Omertà (ft. Traac)

The M.A.K Podcast closes out the season the only way we know how—with a heavyweight conversation.

This week we’re joined by the other half of R.u.D.e Music Ent., the one and only Traac, as he sits down alongside Asaad the Artiz for one final episode before the M.A.K Podcast goes on hiatus.

The episode kicks off with Asaad making some powerful final declarations before Kemistree takes the reins with questions for the Humboldt-based rap duo. They discuss what’s next for R.u.D.e Music Ent., upcoming music and creative projects, and what it really takes to navigate today’s music industry as independent artists.

From there, the conversation takes an unexpected turn into one of the episode’s most compelling debates: emotion versus logic. Kemistree challenges the room with thought-provoking questions that spark honest disagreements and reveal how differently people approach life’s biggest decisions.

The discussion then shifts into deeper waters as the crew examines allyship through the lens of Ms. Rachel’s advocacy surrounding the Nolan Wells case, leading to some passionate perspectives and hot takes about accountability, community, and using your platform for change.

As the conversation continues to flow, the crew reflects on the balancing act of fatherhood while relentlessly pursuing success. The realities of being present for your family while chasing your dreams become one of the episode’s most personal and relatable moments.

Hip-hop fans won’t be disappointed either. A spirited conversation comparing platinum records versus artistic legacy—using Lauryn Hill and Joe Budden as the launching point—opens the door to a bigger discussion about impact, influence, commercial success, and what truly defines greatness in music.

The episode wraps with more insight into upcoming music ventures, possible podcast endeavors, and a heartfelt message to everyone who’s supported the M.A.K Podcast throughout the season.

This is the OFFICIAL Season Finale.

The M.A.K crew will be going silent until further notice as we focus on what’s next. We sincerely appreciate every stream, every share, every comment, and every conversation.

In the meantime, be sure to follow @rudemusicent to stay tapped in with everything Traac and Asaad have coming next, and follow @thamakpodcast on Instagram for updates, networking opportunities, and news on what’s ahead.

This isn’t goodbye.

It’s simply… until next time.

Transcript

SPEAKER_10 0:00

One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two. Microphone check one, two. What is this? It's the Mac crew top two talking so authentic.

SPEAKER_01 0:11

Katie.

SPEAKER_10 0:12

Hear ye, hear yeah. Okay, yes I hear ye.

SPEAKER_00 0:17

Word of time.

SPEAKER_10 0:18

Yo. Before I get the show started, man, I am letting you guys know that there'll be no more real event stories told here on this platform. It's a rap. Because crazy. I'm going to be sacrificing friendships and potential coochie. I need to get paid. I need monetary checks. I feel like I've given you guys.

SPEAKER_00 0:45

Not you want to be a podcast rate uh only fanster.

SPEAKER_10 0:48

Hey, you know? I've given you guys 50 golden episodes, you know what I mean? So.

SPEAKER_00 0:54

You've tried it.

SPEAKER_10 0:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 0:55

He's just saying his feelings.

SPEAKER_10 0:56

No, no, no, no feelings.

SPEAKER_00 0:57

Yes, you are, because we always talk about the prioritizing.

SPEAKER_10 1:01

I am prioritizing a check.

SPEAKER_00 1:02

Have you really lost anything that didn't serve you or deserved?

SPEAKER_10 1:07

That's besides the point.

SPEAKER_00 1:09

Have you though? Or things exposed.

SPEAKER_10 1:12

A check.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Okay, we're gonna get the check each.

SPEAKER_10 1:15

Just saying. But until I get that check, I'm keeping mums the word.

SPEAKER_00 1:20

The only way we're gonna get the check is if mum is not the word. Well, listen, they have 50 episodes.

SPEAKER_10 1:25

It's gonna be hums the word. They have 50 episodes, swag. They have 50 of these things. I'm gonna have 50 of these suckers, okay? All right, go on here. Let it all. That's one. And to whom it may concern. Whom is look, man, whatever you feel about me, guarantee the energy is the same. If you love me, I love you right back.

SPEAKER_00 1:45

They go my thing on my nose.

SPEAKER_10 1:47

If you like me, I like you right back. However, if you don't, if any feelings that you have towards one Malik Asad King is anything negative, I guarantee your reasons are invalid. And poses no credibility at all.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_10 2:10

Re-examine yourself. If you feel anything negative towards me, if you want to fight me, that's something wrong with you. If you have, if you're going around town talking, throwing all type of smut and dirt on my name, just because your pride and your ego has led you to believe uh to the conclusion that I don't like Hassan. There's something wrong with you. If you have an issue with me, please make sure it's backed by logic, facts, and common sense. If there's no logic in your argument, you need to drop your case against me.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

If there's no logic, he's gonna block it.

SPEAKER_10 2:51

To whom it may concern. We are in our 30s, we're adults. It's time for us to grow and be adults. Do not come at me with childish energy. It's not gonna be meant well.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Hey, is this your declaration?

SPEAKER_10 3:09

Hold up, hold up. This is the last time these people are gonna hear me for a while now.

SPEAKER_00 3:13

I gotta make sure. This is the last time these people are ready.

SPEAKER_10 3:16

Hey, yo, we ain't got time for that positive patty nonsense right now.

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Declaration, Johnski. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 3:28

To whom it may concern before I was so brutally interrupted.

SPEAKER_00 3:31

How rude is that?

SPEAKER_10 3:33

Look, man, get a life. Get some wisdom before you come to me. We are not doing none of that nonsense. We're not doing none of that nonsense. We're absolutely not. I don't know what is going on with this uh Spotify, but you know, we don't know.

SPEAKER_00 4:08

It's crazy probably because you did a declaration of a new Negro independence. I was tired, run that back with what was that again?

SPEAKER_10 4:23

No, we're not doing that.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

Y'all hear that laugh? I can't wait to tell y'all who that laugh y'all hear. Look, man. It's about time, man. Look, man. It's about time, man. When we do the intro, he's he's been part of the intro from the beginning on up to the mocking. Oh, excuse me. I'm not gonna question what you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 4:44

What's that what?

SPEAKER_10 4:47

Everybody standing up, stand up one time. Man, we got a real one in the building. Can you finish these words? Real quick, real quick, real quick.

SPEAKER_09 4:55

Let's go! I feel like I know who made this be. Some busters.

SPEAKER_08 5:07

If I paint a picture like Bango, you would see the bitch and it's the best. When I got through the tough times, my things make me feel blessed now. Stuck in this dream, living the life. I made the scene, I've never tried because I'm still something in black or living and died.

SPEAKER_03 5:30

You ain't gotta watch the time I've got the back in the back.

SPEAKER_04 6:16

I got I got I got I got loyalty, got loyalty, inside my DNA. Okay, go on the beast, got one piece inside my DNA. I got power, poison pain and joy inside my DNA. I got hustle though, and fish and flow inside my DNA. I was born like this, this born like this, D Make you lick the scripture, not transformed like this, perform like this, with your own. I got I got brilliance, I just closed it, cut this in my DNA. I got millions, I got riches building in my DNA. I got dark, I got evil that rotten my DNA. I got off, I got trouble, some heart inside my DNA. I just win again, then win again. Like Wimble, then I serve. Yeah, that's him again. The sound that engine is like a bird. You see fireworks and coffee, tire skirt, the bullock. I know how you work, I know just who you are.

SPEAKER_00 7:12

Oh, okay. Oh, you think he's DJ? That was nice. I thought Man, listen. I can't hear my cut my mic a little bit. He does never talk. That was nice.

SPEAKER_06 7:24

I need to be Let's go.

SPEAKER_10 7:34

I need all the day once, man. All the day ones right here. Let's go.

SPEAKER_08 7:43

New meat, new vibe, new feelin'.

SPEAKER_09 7:45

You drunk, I'ma we chillin'. I love this life we livin'. You stuck on all those times I did it. But you gotta pick some hard with a mix there. No new friends, cause I screen most calls with trick. See, I feel too long to connect that. Goin' out of my mind, but you out of pocket, I'm all out of time. I'm up like a rocket, but you got a vibe, and I couldn't stop it.

SPEAKER_08 8:05

You know I can't stop it, I'm way too invested. You know I'm a prophet, you want me to get it. You told me I got it, I know that I got it. I know that you got it.

SPEAKER_09 8:14

The truth is in high sight. I've been acting a fool with my mind's way. I'll make all the wrong moves when the time is right. I'm a new with the stay out the limelight. Now I feel like I've been bad. Some shit that I said make you think bad. I'm sorry, I'm sorry I did that. I wish I could take all those things back. I'm just tryna move past that, living the moment, the best with a fast dead. I wrote a boat, so you ain't gotta pass that. Happy, you know, I'm just mad at you asked that. I get stuck in this trend like a hashtag. So I'm watching my mood like a NASDAQ. Taking stock, how you bringin' that ass back.

SPEAKER_00 8:48

Let's get to it, man.

unknown 8:50

I really always hang though.

SPEAKER_10 8:52

We're gonna vibe out, man. We're gonna vibe out to this one, dog.

SPEAKER_00 8:55

Okay, finally, so competition. Thank you, man. Thank you, dog.

SPEAKER_10 9:01

Thank you for listening. Thank you for being part of this journey. Thank you for supporting the Mac Podcast, man. We appreciate you. Day ones, man. Everybody knew everybody's been rocking with us, man. Much love.

SPEAKER_04 9:14

Me and my niggas tryna get it, you bitch. We need that check. I think don't get you without it, you bitch. We need to quadruple your bitch. Back when I don't rap us, but it's coin. I thought the rain and went to tell my bros, tell my bros, when that's the rain, let it burn came on. I saw calling out the rhyming, yeah, bitch. Yeah, bitch. Yeah, bitch. The only thing we had to free our mind, free our mind. And freak that verse when we see Palestine. You lookin' like an easy come up, yeah, bitch. Yeah, bitch. A different foon, I know you come from, yeah bitch. Yeah, bitch. And that's a lifestyle that we never knew, we never knew. Go at a rabbin' for the rabbit, go. Holly berry, hallelujah. Pick your boys and tell me what you do. Uh everybody go respect the shooter. But the one in front of the gun is by the roll.

SPEAKER_10 10:19

Yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir, yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir. Ski, let's get to it. Maybe the music break. Calm down. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome yet to another episode of the MAC Podcast, man. Make it up, make it up, make it up, man. Power by sponsored by Buy. Created by Root Music Entertainment. In partnership with KAAHALP Arcada 94.7 FM Community 4 Radio Broadcasting in the heart of the what? District here in Arcada, man. It's been great, yo man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

I said no, I'm gonna say.

SPEAKER_10 11:03

Keep it going, keep it going, man. Keep it going, man. Keep it going, man. Keep it going for yourself out there, man. Dead ass. We here, we here, we here.

SPEAKER_00 11:12

Let's get into it. All right, man. Let's get into it, though. They they really like they love the music break and all that. Because it gives them a refresher. I don't know if feedback that I've been getting. I've been getting a lot of different for different people. They love to talk to you. Well, yeah, because I'm talkable too.

SPEAKER_10 11:26

I'm talkable too, too. Super talkable.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

You just did a whole declaration of Malik independence.

SPEAKER_10 11:32

Nah, I did a whole declaration that you got a problem with me, yo. You better like check your own. And you know what? I love boundaries.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

And that's your boundaries. That's it. But with that being said, oh they love our comments, and they love us back and forth, the way we talk, you know, and how we hit on things. So, you know, if y'all want to keep that going, like you said, we need to check. So, like, y'all gotta invest.

SPEAKER_10 11:55

Ladies and gentlemen, we got a very special guest here tonight.

SPEAKER_00 11:58

Yeah, we do. About time.

SPEAKER_10 12:00

It is what the other half of Rude Music Entertainment, man. My brother in spirit, my brother in bars, rapper, producer extraordinaire, my guy. Track is in the building.

SPEAKER_09 12:17

Man, who the fuck is Track?

SPEAKER_10 12:19

50 episodes in, he decided to bless us with his vocal cords for some odd reason because you know why. He's Mr. Stay Low Key, man. Out of the way. I'm too cool to be all up in your face, you know what it is. Man, what's going on with you, brother? What's happening?

SPEAKER_09 12:40

Man, chilling. Yeah. I've been chilling. Right. Yeah. Working, staying busy, keeping my head down, like you said, staying out the way. It's the way I like it.

SPEAKER_00 12:48

Yeah. But you out, you in a different place. How is it going from here to a different place? Doing everything, keeping up with like, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 12:55

It's hard. It's hard.

SPEAKER_00 12:56

We got you on here.

SPEAKER_09 12:58

You know what I mean? I I'm from here. So my people are from here, my family's from here. Leaving here was not easy. Obviously, it feels good being back for if this is the last episode. Yeah. You know? It is. Feels great to be here.

SPEAKER_10 13:12

On K H A L P R K W. Let's go. It is on them. Not the last card. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_09 13:17

But you know, you know what I'm saying? We we we started this thing a few years back and I didn't really get a chance to see it through with my brothers. So it feels good to see it, it's been kept up with.

SPEAKER_00 13:28

I feel honored because y'all did start it, and he brought me in, and we didn't even know like what is going on, like, but we just kept going. So I really appreciate y'all for this.

SPEAKER_09 13:37

No, and I appreciate you like stepping in, you know. Yeah, the house, you know, be it being a sister, just making it. You know. Um, but yeah, yeah, it's been hard. I've been out in Reno, sweating my ass off in the desert.

SPEAKER_00 13:52

It's a different type of heart. Coming from everybody's different type of heart. It's all right. It's all right, it's the last one.

SPEAKER_10 13:58

We're going out with a Bankski. All the kids are in bed and all the old people are still in the battery. Yeah, and the people it's the right people riding with fire. The right people are riding with fireworks. We're here with the right time.

SPEAKER_00 14:07

And it's a part in it as well, because it keeps the show goes on, man.

SPEAKER_10 14:10

The show goes on regardless, yo. You know what I'm saying? It's just like we're going to take a smooth hiatus, but you know what I mean. It's just like it is. You know, I mean, like, I'm not closing the door on this project completely, but it is time for a little break for sure.

unknown 14:24

I am.

SPEAKER_00 14:29

You sometimes destruction leads to construction. You feel me? It needs to happen. MAC Podcast 2.0. How is the climate change going from here where it's cooler to the desert?

SPEAKER_09 14:44

Honestly, honestly, I'm uh I'm more uncomfortable being back here because of the humidity. I'm used to the desert now. It's dry out there, and I come back here and like I'm hot right now. In this room, outside yesterday, I was dying. Yeah. Which is weird for me. Oh, yeah. You know, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 15:04

You see me, I'm wearing this big ass sweater.

SPEAKER_00 15:05

Honestly, it's not that cold, but it's cold tonight. Today is cold, but uh cold like you got. I've been wearing lighter clothes too, but okay. But you should have been doing your music though, right?

SPEAKER_09 15:16

A little bit, a little bit. You know, I'm uh I work from home, so I get the opportunity to do what I like at home, which includes making music or not making music if I want to. Um yeah, I've been, you know, not unlike a sod ear, taking a little hiatus, trying to readjust, figure out where the fuck I'm trying to go. You know, it's time for me. It's time for time to get it. It's not even that. Everyone has their time to take a hiatus. I'm with it. Honestly, I'm here for it.

