Two Mediums on Addiction, Awakening, and Finding Spirit in the Dark with Paul Harvey

What happens when addiction, darkness, and emotional pain become the very doorway that leads someone toward spirit?

In this raw and deeply honest conversation, I sit down with trance medium and spiritual teacher Paul Harvey to explore the reality behind spiritual awakening — not as a perfect, polished journey, but as something often born through struggle, surrender, and transformation.

Together, we speak openly about addiction, altered states, mediumship, spiritual experiences, healing, and what it truly means to rebuild yourself from the inside out.

This is not a conversation about pretending to be enlightened.
 It’s about two mediums speaking honestly about life, pain, awakening, and finding meaning in the darker chapters of the human experience.

Paul also shares his early introduction to spiritualism at just 12 years old, his development into trance work, and the profound experiences that shaped his connection to spirit.

If you’ve ever felt lost, disconnected, overwhelmed, or as though life was trying to break you apart… this episode may help you realise that sometimes the breakdown becomes the beginning of something deeper.

** This episode discusses the use of drug addiction, listen with care, and please seek help or speak to a loved one or health care professional, this first step is often the hardest**

What you’ll hear

•  Paul’s early introduction to spiritualism and mediumship 
•  The connection between addiction and spiritual searching 
•  Why many awakenings begin in darkness 
•  The emotional and psychological side of mediumship 
•  Trance states and altered consciousness 
•  The challenge of staying grounded while spiritually opening 
•  Fear, ego, surrender, and healing 
•  Why authenticity matters more than appearing “spiritual” 
•  Honest reflections on pain, purpose, and transformation 

Who this episode is for

•  Anyone going through a spiritual awakening 
•  People navigating addiction or emotional struggle 
•  Those curious about trance mediumship and consciousness 
•  Listeners searching for deeper meaning in difficult experiences 
•  Anyone who feels there must be “more” to life 

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•  Self-discovery 
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Transcript

— Introduction

Charlie Kelly Medium 0:12

Hello and welcome to the Salt Sink podcast. It's me, Medium Jason Paul. Now, addiction is something that I have struggled with a lot in my life. In many ways, I feel that addiction was what was ultimately one of the things that was really responsible for my spiritual awakening because I was unhappy in my life. I'd got to a place where outwardly I had people telling me I was successful. I built up uh my own company from the ground up. But inside I felt bloody miserable. I was had points in my life where I was using cocaine and my life was just spiraling out of control at one point. So I've got a guest on today where we both have a very um good discussion about our experiences of addiction. Now, a listener of the podcast, a medium called Paul Harvey, got in touch with me to explain that he had a spiritual awakening three years ago after battling with addiction to cocaine and alcohol for 23 years. Now, I spoke to Paul in this episode about the spiritual awakening he had. He was very close to ending his life at one point, really in the depths of despair and really hurting from the inside. And we discussed what led to that spiritual awakening, what that activated inside him being his pineal glands. But he was having really interesting visions where he was predicting the future, which he knew was coming from the spirit world. He had signs from the angelic realm and his story and what he's done with his life and how he's dedicated his life to helping people from less fortunate areas around Manchester. He really is a true spiritual warrior and a hero in my eyes. We discuss the journeys we've both gone through on how we awoke to what the truth of reality is. We discuss how we've both overcome addiction, how to do so, how to change habits, and how the ego wants to keep just dragging us back there and how to shut the ego up. So I love Paul, his energy. He talks so authentically about his struggles, and that's what we need more of in this world right now. I love this.

SPEAKER_00 2:55

Thank you, mate. Thanks for having us.

Charlie Kelly Medium 2:57

It's lovely to have you. Thank you for coming on. Your email jumped out at me from the very start because you got an interesting story. Yeah. Because from what you told me, you had a spiritual awakening and it happened three years ago after uh what sounds like a struggle of a life hole.

— Paul’s Cocaine Addiction & Spiritual Awakening

SPEAKER_00 3:20

Yeah, it was uh very difficult at the time, mate. It was but when the awakening happened, I was actually struggling with my addiction more than anything, co-gain addiction. I've been about 20 years at that point. From I'd probably say I was bad on it from the age of 16, but I was having my first lines and stuff when I was about 12. But from the moment I left school, that was when it went bad. So with my awakening, I just went out to a friend who was doing sound, sound baths and stuff like that, and then just dipping it all in there, and I ended up going to Portugal to do some energy work in Portugal, and that was when I had the big awakening in Portugal. Basically at a bit of a mushroom ceremony. Went done about mushrooms and done some energy work in a room, and that was where I had a massive awakening inside that room. And at that point, I was like mind-blown to what was happening to me. I didn't have a clue what was going on. I was that conditioned, you know, no belief in nothing. And things just went from there really from getting on when I got on from there.

