From A Bartender To A DJ And How It All Began - Ep #1

In this introduction episode of our podcast you are welcomed into the world of DJ ILIA and DJ Nino. Delve into the DJing journey with Ilia and Nino and discover how it all began. An episode full of stories of friendship and mentorship while describing what to expect in future episodes.

This episode is a backstage pass into the makings of a DJ pro, with discussions about opportunity and how to seize the moment, experiences leading to business ventures and much more.

Nino shares his wisdom on why slipping a newbie into the DJ booth for a hands-on learning experience beats any classroom. Meanwhile, I dish on the hard decisions, like ditching a great bartending side-gig in favor of the DJ booth, and the hustle to spin my hobby into a full-time career.

We're peeling back the velvet rope to reveal the highs, lows, and drop-the-bass blows of climbing the DJ ladder. So, grab your headphones and prepare for a session where the Rookie meets Pro and how this partnership evolved into numerous incredible opportunities.

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Transcript

Ilia: 0:18

Hello and welcome to the Clever DJ podcast with Ilya and Nino.

Nino: 0:25

Welcome guys. This is our first ever episode of our Clever DJ podcast. Hope you guys are gonna enjoy our journey and we're gonna introduce ourselves right now.

Ilia: 0:38

Yes. So I think it's fair to start with what this podcast is all about. Just for you who don't know us, which is pretty much everyone, just so you see if you actually want to stick around, which I'm sure you will, if you're a DJ, an aspiring DJ, even a pro, and that's what it's all about. So I'm a beginner DJ.

Nino: 0:59

I started DJing about, I would say, a year and a half ago, and Nino I've been a professional for a while now, I'd rather not say in a couple of decades. But, yeah, I've been a professional now for a while, and that's the goal of this podcast is to show the point of view of a beginner and a professional.

Ilia: 1:21

Right, yes, we've listened to quite a few podcasts. We've seen the most popular ones online and nothing really touches on DJing. From this point of view, now we appreciate everything that we see online. I mean, there's so many good ones that I'm sure everyone here knows.

Nino: 1:49

But this concept is special, right? We have a unique chemistry between each other. We're friends now.

Ilia: 1:56

Yes, right, and that's what made it so much better, because it just gave it such a nice spin. So let's start. How did we meet? Let's start from that, because that's really where everything started, right?

Nino: 2:09

You tell me. You say the story all the time. It's really special for you because you're so sentimental about it.

Ilia: 2:17

I am Because, the way I see it, my whole life I want to be a musician and I play the guitar, I play the piano, I sing. None of those things are on an ultimate professional level, but I do well for myself and, like many of you, I have a 9 to 5 job. Lucky for me, I work from home. I appreciate my job. It really allows me to achieve so many things that I want to do after work. But still I have a dream, and my dream is to be a musician for a living, and not one who is going to then say, man, I ruined my hobby. Now it's not fun anymore Something that I would really appreciate still, even though I'm doing it every day for work.

Ilia: 3:08

And I discovered that DJing is one of those things.

Ilia: 3:12

So when I met Nino, I did whatever I could to make this happen, because I noticed it, I recognized it and there's this quote online. It goes something like that If you want to learn something specific and you know, if you want to learn something specific usually a trade or something like DJing, or find someone who's professional at it and offer them your time, offer them three months, four months, six months of your time and say I'm going to give you everything. I'm going to give you all of me for that timeline and at the end, if you feel like you could hire me, then We'll shake it and we'll start some sort of a deal. If not, we'll shake our hands and we'll go our separate ways. Again, I'm trying to remember the actual quote, but it's pretty much a very, very known concept and I've learned a lot of different things doing just that finding someone who's good at something, volunteering myself for an amount of weeks or months and then either sticking with them or thanking them for their time and the experience, and then starting my own thing.

Nino: 4:39

Yeah, so basically how we met is I was a DJing at a venue that he was bartending at. This guy has like 10 jobs, right, this guy does a regular nine to five job. He'd put bartends, and then what else did you do?

Ilia: 4:56

I was a waiter, I was a bartender, I was building websites in between Newspapers. That's one thing I actually never did.

Nino: 5:07

But yeah, basically he was bartending at the venue that I was DJing at. It was a really special venue because, well, the client actually was special because they wanted more rock and it was really out of my element. I've never really focused and done a rock wedding. So, yeah, it was really different. And this guy, while I was setting up, he approached me and what did you say, man?

