Mature Mischief podcast
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Monkey Business: Two Hosts, No Filter
What happens when the character an entertainer portrays doesn't align with their authentic self? Jesse James and DeeDee tackle this thorny question in a wide-ranging conversation that moves from nostalgic commercial jingles to the uncomfortable territory of authenticity in entertainment.
The duo kicks off with a trip down memory lane, reminiscing about memorable commercials before launching into a hilarious dissection of pharmaceutical advertisements and their ridiculous side effects. Their natural chemistry shines through as they riff off each other, creating moments of genuine laughter that make you feel like you're hanging out with old friends.
Between the laughs, Jesse and DeeDee share exciting updates about the Mature Mischief Podcast. They reveal their new monkey-themed logo (because what's more mischievous than monkeys?), announce an expansion to four weekly episodes, and tease upcoming special guests, including an expert from the BDSM community. Their enthusiasm for growing the podcast while maintaining their authentic connection with listeners is palpable.
The conversation takes a more serious turn when Jesse expresses strong feelings about performers who present themselves as something they're not, particularly regarding sexuality and gender expression. This thoughtful exploration of "gay-baiting" and the ethics of playing characters raises important questions about the responsibility entertainers have to their audiences. Jesse's passion on the subject demonstrates why this podcast stands out – these hosts aren't afraid to get real.
Whether you're looking for laughs, thoughtful commentary, or just some mid-week company, this episode delivers a perfect blend of mature humor and authentic conversation. Subscribe to catch all four weekly episodes and join the Mature Mischief community as it continues to grow. Your Hump Day just got a whole lot more interesting!
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What's up, gremlins? Welcome back to another podcast. My name is Jesse James. I hope everyone is doing it and doing it well. You know the drill. This is the mature mischief podcast. I just like how that's become like a thing for us.
Speaker 2:I.
Speaker 1:Wonder, if I never did the uh, would that?
Speaker 2:feel weird yes, I'm gonna question like what's?
Speaker 3:my first question what's wrong, what is?
Speaker 1:wrong with you? Yes, absolutely happy hump day everybody, it's hump day. I miss those nostalgia commercials. I really do. It's something about them that Same.
Speaker 3:Those were funny.
Speaker 1:Oh, I miss it. What was your favorite nostalgia commercial? Do you remember the baby in the walker? And it was that really fast song and they would.
Speaker 3:And he's going all over the house and everything. I don't know what the commercial was on, but yes, I remember Because I remember they put it on Hocus Pocus.
Speaker 1:It's when they're like it's the devil a master.
Speaker 2:That's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's right. I don't know the commercial either, though, but that one was always my favorite tune to always hear, just like oh, and it was stupid Because it was one of those orchestrated songs and everything and whatnot, so it was always something that was so, so fun to actually see. So I don't know, that's just something I miss, actually miss. What about you?
Speaker 3:I don't know this. There's too many, but now that you bring up the conversation, my head's like poof that's always a thing between us always, every time you ask me a question, everything just goes straight out the window.
Speaker 1:Yep, I know it, you know it, the whole world fucking knows it. I like saying my name twice. I am your host, jesse james and I am your co-host dd yo dd what it do, sister d welcome to hump day hump day, hump day.
Speaker 3:Yo what it do, bitch I always like that goofy cow on the back. It was always hump day hump day.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know, it's just um, it's just one of those things that I I just enjoy a good commercial, and now the commercials are all about medicine. It's big pharma. Big pharma is taking over the med commercial. I haven't seen a really good commercial, other than the Super Bowl commercials that they actually have, which is really crazy.
Speaker 3:It's all about the medical commercials Pushing a product that's going to give you more medical problems to require more product, Like bro.
Speaker 1:I love the side effects in those fucking commercials. It's just so fucking hilarious. I'm like what's the point of?
Speaker 3:taking it then.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm going to take it for one thing and get 10 other things.
Speaker 1:Side effects may cause you diarrhea, headaches, a slight itching of the butt, a rash or whatnot. If you see any bumps or lumps on it, go see a doctor. Oh and, by the way, if you're bleeding out of your rectum, that's all good signs.
Speaker 3:What did Cat Williams say? Oily discharge. I'm like I'm sorry, what Oily discharge.
Speaker 1:No shit, dude, sorry, what oily discharge? No shit, dude, I, I just think it's just so funny because these commercials are just so outlandish, they're very, and I I like them don't get me wrong, because I mean, come on, they even have commercials for herpes. This is so fucking hilarious. Don't let your partner know you have herpes. Wink, wink. You're like what, what?
Speaker 3:Yo wait, I'm sorry, Don't let them. No, no, no Let them. Please, please. What do you mean? Why are we keeping this a secret? Do not.
Speaker 1:Don't let them know you have the herpes. The herpes, the blurps, the blimps, the blurps, the blimps, herpes are just reverse cottage cheese just shown, ew.
Speaker 3:No, you did not paint a freaking visual, ew, moving on moving on because what kind of what kind of topic is this?
Speaker 1:for the middle of the week?
Speaker 3:I have no idea what kind of week have you had?
Speaker 1:you know what? I had a really great productive fucking week so I'm okay with that.
