Are Angels Trying to Get Your Attention? — With Mark Mezadourian

What if the universe has been trying to speak to you your entire life… but you’ve simply been too distracted to notice?

In this deeply thoughtful and surprisingly practical conversation, intuitive teacher Mark Mezadourian joins me to explore angels, guides, synchronicity, healing, manifestation, and the quiet ways spirit tries to get our attention every single day.

Mark shares the extraordinary anxiety-induced awakening that launched him into the spiritual world after a powerful encounter involving Archangel Michael, dark energy in his apartment, and a series of synchronicities that completely changed the direction of his life.

But this episode goes far beyond angel stories.

Together, we explore what spirituality actually looks like in the modern world — from anxiety, overstimulation and phone addiction… to intuition, trauma healing, nervous system regulation, manifestation, conscious adulthood, and humanity’s spiritual awakening.

This conversation is grounded, expansive, funny in places, and full of wisdom that feels genuinely usable.

If you’ve ever wondered whether spirit is trying to guide you… this episode may make you look at your life very differently.

What you’ll hear

•  Mark’s dramatic awakening through anxiety and spiritual crisis 
•  His first experiences connecting with Archangel Michael 
•  Why spirituality should make “the world bigger” 
•  How guides, angels and spirit communicate through synchronicities 
•  Songs, repeating numbers and subtle signs from the universe 
•  Your own relationship with your spirit guides and your grandfather 
•  Why suffering often becomes the doorway to awakening 
•  Manifestation, intention and aligning action with energy 
•  The impact of phones, overstimulation and modern life on intuition 
•  Anxiety, nervous system regulation and spiritual sensitivity 
•  Why humanity may be going through a collective awakening 
•  Trauma healing, conscious adulthood and spiritual growth 
•  Letting go of control and learning to trust guidance 
•  Why fun, hope and connection matter spiritually 
•  A beautiful closing prayer for listeners from Mark 

Who this episode is for

•  Anyone curious about angels, guides or synchronicity 
•  People going through awakening, anxiety or major life change 
•  Spiritual seekers wanting practical spirituality 
•  Empaths and highly sensitive people 
•  Those feeling disconnected, overwhelmed or burnt out 
•  Anyone wanting reassurance that they are not alone 

Gentle note

This episode contains discussion around anxiety, emotional overwhelm, trauma, and spiritual experiences. Please listen gently and take what resonates for you.

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Transcript

– Welcome to Soul Sync

Charlie Kelly Medium 0:10

Hello to you, my lovely listener. It's me, Medium Jason Paul, and it's as lovely as it ever is to have you here with me. Now, this next guest who's on today, his name Mark Mesadurian. He works as an intuitive who connects with angels, guides, ancestors, and animal guides to offer spiritual support. He made me laugh a lot because you can tell when someone explains something who's had a rich tapestry of experience, there's a certain humor one can have. And Mark uh did make me smile a lot through this conversation. He describes how he had a spiritual awakening after an anxiety attack in 1997. His first powerful experience involved calling on Archangel Michael to clear dark energy from his apartment, and how spirituality helped him realize it's not all on me. We talked about the role of unconditional love as a healing force and how us empaths and sensitive people need time alone sometimes and we can really absorb the energy of negative people and people who are mood hoovers, we feel it more than anything. So, you know, how do we protect our energy and protect our environment? That's what me and Mark talk about today on this conversation. We also talk about how Mark starts the day with prayer, intention, and spiritual connection and what that really does for him energetically. And there's a lot to be said in what we discussed. We also discussed how guidance can arrive through songs, synchronicities, and repeated messages. We can get signs from the other side and question them so often. You know, I hear all the time people saying, Well, I've got this, but how do I know it's from the other side? Quite frankly, I think it's all about how it makes you feel. Um, sometimes I think when I go back in my journey, I don't want the spirit world to slap me in the face with a two-ton lorry before I finally realise that they were real. I've needed a lot of evidence along the way and I've needed a lot of convincing because I'm not someone that came to even believe this easily, which might sound crazy considering my granddad was a medium. Um, but me and Mark, we do have a laugh on this um on this uh interview today, and he's a lovely soul, and he does talk as well about how um really just listen to the way that you feel rather than just going through life ignoring it. So, Mark, firstly, welcome to the SoulSync podcast. Thank you so much, Jason.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

I'm so happy to be here.

