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122. Single Mom, Full Circle: Cat’s Journey with Hope Bridge

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On this episode of Restoried, Mel sits down to talk with Jen Zwick and Cat Tortola about hope, faith, and transformation. Cat isn’t just a graduate of the Hope Bridge Single Moms Program; she’s now the Single Mom Program’s coordinator, helping other single moms navigate life, growth, and family. She shares her journey from feeling stuck and overwhelmed to finding support, community, and confidence through Hope Bridge. 

Cat shares about her experience moving into transitional housing, stepping into church for the first time, getting baptized, and even partnering with Habitat for Humanity to rehab her own home. Along the way, Cat learned practical life skills, discovered her potential, and gained the confidence to take bold steps forward. She also shares her hopes for the future: mentoring other single moms and creating a space where they feel truly seen, heard, and supported. 

If you’re looking for inspiration or want to see how community and God’s faithfulness can change lives, this episode is for you. Whether you’re a single mom looking for support or just want to see hope in action, tune in to hear how you can get involved, get connected with Hope Bridge, or cheer for these amazing women on their journey. 

 

Episode Highlights:  

  • Meet Cat!  
  • Overcoming fear and doubt 
  • Embracing community support 
  • Growth through guidance 
  • Faith-fueled transformation 
  • Empowerment for single mom 

 

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SPEAKER_00

Hopebridge is on a gospel-led mission to transform the foster care landscape in Ohio. We're here to raise awareness and empower churches and communities to step into action by supporting vulnerable children and families in their local communities. In this podcast, we'll be shining a light on stories of hope, redemption, and transformation, and sharing practical ways that you can step in and get involved. Welcome to Restoried, a podcast by Hope Bridge.

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to another episode of the Restoried Podcast. I'm Mel Montgomery, your host for today's episode, and I am super excited to be joined by Jen Zwick, our community outreach coordinator. Say hi, Jen. Hi. And then also on today's episode, Jen and I get the chance to introduce you to someone who is very near and dear to our heart and also is now our coworker. Should we introduce you as Katherine or Kat? Not the government name. I was like, is it official? Are we going official? So Kat Tortola is our new single moms program coordinator. So she is stepping in to help lead our single moms. And that role is such a natural fit for her because she is a recent graduate of the Hope Bridge Single Moms Program. Round of applause. We should have had a little like uh golf clap, golf clap, golf clap, golf clap, or like a um sound thing we could have played. Um yeah, so today's episode is really just giving you um a front row seat into hearing about Kat's story and the impact of the Hope Bridge single mom's program in her life and just kind of celebrating all that God has done in and through that, and then also just our hopes and excitement for the future.

SPEAKER_02

I heard about Hope Bridge through a co-worker at JFS. Her name is Renee. She had let me know that her tax preparer or someone related to her tax preparer um told her about Hope Bridge because he had gained custody of Grandpa Mike.

SPEAKER_01

Grandpa Mike, here you go on another episode. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

He was a tax preparer.

SPEAKER_01

So his brother-in-law owns, but he does work for him, like on the side. Okay. This is always my my most favorite thing is hearing how God brings people to Hope Bridge through just the craziest, craziest ways.

SPEAKER_03

I always say nothing we could ever imagine, dream up, come up with the idea. And God is like, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_02

So had you just shared like you were looking to move, or so I was in a pretty rough position with Roman's dad. I had ended up moving back into my dad's house and staying in his basement with myself and both my kids, Sophia and Roman. And I had shared that with my co-workers, just the struggles I was having, and you know, just trying to figure out life again after starting over. And Renee had told me, Oh, I heard about Hope Bridge. You should look into it. Um, so I looked into it, looked out of it, looked back into it. Um, and she just really gave me that push of motivation to reach out and fill out the inquiry online. And then I ended up talking to Mel.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so we have on our website, and we will link that in the show notes also. Um, we have a connection form on our website for any single mom that would like to be welcomed into this community and have access to resources and information. So you can check that out. But yes, it was in February of 2024 that because I went back and looked recently to try to find exactly what you had put on your inquiry. Um so yeah, it's been almost exactly two years to the date since you reached out, which is crazy because I feel like it flew by. Yes, definitely. Oh my gosh. Yeah. But I remember we just had a phone call and just got some more information about your story, and just said, okay, you know, do you want to think about moving into our housing program? And you were very hesitant.