Speaker 3:What's with the herpes?
Speaker 1:I don't know. If I fucking knew, I would tell you what the herpes were all about, though, but it was just fucking hilarious to say, because it's me because you got herpes on the brain herpes on the brain.
Speaker 2:That's just weird, that just sounds weird can you imagine the jingle? Do you have herpes? Take some valdrum, can you?
Speaker 1:imagine, dude, can you imagine they took that from me and just be like that was the jingle for it? If you have it, if you got the itch, take a little famous pill.
Speaker 3:If every commercial was a song, that's what I was gonna say. Can you imagine if every commercial oh dude, I would fucking die doom, doom, doom, doom do do viagra?
Speaker 1:do you suffer with rectal dysfunction? You too can be happy with the boner. With the boner, don't worry if it lasts for more than four hours. That's the longest you'll ever last in sex. Dear lord, do you last for two minutes? Take a Viagra. Side effects may cause blurriness Because they're going to be singing it.
Speaker 3:They're singing the freaking side effects. Can you imagine?
Speaker 2:Side effects are blindness and blindness. You will go blind.
Speaker 3:You may suffer from an itchy booty. So if you touch yourself you'll go blind, but if you take a vibrate you'll go blind too.
Speaker 1:So I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't so I can jerk off and not see at the same time. So it'd be like someone else is like sucking my dick like make it make sense make it make sense.
Speaker 1:So if I want to cheat, I just go with my left. Got it, got it. Look, if you go blind, you'll never have to worry about what the other person looks like. That's horrible. It'll give you an excuse to fondle somebody. I gotta figure your face. Wow, nice rag. That's a tumor. Oh shit, from what? No, sir, faltrum, herpes, faltrum herpes.
Speaker 3:So you're not a woman'm a man oh hey, but you said looks, don't matter looks, don't matter, you're blind.
Speaker 1:You're john cena. You can't see me that's horrible.
Speaker 3:This is why you're going to hell oh shit because of the horrible shit you talk about you know what?
Speaker 1:I know, because we could go further with it. I just don't, I just don't want to, because I was being that, I was being sarcastic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this ain't shit you guys, I'm taking prayer to protect myself when it comes to Jesse going to hell. This is nothing, Uh-uh Nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean, look, there's some good pills out there that you can probably take. I don't know Ecstasy. I don't know That'll get you going. I'm like well, what is he doing? I don't know. He's in the corner twicking his nipples.
Speaker 3:He is having the time of his life. Leave him alone.
Speaker 1:Leave him alone, I am having a time of my life right now, dude. We've already been doing this for almost a year already. It's been an amazing roller coaster ride. It's it's one that I don't want to get off on ever period, because it's uh agree as boo thing once said to us, or as he said to me.
Speaker 1:I don't know if I should take it as an insult or whatnot, but I'm not, because you know I'm I'm the bigger, big back and I can take a good throw punch. It's so much better when you have a second person on there, so it doesn't feel so. I'm verbatim here, so I don't know. Touche, yeah, he, just, he basically punched me in the dick and I liked it. I don't know Touche, yeah, he, just he basically punched me in the dick and I liked it, of course you did.
Speaker 1:I was like be more meaner to me please.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Oh my God, he's a glutton for punishment, you should know that?
Speaker 1:Yes, I know I'm a filthy whore, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 3:So basically he said you suck on your own.
Speaker 1:Basically, thank you. So basically, you said you suck on your own. Uh, basically, uh, you know what? That's actually kind of fair, because it's kind of hard doing podcasts by yourself. Some people actually have the talent to be able to do it. I, I have the talent to do it. It's just very hard because I can ramble. I can fucking ramble. You know what I mean? It wouldn't even make any sense at all whatsoever. I think I did it with. I think I did it once without you, when you were not here, because I needed to get a podcast up. I forgot what it was. It was great, but it was a ramble. It was a ramble. You can't do the jingle by yourself. This is the mature mischief podcast and I can't go. Sister D, what up what I do, baby girl, I can't do it. Who am I doing that with? The ghost? I know.
Speaker 3:Casper, the ghost of me what do you do, casper?
Speaker 1:are you doing sister C?
Speaker 3:you just put my, my stupid picture, my stupid article on the chair.
Speaker 1:So I know we've we've rambled on for a good 10 minutes without having a good topic for a wednesday, because this is not a shenanigans podcast it's the middle of the week, it's the middle of the year.
Speaker 3:Yes, we're having a good time. You guys need a break. We all need a break.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know it's one of those days. If you actually have a wednesday off during hump day during the middle of the week, which doesn't make any sense, I don't know why Wednesday is a hump day, because there's seven days in the week. Why is Wednesday in the middle? I don't know, but I genuinely do like a good.
Speaker 3:Wednesday, because it's the fourth day.
Speaker 1:Is it the fourth day?
Speaker 3:After the Sunday, monday, tuesday, and then it's the fourth day, and then you have Friday.
Speaker 1:Thursday, friday, saturday. Why do I start Monday? It's always like Monday, tuesday.
Speaker 3:Wednesday, because you always start it with a Monday.
Speaker 1:I always start it with a Monday.
