{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":0.0,"endTime":16.699,"body":"Welcome to our podcast. First of all, some news. You may be aware that Duncan and myself"},{"startTime":16.699,"endTime":21.78,"body":"Jim have a little business called Swimscape, which is really focused on getting people"},{"startTime":21.78,"endTime":26.859,"body":"to get to their swimming goals and also enjoy themselves. And we also had the podcast."},{"startTime":26.859,"endTime":32.039,"body":"So we decided to bring the names together. And now the podcast is going to also be called"},{"startTime":32.039,"endTime":37.619,"body":"Swimscape. Maybe the previous name came from somebody who's trying to be a little bit"},{"startTime":37.619,"endTime":43.479,"body":"too much of a clever dick. Anyway, we thought we needed to do this because we were getting"},{"startTime":43.479,"endTime":48.159,"body":"into arguments as neither risk could work out which one was the clever one and which one"},{"startTime":48.159,"endTime":55.56,"body":"was the other one. So it's now Swimscape. So for our first episode of Swimscape, the podcast"},{"startTime":55.56,"endTime":60.679,"body":"we're talking to you and you and a swimmer who now lives in Hamilton, although he started"},{"startTime":60.679,"endTime":66.519,"body":"off in Auckland. He was a competitive swimmer as his youth and got all the way up to the"},{"startTime":66.519,"endTime":72.519,"body":"nationals. And he's also won the rangatoto swim. At the moment, he's kind of focused on"},{"startTime":72.519,"endTime":78.28,"body":"running the five bridges swim down in Hamilton as well as raising his young family. So"},{"startTime":78.28,"endTime":84.079,"body":"lean back, enjoy the story about the five bridges swim and a little bit about you and"},{"startTime":84.079,"endTime":88.879,"body":"let's get into it. In this podcast, we're talking to you and hi, yeah."},{"startTime":88.879,"endTime":94.359,"body":"Good day, Jim. Cool. Right. You've listened to a few podcasts. You know how we start. We're"},{"startTime":94.359,"endTime":98.76,"body":"interested in your swim story. So do you want to tell us a little bit about how you got"},{"startTime":98.76,"endTime":104.159,"body":"into it and why? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ever since you called upon me, I've been thinking"},{"startTime":104.159,"endTime":111.28,"body":"back and my swimming started much as any kid growing up in New Zealand did. So I've got"},{"startTime":111.28,"endTime":117.12,"body":"thrown in the pool prior to primary school and my story didn't start that great. So my"},{"startTime":117.12,"endTime":121.439,"body":"goggles were filled with tears every single time I was thrown in the pool and I absolutely"},{"startTime":121.439,"endTime":127.84,"body":"hated it. But that's a common A. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a scary thing"},{"startTime":127.84,"endTime":131.52,"body":"getting thrown in the water, but it's a skill that we all need to have, especially in New"},{"startTime":131.52,"endTime":138.0,"body":"Zealand being close to the coast. And then you carried on through there last year of primary"},{"startTime":138.08,"endTime":143.439,"body":"school. You had your swimming sports and that's where I found a love for it because I won"},{"startTime":143.439,"endTime":151.84,"body":"every single race. It's got swimming sports and I was on a super popular kid, but I had one"},{"startTime":151.84,"endTime":156.719,"body":"blue first place ribbons and the popular kid that was the sports sports guy had all the second"},{"startTime":156.719,"endTime":163.68,"body":"place ribbons and I thought, I like this. So incident to, you know, intermediate and obviously"},{"startTime":163.68,"endTime":170.0,"body":"my parents were able to tell up there, got into a swimming club. So I joined the local club"},{"startTime":170.0,"endTime":177.199,"body":"as only hunger swimming club. And yeah, went from there, started training for five times a week"},{"startTime":177.199,"endTime":186.08,"body":"and nippin' up the heels of the older guys, went right through high school. Yeah, I've had some"},{"startTime":186.8,"endTime":195.52,"body":"some major success there. I sort of got to the age of 18, 19 and you sort of discovered the"},{"startTime":195.52,"endTime":202.639,"body":"real world and training 20 hours a week in the pool, didn't appear as much as I once did."