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Life After the Bar - Pim's Decision and Pattaya's New Ladydrink Prices
Leaving the bar life behind isn't just about changing jobs—it's about reclaiming your identity and charting a new path forward. In this candid conversation, Pim shares her journey of stepping away from Pattaya's nightlife scene after nearly two years to pursue her passion for Thai pop dancing and find authentic community connections.
The transition hasn't been without challenges. As Pim reveals, many misconceptions surround bar work in Thailand—what appears to outsiders as "easy money" actually involves grueling hours, emotional labor, and difficult customers. Her refreshing honesty about the realities of nightlife work provides rare insight into an industry often shrouded in stereotypes and misconceptions.
Cultural nuances take center stage as we explore the importance of personal boundaries in Thai society. From uncomfortable public displays of affection to respectful interactions, Pim's perspective highlights the often-overlooked cultural disconnects that shape experiences for both locals and visitors. This awareness becomes crucial for anyone hoping to navigate Thailand's social landscape with sensitivity and respect.
We journey through Pattaya's vibrant food scene, from 60-baht street food treasures to hidden Italian gems serving authentic Neapolitan pizza. These culinary adventures reveal a side of Pattaya that extends far beyond its nightlife reputation—a city rich with diverse dining experiences waiting to be discovered by those willing to explore beyond the tourist traps.
Perhaps most valuable is Pim's wisdom about personal balance and authenticity. Her reflections on knowing when to party and when to rest, when to engage and when to withdraw, offer universal lessons about sustainable happiness. As she puts it: "You can be anything and everything that you want. The key is knowing how to shift between different aspects of yourself."
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Hello everyone and welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. I'm Mike and sadly I'm still doing this without my lovely, lovely wife, Sunari.
Speaker 2:Hi everyone, I'm Pim. Nice to see you again. Welcome back to my Thai Wife Podcast. How are you doing, pim? I'm doing great, thank you. How about you? Always good, always, good, always.
Speaker 1:It was a week, a week yeah, two weeks already of a lot of fun. A lot of fun, many parties that I had.
Speaker 2:You had.
Speaker 1:I don't know where you have been to, but I had a lot of fun in the last two weeks. Great yeah, and I know for you. There was a lot of changes recently.
Speaker 2:Yeah, big, big change, some big changes, some big changes. Yeah, I just left work, I thought yeah everyone knows, I work in a bar. You used to work in a bar. I used to work in a bar before Now. I can't say yeah, you used to work in a bar, I used to work in a bar before Now. I can't say yeah, I'm, you got tired of it, tired. Can't say retired, retired, okay, no, no, no, this is what they say.
Speaker 1:You made enough money that you don't have to work anymore in your life. Not like that.
Speaker 2:But it's like, it's how they I mean like for ladyboys say ladies say like when you get someone take you out from the bar, so they say like retire, yeah, but I did not have anyone take me out of the bar.
Speaker 1:You took yourself out of the bar. I took myself.
Speaker 2:So this last two weeks, yeah, it's all like take a rest, chill out and stay. Stay in my space. Okay, get better get better dancing.
Speaker 1:I know, I know a lot of dancing that you did yeah, I just, I just did like in in next month.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we gotta in the mall, it's called North Pattia, okay, it's gonna have like a competition. Dancing competition, yeah, dancing competition. Okay. And I got like um direct from, uh, like a girl I I doesn't know her, but in the group from the Facebook about like cover dance or yeah, so I need to to the group yeah, to the group and she went to the group, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I try what it's I can say. It's the first time to do like Thai. How to say that? Like Thai pop dancing. Yeah, it's the first time to do like Thai. How to say that? Like Thai pop dancing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's not like the traditional Thai dancing. No, no, no. It's not like all those moves. Yeah, no, not like that. It's more like I would say you showed me a video. It's more like, I guess, k-pop.
Speaker 2:Similar Something between two K-pop yeah, yeah, but it's a little bit more calmed down than cable. Yeah, it's called like a pop pop side. Yeah, dance. So yeah, it's. It's so nice to you know like change, big change, like I move from nightlife and try to have yeah, you just yeah.
Speaker 1:Before you've been in the bar, you was working in the bar and you had the bar mindset right, I need to sell drinks, yeah, to find customer, yeah, sometimes short time, sometimes long time, and that was your mindset. And now you say, fuck it, I don't want to do that anymore, I'm going to do something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's, it's, it's like get fresh. You know like I did that for probably gonna be, like, oh, two years, almost two years, and I thought like it's time to change, I need to do something new.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, listen, that's for you, right? I know girls and ladyboys that work in the bar for more than 10 years. Yeah, I see In bars and they change bars sometimes, but normally this is the mindset that they are working at, right, they are used to the bar. Some of them even really enjoy the bar life. Some of them not all of them they like the drinking the partying.
Speaker 1:You know it's always interesting, always drama for people that like drama, and yeah. But you know it's always interesting, always drama for people that like drama, and yeah, but for you you chose a different path yeah, and that is just like um open, open to get new, new change to do.
Speaker 2:If you, if you would win the competition, you, you win money. Um probably get, yeah, we get like a team.
Speaker 1:Okay, like, uh, let's say, I'm just saying, let's say you have 10 000 each share between the twin, the team right like for for teams and stuff like here but this time I can say um did not do that for money of course no, I'm just asking because you said competition yeah I know you're doing it to have something to pass your time, to enjoy yourself. Yeah, and it's for fun, right, right, right. But when someone hears the word competition, you think, oh, there must be a prize involved?
Speaker 2:Right, exactly yeah. There's like a reward, yeah, reward, exactly yeah. Work hard and they get reward. I understand that way, but you know what? Yeah, you won't. Yeah, we're hard and they get reward. I understand that way, but you know what? Um, I can't say. I'm kind of how to say that like old, old, I mean like for the group oh, you're older than the other, yeah, okay they, yeah, they're just like a girl, like um high school girl, like Like 16, 17?.