Charlie Kelly Medium 4:32

I because I I too struggled with a cocaine addiction, and then I haven't really spoken much about it on this podcast. I've spoken about the topic of addiction, but not about cocaine addiction. So to go back to you know your childhood and what kind of led you at 12 years old to sort of try that. Take us back to the the you know, the poll of then, if you don't mind.

SPEAKER_00 5:02

The poll of then. I was alive, was young, I was hanging around on the streets, I was on the council of the state, grew up in Ancoach in Manchester, right on the outskirts of the city.

Charlie Kelly Medium 5:13

I actually used to live in Ancoats at a point, actually. Oh, did you? Yeah, but probably before it was nicely done over with all the parts.

SPEAKER_00 5:23

Since I was a kid, anyway. I was a kid. I loved the place, if I'm honest. Um, all my family's from round there.

Charlie Kelly Medium 5:30

It's a tough old area, that area though.

— Childhood, Escapism & Growing Up on the Streets

SPEAKER_00 5:32

It's you know back then it was, it was, it still is, but it was back then. A lot a lot of drugs, a lot of drugs on the streets back then as well, a lot of heroin when I was a kid. That's a big part of my journey, is my uncle Stephen, who when I was young, I really looked up to him and he was on Edwin as I was a child, and I watched him go through that. I kind of followed his footsteps in a way, but not with Edwin I went down the cocaine route, but he was off the edwing by the time I was, say, 16, 18, and he was trying to get me to sort my life out, but I never listened to him. Did you get what I mean? But I always watched him go through his addictions as I was a young kid. And it's a big part of our journey together, really. Now he he's one of my guides. It's a very big part of our journey how it's all worked out between the both of us growing up and stuff.

Charlie Kelly Medium 6:27

Kind of you've making your hairs on the back of my neck stands up to be the right one who's telling me that story. Well, it's do you know what? There's there's a lot to be said where people follow in their sort of parents or who they look up to, footsteps. And you know, you never know what handicard you're going to be dealt in life, you know, where you're born into, what your area is, what your surroundings are, what your circumstances are. Yeah. But it it feels to me like when you were saying that, it was making me feel that it was like the kind of grief of perhaps going through that with him, kind of, you know, that you sort of turn to drugs because you're struggling, don't you? It's escapism, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00 7:07

If I'm honest. Never really had contact with me or daddy. He was a bit of a a nightmare. I'd already swear on your podcast, so I'll try my best anyway. But he was a piece of, you know, I think that didn't sit with me well as a kid. And it was just a lot, a lot going on really. Then there was my uncle, and then I just turned to drugs and outdoor really from a young age. I had a lot of mates, so it was always just I was more focused on my mates than than anything, you know, just doing whatever my mates was doing. And I don't know. When I thought back at some times, I think maybe I felt a little bit a little bit different as a kid, a little bit lost or something. But when I was with my mates and I was doing what I was doing, I didn't feel lost. I felt like I was I was at home. Yeah. Did that make sense? But when you're age, you don't you don't really see what you're doing the other.

Charlie Kelly Medium 7:58

You don't. But I think in my experience, when I what had happened to me was I my first probably experience of drugs was cannabis when I was young, and it was fun, and it was made you silly and it made you giggly. And it it my relationship was that, and it changed over time to I was struggling essentially. I'd built up a business. I'd spent years cut like you coming from you know a beginning that was you know very humble. It was, you know, what I had was lots of love, you know, and that's a blind me, that's a lot more than a lot of people have, isn't it isn't it? So even that in itself, but I really struggled a lot with you know money and whatever. So once I kind of thought, okay, it's I'm gonna be happy once you know I can afford things, once I've got this far, once I've got this far. So to cut a long story short, anyway, I built up a multi-million pound business of eventually for my savings. And do you know what? I was so bloody miserable. I just thought nothing is making me happy. And it was because my soul was basically crying out and saying, you know, what you need is to be connected because I was fearing death. So I eventually got sucked into a cocaine addiction, and it was because I was struggling. I was struggling with people telling me that I was successful, but on the inside, I just felt got so goddamn miserable.

SPEAKER_00 9:27

Yeah, money don't always um start life out, was it? No, it doesn't. They gave me a lot of money uh over the last 20 years. I'd be dead, man, because I would have sniffed it all right on the hall.

unknown 9:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:37

Well, do you know what?

