J. Cole.
SPEAKER_06Absolutely. Thank you for doing that, and vice versa, too. Like, think about the culture in general, like J. Cole going over, not only spreading hip-hop culture from America to those countries and those places, but like solidifying that relationship between hip hop and basketball, and you know, bringing together cultures from across the fucking world, yeah, rather than you know, isolating, oh, I'm just a rapper in America and this is for my people here. No, that he he was trying to pave a lane, you know, to an avenue to bring it all together, which I thought is really fucking dope.
SPEAKER_03He's uh contributing, you know what I mean? Like he's contributing more than a lot I've contributed.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, and that's that's my whole thing is like how you talk shit about that when when you're not doing anything, when you're not doing anything, but but on the you know, it wasn't just a selfish, like and maybe it was, maybe it was I just want to go play basketball, so I'm gonna go play basketball, but but what you know what he does know is like that's his life, the clout, the clout that he brings along with whatever he touches. So him knowing, yeah, fuck it, I'm gonna go play basketball. He knew ahead of time that he was gonna bring that exposure to that to that African League, to Rwanda, to you know, and bring the hip hop culture from America over there with it. So I respect to J. Cole, you know big shout out to J.
SPEAKER_11Cole. I'm with that.
SPEAKER_06Oh yeah, yeah, this song, and fuck anybody that don't like his new album because that's grown folks' music, anyways. I haven't listened to it yet. But uh I'm waiting. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03It's a very good album.
SPEAKER_06It's just one of those ones, yeah. You like I put it on, and you know, the first song is hard as shit, but then when it gets really gets into the the second song, Amari or D and J. Cole's real style, it's like it's classic. You just know it's classic. You know what I mean? You hear the first half of the first song, and you're like, this is one of those albums you can put on from start to finish, and just let it play anytime, any day, 10 years from now. It's just a good album all the way through. So yeah, that song I chose is uh is with Lil Baby, which I didn't I didn't really like Lil Baby, to be honest with you, that much until he did this last song. These last three songs he did. He did one with Drake, he did that one with Jordan and Lucas, and then this one with Jake Hole.
SPEAKER_03So uh My Lil Baby, the the one that he I I'm right there with you, the one that he got me like, okay, this dude's pretty nice. It's a song called Do That. That's what that's what it's called. And it's with him, um uh Duh Baby and some other dude.
SPEAKER_06But his verse was clean, like is that that new Khaled song? No, no, no.
SPEAKER_11Duh baby and little baby.
SPEAKER_03Duh baby and little baby. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. Like, I don't I don't like the name, but young infantry. It's not about me. Young infant is a big thing. There's a lot of babies. There's a lot of babies. A lot of babies. So okay, like there's a whole deep dive into that, but we're not gonna go there. Um, yeah, let's uh let's play the track.
SPEAKER_11Okay, the babies brought to you by Gerber Johnson and Johnson.
SPEAKER_07Uh pride is the devil. Think it got a hold on me, pride is the devil, and left so many RIP, pride is the devil, think it got a hold on me, pride is the devil, paranoid, I put you over everything to fill the void, and when you gone, will I have anything, or will I be destroyed? I put you over everything to fill the void and when you gone, will I have anything, or will I be destroyed? Yeah. I'm thankful cause I made it past my 30s, no one murder me. Still remember vividly, nigga pulled a gun on me. I'm petrified and moving like I got no sense of urgency. Try making nigga act way harder than he really be. Try to hide the thing, but still cut off my utilities. Try to hide the pain and growing up in hell in poverty. Try make a nigga feel the way that you'll follow me. Make a nigga flash the disease like he hit the lottery. Make a baby mama make it harder than it gotta be. Make you happy, take a picture court to see a prodigy. Make you happy, use your last resort and pull a robbery. Pride be the reason for the family dichotomy. Got uncles and some aunties that you proud and give apology. Slowly realizing what the rule of all my problems be. It got me feeling different when somebody said they proud of me. Pride is the devil, uh. I think it got a hold on me. Pride is the devil. And it left so many RIP. Pride is the devil. I think it got a hold on me. Pride is the devil. Yeah. I put you over everything. To fill the void at when you're gone. Will I have anything? Or will I be destroyed? I put you over everything. To fill the void when you go, will I have anything? Or will I be destroyed? Yeah. Too much money to count. What's the amount? 10 of a bounce. I gotta pay a nigga to add it up. And pay somebody to mix it, whatever amount he's saying. I'm made up. Direct on rest, I'm regular, taking up. You reaching up, egg it up.
