{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":0.02,"endTime":3.2,"body":"Welcome to the Deficient Vegans Podcast. This is episode 61."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3.2,"endTime":5.45,"body":"I'm the muscle-deficient vegan here with the protein-deficient vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5.45,"endTime":7.71,"body":"Do you want to say hi? Hi! Hi, everybody."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":8.18,"endTime":10.99,"body":"So this week, we're going to have a replay of one of our favorite episodes,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":10.99,"endTime":12.74,"body":"which was Going Vegan 101."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":13.76,"endTime":15.89,"body":"That'll be the main segment. It might be slightly different,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":15.89,"endTime":16.69,"body":"some different editing."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":16.69,"endTime":18.88,"body":"We've learned a little bit about how to edit things since then,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":18.88,"endTime":19.93,"body":"so it probably sounds a little better."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":19.93,"endTime":23.31,"body":"Overall, it will be a good episode to maybe share with somebody who's thinking"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":23.31,"endTime":27.66,"body":"about going vegan, or if you're a new vegan, maybe some reinforcement, pick up a few new things."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":27.66,"endTime":30.26,"body":"It's kind of overwhelming at first, so you probably don't remember everything"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":30.64,"endTime":33.63,"body":"right off the bat. Some tips and tricks for the things you might need to know"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":33.63,"endTime":35.9,"body":"as a new vegan. But first up, new news."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":35.9,"endTime":37.45,"body":"New news."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":37.45,"endTime":39.52,"body":"So our first story here is about methane."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":39.52,"endTime":40.6,"body":"Methane."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":40.6,"endTime":44.08,"body":"That's the cow fart thing, right? It is, yeah. That's all I remember ever hearing"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":44.08,"endTime":46.07,"body":"about it in the news was cow farts."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":46.07,"endTime":46.72,"body":"That makes sense."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":46.72,"endTime":50.74,"body":"Yeah. So an organization called the Robertson Foundation has invested $19 million"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":51.16,"endTime":54.39,"body":"in six different organizations that are working to reduce methane emissions"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":54.39,"endTime":58.5,"body":"from the food system by moving towards plant-based foods and reducing food waste overall."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":58.5,"endTime":61.47,"body":"The six organizations they're working with are the Tilt Collective,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":61.73,"endTime":65.37,"body":"the American Heart Association, the World Resources Institute,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":65.51,"endTime":69.92,"body":"World Wildlife Fund, Full Circle Future, and Zero Food Waste Coalition."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":69.92,"endTime":72.74,"body":"Wait, isn't the World Wildlife Fund the one where you can buy,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":72.74,"endTime":75.14,"body":"like, really cute stuffed animals?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":75.49,"endTime":78.26,"body":"Yeah, I think that's been their main way to get money forever."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":78.26,"endTime":79.7,"body":"Well, they've gotten some money from me."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":81.02,"endTime":83.14,"body":"I don't know if that's actually true, but yeah, they do sell the stuffed animal."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":85.04,"endTime":87.15,"body":"it's pretty cool I've seen them for a long time they've always got like the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":87.15,"endTime":88.62,"body":"pandas in their pictures and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":88.62,"endTime":90.06,"body":"Yeah I think I got you some of the monkeys"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":90.06,"endTime":93.34,"body":"Once yeah I think that's right yeah they're just so cute,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":94.0,"endTime":97.5,"body":"Yeah, so the World Wildlife Foundation, Zero Food Waste Coalition,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":97.5,"endTime":100.99,"body":"and the Full Circle Future are reducing food waste overall."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":100.99,"endTime":104.06,"body":"Like we talked about in our last episode, one-third of all food in the U.S."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":104.06,"endTime":109.33,"body":"is never eaten. Which is a crazy statistic. Yeah, so any reduction on that is a good goal. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":110.85,"endTime":114.81,"body":"Tilt Collective and the World Resources Institute are working to increase access"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":114.81,"endTime":118.72,"body":"to plant-based proteins at universities, hospitals, stadiums, and restaurants."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":119.31,"endTime":120.38,"body":"That seems like a good thing."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":120.49,"endTime":121.03,"body":"Definitely."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":121.67,"endTime":125.26,"body":"stadium is a big one i know anytime you go to a sports event there's like very few."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":125.26,"endTime":128.72,"body":"Options oh yeah or like going to a concert there's virtually none apparently"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":128.72,"endTime":132.1,"body":"billie eilish offered a bunch during her last concert round oh"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":132.1,"endTime":132.66,"body":"That's pretty cool."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":132.77,"endTime":135.3,"body":"Maybe i think maybe it was all plant-based i read something about that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":135.3,"endTime":139.34,"body":"I remember seeing like she basically was a requirement of her venue or something like."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":139.34,"endTime":143.97,"body":"That yeah very cool i remember uh i had my appendix out and there was like nothing"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":143.97,"endTime":148.9,"body":"i could eat at the hospital oh yeah that was like several years ago maybe like a decade ago yeah"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":149.3,"endTime":152.9,"body":"but yeah i think like the only thing i could eat was yogurt and i was vegetarian"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient 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you're"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":171.46,"endTime":174.11,"body":"like oh i can only eat this and this and this that you have on your menu so."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":174.11,"endTime":178.91,"body":"Which is like i mean there's so many health benefits from going vegan and going"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":178.91,"endTime":183.45,"body":"plant-based rather it's like it's a little ironic to me that hospitals wouldn't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":183.45,"endTime":188.7,"body":"have a very large selection of plant-based options since it's like one of the most healthy diets"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":188.87,"endTime":189.95,"body":"Yeah it is surprising."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":189.95,"endTime":193.66,"body":"It's just odd to me and then i think you know i'm sure universities are doing"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient 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like their bread with just a bunch of vegetables and mustard on it"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":220.12,"endTime":223.38,"body":"yeah yeah but you're always like no i'm not yeah eating that again a."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":223.38,"endTime":228.89,"body":"Little bit of ptsd it was like okay um we also had"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":229.54,"endTime":233.66,"body":"papa john's yeah there was like a mini papa john's inside of our little food"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":233.66,"endTime":238.7,"body":"court area but you could also use your like money your food money"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":239.22,"endTime":243.04,"body":"because you had to have a certain amount of money in your whatever like food"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":243.04,"endTime":246.43,"body":"allowance thing just to live on campus right um"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient 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I don't know what I would have eaten as a vegan. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":270.23,"endTime":272.33,"body":"So hopefully these organizations can help with that kind of thing."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":272.33,"endTime":273.34,"body":"Yeah, that would be nice."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":274.38,"endTime":277.53,"body":"Yeah. And then last up, the American Heart Association is going to help consumers"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":277.53,"endTime":280.35,"body":"add plant-based meals to their diets through easy recipes, tools,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":280.35,"endTime":282.73,"body":"and guidance, which obviously their goal is heart health."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":282.73,"endTime":284.51,"body":"So that's very cool. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":284.51,"endTime":289.06,"body":"So yeah, methane in general is bad. It's bad, bad, bad, bad. What makes it bad?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":289.48,"endTime":292.73,"body":"Well, I don't know if you know this, but as a greenhouse gas,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":292.73,"endTime":299.85,"body":"methane is actually 28 times more powerful than CO2 on a 100-year timeline and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":299.96,"endTime":303.23,"body":"80 times more powerful than CO2 on a 20-year timeline."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":303.23,"endTime":305.93,"body":"Yeah, it's surprising we don't hear more about methane. I mean,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":305.93,"endTime":308.73,"body":"like I said, we used to hear about it kind of a lot. And we hear about CO2,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":308.73,"endTime":310.41,"body":"carbon capture kind of stuff all the time."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":310.91,"endTime":314.96,"body":"I know like we had the thing when I was growing up was like the hole in the ozone layer."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":315.36,"endTime":318.56,"body":"Yeah, stop doing hairspray. Right. It was like the thing I remember."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":318.78,"endTime":322.56,"body":"But yeah, so Hairspray, getting rid of like the aerosol cans and stuff was apparently"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":322.87,"endTime":325.67,"body":"seen as like one of the biggest victories of like the world coming together"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":325.67,"endTime":328.69,"body":"on an environmental cause. And we can't just ever seem to do that again."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":328.83,"endTime":332.4,"body":"Yeah. But it like, you know, really repaired a lot of the hole in the ozone"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":332.4,"endTime":334.35,"body":"issue just by getting rid of the aerosols and stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":334.68,"endTime":336.26,"body":"We just need to get rid of the cow farts."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":336.26,"endTime":336.48,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":337.39,"endTime":340.76,"body":"That was before, like, every environmental thing was a government conspiracy"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":340.76,"endTime":342.66,"body":"or whatever the current line of thinking is."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":342.88,"endTime":345.78,"body":"Right, yeah, back when people believed science and scientists."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":345.78,"endTime":350.57,"body":"Yeah. Yeah, those were nice times when people believed scientists. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":351.01,"endTime":355.38,"body":"So the EPA says that researchers have found that 37% of methane emissions from"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":355.38,"endTime":358.86,"body":"human activity are the direct result of our livestock and agriculture practices."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":359.12,"endTime":361.45,"body":"Yeah, so it seems like this is what we should be targeting, right?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":361.45,"endTime":364.64,"body":"Yeah, room for improvement. The next piece of news we have is about a mushroom farm."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":364.64,"endTime":368.7,"body":"Ooh, I am always excited to hear any news about any kind of mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":368.7,"endTime":370.97,"body":"Yeah, you do like mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":370.97,"endTime":372.0,"body":"I love mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":372.0,"endTime":374.95,"body":"I also like mushrooms. I know you do. Most of them. I got the weird thing with"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":374.95,"endTime":377.35,"body":"lion's mane where if I take it more than a couple days in a row,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":377.35,"endTime":379.75,"body":"I start getting a little dizzy. I'm not exactly sure what that's about,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":379.75,"endTime":381.48,"body":"but luckily I don't come across that much."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":382.06,"endTime":382.66,"body":"Not amazing."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":384.39,"endTime":387.22,"body":"So a family has transferred their former animal factory."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":387.76,"endTime":391.63,"body":"Which, okay, yeah, animal factory, maybe you haven't heard this new term,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":391.63,"endTime":396.5,"body":"But I stalk the shit out of Faunalytics and keep up to date on everything they post. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":396.82,"endTime":401.93,"body":"And so I guess they did some kind of research on like which terms are most effective."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":402.33,"endTime":409.61,"body":"And industrial farming was like the least effective as far as a very strong"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":409.61,"endTime":411.47,"body":"reaction from omnivores that heard the word."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":411.47,"endTime":411.79,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":412.08,"endTime":417.0,"body":"So, yeah, industrial farming doesn't seem to have the reaction, right? Okay. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":418.18,"endTime":421.64,"body":"Factory farming gets a pretty good reaction, like, oh, that seems bad."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":422.24,"endTime":425.82,"body":"But apparently animal factory is actually worse, and people still know what"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":425.82,"endTime":430.6,"body":"the hell that means. So, yeah, maybe we should be switching towards animal factory."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":430.82,"endTime":433.77,"body":"Maybe, yeah. I can see why industrial farming, that kind of just makes you think,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":433.77,"endTime":436.21,"body":"oh, they use, like, big tractors and commodities and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":436.64,"endTime":439.42,"body":"But, yeah, animal factory, I mean, kind of sounds like somewhere where you're"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":439.42,"endTime":442.96,"body":"building animals a little bit. Which, you know, not far off."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":442.96,"endTime":444.06,"body":"Yeah, that's interesting."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":444.06,"endTime":446.04,"body":"I actually think it's a pretty good term for it, so."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":446.17,"endTime":450.92,"body":"Yeah. And I think it also focuses on the animals because factory farming is"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":450.92,"endTime":453.04,"body":"also like the factory agriculture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":453.04,"endTime":453.65,"body":"Exactly."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":453.65,"endTime":454.62,"body":"Yeah, it's interesting."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":454.62,"endTime":458.3,"body":"Yeah. So we are probably going to try saying animal factory more."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":458.76,"endTime":463.41,"body":"And you should too. Let's try it out. But yeah, so this former animal factory"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":463.73,"endTime":468.76,"body":"was specifically a concentrated animal feeding operation that farmed 8,000 pigs per year."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":469.68,"endTime":472.78,"body":"And now they've turned it into a specialty mushroom growing operation."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":472.78,"endTime":474.51,"body":"Very, very cool."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":474.51,"endTime":474.89,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":475.2,"endTime":480.0,"body":"The 1100 farm is located in Radcliffe, Iowa, which I guess is like one of the"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":480.0,"endTime":485.22,"body":"biggest, Iowa is one of the biggest states for factory farms in the country."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":485.22,"endTime":487.98,"body":"Pig farms specifically, we were talking about that, our pig farm. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":488.28,"endTime":490.89,"body":"Anyways, the mushroom farm is currently thriving."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":492.15,"endTime":497.59,"body":"They worked with an organization called Transfarmation Project, which I knew you would."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":499.54,"endTime":504.46,"body":"But the Transfarmation Project partners with farmers to support their transition"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":504.46,"endTime":506.44,"body":"from livestock to plant-based agriculture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":506.83,"endTime":511.03,"body":"And it's run by the nonprofit Mercy for Animals. Okay. So very cool."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":511.03,"endTime":513.85,"body":"If that's something interested to you, you should go support them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":514.72,"endTime":517.87,"body":"I thought it was cool. It reminded me of, I don't remember which documentary"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":517.87,"endTime":521.95,"body":"it was. there was a documentary we watched for like a vegan documentary where"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":521.95,"endTime":525.01,"body":"the guy was like a partner with"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":525.42,"endTime":525.69,"body":"One of the."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":525.69,"endTime":529.93,"body":"Chicken one of the major chicken farmers yeah and he was like they basically"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":529.93,"endTime":534.93,"body":"subcontract out people like smaller farms to like and but then they have to basically do whatever"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":536.05,"endTime":539.22,"body":"the large company says which is what i was reading about this pig farm too is"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":539.22,"endTime":543.57,"body":"like they were having to report up to like yeah the the major pig farm"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":544.05,"endTime":548.1,"body":"organization right so they have to basically do everything they say and do it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":548.1,"endTime":551.89,"body":"every way they want and i guess it's pretty stressful in general the article"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":551.89,"endTime":555.51,"body":"Was saying like there was a big mental toll yeah and like having to be basically"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":555.95,"endTime":557.61,"body":"driven by the way they want you to."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":557.61,"endTime":563.41,"body":"Do yeah you have an evil overlord right telling you to do things their way extra evil so"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":564.77,"endTime":568.84,"body":"but that was the same with the the chicken farmer in the documentary and basically"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":568.84,"endTime":575.23,"body":"he transformed um his like big ass chicken barn into a mushroom growing place so"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":575.55,"endTime":578.23,"body":"And this is kind of the same thing yeah i said they i think it said they had"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":578.23,"endTime":579.87,"body":"two big barns that they used for"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":580.25,"endTime":584.83,"body":"um pigs and i guess 1100 farms was originally named because there were like 1100 pigs per"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":585.15,"endTime":588.1,"body":"barn or whatever yeah but anyway now they don't do the pigs anymore and they"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":588.1,"endTime":591.36,"body":"turned one of the barns completely into like a mushroom growing operation they've"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":591.36,"endTime":595.8,"body":"got lion's mane mushrooms some like rare oyster mushrooms and some other things like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":596.49,"endTime":601.78,"body":"All the cool shit yeah yeah so um i think it was a quote from the sun maybe"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":601.78,"endTime":603.22,"body":"but he was basically saying like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":604.16,"endTime":607.14,"body":"You know, our families, like, we're not a bunch of hippies, man."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":607.14,"endTime":611.18,"body":"We're just, like, my dad was a welder, and, like, his, and then we've owned"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":611.18,"endTime":615.02,"body":"this farm for, like, 40 years. And we're just, like, regular people."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":615.02,"endTime":620.0,"body":"So if we can transform our pig farm to a mushroom farm, anyone can do it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":620.0,"endTime":623.82,"body":"Yeah. They had an article, actually, in The Guardian about this farm a while"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":623.82,"endTime":628.86,"body":"back. And he was saying something like, our family is not the likely kind of"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":628.86,"endTime":630.48,"body":"family that would have done something like this."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":630.48,"endTime":630.88,"body":"Yeah, yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":630.88,"endTime":632.71,"body":"So it's like, and that's what you were saying. We're not hippies."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":632.71,"endTime":635.27,"body":"Yeah. We didn't do this because we want to grow mushrooms. It's like this just"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":635.61,"endTime":637.71,"body":"made sense for us and running the pig farm really sucked."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":637.71,"endTime":643.25,"body":"Yeah. And it seems like it's pretty economical as far as like it's thriving. So love to see it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":643.25,"endTime":646.2,"body":"Yeah, for sure. We'll see more of these mushroom farm conversions."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":646.2,"endTime":646.98,"body":"Fingers crossed."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":647.52,"endTime":650.12,"body":"Mushrooms aren't cheap either. I would imagine you could make some money growing mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":650.24,"endTime":653.67,"body":"I bet you could too. Yeah. I think this could be really neat because like all"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":653.67,"endTime":657.06,"body":"the places we shop, they only have like the same two or three mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":657.06,"endTime":661.22,"body":"And I want to try all the cool mushrooms, but my stores never sell the cool mushrooms."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":661.47,"endTime":667.19,"body":"I know. It's just portobellos, baby bellas, white button mushrooms,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":667.19,"endTime":669.45,"body":"maybe some dried shiitake."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":670.8,"endTime":671.82,"body":"maybe"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":672.07,"endTime":673.45,"body":"They occasionally have lion's mane."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":673.83,"endTime":675.91,"body":"Yeah well no i've never seen"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":675.91,"endTime":678.68,"body":"They had the big puffy packages of lion's mane yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":678.68,"endTime":680.46,"body":"Do they oh whole foods does"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":680.46,"endTime":683.6,"body":"Yeah whole foods sometimes has lion's yeah but it's really."