The Pact She Made With Spirit — With Danielle Nijhuis

What happens when grief opens a doorway?

In this episode of Soul Sync, I’m joined by Dutch medium, healer, trance medium and teacher Danielle Nijhuis for a deeply moving conversation about loss, spirit communication, healing, and the moment that changed the course of her life.

Danielle’s journey into mediumship began after the sudden passing of someone she deeply loved. Like so many people who experience profound grief, she found herself asking the question that sits quietly behind so much of human suffering:

Where have you gone?

That question led her on a search — through religion, grief, intuition, mediumship, the Arthur Findlay College, trance, healing, and physical mediumship.

In this conversation, Danielle shares the experiences that shaped her understanding of the spirit world, including her time sitting in trance and physical mediumship circles, her work with spirit guides, her journey with healing, and the extraordinary séance experience that gave her the answer she had been searching for.

What makes this conversation so powerful is not just the phenomena Danielle describes, but the emotional meaning behind it. After receiving what she felt was a direct and deeply personal answer from the spirit world, Danielle made a promise: to dedicate herself to serving spirit and helping others find healing, connection, and trust.

This is a conversation about grief, evidence, love, healing, and the way the spirit world can sometimes meet us in the places where life has broken us open.

To find out more about Danielle, you can visit her website - https://www.soulconnections.nl/

What you’ll hear

• Danielle’s early sensitivity and childhood questions about religion, heaven, hell and personal responsibility
• The sudden loss that changed the direction of her life
• Why grief led her to search for answers beyond traditional explanations
• Her first experiences with mediumship and spirit communication
• Discovering trance and physical mediumship at the Arthur Findlay College
• Sitting with physical mediums and witnessing powerful séance phenomena
• The extraordinary moment where someone she loved materialised and spoke to her in Dutch
• Why that experience became a turning point in her healing
• The “pact” Danielle made with the spirit world
• Her work with healing mediumship, trance, spirit guides and teaching
• The story behind her book, Medium Between Two Worlds
• Why she believes mediumship is not about being special, but about discovering the true self

Who this episode is for

This episode is for anyone who has lost someone they love and wondered where they have gone.

It is also for anyone curious about mediumship, trance, healing, spirit guides, physical mediumship, and the deeper purpose behind spiritual development.

If you have ever felt that grief might be more than an ending — that it might also become a doorway — this conversation will speak to you.

Mentions & ideas

• Mediumship and grief
• Trance mediumship
• Healing mediumship
• Physical mediumship
• Spirit guides
• Arthur Findlay College
• Glenn Edwards
• Scott Milligan
• David Thompson
• The role of evidence in healing grief
• Danielle’s book, Medium Between Two Worlds
• Soul agreements, service and spiritual responsibility

Guest links

Website: https://www.soulconnections.nl/

Gentle note

This episode includes discussion of grief, bereavement, death, and experiences of spirit communication. Please listen in a way that feels supportive for you.

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Transcript

— Introduction

Charlie Kelly Medium 0:01

Hello and welcome to the Soul Sync podcast. I'm Psychic Medium Jason Paul, and you're in the place for the seekers, the sensitives, and the people who have always felt there's more to life than what we can see. Now, in today's conversation, I want to ask you first of all, what does it mean to really make a pact with the spirit world? Not in a dramatic Hollywood sense, not candles, thunder, and someone whispering Latin in the corner. Although, let's be honest, I've probably still quite watched that. But in the quiet, life-changing sense. The kind of pact that happens when grief has cracked you open. When someone you love has died, and the question won't leave you alone, which is where have you gone? That very question sits at the heart of this conversation with Danielle Najust. Danielle is a medium from the Netherlands whose journey into mediumship didn't begin because she wanted a title, a platform, or indeed a spiritual career. It began with loss, a sudden parting and very deep grief, and a search for answers that religion, counselling, and the ordinary explanations of life couldn't quite satisfy. In this episode, Danielle shares how that search eventually led her into mediumship, trance, healing, the Arthur Finlay College, and some truly extraordinary experiences with physical mediumship. Well, I'll tell you what really moved me in this conversation was the moment she describes receiving the answer she had been searching so hard for. An experience so powerful, so personal, and so healing that she made the decision if the spirit world could give her those answers and give her that, then she would do her very best to serve that world for the rest of her life. And I think that's what makes this conversation so truly beautiful. Because beneath the stories of seances, guides, trance, healing, and spirit communication, this is a conversation about love. Now I know myself being a medium, love does not end at death, and love continues to reach for us, and we know that because our loved ones come through. And love that when it touches us deeply enough can ask us something more. So today I'm joined by the lovely Danielle for a conversation about grief, mediumship, healing, physical phenomena, spirit guides, and the moment that changed the course of her life.