SPEAKER_00 15:45

That's why we're going out with a bang. Like, really, I w I wrote that down.

SPEAKER_09 15:47

Like, uh, figure out, figure out what the hell you're aiming at. That's really, really where it comes down to.

SPEAKER_10 15:52

With that being said, I got a question for both everybody in the room, right? So being that this is quote unquote the last Mac podcast episode for a while.

SPEAKER_00 15:59

For a minute.

SPEAKER_10 16:01

What's the one thing you hope people remember about you and you? Like, what's one thing you guys hope people remember you about?

SPEAKER_09 16:11

That's the same thing I was gonna say. It's just the authenticity. That's all I uh all I ever try to be is real and authentic. And you know, I think you said something earlier that resonated with me, is something like if you got a problem with me, it's probably something with you. You know, I've always felt that way. Not to say, you know, not to be a big-headed like that, but you know what I mean? I try to match people where they're at.

SPEAKER_10 16:31

Exactly. Especially when thank God that you guys rebonded, because I forgot so because I got rudely cut off with that little solid. I got one more thing to add. I got one more thing to add to my tangent. I said earlier the declaration. You are speaking against a man who walks with God. Y'all get carried by God. Okay. Because God do what? Blesses. Because God blesses babies and fools. See, I walk with God.

SPEAKER_00 17:07

When I every step I take. Oh no, my man. I walk with God, y'all get carried by God. God almighty. That was a bar.

SPEAKER_10 17:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:19

Alright.

SPEAKER_10 17:19

You see me step, you see my ancestors behind me. I see you step, I see your I reminded these. I'm going to calm down. I'm gonna calm down. But no, you're talking to a man who leans on God every now and then. But I walk stride by stride with it. Y'all get carried by him because you know you know who God but babies and the fools. Amen.

SPEAKER_00 17:42

And to that's in the Bible.

SPEAKER_10 17:44

And to come to challenge me is foolish.

SPEAKER_00 17:47

All right, you could stop right there.

SPEAKER_10 17:48

Oh, you know. No, I cannot.

SPEAKER_09 17:50

No, because he's about to call them babies.

SPEAKER_10 17:52

Because you are babies and fools. I am a man and wise. Stop it. Alright, go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_08 18:03

I knew it.

SPEAKER_00 18:06

I'm glad you here, bro. This is epic. Because I knew it, but dang. You already told him that you and God walked together and they get carried like a Mike infants.

SPEAKER_08 18:23

Connold.

SPEAKER_00 18:24

In the pouch.

SPEAKER_10 18:27

Oh, man. But go ahead. Yeah, I just didn't get that last bar off. Thank you. No, that was great. That was great.

SPEAKER_00 18:33

Great, honestly. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 18:37

So, Mr. I'm sweating in the cold of Humboldt. Yeah. Man, well, so so here's the thing, man. People have been asking about me, man. Asking about you. And asking about what is rude and what's going to happen and going to the show.

SPEAKER_00 18:50

Oh, yeah, I think that's wrong, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 18:52

Yeah, what what what what's what's the plan?

SPEAKER_00 18:55

What y'all doing?

SPEAKER_10 18:56

Are we dropping some singles? Are we gonna work on a project anytime soon? What what like what are you what is what is rude thinking about the state of hip hop right now and what is our agenda now perhaps. What's our agenda right now?

SPEAKER_09 19:14

My agenda right now, our agenda right now, I think, should be to at least complete a project. That's that's it. One single. And we have a couple in the chamber we've been sitting on for a little bit. Yeah, we got singles for real soon. Um we actually have a lot. Um and it really comes down to just me. Me mixing, mastering, and and finishing up some stuff. Uh, but it also comes down to to Aside over here. No, like I said, talk about that fool. Because he gotta come out to to record. Exactly. And I can't do that for the finishing stuff I need, even unless it's recorded. So, I hold it a friend of the thing. So, but but the goal, the goal ultimately is just to continue to put out music. You know what I mean? That's something we've uh we've agreed on that we're never gonna stop doing. Um, that's why I can't try to do that. Whether we got people listening or not, it's something we're gonna do because it's too hard to do.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

Y'all the type, you know what I learned, though, that's why I love too that me is like having coming out here based on someone believe me, y'all, you know what I mean? I'm always gonna give it up too, but you know what I mean. But um, the consistency and having to my consistency is doing shows and shows up and show, doing all that, right? Because I was just trying to figure it out when I came here, why is what I was doing. But I just know I wanted to do it. But y'all consistency and uh how y'all come together no matter what, and and and drop stuff, drop things, y'all in between and in-house work, and then even when he moved, uh way, you was still pulling up, or y'all would meet down in the bay and shoot videos, like you know what I mean? Like that consistency is dope. So y'all definitely shoot the videos in. I didn't know where it was listening. No, but I think you know what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 20:58

I like what she's saying though, like, and I agree it's something Bob and both of us should work on a little better, is being more consistent. You know what I mean? Figuring out what we want that consistency to look like, uh and then running with that. You know what I mean? Because right now it's pretty sporadic. It's you know, it looks like consistency maybe on the on the other end, but for us it's like, all right, we got this, let's drop it now. You know what I mean? We got this, we'll we'll work on that. So I think just getting a baseline of, you know, like I said, just we'll start with one project, and I think you know, the goal obviously we've talked about it, you know, over text messages on the agenda, not goal, but the agenda. Agenda is, you know, we've we've set the high standard of like a song a month. Um, but again, I think just 2027, that's a doable goal. It is 2027, that's a doable goal. I think where we're at right now, just you know, got something.

SPEAKER_00 21:50

We can do it now. Like, we can do it.

SPEAKER_10 21:53

We can do it now. Yeah, yeah. But like, okay, so here's my thing. Just finishing something, that's all. Here's my like. So I'm just gonna run this by you live on air right now because it's just kind of kind of mine. Let's drop five of these singles, right? Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then drop another project, right? But we keep on going with that. We had entitled, we had ego, we need to drop another. Three E's, right? And that's be like that'll be like the first bookend of our catalog. Okay. Because we have an app we have a cool little catalog as it is. So I think we need to build on it. And it's just like, no, it's just like me with this podcast episode. I feel like we we build I feel like we build like so much material and so much like you know, things that people can refer to. Yeah. So like when like say whatever wave we catch, people have like a ton of stuff to fall back into and dive into.

SPEAKER_00 22:46

Don't get on too much. Um I got a better idea. I love that idea. But I think a versus type joint for y'all next one. Like y'all, in the meantime, while leading up to it, uh y'all drop the ones out the boat that y'all haven't dropped yet. Y'all get those for red. That's when you said once a month, uh you drop it, and y'all push that one or whatever to the next one, you drop the bolt joints, right? This is how the boat. It's like the bolt, I don't know, make it dope, the bolt series or something, you know what I mean? Uh where you give a background maybe on where it came from, type joint, right? But y'all should do like a type versus uh with the music. Same me, like how y'all make the songs together, but you come in on your, cause you, you know, I like how you come in, like it's like emotional and logical at the same damn time in a way, right? You come in and it's like almost a poetic way of coming in. Like, I always say when I'm the person that you comment, and then you come in, but you got that bar playing, like you, you really, nah, for real, bro. You nice with the way you flip the words from anime and like uh real live music stuff. Like, that's why I mean you do this. Hey, so a versus not y'all collaborating to make the song sound good together, but who who gonna kill the song? Who gonna who's gonna take it? Who's gonna do better on it? It'd be dope.

SPEAKER_10 23:58

Even AI is impressed with me.

SPEAKER_00 23:59

Ah, I'm gonna be.

SPEAKER_10 24:01

Just gotta say, man, even AI is.

SPEAKER_00 24:13

You don't even play my joints on here. Yeah. You don't even have any joints on Spotify.

SPEAKER_09 24:16

What we was one that Notta Clue product is. That was one that Notta Clue produced for Highway. No, the for us. He made it for Highway, and then he had this idea to put all of us on it. Oh, yeah. But only two of us stepped to the plate. Yeah, and only two out of the four of us ended up recording on it. And then for the very last verse, Lance uh or Nada is is scratching the entire 16 bars, which is super fire, bro. That's so fire copy. Um but yeah, that one, that one, me and him kind of took that as like a verses like all right, Highway's coming real, you know, he's coming for Nada crew. And we had to like kind of like set the root, set the set the uh record straight with stand.

SPEAKER_10 24:57

I like the basics. Highway's been ducking your boy.

SPEAKER_00 24:59

Oh, that's all I gotta say. I mean, is he ducking you or is Highway doing his thing? No, he's doing the thing. No, he's doing the same. He's doing the same.

SPEAKER_10 25:04

He's doing the thing. I say that facetiously, man.

SPEAKER_00 25:07

I know.

SPEAKER_10 25:08

He knows that's my brother for real.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

But you gotta get up on that one. He ain't ducking that. That boy is he just gone. Mm-hmm. He's so show, he duck everything until he gets big. He needs to be on the stage. He gets big on the stage. His bar play. I'm telling you, he don't got little man syndrome.

SPEAKER_10 25:24

Shout out to Highway for real. Shout out to man. Who else we work with?

SPEAKER_09 25:28

As far as lyricists or like producers?

SPEAKER_10 25:31

Lyricists, man. We haven't really worked with it. Not a whole lot. Shout out to Highway.

SPEAKER_09 25:37

Shout out to Highway for Reals. Oh man. I mean, just the people that we kept close. You know what I mean? The Nauticrew days, and then we did our couple little things with uh with exquisite.

SPEAKER_00 25:48

Okay, and chemistry better be in the number. Y'all act like y'all ain't gonna.

SPEAKER_09 25:53

I was just gonna say, I've got a couple of songs, at least two.

SPEAKER_00 25:56

We got two that got me.

SPEAKER_09 25:57

I know. Y'all confused. Y'all two got songs.

SPEAKER_00 26:01

And then there's a couple of we got a couple because we did what we can do. Y'all got them say you did one with my brother.

SPEAKER_10 26:06

Yeah. Look at them having a couple of songs.

SPEAKER_00 26:09

Because I showed up to the crew, man.

SPEAKER_10 26:10

Man, because the songs that we have, they used to always be up there when uh living up there. We try to get one. We trying to get one.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

Our connection is different though, right? But now we finally getting into the music joint. You know what I mean? Like, we ain't got a joint to go together.

SPEAKER_10 26:23

Like, you and I got a joint.

SPEAKER_00 26:25

I know, so I'm saying you. Yeah, you, you, yeah, you, yeah. Fuck him. He had the studio at his crib. Okay.

SPEAKER_10 26:32

We could have done something then and he was ducking me.

SPEAKER_00 26:35

I ain't know nothing about it.

SPEAKER_10 26:36

I still got a studio at my crib. Y'all can both pull up. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 26:39

Bro, let's get it. I'm ready to pull up. Situation has changed, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 26:44

Situation has changed, yeah. I was in uh I'm unstuck it. Yeah, I understand. I'm just saying, it's nothing but a weak.

SPEAKER_00 26:55

I hold it until I get it.

SPEAKER_10 26:56

Man, you know, coochie can be distracting, man. Man, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 27:00

You ain't gonna downplay this coochie on my head.

SPEAKER_10 27:03

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 27:04

You do what you do, bro.

SPEAKER_00 27:05

I do what I do. Cause now for real, bro. Don't everybody, because it wasn't just coochie. Coochie good though. Yeah. Coochie was a factor, bro. Coochie in the mountain. But uh, that's not what it's just about.

SPEAKER_08 27:16

I love it.

SPEAKER_00 27:17

That's just not what it's about. It was deeper than that. I wasn't afraid about it, you know what I mean? But I ain't picked this route. I just gotta run the play. And I'm gonna always touch down, baby. You feel me? And I shout out to my people, because it's important to have your people around you that hold you down. And like, my boy been having me helping me through this, you know. It actually is something I was gonna talk about with y'all, right? And I think it's a good conversation. Emotional versus logical, right? And so, like, yeah, I was saying, because you've been helping me do this, because like I'm a logical person, and I'm emotional though too, you know what I mean? So to have someone who is emotionally logical and then, you know what I mean? But understand your emotions. See what's I say? Emotionally logical, but does understand the emotion. It helps you put things in in uh perspective for for me, you know what I mean? So I appreciate that part of it, you know what I mean. And I think for him where like I'm logical, but I do know the emotional. I I've been helping him tap into his emotional word count though. You know, Thanos Junior.

SPEAKER_10 28:27

Not Junior. Hold up, hold up. Not junior. My bad, bro.

SPEAKER_00 28:32

I was trying to think what was between junior and senior because Thanos already exists. Thanios cousin. No, no. First cousin. Brother, brother, brother, brother from another. Alright, I got you, Manos brothers. We're gonna call you Manos. Manos.

SPEAKER_10 28:49

I'm not mad at that. To be honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 28:52

It works. It does work. I'm a wordsman too. Y'all ain't the only one. Uh, but but for real though, uh, like, yeah, where I was going, 'cause we got to laughing and talking.

SPEAKER_09 29:03

You talking about you talking about just holding each other.

SPEAKER_00 29:06

Anyway, logical versus emotional. Okay, there we go. Thank you. I would make sure he's I knew where I was going, I was making sure he was paying attention. So, like, no, seriously. But that matters, right? So, but at what point do we stop? I think we gotta stop separating it, if you know what I mean. You know what I'm saying? Like, we all emotional and logical. But men are more logical than women, right? They say that's what they say. No, that's what they know. No, I know it's we know it's a lot. Oh my god, amen. What are we talking about? Hold on, why you think we why you think all the things I'm missing? Why you think we on this together, right? Right, right, because I but I'm going somewhere with this, because I agree wholeheartedly.

SPEAKER_01 29:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 29:48

Right? I think that's just where the confusion. And I'm gonna say what I'm gonna say now. I ain't gonna touch my mouth, quiet on the creek, while you talk. You know what I mean? Because I wanna I want feedback on this. So like I feel like though, we all emotional and logical though. Like, that's a balance of life. But it they say men more logical and women more emotional. And it's sometimes, I guess it turns out it'll be true, but then you meet a woman who's more logical than emotional, and vice versa, with a man who's more emotional, which is happening a lot lately. A lot than logical. But I think it's because all our lives is kind of indoctrined, you know what I mean? Like, they say that's what they say. Men are more logical than women. Well, right. Because women get approved. So then she emotional. We just gotta combine it. We gotta understand that that's who we all are, but how does it work? Now that's where I'm going with it though. See, I know, and that's where I do, that's where it leads to the question of uh philosophy-wise, like we both are that. We all are that, but how do you combine? Because men are supposed to, I don't even know about supposed to, I don't wanna say that men, I don't wanna say. What do we do with the emotional and logical? Like, I'm not even gonna put gender on it. It's just we are who we are, you know what I mean? But men should are supposed to lead in certain ways. Like, if it's a man that's trying to hurt me, because regardless, why I love women and I I just I'm just a fresh dressing mom, you know what I mean? It is what it is. I'm not a man. I'm not finna fight no man. I will hold it down and I know how to hold myself, like, get out of there. Thanks to my uncles and men around me who taught me, but I'm gonna call you. I'ma, you know what I mean, like so like what do you do with that emotional logical? Like, we gotta start. I think it's gotta be uh stop being a versus. How do we work that and educate? I don't know. That's it. That's all I got.