Speaker 3:Technically, the week begins on a Sunday, does it?
Speaker 1:really Doesn't it. Who made the fucking rule that it starts on a Sunday? Why does it not kind of start Tuesday? Why not a Wednesday? Why not a Thursday?
Speaker 3:Because it starts on a Sunday.
Speaker 1:I don't know. My work week starts on a Friday, so my Fridays aren't my Monday.
Speaker 3:Well, that sucks to be you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does, because I literally get Tuesday, wednesday, thursday off. I got those four bad teams.
Speaker 3:The middle of the week is your weekend.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, the middle of the week is my weekend.
Speaker 3:Yeah damn. I'm like well, no, no damn.
Speaker 1:You know, this is like the middle of the week for me, because I can literally just kind of like chill out and relax a bit. So it's definitely something I do like and I definitely enjoy my middle of the week, like Tuesday, wednesday, thursday, that week off and then just having to work four days. It's actually good. However, it is a long, long shift. I don't mind it so much. It's just after a while, when you get towards the end, it starts to like come on, finish up, come on be over with.
Speaker 3:You know I've not had many jobs but I've learned quickly through just a few that I've had. I know this is going to sound so like okay girl, but I don't feel like I made for regular jobs.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 3:I never have. I can't function. Not that they're bad, they weren't bad jobs. It's just like I'm'm, like I can't work, like this is not how I function and process shit, like no, I can't do this. You're the maid I can't not funny not funny. You're the cleaning lady I am not the help anymore. Okay, like I said, anymore anymore.
Speaker 1:That is horrible, not the help dude, my hair is getting so fucking long, like it really is. I'm just like, oh, you know what. I'm actually really excited because, uh, a couple of things here uh, for the podcast and it is changing. Um, and what I mean by change I don't mean we've already put up the new uh logo. Uh, thank you, td for helping me out, and styler too as well.
Speaker 1:It has been a phenomenal journey making that uh, us three coming together collaborating, oh, and boo thing too. I can't forget about him too as well. Uh, I send it to him. I mean, he was just like why monkeys and um, I told him I was like because they're mischievous, the mischievous, youievous. You know what I mean. And I think we have also sat down and we talked about the podcast a little bit more and we kind of went into depth with the podcast and trying to figure out a lot of the things with it. You know, and it's been a great learning curve from a lot of people to get you know, your friends to get involved, who listen to it, and help us out.
Speaker 3:I appreciated it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I appreciate it so much, because who do we ask? Uh, first it was, it was, it was styler, then it was you right, and I was like, oh, you know who will give us a good answer. I was like, let me ask, boo thing, I'm not trying to knock it, because it did sound like I was knocking uh, the idea that was presented. I'm just like I'm not knocking the idea that you and styler gave. I was like I, I want to get one more person's opinion you know, none taken.
Speaker 3:Yeah, especially after after he gave all the advice that he I'm like that was freaking awesome yeah, he did.
Speaker 1:The blue thing did give us a lot of uh uh information on the podcast of what he was listening. Give us a little bit more inside ideas a lot of ideas and we are taking all his ideas and running with it and we're creating, uh, new things to come down the line thank you, sir yeah, so thank you, blue thing. I appreciate it. So so much I I can't think of enough for it, man he's been.
Speaker 1:He's been like a really strong supporter, not just listening to it, but as a really good friend too as well. So that's awesome um, he's just, he's fucking hilarious half the time. I'm just like bro, like uh he gets you, he completes you he really does. We're both. You put us both together, that's two big assholes in the fucking household. Like you think I'm an asshole, why is he not?
Speaker 3:a special guest huh why is he not a special guest?
Speaker 1:how many times we had him here. He was being a little bitch. I'll call him out for it. He was being a little bitch unless he had a fucking drink in his hand. That's the only way he's gonna come on this fucking have a drink, he's gonna need a few be a guest dude, be a guest be our guest, be our guest, be our guest.
Speaker 1:He doesn't want to Like. I tried getting him Because remember he was sitting right there like in the fucking corner, like a little bitch, and I'm just like bro, get Bro, I'm going in on you so bad.
Speaker 3:He's just like okay, let's see if I'll be the supporter now you want to talk shit you want to talk shit, you lose a following.
Speaker 1:He's it's he's, he's too busy he'll.
Speaker 3:He'll have to listen to it down the line somewhere, and I don't know I was gonna say I don't know where, you're just gonna get shit, you're what is going on yeah, I finally heard that episode like oh oh, that episode, episode just remember, I do this out of love the hump day episode the hump day episode.
Speaker 1:You know it's. I I do enjoy it thoroughly because I mean, I know my, I know my og friends don't listen to the podcast. I know that one of my ogs, uh wife, listens to the podcast. I know she does because she's actually told me before that she listens to it and uh, whatnot. So I'm pretty sure she's like dude, that's kind of wild, you know. But um, it's not for everybody. But I do?
Speaker 1:I mean it's. I've do see a lot of the change and a lot of growth that we've actually done together, uh. So, down the works. Uh, here's what's coming into the works woodworks for, uh, the mature mischief podcast. As you can tell, you've already saw the new logo that uh dd has humbly created for us, and we've helped out. Then we created it together, and uh hubby jumped in to help us out a little bit too as well, so that's actually been a phenomenal too as well. I don't know what you did with the banner logo, but dude, it's I don't know what is with, because it's just like the light like the neon lights emits.