SPEAKER_02

I was hesitant and I was also thinking to myself, this is too good to be true. Like there is no way that someone like me, with everything that I have going on, would ever fall into something like this. But like you said, it's God's plan. You would never think of it. It's just something that He makes happen. And I don't think I well, I know I didn't see it that way at first. Um because it like I said, it was just too good to be true. I felt so stuck and just didn't know what the future held.

SPEAKER_01

But yeah, which we know from the moms that we have interacted with that that's so common that a lot of moms end up finding us in a very low, desperate place where they are maybe literally stuck in their living situation. Financially, they're stuck, emotionally, sp spiritually for many of them. It just doesn't seem like there's a way forward. So you had an opportunity to think through kind of the housing program. We saw the house. What do you remember was like, was there a moment that you're like, all right, I think I'm just gonna go for it?

SPEAKER_02

Um, I had I think we had gone back and forth for a couple weeks about it. Um when you did finally take me to see the house, I walked in and I was like, oh my gosh, everything in here is new, and like I get to use all this stuff. I don't have to bring anything with me because I didn't really have anything to bring with me, anyways, except myself and my kids. And um I remember going back and talking to my best friend Hannah, and I explained it all to her, and she was like, You have no idea what kind of opportunity this is. And I really rely on her for a lot of advice and just a lot of different things in my life. So I listened to her and I got back with Melanie after bugging me for a little while about it.

SPEAKER_01

Shout out to Hannah. Are we officially saying on the podcast Hannah was right?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Hannah is always right. She always has good advice and always uh leads me in a really positive direction. So we yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So you and the kids ended up moving in and began uh what originally was intended to be an 18-month program. Um, and for those who maybe are not caught up on what our transitional housing program entails, um we offer single moms an opportunity to live in a home that's fully furnished for a very low rent in exchange for saving money, working with a financial coach, attending a single mom's group, growing mentally, spiritually, just really setting aside a period of time in your life to be 100% laser focused on your growth for the long-term success and stability of your family. And so you very, you know, planfully took some time to consider like, am I ready for this? Am I ready to really jump into this? And you decided that you were, and we just hit the ground running. And I don't think, Jen, were you here when she moved in? I don't think you had joined our team yet.

SPEAKER_03

I was not, and it had to have been probably six months into it. I don't know if it was that much. I remember meeting you at church before ever meeting you through our program because I started in June. She moved in in April. Yeah, so a couple months, and I remember then you doing an introduction at church between us.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So yeah. So she moved in, Jen joined the team, and we just started.

SPEAKER_03

How long did it take you to maybe realize like this is what I have right now with the program?

SPEAKER_02

Um you mean like from when I thought it was too good to be true? Yes. I'd say once I reached a certain point in communication with Mel, and I realized like, oh, this is somebody that is actually really invested in my life and wants me to succeed. Um it wasn't anything that felt forced. And I never really had support like that before from anyone in my adult life. I mean, I had a few of my friends and my family that are supportive, but to have someone on the outside really see me and just want the best for me. Um it was a little hard to trust at first, but once I realized that, oh, this is genuine, this is something I need to really grab a hold of, because she really had a hold on me too.

SPEAKER_01

One of my best qualities.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but definitely grabbed our hearts.

SPEAKER_01

Oh well, and I mean from my perspective, I will say like I could just see your potential immediately, you know, and there are so many moms that we meet that I I see potential in them too. And I wish that just our society in general could look at these moms who desperately love their children and want to be well and want to be equipped with the the supports and things that they need to be the mothers that God created them to be. There's just limitless potential for so many people, but it always comes back to are you willing to put in the work? Because lots of people have potential, but not everybody is willing to do the work to make the changes necessary. And you did, yeah. So we just kind of started down this path of working on finances and you were already establishing a job, so that was going well, and then um you kind of plugged into one of the support groups that we had at the time, and then uh as we were meeting, we kind of started working on like you know the spiritual aspect of things, and I always love to tell the story of just inviting you to church, and I think the very first time you came, you had texted me, and you're like, I'm in the parking lot, I don't know if I can even go inside. And you're like, I have tattoos. Is this a problem? Right. What do I remember saying, like, I'm pretty sure the pastor has a tattoo? Like, I think it'll be okay.