Ilia: 5:36

So the first thing I said, I mean I'm a bartender, hey, would you like a drink Like I can make you? And I started just listing all the kinds of alcoholic beverages, thinking this guy's a DJ, probably wants to party, right?

Nino: 5:49

But then I don't drink really, yeah, rarely, especially on the job. Yeah, yeah, I try to stay professional.

Ilia: 5:55

Yes, and down the road we'll speak about that as well. And really you shouldn't be drinking when you're DJing, or even eating more than just a couple of bites here and there. You're there to DJ, you're not there to be really doing anything else and you gotta stay in your element. But I said, okay, how about a couple virgin drinks, so like some cocktail, something interesting I can make for you? And I was losing him. I said, how about Coke? Do you drink Coke?

Nino: 6:27

And I said yeah, just to get rid of this guy, Because, again, I was doing a rock wedding and I was still preparing my playlist and what to play, totally out of my element. He was bothering me while I was setting up I was like, yeah, man, yeah, yeah, give me a Coke.

Ilia: 6:44

So yeah, you do like Coke so.

Nino: 6:47

I do.

Ilia: 6:51

I remember feeling that I am bothering him because the thing is, whenever you see a contractor at a wedding, they're already busy. They show up at that time because they either need that time to prepare or they have a reason why they're there early but they're already busy, and so I knew he's gonna be busy, but I was trying to find the best time to approach him. This guy was on a mission to talk to I was on a mission.

Nino: 7:17

I'm not your first which hurts me.

Ilia: 7:20

You're not my first I approached a couple other DJs. There were very select few, maybe a handful that I approached. I've had a couple mentors in the past, you know, with one or two of them, like, I remained fairly close friends, even worked a couple gigs with them since then. But we're kind of mixing up the timeline here so it never really went somewhere right. I went to a couple gigs with this one guy. It was fun, I got a taste of it and then I went, just went back to work and for a few years and then I met this guy while I was bartending. Yeah.

Nino: 7:57

Now, that was-.

Ilia: 7:58

He brought me like 10 coques that day I brought him several more than just several drinks.

Nino: 8:04

I brought him like yeah, like eight, nine, 10 coques I've never had so many coques in my life.

Ilia: 8:09

I was trying to find any reason to speak to him. So on the first or second approach, I told him hey, so because I need to get this going right. Hey, I would love to learn how to DJ and I've been trying and I just don't really get it. I need somebody to actually show me the craft, teach me the ropes, and you know, if you could do that, I can help you out, because I'm a hobbyist producer, music producer, and that caught your attention.

Nino: 8:42

It caught my attention. Well, I've always been wanting to dabble into production and stuff, but I'm busy with DJing, so but I thought to myself oh, maybe this guy can actually help me out because a lot of DJs approach me just to learn, want to learn from right. So I'm like, uh, maybe, okay, maybe you can do something. So I actually took your number down. You gave me a number.

Ilia: 9:05

Yeah, and one way or another. Actually, I have the texts here I he thinks of oh I'm so sentimental, this guy, I just didn't delete them, this guy remembers like down to the time, the date, the second.

Nino: 9:18

I'm going to find it. This guy is hilarious man.

Ilia: 9:22

He's still. You're flattering yourself a bit too much. But Come on right, no, I'm not. No, I am not. You're for real.

Nino: 9:28

This guy records everything he takes pictures.

Ilia: 9:32

I'm always with my camera somewhere. I like documenting things. I always want to be a content creator. I always wanted to be like a YouTuber or something right, because I love recording things, I love commenting on things, and I never really found my aim, my purpose, with that skill and somehow everything just fell into the right place with this guy. So that was August 29th 2021, just so you get the timeline right. That was that wedding and I killed that wedding right. You did. It was a Sunday wedding it was a Sunday wedding.

Nino: 10:06

Think about that. They didn't wanna go home.

Ilia: 10:08

You wouldn't be able to tell it's a Sunday wedding because it was what 2 am.

Nino: 10:12

Yeah.

Ilia: 10:13

The Sunday weddings they're end before 1 am. Usually pretty much like 20% of people are left, if that right the party animals and then, yeah, so the staff was actually. I remember them saying they were wondering when is it gonna end, cause they all wanted to go home, cause the following day it's a Sunday man.