Speaker 2:It's uh, really really cool yeah, it's really cool.
Speaker 1:I really like it. It's been, it's a, it's a phenomenal thing to actually see uh to do it, and I guess that blue thing was like why two monkeys and they were very mature mischief, uh, I think I also relate gremlins to monkeys because they can be little gremlins. They get into a little every littlelins to monkeys because they can be little gremlins. They get into every little thing.
Speaker 3:Because they're just little troublemaking animals. Yeah, they really are.
Speaker 1:I mean, you see them online. They're very mischievous, they're very hard-hitting.
Speaker 3:They're cute and funny, but they get into trouble.
Speaker 1:A lot, a lot, and I think adults are just the same way too as well, when it comes down to it. A lot, and I think adults are just the same way too as well, when it comes down to it. Um, I think there's, it was just stupid monkey. Uh, that's just something. That's something on there and I think one of the things I was actually talking about because, like you don't think it's a, you're being a little insensitive with the monkey thing. I'm just like what do you mean? I haven't. I was like what are you talking about? They're like well, because you know, if maybe in culture improper, it inappropriate, I'm like are you going to left field with it? I was like, bro, like that's not even in. That wasn't even the brain. Yeah, no, like that's. I'm like come on, I'm a fucking, I'm a gorilla myself. Like, god damn, I take off my shirt and I look like a fucking man.
Speaker 1:God damn, like you meant literally and figuratively yeah, literally just he's an animal that actually hurt, did you know? That gorilla did you know that when gorillas hit their chest, each gorilla has a different sound? No, yeah, crazy it is they have a different sound when they hit their chest.
Speaker 3:I did not know that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's so funny, but when they do it, there's a different noise for them.
Speaker 3:That's cool.
Speaker 1:It's awesome. I don't know what it is, but it's kind of like different drums they beat to their own rhythm with their own drums when they hit it. But they have a different sound. They make their own beat yeah, so it's really cool.
Speaker 3:Nice, it's really cool. Didn't know that.
Speaker 1:I did not know that either.
Speaker 3:Thanks for the fun facts.
Speaker 1:D-Man yeah, you're welcome.
Speaker 3:You're welcome.
Speaker 1:My clip, my little wagtail. Speaking of wagtails, my hair is getting longer.
Speaker 3:It is.
Speaker 1:It is, and I'm hoping you can cut it before we leave, because I really fucking need it Like tonight Tonight.
Speaker 1:Okay, we're going to do a few recordings, but we'll get it done. I just want to get it done tonight. We don't have to shave it. I just want to. If you're not afraid, yeah, that. But I just want to if. If you're not afraid, yeah, that's fine. Um, but, uh, it's been, uh, yeah, it's been a good, it's been great. We've been working on it. A discord it's coming, uh soon. We should have it out by next week.
Speaker 1:We are still working on the uh, trying to get the what, what we want, because expect three episodes a week yeah we're gonna have monday, wednesday and freaky fridays actually four because of shenanigans yeah, so shenanigans is going nowhere, no so we're gonna, we're gonna push out four podcasts a week, like so mondays, wednesdays, fridays and saturdays. So if you're not, tired of us.
Speaker 3:Yet I'm just kidding, you're gonna be, you're gonna be exactly, but it's uh.
Speaker 1:I think it's been a most uh, not an emotional roller coaster. It's been a very fun roller coaster ride, um doing this with you. You know so for sure. I couldn't. I couldn't imagine doing it with anybody else besides Jamie, but she's not here. She's in Austin now. Yay for Jamie. She could have been on the podcast and it could have been us three, the trio.
Speaker 3:But no, okay, why are you salty?
Speaker 1:I am very salty. Let her be she's doing awesome, I guess, wow.
Speaker 3:Well, I love you, Jamie.
Speaker 1:We love you, Jamie.
Speaker 3:And you can't say it now they can.
Speaker 1:You can't say it after being salty, so I can be fucking salty if I want yeah, you can be salty. Yeah, she can't say she's the only person I would have sex with if she let me.
Speaker 3:We were horny for each other just get a room we've tried she's like why are you putting my business all out there?
Speaker 1:exactly oh man, you know how do you feel about hump day, like what? What gives you through the like when you, when it's? You know it's wednesday, there's a seven day work week, right I?
Speaker 3:guess it depends, because I've never actually had the average work week yeah, so it just depends on how I'm feeling for the day yeah it depends on what else is lined up around. If I've got something in the weekend, I'm kind of like, okay, it's coming, so I'll get. Like okay, I'll prepare myself. But if it was in the beginning of the week, I'll just be like, okay, cool, I have the rest of the freaking week yeah, awesome, because I don't know.
Speaker 1:There's people who who are their weekends like their weekends, are their weekends like right. They want a monday through friday job so they can party on weekends, recover. I get it. I wish I could have a Monday through Friday job, but I do love the schedule I have.
Speaker 3:I wish I just didn't have to have a job.
