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Tea & Tackles. Episode 15. 3 Average English Footy Fans giving their strong and bias opinions on current topics within the Football World with sprinkled predictions and extremely Hot Takes.

Episode Recorded on: 9/6/2026

In This Episode we talk about the The season just passed, a rant about the premier league winners and look ahead to a summer of world cup football.


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SPEAKER_02

Hello, boys and girls, it's your boy UTM back with another video and back with another episode of the T and Tackles podcast. The podcast where we talk football. We sometimes give you some bets and predictions and we talk a lot of shite in between. I'm joined by the usual, Ziggy and Jade and how we're doing, boys, alright?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, doing alright. Long time no see.

SPEAKER_02

It feels like Christmas, just once a year, that's all we need. So we'll probably see again. Uh it's not been much to talk about in the prem, to be honest.

SPEAKER_04

So nothing happened this year. It's been bland, hasn't it, mate?

SPEAKER_01

Been bland. We don't need to cover that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Suppose if you want to get it out of the way first, we're gonna focus on the World Cup, but thoughts on Arsenal? Is anyone giving them any respect winning the league?

SPEAKER_08

Thankfully, PSG came through, but oof, that was a beautiful moment, but it's it's hard, you know. As a Tottenham fan, I was telling everyone like everyone was asking me the question: what would you rather Arsenal win or Tottenham? Uh Arsenal win and Tottenham stay up, or Arsenal lose and Tottenham go down. They were like, What are you taking? I go, the only thing I was saying was they cannot win and Tottenham go down.

SPEAKER_02

That is the least that's that is like the worst scenario for you for you boys this season. The fact that for a for a minute we had we could have had that. Yeah, we could.

SPEAKER_04

It should have happened, to be honest. It should have happened with the West Ham uh VAR like ridiculous. Scraped their way through.

SPEAKER_02

Villa for me, Villa kept you up. Villa this five. It did. We'll give you three. Then we'll go on to Europe. But yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It was a tough one for me this year. Anyway. And it was uh a good moment when PSG won in the end, finally. And Gabriel.

SPEAKER_02

It felt like it came full circle, didn't it?

SPEAKER_08

It was a full circle, you know. I think I saw a status like they've conceded no penalties in the prem and had no red card. I don't know if that's right. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. All year, innit?

SPEAKER_02

All year, all yeah.

SPEAKER_08

And I and then I saw another one straight after that saying um VAR errors, and it was 11 in Arsenal's favour and zero out of their favour. So pretty rough for VAR this year.

SPEAKER_04

It's not looking good for the rigged league allegations, really. No, nothing.

SPEAKER_02

But to be fair, if anyone I never want anyone to, you know, you always feel bad someone being the one that misses the penalty. If there are anyone to miss a penalty, he'd be the one. He'd be the one for me that I'm like, if anyone can miss for Arsenal, please be him. Just because I feel like he's been won the league from his shit out. From him, you know, he's one of them that I think if you have him on your team, you love him. Because he he gets all them decisions that like and he influences referees, he flops over, he whines, uh, he likes Ben's alt rules. And then, but if you if he's not on your team, you wait him. Like when he came at Well and Road, and I was like, This this man just winds you up. I'm like, you're you're a six-foot centre back, and you're like flopping over and crying, and then holding, but time wasted. Oh, just somewhat else. So I'm I'm glad that the world came full circle and and give him that penalty miss just to bring him down a couple notches.

SPEAKER_08

When he was walking up, I thought this is the moment, this is the moment for him to miss. Come on, and I could see in his eyes he could he was gonna do it later. What's with the run-upuire for a second?

SPEAKER_02

What's with the run-ups? Like, what's happened to a standard run-up? Just especially for a centre back, just run up and hit it. Like, just put your foot through it. What what's all this like standing to one side then going to other? It's like it's getting too much, mate. Just put it just.

SPEAKER_08

I thought that I thought that I thought that one side to the other was like Uzman deadbelly because he can take it with both feet. So it's like, what side's he actually gonna take it with? But Gabriel doing it doesn't give the same effect.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, that's how it started, right? Is that there are certain players who they obviously get an advantage by doing that because the goalkeeper has to like make a decision, but they can do that because they're like quality. And you know, it started with like Bruno doing it, uh Jorginho, I think, right? Uh there was a couple others.

SPEAKER_01

They did a little skip one, didn't they?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, a little skip. Or but it's just become a thing of like, oh, this is the flair I have for my penalties, you know. And now it's just kind of got ridiculous because it's like do you remember?

SPEAKER_02

Do you remember that Zaza one for Italy where he took like 20 minutes to run up to the ball when he was taking the little steps, then put it in Ross head. But you didn't the thing for me is like your fifth penny taker's always your big boy, though, isn't it? Your fifth penny take, you think you always put in a Stevie G, or you put in like your big boys on it. I feel like one, three, and five, get one in back, three you want a big one, five, you want a big one as well. I think someone's bottled it in that Arsenal team there. The fact that there were midfielders like Zuba Mendic, Madawake, and none of them have stepped up, and you I get he's the captain, but the centre back shouldn't be number five. I don't care who you are.

SPEAKER_04

But that that's how Arsenal are as a team. They're basically for me, it's like that four that kind of like back four, like two centre backs, Raya and Rice, that kind of diamond there. That's like the solidity of their team. The attackers, their attacking options are just like rando plug-and-play pieces, like there's no one really elite in there. Yeah, yeah. I I would say Odegaard is is pretty legit. I I do rate Odegaard. And Zuba Mendi has flashes, but he didn't look consistent at all. But yeah, uh to be to be honest, I I thought that they wouldn't get through and win the league because they didn't have that like uh all-out scorer, but I guess it doesn't really matter if you're scraping one nils the whole season. So played out, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, I think I mean I don't know what you boys have a preference on player of the season. For me, it's not even there's no even debate, it's Raya. For me, it's like he is single-handedly won them. The matter of big saves he's made, I'm like, he's crucial. If they don't have Raya, their their arsenal are them two centre backs and the keeper. Like you're seeing, the goal one up, and even from a corner, how many times Gabrielle scores from a corner or Raya keeps a minute, and then they're hold out for that one nil. Like you say, they do they don't play. Maybe they do have them players. Maybe I think if you played a different style that maybe they did a couple years ago when they didn't win it, you know, we'd maybe see more numbers from Saka and maybe the other players and be like, oh, they're actually better than we they've been this season. Maybe it's the style that's detrimental to them because they go one-nil up and then just sit back and try hold it like a a Burnley.

SPEAKER_04

Um I think that's a fair take because like all their attackers are kind of like, you know, you're just playing Havertz up top, or you're just dropping people into different holes. It's not really like it doesn't feel like they've had a real specific recruitment strategy for the up front people or like the attackers basically, because I mean Yokare's felt like a bit of a panic by really just to get in a striker. He's bang average. I don't really know what that was about uh Jesus is even worse. So you just got like all these players that just don't really fit, but you could kind of make it work if you just tinker around and like swap them around a little bit. But yeah, I I kind of agree with your take. I don't know about player of the season for Riah, but yeah, fair. I I can see it.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, obviously ours is probably a bit Bruno of the Season. Yeah, obviously, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No bias, no bias bias there. Finally getting his flowers, bro. I've been blowing the Bruno trumpet for a long, long time now.

SPEAKER_08

So how many goals and assists? I know he broke the record for assists in the season, I think.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know if he break the record though, did that last one where the little Juke? They bottled it on that, didn't they?

SPEAKER_03

They said that we can't go back and not take that away.

SPEAKER_02

But uh who's so Jaden who's yours, player of the season? Do you have one or any of the James Madison?

SPEAKER_08

Oh Madison.