Charlie Kelly Medium 2:54

Well, very happy to have you here. Thank you very much. So, I guess let's start. Introduce yourself, Mark. I've I know a bit about you, but please, the floor is yours.

– Mark’s work with angels and guides

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Thank you. I'm an intuitive who specializes in in connecting with angels and guides, and my goal with that work is to make that process simple, practical, and repeatable. So it's not woo-woo, it's not out there, that it's very practical and accessible, and that we are all hardwired for intuition and to heal, and to very simply build a relationship with the guides that we have the most affinity for, which could be angels, could be guides, could be ancestors, could be animals, and to let that that relationship, those relationships make the world bigger. So the whole point of spirituality is to add options, to make the world bigger. And in times where we feel constricted by anything, anxiety, fear, whatever it is, to add something that makes the world bigger for us. How did you come into this world?

– Anxiety, awakening and the beginning of his spiritual path

Charlie Kelly Medium 4:02

Not literally. I'm I'm I'm I can't probably know the answer to that one, Mark, but how long have you been in this world?

– The Archangel Michael apartment experience

SPEAKER_00 4:10

The spiritual world when in in when I was 30 in in 1997, I had an anxiety attack that was super informative. And it out of that I became hyper-spiritual. And from being a very cynical person, the the anxiety check let me know like what I was doing wasn't working. And my sister happened to be working with angels at the time, and she introduced me to concepts, we started practicing things, started to pray. And being a cynical person, I wasn't at all interested in what what whether people said about angels. My question was like, well, how did how does this work? You know, what happens? And a dramatic thing happened to that that was part of the anxiety attack, where I had gone away for two months and left my apartment in the care of some people, and the woman went on a drug binge in my apartment. So there's this very dark energy when I came back, and and it lingered. I had no idea how to get rid of it. And I got advice, and eventually, and most of which I would not do now, but like citrus and sea salt, all good. But the main advice was to call an Archangel Michael. So on the day I chose to reclaim my apartment, I was in the bedroom. There's a long hallway in the living room, and I'm yelling, get the bleep out of my, you know, whoever the energy was, get the get the bleep out of my apartment. And out of the corner of my eye, I saw this like black bear figure in the front room. And I instinctively threw the glass bowl of citrus down the hallway. It landed perfectly in the center of the room, the toilet flushed and it was gone. So so my my question of that was yeah, exactly. It's like, well, what happened? What happened? What actually happened? What created that? So I go to work and then I come back and the heat was on, the electricity was all screwed up after all this happened. So it was this thing like heat, heat was restored. So this prompted me into this inquiry and getting to know the angels, getting to know Archangel Michael. And I started to wake up every morning on my digital clock at 4:44, this kind of angel hello, and started to have synchronicities. And just got in this feedback loop, which created this space which remains to this day, like, well, what did they say? I know what I think. What do they say? You know, and how can we make the world bigger?

Charlie Kelly Medium 6:46

What was your life looking like before this was all happening? Because it sounds like it was coming to a climax point of this can't go on anymore.

SPEAKER_00 6:55

And it was there was a lot of stress, you know. My there was a lot of stress happening and just unhappiness. I was depressed, you know, and a lot of weight and this and that. And what shifted was this perspective of it's not all on me, that there is support and that the support is loving. I basically introduced unconditional love into my life, and just seeing where perhaps everything that we're aware of that doesn't work, any any unkindness, any violence, any absence of encouragement or hoarding is based in unconditional love or absence of love, and just seeing unconditional love as a solution. And what is it like? How how do we connect into that? How do we do that momentarily? How do we do that consistently? How do we let that energy grow and expand? And so with the goal of living on a harmonious planet where everyone's needs are met.

Charlie Kelly Medium 8:39

It sounds like a separation of connection. And then once you had that connection, things started flowing.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

Do you think also just being an empath? Which I think I suspect many people who are will watch this are. Of I was used to just absorbing everything and trying to make order of it, you know, and just seeing where what if I don't do that? What if, you know, one of the things I've learned in working with angels is to influence our environment. You know, thank you, angels, for surrounding me with 1,000 meters of unconditional love. Thank you, angels, for surrounding all my environment environments and encounters with love. So we're in a different space and something different can happen. It's almost like when you try to go on, but it's more able to be present. Yeah. Yeah.

