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Goated Podcast Episode 27 - Travis Hasse
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On this Episode of the Goated Podcast, Kevin sits down with Travis Hasse and trace a life from small-town football discipline through a felony conviction and back into purpose, building companies that feed families and house hundreds. We break down cash flow scars, Amazon’s last mile, Rich Dad real estate plays, and why mentors beat ego.
• small-town roots and winning culture
• coaches who set standards
• the fight, conviction and hard reset
• reconciliation and felony reduction
• liquor startup lessons and cash flow
• mentors, Ramchata and scale
• Amazon DSP logistics and safety
• Rivian vans, tech and the future
• Rich Dad mindset and tax strategy
• building a team for real estate growth
• faith, service and Beyond the Brotherhood
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Welcome And Guest Intro
SPEAKER_00You know, one of my best friends growing up in high school, and I followed him on to college. Um, he had played in the NFL. We were back for the first year. And we weren't doing anything wrong. We're actually just heading back to his house. And um, you know, we ended up, you know, pulling up on this group of college, you know, college kids that were at a house party. Um, one of the kids kicks the car, so we get out of the car, one of those things, right? And altercation took place, and the one gentleman that I hit ended up going blind in one eye, right? So instantly there um life changes.
SPEAKER_01Just the experiments, experiment, experience growing up. Um things you went through.
SPEAKER_00100%. It's when we look at business, when you talk about business, I know that you mentioned that, but when you kind of rewind as a person, you look at what were those building blocks or fundamentals that actually allow you to build that. Okay. And at that time, you really don't know what you're going through as a young person. Okay. So I was blessed, uh, grew up in Monroe, Wisconsin. Um, we're actually the Monroe cheesemakers. Our mascot is a mouse. True story. In fact, my senior year, we were ranked 13th in the nation at all high school levels, and we were ranked second in the USA today for the worst name of any high school.
SPEAKER_03I told you all of my critics. I told you all.
SPEAKER_01Travis Hasi. Hasi. Hazie.
SPEAKER_00Um It's always tough for you.
Small-Town Roots And Winning Culture
SPEAKER_01I know. Well, I wish I would have asked. Right before this, I asked, I'm like, I already knew. Um great guy, great person. We got to hang out a couple nights ago at Marilago with him and his wife and my wife. Uh, we saw the ultimate human. Shout out Gary Brecom. I'm wearing the polos, uh, the ultimate human polos. Um, and uh got to know him uh last couple weeks and months, uh better than I've known you for a couple months. And um so inspired by your story and and so grateful for who you are and and uh grateful that you're a Floridian now. So he's got a house in in uh Florida, Freedom State, and uh I'll get to see him more, but I'm glad to have him on the podcast. He has uh won a couple state championships, cu uh national championship in football, and uh has a great um business story, has a great uh redemption story that we're gonna hear about. And um he is uh, like I said, most importantly now transferring to Floridian, so this is the greatest accomplishment. Yeah, well thanks for having me.
SPEAKER_00This is great. So congrats on the success too. Thank you. That was fun with Gary Brecka there. It was, you know, we had obviously you know he's good friends with Patrick Dearborn and uh Patrick actually is my neighbor, right? Yeah. So is how how I kind of got connected with everybody in Florida. It my wife and I, we used to have a place in Treasure Island, Florida, since 2019, but Helene took that out on Sunset Beach, if you know where that area is. Um so instead of rebuilding up there, we uh decided to come down here at Naples, met uh met Patrick. I don't know if you know Eric Innis from Coastline Canine. Um so we have a we have a Dutch Shepherd, Dixie, that Eric's a former Army Ranger. Now he trains dogs. So we have a nice Dutch Shepherd that that he trained for a couple years, and Patrick also is is obviously an airborne ranger. So how we met there, and uh, and obviously Patrick's Gary's best friend.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So at Marilago, we actually uh went out on the beach the next day and walked through Gary's morning routine and it was pretty cool. See a lot and sitting right next to it.
SPEAKER_01So Neapolitan, I should say. You're you're now a Neapolitan. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So hanging out with the goat of biohacking. Not not a bad thing.
SPEAKER_01No. The uh what he's done and and uh in the business world has been awesome. He's had a little um or had a big boom, Gary Breca. Um just helping people and just putting people first, and that's what we talk a lot about goaded mentality and goaded um basis. So I want to hear about um your business life, but I want to hear first, let's let's talk about like so. I mentioned the high school state championships. So you're in high school, um, dominant high school. Now I have to uh preface this. Everyone knows watching that it's it wasn't a Florida state championship, so it's not as as benefit or not as uh something that needs to be as decorated now kid. Yeah, or whatever. No, but solid um run that the coach of the school had. But uh tell me about high school and college and then um just to experiments experiment experience growing up, um you know it's things you went through.
SPEAKER_00100%. It's when we look at business, when you talk about business, I know that you mentioned that, but when you kind of rewind as a person, you look at what were those building blocks or fundamentals that actually allow you to build that, okay. And at that time, you really don't know what you're going through as a young person. Okay. So I was blessed, uh, grew up in Monroe, Wisconsin. Um, we're actually the Monroe cheesemakers. Our mascot is a mouse. True story. I love it. In fact, my senior year, we were ranked 13th in the nation at all high school levels, and we were ranked second in the USA today for the worst name of any high school. And uh number one was the Freeport Pretzels, which was located 15 minutes away from us. So it's kind of funny. But we had a great coach. Um you know, we want to talk with people that change a lot of young men's you know lives. Uh Pat Martin, um he had a 52-game win streak. Um I was fortunate enough to be on great teams, you know, as I always call it the Al Bundy Pokeye. You know, I know you're too young to watch Married with Children, but you know, you had five touchdowns in one game, um, the shoe salesman, but it's always great. I always giggle at it. But it's it's great to reflect on that and go back and look at it. And, you know, I was fortunate enough, like, you know, I lost one high school football game my entire career, you know, at Monroe. Um, great, like I said, great fundamentals, captained some teams, and then went on to play football in the college level at the University of Wisconsin lacrosse, uh played football there. Every state school in Wisconsin is either University of Wisconsin Madison, University of Wisconsin-Eaure, University of Wisconsin-Whitewater, which had a great run too, um, multiple national championships against Mount Union. I mean, it's it's uh out of any sports, that's that's a great story there. But yeah, my freshman year then we won um in Salem, Virginia, we won the Stag Bowl, uh, went, you know, undefeated my freshman year, played a little bit there, which was great. So, you know, fortunately I went six years or five years and actually lost one game and lost my second game in the semifinals to go to the national championship. So, you know, going six years, losing two games, not because of Travis, always because of good teams, and uh rewinding that or accelerating that into business. It's I knew that if I built good teams or good fundamentals, you know, I could lay a good foundation there.
SPEAKER_01So Billy Billy Graham was close or was close to our family. We've got um one of my one of his great grandchildren is one of my best friends, and he said um the impact a coach will have uh is d I can't remember what exactly what it was, but he said the the impact a coach would have um is way more impactful than the parents in in those high school and middle school years. So it's great to hear that because it it challenges now it challenges us now as as business owners and as leaders in our companies to to reflect on what our coaches were kind of trying to instill in us, right? And if you have good coaches and you use that platform to impact the kids and the the the people that have been trusted to you, then you've got lifelong, like we're we're 30 years later now talking about high school coaches, still happens to this day.
