En åben snak med sangerinde Saszeline om hendes passion for musik .
En åben snak med sangerinde Saszeline om hendes passion for musik .
Music. Welcome to the Museo Locale Podcast. My name is Peter Visti and I have been a musician for a lifetime. I have lived my entire life as a musician. In one or another way I am a musician and I have been very young. I have been listening to music during my entire night sleep. I still practice. Music is my passion, my drive, my mood and daily forms. And what changes music? Music has a unique ability to move emotions and connect people in different cultures. My goal is to find out how different people experience love for music and how it varies in their lives. What is the purpose of the new guest? To talk about their relationship to music and how they live and influence music, insect inspiration and, hopefully, some fun and exciting surprises. Welcome to Museo Locale Podcast. Music my drive. Welcome to the Sasseline.
Speaker 3:Thank you, peter.
Speaker 2:You have taken the headphones now. Yes, I should hear your intro. Yes, that is why. Yes, you said something really funny just when we were about to start and it is a slap in the face of how I should present myself, Because you say why the hell do you have the headphones on when we just have to sit and talk?
Speaker 3:I have thought about it several times.
Speaker 2:I know it.
Speaker 3:When we are just sitting and talking. We can just sit over there and talk. But I would also like to say you sit and do a live on tape.
Speaker 2:Yes, then it is understood well.
Speaker 3:Because there will be an intro and then live on tape. It will just drive out of the room and it will be, rewritten yes, but if it is a podcast, where it is just a conversation and the intro is something, they will be cut out. Then it is fun when you sit with headphones on.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I think it was also fun because we also sit over there and talk Exactly.
Speaker 3:But I also mean it in relation to the intro when you say you have had headphones on all the time.
Speaker 2:That is why I don't know how to say it.
Speaker 3:I take them off. I am completely desperate.
Speaker 2:they are always sitting. Yes, so it would be the first time I have food in 57-58 years, right?
Speaker 3:Yes, it can be understood well without your comfort zone.
Speaker 2:Very, very Well, really welcome and I am so glad you are here. You are a person who has had a water-based career, I think musically, I think so myself, and it starts water-based early and then you have just become when I feel that I feel you on Instagram and such things, and we know each other a little bit. So you have been a great active informer. You have been the influencer. You have also used a little bit of the little thing I actually didn't talk about. You also have to like it here, if you will.
Speaker 3:But right now you are well terpøvd it's called yes Psycho terpøvd in three months, then I have used it for almost 4.5 years. Wow, yes.
Speaker 2:And how did all this music start? Can you remember? Yes, is it started now? I'm thinking about you, just with love for music. Is it started at home?
Speaker 3:It started at home. Yes, my mother sang a good night's story. My father played the guitar. Wow. So it was like getting read something up. It was listening to the song. Yes.
Speaker 3:And since I was very little there has always been music in our homes. We have always danced around and heard high music and that has been played. Yes, so I teach maybe one or eight years before my first bass, and have a bass teacher who comes by and he simply likes the white music from Bob Marley and I teach bass, which is my first instrument. So I play the guitar. So we have a room full of instruments and when we have to hight, hang out with friends or react, then you go in with the drum set or in the keyboard or in the the music room in the house where I grew up yes.
Speaker 3:Fantastic you have heard about someone who has a shoe where I stand laid out to the teacher and then they can go and hit them. So it was kind of it was ours in our house it was out of the way.
Speaker 2:It was out of the way, yes, so it was mega cool, yes.
Speaker 3:So, there has always been music. I have stood with a hard-boosted from the violin and sung Whitney Houston and have dreamt of me being a superstar.
Speaker 2:Yes, so it was a dream from the start as a child yes, yes, it was a dream, of course.
Speaker 3:And how did it come about? How did it come about?
Speaker 2:Or how did you come about?
Speaker 3:There are really many from performing on the stage at home as a child to make the old people happy and to get used to standing on a stage, standing on the stage. I have used many summers on the stage every Wednesday on the freeway stage, also with Tommy Seabuck and so on. Really really proud of many camping places and we have made the children's channel with the Søren Panele Panele O-Lond. It was every December where we sang every day in the children's channel. So I just got it in where it has always been, that I was singing.
Speaker 2:And how old is this? How old are you there?
Speaker 3:I'm going to school for people, so it starts there. At eight years old.
Speaker 2:Wow, it's really time to get used to it.
Speaker 3:I have some red cards, vhs-bond, where we made music videos for red cards, and then Pierre Watt from the background and Sørenne Panille O-Låning yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. She started her TV career. Yes, yes, so it goes way back, yes. And then we were up against discos. It was all already a 12 year old and on stage in the discos, in and up against, we had voices of tenderness, okay yes, are you there as well?
Speaker 2:It's my sister. Yes, and then we had two dancers together.
Speaker 3:And, not far from that, my sister's 16, so I have to be 13, who works for a school board or not work, but makes articles for the school board and then comes, sound of seduction, to the next stage and is going to perform on X-Rus and there is my big sister, my big sister who is not old enough to be on the club. She is my father with me and then I go on tour, I do the show. After then my sister should interview. Then my father starts to talk about that. He has two beautiful de-dry singers. Yes.
Speaker 3:And Remy hears it with a half-mute. He is on the club and makes a club.
Speaker 2:Like Remy, always hears with a half-mute. So there is nothing.
