Peter Pan Has To Grow Up

This episode opens on a different note as Asaad & Kemistree take a moment to be transparent and vulnerable. The two discuss the purpose behind the podcast, its mission, what they hope to accomplish, and share some of the biggest lessons they’ve learned so far in 2026.
From there, they jump straight into the culture.

The duo breaks down the Verzuz battle between Pretty Ricky and B2K, giving their honest takes on the performances, nostalgia, and who they believe came out on top. They also dive into new music as Asaad reviews Benny The Butcher’s latest project, The Plugs I’ve Met 2.5.

Kemistree then brings up the rise and fall of Dame Dash, leading into a deeper conversation about legacy, accountability, and business. The conversation continues with their thoughts on this year’s BET Awards and what stood out—for better or worse.

Keeping the music flowing, Asaad introduces a record from Earthsignchels before the fan-favorite “Verse Verses” segment returns, where two legendary rap verses go head-to-head in a lyrical showdown.

After the music break, the conversation shifts to reality TV as the hosts discuss Love Island and the internet’s latest obsession, KC & Aniya, sharing their perspectives on the relationship that has everyone talking.

To close out the episode, Asaad & Kemistree bring the energy with rapid-fire games including “Would You Rather,” “Crash Out or Stand on Business,” and “Cancel One Forever,” creating plenty of laughs, debates, and moments you’ll be talking about long after the episode ends.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_13 0:00

Mike Check one two, what is this? It's a Mac two top two talking so authentic. I got a question for you. Do you think it's delusional or deserving if uh somebody's like, oh I drop a hundred episodes for a podcast, well I'm not viral yet. I should be viral. Is that delusional?

SPEAKER_08 0:26

I don't think it's delusional, I think. We all deserve to know how we feel. But you gotta do something to go viral with it. I think it's about like the takes to go viral. Like I feel like sh if somebody goes through our joints and we definitely got a bunch of viral things that should have been done, you know what I'm saying? But in due time, in due time. So I don't know, I don't think it's delusional.

SPEAKER_13 0:48

I don't think people have like patience to do this. Or like, you know what I mean, when you're starting a podcast, right? It's all about what are you influencing, what are you bringing to the table to us as you know, as a society, as a collective and stuff like that. And I've been doing a lot of things about this podcast and what our contributions is and what our mission statement is. You know what I mean? I think we should like brainstorm a mission a mission statement. You know, like uh so so so what what give me give me a give me uh an idea right now on the real.

SPEAKER_08 1:19

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:20

What do you think what we do here at the MAC podcast?

SPEAKER_08 1:22

I honestly I I think we are how genuine in the fact that we actually have a real friendship and the fact that we um we we don't have a problem going back and forth with each other. It's it's just how genuine we are. We authenticated, we dedicated. Sometimes you might catch us a little faded, you know what I mean? But we always show love, we ain't never jade. You know what I'm saying? Okay, so yeah, like I don't know. I just think that's the rawness of it is is our thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:48

The rawness of it is one thing, too.

SPEAKER_08 1:50

And we stay relevant, like we keep up with it.

SPEAKER_13 1:51

And another thing is like uh, I want to introduce the the phrase common sense. I really want that. I want to I I want to bring that back.

SPEAKER_08 2:01

That's what I'm saying. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 2:02

I want to make it common. Like, I feel like this I don't think that's a common command. I feel like there's a lot of common sense in every episode that we dropped so far.

SPEAKER_08 2:10

I think we bring things to light.

SPEAKER_13 2:11

I mean, you brought a lot of common sense. Like people they they on my they're on my top about, you know, some of my takes. I get it. Uh you know, my delivery's a little harsh. But hey, I'm not lying. It's common sense.

SPEAKER_07 2:28

Well, you know.

SPEAKER_13 2:30

Nah, man. Our mission statement gotta go gotta go hard.

SPEAKER_07 2:33

I mean, we can talk about it. No, we gotta go. No, no, it has to go crazy. It's gonna go crazy. I don't just have to crack it.

SPEAKER_13 2:37

It has to go crazy.

SPEAKER_07 2:38

I don't do nothing that don't go hard.

SPEAKER_13 2:39

I need some of that, you know what I mean? Like, I'm pitching this thing to a Fortune 500 company or something like that. Like, that mission statement gotta be like this.

SPEAKER_08 2:47

That's what it better do. It's supposed to be. We're revolutionizing trains of thoughts. Well, we got something all in one. You know what I'm saying? Right there. We have to do that. That's one of the feeling.

SPEAKER_13 2:57

That's one.

SPEAKER_08 2:57

But like you said, we're revolutionizing train of thoughts. We are one stop show. We talk about everything here, from sports to you know what I'm saying, it's not just a podcast, it's we it's a talk show, it's uh I don't know, I think we embody all the lanes.

SPEAKER_13 3:12

You know, of course we do. Of course we do. Because you know why, under my great stewardship.

SPEAKER_08 3:16

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_13 3:22

Nah, I just I just I just I just but like no no no for real, like I I I love this podcasting journey because it's just like is is what, you know, I mean, again, I want to revolutionize how you think. And like, you know what I mean, and just like bring up some awareness and some common sense to prevail. Oh, yeah. Because I feel like I think that too, but because like look at the state of the world that we in. There's no it's it's very fall in line. It's very like, you know, you you gotta do things a certain way, live the live this certain way, and your life will be. Yeah, that's what they'll it's like uh, you know, machine.

SPEAKER_07 3:58

That's how I've been though. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 4:00

Like probably Yeah, we gotta break that wheel, yo. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 4:03

Like that's what I think we do do. I think we we we do do. But um, I think we make people think outside of that, you know what I'm saying? Like, I know I think outside of uh of stuff like that. Like, yeah, you can play the game, but like make sure that you're not letting the game play you. You know what I'm saying? But some people though, it's it's me it's like it's easier for them to do the game. And they and they be they okay with that, but it's like what are you gaining from it? And then like you say, the state of the world, you know, I don't know if it's so much common sense or just making people use some sense. Use one of your senses. Hell you got five.

SPEAKER_13 4:37

You feel me? No, absolutely. Gotcha.

SPEAKER_08 4:39

Gotcha on that one right there. Yeah. Um But yeah, we're gonna work on our mission statement.

SPEAKER_13 4:44

No, no, no, yeah, we gotta brainstorm that. Oh, and another thing. Since we are, it's like 2026 has somewhere to go. Man, I'm telling you. It has something to do.

SPEAKER_08 4:55

This mug is like, I'm just stopping by for quick, not alone.

SPEAKER_13 4:59

Quick, fast, in a hurry.

SPEAKER_08 5:01

2026 here for a good time.

SPEAKER_13 5:02

No, no, no, it's not even a good time. It's like, no, we're here, we we know what's going on. We're gonna be out here real quick. Don't worry about you. Don't worry about y'all. Right. We're gonna try and get up out of here real fast.

SPEAKER_08 5:15

All the lies.

SPEAKER_13 5:17

So, what has 2026 so far taught you?

SPEAKER_08 5:22

Um, honestly, it's it's been a um a big self, like self-dream. Like, you know, like internal depth of it. Like, for me, I'm gonna be personal with all me. I I I'm I balance between this is a part of showing your personal stuff. Hold on to like, you know what I'm saying, my my I I'm a torture kid for life, you know what I'm saying? But at the same time, adulting and stepping into the room of like not getting so caught up because I see people who be so focused on like just work, bills, um, just all the things that really don't bring any joy to your life and and and forget about having fun. Or when they have fun, they can't have fun because their mind is still stuck on all the bad. You know what I'm saying? So like I think it's just funny that that balance for me between that and making the next step in my journey, you know, with everything that I've already done so far. How do I take that into the next part of my life? So, you know, I'm I'm 2026 has been a roller coaster, bro. Highs and lows, but um It ain't the best, it ain't the worst.

SPEAKER_13 6:34

I like it.

SPEAKER_08 6:35

You know what I'm saying? How about for you?

SPEAKER_13 6:37

Uh well this is the personal part of the show. We're gonna get to we're gonna we're gonna bring it in in just a minute, folks. I gotta answer this question.

SPEAKER_07 6:46

Yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_13 6:48

Um personally speaking, this year has been a very sobering year. Um I often hop on this platform. I speak a lot about delusions and delusional people. I feel like it breaks down to two categories. Because I feel like everyone to a certain extent is delusional. Like some people, there are some people out there who are delusional when it comes to other people, like relationships, connections, interactions, so so on and so forth, delusional about that. But it's like they're delusional, but it's about it's external, it's going towards other people. And there are some people in this world that are delusional about themselves.

SPEAKER_07 7:31

I like that.

SPEAKER_13 7:32

You know? And a lot of people who are delusional about themselves, their their inner dialogue is riddled with egotism, narcissism, and pride. For the most part. So no no, I'm I'm speaking that from a very like, you know, open, open way. So it's just like an idea just struck me. I was like, damn, like, have I been lying to myself for a minute? So it was just like now I have to like, you know, now I'm like stepping back, like I'm about to go to do some really, really deep soul searching, but not for nothing. Um so it's like cause I gotta re-examine everything. Yeah. Like my my stances on things, my philosophies, how I go about things, my interactions, how I go about treating people, like what I think of people, um, what I think of myself, yeah, and stuff like that. And face like very, very harsh realities and truths. Cause you know, like I I never had a problem uh facing it. But it's just like that, it was that internal dialogue. It's like, no man, fuck all that. You know what I mean? You that's noise, that's nothing, that's nothing but hate, that's nothing but talk.

SPEAKER_08 8:44

But you haven't a hard you had a hard time saying it. It seems out loud.

SPEAKER_13 8:47

Out loud.

SPEAKER_08 8:48

Out loud.

SPEAKER_13 8:48

Just saying, dang, maybe they'll maybe they maybe they're right.

SPEAKER_08 8:52

Or maybe it might be some truth to what's going on.

SPEAKER_13 8:54

Or maybe they know, yeah, yeah. Or they could be right.

SPEAKER_08 8:56

Or they could be right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 8:58

You know what I'm saying? So it's just like, you know, yeah, so I'm I'm in that stage right now. Just really like kind of like re-examining.

SPEAKER_08 9:05

It sounds like a rebuild, you know what I'm saying? Sometimes you gotta break yourself.

SPEAKER_13 9:09

It's like a deconstruction to a rebuild for sure. But like that deconstruction is gonna be uh it's gonna be a work.

SPEAKER_07 9:15

Oh man, yeah, that's definitely.

SPEAKER_13 9:28

Not only as a human being, but as a man as well. So now I gotta like, you know, really think about things.

SPEAKER_08 9:35

Yeah, you know that. You know, I got you back.

SPEAKER_13 9:37

I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_08 9:38

For sure, for sure. But I don't think anything's wrong with that. Like we live, you know what I'm saying? Like, if you think about how long you've been on this earth, I know I don't I don't already done here, you know, more than two decades if you really think about it like that. I'm three plus. When you think about it, me too, you know when you think about the deep the decade of it, you know. It's a lot. It's a lot, and especially with our generation, we have experienced some of the things.

SPEAKER_13 10:00

We've experienced a lot. Millennial uh millennials.

SPEAKER_08 10:08

If you didn't take the time to sit back and break yourself down, then probably.

SPEAKER_13 10:13

And it's just like, it's not only that, it's like what I've been told all my life. And you know me, uh, like this is something that my mom always used to tell me. Like, you you've always been the type of person that would take something just wrong with it. Right? Because like I'm trusting the the source of it all.

SPEAKER_08 10:33

Yeah, that's because I was gullible.

SPEAKER_13 10:35

And no, no, no. But uh it'd be crazy to me because me taking it wrong with it, and I run into these life situations for myself and I see for myself, and it and it it applied. Like what I was told applied. So it's like I was told some right information. So I'm I'm just gonna do it.

SPEAKER_08 10:55

I'm taking it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 10:56

So it's just like now I gotta think like, well, do I need to like stop and think about what I'm being told for a second? And just think about things in all angles.

SPEAKER_08 11:06

I mean, I would definitely suggest all angle thinking, but I think it also is like what works for your life. If you're saying that the things that you have been told and ran with have worked and applied for you, um if it ain't broke, don't think.

SPEAKER_13 11:20

Like don't let the like uh like euphemism, like don't let uh don't let the left hand know what the right hand's doing.

SPEAKER_08 11:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 11:25

I was told that.

SPEAKER_08 11:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 11:26

Things of that nature.