SPEAKER_03

And probably most of the people here sitting around, including us, have them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I think I just had um never experienced any positive church background. I not that there's anything wrong with the Catholic Church, but that I grew up going to Catholic school. Um, my parents were Christmas and Easter Catholic, so I didn't go to church very often. Uh, but there was just um a stigma around certain things. Sure. I didn't know what to expect. So all of those questions flooded to the front of my mind. I was like, am I gonna be judged? Am I gonna do this right or wrong?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. You were really just kind of like confronting your whole framework of what quote unquote church looked like. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I remember walking in and I'm like, what is going on? There are no statues in here. I don't have to give myself signing the cross with holy water. I was like, what am I getting into? It was such a comfortable environment, and I had I just didn't know what to expect from the people and my surroundings, and even the kids' program. I was so nervous to drop my son Roman off in the power kids room.

SPEAKER_03

Wasn't that the first time I remember you?

SPEAKER_02

That was the first time anyone except Hannah or my family had watched or been with him. And I was like panicking about that the whole time.

SPEAKER_01

But now Roman loves going. I was gonna say, isn't that so funny to think about that version of you? Because now you're just like, peace out. See you later, bro. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And you probably could have gone down and sat with them in the nursery and they wouldn't have cared as well.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah. Such a fun time. Um well, let's just fast forward a little bit in the story. So you moved in, and then we kind of just started rebuilding things from the ground up. And then let's see, January 2025. January 19th.

SPEAKER_02

I know what that day is. Yeah, it's my second birthday now. Um, January 19th, 2025. I made the decision to get baptized. I know it makes me emotional too. Or handing out tissues.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I it was so it was extra special because at our church there are planned baptisms, like there are times when people can intentionally prepare, and you know, the church will record like a testimony video, but then there are also times for spontaneous baptisms where people can just be totally spirit-led and come up to the front and be baptized. And so that was what you had chosen to do. Did you even know? Like, obviously, you probably didn't know there were gonna be baptisms that day, so you probably didn't wake up thinking it, but like, yeah, do you remember in your head when they kind of opened it up to like anybody that wants to get baptized, come on down.

SPEAKER_02

So um the sermon was about just saying all you have to do is say yes to Jesus. You can leave everything in your past behind you, it doesn't have to weigh you down, it doesn't have to chase you, it doesn't define you. Um and now mind you, this was one of the first services that I went to. Maybe maybe three or four services before this, I'd gone by myself. Um so I was by myself. I didn't even have or no, I I did have both my kids with me, but they were in power kids. Um, I was by myself sitting in like the second row because that's where Mel had sat with me when I started going, and that was just where I was comfortable, I guess. Right in the front. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Love that second row.

SPEAKER_02

Um, but yeah, the sermon was just about not letting your past define you, and all you have to do is say yes to Jesus. And just a couple weeks prior to that, it was Christmas Eve of 2024. And I don't know if I've shared this story with you guys either, but I put my kids to bed, got all their Christmas presents put out. I'm getting ready to go to bed, and I just um turned around and looked at my Christmas tree at my house with um all the joy in the world in my heart, and I just fell to my knees and thanked God. And I feel like that was the first time that I really heard from him. Um, just a confirmation of all the work that you're doing. Um, like you said, lasering in on self-improvement and trusting him is working. And he just told me to keep going and that everything I'm doing for my kids is the best thing I can be doing for them. So when I heard that during the sermon, that really that um experience on Christmas Eve came to mind, and I'm just like, this is so real. Everything I'm experiencing is so real. I I want to say yes to Jesus, that's all I have to do. I feel like I said yes on Christmas Eve, but it was an opportunity to share that shamelessly. Um and we're at coming to the end of worship, and the song Abandoned came on. Oh my god. Oh, I'm gonna need one past the tissue. And that started playing, and I just like I felt the Holy Spirit totally just washed over me. And I was thinking to myself, like, can I can I really do this? Should I should I go up there and do this? And I sat down and I'm sobbing, like crying so uncontrollably, I didn't know what was going on. And I had somebody, I don't even know who it was, behind me put their hand on my shoulder. And um, they were getting ready to wrap up the baptisms, and I just like scurried around the back of the chairs and went over and um asked Pastor Aaron, I'm like, Do you have an extra towel for me? I think this is something I'm ready to do. I said, you know, I'm I'm here, let's do it. He said, 'Are you how are you feeling? What are you doing?' I said, I'm nervous. I don't know what I'm doing. But um, yeah, I went up there, got in the tub, and it was just me and the Lord. And it was one of the most beautiful, most amazing moments of my life. And I I um remember leaving church and getting home, and I called my dad. I was like, You'll never believe what I just did today. I I decided to get baptized at church, and he's like, What do you mean, baptized? They dunked you in a bunch of water. I'm like, Yeah, exactly. I got in a whole tub, all my clothes on and everything. It was like I said, just a shameless, totally all in response to what I knew was true. And then um, I reached out to you guys and told you, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Like, of course, when we're not there, worse, we're gonna have to get to that part of the story. How Jen and I just the way it worked out, we were not there. And so I don't think I don't remember if you sent me I think I don't remember if you texted me or if you sent me a link to like the live, like the recording of it. Because I remember you were in a pink sweater and I just remember like seeing and I was just like, What?