Charlie Kelly Medium 9:36

I think it's almost like it reminds me again of parts of my life. And I think so many of us, we try to control our lives in every sense. You know, we've got bills to pay, mortgages that need paying, we've got a million and one things we're running around trying to do. We don't even think that we have a moment to sit there and even get the angel's number up, so to speak, on our phone mark. And you know, this suddenly becomes a point, I think, in people's lives when they have these almost like awakenings that it seems to have to get to a point of I've tried everything. And I tried to think that, you know, almost like the more and more I was trying to control my life, the more out of control it felt.

– Empaths, energy and influencing your environment

SPEAKER_00 10:40

Yes. Michael Beckwith talks about we get into spirituality, we we learn through suffering or insight, and most people enter the spiritual spiritual path by suffering, and then we shift into insight in whatever way that takes form, usually some kind of technique. And how do we maintain this? Is the eternal question? How do we maintain being in tune? You know, for me, it's it's starting the day with it, you know, starting the day with a strong intention or prayer, you know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:11

Well, it's setting the day off on the right vibe. There's a lot to be said for that old thing of stubbing your toe as you get out of bed, and the rest of the day is an absolute bloody nightmare, so to speak. So to some people, and even me, Mark, I have to be honest with you. I'm not someone who's calling the angels in every day. Maybe I'm missing a trick here. I am a medium, I'm asking my guides to be around me, but I I probably have neglected the angels, which probably you know may make me feel quite silly now. So, what are you doing there? Talk us through what you've seen. Because some to some people listening to this, they're going to think uh, you know, you're away with the fairies.

– Suffering, awakening and starting the day spiritually

SPEAKER_00 11:50

And my I understand that. So, as I mentioned, you know, I'm not like a light-hearted guy. So I, you know, I enjoy humor a lot, but I'm not like Mr. Happy Go Lucky. And with this, there's a practicality to it. You know, angels are everywhere in in popular culture for centuries. And it's a seeing, well, what if we had a relationship with them? I do think there's a space where the universe is going to find the open door, be that you know, connecting with with deceased loved ones, be that animal guides, living or passed away, be that a goddess, a guide, be that musicians, Jim Morrison, or a poet like Maya Angelou, David Bowie, who's a great guide, that the the the mask communicators make fantastic guides. And we already have a relationship with them, or William Blake or Helma off Clint, or but the angels too, and just saying, like, what resonates for you is the thing, main thing. I think what what affinity do you have? That it's not there's not one way it goes. And I think with it's it's you know, it's the 5,000 channel satellite dish, which is like, you know, who who who is loudest for you, you know. Do you have a team? Can I do you have a team that you work with of guides, or is it one particular guide, or how does that work for you?

Charlie Kelly Medium 13:20

So it's a very good question, actually. And I think it's one of these topics that a lot of people get a bit hung up about on their spiritual journey, because I remember people at the very beginning of my journey saying, Oh, you know, my guide's here, whoever it is, and this guide here. And I'd think, well, I don't know who are any of my guides, I don't know who they are. In all honesty, I know bits about my guides, and I do have a number, one being my actual granddad, who was a medium, who has now come back as a guide of mine, but which is very interesting, and he is all around me, I think, for this period of my life. And I have a lady that is associated with the sort of Tudor era where she was a theatre lady, and I think a lot of my fiery personality and probably pizzazz, they might say, comes from that guide. But um, I'm still on an ever-growing mission of trying to make more time for the mark, which is you know something I think we are all need to be probably doing a bit more of. You know, it's actually about sitting there and having that time and allowing yourself the time, isn't it?

– Are angels and guides actually communicating with us?