Coaches, Discipline, And Life Lessons
SPEAKER_00It's it's fun because his uh my coach Pat Martin, his son Rob Martin's one of my best friends, and um so Coach Martin luckily is still with us, you know, which is great. Um and just because you say it is so long afterwards, and it's kind of bad that you have to think about that. So I don't wish that upon it. But he um, you know, he's kind of a different guy, like when you see him around from what I'm used to, um, but still treats me the same. So and I I think that he knows that it's like he knows that I really respect him. I still call him coach. Um, you know, and I had another coach, Coach Krishanovich, who was our position coach in college. Uh he's you know big angry Russian that played O line for the Redskins, as we always called them, but you know, walking out the practice every day. We used to say he had a rain cloud over him 24-7 and the storms were just brewing. You know, but he'd come out and he'd make us work and you made us learn it, you know. So I mean that that the history of sports and and um you know the way I look at you know everything in life, like it just it just pushes you to that discipline of of everything forward. So true.
SPEAKER_01I love it. The um end of your college career, you got in some trouble. I did.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it and true. I mean, this it it's kind of this is a situation where it's one of the worst things that happened to you, always can turn out to be one of the best things that happened to you. Yeah. And just in our life, right, you know, between my junior and senior year of college, um, going into my senior year, you know, you're all cocky, you know, you're playing defense in college football, right? The world is, you know, you're invincible. And it's it's fun, you know. I mean, not fun, but it's uh, you know, one of those nights where, you know, one of my best friends growing up in high school and I followed him on to college. Um he had played in the NFL. We were back for the first year. And we weren't doing anything wrong. We're actually just heading back to his house. And um, you know, we ended up, you know, pulling up on this group of college, you know, college kids that were at a house party. Um, one of the kids kicks the car. So we get out of the car, one of those things, right? And altercation took place, and the one gentleman that I hit ended up going blind in one eye, right? So instantly there um life changes. Yeah. And you know, getting arrested. They actually pulled out a football program is how they identified me. So even just being on campus, they kind of just kind of figured that out, right? Um, and that's one of the things too. Like when I talk to a lot of kids that are in college football right now, or just even when you're held, when you're when you're trying to excel at excellence, which I think every kid should do. Yeah, one of the downfalls is you got everybody, you you have to hold yourself at a higher standard. I hate to say it. Life isn't fair, it's not the YMCA where everybody's a winner. They're always gonna peg you out. Look at Tom Brady, every single you know, everybody, Joe Rogan, they all want to see something negative happen to them. Right? For some reason it's weird. Yeah. Um but yeah, so I got into trouble there, went to trial, got convicted at trial of aggravated battery, uh, became a convicted felon. You know what I mean, from that standpoint. Kicked out of every state school in the cross or every state school in Wisconsin that I couldn't attend. Um, and then you're, you know, building retaining walls, wondering what you're gonna do for life. I wanted to be a coach and be a teacher, and now I have a battery charge felony, and I'm a big outdoorsman if you know me. I'm a very, very avid outdoorsman, you know, hunting elk, etc. I mean, 85 to 90 percent of what my wife and I eat at home today I've harvested in the wild.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Awesome.
SPEAKER_00Uh which is fun. Yeah, and it's it's it's a great adventure from there. But you know, going along in that point, and you know, I was telling Patrick this the other day. We were actually, you know, right, you know, right before doing Breathworth, that he never heard the story, so I was sitting there and telling it to him. Um, but you know, God takes in kind of a weird path sometimes, right? And you gotta, you know, you learn some things, you know, negative things that happen. And one of the companies that I used to own was a liquor company. Yeah. And this is just kind of how things I think happen for a reason. One day I was actually marketing alcohol back in La Crosse, Wisconsin, where I went to college and played football and got in trouble. And I was actually sitting in a little, small, cool little tiny little bar. I mean, in if you don't know in Wisconsin, like there's a bar in every corner of Wisconsin in the streets. Um and it's where, you know, there's you know, getting to the winter, there's a lot of camaraderie, there's a lot of fans, you know what I mean? It's cool. It's just it's a tree, it's a thing of Wisconsin. But I was sitting in a bar right across the street from where I was in jail. Okay? Just kind of one of those weird moments where you're just sitting there. Talking, I was the only person in the bar talking with the bartender, just having a conversation like this. You know, the bartender was telling me like you gotta play guitar in Colorado, etc. Sat there for half hour to an hour just having a good conversation and just got up and left. A couple months later, uh one of my f former teammates, Luke, was like, Hey, that was pretty cool what you do to Christian. And I'm like, you know, I'm like, okay. And I one of those where you don't really it's not registering with you. And all of a sudden, you know, just kind of talked with Luke. I'm like, hey Luke, good seeing you, whatever. Another month goes by and it dawns on me that Christian, who is the gentleman who actually got blinded in the fight, was the bartender sitting in that bar while I was out marketing alcohol for our brand right across the kitty corner from where I was actually in jail. True story, right? And so I'm sitting there, and this is kind of like when Facebook first started kind of rolling out because I'm 48. Okay, so book face, as I call it, wasn't you know, really social media wasn't really a big thing, right? And I went on there and I actually found Christian there, and I'm like, I'm like, man, I and he never said a word, and I never said that I was having a conversation with that you had altered a lot of people. Nothing ever came up in our conversation.
SPEAKER_01And he knew you who you were, had to, yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, well, because he told people. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Wow.
SPEAKER_00And and I wanted to treat him any way different either. Yeah. Okay. And but it was just like surreal, just like how you can take any noise out of your life, anything that you believe that's gonna be an emotion or create some sort of negativity to it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And if you're whatever's anybody's faith, any of any of that stuff, right? Adversity, whatever, just bring it all full circle, and you just actually just sit down and have a conversation. And it was, you know, I reached out to him and I was like, hey, you know what, your family looks great, you know. And it like I said, it all it brought it back full circle for me. And now I can vividly remember it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I'm like, hey, I'm you know, glad that's there, you know, always, you know, hey, sorry about you know what we went through when we were young, etc. And I kept in contact with him. Then um he actually, you know, one of my attorneys that I was always trying to appeal it, and I didn't even preface it so I mean I was this was years later. Yeah, already like kind of moved on with my life, already started a new company, um, was married, you know, all that stuff, and and same with him. Um now he you know operates and manages an awesome like high-end restaurant in the town of La Crosse. Um But the cool thing was though, as I asked him, hey, if I could ever try to get my felony reduced, would you ever be against that? And he's like, No, it actually would help you.
SPEAKER_01Right?