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":683.6,"endTime":686.53,"body":"Expensive yeah but like yeah outside of whole foods like if you're just like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":686.53,"endTime":690.17,"body":"shopping at Meijer or something it's like there's like really limited selection"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":690.17,"endTime":693.92,"body":"yeah so it'd be cool for that just to be able to get some cool shit that's"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":693.92,"endTime":698.02,"body":"Why sometimes i like going to like the vegan Asian restaurants because they'll have like some fancy."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":698.02,"endTime":703.15,"body":"Mushrooms. Yeah, like enoki. I used to buy enoki all the time and now I can never find it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":703.16,"endTime":704.7,"body":"Or the king trumpet stuff. Yes."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":705.51,"endTime":707.73,"body":"Even oyster mushrooms are kind of hard to find. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":707.73,"endTime":709.35,"body":"So anyway, mushroom farms. That's pretty cool."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":709.55,"endTime":710.03,"body":"Very cool."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":710.41,"endTime":714.12,"body":"And then the last news story we have here is about melon leather. Say that three times."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":714.12,"endTime":715.48,"body":"Melon leather."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":715.78,"endTime":720.25,"body":"South Korea's Chilgok County has began upcycling melon waste into vegan leather."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":720.82,"endTime":723.36,"body":"That's really cool. I'm loving anything out of Korea lately."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":723.66,"endTime":725.8,"body":"We've been watching so many K-dramas. No, I know."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":727.02,"endTime":731.92,"body":"But they partnered with a vegan fashion brand called HLK to produce prototype"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":731.92,"endTime":734.56,"body":"card wallets, business card holders, and bags."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":735.06,"endTime":739.36,"body":"Currently, it's about 10% melon waste as part of their vegan leather product."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":739.36,"endTime":742.32,"body":"I think they said they're hoping to ramp that up to like 22% melon waste."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":742.81,"endTime":745.42,"body":"So, yeah, that's pretty cool. And apparently, so, melon waste,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":745.42,"endTime":747.58,"body":"you're thinking like, oh, well, how much melon waste do we have?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":747.58,"endTime":750.97,"body":"But apparently, this county in South Korea produces a certain type of melon"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":751.37,"endTime":752.9,"body":"that produces a lot of waste."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":752.9,"endTime":756.52,"body":"Like huge rind situation. Right. Yeah, it sounds like they're basically just"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":756.52,"endTime":758.84,"body":"using the rind from the melons."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":759.21,"endTime":759.54,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":760.14,"endTime":762.48,"body":"And combining it with some kind of a vegan fabric."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":762.48,"endTime":767.6,"body":"They are a major producer of chamoe melons, which is a Korean specialty crop."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":768.34,"endTime":773.74,"body":"If it's a non-English word, we will butcher the shit out of it, and we apologize."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":774.08,"endTime":778.24,"body":"Hopefully, we'll see more fruit waste turned into bags or something."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":778.48,"endTime":781.21,"body":"Upcycling is always interesting to me, because it's like, we were literally"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":781.21,"endTime":783.94,"body":"just going to throw this thing away, but actually, we can make useful stuff out of it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":783.96,"endTime":784.79,"body":"No, it's awesome."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":784.95,"endTime":785.1,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":785.1,"endTime":788.57,"body":"If you have any K-drama recommendations, let us know."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":788.74,"endTime":790.25,"body":"Oh, yeah. We've gone through all of them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":790.72,"endTime":795.51,"body":"Yeah. We watched Bon Appetit, Your Majesty. What was the one we just watched?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":796.69,"endTime":802.61,"body":"oh oh my royal nemesis that one was good and we watched mr king and then i watched"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":802.72,"endTime":806.55,"body":"this other one that i can't remember the name of that did not have an english"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":806.55,"endTime":809.27,"body":"dub but it did have a spanish dub so"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":811.14,"endTime":815.2,"body":"i watched it in spanish because i understand spanish well like a lot better"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":815.2,"endTime":817.54,"body":"than korean right because i don't know korean at all"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":820.24,"endTime":823.42,"body":"Yeah i looked over i walked in the room one time when you were watching it and"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":823.42,"endTime":825.75,"body":"i was like this is a Korean show and they're speaking Spanish,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":825.75,"endTime":826.86,"body":"I don't really know what's happening."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":829.47,"endTime":830.73,"body":"Trust me, it was better."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":830.73,"endTime":833.94,"body":"Yeah. It's easier to follow than Korean, for sure, if you don't know Korean."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":833.94,"endTime":836.24,"body":"Yeah. I can look away and still kind of know what's going on."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":836.95,"endTime":840.22,"body":"So now we're going to get into the replay of the main topic,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":840.22,"endTime":846.59,"body":"Going Vegan 101. So first off, maybe we should define the difference between plant-based and vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":847.12,"endTime":851.91,"body":"Yeah. They get used interchangeably a lot, which I guess is like semi-fair on"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":851.91,"endTime":856.88,"body":"the diet front, but the meanings behind these are completely different and it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":856.88,"endTime":860.36,"body":"um you can piss a lot of people off by using the wrong one yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":861.6,"endTime":863.46,"body":"A lot of people are touchy about this kind of thing for some reason."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":863.92,"endTime":871.11,"body":"As they should be i'm not plant-based i'm vegan bitch so plant-based is like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":871.11,"endTime":874.93,"body":"you adhere to a mostly plant-based diet and i think this is where it gets a"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":874.93,"endTime":878.22,"body":"little confusing because some people say plant-based but they're not like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":879.06,"endTime":882.52,"body":"fully plant-based, they're like, mostly plant-based."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":882.52,"endTime":885.59,"body":"Yeah, a plant-based diet is not even always technically a vegan diet."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":886.08,"endTime":889.55,"body":"Yeah. Because it'll be predominantly plant-based. So you might still have some"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":889.55,"endTime":890.82,"body":"fish and meat and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":890.82,"endTime":893.89,"body":"Yeah, even Morningstar doesn't know what the hell plant-based is because they"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":893.89,"endTime":898.57,"body":"write plant-based on their vegetarian products, which I'm not sure what tree"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":898.57,"endTime":900.75,"body":"eggs come from, but it pisses me off."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":900.75,"endTime":905.46,"body":"Yeah, I can understand in the context of plant-based diet, meaning there might"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":905.46,"endTime":909.33,"body":"still be some animal products, But having a product, say, plant-based,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":909.79,"endTime":912.38,"body":"feels like it should just be plants."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":912.38,"endTime":918.4,"body":"Feels like it's pretty misleading, Morningstar. Maybe PETA should get up Morningstar's ass."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":919.16,"endTime":924.24,"body":"So, anyways, so plant-based is diet-focused. And most people go plant-based"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":924.24,"endTime":927.38,"body":"for, like, health reasons. Some people do it for environmental reasons."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":927.92,"endTime":930.72,"body":"But then vegan is for animals."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":931.01,"endTime":935.58,"body":"The main tenet of veganism is reduction of animal harm and, like,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":935.58,"endTime":938.96,"body":"the belief that animals aren't here for our use and things like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":939.26,"endTime":942.74,"body":"So the scope of that is much larger than the diet."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":942.97,"endTime":947.14,"body":"It includes things like clothing, accessories, shoes, beauty products,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":947.14,"endTime":951.63,"body":"cosmetics, even certain little types of food you might not think about,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":951.63,"endTime":955.22,"body":"like honey and gelatin and things that are fortified with lanolin that comes from sheep."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":956.58,"endTime":958.66,"body":"And then also alcohol and toilet paper."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":958.83,"endTime":962.81,"body":"Yeah, like a whole array of things that you probably need to look into if you go vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":962.81,"endTime":966.96,"body":"Yeah, you can find a lot of lists online about things to look out for and particular"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":966.96,"endTime":969.68,"body":"products that are like vegan-friendly cosmetics and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":969.68,"endTime":970.67,"body":"Vegan-friendly alcohol."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":970.82,"endTime":971.16,"body":"Right."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":971.71,"endTime":975.97,"body":"I wouldn't know what to recommend to you other than there is a vegan bourbon"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":975.97,"endTime":978.79,"body":"company called what, the Brothers..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":978.88,"endTime":981.01,"body":"Blood Brothers Bourbon. Blood Brothers Bourbon."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":981.21,"endTime":984.89,"body":"We only know this because we watch Vampire Diaries and one of the guys from"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":984.89,"endTime":988.54,"body":"Vampire Diaries is vegan. And so they started a vegan bourbon company."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":989.44,"endTime":994.02,"body":"But there's lots of good lists out there. We just don't have them for you."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":994.6,"endTime":997.0,"body":"Well, it really depends on what you're looking for. You know,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":997.0,"endTime":1000.24,"body":"there's lists for all these different areas of interest and things like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1000.24,"endTime":1004.69,"body":"So we do have an article we're going to list in the show notes where you do"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1004.69,"endTime":1006.6,"body":"cover a lot of those types of things."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1007.04,"endTime":1009.67,"body":"So you kind of got your own list for a couple of various areas."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1009.67,"endTime":1013.7,"body":"I'm just not like a purse expert or like a fancy shoe expert."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1013.7,"endTime":1017.32,"body":"So I can't really tell you which ones are vegan approved. But there are lots"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1017.32,"endTime":1020.0,"body":"of people doing good work out there. And if you Google it, you'll definitely"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1020.0,"endTime":1023.77,"body":"find lists of like shoes, purses, cosmetics, all that stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1023.95,"endTime":1025.72,"body":"just to let you know to look out for that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1025.98,"endTime":1026.98,"body":"Now you know."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1027.6,"endTime":1028.48,"body":"The more you know."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1028.48,"endTime":1031.66,"body":"All right. So now let's dig into the vegan diet itself."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1032.0,"endTime":1034.94,"body":"Yeah, which is also the plant-based diet, but..."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1035.0,"endTime":1037.76,"body":"A vegan diet is plant-based. A plant-based diet, not always vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1038.01,"endTime":1042.59,"body":"Yeah, it's like those little word things that were on like the ACT,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1042.59,"endTime":1045.88,"body":"you know? Oh, yeah. Not all these are that and not all those are this."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1045.88,"endTime":1046.3,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1047.16,"endTime":1048.77,"body":"Anyway."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1050.08,"endTime":1054.41,"body":"So first off, one of the things that a lot of people have the hardest time with"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1054.41,"endTime":1058.65,"body":"when they go to try a vegan diet is how to deal with the things they have like"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1058.65,"endTime":1062.71,"body":"cravings for hyper palatable foods which just means like really that tastes"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1062.71,"endTime":1064.36,"body":"really good and you want to eat more of them"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1064.71,"endTime":1068.67,"body":"and then things with sentimental ties so like family traditions holiday meals"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1068.67,"endTime":1073.77,"body":"a lot of stuff or convenient stuff yeah convenient stuff you go to snacks yeah that kind of thing so um,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1074.56,"endTime":1077.92,"body":"we'll talk about a couple of the components that kind of make up a lot of those"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1077.92,"endTime":1081.68,"body":"dishes typically and the first one is cheese substitutions yeah Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1081.98,"endTime":1086.29,"body":"When I went vegan, this was the one I was most concerned about because I remember"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1086.29,"endTime":1091.69,"body":"trying vegan cheese at like a pretty young age. I don't know why because I was"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1091.69,"endTime":1095.3,"body":"vegetarian, but I remember trying it and it was really bad. But this was like 20 years ago."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1095.7,"endTime":1095.88,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1096.31,"endTime":1097.83,"body":"But they've gotten great."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1098.16,"endTime":1101.84,"body":"And cheese is very often like the last hang up. Like people are like,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1101.84,"endTime":1103.56,"body":"I would go vegan, but cheese."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1103.56,"endTime":1107.99,"body":"Well, cheese is literally addictive. Yeah. Like actually addictive. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1108.75,"endTime":1112.76,"body":"I don't know. I've heard the advice that once you go vegan, you should stay"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1112.76,"endTime":1117.33,"body":"off of any cheese or any vegan cheese for a couple months and then come back to vegan cheese."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1118.08,"endTime":1121.84,"body":"And you'll like it better. I went straight into vegan cheese and enjoyed it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1121.84,"endTime":1125.38,"body":"fine. So I think it really depends on what you use it on."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1125.92,"endTime":1129.3,"body":"Because it does have like some of like a lot of the ones you buy in stores have"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1129.3,"endTime":1131.9,"body":"more of like a like a sticky texture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1132.36,"endTime":1135.66,"body":"Like if you're melting it on pizza, the mouth feels going to be a lot different."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1135.66,"endTime":1139.01,"body":"But if you're putting it inside of a quesadilla, like I don't notice it so much."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1139.38,"endTime":1142.56,"body":"Yeah. I think the main difference is like vegan cheese doesn't really have any"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1142.56,"endTime":1144.8,"body":"protein. Yeah. The texture is a little different."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1145.01,"endTime":1147.2,"body":"Yeah. They're most from our coconut oil base."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1147.2,"endTime":1151.52,"body":"So. Yeah. But there are a lot of really good ones. And you've got a couple that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1151.52,"endTime":1153.9,"body":"you like specific for like specific use cases."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1154.5,"endTime":1158.74,"body":"So I really like Follow Your Heart Parmesan. The one that's in a little tub."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1160.23,"endTime":1163.42,"body":"That's my favorite because it browns really well in the oven."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1163.42,"endTime":1167.43,"body":"Like if you put it on broil, it browns and it gets kind of crispy."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1167.55,"endTime":1171.09,"body":"So I like it on pretty much anything like casseroles. It's good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1171.09,"endTime":1174.33,"body":"I know a lot of people use it on pizza. I don't usually use that one on pizza."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1174.78,"endTime":1177.92,"body":"But I get on casseroles. Sometimes I'll just toss broccoli in the oven with it,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1177.92,"endTime":1179.32,"body":"A little bit of that, and a little."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1179.72,"endTime":1181.91,"body":"Browned Parmesan on top, and it's excellent."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1181.91,"endTime":1186.76,"body":"And then you can get, if you like grating the block of Parmesan on your pasta"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1186.76,"endTime":1189.03,"body":"or something like that, Violif makes a really good one for that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1189.03,"endTime":1193.19,"body":"Yeah, that one's good. It's flavorful. That's the one I would eat if I wasn't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1193.19,"endTime":1197.34,"body":"cooking it. Like, if you're going to be cooking a parm, I think the Follow Your"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1197.34,"endTime":1198.69,"body":"Heart's the one to do that with."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1199.0,"endTime":1201.55,"body":"There's also, like, a couple other really good parms. We've been having this"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1201.55,"endTime":1204.98,"body":"one. Is it Madly Hadley? It's like a shaker."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1205.52,"endTime":1206.06,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1206.06,"endTime":1209.82,"body":"Parmesan. That's really good. That one's really good. It's like very flavorful."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1209.82,"endTime":1211.08,"body":"I think that one's cashew based."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1211.97,"endTime":1215.77,"body":"There's a smaller company that I think you can really only order online unless"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1215.77,"endTime":1220.94,"body":"you're next to a large vegan cheesery or where her location is."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1220.94,"endTime":1223.87,"body":"But Peaceful Rebel Cheese is actually really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1224.34,"endTime":1227.42,"body":"They have a Parmesan block that's like kind of nice and melty."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1227.42,"endTime":1230.65,"body":"And they also have other blocks of cheese that you can melt."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1230.65,"endTime":1233.73,"body":"Yeah. And a lot of them are tofu based. So they have a little bit more protein"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1233.73,"endTime":1234.47,"body":"than your average cheese."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1235.28,"endTime":1239.49,"body":"Store cheese no that's nice and then you know shredded cheese is another big"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1239.49,"endTime":1242.97,"body":"one people use on all kinds of recipes we usually go for Violife for these"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1242.97,"endTime":1246.85,"body":"they have like a mexican they have a colby jack which is actually tastes a lot like yeah colby jack um,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1247.57,"endTime":1251.59,"body":"they have cheddar mozzarella pretty much everything you would find in a shredded cheese yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1251.87,"endTime":1255.88,"body":"This is like probably my favorite for shredded cheese i feel like it melts really"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1255.88,"endTime":1260.32,"body":"well the thing with vegan cheese though if you're trying to get it to melt is"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1260.32,"endTime":1263.05,"body":"the key to vegan cheese melting is humidity"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1263.71,"endTime":1268.37,"body":"So just keep that in mind when you're trying to get it to melt. Moisture helps it melt."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1268.6,"endTime":1271.79,"body":"If you have a piece of sliced cheese and you're trying to melt it on like a"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1271.79,"endTime":1276.0,"body":"vegan burger patty, you can put a lid or something over it and it'll melt around the patty."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1276.0,"endTime":1280.98,"body":"Yeah, maybe like drop a couple drops of water in the pan to up the humidity and then lock it in."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1280.98,"endTime":1287.64,"body":"We learned that trick by watching the Chef Max at Herbivore cook at a festival one time. That's true."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1288.8,"endTime":1292.96,"body":"all right um Daiya cheese is i think that's like the one of the original ones"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1292.96,"endTime":1295.39,"body":"they seem to be the most popular vegan cheese or."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1295.71,"endTime":1300.83,"body":"Yeah it's gotten a lot better that one used to suck yeah Daiya also has like some"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1300.83,"endTime":1305.91,"body":"other products they have like uh vegan frozen pizzas and uh cheesecakes and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1305.91,"endTime":1308.19,"body":"stuff yeah but yeah they have cheese"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1308.74,"endTime":1312.91,"body":"it's usually not my first pick but a lot of people like it um Nuts for cheese"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1312.91,"endTime":1317.63,"body":"is another good one that's like a little more artisan, smaller company."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1318.15,"endTime":1321.58,"body":"They mostly have blocks of cheese that you would like cracker cheese,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1321.58,"endTime":1325.43,"body":"basically. And I think they have a couple of dips, but they are really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1325.43,"endTime":1327.78,"body":"Yeah. They're like a little pricey, but they're delicious."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1327.78,"endTime":1330.69,"body":"Yeah, and they have some like some of the more unique flavors."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1330.69,"endTime":1332.18,"body":"It's not like a standard cheese. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1333.09,"endTime":1335.98,"body":"Yeah. It's like, I actually don't think they're that expensive when you think"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1335.98,"endTime":1339.05,"body":"of like the artisanal dairy cheeses."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1339.46,"endTime":1341.35,"body":"Yeah. They can get pretty pricey. Yeah. Thank you."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1342.16,"endTime":1345.95,"body":"And then since we're in Chicagoland, we have to mention Cheese and Thank You."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1346.28,"endTime":1350.51,"body":"Yes. Cheese and Thank You is awesome. And if you haven't been able to find it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1350.51,"endTime":1352.22,"body":"yet, I hope one day you do."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1352.49,"endTime":1354.89,"body":"They sell a lot of them at Whole Foods."