SPEAKER_02

You'd have thought it the way he fucking came back every game, like shaking hands. It's like, yeah, sound like you do know you're in a relegation battle, pal. What are you doing?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, it's wild. I would say maybe Kurosovsky beats him, not playing one single fucking minute. Which is terrible because I I love him as a player, and it's just such a shame. Uh to be honest, I lean to Bruno as well. Yeah, I think he he's he's the only thing that's made that Man United team tick. I think. Like he's the main contributor, and you know, they're finished finished third. They've they had a great second half of the season. I was it's quite annoying that you know, at the beginning of the season it was like Tottenham Manu, like quite far down, and then it's ended up complete opposite sides of the table.

SPEAKER_04

I mean I mean the thing about it is like United is pretty crap still, you know, like it's been papered over because we're third, but like the uh criticism that uh there's been like least amount of games ever, because we got knocked out of both the cups super early, and uh no European football. So and it was dire under Amarim at the start of the season, it was pretty poor at points, and it was just like coin toss whether a match would go well or whatever, but it you'd only get like spells of good game time. I think Parrax being good, but I don't I I I wasn't a hundred percent sure whether he should get the job or not. I I basically lean towards yes because there's not really anybody else. Uh and I don't know it it probably would have been Ariola, but that's I think he's on a bit of a bit of a risk, you know, even still. Um I mean, yeah, I think it's uh it's it's kind of a wild time, really. And so the the United squad for me is has been really poor in a lot of areas and has looked good basically off Bruno and also I think Lammons has actually been really solid, uh especially in comparison to Inana in previous seasons. So I think really it's yeah, not really, but uh the fact that the fact that we were like comfortably third is is because of Bruno. Um we would have been terrible the last ten years or since whenever he joined without him.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah. Also, no no one else has been at it though. Like when you when you look at that top of the table, I think Shearer said it, he was like the top the top six have got worse and the rest of the league's got better. Like if you look at the end of the table, like Sunderland's sneak in Europe, and like it were it were a great chance for you boys, like you say, you had no games, so you just every week you just prepare for one game. So I actually I think similar to what you're saying, is like next season's gonna be the test, you're gonna need you need to recruit for European football, and that's that's when we figure it out. I personally watched enough of Carrick in the championship to know that I don't think he's top tier. Um it's obviously different with the different club and there's boys. Like, I think you've done the job, and I think I think he's done the job this season. Like, you're saying, is he the man to go forward and get a full contract? No, but like you're saying who who at this minute in time are you going to be able to track when you're against you know when you know the Madrids have needed a manager, Liverpool need a manager, Chelsea need Madrid bringing back Mourinho says it all really about the state manage.

SPEAKER_04

It does, doesn't it? Yes.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. Um was a bit like of uh the Oli Gonasosskia time as well, like kind of steadying the ship a little bit. Uh United X ex United player. To be honest, I don't know if that's a if it's that that's an insult because he did fairly good position wise as well when he was uh the best since. I don't think there's been better since, has there.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, uh no, I I agree. I I think it's hard to really make any judgments really on Karrick right now because like uh Middle Middlesbrough is not really you it's a different comparison, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. But it's like all you've got to kind of look at, isn't it, really, with him.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, um and the the problem is also is the comparison with Abraham is like like it was so bad towards the end, and in my opinion, the reasons really were his his setup is about really focuses on the fullbacks a lot, and that's why like every game it was just like chuck like every chance would fall to Dallo, and he's just skying it Rosette every single game, and it's like and then you have a game where Patrick Dorgan looks like a world-class player, and you're like it's just because the system like functions well for the fullbacks. Um surprisingly, like I don't think Shaw's looked very good this year, uh, even though he's played like every single game, which is like ridiculous.

SPEAKER_08

Some kind of uh record for him.

SPEAKER_04

Come on, who who was the pundit the other day who was like, Oh, Shaw's not like he's struggled with injuries this year. It's like bro, he's the only he's ever played every single game.

SPEAKER_01

The only game England team as well.

SPEAKER_02

I know, yeah. We'll get on it, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think I think you boys need some you need you need some depth. That's uh going back to like the Arsenal squad, like you're saying that they might all be just decent players, but they've got depth in every position. I think United kind of need to take some tips, and especially with European football, um be interesting to see, but there's also something to be said for he's just come in, right? Amarin had a system that he's trying to implement and put everyone playing people in positions that they don't that's not really their main positions. Carrick's come in and said, Alright, you're a you're a nine, you're a ten, four, two, three, one, stand, everyone plays a position they like, so that's my thing as well, is that he hadn't done much tactically, he's just gone, you boys play your favourite positions, really, from what you can see, and because it's such a change up, it looks good because now all the players look better because they're playing in maybe the positions that a I think next season's gonna be the real I think people can get carried away being like, Oh carry, you know, he's gonna turn us around and like you need a big summer, I think, a sign in some real quality. If Bruno gets injured, you're fucked. There is no what do you do without Bruno? Yeah, basically, it play mountain what expectations then in Europe, the league, what what would you be happy with next season? A decent Europe run and top six, or like because I feel like next season's gonna there's gonna be some teams back.

SPEAKER_04

Liverpool at Arayola, and you know, you you think some team next season are probably I th I think I think it's gotta be top four, really.

SPEAKER_02

As well as a decent Europe run.

SPEAKER_04

Uh I think it's less important. Uh but I think just the league and some stability there would be important and not just like completely choking early on. I think I I think that with a focus on the league and see what happens in Europe, but I I uh we're not challenging anyone in Europe really.

SPEAKER_02

No. I guess we'll move on to Spurs, another relegation battle for next season, or going down. You know what?

SPEAKER_08

I'm looking for one Kulisevski game. That's it, that's all I want.

SPEAKER_04

One appearance, Kulisevsky FC right now.

SPEAKER_08

Nah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Um's been sweating at some point as though. Because at first it was joke, wasn't it? It didn't seem to be a good one. At first it was just joke, all right, and then it became like they're not gonna be down there.

SPEAKER_08

Then you're like, oh, get a bit close, and then it's like, oh my god, last game of the season, one goal, like barely anything in it. West Ham winning 3-0 15 minutes to go, and you know Tottenham can concede 2 in 15 minutes, so it's like, come on, this is uh getting rough. But there was never a point I thought it would actually happen. It was just a bit scary. I didn't I thought it it I don't know, maybe I I was being a bit naive, but um luckily it we it didn't go down. But next season, I don't know, I push for Europe, some kind of Europe. Push for some form. The Zerbi seems to be seems to have some sort of structure in the team coming. And I've got two free agent signings already. Uh Robertson and um Zanetti, which would be decent. Which does seem Romero's leaving. We'll see. Um I don't know, cushion for Europe, hopefully. But what's your take on that?

SPEAKER_02

I think I think you need I think you got away with uh also poor recruitment at last. Yeah. I think you them do you like signing these players that like think they're elite, or like you like you pretending to be it does that make it sounds like a big it was uh I it it it seemed like panic buys after the first few didn't go through.

SPEAKER_08

I think Morgan Gibbs White would have been like far better than what we ended up with. So it and it was like third, maybe fourth option, Javi Simmons.

SPEAKER_04

But it doesn't look like it's stopping because I saw a rumour the other day that uh you might spend 60 mil on Savinio.

SPEAKER_08

That smells like the same sort of stuff. I have seen the Savinio uh links, but I I I also heard 60 mil on Van Eckle, if that's the the guy from Brighton, which also seems a bit outrageous. So I don't know. Yeah, and I I also did see uh Mason Greenwood links, you know, with the Zerbi. So let's see what let's see what happens.

SPEAKER_02

He's going Saudi and I think I know. I well I thought as soon as he serve him back because he was crazy, he was licking his ass in Marseille.

SPEAKER_08

He was saying, oh Mason, he said he's his footballing son, so I thought it was gonna happen.

SPEAKER_03

Lock and both up now, Jesus.