SPEAKER_08 11:27

But I don't think that's not true.

SPEAKER_13 11:28

Parables of that nature.

SPEAKER_08 11:29

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_13 11:30

And those scenes.

SPEAKER_08 11:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 11:33

And like, oh, okay, like eagles don't fly with turkeys.

SPEAKER_08 11:36

That's real.

SPEAKER_13 11:37

Etc. etc.

SPEAKER_08 11:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 11:39

So yeah, no, so it's just like dang, like that the old heads still be wrong.

SPEAKER_08 11:43

I try to let it go. Eagles don't fly over turkeys.

SPEAKER_13 11:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 11:47

Eagles definitely fly over turkeys.

SPEAKER_13 11:49

Turkeys is eagles, turkeys don't fly. Don't fly with turkeys.

SPEAKER_08 11:54

Oh, don't fly with. I thought you said over.

SPEAKER_13 11:57

No.

SPEAKER_08 11:57

Honey, I thought you said over. I said flying. I said with. Okay. Okay. We had to revisit because I was like, no, they don't. Eagles don't fly with. With. No, they don't have to find it. They don't. Because turkeys don't do what? I ain't never heard that one.

SPEAKER_13 12:09

I ain't never seen a flying turkey. Never, never dang my life.

SPEAKER_08 12:11

I thought you said over. Okay?

SPEAKER_13 12:13

I ain't never seen an eagle with a bunch of eagles. I know turkeys. Every time I seen eagles, just one.

SPEAKER_08 12:18

I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_13 12:21

Eagles don't fly with turkeys.

SPEAKER_08 12:22

I like that one. I just never heard. I thought you said over. But with. Yeah. With. Eagles don't fly with turkeys. But no, I think those are ones that you hold on to. Like what are ones that you took that didn't apply? And it's not even parables. It must be.

SPEAKER_13 12:33

It's parables for the most part. But like, but it has some wisdom attached to it. You know, because I'm a I'm a believer in wisdom.

SPEAKER_08 12:39

But I think that you should hold on to them, but still start looking at things from all angles.

SPEAKER_13 12:44

But I guess like what I need to re-examine is like uh my perspective as an adult in this world. On how it's experience. In my adult uh point of views. Because like, yeah, like you say, uh, it kind of relates to you. Like, you know, you know, I'm a Toys R S uh kid myself, but I do have to let those things go.

SPEAKER_08 13:02

I don't think I gotta let them grow.

SPEAKER_13 13:04

I just gotta figure how to No, not you, because you and me are like in different stages of life. I think you gotta let them go though.

SPEAKER_08 13:11

Yeah, like no, no Toys R Us kid to let it go.

SPEAKER_13 13:15

I know, I know, but like our innocent.

SPEAKER_08 13:17

That's everything we got.

SPEAKER_13 13:19

It has to be a it's different, different strokes for different folks.

SPEAKER_08 13:23

No, I understand because I know our different rules for everything. So I like to do that.

SPEAKER_13 13:27

As much as I want to be that kid. It works. For you, it works. I want you to I want you to keep being keep doing that, keep that toys RS kid.

SPEAKER_08 13:36

I got you, bro, because I know you're gonna have to. I know, but me personally grow up.

SPEAKER_13 13:40

Me, yeah, I yeah, you feel me.

SPEAKER_08 13:41

Peter Pan had to grow up.

SPEAKER_13 13:42

Peter Pan has to grow up.

SPEAKER_08 13:45

Man.

SPEAKER_13 13:45

So now I gotta really fully embrace this Thanos.

SPEAKER_08 13:48

That's alright. You got 10 years doing the growing up, and then we'll revisit this. No, not 10 years too long. We're gonna do five because life is new to me.

SPEAKER_13 13:54

Man, you're my CI 2026 is made.

SPEAKER_08 13:57

And then we're gonna revisit this because I'll hold that energy so that when you're ready to hop back outside towards the rosky, because you're able to. I got you. Let's see what's happening. I'm gonna save you a seat at the table.

SPEAKER_13 14:06

Alright, man. Let's get to it. Let's get to it. Let's get to it, man. Where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Where we at? Where we at?

unknown 14:13

What is it?

SPEAKER_13 14:18

Yes. Yes. You know what it is? This this is where you lose your virginity too. I was outside with this man. Hold on, hold on, man. Don't worry, don't worry, but I got you, I got you, I got you. Yeah. Hold on, man.

unknown 17:16

Hey.

SPEAKER_04 17:20

Let's go, baby.

SPEAKER_13 17:45

Let's go, let's go.

SPEAKER_08 17:47

Oh, there I go.

SPEAKER_13 17:48

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_08 17:48

Oh, you cut me down.

SPEAKER_13 17:49

No, no, I got you.

SPEAKER_08 17:50

You cut me down. You just cut me down. I do not want tripping, y'all.

SPEAKER_13 17:53

This man cut me out for the whole pretty quick day. He was walking. Playing with me.

SPEAKER_08 17:58

He wanted to be pretty Ricky the whole new. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 18:01

Oh.

SPEAKER_08 18:01

And try to play me like I'm B2K, but you know what? I'll be that. I'll be that bitch.

SPEAKER_13 18:06

Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Hold up, hold up, hold up. No, I heard that. Y'all caught that. Hold up now. Hold up.

SPEAKER_08 18:11

It's your first time hearing me get.

SPEAKER_13 18:13

All right, all right, man. Welcome, welcome, welcome to yet another episode of the Mac Podcast. I'm your host, Hassade Artist. Alongside the big star of the show, you know it is, man. Big K, Big Tree, man. Quit playing with us. We outside.

SPEAKER_08 18:31

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 18:33

Oh, no. Beefing. No, we hibachi, man.

SPEAKER_08 18:36

Nah, nah. You chopped me out, alright.

SPEAKER_13 18:42

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SPEAKER_08 19:24

No, no, no. I hear good compliments. I just I just love you. I know that. I love you. I am the man of the people. Please get two sides.

SPEAKER_13 19:30

This is why I take those takes. This is why I say those takes. But I it's enjoyable. I want the smoke all the time. Um, yeah. Alright, look. We gotta talk about the man. You already know. We're gonna start the show with it. That colossal ass whooping we didn't witness.

SPEAKER_08 19:48

Well, I don't know about colossal. Colossal is a big word.

SPEAKER_13 19:52

Let's get into it, yo.

SPEAKER_08 19:53

Because B2K.

SPEAKER_13 19:54

Nah, nah, it was a it was a wash. It was a landslide.

SPEAKER_08 19:58

B2K hitch. It was BTA. No.

SPEAKER_13 20:01

Oh my god. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_08 20:02

They shouldn't have had the two of them against each other. Okay, one B2K didn't have enough hits to stand up. Even close.

SPEAKER_09 20:11

Why was this a versus?

SPEAKER_08 20:12

So it was for high, like middle school, high school girls. That's when B2K came out.

SPEAKER_13 20:16

And you know what pretty Rick was for? Even on the same. The grown folks cracking.

SPEAKER_08 20:20

Exactly. No, not even grown folks, bro. It's like when we started. The bad kids cracking. I'm telling you, think about the time frame. B2K came out in like middle school, going into high school, ninth grade, tenth grade. Gotcha. About 11, 12 graduating. Um, uh Pretty Ricky, Pretty Ricky had a punching. Had a punching and then going under, okay? So they should have never had the tool with them going again. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_13 20:45

Man, hold up.

SPEAKER_08 20:46

But B2K also has new. Because you know what?

SPEAKER_13 20:49

You know what? I ain't gonna hold you.

SPEAKER_08 20:51

Well, we don't want to won that. Pretty Ricky definitely.

SPEAKER_13 20:54

This is this is um collapse. Speaking of high school, man. I mean I was 16.

SPEAKER_08 20:59

I see what I'm saying. I was a little older when I heard it. Hold up, hold up.

SPEAKER_13 21:03

My sister had this friend.

SPEAKER_08 21:04

Pretty Ricky in the matches.

SPEAKER_13 21:07

The biggest thing I ever seen. I wanna lose my vagina girl. I was getting that. Something for it, something for her, man. Let's go get it, man.

SPEAKER_08 21:20

I was getting the cook boy.

SPEAKER_13 21:25

Let's go. This was my thing, this is my gym. I was shooting my shots at all the older ladies. Let's go. Let's go. Yeah, man, yo, yo, get B2K, hey yo, B2K.

SPEAKER_08 21:52

Stop. Stop. Like you but you think about another B2K song. Hey yo, probably. No, I'm not going to. I don't I don't play losers here.

SPEAKER_13 22:02

We don't play losers here. Okay? We don't play people who lost.

SPEAKER_08 22:05

B2K list were the ones who love. Like I promise you, every baddy at your school that anything that knew about any music, they like B2K.

SPEAKER_13 22:12

Nah, they was getting to this pretty Ricky, get this work. Okay. Quit playing out here. Alright, well that's what I'm saying. That's what was that what that's what we do it over here.

SPEAKER_08 22:20

Yep. And I know what type of stuff you do. He don't make love. He beat it up. Okay. B2K, like I said, man, there the time frames didn't work. I would have had like Jagged Edge up against. And you know, that's not a lot.

SPEAKER_13 22:36

That's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_08 22:37

Um even Drew Hill up against uh Pretty Reiki.

SPEAKER_13 22:40

Um I can see that too.

SPEAKER_08 22:42

It just wasn't a fair battle. That was not a fair battle. Because B2K wasn't on their growth. They did you got served. It was like seeing you got served on the biggest.

SPEAKER_13 22:51

It was like seeing the all-American varsity team versus that B team, not even JV. The freshman B team.

SPEAKER_08 22:57

The freshman, you know what I'm saying? So but overall, we already know, like pretty Ricky Kelp did. But shout out to B2K, because they still going, you know, you know who's at the end.

SPEAKER_13 23:07

So we need we need another one. We need another pretty Ricky versus.

SPEAKER_08 23:10

We need an actual better one for them, right? So I would definitely put it.

SPEAKER_13 23:13

I don't know about Drew Hill.

SPEAKER_08 23:14

Man, you crazy.

SPEAKER_13 23:16

Nah, I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_08 23:17

What bye?

SPEAKER_13 23:18

Don't know about that.

SPEAKER_08 23:19

Take you seriously.

SPEAKER_13 23:20

Give me, give me, give me, give me three, give me three Drew Hill songs. Give me three.

SPEAKER_08 23:25

That's one. Uh somebody sleeping in my bed. Yeah, that's two. Uh, beauty is her name. She walks by me every day. Uh give me another. Another one for good magic. Give me another one for good magic. Because you don't know. I know. I know. That's okay. Then you give me two. Give me one. You don't know any. Don't know any. So, Cush, I'm from Baltimore. Boy, that name came from Jewell Park. Don't ever play me by my boys. Gang gang. Baltimore in the building. It gets pretty ricky though. Pretty ricky. Because I'm talking about hits now, right? Okay, but since you don't know them, let's do Jagged is. You know what I'm saying? Okay, thank you.

SPEAKER_13 23:59

Thank you. You know what I'm saying? That's a good one. Do you need help?

SPEAKER_08 24:03

Because you need the help with Drew Hill and they was at the same time.

SPEAKER_13 24:06

Don't play with him.

SPEAKER_08 24:06

Okay, I'm making sure uncle.

SPEAKER_13 24:08

I agree with you that Jagg is.

SPEAKER_08 24:09

No, I know he's on this side of the world.

SPEAKER_13 24:11

I just said that I agreed. So we're good. We're not to do that. Don't pull my card like that.

SPEAKER_08 24:14

Hey, come on now. My RB card is not that strong. RB is my lane. I know that's your lane. That's your lane.

SPEAKER_13 24:20

It's my it's not it's not deep. I'm not deep in that bag, but I'm getting into it. I'm getting into it, though. I'm getting into it though.

SPEAKER_08 24:26

I'm gonna get it right.

SPEAKER_13 24:27

Shoot, don't worry about it. You know what I mean? Oh, let's see. I'm all about monogamy out.

SPEAKER_08 24:33

I don't know. Pedro P though. I met Pedro P. Pretty Ricky came out and the way they did it was so Miami, so Florida, like, you know. So, but it overall, you know, I enjoy watching it. I hated whoever dressed them uh for pretty all of them look eight months pregnant, except for spectacular, and he was humping the heck out that chair. I know he hurt his waist. Pelvics.

SPEAKER_13 24:57

No, like I was begging for that jacket to get unbuttoned. I was like, dog.