SPEAKER_01Break it down, wear it up, not back it up. Make a five of mine's regular. Nigga, now it does that negative. Go back to start as no. I'm gonna boss my closet level. Ain't no updates on my skeleton. Long as I live, we live forever. So my twin and shit give back these niggas that slip at me and handle. Got my speed up, I fist in the bat, that assets on the jet. I don't need them that shit in the past. I'm feeling like what's this? Got my speed up, put all on the gas. Not a CA bit. I can beat them, I believe in leaders. Tell me what's the best. Oh my friend, had to lose it all, then I got this. I own five homes. Not some of this shit starna make sense. I'm standing telephones, and I can't forget the bigger bitches. Can't even hold it. I didn't have shit, I won't forget it. Will I be destroyed? Cut at me with everything, it's starting to get a run. I'm addicted to promethesine. It's crazy, I know it.
SPEAKER_07Pride is the devil. I think it got a hold on me. Pride is the devil. And it left so many RIP.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was good. Fire. Speaking of pride.
SPEAKER_11Okay. That segue was, yeah, like what where are you going with this?
SPEAKER_03Um, the the the whole concept, like, what do you guys thoughts about that? Like, how has pride helped you and how has pride hurt you?
SPEAKER_11I don't have any, so it's it's great. It's once you let go of that, and you're like God, why is that the case?
SPEAKER_03Why haven't we?
SPEAKER_11Because once you let go of that, it's just whatever. Like, if when people like disrespect me and like I've never been like, I'm gonna get you. Like when people like No, that's vengeance. That's vengeance. That's it. No, but pride is like if somebody insults you, your pride is like, I'm a man, I have to stand up against like No, just standing up for your own character. That's a pride. That's pride. That's a definition of pride.
SPEAKER_03Why is that a bad thing to stand up for your own character?
SPEAKER_11It's well, because if you don't care about your own character, then you what? You just gotta let me. Explain that. No, deep.
SPEAKER_09I'm a nihilist.
SPEAKER_11Oh it's yeah, I don't, it's whatever. Like I hate me as much as you hate me. I do not know. And once you do that, then no, not you. I'm just saying, yeah, like the random passerby. Yeah. And then once you let go of pride, then people can't hurt you because you don't hold yourself in a high esteem. Life hack. Life hack. That's not a life hack.
SPEAKER_03That's not a life hack. I disagree. Anyway, Tyler, what's your thoughts about that?
SPEAKER_06Um, I mean, I think there's a fine line between between pride and what can be considered ego. Um but I don't know. To me, my I don't know. I'm I'm proud. I'm a proud person. I struggle sometimes with putting my pride to the side in certain situations, but I don't think I let pride get the best of me all the time. I definitely uh, you know, listening to the lyrics of that song, you know, felt what what Cole was saying. You know, a lot of it's reality. A lot of a lot of pride does get in the way of a lot of certain things, or, you know, family issues, friendship issues, relationship issues, you know. Just in general, you know, being too proud to ask for help, being, you know, too proud to borrow money from somebody when you need it most, or just I don't know, you know. That's the way I look at it. And I try not to let my pride, you know, hinder me. But I also don't want it to uh affect my relationships with other people. So I do struggle sometimes, especially in arguments or disagreements, with putting my pride and my ego aside, you know, rather than just trying to win the argument because I'm I'm too proud to lose. Um, you know, that's that's can sometimes be tough for me. But I don't know, that's how kind of how I look at it.