SPEAKER_04

Oh dear, yeah, yeah. It was rough, it was a rough end of the season, though, because it for me it was just like every time I walk, I basically just was watching Spurs and West Ham games, and I was like, West Ham were dire, man. West Ham was shocking.

SPEAKER_02

The fact West Ham have been giving leads shit, you see it online shit all the time. I'm like, you lot with how much money you spent as well, and you die, you like it. Don't get me wrong, it'd have been nice to see Spurs go down. It'd just been funny, it'd have been balance to see you know one of them top six because then the Premier League's all out of whack you've got the six voters that you need from big teams every time you want to make a decision. Now it's five, so the majority gets uh turned over. So it could change that you going down is not only an impact on on Spurs, it's an impact on the Premier League, you know, with a lot of things that they want to implement because Spurs are a big one in helping them with changes and decisions. Um, but West Ham deserved it, they were shy. The money, the money spent. I love how some of them went missing. Everyone's like, Summer's so good, so good. I'm like, we we had it, we didn't go up. That man went missing in the playoff finals because he already knew we got to move away, and he knows he's moving from West Ham. He's he's one of them. I'm like, Spurs, I've seen Spurs links with him. I'm like, he's prime, he's a prime Spurs signing, he's all about himself.

SPEAKER_04

There's pieces at West Ham, though. That that's the thing that confuses me is there's players in that team. There's good players.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a that's Fernandez's quality, I'd take him off there.

SPEAKER_04

I still rate Suchek. I still rate Suchek. Bowen when he's playing well. I still rate Suchek now, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think anyone ever rated Suchek anywhere. Oh mate.

SPEAKER_08

He had his one uh Felini season thing.

SPEAKER_04

He was always the better better player for me.

SPEAKER_02

No, he's not yeah, he's always been a a solid, solid player, hasn't he? But yeah, they've got they've had some decent quality, but they've also spent Yeah, they've spent some serious money. They've seen they've got like four loan players, they've spent thirty plus million on four players. They're out on loan. Fulcrug, Ward Prouse. I'm like, they've spent some money to be, you know, to be that poor or not have uh kind of the last few games. I'm like, oh, you lot lost it. And they got plenty of decisions. You're talking about, you know, Arsenal getting all them decisions. West Ham got plenty of decisions, two two hand balls in in box where it fell for them. There's definitely um, you know, that if you're a London team, I think I think you see it more if you're a northern team. There's a demo with the referees, there's a lot more decisions that go for London teams than than the northern teams. In you know, might be talking in a bias opinion, but when you were talking about that table of you said Arsenal got most uh least mistakes gone against them, Leeds have got I think the most mistakes gone against them. So we've actually been fucked over most out of everyone by VAR. And you know, I've got a micro manager at season, man.

SPEAKER_04

I agree with that take because I I feel like I this is purely anecdotal, but I feel like Newcastle have had some rough decisions go against them. Uh even Sunderland. I don't know if I remember it correctly, but like yeah, I I do kind of agree with that take.

SPEAKER_08

Uh I wanna add I want to add to that take. It's London plus United. You can't leave it north and south.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so London plus Big Six. London plus Manchester.

SPEAKER_08

London plus Big Six. London plus Manchester.

SPEAKER_02

Which is basically just what two Manchester clubs. Yeah. London plus Manchester. Everyone else gets shots.

SPEAKER_01

Solford FC if we get decisions all season.

SPEAKER_02

So you what are you boy do you boys think Leeds were in a relegation battle? Last last time we did one? I can't remember you boys said you'll be be alright, or we'll probably be in a in a battle. I remember saying we need a re I remember saying we need a recruit.

SPEAKER_08

I think uh at this at that time you uh Leeds just bought Calvert Lewin and that was about it. So we didn't.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, it was based on uh it was based on uh the signings, which weren't weren't particularly great, I think. Yeah, I just talked about it. But now you leads have been solid, like pretty solid all season, I thought. Like uh I was surprised that they weren't uh a bit further up the table because you know you're you're on like palace level for pretty much most of the season.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, well, them decisions go the other way. We've had the most mistakes, then we might be in Europe instead of Sunderland, but um no. I'm I'm happy like from where we were at. That's what yeah, they might be a detriment, you know. And I think they they you've got to give them props, don't get me wrong, we're not on it a shit on everyone. They also they've got a nice, nice run at start, built up some meant momentum, you know. They could have on another season, they could have been down there. Um they had a few nice bits drop from, but I I I'm I'm all for Sunland, they've got a big, you know, 40,000 every week, they've got a big following. I said when they came up from championship, I said we'd much rather Chef United because you know they're gonna accept going like a Burnley, they're gonna sell all the best players and accept being in a relegation battle. Sunland went, fuck it, we're gonna spend 250 mil and give it a go. We might have FFP in three years, but we're gonna have a good time of it, and it's then they've got Europe, so you can't you can't knock it. They've they've gone the kind of the forest route and been like spend a lot of money, and it's it's paid off this season, so birth play. Yeah, I thought we're in the thick of it in November, leagues-wise, so I think we kind of uh fell lucky with the the Man City game and changing system, and it's just just gone well from there. I think from a neutral perspective, we've also been we play decent football, we're good to watch. You know, there's a I think there's a lot of shit football in the Premier League right now. There's a lot of games I'm like, I'll go put Kettle on or I'll be on my phone. Whereas before I used to be locked in for 90 minutes, I think um Bournemouth for me have been the best team to watch. I don't know who you boys think. I think they play great they played great football.

SPEAKER_08

Um I I I I back you there. I've I've enjoyed Bournemouth uh watching Bournemouth and Iraola's I think he's earned that move to Liverpool to be honest with you. I mean he's got him into Europe and uh he's left. I was a bit confused, but then obviously when he got the job, maybe it was in on the cards already. So I don't know. That's true.

SPEAKER_02

But do you think that will I know the same with backing slot back in slot, but like they glasner and Iraola do they were leaving months ago, weren't they? You don't you don't do that with a team who's just got in Europe after you've been there for a few years, if you don't know something better is lined up, you're not risky like that.

SPEAKER_04

So there's there must have been something it's a risky move though, because if he flops, then you're joining the Graham Potter list, you know? Like it's it's that kind of move, you know, where it's just like, oh yeah, killed it at small club, jumped up to the big two of basics, and then if you don't come out the starting blocks, and I don't really like the state of the team. It's not a robot team. Yeah, I just think it's a bit you're in you've got all the chaotic Salah situation and hasn't it well played out?

SPEAKER_08

Salah's gone, Konate's gone.

SPEAKER_04

Well that's what I mean, him going like I don't know.

SPEAKER_08

I I think they need to invest in something in a few other outside.

SPEAKER_04

It's more just it's more just the options though, of like like they you don't have Salah, and they're gonna expect that the fans are gonna expect that level of performance out of whoever is playing, you know. And I I I think it's gonna be a tough season for Liverpool. I don't I didn't really rate slot anyway, but I don't know. I I feel like it's uh it's a rough job to me, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02

I think they're gonna click. I I think I think so, yeah. I think uh maybe Isaac's gonna get firing again if he has a decent World Cup with um yeah, um I think he he's it's a big step up in it, but the his recruitment and what he's done at Balm, they lost their whole defence at the start of the season. How he's got European football, he lost it, you know, he didn't just lose one, he lost the whole defence. So it's like and that Ryan's come in in January and then got him World Cup, like the recruitment's Brighton level Semenyo's gone to Man City, they've lost big players, and he's still got Europe by playing good football. So I think it'd be interesting to see now instead of having to do all this scouting and be that feeder club, now you can check them from other players that do all that. You can be like, Alright, Brighton have found him, let's spend 60 mil on him and bring him in. So it'd be interesting to see at that level, but you also don't get the time to implement stuff. I I think I think Liverpool one, if if he's given the time, he's he's a one that can play that style. I think with Liverpool, for me, I don't know what you boys think, they're still kind of holding on, it's kind of like leads and BLC. You're holding on to a style of football from Klopp, um, and they still want that like high energy, they don't really want to play a different football, and they've still got half of them Klopp players still in that team, and you then you ask them to play a different style than what they played the last however the full Klopp era. So it's I think they need, like you're saying, get rid of these these big ones that have now crossing all that line and and really rebuild with some players that um are gonna play that season. But Iriola also plays pressing entertaining football, and I think that's why they've gone for him.