SPEAKER_10 31:47

Go ahead. You the guess, mate.

SPEAKER_09 31:49

Yes, you got it. I mean, for me, in this dude's opinion, I'm more emotional than logical.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Yes, it's true.

SPEAKER_09 32:00

Opinion. Keywords. No, opinion.

SPEAKER_00 32:02

He's never taken away, but you are. No, but you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_09 32:06

Which is funny, which is funny because in relationships, I'm more logical than emotional. In their opinion. You are, yeah, I heard that. So I think it's a real fine line and a balance that needs to find that that needs to happen. The the confusion I think is when I lose, I start being really logical when the emotion gets confused.

SPEAKER_00 32:32

Exactly, because you don't know where to go.

SPEAKER_09 32:34

When my emotion is confused or misinterpreted, that's good, and then it turns into something that I'm turning this into. So whether it's not, or at that point, I turn 100% logical, and then I'm the problem. Which doesn't make sense to me because now I'm just stating.

SPEAKER_00 32:52

When the emotion, I was just talking to you about this. Like, it's my like we like, you know, that's what I love about what we do, bro. It's so real. Uh when I can't I can't understand the emotion behind what they're trying to logically make it seem like it's it's my issue that I need to fix or something that's wrong when it doesn't make sense. You know what I mean? And then you are the man. That's why you like, if the emotion is confusing. Like, I don't know where we stand. I mean What is it? Are we good? Are we not? Am I a bad person to you for real? And if so, what it is, what you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 33:25

I mean, I think at the everybody craves empathy with their emotions, right? They want their emotions to be understood at the at the moment. Everybody don't want to be understood, they want to be validated. Validated. Well, if I'm feeling some type of way, I want you to realize that's why I'm feeling some type of way. I don't want to have to explain myself and explain myself and explain myself to the point that now I'm understanding. But you're gonna have to explain yourself.

SPEAKER_00 33:47

If I don't understand it.

SPEAKER_10 33:48

We live okay.

SPEAKER_00 33:50

No, you're right.

SPEAKER_10 33:51

Because here you're right, kids. And then, all right, so this is where logic prevails, people. This is where, this is where you guys have to lean on that because again, our brains are just split up in uh certain compartments. Is it the ego and the super ego, right? So we got like three compartments that we basically operate out of. What we call emotions is you're usually like using the either the ego or the super ego of the other. And it's parts of your brain that are wired up. But it's not the level over the right. The ed is the one that kind of regulates and controls and discerns and everything, right? So once you lean on that, can I talk?

SPEAKER_04 34:25

I'm just I'm comfortable.

SPEAKER_00 34:26

I'm ad-living you now.

SPEAKER_10 34:28

Yeah. So what I'm saying is, what I'm saying is this, man. So like, you know, when you get into like very, if if you know the situation's high octane in emotions, right? It's a very emotional charge situation. You have to go in knowing that it's an emotional charge situation, and whatever you're feeling, you have to be, you have to keep, you have to be mindful. Not to be like just mindful not to control it, not to uh um be mindful. Yeah, just be mindful of it. Like, yo, I'm going to get emotional about this. Like people um call me emotional on this podcast, but I'm just really being performative and theatric, but there's difference. But yeah, see, look, even even my own co-host.

SPEAKER_00 35:11

Because I'm good at what I fucking do. You know, you that's why I love the quiet on the creek came out. Because there's loud emotions and quiet emotions. Some things are emotional because while you're logical, you brought up real things that you know, even though we changed the.

SPEAKER_10 35:25

But what am I doing when you when you go back and you listen to it, I'm clearly making fun of the situation.

SPEAKER_00 35:30

Why would you make fun of a real life situation? That's good.

SPEAKER_10 35:33

No, because if you go down to the details and the logic of it, when you go to the logic of the situation, it is funny to point out.

SPEAKER_00 35:43

So I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_10 35:44

So I'm just saying, so even though I convey it a certain way, but even though I convey it a certain way, I convey it in a certain way because you know you gotta tap into the tap into the emotions of the situation. Like, of course, the average Joe Schmo will have this emotion and this feeling in this situation. So I, be me, tap into that emotion will over.

SPEAKER_00 36:07

Logically. Logically, so it could be that emotion needs to be evaluated.

SPEAKER_10 36:10

Like you just say, emotional empathy. You just No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

I hear people need to email you. I think everybody doesn't have each other. So, so, so, so wait a minute, so wait a minute.

SPEAKER_10 36:18

So I get on here, so I get on here.

SPEAKER_00 36:20

I speak a certain empathy. You're apathetic.

SPEAKER_10 36:23

I get on here and I speak a certain way and I convey a certain way, but I'm telling it from a very logical stance.

SPEAKER_00 36:29

Oh, I know. So, I'm just saying with you emotional kick in with you, though.

SPEAKER_10 36:33

No, I for me perfectly. It's rarely. It is rare. It is rare.

SPEAKER_00 36:39

That's all I was saying. I really I know, and I'm not taking away from that though. Because you help me get through it, but my emotions sometimes get too big, right? I can't let them out with everybody. You help me logically come back to what's going on.

SPEAKER_10 36:53

Yeah. I just trying to remind you of the facts.

SPEAKER_00 36:57

But my emotions help me guide me to where I need to go because I feel. Right? Okay. But then you help me remember to think as well. Well, everyone said. Think before you speak. My uncle Melvin said you remind me of him. I love him. Rest in peace. He helped think before you speak. Right? You are the opposite of him, because you my cousin. From another, you know what I mean? My brother, you know what I mean? Like for real. Think before you let your feelings go. Feel me? Logically, but where the emotion kick in with you.

SPEAKER_10 37:29

I just told you it's hard for me.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

I know.

SPEAKER_10 37:32

Difficult.

SPEAKER_00 37:32

And I know, like, see. Sorry.

SPEAKER_10 37:36

I just look at the situation as it is. And I just think about the situation. And I know. I'm me. When it comes to me, I just think about the situation. Why don't you cry or hold it on?

SPEAKER_09 37:47

Well, and I I got a question for you because I've like I said, in these instances where like like Swag was talking earlier, where the females are more emotional, males are more logical. In a relationship scenario, I am the logical one. I lack empathy or emotion or yeah, I know it sounds bullshit. It sounds crazy. It sounds crazy.

SPEAKER_00 38:08

He makes music, he whether before you tell me we're gonna make a song of it.

SPEAKER_09 38:12

It sounds crazy to you, but what I'm what I'm wondering, what I'm wondering with you is is it is it just complete logic all the way across to what is it? No, no, hold on. Okay, is it complete logic from start to finish, or is it a process of processing of emotion and understanding that I don't want to feel that I'd rather logically take care of it?

SPEAKER_10 38:32

Reminder.

SPEAKER_00 38:33

Okay, because it, yeah, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_10 38:35

That's a serious question. It's a serious question. And I just want to remind the audience this is the last free game you guys are gonna get for me.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

You guys go out and pay me for the thing. I don't think we're going out with a bang with it, they're gonna pay us with it. You're right.

SPEAKER_10 38:46

So what I so so we're in that situation that you're talking about, right? When it comes to No, no, when it comes to evolving, like, you know, relationships and partnerships and all that good stuff, right? I understand that the person who I'm in the relationship with is basically emotionally centered for the most part, right? Sure. So I go into the situation knowing that it's gonna go which way anyway, at any given moment, at any given time. Things to go left real quick, real fast. Me thinking logically in there, just like, okay, I'm prepared for that situation. So whatever emotions they're going through, I try to like, you know, tune in with them, be like, okay, all right, so she's upset. Why she's upset about this? Okay, I can see why this is she's upset. However, I still remain true to my logic and reasoning, be like, okay, I get where you're coming from and I can emotionally relate to it. However, I need you to come see how things come to the light over here and see things from like operate outside your own, like no, operate outside your own perspective and try to get you to operate outside your own ego and get like get out of your feelings because if someone's coming at me and they're talking to me just straight from their feelings, I understand because you know the feelings heighten things. It makes things way more explosive than it should be every single time. Everybody who has a functional brain knows that emotions heighten things, right? So me seeing that and been in very emotionally charged situations, I have I'm coming into the situation more prepared than the person that is in the situation feeling things. You gotta react to things more calmly.

SPEAKER_00 40:20

Right, because I'm good in situations where, like you're right, but emotions heighten things. And so, like emergency situations, right? I've been really, I don't get overactive, stay calm while everybody's paying attention.

SPEAKER_10 40:31

Stay calm because you gotta understand.

SPEAKER_00 40:34

See, mine's emergency moments. You do that across the board.

SPEAKER_09 40:36

Across the board. Okay, so like the reason my question is because I've been in that situation. Don't forget I was an EMT and firefighter for 10 years. So you see what I was saying? Yeah, I can set that emotion aside and rely on my logic. But what I'm saying and what I'm asking. Because there's a there's those situations and there's those instances and there's those people that do not have the logic that you have. And you just talked about somebody meeting you where you're at and getting outside their ego. Are you able to do the same? Well, they come to the bottom. Of course, because I can't, I can't what I'm asking.

SPEAKER_10 41:09

I can't I can't talk to talk if I haven't walked away. That's what I'm asking. Where does that balance happen?

SPEAKER_09 41:16

That's the question. What do you mean? He wrote it though. Where's where's that balance happen? That's the question.

SPEAKER_08 41:20

But for somebody who's not as logical as you, you're allowed to be. Okay, no, no, I get what you're lacking emotion, right?

SPEAKER_09 41:27

Okay, yeah, for somebody who is logical as you.

SPEAKER_00 41:30

I know that.

SPEAKER_09 41:31

Right? It makes sense.

SPEAKER_10 41:32

Right. Okay, so what I'm trying to say, what does it mean in the middle where the balance deck? Sir, let me let me tell you right now, when it comes to seeking balance, my scale is off balance.

SPEAKER_05 41:42

And that's why they got the licker in the life.

SPEAKER_10 41:44

Okay. That's why we're here. I am dead emotions. I am deadly near. Y'all, y'all, y'all peeking the mic, man. Calm down, Negroes. What I'm saying is this, though. But I but again, I do understand the fact that emotions serves a purpose. Right. And I do and I respect people say and I respect the emotional process, right? But I do, but but like, but with that being said, like I like I go by you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink. But my thing is, I'm gonna do I'm going to at least lead you to the water. I mean it's a water. What if that horse is retarded though? Water. Hey, but then you're gonna be able to do it. But hey, but hey, but hey. But hey, no, no, no. But hey, even though, even though the horse will not drink the water, I did my job in leading it. Right. I did what I needed to do. But that was the water.

SPEAKER_00 42:39

And I have to make my I have to make my whores used to get force-fed water.

SPEAKER_10 42:44

That okay, but I'm not force-feeding anybody anything to anybody. I'm going to present you, no, I'm going to present you how I see things.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

The backstory don't matter.

SPEAKER_10 42:50

No, no, I'm going to present you how I see things. I'm going to present how I understand and be empathetic on how you see things. You're not empathy. Okay, apathetic how you see things. And I'm going to and listen, I'm going to communicate the way that it bridges, and it's up to you to whether you're going to accept that bridge version or not.

SPEAKER_00 43:09

Exactly. My job is.

SPEAKER_10 43:10

That's that's how I seek the balance. And our job is being empathetic. No, no, no. You're not wrong with this. That's all.

SPEAKER_00 43:16

No, that shit's right. Oh, excuse me. That joint right though, for real point. Is it wrong? No, no, no, it's right. Yeah. Apothetically wise. But then what about this part? What if the reason that horse, person, well, whoever, ain't drinking the water, is because one, they grew up in Flint, Michigan, where the water was bad. And you didn't know. So they came here and now they don't trust nothing. Right. But they don't want to tell you that because everybody else drinking the water, so they think something's wrong with them because they won't, but they don't want to tell you why they can't, because that's a traumatic thing.

SPEAKER_09 43:44

And that's what uh kind of what I was getting to. Not to not too. I just use that because he's not a good thing. No, but no, I did because my boy's smart.

SPEAKER_00 43:49

He gotta hit him where he hit 'cause he's apathetic, he giddy. But logically, I gotta use a real thing so that he can see the emotional side. He i it it would just make him be just eh just a little bit better. Well he might ask one question if they don't answer it right. Oh well.

SPEAKER_10 44:04

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 44:05

But I love that. No, no, because you still led them to drink the water, baby.

SPEAKER_10 44:08

Yeah, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 44:09

And if they don't drink it, you'll give them a water bottle after that.

SPEAKER_10 44:12

No, if they don't drink the water, right? Right? Here's what I do. Here's literally what I do. I sit there and I drink the water by them myself. You show them. Okay and show them how to drink the water. I know I understand I understand that too. And again, it's all go down to a matter of choice. You can either choose you can choose to follow or you can choose to be stuck in your own way.

SPEAKER_09 44:40

That's where your leaf people are.

SPEAKER_00 44:42

Amen.

SPEAKER_09 44:42

That's where your leave people are.

SPEAKER_00 44:46

You know what I mean? But that's really what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 44:49

I can show that the water's good. And I after that, I can't do much more for you.

SPEAKER_00 44:53

And that's what I'm learning.

SPEAKER_09 44:54

Honestly, nothing else is going to be.

SPEAKER_10 44:56

And that's what people who are very emotionally based when they hit that point that they can't do nothing for by what for that person. None of them be like, oh, I'm trying everything and everything everything. But like some people are going to keep on trying because they're delusional. No, no, not delusional.

SPEAKER_00 45:11

That's what I'm saying. Sometimes, you know, when you know, I'm gonna bible questions. You know, I'm gonna use Bible.

SPEAKER_09 45:17

It's doing the same thing over and over again, expecting different results. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:21

But also, I just want to say, no, no, no, you're right. However, I get why people do do when they got a good heart, when you really because you know you're not in the problem. But I would not drain myself to make you feel better. I will not let you take my light because you decided my time was supposed to be your time.

SPEAKER_09 45:42

And that's where the logic comes in. And that's where that's what I was wondering. It's like, where does that look like that?

SPEAKER_00 45:46

You want to be one, you wonder what's even real? When people try to say uh But logic is preset.

SPEAKER_10 45:52

I mean, like, because again, like don't try, love behind is a preset. Dog, you breathe naturally. Logic is logic is just as natural as natural as breathing.

SPEAKER_00 46:05

It can be logic is just as it is emotion is as natural as breathing because you can't take away the heart, but I can change your brain.

SPEAKER_09 46:12

I don't 100% agree with that because you can't. If somebody doesn't know a better way to do something, and you teach them or show them, thank you. That is logically, they're going to do the easier way. Right.

SPEAKER_00 46:25

What are you saying? Emotionally, though. I don't know how you're trying to talk about saying all my life. Here's my analogy I cried to hit somebody.