Speaker 1:Like that. Okay, yeah, are you the only lady boy in that group?
Speaker 2:I have two lady boys, me and the other lady. But her older than me just a year, but she's also dancing, yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:We're dancing so we are kind of like a friend. Both of us like older Okay, you knew her before. No, us like older. Okay, you knew her before. Uh, no, oh, okay, you knew her from the dancing group.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, so I I can say like is this very, very excited too? Because I never. I never get how to say that like people ask me to enjoy, to do something with. Okay, that's maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe this is the first time maybe it's also a sense of community a little bit, that, something that all of your group share together. Yeah, you have everyone know their places.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right like that. But you know what? I did not have something like this for a long time, from when I'm just when I'm in school. So maybe this is how I'm, how I can feel like okay, I can be friends with them. Okay, but maybe that's that's the reason why before I'm, before I meet them, I feel like I did not have friends.
Speaker 1:Okay. Because maybe I try to have friends you mean in your personal life, or you mean also in the bar, for example. You don't have to be specific about people, but I mean like I don't know. For me, normally I separate my work friends from my friend friends.
Speaker 2:You know what I?
Speaker 1:mean, I see. This is why I ask for you. You had a problem in both of those departments in the workplace and in the personal life.
Speaker 2:I thought it's about like. I can say it's about like personal life. Ok, it's not a big problem for me, because my parent, my mom, I said, like you, you had yourself. Yeah, yeah, if you you had no have, I mean I mean like no one friend, but you still alive.
Speaker 1:You can make your life, you know like you're not dependent on, and they are in sorry on, anyone else. Yeah right, you know how to be with yourself and you're happy with yourself right.
Speaker 2:That's why I'm here like I'm. I say I can't say I'm a kind of introvert, okay, yeah, and did not like to. You know, like, get to other people first. I'm shy. Sometimes I could say not shy, but I'm scared, okay.
Speaker 1:I don't. I Know you for a bit. I don't think you're shy. Yeah, I think you do like to keep some things to yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah and like the wall quotation and this is like um for many years and I I'm open, yeah, I'm, you know like break rules and open for have friend youngest. First time I had like friend that young than me, okay, but you know like I'm very happy that's the same before. Like have friends same age, not really, but have like they are older than me, okay. So, it's just. It's just like a way of like drama, or I'm youngest and everything. I'm wrong because I'm youngest.
Speaker 1:And also everyone try to teach you, yeah, like they are smarter than you, but they don't really know their own answers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't really like that. I get that it's good to do. Okay, yeah, we're happy.
Speaker 1:Do you miss a little bit the bar life, like, is there anything you miss about the bar life? I gotta say like I'm not talking about the money, no, no no forget about the money. I mean the bar life is what people normally do in the bar. Do you miss anything about that?
Speaker 2:for me, for me, I'm missing about some good, some kind of good people in the okay, you know, like some, some they are just come to patria, I mean like they just come to the bar for work. They are new stuff yeah and I'm just like start to have conversation and we just know each other and they are so nice to me okay, but yeah, is it? What is it?
Speaker 1:I'm you know you don't miss the drinking, for example. No, I'm not the person for drink. And the people that, the foreigners that always come and try to grab your ass and grab your teeth, I guess you don't miss that, it's never happened, it's never get.
Speaker 2:How to say that? Like, get out in my mind, it's this thing, if I can say I didn't want to happen to myself, yeah, like to grab my ass or touch my. When, when, um, how? To say that when I'm feeling uncomfortable yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But if let's say there is a customer with you that you do feel comfortable and go alone, there is no problem, just not out in the street exactly, yeah, that's why, um, sometimes I said like, if you want this, if you before before I say to some customer before, like if you want to do kissing or touching, so you can sit inside, hide from people, yeah yeah, you can feel comfortable more. But yeah, some people do like open. You know they are open, but I'm not I understand that.
Speaker 1:I see how it can be. Well, can make you feel embarrassed, like I know. Especially in Asian countries, it's not very common to see people, for example, kiss on the street, right, yeah, hug sometimes you see, but kiss on the street, you never see. You never see grabbing and stuff like that. Yeah, there is a lot of respect for privacy here, right In all Asia by the way, it's not only in Thailand.
Speaker 2:Not only in Thailand. Yeah, yeah, so I could say it's about like culture.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like we are respect about each other. Yeah, really, because about like head or like head, or I say that like body. Yeah, it's just like I'm not not easy to you know, like touching or play with. Yeah, it's very different.
Speaker 1:Yeah from the, for example, europeans. There it's more common to see just people hugging, kissing the street, and you know, and it's more common to see just people hug and kissing the street, and you know, and it can be embarrassed also, like I personally, I don't mind, I'm used to it, you know. But I can understand where it comes from. But for me, I think you're lucky you left the bar life, for a few reasons. First of all, I don't think it's for everyone. I think the bar life suits people that are a bit different from you. Also, the drinking, many, many of the girls and ladyboys that walk long time in the bar become alcoholic. They become dependent. Many of them turn to drugs, right, yeah, yeah, I see. And I heard accusation, horrible accusation, about many people that everyone is using drugs. No, it's not true, not true, not true, not true I, I had before.
Speaker 2:It's like um have like some guys come to the bar just start to order, but before before they start the other drink, they asked me if you had drugs.
Speaker 1:By the way, guys, when we say drugs, we don't mean marijuana, we don't mean weed, we mean ice yaba the heavy stuff.
Speaker 2:So they say like ask, yeah, because they thought every ladyboy can find that for them.
Speaker 1:Well, actually it's true. It's true, Every ladyboy can find, but not every ladyboy use that.
Speaker 2:No, not really, yeah, and that's how no like what like um, what the do you want? Yeah like um, I can say, I say no first and then, like you know who had like. So if I say no, it's been like none, not everything, not do anything.