Speaker 1:I wish this could be your fucking job period.
Speaker 3:This would be the main thing. I just want to get paid, but I don't actually want to work.
Speaker 1:Can you imagine? This is like calling all sugar daddies, calling all sugar mamas, calling all sugar aunties, literally. But you know it's uh, it's one of those things where I just kind of I I love the dynamic and the duo of our podcast.
Speaker 2:I think it works. It works well.
Speaker 1:I agree, it works well, I know we talked about this before we got onto the podcast because we were talking about it right, because we were just like I don't want my ego to get the best of me when I'm doing good, because I've seen how people's egos can be just a little feeling or whatnot, you know. So here on the podcast, I'm saying it now, if my ego gets too big y'all heard him bring me down.
Speaker 3:He said it remind myself how humbling I was and am so later on, when y'all hear me talking shit to him, don't say nothing, don't get in it don't get in it, don't get in it, don't get in it there's reasons um but you know what?
Speaker 1:I think that's always the best thing to actually happen, because I do like when I'm, because sometimes I'm moving at 100 miles an hour and pay. You see me moving. I'm always getting direction. I'm always saying either thank you.
Speaker 3:If I forget to say thank you, please let me know type of rodeo or whatnot, because even if you don't say it, you show it yeah and I'm cool with either or you know what I? Mean not that I even expect it the fact that you do say it or show it it's nice, it's appreciated. Do you have to? No, because I love when we hang out and we do things and we get stuff done. You know what I mean. Is it nice to hear? Sure, but do I have to hear it?
Speaker 3:I think it's because I just get so into you get caught up in whatever I get caught up in them.
Speaker 1:But I become like this leader. I can say I need you to do this. Can you go ahead and do that? Let me go ahead and try to work on that, dd. You work on this, get this where it needs to be put, that where it needs to be. Um, but I'm also not going to wait at the last minute anymore. I'm just starting to kind of pack up everything that needs to be, just starting to kind of pack up everything that needs to be packed up and be put away. So there's just that. But, um, I've always, I've always been like that. I think I think working so much and being a leader in management and kind of learning along the way, uh, has has molded me a whole lot and I get that I actually had to drop out of school because I really trying to focus on moving, uh, trying to make more money, trying to make the podcast grow.
Speaker 1:so I am taking a big, big gamble on this. So I have, I've, I do feel on it, but I think that's with any adults, because when you're doing any type, when you're doing any type, when you're doing this, when you're doing a big life change. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's what's going on yeah?
Speaker 1:But it's. I think it's like that with anybody who's like man. What do I do? I don't want to like Risk it for the biscuit. You know what I mean, I mean. But there's a lot of influencers out there who do things and they make good on their stuff and they become very good and they finally quit their job so they can focus on being an influencer, if you will. I don't see myself being as a big influencer on the apps. Am I trying to get out there? Yes, I am. I am putting myself out there a little bit more. I am putting getting anything into it or whatnot, or whatever, but I'm not seeing myself as trying to figure out. Oh, what am I going to do to be an influence?
Speaker 1:right I just rather go live and without having to make fucking videos, because I can sit down and just like sew a pillow or whatnot and be like hey, if you like it, you want to buy.
Speaker 2:It's like 24 bucks you know, and I'll ship it out to you.
Speaker 1:Uh, send me your paypal and I'll send you the invoice. Uh, it's, uh, it's one of those things where it's just been. Uh, it's crazy, it's been, it's been moving. I don't know about you, but it feels like the podcast is moving pretty quickly yeah it really is I. We're not famous, we're not like logan parr, james charles or jeffree star, and I'm naming some of the really bad ones I was like yeah, we're not, then we're not, we're not like any of them that have like the influence, they can probably do this and have the mega followings already.
Speaker 1:We're literally we started from like we started from the bottom. We started working our way up pretty much. We're moving on up, moving on up, um, but it's like, uh, we're not. We're not the big influence, and I can only say those on the top of my head, because those are the ones that are the influences I know of that are really big, who have big followings yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, yeah, so it's kind of hard to, and I know there's more people out there though, but that's from my time period. So Right, our time period, unfortunately.
Speaker 3:My time period Right Just yours, just yours. I'm not going to include myself in that, oh come on, I'm not gonna include myself in that. Oh, come on, I'm kidding.
Speaker 2:You're fucking older than I am. That's why I said I'm kidding like really that's automatic dude, it's automatic.
Speaker 3:You know who they are exactly but you know, it's always.
Speaker 1:It's always funny to see and look back at your old self like how much you've either grown or it's. Either you've grown or you stayed the same consistently.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:For me. I feel like I've always been growing.
Speaker 1:And I think now, as an adult and we're going to have more subjects on it, like trying to make things work financially what happens when you fall on your face? What happens when you're back up? What do you do and how do you do it? It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. Do you do it? It's a. It's a lot of work, it's a lot of work, because there's so much is expected of us to do, not by society standards, but by our standards. You know what I mean? We have? Well, yeah, by society standards, yes, so, but I don't think it's a society standard, but like default.
Speaker 3:Not because you're wanting to follow, but because this is the way things need to be done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what I mean not for approval per se.