SPEAKER_03I love pride. Like the like the parade? No, not the parade, but were you were you looking in the mirror when you said that? Yeah, he did. He was. There's I love pride. I do, I do. I don't know. I feel like I have a very positive relationship to it. I understand humility as well, as better as anyone. So I know they go hand in hand, and I learn to love both equally. I love to be humbled, but I love my pride as well. So there is no ifs, ands, or buts about it. I feel like I was born, it's like that's in my innate nature to feel that way towards the concept. So yeah. Okay, uh my pick. Your pick, your song pick? Yes, and this song spoke to me on a spiritual level, but I'm playing this song because it's Jada Kiss's birthday. I just saw it on social media.
SPEAKER_11So happy birthday to Jada Kiss.
SPEAKER_03This is a song. Shout out Me, like Jada Kiss.
SPEAKER_11Yeah.
SPEAKER_09I'm gonna love you anyway. So you can go.
SPEAKER_03This intro is so cold.
SPEAKER_02This is give you good vibes, don't it? I can't even hear it.
SPEAKER_08Oh man. No matter what.
SPEAKER_02Oh, it's so good. This is my gym, let's go.
SPEAKER_08Let's go. Soon as they get a voice to the flow, they already know it's I ain't even in the game, but as soon as the first one they blame is time, you a lame. Stop mentioning my name, my nigga. What you worried about? I'm in a group meeting. Oh, they took pick from us, now it's just Luch P. I'm the one that called her. Gotta feed the family of not getting falls on.
unknownWho else?
SPEAKER_08It's a drill tall funeral arrangement. Whoever puts it balls on. Ha ha who else be in the field front line to the war's gone. What they talk about me? Who they talk about me? All they talk about it. What they talk about me, who they talk about me, all they talk about it. What they talk about me, who they talk about me, all they talk about it. What they talk about me, what they talk about me, all they talk about. Who can go to discord? Who's underrated? Who's the most consistent? Who gets the real love? Who the girls love, who the jails love? Good niggas, good heart, a lot of lives were stayed by. Bad boy, rough ride, a lot of money was made by real dogs, large bags of feed style, commercial with AI. Good looking. One of the last of the OGs to stay five. Who else you know when that it would be means 50 buts? Even threaten this old refrigerator city, my guy. What they talk about me, what they talk about me, all they talk about is they talk about me. What they talk about me, all they talk about is they talk about me, what they talk about me, all they talk about is what they talk about, me, what they talk about, me, all they talk about who started off moving at work, but never had a whack.
SPEAKER_05I like that.
SPEAKER_11That's crazy. You I wish there was a video of this because he was literally he was beholding this whole thing like he was in the front of the Titanic or some shit. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03That's my jam, bro. That's my jam.
SPEAKER_11I remember in uh college, he came up with that song, Why? And I'll always it was like why, and then he has like, why'd Obama not do? But he said, Why is Jada Kiss as hard as it gets? I remember I remember there's like 400 rap lyrics I remember, and that one is why is Jada Kiss as hard as it gets is the I it's one of my favorite lyrics of all time. It's fantastic.
SPEAKER_02Oh man.
SPEAKER_04Never get that shot.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. I remember that. Oh man. Oh that was a good song, though. Why hate on a classic, man? I'm not hating on it.
SPEAKER_06Last night I stuck in his head forever.
SPEAKER_11I I showed somebody we were we were trading off cheesy hip-hop uh songs yesterday. Oh and so I remembered uh Joel Santana Santana's town, and then the I got a whole collection of my whole selection, a whole selection of my whole collection. The greatest bars of all time. That's fantastic. So good.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, this is crazy. Alright, so what else is on y'all's minds? Anything, anybody, any questions, or should we just get to the next song?