Speaker 1:But they try to, you know they try to To get some drugs out of you. Yeah, you can say that, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:But I feel like this. Maybe this is the reason why I'm.
Speaker 1:There's a like about bar life or night life and something like that it's more about night life than bar life, but I think it's very good you left that. It's not for you.
Speaker 2:You're not a party girl no, sometimes, but yeah, it's like depends on when I say you're not a party girl, don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:I don't mean you don't know how to party. I just mean that for you you want to party when you feel like party and you not have that energy all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not all the time. This is what I meant. Yeah, this depends on Friend. If no one asks me to go out, so just there.
Speaker 1:Can I ask you a bit more personal question? Mm-hmm, so right now you're not working. Yeah, right at the barrel. How do you make money? Um, of course I, I do like other, do like freelance okay, yeah, can you explain what is freelance for the people that don't know?
Speaker 2:For freelance. It's about like I can't say like sake, water, okay, yeah. So it's just like I have a guy I talk to and I ask to have a short time or a long time, or a long time or whatever, whatever, and I had the prize for for that already and and then you can choose if you want to meet them or not.
Speaker 1:Less happening about now. You have your choice, right.
Speaker 2:Um, not really. Um, I can't say. I'm not Usually about couple application. I mean like a um tie friendly or something like that to to have customer like like, you don't like that.
Speaker 1:You don't like tie friendly or grinder or whatever no, no, no, no I'm. I can't say I use it before, but that is like a many notification like this is annoying me and sometimes it's like bullshit thing of course, everyone see your pictures and you all the bullshit and I feel like why I should have this, have that, so I'm deleted, all okay so how do you meet guys now randomly in the street, or some guys that you know from before, before some?
Speaker 2:guy I know before. Okay, yeah, I can say I'm not well on the road yeah did you see that news?
Speaker 1:yes, the Israelis that had the fight with the ladyboys, you mean?
Speaker 2:that, yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw that. Believe me yeah.
Speaker 1:It's very shameful and I wish. I wish because I'm sure they were wrong not the ladyboys, I'm sure. So I hope the Thai government will do whatever they can in order to put some sort of punishment on these guys, because you cannot go fight around people, you cannot do that so yeah, and about like um, did you see like for last night, like it's um what happened last night?
Speaker 2:it's just like police. Yeah, cash out around like lady walk and the beach walk.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, they do that again. Yeah, they do that once every month oh so what we are talking about, just for the listeners to understand yeah when you go in the beach road at the night, there are many ladies and lady boys just, and ladyboys just standing there and looking for customers. Yeah, right, well, of course they can find some customers, but it's not really legal to do that. Yeah, and so once in a while, the police come and just sweeps and takes everyone that's walking there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, is this how, how I can say, is this what I can say for who working like sleepwalker or yeah, something like bar or nightlife. I thought like this could be like very hard, it is very hard.
Speaker 1:No one think it's an easy job. Well, maybe the foreigners, the farans, look and say, oh, it's an easy job. Well, maybe the foreigners, the Farans, look and say, oh, that's an easy job. She just has to sit, drink and fuck. Oh, very easy.
Speaker 2:No, it's not easy, not easy, not really.
Speaker 1:Some Thai people cannot speak English, and not around here only Thai people do it like this we have Lao people here and we have people from Cambodia yeah, many, many, many country, not not many, but um, yeah, so not like more.
Speaker 2:Then I can say, like it's not easy to to make money with. That in the way is like if you really you know, like you're very hard and you can have like more than five times in a day or ten, like you doesn't care how your body is, like I think also and this is just what I think.
Speaker 1:Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think it's much more easier for ladies to get money than ladyboys, because ladies, no one asks them to get hard and ladies just you know, just need to be there. But I guess with ladyboy let's say, a ladyboy had sex one hour ago or 30 minutes ago and now another customer come and want to have sex with her Sometimes she cannot perform.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sometimes it depends on like hormones it takes to be like lady and I can say it like yeah, about the price. We talked about it before. Yeah, yeah, but we can talk about it again. I think it's very interesting about it before. Yeah, yeah, but we can talk about it again. Yeah, like the price, like, yeah, people, I mean like for for the customer. They made like the standard for a lady, like pay lady more than ladyboy. So ladyboy working so hard get lazy money but lady doesn't do anything.
Speaker 2:I can't say do but just be lady.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And you know, so I can't say the ways. Maybe it just depends on what I mean, like what they would like to pay. Yeah. More than but the mosque. I see they make sand art sometime yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I get that, and you think you also think that ladies make more money than ladyboys. I mean per day, not in every encounter.
Speaker 2:For per day not really, but I can say like um, for each month. You know like a celery, we're in a go-go or somewhere like for each month. You know like a salary where in a go-go or somewhere like for a lady would be like a lot because FNC during FNC pay bar and you know whatever and some of them work with agency.
Speaker 1:yeah, and the agency pay a lot of money for beautiful girls. We know that, right, I will not say the name of the place, but I know one place that pay contract 12,000, 12,000 for 10 days for ladies. Oh my God, yeah, oh my God, which is a lot of money. And this is before the lady drinks, before the bar finds, before the customer's money. So those ladies, I guess, make a lot of money. Yeah, but this agency have only 10 out of 10. The most beautiful ladies you can find from this agency. And, by the way, one of my friends went to a bar. I will also not say this bar name. Yes, what was the price for a lady drink?
Speaker 2:What was the price for a lady drink Lady drink in that bar. For me I've been to this one before it's like a.
Speaker 1:No, no, yes, it's a new bar, it's open. One week ago my friend went there, really. And how much did they charge for a lady drink Three? 299 baht.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's about like 300 baht. Yeah, you were right.
Speaker 1:But it's the most expensive I ever heard. I never heard something like that Me also.
Speaker 2:But I can say like this is what I thought before. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you guessed it right. Yeah, so this is the way, like why I live from the bar?