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1355.6,"endTime":1359.59,"body":"They have this, I can't remember exactly the name of it, but there's a feta,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1359.59,"endTime":1364.03,"body":"a Cheese and Thank You feta, that you can kind of like work into a pasta sauce"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1364.03,"endTime":1367.01,"body":"pretty easily, just adding it to like a plant-based milk."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1367.45,"endTime":1369.79,"body":"And it kind of melts down and makes a really nice pasta sauce."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1370.17,"endTime":1376.46,"body":"um also she has like a line of fresh mozzarellas that are perfect for pizza yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1376.89,"endTime":1380.43,"body":"Awesome and then for the cases where you might use a feta cheese follow your"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1380.43,"endTime":1383.32,"body":"heart has some feta crumbles yeah i like these on salad a."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1383.32,"endTime":1388.99,"body":"Lot yes they are my favorite salad cheese i think violife also has a feta block"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1388.99,"endTime":1390.9,"body":"but i always go with the follow your heart one"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1391.24,"endTime":1395.89,"body":"Yeah and then for cream cheese if you use cream cheese on like a bagel you know"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1395.89,"endTime":1399.71,"body":"you know where you use cream cheese but violife has a cream cheese and then"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1399.71,"endTime":1403.6,"body":"actually philadelphia now has plant-based cream cheese which is really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1404.06,"endTime":1408.99,"body":"They're yeah that one's really good especially the strawberry one but a note"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1408.99,"endTime":1413.88,"body":"on the cream cheeses is that they are coconut oil based so they are like pretty melty"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1414.24,"endTime":1418.35,"body":"you know like when you throw it on a bagel it's going to semi-melt but also"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1418.35,"endTime":1422.07,"body":"if you're trying to use it in a recipe in which you're"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1422.82,"endTime":1426.45,"body":"I don't know, a cheesecake, I probably would not use store-bought cream cheese."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1426.45,"endTime":1429.93,"body":"And then for sliced cheese, you know, typically it's on burgers and sandwiches and stuff."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1430.79,"endTime":1433.07,"body":"You can get Follow Your Heart. They have a lot of sliced cheeses,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1433.07,"endTime":1435.11,"body":"but also Kraft now has vegan sliced cheese."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1435.11,"endTime":1437.6,"body":"That's true. If they had like, I think American and cheddar,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1437.6,"endTime":1438.73,"body":"they might have a couple other ones."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1439.27,"endTime":1442.83,"body":"Yeah. Violife has some pretty good ones too. And then if you're looking to spend"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1442.83,"endTime":1447.36,"body":"a lot of money on some really delicious cheese, Rebel cheese,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1447.89,"endTime":1450.7,"body":"expensive, but like delicious."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1450.82,"endTime":1451.11,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1452.01,"endTime":1456.0,"body":"It's mostly like cracker cheese. Like if you were going to put out like a charcuterie"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1456.0,"endTime":1458.97,"body":"board with like really nice options for like a dinner party or,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1459.67,"endTime":1463.44,"body":"you know, just like a Saturday night where you just want to eat a plate of cheese, which we've done."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1465.03,"endTime":1468.72,"body":"Rebel cheese is the best for that. And they also have like subscription boxes,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1468.72,"endTime":1470.04,"body":"which I think saves a little bit of money."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1470.31,"endTime":1472.59,"body":"So that's kind of the cheese landscape."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1473.27,"endTime":1476.62,"body":"And if you have any other cheeses that you really like, let us know and we'll"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1476.62,"endTime":1477.9,"body":"try to find them and try them."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1477.9,"endTime":1481.87,"body":"For sure. Next up might be condiments. So these are some, there's only a couple"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1481.87,"endTime":1484.63,"body":"of condiments really that you rely on that have animal products."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1484.95,"endTime":1485.17,"body":"Yeah um"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1485.85,"endTime":1488.01,"body":"Because like ketchup and mustard those are typically fine those are."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1488.01,"endTime":1488.76,"body":"Always right"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1489.13,"endTime":1493.65,"body":"But stuff like mayonnaise mayonnaise has eggs uh so follow your heart has a"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1493.65,"endTime":1495.41,"body":"vegan mayonnaise and then hellman's has a."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1495.41,"endTime":1499.31,"body":"Yeah i personally prefer the follow your heart one i think it tastes really"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1499.31,"endTime":1506.35,"body":"good yeah there's we tried the uh just mayo and i i didn't really like that they should"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1506.35,"endTime":1506.79,"body":"Stick to the."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1506.79,"endTime":1512.48,"body":"Eggs yeah um you can also make your own mayo like i make my mayo out of silken"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1512.48,"endTime":1516.57,"body":"tofu if i'm using a bunch it doesn't stay in the fridge very long so i wouldn't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1516.57,"endTime":1518.14,"body":"really recommend making your own unless"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1518.7,"endTime":1521.97,"body":"you're using it all in like a coleslaw or something right quickly"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1521.97,"endTime":1524.75,"body":"Yeah yeah that's not the like jar mayonnaise you keep around for three months."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1524.75,"endTime":1525.82,"body":"Exactly yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1525.82,"endTime":1529.69,"body":"Next up ranch dressing obviously several animal ingredients typically but follow"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1529.69,"endTime":1530.87,"body":"your heart has a really good ranch."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1530.87,"endTime":1535.09,"body":"Dressing yeah and i think hidden valley ranch has um a vegan ranch too and that"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1535.09,"endTime":1539.42,"body":"one's pretty good i still prefer follow your Heart and I think Follow Your Heart"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1539.42,"endTime":1543.1,"body":"has a couple other creamy dressings like Caesar and I think"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1543.91,"endTime":1548.7,"body":"and maybe a couple others, but either way, I like the Follow Your Heart Ranch a lot."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1549.04,"endTime":1551.62,"body":"And then I guess while we're on the topic of, like, condiments,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1551.62,"endTime":1553.17,"body":"does butter fall into condiments?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1553.36,"endTime":1555.19,"body":"Sure, because there's not anywhere else on our list."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1555.19,"endTime":1560.15,"body":"That's true. Now, if you've been in the grocery store in the last two months,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1560.15,"endTime":1563.96,"body":"you may have noticed that, like, vegan butter is, I don't know what's going"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1563.96,"endTime":1567.05,"body":"on with vegan butter, but I can't, I mean, we're, like, having to try out all"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1567.05,"endTime":1569.9,"body":"kinds of different new vegan butter because all of the ones we used to buy are gone."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1570.01,"endTime":1571.21,"body":"Yeah, hard to find."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1571.46,"endTime":1577.74,"body":"Earth Balance is pretty good for baking. What other ones have we been trying? Country Crock."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1577.74,"endTime":1581.52,"body":"Country Crock has like an avocado oil-based one, and then another one that is"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1581.52,"endTime":1583.92,"body":"a different oil. I can't remember right now. They have two different kinds."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1583.92,"endTime":1587.24,"body":"I also read recently that I Can't Believe It's Not Butter is now accidentally"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1587.24,"endTime":1588.8,"body":"vegan, as of fairly recently."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1589.18,"endTime":1590.26,"body":"Yeah, I think I saw that on Reddit, too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1590.9,"endTime":1594.42,"body":"Yeah, so next up is meat substitution. So this is another big one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1594.42,"endTime":1597.62,"body":"People really like the texture or taste of meat a lot of the time."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1598.08,"endTime":1600.99,"body":"Yeah, some people are actually disgusted by the texture of meat."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1600.99,"endTime":1603.76,"body":"So the ones that I think are really gross because I don't like the texture of"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1603.76,"endTime":1606.68,"body":"meats might work really well for you if you're really trying to get that texture."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1607.44,"endTime":1610.08,"body":"The more you dislike it, the closer it is to real meat."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1610.08,"endTime":1615.66,"body":"Holy shit. What was the Beyond Ground Beef actually made me cry while I was trying to cook it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1616.98,"endTime":1623.86,"body":"I had an actual panic attack. It was just not good for me. So if you really want ground beef."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1623.86,"endTime":1624.88,"body":"That's a recommendation."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1628.86,"endTime":1630.44,"body":"We got to get the Beyond Cow in on it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1630.44,"endTime":1634.86,"body":"Yeah. so good it makes me cry"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1637.3,"endTime":1641.84,"body":"Yeah some other ones are Gardein they do a lot of the like frozen nugget shaped type."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1641.84,"endTime":1643.86,"body":"Things they have a lot of good stuff fish"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1643.86,"endTime":1647.33,"body":"Sticks like chicken tender think that kind of thing they do."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1647.33,"endTime":1651.83,"body":"Crab cakes oh I think they also have some and I don't know if they still have"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1651.83,"endTime":1654.4,"body":"these but the ones that you can just kind of like throw in the microwave in"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1654.4,"endTime":1658.21,"body":"a bag and like end up with like orange chicken or"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1659.27,"endTime":1662.51,"body":"I think they had like an Alfredo one at some point I don't know they've got"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1662.51,"endTime":1667.26,"body":"Gardein is like pretty high on my list of like frozen ones i really enjoy they actually usually"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1667.26,"endTime":1668.51,"body":"Have pretty solid protein in them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1668.51,"endTime":1672.59,"body":"So yeah the macros are not bad i think they also have their own burgers and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1672.59,"endTime":1675.22,"body":"stuff too yeah i don't think we've really used that too much and"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1675.22,"endTime":1680.7,"body":"Then also for uh burgers specifically beyond and impossible i'm sure everybody"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1680.7,"endTime":1684.73,"body":"has heard of these by now but they're kind of the go-to burger patties and ground ground uh."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1685.17,"endTime":1693.34,"body":"Meat meat stuff yeah um Boca also makes a veggie burger that has really good macros."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1694.59,"endTime":1698.67,"body":"And then, let's see. There are a couple other ones all around the same macros."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1698.83,"endTime":1702.83,"body":"Pretty burger-y, you know? Yeah. It will meet your burger needs."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1703.31,"endTime":1707.82,"body":"And then, if you're thinking more in terms of sandwiches, Tofurky is a brand"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1707.82,"endTime":1711.49,"body":"that has a lot of tofu-based kind of deli meat type things. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1712.25,"endTime":1714.59,"body":"They have a smoked turkey is like their main one, I think, but they have a couple other."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1714.87,"endTime":1715.81,"body":"And they have a ham, too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1716.19,"endTime":1716.33,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1716.63,"endTime":1720.39,"body":"They also sell Tofurky's around Thanksgiving, like a big roast. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1721.31,"endTime":1724.47,"body":"But yeah, the macros on those are always really, they're like pretty comparable"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1724.47,"endTime":1725.59,"body":"to like actual lunch meat."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1725.59,"endTime":1729.81,"body":"So, um, and then in the jerky realm, um, the most popular brand is Louisville"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1729.81,"endTime":1733.73,"body":"vegan jerky and it's also our favorite. Um, they have a smoky Carolina barbecue"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1733.73,"endTime":1734.69,"body":"flavor that's really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1734.92,"endTime":1735.95,"body":"Then there's seitan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1736.61,"endTime":1740.91,"body":"So Blackbird is like my personal favorite, but they're not at very many stores."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1740.91,"endTime":1744.94,"body":"For some reason, they put their pizzas in stores and I don't like their pizzas."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1744.94,"endTime":1747.67,"body":"Yeah. And I'm like, can you please put your wings and stuff in stores?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1747.67,"endTime":1750.98,"body":"Yeah, their wings are great. You just have to, you know, order them a case at"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1750.98,"endTime":1752.79,"body":"a time and keep them frozen. So it's a little..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1752.83,"endTime":1755.61,"body":"Then you need to buy an extra freezer. It's like a whole ordeal."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1755.61,"endTime":1759.29,"body":"So, hey, Blackbird, go put your wings places. We don't want your pizza."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1759.59,"endTime":1763.23,"body":"Yeah. If you're in Texas, last time we were there anyway, they did have the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1763.23,"endTime":1768.91,"body":"seitan, the barbecue seitan and the Korean seitan at HEB. So you might check that out."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1768.91,"endTime":1773.97,"body":"Yeah. That was actually where we found it. Upton also has good seitan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1773.97,"endTime":1777.54,"body":"Yeah. They've got like crumbles. And then there are a couple other brands. Daring."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1778.27,"endTime":1778.97,"body":"Yeah. I really like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1779.01,"endTime":1781.33,"body":"We should try that. They have pretty good chicken."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1781.33,"endTime":1782.7,"body":"Yeah. Daring has a really good"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1782.7,"endTime":1785.94,"body":"Cajun chicken, specifically if you like spicy stuff. I like that a lot."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1785.94,"endTime":1788.17,"body":"I personally haven't tried it because I can't do spicy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1788.17,"endTime":1789.85,"body":"Really good macros too. Kind of expensive."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1789.85,"endTime":1796.32,"body":"Yeah, the macros are really good. And then Just, the makers of Just Egg put out."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1796.32,"endTime":1798.73,"body":"Yeah, they're Just Meat chicken alternatives."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1798.73,"endTime":1801.59,"body":"We haven't had a chance to try that because it's not near us. We haven't found any,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1801.93,"endTime":1803.69,"body":"But. Somebody online told us it was really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1803.92,"endTime":1804.17,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1804.31,"endTime":1807.95,"body":"Next up, moving away from meat are some egg substitutes. So eggs are another"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1807.95,"endTime":1811.02,"body":"one that are kind of in everything, especially if you're doing baking,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1811.02,"endTime":1814.36,"body":"things like that. So it's good to know some substitute options there."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1814.36,"endTime":1819.64,"body":"Yeah. So if you're just wanting scrambled eggs, Just Egg is pretty good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1819.64,"endTime":1821.39,"body":"Like the liquid Just Egg works pretty well."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1822.77,"endTime":1827.76,"body":"Also, I would recommend a tofu scramble. It is not really super egg-like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1827.76,"endTime":1830.32,"body":"but it kind of like fills the void of scrambled eggs."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1830.32,"endTime":1833.1,"body":"A tofu scramble with a bunch of nutritional yeast is pretty close."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1833.1,"endTime":1838.05,"body":"It's pretty close. The macros are really good. Just Egg also makes frozen patties"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1838.05,"endTime":1840.03,"body":"that work really well in like breakfast sandwiches."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1840.15,"endTime":1842.86,"body":"If you're looking for an egg substitute for baking, I don't,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1843.23,"endTime":1845.65,"body":"I personally don't use just egg for baking. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1845.87,"endTime":1848.3,"body":"Um, I really like a flax egg."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1848.47,"endTime":1848.73,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1849.2,"endTime":1854.52,"body":"Basically a tablespoon of ground flax combined with like three tablespoons of"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1854.52,"endTime":1857.87,"body":"water and let that sit for five minutes. And that, that gives you like about an egg."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1858.97,"endTime":1862.33,"body":"If you don't want to do that, Bob's Red Mill will sell something just called Egg Replacer."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1862.6,"endTime":1863.33,"body":"That one's okay."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1863.33,"endTime":1863.67,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1864.28,"endTime":1870.13,"body":"I feel like I always go back to the flax egg, but I also like pumpkin puree"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1870.13,"endTime":1874.4,"body":"works well as an egg substitute. So, just applesauce or like mashed up bananas."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1874.67,"endTime":1874.91,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1875.13,"endTime":1878.09,"body":"Some of those will add some extra flavor, but I actually find that pumpkin puree"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1878.09,"endTime":1880.72,"body":"works really well. Yeah. It doesn't have too much flavor on its own."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1881.0,"endTime":1883.85,"body":"And blended silken tofu is also a good egg substitute."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1884.32,"endTime":1886.32,"body":"Silken tofu is good for pretty much everything. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1886.9,"endTime":1890.19,"body":"Oh, and then if you're looking for an egg white substitute, most people go with"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1890.19,"endTime":1896.21,"body":"aquafaba, which is like the bean water that you would normally drain from a can of chickpeas."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1896.69,"endTime":1903.1,"body":"So also here is like a really fun fact is that the plant is here on Instagram."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1903.1,"endTime":1904.22,"body":"We talked about her last podcast."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1904.47,"endTime":1911.16,"body":"She has a lot of good ideas, guys. But she apparently she told me that she freezes"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1911.16,"endTime":1913.33,"body":"them into like ice cubes so she can use them later."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1913.45,"endTime":1914.42,"body":"Oh, the aquafaba? Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1914.74,"endTime":1919.77,"body":"Yeah, which is like genius. If you're making hummus, you're probably not also"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1919.77,"endTime":1921.5,"body":"making something that would need egg whites."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1921.92,"endTime":1925.95,"body":"So, yeah, she'll just like drain the can of chickpeas and put it into ice cube"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1925.95,"endTime":1927.22,"body":"molds and have them for later."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1927.22,"endTime":1928.37,"body":"That's a super good idea."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1928.59,"endTime":1932.78,"body":"She bakes a lot, so it makes sense. But I was like, holy shit, that's genius."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1934.24,"endTime":1935.46,"body":"It could be life changing for"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1935.46,"endTime":1938.19,"body":"you if you are someone who bakes and also messes around with chickpeas."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1938.19,"endTime":1941.97,"body":"So kind of the next phase that you might be looking for food alternatives in"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1941.97,"endTime":1943.6,"body":"is when you go out to a restaurant."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1943.6,"endTime":1947.47,"body":"Yeah. So the first recommendation we'll give you is downloaded Happy Cow."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1947.47,"endTime":1951.62,"body":"Yeah, definitely. Happy Cow is an app where you can find vegan and vegetarian"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1951.62,"endTime":1955.2,"body":"restaurants pretty much anywhere in the world. So if you just go in there,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1955.2,"endTime":1959.59,"body":"say, show me restaurants near me, everything in there is at least vegetarian."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1960.9,"endTime":1963.28,"body":"You can look for fully vegan restaurants or you can just find restaurants with"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1963.28,"endTime":1967.16,"body":"vegan options. Yeah. There'll be probably a couple near you that you've never even heard of."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1967.47,"endTime":1967.85,"body":"Mm-hmm."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1968.52,"endTime":1971.93,"body":"And there will be a couple in there that literally they don't have anything"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1971.93,"endTime":1974.86,"body":"on the menu, but someone decided to put it in Happy Cow and give it a four-star"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1974.86,"endTime":1976.41,"body":"rating because they have breadsticks."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1976.41,"endTime":1980.98,"body":"Yeah. You got to avoid those. It's not as bad on Happy Cow as it is on like,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1981.58,"endTime":1982.86,"body":"the delivery apps, though."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1982.86,"endTime":1983.62,"body":"Oh, that's true. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1984.14,"endTime":1987.8,"body":"Some of the big restaurant options, though, that we have seen that are good"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1987.8,"endTime":1992.58,"body":"are Taco Bell. Taco Bell, if you put stuff Fresco style and pick beans,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":1993.32,"endTime":1994.91,"body":"there's a lot of vegan options there, actually."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1994.91,"endTime":1999.88,"body":"Yeah, so Fresco Style removes the sour cream and the cheese and any other dairy"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":1999.88,"endTime":2001.58,"body":"products they have, and it replaces it with..."