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Waves with Wireless Nerd
Unleashing Wireless Wonders: Navigating Innovations from the OnGo 2024 Awards, Digital Revamps of Classic Phone Boxes, 300Tb/s connections, and the Nomadix acquisition by Assa Abloy!
Get ready to ride the airwaves with me, Drew Lentz, your Wireless Nerd, as we jet through the electrifying developments and innovations shaping the world of wireless technology. Soak in the reflections of the week, where we peel back the layers of enterprise advancements and grassroots movements that are revolutionizing connectivity. Engage with a vibrant podcast roundtable that dishes out a platter of fresh takes on wireless innovation's trajectory, and join me in applauding the transformative effects of CBRS technology, spotlighting OnGo's awards for companies strides in connecting underrepresented areas.
Strap on your tech gear for a deep dive into the telecommunications landscape with the latest gizmos and FCC shake-ups. Ever wondered how a wearable device could redefine network performance assessment? Enter Omnibuddy – not your average wearable but a game-changer for realistic network analysis - now it's been acquired by lock company Assa Abloy; what does this mean? We'll also navigate the repercussions of Starlink's spectrum setback and marvel at how the UK is giving old phone boxes a digital facelift. These relics of the past are morphing into Wi-Fi hotspots and charging stations, embodying the essence of accessible digital infrastructure for communities.
And as we wrap up, don't think it's all high-tech talk; nature's hijinks with Wi-Fi signals and cutting-edge research on data transfer will keep you on your toes. Connect with us on this journey through the whimsical to the profound, as we share stories that underscore the boundless potential and quirky challenges of the wireless domain.
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What's up everybody? It's Drew Lentz, the Wireless Nerd, and I am feeling like I am in a go-go bordello punk rock mood. Today. It's six o'clock, it's April 2nd. Yesterday was April Fool's Day, which was a lot of fun. I'm checking right now.
Speaker 1:My little stream looks pretty good. I got a lot of stuff going on here, look. So I've been trying to do small upgrades as we go. So I've got my little Chiron down there so you can see my name and a little at wireless nerd Looks pretty good. Matches my shirt. Figured I would go with red today. But a couple of other things.
Speaker 1:First off, today's episode is brought to you by NetAlly and the new Cyberscope Air and to learn more about that, I have an awesome interview coming up. After the traditional wave stuff, I'm going to make a jump and you're going to hear a great interview with Julio and Dan. We're going to talk about the Cyberscope Air. We're going to talk about NetAlly and where they are, and this is going to be a new format. So what we'll do is we'll do the what's new, what's now, what's next, we'll take a little break and then we'll go ahead and we'll jump right into a message or an interview. So I've been lining up. You know, just stay tuned and I'll be dropping those, and if I haven't interviewed you yet and this is something that you want to chat on, please feel free to drop me a message and we'll try and work you in there. But either way, it's a Tuesday and there's a lot going on.
Speaker 1:Coming off of the Ubiquity World Conference last week, really, you know, giving me a really good state as to, you know, an idea of what the state of wireless is at a couple of different levels, not just at this big enterprise level, but down, you know, from the bottom up. It's been really fun, so it's allowed me to process a lot of things that are going on this week. We had a great podcast roundtable session with the guys with Tom and Jesse last week. That was really cool to get to know some new people and get their opinions as to what's going on in the world of wireless, and that's awesome. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to go ahead and jump into some of this stuff.
Speaker 1:Look, check this out. By the way, I need some help seeing if the chat works. I have a little button. Look at this. Let's see if I press this button Apparently the chat. Where is it Wrong direction? Over there? The chat is ready to display message. If you send something. I want to see if it pops up. So if you're listening which there's a handful of you that are I would appreciate if you just drop in a little message like an lol, or put in a meme or a poop emoji or something like that and let me see if this populates in here live as we're talking. So I'm gonna give it just a few seconds to do that, because I want to see if this is actually working, because I think it would be kind of cool if it is, I could see it on the live stream. But you know, this is one of those. Let's test it out and let's do it live, let's have some fun with it. Lots of stuff to get to.