— Welcoming Danielle Nijhuis to Soul Sync

Charlie Kelly Medium 2:48

Danielle, welcome, welcome, welcome to the SoulSync.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

Thank you for inviting me, Jason.

Charlie Kelly Medium 2:56

Oh, it's lovely, lovely, lovely, lovely to have you on. So you are a medium, uh huh, and I know trance and healing are big passions of yours.

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Absolutely.

Charlie Kelly Medium 3:11

So I guess first of all, I wanted to go back in time because when you was 24, tell me about what happened at that time that could because that sounded to me like the moment everything changed for

— The sudden loss that changed Danielle’s life

Charlie Kelly Medium 3:29

you.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Yeah, if if we go back a little bit further, I was quite sensitive as a young girl, and people would say that I was a natural intuitive. But at the age of 24, somebody who I really deeply loved passed suddenly to the spirit world. And you can imagine that if you are so young, and I think for all people who lost someone, life life is is is is changing because I was wondering where is this person going and uh what is happening after death? So that was the question that brought me on a search. But that was the extremely changed in my life path in that time.

Charlie Kelly Medium 4:22

And what happened from there on in, because it sounded to me from reading the notes here that that became a search for you for the spirit world.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

Yeah, yeah, and it it wasn't exactly a search to the spirit world, it was a search where's the person? Because I was uh uh raised up as a religion person, and I was taught and learned that there was a God, and it doesn't seemed very fair at that time that if a God is existing, why you are so confronted with the fact that somebody who's so close to you passed suddenly to the spirit world without any answerings uh on it. So my search was not to be involved with the spirit world, it was to I think heal myself and to accept and understand what is it, what what will happen then? You you you you you say goodbye to a physical body, but I was just keep on questioning is this everything? Is life really stopping after uh after this passing and losing the physical existing sounded to me like religion wasn't feeling right to you, it wasn't aligning. No, I I missed things, you

— Questioning religion, heaven, hell and personal responsibility

SPEAKER_01 5:56

know. If you go to church, yeah, I was raised up as a Catholic, you have standing this priest standing in front of you reading from a book, and and even as a young child, uh I had this question why is it like this? And who is saying this, and why is it saying like that? So I always had this question marks behind things and this curiosity about okay, this is told, but is this the truth?

Charlie Kelly Medium 6:28

Yes. Well, I never went to churches a lot when I was young. I did go to some services, but I was never raised particularly religiously because my granddad was a medium, he was a spiritualist, he went to spiritualist churches. But in the occasions that I did, I would just not find any of it believable. And I would be asking questions, and I feel that when there was just something I to be honest with you, I quite kind of found the whole church environment very boring, you know. Every time I went to a service, I thought this is very long and uh painful, was my kind of view as a child. But what what sort of questions was you asking as a child? What was it that was making you sort of ask these questions?

SPEAKER_01 7:19

Yeah, just just to to bear in mind that in the Netherlands uh there was not uh as you know how it is in the UK with spiritualist churches. So I was raised up in a Catholic family, so we went to Catholic churches, and one of the questions I really deeply had was if you pass through the spirit world, you are in heaven and everything is at peace. But is that the truth? How can it be in peace then? There, if somebody is having a horrible life or is not a good person, is is their judgment? And and they're talking about heaven and hell, and and what is hell then? So I had all these questions about okay, you're going to church, you did something wrong in your life, you're going to sit with a priest, and the priest is going to make you holy again, and all your sins are okay now, and that doesn't fit with me. I thought, how is that possible? Where is the personal responsibility then?