SPEAKER_10 46:32

When you breathe, right? When you take your first breath, you're not really aware of what a breath is.

SPEAKER_00 46:37

Oh, keep going. No, you're right. Keep going.

SPEAKER_10 46:39

When you breathe, you don't, you're not very conscious of what you're doing. But what I'm saying is this, though. It like logic has the same rules applied to it. You know you need it to function.

SPEAKER_00 46:50

Guess what, though? Breathing is instinctual. Don't go emotionally. Logic is not. Logic had nothing to do with that. I asked you this question. Who was the first? I was how I remember, bro, who was the first person who was like, damn, I took a breath. For real.

SPEAKER_09 47:04

No, but breathing is instinctual as well as logical, not.

SPEAKER_00 47:07

The logic part of it is somebody putting a word to it. Someone putting a um a fact.

SPEAKER_10 47:14

I can see what you guys are saying, but like if you let me finish, I'll let you know, let you know where I'm coming from. What I'm saying is this though, right? Because again, everything is preset. Your lungs know it needs air. Your body knows it needs oxygen.

unknown 47:28

Logic.

SPEAKER_10 47:30

But what's the preset? Preset the shit. That's a higher power of the questions. Ask a higher power. I'm not the higher power. I'm not God, even though I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 47:38

You just know the answers to the question.

SPEAKER_10 47:39

But what I'm yes, what I'm saying is it's the preset. It's a preset. It's already preset. It's already embedded in you that breathing is functional. It's a functional thing that you're just born with. Yes, you breathe. If you're born with sight, you see. If you're born with the ability to taste, you taste. Or if you're born, one of them gives you a big baby. So again, and when you're a like I see, I have babies and I see them logically looking at things, it'd be like, yeah, I'm not gonna put my mouth on that. I'm going to do something else. That's logic.

SPEAKER_00 48:15

You gotta, you use a masia with that one, ain't it?

SPEAKER_10 48:18

Yeah, no, I'm just saying, like, no, no, again, again, logic. I'm less all three of them, they have a logic thing. I'm hungry, so therefore I need to logically communicate that I'm hungry, even though I can know that it's not logic. It's your stinky stomach is hurting. And you know, they know they need some, they know they know they need to be replenished.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

The logic is them telling you verbally. You have to figure it out as a part of which one it is.

SPEAKER_09 48:43

Logic would come down to let me just give an example right now. If I grew up only with forks in the house, and I ate soup with forks, and you came along and showed me a soup. Listen, listen, just listen. Listen, if I ate, if I ate a soup with a fork and then drank the broth afterwards, and that's the only way I ever knew how to eat soup, and then you came along and showed me a spoon, in my brain, logically, it would make way more fucking sense to use a spoon. True. I learned that logic, it wasn't pre-programmed. My instinct to eat was still there. I was still hungry. Right. But how to eat the logic of how to make myself make the job easier. Okay, so stop. So if I bring in a spoon, stop, stop, stop.

SPEAKER_10 49:28

So if I bring in a spoon, you be eating with you've been eating. No, no, that that kind of dispels the whole thing. Because if you've been eating soup with a fork your whole life, that's the only way you know how to eat uh uh soup, right? With a fork. If I come through with the spoon, you're actually like, wait, wait, wait, why why do I need jackets? Why do I like like what's going on here? No, you're being taught that, right? Because logically, you told me that's the thing. But I'm just saying, bro, but if logically they eat a spoon. But it's logic. But like if I eat the soup with the fork, I'm eating, I'm still in the space.

SPEAKER_00 49:59

I've never had a spoon to know they existed. I'm eating the soup either. You logically can't process that people grew up with just fork to know that it existed. That's what he's told.

SPEAKER_10 50:08

I can get that point, but I'm saying that they know how to consume a soup, period, right? They're consuming a soup, are they not? He said they eat all the big joints and then they drink the broth. My body is hungry. I need to consume food. Instinct.

SPEAKER_00 50:24

Because everybody got a spoon, right?

SPEAKER_10 50:26

Instinct. Everybody in the world got a spoon.

SPEAKER_09 50:29

Our world countries got food. But instinct in your ways. Sometimes. Logic can be taught. Instinct can always be taught. That's true. That part is true. Instinct cannot always be. You can't make it. That's true. Like you said, you can take a horse to water. You cannot make it drink. If I can show the horse how to drink and it still decides not to, it lacks a logical brain.

SPEAKER_10 50:53

You got a point there. Right? That's a point. That's a point. That's what I was getting at. That's a point.

SPEAKER_00 50:57

But well, you know how I'm not dumb. I'm smart.

SPEAKER_10 50:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 50:59

Filet, I'm gonna tell a story on myself that I only done told y'all in prior, but I'm gonna say it out loud. Because it's what you on. Uh filet mignon. I eat steak. Never knew what filet mignon was because to me I thought it was fish. Because we I ate fish fillets growing up. And mignon sounds like a motherfucker from overseas. So these fans can eat fish fillets. We go to Bayfront. Everybody ordering fish uh filet mignon. I'm like, I just want some steak. And they just like get filet mignon. And I said out loud, a room full of people. I don't want fish fillets. No, but li I'm not graduated with I never had fillet man yon.

SPEAKER_01 51:42

Right.

SPEAKER_00 51:43

That don't make me dumb, but logically, I is I is I put filet with fish fillet.

SPEAKER_10 51:49

And then y'all cover them overseas. No, but that's what I'm saying, though. It hurts. What you guys are introducing to the whole case is producing information to the unknown. Logically. But it is logic to accept said information and acceptance of the information you are born with. It's preseted with. It agrees with you. If you're like, yo, I've been eating soup with a fork my whole life, but this makes more sense to eat. No, no. But it makes more sense to eat soup with a spoon. That's because you got presented the information that you've been that you resonated with.

SPEAKER_09 52:27

And you resonated with it because logic is preseted in you. No, logically it made more sense.

SPEAKER_00 52:34

Because I never seen a spoon, but then I seen one. I'm like, after that, I'm never going back to a board. Because new information got provided to you.

SPEAKER_09 52:42

But how is it preset if it's new information?

SPEAKER_00 52:46

So, so spoon is a good idea. No, no, you are gonna Because I'm sick of you. You know, I'm sick of y'all.

SPEAKER_10 52:54

I'm sick of y'all. You guys are not even no, no.

SPEAKER_00 52:57

I got some real questions I want to talk about.

SPEAKER_10 52:59

Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

Okay, because honey, you get on my nerves sometimes. And I love you for who you are, and I don't want you trying to. But you know what? What I always say on everyone.

SPEAKER_10 53:08

New information gets presented to you, your logic is trying to trying to determine A to accept the said information or B to reject it.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

So what is emotion?

SPEAKER_10 53:18

Emotion is a feeling that you get from eating the fucking soup. Finally with a spoon. That's the emotion of it.

SPEAKER_00 53:26

And I cried because I didn't know a spoon existed. And now I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_10 53:30

Oh, because new information got introduced to me that my logic agreed with. That my logic agreed with. If you're presented with new information, it's up to your logic to either determine to accept it or reject it. That's what I'm trying to tell y'all. You're correct. You're correct.

SPEAKER_09 53:51

Logic is problem solving, correct? Yes. It is me. So that's one concept of logic, yes.

SPEAKER_00 53:56

But it is, though. It's not a bad thing. It is not a bad thing. You apathetic, go keep saying.

SPEAKER_09 54:00

But with the same sentiment, if logic is predetermined, then if the information is presented in front of me, like a math problem, and the math problem makes sense. Right. Because someone taught me the logic behind the math problem.

SPEAKER_10 54:14

Someone presented new information to you that your brain accepted.

SPEAKER_09 54:18

New is not preset.

SPEAKER_10 54:22

What are you talking about? We're talking about the logic. You're saying new information. New information preset. No, the logic is preset because you gotta agree. Like the logic is just your brain. Is you determining whether the new information that you're being introduced makes sense or does it make sense? How do I say that?

SPEAKER_00 54:37

New logic is already preset. We all should be there where like I It's already.

SPEAKER_10 54:44

It's right there. All you gotta do is grab it.

SPEAKER_00 54:46

You the reason why y'all made that album ego. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_08 54:50

No, that's right.

SPEAKER_10 54:53

Oh man, moving on, man. Moving on, man.

SPEAKER_00 54:58

I gotta say something. We're gonna take a pause. Squeeze. Anywho, let me tell you something. Miss Rachel. Y'all know Miss Rachel. Y'all got kids?

SPEAKER_01 55:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

Y'all got kids? Do you have your kids as Miss Rachel though? Miss Rachel. Yep.

SPEAKER_09 55:13

My first two Malachi, not yet.

SPEAKER_00 55:15

No, but sorry, put Malachi on it right now. Right now to the tomorrow. Um, Miss Rachel is the perfect example. A Caucasian ally. Using a platform. Have y'all seen what she's been doing? So know them well. In that case, you know, with the boy who went out with all the white folk on the boat and a good time, and then all of a sudden they just appear clearly, and they take it. I mean, they can love everything. And all the time don't make no sense. Anyway, you know what's crazy? Real quick back, right? If you trace his his his people, where you forming all that? How to be well. How to be well line. Okay. They ain't got no hard.

SPEAKER_09 56:06

Seeing what's happening with it, like I saw she posted something the other day that was, you know, saying this this case was clearly racist.

SPEAKER_00 56:17

Bro, everything about it. They brought Nancy B. Grace back out.

SPEAKER_09 56:21

But is this not the same story we've been talking about?

SPEAKER_00 56:24

No, it but you know what's good? But what's good about it is what's good about it. But what's good about it is what's happening right now. We got people coming out the woodwork on it. You know what I mean? Like, Miss Rachel literally has stood up. That's where I was going with it. I remember where I was going. Sometimes I smoke a lot of weight. You know what I mean? And I be getting passionate and getting on a tangent. Bring me back. I always tell my boys that. But uh, Miss Rachel, she literally has been going in, like, y'all know this case wasn't right. Y'all know that it's messed up, and I'm tired of it. Like, look her up for real though, bro. Like, people been talking drawing to her, and she'd been like, I don't care. I'm so sick of it. Like, if you if you support what happened in that case, just stop looking at it. Like, look at a man. Listen, that is a perfect example of an ally. I think it's important that we clarify what allies look like. You know allies look like they call cage. But they had a hard conversation.

SPEAKER_09 57:25

I think I mean put herself in the line of fire. Yeah. We've been in the line of fire for a long time. We stay there. But it is what it is. I appreciate the sentiment. I don't know if it's gonna make a difference. It's a hundred and ten percent sentiment. Like, I don't know if I love the fact this is the hard part. This is the hard part for us. This is and I see the skeptical look on the soft faces. Is it genuine or is it trying to build a platform?

SPEAKER_10 57:52

I'm not even going with that. That's not that's not even where I'm going with it.

SPEAKER_00 57:55

But I want to where you're going with it.

SPEAKER_10 57:56

I know, I know exactly what you're talking about. Okay, then talk about it. And I have looked about it, man. And it's just like, yeah, I know. And and and here's my thing, yo. Is talking about it is one thing. Real allyship is actually doing something about it. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 58:12

I appreciate the sense of what you're supposed to do. Nancy Grace has popped back out. She made that happen.

SPEAKER_10 58:19

She's not a couple of people. It's hard to talk to you with your cape on.

SPEAKER_00 58:22

I'm not having a cape. There's no damn cape. This is a communication thing.

SPEAKER_10 58:27

Yeah, it's communication requires listening.

SPEAKER_00 58:29

I'm talking for the ally.

SPEAKER_10 58:31

No, for you.

SPEAKER_00 58:31

I'm gonna shut up, but like, she's not an ally using a platform.

SPEAKER_10 58:35

No, I'm not saying that she's not an ally if you're using a platform. I'm just saying anybody can hop on their platform and speak on things. It takes a whole different thing to go out and do something. I'm not saying that Miss Rachel doesn't do anything because I saw that she uh took um, went to a detention center full of like, you know, ICE uh immigrants entertainment. So she has no no, she has done things. I'm black, I'm part of, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 58:58

I've been on the front lines with the KK.

SPEAKER_10 59:00

Okay, like we've been, yeah, we've marched, we've been on the line. Yes, yes, I have. Okay. But what I'm saying is this. But what I'm saying is this, though, for an ally to be like, yo, okay, speak on this up. But like, you know, Miss Rachel is one one of one, for sure. Exactly. I'm not, I'm not here to I'm not here to speak against that, but I'm just saying it's more than allyship than just to speak, you have to do. Well, that's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 59:26

Yeah, no, and that's what I was agreeing on. That's what I was kind of saying. Like, the the sentiment is great. Uh it's beautiful. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 59:34

I think we need more of it. We think we need more.

SPEAKER_10 59:36

But it's just like, but like allyship is not just speaking on a situation that happened. Real allyship is attacking the system, and attacking the system itself is something that we as black people can only do so much for. For real allyship, for real white allied ship, what you're talking about is they have to take the uh take this to another level that is beyond us. Because we have been fighting for centuries and decades just to just to just to have the right to exist. It is.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:03

So what I'm saying is, yeah, so so I'm just saying she's talking to her platform.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:07

Okay, she's talking to her platform, but like Oh, mostly white folks.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:10

She's aiming at white folks.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:11

That's cool, but if them white folks band together and actually do something to it to destruct uh to deconstruct the system as it is, then we're talking. Now we're talking. So right now we're just praising somebody for speaking up, which is cool. We're not praising somebody. Which is cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:26

She's still on it. She's losing sponsorship from the audience.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:29

Those are sponsorships that she does it once. That's not hard to do if you're on the if you're on the if you're on the side of righteousness, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:41

Fuck. We are talking together.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:43

I'm trying to tell you something, yo. What I'm trying to tell you is this, man. When you are like actually doing the stuff that you're doing, like you're talking about like, okay, we're an album. A platform. Everybody has a platform they can fucking use, swag.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:55

Yeah, but she's a white woman.

SPEAKER_10 1:00:57

Okay, every white woman has a platform that she can she can use, right? But it's every white woman banded together and deconstructing the system as it is. No, I'm just saying, but you know, you're throwing in, like, oh, she's talking to her peoples. Her peoples are included in this thing, right? White people are included in this, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:01:13

No, I'm talking about her using her platform correctly as a woman being an ally for the Nolan Wales case.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:18

Okay. I think I think what Assad's saying is the action from the sentiment. Like I was saying, I appreciate the sentiment. I'm just literally talking about it. 100%. No, 100%. And I appreciate Miss Rachel doing it. I appreciate her doing what she's doing. She's doing what she does.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:34

She were the head all our phones.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:35

No, I think what Assad's getting to is what is what she's doing gonna make her platform people do something.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:42

She was somebody on the Underground Railroad we would have utilized to get where we need to go for freedom. And that doesn't matter, though, because her platform is not the Underground Railroad, I guess. I'm just saying acknowledge where it's a real ally. Everybody else.

SPEAKER_10 1:01:58

I'm not discrediting you to equate Miss Rachel to Harry or Times. No, I did not.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:02

I gave her to the people that helped the uh how do you think the Underground Railroad worked? Like I know how it works. Because we have almost work in staying the basement.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:12

But I'm saying, okay, okay, but like, okay, okay. That's cool. But look, no, no, but look at the big picture. The underground railroad, yeah, the underground without wife over real allies.