Nino: 10:32

Everybody wants to go home.

Ilia: 10:34

Yeah, but I was loving it. So here I am, like 7 21 pm. I messaged you my name and I know, I know that that was a busy time Cause. Now, like understanding the job, I know what I was doing when I was interrupting you, but that was it.

Ilia: 10:52

So just to make this really short, because, again, you don't know us very well yet and while this is interesting to us, it may not be interesting to you. So we'll try to keep it short and down the road. If anyone wants to know any more details, which we'll be happy to tell, we'll go over again.

Nino: 11:06

We'll bring this up again in the future in other episodes, for sure.

Ilia: 11:10

Most importantly, eight months later, on April.

Nino: 11:13

Eight months later. So this is a situation. It just got busier. Like I booked up I think it was 200, 250 weddings that year for 2022. And I was like, oh my God, I don't know what I'm gonna do. I need another DJ. I need help, Cause I already had DJs right, but a lot of them had their own gigs and a lot of them were already booked. I already booked them already, so I still had some slots open. So I was like thinking to myself what?

Ilia: 11:44

am I gonna do.

Nino: 11:45

And then I don't know why I thought of this guy. This guy really made an impression on me.

Ilia: 11:51

Lucky for you.

Nino: 11:51

All the coax got to my head for sure. So I actually texted him one day. And then I what did I say? He has it, I had everything, he kept everything.

Ilia: 12:01

Well, just so you know, I don't periodically go over my text and delete them, so the phone is still the same phone, so it's still here, but I would keep it. Cause this was this was an important moment to me. That was the moment where I kind of tore myself away from the nine to five, not in a way that I quit or anything like that, but I was now starting my journey on becoming an entrepreneur in an industry which I really enjoy. I really appreciate my job. Not gonna talk about what I do exactly, I work from home, I have a great job, I have great team and everything. And it's just, at the end of the day, it's something that a lot of people don't actually you know in their childhood, thinking oh, that's what I'll do for a living, that's my dream. So you know, I'm a musician and I wanted to do something in music. So as soon as I recognized this opportunity, this guy dropped everything at that moment he texts me hey bro, how are you?

Ilia: 13:04

I don't know if you remember me, but I remembered him. But I met you last year when I DJed a wedding at and I'll just say the name of the venue Waterstone.

Nino: 13:14

Oh, by the way, we're GTA DJ, so this is a GTA podcast from Toronto Canada. That was it, toronto the six.

Ilia: 13:22

We welcome everyone. But if you are from Toronto, canada, you'll pick up a lot of the locations we're talking about and stuff. We're all over the place. We go up, north and south, east and west, we're everywhere. But yeah, so he says my name is Nino DJ9. Are you still interested in DJing and learning? And, like we said, I dropped everything at that moment.

Ilia: 13:47

I took a break from work because I still had a pending break. I was like you know, I'll take it later. I get this text. I'm like yes, break. And I say, hey, brother, of course I remember. Yes, yeah, I'm very interested. And you're asking what I'm doing these days, working. And then I just explained what my schedule was, which was insane. I don't remember how many hours in one week, but I was working no order of life, some weeks close to 110 hours, sometimes more. I would sleep two to three hours a night sometimes, and that was because I was making great money as a bartender or a waiter. I then became a head bartender, so I couldn't be a waiter anymore almost ever, because they liked me as a bartender. And then I had my full-time job. I was blessed with lots of overtime hours and I had other small ventures. I was building Websites, I was just doing whatever I could to make more money.

Nino: 14:47

10 jobs this guy got 10 jobs.

Ilia: 14:51

And I was telling him my schedule and he's like, hmm, yeah, you're busy, huh, so we're not getting into too much detail with the text here he offered me to. I pretty much noticed.

Nino: 15:03

Wait, wait, wait, wait. I actually asked you to come over right, let's see.

Ilia: 15:07

if you really wanna, let's see, let's see. Oh, what equipment do you own, and that's something that we went over, actually, that's true.

Nino: 15:19

Oh, actually, at that wedding that I did, I was using the SB3, the DDJ, the Pioneer DDJ SB3. And I asked him do you own any DJ equipment? And he said he owns like the SB2, which was the one lower than mine. And I was like, oh okay, since he had DJ equipment, I was like thinking, okay, maybe this guy can actually DJ. So what did I do? I actually offered you a gig.