Charlie Kelly Medium 8:32

So uh it sounds like the questions were like the same as my kind of questions, which were connected to that of the kind of sin, you know, what happens to a bad person? Okay, I have to live within the commandments. I don't really sort of understand that, okay, if heaven is heaven, what what is it that decides specifically on which one you go to? Yeah, no, don't seem to be knocking at the doors of heaven, and you know, I was probably thinking, well, if the rules of religion applied, uh, to be quite honest with you, I'd be turned away at the gates of heaven, probably to go uh, you know, for being naughty in my life and doing things, I'd probably be turned away but and you know, made to go down the stairs to wherever it is would be.

SPEAKER_01 9:18

Really funny. So yeah, I think we had the same questions then. I only wish with everything I know now that I knew about spiritualism much earlier in my life. It does make more sense for me that mediums are not something to be afraid of or not a mystic in a in a in a dark way, how people uh will see that and and that mediums are normal persons.

Charlie Kelly Medium 9:50

Indeed. So you have had this kind of um moment in your life where you, as you explained, family member yours passed away, you had greater questions then about life. Again, that was kind of very similar to my journey. It was questions about my granddad and him being in the spirit world and so on. So I can relate to that. So you sort of came across mediumship, and how was it that that kind of evolved for you? What have you learned along or along the way of your journey? Because you've you've done a lot, but we'll go into it in more detail as we go along.

SPEAKER_01 10:26

Yeah, I I did a lot. I I firstly uh I had experience after this person passed. I had experiences, so I saw things, the lights came on and off, and I hear outside like objective object objective words,

— Early spirit experiences and wondering if she was “going crazy”

SPEAKER_01 10:48

and I really thought I went crazy. I really went crazy. So uh firstly, I went to doctors to talk because I need to be normal again, and I have something is wrong in my mind.

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:04

What reception was you met with there?

SPEAKER_01 11:08

What can you repeat?

Charlie Kelly Medium 11:09

Well, what was you when you went to the doctors?

SPEAKER_01 11:11

What was their kind of uh that I was very that I was very sensitive and emotional and too sensitive for things, and I didn't accept the grief behind it. So as I uh mentioning in my book, because I wrote a book, uh, grief is something that is so difficult for everyone because there's no one way to work in grief, because uh professionals who are grief counselors have this linear way of how to go into the process, but it's such an individual process. So I found answers, but there were still questions because with all these counselors and meetings I had, this answer, where are you now? wasn't answered. So I went to a demonstration of mediumship, and I can tell you my eyes were wide and wide open, and I went out of the demonstration. I didn't receive a connection that night, but I thought, oh my gosh, if this is possible, maybe I can have a sign of this person. Maybe this beautiful butterfly will come on

— The demonstration of mediumship that opened a door

SPEAKER_01 12:39

my shoulder and tell me you're there, because I didn't have any knowledge at that time. So I I had this luck. Uh, one of my teachers in intuitive uh workshop told me to go to Jose Gorschalk in the Netherlands, and she was a former tutor on the Art of Intelli College, so it is on the other side of the Netherlands, and I live near the border of Germany. So I went there for two days, and the first day it was just a little bit of psychic, and that was very natural and really easy. Read some pictures, and I had information, and I thought, oh, well, this is easy peasy. It was flowing that day. It was flowing, but the next day it was the most interesting workshop day because that was about connecting to the spirit world. So that was a day that the person

— Discovering her own connection with the spirit world

SPEAKER_01 13:39

I lost was oh, I think it was two years after the death, I went to that day. That was the same day of his passing. And the husband of Yosei said, Okay, we're now going to do demonstrations, and then Yela, you are going to do it first. And I did not know what to do. So I was just standing there, and and and the husband of Yosei were telling all explanations of what's going to happen. And I was standing there and I said to him, Do you have a moment? So, what's going on? I I see all stars around one person, and there is a lady coming forward, and uh whole story started to come. And and the husband of your say was looking at me and saying, Okay, you already have contact with the spirit world. I said, I don't know, I don't know. So from that day and that experience, seeing somebody with my eyes, not in my mind, just without my mind, I saw it and I thought, ooh, this is interesting. So it gave me more questions in hunger.

