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Jesse James Season 2 Episode 21

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Jesse and Dee explore identity, mortality, and humanity's shared experiences, diving into philosophical territory with their signature humor and unexpected depth.

• Face tattoos and societal judgments - who can pull them off and why
• Jesse shares his co-hosting venture on "Two Queers in a Podcast" and his mentorship role
• Jerry Springer's emotional final thoughts on how "deep down, we are all alike"
• Dee's philosophy on skulls representing human equality beneath our exterior differences
• Santa Muerte, Day of the Dead, and cultural representations of death
• Angels, demons, and the hierarchies of the afterlife
• The potential for choice in one's spiritual destiny
• Finding meaning in both the mundane and metaphysical

Be good, be great, have fun, all that jazz. Check out our episodes every Wednesday and Saturday wherever you get your podcasts.


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Breather break

Speaker 1:

what's up, gremlins? Welcome back to another podcast. My name is jesse james. I hope everyone is doing it and doing it well. You know the drift heel. This is the mature mischief podcast ran out of air that's all he had in his lungs that's it. That's it. Yeah, it's like I don't know what the fuck I was gonna say real smooth Cliff ready to go, cliff ready to go, bonehead ready to go? How dare you, how dare you, how dare you? I know, I know, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2:

I love how you're responding to yourself.

Speaker 1:

You know what? Sometimes I can ask professional advice. Sometimes I have to ask professional advice.

Speaker 2:

You know it's okay if you talk to yourself. It's just not okay if you answer yourself.

Speaker 1:

No, I answer myself all the time time. That's how I get through life explains so much that's it for our podcast, goodnight we hope you enjoyed this episode.

Speaker 2:

We appreciate you of nothing just me going you get nothing. Good day sir good day, sir.

Speaker 1:

I know it. You know it, the whole world fucking knows it. I like saying my name twice. You get nothing. Good day, sir, you lose. Good day, sir. I know it. You know it, the whole world fucking knows it. I like saying my name twice.

Speaker 2:

I am your host Jesse James and I am your co-host, dee Dee.

Speaker 1:

Yo, sister Dee, what it do, you know what you know, what the previous recording.

Speaker 2:

you actually didn't say it. I didn't say nothing and you did it this time. Damn it, damn it, damn it. How come the other one's the one that got scrapped? Because we used up our energy on oh yeah, we did, that was weird it was weird, that was weird like I said, I think it threw it, threw it off for us.

Speaker 1:

It really did.

Speaker 2:

And then afterwards it's like okay.

Speaker 1:

It tanks really fast I don't know what it was, I don't know, I don't know, but you know what time it is though.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I do.

Speaker 1:

Show me your hands.

Speaker 2:

And show me your hands.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that one was weird.

Speaker 2:

That was weird. Sounds like those deep burps when you're drinking a cream soda. Oh no joke. Yeah, that's what it sounded like. It sounded like a cream soda burp.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, see, it's so, like when you have the same sound effect and you put it in here, even when you lower it, it's back down to where it's at, but when you have it all the way, it's so awesome so I was gonna say take it down a notch.

Speaker 2:

Take, take it down, take it down, take it down, take it down, take it down, take it down.

Speaker 1:

Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.

Speaker 2:

You're at a 10. I need you at a 2. I tell you all the time.

Speaker 1:

Fuck. No, my delirium is kicking in and bow dry, that's funny. It is.

Speaker 2:

Wonderful, I know Wonderful. This is when it gets good. It really does get good here when delirium joins the party.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. That's when it gets really good. You know it's going to be an awesome vogue-ish. Oh Mooshu, how you do baby doll. You're such a weird little dog.

Speaker 2:

No, he's not. He is, he is not, he's a cutie patootie. He just bites a lot. He does bite. That dog bites, I'm trying to tell you, hiie patootie.

Speaker 1:

He just bites a lot. He does bite.

Speaker 2:

That dog bites, I'm trying to tell you hi and pet you and you're like what Hi to you too.

Speaker 1:

That's how he says hello.

Speaker 2:

I know he punches you in. He's clocking you in.

Speaker 1:

Literally, I just did his nails a little bit, because they are getting rough.

Speaker 2:

Which is awesome now.

Speaker 1:

Yes, it's cool because I bought this new nail trimmer it's called. I don't know what the fuck it's called.