Speaker 3:Yes, yes, but there is one other who sets himself up, because my father was in Herdi and when he was about to have a contact with Remy he could send a VHS-bond in Me and my sister who sings. I remember we drove out in a church and sang yesterday a capella, which Remy is taking. And then there is the fact that sound of seduction stops. Yes. And then he simply gives my sister a call and she doesn't think it's him who is on the other side?
Speaker 2:No, is that it?
Speaker 3:It's the sound of seduction that has topped us, where she says no, let's be with us and take a piss.
Speaker 3:She doesn't think anyone else has taken a piss, but it's like it starts. So we come in and meet Remy and we actually become, you can say, his first X-factor-ban, for X-factor Existered because he produced and wrote his first group without himself. I mean, it was not himself he did it for, so he could stand on his own. So it was also his meeting with him to be a singer for some others and to be a producer. So, yes, it's like the whole thing starts. Then we start playing and not long after I go to school in the public school, I go into class there and I live in Aarhus at that time and actually drive with two people back and forth every weekend and every holiday to play the soap, not Like Other Girls debut album, which is in.
Speaker 2:what was it 28th of December, right?
Speaker 3:In 27th of December the season comes out in the party and it will be played in the 28th of December in the Danish Baratown. Right, yes, and then it just came out of there because we toured with the same we were. The song also gave us a huge hit. And then from Backstreet Boys tour in the USA to Savage Garden tour in Europe and you know, just around the world.
Speaker 2:Yes, it's a completely different story. Very, very short time, not on what Is it four years or something? Four or five years it's all about. But in Norway we are closer to the country than I am at home.
Speaker 3:Yes, we are much more in the country and there will be a big.
Speaker 2:What's his name? Simon Fuller.
Speaker 3:Simon Fuller has made Spice Girls and the one who has made Popstars. The sole concept for Simon Fuller. We were actually in the summer house.
Speaker 2:Is it him or Simon Cowell? Yes, I remember this.
Speaker 3:I remember Remi, my sister and I were down in Nice for a week In a state camp. There is his own church and there is a dancer, a choreographer Actually he is from all Michael Jackson's videos but he flies in to train us up. There is a discussion in the basement and he trains us up to the Backstreet Boys Tournament. And Simon Fuller is our manager. Simon Fuller has made Popstars. There is a time when he sells the concept Popstars. That is being used as an X-factor For Simon Cowell and Simon Fuller. Is we in the summer house or Slott there? It's a fun and fun story Because it was exactly there we trained that there was actually made a huge world that we see as a TV concept that has been running for many years now. Simon Fuller was our manager. In a year and wild time he had found Spice.
Speaker 2:Girls. He has found everything. One of the biggest management that was found at that time.
Speaker 3:But there is something that my sister is more an artist than an entertainer and our music, the pop music, the tempo and the management we are in, we were more an entertainer than we were artists. It was not the time in the studio. You know where it is. She is more introvert, where I am more extrovert, at a time when it was clear that she was a gymnast. She did not really experience those years in that young age In the same way as the others. I was more an eventer but she was more at home and not to be there. I remember there were two of us who were going to London. Simon had given us a chance to make a new album.
Speaker 3:He wanted to have Spice Girls, you know, make the biggest to the next album. But my sister was there at the time. She was not a part of the show. She did not want to. She does not want to be the pop star. She did not want to be the pop star.
Speaker 2:I think it must be completely random. You say that you are a adventurous person. I understand that you are just taking the time to do it. Let's take a look at it. I think that with such a overwhelming success In the short time, or in the first song, and then to stand on the world stage, I was a little more teenage.
Speaker 3:I was just out and about my sister was very beautiful. She was really beautiful and attracted to many male artists. I want to say something more I have been beautiful since I was a child. I can remember that there were many men who reacted to her, not because we were going to talk about it, not because we were going to talk about the whole thing.
Speaker 2:Me too.
Speaker 3:My sister had a challenge that there was constant something she should show off, or it was all about the cost, or the whole time she was young. We were young, but I did not notice the same. It is from men, and when you are very young in a adult world, you meet them out there, but you do not have your parents.
Speaker 2:It is a very young age.
Speaker 3:I think it has been a higher cost for her. It was for me, where I was a little more like a child. I think that has been a part of the reason To get out of the situation that she did has not been very comfortable. It is a moment that can be found.
Speaker 2:And a very little time. It is first Now we are aware of it.
Speaker 3:It has been a while since they were still in the day. It is clear that we are adult women. You can fit better on yourself.
Speaker 2:I remember that there have been some interrelations.
Speaker 3:There have been some terrible undertones. We stopped when we could have done it even bigger. I was very happy with my sister and after that I was completely satisfied. I was very happy with that. I took a casting on Damars Radio for Boogie and a casting on MTV. I was going to choose between the two and move to Aarhus and make live TV and interviews with Jennifer Lopez in New York.
Speaker 2:I made a lot of interviews.
Speaker 3:You were in the same industry, I was allowed to learn something I always could learn with the input. It was also the transition to come in a few years when I made more TV than music but still not hate music.
Speaker 2:How do you react to your parents? How do you react to your parents? If I had to send my two children out, I would have been 17, 18, 19 years old. I would have to be responsible for that.
Speaker 3:My father was totally overreacted. He was too much. I have a 16 year old daughter.