Charlie Kelly Medium 15:00

More questions than answers in a in a lot of ways.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

More questions than answers. But so what is going on with me? What is this? So I went uh to different workshops in the Netherlands with different teachers, and then in 2012, finally I went for the first time to the Arthur Findley College, and it was a week with Paul Jacobs, and I was completely expecting that I was in the group with Paul Jacobs. And I think the spirit world knows better what to do than I do. So I end up, you know, the Arthur Findley College. You have this hall and you have this paperwork, where standing where in which group you are, and I was standing there with a friend, and he was with Paul Jacobs, and I didn't say see my name, and then suddenly there was this little paper with the name of Glenn Edwards, and there was my name. And I said to my friend, who is Glenn Edwards? I've never heard of this man.

— Arriving at Arthur Findlay College and meeting Glenn Edwards

SPEAKER_01 16:03

Okay, let's see what will happen. And I came into the sanctuary, sit there with experienced trans and physical mediums, uh, really blonde, didn't speak very well English, sitting there, and he said, So you're all interested in trans and physical medium shit? Okay, no, I'm not. I'm here to learn more about standing on a platform and understand how to communicate with the spirit world and find my answer. Where is the person who passed to the spirit world? So, and and that's the really the start. It starts with Glenn Edwards.

Charlie Kelly Medium 16:52

I I obviously myself never had the but he passed away before I even came into my journey of mediumship, but his books are amazing, and you know, I've heard so many stories over the years about him, and actually I found his books and even his uh tapes he did, yeah, the sitting in the power tapes, yeah, were they they really helped me to understand at the beginning what is it that I'm actually trying to do. So I can't imagine what it must have been like for you actually to have met him and Finn.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

I made an agreement with him because I was really scared because I did not know what trans was and I did not know what physical mediumship was.

Charlie Kelly Medium 17:35

I just got to the college for the first time, expecting just to be understanding a little bit about how messages come through on platform to be sitting there doing physical mediumship.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Even there was a physical science that week. So it was I I I fell into the butter, so to say, with everything. And and I made an agreement with him because I say out loud, I don't belong here in this group. And he looked at me and said, Oh yes, you do. I said, No, I don't. Oh yes, you do. I said, No, don't, I'm scared. I don't know what to

— Fear, trance mediumship and staying in the group

SPEAKER_01 18:12

do when I close my eyes. What what were happening? And then he said, Okay, you can try it for three days, and if you're still scared, you can go to Paul. And I never left.

Charlie Kelly Medium 18:25

That's beautiful. Because trance has been a massive, I know, part of mediumship in your life for a long time now. Because I think it said in some of the notes here that you kindly gave me that you've been in a crazy amount of seances over the years. I've not really done many, to be honest with you, because it's not really something I've had the opportunity to do. But I can just imagine the energy in that kind of thing to just be incredible.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

It is, and I know, I really know that I was lucky. But I think if I go back in time and the amount of grief I had and anger and not understanding it, and being angry on God for who God is, then maybe being angry on myself because I'm part of God, but I did not understand it at that time. That it was the spirit world who did their very, very, very best to help me forward to come over the drama, so to say. So it's it's all the God needs to go to the spirit world for what they have done for me to help me to the point where I am now.

Charlie Kelly Medium 19:51

How would you because a lot of people who are going to be listening to this podcast are gonna be thinking, well, how have the spirit world helped you?

SPEAKER_01 20:00

As I said, I have visited many sciences, and of course, with everything we do in mediumship or in involvement, we are making our own choices. So I had this pull towards trans, and I had this pool towards being part of a science, and had this pool of reading about the pioneers of the past. So if we look back into spiritualism, back in time, it was trans and physical mediumship, those home circles where, for instance, with Ursula Roberts, uh the communication, and Helen Duncan and Estelle Roberts. Um, so I was really fascinated about it. And uh, I was lucky I was in a in a physical sales at the Arta Findley College with uh Scott Milligan.