Speaker 2:

Lopsic.

Speaker 1:

Lopsic, it's so cool.

Speaker 2:

Lopsic S5 Pro.

Speaker 1:

I love the color. It's really cute. It is S5 Pro. It has two lights on it. They're not sponsored by the color. It's really cute. It is it's 5 Pro. It has two lights on it. They're not sponsored, by the way. It's just something I want to talk about because it's actually pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Wow, that sounds crazy.

Speaker 1:

That is so sweet Damn. Did that make your brain go a little crazy? Because it did for us.

Speaker 2:

It made my brain sparkle. It did.

Speaker 1:

Sounds like my vibrator. What the range?

Speaker 2:

Tigger's next.

Speaker 1:

Yes, fucking. Yes, yes, ooh, he did that to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, remember the other day when he scratched.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, beautiful. No, I already have did that to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, remember the other day when he scratched oh man, beautiful.

Speaker 1:

No, I already have a freaking scar there, dude, is this from the old one?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Oh.

Speaker 2:

I honestly don't remember where that one was from.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, yeah, you probably got stabbed once and don't remember Right. In the arm Just that's what I tell people when they ask you about my scar on my face, like what happens? I got? In a fight you got into a fight.

Speaker 2:

You see the other person went all crazy, but you know, just just shanked her I have my claws on she's good fucking bitch. Turn to the next man say what's her face claw attack oh god it's so stupid I think for the longest time I was playing I was I mean, I looked crazy, but with friends and family I was like. You want to know how I got these scars great joker, I couldn't help myself, dude what happened, I was like, oh, you want to know, I got these scars.

Speaker 1:

they're're like really, but you know what you got to make some type of humor out of it.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, I'm like bro, my face is destroyed. Let me have this.

Speaker 1:

You know, I should put a tattoo on there.

Speaker 2:

No, hell to the no.

Speaker 1:

If I ever get a face tattoo, convince me to make sure I don't do it ever.

Speaker 2:

Period if I ever get a face tattoo. You already got it and you want me to convince you to not, like you already have it on you. How am I supposed to convince you?

Speaker 1:

because if I ever go, I'm gonna go get a tattoo. Hold on, I'm going with you. Oh, I'm gonna be like, okay, cool, like so what do you want today?

Speaker 2:

it's like I'm thinking of something on my face. You are not no, you're not he wants a tattoo anywhere except for his face not the face not the face can I just put damage on my eyebrow I? Mean you can, but you can't go to javier, he won't do your face no, nope, that's interesting and I love that. Yeah, I love that about him yeah he will not do your face wow that was all oh, kudos yeah, no shade, no hate, just, he's just like it's not.

Speaker 1:

It's not my thing, nope, you know I. You know who really surprised me? It was aaron carter when he did his face tattoo he did a face tattoo.

Speaker 2:

He was.

Speaker 1:

He was bad. It was bad. Usually they are. It was like his whole cheek or whatnot.

Speaker 2:

I was just like like even if they're pretty or cute or they have like good placement, like Some people can pull them off. They can.

Speaker 1:

Some people can and some people can't, I know one person.

Speaker 2:

One person, I think. She's got a flower on one side and then maybe like a lotus on the other and she's got the tribal lines on her.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that's actually pretty cool.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so, but it fits her.

Speaker 1:

There was another one. Who was it? Um, I think he. I think he killed himself. If I'm not mistaken it was on the lady gaga one. He had the whole skull and everything. Yeah, he was the only one that can actually like. It was really fucking cool like crazy it was crazy, but uh, his story was just like poor thing, poor thing, just like. Well, I mean, it happens, poor guy, rest, rest, in peace. Um, oh god, it got dark so fast uh, where were you going with that? I don't know, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I was trying to do something like take it easy oh, it's supposed to be shenanigans bish supposed to be, but and you went dark I did. I did not on purpose, not on purpose, um, but you know, it's um good night, y'all if you ask for a tattoo on your face, I'm gonna tell him he meant his back face. That's what he meant. You want it on the side of his cheek. You know what cheek?

Speaker 1:

I think the ones behind my ear that that's the closest I'm ever going to get to being up that high. I don't think I would go any higher than that.