SPEAKER_08

I yeah, I I know what you I know what you're meaning by that they keep calling back to the slot uh to the clock kind of style, but I just think mainly it's because slot didn't have much of a style.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, so you're craving like what's happened here. We've seen these players do one and they're not even doing half.

SPEAKER_08

And I and I think uh I think they're gonna click as well because Ariola's style is nice. It's a nice thing to watch, a nice thing to be a part of, I think. So I I think they might click. Let's see.

SPEAKER_04

Rough for uh Samenyo though. He supposedly turned down Liverpool to go to City to work with Pep, and then Pep's done one. He's done one, and Ariola's gone to uh yeah, but there's a lot going on.

SPEAKER_02

Is Jabby Alonso at Chelsea? Interesting one. Uh Moresca apparently gone to Man City, and now Chelsea are trying to sue because Moresca left his contract and they still had him till 2030 or whatever, 2029. Interesting speaker, isn't it? I know that's what I thought there must have been a mutual uh agreement, but they're apparently Chelsea are trying to sue City now because they're saying there was something agreed going on, and then he's obviously come out and said that to then leave, but they're still under contract till 2029 or something. But I don't know how it Chelsea are probably just itching for money, they know they're in debt.

SPEAKER_08

How many managers are Chelsea paying for right now? Is what I want to know.

SPEAKER_03

They are they're that's we're talking about London bias, like their bank account.

SPEAKER_02

How do we have to sell 200 mils worth of players and then we've got to get fucking freebies to try stay up? And these lot are like billions in debt, and I guarantee they're not gonna get all flat.

SPEAKER_04

Chelsea's got six managers on loan right now, it should be an entertaining season next year, though.

SPEAKER_02

Six 12-year-old managers for the future, you're going very locking everyone up, ridiculous. Yeah, it should be an interesting season, but yeah, enough. We we give Arsenal Arsenal the due. One last part on Arsenal before we move on. My my whole gripe with Arsenal fans, you've had to deal with it for a long time, been a Spurs fan, Jaden, and now it's like the rest of the world's been like, oh, this is what you've had to deal with. Yeah, go on that. I know what you're gonna say. So um, but my gripe is with them, I'm like, accept how you won the league. Like playing shit football, you know, it's worked, and I'm I respect it by doing that. But then don't come at me, don't call up talk sport and be saying Yokarez over Prime Benzema and Saka over you know, I'm like, what are you watching? Because like you won, but except I don't that's the thing that annoys me as a as a new. I'm like, you boy, you've won it, but like appreciate how you've won it, you've shoot housed it, you've had decisions when you need to, and you've been solid defensively, you've you've worked on going one-up, and it nearly worked in Europe. And I do think foot, you know, when people say football won in that champs final, I think it's right, because to play, you know, like to win the double with that style, even though it's effective, it's not what you want to watch as a as a football fan. Um, even as an Arsenal fan, I think deep down you can say that and be like, it's great, we won it. But now next season they're probably like, can we play a bit better football at least against the worst teams? We don't need to play for corners, and I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

The thing is, it has also coincided with them kind of becoming celebrity FC and like London FC. Like they it's just like, oh, like, especially being out in the US, where it's like you meet the people who like don't like if you meet an American who watches the Premier League in the last like 10 years, they and they like like actually watch the games, they're probably a Liverpool fan. That that's what I've noticed, right? They like the style of clock play, and it's they've just become a Liverpool fan, right? And they're all like, Oh, it's my dream to go to Liverpool. Like, all right, mate, sure.

SPEAKER_03

I like, yeah, you influence, yeah, you go with the outfield game.

SPEAKER_04

I hear it's like Miami this time of year, you know? But um it's yeah, like the people who don't watch football uh but like kind of casually have it on in the background are Arsenal fans, and that's harsh to say of like all Arsenal fans. I'm not saying that at all, but it kind of has become a little bit of like it's become a bit ridiculous. Am I wrong?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I I'm gonna say to both of uh both of you what you said, well said on both dates.

SPEAKER_03

We didn't put this never Arsenal fans don't don't even listen, don't even listen. We'll be halfway through World Cup talk and be like, and another point on Arsenal.

SPEAKER_02

Right, boys, sure. We've we've covered that. We give Arsenal the respect for winning the league. We should football give Everton a congratulations for ruining football for everyone, bending over for Arsenal and Spurs. Um, but yeah, moving on, World Cup talk. England. Let's uh I know Ziggy's got a rant that he's had in the back pocket for seven months.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, let's join the before we get it's not really football related, so kind of is it's World Cup related, so alright. This is the new episode of Ziggy's Hot Takes. Strap yourselves in, lads. Um I had this segment is me proving that on T and Tackles podcasts, anyone can get that smoke, right? And another shit talking Arsenal segment, I guess, as well. So I'm coming at you, Ian, right, for your terrible take that you just dropped.

SPEAKER_03

Not right, no, I'm coming for right.

SPEAKER_04

I'm sorry, I am. He dropped a take basically about the US World Cup and said that it's embarrassing how expensive it is. And the quote I want to criticize is he said, is he basically said Qatar got dragged? Where's like the criticism for America? Well, let's be real. Qatar was using slavery to build the stadiums, okay? People are dying, all right, and you want to compare it to being a bit expensive. That is insane, insane take. I just I can't understand it, and it's just it's so bizarre because it's like, yeah, everything's expensive now. I don't know what you really want people to do. Like, if look, living in New York, if you want to book a hotel in the middle of January, in the middle of a blizzard, random Wednesday, it's probably gonna be $300 for a night. Like, New York is expensive, that's just what it is. So people complaining about like it being expensive. I'm like, welcome to the real world. People will play, people will pay thousands of dollars to fly to Brazil to see Taylor Swift, even though she's appearing locally in their same town, right? Everyone wants to go to events, everyone wants to be out in the world, no one wants to be stuck online doing you know, watching streamers or whatever. Sure, people do that, but people want real life experiences. That's just like where we are now, and a lot of the criticism for me has weirdly been around New York, especially from like English people, I guess because Boston and New York are like two of the main games, right? And it's like, well, okay, the big the big criticism has been that it's $98 return on the train to get to the stadium, right? And kind of fair enough, that's pretty insane, but you can also get a $20 shuttle, right? That's that is also an option, or you can just stay in New Jersey and you know, take an Uber to the site, and you have to walk about only 1.3 miles, which is also a little bit crazy, but you know, so some concessions there, but that's not the reason people are complaining. People are complaining because they want to stay in New York, wake up the next day, go stand in a line for six hours and get a krona or La Panna coffee gelato or whatever, and have their whole nice World Cup experience, and like, oh, it's your championship. Yeah, what welcome to like New York? Like, it's expensive here. That's the ticket prices. Like, you aren't owed a ticket to the World Cup, like so many people want to go to this game. Right now, Knicks NBA finals, right now, right? Game three yesterday. Somebody apparently offered a million dollars for a courtside seat. The cheapest seat in the arena was ten thousand dollars. It's not even a deciding game.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Right? There's it the idea that it should just be super cheap for everyone and like accessible. The reality is FIFA's selling the tickets at a discount.