SPEAKER_00Okay. Um and uh tears me up.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Right. Um so very, very cool. Then I actually reached out to the district attorney that actually prosecuted me.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
The Fight, Conviction, And Fallout
SPEAKER_00And uh asked her if it would be okay, but she was actually out of that county. She had moved over to a different county, so she couldn't do anything. So she put me in contact with like a local, and my attorney got involved to help me out. He was a former um you know, local friend at at my home. Uh, there was two attorneys there that actually helped me, you know, from that standpoint. Um, one is a you know former Air Force uh fighter pilot, right? And then Greg Canoe, who's just a long time Monroe, you know, strong attorney. Um, both of them helped me. And so we all got in contact, and Laura Lee Clark, her name was, you know, she just says, Hey, I got no problem with you talking there. I went to call him and tell him whatever, but I can't sway anything. We reached out to the DAs and um they agreed to hear it, you know, what we had to say. And Christian actually helped um because his eyesight, you know, partially came back, etc. And he wrote, you know, talked to the DA about everything, you know, how his eyesight sort of came back, etc. I actually never told a story in public. It's great. And um, so we actually went, I can remember, didn't have any money, and I was paying Greg Canoe, so we drove from Monroe to the Cross, which is like a three and a half hour drive. So I know that this attorney bill is just rolling. Yeah. Right. And so we go up there and we think that we got a shot to actually, you know, just reduce it to a misdemeanor from a felony. Um, but the great part was is that you know, we went up there, um, met with, you know, the DA was there. I can remember going into the courtroom and they're like, hey, we're gonna delay you to the end. And I'm just sitting here like, you know, yeah hours, hours, hours, 300 bucks an hour, yeah, right. You know that running a business. Um and we went up there, uh, you know, attorney Kenoki did this whole great spiel and uh, you know, talked about the facts of the case. And the judge happened to be the head DA while my case was prosecuted and Laura Lee was underneath them. So after he talks, you know, the judge Bjorke goes, I'm sorry, but I actually can't hear this case because I was part of this case. I remember this case. And I'm just like, oh man. I'm like looking at my watch, right? And he goes, but he goes, if you waive that right, I can hear this. And I looked at my attorney and he goes, What do you got to lose? Yeah. So I'm like, yeah, I don't have a problem with that. Um and I remember looking over at the the prosecuting attorney, was just sitting there just working on paper. I'm like, this is never gonna work, right? Um and you know, the judge asked if he had any contestant to open reopen the case if I pled guilty right away to a misdemeanor right on the spot. My attorney had all the paperwork done. And he just goes, I got no problem with it. That was it. He goes, I already talked to Laura Lee Clark and I talked to the victim, and we're okay with it. It won't cost the taxpayers any more money, etc. Um, and I can remember Judge Bu you know, he sat back in his chair a little bit and he just kind of looked at me. You know what I mean? And he actually said, This is really cool. He's like, you know, he goes, I don't have a problem with this. He goes, you know, I followed your case and he goes, I followed what you've done like after the fact. Um he goes, I know that you've talked to some students and etc. about what it's like to be a good person and a good leader that's out there. And he goes, I have no problem doing this. And you know, I can remember that it's one time I walked up and I shook his hand and even the bailiff didn't even move. You know what I mean? How many times does some a defendant approach the judge?
SPEAKER_02Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_00Um, we signed a paper and done. We drove home. It's amazing. So and it's kind of crazy just like I said, not to be have a long story, but it's it's when you look at some of the worst things that actually happened to you, what you can learn and just you know followed up with good discipline and you know know that you're actually not stuck like in a rabbit hole at that time that you can actually put something forward into the future for yourself. And the past you just have to learn for it, enjoy the wins, enjoy the mistakes, but then look forward out grow forward from it.
SPEAKER_01Yeah that I mean it's amazing because your plan before that was to teach coach um probably football, right? For stick around to it. And now you've reached thousands of thousands of people and are connecting the dots with people that are moving millions of people and in business and helping them and built a thing for I mean built a an amazing life for yourself but also impact a ton of people including the people listening.
SPEAKER_00I've been fortunate enough to say I've employed well over a thousand people. It's amazing and I I it's not being arrogant it's not being cocky. It's I the what I like to look at of of looking at your employees take the PLs out of it but it's how many miles you feed what's the velocity of that money turning over in those local economies. Yeah. Those those are the wins that when I get up it's not how many more watches I can have or how you know any of that stuff, right?
SPEAKER_01It's like to me is impacted.
SPEAKER_00Yeah and and even today to you know as even like real estate you know I've been I've been fortunate enough to buy real estate to help employees with housing as the cost of housing goes up yeah that you know I can help them out their good parents or good dads you know good moms and game changer for it's a game changer for a lot of people.
SPEAKER_01Yeah for sure so in business you've done a lot and I'm so pumped to hear about it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So you started with the liquor company you mentioned so if you know apple pie shots okay so in I think it was like 2005 is when I started that and apple pie shots is as I would kind of call it the lemon cello of the Midwest if you want to or like out in Kentucky New North Carolina etc and you know basically it was just apple cider you know um uh apple cider apple juice some sugars and stuff like that and you would add grain alcohol and it it has like that apple cinnamon flavor to it.
SPEAKER_02It sounds terrible.
A Surreal Reunion And Restitution
SPEAKER_00Yeah right but uh in Wisconsin there was all these small bars that were actually selling it um and you know vividly there's you know there was a cool bar that we went to as a former business partner of mine Trent Kramer had uh has so has a really cool place called the vintage in Wisconsin um and they would make homemade versions and you know he and I were partners in a place called the Missouri Tavern um and then him and I you know split up uh a good split nothing nothing bad there he opened up you know six more places and I kept the Missouri Tavern um we would make homemade versions there you know my dad used to make it as a kid too you know even when he was a young man and um we just sold it as shots there. So I kind of figured like I don't know if this is truly legal how we're doing this knew nothing about the industry. So I went on a venture to you know look at that and you were trying to bottle it. Yeah and how I could bottle it. And at that time there were literally 89 distilleries in the country and most of them were making pharmaceutical grade alcohol. So and now with like craft spirits etc there's over 4,000. So it's something that's actually boom. So when I started there wasn't a lot that was going on in there and and my ignorance was bliss in all reality not really having uh am I too scared to try this I know too much. I'm too close to it sometimes when you're a fish in the water you don't even know you're in the water. Yeah and I just went out and you know found someone to bottle it I had a goal to do 200 cases in a year which is a lot and I was going to go out and sell it myself um in my first less than two months I had sold over 2000 cases. It just caught on um kind of like wildfire if you want to call it like it went through the around uh the state of Wisconsin pretty well and actually all throughout Ohio ended up growing that pretty well trying to find out what cash flow is and then I think I told you one time twice I had to go to the casino I never tell anybody to do this but twice I had to go to the casino to make payroll true story playing blackjack it's crazy I only had a couple employees at that time but it was true right um and just nervous and but I knew nothing about cash flow and now if you know today like I think you know me and you know one of my good mentors Kenny McElroy his thing is cash flow and really studying along as a young man and finding those good mentors you know later on um a few years later I ended up meeting a gentleman by the name of you know Tom Moss who's he's not really out in the public you know a lot but he had an idea that he wanted to do a great brand called Ramchada. So I met him through a mutual friend ended up moving my brand because he wanted to build a pro production facility in Madison I was bottling with you know a couple Brian and Maui Pearson in Michigan just because Wisconsin didn't have any distilleries at that time. So I was able to move from there and you know move it with Tom as he built his facility and then he started launching his brands and then I started helping him sell you know around the country and did him and I didn't consume your brand or did it did they know him and I actually just kept our brands and just like if you and I went out we literally went to the nightclub and bar show uh our friend Dave Alger snuck us into his booth. I mean Tom and I were taking carpet rolls and just rolling it out and we set up literally a pot or uh a pub table him and I shared it and we just stood in a corner and we just started pouring samples from that end on him he was great