121. Spiritual Formation: Practicing Pilgrim Feast

In this episode of Restoried, Brian and Anne revisit the spiritual formation practice of Pilgrim Feast, a rhythm inspired by the biblical feasts where God’s people gathered to remember His faithfulness and celebrate together. Pilgrim Feast invites families to reframe vacations and special time away as gifts from God; moments to worship, reconnect, and intentionally celebrate His goodness. 

Anne shares how her family prayerfully planned a focused trip with their four older children after a long fostering season, choosing unplugged time in the mountains to reconnect and reflect on God’s faithfulness. Brian shares about his family’s trip to Missouri and how shifting their mindset, seeing vacation as God’s generosity rather than something earned, changed the experience. 

They acknowledge the realities of parenting, tight budgets, and blended family dynamics, encouraging listeners to lower expectations of perfection and focus on connection. Pilgrim Feast does not have to be expensive or elaborate. It can be a staycation, a weekend getaway, or even a single intentional day marked by rest, favorite foods, tech boundaries, and meaningful conversation. 

The challenge is simple: dream about it, pray about it, put it on the calendar, and trust God to restore your family through celebration. 

Episode Highlights:  

• Celebrate God’s faithfulness. 
• Receive rest as a gift. 
• Choose connection over perfection. 
• Intentional > expensive. 
• Pray, plan, calendar it. 

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:26

Hope Bridge is on a gospel-led mission to transform the foster care landscape in Ohio. We're here to raise awareness and empower churches and communities to step into action by supporting vulnerable children and families in their local communities. In this podcast, we'll be shining a light on stories of hope, redemption, and transformation and sharing practical ways that you can step in and get involved. Welcome to Restoried, a podcast by Hope Bridge.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

All right, welcome back, guys, to Restoried, a podcast by Hope Bridge. I'm really happy to have you guys here. I'm Brian, Director of Discipleship, and I'm joined by Ann. Ann, say hi to all the listeners. Yeah, good to have you with us today. And we're back to one of our spiritual formation uh experiences and practices, and just talking through that uh with you guys. So um we'll just jump right into it. So, a couple things, um, a reminder that spiritual formation is walking in the ways of Jesus, seeking him to become more like him for the sake of others. And so these are things that we've implemented at work. Uh, we do a new practice each month to focus us towards Jesus, to become more like him, to be more intentional in our lives, um, for the sake, again, of ourselves, our heart, our walk with Jesus in to bless and glorify him and to care for others. Um, because it helps us be able to love more fully, more completely. Um, just all those things. Part of being a disciple of Christ. And we at Hope Bridge firmly believe that um that's a big thing of being able to navigate this difficult space that we're in, many of us, our families are in, um, that we need to be and and seek Jesus and all of this in order to do it well. And so that's the hope in these podcasts is to share that with you and and some things that you can put into your life that can hopefully help you to navigate uh some of these hard times or to be just to be seeking the Lord and to grow more like him for the sake of your family and for those around you. So yeah, so this month um we did Pilgrim Feast. And so this is on repeat. This is our second time through um the spiritual formation experiences, and instead of doing something new, we wanted to like do the same thing.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Um 2.0.

SPEAKER_03 2:58

2.0, new and improved. Um, I don't know about that, but it's just kind of like learning from what we did the first time, so now it's not new. Now we have a little more experience under our belt, and so how do we apply it to where we're at now? Um, but I also think Pilgrim Feast is cool because it's one that is a little bit different than the other ones. The other ones we practice that month, and pilgrim feast is one that's like more future, like planning that year. So I should probably explain what Pilgrim Feast is to you guys, right?

SPEAKER_01 3:31

It's not like Thanksgiving dinner.