SPEAKER_09 1:02:25

That's what that's what I'm saying. Is okay, Miss Rachel's doing it. I tease her for a while. With her platform, no, and I say she's just listening to it. I agree. No, I'm sure. I agree. Are the neighbors doing it? No. I think that's what he's getting to. Is Miss Rachel's neighbors, her viewers, her platform is mostly white people. They see her doing it, but they're not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:44

But somebody gotta call them out. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_10 1:02:47

There's been plenty of example of white people calling out other white people. The action is there's been plenty of white people who still don't been.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:54

Jane Fonda, Tim Wise. That uh Nolan Wells is done, it's all is she still gonna be on the same side?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:00

Is it still gonna be the same thing? Is there gonna be the same? Because it doesn't just end with Nolan Wells.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:04

That's a real question.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:05

It doesn't just end with Nolan Wells. It's gonna be a lot more Nolan Wells coming about. And real allied ship makes sure there is no more Nolan Wells story going about. And Nolan Wells just there is no more Trayvon Martin going about. There is no more Breonna Gray going about. There is no more George Floyd going about. That's real allied ship having tangible actions of deconstruction.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:30

All I'm saying is, we've been looking round and round and round on this merry-go-round, and now Nolan Wells and with the platform like that. But Nolan Wells is just the most recent.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

I agree with that.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:42

And he's not the last, not the first. I'm agree with that. And you know what I'm saying? And that's what I'm saying. From the jump.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:50

But at some point everybody gets attacking the roots.

SPEAKER_10 1:03:53

It's attacking the root, not the weeds. Because everyone can cut off the weeds. You got to get rid of the weeds, you got to dig in and get rid of the roots.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:01

I hope she keeps it going. But goddamn, why wouldn't she if everybody thinks it's just a child?

SPEAKER_09 1:04:06

I hope so.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:07

I mean back out.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:09

Realistically.

SPEAKER_10 1:04:10

But I'm just saying, man, like real allied ship is making sure, like, hey, man, let's make sure we got more some more black banks going around. Real allied ship is, yo, let's get some more schools going around. Real allied ship is really leaving black people the fuck alone. Hey, real allyship is like, hey, hey, make sure, hey, if they want to rebuild a Tulsa, Oklahoma, let's make sure everyone is left alone for them to rebuild their communities and heal. That's real allied ship right there. Just saying, it has to be larger than just speaking up on your platform.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:41

No, no, no, not out here like that. Don't get twisted. I do agree. My whole point of bringing up is just like I'm not capping, bro, but unity has to occur. And we gotta appreciate the ones that not everybody, not all of them. I ain't saying all of them. I literally make it I hate saying it. But we can't put them all in one box because we know that's not real. But the ones that do count, the ones that do show up, the ones that do go out wild with it.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:10

I know we don't need many.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:11

We only need about five to six percent. We got it from there.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:15

No, we haven't, dog. If you really look at where we have to be here.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:20

That's what I was just gonna say, too, is at the end of the day, like you were talking about, it comes down to building communities for us and us and us. What are we doing?

SPEAKER_10 1:05:28

Yeah, I mean, we could point for feet here and talk about Miss Rachel all day long.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:33

The fuck we do.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:33

Yeah, no, no, no.

unknown 1:05:34

And I totally agree.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:36

Hey, hey, hey, buddy, hey, buddy, hey, buddy, we we we've been trying to get ourselves together for a long time, but it's kind of hard for us to get ourselves together when we got ops constantly in our business and mucking up everything. We try to get our joint together at the black party, uh, the black party, the Black Panther party.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:57

No, we can't.

SPEAKER_10 1:05:57

That was us trying to get things together, but That's what happened. The government got involved.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:02

Kill the leaders.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:04

Um we we we try to get things together. Like like uh when when uh when uh old boy Dr. Kitty wanted to integrate the system, but he integrated the system, and what did that do for us?

SPEAKER_00 1:06:15

Oh now we black leaders both go to school together.

SPEAKER_10 1:06:17

Oh, yay. I mean, we get a good education. But we're still getting shot in the streets, we still don't got our own banks, we still don't go uh we still don't have our own hospitals, we still don't have our own grocery stores, we still don't have our own companies that we can run without our resources being limited or have inadequate. So I'm just saying, look around you where we at and look what all these allies have been doing so far and look at where we're at and it hasn't gotten a shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:46

No, no, no. Allies don't I don't know what to do. No, I'm just saying, bro, it's like it's brand was one of the first black women to go to university in Maryland. Like, Burrito, like, I didn't say nothing about that, but allies do matter, like it was a You gotta tell the uh Alright, but we ain't we that's too like I get what you saying. You're not wrong, but like we all gotta work together at some point.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:08

We do, but we gotta do that. But that point's not now. That point's not now.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:12

Well then when?

SPEAKER_10 1:07:13

Hey, when we 2020. When we get left to fuck alone, stop fucking with us. When they leave us to fuck alone, that's when the unity can happen.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:24

But you know what? What's crazy? I know my rights.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:26

That's when it can be.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:26

I pull myself out. That's when you're known for.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:29

Hey, they gotta leave us alone for at least a couple generations, and then we can do the unity talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:34

Alright, then we just gonna stay in the same mode. Alright, nothing gonna change. And you cool with it.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:40

I'm not cool with it, but it is what it is. If I can do the thing, if I can be Benos and get my own infinity gauntlet. I know I have my own. You know what I'm gonna do with it. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:53

No secret. There's no secret. We're gonna we're gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out.

SPEAKER_10 1:07:59

But shout out to Miss Rachel, though, for real. But at least try, hopefully. Because y'all are out there important.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:03

Hopefully, hopefully I got your back on this now.

SPEAKER_10 1:08:05

Chemistry says that y'all are important, and I know what I'm inclined to do.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:11

Okay? I didn't say the name. I do, I do rock with Miss Rachel. I like Miss Rachel. She's helping artistic. But I do understand, I do understand where the side's coming from.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:20

Once you broke it down, I get that. What's she gonna do with this? It's been happening. But it's been happening. But it's the one she picked now. I got you.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:27

And why why now? I got so many questions. Why now? Is it because you have this large ass platform and you can and you're gonna get more exposure from a different crowd?

SPEAKER_00 1:08:37

I mean, that's a good question. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_09 1:08:39

Because is it is it is it now that now that she's doing this, she's getting more black viewers? I don't know. I just know that's a good idea. I don't want to put, like I said, shout out to Miss Rachel. I'm not trying to put any shade. She helped a lot of people. I just have questions. You're right.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:49

A lot of black people.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:50

I just have questions like why why right now is mine include? That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:54

She helps a lot of color, uh autistic kids. All right, to close this out and to kind of close that out.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:00

And to bridge the us doing music and the emotional logicals and this whole being a father thing. We're gonna no no watch because track, I got a question for you, man, because you're a father of three, I'm a father of three, right? What scares you more though? Failing or succeeding and missing moments with our little ones. What does failing look like?

SPEAKER_00 1:09:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:09:28

That's that's for you to determine, sir. I can't say failing or succeeding but missing moments.

SPEAKER_09 1:09:36

I don't even know anymore. Like I thought I knew, and then I watch this is real shit too, because I watched a video today of Shaquille O'Neal talking to his son. And his son's trying to go to the draft. And and Shaq is telling his son, like, I'm just trying to let you know, like, I've done this. I've I've been the man, the superstar. And I just want you to understand you're going to sacrifice everything you want for what you think you need right now. And Shaq straight up told him, I sacrificed my family to be a superstar. But look, he's telling his older son that.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:12

But look what that sacrifice got Shaq at. And for him, and for him to have those, to be able to have that conversation with his son, is that missing a moment?

SPEAKER_09 1:10:23

I don't know. That's the hardest part. I don't know. I don't know. Because will I get that moment or that opportunity to explain that to my child later on? Or will they resent me? Yes. Because I was always gone.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:35

I think that's indifferent. Y'all are bothering me.

SPEAKER_10 1:10:38

But here, but like, no, okay, so here's what I'm saying though. All right. When it comes to me, to me personally, failing scares me more. Because I could be there for my kids all day long, but if I can't really fully do my fucking job as a father, I failed. Yeah. I got all the memories, they got all the bonding, but what did I leave them with? What did I give them? What what what tools that I provide for them to have their own successful life? So if I can, if I need to sacrifice some moments to to order to put my children in a position to succeed. And for us, so they make it to, of course, their children, they're going to have their feelings about them growing up and their father not being around as much. But when they become adults, then we have the opportunity to have these kind of conversations. Right. Right? And then their adult minds are going to operate a little bit differently than their child minds. They're going to understand, they're going to be tasting the real world, like, oh shit, there's bills and responsibilities and the pressures of being adult in America. Whoop doop doop. That logic brain. Whoop is going to is going to prevail. So I'm just saying, I rather, me personally, and where I'm at in life, like, and I thought I think about this damn near every day because half of me be like, yo, I want to, because the fact that I never had my father growing up.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:11:54

I want to be like, yo, I want to pour every single moment into these kids. But then I look at my situation and where I'm at. And then it's just like, but like, but I'm buttons. Hold up. But I'm failing in that aspect. But I'm there every day, but I'm failing in other aspects as well.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:12

Okay, but when you ask that question, this is why I came back with a question. What does failing look like to you? Because to me, that's not failing, my boy. Okay. Listen, brother, if you you're there for those kids, that's more than you ever had.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:26

That's not failure. Amen.

SPEAKER_10 1:12:27

But if I could break a curve, but if I could be there for these kids and I can help provide provide for them to set them up. You can still provide it. No, but you're still provide more.

SPEAKER_09 1:12:37

You can teach your kids lessons without giving them anything. Yeah. That's old school raising. You understand what I'm saying? And that's why I asked, what does family look like to you? Because I can, I don't have shit to give my kids. I don't have shit to give my kids. And I can say the same thing. I didn't grow up without a father. My father got deported when I was two years old. That nigga lives in Nigeria. All the way African. I was raised by my grandpa. And my grandpa had money, and we had cars and toys and four-wheelers and motorcycles growing up. But when he died, I didn't get shit. But lessons. Okay. That's all I got.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:14

That's all I got too.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:15

My grandpa didn't fail me. He gave me more than I could ever fucking ask for. Invaluable. Okay. Invaluable. It's not monetary. I don't need the assets. I need the fucking information. I need the understanding of how grown people work as a young black man. And we're talking about my grandpa was white. My grandpa was way, he called me a nigga. True. Little niggas. I grew up with niggas. You know what I'm saying? I was his little niggle. But fuck up. It sounds crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:46

No, no, but it's important though.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:48

No, it sounds crazy. He wasn't racist. He wasn't racist. It was just in that generation where he was grown. But I was his I learned everything. He gave me all his knowledge, everything he ever knew, and that's why I'm able to do what I do, and I have the job that I have now, and I'm able to provide for my kids, is because of what he taught me. Not the money he gave me, not the assets he left me, but what he taught me.

SPEAKER_10 1:14:11

Okay, so the so the follow-up question is though, but what does success actually look like to you? Is it is it the money? Is it fame? Is it legacy? Is it is it is it is it like you know what I'm saying? Like what does success You say what does failing looks like you say what failing looks like, what does success?

SPEAKER_09 1:14:27

Success to me equates to happiness. My personal happiness. Whether that be a whole lot of money so I can buy whatever the fuck I want. Or it be being broke and I don't have shit, but I'm happy because I got a garden and I can go out in the backyard and I can pick tomatoes and peppers with my kids and fucking cook dinner. If that makes me happy, that's success to me. Okay, you know what I'm saying? Like at the end of the day, success shouldn't be defined by how much I have or how much I'm worth or how much or how much I can give, but how much I gave while I was here. How much, yeah, how much time, how much effort, how much value, how much understanding I gave my people in these conversations like this, my children and in the real life conversations. And they can listen back to this. That's success to me. You know what I mean? At the end of the day, I can have negative $5 in my pocket, and I guarantee you my kids would love every fucking minute they're with me.

SPEAKER_10 1:15:22

Okay, so with that being said, I got like a little scenario I want to throw you away. Okay? Say you miss some birthdays, but you were getting some career, say, say we're we're deep into music right now. Say, say we get some we catch a wave and we have an opportunity after opportunity after opportunity, and we're missing birthdays because of these opportunities, right? Years later, these opportunities changed the whole family's life. Were we selfish or were we sacrificing? Selfish.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:58

So at the end of the day, I feel you you have that decision to make. You have that decision to make, and you chose money over family.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:08

And no, don't get it twisted because tour shows.

SPEAKER_09 1:16:11

And I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm not saying you're wrong for it. Yeah, but you chose that. You chose that, you chose that, and that's what Shaq, like I said, that conversation really hit me today, and Shaq, Shaq, Shaq chose Superstar over family. I see, I guess. But he let his son know Shaq is damn near a billionaire and can leave his kids with something.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:28

Shaq had Shawnee? Is he leaving?

SPEAKER_09 1:16:30

But does he leave him with something or is he leaving them with a bunch of stuff?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:33

But listen, he don't got kids outside of Shawnee.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:35

He's leaving them with the tools to build their life how they want to build. That's what you're saying. That's what money is, brother. It's a tool that you call you. It is a tool. So is it build a life that you want so is known?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:47

All them kids with one woman.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:50

You can know everything in the world, but if you ain't got a dime in your pocket, sir, what do you know?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:55

Niggas.

SPEAKER_10 1:16:55

What do you know? You could be the smartest person in the world, but if you only got $2 in your pocket, what what what?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:01

You got $2 in your pocket. And that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:03

What defines happiness? If I'm cool with $2 in my pocket and I'm still fucking happy, what does a billion dollars mean to me?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:10

I ain't got no dollars in $20.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:12

You don't know why the difference between a billion dollars and two dollars, but I don't care, but at the end of the day, who gives a dollar? If I'm happy, what's it matter?

SPEAKER_00 1:17:19

Who's happy but two dollars? I'd be fine with two dollars, bro, but no dollars.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:23

I got $17 in my wallet right now, and I'm fucking cool. I would be in the same mood if I had a billion dollars in my bank account because I wouldn't go do anything or buy anything that I don't fucking already have.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:35

But I know if I got, if I need something, I'll just do that.

SPEAKER_09 1:17:38

I would just be buying extra shit. I would just be buying extravagant shit and shit I didn't fucking need. That's you.

SPEAKER_10 1:17:45

Me on the other hand, if I had a billion dollars, boy. That's what I'm saying. You don't need it. Take your body. Oh, yes, I do. For the scheme I have in my mind, I need that billy.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:57

Bro, that comes with extra. I need that billy.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:01

No, man, I need that billy, bruh. What I got planned in mind, yeah. I need that billy. I need that billy, billy, billy, bill, billy. All right, um this is a good conversation so far.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:13

Oh, never mind. It's random. I got random things. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:16

Um, real quick, uh, just to shoot back to the music, I got a I got a scenario I want to throw you away, right? You ready for this? I want to see how you go. Because you're a producer. So I want to make sure that you know, I want to hear your perspective on this, right? Say you, say I blow up, a rapper blows up, his producer wants 50% ownership of everything moving forward because I help build this. Who's wrong?