Charlie Kelly Medium 9:39

I'm grateful that I didn't get to that point as well, because that was the direction of travel I was going in at one point, Paul. It really was.

SPEAKER_00 9:47

Like me now as well. I mean, I was gone through a big massive change. I left my job, I worked on the canals. Do you have canals around your ledge?

Charlie Kelly Medium 9:56

We do. We do. And I know the canal network in Manchester, it's so I I worked on the canals from the mor when I left school.

— The Reality of Addiction Behind Closed Doors

SPEAKER_00 10:04

And I went, so I was working on the canals, grew up on the canals, jumped my beard on the canals, been there all my life, and then a year ago I just I just left. I just knew I needed to leave there because it was a big part of everything that was happening in my spiritual awakening. And I needed what my spirit guides have showed me now is that I needed that time off that year to get clean and sober, develop my abilities with my mediumship, and get to where I am now when I'm in a much more peaceful place. And now I've gone back to work, but I've started trying to build my own company now, doing some landscaping and building. I've only started about three weeks ago, but things are looking up, and I'm at a point where I don't need to panic so much in my mediumship because it comes in a lot easier. So if someone puts me for a reading, I can tune into it just before they come and write it down and sit with that person and go over what comes in for them and do it that way. Whereas beforehand, I was relying a lot on my visuals, not on the hearing. And I would have to meditate for like half an hour, speak out what I see, record it, listen it back, write it down, and then go over the reading. Whereas now I can just do it like, you know, ask for it, hear it, trust it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:24

You make me smile when I'm just sitting here listening to you. You're very interesting, and it does make me you make me smile because you're not the usual kind of medium. And I love that about you. I love that.

SPEAKER_00 11:36

I've only done that in telling people, you know, like in public. I told the public a year ago it's very hard for me to speak out about the background and everything. But I felt like you know, I've got to do this work now, this is me. I've got to let people know that this is here, it's happening to me. My family needs to know, my friends need to know, the world needs to know.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:58

In my coming out of the closet, Paul. It's lovely. We love that here on the SoulSync. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:04

So yeah, come on.

Charlie Kelly Medium 12:06

I want to just go back because I want to come onto the mediumship and because I just keep feeling as you're speaking, you make me feel a lot like myself. And I kind of feel like I had to go through all of those bloody struggles with addiction and all of those things because it was almost like my I had to learn those experiences to feel the softness that I feel now, and the grace and the empathy towards people and the kindness and the love. And I kind of very much feel it's that way that you have been through that is what's going to make you such, and you know, I'm sure makes you easy are such a great medium.

SPEAKER_00 12:41

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think the drugs, I mean, 23 years are however long that around long time to be living the life I was living. You know, I was having it, if not seven nights a week, I'd be going on four or five-day weekend vendors and having two days off, no sleep for four or five days. And I've done a lot of damage to myself, to my family, to my missus who are loved to bits, my kids have seen a lot, you know, and now I'm not. It's took me a long time to get out of that habit. And it's only now that I'm fully out of it do I see what it actually does to a person. Because I think when you are on that stuff, no matter what, and even alcohol was one, you're not thinking straight. You are, you're not yourself because everything you do in your day-to-day life evolves around that. So it's all you think about, you manifest it all day, you're at work, you think, oh, get on. If my kids go dancing with others, I'd be taking them to dancing, and I can't wait for them to go out to get them on so I can have a lighting and a few bitters. I mean, that's no way of living there. And now, now that I'm away from it, I want to see other people do the same thing, because I know what goodness that can bring into someone's life and back into the family, into the kids, the missus, you know. Some people are here to make these mistakes and then show the way for others, and there's a lot of us coming into that now.

Charlie Kelly Medium 14:11

Um How did you recognise it and stop it? How do you how did you do that?

SPEAKER_00 14:21

Because that's a really remember when COVID came about.

Charlie Kelly Medium 14:26

Yeah.

— Can Spirituality Help Heal Addiction?

SPEAKER_00 14:27

I was very depressed a lot anyway, I'd say. I'd say I was quite depressed for quite a bit of my life, if I'm honest now that I look back. I wouldn't have acted it, I'd have acted like the strong guy and all that, but now I look back, I would inside I was depressed. But COVID came about and I ended up getting rheumatoid arthritis. My mum got it as well at the same time. And it proper like disabil disabilitated, is that the word? Me and my mum. My mum's got a really bad store of mouth. But I was at the point, I was 35, I couldn't even get downstairs in the morning to go work. My feet were swelled up, my wrists were swelling up, my shoulders, my neck was stuck in position. And I just felt like something was right. So I just think something's not right. And I started seeing all these videos about COVID and spirituality, and I'm thinking, something don't feel right. And then that was when I reached out to a friend of mine, Katie, who was doing salvoffs and stuff. And she'd been into the same kind of stuff with me and was doing really well. And that was when I thought I've got to go here because if I don't have topping myself the way I'm feeling with the disease and the depression and everything else, I was really in a really dark place. So that was when I reached out to cater at the at the start.