SPEAKER_00 14:32

It is. There's not one way, I think this is there's not a cookie cutter here, but there is technique. And the technique would be thank you, angels, for helping me in every single part of my life. Thank you to my entire spirit team for helping me in every single part of my life, and just seeing what happens. You know, if we think of as people with any spiritual inclination, what is our role? And perhaps what we could do best is be clear to ourselves and to the universe of what we want to have happen. So, thank you, angels, goddesses, and guides, for this peaceful planet. Thank you for everyone thriving, thank you for everyone having their needs met and exceeded. Thank you for no one getting lost and everyone feeling seen, heard, and encouraged. You know, just putting forward that intention and then seeing who shows up or who gets your attention. And that can come in a myriad of ways. I got a lot of guidance through songs, the repetition of songs. I had a marriage that ended the the day after it it like ended, ended. I heard the Force of Machine song, Dog Days Are Over, like an absurd amount of times until I was laughing, you know. And years ago, I kept hearing Golden Years by David Bowie. And I was about to text a spiritual friend, like, what do you think? And that I remembered the first line, you know, don't let me hear you say that life's taking you nowhere, angel. You know, or Fleetwood Max, Don't Stop. I just I we've heard that song a thousand times, but I was in a store one day and it was playing and just heard it's like yesterday's gone. It'll be better than before. So that's just one example of the different ways that that the universe is going to get our attention. And maybe it's up to us to pay attention, and maybe not every single second, but to put forward any intention because and the intention would be because we know that more is possible. We know that this is not the way things should be in terms of disregarding people and being afraid of each other. That we know that we are connected and that there is more happening. How is your accessing that?

Charlie Kelly Medium 16:46

How is your life? Um because uh I try to I understand the power of intention as a medium, and I'll tell you a funny story. So I've been trying to uh do a manifesting series at the start of the year for this podcast, and the law of attraction and these sorts of things is something that I came into in my life first when I was 18, when that book, the Von der Byrne book, that you know, I've got all sorts of mixed thoughts about the law of attraction and how it's portrayed in there because I think it puts it doesn't it doesn't really get to the root of the issue, which is it's not wishful thinking. You know, you if your actions are not aligning, it doesn't matter if you take 250 steps and say thank you, or you don't do the right things or have the right intent, your life isn't going to change, you know. So I think that book, you know, it could cause me confusion on my journey, quite frankly, because I was manifesting in a lot of things, but I couldn't quite work out why I was and why I wasn't. But you talk about the power of intent, and obviously, you know, that with the angels as well, and how that can be used and harnessed. What you know, what's it what's your life, you know, look like and changed, and how does it, you know, continue to change now that you're tapping into this energy?

SPEAKER_00 18:02

There's more harmony, there's more hope, there's a sense of coherence, and the specter of spirituality for other people is typically grandiosity. Like, who do you think you are to talk to the angels? You know, which is it's very humbling. It's very humbling, and it's just getting to a space where my active manifestations are for more harmony here, so there'd be which it would then out picture as more harmony on the planet as we all drop out of the fear and drop out of lack thinking, you know, into the space of abundance. What if there's enough for everyone? And so just seeing where I'm more present and more relaxed, I have a whole lot of hope, you know, and just recognizing we're not done. We're not done. This is not where things stop, you know. The world is not about protecting a very small number of people, it's about everyone thriving together, you know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:08

It's interesting. It's you know, by what you're saying there, by you inviting in that healing, that healing then goes out through you and it ripples. And I was actually saying this to my mum last night. Yeah. Because we got so we got someone in our life at the moment that's causing us a right pain in the ass, to be quite honest with you, Mark. And I was trying to explain to her, you know, karma. Karma, you know, what this person is doing is so awful that I'll I'll tell you what it is in very brief. So this person has taken a ring that doesn't belong to them, and they are wearing that ring now every day. So I was saying to my mum, that is a very bad karmic thing to do because that person is in the spirit world and that doesn't belong to you. And I was trying to explain to her, you know, because she is into this sort of world, Mark, to some degree, to some degree. I once took her to a circle and she just well, she said she'd never go back again, but that that's a whole nother story. But I was explaining that I believe when you go to the spirit world, what happens is you sort of have this life review where every single person that you have touched that's touched and touched, it's almost like it just goes out like an ocean, you know, to everyone you've even said thank you to or held a door for, you know. So and what you're saying there, you know, is interesting about that because it is that act of kindness and love that is the only thing that exists, you know. Fear is just the absence of love, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 20:38

Yeah. And let's put forward intention without attaching to the how. Let's just see that ring being returned to where you want it to be. And without any drama, just to seeing it done.

