Words of Wellness with Shelly

From Greenwashing To Genuine: Building Truly Non-Toxic Home Care With Safe And Sound Soap

• Shelly Jefferis • Season 2 • Episode 132

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What if the word “fragrance” on your favorite bottle hid a thousand invisible decisions about your health? We sit down with Savannah, the founder of Safe and Sound Soap, to unpack how deceptive marketing and ingredient overload led her to build a transparent, six-ingredient laundry detergent—and an expanding lineup of boosters, room sprays, magnesium oil, and car fresheners that skip parabens, phthalates, and mystery fillers.

The episode dives into the difference between “natural” and truly safer, how greenwashing confuses even careful shoppers, and why simple, shorter ingredient labels are most often best formulas. Savannah shares her origin story: a frustrating experience with what she thought was a “clean” detergent, months of kitchen experimentation, and the courage to gather feedback at farmers markets until the results were undeniable. We explore practical label-reading tactics, the fragrance loophole, and the long-game impact of everyday exposures on sensitive skin, gut health, and hormones.

There’s also an honest look at building a mission-driven business while raising a baby, scaling from a home studio to bigger plans, and keeping family at the center without losing momentum. And speaking of family, when it comes to making healthier swaps, If you’ve wondered where to start, just take it one step at a time, swap one product at a time, all small changes add up over time. From safer car scents to magnesium oil that addresses common deficiencies, this conversation is rich with takeaways you can use today.

Ready to rethink what “clean” really means and make changes that stick? Hit follow for more wellness stories, share this with someone who loves a good label read, and leave a quick review to help others find us. Your next best swap might be closer than you think.

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Thank you for listening to the Words of Wellness podcast with Shelly Jefferis. I am honored and so grateful to have you here and it would mean the world to me if you could take a minute to follow, leave a 5-star review and share the podcast with anyone you love and anyone you feel could benefit from the message.

Thank you and God Bless! And remember to do something for yourself, for your wellness on this day!
In Health,

Shelly

SPEAKER_00:

And when I did my own research, I realized it's it wasn't as clean as they were saying that it was. And I felt bad for spending the extra money towards those cleaner products. I thought I was doing the right thing. So I love that now is the time, the age that we can do our own research. We all have Google, we can hop on there and we can ask questions, we can do our own research, and that's what I encourage people to do.

SPEAKER_01:

Do you get confused by all of the information that bombards us every day on ways to improve our overall health and our overall wellness? Do you often feel stuck, unmotivated, or struggle to reach your wellness goals? Do you have questions as to what exercises you should be doing? What foods you should or shouldn't be eating? How to improve your overall emotional and mental well-being? Hello everyone. I am so excited to welcome you to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelly Jeffries, and I will be your host. My goal is to answer these questions and so much more. To share tips, education, and inspiration around all of the components of wellness through solo and guest episodes. With 35 plus years as a health and wellness professional, a retired college professor, a speaker, and a multi-passionate entrepreneur, I certainly have lots to share. However, my biggest goal and inspiration in doing this podcast is to share the wellness stories of others with you. To bring in guests who can share their journeys so that we can all learn together while making an impact on the health, the wellness, and lives of all of you, our listeners. The ultimate hope is that you leave today with even just one nugget that can enhance the quality of your life, and that you will, we all will, now and into the future, live our best quality of lives full of energy, happiness, and joy. Now let's dive into our message for today. Hello, my friends. Welcome back to Words of Wildness. My name is Shelly, and I will be your host. And I am excited to introduce our guest today and to hear more about what she does. I know we're going to have a lot to talk about and a lot in common. She is a mom, a wife, and a business owner. And she is the founder, the owner of a company called Safe and Sound Soap, which I am really excited to hear more about. So welcome Savannah Ree to the show. Hello. Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited. I'm excited to have you too. And I knew when we connected, and I can't remember if it was in a podcast group, I'm not even sure now, but looking at what you have a passion for, it's right in alignment with what I have a passion for. So I'm really looking forward to our conversation. Me too. So you started your company, and how long ago did you get started?

SPEAKER_00:

I started in 2023 and really just started going to farmers markets and giving out samples of my laundry.