},{"startTime":203.52,"endTime":208.96,"body":"You know, odor of chlorine was my perfunnel through high school. Yeah. Had the frizzy here and"},{"startTime":208.96,"endTime":214.8,"body":"and everything. So yeah, it sort of felt by the way sort of ventually, but you know mixed in there"},{"startTime":214.8,"endTime":223.52,"body":"was triathlon. I was a bit weak-bick skewer kids kid as well. So yeah. Yeah, is that still going?"},{"startTime":223.52,"endTime":229.28,"body":"Start. Yeah, it is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. When we were with T3, obviously we were 10 to the mother and"},{"startTime":230.0,"endTime":236.08,"body":"yeah, yeah, nuts. Okay. Good of an institution, the weak mix. So that introduced me to the cycling"},{"startTime":236.08,"endTime":243.28,"body":"and running and sort of my swimming career, I got as far as New Zealand opens. I was sort of more"},{"startTime":243.28,"endTime":251.199,"body":"of a sprinter. You know, a hundred meters, 50 meters was sort of more my my speed, but I was still"},{"startTime":251.199,"endTime":259.759,"body":"doing five K ten times a week in the pool. So yeah, sort of, I guess I got with a little button"},{"startTime":259.759,"endTime":269.439,"body":"and fell away from it, but with with my swim club, they supported the Auckland Masters who ran"},{"startTime":269.519,"endTime":276.48,"body":"the Rangitoto Swam. Yeah. Yeah. Auckland Central Masters. That had four swimmers each year."},{"startTime":276.48,"endTime":282.079,"body":"Yeah, so we did all the time for it and everything. So, okay. So I got into open water swimming"},{"startTime":282.079,"endTime":289.839,"body":"through them as well. Clam to fame, I have won the Rangitoto Swam. No waste. I don't know that. Wow."},{"startTime":289.839,"endTime":294.079,"body":"I will say it was probably one year that a few names didn't show up. Hey, that doesn't matter,"},{"startTime":294.319,"endTime":299.279,"body":"we're in at that point. I don't know. No, I'm not wet too, so you'll be happy to hear."},{"startTime":299.279,"endTime":306.319,"body":"Yes. Hey, that's impressive, dude. Yeah, man. Yeah. So, and I was in the era with you guys"},{"startTime":306.319,"endTime":310.959,"body":"one of the name Lauren Boyle. Yes. Yes. So I was of same age as her. We sort of swam"},{"startTime":311.6,"endTime":318.959,"body":"little books each other back in the day. And then, yeah, sort of got into triathlon a bit more"},{"startTime":318.959,"endTime":325.759,"body":"after my swimming career. Fell off a bit and then actually became a cycle career and down to"},{"startTime":325.759,"endTime":330.639,"body":"an Auckland. So I got really fit again. When, hey, I could probably do triathlons a bit off the"},{"startTime":330.639,"endTime":336.48,"body":"back of us, got back into it, got swimming with another name you know Mark Bone. Yes."},{"startTime":337.759,"endTime":342.72,"body":"Maybe a great guy to talk to. Yes. And yes, I was I was rubbing shoulders with a camera brown"},{"startTime":342.879,"endTime":350.24,"body":"torrents over zoning and Rebecca Clark and all those top triathletes. So I gave them a run for"},{"startTime":350.24,"endTime":357.6,"body":"the money of the pool. But, yeah, obviously cycling I kept up the run, teaching a summer to run"},{"startTime":357.6,"endTime":364.0,"body":"didn't work out so well. Again, I went quite hard with triathlons, but stress righteous haven't."},{"startTime":365.04,"endTime":369.92,"body":"Yeah. Again, I think I have slightly logged into the end. I haven't been a swimmer for"},{"startTime":370.399,"endTime":376.399,"body":"my foot. So yeah, the impact with the brand didn't see either with it. Yeah. Yeah."},{"startTime":376.399,"endTime":382.639,"body":"What was the discipline that you enjoyed the most? Probably the cycling really. Yeah, obviously"},{"startTime":382.639,"endTime":389.68,"body":"swimming. Yeah, but the thrill of hurtling down a hill on a bike was definitely up there. I'd"},{"startTime":389.68,"endTime":395.199,"body":"always lead out of the swim. At least I wasn't having a great one, but yeah, be out and then"},{"startTime":395.199,"endTime":401.92,"body":"the cyclone hang on and I go backwards. I need to do as my run coach. Yeah, 20 kilograms"},{"startTime":401.92,"endTime":409.92,"body":"ago, man. Speaking of weight, I mean, when I was swimming, you know, 18, 17, 18, I couldn't get"},{"startTime":409.92,"endTime":417.759,"body":"over swimming kgs. Yeah. But it was nothing, but you know, lean muscle. Yeah. You're not too different"},{"startTime":417.839,"endTime":428.72,"body":"than the brand. Five and tens. Yeah. Well, do you know? I'm 38 now. Bullets, do you? 38 now. Bullets. Daniel"},{"startTime":428.72,"endTime":435.36,"body":"from 40, eh? Yeah. Yeah. I missed years of your life when you're 50 other than when you're injured,"},{"startTime":435.36,"endTime":445.439,"body":"right? Yeah. Hey. So when you were at school, you mentioned those 20 hours a week. I mean,"},{"startTime":445.439,"endTime":451.68,"body":"roughly speaking in my head, that converts to like 50 or 60 kilometers a week. Yeah, generally,"},{"startTime":451.68,"endTime":458.0,"body":"a session would be four to six K. Yeah. They're going to be seven K. Oh, that's, that's massive."