— Sitting in séances and exploring physical mediumship

SPEAKER_01 20:57

And when I came back to the Netherlands after one week at Arta Findley College, it took me four weeks to come back and land on my feet again because I thought life was really strange after one week of that stuff. So I I even doubt about my being a mom. I I thought maybe I need to have wings and being in the spirit world because I really missed it. So I searched myself for trans and physical mediums in the Netherlands, and at that time there was a physical medium from New Zealand coming four or five times a year to the Netherlands. David Thomson and Dave Thompson and Scott Milligan knew each other from the past by sitting in the in the John Austen circle. So I was so lucky that I could make the decision and I could afford it because. It's costing money, guys, to invest in your mediumship. That I took classes and that I was involved with in seances. And every time when a guide or uh from Scott or from David communicate, they always communicate to me. And then particularly my dad was very interesting in why are you sitting in this dark room with some red lights? And you're talking about persons who materialize by ectoplasm. And you have these strange stories. I'm interested. Can I come along? And at that time, my dad was 65, and he said, I want to come and join. So we we arranged it. I went to a seance with David Thompson with my dad, and my dad was an independent checker to check if everything was okay, no fraud, you know, my dad. So we could sit in the front. And of course, it was very interesting for my dad to be the checker, to see everything was safe, no fraud, everything by rules. And then one of the guides, uh Timothy, came forward, young boy, and he said out loud where everybody could hear it, I'm looking for Daniel La. And this was the particular way how the communication comes from the spirit world. They will never call me Daniela, they will call me Daniela La. I even hear it in my mind if I connect to my guides. Hello, Daniela. So this is the way they approach me. So I was waiting. There were 45 people in the room. I don't know, maybe more people's name are Daniela La. And then this person who passed away when I was 24 completely materialized, came

— The materialisation experience that changed everything

SPEAKER_01 24:18

to me to talk to me in the Dutch language. David Thomson is from Australia, doesn't speak any word of Dutch. He touched me, he kissed my forehead, and he apologized to my dad. That was the most important healing within my grief that happened. At that time, of course, I was mesmerized by what happened. And forty-five people were there, they heared it, they felt it, they felt the change in the vibration, and they heard me all cry like a baby. And at that time, after that seance, I took a decision. So if the spirit world gave me the present of answering my question, where are you? And you come back, because ectoplasm is something that comes from the physical body, and there are just a few physical mediums in the world, and the spirit world took their time to help me forward, to bring this person back to me. It was just for five minutes, but that was long enough to say, okay, I accept. And that became a pet.

Charlie Kelly Medium 26:05

Because I have kind of said a similar thing to the spirit world at one time myself, and I kind of said, Well, if I, you know, am gonna do this, then you know. I just remember one specific time years ago where I said, Look, if I get a sign from the spirit world from my granddad, I will definitely 100% commit to being a medium, and then I got the kind of biggest slap me in the face sign I could have possibly got from the spirit world. And I said, and it took, but it took me a long time to even be able to say I am a medium. I would always say, I'm unfolding my mediumship, I'm developing it. I would never actually say I am a medium,

— Making a pact with the spirit world

Charlie Kelly Medium 26:50

so it's it took me quite a big moment because you know, I had a lot of self-doubt along the way as well about can I do this? You know, it is am I able to quite my mind enough to even meditate and things like that over the years, so I can relate to you in that regard.

SPEAKER_01 27:07

Yeah, and I think when we speak to many people who are in Darren Boltman, we all have a story. We do, we all have a story, and there's always a story from the spirit world behind it.