Speaker 3:Just this is how you survive in this country. Yeah, you know what I mean I think it's just it's.
Speaker 1:It's really great and fantastic to actually see a lot of uh people, uh, change, um, and you see a lot of people who have come a long way, who you're just like damn. But I also don't want to be those influencers either. That doesn't acknowledge their fans at all either oh yeah you know what I mean. I'm not trying to pretend who I am.
Speaker 3:I'm not trying to give any satisfaction we're not too good for nobody, yeah, no, we're not too good for nobody because you have people who are on twitter who are like, oh my God, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:I'm like that's good, that's awesome, but there are no interactions at all whatsoever. There's not like, a like, a like. You know who I used to watch, who I used to love a lot. He always got with his fans and he got into it and whatnot. He was off from the um, oh, the zombies. What is it? Um, the big show. That was the big hit.
Speaker 3:The walking dead.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the walking dead.
Speaker 3:Wow.
Speaker 1:Never seen it.
Speaker 3:I we're not going to. It's a cool. It's cool. We're not going to discuss. I've already discussed this. I hate fucking zombies. Crazy, I hate zombie movies. You guys would think that would be a Dolby Garage.
Speaker 1:I hate zombie movies. I hate zombie games.
Speaker 3:Boring. I'm just kidding, they are boring. No, not You're boring.
Speaker 2:I am boring.
Speaker 3:Fuck yeah, zombies are great. You're boring.
Speaker 1:Dude. I'm going to tell you why I hate zombies. I'm dude. I'm gonna tell you why I hate zombies.
Speaker 3:I'm here in a bit, but you're gonna have to wait for friday for that one. Um, zombies are awesome, go on.
Speaker 1:No friday, go on anywho, walking dead, uh, daniel newman, he was on the walking dead. He played, he was I don't know what season, but but Daniel Newman was one of them. Or is it Darryl Daniel? Darryl Daniel? But in here he came in. I was gay and he's a gay man, but he's, he was somebody that always was Interacted with his fans and whatnot.
Speaker 1:But you can see, some fans are just like I has happened, uh, where people were like, oh, we're giving away like five thousand dollars to lucky people or whatnot or whatever, and I tried and put some stuff on there to help out or whatnot, but nothing. I tried, yeah, um, I never got into it. I was just like I don't know if I can ask anybody who's a celebrity for even though they're giving it away. You know what I mean? It's just so weird to see people give way money to away from, to random people. I'm just like couldn't you just give it away to everybody who really fucking needs it? Like not saying much, like you can literally just do one million and just give people a thousand dollars each to like out of your pocket.
Speaker 3:Um, I'm just saying instead of a million to one person I know or about ten thousand dollars to one person.
Speaker 1:You're just like okay, but anywho, that's just a me on that subject. I don't know, I mean I can't say I do get it.
Speaker 3:I do get it when you see somebody in the initial stage of their fame or their stardom. Yes, they're very interactive, but because it's, it's not like this written requirement but it's kind of a requirement because, well, the more you engage, the more they're devoted to you as a loyal fan base. But at some point and I don't think majority of them are intentional, but at some point they're so busy they can't keep up with that, no more yeah they just can't.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean, so I don't think it's anything personal. It sucks for the fans. It sucks for the fans because they're like what happened? Right like dude, you were like all, you were with us and all of a sudden.
Speaker 1:It's just like okay, cool, I guess, bye you know, what I would do I and I would make it a habit is that I need, at least once a week with my fans, at least once a week, to be able to stay interactive with them and like, okay, I, I get one hour with my fans, I get to answer as many as questions as I possibly can. Very cool, very simple. But I think that's where boo thing was like do the discord and whatnot.
Speaker 3:I get.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get involved, yeah, Because you can uh address certain big group of people Because at some point, like I said, if you hit a certain level of fame or stardom, you can't. You're too busy. Guess what? You won't have that one hour. You know, if I become that busy, I don't know if I I would enjoy it and I would love it. I just don't see myself getting out there and just greeting fans who are waiting to see me and going, hey, what's up? Because sometimes a lot of it's still touch and go and you see, with movie stars yeah, because they've.
Speaker 1:They're on a time crunch, yeah they're on a time crunch, you know.
Speaker 3:Oh, you gotta get going, it's not intentional, it's not personal but it's just like you gotta do what you gotta do okay, it was kind of like the thing.
Speaker 1:Remember we were talking about how I went to go see dixon dallas and whatnot. One of my things is is like interaction, interaction with your fans. That's so hard right, and it's something I'm just like, I'm so into about, but I'm then again, I'm not the popular guy, I'm not the one that's creating the music, I'm not the one that's in the front lines of it, so I don't know what he's, having been in those shoes. I haven't been in those shoes yet to be able to understand that and, surprisingly, I haven't got any backlash on the whole fucking thing with the whole dixon dallas thing. But whatever, but I'm not in the uh, I don't have the say so to say you know, otherwise I can talk about it and how I feel, sure you know whatnot, because that's how I feel about it, like some of me.
