
LifeGLOSS: The Pro-Aging Beauty Podcast
LifeGLOSS is a Beauty podcast for sassy and seasoned women who have lived life- and have a drawer full of lipgloss to prove it.
Join Cosmetic Industry/ Make-up Artist mavens Hillary Clark-Mina and Susan Gerdeman as they discuss life and how it relates to the world of beauty - inside and out - as beauty veterans who have been in the trenches (behind the counters and behind the scenes) with more than 5 decades of combined experience.
Share product reviews, talk about facing life with fine lines, learn tips & techniques, and join beauty industry guests to get in on the “Glossip”.
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LifeGLOSS: The Pro-Aging Beauty Podcast
Rashia Bell: Ballerina to Holistic Healer
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Recovering perfectionist.
Susan:Oh
Rashia :received
Susan:know, right? Yeah. I'm such a recovering perfectionist. You have no idea.
Hillary Clark-Mina :And it's a journey
Rashia :that it
Susan:it's the worst.
Rashia :that It
Susan:I try not to pass it on to my kids, but I think my daughter has it, so we're working on it.
Rashia :hard.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Perfectionist in recovery.
Susan:Yeah. we really are. I know for,
Rashia :so much of my journey, for sure.
Susan:Well, we're gonna talk about your journey. In fact, I'm gonna embarrass you a little bit now and I'm gonna just take a little bit outta your
Rashia :Yeah,
Susan:can know a little bit about who the. Rashia you. You just, your energy is just it. You radiate and I am definitely a moth to a flame, people like that. So I knew that we had to have you on to talk. So
Rashia :so
Susan:Rashia Bell, you are the co-founder of the Crystalline and Re-Vityl. are an energetic interior designer. A crystal healer, somatic movement, body work practitioner and luxury spa and hotel consultant. has over 15 years in the wellness space. She also started out as a professional. Ballerina, you recently brought in Re-Vityl, which we wanna know more about and our listeners definitely wanna know more about, which is a holistic luxury sleep company. You attended FIT, the New York School of Interior Design. you are currently in. but you are also currently the resident healer and meditation master with the Four Seasons in Philadelphia. Yay, New York City. You're, we can find you everywhere from Costa Rica to Hawaii, helping thousands of people find inner peace as well as new ways to heal. So. really wanted to have you on, and when I talked about you to Hillary, she agreed because we talk a lot on life, gloss about beauty on the outside, Hillary and I both have an invested interest and passion for beauty on the inside, A deep dive with you today.
Rashia :I
Susan:So welcome.
Rashia :Thank
Hillary Clark-Mina :Welcome.
Rashia :for having
Hillary Clark-Mina :We're thrilled. We can't wait to hear more.
Rashia :It.
Susan:it really is.
Rashia :for sure.
Susan:yeah.
Hillary Clark-Mina :So tell us,
Susan:there.
Hillary Clark-Mina :How did you go from dance to holistic healing and holistic health?