Speaker 2:I can see what he meant.
Speaker 3:I was thinking about my big daughter. I was going to go to a football school in another country and I lived there, I think that's a lot of things.
Speaker 3:It's not a football academy, but it's all the places outside the world. We had a management. We had this agreement. It was about having good values at home, to take decisions and respond to yourself. I have never touched any forms of stuff. It was actually the rule from my mother. If I have any sense of the end and you end a situation with me seeing it all the time.
Speaker 2:I have been 15 years in a row.
Speaker 3:I sat in a marquis hall for the first time. I sat with nine people and that was the only thing I was able to do. I didn't want to. If I had done it, if I had taken my first drug, my mother would have taken me home and it would have ended. It was my mother's rule.
Speaker 2:It's also very nice to stand in the hall In the whole system in my room, the things you do. You know that well.
Speaker 3:I also knew from the start that I had my back. I have never touched it, I have never tried it. I have never.
Speaker 2:I think it's funny, but it's my but you know in our branch how much and how fast it can be applied Because it's a nightlife you work in.
Speaker 3:If you first touch the cyclone, there is no control on it, and then it takes you, and that's what we have seen.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I am afraid of it Because I have also had the two most expensive ones at home. I can also imagine the first nightclub I played on. It was like for all the years I played 5 am a moon. There was a lot of work. At the speed it's a little over 10-15 years ago. You came instead, right.
Speaker 2:But it was crazy. At no point I thought I should try it I thought it was real. It was a drink, it was a bubble, it's actually. So, I think it really needs to be something to say from a young age.
Speaker 3:And then again, if you haven't had the desire to do it, then it's not something that requires a back-up, it's right to understand. I have seen it, you can see it, you can see the people who do it, and why, a frequency they are on, and it has been very clear to me from the start that those who do it, they go over in their own group and then you can stand out from observing they are not a better version of themselves.
Speaker 2:They come a long way from each other.
Speaker 3:And what you often see is the ego boost when it comes to Coke. They feel like the king of the world when they do it, and I think that from the start. I have always been interested in psychology, but I think it was interesting to observe how it was like that. It was a boost of their ego so that they could be more themselves. That, I think, was just not attractive.
Speaker 2:Yes, it should be said more and more fresh than in fact.
Speaker 3:It wasn't something I thought I also wanted to. But I like that. Wow, that's what I really wanted to know.
Speaker 2:How do you think it is between two sisters? You just said you were scared that she would like to stop. What about the whole process, the four or five years it is? On. Can you be one of the sisters around on such a?
Speaker 3:tour. We were scared several times. Later on, you have been away for four months and not been home to spend time with friends For one flight to another. It is also a pressed life. You stand up, there is a make-up artist at the last bank of your hotel at 7 o'clock, then you do make-up from 7 to 8. And then you do 14 interviews, or 10 interviews and interviews on radio shows, tv shows, and make and tell the same story again and again. You have a chauffeur, you have it. It is very ego, it just runs and it is all about you.
Speaker 3:You are talking about people who only ask you about you. It becomes enormous, I do not know, straightened towards. Why is it that people who are superstars have a great? You know it's all about them. It is because the way they behave around the world, everyone does it to be about them. I think it was also very interesting. I was also very wow, it's a lot about me all the time.
Speaker 2:It is quite interesting in that alarm, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yes, but yes, no, because there is one thing I have told the same story again and again, and you should make it interesting to hear it again and again, and you should tell it again and sing it again, and when you do it again and you do it, it's like Groundhog Day. Then it's good to be where I am today. Finland and Australia.
Speaker 2:You are certainly a management that is just laying a plan for every day.
Speaker 3:you just feel like a part of Without being in control, perhaps, of a lot of things. And then there have been a lot of great experiences, like I have not gone to the gym, but I have had enough food.
Speaker 2:The gym tour. You should have had a lot of food. It was out in the world.
Speaker 3:I have been allowed to experience it on a personal level. I have been allowed to teach people culture and everything. I have really been around and seen a lot of things. So I have also what can you say? I feel very calm. I have seen a lot.
Speaker 3:So it has been a magical time, but in the same way, now you are asking about my sister, so we were the closest to each other and understood each other better than anyone else. And then we were the closest. You were on a different plane and the biggest fuck you, because you precisely see your own relationship with the people who are closest to you.
Speaker 3:And when you go up to each other I would say I am very grateful for all of this. But it also makes one kind of difference I have not talked to my sister. Today, 9, 8 years, I haven't talked to my sister.
Speaker 2:It was actually not a year.
Speaker 3:No, and it's not a time when I've taken a choice. It's a choice she has taken and that has been a huge burden. I have used several years to actually be working and accepting.
Speaker 2:Do you know why? Not that, it's just like that. You just need to talk about it if you don't want to?
Speaker 3:No, of course I don't want to. It's a private matter, but at the same time, I will say that it is actually something that is the most difficult you can experience. A person you have actually born into the society feels that you can choose Instead of saying you can give or you can try to work through what it is, because it gives a feeling that it really has to be a dangerous person if you don't want to be with him.
Speaker 2:Yes, but it sounds completely dangerous, yes, absolutely dangerous. When you see it, it's a time, it's not that, yes it is, but I always find it difficult to understand.