Speaker 1:

I don't think so, I don't know. The neck probably not, just everything from the shoulder down I would definitely keep. I don't know. I still want an ass tattoo. I just don't know what kind of ass tattoo I want. I really I said I wanted to put some lips, put like a lip on my ass and then just kiss my ass. But I want to do my own lips and then just you want to kiss your own ass kiss my ass.

Speaker 2:

But you want to kiss your own ass, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Everyone's always kissing my ass. He might as well always kissing my ass. It was either that or the Rocky Horror lips.

Speaker 2:

That would look weird.

Speaker 1:

Would it really?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, because it's not kiss, it's not in a kissing shape.

Speaker 1:

I know it's that biting sexual lip, I'm just saying I mean, I guess it could.

Speaker 2:

I'm just like hmm, I mean I guess it could.

Speaker 1:

I'm like hey, kiss me, hey, hey, well, as long as I don't do the star Everyone has a star Like the star that you have here.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Like everyone, has a star on their ass.

Speaker 2:

Why a star on their ass? I have no idea. That's weird star that you have here, yeah like everyone has a star on their ass.

Speaker 1:

Why a star on their ass? I have no idea. It's weird. Well, technically, I think the star represents something in the lgbt community.

Speaker 2:

I just don't know what it means, yeah, it's really weird nautical star.

Speaker 1:

So okay, okay, it's so weird because everyone has a star tattoo. I'm just like who hurt you? Everyone who hurt you? Everyone who hurt you? Why the star, ted? I don't know. I thought it was really cool, really, was it, though? Was it you were going through it, weren't you I?

Speaker 2:

need this finished.

Speaker 1:

Your chess piece.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, it's supposed to connect.

Speaker 1:

It's supposed to connect.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm To the ones on my shoulders. Fucking transformer that's funny that you brought that up. That is funny that you brought that up why, because that's what james had right here and right here transformers, yeah, transform.

Speaker 1:

That's fucking hilarious. He had the autobots.

Speaker 2:

On one side he had the Decepticons. That's hilarious.

Speaker 3:

And your junk's, your Autobot.

Speaker 2:

Roll out, dear Lord.

Speaker 1:

You beat me to the punch bitch.

Speaker 2:

Blasphemy, blasphemy, blasphemy. How dare you?

Speaker 1:

oh my god, that's fucking awesome dude. You know it's. It's like I want to get more tattoos. I just don't know what I want anymore, because it's like I want nerdy shit. But I also don't want nerdy shit why? Because it's like get your shit. I know, I know well. The only reason I'm saying that's because I know there's going to be videos out of us here soon and just trying to plan everything right, and the main thing that I'm always having issues with when it comes to these tattoos is that they're copyrighted material and I don't want to be like okay, you're gonna have to cover it up or we're gonna have to sue you or give us.

Speaker 2:

It's just weird to me it is.

Speaker 1:

It is so weird but the one I don't want to get fucked with is the hat with the mouse the mouse is. I don't I don't want to get fucked with is the hat with the mouse the mouse is. I don't want to mess with him because that's what that's pretty much is. It's right from that. And you don't need to be fucking with that. You know so, but yeah, so how's your day?

Speaker 2:

No, sir, Actually my day was fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Was it? I know you were working on a few projects or a couple of shoes or something like that, yeah, so what's going on with that?

Speaker 2:

I've got a pair of commissioned shoes. Oh, right after that there's no time frame, which is awesome, it's no pressure. But right after that I'm supposed to put together the next painting for the couple that I did the Mars Attacks painting for. Oh.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to do a Fifth Element one, this time Nice. And I'm just like oh, I'm looking forward to it because Fifth Element is one of my favorite movies.

Speaker 1:

I love, the Fifth Element Favorite movies.

Speaker 2:

I actually have a three panel canvas that James bought me on my last birthday before he passed away that I was supposed to paint plava laguna on. It's still there, it's still in the plastic is it's waiting for me to put plava laguna on it from fifth element, because I was looking for a three-piece set, because I wanted to paint her so bad oh, wow, so he found.

Speaker 2:

When he's like, perfect for that, for the plava that you want, I was like you're right, he's like you want it and I'm like for real. He's like, yeah, buy it for your birthday. I'm like yes so it's, there it's waiting, it's waiting, it's waiting for you. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So when the couple was just like oh we want you to do a fifth element painting and I was like I'm sorry, what you're like really seriously, for real. Oh my god, yeah, she's like I could have sworn. You said that you like fifth element. She goes. So I told my girl like oh, she's gonna love that. And I was like, yeah, you have no idea it's my fucking jam dude, yes, dude, no.