Speaker 1:Because now business or camp for men maybe something like that just make the price for everything, yeah but now it's also low season, low season so sometimes in low season, the prices go down right, but right now I don't know what's going on. Yeah, and I heard many people say what the fuck? Who would pay $299 for a lady drink? $300 lady drink, yeah, but people pay.
Speaker 2:Oh because they would like to pay, yeah, but it's shocking. It's shocking. It's just like now. It's shocking. It's shocking. It's just like now. It's like they make standard if you have money, so you can do everything what you want. By the way, it's not even a go-go, it's a bar, not even a go-go, it's a bar, yeah. And if this happens to a go-go also, you know like, oh, how gonna fucking crazy it?
Speaker 1:No, but you know all the cheap Charlies in Pattaya. They are raging. Oh, now start $2.99. This means everywhere, soon $2.99. Everyone's so scared about it. All right, because they are the cheap Charlies. You know them and you know exactly who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I see, I see you know those guys that walk the balloon chasers.
Speaker 1:You hear this word before. No.
Speaker 2:So balloon chasers.
Speaker 1:I will explain. Balloon chasers is a term that we use to describe the expats, right, the people that already live in Thailand that every day they go out, look around where they see the bars with the balloons. Now, why do you think they do that? What Like out of the balloon? No, no.
Speaker 2:They go out to the street.
Speaker 1:They go out to the street and they only go to sit in bars where they have balloons outside. Why? Because free food. They know there is a party over there. I don't know what you mean. So they not eat outside, right? They not pay for food they want to get, so they just go where they have the balloons and eat for free.
Speaker 2:And these people, we call them balloon chasers okay, so I know now as a gleaming yeah, you hear that before it's wild.
Speaker 1:Huh, very good name for them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just better than sheep, surely?
Speaker 1:Yeah, the cheap Charlies are the cheap guys, but the balloon chasers? This is another level.
Speaker 2:It's another level, yeah.
Speaker 1:Don't be a balloon chaser, guys. You want to go somewhere, go. Don't go because there is a free food over there, because normally the food is not that good and it's very crowded and sometimes it's not really clean food not. I can say like before, like for food.
Speaker 2:The food itself is clean.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they put it on the table outside. It can be there for one hour to five hours.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, stay for long hours.
Speaker 1:The food is clean but but when you put the food outside it can get bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is what I mean, sorry.
Speaker 1:No, I don't want people to think, oh, the food in Thailand is not good. No, it's very clean, very good food.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, but in the first hour, so after that I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:The balloon chasers know that. This way, you know what's going on. The balloon chasers know that this way, you know what time normally you see balloon chasers yeah 7.30pm okay, cool, 7.30, 7.30pm.
Speaker 1:they go to the bar and start eating and they don't go to the bars with the pork outside because they don't like the pork. You know, sometimes in parties they bring the guy to barbecue the whole pork, the whole pork. The balloon chasers don't like that. They want the farang food, the Thai food. Yeah, they take plates and finish the plate and another plate, sometimes three plates. This is what they do.
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Yeah, I can say it's very, very smart to do, but not everywhere to have party, okay, and if you just go for food, seriously.
Speaker 1:Free food? Yeah, I get it. Listen. I don't know how many of our listeners know, but in Thailand, especially in Pattaya, the Thai food is extremely cheap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And as I said before in one of my previous episodes, I prefer to eat just from the carts that walk around in the street. It's the most clean food you can find. Yeah the most tasty, tasty food you can find normally not cost more than 60 baht no, and you.
Speaker 2:They did that time like fresh. Yeah, they cook it right in front of you. Yeah, order for cook.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's better, even than the restaurants, right, but those guys, as I told you before, even don't want to pay this money. They try to save every single, but they have, you know, I guess, to fuck their favorite girl, or whatever.
Speaker 2:I thought they still have to pay also for drinks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but you know what they do. They sit there for one hour. They buy one soda. Yeah, I know what you mean One soda. They ask three times bring me more ice, bring me more ice, bring me more ice. I understand, yeah, just drink the soda, eat the food and fuck off.
Speaker 2:Well, it just happened. I can't say it's happened one time before, like um don't say names, do not say any names, not names. But that time it's just like I'm working at a first-class work with and then have a party yeah, the pork, yeah, and then have some fun. Yeah, try to catch up like the pork. Have some friend. Yeah, try to catch up like pork in the box.
Speaker 2:Maybe have like for he tries to take really like a shoot hand, yeah, like catch from the to eat, like can I taste some? And yeah, have a. Have a lady boy. One lady boy say like this for us customer, yeah, and the guy like well, why not?
Speaker 1:I just want to try bullshit.
Speaker 2:Go in, buy a drink, you cheap motherfucker yeah, but yeah, that's that's what I gotta say. Like, yeah, it should like how to say that? Like, respect people, they are, did that for them. Yeah, them party. So this is how thai people do. Yeah, yeah, like um food. Is this not not easy to you know? Like sell or play food?
Speaker 1:very important for thailand but I I know, for example, in a recent birthday that me and you went together, there was a lot of food over there. There was a Thai food, there was Thai food and Frank food, mostly German food, which was okay some of it. But I think it's very nice to see this variety, because normally I remember like 10 years ago party, no one bring food, just the men with the pork outside, just the pork, and it's kind of boring Bore, yeah, it's kind of boring. And now and app has to alter that one.
Speaker 1:I think, yeah, but it's less expensive than paying for. I know in the last party we we went together, how much they pay for the food there. How much is it? So for the Thai food it was 6,000. For the Farang food it was 11,000. It's much more than a pig. Yeah, but why they did that? Because they wanted the variety. They wanted people to come and have the option to choose what they eat and not have only one dish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I see, but it's about like Thai food, everything is so. I can say like spicy.
Speaker 1:You don't eat that much spicy.
Speaker 2:Not really. I can say I'm in that party but I did not eat any Thai food.
Speaker 1:No, no, Fuck the party. I mean in general.