he was an old he's I mean he's 70 gosh he's got to be 72 years old now I think or 70 maybe so I don't want to date him so if he hears this I apologize. He became a great mentor to me he worked for fortune brands you know and we'll get to this finding good mentors in life is is the key to everything. And I did it in football. I had Brett Harper in high school you know I mean I had I followed him into college at lacrosse and I had another guy Mike Ivy you know uh Eric Bronchek I mean there's a a list that I can go on even guys there Craig Cusick Matt Spellman I found these guys that actually just always just kind of emulate there and Tom became that person kind of in my first business portion and he helped me with my cash flow problem you know what I mean if I moved my brand there he helped me out did the billing and receiving and all this stuff he understood it because he worked at Jim Beam you know he developed Apple Puckers you know just big brands like that so he really understood the wholesaler part of the business. So my brand got to go along for a ride there and then you know I went out and helped sell you know sold all the brands nice um Ramchada was one of those lightning in the bottle it went nationwide very very fast um so I got to watch that grow and watch Tom and work on there he allowed me to sit on the board of directors at one of his companies so I got to see firsthand everything from there and then once that grew um Tom actually bought out my my ownership which is awesome yeah um him and I also built an awesome whiskey facility in Cambridge Wisconsin it's called the Dancing Goat Distillery uh I built it with yeah 100% it's still going it's still going it's awesome um him and his son um his son Nick who's a great kid you know full circle he used to when he was in college he used to rep apple pie for me before Ramchada was even down in Iowa so it's a big full circle how things work with good people and we knew someday that Ramchada would sell you know which it ended up selling a gala wine company um so his son Nick and I and and Tom we all built the whiskey facility and then I wanted to go on and do some other things in the real estate I just kind of just wanted to try something different. Still great friends with the family call them all the time say I love you you know things are great and um sold that in 2019 after we sold that I was fishing with my friend Brad who works at UPS up in Canada. So he's making fun of me calling me Hollywood money bags all that fun stuff right he goes what are you going to do now and I'm like well I'm gonna come deliver packages with you Brad and he was literally it's like you know you can seriously do that during you can do that during the the holiday season I'm like dude I'm gonna look into it flew from Canada down to see my wife at our old place I told you we had in in in Sunset beach and Treasure Island. I was standing there and an Amazon van drove by and I literally stopped the van and it was a kid and I'm just like hey when did Amazon start delivering packages he's like why work for a third party contractor. So I got the information of his boss and then I backtracked it and you know ended up getting into it's called an Amazon delivery service partner. So we run a good chunk of the last mile delivery um up in Madison Wisconsin and Milwaukee that kind of goes throughout the state of Wisconsin. Today we currently employ about 230 you know full-time drivers and we've got about a hundred and forty branded Amazon vans.
SPEAKER_01Vehicles wow so Amazon I was fascinated when you told me this so um we're in I mean there's a ton of facilities probably where everyone's listening right these big Amazon bad 2200 of them in the country. Insane and the last mile is uh from those facilities to the local areas and there's there's contractors you're one of 22 like 2200 2200 2200 yeah it's actually Amazon it's it's it's phenomenal Amazon has built literally the I believe don't mark me on this one right you can fact check me later right but uh I believe it's the largest commercial fleet in the world oh I would imagine for sure yeah um and they and you you and the other 22 2200 roughly uh are providing the last mile so they don't it's really getting those facilities I was blown away by that because in my mind I'm I'm still blown away every day which a lot of us I'm sure are that I'll order something at 11 p.m and by 4 a.m it's at my doorstep it's it's amazing.
SPEAKER_00It's um it's a game changer right I mean it's you look at Amazon as a disruptor when the internet came around right and but you also get in that point when retail wise you're building that big you can't rely on third party to deliver to your you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yeah and they they own the real estate as well.
SPEAKER_00So they own the real estate as well and the vehicles and they own and well yeah so we work with them where I actually lease I purchase and um rent all at the same time. Okay. Right just to try to get enough fleet from that. That's crazy. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I believe I I heard someone say something like this but I believe USPS and these other UPS FedEx are gonna have a hard time we're gonna have a hard time not having a national service that's just Amazon. I believe that's got to be coming. What do you what do you think on that?
Courtroom Closure And A Second Chance
SPEAKER_00Yeah I mean obviously I'm biased you know what I mean and you know Amazon's my customer I'm a vendor to Amazon okay you know from that standpoint okay so our you know they always want us to do things safer you know higher quality for their customer because we're delivering their customers' goods I mean think about like a subway sandwich too right they're they're call them a franchise which we're technically not a franchise with them with our w relationship but if you took like a subway you know what I mean yeah you have someone that works for some an operator okay you got to deliver that same quality and you know it's gonna be awesome to see where technology goes and even just looking at like if you see the Rivian vans that are going there Amazon you know partnered with Rivian designed you know Rivian designed a the vans are very ergonomically work well for our drivers so since we've gotten them like our work comp has gone down like the elect you know the electrification obviously the range is doing better all the time as they come out with they're autonomous or no? Um well that they're built that way but not yet okay but if you can think about all the data that they're collecting like Tesla has right I mean it's only inevitable where they will I mean look at Waymo look at all of it and I mean Waymo now is doing Uber Eats in Phoenix. I don't know if you know that they're gonna be launching in Austin Texas right so the restaurant would have to have a staff person put in the vehicle I guess right yeah it drives it over and then but I mean that's the different uh DoorDash DoorDash is bringing it to your house so how is Waymo going to compete with that true right so looking at that the technology is going to be there and for me it's awesome because everybody's like well someday you're gonna lose your gig I'm like I don't disagree I just think it's kind of like you know what Milton Freeman you know will will say and you know Thomas Sowell who I think Thomas Sowell is the most brilliant mind in the world if you don't know who he is he's 93 years old. I mean he's kind of a I mean look him up Thomas Sowell oh he's the best he used to be a professor I believe in New York okay um totally just has a great philosophy in life because he he they talk about like AI et cetera taking everybody out and they're like well if that's a true case take backhoes away and give everybody a shovel and you can create more jobs. And if you want to create even more jobs give everybody a spoon. And so when you look at the technology of a lot of companies like Amazon etc that are that they're putting all this research and design into everything with robotics and and drones and electrications and safety 100% yeah and safety and yeah it's you know there's proprietary stuff I don't want to talk about that I know because I don't want to lose my contract because I I I really appreciate them. They're great they're great to have in your back pocket. Trust me they really are and um but you're just it's going to evolve with them.
SPEAKER_01Yep. I went to so it's a crazy we so we were at Marilago two nights ago and last night I was at Jupiter with uh Trump Jupiter a different right up the road and a guy uh the club champion I got to meet uh beat President Trump who I had actually heard of when I played with President Trump right he told me about this guy that had just beaten him and they'd agreed to split and then after they didn't split the the co-champion thing right yeah um which is a no no in Trump properties he he wants to win all of them if he can right um and he's opening a he's opening the first ever in Jupiter uh location that's gonna do all brands uh or all of the companies shipping and fulfilling and returns so I don't know of a place like it he didn't know of a place it was a place up north um that's doing it but he was saying the same thing is um just the growth or the one thing he brought up and I want to tell you and we didn't talk about is he's like we we have data tracking on uh post offices that are being built there there are no post offices going up so at the scale of Amazon building new property buying property knocking down old properties putting their own um there's just no way that it doesn't head in that direction and and a lot of entrepreneurship is obviously data driven and I love the research story that you saw a kid and maybe it was someone just it was a it was a God thing. We all have that story as entrepreneurs that's like okay I asked a truck driver and he's a teenager tell me how this works how'd you get your packages when'd you start this morning what's your loop like and you ask those certain things and it's gone and you start to go well maybe there's a gap here or maybe there's a a uh just a disruptor welcoming here and that's a pretty cool story.