Charlie Kelly Medium 16:12

I think it's sometimes it's I think what keeps people in that place, and even from my own perspective, is you just feel shame, don't you? You feel shame and embarrassment that you've even got yourself into this mess because you just think everyone's gonna judge you, everyone's going to be honest.

SPEAKER_00 16:28

I was more didn't really give a shit. I was I did I did, but I was very open with what I was doing. You know, I'd tell anyone I'm going home, I've been a sniff, or I've been on a five-day band. I I thought it was a a great, a great life for quite a few years, I thought it was jab a lot, but now I don't see that. Now I do feel shame. I've had to do a lot of work through my journey the past year, where I've had to work on that shame. I was feeling for the stuff I have done while I was on this rampage, some stuff I've done in my life, especially based around my family, my mum, my missus, the kids, stuff they've gone through, seeing me go on that rampage over the years, and you know, they've stood by me, and I'm just glad I can be in this better place for them now.

Charlie Kelly Medium 17:18

You you talk about, and I'm firstly I'm very glad to hear that because you know, God knows how many people a year don't, you know, manage to turn things around from addiction, you know. Yeah, it's a shame. It is a shame. It's it's actually heartbreaking when I was in the police after years, it was it was the most heartbreaking thing. And I just thought to myself then the war on drugs is not working, you know. We need to bloody change something and get proper support in place for mental health services.

SPEAKER_00 17:54

Yeah, I think, I think uh is spirituality, mate. I I I honestly, in the deepest part of my soul and my heart, believe that spirituality is the way forward for anyone struggling with drug addiction. I know there is other things out there to do, but I do believe that meditation and spiritual awakening and it is the number one thing what people should be using to change their lives and to teach the kids to change the way the the way the world works, really, in it, over the space of years. Start teaching it to our kids and let the kids understand it and see what it is.

Charlie Kelly Medium 18:35

Um I agree because with children now, especially, we need to be teaching them about their intuition. The problem with this way of being is I've I worry to myself that the more people get absorbed in their phones and you know, more disconnected from who they are. You're right, you're right, Paul. The the answer to humanity, I think, is to realise the truth of who they are, that life is eternal, that the planet is precious, that thought, you know, leads to creation and and the the power of thoughts. And I think we need to teach kids all of this. And yeah, certainly at school age as well, you know, that's what we need to be doing.

SPEAKER_00 19:19

I've got a young lad, maybe I just wanted to say that I've got a young lad who comes to my football at the minute, he's 30 cold eyes that and he's just literally yesterday. He comes to the ladies' football last night, he always comes and helps me with the men's football or the ladies. And he came yesterday and he's actually just been awarded mental health ambassador in his high school through coming to the football, coming on Cold War swings. And he was really, really struggling, and he's such he's in such a good place now, and helping other kids in his school through coming and seeing what I do. And you know, it just goes to show that the proof is in the pudding in it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:58

So I agree. I agree, yeah, and I think that's where we need things like youth clubs and stuff as well, and we need to be getting people off their computers, off their devices, and out and about into good old fashioned nature. You talk about your spiritual awakening and you had this experience. Tell me about that, because that sounds like it was the moment where everything changed for you.

— Visions, Synchronicities & Feeling “Called”

SPEAKER_00 20:21

When I was in Portugal, it was it was like it was like an energy, an energy ruse. Because I was the only person in there who was rocking backward and forward, shaking. I was burning up, I ended up ripping all my clothes off, and I was just like, what is happening? I could hear that once, I could just hear voices going off in my head, and I was thinking, oh my god, what's happening tonight? And then I remember being on the roof of the place, we're in the middle of the countryside in Portsco, beautiful place. And I'm just looking up at the stars, and at that point I didn't understand, but I kept hearing on repeat, Streets to the Stars, Streets to the Stars. And I'm thinking, why don't we keep thinking streets to the stars? And it wasn't about a year after as a lot more had to happen that I figured out. It was for this because I want people from the streets. My dream is people from the streets, the council of states to see spirituality for what it is and change the way of the way of our people live. Change it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 21:26

No, I love the fact that you're doing this for young people as well, and that's a real focus because so many these churches as well, you know, and it's an aging population. We need to be bringing young people into this sooner. We need to be getting mediumship out there. Yeah. How did you know that? How did you first get drawn into this? Mediumship because it was so far removed from the world that you were.