},{"startTime":458.0,"endTime":462.16,"body":"For a sprinter, that's, yeah, I mean, amazing. I think I coached that was sort of like, I had"},{"startTime":462.16,"endTime":468.0,"body":"talent in the 1500 meter tip. Yeah. And I was doing a pool of swimming. So there wasn't really"},{"startTime":468.0,"endTime":474.079,"body":"something I'd really focused on. I mean, I had a breakthrough swim by sprinting where"},{"startTime":474.639,"endTime":479.92,"body":"I was a Wellington champs one year and, you know, I did the 100 meter free. It wasn't the greatest."},{"startTime":479.92,"endTime":484.72,"body":"It was more of a backstroker, but so I had this 100 free race and it was just a bit of a help, Mary,"},{"startTime":484.72,"endTime":489.36,"body":"just go up there, hammer it. I made the final. Awesome. So I thought, I'm in the final, one of the"},{"startTime":489.36,"endTime":494.319,"body":"outside lanes, because you know, lane 4 is your fastest and you're cascaded out. And it's quite a"},{"startTime":494.319,"endTime":499.6,"body":"cool story where I outcomplete outside chance. I think my time, I think I just scratched the"},{"startTime":499.6,"endTime":505.199,"body":"minute, about 58 seconds into the final. Yeah. Which, to a, to a competitive summer's not fast."},{"startTime":506.079,"endTime":510.72,"body":"And I had this swim where I just went, oh, I got nothing to lose, put my head down and just"},{"startTime":510.72,"endTime":514.559,"body":"redline it right from the go. And this is a Wellington pool with a big drop-off. Yes."},{"startTime":514.559,"endTime":520.32,"body":"See, swimming swimming and going into the diving area. Yeah. And hit the wall, turned around"},{"startTime":520.32,"endTime":526.08,"body":"halfway back. So 75 meter mark completely hit the wall. Just my arms felt like they fell off my"},{"startTime":526.08,"endTime":533.279,"body":"body, but I was two body legs ahead of everyone else. Yes. So my mum does, up there screaming,"},{"startTime":533.279,"endTime":540.799,"body":"like, her just screaming, ongoing. Tying up with the general end up. Touched the wall, did a 54,"},{"startTime":540.799,"endTime":546.0,"body":"so I dropped a huge amount of time. Or a second TV. And got a second equal in the, I think it was"},{"startTime":546.0,"endTime":552.559,"body":"18 and under age groups. So that's my one, so Auckland, Auckland champs I got medals all the time,"},{"startTime":552.559,"endTime":559.279,"body":"but nationally I've got one middle to my name and it was a silver and standing on the podium"},{"startTime":559.279,"endTime":564.639,"body":"the guys were all the you know I'm six foot one and a bit and these guys are sort of six foot four"},{"startTime":564.639,"endTime":570.08,"body":"and up so yeah that was a highlight of my sewing career really you know went and gave"},{"startTime":570.08,"endTime":575.36,"body":"mum the middle and you know obviously being a swimmer you guys chatted to how it's complete"},{"startTime":575.36,"endTime":583.36,"body":"you know your parents are such a huge part of that you know I'm a new kind of new parent"},{"startTime":583.36,"endTime":588.96,"body":"so I can see the sacrifices I'm going to make with sports and stuff like that but yeah yeah how"},{"startTime":588.96,"endTime":593.96,"body":"many kids have you got yet? So we've got three now yeah young guest is two months so grand"},{"startTime":593.96,"endTime":601.44,"body":"hog day a little bit again August is four and the middle one's two so Arthur who's four Billy is"},{"startTime":601.44,"endTime":607.279,"body":"out girl she's two that's cool hopefully is Oakley is two months don't tell me that's Oakley"},{"startTime":607.279,"endTime":615.279,"body":"inspired from your cycling career we wanted something different and that's very cool"},{"startTime":615.279,"endTime":619.279,"body":"we're settled on that and you could get a could get a sponsor in the future isn't it?"