Speaker 1:Today there's been some interesting developments in the industry, which, as usual, there always are, and that you know it's cool. I that you know it's cool. I mean we've seen a lot of action this week. All right, no one's sending messages. That's cool. Go ahead, send a message. I'll just leave that thing up and we'll see if it pops up, and if it does, then I'll take it down.
Speaker 1:Anyway, first and foremost, the OnGo Award winner. So OnGo is part of the CBRS Alliance and what they do is they nominate and award people from the Ongo Alliance for their use of CBRS technology and some of the things that they're doing. And there were some great additions this year If you go look at the Ongo Alliance the people that were awarded in a WISP Ongo deployment. The winner was Pentane Networks with Local2U and Bicel, so this is something that we're seeing a lot of right now. Local2u delivers hybrid WISP and MVNO services with CBRS to underserved areas in West Virginia. So these are the 2023 award winners and the finalists and again, the ongoing awards program is presented by the ongoing alliance. It recognizes innovation and delivering real world ongoing solutions and highlights the market impact of shared spectrum in the three and a half gig CBRs band. So, uh, I think I was awarded or we were up for a nomination or something with one of these for the work that I did down here in the city of mcallen. I don't don't remember if we won or not. I think. I think somebody won. I'm sure somebody would anyway. But what you're seeing is that the excellence in a wisp ongo deployment, pentate networks and then ongoing state local and education was BlueArchis and then another one.
Speaker 1:In on-go innovation there were more of the people that are providing the services, the orchestration services and the backend services. But what's been interesting is you just see, like Bicells, bicells, bicells across the board and I've been thinking a lot about this. Biceels is just really doing a good job making these three and a half gig base stations, these 430s. Man, they're simple, they're easy. The 436s are great pieces of equipment. I've got one sitting, the 430, sitting out back here. I've got that connected to the old FreedomFi stuff. I'm going to be flashing that and getting my Helium network, my Nova Labs network, up and running this week, so that should be a lot of fun. But Bicells has really been the go-to for this. Lots of people in the industry making equipment, but Bicells has done a really good job partnering with a lot of companies. So what you see is you see the orchestration companies that are winning the awards using the Bicells equipment. So Pentane Networks using Bicells, some of the stuff that I just deployed using Aleph, using the Bicelles network. Next week when we have the podcast, I've got my little featured segment. It's me using the equipment using Raman's orchestration and backend services as network, as service using Bicelles equipment. So lots of things are happening there.
Speaker 1:But the one that sticks out to me, and what's interesting on top of that real quick, is to talk about the hardware JMA won for the Open RAN deployable frontline operations. Jma is such a cool company. They make some great equipment. I think the difference between JMA and Bicel is just, from a very, very basic perspective, is going to be cost. Jma seems to be a little bit more of a I don't want to say better equipment, but a little bit more deeply engineered equipment than the Bicel stuff. And you for that. But jma has got a incredible reputation in the industry. So they won the award for excellence and ongoing innovation for their 5g open rand deployable.
Speaker 1:Now to get back to the other side, um pentane networks is one left is no one, so blue arcus. Blue arcus delivered private 5g and 4g using cvrs for first responders in health care and low-income communities in Spokane, washington. But the other one that I looked at was Druid and Kajeet. And when you couple together the neutral host architecture solution InfiniiG was up for it and JMA was up for it with their multi-service, multi-operator side that they deployed in the Nobu Hotel in Vegas I've got a huge soft spot in my heart for Joel at Infinigi because I know how hard he's worked. Not that the other guys haven't worked as hard, but Joel's done an incredible job with what he's doing with Infinigi, and so much so that they won the judge's choice award at OnGo for their neutral host as a service solution. Druid and Conjeet does some of that and they won the award for the University of Virginia neutral host program that they deployed.