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What what?

SPEAKER_02

How could you not tell me how could you do this without us?

SPEAKER_01

No, but we were obviously just so overjoyed for you. And I remember sending the the video to the whole team and just saying, like, look what God did, like, look, look how incredible this is, and you know, this is why we're doing what we're doing, right? This is why we are putting people in circumstances that seem too good to be true because that's what Jesus does, is just radically unconditionally loves the crap out of us for reasons that don't make sense, and that's you know what we want to mirror to the moms that we're walking with. So you got baptized in January, and then I don't even remember kind of how the whole idea of pursuing. I mean, we obviously knew your time in our housing program was temporary, was obviously not meant to be permanent. And the question was always looming over of like, where am I gonna go? Where am I gonna move? What what am I gonna do? I feel like I asked you that every day for literally all the time. You did ask that question quite a bit. All the time.

SPEAKER_03

But a valid concern. It is a valid concern. Yes, definitely.

SPEAKER_01

But it was also a part of just like building your faith, too, was trusting that God was gonna have a plan and make a way and all of that. So somewhere in that timeline, kind of running parallel to your journey, was Hope Ridge as an organization got connected to Habitat for Humanity. East Central Ohio. East Okay.

SPEAKER_03

It was right before that because we had helped with as an organization, we had helped with the habitat build. And I that must have been where it began.

SPEAKER_01

It began it's like right before the Christ Foundation had sponsored a build for a single mom. And so we had gone to volunteer on her project, and I met Courtney there and Beth, and um, we just started having this conversation about what would it look like for Hope bridge to kind of operate as like a a referral base or like a feeder type program into habitat. The bridge over to Habitat. The bridge. Right. Nice segue. Um, and so I had sat down and met with them and they were like, okay, well, like who are you working with? I'm like, we have this mom. Her name is Kat. She's incredible.

SPEAKER_03

I say star.

SPEAKER_01

Right. She is our gold star student.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, but so true. She may say quit, but it's so true.

SPEAKER_01

And um, they were like, That that's awesome. Like, have her apply, you know, let's just kind of see where this could go. And I remember telling you about it, and you were like, game on and just kind of pursued it from there.

SPEAKER_02

I think it was either that night that I got the green light, or like maybe a couple days after that. It took me two or three days to gather all of the paperwork I needed. Um, and I put it all into one zip file on my iPad, and I was like, I have it ready to turn in. I've got everything they need, so I won't have to go back and forth on anything. I'm ready to just dive into it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And you submitted your paperwork and then I got a proof for a needs assessment with them, which was just an interview to go over um, you know, why I needed housing and I was in the Hope Ridge program. Um needed something long term that was gonna, you know, fit me and my my family.

SPEAKER_01

So and based on the the timing of how much time you had left in our program, Habitat decided it would be better to do a rehab project with you as opposed to like a new build, which was so fun to see because I didn't even know that they did. They call it family preservation? Is that what it's home preservation? Home preservation?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I'd seen a couple of those, but didn't know that it was as common as now I can see that it is.

