En åben snak med dj og label boss Kenneth Bager om hans passion for musik .
En åben snak med dj og label boss Kenneth Bager om hans passion for musik .
Music. Welcome to the Museo Locale podcast. My name is Peter Visti and I have been a musician for my entire life and I have lived my entire life of music in one or the other way. I am a musician and have been a young man since I was a child. I have been sleeping with my headphones on and listening to music during my entire night sleep, something I still practice. Music is my passion, my drive, my mood and daily forms of music. Music has a unique ability to express feelings and connect people in different cultures. My goal is to find out how different people experience love for music and how it varies from their lives. What is the purpose of the new guest? To talk about their relationship to music and how they live and influence music, insect inspiration and, hopefully, some fun and exciting surprises. Welcome to Museo Locale podcast. Music Mit Drug. Welcome to Kellenbager.
Speaker 2:Thank you for being here. You are welcome.
Speaker 1:You have been on my list of wishes.
Speaker 2:You have.
Speaker 1:Yes, it is a big deal. What is it called? A presentation that I have thought about and I think that is the best DJ in the world in 1999. In 2022, you will get the step-up prize the year's pioneer. Yes, it is a long journey from 1999 to 2022.
Speaker 2:Yes, there are at least a few words. Yes, there are a few words In between.
Speaker 1:I don't think there are any music that is less like me and perhaps even more passionate than I am, than you. You have been a great idol for me. What it is still a thing yes, it is and a big inspiration from the Limerick Jyvland when you hear about Kellenbager.
Speaker 2:That is why I am sitting in an original and in the Koma Records, I think A record I had in the early 90s, exactly.
Speaker 1:How did this passion for music start?
Speaker 2:It started with my parents. I come from Ubro, a place in Northern Ireland. I grew up in a working class at home, without a lot of money, but my parents had bought a song by Lars Thiem from a movie called Doctor Civago, a classic I saw as a child. It is a movie theme that can be mentioned about the lounge. It is very melodic. There were some differences in other songs but it is the one that stands behind the biggest memory. When I was 7, my parents and my mother saved up to buy my father's first cassette tape. He came home with the cassette tape that. I can't remember how it looked.
Speaker 2:There was a band called Ventures, which is an instrumental band. There was also an instrumental band but a band called the Chirana Brass. I heard a band called Shadows in the background. It was a big instrumental band, a trio with a lot of hits in the 90s and 90s. They were a little about the Ventures. When I heard the album I didn't know what was going on in my head. I remember the side of the album which I was listening to this fantastic trumpet. It is the first phrase that I saw.
Speaker 2:At the same time I have a cousin who lived about 5-6 km from us. My childhood was more or less 10 years old. I was out of my best field and died in my best field. I had to go to a new place to visit in the weekend. I thought it was exciting to get out and get away from the city. I was out on my best field and then I went to my cousin. At that point I saw a madras in my cousin's house, inger, who buys singles. She is a vinyl form where there could be a number on one side and a number on the other side. She was willing to buy a hit of the day but she had a lot of things she could do.
Speaker 2:I think it was a good melody or a fantastic number. We are sitting there, me and 4 cousins being siblings, listening to a guy who is a legendary DJ in Danish history. That's Jørgen Mylius. He has a program called the tip barrage. We were wondering why someone was on the hit list and why someone came in. He has the most or less talked about me.
Speaker 2:In my early years he was the one who mixed the two. There was a good melody and now I'm just talking about a big spread. Through him I learned that there was someone named Bob Dylan, stevie Wonder, sweet. There was a Danish band called Walkers, our first teenage band. He also played a lot of international hits like Uzi, biza, one African band or one of the other that had red and black music. It was a great number, but it was not better or worse than Bob Dylan or Sebastian. I think that it was always about the good melody. I took that with me. I was 15 or 16, and I started to listen to Artifacts 4, I was 14 or something. I started to show a lot of time. I started to show quite early.
Speaker 2:I was 12 or 13 years old and I started to get interested in discos. My cousin and I took part in the discos for the first time when I was 15. I found out that I could actually sit on a discos and listen to DJs, listen to all their experiences, listen to about three or four pieces and then I could go out and show what I was. After I could sleep in the school.
Speaker 1:Is it a local discos?
Speaker 2:Yes, it's called.
Speaker 1:Landsbygrun.
Speaker 2:I was sleeping in the school, more or less, or at least I was sleeping. When I came home from school One evening. I was eating and I was awake the most at night, and I was sleeping for a couple of hours and then I listened to DJs. At the same time there was a sheet from Hustenlokale I didn't know why I started to buy it but there was a sheet called Record Mirror which came out every single week, and this sheet had a side about club music or discotheque music or what you would call it. It was called discotheque music at one time.
Speaker 1:It was done at one time.
Speaker 2:And there was the announcement of all the latest new vinyl records, the latest 12-times. And then you have to imagine that, and at the same time I heard something called Radio Luxenbord, and it was like this over two years. At the same time I heard Jörn Mjöljus, because they had a program called American Imports and the Imports could be played on Friday and then they were signed on Tuesday, a week later. And then it was like this my parents always had to be on Tuesday and then I had to pay to go to the news. So I found out that there was a little what is it called? Annonce in this Record Mirror to a record store called Groove Records in London.
Speaker 2:Wow, so, I call my parents' phone. That's what's expensive and what I still have in my adult life. I wonder if I could. I call this. And then there's an elderly lady called Jean who is a boutique with her son and she plays the piano for me, which I call up and talk to the light so good that I can, and she plays it over the phone and my parents have got a huge number.
Speaker 2:I think it's been completely watered with it, but at the same time, it happens that they never say anything and I get these records sent from England. We talk about 98, 99. Wow, I buy twelve times a day and so I have. What can you say from the first twelve times I made? I think 96, 97, 97. So I have almost been in the clouds all the way from the start, and it took me a couple of years before I started finding out that you could actually buy these records I heard they could be well-known.
Speaker 2:And then I started to come out and play as a DJ and I had this competition where I dressed up in a dame shirt and I was in bed and all kinds of things, and I started to become the best DJ in the world and I got a job at the local place in Hubruta called Vownjulet, and it's a place where I always say that it's a place where there are often two revitalized rock bands, not rock bands like HA or no, no, no, we had some ballads with us too.
Speaker 2:Or we had some that would be a winner and they. It was like I stood here and I had a great love for club music, whether it was James Brown or Fatback Band or, for the last time, sledge or whatever it was, and I don't think they were interested in that.
Speaker 2:No. But actually some of them said, if this is James Brown's sex machine, it's actually pretty cool. So I remember that if they had got a knock at the funk, they would just put a beer directly on the plate and they would say now you're just playing Deep Purple, or.
Speaker 1:Black.
Speaker 2:Sabbath or Thin Lizzie or whatever it was, and I didn't have any problems with that because I think that in the series with the rock music, deep Purple's plate made in rock is one of my favorite bands. It's a fantastic plate and it's a pair of eyes with Black Sabbath and it's the same. But what it is was that the tits often come up and knock these two revalidated rock bands. They sat in each other's seats or inside the hall and then it was best in a way, like like, like Luke.
Speaker 2:Then there's one country looking at a lady, or one country, or one comes to scoop oil on the floor, or one country, and then they start knocking and then the politics always came. And then, where I was standing with the pool, I was standing with my back on and I could always see the light of the politicians. So when they were just standing outside, I sat down with the sweet with the number that's called Blockbusters, which starts with a politician.
Speaker 2:And then everyone just stopped knocking and then they just went back to their seats and the politics came in and no one was supposed to be there. Totally sick.
Speaker 1:Totally sick.