SPEAKER_00The full circle of it is right is my father's a retired diesel mechanic and my grandpa owned three trucks and he hauled cheese from the cheese factories from Monroe to Chicago. I love it. So I've always been around a shop you know and I always but I always just had an inclination before this and it's not because I'm a cool guy or whatever but I always knew who it was going to change logistics is somewhere I would end up in that. Right. And it just there there's some not to say you're gonna manifest some things in your life you know it's it's you you you sometimes you just feel something that you know is going to happen. You know it's like um and you know going from there it's just it how it worked out and so good.
SPEAKER_01And your story we talked about a little bit today I mean um how God uses your story to impact people you would never dream of like the stories you're telling now are impacting me. But John Cantrell who we just said on the podcast and um your story of being convicted felon for a while is going to impact and it already has many people. And then your story of I wanted to coach too I went into at Liberty University. I studied I was going to study education luckily my first ever class it was at 650 or 710 both same time to me I don't like being up that early and our teacher said uh the instructor or um professor I'm sorry in college said how many of you are ready to work the next 45 years, 50 years as a as a teacher because the retirement age is 70 so if you're going if you're not okay at the 710 time frame get ready for 710 to to 9 p.m for the next 50 years of your life and luckily that shouldn't have probably said that in that class but I was out of there and I'm like okay I'm not gonna teach and coach anymore. I'm gonna I have a God's blessed me with a business mind and I've always had businesses and I went into college going I'm gonna do education but and I went through things too that led me to where um I am in in the business world and I'm so grateful for him I look back now and I'm like I agree with you.
SPEAKER_00And when when you look at even school I'm not against school yeah okay but they don't teach the right things in school no I and I'll I'll a hundred percent say that same yeah you know learning we can go into that talking about real estate and all that other fun stuff but it's when you when you truly you know learn that but it like for me like probably you too it's all you knew.
SPEAKER_01Yep you know that's what the plan was you got to follow that plan. My dad I look up to a ton he's been on the podcast um have you got to meet my dad yet I've heard all about him.
SPEAKER_00I was hopefully going to meet him on Tuesday because Patrick you know I walked out my back door my first night stand there Patrick's out back doing his cold plunging and groundy and he's like come to Bible you know come come come to Bible study.
Liquor Startup And Cash Flow Crashes
SPEAKER_01And I'm like I will I I I I asked him if I could start joining it and which I'm going to when I'm gonna be here more I fly back out tomorrow which would be no his same path was he had owned a house in Miami he went from high school to working as a hard worker one of the hardest workers I know and my grandfather when he met my mom my mom's dad said you're not marrying my daughter unless you go to college forced him to go to college at 26 or 25 played football and uh changed his life he became pastor minister and I wouldn't be here obviously if he didn't go to college um but on the college thing it's the same thing. I went to college I did six years didn't get a degree I've hired a lot of guys with uh that don't have a degree and they're amazing workers perfect fits God's blessed me with and we've had obviously people that have have a degree in certain fields and all of it is we're learning we had a Bible study a company Bible study today at twelve I was driving across the alley and joined and I was tearing up because I'm like the staff that God's just put together here um just a blessing all their stories they talk about their stories how they grew up from Virginia to California to Oregon the guys that have landed here in in Southwest Florida just in God's timing where we needed their skill set and I needed their um piece of the puzzle and God has that for us.
SPEAKER_00So it's so awesome to it's easy to get wrapped up in your own stuff yeah right and to feel bad enough I don't want to swear but it's like that I would probably say you know excuse my language but yeah no it's our self- and to know the world's not evolving around you. Like you're on the ride with the world.
SPEAKER_01What a sad ride that can be too I was my wife and I were talking like if you're self And and I we all are, right? And I still struggle with it. But if you're waking up and you're thinking about yourself, it's a sad most days it's a sad day because you're thinking about what you don't have, what you didn't get, what red light you hit, how many red lights you hit, and instead of living Christ and living for others, which the greatest commandments, love God with your heart, all your heart, soul, and mind, strength. And then the second is the greatest of these, love others. I was just talking to my wife about that. We we skim past so many good verses, so many good things I've learned. But if you live for others and live for your team and God bless businesses, um and your family life and your everyone around you, it it bounces off 'em. Um in business, so we talk about goats. Um I gotta know your football goat, and but we're on the business topic, and we'll go into sports after. Uh in business, your mentor is so important. We talk about uh and you've already shared. But who are some goats in business that you've looked up to? And I'm sure you're gonna ask me a sport goat later.
SPEAKER_00Uh later, I'll ask sport goats, yeah. So business wise, um, I would say the goat out there is gonna be Robert Kiyosaki. Let's go. I think that you probably maybe knew that I was gonna say that. It's my I mean, and you you've met my main mentor in life, Kenny McElroy, who is a big part of Robert's crew. Yeah, okay, yeah. I haven't met him in person yet, but yeah, and um I met it's you know how life works, right? I met Kenny in Miami, your hometown, right? Yeah, I met him at an event called Rebel Capitalists, uh, it's like a macroeconomics convention, okay. And it's run by an awesome dude named George Gammon. Okay. If you ever, you know, heard his name, yeah. His YouTube channel is awesome. Yeah, and he he he doesn't have a degree in economics, okay? But he's he's phenomenal. Um, and I told my wife, it was like two days before I just work, I'm diligent. I get up in the morning, I work out, I do my routine, and I listen to certain things. And I told my wife 48 hours I go, I just I really want to go down. I've heard George Gammon talk about this. One of the guys that I met there happened to be a gentleman named Kenny McElroy. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Go follow Kenny McElroy, YouTube, Instagram. Kenny's the man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yes. Started wear a goaded before even just because I said these are good dudes.
SPEAKER_01You're the reason. So Travis is the reason he wears goaded.
SPEAKER_00Blessed. Blessed his head. So bless his heart. I love him. Was lucky. I, you know, my my wife is good friends with his wife. Uh, I was fortunate. Traveled, you know, I travel with him, we vacation with him. Uh I love the man. Uh, he's great. So um, but his main one of his main partners, and Kenny's the true real estate guy behind Robert Kiyosaki. Not saying that Robert doesn't know what he's doing. No, yeah, but Robert is obviously the GOAT in real estate because he still is a number one bestseller. How many years later, with his little purple book? Yeah. And we go back to saying that they don't teach you money in school. If you literally read that book, it would completely change the way that you look at everything. Yes. Right? And it did.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I actually had one of my drivers gave me the book. I didn't read it, I read it like when I had my employees. One of my employees. Never heard of it. And it was everything that I was fumbling through in business and learning and looking at. Um yeah, so today, I mean, in that in that 2020, I was it 2019, 2020 areas, the first investment property, I'll call it, that I purchased when I started learning more about cash flow, et cetera.
SPEAKER_01Where so wait one second, sorry. So you your driver, I'm putting this together. You had already sold a company.
SPEAKER_00Name's David Dorval. He's actually from Miami as well. Is he really? Yeah, he's listening to the city.
SPEAKER_01So you had already sold a company and done you didn't exit, you had done a lot of stuff.
SPEAKER_00You speak like this guy. Okay. Yeah. But you had some of it. Yeah. No, I never had heard of it. You'd never heard of it. Never even heard of Robert Kiyosaki.
SPEAKER_01And you had already done pretty well in business. Already done well in business. Okay. So you got the book with the the next company, the delivery company. Okay.