Speaker 1:

Um, I'm kind of working on a couple of things here too as well, so a lot of people are. So I don't know if anybody knows already a couple of things here too as well, so a lot of people are. So I don't know if anybody knows already. Uh, styler and I already have our podcast out two queers in a podcast, uh, which is fucking hilarious two queers awesome oh, it's called a two queer podcast.

Speaker 1:

That's what it's called. Uh, we did our first episode already, and which was really fun. I did the description on it already, for it didn't. I was not going to pay for the ai just yet or whatnot, though, but I did the description on it already, for it didn't. I was not going to pay for the ai just yet or whatnot, though, but I ended up paying for it and it was. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1:

He, he was nervous because, like I said, it was his first podcast. We were still rolling. He had a description and everything. I kind of. Uh, I took some of the parts of his description and rewrote it. Uh, he's reminds me a little bit of you, because he's like, I don't know what to write about myself. I'm just like and this is why we have AI, so let's see what AI can come up with you. So I just took whatever he wrote, plugged it in and said I need a bio for myself. So, basically, it wrote everything down. I'm like, there you go, bam. So copy paste, put it there, did the logo back Not the logo More of the banner or arts or what would you call it Flyer? No, not a flyer? Is it a logo?

Speaker 2:

It would be a logo, a logo.

Speaker 1:

I created the logo, super easy, super simple, super easy, super simple. And, um, since I'm a big I'm not a big, huge pokemon fan, but I took the uh, gender, uh symbols and I put them everywhere so they look like the unknown pokemon. So they are just everywhere. So it looked really fucking cool and I liked it. And I just got the gay one, the two men ones, and I just put it right by side by side. It said what's your color? He picked his color, I picked my color, purple, of course, and bam, just put it there and, uh, it was super easy to do. Uh, I just I was just like just trying to fucking mess with it and was picking my brain out of it. I'm just like, okay, what am I gonna do? So we just kind of did it all the way through.

Speaker 1:

Uh, he was, uh, who we were testing the mic and I'm sorry, styler, I'm calling you out. Uh, I go test one, two, three, testing one, two, one, two, one, two. And I go, sailor, your turn. Huh, uh, hello, test, like sailor. We're testing the microphone so I can hear you making sure it's coming out perfectly. It was just so funny and I told him I was like well, we're gonna call it the two queer podcast. I was like the only reason because I'm gonna be your co-host and this is your baby. So if anything, if it becomes bigger and say that you wanted to have someone else work on the podcast, or if something becomes really big for you or whatnot, and you can always have someone always cover that because it's two queers in a podcast, right? So just make sure someone else is gay with you and you can connect with them pretty fucking well.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, uh, so he was trying to do his first recording, uh, to be able to do it. Uh, he was nervous, of course, and whatnot. He goes how does how do you and didi do? I was like, well, I was like let me rephrase that because didi was actually very nervous in the very first episode of our podcast and I had to go back and listen to it again because I'm like man, something's missing. What was it? I was like it wasn't the intro. We didn't do an intro in the very beginning. I was like, oh, let me go back and re-listen to bitch, I go back and listen to our podcast, wow I told you the sound quality on it.

Speaker 1:

It was good.

Speaker 2:

It was good for what it was worth it was just a little bit different on there, but because we, you had older equipment anyway, so of course, yeah, it was older equipment but the quality was still.

Speaker 1:

It was there, it was just. It was just so funny to hear because I'm listening to you and how nervous you are right, and I was like, so you can kind of hear the quality of the podcast and whatnot. So this is kind of like where you're at on this. So once you have it all set and done and set in stone, so now you have something to kind of work forward to. So we kind of threw it up there. I think I put of us on all the platforms, so go check it out. So two queer podcasts we're on all fucking platforms, just like the mature mischief podcast. So if you get a chance, go listen to them. Already. I literally just put that up no more than five minutes and we already had like 10 downloads nice yeah, I was like holy shit, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 1:

So we had, uh, 10 downloads already and, uh, it was actually a lot of fun. I took control over the podcast. At first I said I'm your co-host, jesse james. I'm going to introduce you to one of the founders of two queers of the podcast. He's a very, uh, great guy. Uh, blah, blah, blah. I forgot what the fuck I said. Um, so we did it the whole. We did the whole thing and whatnot, and whatnot, and we were kind of talking about it and we were kind of doing it. So his first name is Styler and his last name is Honeycutt, honeycutt. So I joked and said now you're Honeycutt, I'll say Mr Honeycutt, how are you? He's like Auntie Jessie James.