Speaker 3:I have been exposed as a psychotherapist because the first two years of your therapy study are about you being in therapy. You have to find out a lot about yourself and look into your own piece, and that has been the most difficult journey for me. It's just because of four years since I was human. There is something else, and I also feel that with the nervous system.
Speaker 3:I have understood where I come from. I have understood my programming for survival strategies. I have understood why I have done what I have done and maybe not meant to do that for a human being. So I have always been developing and learning. But I have become a more understanding person for myself and how I am going around the world and why other people do what they do.
Speaker 2:Yes, you feel more like that A whole person. What is a whole. I don't know. It's when you can get around the most things I do.
Speaker 3:Yes, I think I have been living through this Because there are many degrees of this. There is the psychology and tapin, but there is also the spirituality and there is this awareness, how much awareness you are in the way you are, in the world and in yourself. I would say it's at three different levels or frequencies that are much more working. So I am a more human being. It's a tough question, I would say. I have never been more comfortable and never been more at home in myself.
Speaker 3:I know who I am and I am not an insecure person. I know who I am and you should know that too. Yes, and I would say I have it better today. I can say that.
Speaker 2:Yes, it has happened. If it was the other way around, yes, before it has been a great journey.
Speaker 3:I have had it with all the relationships I have had. I have learned a lot. Yes, so it might be If you can say that, yes, but I don't know.
Speaker 2:I can't read anything else in the class, so I don't know anything else in the world.
Speaker 3:But you don't get to read more than that. No, it's good, but you don't know how to read.
Speaker 2:And now you have taken an opportunity to do psychology and therapeutic instead and you learn some remedies that we don't do. We learn them in the right way? Yes, instead of. It's also okay with me.
Speaker 3:I think it's just as important to learn it in the real world, that you read, because there are many people who can read something and be very good at just rehearsing, just to take it into the mind, and then they understand what is there, but they don't embody it, they are not themselves, and that's because you have to work out the world, you have to work with yourself and your relatives.
Speaker 2:That's actually my philosophy, also for my children. I don't have to be so hooked on having an assignment. You have to do a lot of reading. I have myself tried a thousand things in my life and had a fantastic life. But it's also important to learn by doing and then make all the mistakes you do.
Speaker 3:I think it's the school that teaches most. If I have to be completely honest, yes.
Speaker 2:I have also been to Frisbee, yes. So where is the music today?
Speaker 3:Where is the music today?
Speaker 2:Because you can see it. It's been 10 years since you've released music.
Speaker 3:Yes, it is.
Speaker 2:But I don't think the person for music is less than when you have spent your whole life on it.
Speaker 3:I think I found out I made a solo record, wrote music released it. You are on Disco Wax, on Sony Music, I remember yes, but I don't think it's 14 days or something after my release of my solo record and that's what it is. It's 14 years since now. Yes, as we got two weeks ago.
Speaker 3:There has begun a great self-mortem and in one strange way, is there a great trauma in this, more than missing and having so much guilt about a brother's death? Yes, that I simply get the feeling in my body that I'm out of music. So there was a lot of planning, radio tours, the one and the other. With this record and with that I can just close everything and I don't want to do anything with that record Because that record had a burden on me to answer his SMS and I had to call him back and tell him I was there for him. He had a hard time because I had a dream with my brother, my ego, my music. So I got it all mixed together and made unconscious, a guilt feeling in the music, guilt. So I'm putting it aside, okay.
Speaker 2:Yes, wow, yes, I have a sister who is self-mortem and she's self-mortem, yes. So I know that feeling when I'm missing something so close, and guilt and shame. Yes, that's what I do. I've actually been in and out of the more and more times since then and had it really bad. And then she calls me plus a day and I'm really happy and says it just went great, everything is fantastic with the children. I just want to say that before you travel and then I'm standing there in the middle of Thailand to play, and then when I'm down there, I get a call from my wife and she says she's 30 years old and then it's first time after it goes up for me.
Speaker 2:I also have a guilt feeling. Why did I think I was going to play music? But it goes up for me there. I haven't analyzed it much because you just try to work on it in the way you can, but there should have been more fear when she was over the moon, because she didn't have the courage to do it when you were down. Is it something to do? Is it the same thing that's happening?
Speaker 3:Yes, but there are some things that people are suffering from, and this was also the case. Exactly, but it is because they don't want to do it, and it can be completely fine and completely fine and where there are no lights.
Speaker 2:But it's the most dangerous when they are over the moon.
Speaker 3:Exactly, and these psychological sufferings are invisible. They are invisible with the blue eye and they are actually difficult to handle Because these kinds of people can also be told as if they have a bad memory. My great-grandfather said that he had gotten much better in the past 10 days Because he could have done something. It's hard to get it out of the way 10 days later, so I think that, with these psychological sufferings that I have caused me to cry, it's when you feel that someone has it difficult but they just go away. You have to be more pushy in relation to going through with a cup of hot soup. Just go through with it and check up on it, even if people say that they are okay. I'm done, I'm just home.
Speaker 3:It's more like human relations to these people. Go home and check up on them.
Speaker 2:Because that's what I wanted to do. I also wanted to do everything differently. It's not certain if it has changed anything or if it was happening at the same time.
Speaker 3:We can't take responsibility for their actions.
Speaker 2:No, that's what I've come to.