},{"startTime":619.36,"endTime":622.08,"body":"Oh easy man I'm sure Ray Boehner it's my time yeah"},{"startTime":626.24,"endTime":635.039,"body":"that's awesome man yeah so you with obviously the circles that you moved in your partner"},{"startTime":635.759,"endTime":644.0,"body":"your wife is is or was a triathlete? Was it also was this definitely unfinished business"},{"startTime":644.32,"endTime":651.919,"body":"so my wife a little bit of backstory there was working at some south of my career career I"},{"startTime":651.919,"endTime":657.679,"body":"broke my face and couldn't be on the bike and I'd known Chris who rents some T3 at the time"},{"startTime":657.679,"endTime":663.519,"body":"for many years and then also and they were advertising for a salesperson so I started working"},{"startTime":663.519,"endTime":670.96,"body":"at some T3 as a salesman opportunity oh I should cut back I started dating some of my wife's"},{"startTime":670.96,"endTime":675.44,"body":"McKayla and Neilson started dating issues in Cambridge an elect triathlete at the time"},{"startTime":676.559,"endTime":682.08,"body":"started dating her and the option came to come and manage the Hamilton Brunch of some T3 so"},{"startTime":682.879,"endTime":686.96,"body":"jumped of that because I want to be closer to her and obviously a career opportunity there"},{"startTime":688.0,"endTime":694.799,"body":"rest of the history there we we checked up and three kids later three kids later but yeah so she was"},{"startTime":695.519,"endTime":701.759,"body":"under 19 world champion when she was 17 yeah that's pretty impressive weapon runner"},{"startTime":703.2,"endTime":706.96,"body":"she's probably the opposite to me her swims the weakest she's great on the bike and the run"},{"startTime":706.96,"endTime":712.0,"body":"she's just lightning she'll catch you everyone she went through a bit of a tough time with"},{"startTime":712.0,"endTime":718.08,"body":"Trion Z as I don't know yes cycling New Zealand they sort of had some trouble some times with"},{"startTime":718.08,"endTime":723.6,"body":"yes I'd been but yeah we used to train out of the St Peter's club in in Cambridge"},{"startTime":724.799,"endTime":730.0,"body":"so yeah she sort of fell away from it you know try to make a comeback it's a 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more kids swimming open water"},{"startTime":906.159,"endTime":910.96,"body":"yeah it's a tricky one I because because yeah I mean a pool swimming yes you're in a black line"},{"startTime":911.519,"endTime":916.32,"body":"so yeah I mean the open water swimming and we're very lucky to have what we've got here in"},{"startTime":916.32,"endTime":922.879,"body":"Zealand there's these beaches and rivers and lakes that you can swim in other countries aren't so lucky"},{"startTime":922.879,"endTime":930.96,"body":"so yeah I guess it's and with these open water swans the young contingency might not quite"},{"startTime":931.6,"endTime":936.639,"body":"be invited you know so I guess you could spread the spread a little bit more there you know the"},{"startTime":936.639,"endTime":944.48,"body":"keyboard kids obviously the kids in total bit yeah do you think we need more shorter swans you know"},{"startTime":944.48,"endTime":949.519,"body":"so you know people don't feel like they've got to go and 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it was two bucks to go jump the pool now it's"},{"startTime":995.2,"endTime":1000.159,"body":"eight ten dollars to do one session so you know I've got a local pool that I'd love to get into"},{"startTime":1000.159,"endTime":1005.039,"body":"and I have to buy a concession card that's quite a lot to do and I understand because the pools"},{"startTime":1005.039,"endTime":1012.24,"body":"are cheap to maintain though so it is a tricky one it is tricky and if you want to be I don't"},{"startTime":1012.24,"endTime":1017.039,"body":"need even competitive but seriously competent at open water swimming you still need the pool right"},{"startTime":1017.039,"endTime":1020.48,"body":"absolutely yeah it's for you then basics you don't want to go get in the chop and"},{"startTime":1021.039,"endTime":1032.96,"body":"let me know then how to get your own over yeah so you have landed up we we chatted a couple"},{"startTime":1032.96,"endTime":1038.64,"body":"of weeks ago a couple of months ago we we start 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that and um and obviously it was possibly going to fall by the way"},{"startTime":1178.72,"endTime":1185.279,"body":"so a little bit too um I was just saying before Duncan this is this next year's the 87th year"},{"startTime":1185.279,"endTime":1190.799,"body":"it's been running so it's amazing our huge history um you know it's not all well documented but"},{"startTime":1190.799,"endTime":1198.16,"body":"it