Speaker 3:

I'm like ooh, oh, I actually like that.

Speaker 1:

So honey, cunt is his, now it's gonna be. Now it's gonna fucking he goes. You did it with sister d. I might as well just fucking did it. I was like he goes, I go, yeah, but dd hates it with a passion. I go, she goes, I know she does, I know she does.

Speaker 1:

That's like I don't do it maliciously. I told him it's like it's to be funny and whatnot. But I, I do like that it's honey cunt. Uh, for some fucking reason, because you're so fucking cunty and it's and it's, it's giving and it's giving, and it's fucking so honey that's awesome I go, you know what I go.

Speaker 1:

You don't even have to use your first name, honey cunt, that's it just. Honey cunt, just that's all. It is like I'm your host, honey cunts, serving you cunty all day, every day, I love that, I love that, I love that so styler, you drop your first name. Do honey cunt that's gonna be fucking hilarious I am your host honey cunt.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I fucking love it. Uh, auntie jesse james, I think we even uh, we we've touched a few subjects too as well like talking about, like we may get political in in that podcast. So he's not. He's not shy to talk about it, though, but just like what I did with you, what I did with him, he started to get more comfortable I said, okay, cool, um, I told him I was like, um, I don't know if I got a chance.

Speaker 1:

So if you listen to this podcast, taylor, um, if you want me to take it, take control as the coho, as the host, I will, just so you can kind of get a feel of what we're doing, and then you'll have your own saying and everything that would pretty much come with it. I have a few that I want to work with, that I'm not too sure yet. I have some of it written down. I gotta figure it out. So it's just, it's two queers. I gotta remember that the s at queers two queers. So our intro is like hey, fruitcakes, cute yeah, I love that.

Speaker 1:

Hey, fruitcakes, I love that uh, I, I think fruitcakes is great for all everybody. Um, I don't know if it'll resonate with a lot of the trans people, though, but uh, or anybody, but fucking fruitcake it is. I say fruitcakes because fruitcakes literally fucking has everything in it. Yeah, it has literally just pretty much all it is. Yep, it's just a cake, that's just a. Yep, let's throw that in there the fruitcake is all inclusive.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's all inclusive.

Speaker 1:

So, hey, fruitcakes um, I don't know how, how do we get?

Speaker 2:

is all-inclusive.

Speaker 1:

Don't come at me no, like I, even someone's like why gremlins? Like are you? I mean, can you even use it?

Speaker 2:

I'm like I'm not too sure we can use gremlins at the, but we took it out and added a y instead of an I in the name for gremlins I mean we're not calling them gremlins from anything, yeah, so it's just a gremlin is a gremlin yeah, so I just kind of gremlins. Gremlin is a creature, it's a creature, that's it but I think it's great because I love that.

Speaker 1:

The mature mischief is like we are very we're all alike, every single one of us is like, and and segue off to this saying that is that I literally was starting to watch jerry springer's final thoughts, dude, his final, final, final thought that he had on this last episode that he just did. Damn, that shit fucking hit hard. Yeah, like he's just like. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if someone has talent, it doesn't matter if someone has this or whatnot. We're all humans. I may dress nice, he may dress down, he may do it. It's about who you know, what you want to know or what. But yeah, this mother, I, I have to show it to you after the podcast. It's really fucking.

Speaker 3:

Actually, you know what I actually can play it here now for everybody, because I I honestly think it's probably one of the best um things ever, because I I was just so blown away by it and, uh, here it is. Did what? Come on out, we'll be right back. You practice that and you'll be hosting your own show no time. Oh, there is one other thing that brings success luck, lots of it, and surround yourself with smart, talented people who know a heck of a lot more about television than I do.