Speaker 3:Yes, that's what I've come to. But in many years there was some guilt. I was the last one he called or wrote to and there was some guilt from one side that I hadn't been there. So I blend these feelings together about the music and just pack the music away.
Speaker 2:It's just getting the guilt, it's getting the guilt. Unconscious. I'm not used to being happy on stage.
Speaker 3:I do it the first 14 days, 3 weeks, and then I just sit down and that's what I'm used to. I can't do that, so at the time the music wasn't part of my life, no, so that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:It's getting painful, maybe instead of the music, or at least for something you want to go back to Exactly Some ego boost.
Speaker 3:What was the music like on stage? I was on stage. I got the feeling that people were looking at me. It wasn't the energy like I've created something creative, I want to take part. It was a guilt feeling, it was all the bad things that were in that connection, because you know, when you're playing, all the things you have to do you're sitting and talking, so it's very different than the music. The creative process has been where you've played music yes, that's always the most interesting.
Speaker 3:And right when you're out, you have to be an entertainer, you have to sell yourself on the radio, on TV, you have to do shows. So it was like yes.
Speaker 2:And do you really pull a whole thing?
Speaker 3:Yes, I pull the thing and it's a little bit like that. I'm a mother there two years in a row, and that's what I'm dealing with. It's to protect myself and be able to be here, because when you're sad, you're also sad that you have to be a mother. It's to protect your parents, and it's to be healthy and to take care of others.
Speaker 2:It's just to take care of them in a way that is a huge thing, I think.
Speaker 3:So a few years have passed where I've retracted. I simply went inside myself and took care of myself at that point and then after some time it became so sassy Head-plugged products that I came out with and that's how they went into this influence of life. I was with some others, but you know Instagram was a photograph app I had taken. I took a year at the photograph school. I didn't take the digital line, but I took the analog line to be in dark frames, because that was where my heart was running out every day and could stand in a dark frame and come out of the picture and I thought it was just the space I could go to. There was some peace there.
Speaker 3:And that creative process right and creating something. But it wasn't for ego but for some other expression. So I did that and my mother and found my father, my husband, who isn't my husband today but father to my other child, and was a little more in this family life, creative life and influence of life. It was also with time, because we were involved in creating the concept of influence.
Speaker 3:That's what you have to say I can remember my friend Panelle Lotus, who has been Cube's director and you've been the biggest influence. But I can remember how she was at home and we talked about it. If you now hold up more to take on these small creative gifts, then we start with a charge and how we talked to the others, you shouldn't just take on gifts, we have to start charging for it and at the start you can't do that.
Speaker 2:I can remember sitting with her on Ibiza and sitting in the same plane and not knowing each other, but having friends on Facebook, which I'm familiar with. And then we were following out in the taxi, my wife, my wife, my wife and Panelle and I, and she was telling me about it and I was just like that and I was just thinking, wow, it sounds like a sense, but you can't do that. Can you charge money for that? I went to.
Speaker 3:Thailand with some of my friends and I had a new year's evening with a actors in there and she was starting to send me a lot of money on her Instagram. So it was this conversation. It was so interesting because Panelle and I were meeting. I was like I'll take the money on my way in, thank you. But it was really interesting the transition from being a law, when there's something to be done and you don't know, what it is.
Speaker 3:It was a big thing and I've been living in a lot of influence for many years, this pop star life where you could just travel and take things, and all this again what can you say? One form of validation of the people I am. It's what I look and reflect on, right, because it's more about being entertaining. What does that mean? It's singing in a TV world influence all the time, showing other people your life because they lose their lifestyle or because they lose their people.
Speaker 3:So you let them learn to know you without you knowing any of them. It's very strange you make a reality TV series on your own TV channel, but it's online with your online avatar.
Speaker 2:But if it's with you, what's it? Called Control. Yes, but also in control in relation to music.
Speaker 3:Yes, and you can narrate, you can get it to the line you want to get it to. It doesn't have to be straight up.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it must have been a little bit easier. I don't know if it's something to say in real life, but I hope you enjoyed it. Do you have a pop star?
Speaker 3:Of course I do, but there is something psychological about this Instagram or social media, because your brain is not made to sit all the time and follow so many people's lives and this is what you are all the time, and I think that is a natural instinct but that we all the time are aiming at ourselves with what we see. And we see a glance picture and then you think you have to aim your life towards a glance picture and you always show only the cool or really much of the cool.
Speaker 2:I don't hear you talking.
Speaker 3:But I do that a lot. And I would also say people say that you are a piece of shit Because I also show a lot of other things, but you will always be caught in the same way.
Speaker 2:And there is also something with likes and things that you get caught in or cooperation stories.
Speaker 3:And your work, because your work has suddenly turned into this.
Speaker 2:In your private life.
Speaker 3:But there is a trick in it. Some people are able to do it and can keep it, and then there are some who are ignorant about how big and beautiful and successful they are. Then they are more and more and more into this garbage and produced content. So other people find it interesting and it can be just a skeleton. So this is more about being locked down to be healthy and safe for the population.
Speaker 2:Your Instagram is being locked down, isn't it?
Speaker 3:Yes, it had a small number of thousands followers, but a really good reach in relation to having many Danish women in 35 to 45 years old, and that was the biggest segment and that's where you get paid the most in relation to your ads. So this life, the life in that way I did, everything is from one day to the next and that was the biggest blessing. It was a gift.