SPEAKER_00The driver gives it to you. Totally changed my mind the way I even operate my company and the way that I invest and look at taxes, et cetera.
SPEAKER_01For sure.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And you know, I said I, you know, studied all that, you know, the real estate stuff, but it started by obviously listening to that book, and it just made me think differently. But I didn't really know where to start or whatever. Then I was just then his podcast led me to George Gammon, to the real estate guys and Kenny McElroy. And then I just yeah, 100%.
SPEAKER_01And you hadn't really bought much real estate at that point. Yeah, at that point. You had your own house.
SPEAKER_00I had my own house, and then the first one I bought was a four-unit. Right. So because of the book. Because of the book. Because of the book. Yeah. I love it. And I just because I was paying when I sold my liquor company, I paid a ton in tax. Yeah. And I pulled, I did pull the Jim Rohn where I wrote it in the memo with great pride. I write this check. If you study Jim Rohn, I love it. Right, Jim Rohn talks about, you know, he talks about that. And but then I'm just like, that is the dumbest thing I did. How do people not pay tax? All this other stuff. So it took me on a whole different journey. Randomly, David Dorval used to drive for me. He's a great kid. He's from Miami, originally from Haiti. Yeah, his family is good dude. Lives in Atlanta now. I still talk to him. He's a young kid. I push him. I was never easy on him, like Pat Martin was never easy on me. Frustrated him, but I was okay with that. And he's doing great. He's boxing. He's doing all kinds of cool things. Awesome. And um, so like I would say 100% business-wise, Robert Keosak.
SPEAKER_01Rich Dad, poor dad, great book. 100%. And spin offs of that.
SPEAKER_00And I study with Robert today because I wanted to surround myself with great people, the mentors. And I just keep my mouth shut and I listen to them. And uh I study uh four four times a year with them for you know for three days. Okay. Uh in a group of great people called the collective that I do. You know, it's a good chunk of money to be in that room, but it changes the way that you look at, yeah, the collective is called the collective inner circle. Um Kenny's in it. Okay. You know what I mean? Robert Kiyosaki's in it. There's some great people, you know. Um my friend Phil Ingram, Steve Rice, um, then my business partner Danny Breese is in there. In there too. Okay. And uh Danny's one of my partners in in real estate. Um, you know, so collectively to today, uh, where I sit, what I'm involved with, um approaching on 700 properties.
SPEAKER_01Properties so insane across the U.S. International?
SPEAKER_00Yep. So Wisconsin, Florida, um, Minnesota, and Texas.
SPEAKER_01And a lot of them rental, they're all residential rentals.
SPEAKER_00All residential rentals. Actually, I take that back. We have a few car washes. So and that just when you start studying real estate, you see what the good tax plays are there.
SPEAKER_01So um just those are the only commercial car washes. Yeah, amazing. I've read about them. So that's inspiring. It's awesome. And the cash flow when you have that many properties, not a lot of people.
SPEAKER_00And I learned that I mean, Robert taught me to look try to look at things differently. I couldn't figure it out. And when I started hanging out with Kenny, it's I've never even ran a deal by Kenny. Everybody's always like, oh my god, Kenny, I'm just like, no, never. I talked to him two days ago and he's just he was laughing at me. I sent him a picture of myself and Patrick and Gary Brecker were doing breath work on the beach, and he's just like, he goes, I could do a whole lot of other things with this picture. He's just laughing at me, right? So good. Yeah, but uh, but yeah, great people.
Mentors, Ramchata, And Scaling Up
SPEAKER_01You know what's so good about what you just said is how many mentors has God blessed, I'm convicted right now. How many mentors has God blessed me with that I still instead of listening to their YouTube channel fully and watching what I'm and listening when I'm around them, I still bounce ideas off a lot of them. And you said something really good is you've known he's the goat of of investing in real estate and and and success and gives glory to God and is a believer. He's an awesome Macroy Kenny. And um and you don't bounce deals off him, you don't bounce ideas. And I'm in the stage now where people I consulted for a long time are still consulting. And I'm like, if you listen to the podcast, you would have heard this answer, right? Or if you would you don't have to listen to the podcast, but um we've already had this conversation. How many times have we had that as a mentor? It's like but listening, and I have to hear that because man, it's such a blessing as the mentor when you don't have to when you give your cell phone out and it's like you're not gonna bounce every deal, 700 pieces, 700 properties, you're gonna bounce every contract off me. So be present, listen. When God's blessed you with mentors, I'm con saying it to myself, pour into listening and focus on sponging instead of I'm thinking about the next thing and I'm gonna bounce this off you privately because it might not be what you preach, might not be what you actually believe is good. So and a hundred percent of it's a team. It's amazing.
SPEAKER_00Like Danny Breesy's an awesome asset operator, right? And then we have Mike Roter, you know, with our granted tower equity groups, he's the finance guy, finds the deals, etc. Right. And I've been able to help bring some capital to the deals and stuff like that. So it all works out great, you know. And and Dan and Mike were best friends growing up. Dan's actually a two-time gold medalist and snowboarding in in the X games. Okay, and I knew he had the discipline. And when I when I would be at a convention, he was one of the guys that was always at the gym every morning. So I just I knew he had the same ethos as me. So it's the right people around you. And the team is what actually builds it. It's not me. I built the right tax team. Like I got Grayson and Florisse. I don't do anything without talking to them. Uh they were they studied under a guy by the name of Tom Wheelwright, who's the goat of taxes. Okay. Like he's Robert Kiyosaki's personal accountant. Account. Okay. Um, I've been fortunate enough to actually, you know, present with him, which is awesome. That's awesome. And um, you know, and I paid him to obviously help me get my things moving right, but he personally doesn't do it. He built a team and a network to help. So it's it's always about that team.
SPEAKER_01Are you in the trust? Uh you have some trust? Is that I got all kinds of weird stuff. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So I mean basically, I mean, here's the simple thing, right? I use I love our delivery company, I love our people. Um, we we pay our team. I actually have a little bit more staff, is what I can, but I can remove myself from actively being involved into that all the time. And I spend my time actually on real estate. So I use the cash flow from that, invest into real estate, and then when you know like bonus depreciation, becoming a real estate professional, don't listen to me. You gotta hire your right people to get the right advice, but just I want to send you off and look into a different way of thinking about things. And when you roll around and you look at the end of the year, I actually pay zero income tax.
SPEAKER_01Amazing.
SPEAKER_00Because then I'm able to actually take that money instead of writing it to the government. The government wants to partner with you. It's not a tax loophole. No, it's not uh I don't even like that term, it's not like going around your taxes. Robert Kiyosaki always says you're selfish if you own one home. Right? And so I've been able to multiply that into providing food through the through the delivery company, right, to 200 plus employees. Now I'm also able to help provide housing up to it's getting close to we're not there yet, but it's just it's approaching 700 families that are around in how many different states. And that mindset of him, and when you understand bonus depreciation, um, there's an awesome dude that named Julio Gonzalez. If you want to look him up on Instagram, he's the most mysterious man in tax. Okay, you can learn a lot from him. You know, randomly I met him, he's been a member at Marilago for 20, like 20 years. Awesome. He wrote part of the big beautiful bill of the tax bill. He wrote the tax portion. Yeah. And randomly run into him, and you just surround yourself. I still love my buddies that I hunt with. Yeah, and they're they're always my boys. Yeah, right. I'm not better than any of them. No that I we're all the same people. Yeah, but I also surrounded myself with some different people that I enjoy. I enjoy the challenge, and but I still go back to my roots and hang out with my buddies. It's not I'm not cooler than them.