SPEAKER_02

When I was looking online on their website just to, you know, where are these home preservations or what does it look like? Because they have photo albums of all the new builds and um just the whole start to finish process of things like that. But you look on their website and you don't see a whole lot of the preserva homes, so I didn't know what to expect. Sure. Um and I think just because of the type of planner that I am, that was really challenging for me because I needed to know everything. Okay, and it so that I had to kind of release the control a little bit there, yeah, and give that to God, and He took care of all of that for me. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So yeah, even throughout, so you were accepted into Habitat, they decided a rehab project was best, but then they had to actually find the home they were gonna rehab, and that took months. It did. And just you know, again, this this whole journey has really been evidence of God working in your life and your heart in helping you to trust and to have faith and to not be anxious because there were many moments, I mean, throughout where like they thought they had a house and they thought they got one, and then it fell through. And then you would see something, you know, we'd pass on to them, and and there were just lots of moments where it was like, okay, are we ever are they? Ever gonna find a house? Right. And then I believe I think it was the one that ended up being your home. Am I remembering this correctly? That you had seen it and I had said something you had sent sent it to me, or was that a different one?

SPEAKER_02

That was a different one, that was closer to the 31st Street house. Okay. And they I think were working on that one, and then it felt falling through.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Well, regardless, God was in it and knew the house that was eventually destined to be yours. So they did find a house, started working on it. I was gonna say we all got to help, but I actually didn't help at all.

SPEAKER_02

Jen did you brought Jimmy Johns, the one to provide?

SPEAKER_01

Jen did a lot more of the work volunteering on the house because you were there for like the demo day, weren't you?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

We demoed the kitchen together. That was the best day.

SPEAKER_03

She was like a powerhouse with that sledgehammer. Like I said, that'll take some frustration out.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I there you go. I said it was more fun and cheaper than therapy.

SPEAKER_03

What I really liked at Habitat, I think it was Joe that helped that day. He was very um, you know, gave great directions and you know, this is the way you do it. And it was just like he kind of let me really I but I do, yeah. I feel like he let you, you know, just take over and it was fun. Just put in that, you know, have that skin in the game of this is my home. Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

That was probably my favorite sweat equity day. I would agree, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Except for the wallpaper.

SPEAKER_02

Okay. Well, Lewis was on a lot of the wallpaper for a while, and then he moved on to paint for another sweat equity day.

SPEAKER_03

We were having trouble with the wallpaper steamer. Yikes.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

There was a border all around several rooms everywhere.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I feel like the spirit of the habitat program is very similar to the spirit of our program in that nobody, whether it's Hope Ridge or Habitat, no one did anything other than just help activate parts of you that were already there. Oh. That helped to just give you the confidence to really walk in who God created you to be. You know, like a hard worker, somebody that can persevere, that's resilient. That's always who you've been. It's just along the way, circumstances and experiences have caused you to forget that or to think that it's not true. Satan has just whispered lies like he does. And um, it's just been really cool to kind of see you, and then the other moms that we've worked with too just like really wake up from that of like, okay, I just kind of lost who I was for a minute there, but now I remember, you know, I'm called, I'm chosen, I'm all of these things. Um, and habitat helped to really pour all of that into you and showing you like you don't need anybody to to do these things for you. You can do them for yourself, including demoing an entire kitchen.

SPEAKER_03

Learning about your house and how to do all the fixing and yeah, there was um to really educate us.

SPEAKER_02

I had to take a whole semester of homeowner education classes, the sweat equity hours like demo day or paint day, um sweat equity hours on other people's houses too. So all of that definitely like you said, played into me realizing like I am I saying this right? Realizing that I could I really could do all of it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, definitely.

SPEAKER_03

Um I think you became that makes me want to cry. Secure in your potential, like you could see it then. Like we saw it, or like Habitat saw it, and we're like, here, let's move this direction as a group, and then you could see your potential.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I think it I never had um a supportive female figure in my life. And uh y'all are killing me. No, I'm sorry. I think just um that played a huge role in my building confidence in myself because I had so much love and support from both of you and um a lot of people behind the scenes too at Hope Ridge that I hadn't even met yet. Yeah. That were just rooting for me and really wanted the best for me and saw that potential in me. I would agree. And that you know, that really helped me grab a hold of it and just do all of the things with it. Yeah. And it's it really has transformed who I am as a as a person, as a mother, as a friend, as a child of God, all of the things.