SPEAKER_06What uh are we planning shows this summer? What's good?
SPEAKER_11Uh the nights isn't happening. I talked to I talked to Maddie.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, I figured that much. I figured that there's no way you're gonna have that many fucking people this summer.
SPEAKER_11Well, because the the problem is that festivals are having to deal with like the smart thing, is everybody has to show their vaccination card, but then that's gonna turn into lunatics protesting and going crazy and like, or people forging their immunization card, which is already. So there's a lot of people that's going to do that.
SPEAKER_03That's gonna be fun, like, yeah, that it's already happening.
SPEAKER_11I've had people ask me if they're like helping, like, I'm not helping you do that. Like, just it's a shot.
SPEAKER_06Who cares? Go get the fucking shot. Did you get it? Yeah, did you? Yeah, I got I just got yeah, I did. Uh some vaccines. I just got my I just got my second one Saturday.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you guys fell for it, huh?
SPEAKER_11Oh, you're not yo get out of here, dude.
SPEAKER_05You could use your ROI getting mixed up a little bit. You know why? You know why?
SPEAKER_06I like I just it's for me. I hate the I hate the reminder of always having to grab a fucking mask. Like now I can go to the store and just walk in the fucking store. Yeah, I don't have to worry about oh shit, I gotta go back to the car, find a mask, or I gotta grab a mask before I leave the house. Like, it's just this extra thing I don't have to remember. This inconvenience that we've been dealing with for a year. Yeah. And I understand it keeps it's been keeping us safe, but you know what I mean? They got something else out there that can keep us safe instead of a mask. I'm good with it.
SPEAKER_11Wait, wait, wait, wait. You're gonna take I I'm gonna I sleep in my mask some days. Like, I don't want to I enjoy the mask. Me too. I'm never I'm never not wearing a mask. It's it's it's A, I can make it work with my outfit, which is just an extra thing. Plus, I cover my face so if I'm out, people don't recognize me. If I take my glasses off in public and have the mask on, it's like my exes will walk by me in the supermarket. Like it's fantastic. I'm not I'm not going back.
SPEAKER_03Like, I hope it's like a fashion thing going forward, like you know, just uh it's a an accessory. This is like wearing a necklace, you just wear a face mask.
SPEAKER_11Well, I've always had like a fetish for katana for Mortal Kombat, so it's perfect. I'm like, wow, this is amazing. It's just all eyes.
SPEAKER_03That's great. Nah, I did the responsible thing, I got vaccinated.
SPEAKER_11So he's lying. He didn't get vaccinated.
SPEAKER_03No, I really didn't. No, no, he didn't. I don't, I want to go places. Like the fuck you mean. Like that's the only reason why I did it. So, you know, if I like die or whatever, it's whatever. Like, I don't I'm not scared to die or some shit like that. I'm ready to like two pocket. Like, no, like I don't I don't fear death. So whatever happens to me, happens to me. But you know, I'm not gonna be restricted to doing the things I want to do. Like, fuck that. Like no. So I got the whole shoddy shot shots. And it's alright. It's all good. I'm alive. I don't have any like weird fangs on me or bullshit like that. It just made my arm feel all weird for a couple days. I was just tired as fuck the next day. That was about it. So alright, alright, alright. One more song that we're gonna be heading out here.
SPEAKER_11Yeah, well, it's one of your guys' songs.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. We're gonna review the most free guys. So.
SPEAKER_11Okay.
SPEAKER_03Uh let's get to it.
SPEAKER_11Boom. This is produced by track. There's track there. Track there.
SPEAKER_03Shit.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, I play it the moast. Why do I love you? I hate it the boat. Yeah, I play it the coach. Could you say that you hated the boat?