SPEAKER_00 21:51

Well, I come home and I went back to the drugs, and then I started thinking I need to know what happened to me in Portugal. So I started meditating at work on my dinner break on the canals, and I was meditating under a tree one day, and I just had my eyes closed, and three visuals flashed in. One was my missus studying the kitchen. One was a symbol of someone injuring on the floor with like dots and blood. And one was a grass like this. So I opened my eyes thinking, oh my God, what's this happened? So four missus. And we're saying, please don't let the house. I feel like something's going to happen to you because of what I've just seen. So I, at this point, I was losing my mind, my fine heels are just open. I'm not surprised. And I was thinking something bad's going to happen for all of them. I might have done it my time. And then an hour later, the Mrs. Foreman said that my one of my good friends' girlfriends that just been were over at the bottom of the grass hill, which I'd seen in the visual. She was in a coma, and my missus was the one to ring me and tell them. So that was the three wishes I had. And then I pieced it together, and I thought, I'm gone a minute, I'm seeing things before they're happening. And then the things that started going from there, really.

Charlie Kelly Medium 23:10

And that just sounds, I can't even imagine what that must have felt like. You think am I losing the plot here? Is what's going on.

SPEAKER_00 23:18

Yeah, I was thinking that. I was thinking all the stuff based around my life, things that have happened in my life to sum it out to get me. You know, I didn't know what spirituality was, mate. I was thinking that the devil was out for me or something. Honestly, I don't know about what is happening. But I ended up looking like that.

Charlie Kelly Medium 23:35

I could imagine it because you were, especially if you had, you know, the drugs on top that's adding to the anxiety, the amanoia, you're getting these visions, then you're questioning what you've seen.

SPEAKER_00 23:46

Everyone already think time books, anyways. Those things, but yeah, so the thing things had to happen over a casual uh bit of time. I was telling my uncle who was like the closest person, and he was saying, Oh, are you losing the plot and all this kind of stuff? And he wasn't until he passed away, that things then started to take a big turn. And I tried to kill myself, uh, went up to a cliff to jump off. Some happened up there, I started getting me. Whenever Spirit will get my attention, they'll mess with my energy and I'll start going dizzy and then images can flash in. So when I was up on that cliff edge, I can't remember the exact visuals, but I could go back to the journals. But I was on the edge and I started getting all the dizziness coming and seeing that flashing images coming in, and it was basically where my uncle's trying to get away from here, get off this edge. And they were falling on the floor, crying instead of jumping off. And there was another point in his flat after I found him passed away, but I was just sat with a pile of coal cane ready to sniff until I dropped. And he actually came into the flat and something's happened. I felt the room temperature go down. I stood in the kitchen, the dog started going crazy that all the air stood up on my body, and as I turned round, I felt like I ran right through the centre of my chest, and I just fell to the floor, shaking and crying. And I knew it was him trying to get me out of the flat and get me on to the missus and kids because he knew I wasn't planning on coming back out of there.

Charlie Kelly Medium 25:22

Isn't it it just makes me feel uh you know his kind of passing in a way is what's activated his his life lives on through your mediumship.

— Meeting Psychics, Signs From Spirit & The Cliff Vision

SPEAKER_00 25:34

Yeah, he has a pass away for my uh it sounds awful, but for my journey to carry on, he he's his passion on to come for me to keep going. Which I hold on to a lot of cool kind of thing that it's sad. I hold on to quite a bit of sadness with that. But I don't think I should because he's with me every day in my life. He thought he literally had all that I get constantly all day long, he's guiding from him, Monarchy for Michael. And I'm just like, I see somewhere in me, I had nothing but I go there, and I get all my signs, delete me to coins. This is why I've got the crowns on here. When I get to the coins, the messages fall in, and it's like I'm just constantly guiding.

Charlie Kelly Medium 26:16

Do you know what? Even as you're saying that, I can feel his energy around me because it I can feel that emotional energy. This is what happens when you put two mediums together, Paul. I can feel that, and I feel that he's he's with you all the time because good energy, big energy. Well, it's made I'm getting goosebumps as you say it because I feel I feel his energy having just come into this moment as you start speaking about him. And I feel almost like I want to sort of interrupt now because he wants to talk on the show, so I can kind of feel that, but it's interesting because my granddad was a medium, and I never asked him any questions about mediumship when he was alive, like what a fool. I was more interested in poltergeist, the tarot, all these things. And it took for his passing for me to feel grief for his mediumship that to then live on through me. And had he not passed, I wouldn't that that the circumstances just wouldn't have happened. But ironically, like your uncle, my granddad is my guide. And it took me a long time to first of all discover that, but also accept that. But because the trust element of me.