Speaker 1:And basically, if you think about a mobile network operator Timo, at&t, verizon these guys are acting as the, not just the orchestration and the configuration of the existing base stations and the you know the buy sales equipment or you know JMA equipment that they put out there, but then the actual contracts with the carriers. And that, to me, is the important part, because anyone can make hardware. But man, it's like pulling teeth for people to get these contract negotiations in place between AT&T, t-mobile and Verizon. And a lot of it has to do with location. A lot of it has to do with E911, getting emergency services to people where they are, when they are. A lot of that's very difficult and then making sure that whatever hardware solution they work with is something that will actually work with what the carriers are trying to do by doing that locationing. So really interesting to see there. Khajiit is that Newsreel host provider, and then Infinigi won the award for the Judge's Choice Award. So congratulations to everyone out there. On-go device innovation, cts, sitenet, job site, wireless internet services using private cellular and Wi-Fi to improve productivity. They were one of the other winners that were in there. For a full list, go to ongoawardsorg. So congrats to everyone for winning the awards.
Speaker 1:On the OnGo Alliance, I'm a huge fan of what CBRS does, and so it's always great to see OnGo getting out there and recognizing the people that did it. Now, how much of that's paid for, I don't know. Like you know, elephant in the room is that in order to participate, you usually have to pay some type of fee to be a part or to be recognized like an administrative cost for the award. So I don't know what the OnGo one looks like for that, but feel free to drop something in the comments if you know either what it is or what it isn't. I'm always curious that the pay to play model is something that I'm not a fan of too much, just because it's like dude, you don't want to buy the award. I'd rather people get awarded for the hard work that they do. Not saying that OnGo doesn't do that, just saying that traditionally you see a lot of that in our beautiful tech industry Moving on uh, in the, in the, the what's new, and then what's now.
Speaker 1:Right now, that's what's now, that's what's going on on goes uh you know the award winners from there but also, uh, asa abloy just acquired nomatics and I thought that that was really interesting because asa abloy is traditionally a lock company, right. So having them move into network selection and network services seems kind of like a weird jump. But at the same time it makes perfect sense Because if you think about how many hotels are using these devices and what they're going to need in order to access those devices, this seems like a like a step in the like, a good step in the infrastructure direction. But they didn't just acquire nomatics, they acquired, they acquired global reach, which was the parent company of nomatics. And if you you go back to when Nomadics sold to NDT and all the other stuff back and forth there, global Reach in the US and the UK was this group that not only did guest services but they actually did MDUs, they did deployments for hospitality and for multiple dwelling units, that Asa Abloy not just got into the space of acquiring the hardware vendor, nomadix, but also into the services space by moving forward with all of Global Reach in the US and the UK. That means that Asa Abloy is now in the deployment business.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know what this is going to look like, and so in the article in hotelmanagementnet a great, you get a lot of good information there. They said that it was licensed, security access, user authentication that's why they acquired them and includes satellite authentication, digital engagement. It will expand our core business capabilities and expertise as well as continue to provide our customers with enhanced value when delivering on demands for customer tailored, custom tailored solutions. Now, does that, I'm telling you, does that mean that they're getting into this, into the deployment model? Adding the capabilities of Nomadics and GlobalRe reach to our existing solutions portfolio represents our continued effort to serve as a comprehensive provider of advanced technology, says Li Wang, svp and head of hospitality. We look forward to leveraging their expertise to serve customers seeking out solutions capable of delivering blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:Are they getting into the deployment? I wonder if they will. They're going to operate as two separate entities under a central top management, but does this mean that they're going to start getting into the deployment? I think I've asked that like four times. So that's what I'm curious about. And if they do, okay, that's interesting. It wouldn't be the first hardware manufacturer to get into the deployment business.