SPEAKER_14New me, new vibe, new feelin'. You drunk, I'ma we chillin'. I love this life, we livin', you stuck on all those times I did it. But you gotta be some hard. With a rest at no new friends, check that. Cause I screen most calls. With a trick, see, I feel too large. Goin' out of my mind, but you out of pocket, I'm all out of time. I'm up like a rocket, but you caught a vibe, and I couldn't stop it. You know I can't stop it, I'm way too invested. You know I'm a private, you want me to get it. You told me I got it, I know that I got it, I already got it. Look, I'ma be honest, I gotta be honest. The truth is in hindsight. I've been acting a fool, but my mind's right. I make all the wrong moves when the time's right. I'm a new word that stay out the line like now I feel like I've been bad. And some shit that I said make you think mad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I did that. I wish I could take all those sins back. I'm just tryna move past that. Living the moment, the past with a past that. I rode a boat, so you ain't gotta pass that happy. You know I'm just mad that you asked that. I had it in check, I just catch that. I've been stuck in this trend like a hashtag. So I'm watching my move like a NASDAQ. Take the stock, how you bringin' that ass back.
SPEAKER_13Don't get it for most.
SPEAKER_02Okay, I'm doing the most. I'm bold, I'm bragging, I'm doing the toast. This game is a show with these new hosts. You say you artists you do so a joke. Hungry for power, I was steamin' for ghosts. Expanding the product, I needed the ghost. You notice that fire, I need it to roast. You say that you hated, you did it to roast. What you ask me for? No need for the flex to attract these boys. Fuck you mean I'm a stupid human being. I don't wanna watch me for I got ice to my veins, should've rose again. Strike your bitches, you don't close the end. I got bulls of wolves, you know I rose again. Got my blinders on, you know I'm both dead. Just a boy, you don't get close to him. I spade for him, he's supposed to win. Frank Lucas ain't as dope as him. Let me smoke again. I ain't got shit to lose. It's more than me and you. Don't know how much more that we can do. This game's a constant war between boards of us, and I've been to him between the two. Please tell me why we're getting stats to repress again. I'm the golden boy of his excellence. I need proper style, so I'm blessed in this. It's what you need for the breakfast. I know for being rude, not much of a story to be conclude. I know you big man, that I'm saying the facts. What's known with me and you is yeah, I play it the most.
SPEAKER_13Why do I love you if I hate it the most? How could you say that you made it the most?
SPEAKER_06Ugh, I love that song.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was mastery at his finest. That's pride talking. That's the pride we're talking about. Uh no, stop it. Anybody who is a realist and realist? Everything on that track, they'll we'll agree like this is a great song. So I don't give a fuck what anyone has to say. First verse went hard. Second verse, amazing. The whole song, dope as fuck. My penis, hard the whole time when I hear my own voice.
SPEAKER_11Hard. It's just hard. All over the board, hard. Why am I hard as it gets, Les? Dude, that's we gotta we gotta pay tribute to that lyric.
SPEAKER_03Yo, don't play. I'm telling you, don't sleep on the greats, man. Don't sleep on the gods, bro. Y'all playing. All right, so let's get back to the backstory of that song. Let's uh how we how do we feel about that track now? What's what's on your minds? What do you see see improvements that could be there? Or what's your feedback? I think I just how do you guys feel about this song?
SPEAKER_11I just recorded that one, so it's good recording. Don't make your Eeyore face.