Speaker 2:And then you can say I also play there and then I think I should in a way into a DJ-bureau. I had heard of that and we talk about it very, very early. At that point you have to know that the whole of Denmark was over-swimmed by only English DJs. Yes, totally, there was no Danish. There was a guy named Daniel, who I think came from Breastrup or Silkeborg, who actually started to say let's hear Danish and we can do something. So he made a DJ-bureau that I never came into because I think I was too strange or I don't know in relation to it. But so it was very, very difficult to speak English when you presented the record because it made the English and if there was something I could, I could speak English.
Speaker 1:And it was very difficult to get into this discussion at the time. I can remember it myself.
Speaker 2:It was completely hopeless because it was those English people who had a great microphone voice and it made the record go well and they got the latest vinyl records from England so they were all the way up front with what was top 10, or top 20, or top 40 on the English playlist. And I can remember that I was on the first time on Datis in I think it was called Datis Daneshål in 1998, or it was also in 1997, where there was a DJ who speaks the language of the film and he mixes it perfectly and I thought, wow, it's Daneshål or Saturday Night Fever, and I thought this must be a goal to get there and think about playing in that cool pool. And I play in this little place in Ubro and then I've had a phone meeting with a office and then I get called up and they say we'd like to play in Varte down in Sønderjylland. I get down there at 10 in the evening. I think my cousin drives it down.
Speaker 1:Because it's so cool. Just like people back then, we played in the 7th and the 7th. There was open every row with their parts.
Speaker 2:Yes, it was a whole other time where people went to the city in a completely different way than they do today, because in the primeval we all knew that Torsdorf Fredrik Lörter went to the city, but they didn't go to the city on a Monday, as they did that time. So I get down to Varte and I'm standing and playing what I think and it was my first big job and I'm standing and playing what's on the list now, but then I can see there are a lot of black soldiers Because they're sitting next to a barracks and I think, ok, I love rap music and I bought it. So now I'm thinking of playing Double Dot's Boss with Frankie Smith and what I had before, all kinds of special rap tracks and what happens there? The whole dance goal is just a party. And they start dancing on the bars and they do everything possible to give me high fives. They were double as big as me and I don't know what, but they were used to hearing it. Right, they were used to hearing it because it was like there was the time music where they came from. And then they say we want to have him here. Some of us, we want to have him again because it was a big success.
Speaker 2:And then I remember that at that time, when there was a lot of people in the front line, there was a four-man, peter, who was a taxi driver and DJing in the weekend from Copenhagen. He played basketball every single weekend in the field park and he had a lot of American basketball players or basketball friends who were from New York and they had a cassette tape with them from D-Log KISS FM in New York, a very legendary radio station that also gave out some fantastic vinyl. And at the time he called me to my parents' phone and said I have received the most famous cassette tape. I'm glad to be here this afternoon. Now you just have to listen.
Speaker 2:Then he came over to me and I think it was in the beginning of 1979. And I came up, you know, just as he came in the afternoon. I remember he said now you have to listen. And then he plays the cassette tape and I sit down and just I take the nose and mouth and I don't know what to expect and then I show it to myself. It's actually before I actually played in the garden, I remember it and then he plays the rap and the delight.
Speaker 2:And I didn't know what it was. And he didn't know what it was. We could just hear that's too late. And we could hear that's used in good times music. And then it was like a huge embarrassment. And today, when we talk about it, it's about playing to the unknown and I'm not advertising and I don't know what, but at that time it was totally embarrassing and you didn't know what it was. No, and then I remember another thing that also belongs to my story. It's that at that point in time I'm going around and just like checking other DJs out. So I'm making like very, very early as a 17 year old, and then I'm going around and hearing other DJs with a writing blog, a school blog, and I've seen that already.
Speaker 1:I mean 20 years ago, you still did it right 20 years ago.
Speaker 2:Is that right? No, I don't know if.
Speaker 1:I do it. We've been sitting together for 20 years when I've probably been.
Speaker 2:But what I did there I was like I tried to say Pro and Cons, what is good and what is. What is a DJ that should be able and what is he not able to do? And the first thing I learned was that if you are a good DJ, you can get people to do whatever they want. If you are good at programming your music, you can play everything from one genre to another and then get them there where you want them to go to the end, and then you can be part of breaking or putting out the new music that you want to hear.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing I found out was that there was a father's zone, and the father's zone was that if you drink while you play, if you take a stopper there were not many stopsperes in the field today then you end up with and can become the clone in your own circus. And then you can choose whether you want to be a clone or a professional and work only to make the music you want to make. And I chose the last one, and that is also why today I think I have been fully one at a time while I have been a DJ, or else it is just like when it is Monday morning, I am at work at about 1 o'clock and it has taken me all the way and, as you can see, of course I have seen and we could make 10 podcasts about the most crazy, crazy stories about people who have taken it one or the other and who have been DJs and all the other things.
Speaker 1:That is true.
Speaker 2:But there are also a lot of people who do not do it, and you are always willing to choose and talk about the funny stories.
Speaker 1:Yes, that is true. I could keep in mind that you are saying that more and more people are following and breaking new music and stuff. I think that I have been one of your great forces and I have been one of your great forces for 45 years. I am not taking any copies, yes, of course. How do you keep in mind that you are always willing to do new things? When you are making something, you go to the USA and roll in and then it is a public society or a club or a dittadat, but it always comes about breaking new music and stuff.
Speaker 2:I would say that if we now run I do not know how many I am 4 years back or 43, 42, where I play on this, I come to get a love in Silkeborg and then I play on a place called Fast, which is 7 years old, called Bodisk, where I also played.
Speaker 2:When I started there there are some kids who are completely fantastic and I get close to my big brothers At that point. I have played a lot of different places around the world and there are really many places I buy for my monthly rent from international dance boards. It is a very strong work. The Clash or Simple Minds or what it is now about Disco Music I started out with a technique that was that if I started when I came because I played a month at a time I had like arranged out and when I started I would of course be 100% focused on and fulfill all people's wishes because I have to have people over on my side.
Speaker 2:So when I do that, I can start to move these numbers in I would like to have, and that I do from the start. And when we come to about mid-month, then all the repertoire I started with I want to have to move, just like on the background. And it made this DJ in the bar Dumική and some of these Engländer. They come up for a Bodhich with Sunday night to tell them back and forth to play regular new music, because they simply could not understand that one person could play so much new music that they couldn't at the times they were, Because everybody is programming.
Speaker 1:They against meetings.
Speaker 2:And then it ended with people starting to come from a house where they couldn't hear the music, from herrings, from vipers, and I continued to build in a way, in a way a renouement, and that's a book that he hears from some differences in Copenhagen, from English DJs in Copenhagen. There's one in the Hamdere. I was a kid, I traveled to Copenhagen. I just went to buy plates and go to the city and like for inspiration, and then at a time point there's a fire from I can't remember the name, a booking company that he sends me five pages that I don't open. Okay, they're actually in a bunker. And then I had a lot at that time every year, january and February I didn't work there. Then I thought, what am I going to do next year? What is my goal?
Speaker 1:Full-time as a gymnast, or what I can't say you've been very, very what is it called Focused on goals. Focused on goals and structured from day to day. Full-time. So, it's never been right like we started out for fun and that's been totally working.
Speaker 2:But at the same time it's also, as you said, that it's passion Full-time. So I've been very confident that I can work with what's my hobby, if you can say that One thing is that I've also been very, very privileged.
Speaker 1:Very privileged. That's what I'm kind of like. I'm a little bit nervous or not nervous, but I'm very impressed that you're so focused on the start. For me, I have full-time will with music, but it's just joy to play music and not so much the other way around. I'm not focused on being a job. It sounds like you've done it as a career or something from the start.