Ilia: 15:46

Yes, I'm been known to. You know I don't know how, cause I made sure that I don't fake it till I make it. I told him right away I'm not. I need you to teach me the ropes, but Well, certain things.

Nino: 16:00

Well certain things, like because you have the DDJ SB2, I figured, okay, this guy must know something because he already owns the equipment, he just needs direction. Yeah yeah, so I figured, okay, maybe he knows how to play stuff, and then the gig that I was sending him to it was pretty simple, right, and it was literally just to play some music and I would do it so well today yeah well, now, right, yeah, and yeah, he offered me that one.

Ilia: 16:27

I think we were trying to think about it earlier. I think there was maybe one more thing where he wanted me to just like replace him for a couple hours between gigs, cause he had a ton of gigs that year because all the COVID postponed weddings, just everything at once, and all the new ones as well.

Nino: 16:47

So it all just compounded and stuff so many events?

Ilia: 16:50

Yes, so what happened was I think I just checked the messages we started a phone call and it was a long phone call and yeah, so I offered him a gig and then I don't know what I was thinking, thinking that he could totally DJ and I was really careful telling him like I didn't want him to.

Ilia: 17:11

You don't say no to something like this. You don't you always say yes at an interview at most of them at least but I knew it. If I take this gig, it's probably the last one I'll get from this guy. Plus, I actually genuinely care about the client because I'm thinking to myself about all the great DJs I had in my events and luckily I think all of them to this day were great DJs and my personal events, my family and everyone. And you don't want people to be disappointed with their night because you messed it up. Right, it's important. It's a wedding or a birthday, doesn't matter, it's an important event. So I cared about his business and about my image and about the client and he understood that I can't really do it, but he decided to take me to a gig with him to see who am I working with.

Nino: 18:01

Yeah, so I took him to a gig I think it was like a christening or whatever and then he didn't really get on the decks or anything, but he helped me set up and it was really good with like the taking photos and videos and stuff. I was like, okay good, Okay, this guy's showing value, right.

Ilia: 18:23

And that was my mission. I was saying to myself I'm gonna make sure that he's gonna wanna take me to every gig going forward, because this is insane, like in terms of value. If any of you are beginner DJs, imagine that somebody's gonna take you under, teach you everything all for free, and show you how to use pro equipment, and then also he also has beginner equipment so literally a plethora of things that you would never have access to until down the road if you made it as a DJ or they started making as a DJ and then being in live events dealing with clients, I got a truly hands-on experience, and an amazing one also, so it meant a lot to me, so I set up everything for him.

Nino: 19:17

He did everything he could. Right, he couldn't really DJ yet and I wouldn't let him on a dex, not yet, because I know he couldn't really do anything. I think I proved that. Yeah, but he literally would set the stuff, like my equipment up, like how I would want it set up and it was really hard because I'm particular with how I set things up and he would pay attention to how I would do it and, yeah, he would do it. I'm like, well, okay, this guy is pretty good, and then he would take like lit videos of me. I posted to.

Nino: 19:47

Instagram and people would be like yo who's your videographer man? That's pretty lit. And then I asked him yo are you sure you don't wanna be like a videographer instead of a DJ?

Ilia: 19:55

And that started worrying me because he started focusing on how good I do. You're good man, like I was also good at PR, sales and stuff like that. You know like I was great with the customers, so with the clients right and everything but the actual craft of DJing and he's like man I could really use you. And I said you know what I'll do all that stuff for you, but don't forget that I'm with you because I wanna learn. That's already when we start becoming closer friends, so we're kind of like jumping ahead.

Nino: 20:23

So, but in the long run I brought him to like 30 gigs, at least 30 or 40 gigs.

Ilia: 20:28

It felt like a hundred. It felt like a hundred, like honestly, I took him to gigs.

Nino: 20:32

He would help me set up, he would take videos and all the time and then he became close. Our humor would kind of like we'd get along right. We just clicked and we had this kind of like banter.

Ilia: 20:47

Yeah, man, before that, before that, I was super careful not to be myself for the first two or three gigs, cause I'm a joke, like I'm a joker, like I make jokes, I make funny things happen and that's the thing You're my jester, you make me laugh during gigs, and then he would bring me food when I want.