Speaker 1:But other questions arise, like are they going to keep the Wi-Fi product line? Nomadics just launched a Wi-Fi product line and one of the cool things that they had I was talking about this the other day is that little sensor that they set up that you can wear around, that the housekeepers wear around their neck, not only to act as an alert call button but to check the signal strength of what's going on on the wireless network, and I don't remember the name of it. So if you just bear with me while I bang on my keyboard for a second, I'm going to look it up, because I remember meeting with the gentleman at Hitech that developed the technology and then sold it to Nomadix. But are they going to keep it? Are they going to trash it? Are they going to move into all of this? I don't know. Let me see here. I don't want to mess it up and say it's something else. Let me go click on my little LinkedIn and click on people and show up on someone's search results. Don't you love that? It's one of my favorite things about LinkedIn is you can see who's looking at your deal.
Speaker 1:Benoit, there he is, benoit Le Gall. He had a company that he sold to Nomadics and it was called Omnibuddy, omnibuddy, omnibuddy he's still there product and business development. So, benoit, if you're listening, fantastic. But Omnibuddy, if you look it up, was the little thing that housekeepers would wear and it allowed them to not only have an alert button if something was going on with them, but then it would measure the signal strength, the RSSI, the SNR, the throughput, all this stuff. It would run these tests from the housekeeper's necklace. And that was pretty cool, because we get in this conversation about how do you make a sensor that feeds data back into the system to let you know how well your network's working in a way that you can control that environment.
Speaker 1:And the problem with putting it on someone's phone or putting it on a device that they carry is it gets shoved into a cart or in somebody's pocket. And what was interesting having a conversation recently about that it's like, well, if that's going to be the worst case scenario. If it's going to be in someone's pocket and you still have to deliver high speed services, you know, like updates and email and whatever, while it's in somebody's pocket, then it's okay, because you want to see the worst case scenario and then you can really judge your network based on how bad it's working. So that was one perspective. My perspective was well, that's great, but I wanted a bit more of a realistic view and I think wearing that thing around your neck might give that to you. So that all gets wrapped up into are they going to keep it? What is Asa Albaloi going to keep and what are they going to get rid of? I don't think there's gonna be anybody's names. Jeremy, you're always on on my linkedin, give me high fives. So, uh, maybe you can shed some light. If you guys don't know jeremy, that means that you've never used nomadics products, and if you have used nomadics products and you absolutely know jeremy, because he is a incredible resource there at nomadics. So now moving on to what's going on right now.
Speaker 1:Starlink's FCC request for more spectrum denied. They tried to go up and say, hey, we'd love some of that spectrum the Global Star has been using and it's exclusive to Global Star and Dish. They were trying to use the regions of spectrum, the 1.6 and 2.4 gigahertz bands and two gigs that include those bands exclusive to Global Star and Dish, and the FCC said that those bands are unequipped to handle large leo constellation transmissions, leo low earth orbiting that's what that stands for. The original application for bands was filed over a year ago by spacex but they're still working with t-mobile to try and use their 1.9 gigahertz band to do some of that. So t-mobile's got that spectrum and if you follow that back, that's that whole T-Mobile cell phone that can talk to the Internet, can talk to space right using, you know, talk to the Internet via space using the Starlink network on a T-Mobile device, and they were able to get some pretty good throughputs there. They did a test of it a while back and I want to see. I don't remember exactly what the numbers were, but they had this really cool thing 17 megabit per second is what they were able to hit talking to space. So definitely no shortage there of connectivity. It can probably only go up from there. But their struggle to figure out where they get that spectrum continues to go. So that's what's going on right now.
Speaker 1:Also, if you are in the UK, I believe, or is it? Let's see. Where is this? Figure out? Where they get that spectrum continues to go. So that's what's going on right now.