Speaker 2:Even though it's your income that disappears.
Speaker 3:But when you already have the money and I had it, this feeling that I wanted to do something else. So I started my psychotherapy studio and I can remember conversations with my friends about I don't want to be a father and be an influencer and that sounds huge, you know, judgemental, and it's not mine in that way. It was just not right for me. No. That I should be known and used my life. I was 14 years old doing this. I want to have a country where I can be a superman, where?
Speaker 2:I can be a superman.
Speaker 3:So that's not just for me, but for other people. It's like I've just spent my whole life on a red carpet, or I sat first road to fashion week. And that's not something I can use for anything. Yes, that's some great experiences and that's been fun, but there should be something more than that.
Speaker 3:There should be something more, so I went to the psychotherapy studio and that was the biggest gift for me. It was a journey Into that. Suddenly I wasn't a shit out there. How the hell do I get into that? That's what they are and keep on my own shit in relation to you, also have two children with two different men. What's the real deal with that? Your sister doesn't talk to you. Right after that, all the fingers were just spread out.
Speaker 2:They just had the other one spread out.
Speaker 3:So it's really been like that. What's happening is that I took to Costa Rica Over at something called Rhythmia, and I chose to take a retreat where there is breath work, yoga, meditation and plant ceremonies. Plant medicine ceremonies are ayahuasca. And hey, a short note, he was there too. What's his name? Andre 3000.
Speaker 3:He was just on a treat, but you are simply over there trying ayahuasca and from never trying another ayahuasca, even taking plant medicine, ayahuasca. It's a really healthy gap and that's because I had only looked at it as I was going to get into hell. Something inside me, what's happening inside you that you need to heal so you can become a more human being. So that's been the journey in the last four years and it's a huge, exciting and interesting and I'm working as a psychotherapist today.
Speaker 3:My niche is people who would like to go into a process of micro-production and who are interested in psychedelic assisted therapy. I'm not interested in that. I have participated in some circles and facilitations in abroad. It's a huge thing to do.
Speaker 2:But there is something called life.
Speaker 3:Life is over in my book. So, it's not because I run around and practice it, but there is something that is really exciting in this that there is something you can take so far with assisted therapy, even if you have been in therapy for 10 years.
Speaker 3:But psychedelic plant medicines can help you get into the core of who you are and put all your research mechanisms, your survival strategies, all that you believed you were, and you get into the promise to look at things very, very carefully and you don't just think about it, you feel it in your body.
Speaker 3:So people make a huge change in their lives and they have been on a journey, their experiences, and that was my inspiration. That's why I have gone that way. I do breathwork up in the chapel in Shiloth and Lund. I do sessions with Yen Yoga and breathwork and they work a lot with it. It's also in the form that they choose to make micro-reducements and so on. So it's a completely different job today, but it's cool and that's why it's connected here. Regarding the music, it's Tute.
Speaker 3:Costa Rica there are twelve people playing live music on all kinds of exciting instruments and they play live for about ten to twelve hours during the ceremonies and the music they play is plant medicine journeys that's ayahuasca music that you hear on these plant travels, and I've heard a lot of that kind of music since.
Speaker 2:So it's a completely different genre, so it's more spiritual, or what is it?
Speaker 3:You can't just say it's spiritual, it's crystal singing balls or it's hangpan or something like that. It's a different genre of music, At least as soon as you've tried plant medicine once. There's a whole new genre you've never known before and that's because one of my really good friends was with me. He's been a big producer and record maker in the industry and he's also always heard what we've heard and moved in all those circles that we've moved in. But he also hears a different genre of music and he hears most of that genre of music today and it's really interesting. But you hear a different genre of music after you've made plant medicine.
Speaker 2:Yes, but I've heard that from many. I've known more people who have been on it and I would say that I've actually, at the time since I was a child, had a big power operation when it took me some time to get back to that, and I've actually been in contact with some of these people and actually tried it. Wow. But even after that, what?
Speaker 3:did you try? I have to ask.
Speaker 2:It was actually that it was the MDMA MDMA-THAV.
Speaker 3:It was taken in the year 8 months. Yes, in the month yes.
Speaker 2:Yes, so you only realized this bit. I was very close to going on tour, but it was a success for me, and I was lucky to be on tour for months and I was waiting for the day when I was 20,000 subscribers. But that was a success for me, I was waiting for the day. I was out walking and I still had my headphones on. It could be my music style, but I always did it, but it was the music that made the tapin for me. I was very happy about that.
Speaker 3:I was listening to Sound Healing in the Chamberlain room.
Speaker 2:What does that mean?
Speaker 3:Sound Healing is that you lie down on the mat and then there's a facilitator playing on crystal school, crystal singing balls and there's a big gong in there. And these vibrations because the sound healing. These instruments are made to break your different chakras. They play on a frequency.
Speaker 2:It must be the frequency that makes the sound.
Speaker 3:So you go in and listen to it and pull the sound down in the mat and the whole body is filled with air and you only have awareness of your world While this music runs in an hour. So it's necessary to do that, and it's the calm in the nervous system, because we're actually going around and activating our nervous system 95-95% of the day. And then people wonder why they're actually feeling stressed or anxious or worried or in a fear of the situation on one or the other way, because I think many are missing this tool to regulate the nervous system. If we just learned it in school or learned it somewhere, it has more to do with being healthy. For example, now I also have a breathwork facilitator.