Rashia :Yeah, well there were definitely about 10 other things probably in between that. So it wasn't a direct route. But I started ballet at the age of two. I started training with the Pennsylvania Ballet at the age of five. And my, trajectory and the discipline that, instills within you, I think probably also kind of leads to a lot of the versatility that I've had within my career. But, my dancing career was unfortunately cut short because I was injured. I stress fractured my back. And so while I always knew that I, the plan was to go to New York City and the plan was to dance also, you know, college was always on the roadmap as well, especially since dancing has such a short lifespan. So I knew I wanted to be in New York City, and I knew that I always had an. Interest in fashion and luxury and things like that. So the original plan was to kind of pursue those simultaneously. it, deviated obviously to focusing, a bit more on the non dancing career pursuits. ultimately what really led me to. the holistic work that I do now is, healing, from the trauma of the loss of a career that is built from a true passion, a career that also is something that not everybody can do. When you talk about dancing or ballet in particular. And so. There really was a grieving process that took place over the course of sort of years in trying to figure out what would sort of fill that void or fill that space. and I never felt like the jobs that I had were sort of doing that. And, you know, I, I was very lucky. My career in New York City, sort of within luxury, started off within jewelry. I worked for Mikimoto. And that almost was the seed that was planted in this feature sort of holistic life in the way that I work with stones and in the way that I work with energy in particular as a crystal healer. you were sort of getting those cues and clues, but you weren't really sure exactly how they were to take shape. I knew at that point I wasn't. to be a jewelry designer. And so I became a cosmetic buyer, which is something that I did for about 10 years, working with various companies. But I always really enjoyed being around product. I loved, being in that conception phase. I loved being in that creator role and sort of seeing products and things come to fruition. so, I also knew that I wanted to work for myself. when I decided to go back to school to become an interior designer, it was really that. Immediately when I finished, you know, by simultaneously working and being in school, the economy cRashia, reentered a recession. And I felt like, oh, here you are at this like juxtaposition again where life sort of isn't working out as planned. Right? And, and I think sort of having gone through that a couple of times, that's what's really set me sort of head first into sort of an, an inner journey and really exploring a multitude of things and. It really started off from the vantage point of, of sort of working through those things myself, whether it was through therapy or life coaching or somatic work, which I wouldn't necessarily advise for everyone because it can be pretty intense. but that was my, particular approach. And then that unearthed, My interest in stones that I had when I was even working in jewelry and wanting to think about other ways that I could incorporate them. So I started to think about how I could piece them together from an energetic perspective. When we talk about design and spaces and how they make people feel, which also kind of led me to getting to work one-on-one with clients and really realizing that understanding what was happening with their energy is, a beautiful way for understanding the type of space that you need to create for them. But then has sort of, yeah, just permeated into this world where I've been able to have all these different touch points of ways to connect with people and energy. Both be it one-on-one or within their spaces. that's the abridged version of the nine lives that have lived.
Susan:You know what I love about this as I'm listening to you talk through this. The first thing is I think as women, we often talk about how we reinvented ourselves, right? There seems to be a big thing now, like, oh, we're reinventing ourselves, or, we're older now, or We're gonna do this now. You didn't. You evolved. That's number one. Number two. You listened. You listened to your inner voice, you listened to the signs, right? You saw them, but you listened and you paid attention because your story just, it was like everything just connected, you know, from what was maybe something that you thought, you know, that grieving process, which I wanna talk more about. Going through an injury and then having to change your trajectory. And you know, that's evolving,
Hillary Clark-Mina :Right.
Susan:And I think that is such a beautiful thing. And I just, I love how you really listened to yourself. You honored yourself. You sort of said, know, I don't need to reinvent myself. I just need to pay attention to all these signs. And there set forth your whole entire career and it all just makes sense. Do you know what I mean?
Rashia :I was just gonna say, you know, I think of course when you're in the thick of it, it doesn't feel that way. Right.
Susan:Right.
Rashia :going against. You know, everything that perhaps seems logical, right? but yes, I think ultimately, you know, as I got older, you know, I'm someone that's always been really tapped into my intuition and, it's hard for me to kind of turn the volume down on that. And so I found that when I stopped resisting. Against that honestly that is exactly like you said when things started to sort of find that flow. And started to find the ways that they just naturally began to link together without me kind of having to force it. But I definitely didn't know that I saw it from that vantage point for sure. in the moment.
Hillary Clark-Mina :It's so interesting. I think that your message will really strike a note with people that might feel like. They've had a loss of a failure.'cause it's not always an injury. Sometimes, you know, we identify losses that we don't have control over or we do, and we just say, well, if it's changed and it wasn't this big, magnificent exit, it was a failure. And it's not always that way. You know, these are transitions and they can be blessings and they can be hardships. And I think that maybe this has probably stopped a few people that were expecting this to be a fluffy healing crystal sort of an episode to, pause if they're listening in their cars, turn it up and pay more attention. Or if they're at home, maybe. Buckle up and say, whoa, this is going much deeper than I thought. So thank you for going right there with us.