SPEAKER_06Um, that track, that track was fun. Um I produced that one. Um I don't know, it was just uh it was a fun beat. It was just in uh in a in a time when I was just kind of experimenting with different sounds and different noises and recording different you know styles of drum patterns and shit. So that one that one came out with a cool energy uh hook and shit. Um I don't know, it was just I was just you know trying to trying to speak to how I look at music, how I approach music, you know, it's it's not just a hobby for me, it's it's more everyday life. I literally wake up and make my coffee and sit down and start making instrumentals and and then go to work and then I come back home and sit down and fuck around and record a verse and then you know get to my homework. And so it's always incorporated in I I quite literally feel like I do it the most. I wake up out of bed, I do it the most. I you know, I record the most. And you know, whether people love it or hate it, it's it's still consistent for me. So that's really what it was about for me. And the video is fucking dope. That was our first music video filmed at uh filmed at my house in the side's house. And uh that was kind of speaking to how I felt about the song, you know. I think the video starts with me hopping up out of bed and have this scruffy ass beard, you know, flip the switch and flip the switch and turn the mode on and start doing the most, which is kind of dope. You know, if you haven't watched the video, check it out. But uh I love that song. Every time I hear it, you know, it kind of goes dormant in my library a little bit, and then I it pops back up and it the fucking energy is just always always there. It always brings me back. Yeah, it always brings me back to the feeling how I felt when we first recorded that shit and we're jumping around like this shit is fire. Um every time I hear it, you know what I mean? It's just I get that feeling again inside, which that lets me know it's just one of those kind of classic good good songs. It's just a good one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love the the whole cadence and just the whole overall vibe of the most. I mean, I don't know, it was just one of those verses. I don't want to say like, oh, I just put this, put that together. I really sat down and I thought about you know how I'm gonna structure this verse and how I'm going to execute it and what does this verse mean to me? So it just again, we all know I'm I'm all about the the craft, the word smithy, the word smith of guys. Have you heard the uh last episode, Ice Smith words?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, and a foundry with a hammer and an anvil.
SPEAKER_03So Smiths is what like I just love lyrics and I love how lyrics are set up, and you know, just like again, the cadence and the overall vibe and the overall structure and just breaking it down to a science. Um your verse was well executed, you know what I mean? It just like it set the tone. And it just like I, in my view, I'm like, how can I best compliment this? But also bringing in my own energy, my own perception of what give it the most is, you know what I mean? And what does it really mean to give it the most and to like get the least? You know what I mean? So like I feel like the whole I gave it the most is like I really give this rap shit all the love and all the respect that I can muster in my spirit, you know what I mean? So it's just like I take it seriously. You know, I wake up every day, I write a quick four, a smooth eight, maybe I'll do a 24 this day, maybe I'll do a fucking 48 the other day. Like I always end the day trying to find something to play with and just you know expand on when it comes to like creating songs about. So just like again, I wake up every day like what you do, I just do it on the flip side when it comes to like you know writing the shit. So it just like yeah, so I just kind of gave my concept and my um my principles, you know what I mean, where I stand when it comes to hip hop, when it comes to this rap shit, when it comes to lyrics, this is where this is these are my standards, and this is where I stand. So yeah, I just gave I give this shit the most. So it just like, you know, it kind of right it brings me there. So every time I hear that track, I'm just like, yeah, I got the sauce.
SPEAKER_06So we we we good. That's one that one too, like, you know, I it just it just came together all the way around. It came together, you know what I mean? From the time I made the beat and recorded the hook, and then it is the same old process, y'all have probably heard uh several times on these songs. I made the beat, record the hook, and then I send the shit to Assad. And uh and he sends back a verse, and then I write a verse and record it, and then the song gets mixed and mastered. Um But it would it just the way it came together with the energy of both verses combined with the hook, just match the match the the beat perfectly, and then the The video, you know, kind of defines almost what we were talking about earlier of just being slept on, feeling slept on, you know. Like, and it's funny because I jump up out of bed in the very beginning of the video because you know, we're getting slept on. Um but you know, it just kind of goes through and really kind of if if you listen to the lyrics of the song and watch the context of the video, it really kind of sets the mode and mood of who we who we feel like we are. You know what I mean? Just we do this daily. This is, you know, for some folks out here, it's a game and and a hobby. And you know, they they gotta get a laptop and pro tools, and all of a sudden they're a DJ and a producer. And you know, for for me, not a clue and uh and a sad. This is this is shit we do regardless of people, if people are gonna listen to it or not. Facts, you know, and that's that's what that's what connected all three of us is you know, not a clue sits in his room, and this that's that top floor of his his bedroom is a music studio, folks. I don't know if you know this. Don't tell people he mixes a massive he is a meager house, and don't go to no, but but he like when when artists and producers and DJs and stuff say, Oh yeah, I live in the studio, that's because they work in the studio and they go go do their jobs. No, this man literally lives in his studio, he lives there, you know. Assad goes over there and you know spends a majority of his that's a lot.