SPEAKER_03 3:32

Yeah. What is Pilgrim Feast? Do we wear these you know goofy hats and the shoes and fine turkeys? No. So basically throughout scripture, there is different feasts that God had set up with uh the Israelites, the Jews of the um, to focus on him to remember what he had done for them. And so there's three different weeks of feasts in the Bible, and that many of the families would do. They'd maybe travel for one of them a year or something like that. But it was a really special time of just a community thing going together, going to this place um to Jerusalem and worshiping together and remembering and celebrating what God had done. Um, and a couple things that I just love in this picture is one, that it's a celebration, and that we have a God that loves to celebrate and loves to be um a good gift giver, and that he has these gifts for us. Um the other thing is that it's remembering what he's done for us, like looking back, remembering what he'd done for us for our past, like for grandparents, whatever, all the way back. Um, but rejoicing in the now and and what he's what he's brought us from and and seeking him and worshiping him. And then it's also just community and doing it together with those that you love. Between the feasts and Sabbath, um, which is our next practice actually, um, we like God has uh set us up to have about one third of our year should be in celebration and feasting.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

I like that.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Right? That's how it should be, you know, taco Tuesdays all the time, all those things. So no, um, but just like some of that stuff, just to keep in mind of like, I think I often get stuck in viewing God as not that much fun, I guess, sometimes. Like he's good, but do I see him as like really loving and generous and and some of the I don't know, just some of those things I have a harder time seeing him as sometimes. And I think this is a little bit of like recognizing him as a loving, caring God. Um, and so pilgrim feast, like what the practice is basically is saying, hey, we want to set aside a time to be intentional to seek God and to commit this gift that he has for us to him. And so the idea is to take like a what we call vacation, and instead of just saying this is something that I have earned that I deserve, and I just check out and just whatever kids watch as much TV as they want, maybe okay. I don't know. Um, eat all the foods, lay at the beach, whatever it is. Um, that can be really rich as a family sometimes, but how often do we actually put it as a gift from God that we're able to do that? Um, and that we turn that towards him with intentionality of of worshiping him through that and pointing our kids to that of like this is God's generosity towards us. Um, is this is a picture of it. And and all throughout life is really opportunities to see what we're doing and point out God in those moments. Um, and so that's a little bit of what pilgrim feast is. And and the reality is that I know some of you probably hear vacation and like what is that? We don't get those anymore, right? With kids, do you get those?

SPEAKER_01 6:54

It's definitely different.

SPEAKER_03 6:56

Yes, and even financially, it's really hard for some. So I we also want to talk about like kind of how to how to lower the bar or not to have it as this big thing and this big um a burden, but how it can be something special and how you can take even like small moments and make it um a smaller or or uh a more doable pilgrim feast for you and your family. So um, but yeah, and I'd like to hear just like your first thoughts on Pilgrim Feast, um just kind of your first thoughts on it, and then I'd love to hear what you guys did this past year as a family.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

Yeah, so initially um I was really excited to kind of have the shift in vision from we're just planning another family vacation to like, okay, this has to be something a little bit different. And I mean, get the chance to be more intentional about how would God maybe have us use this time? Like, what season is our family in that we need to address makes it sound like a burden, but like that we need to really lean into and say, okay, if we're taking this time to celebrate as a family and to think about what God has done, where he has us, like how's that different? So for us, leading into our pilgrim feast last year, um, you know, we've sort of just ended this long season of fostering, right? We'd fostered for eight years, we've adopted two kiddos, and um it had been kind of a challenging season. So we have four biological kids and then um two younger adopted kiddos. And um I guess looking at it, like what was important to us going into it was recognizing we were in a season where the four older kids were struggling with connection to the family and maybe having a hard time with some of the behaviors of the little guys. And we just really decided to pray about all right, God, what do you have for us in this pilgrim feast in this time? What can we do that's special that would serve the needs of our family? And my husband and I really felt like the Lord was leading us to lean in for the older kids and find a way to really pour into them and make it a special time of just sort of reconnection and celebrating all that they had put into this journey and like the season of life they're in. We had two kids, you know, after our pilgrim feast, we were gonna have two in college and one in high school and a middle schooler, and we're like, oh my gosh, our time is fleeting. And this is like a really precious time to um just grab those moments with them before they're all grown up and they're off having vacations with their own families. And so um what we decided to do was actually it was a hard decision, but because our younger two have a lot of special needs and are um pretty challenging, we knew that taking a vacation all of us together was gonna be just a little bit too much in this season. And I think probably some of you listening that have um it's almost like a blended family sometimes, right? Like you have different dynamics, different needs um and abilities that if we all went on vacation together, it would not be the same as if maybe we split it up. So we decided to take our four big kids who are, like I said, two adults and two teens, um, on a special trip. And that for this time to let our little two have a special week with grandma and grandpa. They got to go to a really fun camp overnight for a couple days and then had some special time with grandma and grandpa. And so we um decided to do that and had saved up for kind of a I don't know, a more fun trip. Like usually, like we we certainly don't go on a big vacation every year. That's not how our family uh works, but this time we did. So we um recognize that the big kids all love being out in nature and they love camping and they love um you know, just being outdoors. And for me personally, being out in the mountains and in nature is the best way for me to reconnect with the Lord. It always has been. Like it's just it makes me think of Psalm 121, which is one of my favorites, you know. Like I lift up my eyes to the mountains. Where does my help come from? The help comes from the Lord. And so we're like, if we're gonna make this a special time that's about reconnecting with the Lord and and seeing him in the goodness of our lives, where better to do that than the mountains? So we took the kids out to a national park in Washington State and unplugged for the whole week and just hung out in nature. We had like very little plans. We didn't, you know, we just went into the park every day and went on hikes and sat in a stream looking at rocks and like literally just played, and it was so much fun. We had the best opportunities for um reconnecting with the older kids and um just hanging out and hearing their hearts and skipping rocks, and um, it was really, really fun.