SPEAKER_09 1:18:47

You're saying if I blow up I just want to put it in a scenario a scenario I understand. I'm the producer, you're the rapper. Yes. You blow up off the songs, but I want 50%.

SPEAKER_10 1:18:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_09 1:18:59

What's your argument?

SPEAKER_10 1:19:01

My argument is I'm the talent, I'm the voice, I'm the face, I'm the reason why it's being blown up in the first place. Are you? People responded to the voice and the persona, the front man, people responded to the voice.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:18

They responded to the sonics, the sound, and that all comes down to the producer.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:22

You couldn't drop your voice without the beat code.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:25

You know what I'm saying? I can record you because you sound like dog shit. Right. Or I can record you and I can make you sound like that. So, so so you feel like you're validated, but like so, so but I feel like the work, uh-huh, 50% of the work, if I'm producing, mixing, mastering, making the beat, recording, engineering, doing all that, that is 50% of the work. Even though I didn't write 50% of the song.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:44

You ain't do 50% of that work.

SPEAKER_09 1:19:46

You didn't do 50% of that. I did most 75 to 85% of that. And you wrote a 16-bar verse that sounded great. And I made it sound great because I'm the fucking engineer. Right.

SPEAKER_10 1:19:58

But at the end of the day, it wouldn't have sounded great if I didn't do my thing trying to so you feel like the producer be totally justified asking for 50. But going forward. Going forward, going forward is a key word.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:13

Going forward. If the dynamic stayed the same. If I was the producer, you were the the artist, I continued to make the beats. But I'm the engineer.

SPEAKER_10 1:20:21

But I'm blowing up. I could I can I could work with infinite amount of producers and engineers and stuff like that. But I'm but but you still want 50% of what I'm doing. No, no, no, no. No, no, no. That's that's that's the argument.

SPEAKER_09 1:20:34

See, and this is what this is where it gets confused. I want 50% of the product, the creation, the copyright. What we came out with, the the thing that blew up, I want 50% of that. What's that whatever's moving forward. Whatever you do, that's yours. But 50% of what we came up with and what got you to where you're at. Yeah. Yeah. Give me 50% of mine. Because it wasn't all you. I'm 110% on that. I just want to get I just want to pick your brain on that part. No, but I like this conversation. And we we have these conversations when we do song splits and shit. Why do you think that's true? Because I'm like, hey, bro, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 1:21:10

Bro, I'm just like rapping on my boy's beat and killing the shit. That's all I'm doing. I know what I know what I'm doing. I know where I'm at. I know where I'm at with that. You want it?

SPEAKER_00 1:21:20

No, that's real though, because people need to know that, like, going forward, anybody trying to take something off of it.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:25

No, because it's a it's a lot of work, you know what I mean? And I understand, like, we'll just use for example, and I'm not saying this is the situation with me and Asad at all. We don't we don't beef over 50% splits here and there.

SPEAKER_10 1:21:35

No, yeah, not at all. It is what it is. You know what I mean? Let's get an example. We both got mouths to feed, in my opinion. So I'm watching whatever's clever. Absolutely. Whatever's clever.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:43

You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_10 1:21:44

But but if it did come down to that, like, if I produced the music, I recorded the music, I engineered it, there's 10, 20, 50, 75, but if I wrote the whole entire song, including your verse too.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:59

Which is fine. Right. But you have to understand this is a job, and we have to get paid. And so if it took me 80, 80, 90, 120, 10.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:09

But say the rapper, nothing. Say the rapper not only wrote the entire song, crafted the hook, done everything, but also taught you how to do your verse. So that's a different song. That's different. Because at that point, 40. No, no, no, that's not where I'm coming from.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:25

No, I don't think it's a good thing. Wait, that's a different question, though.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:27

If you wrote the song, uh, The Hook, uh-huh, coached the engineer on how you wanted it to sound, yeah, and constructed the song from your brain to my brain as an engineer. That's my job is to interpret what you want and how you want to hear it. But if you know that's what it is. This is your song. If you came to the studio with a beat ready, lyrics ready, hook ready, and say, hey, I just need you to record, I just need you to record this.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:55

Which is a collaborative effort.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:56

That's what I'm saying. This is where it gets where it gets sticky. This is where it gets sticky because if you came in with a beat ready, hook ready, verse ready, all that shit ready, and you just needed me to record it and engineer it and master it so it can be released, I want 25%.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:11

You did 75% of that work, but I still put my 25% on it.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:16

You still created it. Yeah. So like I feel like you took my thought out my brain, like you listened. So maybe more than what you said, 30%?

SPEAKER_09 1:23:23

25%. 25%. And that's how I do my splits. I do my splits 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%. You know what I'm saying? Now, let's say Asad comes with his verse, I come with my verse, but Lance made the beat.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:37

Okay, okay, okay. I like that.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:39

That's 50% 25% for me, 25% for Asad, 50% for Lance. Because we did only the verses in hood. But he's done. He's done 25, 30, 40, 50 hours of production behind that beat.

SPEAKER_10 1:23:56

So with that being said, hold up, since we're talking, since shout out to Nata Clue, by the way. Since we're bringing up like, so what's one thing that people completely misunderstand about producers?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:05

Yeah, that's a good question.

SPEAKER_09 1:24:08

We're fucking magicians. I mean, you kinda are, but you know, if you suck. That's that's that's what I'm saying. That's what I was getting to is auto-tune is not fix shitty lyrics or shitty music. At the end of the day, if if it sounds good, then a real producer is gonna let you know. Now, a friend, a friend will tell you, hey, yeah, bro, that sounds good. I've had conversations where Asad with like, hey, bro, change this word, change that word, do this this way. Like, I'm a producer. I'm not trying to fucking criticize his work, but I want it to sound bright. I want it to sound professional as best as it can. You know what I mean? So that to me as a producer, that's how, yeah, that's weird though. Like some people are a lot of people are critics. A lot of people are critics, and you get the fucking YouTube producers, and you get the right thing. Anyone who's got a laptop and a free program is a producer or a DJ, and they got an opinion on what your music sounds like. Okay. But our producers are like, that's that's that's not it.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:08

What I always say, me and you agree on this. Uh we lyrics, we do music. You can go to the studios with people who be like, uh, how I usually say on it. Me and you going to that studio probably wouldn't work for us. It's like I don't want to sound like everybody else. Mark and Wright. You know how they do, they put the same sounds, the same filter, the same, yeah, yeah, yeah. They gotta go presets. The presets. They have a preset.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:33

The beat they probably use similar something like six or seven times. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:37

I don't want to go to that person.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:38

Never mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:39

I want to go, okay.

SPEAKER_08 1:25:41

Never mind.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:42

That's how we be though. I want to go to the person who don't got that, who who's gonna record to my voice, my energy, my sweat, my me. You know what I mean? Well, and that's that's how you find a real producer.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:53

That's what I try to do. That's why I like you. And that's why I like I'm having this conversation with Asad. I would ask for more in the percentage in that split because I'm trying to do, I'm doing more.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:05

You know what I mean? I could just let you run with it. And just drive it and do and mix it how you want, master. I've done it. I've got a couple local artists. I've just, that's what you want, bro. I'll master it just like that and release it just like that. If you want me to do my job as a producer, as an engineer, then I need more money, I need more percentage, but I'm gonna do my thing on it. You know what I mean? And you hear, you can hear the difference between the music that that not and and this is not a shade against anybody. No. Shout out to Not a Clue because he's an incredible producer. Yeah, you don't. But I did go to, I did I got an education in this shit. And I mixed and mastered our second album, and it sounded better than our first. You know what I mean? Well, you are a double producer. Because of that, I gave myself more splits in those songs. I gave 50 to me, 50 to rather than 25 to me and 50 to Lance because I did all of that work, the mixing, the mastering, the engineering, the theory.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:03

But I used to call it what was your original uh when you started? I remember people tell me. When I first started, what was your name on it?

SPEAKER_09 1:27:12

Like track star.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:13

Trackstar. So you've always been track star.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:14

Yeah, it's always been track star. Always. That was when I always that was my DJ name.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:18

That's what it was, DJ. I didn't know you were a DJ. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:20

I was a DJ all through high school, not through high school, towards the end of high school and then, you know, through my college years or whatever.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:28

How'd y'all meet?

SPEAKER_09 1:27:29

Through that. Through that. DJ DJ him, him and Julio actually. Julio younger than you, so yeah, him and Julio were part of we we had these street teams. So younger. Which uh which I won't I won't mention I won't mention names and get too deep into the hoops. We get we get false names.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:47

We get false names. We're like give them a name that picked up. Nah, man.

SPEAKER_08 1:27:50

Shout out to Julio Punk. No, shout out to Julio, but I'm saying the employer was uh abusing child labor.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:58

Oh man.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:59

We had These things set up called street teams, which were basically the thing.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:04

I don't think that's a good thing.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:09

Because I was the oldest dude on that street team. My boss back then recruited high school kids to pass out flyers to come and volunteer to set up the events.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:21

That boy exporting minors.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:23

They did all the work. They set up the speakers. They did all the shit. Set up the stage. We might get Denny's. Once a month, and you got to get Diddy's after that. We got to the shoes. So it's a $15 ticket. Let's not get it fucked up. It was a $15 ticket. $15 in max.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:42

Crazy work.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:43

But then we get maybe go to Denny's. Look, we'll address the other part too. As the DJ, I only got paid like $100 for those parties. Oh no. We were pulling in, what, three, three thousand high school kids? Yes. At the Arcata Community Center at $15 a head?

SPEAKER_00 1:28:59

I heard about this.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:00

Don't play with me. $100 and $100. Oh my God. Yeah, that was just back then. No, 100%. I know what it was. But we're not gonna we won't say names, nothing like that. So that's how I got that.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:13

But shout out to the book. DJ.

SPEAKER_08 1:29:25

No, he dead ass drop like this.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:27

My dude, no, my dude act like he was like this big time DJ, like operator guy here in small time humble. It was crazy, man. I sent this dude a video of us, like we was at Homeboy's house and was made like it's on YouTube now to this day. But yeah, shout out to homie, man. Even though you out there out there exploiting minus home. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. Not anymore. But yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:51

Alright, so listen, we're gonna take a musical break.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:54

No, we about to end this mug.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:55

No, you ain't I don't. I feel like we gotta go out with a bad 10 minutes. Oh, you gotta go back though.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:00

No, no, we gotta we can go. Okay, music break. Music break and I got some Bugie Rabbit. I do got some Bugie Rabbit. I do got some Buggie Rabbit. Yeah, and I got some. I got some little fun questions. Okay, alright, word, word, word. So here's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:13

Hey, hey, but you heard all that good stuff y'all just heard?

SPEAKER_10 1:30:16

For free?

SPEAKER_00 1:30:17

Oh, no more. For free? We're doing a Patreon. Y'all gonna have to pay for this. For free?

SPEAKER_09 1:30:22

Little bit of money at least.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:24

Man, no, little bit. Whatever you can got, dog on donate.

SPEAKER_10 1:30:28

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SPEAKER_00 1:30:55

Once you listen to it, you literally gonna want to invest. So like this, we have 50.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:00

We did this 50 episodes. This is it, this is an exclusive episode. You know what I mean? This is an exclusive episode.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:08

Alright, but we're gonna do a quick little quick little music break, man.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:12

We'll be right back.

SPEAKER_00 1:31:14

That's the last one? And I got we got people that listen to us.

SPEAKER_10 1:31:17

Yeah, we're gonna rock with y'all, man. We're gonna rock with y'all real quick, man. We out here.

SPEAKER_04 1:31:47

I got this comb on this boo body. I'm strong in this boot body. Two VX ain't no such thing as driving. Come in this boot body, bitch, I'm bad. I'm worse, I pass. The perk, don't fuck with me, cause right now I'm higher than cat. Bitch perhaps I be the sickest nigga you can ask. The nursing if you throw it in a bat, then I snatch. My purse, don't get my fast. I'm curse, you last, I'm first, I'm on your ass. Like dirt behind a catch. Get murk, I'm talking bitchy. Nigga, join my hit. This nigga, what's the matter? Check your matter on the shit. This nigga shoot the witness. Nigga, all court in the streets. Nigga, big this nigga old dick. Let's make a man I'm running with the fucker. That money must the fucker. You think we gon' do my thing my cleanest running in the summer. And we comin' for the promise. Then we have mama. You don't come up with my business of my cool bitch. Oh yeah, nigga. Wish I could have taste some other name. Cause of the free. Then you know how we play it. If it comes to be the boss, I like that out of this. I'm gonna go all these niggas. I don't take no shit. Take the brain off the whip, like it don't make no sense. All these bitches that we promise to morrow. Now we make it in it with me. Like no mama see a burrough. You roll them, kill a friend. The little two job of for room. And we rollin' bitches dick. Make them look like the tomorrow. Man, I'm too much for these niggas. They three much for these toes. The world is in my hands, and I keep my hands closed. They get my eyes, and I just get the bee, man. I know you gotta wanna palette. I just get my palette. You don't be in this stack, yo. Bring it on the back floor. Bring it on flowin'. Yeah, my baby, yo. Falk around like I'm 20 feet, I'll take a pull of these roads. In the porch, 9-11 like emergency codes, man. I defeat you and I'm cool, like money in the building, I'm putting up new roles. Nigga, taking misses off the sun set some new laws. My flow is like rubbin' two lows. Young mooler, we the new shit, new drones. I get off my dick, fuckin' with you. I put you to the bank, I'ma money fistin. We're see the beat, like bloody lista. Baby bow do me good, then my friend or sister. I mean a bitch, she never met my best friend or sister. I leave the pussy microscope like Windows Vista. Young too, she pop that coochie for the boo. Bulletin, you boys, mirror many on the side who I do it for.

unknown 1:34:43

Eagle Street right by the store. Cause we know why the city I was putting for when I go.

SPEAKER_04 1:34:48

Lost some real niggas. I knew from a long time ago. But having RL, I hope that can do the time of book. Take the nigga, the only nigga come get me a promise, yo. Steal long hair, don't care like I never hope. I'm the hardest shit go in your ass. It's a surgeon. I smash this verse and I swag. No settlers. Yeah, and the remix.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:38

Same old shit, shit, just a different day. I keep trying to get it, get it, each and every way, wait. Mama need a house, out, baby needs some shoes, shoes times are getting hard, hard. Guess what I'ma do? Hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hard, hard, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hard, hard, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle. Close mouth, don't get fed on that pillow. Show money to poppets. See the shit and I copy. Got by the house note in my pocket. I'm on south beach with that top off. Bad bitchin' her ass off. Stop them out of that catalog. She introduced the deadlock, y'all. And I think her name was Lisa. But maybe it was Sheila. My chef is sitting too high. I call that whisker leaf foot. And I'm all about the dumb frankless. Ain't talking a retail. Bitch, my lead too major. I'm hip hop, Derek Cheeto. And I'm still feeling my pocket tight. Big face in this knockin'. Yeah, this be that read busty a ride around with that rocket. Nigga, walk the back to my house, so we the best, we that logo. On the red for that leg go. All about the business at it all, nigga. Flo story taller, dot. We be getting all it. Okay, what's up? We be party, cause it's uh same mode of shit. Just a different day. I kept trying to get it, get it, each and every way, wait. Mama need a house, out, baby needs some shoes, does times are getting hard, hard. Guess what I'ma do?

unknown 1:37:09

Hustle.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:10

Hard, hard, huh, huh?