SPEAKER_00 27:29

Yeah, well, that's one of my biggest problems has been trust. Not just in the mediumship, in my life. Life, I've had a lot of trust issues. I think it's from my childhood, um, never trusting a soul. But I'm working on that at the minute, and you know, it's it's going well, life's going well. And you mentioned then about it took me a while to trust and find out who your guide was. So when I was, I actually went to see a sidekick when things was happening to me, and I was like, mate, I'm losing the plot. I need to know what's happening to that, blah de blah. I even rang him off a different phone, so we put me up on Facebook. You know, I was having visuals.

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:07

When they're discreet, ads are a folks saying though there's a lot of people.

SPEAKER_00 28:10

I was having visuals, and I still didn't believe it. You know, I was that's how conditioned it was. So I went and seen him, and he said, I said to him, I keep seeing this blue angel on the cliff in meditation. I said, and I can't make any sense of it. And he said to me, he said, I know what that is. He said, That's where you're gonna meet your spirit guides when the time's right. And then that summer, I started after Milka passed away, I started using this certain cliff to walk up to keep me off the drugs. I was going watching the sunset off there every night and stuff like that, keeping myself busy. And I one day I was walking back down and I realised that the cliff behind me was the shape of the edge of the vision I'd been seeing in the meditation with the blue angel on it. And then one morning, it was a few months after he passed away, me and his son Jade, my cousin, we've ended up really close again through losing him. I was on my way to pick him up to go to the gym. And I was just at the lights in my side, going to his house, and the white feather was just floating here next to my window. And I went freezing cold, and he had go to the cliff tonight. So I was like, I'll come on to the missing thing. This is just something that I think I'm losing the plot.

Charlie Kelly Medium 29:23

So what did she say about this?

SPEAKER_00 29:25

Was she accepting or encouraging us? We ended up having a bit of a breakup for a while because it I was going through a lot. She was thinking he's losing the plot and not straight up. Now he see he thinks he's having a vision. Yeah, quite a bit down the line. So when I told her that, I went to the cliff and I walked up the cliff and I sat there for two hours. I was thinking my uncle was going to appear because the psychic had told me you're gonna meet your guides there, but no one appeared, so I put my backpack on, pissed off, started walking off for you, me and heard, go left. So I followed the voices, and my uncle's name was Stephen, and I swear to God, I got led straight to a rock, it's on the side in the kitchen, and uh by listening to the voices on the top of the cliff, in the middle of the storm, straight to a rock with stage, love you on it. And the guiding straight to that rock for me to know he was my guide and Archangel Michael at the same time.

Charlie Kelly Medium 30:24

That's mind-blowing, isn't it? How did you learn to trust? How did you how have you developed your mediumship in that way?

— Bringing Spirituality to the Streets

SPEAKER_00 30:35

I'd say following my own guidance more daily. So what I would see in visuals that night before sleep, I would piece it together the next day myself, and then I started like seeing places in my mind, and I'd think I need to go there, and then I'd get to a coin with the crown on, and the message had fallen, or I've got a spiral spiral tattered on my wrist. A side game led to snails with the spiral on it, which is energy. Every time I got to a snail, a message would drop, and then things were starting to happen for myself daily for me to start trusting, and then when the more I sat with people for readings, the better that trust became. And now I'm putting more into the hearing side of it. I think I've done six readings now just off hearing, and it was really hard to sit with the people and think, can I trust what's on this paper, or is it just my thoughts? And every single thing on them pieces of paper when I sit down with someone, is their life to a ticket, or someone they've lost, or in each. And I I I just I bring a lot of people in who are struggling in life, you know, people at the council estates and with addictions and going through a lot of shit, which I believe I'm here for. And then it brings them into like a group, you know. I've got WhatsApp route for women's football, men's football. I do a little bit of kids' football. I'm hoping to make that a bigger thing in the future. I'm just setting this up as a CIC to try and get funding to help me cover some costs for the pictures because people are really struggling for money. I mean, I've got enough money and I keep having to like chip money in whatever we've got to cover the cost of these pictures, you know what I mean? So that's just because of the kind soul you are. Yeah, just trying my best to make it work. And I'm I'm literally just waiting for the CIC to be selled now. I've got my directors, my family, my two friends, and I'm hoping some funding might come then to, you know, get used to the.