Rashia :No, I appreciate that and I can share that, you know, as a sort of very grounded Capricorn energy person that always sort of had this bar, you know, essentially that they were chasing for themself, I a hundred percent perceive them as failures in the moment. And then you start to kind of piece together, you know, why is there this sort of reoccurring theme, right? and yes, of course there are a lot of things that were out of my control. I didn't know that I was gonna get injured. I didn't know I was gonna have the loss of a parent. I didn't know, a recession was gonna happen. But ultimately I think when you can move away from that sort of mindset, that really is where you do start to find kind of that ease. life. Let me try the thing that I haven't tried, which essentially was let me release the control and release the thought that things had to be this specific way. because you didn't achieve that you're destined to continue to follow that. And so maybe it comes from a little bit of stubbornness as well. But it definitely took me a little bit of time to get to that place. Like, okay, I'm gonna try. The one thing that I haven't done is to surrender essentially.
Hillary Clark-Mina :There's a lot to be said,
Susan:I think you,
Hillary Clark-Mina :surrendering.
Susan:Yeah. And you talked about, you know, grief. And we often think about, especially as we get older, right, because this is our listener, right? We're we're older women listening predominantly.
Rashia :Mm-hmm.
Susan:this is our listener. And I've learned as I've gotten older, and I don't know how you all feel about this, but as I've gotten older, I've learned grief is really such a powerful tool that is. In many ways, very positive it does open us up to knowing new possibilities. Right. And when we grieve something, it doesn't have to be in sadness like we've all set out in our lives with different things. You know, I was supposed to be, a very famous actress by now, right. So with millions of fans around the world. And there comes a point in your life where you do look back and that's one of the gifts of getting older, right? And you look back and you say, I do need to come to peace with it. Come to peace with it. Grieve it, let it go, whatever you wanna call it. But it's not a bad thing. It's like you have to say, you know what? That didn't happen for me. But you know what did happen for me? This happened for me and that happened for me and that path. And so I think that sometimes we get stuck in our own way because we're busy grieving incorrectly. You offer so many services, and we've talked about this off camera and, you know, sound bath the, the, you know, coming to someone's home and actually installing crystals in their floors doing one-on-one client work. I mean, you do so much in the world of healing and wellness. Do you have a favorite. Aspect of that that you like doing? Is there something that you're like, I love everything that I do and I really enjoy this aspect of what I do, especially with the crystalline.
Rashia :Yeah. You know, that's such a great question and I think it's so hard to answer'cause I do feel like I kind of am that person that has kind of those multiple personalities in the sense and likes to kind of obviously have their hands in a few things. Life would probably be a lot simpler I think for me, honestly, like the favorite thing is the connection and so the connection to the clients that I have, and so I think it's less about the specific service that I'm providing for them. I mean, don't get me wrong, it's fun to just like bring the magic and bring the crystals and you know, I'm gonna show up at your house with 10,000 pounds of stones and we're gonna install them in the bottom of your swimming pool how could that not be fun?
Susan:Oh my God. I can't wait to do that one day with you,
Rashia :I would love,
Susan:can't wait.
Rashia :but no, I think it's really like through those various service, the connections, the relationships that you form and really sort of being able to be a conduit for someone's energetic expression. so for some people, that happens in a really powerful way, in a one-on-one healing experience. You know, I'm also a birth doula now, so sometimes it's literally, being there, when a baby is born, which is just, of course, pure magic. and how you're able to support and hold space for people in that way. So. And so yeah, other times it's getting to be creative and being able to design the crystal jewelry or whatever that may be. And so I feel really lucky that I get to wear so many different hats that can really interact and resonate with people in a lot of different ways.
Susan:It's so cool.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Do you find it common that your client path, and this is sort of off topic, but I would imagine that if I were staying at the Four Seasons and I was lucky enough to schedule something with you and had an experience with you, then I would, I'd wanna bring you home to, you know, take a look at my environment. If I were having a child, I'd want you to be involved in that. So do you find that, you know, you have this. Keep first touch point with a client and then you become more and more engaged in their life as they go through different phases. It seems natural.