SPEAKER_03 1:37:12

You know I love this nigga. Hard, hard, hustle, hustle, hustle. I got hard, clothes, mouth failing that pull of five. 24's on my beamer. Never know when I slide up. 19 in my Nina. Red dot when I ride up. Honey deep in that KOD. Thing of diamonds, that's me, nigga. No, you bitches can't get my beat. Choppers only think free, nigga. Stop to me and I teach it. Somebody text this preacher. Straight drop in my beaker. Ace knocking my speaker. Last night I counted one meal. This morning, one fifty. Pussy niggas can't count me out. Don't make me count your feelings. Ah B12 for chairs. Jet blue for dead. Roll leggings embedded. Princess and biggest. Yeah. Same old brick, brick, but it's different. Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be paint, paint on my seventh trade.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:03

Same old shit, just a different day. How to try to get it each and narrow weight. Mama need a house. Baby needs some shoes. Time to get in the house. Guess what we gon' do? Posta, pasta, pasta, power, pasta, pasta, pasta, parta, pasta, passa, pasta, par. Close mouths, don't get fed on this bullet. Okay, no black card in my pocket. Riding round in a daddy. Pistol off in my boxes. Cause I ain't got time to be boxin'. Got a rib on she look trapping. If she fucked me right and she shoppin'. Young money, we poppin'. I eat these rappers, Anthony hoppin'. See that beat neck, that's polo. Grilled up like Ojo. Chuck Taylors with no socks. You nigga chicken, pollo. Nigga live on Sundays. King of dame is Monday. Swagger just dumb. Call it Kelly Bundy. Got a big house with a backyard. Fish tank with sharks in it. Real nigga, I'm authentic. I fuck the bitch that she started with it. Got a bad bitch who be bought in it. Couple homes that gang bang. I get on anybody track and hit that bitch with that Wayne train. Three my nigga DI, two to the beehive. Got a G6 and a G5. You push the niggas, you feel line. Don't stop the party. We be getting all it. Whoa, game and started. I'm with my pucus and Marlin. Cause this same old shit. Just a different day. I just try to get it. Each and every way. Wait, mama need a house. They want that car to fall. Bitches coming soon.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:39

Same old shit. Just a different day. I can try to get it. Each and every way. Wait. Mama need a house. Baby needs some shoes. Times are getting hard. Guess what I'ma do? Hard.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:02

Hard. So now we're gonna get fed on this boulevard.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:08

Alright, we're gonna have a little back. We back, we back, we back. Alright.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:15

Alright, we're coming in with some questions.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:17

We got a couple of budget riders. I know there's one burning topic that's been in your soul that you want to get, you know, talk about you.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:24

Okay, well, go ahead.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:24

Alright, we're gonna get this, we're gonna get this out the way though, right? So Drag, I got a question for you, man. I got a question for both of y'all, right? Would you either A have a one platinum album, i.e., Lorne Hill, or own the label that releases 20 gold albums. Give me one platinum.

SPEAKER_08 1:40:44

Give me one blind album.

SPEAKER_10 1:40:45

Over 20 gold? Give me the give me the give me the line. You're owning the label that has 20 gold ones. But you want one platinum.

SPEAKER_09 1:40:56

I want one platinum. Because those those 20 golds could be mid. Those 20 golds could be by popular demand. They could be what's hit right now, but that platinum, that shit is everlasting. You tell me that Lauren Hills Mitch education is still not right today.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:11

I was just about to say that because it's gonna be your 20 goals. Talk about the 20s. You can't, but you can name that one platinum.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:18

All the time. Every time. Gold records carry weight too, yo. They do. I'm not saying they can't. But then you got that one that stands out and lasts the test of time. Okay. It doesn't matter what year it is you put that shit on, it's still crazy. That's the platinum. That's why it's platinum.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:39

And that's why no matter what.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:40

I would rather have one of them than 20, 20 middle. Like, yes, I would love to be popular for 20 years and put out a gold album every year. But if you give me one platinum album that puts me in the fucking Hall of Fame, and you know what I mean? I'm never going nowhere. Lauren Hill's miseducation is not going anywhere. Thank you. You know what I'm saying? I can't name a gold album right now. Me neither. So pump it up.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:06

Go ahead. Joe Buddy? That's a gold record. He did that on the podcast. And it's been hot for 20 years. Not for nothing.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:18

You hear the word Joe Buddy, you think pump it up? I love you because let me tell you why. Because you know me, middle, military and me. Uh, I love pumping up. Right. You feel me? That made me get into Joe. But guess what? That one goal still, I'm gonna talk about the Miss Education Lauren Hill way more in detail.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:37

But you still know, you still know if I pump it up, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:40

So what else is on the album? Yeah, what songs are on the album? I can tell you every song on Miss Euphic.

SPEAKER_10 1:42:47

You can, because you're a fan. Let me ask, let me ask you, let me ask the question a different way. Does the average Joe Schmo know five songs?

SPEAKER_00 1:42:54

They might not know by title, but they know about lyrics.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:56

What out, first of all, what album did Pump Pump It Up come off of? Period. Joe Button. Just called Joe Button? It's called Joe Button. Would you listen to Joe Button, the album, without skipping a song? I never listened to that. Would you listen to Miss Education? Did you listen to Miss Education without skipping a song?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:18

He has.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:19

You have several times. I've skipped songs, yes.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:22

But you've listened to it also without skipping.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:25

Tell me you haven't listened to that shit without skipping. Oh, with Miss Education Lower Him? Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:43:30

Yes, I have. Oh, skipped?

SPEAKER_09 1:43:33

You've never listened to it one time without skipping. All the way through?

SPEAKER_10 1:43:36

I listened to it all the way through, yes. Of course. You've never listened to it one time. Because I was like, what? 789 when it came out. So I live. So yeah, there was nothing but to do. There was nothing to do but consume the whole album because it was like we didn't have the choice. We selectively. You didn't have nothing to do but consume pop up and up in that whole album either.

SPEAKER_00 1:43:54

You had the choice.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:55

But you didn't. Yeah. You chose to listen to Orn Hill through and through. That's why that shit's platinum. That shit was smacking though. That's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:04

It's smacking up. But you owned the label that has 20 gold, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:08

So? You think them 20 gold still really making no money? Yes. Because people not listening to Pump on Pump It Up no more. Who is you? White people?

SPEAKER_09 1:44:17

Us.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:18

No, you haven't seen it in no movie, no video.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:22

No, bro.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:23

It's not even a TikTok. And they still listen to Pump It Up to this day. It's not even a TikTok podcast. They still listen to Pump It Up.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:31

He doing podcasts, but everybody knows Pump It Up.

SPEAKER_00 1:44:35

Alright, tell him to do a re-release. He's gonna tell you shut up to my podcast.

SPEAKER_10 1:44:39

Of course, of course, yeah, of course that.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:42

I can tell you this though. I uh I bought tickets to a Lauren Hill concert last year. Did she show up? In typical Lauren Hill fashion. No, she canceled. She canceled. She canceled. I got my money back for the tickets technically. Yeah, you got your money back. But I can tell you this right now. At 38 years old, I'm not buying a ticket to a Joe Button concert. At all. I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:04

I'm showing up in the park right here. I will turn up to that song.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:09

I will turn up to that song, but I'm not going to a Joe Button concert. What if it was like $25? I don't care. You're not gonna go see Joe Button. That's the only song his I know.

SPEAKER_08 1:45:18

What else he gonna do? Why not? He's gonna talk to us the whole time?

SPEAKER_10 1:45:27

I'm paying $25 gonna be crazy. Nah, y'all can't nah. I would actually play $25. Nah, y'all ain't gonna play.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:38

Y'all ain't gonna play on jump jump up Joe B. Something that's gonna be.

SPEAKER_08 1:45:43

I know songs about him, but I bet you something something that's gonna make me look me be like.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:48

I can actually give you one more. Jersey C. There we go, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_10 1:45:52

What? Don't play my matchup.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:54

So you're gonna buy a ticket to hear this?

SPEAKER_10 1:45:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:45:58

Stop it. You're gonna buy the ticket to hear this. Oh, stop it! Come on! You know this one! Stop it! No, don't take off your headphones. Stop it! Hold up! Hold up! He's getting real hot right now. I'm trying to try to listen. I know, cut up a little bit.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:19

Cut up right now?

SPEAKER_09 1:46:23

100% right now. I've never heard this song.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:25

I've actually heard this one.

SPEAKER_09 1:46:26

Never heard this song.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:27

But you know why?

SPEAKER_09 1:46:28

Because Which is crazy, and you're talking to a DJ.

SPEAKER_00 1:46:31

Joe Button.

unknown 1:46:34

What?

SPEAKER_00 1:46:35

This one I know. No, this is not going. Yeah, this is on his album.

SPEAKER_08 1:46:38

This is on his album. You know why I know this song? You know why I know this song?

SPEAKER_01 1:46:41

Huh?

SPEAKER_08 1:46:41

Because you got served. Yeah. Joe Buddh's whole album was on that fucking movie. His whole album. Pump, pump, pop it up. Look at this. Niggas was crumping the crib walking out of that shit. We get crawl. I have to take you. Oh my reason for it.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:04

Cut this shit off in our ear, bro, for real. Y'all, y'all out here. This shit. No, I'm not trying to be disrespectful. I'm being honest. We're not being disrespectful.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:12

No, I didn't need to be a chance to do that.

SPEAKER_00 1:47:12

You know what? Joe Buddha would be like, shout out to y'all, because I don't even do music. You feel me? Would you pay $25 for that, though, brother? Yes, I would. $25.

SPEAKER_08 1:47:26

So he's going by himself.

SPEAKER_03 1:47:32

Man, hey, hey, man. Enough. Enough. Enough. Enough.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:40

You gonna say I buy myself in the crowd? That's crazy work, man. No way. Alright, man. You and 500 other raises. I got another one, man. I got it. Moving on, man. Moving on. You know you try it. That's crazy work, though.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:54

You know you tried it.

SPEAKER_10 1:47:56

Would you rather A lose every song you ever made or lose every memory from your 20s?

SPEAKER_00 1:48:02

Oh, come on, man. Oh shit. That's hard body work.

SPEAKER_10 1:48:07

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_09 1:48:08

I can be diabolical with it. Ah, I've lost my music before. Okay. I think I was like 23, 22. And I had a laptop crash that had all my it was the early accurate days. It was the early, early when I first started producing, and I was like really I had recorded songs on there that I was really fucking proud of. But I don't I can't even remember. Like I don't even remember what they found like. I don't remember what I said. Having experienced it that way, I would probably say I'd rather do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:48:57

Because I can re- I can remake the music.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:00

Even though I don't remember it. Like exactly, but I can remake a rendition. I can't remake memories from my 20s. You know what I mean? I'm only gonna be 20 through 29 once. I can remake that song. Yeah, and if that song if it sounded like it kinda did back in the day, I can you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:49:18

I can I can kinda get that memory for the five. I like that, I like that, I like that. I do that. Okay, would you think that's a reason. For a reason.

SPEAKER_10 1:49:32

No, I'd rather lose it. I'd rather keep the memory. Um would you rather know exactly when you become successful, or you know, I mean just never know but eventually make it. Would you never rather know when you'll make it, or never know when you'll make it, but you eventually will.

SPEAKER_09 1:49:55

I'd rather never know. Sounds crazy. Never know.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:00

I get why you say that because you don't get caught. I'd rather know.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:03

I'd rather know. Why? Let me ask why. Let me ask why.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:08

Because at least I know it's finally hitting. What I've been doing is so long. So finally something to hit. I know what to push. I know what to go at. I know what to do.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:15

And someone said, yo, you'll blow up in three years.

unknown 1:50:17

Whew.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:18

Alright, cool. I know in three years. I don't go out for that. No, no, no, no, no. That's different. That's that's a little bit different. That's success.

SPEAKER_09 1:50:24

You get success in three years. You made it right now, or like you're gradually, gradually building it. No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_00 1:50:33

I took it as you think it, right? Like your music blowing up, but you have no idea. Right? Or your music blowing up and you have an idea. You know what I mean? No, no, no.

SPEAKER_10 1:50:42

This is like, this is this is someone telling you, like, yo, hey, you're gonna make a song. And it will be somebody. No, no, no, not somebody, but just like fate, whatever, whatever we want to call it. Whatever you want to attach it to. But something or someone, the science told you. The universe said, hey, three years you're gonna blow up for sure. For real. No, no, no, it's the universe telling you.

SPEAKER_03 1:51:02

That's a different question.

SPEAKER_10 1:51:03

No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. In this scenario, come on, let's let's play, you know, let's play in this land of make-believe, all right? And this universe, this universe telling, yo, you got three years to get ready. Right? Rather than rather than, hey, you you're it's going to come, but I'm not gonna tell you when.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:20

Would I take that over?

SPEAKER_09 1:51:22

That's a little bit different question. In that scenario, I'd rather know.

unknown 1:51:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:26

I would rather know so I can be ready.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:31

No, because I you don't need to do anything. No, no, no, no. It's just to live by I I live by the philosophy of staying ready so I don't have to get ready. You know what I mean? And I would rather know like it's coming in three years, so I gotta get in stage shape. Like, I gotta get my conditioning up. I gotta I gotta get the work in. I would rather know than just be hit with it. Exactly.

SPEAKER_08 1:51:53

I'm on stage and I'm fucking gassed. Yes. That's what I'm saying. I get what you ask is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 1:51:59

That's a good question.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:00

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:00

I like that. It's a little bit different question when you ask it the second time.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:04

I like but that okay. So like three years no matter what.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:11

But no matter what.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:12

I just gotta be ready when that three years.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:14

You gotta be baby.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:15

Oh man, I'm gonna take that.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:16

Okay. You'd rather know. I'd rather know.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:20

Some people, I mean, it's it's curious.

SPEAKER_10 1:52:21

I'm curious because sometimes people think success does hit people out of nowhere though.

SPEAKER_09 1:52:26

No, and some people think some people thrive in like the the moment. You know what I mean? They would rather be right there and like, all right, fuck it. Let's go. You know what I mean? And there's certain situations like how I would rather be thrown into it and like, yeah, I'm doing this now, than then having the pressure of getting ready and then still falling short.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:48

Because now you got pressure and what if you don't show up correctly? What if you should have three?

SPEAKER_09 1:52:52

You you got ready for something you weren't even doing. Yeah, you got ready for the wrong thing, or you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00 1:52:58

Like they didn't tell you what it was gonna look like.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:00

You just don't know what the preparation's gonna look like. So some people might thrive in that situation where they're like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:05

That's me.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:06

I'm very similar too, because like I'd rather sometimes I'd rather be thrown into it. Like, this is what you're doing, and fucking go to it. Is he gonna do it over there? Than having to be prepared and then feeling like I fell short because I spent three years doing what I did and I'm still not ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:22

And then you know how life works, you make a plan and God laugh. I said three years and I'm getting it.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:28

But this is God telling you, yo, three years. This is God telling you, three years.