SPEAKER_01:

So it's it's fairly new for you then.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it is. It is. I worked on the formula for several months and then started slowly going to farmers markets and things like that to give get feedback from people that tried my samples. And then from there, last year, actually in December, is when I officially launched my website. So now I can ship all over the US. But I've really been enjoying it and been enjoying having something to offer people in the wellness space.

SPEAKER_01:

I am so excited for you because I and I want to give you kudos for doing this because I I have thought about this as well, but I don't know that I'd have the patience to formulate any kind of a product. So I want to give you tons of credit. And for our listeners, I know we're gonna kind of dive into how you started with your company, Savannah. However, I know we have the same mission in mind, and that's to find non-toxic products for our families. And that's really what led you to creating your company, correct?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, exactly. I think I had bought an all-natural laundry soap, and I noticed it really wasn't getting my clothes as clean as I wanted. And then I looked on the ingredients and I'm like, whoa, this has over 40 ingredients. This is like the biggest one advertised as an all-natural laundry soap. It's got over 40 ingredients in it. I I should just go back to using Thai, but I didn't do that. Um, I I just decided to make my own instead. I went the hard route, but I'm glad that I did it.

SPEAKER_01:

I'm glad that you did too. This is something I'm going to be excited to share from the rooftops with everyone and to really get the word out about what you're doing because it's really very important and very needed. And like you said, so many products out there, and I speak on this, and I know that you know about this as far as the topic of greenwashing. They'll come across as they're natural in their marketing and their branding, and in many times they might be a little bit natural, but they're really not fully what they're claiming it to be. So I I'm with you on this. I mean, I've I've been on this hunt and I have found a couple products when it comes to laundry soap that I really like. But I've I've been on this journey for gosh, I don't know, a couple decades of just really researching and finding out information, but also trying so many different products. And it really does like this trial and error.

SPEAKER_00:

And also And you spend so much money too. It's so frustrating just to find like one or two products that actually work that you're actually happy with.

SPEAKER_01:

Totally, yes. And this is why I love what you're doing because you are truly creating something that's non-toxic that we can know that it is, and you I can tell you're like building and adding to what you have to offer. So it started with laundry soap, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, ma'am. Yes, just the laundry soap for quite a while. All I had was laundry soap, and I just kind of got feedback on people that asked me for other products, um, asked me for sugar scrubs or room sprays and things like that, and slowly started adding to my line of products. So uh I I lose track of how many exactly products that I have right now because I've added some very fast over the last couple of months, but over 10 products now that people can buy and know what's in it. They know that it's natural and that they can trust it.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's so important. I I really, I really want to emphasize this for our listeners because it it can take the legwork, the guesswork out of the average person. Like for the average person, yes, they're not always looking at the ingredients, and that's something that I really encourage people to do, whether it's a a soap, laundry soap, face cream, food item, you know, looking at that label is so important.

SPEAKER_00:

But this reduces that time and that's right, yes, because I as the owner, I'm very transparent with what I use and behind the scenes and what ingredients I use in the products so that it's easy to see what the ingredients are. You don't have to go try to Google them. Um, on the back of every single one of my laundry soaps, I have each ingredient, it's six ingredients, and then what each ingredient does because I want you as the customer to know that there's a reason that it's in there, that I just sit and put it in there as a filler or something like that. I want you to know that each ingredient is there for a reason.

SPEAKER_01:

And you know, I was looking at that, and I I I'm just so excited because I have to share with you, and and I get forgive me for getting like excited about this topic, but I really, really do, and I'm excited about what you're doing because I for a long time was using a product that I again thought was natural. And when I see and I look at your ingredients and it's just a select few, what I was finding, and I started doing the research, like I know that you did, a lot of the different soaps would have preservatives. And I'm like, why? Why? And you know, there could be a very good reason, um, but it seemed like there were extra ingredients that maybe didn't need to be there. And and to your point of what you're doing, it looks like you've been able to formulate something very simple, and that's really key to to keeping it clean, keeping it non-toxic.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, that's that has been my goal this whole time. Every time that I formulate a product, I really try to keep the ingredients as few as possible, and um that way it's just easier for the for the customer, for people who are looking for non-toxic products, for people that have sensitive skin and struggle with these issues, that they know that I'm using as few and as clean and simple ingredients as I possibly can.