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2002.38,"endTime":2003.19,"body":"Pico de gallo."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2003.19,"endTime":2004.24,"body":"Pico de gallo."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2004.7,"endTime":2004.93,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2005.07,"endTime":2009.26,"body":"Yeah. So that's a really good option. And, you know, since it's so bean-focused,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2009.26,"endTime":2010.47,"body":"there's a lot of, like, protein."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2010.91,"endTime":2014.06,"body":"Yeah. I wouldn't call it high protein, but, like, it's filling, for sure."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2014.06,"endTime":2015.77,"body":"And it's, like, mostly whole food, so..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2015.77,"endTime":2019.07,"body":"Yeah, it's actually... People make fun of Taco Bell, but it's a really healthy"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2019.07,"endTime":2021.74,"body":"option, as long as you're pulling off the dairy products."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2021.74,"endTime":2025.65,"body":"Yeah. Next is Chipotle. Kind of the same thing, like a bigger Taco Bell."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2025.65,"endTime":2030.11,"body":"But they have a flavored marinated tofu called sofritas. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2030.11,"endTime":2034.39,"body":"So you can basically get a very high protein double tofu bowl with a bunch of"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2034.39,"endTime":2035.89,"body":"fresh vegetables and beans and stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2035.89,"endTime":2038.66,"body":"Yeah. And it's very customizable. So you can add on whatever you want."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2038.66,"endTime":2039.0,"body":"Yep."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2039.51,"endTime":2044.5,"body":"The next up is like a noodle bowl, poke bowl, rice bowl restaurant."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2044.5,"endTime":2048.6,"body":"There's a lot of those around now, which is great because they have great options."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2049.1,"endTime":2052.15,"body":"Yeah. You can customize your own bowl. You can add on a lot of veggies."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2052.56,"endTime":2058.32,"body":"usually like a rice base or maybe a noodle base and then the best part is they almost always have tofu"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2058.97,"endTime":2060.18,"body":"At least one kind of tofu."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2060.61,"endTime":2063.52,"body":"We found one near us that uses really good sweet potato noodles."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2063.9,"endTime":2065.03,"body":"Yeah. What is it called?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2065.03,"endTime":2065.66,"body":"Bee-bee-bop?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2066.18,"endTime":2066.76,"body":"Bee-bom-bop?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2066.96,"endTime":2068.22,"body":"Bee-bee-bop? Yeah, bee-bee-bop."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2068.49,"endTime":2069.26,"body":"It's super good."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2070.3,"endTime":2073.73,"body":"And then Asian restaurants. A lot of the Asian restaurants have vegan options."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2073.73,"endTime":2076.43,"body":"A lot of them have tofu as an option, so another protein option."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2076.65,"endTime":2081.4,"body":"Like Chinese, Thai, Japanese. Thank you for having tofu. You guys make great tofu."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2082.36,"endTime":2085.82,"body":"Indian restaurants, very vegetarian friendly, but a lot of them do have a couple"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2085.82,"endTime":2086.8,"body":"of vegan options as well."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2086.8,"endTime":2088.53,"body":"Yeah. And a lot of those will have tofu too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2088.64,"endTime":2091.98,"body":"Yeah, Burger King, surprisingly, they have the Impossible Burger still."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2091.98,"endTime":2094.38,"body":"I know a lot of places are pulling stuff like that off their menu,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2094.38,"endTime":2096.53,"body":"but Burger King has still got theirs."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2096.53,"endTime":2097.75,"body":"Holding strong so far."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2097.75,"endTime":2101.26,"body":"Yeah, it does come with, I think, like a mayonnaise you have to take off,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2101.26,"endTime":2102.71,"body":"but it doesn't come with cheese anyway."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2102.71,"endTime":2103.36,"body":"Yeah, it doesn't come with cheese."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2103.36,"endTime":2104.5,"body":"Make sure you don't order it with cheese."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2104.5,"endTime":2108.41,"body":"Yeah, take it home and put on a slice of your own cheese."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2108.81,"endTime":2112.38,"body":"But yeah, so it's an Impossible Burger patty, so a little bit of protein there too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2113.02,"endTime":2117.15,"body":"Mediterranean restaurants, not a great protein option, but they do have falafel,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2117.15,"endTime":2120.58,"body":"hummus. If they have vegan pita bread, sometimes you can get that, too."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2120.58,"endTime":2122.94,"body":"Yeah, sometimes they have wraps, too, like falafel wraps."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2122.94,"endTime":2123.23,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2123.23,"endTime":2124.17,"body":"Pretty decent option."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2124.17,"endTime":2127.87,"body":"I love a good falafel. And then smoothie places. A lot of those have plant protein"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2127.87,"endTime":2131.37,"body":"add-ons nowadays. So you can go get a smoothie bowl with a bunch of fruits and"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2131.37,"endTime":2132.55,"body":"add in some plant protein to it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2132.8,"endTime":2135.85,"body":"Yeah, they usually will let you add in plant protein powder to the actual smoothie"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2135.85,"endTime":2139.62,"body":"part. And then, like, you can get add-ons like nut butters and nuts and seeds."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2139.96,"endTime":2143.8,"body":"And then, like, while we're talking about restaurants, we should probably mention,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2143.8,"endTime":2146.68,"body":"like, social outings or, like, eating out can be."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2147.12,"endTime":2151.47,"body":"i think one of the trickier things with going vegan like as far as you know"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2151.65,"endTime":2154.29,"body":"things that like directly impact the way you've been"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2154.29,"endTime":2157.83,"body":"Living yeah definitely i know that's one of the big hang-ups for people and"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2157.83,"endTime":2161.12,"body":"i think that's one of the main things that makes people go back to not yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2161.12,"endTime":2165.39,"body":"vegan diet is just like i can't go out with my friends anymore i have a lot"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2165.39,"endTime":2168.78,"body":"of trouble like trying to coordinate social events with this vegan diet thing so."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2169.01,"endTime":2170.31,"body":"Yeah so i think you know"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2171.57,"endTime":2175.63,"body":"I'm an introvert, so my advice is, woohoo, no more social outings."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2176.81,"endTime":2179.05,"body":"Or like, you know, find some vegans."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2179.31,"endTime":2179.63,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2179.84,"endTime":2185.29,"body":"Some new vegan friends. But also, I think my real advice would be maybe look"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2185.29,"endTime":2188.8,"body":"on Happy Cow. Try to find some, first off, like if you have really cool friends,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2188.8,"endTime":2191.0,"body":"they might want to go check out vegan restaurants with you. Like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2191.47,"endTime":2194.23,"body":"we have friends that will go out to vegan restaurants with us."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2194.23,"endTime":2194.56,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2194.56,"endTime":2195.57,"body":"Which is awesome."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2195.57,"endTime":2199.41,"body":"Because, you know, everybody can eat vegan food because it's just all the other"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2199.41,"endTime":2200.85,"body":"food that's not the animal product part."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2200.99,"endTime":2204.72,"body":"Yeah, everyone. Vegan food is for everybody. But, you know, if your friends"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2204.72,"endTime":2208.8,"body":"are like less inclined to eat vegan food, you could always find maybe some omnivore"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2208.8,"endTime":2211.9,"body":"restaurants that have a good vegan option."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2212.04,"endTime":2214.55,"body":"Maybe that would work. Suggest things. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2215.09,"endTime":2218.77,"body":"I will say like on the work front, this comes up a lot. But my recommendation"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2218.77,"endTime":2222.75,"body":"there would be as soon as you decide you're going vegan, I would like as soon"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2222.75,"endTime":2224.83,"body":"as the first work event comes up, you just got to like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2225.25,"endTime":2228.98,"body":"rip the bandaid off and tell them so that you don't have to keep like if you"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2228.98,"endTime":2231.55,"body":"let it slide once, they'll just kind of take advantage of, oh,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2231.55,"endTime":2233.66,"body":"this person doesn't really care if there's an option for them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2233.66,"endTime":2236.97,"body":"They'll just bring their lunch. So I think my recommendation is to like talk"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2236.97,"endTime":2240.85,"body":"to your supervisor or manager, whoever's coordinating a lunch and learn or whatever,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2240.85,"endTime":2242.9,"body":"or like a work outing after work."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2243.05,"endTime":2243.39,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2243.62,"endTime":2245.16,"body":"Try to get some vegan options in there."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2245.56,"endTime":2249.08,"body":"Yeah, just slowly, you know, over time, I'm vegan. Oh, I can't go to that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2249.08,"endTime":2251.45,"body":"I'm vegan. And then maybe some will eventually show up."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2251.45,"endTime":2255.09,"body":"That's true. The next thing up will be cooking because depending on where you"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2255.09,"endTime":2257.3,"body":"live, you might not have very many vegan options."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2257.57,"endTime":2261.42,"body":"Yeah, I will say if you're going to go vegan, you're going to want to learn"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2261.42,"endTime":2263.8,"body":"to cook at least as much as you can."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2264.02,"endTime":2266.9,"body":"Yeah, and maybe you can find some really easy meals, but you should,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2267.15,"endTime":2270.73,"body":"I think for me, that is like my number one piece of advice, period,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2270.73,"endTime":2275.52,"body":"is like have a couple recipes that you can make and that you enjoy eating"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2276.33,"endTime":2280.44,"body":"Because I don't know. I mean, we're like about an hour from Chicago and Chicago"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2280.44,"endTime":2285.73,"body":"has so many options. But where we live, I wouldn't call it a vegan desert, but it's not real great."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2285.73,"endTime":2288.28,"body":"Yeah, we've only got a few options here that are really reliable."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2288.66,"endTime":2292.1,"body":"Yeah. And you'll get burned out of those really fast. So I think learning how"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2292.1,"endTime":2296.2,"body":"to cook a couple of meals that you really like is like the best advice anyone can give you."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2296.2,"endTime":2299.83,"body":"And I think vegan cooking can be kind of intimidating because,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2299.83,"endTime":2303.19,"body":"you know, you're not using all of those things that you were using with vegan"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2303.19,"endTime":2305.49,"body":"meats, vegan dairy substitutions."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2305.49,"endTime":2309.03,"body":"If you're trying to figure out what to cook, you can go to the Protein Deficient"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2309.03,"endTime":2311.47,"body":"Vegan website and get a bunch of high-protein vegan recipes."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2311.79,"endTime":2316.36,"body":"Yes. And there are also other really amazing recipe sites out there that aren't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2316.36,"endTime":2318.89,"body":"just mine. Sure. You know, but yeah, you should go check mine out."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2320.52,"endTime":2324.13,"body":"But honestly, there are so many vegan food blogs and vegan baking blogs out"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2324.13,"endTime":2326.75,"body":"there. Like, you're going to find something that resonates with you. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2327.17,"endTime":2330.41,"body":"And, like, just try some easy stuff. I know when I first went vegan,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2331.07,"endTime":2334.69,"body":"I actually only made my recipes and Nora's recipes. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2335.31,"endTime":2339.59,"body":"But like Nora was a huge lifeline for me when I went vegan because I just didn't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2339.59,"endTime":2340.62,"body":"know what to do with anything."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2340.62,"endTime":2345.25,"body":"So find someone whose recipes that you like and try like some easy stuff,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2345.66,"endTime":2349.84,"body":"even if it's just eating like a quesadilla or like a burger."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2349.84,"endTime":2354.67,"body":"Like just, you know, you can rely on substitutes early on. Since I have a vegan"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2355.41,"endTime":2359.78,"body":"food blog, I thought I would just throw out some of my tips that may or may not be useful to you."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2360.57,"endTime":2363.24,"body":"Or like ideas that may or may not be useful to you. Let's hear them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2363.24,"endTime":2370.24,"body":"Okay. So my first one is important to know that most vegan cheeses are pretty much just coconut oil."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2371.28,"endTime":2377.27,"body":"So they're not really going to work the same way as their dairy counterparts."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2377.27,"endTime":2380.49,"body":"For instance, if you're making, if you're trying to make a creamy mac and cheese,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2380.49,"endTime":2385.43,"body":"just having shredded vegan cheese is probably not going to make it creamy. It's going to be oily."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2385.94,"endTime":2392.32,"body":"um so you might need to end it add in like blended cashews or silken tofu um"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2392.89,"endTime":2397.57,"body":"just because vegan cheese is a lot more oily than dairy cheese yeah so it's"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2397.57,"endTime":2398.54,"body":"something to understand"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2398.97,"endTime":2403.24,"body":"same with like the cream cheese right also if you have been eating a lot of"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2403.24,"endTime":2406.14,"body":"cheese and if you're someone who tracks your protein and calories and stuff"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2406.44,"endTime":2410.75,"body":"you've probably been getting protein from your cheese and so it's just important to know"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2411.41,"endTime":2414.26,"body":"that you're not getting protein from vegan cheese anymore no"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2414.26,"endTime":2418.28,"body":"And i think that's actually one of i've read before like that's one of the reasons,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2418.76,"endTime":2421.59,"body":"um that sometimes you can run into protein issues it's just a normal if you're"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2421.62,"endTime":2424.61,"body":"not thinking about protein or thinking about fitness or anything is because"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2424.61,"endTime":2426.76,"body":"you're getting protein from dairy,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2427.28,"endTime":2430.87,"body":"that you weren't even really thinking about dairy and eggs and stuff like that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2430.87,"endTime":2433.63,"body":"you hadn't really considered that so you switch and you have these options that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2433.63,"endTime":2435.14,"body":"aren't really protein centric anymore."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2435.63,"endTime":2439.31,"body":"Yeah i think that's true because a lot of times when you're an omnivore you"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2439.31,"endTime":2443.81,"body":"think of like meat and your milk and your eggs as protein sources."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2444.14,"endTime":2447.02,"body":"But like if you've been eating cheese or like if you're a vegetarian and a lot"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2447.02,"endTime":2449.49,"body":"of your protein might have been coming from cheese or..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2450.4,"endTime":2454.76,"body":"something like that a lot of these are not they're not made with protein they're made"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2455.26,"endTime":2458.78,"body":"they're oil-based so like they just don't have anywhere near the same macros"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2458.78,"endTime":2461.6,"body":"so it's just important to know if that's something you care about and then we"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2461.6,"endTime":2464.02,"body":"already talked about the egg replacer you know think"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2464.38,"endTime":2469.1,"body":"um for baking maybe like blended silken tofu or pumpkin puree applesauce a flax"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2469.1,"endTime":2474.02,"body":"egg next tip would be that a lot of our plant-based protein options like tofu TVP"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2474.56,"endTime":2478.19,"body":"homemade seitan stuff like that tempeh they don't have much flavor on their"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2478.19,"endTime":2481.87,"body":"own so it's really important that you're very liberal with your spices."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2482.22,"endTime":2484.42,"body":"I'm liberal and also liberal with my spices."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2487.28,"endTime":2489.19,"body":"Because that's really where you're getting a lot of your flavor from."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2489.19,"endTime":2492.06,"body":"Yeah, it's funny because I'll watch you make your own recipes and you're like,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2492.4,"endTime":2493.48,"body":"I'm just going to add a little more."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2496.3,"endTime":2501.24,"body":"Yeah, it's like a tablespoon of vanilla, but what if I should have more? Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2502.6,"endTime":2505.46,"body":"Yeah. The key difference is if it goes wrong, you can only blame yourself."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2506.58,"endTime":2508.86,"body":"Yeah, and usually what I wrote down is right."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2508.86,"endTime":2509.29,"body":"Right."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2510.12,"endTime":2514.31,"body":"I'm just so used to adding more to other people's. To add flavor,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2514.31,"endTime":2519.97,"body":"you're usually going to focus on spices and herbs, like fresh herbs really add a lot of flavor."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2520.41,"endTime":2525.06,"body":"But you can also use things like soy sauce or nutritional yeast or miso to add"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2525.06,"endTime":2527.97,"body":"like an umami flavor and like some additional depth."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2527.97,"endTime":2531.0,"body":"Yeah, nutritional yeast comes in clutch in a whole lot of different ways."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2531.0,"endTime":2534.25,"body":"We use it all the time. And it's also very high in protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2534.25,"endTime":2535.01,"body":"Yeah, good tip."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2535.01,"endTime":2538.05,"body":"It's a good one. And blended silken tofu is also a great way to add protein"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2538.05,"endTime":2541.94,"body":"to like your salad dressings, pasta sauces, smoothies, cheese sauces,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2542.66,"endTime":2546.95,"body":"soups, and like any other condiments you have like sour cream and mayo."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2546.95,"endTime":2551.39,"body":"But if you don't really care too much about protein, blended cashews are also"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2551.39,"endTime":2553.54,"body":"a good way to add creaminess to sauces and stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2554.32,"endTime":2559.56,"body":"just make sure you have a good blender because we made like a cashew mac and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2559.56,"endTime":2563.09,"body":"cheese before we got a Vitamix and it was like very gritty and it was like a"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2563.09,"endTime":2566.73,"body":"good blender and I soaked the shit out of those cashews and it was still gritty."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2566.73,"endTime":2570.63,"body":"Yeah, this is one of the things that actually, you know, convinced us that Vitamix is worth the hype."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2570.97,"endTime":2574.5,"body":"Yeah, cashews. Anything with cashews are going to be better in a Vitamix."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2575.35,"endTime":2578.51,"body":"So if you don't have the money to spend on a Vitamix and you don't want a gritty"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2578.51,"endTime":2581.11,"body":"texture, just use silken tofu. That's my opinion."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2581.67,"endTime":2585.35,"body":"If you are working with tofu a lot, You might need a tofu press to get some"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2585.35,"endTime":2587.28,"body":"of the water out and some of the different types of tofu."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2587.58,"endTime":2590.46,"body":"And if you don't want to get a tofu press, you can also just stack a bunch of"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2590.46,"endTime":2592.58,"body":"heavy books on top of your tofu to squeeze the water out."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2592.58,"endTime":2595.44,"body":"That's true. Our textbooks have to be good for something, right?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2595.44,"endTime":2599.17,"body":"We have like a whole shelf of old college textbooks that we don't look at."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2599.19,"endTime":2602.07,"body":"Yeah, and if you try to sell it, you'll get $20 for your $300 textbook."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2602.07,"endTime":2605.8,"body":"I know. That's why I held on to them. I was like, you're not making money off"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2605.8,"endTime":2610.67,"body":"this $200 textbook I bought last semester. And so now I have like 50 college"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2610.67,"endTime":2612.74,"body":"textbooks about random chemistry shit."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2613.46,"endTime":2617.53,"body":"that I probably, especially won't be reading now that I'm doing food blogging."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2621.14,"endTime":2625.47,"body":"Yeah, but so for the tofus that you would want to press, it would be like anything"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2625.47,"endTime":2628.2,"body":"that's not super firm tofu or silken tofu."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2628.6,"endTime":2632.29,"body":"Right. So your firm tofu, your extra firm tofu, you want to press those."