SPEAKER_03I do not he does not have me over here like that, folks. Like that, damn. Let's keep it real here on how rude. Okay, I used to be.
SPEAKER_06No, no, that's that's what the whole song was about to me, you know, just doing what we do, doing it all the time. We always are gonna do it, and that's you know, with doing the most, that's kind of what comes along with it, is just you know, sticking with it, staying, staying true to what we do.
SPEAKER_03And I do the absolute most in in person too. So he's extracting. Yeah, this name is this is super extra.
SPEAKER_06He does the most. For sure. He does the most. Y'all can see us together though. When we're together, it's it's too much. It might be it might be the very most, you know. The absolute most.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I feel like just be yourself, don't give a fuck, don't care. You know what I mean? Like, that's just my that's my attitude, you know what I mean? Like, I am I don't care.
SPEAKER_06We just we you know live in live in the titles of our songs.
SPEAKER_03Truth.
SPEAKER_09We have a song called Natus.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Hey, yo, you know what? That one, that one's hindsight, though.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, we can go all day with this. We can really go all day.
SPEAKER_10I'm making executive decisions.
SPEAKER_03Did you know what I'm good?
SPEAKER_10Nope, we're not all right. On that note, and I run tigs! All right, on that note, okay.
SPEAKER_03So, yeah, no, no, no, no, what's happening? What you about to do? We're ending it. Okay, we're ending it.
SPEAKER_11You guys name every song you've ever done and like throw up.
SPEAKER_03All right, um, thank you guys again. Like for real, like on a real note, like just for the people who've been listening to this conversation, like thank you for just donating your time and your energy to this podcast. Thank you for sharing. Thank you for just continuing to support us. Um, we feel the love, really. And yeah, we're gonna love for real. We're gonna keep working regardless. Like, regardless, we're gonna keep doing this shit. You know what I mean? Like, it doesn't stop. Always gonna be doing the most. I'm always gonna be extra as fuck. And I don't care. All right. All right, um, okay, no, no. Real quick, uh, next pod is gonna be lit because we're gonna have hell on this bitch.
SPEAKER_11Oh man, it is going to be a hell of a podcast. I can't wait. I'm not producing that one.
SPEAKER_03Oh no, you're gonna be here for this. It's gonna be so good.
SPEAKER_11My headphones are gonna have to have headphones. Dude. Energy.
SPEAKER_03Y'all gonna get next podcast. It's gonna be you'll never recover. Okay, so this was like a little transition because when this is the same. Yeah, yeah. We're gonna transition this shit to a different vibe, baby. So, yes, keep tuning in, keep fucking with us. Appreciate y'all. Um, track, do your little salutatious and shit.
SPEAKER_06Oh, you know, check us out. Instagram, YouTube, Facebook, whatever, root music, ENT. Um, you know the plug. Uh, not a clue asad. Love y'all, miss y'all. Love you too, brother. Out here in the fucking desert. I can't wait. This wait to meet.
SPEAKER_03We're gonna leak next Friday, huh? We're gonna do this next Friday?
SPEAKER_11Yeah, wait, I can't wait to meet Kamala.
SPEAKER_03Kamala Cooper. All right, this is on the way, bro. She's on the way. There you go. All right, this is gonna jump off. All right, you guys, thank you very much. Remember to uh mind your business, stay out the way, mind your ego, drink water, and love life. Wash your hands, wash your hands and your ass. All the good shits. All right, y'all, peace.