SPEAKER_01:

So you started with laundry soap, and what do you offer now? You say you have about approximately 10 different products that you have available.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. I have my laundry boosters now, which is a way to kind of get rid of your fabric softeners and your uh other scent additives. It's only a few ingredients in that as well, and it really is a great job of deodorizing your clothes, making them smell really clean and fresh. I have my room sprays, my magnesium oil sprays. That product has helped so many people with just pain and inflammation. Um, since 80% of people are low in magnesium, that has been one of my best sellers, even over the laundry soap now, now that people are finding out more about the magnesium sprays. Um, but I also offer some fun products. I have my sugar scrubs and my uh car air fresheners as well, all made with clean, non-toxic ingredients.

SPEAKER_01:

Can I tell you? I noticed the car freshener, and I right away went, I need to get those for my kids because I tell them you need to get rid of these chemical little deodorizers in the car.

SPEAKER_00:

They well, it's hard. It's hard because you want to have fun things, and you think, well, if they're selling it in the store, it can't be that bad. And that should be the case, but it isn't always um it isn't always the case. And if you don't know the information, you don't know you don't know what to avoid in the stores. So I I love offering that product as well because life should be fun and you should be able to have fun sense without worrying about those toxins and the microplastics and thyates and parabens and all of those crazy things that can somehow sneak into these products that we're inhaling from day to day. It's very scary. So I love that I can offer something that I know is safe for other people and it's safe for me to use.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I I love it too. I think it's it's huge. And that's another area that took me, took me a while to understand. I used to purchase certain candles I don't any longer, but this particular company had air fresheners that I ding ding ding, you know, it was a few years ago when it clicked that I went, oh, these are this is not okay. Like these are not, this does not contain clean ingredients. And again, it you know, it's um it takes a little time, but when you find what you're looking for, it's it's just to me, it's it's so um, it's exciting, but it's almost almost like calming. Like it's like there's a sense of peace. Like, oh my gosh, I have finally found what I can use that I can be confident in using for myself and my family. And that's that's what you've done. You I'm so impressed because do you have like a science chemical background, or how did you come up with the formulation?

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, I really don't. I'm really not qualified in anything. This was me in my kitchen just trying to see what would work. So I always say, like, it took me months to get the formula really down. And even when I started showing up at the farmers markets, the formula I was using that is not the one that I'm using now. It was the same basic ingredients, but it did not look very nice. It was kind of like chunky and crazy looking. And I would just basically like beg people like, hey, it it does work, it does clean your clothes, please try it and let me know what you want me to change about it because I can change it. So I if everyone was so welcoming and so nice enough to take my little cups of laundry soap home with them and actually take the risk and try it. So it's been a fun process, but it was really just trial and error for me. And kind of with all my products, there are other products that are more simple, like my sugar scrubs. You can look up just on Google simple recipes for sugar scrubs, and then I just kind of took it to another level and tweaked recipes to how I wanted them to be and changed them for what I liked, and that's kind of the case with each of my products.

SPEAKER_01:

And you do you formulate and put everything together in your home? Because I I I think you're gonna, girl, you're gonna need to maybe find a I don't maybe you already have a space, but because I think this could be huge.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, it's in the works. I'm so excited. I can't say a lot now, but I'm very excited about where things are heading. Because right now, yes, I have a little studio room in my home that I'm still manufacturing all the formulas, shipping everything out right from here, and I'm ready to move on to bigger things. I'm excited about it and I'm ready. It's gonna be a relief, but it's gonna also be a huge accomplishment that I'm so grateful to have the opportunity to get to do and get to run this company and this business.

SPEAKER_01:

For sure. Oh, I'm just so excited to hear that. I really am. I just I can just feel your heart in it, and I that just makes me so happy and thank you. It's somewhat new, so you know the fact that you're looking into maybe having a space to be able to do all your formulations. I think that's huge. In what less than two years, right?

SPEAKER_00:

Yes. Um, started in started in 2023 with like the samples and kind of still continuing testing. I didn't form my LLC until uh 2024, until last year, and then launched my website last year. So um it's it's really been an exciting and like whirlwind of a journey to get here.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, I I'm I'm I'm very proud of you, and you you motivate me, you're inspiring me right now as we speak. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00:

That means so much.

SPEAKER_01:

Really, truly. And you're doing this alongside being a wife, being a mom. How old are your kids?