SPEAKER_08 25:02

No, that button was begging to be unbuttoned.

SPEAKER_13 25:06

You know what I'm saying, man. If you out here, I understand, man. You get older, man, you know what I'm saying? You body changes and stuff like that. It's it's fine.

SPEAKER_08 25:14

But you're supposed to get things tailored to you.

SPEAKER_13 25:16

Like, oh, but what I'm saying is, yo, that's it. You know what I'm saying? Rock the rock the jewels, rock, rock, you know what I mean, and just put the jacket open, man, let the belly show.

SPEAKER_08 25:26

Man, let the belly show. I'll be on that, let the belly show.

SPEAKER_13 25:29

You feel me?

SPEAKER_08 25:30

I ain't mad at you.

SPEAKER_13 25:31

No one's mad at you.

SPEAKER_08 25:32

Yeah, you on stage and baby.

SPEAKER_13 25:34

Be on some, you know what I'm saying? Some Rick Ross type thing. That's we another Florida boy. Right. I mean, what y'all doing?

SPEAKER_08 25:41

I don't know, but other than that, that's my only complaint. But yeah, that that wasn't bad.

SPEAKER_13 25:44

Nah, that outfit was crazy. Yeah. That outfit was crazy. Trick Daddy was on that stage, boy. Boy, look bloated as hell. That waterway is crazy as fuck, man. Nah, he needs to go to the doctor, man.

SPEAKER_08 26:01

He lucky needs to be drained.

SPEAKER_13 26:02

He needs to go to the doctor. Hell no.

SPEAKER_08 26:06

Trick Daddy, man. Hey. You know what I mean? But brother.

SPEAKER_13 26:14

Cortisol levels, man.

SPEAKER_08 26:15

Bro, okay. Somebody said everybody up, they need to check their sugar.

SPEAKER_13 26:18

Check, check, man. Diabetes, bro. You feel me, dog.

SPEAKER_08 26:22

Hey, but he actually do got diabetes, so. That's what I'm saying, man. He definitely needs go to the shit.

SPEAKER_13 26:27

Slow down, slow down the drinks, big dog. We know.

SPEAKER_08 26:31

We get it, but it is. But hey, man, thoughts and praise, man.

SPEAKER_13 26:34

I just want to see Trick Daddy at an old age. That's it.

SPEAKER_08 26:36

Hey, we seen it.

SPEAKER_13 26:38

No, no, at an old age. I want to see, I want to see a boy like.

SPEAKER_08 26:40

What do you think Trick Daddy is?

SPEAKER_13 26:41

Like 50? 52?

SPEAKER_08 26:43

That's close to it.

SPEAKER_13 26:45

Nah, he about he by his early 50s. He ain't that old. Because he was about like what? In our he's about in his 20s.

SPEAKER_08 26:58

And she graduated years before me. That's when I heard that niggas. Man, how old is this nigga? I'm telling you. Okay, he's 51. Yeah, he ain't that old. But I'm saying though, like, oh, his birthday the same day as mine. Libra game.

SPEAKER_13 27:12

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08 27:12

I'm supposed to be famous. I'm about to stop playing with y'all. I'm about to stop playing with y'all and just walk into my life.

SPEAKER_13 27:17

What would you do if you was famous though?

SPEAKER_08 27:18

I ain't worried about being famous. Um What would you do? But what would I do? I would just be the best meme. What I already do. You know what I mean? Show love, spread love, and keep doing these shows and dropping these darts. And having a good time with my family.

SPEAKER_13 27:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 27:30

I'll do the same.

SPEAKER_13 27:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:32

It don't have to change.

SPEAKER_13 27:33

Um yeah, yeah. That versus you did it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 27:37

We smoked that? We smoked that.

SPEAKER_13 27:39

Um wanna do some versus versus then?

SPEAKER_08 27:42

Versus versus. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_13 27:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Since we're on music real quick. Actually, no. Any new music they want to bring to the folks' attention because I have not really heard much. There is a song I'm going to share for the music break, but I'm going to do like a whole prep.

SPEAKER_08 27:58

Music. Hold on, I gotta collect. Oh, cause I got a bunch of stuff we can drop. Okay. We're gonna have to collect that one. That one was thrown out there. But what we can hit on real quick since we're talking music and verses, um, since we're doing it for the culture. Okay. The BET Awards. Let's go. That just came out. I haven't watched the whole thing. Don't hold it against me, but I wanna say shout out to Drewski. He held it down. I feel like this one, like we said, it was the best one. In like 15 years. 10, 15 years, for real. For sure. It genuinely felt like it was for us by us. Yeah. Uh shout out to Tiana Taylor. You know, she got icon of the year. Love that for her.

SPEAKER_13 28:32

I know that was fire.

SPEAKER_08 28:33

My boy Trap Dickie, he was in the running. Olivia Dean won Best New Artist, but that boy is straight from South Carolina, and he's in the lineup, okay? So let's go. So I I enjoy what I've seen so far, Kiki Palmer. You had anything that you liked so far that you sing? I know you didn't watch the whole thing.

SPEAKER_13 28:48

I didn't watch the whole thing either. Um, but from what I did see and what I did gather, it was a it was the best, again, the best BET awards in like 15 years. But that man, Drewski, man.

SPEAKER_08 28:59

The whole thing is kid.

SPEAKER_13 29:00

Hey, Neil, I love the creativity. I love the fact that I love the fact that Kiki Palmer, you know what I mean, that had a little like a little bit and stuff like that, a little back.

SPEAKER_08 29:07

She secured her job next year for uh posting.

SPEAKER_13 29:10

For sure.

SPEAKER_08 29:11

Clips one album of the year. I'm surprised you ain't go crazy over that. Because you that's your album. You was bumping that. You definitely put on for that album on this. I have to say that on this podcast, you definitely been holding it. Of course.

SPEAKER_13 29:21

I told, hey man. Yeah. It's like when you know it was like you shoot in a bucket and you know it's going in. You can just turn around and walk away with it. Like, soon as I heard that album, no, no, no, thank you for bringing me to life real quick. Thank you.

SPEAKER_08 29:35

Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_13 29:37

Okay, I told everybody when when the album dropped, yo, this is the album of the year. Y'all wanna y'all wanna talk? Y'all wanna tyre the creative chromocopia of me to death.

SPEAKER_08 29:47

They won album on the year.

SPEAKER_13 29:48

Psych! Y'all wanna, y'all wanna, y'all wanna Kendrick G and X me to death? No. Nah, I knew from the jump. Them two 50-year-old dudes made a classic. And didn't even show up to get to get didn't even care. Like 50-year-old men. I love that. Yeah, man. Shout out to the clips, man. I also love um Yeah, that's me again.

SPEAKER_08 30:10

That Bow Wow. I'm gonna call him Bow. I usually call him little Bow Wow, but I'm gonna put a little respect on it. Bow Wow, he did his Tiny Desk concert. And he had the first one that was done live on like TV before the BET awards. So like that's the first time they ever done it. Usually it's pre-recorded, and then they dropped the Tiny Desk on YouTube. So shout out to him for continuing to make, you know, big moves. Everybody slept on it, but he's been making big moves since he came out. I ain't even gonna hold it.

SPEAKER_13 30:36

Hey man, look.

SPEAKER_08 30:37

So I'm here for it. I love it.

SPEAKER_13 30:38

Jet or no Jet?

SPEAKER_08 30:40

You know? Shut up. Cause that jet was that Jet was crazy. He tried it. Now I ain't never say I'll go ahead and try it. See, now here that was little bow wow. See the difference? That was little bow wow. You just don't know. No way you walked crazy work. Crazy work. Crazy work. But yeah, man, like um, so far so good. Also, shout out to Tim's. I absolutely love her. She's just so fine as hell, crazy. Oh my god. Olivia Dean, shout out to her, female artists I did. Cardi B one uh female rapper, which I'm not surprised, she earned it. She got what every concert, every uh show she did was sold out, right? On her tour.

SPEAKER_10 31:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 31:20

And that's that's amazing. That's amazing. You know what I'm saying? Coming from a stripper to love and hip hop to this is like, you know, so shout out to that. We gotta watch more of it, but you know, so far so good. I'm excited about it. Laura Hill, she showed up on time. Hey! My girl. Hey, she heard me.

SPEAKER_13 31:39

She heard me talking. Okay, definitely. She heard me. She, I'm telling you. Thank you. Jesus.

SPEAKER_08 31:44

So I'm here for it, you know. What's it that hard? I mean Miss Hill. I ain't gonna hold you. Miss Hill can show up whenever she wants. No, she can't. Nothing has top. She has to be a professional. She can't. She definitely just got living. I like, come on, bro. She just got an award and she showed up on time. If you're gonna show up.

SPEAKER_13 32:00

She showed up on time. I'm trying to give her your flowers.

SPEAKER_08 32:03

I know. This is the best time to do it if you're gonna do it. I'm doing it right now. I'm doing it on time. No, no, I'm talking about her. Showing up on time. Yeah, okay. Ain't nothing taught Miss Educational Arnhill yet. Classic. She generally doesn't have to drop another album.

SPEAKER_13 32:22

Alright.

SPEAKER_08 32:23

You disagree?

SPEAKER_13 32:24

Yes. Of course you will. Yes. Oh my god, from the bottom of my heart, do I disagree? But we ain't gotta get into it. Of course I did. I get it. I don't know. I do, I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 32:36

I gotta wait till you get more of your RB back, bro. Okay.

SPEAKER_13 32:44

What was it? Um what else what else is this? Oh, um, yo, Benny the Butcher. The plugs I met 2.5 was a fresh five pack of ass, my dude. I don't know since Griselda, y'all broke up. I don't know. I don't care about all that. I Conway still spitting. You sir have taken a nosedive lyrically. No, no, no. Benny the Butcher. Benjamin the Butcher. Terrible, man. That was a terrible project. I was severely underwhelmed. I was excited for it. But no, that project was ass. But shout out to um 38 Special Spe uh Special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's his name.

SPEAKER_08 33:37

And if y'all don't know who you're talking about, look him up.

SPEAKER_13 33:39

38 Special on his verse. I'm gonna say, uh, hold on.

SPEAKER_08 33:43

You're gonna have to play it. I'm gonna go to the game.

SPEAKER_13 33:44

I'm gonna play it, man. Hold on.

SPEAKER_08 33:47

He keeps me up on these on these rockers. Like I used to listen to him back in the day, but you know, after a while.

unknown 33:51

Nah.

SPEAKER_08 33:52

I still rock with ready gives on like him. They find you like that.

SPEAKER_13 33:55

Benny the Butcher, dog. He really just really disappointed me with this project. I was looking forward to it too. But Rise and Fall, man. Um, 38 Special, El Camino, and Benny the Butcher. Hold on, man. I'm gonna have to get y'all to it, man. It's the only, only bar, only song that he's actually rapped in it. So.

SPEAKER_07 34:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 34:14

Benny was spinning on this one. This only one. Let's go, man. We're gonna let this thing rock real quick.

SPEAKER_12 34:22

Yo, be careful what you wish for. This type of cake, you don't make a license. This shit come with snakes in the 848 indictment. The streets ain't safe to be straight, they can pay the pipe in it. That nigga's on the hate because I'm broke and can't pay the pipe. You know the bummer don't tell me. I'm pressing a button on this dummy. I'm a pumper and number like the mama, the rumble. The bummer, the bummer be public. I got a mummy, so my money comes. I'm on the bill of boy, come on, boy, mummy. I'm gonna clean it in the bummer down. I'm gonna get up to me. My first memory was like my phone down. My chin's moving like a phone down. My young son for the game, I'm gonna find it when I want to find a gum.

SPEAKER_11 35:34

Then I'm gonna get my hands and find a hand. Don't just work for the day, work for the days and worry. My hands come from feet in the wrong room. I got black moments wingin' and dumb spoon. Millionaires in the rum room. If you pillow steady, make sure the silver wins the rum spoon. You bury me in bread, you bury me with leg. You gonna see that the wave to kill me in dead. And these holes are scary, I said. I seen them fuck the whole city, move out with minimum to lead. I kept the whole building bed. I was bringing lamb to the town when y'all was getting airy from dreads. Got a rich from various meds, told Harry, give me a beat on the rappers in the area fled. Trust.

SPEAKER_13 36:19

Come on, man. That was like okay, that was the only that was the only record on that project. That was the only record. On that whole project, but yeah, man.