Nino: 21:09

He would bring me drinks. I'm like, okay, this is not bad, this is not a bad setup.

Ilia: 21:14

I'm a free personal assistant and I'm thinking this is not bad. This guy's teaching me for free, wow, wow.

Nino: 21:19

So it kind of worked out in the end, and then it took him a little longer to learn how to DJ.

Ilia: 21:24

But yeah, because I and that's another thing we were gonna discuss later the commitment level, what's required to become a DJ, and a lot of different things that have that fall into the same kind of category of industries. You know, like skills. This is not something you can just pick up just on the spot by doing it five minutes here and hour there, being inconsistent, unless you're just a natural.

Ilia: 21:53

A natural yeah, and between my full-time job and my overtime and my bartending and everything, it was hard and at some point I literally realized that unless I sabotage myself with my bartending, I'm not leaving it. So I started opening my mouth. I was they were doing a lot of shady things there and that could also risk me and my license and also cause unfortunate situations for the client and I just got really up close with management and told them what I thought.

Nino: 22:27

So those politics in his workplace.

Ilia: 22:30

It happens everywhere, but he was really getting into it, yeah, and I made it, so I won't work there anymore, because I knew that with the tens of thousands of dollars I was making there easily loving it too I don't. You only have 100% of your time. So no matter what it is and how well you can multitask, you have 100%, and that was taking a big chunk of my time. So I told myself, if I don't say goodbye to all this money and all this time that's being occupied and put that time into DJing, this is not gonna happen. This guy's gonna drop me.

Nino: 23:06

Yeah, yeah, but, yeah. But it worked out. He showed value in other ways and he finally got the hang of it. How long did it take you?

Ilia: 23:19

So I'm happy you said that, because I started noticing how he started taking me to gigs less and less and I'm like, oh shoot, this guy's gonna replace me. And I was actually, and this guy's this guy knew how I was feeling. I already knew. I asked him later. He's like yeah, I knew you were probably nervous, right, but I had to do it bro.

Nino: 23:38

Yeah, I had to do it.

Ilia: 23:40

Partly it was because they actually had someone else to train and partly it was because I wasn't getting it. Yes, yes, and I thought to myself OK, this train is about to leave. I got to do something significant. I decided to take a course, and that was for two main reasons. First of all, I did not feel like I was progressing properly at the correct speed and second, I did not want this guy to drop me, because I wanted to make sure that I make a good impression and that I look like somebody who actually wants to do this and is not just taking this opportunity for granted yeah, exactly yeah, and to not get into too many fine details. The course was great because I made it great.

Ilia: 24:32

If you didn't put a lot of work into the course on your own for example, practice at home, build connections, ask the right questions then you wouldn't get as much from it. But I did whatever I could, the way I was with Nino, I was with the instructor there, I asked the right questions and I just I took as much as I could from that experience and I even started like a Toronto EDM community and I learned a lot in the following six to nine months and it was with them different interesting gigs that we booked and we collaborated with different DJs and I just became more serious to the point where I was practicing at home more frequently. I started working with another DJ who I went to a couple gigs with, and while Nino was training a couple other guys, and that led us to the same point again where he tells me you got to put yourself out there, so you're better now. You're going to be OK.

Nino: 25:47

Get gigs. Yeah, I told him there's only so much I can teach you. You have to actually get gigs so you can deal with clients, you can deal with set up, everything that has to do behind the scenes and that I was dealing with. But you were, you were with me, but you weren't really dealing with them personally yourself and you would learn so much more if you would deal it.

Ilia: 26:07

Deal with it by yourself on your own, yes, and I decided to put myself out there. I I created a couple nice ads. You know I got some more footage at that point and you know I got another gig in just before that from one of my older friends who mentored me for a couple months and I felt like I'm ready. So I mean that's as ready as I'm going to get. I got to do this and hopefully I don't crash and burn, and if I do, I'll learn from it.

Ilia: 26:39

My first gig was my first gig on my own. I got everything by myself. I dealt with the client by myself, I went there by myself, I did everything on my own and I came back and it was just an enlightening experience. That was September. I think the first week or second week of September it was a 30th party at a party room. Then the next one was a sweet 16. That's that was already October. So one gig in September, one gig in October. And then he gave me a gig in October. It was a Halloween gig for for an elementary school who wanted me back. And then November I had no gigs. And then December I had the corporate Christmas party and then you gave me a really good gig, which really Changed everything for me.