started when we were two the game yeah um the first year so um yeah I put my hand up um"},{"startTime":1198.16,"endTime":1204.799,"body":"ghost of Dalin offer her final swim and and um I'm ashamed to say I've actually only swam it once"},{"startTime":1205.44,"endTime":1211.279,"body":"I swam the room a plenty but I've only done the event but did the event and um breakfast"},{"startTime":1212.16,"endTime":1217.759,"body":"rip my arms off and one at that yeah and I because I was still quite quite fit at that time so"},{"startTime":1217.759,"endTime":1222.079,"body":"I kept up with him and you know rivers something's quite cool because yeah you might be I'm"},{"startTime":1222.079,"endTime":1227.599,"body":"shoulder to shoulder and then they'll go flying off as they call it a bit more um say he beat me"},{"startTime":1227.599,"endTime":1234.4,"body":"and uh he's his name's on that trophy quite a few times um and yeah the next year I took it on"},{"startTime":1234.4,"endTime":1239.92,"body":"and with the help of some team three at the time um we promoted a bit more and the first year"},{"startTime":1239.92,"endTime":1247.759,"body":"we ran it we had a hundred and ninety one turn up that's a good turn up yeah it was awesome um"},{"startTime":1247.759,"endTime":1253.92,"body":"I've tried to keep it pretty grass roots so um you know it has had a small price increase just"},{"startTime":1253.92,"endTime":1258.4,"body":"because we introduced um professional timekeeping team yeah it's just something to take off my"},{"startTime":1258.4,"endTime":1266.319,"body":"plates I 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cleverer so I was hoping to somebody the other day and they were"},{"startTime":3015.039,"endTime":3020.559,"body":"like hey you know because immigration has been a mission right yeah and they're like would you"},{"startTime":3020.559,"endTime":3024.88,"body":"immigrate again like would you go to Australia that's where all the money is and all and I'm like"},{"startTime":3024.88,"endTime":3032.559,"body":"did if I had to move again it would 100% be somewhere smaller with less people further away from"},{"startTime":3032.559,"endTime":3037.199,"body":"everything you know what I mean so I'm I'm with you on that one yeah yeah I reckon if I immigrate"},{"startTime":3037.199,"endTime":3042.8,"body":"to the game if you'd be like Fiji or something like that you know somewhere tropical yeah yeah"},{"startTime":3043.76,"endTime":3048.0,"body":"well you definitely don't need a witsuit for this one different wow you need some shock shields man"},{"startTime":3050.159,"endTime":3056.239,"body":"right no that's that's all good thanks so much for coming in and um telling us your story really"},{"startTime":3056.239,"endTime":3061.44,"body":"really appreciate it and uh it's been a little while since I did your swim I think I definitely"},{"startTime":3061.44,"endTime":3066.4,"body":"need to to get back because it's great for me it's just an excuse to go and visit the fox as well"},{"startTime":3066.4,"endTime":3071.36,"body":"so oh yeah yeah no thank you so much guys for having me it's been a been a real honour in"},{"startTime":3071.36,"endTime":3076.639,"body":"the pleasure and yeah come and do the song guys your names will be on the list yeah we'll be done"},{"startTime":3076.639,"endTime":3082.719,"body":"in March and we'll be done again in April for the time first so just make sure that water is clean"},{"startTime":3082.719,"endTime":3088.88,"body":"and put up thanks to it it's good to see you again and uh we'll we'll see you in Hamilton"},{"startTime":3088.88,"endTime":3092.639,"body":"yeah and in my pleasure thank you so much for me appreciate cool cool bananas"},{"startTime":3092.639,"endTime":3098.079,"body":"hi my name is Caitlyn I'm Riley I'm the youngest person who have completed the Ocean 7 Challenge"},{"startTime":3098.159,"endTime":3103.599,"body":"earthless really cool podcast has helped you learn something new maybe it's introduced you to new"},{"startTime":3103.599,"endTime":3109.599,"body":"swimmers made you smile um then please take the opportunity to subscribe to Duncan and Jim's"},{"startTime":3109.599,"endTime":3114.719,"body":"channel I'm sure they would absolutely appreciate all your support cheers thanks Caitlyn"},{"startTime":3114.719,"endTime":3120.719,"body":"well as always you can give us feedback on our Instagram account at cleverdix or send us an email"},{"startTime":3120.719,"endTime":3131.84,"body":"cleverdixinz at gmail.com we'd really appreciate hearing from you and 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