SPEAKER_03 12:03

So that's awesome. That was very long-winded of it. No, that was not, that was perfect. I love the details too of like unplugging, doing something, and and and the fact of like the reality of a lot of us and our families is that it is challenging to do an intentional time and the honoring of like these your bio siblings or children, the older four, like they they're in this as well. And so to walk with them, like there is something special about that. And and I know even um our oldest son, like he's biologically ours, and so there is something about like he's been on this journey with us the whole time as well, fostering. And so, like, there is something of honoring that and and walking with them in that and spending those times and and being able to I don't know, just reconnect in that way as a family. And so, like, so I really like that and appreciate that of of finding, um, seeing like what is needed for your family in that time and and realizing what's what how to do it, and like to go out to in nature to unplug to spend time with your family. Um, because one of the biggest things with Pilgrim Feast is connecting with those that you love and your family and being able to like see God in that.

SPEAKER_01 13:17

Yeah. Um and honestly, it gave us some very uncheesy ways to like bring God into the time.

SPEAKER_03 13:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:23

You know, teenagers are gonna like roll their eyes hardcore at you if you're like, you know, now let's open our Bibles and pull out a verse, you know, and make it too formal or I don't know, forced. Yeah. So just being out in the beauty of, you know, the mountains and the on the coast, and it was so amazing, like seeing little seals floating by and just like it gave us natural opportunities to talk about um God and how amazing he is and what he's created and who he is to us. And so that was really nice because you know, as mom and dad, it's hard to not be super cringy and yeah, right, right.

SPEAKER_03 14:02

Yeah, I was gonna ask, like, you know, yeah, how was that? Like, did it feel weird to the kids, or did I did you feel pressure in like, okay, how do I make this a pilgrim feast throughout and keep that in mind or just a little bit initially, but then it was like, oh, we're just we're hanging with the kids.

SPEAKER_01 14:19

So it was like natural and um, yeah, I would say it was pretty it was just really fun. And they recognized that we were doing things we don't normally do, like we're not a family that goes out to eat much because we're a large family and that costs a lot of money. But we had saved up for it on this vacation to be like, you know, yeah, let's go enjoy like some food that we all really love and let's go try some of the indigenous food for the area that we're in. And it was just really cool and fun to go explore.

SPEAKER_03 14:46

Yeah, yeah. No, I like that. I remember um someone sharing last year as we talked about Pilgrim Feast, was like they feel guilty sometimes on vacation. Like, we're already spending this money, like we need to like be more thrifty with um the food that we have. And I mean, rightfully so, we need to be good stewards of our money and budget well and not be irresponsible. But at the same time, like, do we trust God and do we put things in place that we can do that, where we budget accordingly and say, like, let's plan to to eat some of our favorite foods, right? To do some of these things, to like just be reminded again and again and and enjoy what God has for us. Um I don't know. We serve a a wonderful and great God that is so generous and and a loving father. And so like we I think just miss that so often, and and that's a part of him that he wants us to be like as generous as he's been with us, can we in return like one experience that but then share that with others?

SPEAKER_01 15:52

Right.

SPEAKER_03 15:52

Share that with our kids, share that with those that we interact with, to be generous, to be loving, to be um yeah, just yeah, he delights to give us good gifts, right?