– Jason discusses his own spirit guides and grandfather

Charlie Kelly Medium 20:51

That's very nice. You go straight to the ring, you're you get straight down to the business. The ring was taken a very long time ago, Mark, which was the it was the essence of what I was saying to my mum is that was taken six years ago, and you're wearing it for six years. That's very bad karmically. But that's very nice, Mark. Thank you. I'll be passing that on to my mum.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

You're welcome. You're welcome. But I think that's the that's that's the thing, which is so the stories are loud, you know, and it's just seeing where basically getting into what's the highest good, you know, and letting letting the universe sort it out how that's gonna happen. Years ago, you know, it's I think there's a there's a there's like 10 things to talk about, but if we move away from predictive things, I I I don't get predictive information. I occasionally get a little heads up of like, hey, you know, this thing. But but the role of the intuitive for me is like not like this is gonna happen, this is gonna happen, this isn't gonna happen, because we have free will. But it's just seeing where the angels kind of know what's what's happening, and there's two stories. One, if I had a client who broke up with a boyfriend after not doing that for a long time, then moved in with the roommate who discovered was crazy. And the the question was like, how did what does she do? And we prayed, and then the roommate got a boyfriend and moved it was gone the whole time. So the universe sorted that out. Another one is years ago. Had a client who was wondering how to break up with a boyfriend. And the entire half hour session, the angels were like, Where are you gonna go when you break up with a boyfriend? Where are you gonna go? They spent the whole time about what's next. A client called me the day after the reading, and they had gone home after the reading, and and there was a sheriff there with a straining order saying you got 20 minutes to pack your stuff. So she knew where to go. So just seeing the universe at work of being helpful and ahead of us a bit, where there's guidance and also a space of being clear like what we want to have happen, which is harmony. And as we align with harmony and align with peace, if we see that as making more room and giving the universe more room and more room for things to happen for us. Hmm.

– Manifestation, intention and alignment

Charlie Kelly Medium 23:11

Very interesting, isn't it? What I because even myself, in the last year, I have probably been the well the most active I've ever been with wanting to connect to the spirit world. Because I think once you suddenly realize in your life that it's possible when you feel, oh my goodness me, I've wasted 37 years of not well, however many years of not asking them, for goodness sake, no wonder I'm aging rapidly, Mark. You know, on my yes, yes, you know, so once you've suddenly realize that there is, you know, a helpful line of communication here, and you get those signs from the spirit world, or when you will at least allow yourself to even acknowledge them and then you know start to pay them attention and then start having an open mind. We go through these stages, don't we? But you know, I've seen some things where you just go and you know and you feel the universe has your back, you know, you know you've been sent that, and it's very uh reassuring, you know. I'm I'm before I came into this world, I always wanted to believe in the spirit world, I wanted so much to believe in it, but I spent a lot of years, you know. Oh, I don't that could be evidence, you know. That's you know, I but never, you know, I I wasn't easily persuaded, Mark. They must be slamming their head against concrete in the spirit world. Listen to me, listen.

SPEAKER_00 24:39

But this is where the unconditional love comes in. I think where they're they're not hung up, they're not going like, oh my god, is Jason ever gonna get it? They're not doing that. They're going like, yes, yes, yes.

Charlie Kelly Medium 24:50

They're encouraging, they're cheering you as you take them off turn. Well, at least he's taken a turn.

SPEAKER_00 24:55

Well, I think the thing that happens is once we start, I think we all have it, we all have spiritual experiences, be that a loved one coming in a dream or having a precognitive dream or or you know, something happening, but it's just putting it into more conscious practice. And turning points for me have come from getting guidance and ignoring it. And then that sucks. And then it's just getting into a space like I'm not gonna do that again. So if I get guidance, like, okay, thank you. And also, you know, we're pretty rude to the divine, I think. We're pretty rude to the angels, like, where the hell are you when this happened? You know, as opposed to calling them in, as opposed to welcoming, thank you for this, this, thank you for this going well. Thank you for this podcast talk going well. Thank you for the highest good happening for all of us. Thank you for this peaceful planet. Thank you for everyone having their needs met and exceeded.

Charlie Kelly Medium 25:49

Us human race, we're very, you know, we're very ungrateful. We we don't appreciate them for the work they're doing behind the scenes. We don't sit there and ask them for their help. And then as soon as something goes wrong in our life, well, they're not real because where were they?