Charlie Kelly Medium 27:24

There is, and it's interesting when you are in those types of environments as well, just how many a lot of the time common threads there are, and often we've trodden a hard old path to get to that, to that point of being in that kind of environment. The physical mediumship you mentioned as well that there's only a few, you know, in the world at the moment, and that's such a great shame. I hope it's you know something that isn't gonna sort of become extinct, as it were, because it you know, the the amazing things that can happen through the healing physical mediumship, the the sort of psychic surgery type stuff is is such a shame, isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 28:06

Yeah, but I I think that and and I I'm not sure, but it's it's just a feeling that the spirit world is adapting for what is needed in the world.

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:22

What do you think that is at the moment?

SPEAKER_01 28:24

Healing a lot of healing.

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:29

Yeah, I I feel that authenticity as well with people, it's you know, uh people need to be able to speak their truth now. I feel we've kind of gone through a stage of people speaking loads at the start of social media, using it for everything to now being quiet, and uh it's a very complex world we live in now, I feel, and I feel especially for young people indeed. Yeah, no, it's not easy. So

— Why Danielle feels the world needs healing

Charlie Kelly Medium 28:59

tell me about your book and the contents of which, because uh your guy John that seems to be a busy, busy man, doesn't he?

SPEAKER_01 29:10

Ha! He is from the sounds of it here, he yeah, he is, and he's very honest, and I I think I know him all my life. And obviously, by the time of learning within the Spiritual International Union to be certified, where I choose to become involved in healing mediumship, as it felt so deeply strongly connected to me, um, again, for what the spirit world has done to me. And going back in time with Glynn Edwards, I heard this voice. From that week on, I heard this voice, but going back in time, I heard this voice for a very long time. But you know, I'm just done yellow, I don't

— Danielle’s guide John and the story behind her book

SPEAKER_01 30:08

know. Uh I am making it up in my mind, and and and by sitting with Glenn, understanding how important it is to have a home circle and to sit, I came back, took me four weeks to adjust back into normal life, and then I started to sit in circle since then, 2012. And by time, by allowing it to happen and giving the spirit world the space, suddenly uh John introduced himself by communicating, and he gave information about his uh physical life when he was in the in the earthly world, and my circle members found information about him to validate the information, and then he kept on talking about writing a book. And I can tell you, Jason, I can talk, I can talk a little bit English, but writing things is not so easy as people think it is, because I have dyslexion.

Charlie Kelly Medium 31:24

How do you say dyslexia? Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:26

Yeah, so you can imagine that when a word is on the paper and I have these words in my mind, it's going to be totally different in a book. So I I I kept on writing the last seven, eight years, and what we have done is in every circle, in every home circle, we record all the communication with my circle members and John and others, because there are more uh in my in my spirit team in the circle, and then the last four years when we having services and we have guest mediums from the UK every time my grandfathers came, and every time there was this thing about writing a book, and every time I said, No, I'm not going to write a book. I'm not who wants to read a book from me? What's the interesting aspect of reading a book? There are so many books about mediumship. What's the difference then in my story? So I made an agreement with John and I said, Okay, if you want me to publish a book, I want you to be involved within it. So what we have done is wrote the book. I have it here. It's in Dutch on the moment. We are working on a translation in English, medium between the two worlds. And in a part of a book, there are a lot of questions my circle asked to John, and with the answers who John gave about life, about what the spirit world thinks about euthanasia.

Charlie Kelly Medium 33:17

Oh, euthanasia.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Thank you. Or why is there life and why is there death? How how does guides work? What's the purpose? How is mediumship working? And obviously, it's a very vulnerable book about my life story because this is the first time I I wrote what what happened and what made me a medium. And I have done many, many things. I also worked 10 years on television in the Netherlands as a psychic and medium. Yeah.

Charlie Kelly Medium 33:55

Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did. I did.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

Yeah, yeah. I so I have a lot of experience with the spirit world.

Charlie Kelly Medium 34:03

How did you fall into that doing that on the TV?