SPEAKER_01 16:03

And so, like that's one way we can reflect him to our kids.

SPEAKER_03 16:07

Yeah, yeah. Well, um, let's talk a little bit. Well, I can share a little bit about what we did, I guess. I should share my side. Um, so for our family, it was we already had a vacation planned, and you know, this is how my life is is that everything's a blur and I forget what even happened like yesterday. So I was sitting here and I'm like, where did we go on vacation? I don't even remember. Uh we went to Missouri. That's right. We went to Missouri uh with my wife's family, and something we do every other year. We we go with um my wife's family on a little bit bigger vacation kind of thing with them. And um, so we drove there and it was good. And we some of the things that we put in place were like, okay, letting the kids make a playlist kind of thing so that we can listen to that along the way, um, going out and getting ice cream here and there, like just trying to do these little special things just to make sure that they remember and like pointing them in the whole time of like, you know, this is like God has been so has richly blessed us, and so we want to just like show that in this way, but also like be remembering where this comes from. This is not out of we earn this or deserve this, but to like to bless him and and to um receive the gift that he has for us. And so um just full uh like a week full of just like really rich times with cousins and family, good food, good conversations. Um and so like I mean, I guess in some ways it didn't it wasn't super different than what we would typically do on our vacations, but what was different was just the mind sh mindset and intentionality of like how we framed it. Um and just seeing our kids kind of join along and and love that, you know, and embrace that. And my my favorite thing in it though was like we were on top of like Table Rock Lake was out the back kind of thing. Like we were nowhere close to it because it was so we were so high up, like from where the lake was, but it was just an incredible view. Oh, that's fun. Just overlooking it from the the porch that was there on the house, and so just being able to sit with family um and just connect and just watch God's beauty, like that was something that was just so evident to us and and obvious and and able to point that out to to each other and remind each other of that. And um, and so it was just really good. And I I love the idea of like, let's put thought into what we're doing and how we're planning it. And and this year I want to do even like do more in it as um So what would you do differently this year? Again, I think get the kids more involved. Like I think it was sometimes gearing up for a vacation is like the stress calling.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

I won't say the word that came to mind. Wow, yeah. It's a lot.

SPEAKER_03 19:03

It's a lot, yeah. And um, and so then you're just like taking the first little while just to like recover. Um and but instead like trying to gear them up and prepare them for it. And that's something I need to start doing now because we actually have um we have a wedding that we're going to, a destination wedding in Florida. Very fun. Um no comment, but no, it'll it'll be good.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

It gets you to Florida probably. I'm really excited about it.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

And some of our kids have never been to the beach. Oh, that's and so this is a chance for them to get to the beach to the ocean um for the first time. And so we're really excited about that opportunity, and we want to make it something special for them just to like remember that. And right now I'm just like, we're just flying through, and it's coming up quicker than I realize, and so needing to like slow down and be intentional um with it. And the other side is is maybe I've I've had the thought of like maybe this isn't the pilgrim feast one. Um, my dad uh and his brother have like a cabin in southeastern Ohio that we could go to and have a uh weekend away kind of thing in the sticks, and that could be something that we'd put a little more intentionality in. And so maybe we do that. I don't know. We're trying to figure it all out, but just like having those conversations with Britt and like how do we plan this, how do we prepare this, how do we walk with the kids in this? And so, um, and I know it's hard, and that's been a thing from a lot of our f you know, staff and coworkers, whatever, is that like, how do we do this with young kids? And so um uh me, with the help of Chad GPT and some other things, I can't take all credit for this, um, came up with some ideas of ways that we can make pilgrim feasts more manageable with young kids. And so I'd love to kind of go through this a little bit just to like share with you guys, um, as a lot of you are in that stage with a lot of young kids and hard, and and so I think the first thing is to lower our expectations, um, to know that it's not gonna be this glorious, like, you know, revival, like come to Jesus time, um, or that it's gonna be this perfect thing, like to lower that and know that it's not gonna be that way, but to be okay with that. Yeah, to be okay with some, you know, chaos, and the goal is not, you know, this perfect thing, but it's connection um and it's worship to God. And so, how do we do that well? Um, it's a gift to receive, it's not something to perform or to manage or to make happen.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

And so um well, I like what you you said about like um off air of lowering lowering the spiritual bar and raising the relational one.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

Yes, yes, there we go. I'll that was sometimes I don't even remember those words that I said.