Speaker 2:I think that you get older and then you start to think about what it is and why you do it. And I think that the fantastic vibe I've had with my cousins and we just got excited and heard all this cool music and at the same time I'm being addressed by my parents and you don't have to ask too much, just go out and experience something and come back and if you get a touch you can ask can it be that we can answer why you got a touch or something else? And then I think that I've been very, very privileged because my father has been the most around the world and worked as a machine master in his very early years in large-scale like master's boards and so on, and I can remember because you start, you get older, you start to think about why I'm, the shape I am why I'm the background and then I can remember and then I think about my father and he's a little town where he lived and he lived 8,000 years ago in Omrein.
Speaker 2:And when he was living there, there was a little town called Unsil which has about I don't know 508,000 buildings. And then my father says it's Sunday, it's the fast of the law, there's a competition in Unsil about who's the best dresser, and then we go out and see what I can wear. So you have to think about what he does, and I think there are 12 words or something. He wears a leather dress, he wears a lady on his back, he wears a lady's skirt, he wears what's it called? What's it called? A net-dress, high-heeled shoes and with his little son out to this little town where there are 800 people living.
Speaker 2:And he's still up and he wins, and that's what you can say, that this is all part of it. You don't have to be afraid to be the one you are, or it's okay to go to the ladies' party, or it's okay to be homosexual, or whatever you can say which has been the last type of time you've been through.
Speaker 1:It's been fantastic.
Speaker 2:He's a father, he's a father, he's a father, he's a father. He's going completely against all the rules of the city. But you do that yourself still. Yes, but it's like there's things to think about and that has to be a real turning point for me when I think okay, that's okay.
Speaker 1:Yes okay for you.
Speaker 2:And what's it called? Do you give it any problems to go back? No, I don't think so. My father has probably talked about it, but my father has just been happy. He just said it was just fun and that's what I wanted to see at that point I'm used to it.
Speaker 1:I think it could give some problems for the 12-year-old drink he's had.
Speaker 2:No, because I was in the.
Speaker 1:US. I knew it was bad, I just said I was just sitting in the car, you had something different. I think my father didn't do that.
Speaker 2:But then what's it called? The books that are sent from the book in København and actually there's probably someone who remembers there was a TV series called Stripper Kongens Pia with the prince who was the stripper king, exactly, the stripper king sends these books to me and he is a completely formidable DJ with some rather mysterious parties Friday after the day in the city of København. There are different podcasts about it. He came from the DJ world and was Danish. He wrote to me like this and opened it up and then he would like to have rings for him and then he would like to have them in his stable because he heard about me in København and I had a good reputation at that point as a DJ in København. So I can remember going in and calling down on Silkeborg in a blue. What's it called?
Speaker 1:Telephone box.
Speaker 2:That was the case. And then we talk together and it's good that you can't hear it that much now, but at that point I had a very light dialect that you might not always understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:And it can be good now. Yes, it's better now.
Speaker 2:But what's it called? And he says as a nom, but where would you like to play? And then I tell him there's only one place I want to play. It's on the Dattys in København. It's Scandinavian's biggest club. And then he says you'll never get that, okay. And then I say you know what? We just don't have to talk together. And it's just, I'm totally cold and very, very goal-oriented. And then he says I think in the press we don't need to talk anymore. So it's just like that. And then we stop talking. Then you go, I think half a word or something like that. Then there's a new letter from the press.
Speaker 2:And I let it go. I think a few pieces there, and then I call him and then he says yes, I know you'd like to play on the Dattys, but I don't know you and I don't know if you can explain it, but you sound very goal-oriented and you'd like to do this.
Speaker 1:And the way. I don't know if I was, but that's what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:And then he says but now I've got a job for you in April of 1983, you're going to get an offer. You're going to play on the Dattys in a month. Wow, and at that point there had never been any of them in a Danish DJ on the Dattys. And that was, if you look back, it was the biggest club in Scandinavia, the only place where there was a real club and a real discotheque. Also, regarding Stockholm, oslo and so on, and I remember, I remember I was 2 years old, from Silkeborg, Some record boxes you had that time and I was half-murdered.
Speaker 2:You'd left 40 kilos or 60 kilos of those records. That was completely insane. And then I remember, I remember I got them all and at that point I had a hard-to-get record and I was going all the way down and almost down to the bottom of the nose and then I went up and I got all the records and then Jesper Lundqvist, who is a brother of his brother, john of the Dattys, and then he says welcome, kenneth. And then I say we're going to get it done.
Speaker 2:Then they got scared he was so scared that this Jewish pot, just like in a different way, would come in and lay down his place. And it belongs to the story that at that point some of the greatest stars who at that time were Line 3, and actors, they all hung out on the Dattys and at least it was some Jesper's friends and I can say in his perspective there is a Jew who is not that old and speaks Jewish, and maybe Line is the one who comes in normally, but maybe it's not just what's nice about his name. So he calls Prében and then he says he's there, he doesn't stay for a week, and then they wet him. They wet him with a bottle of whiskey and Prében says he's going to have to believe that he's got a chance to do that.
Speaker 2:He can't say you're right. So he says we wet him with a bottle of whiskey and if that's the case he'll get a lower bill. And then I start a meeting and I get up in this pool and get my set up and then I remember I get to play some plays and there aren't many people and then I start speaking English. Yes, I played, I remember Fonkin for Jamaica with Tom Brown and then I had I said you're a funky clown, tom Brown, he's back in town. A total bullshit it was completely unmanly.
Speaker 1:why did you do that? Yes, completely unmanly, it was just totally bad, totally bad.
Speaker 2:And then what's the name of it? And then another thing now that you're talking about that I was like so focused is also doing very, very early, back from around 80. Yes, every time I was out playing I took over myself. Yes, and then I found out very, very early that I would have if I had some sense. It would be very, very ambitious. If I had, I would have played these cassettes Many years later. All the music I played could be in there. It couldn't be made flat, timeless.
Speaker 1:Not timeless, but it could be quality in those numbers.
Speaker 2:So I'm up to it. I remember that the inspector, nils, who was also called King Kong, came up to me and said it's Tom Brown there. Kenneth, there's a fight on the microphone. It's going to be a big fight and I thought about it. I don't think I should say that much.
Speaker 1:I'm in a fight.
Speaker 2:He's a teacher. I don't know if he's two meters or more than that. I'm at least a dog that's three times as big as mine. It's going to be so peaceful and it's going to be more like New York disco, according to a term called Paradise Garage. I knew everything about that time because I had bought this record, but it was only a week, so I knew everything was going to be fine.
Speaker 2:You know everything about that time and what happens is that it's going to be a mess. And I knew it was a big day because I had been on the internet once and I was messing around with a really good friend, benny from Brönbyn. Benny from Brönbyn. I had a little brother who got the first in the world many years later, who started to see the kids who are watching the record and scratching Ken the Duke and Benny. If I loved rap records and in the whole thing what you call New Wave Danes or Club the music of the club, and that month in April I lived out here in Hamm at Hamm on a mattress in Gulle, and I knew just like what you were going to play there, because I bought all the same records.
Speaker 1:And you had done research in the world to see where the records were.
Speaker 2:I went up to the pool and at 8.11. And around 12. There was a guy coming up and looking at me. I think he was going to wish something. He was just looking at me and then he just threw me the big clean piece. And then I thought, okay, welcome Kenneth, welcome to the world.
Speaker 1:And then he found out about it.
Speaker 2:So I thought you get super bored of it and you get sick and think I'm going to show you. And then what's called? Then it's filled up and there are lords on the record that it's the place where the 16 to 19, 20 years old come and they are really into the music. What's called it? At this point they both dress like New Bromale. Everyone goes to the big stage with makeup, beer and drink Women, like some of them from a Goth or an emu or Susie and the Banshees, and all the four of them are in leather or, like some of them, from a rock-like band or like A lot of Blitz.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's completely the same.