Speaker 2:In general. Yeah, I'm not like spicy food.
Speaker 1:So what is your favorite Thai food?
Speaker 2:Like basil fries, like stir fries, but non-chili.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:So some people do with chili.
Speaker 1:So you mean For normal Thai you?
Speaker 2:mean pad, you mean pat kapow. No chili, yeah, passive fries yeah with pork, with chicken, whatever but not chili.
Speaker 1:So what about? Sometimes you're not eating sometimes?
Speaker 2:sometimes so sometimes it's just like they usually do with papaya salad.
Speaker 1:Usually, but not mostly, it's called like a papaya. Yeah, I know some time with cucumber. I know that many sometimes so.
Speaker 2:I prefer cucumber.
Speaker 1:Really yeah.
Speaker 2:I prefer cucumber.
Speaker 1:That's funny because Lada, my previous co-host, also said fuck papaya, I want my some time with cucumber.
Speaker 2:Cucumber is just very fresh and feeling like cucumbers have a lot of water inside it, yeah, and the papaya is more dry yeah, papaya is more dry and you just leave that for 30 minutes it's just like completely dry. But cucumber, you can leave it for more than more than almost one hour, but you can eat some time with pala I do, but not with not done you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:They are make like, uh, the bottle, yeah, and I have like one bottle done, like they make it like build on, but another one not done, so you only eat it on. Yeah, like that. Some should probably say like not many times with that thing, but so yes, sometimes.
Speaker 1:And what is your favorite foreign food?
Speaker 2:foreign food, oh, you like foreign food Farang food, farang oh.
Speaker 1:You like Farang food yeah.
Speaker 2:I do, but what's about Farang food? What is your favorite? I can't say it Like normally.
Speaker 1:I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 2:It's in Italian, italian, italian Pasta. Okay, carbonara, okay, yeah, I love that one. So carbonara. Italian, italian, italian Pasta. Okay, carbonara, okay, yeah, I love that one. So carbonara. Yeah, okay, I can say I Try one time with Lasagna, I love it. You like the lasagna?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you don't find it too heavy After you finish it Because there is a lot of cheese inside, right. You don't feel yourself very heavy after you finish it Because there is a lot of cheese inside, right. You don't feel yourself very heavy after eating lasagna.
Speaker 2:I'm not finished at all, but I'm feeling like yeah, before I really enjoy food. I'm a foodie. I can't try many Because. I went to Italian food many times, you know, like on the beach road.
Speaker 1:I know which restaurant do you know? The glass house it's name glass near like nearby Hard Rock.
Speaker 2:Oh near Hard.
Speaker 1:Rock. I thought, yes, I know the place, I don't know the name. Yeah, it's a small place, yeah, small place.
Speaker 2:But inside it's like a. It's a small place, yes, but inside it's like a business, wonderful inside. Okay, I've never been there and you know like have um, um, really you know nice wine, okay, like correlating wine, so good, I've tried before and that's why it's expensive restaurant over there Is it and yeah, I try, hops also.
Speaker 1:Hops. I've never been to hops.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hops like.
Speaker 1:Hops is on the beach. Hold also on Soy 13? 13-1?, I don't remember.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 13. 13, yeah, yeah, I forget it.
Speaker 1:It's not on Soyamoto, right? Huh, it's not on Soyamoto. It's not on Soya Moto, right? Huh, it's not on.
Speaker 2:Soya Moto, it's before I forget it, okay, but anyway, it's just on a beach road and inside it's just like a yard. A yard, yeah, it has like a sign. Okay, it's a mini country and has a van.
Speaker 1:Live music. Live music. I guess not too loud.
Speaker 2:Not too loud, it's so nice and they.
Speaker 1:You went there with your Thai friends or some foreign, take you there.
Speaker 2:Some foreign. Okay, yeah, but you know that is about like inside. Inside they make it like yards and have live music and yeah, they show about like cheese or some beef.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh, you mean like cold plates?
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, and they have like a show. Oh, it's like a vitrina with food inside. Yeah, okay, and they have like a. They have like a for show.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's like a vitrina, yeah, with the food inside. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, so then you can buy it.
Speaker 2:No, I don't know what you can buy or not, but I see that they show like I've never been there.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm asking.
Speaker 2:How long they have this one and you know like the name of and you know, like the name, the name of the cheese or the meat, yeah, so what you ate them, what you eat them, I can't say I do, I'm not really know about you know, like the names, names like okay um, before the, the last time we talked with gion yeah. It's his news. For me, it's like a first experience to know about this, first time to know about this.
Speaker 1:I met Guillaume yesterday. He really enjoyed to be on the podcast and we might do another one with him. Great.
Speaker 2:I learned a lot from that because before I just do pork chop Easy. I don't know like what's about easy for others, but for me pork chop.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pork chop is very cheap also, so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but this is my favorite.
Speaker 1:You like pork chop?
Speaker 2:I do pork chop. I like pork chop.
Speaker 1:People like pork chop more. Have you tried the pork chop in the hideaway before Hideaway Hideaway, you know, in Sol Bumerang? No, so I've been there. Maybe five nights ago, I don't remember exactly I went with our mutual friend I will not say his name because we always go eat together, me and him right. So we went there and normally I eat the burger there or something like that, but I wanted something else, so I took a pork chop, right pork ribs. You, normally I eat the burger there or something like that, but I wanted something else, so I took a pork chop, right Pork ribs. You know, it came like this, this big it was for the listeners, I think it was like 12 inch, my God Cook, very good, okay, and how much do you think I paid?
Speaker 2:How is it Like five or 430.
Speaker 1:Oh 4, it Like five or Four hundred thirty.
Speaker 2:Oh, four hundred thirty, it's nothing. I said five. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:But I'm saying this is very cheap. Yeah, yeah, very cheap. I couldn't finish that. That was too much.