SPEAKER_02

But also, like basketball is a shit atmosphere. I'm like, they have to chant D-Fent, you know, they put it on the fucking Jumbatron, so everything's like D-Fent. Well, it's well celebrities. Like, I totally get your point, especially more like New York and them areas. It's also insane prices to go watch Curachau in Mexico. Um, I think for me, it's like there's got to be a balance between like that being cashing in, and also you still want real football fans in the stadium. I've seen now more coming home watching Leeds in the Premier League. Atmospheres are dead for the big teams. There's not they're all tourists, they're all they're they're not genuine fans. Like, that's why I think you need a Leeds and a Sunderland in the Premier League because that them stadiums are filled with people that live in that town and that die for them. Clubs, they're not someone that comes in for the day and wants to film a vlog, and they don't know the chance, and they don't know, you know. So I think I I totally get your point because it's like, well, it it of course someone's gonna pay ridiculous money, so why would they sell it to the problem though? But you also need now it's a global atmosphere, yeah. You also need that because of uh you watching the World Cup on TV. We all we all grew up with the World Cup, and like it's all about the atmospheres and the fans and the um and it's like if you're pricing these people out to even fly to that country to even you know the never mind go to the games, but to even fly there and stay there, people can't even they're getting locked out to even stay.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, see I on some level I understand that, but so spoilers, I am going to a World Cup game soon. Uh I'm gonna vlog it.

SPEAKER_03

I offered a mill to go on Bosnia, Canada. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Uh it's cost me 25 grand. No. Uh but uh I'm I'm gonna go to a game soon. I'm gonna vlog it and uh drop a drop a little uh episode.

SPEAKER_01

Uh I'm going to one of them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_03

Uh I'm going to plastic.

SPEAKER_04

I'm going to Kansas City uh for a game because it's the only place I can get tickets to. And if I'm honest, the the price of like an Airbnb was not much different than I would have expected in like non-World Cup, right? Uh the shuttle, return shuttle to the stadium is $25. It's the price, the flights within the US are like not super expensive. Internationally, sure, but like all flights are pretty expensive right now because of like geopolitical conflicts. Not really gonna get into that. But like the pricing wasn't super outrageous, in my opinion. Uh the tickets I bought at face value, uh like they were like 300 bucks, which is I think like pretty reasonable for like terrible. But I understand the resale is a lot higher, but that's because there's people paying it, there's people buying it. Yeah, demand, there's a demand in there, yeah. Like there everybody wants to go, and you can complain about it all you want, but when everybody wants to go, the tickets are gonna be expensive, you know. I wouldn't pay a million dollars to see sitting at the courtside of the Knicks, but somebody is so about Wembley though.

SPEAKER_02

When you see Wembley, how many corporate you every time you watch Wembley a game at Wembley? How many corporate seats you see in the middle of that don't even come out at half time? And there's like half the fucking stadium. I'm like, that's why uh yeah, that's what it's gonna be like.

SPEAKER_07

I understand at the World Cup, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Which is don't get me wrong, I totally understand it. The people that can pay will pay, but like you'd love to see give the opportunity. That's what I think the the freebies are if you can help people like should be kids, should be like bring someone along for it for an experience, you know, like let them just experience that that once, whether it's and I'm sure they are doing that, but obviously media's always about negative, and we're always like you say, look at the probably picked out the one game, like look at the crazy price of this, like y'all saying, like it's in New York or it's in these crazy expensive places, anyway.

SPEAKER_04

I mean that for the New York games, there are um like for New York residents that you can apply for like fifty dollar tickets, I think it it is. Jane sent me the link the other day, something like that, right?

SPEAKER_08

And uh for all seven days I tried, only one worked. Because only there was like max 50,000 people that. Can put the name down a day. And the website crashed every time.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Which is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_08

Because that's how that's how many people are asking for them in New York. So it makes sense why they're so expensive. But they don't need to take the piss with the travel. Like they've just 10x the price. Just because they can. It's kind of a nice gesture. And the London Olympics were like a really great atmosphere.

SPEAKER_04

See, that is the one you can put on uh basically it's on New Jersey, right? Because New Jersey's the one who's set these prices. And supposedly, supposedly FIFA they're not cutting prices, you wouldn't Jersey.

SPEAKER_03

Then boys are like, where fucking cash you then?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Well, they ain't gonna need tourism benefit out of the World Cup, are they? No one's gonna Jersey for a day out. Um coming straight back. But uh supposedly FIFA offered to cover the transportation costs and make them all free. And uh basically the cities were like, nah. Uh we're not doing that. So yeah, uh Jersey are to blame on that, on that one. But again, you can get a $20 shuttle, so I don't know. I don't think it's that insane.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, everyone's good. I'm gonna cash it out. The shuttle drops you off what a mile away.

SPEAKER_04

Um I don't think the shuttle does. No, that's if you want an Uber.

SPEAKER_02

It's a bit of a New York is it the MetLife where the final night is it's an awkward one to get to. You kind of have to take the train. You can't unless you drive.

SPEAKER_04

But like all the all the England fans saying they're gonna walk there. They're gonna walk, bro. You would die on it. Are you walking on a mortal thing?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, you think it's I reckon you should vlog that as well. I reckon you should give it a go.

SPEAKER_03

What vlog the walk? Please walk, please walk, please walk. This is why I'll take last vlog.

SPEAKER_01

So World Cup boy.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry, sorry, Zig, were there any more to that rant, mate?

SPEAKER_04

No, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02

So Ian Wright's catching strays.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, Ian Wright's catching straight.

SPEAKER_02

We'll get him tagged.

SPEAKER_03

It's a it's another nicest men in football.

SPEAKER_02

Don't go, don't go at Trump, don't go at old infantino. He's like, nah, I'm going after Wrighty. Deserved. Um I suppose England, expectations, what we thought when we saw the squad. What were we thinking? When when you first saw that squad, the first what were your initial thoughts?

SPEAKER_08

I was surprised at the the plays he left out. But I just saw the two names, the obvious ones, Foden and uh Palmer, not in the squad. That's what I saw before I actually saw the squad. And I was like, that's brave. But that's a big call, regardless, because you know, they are both huge names, and you'll just expect them to be there. But then when I looked through the squad, I thought there's not many people I'd take out. I don't know. It's like it's like Eza Bellingham, Foden Palmer. It's quite a lot, and those two have performed the worst this season, so I don't know. You you you don't have he's he's left he's been ballsy, too cool, but I think he has a clear game strategy in mind that he wants to play, and they the plays he left out don't quite fit. But how do you guys see it?

SPEAKER_04

I agree, however, I don't think you can say that like Dan Byrne fits, but Maguire doesn't. That was the big one for me, really. I will I will say Palmer uh was a little bit surprising. I would probably have taken him. I don't think Foden wasn't a surprise for me at all because he's been absolutely terrible.

SPEAKER_08

Um I think Foden's had more goals and assists than Saka and Palmer this season, which is kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but City was challenging for the title and Chelsea were not doing it.

SPEAKER_08

Chelsea. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um I I was kind of annoyed at first, but I actually now uh I don't actually mind it really. Uh it's it's kind of a weird one because I just I'm not really sure how I expect him to actually play in the tournament because he's he's a he's a tournament guy, you know, and I think that that what you're gonna see in the tournament is gonna be very different to friendly, so I don't think I can judge anything uh really yet. And uh really I'm just glad to see the back of Southgate. That's about my summary.

SPEAKER_02

You not watch the documentary, uh the the series, no. Only we could do a fucking series about a team that never won out.