Speaker 2:There is no difference. Blitz is a very well known club that was started in London by a DJ called Rusty Egan, who was the first world to start playing the music at the club, and his partner was a famous Steve Strange, and you can see a really good comment on Netflix. I think it's pretty good. It's pretty good. But it's not a fun thing.
Speaker 1:On YouTube there is a word about a boy, kenneth Rönden. He is with Boy George, who is involved in the same thing.
Speaker 2:It's pretty cool. So if you are really curious you can check it out, and at that point I would have never known. If I remember the Steve Strange club Rusty Egan had in London, they were back from Blitz to something called Camping Palace. There were 3,000 people each. I think it was one of the 10 biggest boys it was insane.
Speaker 2:I remember the first time I was there, there was Africa Bombardier. I got the picture with him. I was like I want to fuck him there. He is my friend now and you heard Rusty Egan playing. It was the same thing they played on the day. Now we are going back to the club.
Speaker 1:We are going back to the club.
Speaker 2:I was playing in my head and I was playing until 3.30 am All the music they knew and they knew what it was. And they heard a bell ring and around 5.00 am I said to my light man Karsten, now you turn off all the lights and you could do that, and it's not that hard anymore. And if you try to be at a club where all the lights are turned off, then it creates a completely exciting atmosphere. There is tension, just like in Alfred Hitchcock. And then it just started to be quiet and people started talking about what's happening and what is happening now and two microphones that I didn't have to. And then I just say in Danish Now I'm going to the concert. And then I played in Asu YouTube All kinds of different BBC bootlegs Not bootlegs, but like I had gotten fat in.
Speaker 1:Live updates.
Speaker 2:And that they never heard of, with these idols that they were really crazy about. And it ends with that the lights are turned off, and then we stop at half past eight and then the fire comes up, and then I give my hand and say I have to do everything I can to get it.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:So I play the moon and then after that moon I take the first time to Ibiza in 83. I come down and take the place, because the reason I take the place is because I have Kept the plates at that point in a Plate shop in Glovestrupp which is called Manhattan. Yes, it was inspired by the Trummes teacher from the old walkers Okay, and he loved club music and he was also part of a band, like a lot of these new Copenhagen DJs, diggers, old Danish music, my band called Boulevard. And he says to me one day Knit, I have just been on Ibiza, it is 100 percent you, there you go, listen.
Speaker 2:I was at a club there. I saw Roman Polanski and I saw a Rolls Royce being driven into a swimming pool. It is 100 percent you. And they play the most fantastic music Full-time in this we are selling. And then I thought about it, it must be the next day after the date. And I say to a veneer from Silkeborg we get bought a hand, we take to Ibiza, and I can remember that we are in the middle of the night. We live in San Antonio, I get sunbathing the first day.
Speaker 1:And you go and I had to give up.
Speaker 2:We had to be laid down like Gammon Insprutting. I slept for 24 hours, my body was in a trance and it was completely empty, but I didn't know better. I will see a lot of this transsexual environment in San Antonio, because it was there that time, and I will see Ibiza city Up in the old city and I see a lot of interesting people and I get to hear the same music I have played. I hang out with a time point with a lot of Englishmen and we come in at a club which is in San Antonio At that time it was Playboy 2.
Speaker 2:And there is the local DJ playing and there is the whole group and there is 8th Dancer and then these Englishmen I hang out with all night and they say we will go up and talk to him. He is a DJ from Denmark, and so it ends with me In a way. They get the details. I am a DJ and I have to play a half hour, so I play and then Pubicum and without a set. I remember Keltolstrup Westin Peace. He once said if there is anyone who can play, dancer, and that is what happens, it is not always the research you have done.
Speaker 2:You have read the DJ for 11 years.
Speaker 2:Yes, it is for 11 years. But I think I know Englishmen have tradition for the motor. So I just watch all of them play, after some motor and some Dino Ross, and I get to start playing all kinds of motor and I fill Dancer in the course of 3 numbers. So there is a lot of parties and people, groups and schools and it ends with Eijern saying do you want to be in summer? Okay, and I just think, yes, maybe. I don't know, I will start with you. And then it ends with me. I come to Denmark, I travel home and at that point there is Jesper Lundqvist from Datis. He contacted Preben and said we need to get to know each other, we can't ignore him. And at the same time he had this great offer from Ibiza. And then I remember I don't know if I should delete it, but it was.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to delete anything, we're just going to run it out, but I can remember, but I'm looking forward to it now.
Speaker 2:I can remember that on the day I was supposed to have been hired and that something was not being handled properly, and then I thought, maybe in a very good position and they want me, so now I'm supporting them here at the Sødebarts Center. And then I said, if you do, that's about it. But I'm just going to be hired at the Sødebarts Center, but I want to have 18,750 in the monthly salary. We're talking about 19,340. Yes, that's great, then they'll come back.
Speaker 2:You won't get enough, Then they'll come back. You have to remember, I've played five days of the game. Then they'll come back. And then they say we accept all the conditions and we want to have you. Wow. And then and I still have that one You've been a loan shark for a while now, haven't you? Absolutely, it was a big moment for me.
Speaker 1:Yes, it can be too big.
Speaker 2:And then and I don't know why that talk came from, it's just like I thought it sounds very nice.
Speaker 1:It's just like it's fit, it was nothing?
Speaker 2:I actually don't know.
Speaker 1:And are you moving your hair to that point?
Speaker 2:No, they still don't live in Silbo. And then I thought about it. It's like I'm going to Copenhagen and I'm going to be resident DJ on Datis and I don't have a place to live. No, so the first three months I live in a bedroom in Datis and sleep. When I'm done playing, yes. And then you think about it why do I do that? But then the only thing I can say is I want it Exactly. I see that there's nothing. This is what I want.
Speaker 1:And it sounds like you've already wanted it from the time you were born.
Speaker 2:And then I remember the worst thing was that there was a phone call in Datis that sometimes I played at 5 o'clock on the day of the birthday, when everything was hanging out in the public room, I went to the wedding place, bought the politics, the wedding. Was there any ladies? Yes, and then I sat up until 1 o'clock, 9, 10 pieces and called these boys and then I had to go out and see. It was completely mega hard. Yes, that's what.
Speaker 2:I thought, and then I found a place. I will live in Fritzberg, not directly in the neighborhood, but I live in number 68, and Paul's apartment in number 66. Okay, so that's what I mean.
Speaker 1:I will come to you and take good morning, and you know to have these people.
Speaker 2:when I say hi, and it was very, very sick, they came to Datis didn't they. No, they didn't, but it was just a really sick experience. And then, at that point, there is a sheet which is made of a, a kind of a chemical that had a place called heat records inside the cathartic tract. Yes, and he, I can remember that he bought them.
Speaker 1:So he was kind of like out of the window almost by himself. No, it was not possible.
Speaker 2:If you could, it could be what he did, but I was so lucky I could at least get into his apartment.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean. It was in his own apartment that he was sold. Yes, because that's what I heard about him.
Speaker 2:And he just went. He went with the news and that was his full-time job, and then he bought the sheets for money and sold them to us.
Speaker 1:So you have a little history with the news and then the sheets were sold, but he had a lot of news routes.
Speaker 2:I can't remember he had so many money on the news that it was a bit of a waste, but I can remember that there I buy, among other things, grahamus and Flas, the Adventures of Steel, which is a completely iconic classic today. Yes, and why did you come up with that? I just want to say.
Speaker 1:I've heard a story about him that Carlos Péter, who was called Street Dance, that it's also iconic for him. Yes, yes, he's playing in what's it called? There's a gay and lesbian bar in Pésren. Was it Péter that time? No, it was not. Did Péter play on Péter? Yes, he also played on Péter, which is a Seattle motel today?