Speaker 2:This is, I guess, for two people, yeah, yeah, yeah, I can say like I'm a personal when I'm looking through it and sometimes I see appetizers. But I thought like, oh, probably appetizer, maybe quality appetizer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, there is quality appetizer, but it is not about that.
Speaker 2:It's about big. Of course, yeah, and cannot finish, but it's good.
Speaker 1:Tastes good. Yeah, have you tried the Portanova pizza before? I don't think so. Do you know where it is? You know where our mutual? Okay, I will not say that. I will just say it's on the third road when you go out from Soylinki. You turn right and it's right. There on the left it's a big pizza place called Portanova. There is a huge blue sign there.
Speaker 2:Maybe I will be looking for that yeah.
Speaker 1:One of the best Neapolitan pizza you can find in Pattaya. Not only my opinion, it's amazing. It's not that expensive. I think it costs about 350 for a pizza, for a whole pizza. Very tasty very good ingredients. Ingredients should we go together, then we can go together, no problem, I will take you there happily. Yeah, of course I think you would like it, you. You eat. You try neapolitan pizza before. So the difference is the dough right. It's much more fluffy, softly.
Speaker 2:Ah, softly.
Speaker 1:It's very thin pizza, but the outside crust is very fluffy, very tasty. Ah, I see, I see. And the ingredients. Amazing Really, I have nothing else to say. And, by the way, the owner there I don't know his name because I never spoke with him, but I know that he won many, many contests in italy before for pizza making and his speciality is non-gluten pizza non-gluten so it's very healthy also for people that have celiac or other gluten problems all right, all right, yeah, so to try I.
Speaker 2:You see, I'm staying here for almost over two years, almost two years, but yeah this is like yeah, but this is kind of a new place.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know how long they open, but before I came this time I never saw this place, and even I walked past. I didn't know about it until who you think recommended to me guillaume uh, yeah guillaume told me listen, you have to go there. He have a good taste, right yeah, I see, you have to go there. It's amazing. And he told me like five or six times until I listened to him. And I thank you, guillaume, if you listen. I appreciate your okay I will be thanks I will next.
Speaker 1:Yesterday we went to his restaurant. I took the steak and my friend took the beef tartare. Yeah, it was good, it was very good. By the way, a few nights ago I had the best not the best the craziest night I ever had in Pattaya.
Speaker 2:All right.
Speaker 1:Okay, so it was kind of boring at the beginning. We just sat in a bar with my friend he owns the bar and you know, until three in the morning 3.30, nothing happened, nothing special, but we got a little bit drunk. Yeah, I see, four in the morning the bar was almost empty. Yeah, so there was just the bartender, which is normally the bartender was doing the cashier work because the cashier wasn't there. All right, so the bartender takes more time to do that because she's not used to it, right, and she was a little bit drunk, so she's doing the cashier after the bar is closed. She has to check all the money and all the receipts and everything. And we are sitting with me, our mutual friend and a guy named Scott, which you might remember Scott, because he liked to wear high heels. He's a very tall guy with a beard Uh-huh, you know who I'm talking about and he wears high heels Always. He takes high heels from ladies and tries to dance. All right, I see you know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I think I remember who was it, but I don't know him.
Speaker 1:Okay, so only the three of us this time. He not wear the high heels and all of a sudden our mutual friend got angry with me. So he go to the back room and he took a fucking airsoft gun that shoot automatic right and start spraying the bar.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:Now bullets and it's ceramic bullets flying everywhere. He hit nothing because he was drunk, obviously, and then he ran to load the magazine. I followed him, I opened the door and I took another airsoft that there is in the bedroom. But a single shot one and he starts spraying again right and bullets flying all over. By the way, the cashier for that day didn't even notice, she was so drunk, she just yeah, her just threw us at her he tried to shoot me.
Speaker 1:He missed. I shot one shot, hit his arm. The second shot shot he's the other arm and he's still still spraying. Right, yeah, I shot him in the cheek. I didn't meant to shoot him in the cheek, yeah, but I shot him in the cheek and all of a sudden he started what the fuck? And blood was gushing out of his face, a lot of of blood Right. Then he ran again. He wanted more bullets, my God. He started spraying. So I gave the gun to Scott Scott, shot him in the stomach. He got angry, sprayed Scott Scott got hit Two shots in the chin. Now Scott is bleeding also. Oh, my God. And there is blood all over the bar. Okay, uh-huh. And there is blood all over the bar. Okay, all over the bar.
Speaker 1:Then everyone decided enough is enough. We put all the guns back and then we said okay, what now? And, by the way, again the cashier doing nothing. Scott went out, started throwing up. He was drunk and also he was shocked from the blood. He was just started throwing up. Me and our mutual friend think okay, what now? Let's go juju, which is the worst idea to do when you are drunk, right? So we went to juju we met with Scott. So our mutual friend and Scott bleeding all over. They are keep bleeding. We are going inside juju I don't know why they let us inside Bleeding, bleeding, bleeding, bleeding. Then we meet greg greg that was on the podcast last time. Yeah, greg was there with his friend and we are dancing and having fun and everything. Okay, juju is dead right. We went after juju. Our mutual friend was so drunk he couldn't walk home. I put, put him on a motorbike taxi. Someone that knew him took him home. Me and Greg. Fuck it, let's go. We went to the tomboy club.
Speaker 1:We are in the tomboy club dancing with the tomboy, having fun until 9 in the morning, and then I was so drunk I just went to sleep but if I know really that time it's not the same day, not the same day, not the same day, not the same day.
Speaker 2:Ok, cool yeah.
Speaker 1:I know the last time we were supposed to go together to the tomboy club and you fell asleep. I don't know. I don't know what happened, but you were supposed to meet me there right so it's not the same day. This is the day of the party. What I'm telling you about that we were supposed to go together. This is another day all right but it was a crazy night and, by the way, it was scott's last night, so think of his experience I was sitting in a bar. All of a sudden they start blasting.