SPEAKER_01 21:54

Your own great words, yeah. Like focusing on playing together and laughing together and like just I don't know, pulling out the old family jokes and you know, really Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:05

And maybe it's the change of like we go two ways. We either think vacation or whatever should be for us and that we earned it, or it should be like all about our kids and everything there. And what is it for for all? All of us to be connecting with Jesus and to be like having this time that is rich. And so, like, what does it look like to be realistic in that? And so, like, kids often worship is play and fun and those things, you know, and for us, worship is sitting outside in the quiet watching the sunrise or something or set and with a good cup of coffee. Um yeah, and so just like make them mini pilgrimages instead. Like it doesn't have to be this week-long thing or this going to Florida at the beach kind of thing, or going out west to a national park. I mean, those things are awesome, and I I love the the difference of beauty that's there in both.

SPEAKER_01 23:04

Um but they're not always financially practical, or you know, your work schedule may not permit, and we gotta keep it real, right? Because I mean, even for our family this coming year, like we've had a job change and some different things, so it's gonna look more like a staycation pilgrim feast. But I really think it could still be um just as rich, honestly, like finding local ways and time to unplug and special, special things to do together.

SPEAKER_03 23:30

And and budgeting accordingly to have some like feasting times there. And also like there is beautiful parks around here and different places. Like, okay, if nature is one of these ways to unplug and that we can connect a little bit more, like let's be intentional and take a you know a Saturday or an afternoon or something and like do that.

SPEAKER_00 23:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 23:52

Um and I mean just do those little things, let them, you know, take part of like getting some snacks or packing or going with you shopping to get things, um, choosing a playlist. Um I don't know, things that you know are gonna be really rich. I I just was listening to a podcast of these pastors talking about Sabbath and things they do that give them life. Uh-huh. And the ones like, I've recently rediscovered laser tag and that they just love it. And it just gives them so much life. And they'll go on their what on their day of Sabbath as a family and they'll play Laser Tag sometimes. And so just like it doesn't have to be this super spiritual thing, right? But it has to be a thing that like points you to God and brings life. Yeah. Um, and so that's I know that's Sabbath, but pilgrim feast is like really a form of that, a more of a long, long form of Sabbath in some ways. And so just building those little things into your life and what you do and into your little moments with your kids. Um Yeah, I don't know. Anything else that stood out to you from this?

SPEAKER_01 25:00

Um expect meltdowns and plan for grace. I think that should be the bumper sticker for your pilgrim feast because you know, like whether your kids are teenagers and gonna have, you know, oh, I had to not hang out with my boyfriend to do this, or you know, they're like little and need a nap and all that jazz. Like it's not gonna be perfect. And even like things like, you know, tech rules. You don't want to necessarily be like super, I don't know, that's it, we're locking up our phones in the vault for the week, and you know, then you're gonna have a lot of backlash. But like just setting some, let's try to be more unplugged and like, hey, let's let's toss all our phones in a basket for this afternoon as we all like hang out and play games together or whatever. Yeah, yeah. So just not having it to be perfect, but um just leaning in toward better.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