SPEAKER_01

Did you watch it? No, but apparently it's good. Apparently it's good.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, but that that team, um I'm the same when I first saw it, I was like, what is going on? And now I'm like, you know what? We've we've tried, we've tried putting up you can't fit all them players in, like you say, and you've got to keep them all happy if it's like if these are the lads that like off the pitch to all more of a team, and that that's what he's got in for them. Fair enough. There are a couple that were like, Alright, if Fortn and Palmart getting in on form, if we're going on form, the most informed man in Europe is Morgan Gibbs White over the last song, like he I felt he was a bit harsh not to get in, but like you say, maybe stylistically it's not what he wants, and the one the just the one thing for me is um for the last however years I can remember, England have always needed someone at left back. Like you say, Luke Shaw's has been injured, and then he's finally had a good season. Well no, he's finally been fit for a season and he don't get in. Me, my one gripe is that I can't understand how you don't take a natural left back of someone like my biggest pet peeve in football is having full backs that their strong foot is not their outside foot. They can't go down the line, they can't run to the byline. They're for me the two positions where a left back should be left footed, a right back should be right footed. They're the only two positions I don't matter what foot you play with, they're the two that I'm like a left back for me has to be you can't be cutting back in, or like you can't go, and that's for me. I'm like, how how we're not taking a natural left back? We've taken two right backs that play left back every now and again that arguably shouldn't have been at right back, so how they get in the game at left back, um, and in a time where I think we finally actually had a decent choice of left backs, you know, Lewis Hall for me is the one I'm like he he's how's he not got in that that squad a natural left back that's had a good season. I'm like that's what we've been crying out for for for a while. But like you say, maybe he's gone for something else, more physical or um more team coercion, or we can't uh like you say, can't can't properly judge it till we see it, but like you say, he's made some big decisions that people get slaughtered. England manages to get slaughtered, whatever he's gonna get. If we don't do have a decent start or a day, he's gonna get fucking slaughtered.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, I don't think he cares. I can't even guess. He's just gonna go back somewhere else.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know maybe but maybe that might be a tactic. Maybe he's like, if you you know, we don't know what he's gonna play. He's got a back four, every everyone plays like three positions or two, yeah. Every player that he's picked seems to play, so maybe he's gonna be like, ah, this this week, Jed Spencer at left back, then we'll put Dan Byrne out there for the so like maybe that's a tactic to be like, hang on a minute, we don't know what England are really gonna play. Um, but could be yeah, and our boy Hendo got in, and no doubts about Hendo.

SPEAKER_03

Like, I mean, last World Cup we were saying just check him as to just check him as a a staff member. We're here yet on another World Cup.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know why they can't take him as a staff member still, because he's not gonna play, is he? It's his job, isn't it?

SPEAKER_00

That's his job.

SPEAKER_04

He can't play it kind of it ruins his like image a little bit of a being a player still, though, and you go as a like you're like, Oh, I'm not good enough to go, but I'm going as a coach. Like, he's still playing the game, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, as a cheerleader, you don't want to, yeah, I'd be like, I'm good. Like, could you come on and just give the boys a little pep talk before that? I'd be like, You can do that, pal. Unless you want me there on pitch.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah. But he knows he's he knows that deep down, he knows deep down why he's there.

SPEAKER_02

He'll get that's what at most, you know. If we're seeing out of game, if we're if we're one up against um Panama, he might get five minutes to see it out. That's that's it, isn't it? Expectations. Where where do we think obviously we've we've done well, we've had some favourable runs. So doing well is you know questionable, but um knockout football, this is what I've been brought in for. What are we expecting? Are we not expecting much?

SPEAKER_08

I think quarters. You can cause you can never really tell. Like, especially with England, I don't I don't know. We've in the last how eight years, we've been actually decent. We've we've finished well. But I don't know. It's always such a shame when we get so close and never quite there. Um I don't know. I I feel like uh I'm gonna I'm gonna come out here and ZD's not gonna like it. This is the tournament for Harry Kane. He's like peaking.

SPEAKER_03

I forgot about I forgot about Harry Kane.

SPEAKER_08

So he's on for Ballendor this season, isn't he? He is on for Ballendor, and um this is his tournament, and he's worked with Tuchel before. So I think Tuchel has got something up his sleeves. Like he he wants Harry Kane to be kind of what he's doing at Bayern right now, which is difficult to defend against because he kind of drops back, quarterback plays it out, and then makes his way to the box and scores. That's what he's been doing, and then he was he's also a threat from everywhere. So hopefully, Tuchel's done quite a good job in uh disguising, maybe like what you said, and uh teams are gonna find it hard to defend against Inc. But I'll let Ziggy's gonna be a good thing.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna like pull back my hurricane take a little bit because he's not what happened, he's obviously a good player, right?

SPEAKER_08

He's such a reluctant reluctance in your voice, Ziggy.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna have to go back and clip up all the other. He's not in worst England strike we've ever had.

SPEAKER_04

The biggest issue I have for him for England is we've always played like this direct football. Oh dear.

SPEAKER_03

MS special.

SPEAKER_04

The problem is we play like direct football and then we just whip balls in. We play Brexit ball basically at under Southgate, we basically did. Um that's not how you want to use Kate, right? Like you want to play all around him, he's the focal point. And there's always been too many, like it just never fit with the wingers for me, and it just made more sense in my opinion to play a player that does fit with the other attackers. I'm perfectly happy with just building the entire team around Kane, especially right now, but you gotta do that, you gotta commit. You can't just like half-ass it and go, oh well Kane's playing, and we're gonna like play him in a style that isn't Kane's football, right? Like you we have to just go all in this this tournament for him to just like go crazy, right? If you don't want to do that, if you want to play a bit of maybe one team you do want to play a different style, you gotta make a bold decision and and play another striker. And that's never been the thing. It's been Kane is gonna be on the team sheet, and there was never Southgate was never gonna take him off, basically ever. But he wasn't gonna play the style of football around him that we really needed to, and that that was always my biggest thing is that it never perfectly fit, right? It's like I don't want to just see Harry Kane stood in the box trying to head whipped-in balls from Sterling and Rashford, right? Like I you want to see him play build-up football and be involved in the attack and playing people off and runners over him, and and it's gotta be about that team selection around him, it's gotta be really important. And so I think Tuchel has the the balls to make the decisions he needs to, and I I'm I'm pretty positive.

SPEAKER_08

I do you think he has the right team around him as well for his style?

SPEAKER_01

Madaweki on the right, not a very good thing. Pender, pivot, Dunburn left back, Jed Spence filling in.

SPEAKER_04

I think like with the Bellingham and uh see I don't I don't even really know.

SPEAKER_08

I what I think is it's very similar to Bayern right now, where you have the fast wingers who are good at taking on players and getting the ball, and you have the late run of Jude Bellingham, which is gonna really help, and then you have Harry Kane coming in the box as well. So you have a lot of like that style counter-attack, which is nice, and you can see that obviously it's worked with Bayern. Bayern's wingers are very, very good this season, at least and Diaz. So you know, I'm not saying Gordon and Rashford and Saka are almost there. They have the pace, they can take on a player. So I think he has a team that can play that style, and it looks like from the squad selection that he has picked that team.

SPEAKER_04

I I actually think Gordon of those three is probably the most compatible.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I Rashford's such a I I don't know, I have too much bias with Rashford that I don't really even know where where I stand. Um Saka again, I I don't know. I I think personally see, I I even feel like that would be would have been a reason to take Cole Palmer. I feel like these kind of players playing through the center. Uh we don't know I don't think we have the Elise in Diaz, that's what I'm trying to say. I just don't think we have have that. So I don't know how it's gonna play out. I hope I'm wrong, but I'm just I think he's gonna score anyway, he will, because he's just in phenomenal form and he's banging them in from everywhere. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it'd be interesting to see that style. Because even if you think it will go in for the uh corners set pieces, he's got a lot of big lads. You think, alright, well, Charlie you take a trend who you know whether you don't like infensive, but it puts in the best ball in arguably Europe. So if that's the game plan, then Charlie'd be in the squad. You know, that's where it's like it's hard probably to see until we do see it. Like, what exactly are we are we doing? Like you say, if you wanted to get the best out of Harry Kane like that, but have we got the wingers? But then also he's picked like Madowakey and a Rashford who were more um taller, maybe stronger wingers than than some of the others, and maybe that's again physical. I don't I don't know. I guess we'll have to I guess Rice is gonna see Rice is probably gonna be on set pieces, right? On corners, I mean yeah, I mean Saka, you know, um we got some good we got some good um having dead ball play done Anderson Tekken for Forest. Um yeah yeah midfield start I mean on on purpose you got got a good team aren't you? It's always been England been like Defence is kind of the the weaker point in it um so it'd just be interesting to see how that defence does really.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna just one thing, I'm gonna go off a little bit of a tangent. Nike's ad, Nike, if you're in the US, their ad for the World Cup is outrageous. I don't know if you boys have seen it.