SPEAKER_00 26:02

Where were they? But we're here to learn. We are here to learn, we are here to learn, and this is you know, humanity is growing up. I would say specifically America's growing up right now, you know, and just seeing where what is it like to be our conscious adult selves, to recognize all the different parts of ourselves, child selves, adolescent selves, critical self, but the conscious adult, the conscious adult resonates really well with spirituality, not the others don't, but just seeing well, why why is it that most people get on a spiritual path in their 40s, you know, or older? You know, things happen, but just trusting that the willingness to let the world be bigger, the surrender of trying to, you know, the the Western culture of things are trying to control everything, trying to figure everything out, and the idea that something else should be happening rather than what is happening. What if we let those things go and got into a space of thank you, angels, for helping me in every single part of my life? Thank you, grandma, for helping me. Yeah.

– Signs, synchronicities and guidance through music

Charlie Kelly Medium 27:06

Uh sorry, I I you you you made me keep um having further questions. What you mentioned about America's growing up and having to grow up or their awakening. What why what makes you say that observation? Or am I asking the absolute obviously?

SPEAKER_00 27:24

Adolescent behavior, adolescent behavior, adolescent behavior and also an absence of empowerment. And I I think the the two issues are discernment and authority, which is our discernment, like is you know, especially around mental health, which is the things that we just that like most people are anxious right now. That's not okay. What if we examine why? You know, there's lots of things to talk about that, and just briefly, you know, with the phones, great technology, not good for our bodies, that are everything's a short brain wave, everything's quick, and what is almost entirely vanished are two things, which is long brain waves, which would be reading a book, meditating, walking in nature without the phone, you know, having a long conversation, but also time to be quote unquote bored and let your brain do nothing and sort. In the in the saturation of information that our brains are just over over overwhelmed. And so with our brains working out of balance, there's anxiety.

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:29

Well, you only need to, you know, nothing makes that point more real than probably opening up your phone, looking at how much screen time you do, and then you realize that you know you're you're actually how many hours of the day are you actually not having the radio on the TV on looking at your phone, and then you wonder why, you know, you're feeling rubbish and you're not feeling great in yourself or whatever. Well, yes, even your dopamine system is in a state of absolute madness, you know, in this modern world. And we do need to get, you know, phones have a have a place, they they really do. They have a place, yeah. They have a place, but they are not good. It's it's do you know what? It's uh people that are in existence now that can go back to a point in their life pre-phone, I think are are at least we know, you know, we have it to some degree under control. But it's the young people of today who've never known a life without the phone, I think is gonna be where the problem is. So I think you're right about that there.

SPEAKER_00 29:30

Yeah. Yeah, it's great technology, but also wireless radiation is invisible, you know. And so it's just just getting into, I think it's worth talking about in terms of in doing what I do. If someone tells me they have uh anxiety, insomnia, or cancer, my first question is do you sleep next to your phone?

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Hmm.

Charlie Kelly Medium 29:53

And I bet the answer to that is nearly 90% yes.

– Karma, healing and trusting the universe

SPEAKER_00 29:56

99% yes. And if we think of, you know, and I totally understand some people need to have the phone nearby for safety or for a relative to call, totally get that. Perhaps there's a space for distance being our friend. And if you don't need your phone right by by you, perhaps it's in another room on airplane mode. But if it's right there by your head, it's the phone is connecting with cell towers. Your brain is registering that activity as light. So sleep, sleep has gotten deprioritized. And the priority is like, what about that message? What about that notification? And so if we replicate nature in our sleep environment as much as possible, and perhaps also looking at digital assistance systems which blast out about, you know, you know, 30 feet of wireless radiation because they're trying to capture your voice, that's a lot of dirty electricity. Those things are invisible. But it's as trusting, you know, what I encourage people to do is try this once. Spend one night without the phone by your head, turn off the digital assistant things, maybe turn off the Wi-Fi at night too, and just see how you sleep and see how that goes. So we're taking action there to prioritize this system being regulated. And for sensitive people, one more thought on that, which is that it's a lot of energy on our bodies, a lot of energy on our nervous systems, and to give ourselves a break from it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 31:33