SPEAKER_01No, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I could I could go bankrupt tomorrow. I hope not. I hope that I structured things differently, right? Um, we're all none of us are, you know, you always have your back against the wall. And I had good parents, you know, from that standpoint. Um, and it's been a pretty good system. So good. I love it.
SPEAKER_01Um amazing. So the good wife too. That's that believes in me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Britain is awesome. I can't, I gotta throw that out there. Maybe in the dog.
SPEAKER_01I would help you get to that point. Um the goats of sports. Yep. As we close up.
SPEAKER_00Man, I loved Reggie White. Reggie White. Dude. So full circle. I'm gonna I'm I'm weird guy. I'm gonna give you two goats. Okay. Okay. And one's gonna throw you for a loop because it's uh, I would say, you know, like of of athletes that are rocking right now. Uh, but Reggie White and um become personal friends with Seth Joyner. This isn't name dropping. Met him through Kenny. Awesome, right? And um and Will that works with you randomly, ran into Kenny and Seth Joyner in Cordelaine, Idaho. Yeah, only because Kenny was wearing a goaded shirt. He's like, Why are you wearing a goaded shirt?
SPEAKER_01It's a table of like four 13 people. Will's been on this pub. Emmett Smith, yeah. Yeah, Emmett Smith's at the table, Robert or uh Tim Brown.
SPEAKER_00Tim Brown.
SPEAKER_01It's crazy, and one guy's wearing a goaded polo at the table.
SPEAKER_00Kenny McElroy's sitting there wearing a goaded polo, right? So Will saw him. But anyways, but but Seth Joyner, um, I've been fortunate enough to go to the Bahamas with him, play golf with them. Um, you know, just him. I I like these older guys, and just right and Kenny knew it right away and put me in a golf cart with them, right? Because he knew that I loved Reggie White as a kid, you know what I mean? And then Reggie White, you know, went from the Eagles to the Packers. I mean, Seth Joyner played a Packers, he's a Super Bowl winner, right? Yeah, and just hearing that and just loving it and seeing their path and their dedication, dude. It's it I loved it as a kid. So it was great.
SPEAKER_01But beast he won a lot of awards for giving back, too. Yeah, good, good person, killer on the field, yeah, but good person. Yeah. And Green Bay, I mean that area. Um Brett Favre was a hero for a lot of people and has had some stuff recently, I don't even know, but I know wasn't the best, or maybe accusations. Um, and they struggle with it. Like you said, everyone at the top, uh, there's the temptations when you get around these guys that have especially the old older guys. I'm very close friends now with Terry Kirby, Gary Sheffield, and you hear their stories of what they were I'd call them setups, as I hear more of but it's people look rooting for your downfall, right? And especially when you're going you're gonna be a first ballot Hall of Famer, you're gonna reach the pinnacle of your sport, you're gonna go to the Super Bowl, the other team has people. I so um and for us, it's like, okay, we're we're digital entrepreneurs, we're somewhat under the radar, right? And the temptation that they were able to to um survive through, but also the dedication to like their nutjobs. These goats, the guys that are goats, are are nut jobs that are not gonna let anything get in their way of success, and they're not gonna miss a workout. They're not gonna put something in their body that's that's going to hurt uh hurt them. They're gonna they just make wise choices because greatness is is the goal, right? And I think from what I've heard, he's he's one of them. That's a good that's a good goat.
Exiting Spirits And Entering Logistics
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so man, yeah. So I loved Reggie, you know, and then obviously, you know, like coming along with Seth, it just rounded out from me as a kid. But I mean, still, I I mean, you know, Tom Brady is still, I think, the best athlete in all the sport, but we can talk about that over a coffee some other day, dude. In anything. I mean, you the stats talk for itself. Yeah, he's a stuff. Talk about someone that everybody wanted to tear down, right? But I'd say live an athlete that's currently doing something that's gonna be probably different than anybody on your podcast, just because I'm an avid outdoorsman, um, but it's Cameron Haynes.
SPEAKER_01I don't even know who that is.
SPEAKER_00See, that's what I'm saying, dude. Cameron Haynes Cameron Haynes, he's unbelievable. Um, and he'll never even say he's an athlete. So Cameron was he worked, he's from Eugene, Oregon, um, and loved bow hunting. He was another guy who went on a on a realm, like you know, drank a lot when he was younger, blah blah blah. Rolled a truck and just woke up. Um his best friend was really into hunting and uh Roy. Um, and Roy unfortunately you know passed away during a hunting fatality, fell off a cliff in Alaska. Off awful story, right? Um but Cameron came along hunting with him and they did all this crazy stuff. Uh Cameron's just a great athlete. Um he's one guy that, like, if you know who David Goggins is, you know what I mean? The the Navy SEAL runner. Yeah, yeah, David. Yeah, he's crazy. Like Cam will run with him.
SPEAKER_02Run with them.
SPEAKER_00But Cam literally was worked, you know, as you know, in utilities or plumbing, etc. You know, and he didn't he never called in sick. It was like 20, god, was it 26 or 28 years he worked, never called in sick. And every day he would almost run a marathon. And he wasn't doing it to be a runner, he was doing it to be in the best shape, to be able to bow hunt and get to the places where the great elk were in the fall. Still does it to today. Wow. Uh he's a great guy of faith. Um, I've been lucky I met him once, um, just in an airport, which I kind of knew someday I would run into him there. He's got great kids, you know, his son Truett, um, he's got another son, Tanner. Um, I don't know his daughter's name, but they're all three great kids. Uh because like Tanner's uh you know Army Ranger, right? Yeah, but Truett is unbelievable. He actually uh he's this dude, this dude's a nut job, uh, because his dad's a whack job. But but just mean that facetiously, dude. They're great people. Uh but Truett actually just ran the Boston Marathon and ran very well, but he wears nothing but jeans, no shirt, you know, he just wears blue jeans. And he just, I mean, he broke uh the pull-up record, most pull-ups in 24 hours, did 10,000 in one pull-up, right? And you got a real thousand in one pull-up in 24 hours. He holds it, he holds a Guinness Book of World record for the most pull-ups in 24 hours. And when you look at him, I mean, look these guys up. Like, um, and Cameron is a guy when we look at you know some of the great people in media. Cameron's a guy who got Joe Rogan into archery hunting. So when you ever hear likes hear about Joe talk about archery hunting, etc., it's kind of funny that I love it that Joe's hunting because you know it brought hunting, you know, a lot of people there, but then getting to it just push more people in the public land where we're hunting. Yes, not in a bad way. I just mean that funny because I'm going more people that are out there enjoying the wildlife, enjoying great meat, yeah, uh moving around there. But definitely I'd say living athlete. Uh when you look at this guy, when you're gonna I mean, just start looking him up, like his fitness and his message, he he does it by example, he's not talking, he does it by leadership, good skills, um, just showing up and he'll always I mean he'll outwork you. He won't be the most talented that's out there, but I guarantee you he'll outwork you. And he's 50 some years old.
SPEAKER_02Wow.
SPEAKER_00Right. And uh it's really cool to watch his path. Um, so to me, and he writes books, right? Okay. Um, so to me, like that'd be the living goat so good for athletes.
SPEAKER_01He uh and that's all sports. I mean, across I mean, that's I gotta look him up.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, archery is archery's where it's at, man.