Speaker 2:And you're really passionate about all this.
Speaker 3:Yes, but I see the difference when I hold a session up there's a half-dress I can get half-dress people through concerns. They're either being killed by some pig or they're being spread out in total chaos, or there's really some stoned energy that's been released. This means that we're going to be on a whole lot of solar plexus and we're thinking about it again and again. But there's people's experiences with coming to a breathwork, because it's a workout for your blood circulation. It makes you incredibly much aware of your nervous system that you have it differently after you've been there for an hour. You in your system and in your center, the way you are in the world is completely different when you go out there from not just meditation, because meditation can also be a premeditation. You work intentionally with your world-treatment that there's something that really shifts and regulates the other side of your system, so you just feel like you're getting closer to the place.
Speaker 3:So when you see the shift, happening together it's incredibly interesting that people feel it just with the same thing, that they don't have to wait eight hours.
Speaker 2:No, no, it's very interesting. It's a big, powerful reaction for everyone Now you're saying that when you started at home, it was when you were going to react and when you were going to have your pulse down, or whatever it was. You were in a music room. How is it with your children?
Speaker 3:My children have two football games. I have one that plays in the FCK elite and then I have a drink that I play in the HEK. They play football and they also do Bradwork with them, but no music.
Speaker 2:A lot of music. Do you pray with the music? Yes, of course.
Speaker 3:He has the most popular music. In my oldest drink he really comes and plays all kinds of useful music. For me it's really something we have together, so it's good to have the sport from his father and the discipline from me. I'll tell you what's it called.
Speaker 3:It doesn't mean we don't talk about his father, no, but then I'll say that he really is a musical person and that's because we've always done that. But we do that, for example, on Sunday, but also every day. We're ten and we have YouTube Premium and it's either Spotify or YouTube, but there's music that's played high, there's always dancing and jumping in the sofa and I have a chair where I can take the people who live away from the table and put some space in the table so you can think of a way to go.
Speaker 3:And it's used and it's really useful in our home. I really want to have music that's bigger and I want to take music that's more useful than there's silence.
Speaker 2:How do you deal with the fact that he if we take him, who is close to you right now you have to be through the process of being a pop star? What do you think about your children becoming a football player? I don't know if there's music in it, but it's a little bit of a challenge. I've tried a lot of things, so it's a little bit of a challenge.
Speaker 3:I think the good things about him and Merck Efter himself. He's a really, really a conscious little person or a big person because he's taller than me and he's taller than me, and I'm the one who's coming in to him now, but I've also been to Roskilde. He's not the kind of drinker but he's 16. He's an elite player. That's one thing. It helps a lot with this to feel like a teenager and how you actually get through these teenagers where it's all about the exposure.
Speaker 2:That's what it does.
Speaker 3:But then I'll say that I had him, for example, see the Bedner's Dormitar here from the 14th day ago where we were invited to the premiere, and that was cool because I can like to teach from others or to teach mistakes. All the experience is rich and you can learn from it.
Speaker 2:That's one thing.
Speaker 3:So he knows well why and how his father had a great talent. But as he had played enough and he knows well why, he plays, for example, paddles with his father and he plays really well paddles with his father and they're out playing against other adults and it's really fun here. They've played in the Fetter Lines right, but he can see how talented and how his father is still a sportsman.
Speaker 3:He really likes to play in the 25th and just in the body, so that sport he can find me well. And now you can say he's not playing the club all the time, so there's another one, but he's older. Of course I know that I'm probably more about you, but in any case, you can notice that something has also happened in Fredrik and that he knows well what his mother and father have done and what they've done wrong or what they've lived and I've been very open about how my life has been.
Speaker 3:So it's important to be able to have yourself and be, yourself out in the world to take some responsibility for yourself, and not just because there's a football school or a club or something else, that there are others who show you that they're here. That's your itinerary, that's what you have to live. Then you have to be aware of what you want. You don't just have to be a member, you have to be, aware of your own life. I think he's a very conscious person. We talk a lot about things like that.
Speaker 2:Yes, and he has two parents who, as you can say, have tried at the highest level both music and sports.
Speaker 3:And since he's a person who has been given a lot of model jobs for the TV show. He could make football shows on a channel and make all kinds of things, and he's a very, very mother. I'm a football player, I'm the one who knows he doesn't really like to watch me. Watch me over my head, no, no, that's not true, is that?
Speaker 3:very cool. Yes, he's very strict. He says no to things where I sometimes try to hear because that's a model job. You get so much money, you just say no, mother, where I'm like okay.
Speaker 2:My biggest thing with my children is to be able to say no. It also makes the club when we get new orders. It's important for you to say no, yes, and it sounds pretty scary because you always learn that that as a child, you have to say yes to everything. That's what I've decided to give you.
Speaker 3:No, it's much better. Yes, you can't say yes, yes, it's full of things.
Speaker 2:What's the name of it? Finally, can you come back to music, do you think?
Speaker 3:Try to hear me. I'm so lucky. Do you know why?
Speaker 2:No because, there are more reasons I hope.
Speaker 3:Yes, there are more reasons, but with the music I don't have to search for it, because it always searches for me. I'm lucky that one of the girls sings with me on a little love bill of Storframmast right, A number that was made on December 1, 2020.
Speaker 2:25 years.