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2632.29,"endTime":2635.5,"body":"Yeah, I don't think pressing silken tofu would work out for a while."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2636.16,"endTime":2640.18,"body":"Oh, if you do want to press silken tofu, though, you can freeze it first."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2640.18,"endTime":2640.73,"body":"Oh, yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2640.99,"endTime":2645.12,"body":"And then when you thaw it, it, I don't know, it's crazy. Like it unlocks a lot"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2645.12,"endTime":2649.58,"body":"of the water from it and then you can press it. Yeah. And it makes it look like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2649.58,"endTime":2655.02,"body":"it's so weird. It adds like these weird like layers. Yeah. It's very meaty."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2655.42,"endTime":2658.48,"body":"And also, oh, also you can do that with normal tofu too."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2658.83,"endTime":2664.35,"body":"Freezing and unfreezing and then pressing it actually gives it a meatier texture."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2664.35,"endTime":2664.74,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2664.74,"endTime":2668.33,"body":"So just keep that in your back pocket. But I can't even remember to press my"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2668.33,"endTime":2673.37,"body":"tofu beforehand. So I definitely rarely remember to freeze and unfreeze and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2673.37,"endTime":2677.33,"body":"then press my tofu. So that's why we buy super firm tofu."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2677.84,"endTime":2681.51,"body":"So speaking of tofu, a lot of people cube it, which..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2682.08,"endTime":2687.97,"body":"I don't mind. Cubing's fine. But I would also recommend you try shredding it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2688.27,"endTime":2690.1,"body":"with like a vegetable grater."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2690.29,"endTime":2690.6,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2690.98,"endTime":2697.52,"body":"Crumbling it by hand or like thinly slicing it, which you could do with a knife"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2697.52,"endTime":2698.68,"body":"if you're good at cutting things."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2698.68,"endTime":2703.44,"body":"Or you could buy like a wide vegetable peeler. But the reason these work so"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2703.44,"endTime":2707.79,"body":"well is because you're adding surface area to the tofu, which means that like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2707.79,"endTime":2710.63,"body":"more water can be released, which will give it a meatier texture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2710.63,"endTime":2713.03,"body":"but also you can get like spices to stick better."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2713.26,"endTime":2717.79,"body":"Yeah. Yeah. A big part of making tofu taste good is getting the spices to actually"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2717.79,"endTime":2720.86,"body":"like it here and soak into the tofu."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2721.25,"endTime":2725.76,"body":"And getting the water to release. Like if you don't want like a soggy, mushy texture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2725.76,"endTime":2729.63,"body":"So like more surface area is your friend. And if you're hell bent on the cubes,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2730.0,"endTime":2734.19,"body":"maybe try tearing it because if you tear it, you end up with all those like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2734.19,"endTime":2735.89,"body":"little ridges and stuff and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2736.18,"endTime":2740.29,"body":"things are going to stick better to that than like very very smooth lines that"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2740.29,"endTime":2743.68,"body":"you get from cutting with a knife yeah all right now that we covered tofu like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2743.68,"endTime":2745.16,"body":"some just high level tips on"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2745.5,"endTime":2748.53,"body":"seitan kneading it is going to make it more chewy"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2749.05,"endTime":2751.64,"body":"and over kneading it will make it rubbery so"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2751.64,"endTime":2752.18,"body":"Don't do that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2752.3,"endTime":2758.5,"body":"So you don't you don't want that um i've heard people use a food processor to"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2758.5,"endTime":2762.27,"body":"knead their seitan i've seen a lot of people talk about this like just chuck"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2762.27,"endTime":2767.23,"body":"it in the food processor to knead your seitan i did this and broke a food processor oh that's right"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2767.62,"endTime":2770.02,"body":"and so i don't know i wouldn't recommend that"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2771.24,"endTime":2775.18,"body":"i think you could um if you have like a stand mixer that would probably work"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2775.18,"endTime":2779.29,"body":"because it's used to needing like doughs and stuff but i personally i personally"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2779.29,"endTime":2782.28,"body":"would not recommend you use it in a food processor because there's a chance"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2782.28,"endTime":2785.66,"body":"it's gonna break your food processor it like burned the motor out completely"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2786.12,"endTime":2788.4,"body":"yeah i didn't even have it in there that long so"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2789.48,"endTime":2791.21,"body":"That's a thing I wouldn't recommend."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2794.92,"endTime":2800.39,"body":"Wrapping your seitan dough in parchment paper and then aluminum foil keeps it from expanding."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2800.91,"endTime":2805.43,"body":"And that will prevent your seitan from going bready. Now, I make a lot of bready"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2805.43,"endTime":2809.96,"body":"things with seitan. But this is specifically advice if you're making like meaty seitan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2811.06,"endTime":2815.85,"body":"Because it's like a dough, you know, and it's wheat gluten."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2816.08,"endTime":2822.15,"body":"it has the propensity to like expand and get like airy and doughy so you really"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2822.15,"endTime":2826.57,"body":"need to think of ways that you can keep it from expanding to keep it like dense"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2826.83,"endTime":2829.57,"body":"you know that's like the main thing is like keep it constricted"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2830.05,"endTime":2835.86,"body":"um so double wrapping it is a good method you can also so sometimes i'll make"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2835.86,"endTime":2840.89,"body":"like i have a barbecue seitan recipe on my site yeah but if you saute"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2841.36,"endTime":2845.76,"body":"like the dough first on both sides it kind of keeps it from expanding as well"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2845.76,"endTime":2846.95,"body":"so that'll keep it from getting"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2847.43,"endTime":2850.96,"body":"light and airy too and then on that note vital wheat gluten isn't just for meat"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2850.96,"endTime":2855.41,"body":"replacements which you already know if you've ever looked at any of my recipes i use it for like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2855.94,"endTime":2860.22,"body":"bready stuff yeah desserts and also like bready desserts yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2860.22,"endTime":2864.04,"body":"We just finished a loaf of um pumpkin bread like high protein pumpkin bread made from."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2864.04,"endTime":2869.83,"body":"Vital wheat gluten yeah so the key is like okay so if you're going to use it for like bready stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2870.6,"endTime":2875.69,"body":"You don't really want to go more than like maybe a one to two ratio of vital wheat gluten to flour."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2875.69,"endTime":2879.32,"body":"So like one part vital wheat gluten to two parts flour. Anything more than that's"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2879.32,"endTime":2882.64,"body":"going to lead it more towards like the seitan. So that's for like breads,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2882.64,"endTime":2885.72,"body":"pizza doughs, pretzels, bagels, blah, blah, blah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2886.67,"endTime":2890.87,"body":"But if you're going to do, like, desserts, I like to go full vital wheat gluten."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2891.27,"endTime":2896.15,"body":"And the way that I keep it from being, like, meaty seitan is to add ingredients"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2896.15,"endTime":2900.09,"body":"that will, like, disrupt the gluten formation. So things like sugar are really"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2900.09,"endTime":2904.68,"body":"good about that, syrup, mashed bananas, stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2905.3,"endTime":2908.45,"body":"Kind of disrupts the gluten structure from forming all the way."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2908.45,"endTime":2910.73,"body":"And I also make sure I use leavening agents."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2911.05,"endTime":2912.13,"body":"Yeah. What does that do?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2912.9,"endTime":2917.05,"body":"It, like, adds airy springiness to it. So that's why the bread, like."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2917.05,"endTime":2918.02,"body":"So it's not stodgy."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2918.38,"endTime":2924.74,"body":"Yeah, it's not stodgy. It doesn't remind you of meat. It's nice and airy and it looks like bread."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2924.96,"endTime":2925.19,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2925.37,"endTime":2929.81,"body":"And it's still like a little chewier than not vital weak gluten stuff,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2929.81,"endTime":2932.27,"body":"but like taste wise, it tastes about the same."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2932.7,"endTime":2935.95,"body":"Yeah. And I would say like as long as you're disrupting the gluten formation"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2935.95,"endTime":2939.13,"body":"and making sure you're adding leavening agents, it's also actually not that chewy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2939.13,"endTime":2943.34,"body":"I agree. I really like the bready type stuff that you've been doing with it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2943.34,"endTime":2946.28,"body":"And then just a couple of tips on TVP."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2946.7,"endTime":2949.84,"body":"So I know there are like different methods for rehydrating TVP,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2949.84,"endTime":2956.29,"body":"but me personally, I like to put dry TVP in a pan with my water and all my spices"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2956.29,"endTime":2961.53,"body":"and mix that up really well before I ever add heat to make sure the spices are all distributed well."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2962.09,"endTime":2966.62,"body":"And then if you've ever done that, you'll notice that like it sticks to your"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2966.62,"endTime":2968.88,"body":"pan, no matter how nonstick your pan is."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2969.35,"endTime":2974.36,"body":"So I definitely recommend like a wooden spatula for like, I don't know,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2974.36,"endTime":2976.74,"body":"scraping your pan without destroying your pan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2977.22,"endTime":2982.75,"body":"And then TVP is also great for like baked goods or if you want to replace half"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2982.75,"endTime":2985.55,"body":"of your oats with TVP and oatmeal."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2986.52,"endTime":2990.4,"body":"It's also good for like high-protein breadcrumbs or making your own high-protein"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2990.4,"endTime":2993.06,"body":"granola. Yeah. What's your favorite way to eat, TBP?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":2993.06,"endTime":2995.57,"body":"Muffins. Muffins? My favorite way is muffins."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":2995.57,"endTime":3000.26,"body":"That's mine too. A perfect, easy, high-protein breakfast."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3001.42,"endTime":3006.26,"body":"And then on the protein realm, like just swapping pasta for protein pasta."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3006.97,"endTime":3010.78,"body":"Anytime you eat pasta is like a great way to add extra protein without really changing much."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3010.93,"endTime":3014.63,"body":"You know, like if you are just going vegan and you have a lot of favorite meals,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3014.63,"endTime":3017.44,"body":"but you're not really like super focused on protein, but you want to make sure"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3017.44,"endTime":3021.41,"body":"you're getting enough protein. Right. I think the protein pasta swaps, a really easy one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3021.66,"endTime":3024.95,"body":"Yeah. Stuff like that, the protein, this is a little slightly off topic,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3025.23,"endTime":3029.53,"body":"but the stuff like that with the protein pasta swaps is also good for people"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3029.53,"endTime":3031.2,"body":"who are taking those new weight loss drugs."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3031.72,"endTime":3034.75,"body":"Because you're not really like doing the fitness thing necessarily,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3034.75,"endTime":3037.4,"body":"but you're getting a little less calories. So just swap in something that you're"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3037.4,"endTime":3039.87,"body":"going to normally eat anyway. Like if you're, when you can eat food,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3039.87,"endTime":3043.04,"body":"when you're hungry on that drug, you can do something like protein pasta to"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3043.04,"endTime":3043.84,"body":"just get a little extra protein."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3043.84,"endTime":3044.99,"body":"Yeah, that's a good point."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3044.99,"endTime":3047.63,"body":"So a lot of products, you've seen a lot of products come out now that's like"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3047.94,"endTime":3050.96,"body":"the same thing, but protein. And a lot of that is because of those drugs."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3051.14,"endTime":3054.23,"body":"A lot of those are pretty bullshit, though. Like the protein Pop-Tarts."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3054.23,"endTime":3056.19,"body":"It's got like, okay, come on."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3056.36,"endTime":3058.92,"body":"Yeah, you go from one gram to three grams and now you have protein Pop-Tarts."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3058.92,"endTime":3063.42,"body":"Like you have the same percentage of protein as a potato. You're not a protein Pop-Tart. Yeah, yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3063.64,"endTime":3065.54,"body":"No, definitely. That's definitely happening."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3065.85,"endTime":3068.88,"body":"But like I think protein pasta is a good one because it's usually like 30 to"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3068.88,"endTime":3073.67,"body":"40 percent protein. Yeah. Or like low-carb wraps are another good one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3073.67,"endTime":3075.04,"body":"Oh, those are so good for that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3075.04,"endTime":3080.43,"body":"And then, you know, some other like little whole food kind of high protein snack"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3080.43,"endTime":3085.36,"body":"options would be like dry roasted edamame are really good. And so are those bada beans."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3085.36,"endTime":3087.06,"body":"Oh, yeah. The bada beans are really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3087.06,"endTime":3092.42,"body":"Another ingredient you maybe haven't heard of too much is edamame puffs. So I like to use."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3092.58,"endTime":3094.95,"body":"Don't tell anybody else about them. We won't be able to order them anymore."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3095.36,"endTime":3097.72,"body":"I make sure we have stock before I ever mention them. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3100.45,"endTime":3105.16,"body":"But edamame puffs are great. They're made from basically like soy protein and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3105.16,"endTime":3110.17,"body":"a little bit of rice starch and they puff up. And I use them in the same way I use puffed rice."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3110.17,"endTime":3110.53,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3110.69,"endTime":3115.21,"body":"So basically rice krispies or like homemade granola bars or homemade protein"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3115.21,"endTime":3118.88,"body":"powder, homemade protein bars, that kind of thing. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3119.47,"endTime":3122.34,"body":"I don't know. They're like my favorite ingredient. They're so good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3122.34,"endTime":3124.52,"body":"Homemade puppy chow that you can eat for cereal."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3124.52,"endTime":3127.97,"body":"Yeah, man, the puppy chow is so good. And then obviously the rice krispie treats"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3127.97,"endTime":3129.25,"body":"are like outstanding. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3129.76,"endTime":3132.56,"body":"Yeah. So we like edamame puffs. You should like edamame puffs."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3132.56,"endTime":3137.63,"body":"Also, money wise, they're pretty cheap on a dollar per gram of protein basis."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3137.63,"endTime":3140.11,"body":"If you're in the US, I don't really know about outside the US."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3140.11,"endTime":3145.13,"body":"But anyways, those are like some of my cooking pieces of advice,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3145.13,"endTime":3146.2,"body":"I guess. Random thoughts."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3147.08,"endTime":3149.32,"body":"Stream of consciousness on vegan cooking."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3152.24,"endTime":3154.26,"body":"Take it or leave it. I don't know if it's useful."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3154.74,"endTime":3155.54,"body":"Definitely good tips."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3156.58,"endTime":3159.31,"body":"And then for like just some more helpful kitchen type stuff,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3160.08,"endTime":3165.9,"body":"having a good blender, I think, was the biggest thing for me when I went vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3165.9,"endTime":3169.84,"body":"Yeah. Again, we were looking at Vitamix and we're like, oh, really? How much better is this?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3169.98,"endTime":3170.9,"body":"They're so expensive."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3170.9,"endTime":3175.91,"body":"I don't know. But, yeah, I mean, unfortunately, they're much better than other blenders."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3175.91,"endTime":3179.54,"body":"I know. It's really annoying when like the expensive thing is actually worth"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3179.54,"endTime":3181.46,"body":"the hype. I know. It's very irritating."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3181.96,"endTime":3184.8,"body":"They have pretty good sales on Black Friday, though. So like put it on your"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3184.8,"endTime":3188.47,"body":"wish list. If you don't have one, I do think it's the best blender and it does"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3188.47,"endTime":3191.42,"body":"what it says it does and it is better. And I'm sorry for that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3193.91,"endTime":3200.9,"body":"Um, also, uh, you can use a steaming basket, um, for the, you mainly use it for seitan, I think."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3201.25,"endTime":3203.44,"body":"But you can also steam vegetables and stuff with it. That's true."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3203.44,"endTime":3204.41,"body":"It's good to have around."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3204.77,"endTime":3209.45,"body":"Yeah. I have those, uh, I think they're bamboo based. Yeah. But they,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3209.45,"endTime":3212.92,"body":"they're like, they stack on top of a pot that I have. Yeah. But they also have"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3213.26,"endTime":3216.25,"body":"collapsible metal ones that kind of fit in whatever pot. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3216.25,"endTime":3218.76,"body":"And so I would recommend that as like a cheap option."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3218.76,"endTime":3220.95,"body":"You just put some water in the bottom. You set the thing on top."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3220.95,"endTime":3223.83,"body":"It sits a couple inches above the water, and then all the steam cooks what you"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3223.83,"endTime":3226.65,"body":"have in the basket. Really simple. And very cheap."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3227.07,"endTime":3231.06,"body":"Very cheap. And then the next one is you hear a lot about air fryers."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3231.73,"endTime":3237.57,"body":"And I like my air fryer, but I rarely use it, to be honest. And I know a lot of people use it more."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3237.94,"endTime":3240.45,"body":"And I also think a lot of people use it just because they don't want to turn"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3240.45,"endTime":3242.72,"body":"on the oven because it's a lot faster. And that makes sense to me."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3242.78,"endTime":3243.6,"body":"Yeah, yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3243.94,"endTime":3248.06,"body":"But if you don't really mind turning on your oven and you want the same kind"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3248.06,"endTime":3251.47,"body":"of performance of an air fryer, I really like a copper crisping tray."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3251.96,"endTime":3256.25,"body":"It's got like a lot of holes in it. So you get like kind of the same airflow"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3256.25,"endTime":3258.25,"body":"situation as you would inside of an air fryer."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3258.61,"endTime":3262.02,"body":"Yeah, I've never tried these even before I saw yours, but they would have been"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3262.02,"endTime":3263.38,"body":"nice to have my whole life."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3263.9,"endTime":3266.99,"body":"They just like cook stuff really evenly. It kind of gives it that little bit"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3266.99,"endTime":3269.66,"body":"of fried texture on the outside, even if you don't use oil and stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3270.24,"endTime":3272.41,"body":"Yeah, you don't really have to like flip stuff over in it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3272.41,"endTime":3272.68,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3273.04,"endTime":3277.76,"body":"I don't know. My grandma always had one because she really liked frozen junk"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3277.76,"endTime":3280.24,"body":"food. She really liked French fries, right?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3281.8,"endTime":3285.18,"body":"They're so good for French fries. But yeah, she just chucked French fries in"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3285.18,"endTime":3287.34,"body":"them and then she got me one for Christmas one year and I was like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3287.34,"endTime":3289.17,"body":"holy shit, now we have three because..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3289.83,"endTime":3293.22,"body":"I cook a lot, so. Yeah. But they're a lot cheaper than an air fryer."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3293.41,"endTime":3296.5,"body":"Yeah. Oh, for sure. And it'll probably last a lot longer."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3296.5,"endTime":3297.05,"body":"Probably."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3297.59,"endTime":3298.27,"body":"Yeah. Probably outlive you."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3298.71,"endTime":3299.53,"body":"They probably will."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3299.53,"endTime":3301.56,"body":"I don't know about the coating on the outside. We have a couple that are kind"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3301.56,"endTime":3303.62,"body":"of chipping. Yeah. But the actual basket itself."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3303.62,"endTime":3305.83,"body":"But just be gentle. I'm not very gentle with things."