There is a lot to be said for that, and even I've well, I've recently started wearing these balls. Sounds very rude, actually. I've recently started wearing this like little tube that's got five balls that are charged with quantum energy. Right. And you know, you a lot sometimes you might have looked at that and thought, is does that really work? But it actually does make a big difference. And I have noticed that I'm a hell of a lot calmer since I've had those on. And we do take this for granted, you know, you Wi-Fi, all these different electromagnetic signals that are around us, you know, it is amazing how much our eyes fool us at times rather than you know allow us to see the true reality of things. But I don't want to not be grateful for my eyes, Mark. That's not what I'm saying. I'm very grateful. Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 32:22

No, and it's not making it wrong. I mean, it's great technology, but I think it's a it's uh there's an over-saturation and over-reliance on it. And if we think of one, you know, we see too much, we hear too much. And perhaps it's just advocating for a contrast experience. So, what is it like to leave the phone at home or in the car and go walk in nature and see how you feel? You know, and just have that contrast experience.

Charlie Kelly Medium 32:52

Indeed. So, what are some of the greatest lessons that you feel that you've learned along the way from spirit, the spirit and angels that have helped you most on your path as you've gone along this your journey, Mark?

SPEAKER_00 33:03

To have hope, to not give up, to keep dreams on the table, to keep advocating for what you want, keep talking about what you want.

SPEAKER_01 33:15

That they have our back.

SPEAKER_00 33:18

That the things that that that we all experience as humanity is evolving, a commonality. There's so many commonalities in anyone spiritually minded, which would be anyone who's experiencing this, which is we experience trauma and all the traumas on the surface right now, and that we can heal trauma, that we're not stuck, we're not left behind. And it's a scene where everyone is experiencing that on a different level, and what we can do lovingly for ourselves is to be willing to heal, and trusting the power of acknowledgement as a primary healer, which is like that happened, and boy, that's really not great. But also trusting that everyone has a different variation of that experience, uh feeling victimized, harmed, targeted, whatever it is, and that we do begin to heal it. And if we think of the like a ratio of as we acknowledge what has happened and let the loudness of that, letting the hypervigilance that's been created diminish a bit, that we're making more room for guidance to come forward, and the healing happens one percent at a time, that we're not trying to kick open a door, and that we're kind to ourselves, and that if we see the role, how trauma is outpictured in the world right now in February 2026, and is seeing the timelessness of that, where humans are really not kind to each other, and what if we were? You know, what if we put on the table that no one else is ever, no one takes anyone else's life, that we put forward, that we don't dismiss each other, that we don't disregard each other, that we encourage each other, that we circulate generosity, that what is it like to have a world where we don't need borders, you know, and that everyone has enough, that no one gets lost when everyone has enough.

– Why humanity feels spiritually overwhelmed right now

Charlie Kelly Medium 35:35

So those be, yeah, if get back to the way of the the land, the way of the old, but we're a very long way away from that though at the moment. We need to do something to turn things back, yes, but we're not done.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

So we're not done. And it's it's not to dismiss that thought, but it's a regular, like it just for real, everyone on the planet wants peace and love. Our methods are entirely different. When I kill all those people, I'll have peace. You know, but it's that that's short-sighted, and just in terms of what do we want to have happen? We all want to have regulated nervous systems and to be able to focus on peace, connection, and reintroducing fun. It feels like fun has gotten monumentally deprioritized.

Charlie Kelly Medium 36:24

We do need to get back to having fun. We do, we need to get back to laughing, even you know, even the new news, you know, being glued to because I'm a very curious individual. I want to be looking at what's going on in the world, you know. So at the moment, we do seem to be. I think I I feel that we are having some kind of awakening at the moment, and people are waking up. I agree. Um, because but I think it's like almost like the dolls having to get turned up to that, almost like, you know, probably in our own lives market, you know, it had to get to that point until we awakened. I think as a society and everything, it's like the volume knobbies on volume nine, 10 at the moment. So it needs to start to happen a bit quicker, doesn't it?