Speaker 2:Sorry, this is what I'm, maybe last, but like what is next, go to Jew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but this is the problem. And, by the way, if the owners of juju listening okay, you fucked it up. It used to be a good place to go. It used to be fun. Now it's boeing full of old ladies, old freelancers, yeah, and it's not fun anymore. Bring back the ladyboys there. It used to be so much fun Right, and this is why everyone go to Epic now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because now I can't say like I've been in Epic before, Of course you've been to Epic?
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Epic is not only for ladyboys. It's a mixed bag, like Juju used to be. You can go there, find beautiful ladies, beautiful ladyboys.
Speaker 2:It's just about like you know these beautiful ladyboys. It's just about like I can't say For Epic. It's like push you out, play pool and you know, like for chat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but it's still a club. There is music you can dance and you know what time they close. Epic, secret, secret, it's a secret. I will not say anything more but Epic, we love you guys.
Speaker 2:so yeah, and for me I prefer Epic for meet my friend like girl, my friend, the girl we are talking.
Speaker 2:By the way, epic also excites, yeah like not really far, just walking up for, yeah, one minute and then you turn right yeah, and then left yeah just like for one minute and you arrive, but you have to looking if you're still can have eye contact from to do out, to see the light in the morning. Yeah and yeah I can say for now, leigh Boy, the most Leigh Boy, would like to shoot out, so would like to shoot out, so they like to go to Epic, epic and the Thai Club. Is this the Thai Club? Is this?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's kind of like have two, I don't remember the names.
Speaker 2:Yeah but is this around like Exide? No, no, no, no, no. Where?
Speaker 1:Third Road. Third Road, down, down. You need to ask the cashier next time. Okay, because they go there all the time. I don't remember the name, but it's a Thai club, you know, just Thai music, ah.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, is it Luffin Isan?
Speaker 1:Yeah, philippine Isan yeah, yes.
Speaker 2:Isan Isan, artist. Yeah, yeah, I've been there before you like it. I like when I see my friend dancing.
Speaker 1:I understand. You don't have to say anymore. It's very obvious what you're talking about. By the way, I want to hear what is your most crazy night in Pattaya that you had. When I say crazy, I don't mean bad crazy, I mean good crazy, good crazy is it?
Speaker 2:oh god, I'm, I can't say, I'm not a person drunk to you don't have to be drunk, but the crazy night is it about I'm?
Speaker 2:We met a guy, okay, with Aussie guys, aussie, okay, I can say I'm looking normally, yeah, like daytime outfit, no makeup, with long nails and that was her nails, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know, like, like ringing the bell my bar, ringing the bell the bar where before, and dancing in the pole dance and my nail, one of your nails, yeah, my nail is break out. Okay, I don't think I care about it, I'm dancing because I'm so drunk. I got like 10. It's called like Jacob bomb, but it is a chicken, my sir. Yeah, chart with energy drink.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's Jacob, jacob, oh, yeah, so.
Speaker 2:I had that day, I had okay first ever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're not a drinker, I know you. I bet you were fucked up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those juggles, yeah right, I had a fight with that guy.
Speaker 1:Not fighting, not boxing, not boxing, but Just argument.
Speaker 2:Yeah, argument and finish with like I'm hungry, You're hungry, Okay, we eat.
Speaker 1:That's it, you know like. So, after all this crazy night, you had a fight, you have an argument.
Speaker 2:And then you just say fuck the argument, let's go eat. Yeah, like that, because we know each other, we are hungry and we know like um so five in the morning you go eat somewhere something like that, maybe early more. And the second is is this not like crazy, very crazy, but I'm chatting my friend to me up in a big bar.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:And her just come and drink this field drink like one or two drinks and her leave me alone.
Speaker 1:So you stay there long.
Speaker 2:And then let her be back. Yeah, Maybe not that time, but I'm stay there and I feel like it's not bad to be here because it's very chill, not that many people, yeah, sitting play games.
Speaker 1:Other you know like button there and yeah, that's also expensive, though you know that would probably 150 like that, yeah, but that and that time I'm bring it out for them they had just three or four people. You rang the bell yourself. I said like I give you all, everyone's ring but doesn't ring a bell.
Speaker 2:No, because I'm doesn't like to make a sound.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you just want to give them drink.
Speaker 2:Yeah, make the scene yeah, for two times, everyone two times, and they give me free, of course, another and free and I was like no one with me, but I play pool for like four or five games and yeah this is what we spoke in the beginning of the episode.
Speaker 1:You know how to have fun alone yeah, you don't need someone to support you. You can enjoy yourself by yourself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right then, and that's how I can say, yeah, I'm through it all, but but I can back to my home by my own with really horrible I can't imagine like be like that they're drunk.
Speaker 1:He's very, very drunk, yeah, and still be okay enough to go home I think it's no, no, no man looking at me at all.
Speaker 2:She looked pretty. I don't think so. It's like terrible and messy hair okay, I will. I will say nothing, go on, and it's how, how I'm crazy in bataya, but everything I did is safe and I'm enjoying that. That's good and this is your style of fun. That's perfect. Yeah, because happy like a happy in a time, you know, like just just focus on happiness in that time and if you're finishing, cut and then you're back to the real.
Speaker 1:You mean not stay stuck on that.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:If you're stuck on that, you're going to be like I know people that are stuck on party mode for a long time, and I'm talking about another mutual friend of ours, another bar not so far from our friend's bar. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, yeah, the guy that always like to show his I will not say his name um he's stuck on a party mode right, he's.
Speaker 1:He's stuck on party mode all the time. Yeah, party, party, party, party, drinking. I see I love this guy, right, he's one of my best friends here, but drinking party, party, party. I see I love this guy, right, he's one of my best friends here, but he's, you cannot be on party mode 24 7. You have to know to set the balance. By the way, this is why I really respect some of the guys that I met on this time, because they are the guys that stay here a long time right, and they know I go out one time every week.