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3307.93,"endTime":3314.19,"body":"Next, a kitchen scale can be good for both preparing food and tracking your calories. So. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3314.79,"endTime":3318.17,"body":"There are a lot of powders and stuff when you're baking where you can't really"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3318.17,"endTime":3320.57,"body":"use the measuring cups. can't really use the spoons because you're not going"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3320.57,"endTime":3322.67,"body":"to get a very accurate measurement. Yeah. So you just, you know,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3322.67,"endTime":3326.23,"body":"put your bowl on the scale, measure out 200 grams of flour or whatever you have"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3326.23,"endTime":3327.99,"body":"going on and you're off to the races."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3328.33,"endTime":3331.36,"body":"I think this is especially important if you're cooking with vital wheat gluten"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3331.36,"endTime":3334.58,"body":"specifically because it's so dense. But I think protein powders,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3334.95,"endTime":3336.61,"body":"protein powders are like kind of crazy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3336.61,"endTime":3341.11,"body":"You know what? Actually, I just had so, okay, this is also a little off topic, but I just had,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3342.01,"endTime":3346.12,"body":"the Veganuary giveaway for personal training and I had a client that I was just"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3346.12,"endTime":3347.8,"body":"talking to a couple days ago and"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3347.8,"endTime":3351.83,"body":"he told me that he's been using protein powder for a while the same one,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3352.27,"endTime":3357.13,"body":"and he thought that he was getting like 40 or 60 grams out of his scoops because"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3357.13,"endTime":3358.28,"body":"he was doing a couple servings"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3358.68,"endTime":3361.85,"body":"but it actually turns out he went and measured it one time and it was so far"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3361.85,"endTime":3365.51,"body":"off that what he thought was like 50 to 60 grams was actually only 20 grams"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3365.51,"endTime":3368.16,"body":"that's crazy the scoop itself was so inaccurate."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3368.66,"endTime":3371.86,"body":"Yeah, the scoops they give you are garbage. Like, so if you're really,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3371.86,"endTime":3376.1,"body":"really tracking specifically protein powder, you should definitely be weighing"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3376.1,"endTime":3379.35,"body":"that shit because their scoops are, they're just not good."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3379.35,"endTime":3382.52,"body":"I know. I did a little short video on it like a year or two ago,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3382.52,"endTime":3385.98,"body":"and the one I looked at was off by like 50%. It was pretty significant."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3385.98,"endTime":3387.52,"body":"Yeah, you looked at a few of them."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3387.52,"endTime":3389.79,"body":"Yeah. And they were all off. Every one I looked at was all off."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3389.79,"endTime":3391.48,"body":"The worst offender was like 50% off."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3391.48,"endTime":3394.93,"body":"Yeah, some of them will be off in the direction of like, oh no,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3394.93,"endTime":3398.46,"body":"you ate 50% more calories. And someone will be off of like, actually,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3399.12,"endTime":3400.26,"body":"you hardly eat anything."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3400.39,"endTime":3401.46,"body":"Yeah, it's pretty bad."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3401.46,"endTime":3402.54,"body":"And you never know what it's going to be."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3402.54,"endTime":3405.88,"body":"Kitchen scale is a very helpful tool. So now that we know a little more about"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3405.88,"endTime":3408.36,"body":"cooking in general, what to keep in the kitchen, some alternatives,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3408.36,"endTime":3411.73,"body":"things like that, maybe the next thing you'll be asked and the next thing you"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3411.73,"endTime":3414.34,"body":"might ask yourself when you try to switch to a vegan diet is,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3414.34,"endTime":3416.94,"body":"okay, where do you get your protein? Where do I get my protein? Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3417.76,"endTime":3421.01,"body":"So this is a hard one to figure out if you're like new to vegan food."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3421.01,"endTime":3421.86,"body":"For sure. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3421.86,"endTime":3422.58,"body":"It took me a while."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3422.58,"endTime":3425.85,"body":"Mainly because a lot of the things we end up using for primary protein sources"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3425.85,"endTime":3427.9,"body":"are things you don't use at all if you're not a vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3428.22,"endTime":3432.52,"body":"Oh, and like if you're just like mainstream looking, like this is really for"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3432.52,"endTime":3435.54,"body":"if you're focused on protein, right? Right. Because if you're just looking at"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3435.54,"endTime":3438.47,"body":"mainstream recipe blogs, a lot of this stuff isn't even in there."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3438.66,"endTime":3439.63,"body":"Yeah. You know what I mean?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3440.08,"endTime":3442.69,"body":"Like you're not going to really know a lot of this stuff. They're not really"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3442.69,"endTime":3444.22,"body":"focused on protein, which is fine."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3444.33,"endTime":3447.31,"body":"Like and if you're not focused on protein, maybe you don't need this section."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3447.31,"endTime":3451.99,"body":"But, like, these are, like, basically we've tried every protein thing on the"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3451.99,"endTime":3454.85,"body":"internet. Yeah. And these are the ones that we keep in our house."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3455.02,"endTime":3458.01,"body":"Yeah. So the big one is going to be soy proteins."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3458.01,"endTime":3462.26,"body":"Yeah, which makes up a lot of, like, the proteins that we use."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3462.26,"endTime":3466.64,"body":"So soy is actually the highest quality protein we have available to us as a"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3466.64,"endTime":3468.19,"body":"vegan. You know, it's a complete protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3468.82,"endTime":3472.54,"body":"It's very similar to, like, the animal source proteins as far as quality,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3472.54,"endTime":3473.82,"body":"digestibility, all that stuff."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3474.58,"endTime":3478.03,"body":"So I would recommend if you're interested in protein, try to focus on the soy protein."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3478.03,"endTime":3481.61,"body":"Yeah. And it has a very neutral flavor. So it works really well in a lot of"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3481.61,"endTime":3485.18,"body":"recipes because you can just kind of make it taste like whatever you want."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3485.18,"endTime":3485.48,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3486.23,"endTime":3487.85,"body":"Do you have some examples of soy protein?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3488.34,"endTime":3492.07,"body":"I have many examples. Let's go. So my first one, silken tofu."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3492.18,"endTime":3493.67,"body":"Yeah. I knew you were going to say that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3493.68,"endTime":3494.66,"body":"Yeah, I knew you knew."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3494.82,"endTime":3496.37,"body":"And not just because it's on the note in front of me."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3496.37,"endTime":3499.34,"body":"I think I am the biggest pusher of silken tofu on the internet. I don't know."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3500.66,"endTime":3504.53,"body":"And I make no money off of it, which please, silken tofu, give me money."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3505.8,"endTime":3510.74,"body":"But it's great, like, blended for high-protein sauces or dressings or literally"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3510.74,"endTime":3514.8,"body":"anything that you want to be creamy. Silken tofu. Yeah, it's great to add to smoothies."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3514.8,"endTime":3515.12,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3516.12,"endTime":3521.01,"body":"Next up would be just regular tofu, which comes in super firm, extra firm, firm."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3521.14,"endTime":3524.92,"body":"All have their own use cases, but really good. I think it's like a pretty good"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3524.92,"endTime":3529.45,"body":"like meat substitute as far as like a whole food plant-based meat substitute."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3529.74,"endTime":3532.01,"body":"Yeah. And we kind of already talked about the ways you might use that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3532.26,"endTime":3537.06,"body":"Next would be textured vegetable protein or a TVP, which is one of my personal favorites."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3537.55,"endTime":3541.94,"body":"It's good for savory stuff and also baking. Soy curls is one we,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3542.38,"endTime":3545.37,"body":"I've heard a lot about it, but I only, like, recently started using it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3545.37,"endTime":3547.53,"body":"Oh, yeah, the soy curls are, they're pretty good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3547.53,"endTime":3552.22,"body":"So they're kind of, like, really big TVP chunks, more or less."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3552.72,"endTime":3555.69,"body":"Yeah. Basically, you just soak them in water for 10 minutes and then squeeze"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3555.69,"endTime":3558.8,"body":"out the water, add spices, and you can eat it in, like, tacos or,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3558.8,"endTime":3563.26,"body":"like, on top of a pizza or, I don't know, however else you would want to eat, something like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3563.6,"endTime":3567.96,"body":"Yeah. Like, the size of, like, I don't know, like, chicken strips, basically. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3568.59,"endTime":3571.82,"body":"I don't have like a good comparison in the meat world, but yeah,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3571.82,"endTime":3574.03,"body":"eat it in the way you would eat meat chunks. It's really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3574.21,"endTime":3575.54,"body":"And it's high in fiber too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3575.84,"endTime":3579.53,"body":"Right. Also, there is Say Grace, which is a brand name."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3580.45,"endTime":3583.2,"body":"And you have to describe it by the brand name because it's the only thing that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3583.2,"endTime":3586.47,"body":"exists that is like it. And they just call it like Say Grace chunks."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3586.88,"endTime":3590.98,"body":"But what it effectively is, is like super concentrated soy protein in the shape"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3590.98,"endTime":3592.91,"body":"of like meat chunks, basically."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3592.91,"endTime":3595.89,"body":"Yeah. They have a couple of different shapes. Like they have bits,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3595.89,"endTime":3601.98,"body":"shreds, filets, nuggets, and I think maybe one or two others. Yeah. But it's like."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3602.74,"endTime":3607.89,"body":"And it's basically just a super concentrated form of TVP chunks. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3608.89,"endTime":3613.21,"body":"You do need to boil this one. So it does add a little bit of time to it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3613.53,"endTime":3617.06,"body":"So keep that in mind if you're like looking into it. But it's 90% protein, which is insane."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3617.06,"endTime":3621.5,"body":"Extremely high protein for a food. Yeah. A dry roasted edamame is one of my favorites."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3621.94,"endTime":3626.32,"body":"They're good to keep around for snacks. You can get them in basically little single serving bags."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3626.7,"endTime":3628.89,"body":"Yeah. Or like a big tub. Yeah. Or you can make your own."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3628.89,"endTime":3630.84,"body":"Yeah. Or you can make your own. Yeah. Very high protein."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3630.84,"endTime":3635.01,"body":"They're good on top of like salads to add a little crunch. I like when it's a snack."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3635.01,"endTime":3638.61,"body":"If you're somebody who likes snacking on like nuts and seeds and stuff,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3638.61,"endTime":3641.41,"body":"maybe swap that out a couple of times for the dry roasted edamame."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3641.41,"endTime":3644.35,"body":"Very similar like crunchy snack, but high protein."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3644.35,"endTime":3647.9,"body":"And they have different flavors. I'm like obsessed with the dill flavored one right now."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3647.9,"endTime":3649.86,"body":"Yeah. Oh, the dill, the ranch. There's a couple of dill."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3649.9,"endTime":3652.61,"body":"Yeah, there's a lot of really good ones. So next up is tempeh,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3652.94,"endTime":3654.38,"body":"which we haven't done much with."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3654.83,"endTime":3658.0,"body":"But I think the whole food plant-based crowd really likes this one,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3658.0,"endTime":3661.21,"body":"I think a little bit more. So I don't really have any recommendations on how to use tempeh."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3661.47,"endTime":3663.42,"body":"There's lots of recipes out there for tempeh."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3663.42,"endTime":3666.81,"body":"There are people who really like it. I've tried a couple different ones."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3666.81,"endTime":3668.32,"body":"I just, I don't like it yet."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3668.62,"endTime":3671.44,"body":"I'm sure I'll find one eventually that I like, but I'm not there yet."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3671.44,"endTime":3673.98,"body":"We just always choose tofu over it. I don't know. For no reason. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3674.99,"endTime":3679.06,"body":"Anyways, the next one's edamame puffs, which we kind of talked about already."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3679.48,"endTime":3684.07,"body":"It's like, yeah, soy protein in puff form. Great for homemade protein bars,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3684.07,"endTime":3685.7,"body":"rice crispy treats, blah, blah, blah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3685.92,"endTime":3691.26,"body":"Yeah, they're really good. Soy milk also. You know, there are a couple of different"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3691.26,"endTime":3693.9,"body":"types of plant-based milk. Soy milk is the one with the highest protein content."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3694.02,"endTime":3699.27,"body":"Yeah, it's 35% to 40% protein, which is, I think, pretty similar to dairy milk."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3699.27,"endTime":3702.51,"body":"Yeah, we went back and forth. We started out using like an almond milk,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3702.51,"endTime":3704.72,"body":"and then we kind of went to oat milk to get a little more creaminess."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3704.72,"endTime":3706.55,"body":"And now we've kind of settled on soy milk being our go-to."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3706.92,"endTime":3709.71,"body":"Yeah, soy milk's my favorite. It was like the original, you know,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3709.71,"endTime":3714.34,"body":"like plant-based milk option. And I think it should have stayed the only one."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3714.34,"endTime":3716.28,"body":"I don't know. I mean, if you can eat soy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3716.28,"endTime":3716.94,"body":"Right. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3718.24,"endTime":3721.28,"body":"And then lastly, this one doesn't get talked about much, but soy flour."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3721.73,"endTime":3724.9,"body":"This is like defatted soy flour and I use it in some baking."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3725.22,"endTime":3726.74,"body":"Like it works really well as like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3728.81,"endTime":3733.28,"body":"I don't use it fully, but I'll do like half and half flour to soy flour for"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3733.28,"endTime":3735.72,"body":"something that's going to be kind of dense anyways, like brownies."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3736.32,"endTime":3738.9,"body":"It's a good way to add protein to a baked good recipe."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3738.9,"endTime":3742.74,"body":"Yeah. So those are a lot of your soy-based options. Again, if you can,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3742.74,"endTime":3745.36,"body":"if you don't have an issue, I would try to focus mostly on that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3745.69,"endTime":3749.11,"body":"But there are a lot of people who have a soy allergy. So let's talk about some"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3749.11,"endTime":3751.85,"body":"of these soy-free substitutions or alternatives. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3752.27,"endTime":3756.38,"body":"So soy-free tofu is a big one. They make fava bean tofu, which is about,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3756.38,"endTime":3759.21,"body":"I think, 90% protein. The macros are insane. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3760.07,"endTime":3764.37,"body":"They also make a pumpkin seed tofu and a chickpea tofu. Those,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3764.55,"endTime":3767.71,"body":"the last two don't have great macros and they're also kind of pricey."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3767.86,"endTime":3768.42,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3768.72,"endTime":3773.27,"body":"So I think if you're soy free and you can eat fava beans, I would probably stick"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3773.27,"endTime":3775.01,"body":"with the fava tofu if you're worried about protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3775.01,"endTime":3775.7,"body":"If you can find it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3775.7,"endTime":3776.55,"body":"If you can find it, yeah. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3777.22,"endTime":3780.93,"body":"Uh, the next one would be like TPP, textured pea protein, which is basically"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3780.93,"endTime":3783.7,"body":"a direct substitute for textured vegetable protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3783.7,"endTime":3785.47,"body":"Yeah. I think that's a really good option."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3785.6,"endTime":3785.89,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3786.26,"endTime":3790.1,"body":"Um, and then pea protein puffs, kind of similar to the edamame puffs. Yep."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3790.28,"endTime":3793.66,"body":"You can use them pretty much the same way. Yep. And yeah, they kind of have"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3793.66,"endTime":3798.26,"body":"like, they have similar macros. They, the, the pea options are a little bit more expensive."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3798.26,"endTime":3801.38,"body":"Yeah. And then some of the items you might keep around in the pantry,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3801.38,"endTime":3806.97,"body":"uh, PBfit is a big one. It's so think of it as like a higher protein replacement for peanut butter."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3807.47,"endTime":3810.26,"body":"They have both a powder version and a spread version."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3810.4,"endTime":3816.79,"body":"And if you can't find PBFit, PB2 also makes those as well. I think the macros are slightly less good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3817.09,"endTime":3820.15,"body":"But if you don't want a name brand option and you want something cheaper,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3820.85,"endTime":3824.21,"body":"they do just make peanut powder. Make sure it's defatted, which it kind of has"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3824.21,"endTime":3826.2,"body":"to be defatted. Otherwise, it would turn into peanut butter."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3826.2,"endTime":3830.21,"body":"I think Anthony's makes one that's like cheaper. There are a couple other brands as well."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3830.21,"endTime":3833.35,"body":"And then protein powder. Obviously, if you're kind of hit a protein target,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3833.35,"endTime":3834.81,"body":"you keep protein powder in the pantry."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3835.26,"endTime":3837.35,"body":"A lot of the protein powders are going to be a blend. And so they're all going"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3837.35,"endTime":3841.51,"body":"to be high quality as far as like complete protein. And you can do brown rice protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3842.63,"endTime":3846.97,"body":"There are a couple that are soy specific, soy protein. So, yeah,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3847.32,"endTime":3849.07,"body":"a lot of options out there for a protein powder."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3849.41,"endTime":3852.09,"body":"Yeah. And I know a lot of people right now are asking about the lead thing."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3852.47,"endTime":3857.89,"body":"Yeah. So there was that consumer reports thing that came out that said basically"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3857.89,"endTime":3861.2,"body":"plant protein powders have a higher level of lead."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3861.47,"endTime":3863.6,"body":"And they used kind of a very low"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3863.6,"endTime":3867.93,"body":"threshold for lead. kind of comes out of California, Prop 65 guidelines."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3869.18,"endTime":3872.32,"body":"You know, I'm not a doctor. I'm not a lead expert. But from what I've seen from"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3872.32,"endTime":3875.97,"body":"the people who are experts in this, it seems like that threshold that they used"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3875.97,"endTime":3879.91,"body":"was significantly lower than something like the FDA would normally use."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3881.01,"endTime":3884.72,"body":"And it doesn't seem like they are really going up to a problematic level."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3885.09,"endTime":3887.71,"body":"And, you know, it'd be better if all of our food had no lead."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3887.71,"endTime":3888.56,"body":"Wouldn't that be nice?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3888.56,"endTime":3892.62,"body":"But that's not really an option. I mean, there's a small amount of lead in a lot of food. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3893.94,"endTime":3897.52,"body":"So, what I can say is that based on what I've read and what I've heard from,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3897.52,"endTime":3902.57,"body":"you know, experts that I trust on this, I'm not really changing any of the protein powders that I use."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3902.57,"endTime":3905.66,"body":"So, you make your own decisions on that kind of thing, read a little more about"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3905.66,"endTime":3909.61,"body":"it. But it does seem like they used a really conservative number for that study."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3910.0,"endTime":3912.36,"body":"And which ones, like, which ones do you usually use?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3912.36,"endTime":3917.78,"body":"I use mostly Ghost now. They have a vegan line. They have a vegan cinnabon flavor that I really like."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3918.7,"endTime":3922.94,"body":"Orgain, if you are concerned about the lead levels, orgain is a really popular"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3922.94,"endTime":3925.44,"body":"one that was also pretty low in the lead levels on that test."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3925.44,"endTime":3926.84,"body":"So you can still stick with orgain."