SPEAKER_01

All of those things go together. Well, if you haven't seen it already on our social media pages, there is an incredible reel that was put together showcasing the day that Kat's Habitat home was dedicated. And uh one of the habitat staff members prayed a beautiful prayer over her home. And we were so fortunate to be there and just to celebrate that. And then we kind of all helped move her out of the Hope Bridge house and into her. I'm loving just like all the alliteration of Hope Bridge Habitat House. I love it from the Hope Bridge house to the habitat house. Um, and just kind of towards the end of her journey with us, you know, Jen and I have been in in the weeds with the single moms program. We've been in the game for a minute here. And uh Jen also has just so many wonderful giftings in her work with the community and donor relations and just outreach. We love Jen because she's someone that is not afraid for people to tell her no, which is my deepest fear. And Jen is just like, I don't care, I'll ask for whatever. You know, if they say no, they say no. Um, but so kind of through some of that, you know, we were kind of reaching a place where it was like, it we don't know if this is sustainable, if this is the best use of everyone's giftings, like man, what would it it look like to have someone else in this role kind of leading the single moms? And a big piece of of the rest of Hope Ridge as an organization, if you've been listening or been following us for a minute, you know our heart is for foster care and adoption. The majority of our staff have been personally impacted by foster care and adoption. We believe that helps us be approachable and relatable within the community. And so we kind of just started thinking about what does that look like with our single moms program? And what would it look like to have our graduate, Catherine, Kat, you know, kind of step into that role because Jen and I have said this a hundred times. We can sit across the table from a single mom and deliver exactly the same messaging that we gave you of here's what we'll do, and here's what you, you know, the opportunity that you can take hold of. But it would feel very different hearing that from someone who is living proof of what can happen on the other side of that. And it just felt like a no-brainer. Like we if it felt to me like we raised you, you know, we we trust you, and now we're like giving you the reins to kind of go. And it's literally like the Great Commission in action because we help to disciple you. Stop crying, Jen. I'm trying, I'm trying. And now you're gonna go and make disciples of the other single moms that we are still in community with and still working with. So you're now in this role, and we're super excited about it, and continuing to kind of help you just grow in your confidence now in a different way, but just kind of bring it full circle. Just what has all of this meant to you and what are your kind of hopes for the future with all of this?

SPEAKER_03

Well, I'll say before you answer, like, I honestly have seen you hit the ground running. I feel like you have reached out to those moms, you're already involved, and I've just seen the beauty of how they've responded to you. Because, you know, you have that too, you have that experience to give to them, plus the compassion of it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I I think that's um another hope for the future too, is that I can continue to make relationships with these women and um just continue the ones that I've already made. I also think that one of my hopes is that this program just continues to grow. Um, so I can, you know, with you guys reach more women who are standing in the position where I once stood. Um I just want a I want to create a space where women feel seen and heard, understood, supported, and empowered because that's everything that I had through Hope Ridge. You're doing it. Yeah, you are doing it.

SPEAKER_03

You are doing it.

SPEAKER_02

It just it makes all the difference in the world just to impact somebody's life that way. I just I want to be that that person for women coming in.

SPEAKER_01

And you will, you'll be there to walk with them and they'll see it and feel it. You give people hope for what is possible, which you know, no pressure, no pressure, our little gold star student just, you know, keep keep giving people hope, but it's the truth. It it really is the truth, and I know you were already becoming someone within this community that was mentoring to other moms and um just using your testimony to try to impact other people's lives, which is is beautiful to watch, and just letting God use that. We're already seeing fruit of that, and it's just gonna continue to grow and get better and better from here. So we'll we will link in the show notes the connection form to our single moms program. So any single moms checking out this episode, you can connect with Kat directly through through that, and then um one of the main initiatives of our single moms program is our Empower You Life Skills class. We will also link the sign-up for March because this episode is gonna come out at the very beginning of March. So we'll be talking about car care with uh a mechanics gonna come in and kind of walk us through some of that. So uh if you're checking this out and you are a single mom or you know someone that would benefit from that, please share the sign up with them.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Well, thanks for checking out this episode.