Speaker 2:Yes, good, and what is there with? Yes, we can turn back to that, but it all depends on a different fun way. But yes, I play on dates, say half a year, and decide to get together with my dear. We travel out of Europe and I will play with. We are in a time-time space and I can remember that I just on a different way.
Speaker 2:We have bought something quite cool and we have a lot of favorite toys and we ask ourselves is there any place here that can be? We can go to the city and then I say there it is. Then we get a flyer, we drive out to the address at night and there it's just a tank station and then we keep in the folk-vote room which my father had updated and built so we could drive around, and then we simply don't understand where the nightclub should be. Then the clock starts to get 11, people start to come and then where you normally repair cars and we all know that or where you can get a car wash, then people just go in and then they go down in the earth and there is the nightclub. Okay, and essentially. So we come in and it shows that DJ is a guy called Marco Trani, who is a legendary Italian DJ who is no longer with me, who is, among other things, the remixed Mike Francis and so on, and then I get to play with him in one way or another. Yes, again.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know how but I just hope that it's been a lot of fun.
Speaker 1:Yes, but that's the thing.
Speaker 2:And then so that's a big experience. And today I still have, of course, the cassette tape where we play together, when he plays the Franco and Features of Love and DJ Z, which I at that point certainly didn't know, but I'm very happy with it, and so you're a big balleric classic today. That's what you have to say. And then I come back and play on the data again, and at that point I start and I go back a little bit to about 43 again.
Speaker 1:Yes, that was 55, 46. And then we go a little forward.
Speaker 2:Yes, and then in 43, there will be only one week left from the record companies CBS, which today is Sony. He comes with the pro-mortem Michael Jackson and what there was. Now I'm sure.
Speaker 2:One day he comes with the cassette tape and it's completely wild and it's a band called TV2. Yes, and I can play that well, together with all the other new wave and funk and reggae and whatever I play now, and it's Pop Music's way with TV2, which is going to be a huge hit around the fall of the fall of the fall. Yes, Because there are 10, or rather 1,200 people here. And then he comes in one day and says Jörn from CBS, we have to make a maxi single. Yes, that's a lot, something you have to do. We also have to be involved.
Speaker 1:Yes, you didn't want to have that in Denmark. You didn't have that and you never had to make it.
Speaker 2:No, and then I say there is tradition that there are a lot of Americans and Frank Swark, kevorkian, larry Leban and what they now call the different Shepetti-Bones they make a lot of remix. Yes, so I know at least what are some of the ingredients and what are they, they just have to have. And then he says to me, yes, but it's. I think the studio we have to know is a very small studio and where I would like to be, then you can't come with me, of course, because it's not that big and you know I don't have any budget and you know there are many things in the way. Yes, I know that this studio is going to be made and I, I live in Frucksberg and I find out that Sony or CBS is out in Valby at the time. Yes, or whatever it was. So I take the buzzer out and then before that I called a guy called Jandena.
Speaker 2:Yes who has signed TV2. I had got him there, jörn, it was like him and it was him who should have made the Maxis single. And I call him and he has always met. Yes, he comes out and, completely naive, and I just sit and wait and then they say, now you can go up, and you know he's gone to meet. But I get to go up and I sit and wait for a while and there goes a long time, yes, and then there's one that says, bas, what are you doing here? Yes, what are you doing here? I would like to talk to Jandena because I have something to say about the Man's Initiative 2. And then Jandena comes out and it shows that he's not in the meeting. No, so there was probably just some.
Speaker 1:With such a foregoat on a sheet. That time it was for sure.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I come in there meeting with Jandena, and Jörn is there too, and then I say I want to hear from Jandena what it is called. If you want to make the Maxis single, then you have to do something like that. And then I had prepared the cassette tape where I played, among other things, I remember Confusion, what is it called, new Order, no, and so on and so forth, a lot of different drum sounds, and one of them where I said this is what you should do, yes, so Jandena, it's just like he had got one of the other, a so star, and the eyes were running around in his head. He said I don't understand what you're saying. No, and in all the terms you're going through I try to hear we will have to take you with us in the studio. So I say yes, but the studio is so small. It can be like that. You just come in the studio. He says, then I come out. It's so sweet silence.
Speaker 1:So you're not so small then.
Speaker 2:It's not so small. There could be 20 people sitting in the studio, I could just press you in and we then have to make Pop Music, which at that point then comes out, and then it becomes the best single song of the year. The song itself is more than what's it called in the 12th grade, at least more than Billy Jean with Michael Jackson, and that's the TV2-broadcast. And it starts, you can say, my more or less musical entrance to the record industry. And then I start to be the DJ that goes around to record companies with that leadership in hand, and I try to do the same as I can. We have to make a mix for the clubs. We have to have Danish music to be played on the clubs or on the discotheques in Denmark.
Speaker 2:And it takes some other versions than the one that fits the radio and so it's a form of pioneer work, because all those different record companies they don't know what they're talking about. They were just so happy they just had to sell some radio hits Exactly.
Speaker 2:And that's also fair enough, I understand that, but I have to go. Sometimes you have to have 20 meetings to make an end to it. And I can remember at a time there was a guy from Mettli, mikael Rito, and he says the same thing, identical to Jandén. I'm not fucking with you, what are you talking about? You have to go to the studio and then I do, in the 80s, a lot of Mikael Falke, lars Huck and I can remember, with all the Sant Sane months and all kinds of remixes, and it gets really nice. And that leads to that.
Speaker 2:Now we're running up to 85, 86, there's a guy from the day who's got a new light. His name is Jack Rode and he and I we have in one way a curiosity to make a crazy land. So we have made a party called Amok down in a low-key biograph, down on Vesterbruckeade in the Indereyke Høppenhavn. And if you imagine that we get pop-clad dyrmen they like some from a movie Stanley Kubrick's Clockwork Orange we get filled toilets and so much up with Fetter B, all light toys. So when you went in on the toilet you got up. So when you sat down and if you were going to make a big one, then you were a vandrack.
Speaker 2:Then you were a vandrack, which I can do, a good way to do it, and we, we we then the air with what was it called a pushy dildo-dug and we one of us got a fantastic idea to get 10, great attack poses popcorn with oil in. On the Danish side you're doing at least falls. It was absolutely to do a clean thing, and I also said people couldn't really dance and we got a talk with the local boxing club that they came and boxed all night.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's a ring set up in the middle also.
Speaker 2:I think exactly and on each then I was in the pool in front of the biographies and on the biographies we showed pass pass piers with Jack Passer, legendary Danish comedian comic, and he drove with the back of his head. Okay, and on the head, yes, it's really there. And then on each side we had some construction designers, since the DJ pool I don't know, we're going to talk five, six meters high. Then we had, through the press, I had called them and said we have to make, we have to have this vibe of.
Speaker 2:There's a club in New York called Aria, a place where very, very well-known artists hold to Grace Jones, Andy Warhol, keith Haring, basque were some of them who were in the inner-crisis, who were involved in the, the idea of how the club should look, yes, so it was something of inspiration. And then they said we have to have some men who are super delicious, they have to rub in oil. We have to have some women who are made with dildos and we get that on those stylists. And then it becomes a big viral of all kinds and it comes to the name of Mock and we hang a layer on one side, four large layers that are Mock, and then we make it on the other side. Then there is Kuma with K yes, and then I take to Ibiza, which I do every year, and in 1987, then we make a that comes home from Ibiza and I can't say why, but that year it was just the best year of the year.
Speaker 1:And it's the asset house and the music the asset house actually starts in in 1956, and then, but it's at least for everyone who is in the early?
Speaker 2:1970s. And then what was it called? There was a, a plate in the pizzerain, that. Or in the song, what was it called? Peter Strade that? Or what was it called Westergaard?
Speaker 1:Yes, Westergaard.