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3926.84,"endTime":3930.03,"body":"Orgain's my favorite, and I hate protein powders, so..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3931.29,"endTime":3935.69,"body":"Okay. Next up would be Vital Wheat Gluten is a great pantry item because you"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3935.69,"endTime":3939.12,"body":"can make your own meat replacements or you can just add protein to like baked"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3939.12,"endTime":3940.66,"body":"goods and stuff like we talked about before."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3940.8,"endTime":3941.03,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3941.58,"endTime":3945.72,"body":"But yeah, it's actually a really cheap option, at least in the US."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3945.72,"endTime":3949.72,"body":"Protein pasta, which we've also mentioned before, but that's a really good pantry item to keep."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3950.06,"endTime":3953.12,"body":"They make lentil pasta, which is our favorite."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3954.09,"endTime":3961.23,"body":"They make chickpea, black bean, edamame, lupini. They make blends of different bean pastas."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3961.63,"endTime":3964.49,"body":"Yeah, and I don't find that they taste much different at all than a normal pasta. No."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3964.81,"endTime":3967.66,"body":"Especially when you get into an actual recipe. Like maybe if I was sitting there"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3967.9,"endTime":3970.92,"body":"eating pieces of pasta next to each other, I would notice. But inside an actual"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3970.92,"endTime":3972.04,"body":"dish, I can't tell the difference."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3972.04,"endTime":3976.53,"body":"Yeah, you kind of notice the bites a little bit different if you have leftovers, I feel like."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3977.03,"endTime":3977.45,"body":"Yeah, I can see that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3977.95,"endTime":3981.39,"body":"But I don't know. I like them. They don't bother me, so I eat them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3983.13,"endTime":3986.57,"body":"Next is nutritional yeast. That's also like a shelf-stable item."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3986.57,"endTime":3990.49,"body":"It adds cheesiness, but it also adds protein. So I recommend having that on hand."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3990.87,"endTime":3991.34,"body":"Lots of it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3991.53,"endTime":3993.1,"body":"Lots of it. So much of it."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3993.1,"endTime":3995.02,"body":"A big favorite of mine is beans."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":3995.24,"endTime":3997.42,"body":"We've been eating so many beans lately."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":3997.86,"endTime":4001.23,"body":"Yeah. You can get dried beans extremely cheap. You do have to do a little bit"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4001.23,"endTime":4003.29,"body":"of prep with them by soaking them and things like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4003.61,"endTime":4006.84,"body":"But you can also get canned beans pretty cheap. And you can,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4006.84,"endTime":4008.74,"body":"you know, use them in all kinds of stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4009.12,"endTime":4015.39,"body":"Yeah. So basically, I somehow got onto BeanTok, which is like this bean propaganda"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4015.73,"endTime":4020.71,"body":"part of TikTok, where like hot girls eat beans right so like yeah"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4021.16,"endTime":4025.71,"body":"i'm gonna eat beans then so then we've been making bean bowls which i don't"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4025.71,"endTime":4030.92,"body":"know even really what to call them and it probably will never go on the recipe website but basically"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4031.62,"endTime":4036.37,"body":"it's a half a can of black beans with a little bit of black bean juice this"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4036.37,"endTime":4040.83,"body":"is part important and then you do two tablespoons of nutritional yeast"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4041.52,"endTime":4046.15,"body":"And a half of a teaspoon of taco seasoning. You mix that really, really good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4046.63,"endTime":4049.79,"body":"And then you sprinkle some like vegan shredded cheese on top."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4049.79,"endTime":4051.87,"body":"And you throw in the microwave for a minute to a minute and a half."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4051.87,"endTime":4056.08,"body":"And then it comes out as like, I don't know, cheesy beans. It's really good."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4057.14,"endTime":4061.89,"body":"Now, if you've been a loyal listener, I might ask you to recall earlier episodes"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4062.15,"endTime":4065.23,"body":"where I've been made fun of for eating bowls of beans."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4065.23,"endTime":4068.86,"body":"Because he didn't do any. He didn't season them, guys. It's not the same."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4070.16,"endTime":4072.55,"body":"Anyway i would just like to say i won the battle or."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4072.55,"endTime":4075.6,"body":"My bean bowls better than your bowls of naked"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4075.6,"endTime":4077.28,"body":"Beans well yeah definitely."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4077.28,"endTime":4080.77,"body":"Oh okay so it looks like i won but they're good"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4080.77,"endTime":4081.9,"body":"Right they're great yeah we."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4081.9,"endTime":4083.32,"body":"Had them we just had them an hour ago"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4083.64,"endTime":4087.14,"body":"It's really simple it keeps you full like whenever we do a bean this bean bowl"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4087.14,"endTime":4091.01,"body":"thing in the morning i feel like i just forget food exists until late in the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4091.01,"endTime":4092.14,"body":"afternoon at least it's great."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4092.14,"endTime":4093.62,"body":"Yeah we've been eating them for breakfast."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4095.22,"endTime":4099.94,"body":"Lentils also kind of closely related to beans. You can use those in soups is"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4099.94,"endTime":4102.32,"body":"kind of the most popular way to use them, but there are a lot of other ways"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4102.32,"endTime":4104.77,"body":"to use lentils. And those you can also get dried or canned."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4104.77,"endTime":4108.33,"body":"And dried is going to be significantly cheaper. Yeah. Then another one to keep"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4108.33,"endTime":4112.21,"body":"in the pantry, protein bars, protein cookies, that kind of thing, protein snacks."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4112.21,"endTime":4115.96,"body":"Also some veggies. Now, I mean, you're not going to get all your protein from"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4115.96,"endTime":4119.62,"body":"vegetables. Yes. But there are vegetables that are slightly higher in protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4119.62,"endTime":4122.91,"body":"So as you're going throughout the day, kind of making your food and your meals,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4122.91,"endTime":4125.77,"body":"and you pick maybe the slightly higher protein vegetables, that stuff adds up."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4126.12,"endTime":4129.11,"body":"This is for, like, if you have a protein goal, you're having trouble getting"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4129.11,"endTime":4133.16,"body":"your protein, maybe this will move the dial a bit, like swapping out some veggies"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4133.16,"endTime":4134.28,"body":"that are higher protein. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4134.58,"endTime":4139.29,"body":"So these are, like, broccoli, mushrooms, spinach, kale, bok choy,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4139.46,"endTime":4143.27,"body":"cauliflower, green peas, and artichokes are kind of, like..."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4144.11,"endTime":4147.1,"body":"The high performers. And that's on a protein percentage. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4147.1,"endTime":4149.17,"body":"Not on like a gram per gram."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4149.17,"endTime":4152.28,"body":"Protein per calorie. Yeah. And then some miscellaneous stuff that doesn't really"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4152.28,"endTime":4155.09,"body":"fit into other categories, which is what miscellaneous means."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4157.76,"endTime":4159.13,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4159.36,"endTime":4162.35,"body":"Vegan ground beef and burgers we've talked about a little bit already."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4162.35,"endTime":4163.93,"body":"Might want to keep those around for protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4164.67,"endTime":4168.25,"body":"Just egg. We talked about the egg specifically and also now the just meat,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4169.73,"endTime":4171.16,"body":"chicken alternatives and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4172.07,"endTime":4174.88,"body":"Seitan we talked about. a really good vegan protein staple."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4175.85,"endTime":4179.33,"body":"Vegan chicken nuggets. So, yes, like a fried food."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4179.6,"endTime":4183.11,"body":"But also, a lot of the vegan chicken nugget brands are like 40% protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4183.11,"endTime":4185.93,"body":"So, it's pretty close to what you would look for in a protein bar. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4186.3,"endTime":4189.47,"body":"You got to check each brand because they all vary quite a bit."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4189.47,"endTime":4191.53,"body":"But there are a lot of them that are pretty decent protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4191.53,"endTime":4194.11,"body":"Yeah. And then the low-carb keto tortillas we were talking about earlier."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4194.13,"endTime":4197.16,"body":"Yeah, love those. Those are because of the nature of the fiber in them."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4197.16,"endTime":4198.62,"body":"They're actually really high in protein a lot."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4198.62,"endTime":4203.16,"body":"They also make, like, high-protein bagels and high-protein breads."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4203.16,"endTime":4206.49,"body":"Yeah. But I would just, those are really expensive, so you just make your own."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4206.68,"endTime":4208.78,"body":"Yeah, and the tortillas, so you kind of get the double whammy,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4208.78,"endTime":4210.96,"body":"high-protein and high-fiber. That's true. Good choice."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4212.05,"endTime":4215.62,"body":"And then the Tofurky Deli slices we mentioned before, and vegan Greek yogurt"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4215.62,"endTime":4219.89,"body":"is a big one. Greek yogurt is big in, like, fitness and in baking and stuff"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4219.89,"endTime":4223.33,"body":"like that. Try to get some extra protein in. So there are vegan versions of that as well."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4223.78,"endTime":4226.5,"body":"Yeah, and I think that one's, like, a little over 50% protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4226.65,"endTime":4226.95,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4227.56,"endTime":4231.75,"body":"I don't really like the flavor on its own, but that's just my opinion. I am picky."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4232.4,"endTime":4235.4,"body":"Yeah, and if you want to see more vegan protein options, we'll have a link in"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4235.4,"endTime":4238.91,"body":"the show notes. So you have a protein database on your website that's basically"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4238.91,"endTime":4242.33,"body":"a big table you can sort and filter and a bunch of different products that show"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4242.33,"endTime":4245.51,"body":"like how much protein they have per calorie, how much protein they have per dollar."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4245.78,"endTime":4248.95,"body":"So you can see kind of the most cost effective, the highest density protein,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4248.95,"endTime":4252.19,"body":"a lot of stuff like that all in one spot. It's like over 200 different things on this table. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4252.92,"endTime":4259.36,"body":"Quite large. I like spreadsheets. And then I guess we'll move on to like additional resources."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4259.7,"endTime":4262.79,"body":"We had a big podcast last week on different documentaries."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4263.18,"endTime":4266.49,"body":"So we're not going to really dig into these here. But these are kind of the"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4266.49,"endTime":4271.42,"body":"ones that we watched and would recommend. Cowspiracy is good for like an environmental perspective."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4271.85,"endTime":4275.66,"body":"And it also does a little bit on the factory farming and animal stuff."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4276.73,"endTime":4281.85,"body":"Forks Over Knives, mostly a health based documentary. punk rock vegan movie"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4281.85,"endTime":4286.25,"body":"was really cool if you are into the punk or rock scene or you just want to hear"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4286.25,"endTime":4289.18,"body":"about how it influenced veganism and animal advocacy."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4290.16,"endTime":4293.29,"body":"The next one is Game Changers, which kind of follows around,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4293.29,"endTime":4296.9,"body":"like, world-renowned athletes. So, it's more of a health-focused documentary."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4297.04,"endTime":4302.31,"body":"What the Health? This was about the kind of the food system in the United States."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4302.7,"endTime":4304.09,"body":"So, another health-focused one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4304.69,"endTime":4310.22,"body":"Seaspiracy was about industrial fishing and kind of its impact on the environment and veganism."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4310.69,"endTime":4316.45,"body":"And then The Invisible Vegan, which was a look into kind of veganism and black culture."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4316.93,"endTime":4319.87,"body":"Yeah, kind of hit all the bases. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4320.51,"endTime":4324.13,"body":"I could never go vegan, also hit all the bases, kind of went through any myths"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4324.13,"endTime":4326.96,"body":"or excuses you might have for not going vegan one by one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4326.96,"endTime":4330.97,"body":"And Food Inc., another one kind of about the food industry and how it,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4331.61,"endTime":4333.21,"body":"you know, it'd be better off if we went vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4334.78,"endTime":4340.06,"body":"Eating animals was pretty good. This one kind of dispelled the myth of like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4340.34,"endTime":4342.57,"body":"the meat you get in the grocery stores is from humane farms."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4342.92,"endTime":4348.77,"body":"Yeah. And then Plant Pure Nation was one that kind of touched on the government"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4348.77,"endTime":4352.45,"body":"aspect and followed like a small town group of people trying out vegan diet,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4352.45,"endTime":4353.86,"body":"watching their blood work, things like that."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4354.48,"endTime":4358.83,"body":"Next up was Vegucated, which followed around three meat and cheese loving New"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4358.83,"endTime":4362.95,"body":"Yorkers who agreed to adopt a vegan diet for six weeks. So that was pretty fun to watch."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4362.95,"endTime":4367.51,"body":"And then Earthlings and Dominion are both really like graphic undercover looks"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4367.51,"endTime":4369.72,"body":"at the actual farms themselves. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4370.1,"endTime":4372.67,"body":"And we actually didn't watch those, so we don't want to lie."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4373.53,"endTime":4376.82,"body":"But these are more for if the other ones didn't turn you vegan These probably will"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4377.83,"endTime":4382.86,"body":"Also, a couple of books we really like. One is a book that was also one of the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4382.86,"endTime":4384.42,"body":"movies we just mentioned, but eating animals."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4384.74,"endTime":4389.6,"body":"Yeah, this is from Jonathan Safran. Basically, it's part memoir,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4389.6,"endTime":4393.2,"body":"part investigative reporting, but it examines the morals around veganism,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4393.2,"endTime":4395.29,"body":"farming, and then the food we eat every day."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4395.65,"endTime":4397.86,"body":"This is actually the book I read that made me go vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4397.86,"endTime":4402.85,"body":"Another one I really like is How Not to Die by Dr. Greger and Gene Stone."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4403.27,"endTime":4408.19,"body":"This talks about the most common causes of death from disease and how a plant-based"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4408.19,"endTime":4410.76,"body":"diet can basically help with every one of those in various ways."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4411.11,"endTime":4412.48,"body":"Yeah, this one was really interesting."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4413.55,"endTime":4417.25,"body":"The third one we'll recommend is The Impactful Vegan by Robert Cheeke."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4418.13,"endTime":4422.74,"body":"This one's more for like if you're already vegan and you're looking to do more"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4422.74,"endTime":4424.92,"body":"advocacy slash activism work."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4425.26,"endTime":4429.36,"body":"He discusses how vegans can maximize their impact by using our time,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4429.36,"endTime":4431.27,"body":"money and energy so that it goes further."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4431.65,"endTime":4435.23,"body":"And I thought this one was really insightful on like if you're already vegan,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4435.23,"endTime":4437.23,"body":"like what can you be doing to move the dial?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4437.23,"endTime":4441.82,"body":"Yeah, I really appreciated that book. um then we have some websites that might"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4441.82,"endTime":4443.31,"body":"be cool to look at to try to you know"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4443.65,"endTime":4447.05,"body":"especially i find that if i'm trying something new it helps me to go and find"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4447.05,"endTime":4450.07,"body":"some like sites to talk about it kind of keep them on my bookmarks and look"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4450.07,"endTime":4452.93,"body":"at them once in a while so a couple that are really cool for veganism"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4453.31,"endTime":4455.23,"body":"one i really like is great vegan athletes"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4455.62,"endTime":4459.38,"body":"so this is basically a site that just keeps you know profiles of a whole bunch"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4459.38,"endTime":4463.17,"body":"of elite vegan athletes and various sports so you can go see oh who are all"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4463.17,"endTime":4465.93,"body":"the rugby players that are vegan who are the olympians that are vegan so you"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4465.93,"endTime":4468.31,"body":"can just see you know what people can do and then."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4468.31,"endTime":4473.69,"body":"Veg news and veganuary i would say are both really good vegan resources uh"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4474.44,"endTime":4477.55,"body":"veg news focuses more on kind of news but they also have a lot of recipes and"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4477.55,"endTime":4481.44,"body":"then obviously we had stew from veganuary on and um their website is great it"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4481.44,"endTime":4483.92,"body":"has a ton of resources and recipes yeah"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4484.12,"endTime":4489.38,"body":"They do um next is Veggl uh it's a good reference for how to order vegan at"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4489.38,"endTime":4493.46,"body":"various chain restaurants so a lot of times you really uh does arby's have vegan"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4493.46,"endTime":4495.22,"body":"food or whatever you find the Veggl article."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4495.5,"endTime":4498.73,"body":"Not to be confused with Veggly, which is apparently like a vegan dating app,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4498.73,"endTime":4500.46,"body":"which you could use too, I guess. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4501.81,"endTime":4504.6,"body":"If you're looking for a vegan partner, you have that as an option."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4505.63,"endTime":4511.57,"body":"Happy Cow is like, we've already talked about it, but really excellent for finding vegan options near you."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4512.49,"endTime":4516.66,"body":"Also, if you use Reddit or if you Google for anything vegan,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4516.66,"endTime":4517.76,"body":"you'll probably end up on Reddit."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4517.76,"endTime":4522.2,"body":"Yeah, but I personally think if you're going vegan, Reddit, you should get Reddit."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4522.2,"endTime":4525.58,"body":"Oh, there's so much good information on there. Yeah. So a couple of the subreddits,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4525.58,"endTime":4529.06,"body":"which are basically communities on Reddit for vegans, are, well,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4529.06,"endTime":4529.9,"body":"there's one called Vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4530.32,"endTime":4533.21,"body":"Yeah. So that's the main kind of hub for all things vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4533.59,"endTime":4537.94,"body":"A lot of news. You can also come here with questions as long as they're in good faith."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4539.54,"endTime":4541.64,"body":"Vegan fitness is probably the one we're on the most."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4541.64,"endTime":4544.76,"body":"Yeah, that one's really nice for anybody interested in fitness who is a vegan."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4544.76,"endTime":4550.38,"body":"Yeah, it's like high protein, vegan recipes, fitness health discussions, progress pictures."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4550.76,"endTime":4555.04,"body":"But like if you have questions around like if you're starting a fitness journey"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4555.04,"endTime":4557.72,"body":"or you're having trouble hitting your protein, I think this one's a really,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4558.04,"endTime":4559.96,"body":"really good place to go ask questions. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4560.35,"endTime":4563.41,"body":"It's also the protein deficient vegan subreddit, which is kind of similar to"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4563.41,"endTime":4567.1,"body":"vegan fitness, but no selfies, mostly about recipes and asking questions."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4567.1,"endTime":4570.8,"body":"And anyone can post there. Yeah. People don't post very often other than me, but you can."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4571.3,"endTime":4577.28,"body":"and you should yeah um next up is vegan recipes and like uh as the name implies"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4577.28,"endTime":4578.72,"body":"lots of vegan recipes there these"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4578.72,"endTime":4585.33,"body":"Are all pretty well named yeah plant-based diet is more about the diet focus"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4585.33,"endTime":4588.84,"body":"and less about veganism so if you're just specifically interested in food you can go there."