SPEAKER_08 36:30

Well, you don't speak it because they did a good segue with that verse. Um, The Rise and Fall. I didn't want to talk about the rise and fall of Dame Dash, especially with the B Z one as um Jay-Z, you know, and we've been talking about him a lot. He's popping back out, and then he's about to drop it out, because he's outside, he's dropping merch for ridiculous prices, or whatever. Right. Um Dane Dash and Jay-Z were once the duo. That's how Rockefeller and The Rock and all that came to be. And it's so crazy that he definitely like a lead and all. I mean, regardless of how it knew he he was a part of the culture at one point and a heavy part of it. Like Jay-Z and him were rocking, and it's so wild to me that we got Jay-Z still here, but Dane Dash is really just I mean, he knocked himself off.

SPEAKER_13 37:18

Yeah, I mean, for the most part, that's what happens when you know ego goes on check for sure.

SPEAKER_07 37:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 37:22

Um, from what I'm saying from the outside looking in, he had the potential to be that because he was like being comparable to Puff.

SPEAKER_08 37:30

Exactly. At his at their height. Yep. He was on that. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 37:33

Like there was hip-hop, moguls, and you know, moguls and tycoons. You know what I mean? So that was really um influential on the business side of the music industry. Right. And that's what we love to see, like, you know, I mean, like someone actually doing it, but maybe that was that was like for performance purposes only, or just like, you know what I mean? Like, maybe that was just like, you know, just um I don't think it was performance.

SPEAKER_08 37:55

I think he got, I'm about to use a big word on y'all. He got two braggadocious, you know what I mean? He got he got way ahead of himself. He thought he was like, how he treated people was crazy. He thought he was bigger than the program.

SPEAKER_13 38:05

How he treats people is insane.

SPEAKER_08 38:06

How he treats people, and I get that he's a New York dude, but at the same time, you can't you walking in a room for these people who you want with all all these millions of dollars, you want them to put all this money into you and you talking to them like they work for you. You know what I mean? Which is crazy. And then I you know, I had to look it up again because I'm like, what really made it like besides him falling out with Jay-Z and just being very disrespectful with his mouth, um, he he just made a bunch of like bad investments. He wasn't paying his taxes, um, which like we've talked about.

SPEAKER_13 38:38

Figure that you're bigger than the program.

SPEAKER_08 38:40

Lavish spending habits that outpace his income.

SPEAKER_13 38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 38:44

And we talked about that. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_13 38:46

Like financial literacy and responsibility is key, yo. Yep. It's key. Yep. And you know, maybe that um that's what Dame Dash represents. That he represents as, you know what I mean, like you can you could talk about like, yeah, I got money, I get money, I'm rich. But, you know what I mean, is what you do when you get it.

SPEAKER_08 39:08

I just think it's so crazy, though, that's what I'm saying. That's what they don't know like.

SPEAKER_13 39:10

Everybody wants no, but everybody wants to be rich, wants to have the bag, wants to like, you know, live the luxurious, glamorous lifestyle and stuff like that. But that that cost, and again, it's just like it's it's financially irresponsible. Like you've got to have like that too. Again, like we his business practices and how he went about them. He had it, no, visionary. No, no, he had it going. But like again, it's how you treat people, how you go about, you know what I mean, by your business endeavors. And again, financial responsibility and literacy, you know what I mean? Like, like, give me Dame Dash's network at one point. Over 25 million. You wouldn't, I I wouldn't, you would never see me broke again.

SPEAKER_08 39:53

Yeah, his mouth was right in the checks.

SPEAKER_13 39:56

Right. And then he was in prime position to make that 25 million, a hundred million.

SPEAKER_08 40:00

I mean, J Z.

SPEAKER_13 40:01

200 million to 200 million. Jay Z did it. That's 200 million to 500 million, like you know. Um just like that, that unnecessary competition, like who who made Rockefeller big? Was it Jay or was it me? Type type thing. It's like we guys being uh you know competition with each other, you could have been still uh a dominant record label to this day if y'all let aside. He he's an ego-driven. Yeah, that's his problem though. That's what that's what that's a rise and fall for everybody. Like I said, his but people don't understand when you rise and we get to the top of things, that's when you gotta be at your most aware.

SPEAKER_08 40:41

And I think he he he he had the right ideas on a thing, like, yeah, you want to have your own, you know, entrepreneurship, you want to have your own, you want to own everything, and you know, but it's just like you that's the case, then you gotta go set yourself up to be in that. But there's a way to go about that. Exactly, exactly. So I think we should be a couple of things.

SPEAKER_13 41:03

We talk about how we don't want to be political and dodge politics, but everything is politics.

SPEAKER_08 41:08

Everything is politics, everything is politics and responsibility. Everything is politics. Everything embodies the two things you're not supposed to talk about. You feel me? So, like, I don't know. I just I just hate that so many people who were a part of the culture literally wrote themselves out of the culture. Out of out of being spoken about, out of getting away. Again, just not moving out.

SPEAKER_13 41:31

Just not moving with the uh unless we counted him. Just not moving with Koof.

SPEAKER_08 41:35

And it's just sad, you know? Because he did help us get a Leah.

SPEAKER_13 41:38

But again, but again, like when you rise, right? When you're at that top, when you feel like, oh yeah, I'm here, that's when you gotta be at your most aware. And at your and at your most humble, you know what I mean? Jay-Z. Like for real. For real, though.

SPEAKER_08 41:53

Jay-Z really played the game.

SPEAKER_13 41:55

Like a lot of people want to be like, oh, I got here, because you know I mean whatever their self-cause what you did, your self-grew. Whatever their self-gratifying um reason is, but truth be told. Truth be told, it's all about how you stay here. And knowing that when you're gonna be there when you get there, it's not gonna last forever. Well, it goes up, must come down. But there is a fall, great, uh, a fall of grace.

SPEAKER_08 42:20

But there is a graceful fall for that fall. There's a graceful fall, and everything that don't go up don't have to come down.

SPEAKER_13 42:26

It don't have to come down, but you know, it's gonna gradually tailor down. You know what I'm saying? Again, a graceful fall.

SPEAKER_08 42:34

Jay-Z ain't fall yet. That's why I'm saying it. Because Jay, but has he? He he's not, he's still being smoked about Drewski. Literally just threw up the rock while Ice Q was talking. He's still part of the culture. We literally just talked about him not too long ago. Just doing his, he come, he come out of his locks in the whole world talking about it. Has he fallen? He's selling his merch right now from the Apple Store little event he did for twelve hundred dollars. He sold out of his jackets.

SPEAKER_13 42:58

Oh, never mind that.

SPEAKER_08 42:59

He has not fallen.

SPEAKER_13 43:00

He has not fallen.

SPEAKER_08 43:01

That's what I'm saying, baby. So some people don't have to fall. It's about how you what do you do with it once you get there? How do we stay here and keep it going? And that's where he messed up. Ego got in the way.

SPEAKER_13 43:12

Consistency is key.

SPEAKER_08 43:13

Exactly. And not talking too much. Sometimes you gotta shut up.

SPEAKER_13 43:16

I'm learning that. Me too. Now that's something I gotta learn in life. And don't get me wrong. Shut your mouth. And again, everything that is said on this podcast, for the most part, is for entertainment purposes only. And I say that at the top of every episode. Because it's important. Because it's important for me to clarify.

SPEAKER_08 43:36

Because also, that's what I like about us, though. That's why I said we're authenticated. Because sometimes as we're going, we'll start somewhere.

SPEAKER_13 43:41

I'm letting you know I'm gonna bullshit you.

SPEAKER_08 43:43

We'll start somewhere with it.

SPEAKER_13 43:44

But we're gonna be real about us bullshitting.

SPEAKER_08 43:47

And we're willing to learn as we go along. Right. I love that. So, like, yeah. We'll never be gang dashed out by the air.

SPEAKER_13 44:02

No, no.

SPEAKER_08 44:04

We'll never be dashed out here.

SPEAKER_13 44:05

We'll never do that.

SPEAKER_08 44:06

Okay, the only dash that's happening is when, you know, the beginning and the end.

SPEAKER_13 44:11

But again, like cautionary tale.

SPEAKER_08 44:13

Yeah, but he's a cautionary tale.

SPEAKER_13 44:15

Across all the boards, man. Just like go about your business in a very professional, in a very cordial stance. Treat people with respect and grace.

SPEAKER_08 44:23

And study the cautionary tale.

SPEAKER_13 44:25

No, treat everybody with respect and grace. Feel me saying go just go about things in a very professional and cordial manner. And you'll be alright. You'll be alright. But like when you get to a level of success where it's just like people are just singing your praises, don't let that thing go to your head, man. Right. Watch it, though, like uh really be humble. Right?

SPEAKER_08 44:50

Like he went up, and then he did have a fall with all his rhetoric, he started, you know.

SPEAKER_10 44:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 44:55

And now look what he's doing. He's selling, he's he's back out doing shows, popping up places, setting up million dollar shows, and selling the tickets for $35.

SPEAKER_13 45:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 45:04

Come on, man. Kanye West.

SPEAKER_13 45:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 45:07

That's something like our local show for me and you. Y'all put it out there.

SPEAKER_13 45:13

I'll pay $35. I pay $35 to go see. I'll pay $35 to $60. That's easy, but that's crazy. That's easy. That's an easy ticket.

SPEAKER_08 45:20

So, but you see how he's building himself back up from here, so now that's where you're talking about the caution intel. If you fall, how you pick yourself back up? Can't do it. You gotta humble yourself, like you said. So I'm with my boy.

SPEAKER_13 45:31

Humility, man. This is coming from me, facade.

SPEAKER_08 45:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 45:35

Humility is key.

SPEAKER_08 45:36

Yeah, that's saying a lot.

SPEAKER_13 45:38

This is coming from me now. Think about that. Alright.

SPEAKER_08 45:42

Alright, then we do a music break and then we're gonna get a little bit more. No, we're gonna get some verses. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 45:47

I'm gonna get some verses versus first. I'm gonna I'm gonna pee. That's some reason why. Let me give you a few. Let's do a few, and I got you.

SPEAKER_08 45:56

I love it.

SPEAKER_13 45:57

Alright, Nas New York State of Mind verse 1 versus Kendrick Lamar's DNA verse 2. Nash, that was an easy one. Okay, alright.

SPEAKER_08 46:08

Love Kendrick, but come on, baby.

SPEAKER_13 46:11

Alright, Eminem's Rap God verse 3 versus Andre 3000's Equimini verse 3.

SPEAKER_05 46:17

Ooh. Ooh.

SPEAKER_08 46:22

Yeah. Can I hear a little piece of um Eminem's verse? I know I think I got that. I need to hear it. Oh, that's hard.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

I'm trying to censor you like that one line. I said all I'm back from the math is LP one when I try to sell. Take seven kids from column by put them all in a line at an AK47. And the revolver and I'm not see if I get away with it now that I ain't as big as I was. But I'm more finished to an immortal, coming through the portal. You're stuck in a time war. Hundred thousand photo. And I don't know what the fuck that you might want. You're pointless as my bundle with fucking cornrows.

SPEAKER_00 47:20

Like normal for being normal. And I just bought a new raccoon from the future, just to come and shoot you. Like when Cabinet is made Ray J mad. His fat city with the flag, and they were his pad seen into a man. How he played pay rano. Man, oh man, that was a twenty four second special on the cable channel. So Ray J went straight to the radio station.

SPEAKER_07 47:35

The very human what I gotta do to get it through to you, super human innovative animated rubber, so they're gonna be a little bit more.

SPEAKER_08 47:49

Damn.

SPEAKER_13 47:51

This one's a little tough one.

SPEAKER_08 47:52

It's so too because like the time.

SPEAKER_13 47:55

But it's still still two very lyrical verses.

SPEAKER_08 47:59

It is.

SPEAKER_13 47:59

I'm gonna go with um two very lyrical verses.

SPEAKER_08 48:01

I'm gonna go without I'm gonna go without I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go without I'm gonna go with the.

SPEAKER_13 48:08

Man, you pick yours first. No, you got you. I'm gonna go with Andre. Oh, you're crazy. I'm going M.

SPEAKER_08 48:15

I'm gonna go with Andre.

SPEAKER_13 48:16

Going M and M, man. I love it, love, love, love, love three sacks.

SPEAKER_08 48:19

I love three sacks. That's why I like three.

SPEAKER_13 48:21

The technique and the in the bar structure and the rap guard verse three was insane. He killed that.