Speaker 1:Also, if you are in the uk, I believe, or is it, let's see, where is this? Uh, is free mobile charging and wi-fi coming to a street near you? Bt reveals plans to convert thousands of old phone boxes uh all across the uk. So if you think about the new york city program uh, the nyc, I think it was called the link, the new york city program to provide free Wi-Fi access where they used to have those they used to have traditional pay phones Then it will allow. You know, they retrofitted them and put some Wi-Fi in there, put some connectivity in there, and now they're adding wireless charging in there. Almost a thousand Street Hub 2 units are already dotted across the country and the number of phone boxes peaked in the 90s around 100, 000, so there's 20 000 of pay phones are still active today, but now 2000 are set to receive that revamp. So all across the uk kind of cool, and some of them will be able to provide 4g and 5g connectivity as well. So it's great to see some of these things moving out and people repurposing ways to get connectivity out into their communities. Speaking of that, the ACP stuff, that's it. April 2nd, here we go. Acp's done in the US.
Speaker 1:Now people are going to be scrambling looking for ways to connect their communities to the Internet. You know me, I just went on a rant about this and about how I don't think you should have to wait for fiber. You should really focus on finding connectivity solutions that solve the problem and give you a path moving forward. So you know, you know me, I'm wireless first and I think that a comprehensive strategy is better than just, you know, one single leg to stand on just saying fiber, fiber, fiber. Why not build mobile and then build out fiber to supply access to that mobile and then everyone can be happy? But a lot of things are going to be coming down the road. Especially it's good to see that those ongoing awards are supporting what's happening in three and a half gig and with CBRS, because that private LTE and that private 5G service, leveraging those bands, is definitely going to be needed as we move into an era where ACP is gone and where people are looking for cost effective connectivity in their neighborhoods.
Speaker 1:In my opinion, speaking of neighborhoods, a massive facial recognition program was just rolled out in the Gaza Strip. This was interesting to read, not getting political. Please do not take this as political. This is tech right. Corside, a Tel Aviv-based company, built the tools to identify specific members of Hamas, and their officers are saying it's often inaccurate. That's not the point. The point is that they've now deployed some of this and basically the program, which was crafted after October 7th, uses technology from Google Photos as well as custom built tools by the Tel Aviv based company, coresight to identify people affiliated with Hamas. So, if you think about the larger ramifications of this, you set up a whole camera network and you look through your Google photos and you find someone, person of interest, that you want to look at and you're able to load that in. It does that facial recognition that goes out and seeks and finds where they are and when they are Kind of interesting, but at a scale like this it's kind of interesting to see for that entire area. So we'll see what happens as things like this progress, but it's, you know, a step in that direction of the facial recognition and using AI from cameras as sensors not cameras as cameras, but cameras as sensors to determine where people are going.
Speaker 1:I thought that was interesting, especially when you think about how many of those are going to have to be deployed over a wireless network. You're not going to be running fiber at all these. You're not going to be running copper at all these. You are going to have to be deployed over a wireless network. You're not going to be running fiber at all. These are going to be running copper at all these. You're going to want to put something up quick and easy. That's got a solar power and a camera feeds back, be a 4g or 5g and they can do a lot of that compute on the edge and then just in the results of what it's getting on the backend. So definitely an application for wireless. And that could one of those secure, private LTE or private 5G deployments that are out there. So fun to think about. All right, what else we got? That's what's new, that's what's now.
Speaker 1:Engineers solved the mystery of unstable Wi-Fi connects only when it's raining. This was an interesting article from gigazinenet G-I-G-A-Z-I-N-E gigazinenet. They ran this article and I thought it was funny to read. It said engineers solve the mystery of an unstable Wi-Fi connection where it only connects when it's raining. And so if you go and you read the article, it talks about the rain filling up a small tree that's in an area and as soon as the rain goes away and the tree dries, the Wi-Fi connection works just well. But they didn't think it was causing a problem because it wasn't in direct line of sight, or at least they didn't think it was in direct line of sight. And so when they swapped out from 802.11g to 802.11n now, all ofa sudden it became less problematic. So if you're at gigazinenet I had never been to this website before, but I see the Wi-Fi World Congress banner advertisement on top of it. So I've never been to gigazine, but I thought that that was fun, a fun little read.