SPEAKER_00:

I have one daughter right now. She is almost seven months old. So, yes, that's also been a whole adventure in itself.

SPEAKER_01:

My goodness. So you're you you birthed your business and then birthed your daughter. Not too much. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, pretty much back to back on that one. Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

That's amazing. So, how do you find the time? I mean, I'm sure you have a well, maybe you don't have to have such a structured schedule since you're working from home, but how does that fit in with having your daughter and having a family? Are you is it demanding? Are you able to kind of set your own schedule?

SPEAKER_00:

I do set my own schedule. I would say that I I feel that I could have grown faster if I had set more of a schedule business um base, which I do a ton for my business. And obviously, a lot of my time really goes into just production of the products at this point. I would love to be doing more for just advertisement. And now a lot of my time does go into just production of all of my products and getting them shipped out and delivered to the people who are buying them. But I have really focused on family right now. It's been my main focus, and I've really just been allowing myself to enjoy this time because I'm blessed enough to own my own business, and so I'm like, I'm just gonna take advantage of it. And I get done when I get done, and then when I don't get other things done, I just I do what I enjoy and enjoy time with my family. Um, I'm very grateful and blessed to be privileged enough to get to do that.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, good for you because you're right. I can speak from lots of experience. You want to you want to enjoy those moments because you can't get them back, right? So there's that exactly. I don't know if it's a balance so much so, but what you're doing is is really I would say so so good because I've always had the motto of you know, family first, no matter what's going on in our lives and business and work-wise, sometimes some families, some moms, some dads don't have the option as much or the flexibility.

SPEAKER_00:

It is, yeah, it's a privilege that I really appreciate.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, I I hear you. I because I I work from home, my husband does as well, and it's it's been such a huge blessing through the years. So, how did you I want to go back for just a second? How did you source and know how to find the ingredients? I mean, was it just a matter of just starting to just dive in and do the research?

SPEAKER_00:

When I first started, when I was still like considering myself a small business, Amazon was kind of my best friend because they're kind of the middle ground. Like you can order smaller amounts of raw ingredients, and um that was really what kept me going at first because it was it was finding I couldn't order the huge bulk quantities of things like some companies usually would need to order. I really didn't need that much, so Amazon was honestly my best friend at the beginning, and then since then, um a lot of the companies that I buy through on Amazon, they're companies in themselves, so I can order straight from them or in a pinch I can still order through Amazon, which is nice as well.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's nice to have that as an option, kind of a backup, I would I would guess, right? Yes, it so share a little bit, Savannah, with our listeners because this is something that I I've talked about, but I think it's important to hear also from you the importance of these clean products and the concerns with the plastics and the phthalates and the things that are in our products and in most so many different beauty products, skin products, and laundry soap and all the things that we use, we're getting exposed daily.

SPEAKER_00:

So, yes.

SPEAKER_01:

So, can you share a little bit some of the concerns?

SPEAKER_00:

There, I don't even know where to start. I'm very passionate about it, and it's I feel like every day I find I find out about something else that is in like products that are just on the store shelves that I used to use daily. That's a product that I used to use every day until I started making my own products. Um, just so many chemicals and things that they don't even have to list. Um, the word fragrance specifically, the FDA doesn't really regulate it. And that word alone can hide over 3,000 ingredients. So when a product when a product is scented and it just lists fragrance on there, you really don't know what is in it. That fragrance alone could contain at least 3,000 chemicals, at least 3,000 other ingredients in there. So I would definitely watch out for fragrance and make sure that you know where that fragrance is coming from. Definitely even essential oils, because as I source these oils to use, I've had to been be very careful because there are some companies out there that say that they sell essential oils and they come in and I read the ingredients, and it's actually a fragrance oil that they formulated, which some fragrance oils are safe, but it should not say essential oil on the front of the bottle if that's not what it is, because the process of making essential oils and actually distilling those oils from the plants is totally different than what it would take to make fragrance oils. Um, and thyates and parabens are another one, like you were talking about earlier, with scents and car scents and all of those things. A lot of them contain thyates and parabens, and those are microplastics. So we're breeding them in to our lungs. If it's in your body lotion or your body spray, you're spraying it on your skin, which is your largest, your largest organ. And over time it's going to catch up with you. You may not notice anything right now, but over time you may have health issues pop up seemingly out of nowhere, but it's not really out of nowhere. And that's why I think it's very important to talk about because we aren't told this information when we're in the store buying the products. There should be warnings on some of these things, and there are no warnings really for us.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, it's it's so important what you're sharing. And I know I I was just speaking at an event that I put on recently about this topic, and like you're saying, to your point, where there should be it should be more transparent. And honestly, I I am grateful that more and more information has been getting out over the past year or two, so people are becoming a little bit more aware, and that's always been my goal is to just increase that awareness so that people can start doing some of their own research. But it is alarming, it's like you're saying, all of these different chemicals that we're exposed to. And honestly, it goes back so many years and decades, and you know, I could say 30, 40 years ago, I didn't know anything about this. Like this was about almost 30 years ago, is probably when I started to get become a little bit more aware. But just think back to all of those decades prior and everything that's been going on, and I know there was a time things were a little bit cleaner for sure. It's it's just gotten worse. And like you're saying, they they trick us so much of the time as to what is actually in a product.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, I hate the greenwashing as well. Uh a lot of times I get asked if I have products similar to certain companies, and oh, I don't even want to say yes because I'm like, I just don't even want to be conflated with certain name brands because I know that their products are kind of greenwashed. And if because I I did the research into their products because I was using them. I thought, oh, this is healthier, this is better. And I bought all of their stuff and was using it every day and spending a lot of money on it. And when I did my own research, I realized it's it wasn't as clean as they were saying that it was, and I felt bad for spending the extra money towards those cleaner products. I thought I was doing the right thing. So I love that now is the time, the age that we can do our own research. We all have Google, we can hop on there and we can ask questions, we can do our own research, and that's what I encourage people to do. Don't trust me, go on there and search, search your questions for yourself, search these ingredients for yourself, and then make your decisions.

SPEAKER_01:

Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah, I'm right there with you. And I I too had an experience, and it's so interesting because I I share about it often, and it it was a product, it was a actually a protein shake for my son. And at the time he was five, and it was from a wellness company, so I just assumed, and then when I looked at the ingredients, it had artificial ingredients and artificial sweetener.

SPEAKER_00:

Wow.

SPEAKER_01:

I discovered that and I went, I'm sorry, bud, because he was into it, he was coming downstairs and making it shake, you know, and dig and really liking it. And I just said, I'm sorry. I just threw the rest of it in the trash. So it's it really is enlightening and so important to have the awareness. And sometimes it can be discouraging, but yet it's also again, like I said, it's always it's just so exciting to find someone like yourself who we can trust and who we can say, okay, she has clean, truly non-toxic products. I know there are some I see companies and people claim about their product is non-toxic, and I'm like, I don't think that it's not. It might be low, low toxic, but I would say it's not non-toxic. We have to be careful about the verbiage.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, and the verbiage in itself as well. Like, I could go down so many rabbit holes on that because all natural, there are some all-natural ingredients that are toxic. So it's still a struggle for me to decide what labels I want to put on. That's why I like coming on um podcasts and actually speaking about my products, because I want you to know who I am and why I started this, because I can tell you that it's all natural and I can tell you that I have non-toxic products. Um, but I want you to know what that actually means because all natural doesn't always mean safe, and there are still all natural ingredients that you want to be careful with.

SPEAKER_01:

It's so true. It really is. And was there any one incident in your life? I know sometimes I know for me personally, like I when I first became pregnant, I started looking more intensely at labels, and then I dealt, and then later on, my mom battled cancer, and later on my dad had some various illnesses. So each time it kind of lit the fire under me to do more and to find out more. What did you have an experience like that, or it was just truly looking for non-toxic products?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it was more about getting my hormones in check. I was trying to balance my hormones. I had some issues after going on birth control, which is a whole other topic, um, but I didn't know anything about it, and I kept having these issues, and finally um I decided to go off of birth control and try to just get my hormones checked out and into the healing myself. And from there, I started working on the foods, but I really latched on to the products because I felt like foods were so overwhelming. Like I knew like basic things that I could do, get in some more protein and kind of cut out some of these artificial, um, really highly processed foods. But for me, I kind of grabbed on to the low-hanging fruit of well, I know that these products in my home are not very good for me, so I'm gonna try to get rid of those and swap them for something healthier just on with just with the goal of healing my my body and healing my hormones. And that's really where all of it started to like learning about the fragrances that I was just spraying on every day, the shampoos, the body washes that I was using, and how those can really be such high toxic endocrine disruptors and really harm even your gut. You don't think about your shampoo or your body spray harming your gut, but they really can, especially over time.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's so true. Thank you for sharing that because it's it's so important for our listeners to hear that and to know that because it is, it it adds up over time, and an underlying risk with so many of these chemicals is like you're talking about, being an interconnected disruptor affecting our hormones. And it's it's an ongoing, it's an ongoing concern for sure. How can people find you, Savannah, that want to reach out? I'll I will add all your information in the show notes, but how what's the best place for people to reach out to you?