SPEAKER_08 48:26

That's what I'm saying. That one was too hard for me. Honestly, both of them. But I can't keep both.

SPEAKER_13 48:30

Can't do it, can't do it.

SPEAKER_08 48:30

I'm gonna do it because, you know.

unknown 48:32

Alright.

SPEAKER_08 48:33

Happy June.

SPEAKER_13 48:37

Alright. One last one that we're gonna get out of here. That means great. Uh, Lil Wayne's six foot, seven foot verse one. Versus J. Cole's fire squad verse three. Yeah, another one.

SPEAKER_08 49:04

Okay, I'm gonna go with J. Cole. Honestly. And I love little Wayne, I was gonna be biased, but honestly.

SPEAKER_13 49:09

I knew you. I was hoping you're gonna be there.

SPEAKER_08 49:11

I was gonna be biased, but I can't be biased because J. Cole smoked that over what Wayne did. Like Wayne cuted, but J. Cole smoked that. So I can't be biased. Cole did that. Gotcha, gotcha.

SPEAKER_13 49:22

Alright, um, music break real quick, but again, I just wanna. This music break is gonna be a little different because I just stumbled upon this new artist that I just kind of came across with TikTok. Her name is Earth Sign Chells. Okay. Um, she got this song. It's morbid. Don't get me wrong. It's it's it's it's you do your morbid one?

SPEAKER_08 49:42

I'll do one right now.

SPEAKER_13 49:43

But but it slaps though. Okay. It's some heat though. But it but it you know what I mean? It's a tough listen. She's like Nicki Minaj and Kendrick Lamar together. Okay. Very interesting style, very interesting flow. I loved it, but the song is called Daddy Died.

SPEAKER_08 50:00

Oh, I heard okay, I heard it. I actually, that joint fire. I actually seen when she did the video little joint for. That joint fire, and I have one for you to follow up with that's like on balance of scales. That's a new one. How about that?

SPEAKER_13 50:13

All right, bad.

SPEAKER_08 50:14

Oh, yeah, this one's dope, though. But it's enormous, insane.

SPEAKER_13 50:18

It's insanely dope. But it's fire. Her flow is crazy. Crazy flow I ever heard in my fucking life.

SPEAKER_08 50:23

Well, real words, yeah. Okay, I'm liking this. I'm liking this.

SPEAKER_13 50:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So okay, cool, cool, cool. We're gonna get to it.

SPEAKER_14 50:41

My daddy died. Mommy cried, that's her eye. I pop us tied amazing life. Amazingly and homely eyes. From niggas. Nigga love me better. Pray I do not pull that trigger. Intelligent, I play the music, watch your back. I get my way in that jump. Daddy taught me that. I don't know how to act. Don't like this, I'm his body gave me heart to tap. I pray I give my punish room up on my hat. Tell my call my soul to get my daddy back. It's holiday, hell, my back. I drop my buddy back. Bring me up just once again. You haven't seen the chip that seen the whips up on my back. I stand up on my toes and tip my motherfucking hat. I clap my stand up in my cry. I'm giving my congrats. You lived a good lineup, 1956 woman. But your baby, no way seed amounted TV room tie. Like the corner room, the passapod, my bleeding dude die. My daddy died. Nigga, bitch niggas wanna talk me when I'm on the street. Bitch doors on hug my caddies, not a Maybelline. Bitch stuck here on my teddy screaming fuck with G. Bad promote, bad, bad villain, T, my daddy died. I don't give a fuck about them niggas, don't need to be clear with them, my daddy died. I don't give a fuck about these niggas, don't need to be glue with them, my daddy died. Don't test me, I'm prone to get guilty. My daddy died. Want me to do my daddy died? Of course it's daddy. Here when the voices they be fortunate, well I'm unfortunately. They just told me about the team to win to water you kid. I'ma spill you, I'ma kill you, I'm a spoiler shit. I'll let it hold on. I'm gonna t shit. You want my toilet with my turn in it's more. I drop the head and you can have the next blow. I brought some winning, you made your fist with blue. You wanna take a bit, come on, but then I don't want to put a pick up. You might come by the lip, you want your child, you call a little. Yeah, bitch, yeah, bitch, please fill. I'm gonna fuck my shit. Just give me a fine cake, talk my shit, my daddy time. When you kid no one, you little up in like a hat skip. Get the catch by no say he's supposed to remove access. I still need move the kids a lot like no sis. Get the pocket spin burn, I'm just gonna add this. Mine I need time. I got conscious about that. Put the fuck up in my kidneys, I've been pissed about shit. If it's T and B on TV, I'm your little rough rap. We'll be doing it that you die. I don't give a fuck about them niggas, don't need to be cool with them, my daddy died. I don't give a fuck about these niggas, don't need to be cool with them, my daddy died. Don't test me. I come to get filty. My daddy died. What me to do? My daddy died.

SPEAKER_10 54:45

Yay!

SPEAKER_16 54:53

Gotta celebrate that.

SPEAKER_06 54:54

I got joy on me. I can hide this gold. This blow. Bless is falling down everywhere I go. Y'all will let me up when I'm feeling low. Now I'm smallin' through the pain, cause he healed my soul.

SPEAKER_15 55:07

I got peace on me, get my spirit free.

SPEAKER_06 55:17

That's the reason I shine, that's the victory.

SPEAKER_15 55:20

I remember dark nights, now the stone's too bright. Every prayer that I pray turn around too right. Could have broken the storm, but I found my name. Now I dance through the rain. No more heavy chain. I ain't stressing on the hate, I just live in peace. Every day is a gift, let the joy increase from the lows to the highs, to the low stuff.

SPEAKER_06 55:43

With the cry when the beacon I got joy on me, I can't hide this gold. This gold small and down everywhere I go.

SPEAKER_15 55:51

I beat it. I got a big spinning. I wanna plan it, let the future scroll. I'm reading on my soul, my mama's friends, let the woman's kids.

SPEAKER_16 57:44

Ballerinas doing pirouettes inside of my snack. Hold up, hold up. Hold up, ace trumpets in rose mode. Yellow diamonds look like PP. Bitches fly from DC on my private to YQ. Three P.

SPEAKER_13 58:03

Alright, man, I ain't gonna cut y'all to death. Alright, hold up, hold up, hold up. Where we at? Where we at? Okay. We got some topics. We got s I got some questions. Alright, actually. Alright, we're gonna do this thing. I'm gonna do this thing. I'm gonna play this game with you. It's called Crash Out or Stand On Business. Okay. I'm gonna give you a scenario. And you're gonna tell me whether, you know, crash out or you're gonna stand on business. Okay. Okay. Your sibling wins fifty million dollars. They give something to every single family member. Except you. Oh, I'm crashing out.

SPEAKER_08 58:56

Okay, Ashley knows better. Okay. Baby, it was just the two of us. Okay, for a minute, honey. And I cry I oh no. We not even finish. Crash out. She ain't even finished. That shit is crazy. I don't care. Crash out. I I thought it just the thought of it made me crash out of my head. So I can't let you finish. Ashley Nicole know better.

SPEAKER_10 59:28

Oh man.

SPEAKER_08 59:29

Ain't no way. She called me every day and every night. Okay. Crashing. I don't even know if I'm going out or NASCAR.

SPEAKER_13 59:39

I'm NASCAR. No, uh, nah, Kiki not doing me right.

SPEAKER_08 59:48

Okay, I'm about to say, I wish.

SPEAKER_13 59:50

Now my brother did that. I'm letting me know.

SPEAKER_08 59:52

I mean, yes, he you got more than one sitting to go off of, so like Kiki, I crashed out. Your brother.

SPEAKER_13 59:57

I'm gonna be like whatever, they keep your little funky ass. I'm not shocking. Oh, not shocking. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:00:05

Crazy. That's a crazy one. Alright.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:14

Your girl tells you that she has a work husband. You ask her to stop talking to her. She says you're insecure. Are you crashing out or are you standing out like this?

SPEAKER_08 1:00:28

Ew, that's what you're because if you had a work husband, I truly don't care. Um whatever, he making sure you eat, and I don't gotta stand up. But um if I told her to stop talking to him because clearly it's gone too far. Well, I'm standing on business. No, you're not gonna be a good thing. Yeah, no, you're on for that. Yeah, like you're not gonna play with me. I ain't gonna crash out, I'm gonna stay on business.

SPEAKER_13 1:00:54

Okay. Alright, um, yeah, same here. So your friend bought $200. So you see him posting bottles, got designer clothes, calling shows, and concerts, and they haven't paid you back. You crashing out, you sand over it. So the crash out includes call them out in public. Stop talking about them. But the sand over you let it slide.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:25

I mean, because some people just be fronting. You know what I mean? Could have had on their homies' designer, fronting their homies bottles, but at the same time, I'm probably just gonna crash out. And in today's economy, $200 is a lot of money.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:40

$200 is a lot of money.

SPEAKER_08 1:01:41

Okay, that's not $10. That's $200. $200. That can make the difference between a lot of things that can happen. Right. And I see you doing all this posting, and you ain't send me just uh nothing. Crashing out. Crashing out. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:01:54

Okay, last year. I'ma stand on business and just never let never give him two hundred, never give him another dollar ever again. That's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:06

And this today's economy, I have to say that. Because in this time, maybe if you got it like that, but then it's not a good thing. You shouldn't be getting a 200, I guess, if you don't got it like that. But what if you just don't that guys out of love? Like you got a 200 now and you really think they're gonna get it back to you.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:20

And if it's out of love, then why you worried about it?

SPEAKER_08 1:02:21

Well, but you think it's out of love when you tell them though, out of love, I'm doing this, but I genuinely need this back. Okay. Like I need this 200 back. Yeah, that's the difference. Like, if I give it to them and I don't care, I got it, stay on business, let it aside, because you should have known better. But I don't know. If I tell you that I need this back and you like, I got you. That's a big number today.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:43

But like you had the $200 to pay me back, but yet you're doing all the things.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:46

Oh, so that's what I'm saying. It's all the sex. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:02:50

Yeah, like that part is where I'm like, okay, you got it. I'm gonna let it slide and never give you another dollar ever. You come up to me and be like, oh, I need 20, damn, I ain't got it.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:58

No, no, because with people like that though, they're doing all that posting, I feel like that crash out that just to prove that they got money. They're gonna try to like stunt on you. That's fine, stunt on me. Just give me back my 200. And if you wanna be like, I ain't no broke boy, then throw that uh joint at the door. Cool. Cause I got my 200. So some things you crash out on. Everything you can't listen. 200 or not.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:19

200? Yeah, ain't nothing to sneeze at. It's definitely nothing.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:22

It's not today's honey.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:23

It's nothing to sneeze at.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:25

That's all.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:25

Um, all right, last one. Your best friend dates your ex five years later. I don't care. Cool. People need to stop doing that anymore.

SPEAKER_08 1:03:35

I don't care. Yeah. Five years later, I had a my best friend who dated my uh ex. And they weren't even really all weigh my ex a week later, honey. Slapped the hell out of him. We kept it moving. Still my best friend to this day. What up, kid doll? Turkey neck, and it's my girl.

SPEAKER_13 1:03:50

Oh. Before we move on to anything else, gotta bring it up. So good coochie strikes again. And got me watching Love Island.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:01

Ain't no way that's her nickname.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:03

No, that's not nickname.

unknown 1:04:04

Ha ha!

SPEAKER_13 1:04:06

That's not her nickname.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:08

I love no, it is now. You done messed up. Good coochie.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:12

We're not gonna make that in vain. GC. No, nobody knows what we're talking about.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:16

And I promise you, as a fellow Libra, take they gonna take that, okay? Yes. Jasmine Sutherland literally made a song about having the best Pete in the world, okay? Women want to hear that, so we're gonna call it good coochie.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:29

Alright, good coochie.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:29

Alright, so clearly she got you watching one.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:31

Got me watching Love Island.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:32

I ain't even watching that, and I'm gonna set for like that type, not that type of song.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:36

And look, of course I'm not watching from episode one. I kind of jumped into the.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:40

Oh no, that's no way. My boo wants me to start with that. I'm not even doing it. I'm telling that's crazy.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:45

Like, no. I ain't even want to watch it. Absolutely not. And there's like other like these shows be like an hour-long.

SPEAKER_08 1:04:49

But you kind of had me watching something with you, and I'm like, I can probably get into it now.