Charlie Kelly Medium 32:37

I love what you're doing and the way you're using your mediumship. You're and I often think that the spirit world and mediumship, you know, if we go back in time to the days of psychic surgeons and what healers can do, and the you know, even some of these, I've heard all sorts of stories, Paul, as you could imagine, or the soul sink, about how mediumship can be used. And I think a lot of the time it's not moving past the point of, you know, okay, we're just doing readings or whatever. And I feel that what you're doing by allowing people to understand that life does the one that is eternal, is is interesting.

SPEAKER_00 33:19

I want to bring it more straight, that's why I want. I want us, I want people from the streets, from the roughy side of life to see that, you know, you we can be spiritual and still be ourselves, find some balance in our lives, still sort of feels. You know, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with being people who are extra-spiritual, who who love going, changing the way we dress and all that. It's all happy, it's all love and all that. But I want people who might be a bit freaked out by that to see that we can all be spiritual and be connected and love each other and live a live a top life and still be who we are. You know what I mean?

Charlie Kelly Medium 34:01

We need mediums from every single imaginable life. Yes. Otherwise, who's gonna be talking to the people with all these places?

SPEAKER_00 34:10

You've got that people are to vibrate on the level with why so many people are coming into it now. A lot of the lads I've brought in for readings, I've ended up getting seismic stuff happening to them straight away, and then down the line it fell out of the group because you know it's not aligning for him, or it's not their time, yeah, and they're back on the drugs, or and that that that's not that used to sit with me really bad because I really wanted to help them that much. But I there's nothing I can do about that. I've had to learn that the ones who are here are the ones who are here, the ones who fall. You know, it's just being rageable.

— Ego, Fear & Learning to Control the Mind

Charlie Kelly Medium 34:47

Well, it must be heartbreaking, but you know, you can do everything in your power imaginable to to help someone, but it starts from them, and it's it's very difficult. It's very difficult, especially drugs. It's especially with substances now as well. Some of them are so powerful that you know it's just crazy. So you're doing all of this with, you know, and I love it. I think it's amazing what you're doing, and I think you should be really proud of yourself for the strength it takes. And our paths, our paths are very similar in a lot of ways, it does feel like to me as you're talking. So I want to ask you about your because this is, you know, we talk a lot about mediumship on this show. What's your advice to people? How do they, you know, when they're learning to, you know, sit, meditate, feel spirit. How, you know, would you because you're talking to people sometimes who, you know, I guess coming from a background where they couldn't believe in anything like this.

SPEAKER_00 35:49

Yeah, everyone's speech here is the same as I was at the beginning. I can't meditate, I can't do this. My mind's like this. I'm saying, I've been ADHD all my life. I don't think that it's ADHD, I think it's a gift from God. I use that power on that card stop to get yourself booming. Especially when you get clean and sober, use that energy you've got there to go and create what you want in your life.

Charlie Kelly Medium 36:13

Yeah, sorry, Green.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

It's the same. I started off with guided meditations, always guided, listening to the guided music, just so I didn't have to listen to my own thoughts. I could listen to that. In time, I got better at that. And then I started using there's a woman called Susan Geisman in America. Yes. I started, I read a couple of Susan's books, and Susan's books actually guided me a lot through my meditations and stuff, so but I was reading Susan Geisman's books, same with the Silicine Prophecy and a lot of other spiritual books. I was actually getting guided in my meditations to things inside their books. So I was like piecing things together, and there'd be the chapters in their books, and they might be synchronistically happening in my life and stuff like that. So things just got easier. It's a lot of hard work, especially if you're coming from addiction, I think, because you are gonna have that ego trying to tell your fuck that go get on the session, do this, you can't meditate, you can't do this. You know, I still have days like that now. But if you keep persevering with it, you keep meditating, grounding, getting out in nature, doing all of the things there, what spirituality teaches, your life will just change, it might take a while. You might fall off the wagon every eight weeks and dip back in and go back out like I did. But you will gather if you focus on it and you pull give it your off.

Charlie Kelly Medium 37:45

Yeah, and you get that bloody ego to shut up, you know.

SPEAKER_00 37:49

Sometimes I think always being an absolute nightmare, mate. I'm not gonna lie. If it was studying from me, I'd knock it clear down.

Charlie Kelly Medium 37:58

I would do the same. I'll give mine a right, I'll bitch slap because it's it's always uh chipping in with unhelpful stuff. Uh things the time.