SPEAKER_01 34:06

Oh no, that's that's that's a side story. No, when when I came back from the Ottafindley College, you know, my husband said to me, Maybe you need to practice. I said, Maybe how do I practice then? Nobody knows me. I'm living almost uh almost in Germany, nobody knows who Daniela is. And how do I practice then as a medium? Because in the UK you go to church, you go to circle, and in the Netherlands, you you what what can you do then? So there was this uh question of a program who needed psychics and could do it by telephone, and said, okay, maybe I can do uh contact them, and I was invited to come to a place in the middle of the Netherlands and do readings to check if the the talent

— Working on Dutch television as a psychic and medium

SPEAKER_01 35:02

uh was a really potential, and it it became a potential, so I was I I could do it on a telephone, and you know, people will think things about it, but you know, in this time you have these psychic mediums who are sitting on TikTok doing their reading.

Charlie Kelly Medium 35:23

Well, I used to do the telephone lines, the uh premium rate telephone lines when I first got into it because I wanted experience, and I'll tell you what, as soon as I logged on the telephone, log on instantly calls coming through all the time. To be honest with you, I found I find I found it a bit overwhelming. I'd sort of put myself on for business and my phone wouldn't stop all anything, but I would only get the love, I was like the love doctor. I would all my calls, every single call was a love call, relationship call. That was all I specialized in. And the problem was was I'd get people calling me up, the same person calling me up again and again and again. And I sort of felt that you, you know, you don't I understand why you're calling, but they don't want to hear, they want to hear what they want to hear.

SPEAKER_01 36:10

Yes, absolutely. Yeah, and and I I I took it on the same way as an experience and to to learn about how this energy center is working with my sensitivity by only a voice. And then on one day, after I think three years, the boss of the program called me and he said, I want to invite you to come to the studios to do live readings. What? I said, Okay, now let's do it. So I traveled by train to Amsterdam, came in the studio, fool your makeup and hair. I looked amazing, Jason. I was I was young, and then after one year becoming a regular guest on the table, they asked me to be the presenter. I said, Oh, what? Okay, so I was the I I became the face of the program in the Netherlands, and I did that in total for 10 years.

Charlie Kelly Medium 37:18

Wow. And finally someone in the UK called uh years and years ago called Mystic Meg. She she used to be on the national lottery of a massive great big crystal ball and to do your fortunes. I used to like Mystic Meg. I used to, my granddad used to like Mystic Meg.

SPEAKER_01 37:34

I I never did that. Yeah, I think I showed in the Netherlands that it is possible to communicate with a loved one. I was known for that. Okay, yes, of course, people will ask things about their future, but I can't tell anything about your future because it's it's up to you, it's up to your choice. But I have here your dad, and your dad is telling me information and giving you forward this. So I became well known in the Netherlands, and uh, after 10 years it was enough because yeah, I had different plans and I did the education courses in in England and was really determined to get my CSNU in healing, and then suddenly I was asked if I was open to do a course online on teaching, and I did that, and then I thought, hmm, now I have it online, I really want to have it in the real world, so I did an upgrade, went to the UK in in COVID time. And now I'm working on hopefully doing my board this summer on DSNU and healing. So I'm still learning and learning because it's an ever lasting, ongoing process. You're never done.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:01

You're never done. I totally agree with you. I feel that you only just develop more, don't you? And you you never stop learning, especially in mediumship. Tell us a couple of the questions then that John got asked. I'm I'm curious to know a couple because as you was the book here. That's very handy. Very handy. I thought there was a couple as you were talking that sounded really interesting, actually.

SPEAKER_00 39:30

It's long answers, sometimes long answers.

SPEAKER_01 39:34

Now, what one part of the questions of my circle members were about guides. And well, I need to translate it now from Dutch to English in a fast way.

Charlie Kelly Medium 39:48

And I put you right on the spot now, haven't I? Sorry about that.