Yeah, right. And it's those little victories and little moments. And it I also think with this, like it's a practice, and so it's not gonna be perfect. So it's about growing in it and working at it and and just committing that time. And so, um, and maybe it's something as the years go on and your family and yourself become more accustomed to it and like recognize that this is how we do this, it can grow and it can change and it can become something, you know, I don't know, more of what you would hope it to be or expectations of it to be. I I don't know. Yeah. Um, but it can, you know, be something that you build on year after year. Um yeah. Just having those little moments uh with your kids and with your family is special. And so like to have that festival experience or feasting experience of of the old days of of ancient times and and being able to do that with our family now to point them to Jesus, to remember what he's done for us, where he's brought us through, and what and that he's faithful to bring us forward out of that as well, into the next things as life continues to happen, obviously. And so I don't know, just remembering some of those things. Um so I'll read the exact exercise that we were challenged to do by by the experience here, and so that you guys can take this home and have all right. So the exploratory exercise was take some time to consider what it might look like to enjoy a pilgrim feast in the year ahead. Dream together with your family andor friends. And so that's an important part is like this can be something with others, like with a family or or people that you treasure that are deep and near to you, um, and pray about it. Ask God how would you desire to restore my or our souls through a pilgrim feast this year, and then just to do it, to map it out, to plan it, to put it on the calendar, um, and then you know, just get moving in it. And I I'd challenge you to like put something on the calendar to put it in place and then figure out the details later, like write it in pen. Yes, in pen, yeah. No wide out, right? No. I mean, obviously it can change, but I think it's important to put that in place just to like set that that's a goal for this year at this time is to get to this place and to have it be intentional. Um and the things that um they mentioned in the video was like make it a special place, make it about relationships, uh, time outdoors as it just you know screams God's glory and goodness and creation, uh, favorite foods and drink. Uh they recommend physical activity as just that changes things as well, just like being outside and and moving and enjoying that together, having those experiences, and then music. Like oftentimes uh in the pilgrimages for the feast, they were like singing these songs of ascent um as they walked up towards Jerusalem, and just the richness of that can be. Um, I'll have to find the link, but I'll add that to the show notes. But there is a um a group that I listened to some that they have a whole album called Songs of Ascent. Oh, that's cool. That is the songs of the psalms that are the songs that they would sing during that time, and so I'll have to maybe share that or get that linked in the show notes. So um then I will also put a link for the like kind of the family model or lowering not lowering the bar. It's still good. I feel like that's like discrediting it, but making it like changing the expectations of what it looks like as a f as a young family, um, what it looks like. Um other things that it says to incorporate sleep, lots of sleep, rest, lots of napping, tech boundaries. So that's something that is so prevalent in our today's age, and like what are some ways that we can put some healthy boundaries and rules around that that are going to be good for everyone, for mom and dad, and for the kids. So um, and then just the length of time, like trying to be intentional. Like I know we talked about lowering the bar. I think if you can do a good chunk of time, I think that's really really special. And so it can be just uh full of some richer things, and you have some of those deeper moments sometimes in those more like week-long times away from the norm. Um yeah. So that's kind of the the exercise of pilgrim feast. Um, and I don't know, I just I guess in in leaving this, um, want to encourage all of you to like think about what it looks like to change what you maybe viewed as a vacation before and be intentional of what it looks like to let it be a gift from God and a place where you worship and glorify and point to Him in that. And uh for those that maybe don't typically plan vacations or maybe it's not uh financially feasible for you, like what does it look like in the the time that you're in now, and what can it look like to be taking those moments or those ways that are still pointing to God? Because no matter whether you are um financially in a good place or not, like we are all like poor before the Lord, but rich in his blessing of like we can't do any of this on our own, and like we are sinners saved by grace um through Christ, and so like the only way we can really do what we do is through him. Um and so just remembering that blessing that we have that we we are all bankrupt before him um and we desperately need him. Uh Ann, any closing thoughts from you?

SPEAKER_01 31:35

I think just to dream about it, pray about it, and then get it on the calendar.

SPEAKER_03 31:39

That's right, dream about it. I like that. So all right, well, Ann, thanks for absolutely always joining me. Yeah, it is always fun. Such a pleasure to do this with you. And um I just want to thank all of you for tuning in. Again, follow us on all the socials. Um, we have our Mobilize Ohio conference coming up in March, um, March 21st. And so make sure you sign up for that as registration is starting to fill up and and we want to see as many people come as possible. As this is just a time that is so rich in encouragement and and in just joining others that are walking through similar paths as you and just hearing what God's doing in this space and and hearing from some great uh speakers in this space that just have a lot of like wisdom and knowledge and the hope of Christ in uh this foster care journey that we're all on. Um, and it's also a place where if you're interested in foster care, come check it out. If you're working in some kind of ministry involved in it or or in social work or whatever that you're dealing in it, like any person involved in some way, like it's beneficial for you, honestly. Um, I think it'd be good. Um, and then also if you're a pastor and ministry leader, uh March 20th, the day before, uh, we're gonna do a pastors and ministry leader brunch. Um, and that is just a really good time of like getting together a bunch of people in that space, in that environment, that um come around the same idea of like how can we as a church step in and make a difference? Um and yeah, just really excited for that as well. Um so again, sign up for those things, check out our website, and uh we hope to hear from you guys and see you guys soon, and and uh just pray that you guys have a blessed day and that you get this pilgrim feast thing going to have a blessed year. So, all right, thank you.