Speaker 3:

Look, I've been blessed through these 25 years to have people of enormous talent and drive producing a show of constant challenges which can't be saved day to day by simply booking a big name celebrity. You see, we don't have any on our show. No, just regular folks of no fame, little if any wealth and very little influence. Folks just taking a moment, which they rarely have ever get, to let the world know something about what they are thinking or feeling or doing. Admittedly, it's often crazy or outside the norm of accepted behavior, but what I've learned over our quarter century of shows is that now it's getting like really good.

Speaker 1:

It might be a little loud, so that's why I'm trying to keep it like a little bit whatnot, though, but he keeps going on, so it's like I'm just like I'm hearing it, I'm just, dude, stop. It's really really good Deep down we are all alike.

Speaker 3:

Some of us just dress better or had a better education or better luck in the gene pool of parents. I'll say it again, deep down, we are all the same. We all want to be happy. We cry when we're hurt, we're angry when we've been mistreated, and to be liked, accepted and respected, not to mention loved, is the greatest gift of all. Yes, we're all alike know this. There's never been a moment in the 25 years of doing this show that I ever thought I was better than the people who appear on our stage.

Speaker 1:

I'm not better, only lucky bitch, he broke down right there oh he broke down that last part. He goes I'm not better, I'm just lucky and I'm just like holy shit. So I'm, I'm literally listening to it, so I have we have like almost there. And so, yeah, he broke down crying like he like choked up right there on that part so thanks for the 25 years.

Speaker 3:

We've signed on to do a whole bunch more, and as long as I stay healthy, we will, and on that note, take care of yourself wow that's crazy you know what?

Speaker 2:

that's really funny that you brought that up. Um, I honestly don't remember when it was, uh, my love for my love for dia de los muertos and my love for just, I have a thing for skulls right I have a thing for skeletons, I have a thing I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I just I've always had a thing same anyways, my mom, I'm assuming she thought it was just this weird phase kind of thing and one day she's like what is with this? Anyways, like what is your obsession with all this? You know, I'm just like what, like obsession? She's like, yeah, like it's just weird. I'm just like why? And she was like why this? And I was like, because this represents every single person, like ever. And she's like what the hell does that even mean? I was like this is what we all look like on the inside. Everybody looks exactly the same dude.

Speaker 2:

Like how are you asking me, bro, like, because I don't see, because I don't see people's outsides, I'm like what Like? I was like it's. It's not this weird macabre obsession. Like I mean granted, I personally like the darks the dark stuff. You know what I mean, I've always have. But that aside, it was. I told her everybody looks like that on the inside. It doesn't matter what the outside looks like at all at all and yeah it just.

Speaker 2:

It's like yeah, yep, stay quiet, yeah same, I think it was it was the same thing for me.

Speaker 1:

I think this is why I found uh santa muerte so fascinating recently and I know that uh previous years or past, I've always saw her as something so evil and vile because of how people portrayed her to actually be. And when I got to deep dive more into her, a little bit more, and I actually getting to talk with her in my own dreams, like getting to like know her a bit, it it has been very uh phenomenal. Because it's misunderstood by who what she is. She is death and everybody is going to die or whatnot, no matter what it is. You know, she's appreciated by a lot of people who use her for good, and there's a lot of people who are like, if I do what you're asking for me in a bad way, there are going to be consequences for you in the long run. Like she doesn't mind doing those. She says that they're just consequences that come with it. Right, so it's like okay, I get it now, but a lot of it's just pretty much just kind of like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. But for me it was.

Speaker 1:

I did enjoy Delos and Amethyst and everything. I didn't get more of an understanding into it until, like the Book of Light, coco, all of those stuff, you kind of get more of an understanding and you kind of go dive more into it and you realize that day of the dead, the skeletons, us as human beings and how we died, that's what we pretty much look like. I've always did like the fashion of skulls and whatnot, and it's just so fascinating you know what I mean. Like it's just like wow, and every skull is different, not every skull is the same. And it's weird, because for you to say that too, it's just like yeah, that makes a lot of sense, you know, and I do like the dark.

Speaker 2:

It's funny because she had this face, this facial expression, like what is? This and I'm looking at her like, what kind of question is that actually, you know?