SPEAKER_01 39:51

Yeah, no problem. The question on John was, What are guides? And John's answer was when you are hearing the word guides, you think of a leader who is walking on front and somebody who is unfolding your pathway. And in a certain way, that visual you have about us is true, but we are not your leaders, we are just friends,

— What spirit guides are and how they work with us

SPEAKER_01 40:24

we are souls from love, and we decided to help you and guide you in part of your life with our wisdom to be at the surface of your journey in the physical world. Every soul that is born is not coming alone. Nobody is walking the earthly life without guidance on earth. From your first breath, there are guides, some close, some with a distance. But we are always connected, and we are not here to force you and not to say to you that you need to make choices on the road, because your free will is holy. What we will do is inspire you. Softly and gentle push you and remind you of who you really are. In the spirit world, there are many tasks. Some guides are helping you to protect, some are here to guide for healing, and some others are there for education or inspiration. We choose from our consciousness on which loving task we take. Because for us, there's always grow also growth. To work and guide with you, we are learning, we develop, and we are deepening our love together. So I choose to be conscious to work together with Daniela in a mediumship. This was not something coincidence, I think.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:07

It wasn't a coincidence.

SPEAKER_01 42:09

Yes, yeah, but it was an agreement of the soul that already exists in front of her birth. Our cooperation is based on trust, friendship, and the communion desire to bring light on the world. So this is a part of it, and it's going on in 242 pages.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:34

Flying me, you and John have been busy, haven't you?

SPEAKER_01 42:37

Yeah, it we yeah, it was seven, eight years' work, and then making it together as one was was a year, and if you look at the front of the book, you have this door, and I didn't want artwork.

Charlie Kelly Medium 42:51

I think it's beautiful artwork. I was as I was looking at the front of it, I thought it was so striking. Yeah, it is. Yeah, it's very beautiful. Red is my one of my favorite colours, it grabs my attention.

SPEAKER_01 43:01

Yeah, no, red is the colour of the power, so yeah, and and I said, I don't want angel wings, I don't want heaven stairs, I just want to be normal because mediums.

Charlie Kelly Medium 43:15

Yes, I don't want wings, I don't want halos, I don't want crystals, I don't want sage, I don't want lavender.

SPEAKER_01 43:21

No, no, be normal.

Charlie Kelly Medium 43:23

Breaking all the moulds. I like that.

SPEAKER_01 43:27

Just be normal.

Charlie Kelly Medium 43:29

Yes. Well, do you know what? I wish you the very, very best with the book. It's absolutely amazing. And if you do want to find out more about it, it sounds like an amazing read. Just go to the show notes.

SPEAKER_01 43:40

It's in Dutch on this moment, and we are hoping Oh no, I've got so upset about that, man. Yeah, we're working on it to have it translated.

Charlie Kelly Medium 43:50

Watch this space before the end of the year, before the end of the year. Well, when it does come out, because people still listen to this episode for a very long time afterwards, it will be there. So if you're listening further into the future, it's out now. So do us the wonderful favor then today of leaving us on a final thought.

SPEAKER_01 44:16

What I really want to bring forward to those who are listening, that mediumship is not a gift. We all have a story in life, and your story is personal, and it doesn't matter where you are in life, the spirit world is always walking with you. And if you have the desire to investigate your own

— Danielle’s final message: the journey back to your true self

SPEAKER_01 44:45

sensitivity or your intuitivity, or try to develop your mediumships, go for it. Even when you're doubting things, know that the journey is a wonderful journey to find your true self, and that's word of everything.

Charlie Kelly Medium 45:05

Absolutely beautiful. Thank you so much for coming on to the SoulSync.

SPEAKER_01 45:11

Yeah, thank you so much, Jason, for allowing me, for having me.

Charlie Kelly Medium 45:17

The journey of mediumship really can bring about a lot of self-doubt, and the spirit world are around us all the time. It's a frequency, it's not somewhere up above that you have to reach out to. It's about just attuning. But in this modern world we live in, there's so many distractions, our mind is so busy, and you've got to make that time to sit in the stillness. Because how the bloody hell can you feel anything from the spirit world if indeed your mind's always um going on? And there's even been times where I felt that the spirit world weren't there. Um I didn't feel anything when I'd be sitting, and it's just but it's not because they wasn't there, I know that right now, uh, but it's just I wasn't in the right place mentally, energetically, and uh mediumship really puts a spotlight on that. So until next time, lots of love. Goodbye.