Rashia :Yes. Yes, a hundred percent. And sometimes it's not clear at that first. Point of
Hillary Clark-Mina :I.
Rashia :you know, what the ripple effect will be. And sometimes that process is over the course of years. I have a client that, I first met almost 10 years ago when she started buying products for me and then was interested in coming on wellness retreats that I was doing, and then now is like, Hey, I'm creating a beautiful. Yoga space and I'm ready for you to come in and work your crystal magic. So I think the entry points can be sort of really different, but I think what's really beautiful is sort of the ripple effects that you have and I think that's. The lovely thing is how you can sort of support clients, as they move through their own evolution, right? and that's kind of exactly what you shared in the beginning. It's being the common thread. So it's nice to weave that into other people's lives as well.
Susan:I love that. Working with someone, maybe helping them give birth, and then all of a sudden you're like, you know, laying crystals in the child's room or the nursery, and then that couple goes on a retreat and you see them there. I love that you have so many different points of connection that you can make because you do offer so many different services and you get to work at such amazing properties.
Rashia :Yes.
Susan:stayed at many of the properties that you have worked at. Hopefully in the future it'll be at the same time that you're there. And we'll make that happen. Do you have a favorite, I won't say a favorite property, because you do work with so many different properties and we wouldn't want to say you have a favorite, but is there a place that you work, so not the actual company or the property, but is there a place. Geographically that you really are drawn to more than another. I mean, I know you go to so many incredible places, but is there one that you're like, really, really, really, really love it there.
Rashia :sure. You know, I think
Susan:I.
Rashia :One of the places that was such sort of a really pivotal part in my own healing journey. and also in, when I first started hosting my own retreats was being in Colombia. And I actually even lived there in Meine for about a year and a half. But I've found that there's like this common thread and more recently now I've been spending. A lot of time in Costa Rica. And so for me in particular, the thread that sort of weaves between them are these places that are sort of rich in this volcanic energy. And there's no surprise that I live in Hawaii because that is one of those. So for me, there's something about regions that have that energy of that particular land. Volcanic energy is energy of transformation. There's a reason why I called my retreat, sort of tropical transformation.'cause I felt like that was they were really promoting. And so I think when we're in spaces and beautiful places that have that energy those are the ones that really feel most resonant for me. And those are the ones I think, ultimately, that I see within my clients that, they're able to really tap into that resonance in such a lovely way.
Susan:That's so interesting.
Hillary Clark-Mina :And when you talk, we've talked a lot about crystals and it's a key part. Clearly it, it's important for you. It's a cornerstone for. So much of what you do, I'd love to learn more about your relationship with crystals and the crystalline training that you receive. So for anyone listening that you know is new to this, what are we talking about?
Rashia :Yeah, for sure.
Hillary Clark-Mina :I.
Rashia :With, for me, crystals and working with mineral energy are about a resonance with nature. And so I think when we live in these cities, oftentimes we find ourselves devoid in that, right? That's why we go on the retreat or you know, that's why we're like, get me to the mountains so I can, just breathe that fresh air. And so when working with stones, for me, I think having something that's tactile. just a really beautiful reminder of your connection to mindfulness and your connection to nature. all ancient civilizations had had stones that they really revered for their energetic properties. So I think I, you know, I also sort of always impart like this isn't just something new and trendy because everyone's into yoga and Pilates and like all the things. this is something that, our ancestors resonated with, right? So for me, it's also a connection to history. it's a connection to the lineages that exist sort of within nature. But ultimately minerals hold different energies just on based on how they're created by the earth. And so if you're talking about, you talked about transformation and that sort of volcanic energy and obsidian is a stone that comes from that, gonna have a very different energy, than something that you find in the Arctic circle. Right. Just sort of in how the earth birthed it. And so I think when we really look to these things, whether it's the stones that we're wearing in our jewelry, which is really a beautiful reminder of that connection to the energy that we can have when we wear certain pieces. But we can also bring them into our spaces. We can also have them as those visual reminders, right? If you're someone that perceives them as beauty then you can treat them the same way that you do as art, but also you're having that frequency of nature. Within