SPEAKER_00 1:53:34

What would you choose?

SPEAKER_10 1:53:37

I'm ready all the time. You know what I mean? I don't even get it. He lives by that same philosophy. Yeah, I'm ready, so you don't get ready any time, bro. You can give me a microphone right now. Give me a sage, I'm gonna kill it. What are we talking about? I ain't taking it three. I mean, it's gonna come to me, it's gonna come. I'm ready right now. Right now. Don't tell me three. I'm ready right now.

unknown 1:53:57

Exactly.

SPEAKER_10 1:53:57

That's how cool.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:02

Give it to me right now. What are we talking about? He's like, y'all talking about get ready. Get ready.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:07

First of all, there's one dog. Uh I didn't say get ready. I don't want this thing. I was trying to understand where he's coming from.

SPEAKER_10 1:54:14

That's what I was trying to understand too. Hey yo, real talk, real talk, real talk, y'all. So, with this being said, what is one part of yourself that you're trying to fix? Communication. Yeah, you trash at that.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:28

You are too. Excellent communicator, hold up. Hold up. Oh, trash.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:38

Trash.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:38

Nope. Yeah, it's trash.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:39

You're not even trash, you go large.

SPEAKER_08 1:54:43

You even late to communicate. What are we talking about? Trying to uh shit.

SPEAKER_00 1:54:50

For me, trying to figure out how to connect the pieces are like that's why I said emotional logic. My emotional logic. I feel like I do find a middle ground. And why a lot of people don't like that it matters, but like once I find a middle ground, I want to see where I stand. And like holding sturdy on that, even though I might see it. But what's good for me to make mean for that?

SPEAKER_09 1:55:28

Okay, no, no, no. You're not wrong for that either. Don't feel like that's uh that's the wrong thing to do, or like it's a hard decision to make. Right. And what have your friends been there more than your family? You know what I mean? I get that. You know what I mean? Like, y'all I consider family rather than friends, regardless. So I can say I understand the sense, you know what I mean? I understand that a hundred percent. Um and a lot of my family's white too, so they don't understand where I'm at or where I'm coming from, or what what what I'm feeling at them in the moment, you know what I mean? They try, they try, but it doesn't mean they succeed. And that's what I was getting to with the Miss Rachel thing with the allies. Like, I understand it and I appreciate the sentiment. That doesn't mean it's making a difference. Right. And I've had this conversation with my mom. I've been trying to say that. I love you. I love you to death, mother. I do. And I but at the end of the day, it doesn't always mean that we see the scene see things the same way. We understand. I had to under I had to explain black lives matter to my mother. She's blonde hair, blue eyes. You know what I mean? Don't get into it. She's a great mom and she's a mom to two black children in a white community. She's she's gotten her ass kicked for it. You know what I'm saying? But that doesn't mean she understands where you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:55

I guess sometimes my cat can come from because like I've always had that's why I don't have daddy issues. I got mommy issues doing anything. My daddy wasn't around, but I've always had strong men in my life. But like two of them strong men in my life were white men. Taught me how to change tire, taught me like was there for me, and like helped me understand my emotions a little bit better, and taught me to be logical with like, okay, but you smart enough to see it this way. So it's like it's not capping. It's just I do know that while we gotta protect ourselves at all times, cause for real, for real. But it's tough when the people who, you know, the the allies don't, you know, they there, but they really can't be there. So I'm learning that discernment. I don't have discernment though.

SPEAKER_09 1:57:38

No, it's just great. You're a great bridge.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:40

You all got discernment.

SPEAKER_09 1:57:41

You're a great bridge though, like, you know what I mean? Cause Swag, you the ally admiral. Dead ass. That's what I was about to get to. No, not even not even a bit, not even in a bad way, though.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:54

Like, like he makes it sound like I need to beat him up after this.

SPEAKER_08 1:57:57

No, he you might. I mean, you might need to do that by default. That nigga needs a gun.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:03

You can't say shit like this.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:04

No, because I was thinking, I was thinking something similar and he said it's it.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:09

But he the way he said it makes you sound like you on the white team.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:13

That's not happening on the topic.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:15

You're not on the white team.

SPEAKER_09 1:58:16

No. For me and him, for me and him having a female we can communicate with, that one understands female sentiment, but but maybe not all the way, but also understands what we're saying most of the time. It's way easier to communicate with you than it is to communicate with you get what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_08 1:58:40

That's what that's what I think he was getting, man. You thought you the ally. I just act the way he worked. Call me the admiral. He put you on the white team.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:53

But you know what though? I say that though, honestly.

SPEAKER_08 1:58:55

Oh, me.

SPEAKER_00 1:58:55

I say that though because they're all it is always immediate. But it's about knowing the right, like discernment, man. Like, I ain't got discernment, so I can't really talk about discernment too much, but I do have empty and I feel shit, uh, stuff, and I know that my people got me. And when I say something out loud, y'all be like, stay there because you're right. Don't go back. Right, right.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:16

You know what I mean? And I think that's that's important for all of us, I think, probably where we're at, even in life, and just whatever in general, is just holding each other accountable is something I think, you know, and this is this is real talk. I'm not I don't even care about the radio right now. No, no, no. I'm talking to Asad and Erica right now. We gotta hold each other accountable. For sure. You know what I'm saying? Like just with everyday shit. Hey, you good, bro? You pay you, you got your bills taken care of. You know what I mean? Even if it sounds dumb, if it sounds like you know what I mean, how you feeling today? You you good today, you got your kids, you know what I mean? Just and I'm not I'm not gonna be bugging you, trying to check on you, or you know what I mean? Pocket checking or whatever. I just want to make sure you're good. So, you know what I mean? Because I want the same sentiment. I want y'all to make sure I'm good. You know what I mean? Like I said, it's been lonely as fuck out of Reno, but I still have my family back here. And every time I come back here, it's the same thing. We get right back to where we were when we started.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:12

Shout out to him being the anchor.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:14

Absolutely. You know what I mean? He's always been holding it down here, and that's you know, that's what we always come to. Not anymore. Pay me to hold it down.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:23

What I appreciate about you is you are the anchor for those types of things as far as like things outside of my my norm. You know what I mean? Like you you you are the anchor for the things that matter. Like, I don't never want to take that from you. Like, while you might not be implicated, you are you are important, you need it.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:40

Hey man.

SPEAKER_00 2:00:41

No, and that's not for real, because a lot of people get mad at you and feel like that, but like they get once they get to know you though.

SPEAKER_10 2:00:47

Once they get to know you, they always become a lesser.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:49

And I got 50 episodes about who they're. This is what we're getting into early, though, is the and this is why I was asking you those questions. Not because I was attacking your character, but because I already know who the fuck you are. I just want them to know who you are. You know what I'm saying? That's why I was asking the the questions that I was asking about the man, we don't expect what he's doing.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:13

You don't understand. You already know. May know.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:16

But I wanted you to like like chemistry was saying, you always ask these questions, but you don't get answers. You got me here now, so you're not even gonna make him answer. You gotta answer to me, though.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:26

Would you guys like to know? Well, I'd like to know what I would fix about myself or what I am kind of fixing about myself. Absolutely nothing, because I'm perfect.

SPEAKER_08 2:01:34

Um And that's that's exactly what we've been doing with folks. That's it, right there.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:40

No, no, no, no. Real talk though. Real talk though. One thing that I am trying to fix.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:44

One thing though, because that was perfect, but we can't end that, man. We better.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:47

One thing that I am trying to fix, I am trying to uh work on my focus and my discipline a little bit more.

SPEAKER_00 2:01:54

No, I could be better. I haven't seen your outline.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:57

Yeah, I could be better. No, I need to I need to get back on the horse. Um, no, no. That's why I'm like, you know, taking a break from this, you know, take just read somewhere break. Adjusting and like, you know, because where I'm at in life right now, it definitely requires more focus and more discipline to get to where I need to be and where I should be. You know, when you talk about accountability and stuff like that, when you talk about elevating and doing better and progressing and stuff like that, uh that that requires focus and that requires discipline. 100%. So that's where I'm at. That's where I'm at right now. But you know, that's the one thing I don't need anything else to fix, because you know, I'm right in a lot of areas, but you know wrong. No. Man, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00 2:02:39

But that's what I'm saying. Like, I hate that we're taking the high ends, but you know, I guess it's what it is, man. Maybe it's on me though to keep more poor because I love this one. And I be having my own little thing, so I just gotta figure it out.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:49

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:50

But it's like whatever, though.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:51

No, it's not. No, it's not. Oh man, no, see, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna pop back out on camera and have us drop on YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:01

And that's what we're working on, yup. That's what we're working on. That's what the Patreon is with the girl.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:05

We go no no this is the last audio journey. That's a real next part of the journey. It's gonna be visuals. Y'all gonna get the visuals, right? Y'all gonna get the visuals. We're gonna become a podcast to a talk show. Really? Yeah, Bill B here. Exactly. Y'all want the visuals, we'll get y'all the visuals.

SPEAKER_09 2:03:23

There should be a camera in here right now. Should be. And it should have been a camera in here. 52 episodes. We know that, but you know, that's what we're doing.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:31

This is a podcast.

SPEAKER_09 2:03:33

I'm just saying. It's an audio journey. You have 52 episodes of opportunity to do that. I'm gonna tell you why though. Hold on. I got you, bro. Hold up, come out. No, no, no. Like a deck of cards.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:42

No, no, no, don't you? They got 52 chances to blow this thing up.

SPEAKER_09 2:03:46

I'm saying, but don't put it on.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:47

I'm gonna be 100%. No, no, no. That's what they do.

SPEAKER_10 2:03:50

I'm a man of the people. The people who need to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:54

On a Tuesday. You feel me? It ain't that easy to get someone set up camera all day. You know, but so that's why we appreciate 94.7 humble hot air for giving us the opportunity. Absolutely. And and like you say, you know, the radio joint, you know, we ain't gonna be here no more, but we just gotta figure out what the next level looks like because we folks deserve that because we like that. And that's the way that's we do need a cameraman. You know what I mean? We and we can make it, even if we don't get a cameraman, we can get a setup.

SPEAKER_09 2:04:23

All right. And low key folks, that's why they got me here. Because it's not. It's just not stopping. It's just evolving. That's it. I'm here to figure out the honesty. Oh, I don't know. He is the one.

SPEAKER_10 2:04:37

All right, all right, all right, all right, enough of this shenanigans.

SPEAKER_00 2:04:40

So we can be live from the kitchen.

SPEAKER_10 2:04:42

Last question for the pod, man. Here's something I've been thinking about, man. Say this podcast never returned and make believe land. What is one conversation from this show that you hope stays with people?

SPEAKER_00 2:04:53

You can't answer me that. I don't even listen to my own podcast, but I'll tell you what, every I listen, you know what? You know why can people come to me and talk to me about it? Okay, that's my own inner thing.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:02

And come talk to me, by the way.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:04

You know what? Wait, though, I can answer that question without you about me. I just want the people to go since it's gonna be the last one for a while. Go back and listen to it, like you said. Like the things that you took away from both of us, if you if you feel like you need a reminder, guess what? You got it, it's recorded, it's Spotify. Anything you listen to, your your your podcast and music on, we there. You feel me? And telephone, telephone. You feel me? That's why I tell you.

SPEAKER_10 2:05:29

Track, any last thoughts you want to share with our audience?

SPEAKER_09 2:05:32

I mean, if I want you to remember anything from the podcast, even though I haven't been here a long time, is don't forget what the fuck you heard here. And if you forgot, you better like like Swag just said, you probably should go back and listen.

SPEAKER_00 2:05:47

Because you can't.

SPEAKER_09 2:05:47

Because if we touched on something, it's probably relevant. And if it's relevant, we probably touched on something. So please go back and listen. Go back and listen. Please, please, please go back and listen and promote the shit. Share the shit. Like like Swag was saying, friend to a friend. It does a whole lot. Y'all might not think so. But just share the shit one time. Just share the shit one time.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:13

That's all we need. What's the places we in? We we the illness out uh Iowa? Yes, we are. Uh Chicago. Worldwide at this point. We all the place.

SPEAKER_09 2:06:21

We our streams are crazy. I'm a man, Uganda, East European, Japan. Yes, our streams are international. Worldwide.

SPEAKER_00 2:06:31

Like, we got some.

SPEAKER_10 2:06:33

We're good? Okay. What you got to say? We are out. And thank you for joining us on this episode of the MAC podcast. I hope you enjoy listening as much as we enjoy talking to y'all. Please keep us in your thoughts and you in prayers, and I guarantee that you are in ours. And a word to the wise: don't let the wins be the relief and the losses be the tragedy. What is simple and what is easy are rarely the same. A wise man could be the fool, but a fool could never be the wise man because what? I walk with God and y'all are carried by God, huh? And last but not least, no amount of money in the world has ever bought you a second of time, so please spend yours wisely. And for the last time for a while, we are out there. And lastly but not least, follow me, Chemistry with a K.

SPEAKER_00 2:07:20

E. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 2:07:22

Follow at T-R double A C and follow T-H-A-M-A-K-P-O-D-C-A-S-T, man. It's been an honor and a privilege for giving you guys this platform. You guys have 50 episodes of this gold. And yeah, man, you know what I'm saying? Just pull up, pop up, man. Tap in with your boy. We here. Rude Music Entertainment. We got music coming out. 2027's gonna blow up. Love, peace, chicken grease. Y'all look out. 2027, we're gonna go up. Hey, hey, hey, hey, we dropping shit in 2027, dog.

SPEAKER_09 2:07:53

It's not even a question. I don't even know. Dropping shit in 2027, though. You tell me you gotta come to Reno and record shit. That's it.

SPEAKER_10 2:07:59

Yeah, I'm coming. Pause, but you know, come on. Love peace, chicken grease. Welcome to y'all. All right, man. We out of here. Peace.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:07

This is culturally inappropriate.

SPEAKER_07 2:08:10

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SPEAKER_02 2:09:31

NALA Vaca. Hand on my fishin' village visiting with papa. Which I find all of you in Asta. Simply just Ferrari window toppers. The one that I just thought it looked like it was built by NASA. Over half a mil we call for Kacha. Reaching for a kata. Never leaving home without my face, like I'm a hot mother. From the driver Judah, I'm a basta. Never turn the other cheek. Yo, I got the acta. Persona nungata. Mikata Tukata. Drugs kill my team spirit. Welcome to Nirvana. You is Gucci La La. I was Ali Bye bye. Resting house of Gucci made from selling lady Gaga. Hakuna matata. Island wearin' tie-dye, umbrella in my roles. Mat the one ass in this my tie. Listen, you are not I cross these die eyes. How done disappeared and reappeared without a voila.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:25

Ballerinas doing pirouettes inside of my snow globe. Shopping's freezing so ho. You had to see it. Strippers, shaking ass, and watchin' the dough blow. Ace trumpets and rolls mode.