SPEAKER_02

Which I've seen a c I've seen a couple, and trying to think of which one they're it's worth a watch.

SPEAKER_08

It has everyone and anyone in it, like it has celebrities and everything.

SPEAKER_02

Is that the five a side one with Tim Timothy Chalamer?

SPEAKER_08

No, that's that's the Adidas one. So the Knight. I think it's got another one with Beckham.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, is it the Rafinia one where he's like the cartel? No, sorry, it has Adidas as well, in it.

SPEAKER_08

So yeah, it has everyone in and uh Cole Palmer makes it with Central C. It's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_04

And uh so Nike were quite confident he was going, but didn't yeah, like loads of uh loads of the adverts have just been cancelled because he was in like yeah, it really I saw I ran a lot.

SPEAKER_02

I won't I think it yeah.

SPEAKER_04

The only advert I've seen is the Michelob Ultra one, and it's messy and pullis itch. Oh, get me out of it.

SPEAKER_08

Uh that's pretty poor. That is poor.

SPEAKER_06

I'm sure it has uh churro as well, or someone from Mexico.

SPEAKER_02

Ah, now we're talking. Now we're talking. How I mean, how do we think you guys got a take on how we think the the we can go into favourites and kind of teams? How do you think the horse nations are gonna do? Mexico, Canada, USA. I think I don't I'm a little worried for USA to be fair. I'm a little worried they've got a lot of it's like they're expecting to do some good things, and I don't know whether they've got it in them.

SPEAKER_08

Well, some of the their fans' support on uh socials are getting a bit ahead of themselves, to be honest with you. So it's it's quite cringy and quite funny at the same time, but I think at best they'll get to the first knockout round.

SPEAKER_02

You've got to be shit to go out group stage. No one madly goes, Oh, I mean, three go through, don't they? You've got to be par to go out group stage.

SPEAKER_04

They've got Paraguay and Australia in there, so I I low key rate a lot of the USA team, not Pubisic, but yeah, individually I think they'll do well. I actually think they might get a quarters. Um it depends on the good World Cup.

SPEAKER_08

That'll be a very good World Cup for them, to be fair.

SPEAKER_02

They get quarters. Yeah, you tech quasi, surely tech quasi.

SPEAKER_04

Canada, I've no idea.

SPEAKER_08

I don't think that's yeah, Mexico I think Mexico would do alright just for the home crowd. I think they'll do quite well. What quarters maybe as well.

SPEAKER_02

It's it's massive, in it. Like I people go back and like, oh well, you look at if you look at France, they're so stacked, and people like Spain. Um but that I think a huge thing, it's the climate. A huge thing you've got uh I think that's where we're gonna struggle with maybe other some teams. You look at like African teams are stacked. Um Brazil, Argentina, they're used to this playing in this weather. I think we've seen it previously in in previous World Cups where like the winners have been, you know, in South America from these kind of hotter places that they're just climatised. So I don't know you can go out two weeks early and and get so used to it to compare to some people that have been playing in that their whole lives, it's just normal for them. Um that's the the leveller for me. I'm like, well, with France for me, I'm like on paper, France are just ridiculous, and they've also got them PhD players that have only played 30% of games, like the fresh, the rested. Um but then it's like it's gonna be interesting to see these nations, even like us. Like you saw our boys playing 45 minutes against New Zealand, they were they were done.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, ironically, the Dallas game's probably gonna be the easiest one heat-wise, because the stadium's got AC.

SPEAKER_01

Does it really? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's an extra couple mil. Jesus.

SPEAKER_04

I mean, that that is the thing, like the it it is gonna be hot. And especially if you do get a game like in Texas or Florida, like if you get a Florida game with that humidity You know, like the heat that's the thing about you know, if you get an LA game and it's hot, sure it's it's hot, but you've got a dry heat and it's like a lot more it's a lot easier to play play in that kind of you know, environment. But if you get an East Coast game and it's a certain day and it's super hot, yeah. And it can be anywhere, right? Even if you're in like up in Canada, it's it's gonna be hot this summer. It's gonna be a stinker. So it's gonna be it's gonna be rough for a lot of teams, and there are some stacked teams from hot countries who are gonna deal with it. I mean, I think Portugal team looks stacked. Uh Spain always always gonna be a massive threat, you know.

SPEAKER_08

Ziggy, who's your favourite? Who have you got on your cards to win?

SPEAKER_04

Um that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_03

Charlie and Ziggy hot tick.

SPEAKER_04

I I think yeah, Coruso. Nah, um yeah, back on the city. I got Corous.

SPEAKER_03

Three grand a ticket.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, I I think that I I think it could be I think Portugal will make a run. I think Argentina are gonna come again. Um Brazil, just I I don't trust Brazil at all. Could be a France again. You can never can't count the French out, really.

SPEAKER_03

You're gonna pick a couple more.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

England, Germany. Yeah, it's it's tough, but there's also so many teams, and it is tough. It's tough.

SPEAKER_08

I will I will say the Portuguese team looks unreal this year. Like it does look very, very good.

SPEAKER_02

Rumours for Ronnie as well. You know, the last one rigged for Messi. You know, is it a nice little send-off for Ronnie? There's been a lot of talk, there's been a lot of talk, and like if Portugal do win it, there hasn't been a lot of talk, is it? I'd be able to won.

SPEAKER_04

I think Portugal could could win it. That that would be my that would be my go-to at the moment. Uh I think Argentino like defending it is rough. I d I don't know, it's so many options really.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's hard to judge beforehand as well, in it. Like I said, with climate, there's just different factors. There's so many teams that there's gonna be to there's so many teams there's gonna be upsets. You know, I think some Asian teams that play really good technical football that are gonna surprise a lot of people. African teams that used to climb at that big, powerful, and they've got some quality players that we see you know littered throughout all the top leagues now. So it's like there's a lot of underdogs that I think are gonna cause some problems, which is always our slip up, has been like when we're expected to win, you know, against that's when we kind of crumble a little bit. And I think there's gonna be a lot of it's the Barnaby with nearly what 50 teams in there or whatever it is, it's just it's I think that uh France Senegal group stage game, that's gonna be a banger.

SPEAKER_04

That's gonna be a banger.

SPEAKER_08

I have uh in my in my dark horse list I have Morocco and Senegal and Japan. I think I don't know why those three I mean the and Japan, the Afcon final teams, those both of them.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Morocco had a good last tourney as well, didn't they?

SPEAKER_08

They did, yeah. They did. And Japan, I don't know why. I just have a good feeling about them. They they've got decent players.

SPEAKER_02

Yep. Just got a feeling I I actually said Japan before uh talking about on stream, before even England played him. I said, you know, I think Japan kind of want to look out for, and then we played him and lost 1-0. Um, get your money on Japan, get your money on Japan. Um, yeah, I think it it's uh there's a lot of Asian countries now that I'm seeing like technically wise the play good football, they're entertained to watch, and they've got it's like every all these nations they've at least got one or two players in the big leagues, or whereas we didn't really see that before. You maybe have one, um but it's like all of them now have a couple of or a couple of sleepers that are in you know, maybe the French league or Italian league that we don't know about so much, but they're in them teams. Um yeah, the interesting it should be a good World Cup at least, hopefully.

SPEAKER_04

Well Belgium if they can handle it. What about Belgium? Are we gonna see that's such a great squad?