SPEAKER_13 1:04:53

It's funny. Because it's pure It's pure comedy to me. Because to me, to me, overall, it's love violently. This is for the ladies, of course.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:02

And this is where he has more experience than me. I'm just going to do it.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:05

It's for the ladies, you know what I mean? Because you know ladies come into the show.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:10

For fellas, though, get in with your ladies. Yeah. See what you're doing on.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:13

No other circumstances.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:14

I see what you do.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:15

But I'll be watching this show. Unless it was for the biggest. If it wasn't for some good coochie, it got me good coochie and good vibes.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:23

So good time.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:24

We here.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:25

Triple G. Oh, yeah. We got shout-outs on our um on our abbreviations. Anywho, oh man.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:35

Have not heard of people hear since.

SPEAKER_08 1:05:46

So your take on it.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:47

So, okay. So I'm like, all right, this is a bunch of kids performing to me, right? But it's like a look at it. But I remember like the past times that I I've I've seen this show.

SPEAKER_15 1:05:56

Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_13 1:05:57

This is not my first time in this situation. Um Um, but it's just like it's always the same model. You got like these influencers, these, you know, these it's Lust Island.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:07

Yeah, all these beautiful people.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:09

But like, like, you know, but like they're they they they fit the you know the European beauty standards and shit like that. You know what I mean? So like they're they're they're not because again, like some dark skinned babies. No, no, no, no. But they the the facial features are very Eurocentric.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:21

They're not, yeah, you're right, you're right. They're not Afrocentric, yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:24

They're very Eurocentric for sure. Um But I say that to say this because you know the inclusicity, uh it's not inclusive.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:34

I don't see like, you know, if you want me to believe that this is love, like, again, this is Love Island for real. These are people who are really like seeking love, even though, you know, it's on the TV screen and there's a whole bunch of people. But if you're trying, but like that, but if you're trying to really experiment with the human emotion and try to put it out for, you know, people's entertainment and display, get some real people in there.

SPEAKER_08 1:06:55

Get people who don't like everyday.

SPEAKER_13 1:06:57

Get some real people in there, not these influencers, fitness models, you know, like actors, celebrity, wannabes.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:05

You would like to see one based on.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:07

Let me get some real, I need to see some mom bobs.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:10

I need to see some dad bobs. I need to be dope.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:14

Yeah, let me get some, let me get some uh some dudes in their 30s in there.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:17

We might need to stop talking about that. We might even come right there. Come on, really.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:26

Like you're saying, get get all the pretty people in there, but mix in some right people.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:29

Mix it in because because that's not stuff be happening, though.

SPEAKER_13 1:07:32

So be happening. Like, come on now.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:34

Hey bro, I got goofy. We're gonna put a pin on it. Yeah, yeah, put a pin on that. That idea because yeah, smoke. Smoke and animals. But um I'm gonna. Oh, we're doing the casting too. Let me do the casting for that. You're always on the start by yourself. That's your problem now. Like I'm not sitting right here. Am I Casper? Am I Black Spirit? A black ass ghost?

SPEAKER_13 1:07:56

Oh no, not black-ass ghosts.

SPEAKER_08 1:07:58

But you know what I did notice, or what I will say, and I want your opinion on it, is based on what they're doing from what I seen, um, it's kinda it's it's kinda sad, I guess, a little bit. But um, isn't that how these this new generation kind of dates?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:13

And that's what I'm thinking of. Like, maybe I'm out of touch.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:15

And that's what I was saying. Maybe I'm out of touch. I think the amazing thing is that these people don't have cell phones.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:20

They don't have cell phones.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:21

At the same time, they are getting live streamed and you said they're recorded at all times.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:25

Even when they're sleeping.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:26

Even when they're sleeping.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:27

And see, that's that new generation thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:30

You know what I'm saying? So like maybe this is their way of finding love, but can it be real if they do it this way?

SPEAKER_13 1:08:35

But it's like, again, it's for entertainment purposes.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:37

I feel like everything, like, you know, so nobody has made it off of that show and still together.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:41

I don't think so. I mean, uh look, look at them. I'm pretty sure Love Island.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:45

Love Island.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:46

I'm pretty sure that's like one or two for the most part.

SPEAKER_08 1:08:49

Still together.

SPEAKER_13 1:08:50

Alright, we'll go with that later. But on this season, this is why this is why I bring the show up, because in this season, there's two people that is a talk of the town. They're all over threads, right? Yeah, talk about it. And it's this couple called Casey and Anaya, right? Again, I will say this for the record. I jumped in late, but from what I've gathered, because they do like flashbacks and all that stuff, and recaps and all that stuff, right? Seems like to me at first nobody picked Dude. Dude was just like, you know, single. He was single and vulnerable. Had nobody, you know what I mean? What the move? America voted.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:30

Because the tape line.

SPEAKER_13 1:09:33

Cry. But America voted for him and Anaya to, like, you know, kind of be together. And then I then they, you know, they linked up. They had a chat.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:41

Is that the one that was crying a river?

SPEAKER_13 1:09:42

Yes. Who cried a weep out? Who cried a whole dog cried? She cried a weep a sweep. She was looking like Janet Jackson and how why not get married too. No.

SPEAKER_08 1:09:56

This is my first time watching it, like actually watching an episode. And I just, I mean, I get you said it was three weeks, I guess.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:02

Yeah, okay, so yeah, so again, they're in this little island, little villa, little, you know, resort for three weeks at the time. At the time, that's what I'm saying. They're for like, yeah. So they like, you know, vibing, talking, getting to know each other, building a connection.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:16

Yeah, I mean, three weeks is a lot of time.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:18

Three weeks is a lot of time one-on-one with no cell phones, no distractions, and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:22

Well, you have to strengthen, because I'm basically mad enough. Shout out to the fellas for some nice looking dudes.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:28

For sure, for sure, for sure. But the whole point of that show is to go around and connect to see who you vibe with, who you connect with. You're not supposed to be like all locked down.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:37

Okay, so the whole thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:38

The whole point is to not be all super duper locked down. It's to see who who are you vibing with the most and who you like who's that connection.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:47

For the most part, for the most part. Like the first week, and then the second week, it's like, okay, round it down.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:52

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:53

And then by the third week, then we're gonna be 0101.

SPEAKER_13 1:10:56

That's how it should be. That's how it should be.

SPEAKER_08 1:10:58

Okay, because that makes sense to me.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:00

That's how it should be.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:01

People who crying like they've been there.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:03

Since day one, but that's not the case. Oh wow. She wanted to explore with the other. Oh no. And so throughout this whole interaction, they they're going back and forth. The matter of him wanting to explore other options kept on being brought up by Anaya. Right.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:16

Because he chose her from junk. He didn't explore no other options.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:19

No, America picked them, a pair of them together. Oh, wow. And they've just been rocking it together since then.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:24

Okay, that's interesting. I'm gonna have to check it out.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:26

Right, but they've been rocking together since then for the most part, right? From what I've gathered, right? And then again, fans, ladies of the show, if I'm wrong, please, please tap in. Oh, hold on, you don't gotta wear it. Let me know.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:37

Love Island is a show they watch. They about to blow it up if we wrong, if you wrong.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:41

For sure, for sure. But I'm not wrong with it.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:43

If you're wrong, they're gonna correct me so I can understand.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:45

So it's okay, and then you're gonna relay it to me because they never talk to me for some reason.

SPEAKER_08 1:11:48

You know, I've relayed it. Um what you gathered though, so I'm gonna go to the next one.

SPEAKER_13 1:11:51

What I've gathered, you know what I mean? Like, dude, throughout We Spit Job, so hence, like, yo, if you want to go out and explore, you find another connection that's better than this. If what I'm bringing to the table is not suitable for you, because throughout that whole entire time they're connecting or whatever, she's constantly complaining about, dude, he's never serious, you know. But he's only talking to her. But he's only talking to her. And she knows this, right? But yeah, been talking to her, Ben. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ben talking to her, been trying to rock with her, but like, you know what I'm saying? But like, oh, he never takes anything serious, booty booty boob. And then, like, for like one episode, it was like, you know, it was by him and his character, like him not being able to take things seriously. And she would have talked to him for the whole day.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:30

Because he laughed at the wrong moment or something? Oh, yes. But you know, some people don't know that's like a social anxiety thing. Yeah. I sometimes laugh at the wrong moment. I always laugh at the wrong moment. When it gets too a little too deep, I I giggle. And it's not because I think it's funny, it's just like I don't know what else to do. It's just or I'm gonna glitch out. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:12:45

Yeah, no, too sorry.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:46

Okay. So she thinks he's not serious, he played too much, played too much, boom, boom, boom.

SPEAKER_13 1:12:52

So this is what causes friction in the in the in the story right now, right? And the while this story is.

SPEAKER_08 1:12:57

And how did Carl get involved in?

SPEAKER_13 1:12:59

Okay, so so I'm about to walk you through it now. Let me slow walk this dog.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:03

Okay, I'm just I'm gonna ask a question.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:04

So why so while they uh so while they go into this little tense moment, right? There's this other um Islander called Soul. Like she was like this little Puerto Rican Dominican girl.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:14

I I I met a sort of thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:15

But KC was like trying to see what's up with Soul, but Soul was like the sun. Yeah, but Soul was like, you know, in a little three little triangle, low triangle with another dude and another chick. So that's okay. So was occupado. Soul was occupado, and KC was like, dang, I want to explore that, but I guess, you know, he, you know what I mean? She over there with here. What do we say? I was like, so in his mind, it's like, well, she's over there with him, I'm over here with her. I'm just gonna put my focus in on Anaya since Soul is unavailable. But if soul were to be available, I would like to explore. That's whole, that's KC's whole stance.

SPEAKER_08 1:13:50

Well, that's what this whole thing's about.

SPEAKER_13 1:13:52

Yeah, for the at the Corvus, Corvus thing. Like, that's K. Yeah, that's KC's soul stance. Like, hey, I'm here with you, but like not for nothing. If the opportunity comes across, I we would need to have a conversation. Right. But Anaya, not just taking, not just taking what you got, like, okay, well, like you we're rocking together right here, right now, so fuck fucks all. You know what I mean? Moving on. Fuck so. We're not, we're not, we don't we don't care about her. And just focus on like, you know, making things right and having a good vibe with him. She does everything to undermine the cut the experience, like connection short, and just does everything to undermine this dude left and right. So no matter what he does, yeah. So it's like yeah, so she's like making it hard, putting the guards up. It should be easy. Because he's putting like in a whole like he KC's putting in a whole lot of effort and not getting none of that in return. Get a lot of criticism in return.

SPEAKER_08 1:14:43

Now tell me what car is called.

SPEAKER_13 1:14:45

So, so now then a challenge happened or something like that. They were supposed to get together, but then like the producers say took told the guys like, hey, we're going to the other side of the resort and we're gonna bring in six new women for y'all to pick from and see what's going on over here. Woot de-woop. So they had themselves a blast with that. Oh, I believe that's okay. And then they live streamed it to the girls in the villa. And oh, oh, oh, pandemonium. Pandemonium over at there in the villa, right? But then I guess the next day they bring in 12 new dudes. Okay. So in this group of dude, that's where Carl comes in. Okay. Carl is like, you know, you ever seen uh Princess and the Frog, the Asian dude? That's it, that's it. Oh, you know what I mean? Like with that Cinderella movie. You know what I mean? With that, you know what I mean? It's cute little them two had like a little it was a cute little thing going on. They had a little something going on.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:41

They had a little chemistry happening.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:42

They had a little chemistry going on.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:44

Shout out to who meet.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:45

Had a little chemistry going on, right? Right. And so then, like, you know, then it was like time for like no people for who the dudes, the cats are to come back, because they're gone for like three, four days or something like that.

SPEAKER_08 1:15:54

So he was over here chilling with this.

SPEAKER_13 1:15:55

He was chilling, he he picked something new, something like something cute. You know what I'm saying? He picked kicking it with her. Yeah, he picked something else up, right? Okay. So it's so, but over there, man, you can see off the rib.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:06

But she also was doing the same thing, right? She was kicking it with Carl.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:09

Yeah, she was kicking it with Carl.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:10

Okay, so they both was doing it.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:12

So they both was kicking it with other people.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:14

Okay, now that part I didn't see. Okay, then so they both kicking it with other people, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:16:18

KC's over there vibing with TT Hart. You know what I mean? Because you know, those off the rip type of thing. He that that effortless thing that you was talking about, yeah. Bam, over there.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:28

She chose him and he didn't make him effortless. And he was all in the city.