Speaker 1:There's one tiktoker that I cannot stand because it made me mad and it made me feel a particular type of way for people who do, who pretend to be something they're not, and people are like, oh well, if actors can do it, how come an influence can do it? Because you're faking who you are. You just don't get to do that to somebody to be this flamboyant person, because, oh, flamboyancy makes conversations and people will like that and then, all of a sudden, they do a meet and greet with you and you're trying to act more masculine than before, like you, don't? You don't do that to people, because people who are very comfortable and there are bears like myself who are very comfortable and being the flamboyant, being the fairy being, you know, girl, do this, do that. That's just who we are, because we're very open, we're not scared to show our masculinity side. We're not. It's just we're comfortable in our own skin, right, right.
Speaker 1:I just don't approve of that. I just don't like it because those, those who are very, very feminine, who live their day day by day, people who were looking out to you, who were the feminine people and then you backstabbed them by turning their back to become more masculine, Was it backstabbing?
Speaker 3:because he never came forward and said oh, this is my job to be the flamboyant If he?
Speaker 1:had said- To portray this flamboyant image, he literally said he literally said he did it so he can get the views, so he can get what he needed, and he got what he wanted.
Speaker 3:And then the people when he confessed, basically embellishing himself pretty much.
Speaker 1:And then when he did confess about it and he did do it, he had people who were bigotry praising him about like, oh, I'm proud of you because people would do it. It's just a fucking front and this and that and the other. I'm just like interesting.
Speaker 1:I just don't like fake people. Yeah, I really don't either. Look, we live in a stereotype area for a lot of us here. You know we're just trying to get by and get through it, or what now? But I'm not going to bore you with all of it right now because we uh, two queer podcasts. Go listen to that. I'm on that one, I'm the co-host. We talked about the community already, so that. Go and listen to that. That should already be up already by now on that. So it's just that it's just so annoying I can't. You know what I mean. It's just like, how are you?
Speaker 3:I guess it depends. I won't say names or whatever, not that it matters, but there is a particular rapper.
Speaker 2:Uh-huh.
Speaker 3:And that rapper has said that they their character and they said the character is a job right are they like that in real life? Not really. No, I get and they got their. No, I get the.
Speaker 1:I get the character if you come out and say this is my character and this is who I am. So, for instance, if I come out and if I'm saying, if I do this, if I say I'm just a hoe to be a hoe, and then all of a sudden, I've never been a hoe my entire life, it's just a character that I've been playing this entire time. It's a hoe to be a hoe and then, all of a sudden, I've never been a hoe my entire life. It's just a character that I've been playing this entire time.
Speaker 3:It's a job.
Speaker 1:It's a job, yeah Right, but if I just am who I am, just being who I am and having fun, but being authentic to myself, it's who I am. People forget that when you're trying to portray a character and people buy into the character and they think you are that character even out of it. You're selling something that's not true, true.
Speaker 3:Did you say that? Did you say this is a character?
Speaker 1:and that's the thing. If you've never said or established that it was a character to begin with, then you are not, and this individual who did that did not establish that at all whatsoever okay, so you know what I mean, yeah so the person did not establish it at all whatsoever.
Speaker 3:I get that people can play characters we see it because people because that's the hard part is the public assumes like, oh my God, this person is crazy in real life.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And it's like that's them.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 3:But this part is them doing a job, it's doing a job, it's still them. I mean, there are TikToks who do characters and you can tell that they are characters a chorus, whatever, whatnot, Because this particular rapper when, when they're rapping, they're flamboyant, oh, like nobody's business, well, but in real life they get dolled up sure but are they like that, or do they still behave like that?
Speaker 1:it's kind of like wrestlers. When wrestlers do it, they become the very flamboyant characters.
Speaker 3:Who are very flamboyant.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and then they're straight afterwards. I just like, if you're going to play a very flamboyant character as a straight man, I appreciate and I appreciate it. I just I do hate it sometimes because it becomes like oh, I love the character, I want to meet the character, and then when you meet the character, and it's a fucking.
Speaker 3:You're meeting, you're meeting, you're meeting, you're meeting the person that does the job.
Speaker 1:I'm just like oh, I hate it. I already hate it.
Speaker 3:It is what it is. It is what it is. It's a job.
Speaker 1:It is a job, it's a character and I get it. I'm not saying your pet peeve, it's. It's a very fucking pet peeve of mine because it's just like don't do that.
Speaker 3:I've been who, people who are very authentic to themselves as a person well, here's the thing if you're authentic to yourself, why would you be upset about it? Why would you be offended?
Speaker 1:because they're not.
Speaker 3:They're not pretending to be something that has nothing to do with you, so why does it bother you?
Speaker 1:because it's a character that you should not be portraying at all whatsoever.
Speaker 2:Period I don't even like who?
Speaker 3:because that isn't well here's then it would be the same thing as the actors, because sometimes they don't. They shouldn't be portraying who they and that I agree with was 100.
Speaker 1:You shouldn't oh god damn, we, we are really going off subject here we are this shit just got real?