Speaker 3:When you look at me, I don't look so happy.
Speaker 2:I'm just a little bit of a fool.
Speaker 3:You're a fool for all the people. I always get up at 3 in the morning. That's one thing. The girls and the girls have made the love bill of the 50s. They also made a promise to 3, 4, 5 Saturdays in Trich You've known each other for years and made a promise to stand in front of 10,000 to 15,000 people and sing like you were the pop stars again. I'm actually going to sing on the next song we love If there's music coming. I also play on Crystal Singing Balls.
Speaker 2:When I'm learning meditation.
Speaker 3:After I have people in a breathwork session, I play and balance the chakras with these Crystal Singing Balls. I also sit for myself and sing on it. When I have more time in the calendar to be creative instead of working, I think it would be natural for me to be more in the musicals. I also have a hangpander at home. I play and have music in my life one way or another, so it still lives. It can be not there among people, but there are so many creative people. I'm curious to see how much music there is today.
Speaker 2:I'm also interested in whether it lives in you. It lives in me. I don't want to hear any new words, but it lives in me.
Speaker 3:A month ago I was at the museum. I've talked to a lot of people about how much music there is. Wow, it's the best music in Copenhagen.
Speaker 3:When you go out, it's a bit annoying. But when you come to the museum and you listen to music and you really want to be a Buddha. I can feel it in my heart. I can feel it in my nervous system, but I can still have a conversation with you. And that's what we want to make, but I still feel that music is so high that I want to dance.
Speaker 2:That's the art in the sound.
Speaker 3:I don't know who has put that music system up there.
Speaker 2:It has a four-leafed root that makes our sound.
Speaker 3:in cooperation with me, I'm thinking about being a Buddha, because there are different types of sounds, whether you stand at the club, or you can call it a little bit.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit of a free place.
Speaker 3:For people who really want to be good at music. But you want to have a conversation, but you also want to be able to move around like you dance. I would say that the museum is the most important place, but the sound is exceptional.
Speaker 2:We have spent a lot of money on it and we have done a lot of things with the sound.
Speaker 3:The sound of the music is really something, and the speakers are right there and the two stupid tweeters are sitting in a loft that only plays over 10,000 Hz as the total noise, I can see that I stood there until the end and I was like, where is it?
Speaker 2:really made.
Speaker 3:It's really made it's a great experience. You give to the customers who come in and die, because it's more than just standing and drinking on a bar. You get a music experience, like you're not really good at driving.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. You can't take any places to play and hear the sound you're hearing.
Speaker 2:So listen to it.
Speaker 3:So you can hear it well, or when I take it out, it's right here right, it's a pleasure I would also like to take it.
Speaker 2:Finally, I could ask you a few questions. I've asked everyone about that. You've been through a lot of influences from model TV, world music healers. I've said that before. No, I haven't. When you die, you have to be buried. I'm not going to be buried, I'm going out in the water, but there will be a form of burial, of one form. How do you expect it to be music?
Speaker 3:Of course it will be music, but it's expected that I will be buried in the sea and there will be a festival.
Speaker 2:That's what my dream is it's set in the sea.
Speaker 3:I've both lost my brother and my stepfather, but who was my father? So I've been inside the dead and with the difficulty of saying you're just like a wild animal and you're buried in the sea.
Speaker 2:It's a very nice place.
Speaker 3:My last willdk. Everyone just has to follow it. I've made a lot of documents about it. It's all arranged for me, both for my mother and for me, so there's nothing to be worried about. It's all arranged for a funeral, but in a small way. It's a little interesting, but it's more about keeping the person alive. I'm living and I'm not worried about it Because, honestly, I feel like I'm living a lifetime. If something happens to me, I don't want to be misunderstood. I have my children.
Speaker 3:They want to see me grow up, but I don't want to feel that I'm missing something. I've never lived a life like this. I'm so more self-confident.
Speaker 2:I'm very grateful, I agree. Have you written any songs in this program?
Speaker 3:Yes, I have. I've written a number that I'd like to have in the game and it's actually much more pop than the music I listen to every day. But there's an energy in the number and a story, not an eye-opening, but some emotions, love, life and joy that follow in the number and that's why I'd like to have my children play it, because we've danced in the studio, because they were very young from the youngest to the youngest it was two years old and it's a number where we dance every time.
Speaker 3:So it's the number we have at home and it's Chris Brown One, two, three, four.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't remember. But it means a lot.
Speaker 3:Forever, Playful pop dance joy. They all have to dance. They have to dance for me.
Speaker 2:That's a good idea, and I'd like to say thank you for being here. Thank you. It's a great story.
Speaker 3:Thank you for inviting me here. I'd like to hear a little about it. Even if it's not something with the music, in the same way I think it's because it's a lot of music that can do the music.
Speaker 2:It's also the music that can do the other way. That it's what it's doing.
Speaker 3:I think it's super interesting and the most beautiful thing about music is that when we hear a number or you know, there's a feeling that we can go back to the moment where we have a different experience of you know in joy or what it's called, that we have a different experience.
Speaker 2:That means something to us.
Speaker 3:But that's a piece of music that reminds us of. It's so good and you go back to that moment.
Speaker 2:I think it's fantastic, it's amazing.
Speaker 3:Thank you for coming.
Speaker 2:Thank you for joining us at this Uusmusea-Local podcast.
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