SPEAKER_13 1:16:31

He was like, yep, you're we here. Okay. Okay, so but then it was time to like, you know, for the people to make their choice. Do you want to stay the connection with the dude you already had, or do you want to do the choose a new new dude? Yeah, her pick instead of him pick. Yeah, but so so KC picked TC. Like, no, I'm coming back here with her. We here, gang gang at five miles. Anaya.

SPEAKER_08 1:16:51

Well, I seen that part. I seen that part, hoodie. She looked at Carlfo. I was like, hey, Kilba, what's happening here? And she was like, I'm gonna go with KC. And it was like, you do know if he comes out single by himself, he chose you back. But he comes out with somebody else. You single and vulnerable.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:15

The craziest work.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:16

Well, he definitely came out.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:18

So, so then when that happened, pandemonium all over threads. Oh, yeah. Everybody's being, uh, everyone's really like cooking this KC dude. And I'm over here, like, why y'all cooking this dude for?

SPEAKER_08 1:17:30

Like, well, yeah, because why? But like, so from what I'm gathering, based on what you said, it's not even like KC got to have a conversation prior to like meeting, like meeting new people, like nobody.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:43

None of these dudes, none of these people knew.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:44

She also was entertaining somebody else.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:47

Somebody else, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:47

Just like he was.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:49

Which is good. I mean, that's what y'all here for.

SPEAKER_13 1:17:51

That's what you're here for.

SPEAKER_08 1:17:52

And based on what I'm hearing, you always kind of to uh the Anaya girl, she made him prove his everything when he didn't have to.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:00

Didn't have to, and but but with Carl, everything was so effortless.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:03

Okay, so he got the same thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:04

It was so smooth with Carl.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:06

Carl he got the same thing in T T and that's what he went with because that's what he's looking for.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:09

That's what effortless.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:11

He don't want to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:12

It's effortless of both sides.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:14

Okay, well, she just chose right now.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:15

She just chose wrong, but like then next thing you know eat with that.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:18

That's all that's all.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:20

And then they see something happened is this chick is crying up rivers and oceans and lakes.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:25

She thought she was gonna do her big one, choosing him after putting him through all the hurdles and stuff. And you know what? That's a learning lesson in that I know the whole thing.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:33

Women think that you gotta do that.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:35

But some men, if they come in from you straight from jump on that, like I I want you, I'm seeing you, this is it, this is what I'm doing. I ain't entertaining nothing. Despite me, even like you just keep undercutting that was somebody giving them that from jump.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:49

And he was honest about hey, if the opportunity ever would come up.

SPEAKER_08 1:18:52

Well, she should have He was honest about that. She should have locked it down from the jump. Yeah, forget so then, man.

SPEAKER_13 1:18:59

You here now, haha.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:00

Even when, yeah, she should have been shut that down. Shut that down. That's what happens when you lose out on a good one, you know. Hopefully he's a good one. Hopefully.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:08

I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:09

But I mean, but regardless of him being a good one or not, I mean that she played, she it sounds like she played the song.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:13

No, play the song.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:14

I could be wrong, like listen, don't attack me because I have not watched the whole thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:17

Okay, I only watched a few episodes, ladies. Like, don't don't at me. I'm I'm I'm episode what 16 through like 20 song.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:25

I guess now I'll go ahead and watch it. Like, literally, my uh my boo, she seen that Megan the Stein came on it. And she loves Megan Stein. So she's like, maybe we should watch it. But she said from the beginning. Yeah I'm like, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:37

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:37

It's like eight, like 13 seasons, one way, eight. And I did Google it. Out of all the seasons, it's uh 21 seasons, like UK starting in the UK, 13 seasons, eight seasons in America. It's only seven couples still together.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:50

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:51

Those um statistics is kind of inspected, I guess.

SPEAKER_13 1:19:56

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:19:57

But I might I might have to check out Love on the Island, well, Love Island. I'm gonna say Love on the Island.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:02

I call it Lust Island, but yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:04

Love Island.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:05

Lust Island, man. But shout out to that show, man, and shout out to Good Coochie for putting me on.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:09

Um the good coochie. Shout out to Good Coochie, period. I think that's a good lead way into uh the episode that we watched of uh Oh, and another TV show.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:23

Girls want it.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:25

You know, I laughed at you though when you hit me up because I seen it. But you know why I didn't watch it? I'm gonna make you laugh when you go into it. I said because I seen it and I watched a little clip for it, and then it said Escape from Paradise. But the way they spell paradise, you know, girls ain't eating no parasit.

SPEAKER_13 1:20:39

No parish.

SPEAKER_08 1:20:42

No disrespect to my B B W or my S S B B W. Learned that. I learned that watching this. Okay. Oh, cuz honey, everybody love, and I'm pretty as pretty. I don't care about how big you are, you know what I mean? But uh, y'all ain't eating no pills, and they smelled it escape from paradise.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:03

Paradise. So I'm gonna let you start that with the thing. This is okay, no, this this again, like I Threads is crazy world, man, and threads is nuts. So, like, they was like, oh, watch this documentary. I followed this page and say, you know, they recommend documentaries. And I saw that, saw this one. It's like a whole bunch of big chicks in the pool. I'm like, what the fuck? They just make a documentary about anything these days. So I clicked on the trailer. Jesus. You know, no, I clicked on the trailer, and so essentially it's about this dude who has a fetish for SSBBW.

SPEAKER_08 1:21:35

I don't think it started off as a fetish. I think he's got a big thing. But no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:38

No, no, no, no, no. But let me let me walk through it. Let me walk through it. Let me walk through it. Let me walk through it. So we're walking together. So it's this German dude, right? He um he created the software, piece of software that just makes uh convertibles. Boom. Fire. So he got bread. He's he bred it up.

SPEAKER_07 1:21:55

He's smart.

SPEAKER_13 1:21:55

Smart and got breaded up, right? So he was moved to Las Vegas, buy this big, big estate. And then he's like, yo, man, I'm here, but like you know, I got all this money and all this space. What's up, man? I like big girls. He's like, yo, I like big girls. He said, he said, I like them 6'1 and 500 pounds. But on top of that, he left 6'1!

SPEAKER_08 1:22:17

Because you gotta say why he left Journey. 500 pounds.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:20

So the reason why he left Journey because his parents were like, you know, helping us, like very, very nutritional folks who wanted like, you know, the kids to be healthy and strong and active. And this dude brought a big girl home. And he got flame broke cooked by his family. So he said, bye to America I go.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:42

Because over there, they eat whatever they want.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:44

They eat over there.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:45

I see my 600 pounds. Like, that boy probably went ham to my 600 pounds.

SPEAKER_13 1:22:50

So his parents are. But I know 6'1 and 500 pounds is absolutely crazy to me, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:59

That's a background, but speed up, he got the house.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:00

So he got the house. Only watch one episode. I don't watch it. Yeah, we only watched one episode, by the way. But it's so funny to me. But no, no, me too. But it's so funny to me because again, like, you know, so um he gets all this shit. At first it's a vibe, it's a vibe, it's a vibe, it's a vibe, but then the creepiness and the weird stuff started creeping through. And then now he's feeding them and trying to like every time.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:22

You gotta say how we got to the weird, right? Okay, so like skipping. So no no. You love to walk, but you won't be walking. Okay, go ahead. Because what did he do though that made it happen? So COVID hit. So he already had this little And he's on TikTok. He already for big women. Yeah. And he's on TikTok. Let's be 100 in today's world, yesterday's world, all the worlds, uh-huh. Um, they don't get told they're beautiful.

SPEAKER_13 1:23:46

No, they don't.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:46

They don't get cuddled and nurtured. They they do get either looked at one way or used for another way. I mean, let's just be 100. You know what I mean? People who even like big girls will hide that because they don't want to be clowns. And that's even in America. You know what I mean? So he created this space where big girls only. You know what I mean? Like, literally, no, you little skinny mother, don't come in here. If you ain't tipping the scale, you ain't coming through the door. You feel me? So, like, he created this space for them, and they got to have other big women who sign up for who they were. And create a sisterhood. Cause that's why all them women was there. You know what I mean? They didn't realize, because you ain't got no other dudes around. You gotta think about it. Did you pay attention?

SPEAKER_13 1:24:28

No, not a one.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:30

He's the one.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:31

He's the only man in that house.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:32

He's like 20, 30, 50, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_13 1:24:35

Yeah, it's about, yeah, you know, but no, I know they look like they're 20, 30, but it's only about five, six in there.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:39

No, it's about ten.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:40

No. It's about five, six. I know they it's a big girl's adult.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:44

No, don't attack me, cousin.

SPEAKER_13 1:24:46

It's a big girl's adult, but it's only about five, sixes. Look at you say they're about 10, 20.

SPEAKER_08 1:24:53

Alright, don't do that. Don't cancel me, okay? Look, the eyes. What they say, the things in the mirror of people, whatever, whatever. Anywho, he created the space. And I think that's important to say because of what he did with the space once he created it. This man had a kingdom of because he like, what was it?

SPEAKER_13 1:25:13

Mm-hmm. So every time they gain weight, he gets excited.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:17

He said, Oh my god, you're 489 pounds. Yay! And they thought it was cute because he was guessing how much they were weighing prior. And he just won every time he got they got bigger, he was so excited. So excited. So he also they had chores they had to do though, that wanted to be there.

SPEAKER_13 1:25:33

Yeah, yeah. They had to cook. They had to cook. And you know what I'm saying? Of course, he's cracking some of them. He's cracking some of them too. And that's where things starts getting wicked. But that's where we left off. Um I will say this. It's called Girls Wanted Escape from Paradise. And it's the word pair and a dice.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:53

A dice, right? And I I I I love it. I I like it. I I didn't, I didn't I wasn't unsure. But um, I do like it because like the girl who is like pretty much the mainstream on it, she works for the New York Times. You know what I mean? And so she's coming at it with a a real voice, but you it's also like people touring. Some of the women feel like he's the greatest thing that ever happened. Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:14

And other women are like, but honestly, watching some of it, I comes across creepy stuff. Yeah, it comes across as fast.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:23

Like stuff in them? Like when he made them all, like he he made them all go to like what is it, some little um restaurant with a restaurant. Restaurant.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:30

Well, they weigh it.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:31

They weigh you and it just gets in the middle of the day.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:33

And if you weigh over like what, 300 pounds or something like that, you get to eat for free.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:39

That is that was Bro, I thought it was like 10 people on there. It's so funny. You said the same thing. You said what I said that she was like, it was only five. But they weighed over 3,000.

SPEAKER_13 1:26:50

Yeah. No, would they got that? No, it was like 2,600 pounds. They weighed as much as an elephant.

SPEAKER_08 1:26:58

I am not. Oh god. Sorry, y'all. Don't cancel me. I love y'all. Cancel me. I'm laughing out here. So that probably thing and ask you. But I do, okay, go ahead. It's the biggest you crack. Or almost made me stop myself. Let me hold you something. I ain't gonna hold you. Um, I've I've the I've I've I've had thick, I haven't had, you know, like BB, like, no, I haven't. I've had I have some thick ones, so you know what I mean. But um, the big girls love me and I love them bad. I just never cracked the big ones. You know what I mean? I haven't. I also, I ain't trying to be funny. My spirit bad, right? Think dog energy. But my body, my body, is telling me. I I can't, I can only dance with you. I remember many of the book, I danced with uh this one chick I ain't gonna say her name on, yeah, boy. My homies had to hold me up like I was riding a horse to ride all that ass. So hold it, you know what I mean? Like I'm just not big enough for. If I had your thighs, I'd probably have a BBW store. Oh cry. But what's the biggest you crack? This is a question for you.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:14

No, no, no. I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let's calm down. Let's calm down. Like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Let's uh you got a little thing for him. No, no, no. No, no, no. Just like I'm uh it doesn't matter what your body. I'm like, I'm like, like, yeah, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:26

Honestly, like, I don't think it like I hate that BBWs don't get competed.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:29

I don't like I don't like the fact that we know we're categorizing bodies.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:32

I mean, you can't avoid a body. He can't avoid it, but I don't like it that we do that.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:38

Yeah, no, this is a person of it all.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:40

Now listen though.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:41

But to answer your question, though.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:43

What's the thing? No, I've cracked a few of those in the three club.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:46

Okay. You know what I'm glad I'm glad.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:48

All of them are black too.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:49

I ain't mad at it, though. But you know what I'm gonna ask you though? Because I was discussing these.

SPEAKER_13 1:28:53

But the black BBWs shape to them. I know.