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4588.84,"endTime":4592.66,"body":"Eat cheap and vegan is one of my favorites this one's like good if you're on"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4592.66,"endTime":4596.17,"body":"a budget and you need recipes they've got a lot and it's a good place to ask"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4596.17,"endTime":4598.26,"body":"questions yeah and then i will say"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4600.04,"endTime":4603.97,"body":"like being a vegan can feel very lonely so finding a place where you can find"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4603.97,"endTime":4605.64,"body":"other vegans to talk with"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4606.21,"endTime":4610.03,"body":"or find like you know what i mean or like socialize with i think is really helpful"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4610.03,"endTime":4614.18,"body":"to make you feel like i don't know i i actually heard a lot of people stop being"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4614.18,"endTime":4618.1,"body":"vegan because they feel like so alone in it and they just want to feel like normal and back"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4618.64,"endTime":4623.69,"body":"like part of society again so i think um i don't know places like these reddit"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4623.69,"endTime":4626.32,"body":"communities are really helpful because it makes you feel like you're not like"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4626.32,"endTime":4630.12,"body":"the only vegan in the world out there there's a lot of people that can relate to you um"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4630.87,"endTime":4634.14,"body":"I don't know, even like if you're on social media and you want to like start"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4634.14,"endTime":4638.35,"body":"a vegan social media account, I think there's a lot of like really good vegan"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4638.35,"endTime":4642.89,"body":"communities on like Instagram. Like you can find people to talk to. You know what I mean?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4642.89,"endTime":4646.36,"body":"It's also really helpful because as you're going vegan, you probably have a"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4646.36,"endTime":4649.77,"body":"lot of questions and there's nobody in your real life that can probably answer."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4649.77,"endTime":4653.39,"body":"Right. So you can go read blogs and stuff like that, but it's helpful sometimes"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4653.39,"endTime":4654.64,"body":"just to have a discussion with a person."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4654.64,"endTime":4657.31,"body":"Start a social media account that's vegan and like make some friends."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4657.31,"endTime":4661.2,"body":"Or you can join our Deficient Vegans Discord where it's vegans."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4661.2,"endTime":4662.36,"body":"You can ask vegan questions."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4662.66,"endTime":4666.21,"body":"Find a place to find vegans. That's my, like, I would say big advice,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4666.21,"endTime":4667.39,"body":"though, so you don't feel alone."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4667.39,"endTime":4671.55,"body":"So in conclusion, some of the actionable takeaways you might have here after listening."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4672.39,"endTime":4675.52,"body":"Make sure you find alternatives for the food you love if you're trying to go"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4675.52,"endTime":4678.26,"body":"vegan. That's going to be really important to making sure that you can stick to it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4678.5,"endTime":4678.84,"body":"Yep."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4679.19,"endTime":4682.97,"body":"Also, learn to find restaurants with vegan options. The main way we do that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4682.97,"endTime":4687.44,"body":"is Happy Cow, and I consider that to be the best way. But if you join some of"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4687.44,"endTime":4690.63,"body":"these vegan communities, especially local communities, those can also highlight"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4690.63,"endTime":4691.98,"body":"some restaurants you might not know about."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4691.98,"endTime":4695.88,"body":"Yeah, and Reddit has a couple different, like, location-based vegan communities."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4695.88,"endTime":4697.94,"body":"I know we're on, like, Chicago Vegan a lot, so."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4698.15,"endTime":4702.51,"body":"Yeah. Also, make sure you plan ahead for any social situations."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4702.51,"endTime":4704.65,"body":"You want to make sure, like, you're going to a restaurant that's going to have"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4704.65,"endTime":4706.74,"body":"something you can eat. If you're going to a family gathering,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4706.74,"endTime":4707.96,"body":"they're going to have some options for you."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4708.02,"endTime":4711.01,"body":"Or, like, oh, work, lunch, and learn. Just make sure that you're having these"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4711.01,"endTime":4713.2,"body":"discussions with people so that they know you're vegan. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4714.18,"endTime":4718.03,"body":"I'd say improving your cooking skills is probably one of the biggest takeaways."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4718.03,"endTime":4718.4,"body":"Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4718.85,"endTime":4722.37,"body":"Learn how to cook at least a couple things that you enjoy and that's,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4722.37,"endTime":4726.43,"body":"like, fun for you or, like, at least pretty simple and easy for you to do."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4726.95,"endTime":4731.22,"body":"Yeah, definitely. Focus on your protein. Even if you're not necessarily,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4731.22,"endTime":4735.11,"body":"like, lifting and have a protein goal, you just be aware that you had a lot"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4735.11,"endTime":4737.92,"body":"of kind of hidden protein before that you weren't paying much attention to."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4738.19,"endTime":4740.66,"body":"And some of that's probably not going to be there naturally, no. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4741.0,"endTime":4744.5,"body":"I don't think it's a bad idea if you first go vegan to like track your food"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4744.5,"endTime":4746.66,"body":"for a couple weeks just to make sure you're hitting your protein."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4746.66,"endTime":4748.32,"body":"Yeah. And your micronutrients. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4749.85,"endTime":4754.49,"body":"And then be aware that a lot of things use animal-derived ingredients that you might not think do."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4754.83,"endTime":4757.34,"body":"Yeah. If you're going vegan, it's not just about food. Like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4757.65,"endTime":4760.01,"body":"make sure you're looking at your clothing and your makeup and your,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4760.01,"endTime":4761.91,"body":"like, home goods and stuff like that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4761.91,"endTime":4765.87,"body":"Yeah. One of the big surprises for me was toilet paper. Most toilet paper has"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4765.87,"endTime":4770.13,"body":"gelatin. So if you're vegan, you can't really ethically use gelatin."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4770.13,"endTime":4772.13,"body":"So you might have to make some decisions there."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4772.54,"endTime":4776.4,"body":"We use who gives a crap. It comes in a big box, which is really nice if another pandemic hits."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4776.4,"endTime":4782.22,"body":"So that's pretty much it for the how to go vegan one on one crash course."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4782.22,"endTime":4784.09,"body":"Sorry, it was long. We had a lot to say."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4784.83,"endTime":4789.59,"body":"OK, so let's do our bite size coaching for this week. If you don't know, I'm a personal trainer."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4789.96,"endTime":4793.05,"body":"I did a couple of ask me anything on Reddit and had a couple of interesting."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4793.53,"endTime":4796.71,"body":"I had a lot of interesting questions there. So I wanted to share one of those with you today."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4797.54,"endTime":4800.17,"body":"Um, I remember you get to ask the questions."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4800.17,"endTime":4805.15,"body":"I do. I do get to ask the questions. Okay. For some reason, this one got deleted by the moderator."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4805.31,"endTime":4805.76,"body":"In Reddit."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4806.32,"endTime":4810.39,"body":"On Reddit, yeah. Yeah. Um, but this, this was the question."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4810.59,"endTime":4817.34,"body":"How do you deal with protein farts when you're in a confined space with other"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4817.34,"endTime":4820.48,"body":"humans after eating 50 grams of protein?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4820.84,"endTime":4823.3,"body":"This seemed like a very specific question to me."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4823.51,"endTime":4826.39,"body":"Also, what do they mean by confined space? Because I only know that from,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4826.39,"endTime":4830.1,"body":"like, industry term of confined space, which I'm sure is not what they mean."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4830.1,"endTime":4832.85,"body":"I think they just meant, like, you're working in an office with somebody or"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4832.85,"endTime":4835.36,"body":"you're, like, hanging out in the house, like, on the couch with somebody."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4835.36,"endTime":4836.68,"body":"That is not a confined space."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4836.68,"endTime":4838.64,"body":"I guess not, technically. I don't really know what they mean."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4839.32,"endTime":4840.55,"body":"My guess would be they were in an office."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4840.55,"endTime":4842.6,"body":"The colloquial use of confined space. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4842.6,"endTime":4844.94,"body":"Got it. Yeah, not, like, whatever you're thinking."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4847.16,"endTime":4848.42,"body":"Okay, so how do you do it?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4848.42,"endTime":4852.42,"body":"Yeah, so, first of all, I'd recommend not downing 50 grams of protein in 30"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4852.42,"endTime":4854.9,"body":"seconds right before you're going to be in a confined space with somebody."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4855.24,"endTime":4858.98,"body":"Yeah. But if you do, you have to follow the golden rule in society of whoever"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4858.98,"endTime":4861.46,"body":"smelt it, dealt it, and you don't smell anything."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4861.69,"endTime":4864.19,"body":"Oh, you just act stupid about it. Right."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4864.19,"endTime":4864.62,"body":"Obviously."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4864.62,"endTime":4864.88,"body":"Okay."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4866.88,"endTime":4872.07,"body":"On a more serious note, the protein farts can often be from additives in the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4872.07,"endTime":4873.57,"body":"protein powders or the protein bars."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4873.98,"endTime":4877.65,"body":"So you might try different types. One of the big triggers is kind of like a"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4877.65,"endTime":4880.98,"body":"sugar alcohol. Sometimes you're maybe a little more sensitive to one or the"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4880.98,"endTime":4883.23,"body":"other sugar alcohols or artificial sweeteners or something."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4883.67,"endTime":4885.79,"body":"So you can kind of try a couple of different ones. Maybe try,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4885.79,"endTime":4887.85,"body":"if you can find one with natural sugar, it's actually kind of hard."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4888.31,"endTime":4890.26,"body":"But maybe that won't make you as gassy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4891.08,"endTime":4895.05,"body":"They're not like, this causes gas. But some people, they're a little less gassy."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4895.05,"endTime":4896.89,"body":"Yeah, you're a little sensitive to sugar alcohols."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4897.01,"endTime":4901.06,"body":"Also, just in general, vegan proteins are a lot less gas producing than like"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4901.06,"endTime":4904.65,"body":"whey or egg proteins. Yeah. Because they don't have as much of the sulfur amino acids."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4904.65,"endTime":4907.4,"body":"And they don't smell as bad. Right. In my opinion."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4907.4,"endTime":4909.09,"body":"Same thing, yeah. Yeah. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4910.07,"endTime":4914.51,"body":"Um, what about like just gassiness overall? Like a lot of people say they get"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4914.51,"endTime":4917.12,"body":"gassy when they start eating more vegan protein sources. Like,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4917.71,"endTime":4920.93,"body":"I don't know, soy and beans and stuff is normally what I hear."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4921.29,"endTime":4925.94,"body":"Yeah, a lot of it is you kind of changed your diet a lot immediately."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4925.94,"endTime":4929.47,"body":"Like people who are like, oh, Taco Bell makes me have diarrhea or whatever."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4929.47,"endTime":4932.23,"body":"It's because you never eat fiber. And then you go to Taco Bell and you just"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4932.23,"endTime":4934.15,"body":"had 20 grams of fiber in one meal."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4934.45,"endTime":4937.27,"body":"So I would say just in general, anytime you're going to change your diet,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4937.27,"endTime":4939.8,"body":"whether it's ramping up protein or you're starting to eat a lot more beans or"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4939.8,"endTime":4943.22,"body":"something like that, just kind of ramp it up slowly instead of a drastic change."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4943.22,"endTime":4945.43,"body":"That way your gut microbiome has time to adapt to it."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4945.43,"endTime":4950.74,"body":"That makes sense. Yeah. I've also heard, like, soaking your beans can help."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4950.74,"endTime":4952.03,"body":"Rinsing your beans can help."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4952.57,"endTime":4954.42,"body":"Soaking TVP, rinsing TVP."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4954.42,"endTime":4958.27,"body":"If they're dry beans, for sure you want to soak them. I think canned beans are already."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4958.39,"endTime":4960.25,"body":"Well, obviously you're going to soak your dry beans."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4960.25,"endTime":4961.62,"body":"Well, some people don't. They"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4961.62,"endTime":4964.85,"body":"eat them dry? Well, no, they just cook them without soaking them first."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4966.08,"endTime":4968.44,"body":"Like soak them. You have to like soak them to get them."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4968.59,"endTime":4969.48,"body":"Soak these beans."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4969.48,"endTime":4975.35,"body":"Yeah. So anyway. But yeah, canned beans are already pretty much,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4975.95,"endTime":4977.67,"body":"you can just eat them out of the can. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4978.34,"endTime":4981.35,"body":"I've had people say that they rinse them before they eat them out of the can"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4981.35,"endTime":4983.06,"body":"because they said that helps with their gassiness."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4983.06,"endTime":4986.0,"body":"All right. Well, there's a tip. I don't know that one, if that actually contributes"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4986.0,"endTime":4988.67,"body":"or not, but hey, try it out. Yeah. There's a lot of stuff to try."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4988.67,"endTime":4990.67,"body":"A lot of weird things can make people have gas."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":4991.1,"endTime":4993.66,"body":"Oh, yeah. I mean, it could just be like digestive issues too."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4993.98,"endTime":4997.02,"body":"As far as the protein powder goes, if you do want to try to eliminate some of"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":4997.02,"endTime":5002.18,"body":"the fillers and stuff, there's one brand of protein powder called Naked that"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5002.18,"endTime":5006.57,"body":"just does single ingredient protein powders. So they have a rice and a pea version that are vegan."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5007.04,"endTime":5011.29,"body":"So the ingredient is like literally just yellow peas or whatever. Yeah. You can try that."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5012.25,"endTime":5017.04,"body":"Also, peas on their own are something that might make you more gassy."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5017.04,"endTime":5020.56,"body":"So you might try the rice instead if you find pea protein makes you gassy or"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5020.56,"endTime":5022.61,"body":"find something that's like a pea rice blend."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5022.81,"endTime":5024.12,"body":"What about peanut powder?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5024.78,"endTime":5027.8,"body":"Peanut powder might work, yeah. You can try that out."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5028.82,"endTime":5031.43,"body":"Yeah, so I think you just kind of have to try things until you figure out,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5031.43,"endTime":5034.62,"body":"like, what it is that makes you specifically more gassy. But in general,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5034.62,"endTime":5040.08,"body":"it's like, don't have a ton of it at once and don't, like, drastically change your diet overnight."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5040.73,"endTime":5044.34,"body":"And then the other thing I would remember is that even if you're more gassy,"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5044.34,"endTime":5046.66,"body":"vegan farts don't smell as bad as omnivore farts."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5046.66,"endTime":5047.21,"body":"Yeah, there you go."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5047.21,"endTime":5048.22,"body":"And that's just a fact."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5048.22,"endTime":5050.65,"body":"That's what you use for the argument for whoever's complaining about your farts."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5051.03,"endTime":5053.74,"body":"Yeah. But they could smell much worse."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5053.74,"endTime":5055.11,"body":"They could smell like yours."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5056.88,"endTime":5059.91,"body":"Anyway, yeah. I mean, a couple. It's a little bit of trial and error because"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5059.91,"endTime":5063.05,"body":"there's nothing that like definitely causes farts. But yeah,"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5063.05,"endTime":5064.55,"body":"you have to kind of figure it out for your own gut."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5064.55,"endTime":5067.97,"body":"Yeah. And don't hold in your farts, though, because apparently if you hold in"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5067.97,"endTime":5069.37,"body":"farts, that can give you bad breath."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5069.86,"endTime":5073.53,"body":"If you're constantly holding in your farts. No, you're looking at me weird. This is a real thing."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5075.55,"endTime":5078.38,"body":"No, I'm serious. Okay. This is real."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5078.38,"endTime":5081.48,"body":"If I can find a link to how real that is, we'll put it in the show notes."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5081.48,"endTime":5084.39,"body":"So it will be in the show notes because it's real."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5085.82,"endTime":5089.32,"body":"All right. Yeah. So that's pretty much it for the coaching. Now we have some"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5089.32,"endTime":5093.61,"body":"updates for the Deficient Vegans community on Discord, specifically around the book club."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5094.27,"endTime":5097.9,"body":"Okay. So pretty exciting. Can I announce it?"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5098.2,"endTime":5098.66,"body":"Of course."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5098.98,"endTime":5104.25,"body":"Yeah. So we did a poll and the results are in. The next book for the book club"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5104.25,"endTime":5105.32,"body":"is, can I get the drum roll thing?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5106.06,"endTime":5111.25,"body":"The next book for the book club is The Impactful Vegan. Yay."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5111.25,"endTime":5113.68,"body":"Woo. The crowd goes mild."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5115.98,"endTime":5116.98,"body":"That's a good book. Yeah. I really"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5116.98,"endTime":5120.07,"body":"like that one. We have read that one before, but I'm really excited."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5120.07,"endTime":5121.1,"body":"Gonna read it again."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5121.44,"endTime":5123.99,"body":"I'm actually excited to read it again because I'm sure I need some refreshers"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5123.99,"endTime":5125.21,"body":"on some of the stuff in there. Yeah."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5125.75,"endTime":5128.18,"body":"And then there was a close second and."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5128.18,"endTime":5129.53,"body":"A very different type of book."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5129.53,"endTime":5133.0,"body":"A very different type of book, like a horror book."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5134.19,"endTime":5137.42,"body":"And we're pretty excited about that one, too. And there was enough interest"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5137.42,"endTime":5141.39,"body":"that we're going to be doing a second book club back to back."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5141.52,"endTime":5143.33,"body":"Yeah. Like a spooky book club."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5143.33,"endTime":5148.66,"body":"Like a spooky book club for Halloween. So The Impactful Vegan will be in early"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5148.66,"endTime":5152.76,"body":"September and we'll give you more dates as that approaches probably next week. And then."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5154.07,"endTime":5155.33,"body":"Tender is the flesh."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5155.33,"endTime":5161.24,"body":"Tender is the flesh. That will be in October going through Halloween."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5161.39,"endTime":5163.2,"body":"Do we know if this book is PG-13?"},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5163.2,"endTime":5166.11,"body":"I don't think so. I don't think it is."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5166.11,"endTime":5167.12,"body":"I don't think I've ever read a book"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5167.12,"endTime":5170.32,"body":"that had the word tender flesh in the title. So we'll see how it goes."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5170.66,"endTime":5173.84,"body":"I haven't either. Sounds pretty good."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5175.96,"endTime":5179.7,"body":"It sounds like my vibe. So I'm really excited about this one."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5180.01,"endTime":5182.06,"body":"We didn't vote, but I probably would have voted on that one."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5182.82,"endTime":5185.88,"body":"I probably would have voted on The Impactful Vegan, but I'm happy to participate"},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5185.88,"endTime":5186.52,"body":"with the other book, too."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5187.28,"endTime":5189.58,"body":"He's going to have to read it regardless if he wants to or not."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5190.98,"endTime":5197.44,"body":"But we are doing a raffle for five impactful vegan books next week on our Instagram accounts."},{"speaker":"Protein Deficient Vegan","startTime":5197.74,"endTime":5199.73,"body":"So keep an eye out for that if you want to enter."},{"speaker":"Muscle Deficient Vegan","startTime":5201.66,"endTime":5205.01,"body":"All right. 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