SPEAKER_01What other sports do you watch?
SPEAKER_00Um, you know what? Or do you like? Dude, I'm not a TV guy. It's probably a wise choice. You know what I mean? I just yeah, I I I'm always in my truck, um always listening to everything, but obviously I could follow things here at the end.
SPEAKER_01Wisconsin, you like Wisconsin football.
SPEAKER_00Wisconsin football's great, yeah. I mean they're they're they're rebuilding through there. Yeah, dude. I I um I I used to I do this is awesome, like right out of college, you know, um after I got into trouble and all that other fun stuff, it was great. You know, how your journey goes. I was uh um I worked for Al Michaels uh for Monday Night Football. Yeah, and um traveled there. Um, you know, so basically I'd get him chicken sandwiches and stuff like that right out of college. Um worked for Dennis Miller, uh worked for worked for coach when they all moved to Sunday night football.
SPEAKER_02Okay.
SPEAKER_00Um so did that for a little bit, been in almost every single stadium, um, which is great, had a lot of buddies in the NFL. But you know, for me, it's uh you know, more archery hunting, etc. Of course. Uh the Kiosakis of the world. You know, that's really where I I spend most of my time. I like to watch UFC. You know, I love watching Michael Chandler and Johnny Jones. fight. Yeah. Uh good people. I love it.
SPEAKER_01So blessed. Blessed to hear hear about it all. I know the people listening are. We'll have to have you back on and you'll be down here more. Hopefully I'm going to force it. And do you have anything last thing I usually ask, do you have anything that we could plug to the listeners where they could see more or did you stay under the radar? Do you have Instagram? Do you have a China?
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SPEAKER_00I used to have business stuff. I I started a new personal one right when I sold my liquor company I got rid of a lot of my social media just so it wasn't pulling towards me, which is cool. Just could you know I have a big ego my name's on a bottle for Travis Hause's apple pie, right? My mom used to put my name in my underwear so I had an ego. But um but no I'm just I'm Travis Haussey on Instagram T-R-A-V-I-S-H-A-S-S-E. You know DM me you know if anybody ever has any questions you know from from that standpoint which is pretty good. But um yeah you know just other than that um you know it's a plug there's a great organization out there called Beyond a Brotherhood that I help out with. My friend Steve Gatina and Matt Potter they own they started pray.com which we've talked about you've you've actually talked to Steve Steve sits on the board of director for Beyond a Brotherhood with Jocko Willis you know what I mean and basically what we do is we help mentor uh former Navy SEAL operators to move into civilian life right uh my good friend Jimmy May started it become one of my best friends we're now hunting together you know he takes me spear fishing for bluefin tuna dude it's rad amazing it's awesome right um so that organization out there is pretty cool if you're you're looking to support you know we were talking about money going and the the books are always wide open I think it's like eight percent or nine percent don't quote me there no higher than 11 I don't think that goes to admin cost but like Jocko sits on the board but he kind of holds back so it doesn't become the Jocko show it's all about the SEAL and the team guys they're great people and um you know check it out for Beyond the Brotherhood I w I want to ask real fast because I don't know the where did the appreciation did you serve or where's the appreciation for SEALs and good question where that can roll. So if you know uh the book and movie Lone Survivor okay uh one of my good friends Andy Hefley is one of the SEALs in the book. So Andy was um in high school with me okay two years younger than me played football super dedicated um it's a crazy story you ever know the Murph? Oh yeah like the Murph the workout that everybody does it's actually after a Navy do it every day yeah yeah yeah right but it's actually you know honored after um yeah Medal of Honor window Michael Murphy Murphy yes so um Andy was their platoon leader and you know this is all public so I'm not in this and I'm not throwing Michael under the bus when I say this but Michael accidentally shot Andy in a live ammunition training round right uh rounds up his back and he was all jacked up uh and a gentleman by the name of Marcus Luttrell if you ever heard of that was the medic on their team and was the first guy to be there to help Andy they met flighted him out all this stuff. Andy was in a coma for a long time and then you have the twins Marcus and Morgan Latrell they were both SEALs and now Morgan's a congressman out of Texas. Okay Marcus kind of did his whole thing with the Lone Survivor was out front but he kind of has backed off a little bit but they had an organization called the Lone Survivor Foundation. When Andy got injured the rest of those guys went to Afghanistan right and that's when that whole mission happened at Operation Red Wing which is one of the top losses for special forces in US history. Okay. And the only guy that came out was uh Marcus Lutrell Michael Murphy actually stood on a rock and took the comms right which was one of Andy my buddy's best friends and unfortunately got killed and that's where he got the Medal of Honor. Okay. Um and um so Andy today is still alive but he's in the book where he flew from Hawaii to Texas when they thought Marcus was dead to pay respect to his parents and he's all jacked up blah blah blah you know and they write in the book really well that didn't make the movie part of it but him and Danny Deets and all these guys they were all together right um so my friend Jimmy May knows you know knew him all these guys knew him but even to today I mean Andy can't move his arm I mean he's all jacked up he and super good dude. So when we had Ramchada um you know I Tom was fortunate enough to actually partner with the Lone Survivor Foundation okay where we started putting their logo on the front and did a freedom bottle. One year we sponsored uh Marco Andretti's race cart to Indy 500 because Tom loved the indie 500 yeah uh we brought Andy out there and that's when Twitter first started coming around and anytime someone treated you know tweeted Rumchada you know Tom would donate you know or Rumchada the organization but Tom set it up and then I worked it out with the Lone Survivor Foundation that the money went to them just because I knew a lot of money went there versus admin costs like not ripping out of their charities but but I also had a personal tie to it. Yeah that now is called Operation Red Wing which is a great organization and then I moved into through Steve Gatina I now kind of moved more over into the Beyond the Brotherhood. It's amazing Kenny's got a Kenny McElroy and this guy Tarl Yarber they do an event called Limitless that's in Phoenix this year. An awesome event if you want to go something it's over 2000 people there. There's no selling from the stages you know Kiosaki all those OGs go there you know what I mean they all speak you can meet them you can talk to them you know Robert F. Kennedy's been there with us before you know what I mean and spoke. Great it's a great you want to get in a room of great people it's cheap money. Let's do it to get in the room. But that's we did a fundraiser there you know for Beyond the Brotherhood just in one event you know we raised about 300 grand. So these Navy guys take you skydiving shooting guns tactical driving it's pretty rad you know what I mean baddest dudes in in the world those are the guys that are trying to get out and they give back and show you what they know but in return they're just looking for help to get into civilian life.
SPEAKER_01So is there a handle beyond the brotherhood or behind beyond the brotherhood. A brotherhood beyond beyond the brotherhood okay so I love it. Good plus I'm glad I asked yeah man amazing your friends the uh takeaways I mean so much here but find good mentors listen when the mentors are speaking when you're in rooms where you can learn put yourself aside that was one big thing I always keep hearing and then I love our troops uh I'm grateful for first responders that run towards danger instead of away from it uh as a father of two kids um it blows my mind the dads and and service members that are running in to save other families and and other people so thank you for your service and the people that protect our country and the people here um giving back to those organizations that are helping those guys as well and girls um love you all goaded mentality today uh was spoken through these mics grateful for it and grateful you being here we'll have to have you back on God is good God is good all the time Patrick Dearborn always says that I've dubbed that line from love over all things every day goaded we love you all God bless you please share like comment uh what you'd like to hear about next and we hope you have a great day thanks for having me
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