Speaker 2:Yes, westergaard, there was, there was, there was a low street dance and they they were imported. I can remember I bought the first house plates with GM silk and and it we play. Then we make a private festival where in 1987, in 1987, we import 200 piers and everyone comes out and looks completely naked out in the woods. Then I take together with some different, we take a look at Bitta in the four years, eight piers, and meet and then I met Pitong and all kinds of differences. Which is a? Pitong is a, a radio DJ on BBC which has had a radio program in many, many years which plays not electric or club music in the whole thing Not by name by name, by name by name.
Speaker 2:Then I met him many times and knew his record company and so on and had taken over together with my good friend Kurt and Kurt was one of them, hammer, meyer, one of them, tony. We made that festival in 1987, then I took Bitta in 1988, met the whole thing hold of England, and then I take it back and the vibe that was like it was before the clubs started that summer and it was like the start of the summer of love. And I take, we take England and there opens a club, it's called Spectrum, which opens on Monday and first week there was not a second week where there was twice as many. Third week was the whole thing and we open in Lorry in the 20th of August 1988, up for the first Koma festival and there will be about 500 people and I can remember that in the first two hours we play all kinds of plays.
Speaker 2:On the 33rd it sounds like something full of space music and the drum and and then at 1 o'clock we turn on the lights and it's so much noise that when you get out you can't see. And then we turn on the lights and then I started Martin Luther King's speech or speech. I have a dream and under it, I faded out acid tracks in with a band that had a future. And or when it happens, even if you can't see anything, you cry and cry.
Speaker 1:It's all exploded.
Speaker 2:And I can still get good views just talking about it. Then it happens that you don't know, but you are aware of what it is. What can you say? A Danish revolution starts that can lead us all the way to Swedish House Mafe, because David Gelt has big games on the stadiums and so on. But it's joy. It's the same in relation to the fact that it's a long-term arm of disco music 100%.
Speaker 1:and then you have to say that you have been a great inspirator to start with, to make parties because of Koma parties and things like that and what we hear and see, and it's a part of moving the boundaries of this home to club music. I mean, I think there might have been someone after you who had found out about it, but you are the man who finds club music in Denmark.
Speaker 2:in my eyes, yes, and I can say that for those who are bored, there is a it's all made up and it's on SwensTV called Nordic Beat. It's probably for free. It's on a time point and there I get. What is it called? Being the man who introduced club culture and club music and in the whole thing, to the whole Scandinavian.
Speaker 2:But that's the whole thing and of course, they were very annoyed when they turned around because it was something Swedish and Nordic men like saying Hamda, ham, we have to come with you because Hamda was the one.
Speaker 1:And that's known because we I mean every two months since you held the Koma party last. It still exists 30 years after, or 35 years after right. I'm good at talking about it because you know you're looking at the clock.
Speaker 2:How long have you been doing it. We can just buy it.
Speaker 1:I think it's nice enough that when you were the first to make an extended 12-tomper, we also made an extended post-cast with you, so it fits me very well. I think it fits me very well, but I'm really interested in hearing about it, because now the parties are a big part of it and the whole DJ thing is, and then you start with these remixes, but you also start with a record company. Yes, and that's what happens.
Speaker 2:It's very early, like with the parties right, yes, but that's what happens. And what happens is that I, in Virgin, I work on CBS. I come to work on CBS because of TV2. I get involved in something that's in the blood where I scratch and feel bad about it.
Speaker 1:We have it Exactly, it's all in the other way around.
Speaker 2:And then Virgin starts in Denmark, a record company called Virgin, which at the time was water-free and anarchist. And then a woman comes in. Henriette Blix, who has been a media director, was press secretary for the first years of the Roskilde Festival. She's a great musician. She started a booking company, pth a real pioneer in Danish music. She must help you with your music for Dreams too.
Speaker 2:Yes, but she comes to me and says we need to have a meeting and she says what are you doing there on CBS? She says I'm doing this and that and you say why don't you do it over at Virgin? We need someone like you. I say, what can we get? We can give you 1800. No, we can give you 50 albums a month. A little bit more. It's fine, glaster, just come at once, because then you could go down in the record shop with the new and new and buy something new, because it was just for them and they knew each other in the front, because you buy many records in the front. So that was my salary at the beginning and I think I've been a good promoter for 2-3 years in a row and I'm involved in trying to get all the Danish DJs under one hat, to be accepted more and take more care of them.
Speaker 2:And in 1987, 1988, there was a mix of all these different records and then we made a coma and it exploded completely. We made nine festivals and it exploded as a young culture, so much so that Rannas, herning, roskilde, kambor and Olborg made coma festivals. And then we looked at each other and started making coma. All this we want it will be fully commercialized. And then it was me who said let's stop while the line is good, because then it will get a good legacy. Then it gets messy because we have only done the good and it's anarchist.
Speaker 2:And we started coma that time because there was a place in the city called Cafe Victor and there was a Yubi culture where it was about having the best jacket set. It was about buying a bottle of their credit card and then we made it. This is about dancing or writing, and it's about coming and sweating and just listening to cool music and being free. There were a lot of young people who were interested in rap, hip-hop and who also came on dates and danced boogie and breakdance and so on and who came on dates. So it was like everyone felt this young culture. We were a part of coma and then we made it so that we were part of all the members and we made two things. One was that we could really make a batch and when you were out dancing in the city, even if you didn't see each other, you knew that you had a batch, so you were in coma.
Speaker 2:And then people went to talk to each other, and it wasn't because it was going to be a little bit of a joke, but it was just so that when you have been there you could talk to each other. And then we experimented with everything possible, where we made a medium jacket and you could come in on certain days and experiment with theme parties. That went really bad. It gave people the opportunity to have a freedom.
Speaker 1:But it also didn't work out. It didn't work out.
Speaker 2:And we made, I think, almost the first Danish club festival, or what you could call a Danish festival, where we made two Easter Fried Lötter in Lorry and we made the book Tott Terri and we made the book Cold Cut and the same day and Race, and I can't remember them all. There were at least a lot of them.
Speaker 1:And then we were around the age of 99, and we got to the point where it was all about this strange coma.
Speaker 2:What is it about? And at the time the interest was in the age of 49, that Peter from Street Dance, this shop. He came into a festival where I can remember that there were so many people out there in Lorry that now we're talking about a thousand people out there in Lorry who wanted to go to the festival but they couldn't have been there or came in. And they came in and you had to have an invitation and you had to be there and you had to be there. And then I remember that there was a girl who was called in the kitchen because she had been pressed and I was standing in the door and she just came in and then she fell down and I just fell down.
Speaker 2:And then I remember thinking this is not cool. This is a bit. It's a bit ridiculous. It's not like you'd think it would be like this. And then she says what the hell are you doing? I don't control the shit on that door. We didn't know it would go that far and I said I'll come in while I'm digging up the roof to dig through a window in the roof.
Speaker 1:Or I would never come in, but it was the rape culture for the hell of a start With unloving parties and things like that. It was the start of all of that.
Speaker 2:And I can remember the next festival we made and the pressure was so big that a door I don't know was 12 centimeters. That was a cut Shit man and it just went in two parts.
Speaker 1:But they have been totally banned from the parties. They know I still live in Selya, where I was a little while ago and I actually play on Budista in 1978, 1989. And we started playing this song in Selya where we, because we were inspired by it, and we got this T-shirt. I think we got it sent around in some promotion.
Speaker 2:But that's in the 90s. That's probably the first time we've seen it.
Speaker 1:But I can just remember when Inociti came in and all those things when we started playing and people were going crazy. But the old people who came to Budista they didn't think it was that cool. But there started something in the year of 1989, where new cultures started with that kind of music and that kind of festivals. And we started a good friend of mine, Alan Henriksten, who later made radio and made the local radio we started copying this, of course in less form, but because we were inspired by it, that you're doing it with your own energy, right? Yes, so it spreads everywhere.