Speaker 2:hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:I get, I get actors that are playing characters, but I will, I will always stick to do not whitewash a character that's not supposed to be whitewashed, period. Okay, I will stand by that period. Okay. Whoever it is, okay, that's a character. But I also will say if you're going to make a gay character, don't make a gay character too flamboyant. That you're wanting to make. That not every gay person's this particular way, right, because not every gay person is flamboyant. Here's becomes my double-edged sword, that is, that I get that portrayal that people think that we're always this. We, we know makeup, we know drag, we know articy, we know sewing. We know this. Not everyone know. Come on, I barely know some of that shit, right? Yeah, so, um, but it looked like I do because I can pay attention. I've been, I've hung out with you for so fucking long and hubby, who used to do drag, and I've hung out with drag queens too as well. It's just like I know drag. Do I speak it?
Speaker 1:no, I don't yeah now the reason they say don't do these things is because people expect us. People are going to expect you to be a character through and through. And then when you get mad that that's just a character on stage, then why are you playing that character in the first place? If you are not this character, I get it. But if I'm not this character, I get it. But if I'm trying to suck your dick at the end of the night and you're straight and you're playing a gay character, that's on you, buddy. I'm like dude, you've given me what. I'm turned on to a feminine guy who I like and you fucking fit the bill.
Speaker 3:And in my head it's the opposite, because I'm kind of like you're a consumer, so you know you know, you know, don't have the expectation that people are who they are, because, as a consumer, you know what it's like, especially when it comes to well, here's the thing, like I said, double-edged swords through and through double-edged swords through and through, because when we talk about dicks and dallas, right, he's never came out to say if he's gay, straight, bisexual or any type of sexuality.
Speaker 1:Wow, he hasn't that's really weird. It's really weird, yeah, but he sings these songs that are very like oh very, yeah, very deep and very gay, super gay and straight people like them but it hasn't come forth at all whatsoever right do I honestly believe that he is gay?
Speaker 1:no, I do not. I was at that concert. I read the fucking room. I read him from head to toe. I don't. I honestly don't think he's 100 gay at all. Period now it's a character it's a character so and again. That's my pet peeve. It's because it's like I get it. I listen to the music, I enjoy the music. It is a very amazing person. I think that's why he doesn't do none of the meet and greets, probably yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:That would make sense you know, that's a good reason not to yeah, that would be a good reason, because you're the only one that has the pet peeve that's going to be disappointed when you meet him like yo wait what I thought you were this person so my other pet peeve would be because I do like this individual and he's the one that plays zeke from wizard of waverly place, which his name is, uh, daniel something, um, but anywho, he was the best friend to one of the character in the thing. It was really place. He became a porn star and he caters to gay men and which becomes gay baiting. You know what I mean, and we know that every straight person has done some type of gay porn, because it was the moneymaker back in the day, because people wouldn't make money. If you were gay and you were to do this, or if you played a bisexual role, you would make an X amount of money.
Speaker 1:This should be a spicy talk show, but anyhow, I'm gonna wrap it up because I'm gonna save the rest for this for Friday. Also, gay baiting. He doesn't do anything with men at all, but he has recently started to do so because he is. He's messing with a person who is trans, who still has a tool that they're able to still use, so he's able to play. Interesting that they're able to still use, so he's able to play, but interesting. It is different because it's still a female that he's still attracted to, who still has the equipment ah doesn't make sense whole other subject on its own, but we won't go into that.
Speaker 1:But anywho, that is the end of our podcast. You have to come by on friday on sprite, on our spicy, freaky fridays to be able to do it. I'm actually really excited because we are having a master of uh that's coming in. That is part of the bdsm and leather community, so he will definitely be on the podcast. He will be substituting uh next friday. Uh, he'll be coming out. Uh, I said this friday, it's next Friday. He'll be here and he'll be on the podcast. We have an appointment on Tuesday with him, so we're going to have everything pre-recorded and everything on there. So I'm actually looking forward to that on next Friday. This Friday it's just going to be me and Didi kind of talking about kind of like the spicy stuff, like what's going on in the world of sex world, if you will, kind of like. This is what we're just doing, because I think it's very interesting and a very good topic to talk about.
Speaker 1:It's part of adulting, you guys, it really is it really is, because it brings out a whole different subject of what?
Speaker 3:we're talking about. It brings out a whole different side of people.
Speaker 1:It really does, because man me and you were just like wait a minute.
Speaker 3:Wait what me?
Speaker 1:and you were just like wait a minute wait, what it's at the end of the, at the end of the day, that my thing is is that playing a character is great, but when you're straight and playing a character that people think who you are and it becomes like they fall in love with you and they're trying to make a move on you, and then you're not gay, you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot. You kind of really are. And I only say that is because, yes, gay baiting is a real thing. Gay baiting is a very dangerous thing because people think who you are as a person, because you're catering to a demographic of people who like these things and think you are this and you're not this, and people will never have the opportunity to work with you in the near future. If you are an X type of worker, right, so they'll never have the opportunity to be able to do that because you don't like the demographic you cater to it, right, but you'll never play with it.
Speaker 1:But anyway, Makes sense, that's the end of our podcast. I am your host, jesse James, and I am your co-host, dee Dee. This is the Mature Mischief Podcast. Tune in next time on Friday for Freaky Friday and, of course, our shenanigans Saturdays, and I appreciate y'.