SPEAKER_00 38:07

It's gonna be a nightmare, can't you? You've got to learn to know that you still are your ego as well, aren't you? You know, you've got to learn to balance, learn to control that the the the madness. So when you've got a long life of living from that party on, you've got to learn to control it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 38:26

You do, and it takes takes time. Well, first of all, it's I think the first step of that is first of all recognising that you are not your thoughts. Your thoughts are just yesterday. You live in the your your thoughts are the past.

SPEAKER_00 38:42

And what one thing I always tell people is listen to the right hand side to your brain. If you close your eyes down, you listen, sit focus on the middle, listen to the left. That's where all the chitter chat is. I learned this from Susan Geisman's book. Focus on the right, you'll find the silence. If you put your focus into the right side, that's where the silence is, that's where my messages come in from the right.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:07

It's interesting you say that. I've never, that's a really see. This is what I love, these polls of wisdom that make it simple. You know, it's it could overcomplicate this. And that's yeah, I've never thought of it like that, but you know, even as you said that, I just did that, and it moved my energy instantly.

SPEAKER_00 39:24

Yeah, doing it to that place. And see how that goes.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:32

And then your partner's telling you got selective hearing. Are you doing that thing again, Paul? Well, you've moved your awareness.

unknown 39:38

Yeah.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:40

It's interesting. And you know, I think simplicity is very important in mediumship, I really do, because you can overcomplicate this a lot, and I think that's a really way of putting it.

SPEAKER_00 39:52

I've overcomplicated it a lot myself, and I think I had to overcomplicate it and make my journey hard so I can make other people's easier from my experiences along along the way. You know, the amount of times I'd done eight weeks clean and then six weeks back, and then eight weeks clean and six weeks back, and there was a lot of that. And then it just got to a point where I said I can't do this shit anymore. I stopped sniffing, and then a month later I drank alcohol without sniff for the first time in my life, I think, from being 12. And I generally had about four or five pints. I caused absolute murders at a family do it for oh my god, I'm never drinking again, and I haven't touched a drink since it's been a year and three weeks, I think.

— Creating a Life Beyond Fear

Charlie Kelly Medium 40:39

Well done, you. That's it's amazing. And if it just feels to me like things are gonna take off for you, and I feel that everything you're doing is so wholehearted, you know. It's interesting, isn't it? How we get to where we get to and the journeys we have to go through and the the struggles to get there.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

Yeah, 100%, mate.

Charlie Kelly Medium 41:02

Well, it's been a blast. If people want to find out more about you, you've got you. I love your little social media video. I say little social media videos. I really like the content you put up and the fact that you you know you're living so authentically, and that's what we bloody need. Yeah. Because we, you know, we don't want to. Oh, penalty. Yeah. Well, if people want to find out more about you, you can go to your Instagram, which is just behind you there, Streets of the Stars.

SPEAKER_00 41:27

Streets to the Stars with a number two, and then on Facebook, who had to change you to a T and an ob so streets to the Stars with a T ob. And then a box got TikTok, the same as this as well, the same as Instagram. People if you message me on there, you know, if anyone out there is struggling or anything, they can reach out and I can put them into my WhatsApp group where there's just a bunch of men or women in different groups or families in a family group and get support. You know, everyone says good morning, have a positive day, this and you all turn up, play football, we're going cold water dips, we do whatever it seems, and I just keep trying to spread the message to raise the vibration, get a run on it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:09

Well, do you know what? I wish you very well with it all because I think you know you're a bloody superstar. And the links to contact you will be in the show notes. Leave us on a final thought then today, Paul. How would you like to close this conversation?

SPEAKER_00 42:25

I would like to say, let's all start standing together on and bring your spirituality to the world.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:35

Amen to that.

SPEAKER_00 42:37

In the biggest way we can. We should all be creating the lives we want, not living in the shit we fear.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:45

Yeah, we shouldn't be. If you end if you're living in a state of fear, um know that things can change, I think. It's been a delight, Paul. Thank you for coming on to the South.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

I really appreciate you having me on, mate. Thank you very much.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:59

Oh, you're very, very welcome. Bloody hell, that conversation really touched my heart, and I think it really healed me um in a lot of ways as well. And I want to speak more about my um struggles with addiction, and you know, something I'm building up to probably more in my own right in a lot of ways. Um, I think we're all on the journey of healing in one way or another, and just to hear Paul, you know, having had that moment in his life to know I'm not gonna make myself suffer anymore. I'm not just gonna choose suffering all the time. You know, I think he's a warrior to have come through this and out the other side. I would like to say that I'm gonna be starting a new monthly newsletter. To sign up to it, just go to jasonpaulmedium.com, down to the bottom of the screen, sign up, and you can hear from me um with all my spiritual goings on.