Ilia: 27:28

My last gig just opened up my eyes and it's so hard to explain right now in just a couple words, so I'm just not gonna get into too many details right now. Yes, this is just an intro episode, but it really showed me all the things that this guy was talking about, and I'm always right, man.

Nino: 27:46

I've tell, I tell you all the time to listen to me and you know, I know people have to go through through things the hard way and he kind of had to go through things the hard way I had to.

Ilia: 27:59

I had to really understand it on my own.

Nino: 28:01

He had to understand that I was always right, because I am always okay. Okay, okay, you're always right. Okay, you got it.

Ilia: 28:10

But he was right and even though you know, I knew on some level that you know I have to do gigs, I thought maybe there's another way, but I knew that it's probably no other way I got to do it and it wasn't as scary as I thought it would be because I got some more experience in between. I did have another gig with another, like you know, semi Professional DJ, who came with me to another where I used to actually work as a bartender, slash waiter that's another funny story which, again, we will note and we'll talk about and it will be great experience for everyone. But I got all these gigs and I Am now at a point where I have my own business. I have clients, people are calling me, I'm getting paid regularly, I finally started my, my career and you know I have a lot to thank you for this, thank you.

Nino: 29:02

You're welcome, it's my pleasure. I like to you know, put, push it forward and just to teach people. It gives me great pleasure, great pleasure to Do yeah, I remember sitting there in your chair like those were the days, man. I'm like a man, is this, this guy ever gonna get it? And yeah, it took a while, but you know a lot of a lot of adjusting.

Ilia: 29:30

Yeah right, a lot of adjusting, and that's basically how we got together, and now we're, we're here talking to you guys and Without getting in again into too many details about that process and everything you know, we just wanted to tell you kind of what the journey was like and we can, we can go into detail later If you, if any of you wants to hear about this, and then we'll pick up on what you guys want to listen to guys, I want to hear this and want to watch, and we have some funny stories and stuff we do Of yeah, everything that we've gone through.

Nino: 30:06

So I hope you guys Join us on this journey, because we're happy to share everything with you guys our experiences and my knowledge, as Well as his point of view of everything that we're he's going through in terms of DJing, yes, and There'll be a couple ways to actually join our podcast.

Ilia: 30:30

It's gonna be audio only on all the platforms, but then on YouTube will have a video version of it, which is where you're watching it right now.

Ilia: 30:41

This is just gonna give people an opportunity to pick what they prefer and and the reason why we also have a video version is because we feel like we can Connect with you better. If you know, if you watch us and there are certain things we'll have to show. You will have a obviously weekly episodes. We're still not sure what day the episodes will be on, but You'll pick up on it when you see when, when it's getting posted, we'll have live sessions will have. We'll start having those maybe on the first, maybe on the second month, we'll see when we have those. But those live sessions will be mainly for giveaways and some other sort of Contests or challenges or certain things. We'll do what were live makes sense.

Nino: 31:25

In the future we're gonna have interviews like guest interviews like DJs, people in the industry that are related to the industry. So, yeah, it's gonna be very informative, very fun to listen to to yeah, we'll have different, like I said, challenges.

Ilia: 31:43

You mentioned interviews, giveaways, and there's just so much to come and we're very excited.

Nino: 31:51

We are talking and we're. It's a banter type of podcast, so we're gonna be like talking everything's off the top of the head. So we're just, we're not nothing scripted.

Ilia: 32:01

Very minorly edited yeah, not edited at all. Pretty much as far as we know, at this point Our, our camera overheated three times, so there will be a point where it's gonna like snap, well, no, it's good for now, but yeah.

Nino: 32:19

Yeah, yeah, but took us this much to get to this point, man. So we're we're pretty much done our first.

Ilia: 32:26

We've yeah, yeah, we have what.

Nino: 32:30

We're glad to start this journey with you guys.

Ilia: 32:33

We're excited yeah, a lot more to come, a lot more to come. Thank you very much for joining our First episode of the clever DJ podcast. Thank you everyone, stay clever.

Nino: 32:43

Yeah, you did it bro.