SPEAKER_00 37:08

Yes, I think it's already happened. I do think it's already happening. And there's a context for this, which is at this moment, no one is standing still. We're all changing, and it's it's it's a recognition of what changes do we want to experience. We I think we are all super aware of what we don't want to have happen, you know, and just so what do we want to have happen? And as spiritually minded people, which is everyone viewing this, we're in a leadership role right now because everyone else is distracted. Or everyone else is caught up in obedience in some way. What is it like to be spiritually defiant? What is it like to essentially ignore the circumstances, ignore what is has manifested based on old energy, and to put forward an intention, a prayer, a advocacy for what we want to have happen, which is a peaceful planet where everyone thrives. And to counter things. This comes back to we spoke several minutes ago about the conscious adult and just seeing, you know, you know, America is Europe's dumb little brother, you know, and just seeing America is obsessed with adolescent energy. What is it like to be a conscious adult in America? What's it like to be a conscious adult and pray for the world? And just trusting that if we look at where there is adolescent behavior, which might sound like I'm better than you, you know, or these people don't matter. You should really you should hate those people. That's our adolescent. And what is a conscious adult behavior is everyone matters, everyone has value, and let's create the world that we want to live in.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:00

Yeah, like my car is bigger than your car, Mark.

SPEAKER_01 39:08

Really?

SPEAKER_00 39:09

Yeah, this is just it's I think it's just when we when we have that lens, I think it illuminates things in terms of like everyone's fed up with the adolescent energy.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:21

We're all fed up with it because it's not for me, it's not for me.

– Phones, anxiety and nervous system overload

SPEAKER_00 39:24

Yeah, but this is getting into you know, America really resists wisdom. What is it like to be to have wisdom in America and kindness and generosity? It's interesting question, isn't it? It is a question, you know. Right now in February 2026, that there's these Buddhist monks walking across America, and they're being treated with such respect and dignity and circulating goodness. This stray dog is walking with them, you know, the animals know. And it's a seeing where that they are embodying a different vibration, a different way to go. And it's a seeing with if we take vibration away from like a hippie idea into like you know, this actual life of like let's vibrate up here. Most conversations socially are down here.

Charlie Kelly Medium 40:19

Let's do America needs to be turning to gurus rather than guns, doesn't it? I think I'm opening up a whole nother can of worms now, aren't you?

SPEAKER_00 40:31

It's a can of worms. I think the guru thing is is kind of like done. And my goal in in doing spiritual work is let's do it together, let's have an experience together. So let's not focus here, let's focus on us. And the us is powerful as millions of people. But I think it is the space where we are all empowered. That's that's the heartwarming space that we all matter, that no one is left behind, that we're all included in all the good, and that we have a say.

Charlie Kelly Medium 41:06

Well, I think as well, you know, you're you're absolutely right. We are in the director's chair of our own life. Sometimes it takes us for a while to realize that, you know, we're not one of the stage hand assistants, one of the backstage crew. We are in the uh director's chair, we really are. And you know, as soon as you realize that and you, you know, you take the realization that if you're putting out the wrong intent and your life isn't bringing you this uh the right things you want, then of course. Mark, it's a delight. I'm loving talking to you. I just think a lot of words of wisdom. So thank you for that. You're very welcome. Oh, thank you. Would you like to do us the honor of uh leaving us with a final thought of a pearl of wisdom today, please?

SPEAKER_00 41:49

Yeah, do you mind if we pray? Mm-hmm. Go ahead. So thank you, Mother Father God. Thank you, Archangels and Ascended Masters, for incredible good happening for all of us right now. Thank you to the angelic realm, the elemental realm, our ancestors, spirit guides, animal guides, and guardian angels. Thank you for showering everyone engaging with this or adjacent to it or hearing about it. Thank you for everyone being filled with love, light, peace, and joy, and knowing that they are seen, they are heard, that they are significant, that incredible good is here. Thank you for everyone having all their needs met and exceeded, and for incredible good happening for all of life, including people, including animals, including the planet, including the universe. We celebrate incredible good happening right now. We celebrate the highest good for all of us. We celebrate Jason thriving and his podcast reaching millions of people. We celebrate all of us thriving together and having more fun. And with loving clarity and peace, we ask, we celebrate hope too. We ask for this or something better right now in all directions of time. And so it is. Absolutely beautiful.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:53

Mark, thank you for coming on to the SoulSync.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

You're welcome. Thank you for having me, Jason. Thanks for everyone who's listening.