your space and so. when I sort of set out to integrate them into my interior design, there wasn't a place to go to for that. There wasn't a formula, there wasn't, you know, we of course are familiar with feng shui when we talk about interior design and spaces and ways that we can look at energy. And stones are a beautiful part of that as well. Also in traditional East Indian culture, vast shastra stones are also a part of their sort of organic planning to how you think about spaces. So there's also history sort of within that there, but there wasn't a school, there wasn't a place to see how you can incorporate that and merge it with interior design. And so I just set out initially to really learn about stones. I had, a chance encounter where I had just come back from the GEM shows and I was in LA and I had heard about a beautiful showroom there that used to be there called Place eight Healing. And, the founder was launching a jewelry line. And so I was sharing with her some of my background and jewelry and she's like. If you really wanna learn about stone energy, here's who you should study with. And she recommended Katrina Raphael, who has, has written many books on the crystal healing sort of dating back to the seventies. But she has a school called the Crystal Academy for Advanced Healing Arts. and so with that information, I said, okay, I'm gonna learn about that. And so over the course of about 10 years, I did three trainings with them. Obviously, you have to have a lot of one-on-one practicum work. as you're evolving throughout that. And so that really gave me the foundation to learn about stones, to learn about their energy, to learn about how individual's energy can resonate with that. And then from that point, I took it upon myself to see how to work with it in spaces. And it's really kind of just been this organic thing really over the past 10 plus years. And because every individual's energy is different. So even though you sort of have a loose template for, oh, okay, this stone is calming, how one person connects to that energy is gonna be very different.
Susan:Right.
Rashia :about that
Susan:Yeah.
Rashia :is a constant learning process.
Susan:Specifically as a medium, you know, hold so much energy and so much power. But you know, so many of our listeners have heard, oh, you know, use amethyst for this or use, you know this for that. But it is so personal to your point, like how you respond, how you respond to turquoise is gonna be very different than how I respond to turquoise or, you know, lapis. Or we could go on and on and on. but thinking about that, if you had to generalize, just generally thinking for some of our listeners that are out there right now and thinking to themselves, you know, I know a little bit about maybe I wanna get a gif for myself or do something, you know, is there a sort of crystal that. woman over the age of 40 or women going through menopause or going through transition is for our listeners out there. Is there a particular crystal or a couple of different crystals that you would recommend would be a good place to start if they're interested before reaching out and finding you?
Rashia :I think there really are kind of two camps that feel most resonant, especially within this hectic, hyper technological focused world that we live in today. And I think those are stones that are for clearing energy and stones that are for grounding. Because I find we're either on one side of it. Either we're like super sluggish and we're feeling heavy, and we don't wanna get out of bed or our mind is spinning and racing and we just can't ground because we're 10 steps ahead of everything and we can't just shut off. Or, we're glued to these devices and things like that. Exactly, or both. Right. You know, and I think, we like vacillate between that Throughout the day where we can really feel that in any moment. And especially when you're talking, women of a certain age and perimenopause menopause, you're going through that like full, full spectrum.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Right.
Rashia :I think definitely when you talk about grounding stones, like black tourmaline like obsidian that I mentioned, like smoky quartz, the common theme with them, they also are gonna be your darker colored stones. Tend to have a bit more denser energy, tend to have energy that has the ability to transmute also, To absorb some of those electromagnetic frequencies and things because a lot of times that's what's really affecting us. it's, that we're glued to this tech 24 7. so on the grounding sort of camp, those are stones that I would recommend and they're also really useful when we're feeling anxious. When we're feeling overwhelmed, when we need to just kind of settle our energy. And then on the flip side, when we're feeling like super low energy and super heavy, stones to think about when we're clearing energy or for clearing spaces. And so your clear cords, your selenite is one of my favorite stones because it's a salt based stone. So it's sort of giving that same effect that we feel when we're in the ocean, when we're in salt water. You know, when you're just able to kind of float and sort of have that weight kind of taken off of you. Like selenite is sort of the energetic car wash crystal as I like, to call it in that it,
Hillary Clark-Mina :Writing this down.