Speaker 2:Exactly and in the same way it ends up with. It's heard at the same time. But when all this happens, bitsa takes several times during the summer and I would say maybe I'm a bit of a ruffian because I'm in the middle of some of these big clubs and, as they say, I don't have to play.
Speaker 1:And then you don't get to play.
Speaker 2:No, but it must have been insane. But then you can say that time there was the same DJ at each club. That didn't come new every time or every day, so they also knew me. What I stood for. I can just remember. I've always thought I can play better than you. I don't know if I thought, but in any case I had to go into the mega-gas to get people to dance in the video.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I came in the same way. I came in with Lyume and I was in one place and then over with the others, and then I just got two records and the last time I saw it, I got stuck in the game and the same year, I think I could do it better than the others.
Speaker 2:But it also means that in 1989, there was a lot going on in England Asit House, the stage is full of power and there are different parties, and I'm the only, I think, with Alfredo from Ibiza and the only two DJs who get to play at Spectrum and some of these different clubs, asit House clubs in London, and because there were like three or four clubs. There was Amnesia on Ibiza and Partia and Koma in Denmark and then there was the trip and Spectrum and what they now called the different clubs in London and it was like a big deal for this style. And then you were one of those, one of those gangs or one of the holders, and I can remember that it was absolutely fantastic that you could travel from country to country and play and have the same energy. It was the same universal language. And then I can remember, in relation to when you talk about the pioneer, you didn't know what you were doing. You came up with both short-fades, souljocks, all these things that they did in the company. They printed their own vinyl, made their own hip-hop songs and so on and so on. You didn't know why you did it, you just did it because you had passion for it and you thought it was the right thing to do, and I can remember that in the company there is MCI and I am from the company, what is it called?
Speaker 2:Cbs? And then there is a fire and it is called Lars T1, the cassette band, and I had made a collection where all the DJs would come in and get a cup of coffee or a cup of tea or some kind of oil and we would talk about the record and what has happened in the city. Then I came with the cassette band and I think it was fantastic and it was a demo for their first album, for English or what. And then we do that and I don't think we can sign this on Virgin. We don't have a super Danish version.
Speaker 2:That is, there is this, and then we try to send it to all the other Danish companies. I will do it, I will send it to all of them. There is no answer. And then I think that this is too good, they just have to go to the store. And then I talk with Henriette Blicks at the time my boss from Denmark, from Virgin, that there should be a company festival for Virgin, and then it will be Scandinavian, they act for Stockholm, come down, and then Henriette and I plan to drink other things from Stockholm Full and when he was full I would play these demos for him.
Speaker 2:So he was interested, so I play. He is full and I play these demos. He says if you think so, then I will do it. Then I will try it and we will do it, and at that point then of course, rockersby Choice will be the breakthrough and it will be my first you have to say record where I make a whole album and what is it called? And we ourselves, I think 35,000 albums that time. There are still not many of them today and with the subculture it was.
Speaker 1:It has been completely interesting.
Speaker 2:There were a few more of them at that point and Rockersby Choice was more of a victory from Ammar and a little Beastie Boys-like and so on. It was a little more white.
Speaker 1:Yes, it was also because they were much more.
Speaker 2:Beastie Boys-like. And you can say that at the same time there is a club in London on Sunday which has Jazz E B in I can't remember the name Atlanta Center, where they are playing solo. And I find out because I have traveled, because I am. We are friends of these three, the best words in the world. In Denmark they hear about the office in London and I am then invited to London. One of the members of Möving and he also works for me, my first DJ job in London, and he is my friend. He starts in the year 1987, and I think he travels to London 23 times. He's there. We have to have him. He has energy, we have to be there.
Speaker 2:I will get to know London's nightlife because I'm out all the time and very early on I meet a woman who is a manager for a Human Services Division in Amsterdam iLikeybo's that and she's the type of person who knows a bunch of 빵ies, fruits and just some HOLIDAY Stuff Six pistols. She knows Dran, dran Biluiz Somme all kinds of different things. Some of them make her a title for them on Sunday, and I was there for Silkevore and I said I would use it to see it all the way in front of you.
Speaker 2:And at the same time there was something I also gave up or was involved in promoting the Virgin in Denmark. I think it's called Pil. Probably to give my limits, I get permission to make a remix of Pil by Luzens and I try a lot of things. I also make Gladys Nightingale and the Pips number from MCA and what's it called. I come more and more into this production and it's the one I make. It's Rockers by Joyce. I make the solo. They have the record shop and the toy shop and I also think I should make a record company. Why shouldn't I?
Speaker 2:Now I'm at the Virgin and I start telling this idea to Henriette and she says I think it's going to be a little too much. I don't think we are the right places to be because we are not independent enough. I'm not sure we can be loud enough in relation to making dance music, but I think you should talk to a fireman. He's called Kelvynik. He has a record company that has mega records. I made a demo on Chaos with a band called Lasso. We are called Dr Anna Baker and the week after we made this song we made the new age orchestra Last Dreams and we made the opposite of Chaos. Chaos is an aggressive dance number. I made a deal with a record company called Kuma Records. After the club and Chaos Explode, it's going to be I think it's going to be in England, 65,000 or something like that. Or we're going to be able to sell 108,000 venues on the world stage and we're going to be in the same management as Dr Baker, the KLF and which is big at the same time right.
Speaker 2:Which is, at that point, the world's biggest band?
Speaker 1:You can say that well, which is also a cool documentary.
Speaker 2:I want to say that and I'm going to be close to the life of the KLF and to start this label and follow them closely, because we had the same management and I'm giving out, we're giving out Chaos and that makes it possible to play some times on Ibiza, just suddenly. I played on all the clubs, on Partia Amnesia all the time and we've been up to live with Dr Baker on the space and everything possible to play. We were once, I think once we were in the elevators in Denmark, but we were 13 times on 18 months on Spans TV.
Speaker 2:So we were really strong in Spain.
Speaker 1:But we still talk about underground, even though it's yes, but it was pop.
Speaker 2:In a different way. What was it called Pop music in Spain? And we were still going, even though it was underground. I think the whole culture around it was. There was still chaos going on on the official hit list, which was the time. After what you're now doing over the album, then we're number five.
Speaker 1:But it's still important to open the music here, as I personally think, because it's not something we're familiar with or there's Danish dance numbers. In that way, there's Chaos a mile away in Danish club music, can you say?
Speaker 2:Yes, that's what we're saying, and it also ends with the fact that it's been sampled. Now we're talking about the North America, that Josh Wink, tott, terry and Future Sound of London and the same, but I don't know what and David Morales has used it in the top ten hits. So it shouldn't be a lie, and I've never written any money because I've sampled it myself.
Speaker 1:That's what you're doing, so it's not good. No, it's not good. Just wait for the other one to come back. You said, and you said that you've done something more laid-back. It's been a great hit again in the record collection.
Speaker 2:But it wasn't a hit that we made. The funny thing is we made Chaos and I can remember clearly that we printed this called 50 White Labels, which is a test press or a press of a vinyl before the official release, and we send it to all DJs. There are five who want to come back and say they want to play the other five but they don't want to play. That's not good. But the five do, so that they're played on Ibiza and there are a lot of English people coming down and listening to it. They take it to England so we get permission to go out to England and come on tour in England At the same time. I've been in London many times and it's been there since the year 2080, and this has been streamed together with the New Age Orchestra and it's given to all the possible bands, like George, and he says if you want to make a vocal version, you'll like to sing on it. He really liked it and he was the only one who liked it. There was no other one who liked it.
Speaker 1:I can't remember that time, but I had to be out there and pay dearly to get it done in the New Age. I think it's young Marco. He started playing it when he was a kid.