Speaker 1:I go out one time every week. I go out two times every week Maximum. This is the rule. Yeah, they don't go out every day party every day.
Speaker 2:You can't go out and, by the way, don't get me wrong Some of those guys when they go out, they are fucking partying, you know they are having fun. Yeah, for example, I will say his name Like our friend Sam.
Speaker 1:I will say his name. Like our friend Sam, he's out, he's partying, he's having fun, he's enjoying himself, but he knows that sometimes. No, that's my day off. I will stay home, I will just relax, I will do normal stuff, I will cook to myself. I don't have to be on party mode all the time Right, right.
Speaker 2:It has to be like that.
Speaker 1:If you're being like that, and you know you're being like that. You can't stop yourself.
Speaker 2:You have to think about like okay, maybe you are um alcoholism or um you are it's not only that, it's the adrenaline.
Speaker 1:Think about it you're getting addicted to party.
Speaker 2:Yeah party to enjoy all the time then you sit home five minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh it's, it's boring, it's boring. They cannot watch a movie, they cannot read a book, they cannot do anything because everything is boring for them. They need adrenaline all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Like um.
Speaker 2:Excitement, yeah, excitement and energy, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know like sometimes it's just about personal. I can't say like I am. I am a person like when I lose energy, I lose, like lose, and I need like long time for it. How do you?
Speaker 1:recover your energy normally one day. No, no, not how fast what you do in order to recover, not how long how long, not how long, what you do to recover your energy like what is your routine you know, it's easy it's just just lay down on bed watching series or play game you're not doing stuff for yourself like I don't know, make yourself look feel more pretty, I don't know. Skincare or this, or for you, just fuck it. I want to lay down on bed, fart, watch movie and that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm an easy person, okay, and yeah, it's like, it's how I'm, how I'm recovering my energy and it needs a long time, okay, but when I'm spending my energy, I spend it all, like, like you know, a lot of energy I have, yeah and when you're there, you're older yeah, yeah, it's like um, you guys have a person, like two character in the one person.
Speaker 2:I can't say I'm, I'm, I do, like that but and don't think that is a problem because is it? Both of this part is me, yeah, and yeah, I know I do this, I get that.
Speaker 1:Listen, you call it a split personality, but I don't think you have split personality. I just think you know your moods right and you can be in party mood, you can be on a relaxation mood and it's totally yes, you act totally different yeah, everyone have this yeah, everyone had this.
Speaker 2:So is this okay to be like this? If you're happy with that, you just do that, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1:I think the most, the biggest problem that people have is they, as we said before, they don't know how to be with themselves. They think, oh, people see me as this guy, it doesn't matter, but I'm the camping guy or I'm the barbecue guy, this is me. No, we can be anything and everything that we want. We need to know how to shift between that. And then you find yourself I personally, I can be anything and everything that we want. We need to know how to shift between that. And then you find yourself I personally, I can be anything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you also you can be everything. So, like, make it balance and and yeah, like I did, I move from bad life. Yeah, I mean like part of it, and then I can do other things. Yeah and yeah, just make it balanced. So first I can say I'm doing balance, that like I have nightlife and daylife together, and I thought like it just take a lot of energy I have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because in the bars you have some time to walk until four in the morning if you don't get bathed, fine, and you have to start at eight, right, and let's say you go sleep. Let's say you go sleep five in the morning.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Which you never go sleep five in the morning, right, you normally go sleep seven or eight or nine, sometimes Probably yeah, and then you don't have time because you wake up at 6, you have to put makeup, you have to get ready and go work?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I had to go practice around like 1pm, finish like 5 or 6. It's crazy. Yeah, and I'm back to the room. Like had to have an hour for take shower. Finish, get ready. Yeah, but if you do like that, that means you slept only 4 hours, yeah, so I'm trying to balance that, but I can't say it doesn't work. So that's why I left from nightlife. It's okay, it's okay. I think it's just good to try a new thing. You, I think you are connected.
Speaker 1:Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you are very connected to your inner self. You are connected Tell me if I'm wrong, but I think you are very connected to your inner self and you know what you need. And right now you said yeah, I don't need the bar life, I just need to focus on myself, do what I want to make myself feel better and fuck it. Fuck everything.
Speaker 2:Everyone can do whatever they want. Yeah, so it is like speaking human, in my opinion, like trusting yourself, like you tell me before, and just let anyone, like um, make your mind change. If you're thinking that it would be good for you to try, just do that. And, and that's the thing, what people gonna say fuck.
Speaker 1:What people gonna say yeah, what people think about you, be yourself, just make sure you're being a good person, yeah make sure you're a big gay person and you doesn't hurt anyone. So you can do as long they not hurt you, remember, as long they not hurt you first.
Speaker 2:So yeah, they know who I am and they know what I can do if they hurt me. First, pim the boxer.
Speaker 1:Everyone heard that story before.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's why.
Speaker 1:Next time on the podcast we are going to talk about that story because I think it's a very funny story. We will save it for the next episode. Yeah, of course, but Pim used to box before Yep, she was a boxer, I'm waiting for next.
Speaker 1:Anyway, guys, I think we reached the one hour mark, so I think we will call it down. First of all, pim, I want to thank you Always a pleasure. Thank you so much and we are going to get, I think, two guests for next week, so it's going to be fine. Another thing, guys I added a link in the show notes that you can show us your support by subscribing to us. Right, you don't get anything out of it, I'm telling you, right now, there is no extra content or anything, but it will be a huge help for us because right now, we have to change some equipment and every single bat that you donate to us is matter. Also, if that's too hard for you, please, guys, if you can just like and subscribe, especially on Spotify and Apple and YouTube. We don't use YouTube that much. We are on YouTube, all our episodes on YouTube, but the biggest support that you can do is just subscribing. Yeah, apple or Spotify or wherever you listen.
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Speaker 1:how's about maybe episode 95? With you? Yeah, this is the fifth one. And we are having a lot of recording next week, I think.
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