Rashia :energy as well,
Hillary Clark-Mina :Interesting. What about something like a citrine or like a labradorite? Do those count as like opposites? Like the labradorite would be darker and.
Rashia :not quite, your citrine is gonna be energy activating. So you know, that's for your 4:00 PM when you wanna reach for that coffee your, or you wanna spark creativity. Citrine aligns with the solar plexus energy. So it's very much about kind of like balancing those systems. So on those extremes, That spark plug, that jumpstart. When you look to your sort of golden energy stones labradorite is a highly intuitive stone that that one can take on a lot of different energies. It's the stone of sort of magic. Especially in all of those beautiful colors that you see within it, it's sort of like in the eye of the beholder, right? and what you sort of observe. And so for some people that can be really beautiful for sort of dream work. In particular when you're sleeping. For others that could be like. already have like highly active dreams and I don't need anything to make them even more active. I'm already like not getting restful sleep, so. To that point in what we said earlier, it's so unique to the individual. You know, some people sleep like baby with amethyst on their nightstand. Other people, it's like the most disruptive, thing to have in your room. And so what I always like to share is it's a process of trial and error, you know, and especially within spaces when you're thinking about where you put them, how you use certain stones. Move them around. Move them throughout your home, see if there's a better place for it, that resonates for you. Don't be fixated on, oh, it's the stone for this thing. Like, I have to have it here because it's gonna really be unique to each person.
Susan:Yeah. And you brought up sleep, you know and I, and I wanted to, while we have you for this time, I do wanna talk about Re-Vityl because when we first met at our mutual friend Natasha's house I was so intrigued by this new company that you have going on that really is focused on the fine art of sleep and how important sleep is. Believe me, it's something that is in my house. So, yes, sleep. So tell us about Re-Vityl.
Rashia :Yeah, I mean, it was birthed from really a place of myself being someone that always requires a lot of sleep and not quite always getting that and how to kind of make that as quality of a sleep as possible. My business partner Eva Vic, is a mom, and so at the time when we launched, she had very young children and so she was going through that phase of not sleeping. Both of us were avid travelers, We talked a little about, the amount of time, within the year that I spend in hotels is quite a bit. And so initially it was really from the vantage point of thinking about how can we support people sort of during travel? But in the lead up to sort of launching the brand, COVID happened and nobody was traveling, but also no one was sleeping. And so that really created a unique opportunity when you really talk about energy and how you can sort of improve your sleep. And so our hero product is a sleep mask that actually has that crystalline of it. It has an insert. And so tourmaline, as I talked about, acts as that grounding energy zone. And so it sort of function as, as like that energetic weighted blanket, for you when you're sleeping. And so you know, with my background and beauty, my partner's background also in. Luxury and cosmetics. We wanted to really create a holistic sleep brand that wasn't, you know, built on taking the meds and the pills and all the things. And that really talked to a sleep ritual. so the sleep masks sort of accented by organic body care and essential oils that have really been crafted and blended to sort of support. Your sleep journey. But when we talk about sleep, you know, it affects obviously our full day. and really Re-Vityl was created from, you know, this essentially how can we Re-Vitylize ourselves through our sleep and have those ripple effects, all day long.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Sign me up immediately.
Rashia :Yes.
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Rashia :and
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Susan:Oh, that would be wonderful. I know our listeners would love that because they will definitely, after listening to this episode, wanna go on and see how they can find you
Rashia :yes.
Susan:a person and all your services where in the world is Rashiaia, right? these are, you know, they all speak to the different facets of who you are, the healing, the wellness, the sleep. These are all. All things that are a part of beauty that we all need. It's not just external, it's, it's all starts with the inside first. Right?
Rashia :No. Anyone that's sort of, you know, evolving on their own journey, you know, it is that reminder of, of look to yourself first. Look to, you know. Your own needs. Look to what's important to you. Where are the gaps, you know, kind of within where you can't find perhaps the products that, that you are seeking out. Because I think that can be or the experiences as well. I think that can be just a really yeah, unique launching point for not only creating something that serves you, but creating something that's authentic. And when you start from that place. People are gonna naturally resonate
Susan:So where can people find you? Where are you next?