SPEAKER_02

They've had a great squad for 20 years, man. They've all played together since we were 14 has had De Bruyne, and then they did they've done fuck all when it might. Um at some point are you adding Belgium to the eight teams?

SPEAKER_04

It's gotta turn around at some point, surely. Like the the squad is ridiculous, you know.

SPEAKER_01

Robbie Williams, left wing.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, we've got pick we've got to pick one sleeper each that we think are gonna uh one sleeper each. One sleeper each.

SPEAKER_08

I'm gonna go Morocco for mine.

SPEAKER_04

I was thinking a bit more like real sleepers, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Real sleeper, like should be going out in the groups, but we need to pull pull it up. Let me have a look. There's two, there's 50 teams, we can't be uh real sleepers, so so ones let's say ones that might that shouldn't get out the group but might. I'd love I'd love to see like a South Africa that 2010 story. I love it's the same open at Mexico, South Africa that we had in 2010. You remember when Chabalala scored top bins? Yeah, yeah. Very iconic, right?

SPEAKER_04

Um the the per the team I was gonna pick, you kind of ruin it because they're not they are gonna get out of the group, but uh sorry. It's just because they have a weak group, but I was gonna pick Colombia.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, are they a sleeper though?

SPEAKER_02

To be honest with you, I know he just said he said Morocco, mate. You said Morocco, and he said nah nah nah, you've got to go sleeper, gotta go sleep.

SPEAKER_04

Rocco was better than Columbia, man. Come on, what? Yeah, yeah. Sleeper England. Come on, man.

SPEAKER_03

Um proper sleep.

SPEAKER_04

Alright, and a team who's not get who about the Scotland to get out of the group.

SPEAKER_08

I was gonna say Scotland, but they've got a difficult group. They've got Morocco and Brazil. I will say Ecuador for me. They've got a decent team, they've got big players.

SPEAKER_02

It's toughen it because you've got these teams that are like I'd like to see an African team because I feel like one always does. You know, we always get one that's exciting and goes quite far, but if you're picking a Senegal or Ghana, it's not really. Is it fitting into the sleeper category? I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that makes it hard when you're at fake a team who probably shouldn't get out of the group. I'm I'm telling most of the groups get out. Yeah, I'm I'm thinking the easiest choice is probably to pick one of the teams in group F. Because it's Netherlands, Japan, Sweden. So I don't know who you're saying who definitely Tunisia.

SPEAKER_02

Tunisia. Uh yeah, that's like group of death for Tunisia, innit? But it's a tough group out.

SPEAKER_04

Um I I think Japan would probably be the one that you say would come third.

SPEAKER_02

I think they'll do well. I think they'll finish top two.

SPEAKER_04

Maybe Japan.

SPEAKER_02

I generally think they'll I mean, maybe that Japan to finish top of that group. No, you look at mate, Netherlands. Netherlands is bang average. Who's the attack? They've got Cliver, Gakpo, Depaye, Veghorst. Like it's they've got so you look at the defence, Van de Vend, Van Dijk, they've got a good defence if they're playing five at the back, but I thought I don't know that attack for me for Netherlands. Just done let me pull up the Netherlands attack.

SPEAKER_08

They had Javi Simmons, but he's injured. He scored against England, didn't he?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, what is it? Ryinders, Graven Birch, DeYong in midfield in their last game. So forwards.

SPEAKER_02

We've got Brobby, who's had a good season in Sundland, eight handful. Somerville, Depaye, Gakpo, Cliver, Noah Lang, Veghorst, and Daniel Marlon. Um, Marlon, have you seen Marlon by the way? Second top scorer in Serie A. He only joined in January. He's like the most he's been ridiculous. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08

That shows how bad that league is, I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_02

He's got like 15 goals in what four five months.

SPEAKER_04

See, I I think that squad's decent. Like that back four that they played yesterday Gum Freeze, Van Heck, Van Dyke, Van De Vent.

SPEAKER_08

That's kind of scary. Yeah, they're huge. All of them.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna bat the boys. I'm gonna say Japan top back group on the back of the boys.

SPEAKER_08

Right, Ecuador for me. I think they'll get through the group.

SPEAKER_02

Ecuador, do you think they've got Germany, Kirachow Ivory Course? Are they topping that group? Second.

SPEAKER_08

I don't know. I think Germany will go through first. Yeah, the team's decent.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna go with check here.

SPEAKER_03

You can always rely on Zig. Because I love this thumbnail right there, mate.

SPEAKER_02

Ian Wright catching strays, check to win it all.

SPEAKER_03

We're sorry. Clickbait.

SPEAKER_04

Not to win it all. Alright, alright. Send these. No, no, I'm joking. Um, because in the group A, you'd you'd say Mexico-South Korea would be top two. I think check, I think Checkier could uh.

SPEAKER_02

I'd love to see South Africa do well. I'd love to see South Africa just for the vibes. I think that 2010. What were your favourite World Cup boys? You have a favourite 2010 for me were my most memorable.

SPEAKER_08

It's got to be for me, it's most memorable as well. 2010.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It's the wave. What do we think of World Cup songs?

SPEAKER_08

Which one?

SPEAKER_02

The speed, oh the speed one I've heard uh I had a clip of it other day, and people were saying it's it's more like a World Cup song than than others. It is the other one Jelly Roll?

SPEAKER_04

Which one are Jelly Roll? Yeah. That's so strange. They could have got like someone. Why haven't they got like a bunch of like American singers to make a proper song? Surely. How many singers are there in the US, Canada, and could have one each, you know, get a Justin Bieber Drake for Canada, you know?

SPEAKER_08

But I think for them it's like Eurovision.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08

It's like you don't look cool doing that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, lighter by jelly roll. And then I think did she care to come in with one in time? Shakira's got one.

SPEAKER_04

Shakira's just gonna do one every World Cup now.

SPEAKER_01

She's just like, yeah, she's like Mariah Carey at Christmas, man. You're gonna be like, Jesus Christ.

SPEAKER_04

My penalties don't lie.

SPEAKER_02

Oh so what we said, England, where where England getting to? I'm saying quarters. What are you boys saying? Are we having faith? Is it coming home?

SPEAKER_08

I'm not gonna say it, so I'm gonna say quarters as well.

SPEAKER_02

Quarters as well. Come on, see what's gonna backers, mate. Things like not getting out of group stage.

SPEAKER_04

I think we get knocked out in the round of 32.

SPEAKER_02

Fuck it out.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think it's gonna be Did you see the line up?

SPEAKER_02

If everyone wins, which it never it never happens how it does, but if everyone wins how they should do, it's like is it like us Brazil in the quarters, and it's like Argentina, Portugal for like Messi Ronaldo, France, Neverlands, there could be some there could be some tasty games. Messi Ronaldo be such a nice send-off. Them two in in a knockout round.

SPEAKER_04

That would that would be a banger.

SPEAKER_02

Ronaldo putting him in row z Messi and all.

SPEAKER_04

There you go. Messi $10,000 ticket right there. Messi Ronaldo.

SPEAKER_03

That's why you got the seat right at the back, mate. Just for either Ronnie or Gabrielle.

SPEAKER_04

It's me and Timothy Chalamet will be front row.

SPEAKER_03

Millie tickets. Timothy and Timothy Chalamet vlog on the freeway, walking to the stadium.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Right, boys. I think that's pretty much wrapped up. We've had a good sesh. I don't know when we'll be back, maybe next World Cup 2030. We might try to get some more in if we're uh if we're available. You get some more in. Yeah, but if everyone has enjoyed it, give us a like, give us a comment. Any support is appreciated. Do check out the socials as well. I'll try to clip some bits up, get some stuff on there. If you like daily streams of uh you do like cards and stickers, go give me a follow on whatnot. Um, I do daily streams over on there. Um, yeah, appreciate everyone for listening. Appreciate you boys as always for joining. And uh, we'll see you next time.