Speaker 1:

what I mean, this, and I'm looking at her like what kind of question is that? Actually you know what I mean. Like I think that's why I like angels and demons so much, because I love, like the um, uh, the vendettas that they have for each other. But I also have this thing where the demons are misunderstood, in a way of you know where they portray and how they stand and whatnot, because you do have some of your demons that are part of folklore and what they have. And then you have bad entities that are poltergeists and everything, that are like humans and whatnot, which they wouldn't be demons, they would just be ghosts or poltergeists. And you got the demons who are the ones that are doing the fighting, the war and all of that stuff that are part of the lineup, these so-called uncalled the fallen angels, if you will. Those are what the demons really are, it's just that. But they are a different type of. Why do I know all of this?

Speaker 2:

That's so weird, but there are different, because you're fascinated with it. That's why weird, but there are different, you're fascinated with it that's why, yeah, so it's so. It's like there's different hierarchies, but try explaining something that you receive, that you have no idea, yeah, where it came from, because that's how my shit works and I have no idea how to control it or turn it off, or it happens when it happens and I'm like but have you ever seen I?

Speaker 1:

I've always asked this right before bed. I want to see the war between angels and demons. That's one of the things I've always asked for when I go to sleep. If there is a battle, I would love to see that battle, and I've seen that battle so many times, and it fascinates me every single time. And it's not because it fascinates me, it's because you do see it where it's like. There a lot of it, a lot of the push and pull that each, each one of these that they're doing.

Speaker 1:

There are some things that demons are making sense or whatnot. That the reason why things are the way they are. And then you have the angels and doing what they're kind of. They kind of. They can be kind of fucking snooty at times you know what I mean and the demons can be also just as bad as they are, though, but they have different levels of it's kind of just like fucking humans, though. We have the ones that fucking understand, the ones that don't fucking understand or whatnot, whatever.

Speaker 1:

But that's what I kind of see every single time, that's what I feel every single time. I can't explain it, but it is possible for someone at a lower statue that is maybe a ghost poltergeist to reach the status of demon. If they were able if there was I forgot how it is like some type of um understanding or be able to forgive or whatnot. You can kind of pick and choose where you want, like we. We kind of joke like oh, we're all going to go to hell or whatnot, but in reality it always feels like you can kind of pick and choose what side you want to be on yeah I, I think that's how it is.

Speaker 1:

Even those who once who've done so bad, the ones who do so bad, for those there is a special place just for them in particular. But the ones that kind of like live their life, do everything by the book and have that dark sense of humor, it kind of just kind of like you can kind of pick and choose if you want to decide to go here or if you decide to go here, yeah, you know what I mean. But there is a place especially just for those who just do fucking heinous things to people and whatnot so can't explain it, but I know it, so don't know why it's so fucking weird.

Speaker 1:

I love it. It's stupid knowledge, but I love the knowledge.

Speaker 2:

It's not. It's not stupid, no.

Speaker 1:

But anywho, that's the end of our podcast. That's the shenanigans. Yeah, fun Good times. Hey, we talked about angels and demons that's fucking awesome and skulls and podcasts. So go check it out on there for you and see what you like, and see what it's all about.

Speaker 1:

I'm actually there are going to be a few things that we are going to be trying to work on here. I'm not sure we might have a podcast next week, and the only reason I say that is because there are a couple of things I do want to work on while we're on spring break and since I don't have class next week, I really kind of want to work on while we're on spring break and since I don't have class next week, I really kind of want to buckle down for the podcast just a little bit. But if we do have one, you'll definitely know it. It'll be up every Wednesday and every Saturday, so you know where to find us on there. So, um, yeah, we're gonna. I kind of I'm kind of excited cause I don't have any school, so I don't have to worry about anything, thank the god. But uh, with that being said, is there anything you have?

Speaker 1:

I got nothing, all right on. Do we meet again, dude. I love skeletor before we go. I god, every time I fucking find something from him, I'm just like what? Because it fucking makes sense.

Speaker 2:

You're just like wow wow, skeletor is not wrong he's not.

Speaker 1:

I like it where you see something. This is why I want to kill humanity.

Speaker 2:

I'd like I agree I.

Speaker 1:

I know why now I am your host, Jesse James.

Speaker 2:

And I am your co-host, Deedee.

Speaker 1:

Until we meet again on the Mature Mischief Podcast. Be good, be great, have fun, all that jazz. Love ya, bye Ciao.

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