Speaker 2:DJ from Holland who in some way finds it, and there are others who, also from the same, from a record shop called Red Light Records specializes in finding old, what should you say quality records that are not updated. And then they are known, and then they spread themselves, I myself have them, and they spread these different records.
Speaker 1:They are called digging, but you dig well after some gold, and you have to say that it has been a great adventure in the places I have played and such things here for a few years, since it was so Quite exciting to find a record like this. I don't know it. I think I've seen everything that came out on good but the one I've played.
Speaker 2:I didn't know it before. It was not an official release because we gave it up and released it.
Speaker 1:There was no one to like it.
Speaker 2:No, it was really cool, so that was just like it.
Speaker 1:And how did you know that Ibiza will be a? I think when you hear it, it will be a great destination, both in you, but also in that music. You will release it both personally and also on your record companies. It is very relevant for you the island? Is it because you are so much? Is it because you meet other people down there? Or is it because you are completely back from 99 years old and have been interested in something so different?
Speaker 2:If I say that I came to Ibiza the first time in 3-4 years, then I will be opposed to open arms and I think that is the island, the surrounding colors, the surrounding colors, just as much as you are, and I think that you can say everything, that it is different and that there are VIP cultures, and now there is one, now there is another, but the island, just as much as it is commercially, then there will always be. It is the island that keeps a gang of people. There will always be one country, so there is a dog.
Speaker 1:Here, there is a dog, yes, that's nice, there is a dog. I'm exaggerating.
Speaker 2:As the surrounding colors. There is always a red flag and there is a lot of great stories about how it has developed and how it has developed and that is. I can remember when I was in Ibiza for the first time in 3-4 years, we took a boat from San Antonio to a beach and it could be our own bridge. We just heard that it would be cool. I will meet some Englishmen and one of them is called Vinner. His sister is in a big English base which I played with at the time, and we met the bass player from David Bowie's band. That would never happen.
Speaker 1:It is a new thing where things happen. I was in Ibiza for the first time together with you for 20 years and if I'm going to tell you a thing that happens there, I don't know if you can remember, I can remember there are many things that happen in Ibiza, but I can remember that because it will be introduced to you by Jose Pardelia, a big, legendary DJ from Capital Mare.
Speaker 2:That has started a genre of music that we know today as Chill Out.
Speaker 1:Yes, you have to say that we have a meeting in his house to listen to his songs and I have never seen you full. Actually, I have never seen you full, but that happens this evening for the first time, I think and it ends with you getting married Are we at Amnesia.
Speaker 2:We are at a club called Amnesia. They have a night which is homosexual, as the big, big, big names. It is like their night.
Speaker 1:It is called that.
Speaker 2:And I can remember that I think I have introduced you and some others to a drink called Coca-Cola which comes in a little bit of tension.
Speaker 1:Or some kind of stupid thing.
Speaker 2:But they come because they are pre-made, and then you get champagne glass and in that champagne glass, that time there was a mix of 17 conditions, including heart medicine, and what is it called? Just so you understand it. I met my band, dr Baker, at a legendary club called Q in 1991. And because we were just a band, we were introduced to this Coca-Cola drink, and I think there has been something more in it.
Speaker 1:I can imagine, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Maybe MDMA, I don't know, but we have drunk the whole band, dr Baker and in 40 minutes we all hopped into the Q's swimming club In the middle of the club, before all the people we have met. And what is it called? We are jumping to our 20-year-old day and what is it called? I can't remember. I think I told you that I had drunk 9 of those. I could not remember. The last time I tried to drink it was just a few days before I drank 10. The next day I woke up on the parking lot. I knew the sun was up at 10. I just have my arm in the door to the car and it's open and I just think it stinks. It stinks like hell. I open my eyes and I can see where my head is With the one I hold the door. It's on the clamp, there is just a huge bunk and I can't remember where I broke it. And then you look up in the back or you orient yourself and on the side there is a Danish who has been a world champion at skateboarding.
Speaker 1:Mark and what is it called.
Speaker 2:I look up and behind me is a girl named Karina. She is a very well-known international DJ. She is on the back, but she is lying with her lower part of the body and has white shoes on which is filled with blood. No, no, no, all of her legs. And I think, if there is a Tino movie, I agree with you and I think what? What is going on? It shows that if you drink enough, you can go ahead and get an instruction. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:I think you will learn that day. Yes, yes, and you will learn that day. But something is actually happening at night.
Speaker 2:But you and Rosa Padilla- yes, there is an idea that I am so full-time. I don't know how I got out of that car, but what is happening with him here, dj and Rosa Padilla? The next day we go out to his house again and say hi, and then he says you should see these polo-ed pictures. I'm from yesterday and I'm talking about it. He has polo-ed pictures where I was married to Rosa Padilla. He still has a toy on, but I remember that only one slip on was on. The whole eye was on only with the drops on. And then the other one, the other one, the arm-hold I think, and then it's just that huge club and I can't remember the picture taken.
Speaker 1:There is a cardboard box inside the box which is given to people. I never forget the picture I took at home and you call me at 5.00 am and cut to 12 hours later on our weather forecast. I never think I'm going to throw myself up. I never think I'm going to throw myself up, as I said at the last 12 hours.
Speaker 2:That's also the time I think I'm going to throw myself up, and it was. If we are in it to throw up or drink, I call it top two. And what happens is that I come home to the hotel and I remember I have a phone call with Henriette and I remember I call her and I say to her just a moment. And then I go out and talk to her and what's it called? It's the end of the story. And I say now you have to take her there together and come to the hips. And then I go down and order I think it would be a cloth and order some spaghetti bolognese. I don't know why?
Speaker 1:No, it's not, it would be a lot of cloth.
Speaker 2:So I go down and order it. It's with the older man in the bar and then I go to the toilet and then I come in on the toilet where I can just remember I'm breaking myself on the toilet. Cloth no, no, no, no, no. And it's completely black. And then I come back and say to him the older man, why do you have my remote? Or I say, where will my spaghetti bolognese be? What's it called? Because I think it's like there's been a time now since you were last, so I'm certainly far away. And then he helps me with making some special drinks with I can remember sugar and apples and everything possible which really can be eaten. And I slowly get to the hips and I can remember I couldn't eat anything at night at our hotel. And my friends who also drink, they take a drink in the city and they drink one drink. And then they end up sitting in a car and hearing a cassette tape with a back in six hours and have a fish, and I think we should actually stop here because now.
Speaker 2:We're driving in two hours.
Speaker 1:Yes, but really we're driving in two hours Because it's a long and fantastic story. You have a long journey and I think it's worth it that we talk more about it, but it can be difficult to stop but also to be able to do more. Right now, when you hear that it's actually been over half an hour since I've been looking at the clock, I'm planning to do between 45 and 30 minutes, so I think we should be a little more careful because there's a lot more to know and hear about.
Speaker 2:There are at least 20 or 30 years more to hear about.
Speaker 1:That's what I mean. So let's not say it was a parallel.
Speaker 2:We say thank you for listening and thank you for being interested in it.
Speaker 1:I'm happy because you're happy and I'm looking forward to meeting you again. That's true. Thank you for listening to this episode of the Musaerlokal Podcast, music mid-druck. I hope you've enjoyed the music of the Trillen universe and found inspiration for your own musical journey. If you'd like to listen to today's guest list on the youth number, you can find the list on the Musaerlokal Spotify list on Spotify. I look forward to exploring more aspects of the music's leadership in the upcoming episodes, which can all be found on Spotify and Potty Mode. So until next time, let the music continue to be your most trusted leader. If you'd like to listen to good music, and good music in the real world, you can find Musaerlokal right under the Musaerlokal Nightclub in Lille Kongensgade in the København.