Rashia :you know, it changes by the day and it will probably be very different depending on when this actually airs. But I split my time between sort of east and west coast. When I'm on the East Coast, it's Philadelphia and New York, so if you do sign up for the crystalline newsletter, I always notify everyone, when I'm passing through and kind of when I'm making rounds through cities, be it Miami or la. yes. My hotel residencies or retreats or things are planned a little bit further out. So we're working on next year's schedule already. But some fun, exotic places to come for sure.
Susan:Oh, I'm so.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Definitely let me know when you're in Los Angeles,
Rashia :I definitely will for
Hillary Clark-Mina :that would be wonderful.
Rashia :I would love
Susan:Yes, and I have to come in and see you at the, you know, shout out to Four Seasons in Philly.
Rashia :that.
Susan:Honestly I was actually at the Four Seasons downtown New York on my birthday in March for Massage. That was also excellent. But I have to tell you, if anyone listening is a Four Seasons junkie as much as I am I will tell. I will tell you.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Yes.
Susan:We know that. But
Hillary Clark-Mina :Yeah.
Susan:tell you. That the Four Seasons in Philly, I think Bethany Frankel just said it's the most beautiful hotel she's ever seen. And I have to tell you guys, the Four Seasons in Philly worth a trip to Philly.
Rashia :so
Susan:right?
Rashia :Philadelphia
Susan:right.
Rashia :Had the pleasure of them allowing me to be in there with a hard hat during construction and installing crystals into the walls of the treatment rooms and the spa, Had, was really just such a highlight in my career and also my tie to the city and the story and, to have a part in every little treatment at the spa, be it the crystals that the guests get or that they get when they check out of the hotel
Susan:Yeah.
Rashia :So it, it's fun always when friends are there and get to discover it as well.
Susan:I
Rashia :a
Susan:You there
Rashia :that one has like a special, special place in my heart for sure.
Susan:it really is. Yeah. Because you know when I was, when I was there, I was like, oh, she's with me. She's with me right now. it was so nice.
Rashia :I
Susan:Yeah. it's really magnificent. I mean, of course the Four Seasons in Maui, we, you know, we could go on,
Rashia :yeah,
Susan:and I honeymooned at the Four Seasons on the big island.
Rashia :I
Susan:so shout out to Four Seasons.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Oh love.
Rashia :Yeah.
Susan:They're pretty fantastic. So, well Rashiaia, we could talk to you forever, so you're gonna have to come back on.
Rashia :happy to.
Susan:if
Rashia :so much fun.
Susan:love to have you back on
Rashia :appreciate you
Susan:more about what you're doing.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Yeah, maybe we could even sneak, some behind the scenes IRL with you when you're doing an installation that we would be allowed to see
Rashia :Yeah, I will
Hillary Clark-Mina :So maybe people can really see you in action with everything around you and really we can see a little glimpse into the magic that you create.
Rashia :Yes. No, we'll definitely keep you posted
Hillary Clark-Mina :Okay.
Rashia :know that next time I'm in the city I can maybe pop by the
Hillary Clark-Mina :Love it.
Rashia :and Show you a little bit about what a crystal healing experience is like.
Hillary Clark-Mina :Yeah,
Susan:And
Hillary Clark-Mina :we love it.
Susan:I'm coming to Costa Rica next time too,
Hillary Clark-Mina :too.
Rashia :I know,
Hillary Clark-Mina :See you there.
Rashia :I know.
Susan:we.
Rashia :me as well and now there's like a wait list,
Susan:I bet there's a wait list.
Rashia :come visit me.
Susan:Yes. you let us know where you are and we will be there for sure.
Hillary Clark-Mina :That's right.
Rashia :Look
Hillary Clark-Mina :you.
Rashia :Thank you so much.
Susan:thank you so much, Rashiaia. Thank you for being here.