SPEAKER_08 1:28:55

I know somebody I got friends with black BBWs. Like, honestly, bro, if I had the thighs like you, I'm promised you in the equipment, I definitely would try. Because once you ride, you know, once you hop on a horse, you better ride it. You feel me? I would bring like the way I watch some porn, you know, you know, and the way that thing throws back, you feel me? It's almost like a wave. I'm trying to tell you. So what I want to ask how I do it. I got a real question, though. I got a real question. Um because I was wondering, I was like, you know, I never cracked. When I actually said this earlier, I was like, stamina. How does stamina wise? Like, do it make a difference?

SPEAKER_13 1:29:28

Not really.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:30

Um, it's more I was talking crazy.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:35

You mean it's fine, bro. That's what we do. This exists, this is what we do. I mean, we can be real across the field, baby.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:41

Yeah, I mean, for the most part.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:43

And I'm living vicariously through you, so tell me.

SPEAKER_13 1:29:46

It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're doing most of the cracking. Yeah, but like they hang. But she's hanging, but they're hanging in there every stroke. Okay. Every way. And it's still hitting the same. We're still hitting the same. I will say, and this is for me who who's who's cracked on both sides of the spectrum. The biggest is the biggest is the petite.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:04

Yeah, the petite, for sure. I've seen them well.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:06

The petite's be taking that thing a little bit back. You know, you feel me?

SPEAKER_08 1:30:12

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:12

But so the big ones to be like, you know, pushing you out a little bit. Yeah, you know what I mean? But they be pushing you back a little bit, like yourself. Okay, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:21

Okay.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:21

But they really can't.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:22

So, you know, okay, so so it's each is on that. But it doesn't change whether or not they can hang. Yeah. And for people who don't know now, you know, be body positive, though. Don't be afraid to try something new.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:34

You know, I'm not gonna do it because I'll be like me, try it all.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:37

I beat it, but I I buy that thing to beat it. I eat it.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:40

So, like, I can't skinny ones, advertising ones, big ones, BBW ones. I never I never gone with the SS BBW. So I'm not gonna go there.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:50

I hate that big women though, like for real, because they big, they not pretty. That's what I'm saying. Like, that bothered me. What I heard. That was a big thing.

SPEAKER_13 1:30:58

Just because you're big doesn't mean you're ugly.

SPEAKER_08 1:30:59

I always tell anybody, if you're pretty, you pretty. I don't care about your size, though. Like, what about that sexual like sexual joint up?

SPEAKER_13 1:31:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:06

I hate that that that women who have that size of the body.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:10

And if you put your mind to it, you can make anything sexy.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:13

I mean, but come on, man. Like, just because they big, that means they face ain't pretty, it's crazy work. Don't if everybody make you feel like that, hit us up, we'll beat them up.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:21

Factual.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:22

Straight up.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:22

All right, shoot.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:23

I think we did that.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:24

We did that. Uh um, you wanna do some rapid fires real quick? Yes, before we head out. Come on. Come on, just say, okay, come on. Come on, Craig. Alright, hold on, hold on. Let me see if we see it down.

SPEAKER_08 1:31:40

Uh also, I do want to do next one that we do when we come back. You know what I mean? I want to do the craziest lines that we hear in the songs.

SPEAKER_13 1:31:49

Gotcha. Oh, I want to do that. Like, Plys said, I do want to do that. I got you. I think that's good. All right. Would you rather have your partner read every text you ever sent, or your parents heard every conversation you ever had?

SPEAKER_08 1:32:03

My parents can read that. My parents gonna read the text. First of all, my mother.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:08

Your partner.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:09

I know you say my partner or my parents.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:11

Yeah, have your partner read every text you ever sent, or your parents hear every conversation you ever had.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:17

My mom can hear every conversation I've ever had.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:20

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:20

I don't got time for that. I think people people reading and misconstrued things.

SPEAKER_10 1:32:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:32:27

Ain't no need for her to be upset. I'm trying to go, I'm trying to go to sleep at night with my partner. My mom, she whatever, she be alright.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:36

You raised me. I'm saying right there. Alright, would you rather have your life become a Netflix documentary or have everyone have access to your search history? Netflix!

SPEAKER_08 1:32:50

Netflix, give me that check.

SPEAKER_13 1:32:52

Alright, say you have a kid, right? Would you rather your child become rich but morally corrupt, or poor with incredible character?

SPEAKER_08 1:33:01

Poor with incredible character. I'll take care of my baby. Character goes farther than what you believe. That is wealth, okay? You can have all the money and lose it. But people will remember you better if you're a good person or if you're a bad person. You know what I mean? Like literally, you you can be rich and still be shit.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:20

We have we have a lot of examples of that.

SPEAKER_08 1:33:22

We have that. A lot of examples. You know what I mean? Money comes and goes, but my my baby character, who they are, that means more than me than anything.

SPEAKER_13 1:33:29

Last one for the what would you rather would you rather never age physically or never age mentally?

SPEAKER_08 1:33:39

Would I rather never age physically or never age mentally? See that one's kind of deep because aging mentally, do you mean that my brain is getting just old or am I acquiring new knowledge along the way, aging-wise?

SPEAKER_13 1:34:01

Your body never ages, but your mind still grows. Still grows.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:06

Oh, then let my let my brain go ahead and age, baby. Um, I'm fine. I'm black. Black don't cra it's a double uh whammy with me. So yeah, look at that. Cause my brain, as long as my brain's grown and still going, then that means that I'm not having altimists, I'm not having dementia, I'm not stuck in and I can get old physically, but my brain's still going. That's what matters.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:27

Okay, for sure, for sure, for sure. Alright, no, no, no, real quick. Be rich at 60 or broke until 60.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:37

Ain't that the same shit? I'm being rich at 60, though.

SPEAKER_10 1:34:41

Broke now.

SPEAKER_08 1:34:43

60 hit. I'm rich, cool. I'm broke money, but I'm rich in love. Yeah, I'm gonna be rich at 60. I'll take it at 50, prefer. Actually, I'll take it next year.

SPEAKER_13 1:34:54

I got a couple fired uh delusions or uh deserving. I'm gonna skip that for next um next one. Let's do uh a quick uh one gotta go. Alright. Alright, um black sitcoms. Ones never existed. You gotta get rid of one out of black sitcoms, okay? You ready for it? Martin, Fresh Prince Bel Air, the Boondocks, or the Jamie Foxx show. You gotta get rid of one.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:18

Martin, the boondocks.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:20

Fresh Prince or the Jamie Foxx.

SPEAKER_08 1:35:27

Honestly, but see, Jamie Foxx, I don't know if he would have. No, he just saying out of all of those, because the boondocks is on horticulture. The Fresh Prince will be all there. I mean, they just did a remake on that, so that says everything they need to know. Martin is still relevant. Um, I guess I just made my decision. The Jamie Foxx show. Why is one of my favorites? I would I would get rid of that because Jamie Foxx will still be here, and I I watch his stands up more than that.

SPEAKER_13 1:35:57

So I'll go with the Jamie Foxx show. Yeah. Alright, NBA players. One career gotta disappear forever from the holes of the NBA. LeBron James, Kobe Bryant, Stephen Curry, Michael Jordan. One gotta go. Curry.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:20

Sorry, I love you, Curry. If I ever met you, I'd be like, what's happening? Yeah, it's easy.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:25

Same. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:26

How do you feel about LeBron leaving the Lakers? Aren't you real big LeBron fan? Surprised you didn't say nothing about that. Over the years. Yeah, how about that? Let's talk that.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:36

No, he's he's been a Lakers. He's been a Lakers.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:38

Yeah, but my man said, hey, I'm out.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:40

Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:41

So what do you think, though? You know what I'm saying? Like, I was thinking.

SPEAKER_13 1:36:45

Should have never gone there, but I.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:46

I think no, he shouldn't have. But I think he's gonna do another year to see. Where he gonna go though? Where do you think he's gonna go?

SPEAKER_13 1:36:51

He said it's open market. Everyone, everyone who's anyone can come see me.

SPEAKER_08 1:36:57

I got a question. How would you feel?

SPEAKER_13 1:36:58

If he went to the Celtics.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:00

Come on, big baby. Talk to him.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:01

They're trying to. And oh, we can we can we can spend a whole nother 20 minutes about this Jalen Brown trade stuff, and I'm not a fan of it.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:09

Yeah, they gotta stop playing my brother.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:11

I'm not a fan, but they're going to trade Jalen Brown. That upsets me deeply. They get on my nerves for that. They get on my nerves for that too. They have been getting on my nerves for that for the past three years. All he does is show up to work and does his job.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:27

They want him to be this produced on both sides before. We are never gonna get another Jalen Brown. They want for him to award, and this is where it goes back to the higher powers. They want him for him to be more marketable. Yeah, but you want to care about that. Because Jake won us a championship.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:43

The reason he's marked was because he wants to do the curly hair, bro. Like finals MVP. He held it. He's the conference finals MVP. He got us to 56 wins on the gap year.

SPEAKER_08 1:37:54

Shit crazy, bro.

SPEAKER_13 1:37:56

Just because he said the wild comments after after losing a 3-1 lead. What's supposed to happen?

SPEAKER_08 1:38:01

That's what he's supposed to do. He's supposed to go some type of way.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:05

Now we gotta get rid of it. I don't like it at all, but we already unfortunately, man, that's imminent because I don't think JB wants to come back. And I don't blame I don't I don't blame him for not wanting to. I'm not I'm not gonna wait for the big thing. No, it's not the Celtics, it's the NBA.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:22

It's the NBA.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:23

It's the NBA.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:24

But the Celtics are fighting for him.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:26

But you know, what can they do? They're one organization that gets a third.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:30

They want the coach to fight for him.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:31

Facts. But you know.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:32

But what if they do a JB and LeBron trade? Which I know that's the thing. No, there's not gonna be, it's not gonna be a trade.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:37

It's not gonna be a trade. It's not gonna be a trade, but like LeBron can't sign to it.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:41

LeBron's not coming to the Celtics anymore, though.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:43

It'll be crazy funny if he did. It'd be crazy funny if he did.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:46

But he's not coming and John Moran going to the water.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:48

John Moran going to Portland with four other point guards.

SPEAKER_08 1:38:52

That's what the jailblazers are.

SPEAKER_13 1:38:54

The jailblazers, yeah. No, with like four other point guards. You got him, you got Dame, you got Drew Holliday, you got Scoot Henderson, all them like permenial guards in the NBA.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:06

Yeah, this joint going crazy right now. It's going I know, right?

SPEAKER_13 1:39:09

Right. It's crazy. But like, no, it's uh, no, I I uh that that's gonna be crazy. But I think LeBron's gonna go back to the heat and play with Giannis and bam.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:19

Oh, that'd be oh. And I would hate life. Would be fire no pun intended.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:26

I would hate life.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:27

I mean, I wouldn't hate it, but like right now, RT. We're going through a transition, man. Like, Celtics fan.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:34

I would hate, no. We do remember the last time the bomb was in Miami.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:37

I do. I do. If we hated it then, and we're gonna have to do it. And he's probably going back there. He's traumatized. He's probably going back there.

SPEAKER_13 1:39:44

You heard it here the first book. My trauma would come back tenfold if I see that dude in a heat jersey again.

SPEAKER_08 1:39:51

Uh, especially with that duo. That's gonna be ugly. I did want to hit on one last thing, but we a little past our time, but we can pick it up. Uh we'll pick it up next. We'll pick it up next one. We'll pick it up next one.

unknown 1:40:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:04

With that being said, though, I do got something to say. July 4th. Y'all come out to Blue Lake, got a show going on. It's rhythm and rhymes, baby. We got the poetry in the spitting, and yours truly will be in and out the show. So you already know it's gonna be great. Pull up it.

SPEAKER_13 1:40:19

Yes, yes, yes, y'all. All right, man, we did it. We did it, we did it. We did another episode of the Mac Podcast coming to you live, man. This is Mike's attitude of knowledge, music, art, and culture, and we're making audio classics. Thank you for joining us for another episode of the Mac Podcast. I hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoyed talking to y'all. Keep us in your thoughts and prayers. I guarantee that you're in ours and a word to the wise. Don't let the wins be the relief and losses be the tragedy. What is simple, what is easy, is rarely the same. A wise man can play the fool, but a fool can never play the wise man. And last but not least, no amount of money in the world has ever bought you a second of time. So spend yours wisely. We are out this peace. Bye. Last but not least. We love you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.