The Workplace Was Built for Men. Here’s How Women Win Anyway—with Kae Kronthaler-Williams

Have you ever left a meeting thinking, What did I do wrong?
You weren’t unclear. You weren’t “too emotional.” You weren’t the problem.

In this episode, Betsy sits down with Kae Kronthaler-Williams—C-suite leader, B2B software marketing executive, and author of Not Made for You—for a real conversation about what so many women feel but struggle to name: the workplace is still running on systems designed without women in mind.

Together, they unpack the subtle patterns that chip away at credibility: being talked over mid-sentence, watching your idea get praised when someone else repeats it, and having your expertise second-guessed in real time. Kae shares the exact calm, strategic scripts she’s used to take back control in the room—without apologizing, over-explaining, or shrinking.

You’ll also learn:

• How to handle “You’re not ready” and demand clarity you can measure
• Why sponsorship (not mentorship) changes everything—and how to earn it
• How to build powerful internal and external networks without “working the room”
• The mindset shift that makes you unstoppable: you’re the CEO of your career

If you’ve been carrying the weight of “maybe it’s me,” this episode is your reminder: the struggle isn’t personal failure—it’s a signal for change. And you have more agency than you think.