Speaker 1:You know, it's one of those things where you get so invested in your career and everything that you do that you think you have all the answers right. And I got into that mode. Like at 4 o'clock in the morning I jumped on Reddit and I started answering questions in the Wi-Fi subreddit. Just for fun. Go do that, like have some fun. Why not, man? I mean that, like have some fun, why not, man? I mean, what else are you doing at three or four o'clock in the morning? But it was interesting to to go through that and just go find people they're asking some some pretty basic questions and give them some very, uh, basic answers anyway. Okay, so what else we got? Um, the the last thing I wanted to touch on was 301 terabytes per second over fiber.
Speaker 1:In partnership with the national institute of information and communications technology in japan and nokia bell Labs in the US, aston researchers were able to transfer data at 301 million megabits per second using standard optical fiber. Now, this is interesting, because the thing here isn't that they were able to transmit a whole bunch of data, it was that they were able to transmit a whole bunch of data over existing fiber. To me, that was pretty cool. Now, the way that they did it, that's the big question. Right Alongside the commercially available C and L bands, they used additional spectral bands called the E band and the S band. Now, those bands traditionally haven't been required because the C and L bands were perfectly capable of providing all the capacity that consumers need. Well, now that they opened these up, it was pretty interesting. It's remarkable. It does not require new infrastructure to drastically improve internet speeds and could allow significantly faster internet speeds through existing fibers. And they did it by transmitting different colored light frequencies. That's all. This is just multiple frequencies. And so they found these other frequencies that they pushed across. They hit 301 TB per second. What 301 terab TB per second? What 301 terabits per second? That's pretty awesome, man. So congratulations to the team that's doing that.
Speaker 1:Now it wouldn't be a fun show unless I start talking about what's going on next in the world of events, and I think that there's a couple coming up right now. Well, let me see here. What month are we in? We're in April I saw the wireless community. Peter McKenzie was advertising talking about the wireless community. I think it's going to be in the Netherlands. I'm not 100% sure. But if you go look up WICO, w-i-c-o, you can see what's going on with the wireless community program. It's really cool. It's just like a meet and greet for wireless nerds. And let me jump on Peter Mac's deal here. Let's see, it's the wireless wireless community.
Speaker 1:Gathering the herds Manchester. Gathering the herds at Manchester, uk, 11th and 12th July 2024. Tickets are on sale now. And let's see what we got. I'm going to click on the link live here. Locations at the Stoller Hall about this event. There's going to be a bunch of nerds there Doesn't show everyone who's going to be there, but it definitely, you know. It definitely should be a lot of fun. So Thursday, july 11th 2024, 9 to Friday 11 or 12, July 2024, 1700 hours. Please join us for Wireless Community Event in Manchester, uk, hours. Um, please join us for wireless community event in manchester, uk I was wrong, not netherlands, manchester.
Speaker 1:The event promises to be fun and informative, where you can learn from some of the brightest minds in our industry, like peter mckinsey. The agenda is put together in such a way to leave plenty of room for informal chat networking. They're going to be using the hashtag wico w-i-c-o, so just look for the hashtag w-i-c-o and see what's going on with this event. They have some other events that are coming up. They've done a few in the past and this is a really cool program. It's one of those like built from the community, for the community by the community, etc. Etc. So look up, mr Peter McKenzie, if you're interested, and make sure you can see if you can make it out for that thing that's coming up.