SPEAKER_00:

Thank you so much. You can find me on Instagram and Facebook at SafeandSound Soap Co. And I'm also on TikTok at Safe and Sound Soap Co. And my website is safeandsoundsoapco.com, safe and soundsoapco.com. And you can read more about my story there. We have recently launched our subscription program. So if you're interested in getting our products delivered to your house every month or every other month, you can go on there and choose one of those options.

SPEAKER_01:

I love it. Well, I I just want to encourage our listeners go to your go to your website. I will put the website in the show notes for sure. And just I know we could talk for a long time about this topic for sure.

SPEAKER_00:

Yes, because like you said, we both have passion. We're kind of ping ping ponging back and forth, just feeding off of each other, but I've enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_01:

For sure, for sure. And I just I I so appreciate you sharing and and being on today. And like I said, I'm excited to share. I'm gonna share, share about your site and spread the word. And this is so important for just the health. It's just the complete wellness for for ourselves and our families and future generations. That's a big motivation for me, is like we need to really be thinking about future generations.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, you have a and now is the best time. Now is the the best time than ever. I feel like it's it's kind of I I don't know if I want to use the word trending, but I guess. More eyes are being opened. So the more that we can talk about it and shed light on it, the more that these people that are kind of hanging on the sidelines and kind of just curious that they can actually hear real information about it.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, 100%. That is so good. So, what would you like to share? Any last words of wellness or inspiration you'd like to share?

SPEAKER_00:

Words of wellness. I think just start with one thing at a time. So you can overwhelm yourself and try to get rid of all of your products or try to change your entire diet and just one thing at a time and really giving yourself grace in the whole process of everything. So good.

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I love that. And I agree wholeheartedly. Well, I'm excited for you, Savannah. I know I keep saying that, but I really am because I still feel like it's an ongoing journey, always like looking and looking at labels and trying products. And I'm seeing more and more, and I'm sure you are too, people asking, like, what do you use for your laundry? What's non-toxic that you loot use for your soap? And so it's definitely there's definitely a need that you're feeling. So I'm I'm thrilled. We're gonna have to we're gonna have to have you back in a few months and do a little check on check-in on the successes of courses. I would love to come back. Have you back and see what other products you've added and all of the things. So thank you again so much. This has been such a pleasure having you. Thank you. And to our listeners, make sure you check out Savannah's site, Safe and Sound Soap Company, and take some time for do to do something for your own personal wellness on this day and always, and have a beautiful, blessed rest of your week, everyone. We'll see you next time. Hi, my friends. Hopping in here for just a quick moment to share with you that this episode is brought to you by Moms Who Flourished, where we empower moms to put their wellness, their health, and their self-care as a priority. And we have an upcoming Moms Who Flourished mentorship program that will be starting in January. But you don't have to wait till then because we are going to have a four-week healthy habits into the holidays program starting very soon. So stay tuned for details. And as always, you can reach out for more information at Wellness with Shelley J on Instagram or at Moms Who Flourish on Instagram. Thank you so much for tuning into today's episode. I hope you gained value and enjoyed our time together as much as I did. And if you know someone who could benefit from today's episode, I would love and appreciate it if you could share with a friend or rate and review Words of Wellness so that more can hear this message. I love and appreciate you all. Thank you for listening. And if you have any questions or topics you would like me to share in future episodes, please don't hesitate to reach out to me through my contact information that is shared in the show notes below. Again, thank you for tuning in to Words of Wellness. My name is Shelley Jeffries, and I encourage you to do something for you, for your wellness on this day. Until next time, I hope you all have a healthy, happy, and blessed week.