Speaker 1:The Wi-Fi Now World Congress, usa 2024, is coming up april 22nd through 24th in sarasota, florida, bringing together the world's wi-fi industry leaders for three days in the magical gulf coast city of sarasota, which is just south of tampa, so you're going to want to fly into tampa, I think. Um, they're gonna be talking about six gig. They're gonna be talking about home and enterprise. They're gonna be talking talking about different innovations and devices and if you've never been to one of Klaus's shows, it's a really good show. You find a lot of people that you do some great networking with there and it's just a good group of people this year Erica McLaughlin from Vice President of Wireless Solutions from Intel. Elizabeth Parks from Parks Associates, robert Gross from Worldview.
Speaker 1:The mayor of Sarasota, ms Liz Alper, will be there. The ex-commissioner from the FCC, ajit Pai, will be there he's now a searchlight capital. Tony Lival, matt Swartz from Cisco If you guys know Matt, he's the king of building wireless for stadiums, he's so good at that. Dorothy Stanley, standards architect from Aruba. Bart Jodano tons of people. Nick Butler, dan Myers, mr Dean Boobly will be there. Who else, man God? This goes on and on. Ferney Munoz I know that guy, he's a pretty cool guy. Howard Buzik from American Bandwidth. Todd Myers from GoZone, ubility, wi-fi Now, wi-fi Now.
Speaker 1:There's trainers. All kinds of great people are going to be there. So go, look at wi-fi now globalcom, and look at what they've got going on in sarasota. It's great networking opportunity, fun people will be there. It's going to be a couple days. Should be a lot of. Should be a lot of good times.
Speaker 1:Uh, I have a pass to go out there. I also have a promo code for people that are interested in attending. If you'd like to attend for 50% off, let me open up my Gmail and find that promo code for you real quick. Klaus was kind enough to send one over to me and he put out a deal when the layoffs first hit at Cisco, he put out a deal inviting anyone that was affected to reach out to him and he would give them a pass to the show, and so I think a couple of people took advantage of that.
Speaker 1:And now my promo code. Let me see if I can find it here. I think it's something super simple, but let me just put it out here. I think there's only there's only a handful of them, so if you want one, my promo code for 50 off of tickets at wi-fi now global congress is wwc. Sarasota drew 50. So wwc s-a-r-a-s-o-t-a-d-r-e-w-5-0, again wwc s-a-r-a-s-o-t-a-d-r-e-w-5-0. I've got five passes. That he's. Let me go for 50 off these tickets. So wwc sarasota drew 50.
Speaker 1:Go ahead and use that code. Um, there's a link you can click on or, once you add it to your shopping cart, just plug that code in. If you have any problems, let me know. I would appreciate you guys doing that. Let let Klaus know that you support the podcast. So if you're going to register for it, just make sure you use my fancy promo code.
Speaker 1:I'm not going to publish it anywhere, let's just see how this works. Just going to put it on here on the podcast. And if someone you know is going to Wi-Fi Now World Congress, let them know that they can save 50% by using my magical code. So, that being said, we're going to be out there. Let's see if there's anything in the chat. Anyone give me any chat messages? No, no chat messages. That's okay. That's all right. I'm going to jump on LinkedIn real quick and see if there's any messages, because sometimes people like to jump on LinkedIn and just leave comments on there, but I did this at six o'clock in the afternoon on a Tuesday, so I'm not sure that there's anybody there. All right.
Speaker 1:Well, as I mentioned, this episode is brought to you by NetAlly and the new Cyberscope Air. It's a new device that they let a lot of people play with at WLPC, and then the people that got to use it in the training class actually walked away with one. So I'm going to jump over to my interview with Julio and with Dan. I'm going to see if this thing plays. I've got a cool little button here that I can press and there we go. See, look there, I got a hello, drew. I'm going to put the chat back on. Let's see. Did it work? Oh, I don't know why it didn't. I don't know why I do it shows up in one and not the other. I don't know, maybe it had to be before. But, mark, I appreciate you giving me a hello. Drew. That's great to see. I've got 30 people on X right now, a handful of people on YouTube right now, a couple of two, three people on LinkedIn. Hopefully I would have gotten chat. But all right, without further ado, I'm going to go ahead and